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I love my i70 system. Worked great right out of the box. This is coming from a former BG advocate too… The BG system I had was old, but robust. It was probably 25 years old and well overdue for retirement. Now with digital interfaces I can network more data and get better info to make decisions. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:49 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard N. Bush Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? I'll second Fred's comments about the i70; it has worked well for us...Fred was very helpful, ( and patient with all of my questions) in getting the system up and running... Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Persistence came with BG H1000 instruments. Wind, Speed and depth. They were functioning. However. The displays were losing what I call raster lines and were dim and difficult to read at night unless looking straight on. I wished to purchase newer displays. With BG the newer models are not compatible with the older ones. This seems to be a common thread with BG and on top of that they are expensive. We use Raymarine on the boat we typically race (a CC 115). They work very well with the only issue being the wiring clips on the backs of the instruments which need replacing frequently. The same Raymarine instruments are on our friends CC 99 on which we frequently sail. Again they worked flawlessly. On our previous boat the J27 Nut Case we also had Raymarine (actually one of the instruments was Raytheon). ST60 on all of the boats. Previous to that we had ST40 on our Niagara 26 – both the bidata and the wind. In all cases the instruments were robust, easy to read and easy to use. The instruments that I refer to are the Speed, Depth and wind.On Persistence we have also the Raymarine ST6002 autopilot. All work very well and there is a nice level of crossover support between the Raymarine products of different years. Not so much with BG We decided to replace the BG Speed depth and wind with Raymarine i50 i60. Again they are easy to use and easy to read. I liked the robust look and feel of the ST60 series better particularly how they screw on to bulkhead or instrument cluster. This is IMO a major FAIL on the newer Raymarine but that is the only one. The BG that these replaced is now on a CC 33-2. Literally on a shelf in a box I believe. I am sure that Greg reads this list so he may chime in at some point These are only my opinions. Raymarine to me is great. BG more expensive and less compatible across model lines and model years Mike Persistence Halifax From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:12 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? I've installed BG on a couple boats and they seem to work fine. I have Nexus (NX2) instruments on Touche' and love them. I like the easily customized multidisplays. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I've installed BG on a couple boats and they seem to work fine. I have Nexus (NX2) instruments on Touche' and love them. I like the easily customized multidisplays. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA -- Forwarded message -- From: Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com To: Robert Hrabinsky rph2m...@yahoo.com, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 19:33:46 -0300 Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? No, you would also have to purchase a Raymarine iTC-5 Instrument Transducer Converter and a few more cables to make up a small SeaTalk ng network as there are no connections on the i70 for the transducers. http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=3338 ...or you could keep the i50 tridata instrument mounted and hooked up somewhere on the boat and connect an i70 to it using a single SeaTalk ng cable. Ken H. On 26 March 2015 at 18:09, Robert Hrabinsky via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and play basis? Robert H. 1989 CC 30 MKII Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-26-2015 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Chuck Borge' chuckbo...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck, Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation. I looked at i50/60’s but ended up with four i70’s. Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit. Depending upon what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time. I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $. Regards, *Ron* Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com *From:* Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM *To:* Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It’s a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go
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This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA -- Forwarded message -- From: Ken Heaton kenhea...@gmail.com To: Robert Hrabinsky rph2m...@yahoo.com, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 19:33:46 -0300 Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? No, you would also have to purchase a Raymarine iTC-5 Instrument Transducer Converter and a few more cables to make up a small SeaTalk ng network as there are no connections on the i70 for the transducers. http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=3338 ...or you could keep the i50 tridata instrument mounted and hooked up somewhere on the boat and connect an i70 to it using a single SeaTalk ng cable. Ken H. On 26 March 2015 at 18:09, Robert Hrabinsky via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and play basis? Robert H. 1989 CC 30 MKII Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-26-2015 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Chuck Borge' chuckbo...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck, Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation. I looked at i50/60’s but ended up with four i70’s. Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit. Depending upon what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time. I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $. Regards, *Ron* Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com *From:* Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM *To:* Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It’s a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc
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Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 29, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'll second Fred's comments about the i70; it has worked well for us...Fred was very helpful, ( and patient with all of my questions) in getting the system up and running... Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net Sent: Fri, May 29, 2015 1:34 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Thanks, Richard! And for those who don’t know it, Lloyd Lippe from the list (and another lister for whom I’ve done design work and sold equipment) is getting ready to take his Landfall 39 out to bluewater next week, with all his new Raymarine toys aboard. He’s probably too busy getting prepped to go to respond; but Lloyd: Fair Winds, and Following Seas. Send us an email when you get to Key West. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 29, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'll second Fred's comments about the i70; it has worked well for us...Fred was very helpful, ( and patient with all of my questions) in getting the system up and running... Richard 1985 CC 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4 Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Thanks Fred, that's helpful. Things are slowly becoming clearer to me. (and I'm leaning a bit back towards Raymarine) I called Ray tech support back today and they said they have a new guy ramping up so that might be who I talked to yesterday. Mark (tech guy today) said i70 will work fine standalone with nmea transducers (smart in Raymarine lingo). The other concern I had was the i70 install manual shows transducer pods in the systems diagram, and some Raymarine documentation seemed to say they're required. And I'd hate to have more connections than necessary, plus extra parts that can potentially break. He said that's old, they're deprecated and have been replaced by the iTC-5 (which you only need if you have analog transducers). On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:47 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederick G Street f...@postaudio.net To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 12:33:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Patrick, I have the ST70 control head (seatalk) for my autopilot, predecessor to the I70, recently added a triducer for speed, depth, temp. No additional boxes needed. Just plugged into the backbone. Away we went. I also have my Standard Horizon chartplotter plugged into the NMEA 0187 connection on the X10 autopilot control box. Works great. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Date: Fri, May 29, 2015 10:34To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Frederick G Street;Subject:Re: Stus-List New instruments?Hi, Patrick. I’ll admit my bias up front; I design and install marine electrical and electronics systems, and have been a Raymarine-certified installer. Okay, that’s out of the way. Raymarine in the past did have a bit of an issue with network versions; but now that they’ve settled on SeaTalkNG for most medium-speed data (SeaTalkNG is basically an NMEA2000 network with one additional wire to support the older SeaTalk1 data), that’s not much of an issue any more. I’ve sold a bunch of i70 systems in the last year or two, including several to people on this list. Ask them what they think of the i70. The feedback I’ve received so far is universally positive. The i70 will repeat/display just about any NMEA2000 data available on the network. That data can come from “dumb” analog transducers by running them through an inexpensive ITC-5 instrument converter. Often the old speed/depth transducers you currently have in your boat can work this way; and even wind, if you have an older Raymarine wind transducer. You can also go the route of “smart” transducers; the DST800 depth/speed/temp triducer works great this way, and only requires one hole for the transducer. Currently, Raymarine wind transducers do require a converter like the ITC-5 to be used on a SeaTalkNG/NMEA2000 network. You could go with another manufacturer’s “smart” wind transducer, but then you lose the ability to calibrate the transducer. I’m surprised at the answers you got from Ray’s tech support people; they’re usually much better than that. BG makes nice stuff; but you’re probably going to pay a bit more, as the distribution network for sales of BG is much smaller than other manufacturers; and that also makes it harder to get support. BG is part of Simrad, and tends to gear their equipment towards the racing market (where they can command a premium price). You could spend less and get Simrad, with many of the same features. Or go with Raymarine. I can source Raymarine, Furuno, Simrad and other gear for people on the CC list at dealer prices; let me know off-list if you’d like to talk further about this. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On May 29, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -PatrickCC 38 LF Violet HourSeattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Does it have the fancy microphone? (reference to Blues Brothers movie) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:38 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard; jda...@gmail.com Subject: Stus-List New instruments? I have 2 BG Tritons on either side of the companion way and a Zeus 2 at the helm. They rock! I have had them for 2 seasons now, No issues. The Triton are easily customizable, have cool stuff like wind shift / depth graphs over time, nice wind rose, etc, etc. The Zeus 2 is da bomb. it will control everything from radar to audio, has all the metrics like VMG on mark / VMG on Wind, sailing time to mark, a really cool 'Sailsteer' wind rose / the ability to dynamically show the laylines on the chart based on wind direction-speed / current / boat direction-speed /tide.. Etc, etc. Also the touchscreen is very responsive, even works with gloves. With the wifi module and a wifi connection the Zeus 2 can even update itself straight of the internet and get / update your maps as well. You can get XM music / dynamic weather for US and the Caribbean too. All is NMEA 2000 standard, no proprietary Raymarine Seatalk this or that to worry about. Any NMEA 2000 compliant sensor / stereo / gauge will work just fine. So Jake, is it the new Blues Mobile or what? -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, GA Stus-List New instruments? This thread is a couple months old, but I'm looking into new instruments now too. Mainly a new speed display + transducer. Eventually adding a wind instrument and maybe replacing the depth (old but still working). Anyone have experience with BG? I was considering a Raymarine i70 but now am looking at the BG Triton T41. For my needs I prefer one multi-function screen that can connect to speed, depth and wind. I'm leaning away from Raymarine now because their incompatible network versions and mismash of products seems terribly confusing. I called Raymarine tech support yesterday and even the support guy had his facts all wrong. He told me an i70 is a repeater only, and requires separate i50 display instruments for each sensor you want to network in. But based on other people I talked to and info on the web, it looks like that is incorrect and an i70 could be networked directly with a modern digital transducer (what Raymarine calls smart transducers). He also told me a triducer is a bundled package of two separate thruhulls. So, BG yay or nay? -Patrick CC 38 LF Violet Hour Seattle, WA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Chuck, I have the wireless wind with the 12 volt display. Good news is no wiring. Still requires a trip up the mast. Remember, the transducer may not fit in the current thru hull sleeve. If you want to integrate the instruments into a chartplotter you need to buy the T122 interface and connect using NMEA 183 - not 2000. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Listers, I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the exception of Wind Speed. The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem to haul me up the mast. Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old technology. So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend, should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle? How tough is the install? And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning) Thanks for any advice, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Chuck, Ditto on Fred's i70 recommendation. I looked at i50/60's but ended up with four i70's. Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit. Depending upon what I'm doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time. I'm glad that I invested the slight extra $. Regards, Ron Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com ron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM To: Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck - I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It's a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I've provided gear, including the i70 System - ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I am replacing my kvh in May at Torresen Marine in Muskegon Michigan and will be listing on eBay after. My top unit is sending properly, it's my analog wind read that has failed. Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, March 26, 2015 Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Listers, I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the exception of Wind Speed. The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem to haul me up the mast. Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old technology. So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend, should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle? How tough is the install? And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning) Thanks for any advice, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Might be worth a quick trip up the mast. Can you find someone else to help? Might be as simple as a spider building a web/nest in the cups. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Listers, I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the exception of Wind Speed. The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem to haul me up the mast. Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old technology. So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend, should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle? How tough is the install? And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning) Thanks for any advice, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Fred, Thanks for both the input and the offer. I get what you are saying, regarding function. And I'll give that some thought. I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look. Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays are ok. And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against it, like she always does now. I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to splash. Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Bill, What are you sapping out to? And what are you hoping to get for the masthead unit? Maybe I'll delay another season... Best, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It’s a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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No problem. I got the wired display because of the bimini. Joel On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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They've been stuck for 2 season. It didn't bother me so much at first, we never had much electronics on the J24, J30 and Etchells I was racing in the past. But I decided this is the year to get it right. I'll be able to find help, but wanted to minimize the number of times I have to ask friends to lug my butt up there. Plus, I can't help lust after some new stuff. *508-642-3557* On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com wrote: Might be worth a quick trip up the mast. Can you find someone else to help? Might be as simple as a spider building a web/nest in the cups. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Listers, I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the exception of Wind Speed. The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem to haul me up the mast. Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old technology. So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend, should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle? How tough is the install? And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning) Thanks for any advice, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Fred, I'm looking forward to the new instruments. My BG stuff from the 80's is well overdue for replacement. I will be splashing in mid April. Hope you can expedite getting them here. J Trying to decide how many other displays I will need and where to put them. I like a dedicated depth display, especially in the thin water around here. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM To: Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck - I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It's a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I've provided gear, including the i70 System - ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Speaking of instruments - - I have an old Nexus (NX1?) system. It works. But...some damn (large) bird decided to perch on my wind instrument on the top of the mast. He/she broke off the vane of the wind direction part. I found it on the deck, but am unsure about trying to reattach it - glue? a light weight stiffener? I dunno. Does anyone have such an old relic sitting around in their boat bin? I would rather replace the vane than try to repair it. Thanks for looking. Gary Nylander St. Michaels MD - Original Message - From: Eric Baumes via CnC-List To: Chuck Borge ; cnc-list Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:04 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck, I feel a little like a vulture. I am still trying to keep my KVH system alive, so if you are replacing stuff, let me know. I am particularly interested in buying any working dual displays. Eric 34/36 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Fred, Thanks for both the input and the offer. I get what you are saying, regarding function. And I'll give that some thought. I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look. Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays are ok. And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against it, like she always does now. I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to splash. Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and play basis?Robert H.1989 CC 30 MKIISent from my Samsung device Original message From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-26-2015 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Chuck Borge' chuckbo...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck,Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation. I looked at i50/60’s but ended up with four i70’s. Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit. Depending upon what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time. I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $.Regards,RonRonald V. RicciS/V PatriotCC 37+Bristol, RIron.ri...@1968.usna.com From: Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PMTo: Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List New instruments?Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this):Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It’s a very nice, customizable system.Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience.Fred Street -- MinneapolisS/VOceanis(1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI:^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:Hi Edd, Joel,Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up.Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better.So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?Thanks,Chuck BCC 34 ElusiveSomerset, MA___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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No, you would also have to purchase a Raymarine iTC-5 Instrument Transducer Converter and a few more cables to make up a small SeaTalk ng network as there are no connections on the i70 for the transducers. http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=3338 ...or you could keep the i50 tridata instrument mounted and hooked up somewhere on the boat and connect an i70 to it using a single SeaTalk ng cable. Ken H. On 26 March 2015 at 18:09, Robert Hrabinsky via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Stupid question: I just installed an i50 tridata instrument on my bulkhead last season. If I wanted to do so, could I swap in an i70 on a plug and play basis? Robert H. 1989 CC 30 MKII Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 03-26-2015 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Chuck Borge' chuckbo...@gmail.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck, Ditto on Fred’s i70 recommendation. I looked at i50/60’s but ended up with four i70’s. Two are on each side of the companionway so they are easily visible from the helm and anywhere in the cockpit. Depending upon what I’m doing, they are set to display whatever I data needed at the time. I’m glad that I invested the slight extra $. Regards, *Ron* Ronald V. Ricci S/V Patriot CC 37+ Bristol, RI ron.ri...@1968.usna.com *From:* Frederick G Street [mailto:f...@postaudio.net] *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:07 PM *To:* Chuck Borge; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New instruments? Chuck — I recently had this discussion off-list with Jake Broderson; my take was that the i50/i60 displays will only ever do one thing. The wind display will only ever display wind. For not much more, you could get into the i70 system; it only comes with one display to start, but that display can show any data on the bus. So you can set it up in tri-data mode and display wind, speed and depth on the one display (like this): Want to add another display? Change the data shown on the first display, and add other data on the new one. It’s a very nice, customizable system. Raymarine has a rebate on until the end of April; you can get $50 back on any instrument purchase. If you want special CC lister pricing, contact me off-list. And there are others on the list for whom I’ve provided gear, including the i70 System — ask around for their experience. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Edd, Joel, Thanks for the info. It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle (wired). I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the solar up. Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog reading on the i60 better. So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please? Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Hi Eric, No worries on the stalking parts, I'm kinda doing the same. But I think I really want to change some stuff. I have 2 displays and the keypad plus the brain. I'll let you know if I pull the trigger on a new system. Best, Chuck Sent from my iPad On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Eric Baumes eric.bau...@gmail.com wrote: Chuck, I feel a little like a vulture. I am still trying to keep my KVH system alive, so if you are replacing stuff, let me know. I am particularly interested in buying any working dual displays. Eric 34/36 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Fred, Thanks for both the input and the offer. I get what you are saying, regarding function. And I'll give that some thought. I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look. Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays are ok. And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against it, like she always does now. I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to splash. Thanks, Chuck B CC 34 Elusive Somerset, MA ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
