Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?
Wally, that's exactly my point! Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: October 7, 2014 12:34 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? re Liability. I seem to remember that the Westsail 32 that was abandoned during 'The Perfect Storm' was actually doing fine by the captain, and it was the pickup crew who went hysterical and called the USCG for rescue. The captain set the boat up and tucked himself into the quarterberth and was ready to ride it out. (One account says he took a bottle with him into the quarterberth, and I would probably do the same thing under the circumstances.) My point being that he was taken off the boat because he was a licensed captain, and disregarding a direct order from the USCG would cost him his license. He didn't want to go. It turns out he was right, and the boat ended up on the New Jersey shore in very good condition. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Yanni, Welcome to the list. Where do you sail? David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 18:54:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Hello Sailors,I am new to the list and like to greet all of you. I have been a member of other lists like CYOA and Liveaboard for many years. Some information will let you know that I have a sailor wannabe sing I was born on my father’s custom build wooden sailboat while circumnavigating. Since then somehow saltwater sipped into my veins and can’t get rid of it. Long story short, due to unfortunate situations and steps forward I had to sell my Columbia 8.7 a year and a half ago Christmas.I set my eyes on an CC Invader 36 that needs a lot of work and it is basically gutted with an old 3 cylinder Volvo with a hugemangus flywheel in the front. Any way nice to meet you all Captains and Admirals. I just want to add to this conversation, if anyone of you is familiar with manufacturing floor. Liability in Licencing is like yellow lines on a plant floor. If they are laid out you have to abide by them, So, if you have a licence you are lyable because you have training and someone else said you should know better. Yanni92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible07 Yamaha Straotoliner SSCRC 011059SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: October 4, 2014 10:15 PM To: CC List; Dennis C.; CC List; Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I think Bob was trying to understand what the liability implications of having more qualifications were. On Oct 4, 2014 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:Bob, Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance providers offer discount for such course. I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US Navy. Dennis C.Touché 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob MOx 33-1Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I’ve been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you’re not “on the clock” and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you’re at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren’t there if you’re not CG-licensed. So I’ve held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc
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I won’t comment on extra liability/scrutiny (I don’t have enough information to talk intelligently on that subject), but I fully support the idea of getting the training. You might be quite surprised at how much you did not know (before the training). Marek s/v “Legato” in Ottawa From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 11:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? Again, I don’t have my ticket; but talking with some people who do, if you get into any kind of accident, it seems there is a different (higher) level of scrutiny and possible liability if you have a CG license, even if you’re just out sailing your own vessel for recreation. Like Bob said, “he/she should have known better”. And it sounds like it’s not unheard of for a license to get pulled, based on the severity of the incident, regardless of whose fault it really was. So if you’re not going to actively use it to work for pay, I question the usefulness of getting one, aside from the detailed training and knowledge you acquire in the process. Just my take. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . bobmo...@gmail.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I’ve been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you’re not “on the clock” and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you’re at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren’t there if you’re not CG-licensed. So I’ve held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?
I sailed the Great Lakes but I anchored my boat in Mayo MD for few years in the winter months . I just love The Chesapeake. I am in Ontario at the present close to Niagara Falls, in a small town called Grimsby. Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: David [mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com] Sent: October 6, 2014 7:53 AM To: Letsgo Sailing; CNC CNC Subject: RE: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? Yanni, Welcome to the list. Where do you sail? David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) _ To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 18:54:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Hello Sailors, I am new to the list and like to greet all of you. I have been a member of other lists like CYOA and Liveaboard for many years. Some information will let you know that I have a sailor wannabe sing I was born on my fathers custom build wooden sailboat while circumnavigating. Since then somehow saltwater sipped into my veins and cant get rid of it. Long story short, due to unfortunate situations and steps forward I had to sell my Columbia 8.7 a year and a half ago Christmas. I set my eyes on an CC Invader 36 that needs a lot of work and it is basically gutted with an old 3 cylinder Volvo with a hugemangus flywheel in the front. Any way nice to meet you all Captains and Admirals. I just want to add to this conversation, if anyone of you is familiar with manufacturing floor. Liability in Licencing is like yellow lines on a plant floor. If they are laid out you have to abide by them, So, if you have a licence you are lyable because you have training and someone else said you should know better. Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: October 4, 2014 10:15 PM To: CC List; Dennis C.; CC List; Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I think Bob was trying to understand what the liability implications of having more qualifications were. On Oct 4, 2014 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Bob, Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance providers offer discount for such course. I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US Navy. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html Ive been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if youre not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not youre at fault, there are some legal ramifications that arent there if youre not CG-licensed. So Ive held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there arent worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email
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You are absolutely right and you are not the exception. The licence is not a requirement for someone who just wants to sail. There are few approved courses around from basic to advanced for training and knowledge. There is one thing I have learned and it is printed with permanent ink in my forehead, Fear is the beginning of every great adventure and real training starts when you turn your head aft and you realize that you lost sight of land. But one needs to have a basic knowledge of sailing, weather and survival. One needs to know how to read the horizon, the stars and the sun. Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: Curtis [mailto:cpt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: October 5, 2014 7:20 PM To: Letsgo Sailing; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? Yes I know. But hard to get work moving boats without one. I will need to find a way to make Cash when I retire. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello Sailors, I am new to the list and like to greet all of you. I have been a member of other lists like CYOA and Liveaboard for many years. Some information will let you know that I have a sailor wannabe sing I was born on my fathers custom build wooden sailboat while circumnavigating. Since then somehow saltwater sipped into my veins and cant get rid of it. Long story short, due to unfortunate situations and steps forward I had to sell my Columbia 8.7 a year and a half ago Christmas. I set my eyes on an CC Invader 36 that needs a lot of work and it is basically gutted with an old 3 cylinder Volvo with a hugemangus flywheel in the front. Any way nice to meet you all Captains and Admirals. I just want to add to this conversation, if anyone of you is familiar with manufacturing floor. Liability in Licencing is like yellow lines on a plant floor. If they are laid out you have to abide by them, So, if you have a licence you are lyable because you have training and someone else said you should know better. Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: October 4, 2014 10:15 PM To: CC List; Dennis C.; CC List; Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I think Bob was trying to understand what the liability implications of having more qualifications were. On Oct 4, 2014 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Bob, Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance providers offer discount for such course. I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US Navy. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html Ive been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if youre not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not youre at fault, there are some legal ramifications that arent there if youre not CG-licensed. So Ive held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there arent worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test
Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?
re Liability. I seem to remember that the Westsail 32 that was abandoned during 'The Perfect Storm' was actually doing fine by the captain, and it was the pickup crew who went hysterical and called the USCG for rescue. The captain set the boat up and tucked himself into the quarterberth and was ready to ride it out. (One account says he took a bottle with him into the quarterberth, and I would probably do the same thing under the circumstances.) My point being that he was taken off the boat because he was a licensed captain, and disregarding a direct order from the USCG would cost him his license. He didn't want to go. It turns out he was right, and the boat ended up on the New Jersey shore in very good condition. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?
Hello Sailors, I am new to the list and like to greet all of you. I have been a member of other lists like CYOA and Liveaboard for many years. Some information will let you know that I have a sailor wannabe sing I was born on my fathers custom build wooden sailboat while circumnavigating. Since then somehow saltwater sipped into my veins and cant get rid of it. Long story short, due to unfortunate situations and steps forward I had to sell my Columbia 8.7 a year and a half ago Christmas. I set my eyes on an CC Invader 36 that needs a lot of work and it is basically gutted with an old 3 cylinder Volvo with a hugemangus flywheel in the front. Any way nice to meet you all Captains and Admirals. I just want to add to this conversation, if anyone of you is familiar with manufacturing floor. Liability in Licencing is like yellow lines on a plant floor. If they are laid out you have to abide by them, So, if you have a licence you are lyable because you have training and someone else said you should know better. Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: October 4, 2014 10:15 PM To: CC List; Dennis C.; CC List; Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I think Bob was trying to understand what the liability implications of having more qualifications were. On Oct 4, 2014 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Bob, Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance providers offer discount for such course. I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US Navy. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html Ive been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if youre not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not youre at fault, there are some legal ramifications that arent there if youre not CG-licensed. So Ive held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there arent worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Yes I know. But hard to get work moving boats without one. I will need to find a way to make Cash when I retire. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hello Sailors, I am new to the list and like to greet all of you. I have been a member of other lists like CYOA and Liveaboard for many years. Some information will let you know that I have a sailor wannabe sing I was born on my father's custom build wooden sailboat while circumnavigating. Since then somehow saltwater sipped into my veins and can't get rid of it. Long story short, due to unfortunate situations and steps forward I had to sell my Columbia 8.7 a year and a half ago Christmas. I set my eyes on an CC Invader 36 that needs a lot of work and it is basically gutted with an old 3 cylinder Volvo with a hugemangus flywheel in the front. Any way nice to meet you all Captains and Admirals. I just want to add to this conversation, if anyone of you is familiar with manufacturing floor. Liability in Licencing is like yellow lines on a plant floor. If they are laid out you have to abide by them, So, if you have a licence you are lyable because you have training and someone else said you should know better. Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List *Sent:* October 4, 2014 10:15 PM *To:* CC List; Dennis C.; CC List; Dennis C. *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I think Bob was trying to understand what the liability implications of having more qualifications were. On Oct 4, 2014 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Bob, Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance providers offer discount for such course. I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US Navy. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I've been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you're not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you're at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren't there if you're not CG-licensed. So I've held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren't worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than
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Again, I don’t have my ticket; but talking with some people who do, if you get into any kind of accident, it seems there is a different (higher) level of scrutiny and possible liability if you have a CG license, even if you’re just out sailing your own vessel for recreation. Like Bob said, “he/she should have known better”. And it sounds like it’s not unheard of for a license to get pulled, based on the severity of the incident, regardless of whose fault it really was. So if you’re not going to actively use it to work for pay, I question the usefulness of getting one, aside from the detailed training and knowledge you acquire in the process. Just my take. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . bobmo...@gmail.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I’ve been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you’re not “on the clock” and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you’re at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren’t there if you’re not CG-licensed. So I’ve held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I’ve been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you’re not “on the clock” and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you’re at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren’t there if you’re not CG-licensed. So I’ve held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Bob, Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance providers offer discount for such course. I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US Navy. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I’ve been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you’re not “on the clock” and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you’re at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren’t there if you’re not CG-licensed. So I’ve held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I think Bob was trying to understand what the liability implications of having more qualifications were. On Oct 4, 2014 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Bob, Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance providers offer discount for such course. I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US Navy. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was licensed. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I've been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you're not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you're at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren't there if you're not CG-licensed. So I've held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren't worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Curtis, I used a class-room based approach to getting my CG license and would highly recommend that method. Technically you don’t really need to take any lessons or classes. Simply show up and take the test with the Coast Guard. Given how tough it was to pass the test after extensive class-room sessions I’m certain that taking the test without any intensive instruction would have been laughably bad. Actually, horrible would be a better term... You’ll learn quite a bit in the classes. Also, if you do take a classroom approach make sure that the provider is authorized by the Coast Guard to give the test at the end of class. That alone makes a big difference. Along with final testing, the service I used provided class members with the physical and drug tests. Another couple of items that you will need in order to get your license. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 ¢ Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Everyone learns differently. For me on-line presentations and sample tests are much more effective than book learning. Of course, I work in eLearning so i have to say that! John On Oct 3, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 ¢ Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Drug and medical testing wasn't cheap either. We also had to get a TWIC card at ~$137 a piece. I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I have a couple of friends that found out the hard that when the USCG says No, TWIC, no license they mean it.. Also, my wife I used the Sea School back in 1988 and both scored 99 on the written test.. We just renewed both licenses and the cost for the 2 was approximately USD 500.00 not including the hassle of renewing the TWIC, drug screens and physicals. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 Savannah Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald, export manager Fitzgerald Forwarding Co. Inc. FMC license no:1966F 260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no: 912 898.9458 Email*: j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com www.fitzgeraldforwarding.com **PLEASE REMOVE honeys...@aol.com honeys...@aol.com FROM YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND IMMEDIATELY ADD j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com* On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Drug and medical testing wasn't cheap either. We also had to get a TWIC card at ~$137 a piece. I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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What's TWIC? Gary S/V Expresso ~~~_/)~~ On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a couple of friends that found out the hard that when the USCG says No, TWIC, no license they mean it.. Also, my wife I used the Sea School back in 1988 and both scored 99 on the written test.. We just renewed both licenses and the cost for the 2 was approximately USD 500.00 not including the hassle of renewing the TWIC, drug screens and physicals. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 Savannah Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald, export manager Fitzgerald Forwarding Co. Inc. FMC license no:1966F 260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no: 912 898.9458 Email*: j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com www.fitzgeraldforwarding.com **PLEASE REMOVE honeys...@aol.com honeys...@aol.com FROM YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND IMMEDIATELY ADD j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com* On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Drug and medical testing wasn't cheap either. We also had to get a TWIC card at ~$137 a piece. I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Transportation workers identification card Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: Gary Russell via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Jack Fitzgerald j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com, CC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 3:38 PM What's TWIC? Gary S/V Expresso ~~~_/)~~ On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I have a couple of friends that found out the hard that when the USCG says No, TWIC, no license they mean it.. Also, my wife I used the Sea School back in 1988 and both scored 99 on the written test.. We just renewed both licenses and the cost for the 2 was approximately USD 500.00 not including the hassle of renewing the TWIC, drug screens and physicals. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY US12788 Savannah Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald, export manager Fitzgerald Forwarding Co. Inc. FMC license no:1966F 260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no: 912 898.9458 Email*: j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com www.fitzgeraldforwarding.com **PLEASE REMOVE honeys...@aol.com honeys...@aol.com FROM YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND IMMEDIATELY ADD j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com* On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Drug and medical testing wasn't cheap either. We also had to get a TWIC card at ~$137 a piece. I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:
Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?
I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:48 AM To: Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 ¢ Best regards, Curtis McDaniel, CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain mailto:bobhick...@rogers.com cpt.b...@gmail.com __/) . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I’ve been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you’re not “on the clock” and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you’re at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren’t there if you’re not CG-licensed. So I’ve held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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One have be able to prove time at sea over a 5 year period (I think that it is 365 days total, but you can look this up under the licensing requirments) and if applying for Mater's license (offshore limits apply) that must be proven to have taken place over the demarcation line Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald HONEY CC 39 TM Savannah On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Goodyear via CnC-List *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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What does an liability insurance provider think about a captain's license? Curious. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The second point is valid as Fred says. When my renewal came up a few years back I was all set to let it lapse for just the reasons that Fred said. I don’t use it for “pay.” I got it because I kept talking about it and my wife urged to go ahead and get it. When it came to renewal time and I mentioned that I was considering letting it go she was the one that said that I should keep it and that it was important to her. Interesting… When sailing I’m pretty sanguine about the responsibility aspects of having a license but shoveling along on my 261 Mako CC at speed it becomes a very, very different matter entirely. I’m still considering letting it go next re-up. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Oct 3, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I’ve been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you’re not “on the clock” and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you’re at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren’t there if you’re not CG-licensed. So I’ve held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren’t worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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My insurance was discounted. On Oct 3, 2014 5:36 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: What does an liability insurance provider think about a captain's license? Curious. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The second point is valid as Fred says. When my renewal came up a few years back I was all set to let it lapse for just the reasons that Fred said. I don't use it for pay. I got it because I kept talking about it and my wife urged to go ahead and get it. When it came to renewal time and I mentioned that I was considering letting it go she was the one that said that I should keep it and that it was important to her. Interesting... When sailing I'm pretty sanguine about the responsibility aspects of having a license but shoveling along on my 261 Mako CC at speed it becomes a very, very different matter entirely. I'm still considering letting it go next re-up. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin's Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/ On Oct 3, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I've been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you're not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you're at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren't there if you're not CG-licensed. So I've held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren't worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Likewise, I know a lot of people that call themselves engineers because they have a piece of paper. I also know one individual (dock neighbor, sweedish gentlemen) that doesn't have that piece of paper but would put most of the others to shame. On Oct 3, 2014 5:16 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren't worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Goodyear via CnC-List *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 11:48 AM *To:* Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room? I second Josh's comments about Mariners Learning System - but I had the hard copy books (as well as online / DVD's) and found myself using them on long flights, making notes etc. I passed the test easily after taking the course - I added a couple of apps to my phone for light / signal flash cards that came in handy. I would recommend Mariners Learning System - if you are OK learning from materials / on your own. Just to note, this was not my first experience with certification, having done the RYA tests when I lived in England. Getting the correct medical and drug testing done is not as simple as it sounds. Tim On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Online at mariners learning system was fine for me and my wife. I didn't like the materials because it was a video that simply read through the course book. The tests were simple quizes and module tests were rote memorization of the written and video material. We made flash cards of all of the quiz and test questions and passed the final test pretty easily. Crammed the night before. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 3, 2014 10:59 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Need some advise I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test like that? they claim a 98% pass rate. Lets here your 2 *¢* *Best regards,* *Curtis McDaniel, * *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. -Mark Twain *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com* * __/) * . ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Do you know exactly what the implications are? I always kind of likend it to riding a bike drunk without ever having had a driver's license. Or driving a car without one for that matter. On Oct 3, 2014 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Agreed on the 2nd point. And yes, there are still time-on-the-water requirements: http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html I've been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.). But even if you're not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own vessel), whether or not you're at fault, there are some legal ramifications that aren't there if you're not CG-licensed. So I've held off on getting my ticket. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more limiting restriction. Is that not in place anymore? I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren't worth a damn. IE: It takes more than just passing a test. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
