Re: Stus-List Harken furler
I’m a regular customer at Fawcett’s. They are awesome! Joel On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:33 PM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Final thought, ordered at about 2:30, Fawcett Marine shipped by 4, > arriving from east coast to.michigam Thursday...what a world we live in. > > Bill Walker > -- > On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Help! Lost the feeder on headfoil off the mark iii harken furler Sunday > after a race. Part # 962. Can't find a dealer who stocks. Not pre > feeder, but part that goes on extrusion. Several emails out to dealers. > Bill Walker > CnC 36 > Pentwater, Mi. > > Bill Walker > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
Final thought, ordered at about 2:30, Fawcett Marine shipped by 4, arriving from east coast to.michigam Thursday...what a world we live in. Bill Walker On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List wrote: Help! Lost the feeder on headfoil off the mark iii harken furler Sunday after a race. Part # 962. Can't find a dealer who stocks. Not pre feeder, but part that goes on extrusion. Several emails out to dealers. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi. Bill Walker ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
Hi Bill When we are switching from Race to cruise and vice versa I always have to remove the feeder to raise or lower the collar. Is a major PITA for just the reason you describe. I ONLY do this at my slip where at least a diver could locate the part should it go overboard. I also purchased a spare the day I saw one at a local chandlery as I knew the part for mine is no longer made. I think my furler may be older than yours. Mike Persistence Halifax, NS From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 4:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: WILLIAM WALKER Subject: Stus-List Harken furler Thanks to everyone. Called Harken and determined that my furler was Mark III, unit 1 as Dennis suspected. 7.5 inch drum. Feeder is Part #812, again as Dennis said. Found at Fawcett Marine for $80 and free shipping. Thanks to all..wish harken had a better design on this... Never try to remove after gin and tonic time post race.. BILL WALKER C N C 36 Pentwater, Mi Bill Walker ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Harken furler
Thanks to everyone. Called Harken and determined that my furler was Mark III, unit 1 as Dennis suspected. 7.5 inch drum. Feeder is Part #812, again as Dennis said. Found at Fawcett Marine for $80 and free shipping. Thanks to all..wish harken had a better design on this... Never try to remove after gin and tonic time post race.. BILL WALKER C N C 36 Pentwater, Mi Bill Walker ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
Bill,Try port Townsend Rigging+1-360-385-6330They might have one laying around. Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA. Original message From: WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List Date: 8/28/18 07:37 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: WILLIAM WALKER Subject: Stus-List Harken furler Help! Lost the feeder on headfoil off the mark iii harken furler Sunday after a race. Part # 962. Can't find a dealer who stocks. Not pre feeder, but part that goes on extrusion. Several emails out to dealers. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi. Bill Walker ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
For a 36 you probably have a Unit 1, possibly a Unit 1.5. MKIII's have a black metal cover surrounding the drum, screws to hold the extrusions together. Did you call Harken directly? Excellent customer support from my experience. Dennis C. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 10:37 AM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Not sure which mark iii I have, there are several parts diagrams for > unit 1, as well as other versions. The one you suggest looks like it, but > so do others. They all have different feeder part #s..anyone know how to > figure out which.mark iii I have..don t see any markings other than harken > mark iii.. > > Bill Walker > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: Bill, I show the feeder for a Harken MKIII Unit 1 as part 812. Is this same as yours? The fastener shows as Harken 192. Mauripro lists it. https://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/product/XZHAR812.html Fisheries Supplies says ships in 10-12 days. I recently bought a trim cap for my unit from apsltd.com. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Dennis, Not sure which mark iii I have, there are several parts diagrams for unit 1, as well as other versions. The one you suggest looks like it, but so do others. They all have different feeder part #s..anyone know how to figure out which.mark iii I have..don t see any markings other than harken mark iii.. Bill Walker ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Bill Walker___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
Bill, I show the feeder for a Harken MKIII Unit 1 as part 812. Is this same as yours? The fastener shows as Harken 192. Mauripro lists it. https://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/product/XZHAR812.html Fisheries Supplies says ships in 10-12 days. I recently bought a trim cap for my unit from apsltd.com. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 9:42 AM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Help! Lost the feeder on headfoil off the mark iii harken furler Sunday > after a race. Part # 962. Can't find a dealer who stocks. Not pre > feeder, but part that goes on extrusion. Several emails out to dealers. > Bill Walker > CnC 36 > Pentwater, Mi. > > Bill Walker > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
I feel your pain. I am so petrified of losing mine I keep a spare. Try some rigging shops or consignment shops. In my area, it's Zern Rigging 850.261.4129 r...@zernrigging.com or Southern Cross 850.377.1776 or i...@southerncrossmarineservices.com Also try Stix n Rig'n in Kemah, TX or boaters resale shop of Texas. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Dennis On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 9:42 AM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Help! Lost the feeder on headfoil off the mark iii harken furler Sunday > after a race. Part # 962. Can't find a dealer who stocks. Not pre > feeder, but part that goes on extrusion. Several emails out to dealers. > Bill Walker > CnC 36 > Pentwater, Mi. > > Bill Walker > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler
Help! Lost the feeder on headfoil off the mark iii harken furler Sunday > after a race. Part # 962. Can't find a dealer who stocks. Not pre > feeder, but part that goes on extrusion. Several emails out to dealers. > Bill Walker > CnC 36 > Pentwater, Mi. > > Bill Walker > Give these guys a call: sailingservices.com ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Stus-List Harken furler
Help! Lost the feeder on headfoil off the mark iii harken furler Sunday after a race. Part # 962. Can't find a dealer who stocks. Not pre feeder, but part that goes on extrusion. Several emails out to dealers. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater, Mi. Bill Walker ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Harken furler extrusion repair
I'm impressed. Very nice solution. My buddy and I have encountered the same issue a couple times. Being Harken installers, we usually disassembled the furler and reinstalled with spare parts we happen to keep around for just such a purpose. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 On the hard in Pensacola Shipyard On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Dave Syer via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > see below for details on my recent repair of a harken furler extrusion - > badly worn at the top. > > http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/ > > Dave Windstar, '85 33ii > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All > Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Stus-List Harken furler extrusion repair
see below for details on my recent repair of a harken furler extrusion - badly worn at the top. http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/ Dave Windstar, '85 33ii ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC
Yes - heat to disable the Lock tite. Discovered this the hard way ... From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:14 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC Furler is sold ... finally!! For reference, it came apart quite easily with a heat gun, screwdriver (this model has set screws, not drift pins) and a stout putty knife to get the foil sections separating. Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII From: Peter Fellmailto:prf...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:13 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.commailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC For Sale: Mark 1 Unit 0 Harken furling gear. Drum assembly, integral turnbuckle, 7/16 diameter toggle, torque tube, halyard swivel. Approximately 37-1/2 feet total length, but the top 4-inches or so of the foil is damaged. The foil is still assembled and the forestay is still installed but the top portion of the forestay is damaged as well. Foil would have to be trimmed back to a shorter length and new forestay installed. However, when it was removed from the boat, there was some spare foil length under the bottom collar. The furler is date stamped 1993 but the rigger who installed my new unit deemed this one to be in very good condition. Located in Sidney, British Columbia ... 5-minute walk down the road to a local marina, so easy to transport the furler to your boat. Asking $400 Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC
Furler is sold ... finally!! For reference, it came apart quite easily with a heat gun, screwdriver (this model has set screws, not drift pins) and a stout putty knife to get the foil sections separating. Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet CC 27 MkIII From: Peter Fell Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:13 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC For Sale: Mark 1 Unit 0 Harken furling gear. Drum assembly, integral turnbuckle, 7/16 diameter toggle, torque tube, halyard swivel. Approximately 37-1/2 feet total length, but the top 4-inches or so of the foil is damaged. The foil is still assembled and the forestay is still installed but the top portion of the forestay is damaged as well. Foil would have to be trimmed back to a shorter length and new forestay installed. However, when it was removed from the boat, there was some spare foil length under the bottom collar. The furler is date stamped 1993 but the rigger who installed my new unit deemed this one to be in very good condition. Located in Sidney, British Columbia ... 5-minute walk down the road to a local marina, so easy to transport the furler to your boat. Asking $400 Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC
Peter When you remove it for shipping be aware Locktite was used when assembling the foil sections. Use heat (propane or butane torch) until it sizzles and then the set screws will come out. I learned this the hard way Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:13 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC For Sale: Mark 1 Unit 0 Harken furling gear. Drum assembly, integral turnbuckle, 7/16 diameter toggle, torque tube, halyard swivel. Approximately 37-1/2 feet total length, but the top 4-inches or so of the foil is damaged. The foil is still assembled and the forestay is still installed but the top portion of the forestay is damaged as well. Foil would have to be trimmed back to a shorter length and new forestay installed. However, when it was removed from the boat, there was some spare foil length under the bottom collar. The furler is date stamped 1993 but the rigger who installed my new unit deemed this one to be in very good condition. Located in Sidney, British Columbia ... 5-minute walk down the road to a local marina, so easy to transport the furler to your boat. Asking $400 Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Harken Furler for sale - Sidney, BC
For Sale: Mark 1 Unit 0 Harken furling gear. Drum assembly, integral turnbuckle, 7/16 diameter toggle, torque tube, halyard swivel. Approximately 37-1/2 feet total length, but the top 4-inches or so of the foil is damaged. The foil is still assembled and the forestay is still installed but the top portion of the forestay is damaged as well. Foil would have to be trimmed back to a shorter length and new forestay installed. However, when it was removed from the boat, there was some spare foil length under the bottom collar. The furler is date stamped 1993 but the rigger who installed my new unit deemed this one to be in very good condition. Located in Sidney, British Columbia ... 5-minute walk down the road to a local marina, so easy to transport the furler to your boat. Asking $400 Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Success I think! After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally in the ‘parts bin’ of a rigging shop (it’s actually new ... still in the plastic wrap). The rigger has a 2nd piece as well that has been cut down. Now he says he can’t be 100% sure it is a Mark 1 foil ... dimensions are correct and it is a screw (not rollpin) unit (the Mark 1 Unit 0 were the only Unit 1’s that used screws rather than rollpins) but if it is a Mark 2 foil, then the shape inside would be slightly different ... this fellow says the differences in the early Marks is small enough that the connector can be modified to suit without too much difficulty. I’ll find out tomorrow exactly what it might cost me for the part and also what the rigging shop will charge me to replace the forestay and fix-up the foil / install a halyard restrainer. This fellow says typically they make-up a new top-cap out of some plastic and he feels the old Mark 1 Unit 0 on my boat still has some good life left in it – in fact it seems this guy prefers the older Harkens to the newer ones. Another rigger has quoted me $950 to repair the existing furler (not including replacement parts), replace the forestay and add a halyard restrainer (all with the mast up) and about $2500 to replace with a new Mark IV Unit 0. (I can probably cut about $250 off that by ordering the furler myself). I’m quite leaning towards keeping the old unit. Mainly a cost thing at this time – I’ve got enough other projects needing doing! ... if I can keep the old one going for a couple more years I’ve been told the rest of my standing rigging probably only has a couple year’s left in it so then would be the opportunity to have the mast down and reassess the need to redo the furling. I’m still interested in finding a user manual for the old Mark 1 furling unit, if anyone has one they can scan and email or send to me so I can scan (and return). Hopefully I can get this sorted out in the next couple of weeks, so that I can get measured-up for my new genoa! Any further words of wisdom? Thanks, Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII From: Dennis C. Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:48 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Peter, It looks like there's a block for an external halyard being held out of the way in the pic. I'd have a better idea if I'd climbed the rig myself but is it possible that this block rubbed the damage on the extrusion? Although not to the degree I see in your pic, Touche's masthead had a similar issue and result. I'm sending you pics off list to illustrate. Dennis C. -- From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Thanks guys ... all great info and suggestions. I highly suspect (and so does the rigger that inspected the unit) that the previous owner wrapped the halyard on one or more occasion ... I admit to doing it once while alongside the 1st time I put the genoa up but the rigger figured that was a pretty old damage to the foil. I suspect it’s been wearing on / catching the forestay over time. My wire halyards don’t look too good either the jib halyard has a definite cork screw to it – so I’ll be replacing those as well. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII From: Jim Watts Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:02 AM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Russ, I think the wire is just coming unlaid. Looks like it may have been twisted against the lay somehow. I'd still replace it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 19 January 2014 09:07, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi Dennis Peter, I would say when, not if, you replace that forestay. The gap showing in the lay of the wire in this pic would lead me to inspect for a broken strand (or two). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:18 AM 19/01/2014, you wrote: Peter, What caused the damage to the top of the extrusion? Hard to tell from the pic. Need to figure that out. ... If you are replacing the forestay, you can do this when you drop the unit for that. I'm assuming you're replacing it with another swaged forestay or are you using a Norseman or NavTec compression fitting? If a swaged eye, then you will have to disassemble the furler completely. If you are going that way, just upgrade to the MKIV. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 (Peter Fell)
Peter: I have a manual, but I'm not sure what model. I'll check when I'm at the boat on Wednesday night, and let you know. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR Success I think! After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally in the ‘parts bin’ of a rigging shop (it’s actually new ... still in the plastic wrap). The rigger has a 2nd piece as well that has been cut down. Now he says he can’t be 100% sure it is a Mark 1 foil ... dimensions are correct and it is a screw (not rollpin) unit (the Mark 1 Unit 0 were the only Unit 1’s that used screws rather than rollpins) but if it is a Mark 2 foil, then the shape inside would be slightly different ... this fellow says the differences in the early Marks is small enough that the connector can be modified to suit without too much difficulty. I’ll find out tomorrow exactly what it might cost me for the part and also what the rigging shop will charge me to replace the forestay and fix-up the foil / install a halyard restrainer. This fellow says typically they make-up a new top-cap out of some plastic and he feels the old Mark 1 Unit 0 on my boat still has some good life left in it – in fact it seems this guy prefers the older Harkens to the newer ones. Another rigger has quoted me $950 to repair the existing furler (not including replacement parts), replace the forestay and add a halyard restrainer (all with the mast up) and about $2500 to replace with a new Mark IV Unit 0. (I can probably cut about $250 off that by ordering the furler myself). I’m quite leaning towards keeping the old unit. Mainly a cost thing at this time – I’ve got enough other projects needing doing! ... if I can keep the old one going for a couple more years I’ve been told the rest of my standing rigging probably only has a couple year’s left in it so then would be the opportunity to have the mast down and reassess the need to redo the furling. I’m still interested in finding a user manual for the old Mark 1 furling unit, if anyone has one they can scan and email or send to me so I can scan (and return). Hopefully I can get this sorted out in the next couple of weeks, so that I can get measured-up for my new genoa! Any further words of wisdom? Thanks, Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Peter Fell wrote: Success I think! After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally in the ‘parts bin’ of a rigging shop (it’s actually new ... still in the plastic wrap). The rigger has a 2nd piece as well that has been cut down. Now he says he can’t be 100% sure it is a Mark 1 foil ... dimensions are correct and it is a screw (not rollpin) unit (the Mark 1 Unit 0 were the only Unit 1’s that used screws rather than rollpins) but if it is a Mark 2 foil, then the shape inside would be slightly different ... this fellow says the differences in the early Marks is small enough that the connector can be modified to suit without too much difficulty. I’ll find out tomorrow exactly what it might cost me for the part and also what the rigging shop will charge me to replace the forestay and fix-up the foil / install a halyard restrainer. This fellow says typically they make-up a new top-cap out of some plastic and he feels the old Mark 1 Unit 0 on my boat still has some good life left in it – in fact it seems this guy prefers the older Harkens to the newer ones. Another rigger has quoted me $950 to repair the existing furler (not including replacement parts), replace the forestay and add a halyard restrainer (all with the mast up) and about $2500 to replace with a new Mark IV Unit 0. (I can probably cut about $250 off that by ordering the furler myself). I’m quite leaning towards keeping the old unit. Mainly a cost thing at this time – I’ve got enough other projects needing doing! ... if I can keep the old one going for a couple more years I’ve been told the rest of my standing rigging probably only has a couple year’s left in it so then would be the opportunity to have the mast down and reassess the need to redo the furling. I’m still interested in finding a user manual for the old Mark 1 furling unit, if anyone has one they can scan and email or send to me so I can scan (and return). Hopefully I can get this sorted out in the next couple of weeks, so that I can get measured-up for my new genoa! Any further words of wisdom? Thanks, Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII Peter, I have a scanned manual for a Harken Unit #1 from May 1991 that a fellow gave me many years ago. My furler uses spring pins but the manual is for a furler that uses screw connectors. I'll scan a couple of pages and send them to you. If it's what you're looking for I'll mail you the whole manual. Bill Caprice 1 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 (Peter Fell)
Thanks Alan Please check ... but for a 35 I’m assuming it would be a Unit 1. Nice weather you guys are having down in Portland! I think if you went to the boat now you’d need to take an ice pick with you. My wife is there right now visiting our daughter (at school) ... she’s staying an extra day to see if things improve. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII From: Alan Bergen Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 (Peter Fell) Peter: I have a manual, but I'm not sure what model. I'll check when I'm at the boat on Wednesday night, and let you know. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR Success I think! After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally in the ‘parts bin’ of a rigging shop (it’s actually new ... still in the plastic wrap). The rigger has a 2nd piece as well that has been cut down. Now he says he can’t be 100% sure it is a Mark 1 foil ... dimensions are correct and it is a screw (not rollpin) unit (the Mark 1 Unit 0 were the only Unit 1’s that used screws rather than rollpins) but if it is a Mark 2 foil, then the shape inside would be slightly different ... this fellow says the differences in the early Marks is small enough that the connector can be modified to suit without too much difficulty. I’ll find out tomorrow exactly what it might cost me for the part and also what the rigging shop will charge me to replace the forestay and fix-up the foil / install a halyard restrainer. This fellow says typically they make-up a new top-cap out of some plastic and he feels the old Mark 1 Unit 0 on my boat still has some good life left in it – in fact it seems this guy prefers the older Harkens to the newer ones. Another rigger has quoted me $950 to repair the existing furler (not including replacement parts), replace the forestay and add a halyard restrainer (all with the mast up) and about $2500 to replace with a new Mark IV Unit 0. (I can probably cut about $250 off that by ordering the furler myself). I’m quite leaning towards keeping the old unit. Mainly a cost thing at this time – I’ve got enough other projects needing doing! ... if I can keep the old one going for a couple more years I’ve been told the rest of my standing rigging probably only has a couple year’s left in it so then would be the opportunity to have the mast down and reassess the need to redo the furling. I’m still interested in finding a user manual for the old Mark 1 furling unit, if anyone has one they can scan and email or send to me so I can scan (and return). Hopefully I can get this sorted out in the next couple of weeks, so that I can get measured-up for my new genoa! Any further words of wisdom? Thanks, Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Thanks Bill Interesting it uses screws ... but if the torque tube is tapered, not straight, then it is a Mark 2. I think there was some overlap in the models ... the code stamped on mine indicates it was built in early 1993. -Original Message- From: Bill Connon Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:37 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Peter Fell wrote: Success I think! After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally in the ‘parts bin’ of a rigging shop (it’s actually new ... still in the plastic wrap). The rigger has a 2nd piece as well that has been cut down. Now he says he can’t be 100% sure it is a Mark 1 foil ... dimensions are correct and it is a screw (not rollpin) unit (the Mark 1 Unit 0 were the only Unit 1’s that used screws rather than rollpins) but if it is a Mark 2 foil, then the shape inside would be slightly different ... this fellow says the differences in the early Marks is small enough that the connector can be modified to suit without too much difficulty. I’ll find out tomorrow exactly what it might cost me for the part and also what the rigging shop will charge me to replace the forestay and fix-up the foil / install a halyard restrainer. This fellow says typically they make-up a new top-cap out of some plastic and he feels the old Mark 1 Unit 0 on my boat still has some good life left in it – in fact it seems this guy prefers the older Harkens to the newer ones. Another rigger has quoted me $950 to repair the existing furler (not including replacement parts), replace the forestay and add a halyard restrainer (all with the mast up) and about $2500 to replace with a new Mark IV Unit 0. (I can probably cut about $250 off that by ordering the furler myself). I’m quite leaning towards keeping the old unit. Mainly a cost thing at this time – I’ve got enough other projects needing doing! ... if I can keep the old one going for a couple more years I’ve been told the rest of my standing rigging probably only has a couple year’s left in it so then would be the opportunity to have the mast down and reassess the need to redo the furling. I’m still interested in finding a user manual for the old Mark 1 furling unit, if anyone has one they can scan and email or send to me so I can scan (and return). Hopefully I can get this sorted out in the next couple of weeks, so that I can get measured-up for my new genoa! Any further words of wisdom? Thanks, Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII Peter, I have a scanned manual for a Harken Unit #1 from May 1991 that a fellow gave me many years ago. My furler uses spring pins but the manual is for a furler that uses screw connectors. I'll scan a couple of pages and send them to you. If it's what you're looking for I'll mail you the whole manual. Bill Caprice 1 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Peter, if you find a good source of these parts, I would be interested, as well. My top cap is broken. Unfortunately, I cannot share the manual, as my unit is 00. btw. I found this on Sailing Anarchy (http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=61882): Click here for Harken's Identifying Furlers page. The series number (0-392) stamped on the top of the spool plus the non-tapered torque tube are dead giveaways. The list of available manuals and parts lists is here. The MKIII is the oldest model for which a manual is available online. None of the links works; however, they had a manual PDF there. I could not download it, because I am not a member (I am waiting for confirmation). Marek -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:25:01 -0800 From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Message-ID: fd8b6bff27764757adfd9c75f4f2d...@intra.camosun.bc.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I?m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I?ve got a partial copy of the parts list ? looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Hi, If it is like the new MkIV it should ride on the wire ( about 5/16 from the swage end ). Looking at your pictures looks like it is a pretty old model, maybe a new MkIV would be a good thing ( especially at the 1,200 price). The new MkIV is essentially a do-it yourself kit, including everything ( shackles, pre-feeder, 3M 5200, syringe , 55 feet line etc ). On my 27 MkIII I used a 7/16 toggle and will install a restrainer this year ( need a shim to sit well on the mast ). I also replaced my forestay ( 7/16 ), following Harken recommendation. Depending of which sails you currently have, le luff tape must be number 6 ( 5mm ) , 6mm can fit with a lot of lubrikote :-) Harken installation manual is top notch( plan to read it 2-3 times ). A nice unit but expect ti use some power to furl a new sail completely ( so only the sacrificial sunbrella is exposed to the sun). That may be because I have 7oz FlexP genoa, quite stiff sail. Sylvain CC27 MkIII From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Thanks Dennis Rides on the barrel of the swage. I wonder if I can trim this down? I didn’t think by looking at the info available online that it should ride on the forestay. I’m ordering a new genoa within the next two weeks so now’s the time to fix this. Here are some pictures: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/836/pll3.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/571/fw5u.jpg That forestay needs to be replaced and currently there is no halyard restrainer either. Discussing those with a rigger right now. Of course I could just replace the furler as well I’ve gotten some info on new ones. I can get a Mark IV Unit 0 for under $1200. Toggle and restrainer and forestay would be additional to that. Or a Furlex for about $1600 that includes the restrainer and forestay. From: Dennis C. Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:22 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Peter, I don't think my buddy and I have any parts for a Mark 1. I will check with him tomorrow. He may have something in his gold pile. We haven't worked on a Mark 1 in a long while. Last Mark 1 I worked on was basically an upgrade to the newer extrusions to get rid of the roll pins. As for the top cap, is the top of the extrusion riding on the barrel of the swage eye or on the wire? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Peter, What caused the damage to the top of the extrusion? Hard to tell from the pic. Need to figure that out. Yes, you can cut the extrusion off, but only if you have enough extra at the bottom inside the torque tube to be able to slide the extrusion assembly upward so it rides on the swage barrel again. The MKIV unit would be a nice upgrade. You could sell the old one on Craigslist or eBay. I typically get $300-400 for a used Harken furler on eBay. The issue you'd have is the roll pins. You can drive them out with a pin punch. You can make a top cap from a PVC pipe cap or similar thing. You could use a cap from a bottle, etc. Any tough plastic cap would do. I'd drill a hole the size of the swage barrel and split the cap. Loosen the allen screws in the torque tube, slide the extrusion down, spread the split to slide it over the wire, wrap the cap with tape and slide it up over the swage barrel. I've replaced top caps this way except the units were new enough we could get the Harken cap for them. The one on Touche' is this way. I have to re-tape it every couple of years. The other option you could try is to make a top cap similar to the new MKIV trim caps. The new trim caps slide into the extrusion. It's Harken #HFG679. Go here: http://www.harken.com/uploadedfiles/Product_Support/PDF/4416-Parts-List.pdf Scroll down to the top of Page 2. If you could make one or shave down one of the Harken ones, you could cut the top of your existing extrusion and insert a new trim cap so the extrusion with new trim cap rides on the wire. Would require a bit of work but might be a good solution. You can cut the extrusion with a Dremel. Just be very careful not to nick the wire. If you are replacing the forestay, you can do this when you drop the unit for that. I'm assuming you're replacing it with another swaged forestay or are you using a Norseman or NavTec compression fitting? If a swaged eye, then you will have to disassemble the furler completely. If you are going that way, just upgrade to the MKIV. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Thanks Dennis Rides on the barrel of the swage. I wonder if I can trim this down? I didn’t think by looking at the info available online that it should ride on the forestay. I’m ordering a new genoa within the next two weeks so now’s the time to fix this. Here are some pictures: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/836/pll3.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/571/fw5u.jpg That forestay needs to be replaced and currently there is no halyard restrainer either. Discussing those with a rigger right now. Of course I could just replace the furler as well I’ve gotten some info on new ones. I can get a Mark IV Unit 0 for under $1200. Toggle and restrainer and forestay would be additional to that. Or a Furlex for about $1600 that includes the restrainer and forestay. From: Dennis C. Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:22 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Peter, I don't think my buddy and I have any parts for a Mark 1. I will check with him tomorrow. He may have something in his gold pile. We haven't worked on a Mark 1 in a long while. Last Mark 1 I worked on was basically an upgrade to the newer extrusions to get rid of the roll pins. As for the top cap, is the top of the extrusion riding on the barrel of the swage eye or on the wire? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Hi Dennis Peter, I would say when, not if, you replace that forestay. The gap showing in the lay of the wire in this pic would lead me to inspect for a broken strand (or two). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:18 AM 19/01/2014, you wrote: Peter, What caused the damage to the top of the extrusion? Hard to tell from the pic. Need to figure that out. ... If you are replacing the forestay, you can do this when you drop the unit for that. I'm assuming you're replacing it with another swaged forestay or are you using a Norseman or NavTec compression fitting? If a swaged eye, then you will have to disassemble the furler completely. If you are going that way, just upgrade to the MKIV. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Russ, I think the wire is just coming unlaid. Looks like it may have been twisted against the lay somehow. I'd still replace it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 19 January 2014 09:07, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi Dennis Peter, I would say when, not if, you replace that forestay. The gap showing in the lay of the wire in this pic would lead me to inspect for a broken strand (or two). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg Cheers, Russ *Sweet *35 mk-1 At 08:18 AM 19/01/2014, you wrote: Peter, What caused the damage to the top of the extrusion? Hard to tell from the pic. Need to figure that out. ... If you are replacing the forestay, you can do this when you drop the unit for that. I'm assuming you're replacing it with another swaged forestay or are you using a Norseman or NavTec compression fitting? If a swaged eye, then you will have to disassemble the furler completely. If you are going that way, just upgrade to the MKIV. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Hi Jim, In order for the wire to unlay like that it will need to grow shorter, pin-to-pin, a slight amount. My forestay looked similar to that when I replaced the gang 5 years ago. It had two broken strands hiding under a Harken Mark I furler. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 10:02 AM 19/01/2014, you wrote: Russ, I think the wire is just coming unlaid. Looks like it may have been twisted against the lay somehow. I'd still replace it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 19 January 2014 09:07, Russ Melody mailto:russ...@telus.netruss...@telus.net wrote: Hi Dennis Peter, I would say when, not if, you replace that forestay. The gap showing in the lay of the wire in this pic would lead me to inspect for a broken strand (or two). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:18 AM 19/01/2014, you wrote: Peter, What caused the damage to the top of the extrusion? Hard to tell from the pic. Need to figure that out. ... If you are replacing the forestay, you can do this when you drop the unit for that. I'm assuming you're replacing it with another swaged forestay or are you using a Norseman or NavTec compression fitting? If a swaged eye, then you will have to disassemble the furler completely. If you are going that way, just upgrade to the MKIV. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.comhttp://www.cncphotoalbum.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.comCnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Thanks guys ... all great info and suggestions. I highly suspect (and so does the rigger that inspected the unit) that the previous owner wrapped the halyard on one or more occasion ... I admit to doing it once while alongside the 1st time I put the genoa up but the rigger figured that was a pretty old damage to the foil. I suspect it’s been wearing on / catching the forestay over time. My wire halyards don’t look too good either the jib halyard has a definite cork screw to it – so I’ll be replacing those as well. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII From: Jim Watts Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:02 AM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Russ, I think the wire is just coming unlaid. Looks like it may have been twisted against the lay somehow. I'd still replace it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 19 January 2014 09:07, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi Dennis Peter, I would say when, not if, you replace that forestay. The gap showing in the lay of the wire in this pic would lead me to inspect for a broken strand (or two). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:18 AM 19/01/2014, you wrote: Peter, What caused the damage to the top of the extrusion? Hard to tell from the pic. Need to figure that out. ... If you are replacing the forestay, you can do this when you drop the unit for that. I'm assuming you're replacing it with another swaged forestay or are you using a Norseman or NavTec compression fitting? If a swaged eye, then you will have to disassemble the furler completely. If you are going that way, just upgrade to the MKIV. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Peter, It looks like there's a block for an external halyard being held out of the way in the pic. I'd have a better idea if I'd climbed the rig myself but is it possible that this block rubbed the damage on the extrusion? Although not to the degree I see in your pic, Touche's masthead had a similar issue and result. I'm sending you pics off list to illustrate. Dennis C. From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: 1 CnC List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Thanks guys ... all great info and suggestions. I highly suspect (and so does the rigger that inspected the unit) that the previous owner wrapped the halyard on one or more occasion ... I admit to doing it once while alongside the 1st time I put the genoa up but the rigger figured that was a pretty old damage to the foil. I suspect it’s been wearing on / catching the forestay over time. My wire halyards don’t look too good either the jib halyard has a definite cork screw to it – so I’ll be replacing those as well. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII From: Jim Watts Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:02 AM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Russ, I think the wire is just coming unlaid. Looks like it may have been twisted against the lay somehow. I'd still replace it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 19 January 2014 09:07, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Hi Dennis Peter, I would say when, not if, you replace that forestay. The gap showing in the lay of the wire in this pic would lead me to inspect for a broken strand (or two). http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 08:18 AM 19/01/2014, you wrote: Peter, What caused the damage to the top of the extrusion? Hard to tell from the pic. Need to figure that out. ... If you are replacing the forestay, you can do this when you drop the unit for that. I'm assuming you're replacing it with another swaged forestay or are you using a Norseman or NavTec compression fitting? If a swaged eye, then you will have to disassemble the furler completely. If you are going that way, just upgrade to the MKIV. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Is that the one with the plastic foil? If so, I think you,re SOL. I had to completely replace mine on the J/80 with a whole new unit. I'll check my J/80 stuff tomorrow. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jan 18, 2014, at 16:25, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
No, aluminum foil. The Mark 1 was the one with the dreaded rollpins for the foils but only on the Unit 1 and above - the Unit 0 had screws. Thanks for taking a look Andy! From: Andrew Burton Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:35 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Is that the one with the plastic foil? If so, I think you,re SOL. I had to completely replace mine on the J/80 with a whole new unit. I'll check my J/80 stuff tomorrow. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jan 18, 2014, at 16:25, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Peter Fell wrote: Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII Peter, Try the URL http://www.harken.com/article.aspx?id=18799 There are a bunch of PDF files that you can download - manuals and parts lists Bill Caprice 1 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Mark 1 Unit 0 info here: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=61882 Post 8. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 18 January 2014 14:45, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: No, aluminum foil. The Mark 1 was the one with the dreaded rollpins for the foils but only on the Unit 1 and above - the Unit 0 had screws. Thanks for taking a look Andy! *From:* Andrew Burton a.burton.sai...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:35 PM *To:* Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Is that the one with the plastic foil? If so, I think you,re SOL. I had to completely replace mine on the J/80 with a whole new unit. I'll check my J/80 stuff tomorrow. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jan 18, 2014, at 16:25, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Peter I would think you could get the manual on the Harken site. but if you can't and no one offers, let me know and I can get mine from the boat the next time I go and check her John on Oxygen On Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:05:19 PM, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Mark 1 Unit 0 info here: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=61882 Post 8. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 18 January 2014 14:45, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: No, aluminum foil. The Mark 1 was the one with the dreaded rollpins for the foils but only on the Unit 1 and above - the Unit 0 had screws. Thanks for taking a look Andy! From: Andrew Burton Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:35 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Is that the one with the plastic foil? If so, I think you,re SOL. I had to completely replace mine on the J/80 with a whole new unit. I'll check my J/80 stuff tomorrow. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jan 18, 2014, at 16:25, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Thanks John and Jim Harken doesn’t have the Mark 1 stuff on the website. I’ve emailed them but no response on that question. They did confirm that there are NO parts for these units available anymore. From: John McKay Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Peter I would think you could get the manual on the Harken site. but if you can't and no one offers, let me know and I can get mine from the boat the next time I go and check her John on Oxygen On Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:05:19 PM, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Mark 1 Unit 0 info here: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=61882 Post 8. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 18 January 2014 14:45, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: No, aluminum foil. The Mark 1 was the one with the dreaded rollpins for the foils but only on the Unit 1 and above - the Unit 0 had screws. Thanks for taking a look Andy! From: Andrew Burton Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:35 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Is that the one with the plastic foil? If so, I think you,re SOL. I had to completely replace mine on the J/80 with a whole new unit. I'll check my J/80 stuff tomorrow. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jan 18, 2014, at 16:25, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Thanks John and Jim Harken doesn’t have the Mark 1 stuff on the their website. Jin, that parts list is the one I refer to in my original post it doesn’t appear to be complete. I’ve emailed Harken but no response on the documentation question. They did confirm that there are NO parts for these units available anymore. From: John McKay Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Peter I would think you could get the manual on the Harken site. but if you can't and no one offers, let me know and I can get mine from the boat the next time I go and check her John on Oxygen On Saturday, January 18, 2014 6:05:19 PM, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote: Mark 1 Unit 0 info here: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=61882 Post 8. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 18 January 2014 14:45, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: No, aluminum foil. The Mark 1 was the one with the dreaded rollpins for the foils but only on the Unit 1 and above - the Unit 0 had screws. Thanks for taking a look Andy! From: Andrew Burton Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:35 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Is that the one with the plastic foil? If so, I think you,re SOL. I had to completely replace mine on the J/80 with a whole new unit. I'll check my J/80 stuff tomorrow. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Jan 18, 2014, at 16:25, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0
Peter, I don't think my buddy and I have any parts for a Mark 1. I will check with him tomorrow. He may have something in his gold pile. We haven't worked on a Mark 1 in a long while. Last Mark 1 I worked on was basically an upgrade to the newer extrusions to get rid of the roll pins. As for the top cap, is the top of the extrusion riding on the barrel of the swage eye or on the wire? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Thanks Dennis Rides on the barrel of the swage. I wonder if I can trim this down? I didn’t think by looking at the info available online that it should ride on the forestay. I’m ordering a new genoa within the next two weeks so now’s the time to fix this. Here are some pictures: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/707/1lxd.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/836/pll3.jpg http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/571/fw5u.jpg That forestay needs to be replaced and currently there is no halyard restrainer either. Discussing those with a rigger right now. Of course I could just replace the furler as well I’ve gotten some info on new ones. I can get a Mark IV Unit 0 for under $1200. Toggle and restrainer and forestay would be additional to that. Or a Furlex for about $1600 that includes the restrainer and forestay. From: Dennis C. Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:22 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Peter, I don't think my buddy and I have any parts for a Mark 1. I will check with him tomorrow. He may have something in his gold pile. We haven't worked on a Mark 1 in a long while. Last Mark 1 I worked on was basically an upgrade to the newer extrusions to get rid of the roll pins. As for the top cap, is the top of the extrusion riding on the barrel of the swage eye or on the wire? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- From: Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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Peter, I replaced my furler last year and have several sections of foil (type that uses roll pins) laying on the dock in front of my boat. It is yours if you can get it from my boat to your boat. Frank Noragon S/V Cool Change CC LF38, S/N 001 Rose City Yacht Club Portland, Oregon From: Peter Fell Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 1:25 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Harken Furler Mark 1 Unit 0 Just wondering if anyone local has a manual and parts list for a Mark 1 Unit 0 furling unit that I could borrow and copy. Looking for parts too. Mine is missing a chunk out of the top of the uppermost foil + the top cap. So I’m looking for a foil piece, cap, possibly foil connector, etc. I’ve got a partial copy of the parts list – looks like might have been a couple versions of this unit. Peter Fell Sidney, BC CC 27 MkIII ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap (Rick Brass)
Rick, I'd like to contact you to discuss the Harken furler but am not sure how to do that. Jack Downey (dc...@sover.net) -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 90, Issue 55 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CnC-List digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Disconnecting forestay to troubleshoot furler (Stevan Plavsa) 2. Re: Harken furler for sale cheap (Dennis C.) 3. Re: Harken furler for sale cheap (Rick Brass) 4. Re: Rudder post sqeak - solved (Blair Clark) 5. Re: Rudder post sqeak - solved (Jim Reinardy) 6. Re: 1981 CC 30 MK1 engine re-power help (Curtis) 7. MORE QUESTIONS ON EDSON RUDDER INSTALL (Alex Giannelia) 8. Re: 1981 CC 30 MK1 engine re-power help (Russ Melody) 9. Re: Rudder post sqeak - solved (Blair Clark) 10. Re: MORE QUESTIONS ON EDSON RUDDER INSTALL (Ken Heaton) 11. Re: MORE QUESTIONS ON EDSON RUDDER INSTALL (Bill Connon) 12. Wilcox-Crittenden (now Thetford) HeadMate head (Robert Abbott) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:58:37 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Disconnecting forestay to troubleshoot furler Message-ID: 56d53295-6d71-4f2f-9acf-bc3ad7d48...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 You guys are awesome, thanks for all the replies! Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On 2013-07-16, at 5:50 PM, Graham Collins cnclistforw...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm assuming the 32 is a keel stepped mast, as the 35-3 is. In which case - don't stress about disconnecting the forestay. Absolutely use a halyard in place of it, with lots of tension, but it will stay up. I swapped out my forestay and furler with the mast up, no problems. I did loosen the backstay but did not play with the shrouds. Graham Collins Secret Plans CC 35-III #11 On 2013-07-16 2:26 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: Hi All, I have an ultrafurl 500, no doubt many CCs of this vintage have the same. I am having some trouble with it (sticking) and Heider from Ultrafurl (I believe he's the guy that designed these things) sent along the installation instructions as a guide on how to disassemble for a look. Well, it seems I can get the drum disconnected and raised up the forestay without disconnecting the forestay but if I want to remove it for a clean I will have to disconnect and use a halyard for backup. I've done this with the shrouds but there are two of those! I have two headsail halyards so I'm thinking to use both, attached to either the stem fitting or the toe rail and then tensioned pretty tight. Should I be loosening the tension on the rest of the rig when I do this? Any tips or warnings? Thanks, Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20130716/a7 a531ea/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:25:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap Message-ID: 1374020709.82466.yahoomail...@web121902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 It's more dependent on wire size and pin size than boat length.? Need to verify those dimensions.? You'll also need a new forestay. I suggest you verify the Mark version and download the installation instructions. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA From: Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:22 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap Im guessing that Harken furler wouldn't be able to be converted to fit a 30, correct??? Ron Wild Cheri STL From: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler
Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap
Rick Is worth a lot more than $500 if all parts in place and in like new condition. I sold a 10 year old Harken 00 for $750 last year and the furler for a 38 ft masthead boat is considerably more furler than that. Do your friend a favour and sell it for $1000 since it costs a lot more than that new Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap The talk about Ultrafurl and Harken furlers on the list reminded me of something I'd been asked to do: A friend of mine had a Catalina 38 with an old Hood furler for which parts were no longer available. He bought himself a Harken furler (model unknown) with 50+ feet of luff extrusion to install on his boat, and then the boat was totaled in Hurricane Irene a couple of years ago. He still has the furler in the overhead of his garage, and asked if I know anyone who might want to buy the furler. I believe he only wants $400 or $500 for it. The extrusions are in 6 foot sections, so the furler should be shippable by UPS at a fairly reasonable cost. If anyone is interested in talking to my friend, please let me know off list and I will put you in contact with each other. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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I don't even really need it and I am pretty tempted at $400. Joe Della Barba -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap Rick Is worth a lot more than $500 if all parts in place and in like new condition. I sold a 10 year old Harken 00 for $750 last year and the furler for a 38 ft masthead boat is considerably more furler than that. Do your friend a favour and sell it for $1000 since it costs a lot more than that new Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap The talk about Ultrafurl and Harken furlers on the list reminded me of something I'd been asked to do: A friend of mine had a Catalina 38 with an old Hood furler for which parts were no longer available. He bought himself a Harken furler (model unknown) with 50+ feet of luff extrusion to install on his boat, and then the boat was totaled in Hurricane Irene a couple of years ago. He still has the furler in the overhead of his garage, and asked if I know anyone who might want to buy the furler. I believe he only wants $400 or $500 for it. The extrusions are in 6 foot sections, so the furler should be shippable by UPS at a fairly reasonable cost. If anyone is interested in talking to my friend, please let me know off list and I will put you in contact with each other. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap
You should be. A new Harken Unit 1 Mk IV sells for over $2300. Dennis C. From: Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:45 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap I don't even really need it and I am pretty tempted at $400. Joe Della Barba -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap Rick Is worth a lot more than $500 if all parts in place and in like new condition. I sold a 10 year old Harken 00 for $750 last year and the furler for a 38 ft masthead boat is considerably more furler than that. Do your friend a favour and sell it for $1000 since it costs a lot more than that new Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap The talk about Ultrafurl and Harken furlers on the list reminded me of something I'd been asked to do: A friend of mine had a Catalina 38 with an old Hood furler for which parts were no longer available. He bought himself a Harken furler (model unknown) with 50+ feet of luff extrusion to install on his boat, and then the boat was totaled in Hurricane Irene a couple of years ago. He still has the furler in the overhead of his garage, and asked if I know anyone who might want to buy the furler. I believe he only wants $400 or $500 for it. The extrusions are in 6 foot sections, so the furler should be shippable by UPS at a fairly reasonable cost. If anyone is interested in talking to my friend, please let me know off list and I will put you in contact with each other. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap
Im guessing that Harken furler wouldn't be able to be converted to fit a 30, correct??? Ron Wild Cheri STL From: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap You should be. A new Harken Unit 1 Mk IV sells for over $2300. Dennis C. From: Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:45 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap I don't even really need it and I am pretty tempted at $400. Joe Della Barba -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap Rick Is worth a lot more than $500 if all parts in place and in like new condition. I sold a 10 year old Harken 00 for $750 last year and the furler for a 38 ft masthead boat is considerably more furler than that. Do your friend a favour and sell it for $1000 since it costs a lot more than that new Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap The talk about Ultrafurl and Harken furlers on the list reminded me of something I'd been asked to do: A friend of mine had a Catalina 38 with an old Hood furler for which parts were no longer available. He bought himself a Harken furler (model unknown) with 50+ feet of luff extrusion to install on his boat, and then the boat was totaled in Hurricane Irene a couple of years ago. He still has the furler in the overhead of his garage, and asked if I know anyone who might want to buy the furler. I believe he only wants $400 or $500 for it. The extrusions are in 6 foot sections, so the furler should be shippable by UPS at a fairly reasonable cost. If anyone is interested in talking to my friend, please let me know off list and I will put you in contact with each other. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap
Ron, I have that exact unit on my 30-2, so it would fit. I think you would just need to use the right number of luff sections and cut the last one to length. Jim Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Ronald B. Frerker rbfrer...@yahoo.com wrote: Im guessing that Harken furler wouldn't be able to be converted to fit a 30, correct??? Ron Wild Cheri STL From: Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap You should be. A new Harken Unit 1 Mk IV sells for over $2300. Dennis C. From: Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:45 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap I don't even really need it and I am pretty tempted at $400. Joe Della Barba -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:19 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap Rick Is worth a lot more than $500 if all parts in place and in like new condition. I sold a 10 year old Harken 00 for $750 last year and the furler for a 38 ft masthead boat is considerably more furler than that. Do your friend a favour and sell it for $1000 since it costs a lot more than that new Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap The talk about Ultrafurl and Harken furlers on the list reminded me of something I'd been asked to do: A friend of mine had a Catalina 38 with an old Hood furler for which parts were no longer available. He bought himself a Harken furler (model unknown) with 50+ feet of luff extrusion to install on his boat, and then the boat was totaled in Hurricane Irene a couple of years ago. He still has the furler in the overhead of his garage, and asked if I know anyone who might want to buy the furler. I believe he only wants $400 or $500 for it. The extrusions are in 6 foot sections, so the furler should be shippable by UPS at a fairly reasonable cost. If anyone is interested in talking to my friend, please let me know off list and I will put you in contact with each other. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap
My guess is that a 30 uses a smaller diameter headstay than a 38 - but then my CC 25 uses a larger diameter wire for headstay and shrouds than a friends Hunter 33, so your guess is as good as mine. If your wire is smaller than the diameter for which the existing bearing strips are intended, you should buy new bearing strips. The furler may be a little heavier duty that what Harken currently recommends for a 30 ft boat, but it should work fine. You would obviously not need to use all 50+ ft of the available luff extrusions. Rick From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. Frerker Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap Im guessing that Harken furler wouldn't be able to be converted to fit a 30, correct??? Ron Wild Cheri STL ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Harken furler for sale cheap
The talk about Ultrafurl and Harken furlers on the list reminded me of something I'd been asked to do: A friend of mine had a Catalina 38 with an old Hood furler for which parts were no longer available. He bought himself a Harken furler (model unknown) with 50+ feet of luff extrusion to install on his boat, and then the boat was totaled in Hurricane Irene a couple of years ago. He still has the furler in the overhead of his garage, and asked if I know anyone who might want to buy the furler. I believe he only wants $400 or $500 for it. The extrusions are in 6 foot sections, so the furler should be shippable by UPS at a fairly reasonable cost. If anyone is interested in talking to my friend, please let me know off list and I will put you in contact with each other. Rick Brass Washington, NC ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
