RE: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Geoff Howard]

- Make sure you xml declaration in helloworld.xml is
 (in your email it reads: , missing the ending ? - hopefully that
was just a typo.

- Try adding to your xsl: 




Doing those two things, it works fine.  If that
doesn't fix it, I'd reccomend:
- Add the error page back in to your stripped down
pipeline.
- stop tomcat, while it's down delete your cache-dir
(probably under $TOMCAT_HOME/work - the default).
- monitor your access.log, and on startup core.log to
confirm that things are starting and processing
correctly without errors. (I often do tail -f
access.log while testing pages in a browser in another
window).

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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Sonny Sukumar]

Man, Steven, thanks for pointing that out--the Hello World example works now.  The 
really weird thing is that I *did* check that quite a few times and fixed the missing 
? mark before.  However, I had made a backup copy of the helloworld.xml file so that I 
could delete my whole cocoon directory and reinstall cocoon from scratch (I thought I 
might have messed up the installation somehow).  So I guess the backed up 
helloworld.xml file still had the missing ? and that's been a major culprit here. 


Also weird: Remember that I kept getting the error about cocoon/helloworld being an 
unknown URI?  That error has mysteriously gone away...could it have been cleaning out 
the $TOMCAT_HOME/work directory that did it??

In any case, the example finally works!! Hooraaay!!!  And it was supposed to be a 
trivial example too. :-)

Go get some sleep--you have earned it. :-)

Thanks!

Sonny
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>Sonny Sukumar wrote:
>
> > I cleared out error.log and accessed
> > http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld again and there's no errors
> > that are logged.  The page just comes up blank.  When I click on View
> > Source, the document source is COMPLETELY empty.  Should I be using
> > something other than ?  I just copied the example
> > straight from the book.
>
>Damn, my bad. So finally, I copied your code into files and fed that 
>through Cocoon. Hm...  org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: a pseudo attribute 
>name is expected on my error page and in my logs...
>
>What could this be...? Load up your helloworld.xml in an XML editor, 
>press validate and tada, typo found:
>
>
>^
>
>Yup, that stupid - didn't had anything to do with Cocoon. Do you have 
>your error page up & running now? The error message isn't particularly 
>helpful (plain wrong in this case), but at least you get a feeling where 
>to look at.
>
>OK now?
>
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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

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Sonny Sukumar wrote:

 > I cleared out error.log and accessed
 > http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld again and there's no errors
 > that are logged.  The page just comes up blank.  When I click on View
 > Source, the document source is COMPLETELY empty.  Should I be using
 > something other than ?  I just copied the example
 > straight from the book.

Damn, my bad. So finally, I copied your code into files and fed that 
through Cocoon. Hm...  org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: a pseudo attribute 
name is expected on my error page and in my logs...

What could this be...? Load up your helloworld.xml in an XML editor, 
press validate and tada, typo found:


^

Yup, that stupid - didn't had anything to do with Cocoon. Do you have 
your error page up & running now? The error message isn't particularly 
helpful (plain wrong in this case), but at least you get a feeling where 
to look at.

OK now?


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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Sonny Sukumar]

I cleared out error.log and accessed http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld again and 
there's no errors that are logged.  The page just comes up blank.  When I click on 
View Source, the document source is COMPLETELY empty.  Should I be using something 
other than ?  I just copied the example straight from the book.

--- Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sonny Sukumar wrote:
>
> > HOWEVER: Cocoon now recognizes the URI when I navigate to
> > http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld, but it is nothing but a
> > blank page.  This started happening after switching the 
> > tag, and this behavior is still there after deleting the contents of
> > $TOMCAT_HOME/work.  I guess this is a step forward though.
> >
> > Any idea why I could be getting a blank page?  If not, then I guess
> > I'll have try that error handling stuff eh?  I'm scared. :-/
>
>You shouldn't ;-)
>
>Two choices now: dig in the log files 
>($COCOON_HOME/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) or have that error handling stuff 
>set up.
>
>But I'm off to bed soon now :-)
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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Steven Noels]

Sonny Sukumar wrote:

 > HOWEVER: Cocoon now recognizes the URI when I navigate to
 > http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld, but it is nothing but a
 > blank page.  This started happening after switching the 
 > tag, and this behavior is still there after deleting the contents of
 > $TOMCAT_HOME/work.  I guess this is a step forward though.
 >
 > Any idea why I could be getting a blank page?  If not, then I guess
 > I'll have try that error handling stuff eh?  I'm scared. :-/

You shouldn't ;-)

Two choices now: dig in the log files 
($COCOON_HOME/WEB-INF/logs/error.log) or have that error handling stuff 
set up.

But I'm off to bed soon now :-)


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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Sonny Sukumar]

No huuray. :-(  To summarize, the following 2 things you suggested didn't work out:

-Changing the  being used in cocoon.xconf
-Deleting all contents of the $TOMCAT_HOME/work

HOWEVER: Cocoon now recognizes the URI when I navigate to 
http://localhost:8080/cocoon/helloworld, but it is nothing but a blank page.  This 
started happening after switching the  tag, and this behavior is still there 
after deleting the contents of $TOMCAT_HOME/work.  I guess this is a step forward 
though.

Any idea why I could be getting a blank page?  If not, then I guess I'll have try that 
error handling stuff eh?  I'm scared. :-/

Sonny
--- Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sonny Sukumar wrote:
>
> > I switched "treeprocessor" by commenting out one  tag and
> > uncommenting the other one in cocoon.xconf.
>
>no huuray however?
>
> > Btw, what is stored in Tomcat's work directory?  This might sound
> > like a dumb question to you, but I'm still on Hello World. :-)
>
>using the (default) compiled sitemap processor, the java classes that 
>implement your sitemap (which are generated using xslt from your 
>sitemap.xmap - don't ask ;-) are created there and compiled
>
>many people have experienced already that for some mysterious reasons, 
>getting rid of these java sources/compiled classes sometimes does help
>
> > Likewise, I haven't done anything with error handling, so if you feel
> > this is something important that I should do here and now to diagnose
> > the problem, I humbly ask for a small explanation so I can understand
> > what's going on.  For example, what XML source does the
> > error2html.xsl file in your sample code operate on?
>
>not exactly a 'source', but a built-in error generator that provides the 
>error2html.xsl stylesheet with an XML representation of the 
>exception/stacktrace
>
> > Lastly, I know for a fact I'm editing sitemap.xmap and not the
> > sitemap.xmap.bak file I created to simply backup the original
> > sitemap.xmap file before I started playing around with it.  But it is
> > good of you to point out. :-)
>
>I could as well try ;-)
>
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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

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Sonny Sukumar wrote:

 > I switched "treeprocessor" by commenting out one  tag and
 > uncommenting the other one in cocoon.xconf.

no huuray however?

 > Btw, what is stored in Tomcat's work directory?  This might sound
 > like a dumb question to you, but I'm still on Hello World. :-)

using the (default) compiled sitemap processor, the java classes that 
implement your sitemap (which are generated using xslt from your 
sitemap.xmap - don't ask ;-) are created there and compiled

many people have experienced already that for some mysterious reasons, 
getting rid of these java sources/compiled classes sometimes does help

 > Likewise, I haven't done anything with error handling, so if you feel
 > this is something important that I should do here and now to diagnose
 > the problem, I humbly ask for a small explanation so I can understand
 > what's going on.  For example, what XML source does the
 > error2html.xsl file in your sample code operate on?

not exactly a 'source', but a built-in error generator that provides the 
error2html.xsl stylesheet with an XML representation of the 
exception/stacktrace

 > Lastly, I know for a fact I'm editing sitemap.xmap and not the
 > sitemap.xmap.bak file I created to simply backup the original
 > sitemap.xmap file before I started playing around with it.  But it is
 > good of you to point out. :-)

I could as well try ;-)


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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Sonny Sukumar]

I switched "treeprocessor" by commenting out one  tag and uncommenting the 
other one in cocoon.xconf.

Btw, what is stored in Tomcat's work directory?  This might sound like a dumb question 
to you, but I'm still on Hello World. :-)

Likewise, I haven't done anything with error handling, so if you feel this is 
something important that I should do here and now to diagnose the problem, I humbly 
ask for a small explanation so I can understand what's going on.  For example, what 
XML source does the error2html.xsl file in your sample code operate on?

Lastly, I know for a fact I'm editing sitemap.xmap and not the sitemap.xmap.bak file I 
created to simply backup the original sitemap.xmap file before I started playing 
around with it.  But it is good of you to point out. :-)

Sonny

--- Steven Noels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sonny Sukumar wrote:
>
> > The problem *is* a Cocoon problem.  The Tomcat servlet engine works
> > just fine and Cocoon runs on it, but I can't get this Hello World
> > example to work.  I also don't understand why the other Cocoon pages
> > still come up after I deleted ALL the other stuff inside the
> >  tag other than my  for the Hello World
> > example that generates from helloworld.xml, transforms with
> > helloworld2html.xsl and serializes the output.
> >
> > Does it make sense now?  If I need to clarify anything at all or
> > paste some things from my first email, please let me know and I will
> > gladly do so.
>
>It does make sense and indeed it seems like your changed sitemap isn't 
>loaded. Did you clean out the 'work' directory of Tomcat when restarting 
>- not that this should be the problem, but one never knows.
>
>Also, adding a error-handling section in your pipeline configuration 
>might provide you with some useful info:
>
>   ...
>   
> 
> 
>   
> 
>
>Another idea: switching to the (interpreting instead of compiling) 
>treeprocessor, by swapping it with the normal sitemap engine configation 
>with
> 
>
>Oh, BTW, it's not that you are editing the wrong sitemap file (.bak)?
>
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RE: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Sonny Sukumar]

On a fresh Tomcat (4.1.12) installation I copied the file cocoon.war (this is Cocoon 
2.0.3) into the $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps directory.  I then started Tomcat using 
$TOMCAT_HOME/bin/startup.sh, navigated to http://localhost:8080/cocoon and Tomcat 
expanded cocoon.war into $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon, started the Cocoon servlet, and 
displayed the Cocoon intro page.

As I said before, to do this Hello World example, I modified the  
section of sitemap.xmap to just contain the  for the Hello World 
example. Actually, first I tried just adding the Hello World pipeline...when that 
didn't work I deleted the rest.  It still doesn't work.  And I'm not sure how Tomcat 
could be running some other Cocoon instance either.  But I am obviously missing 
something somewhere.

And thanks for the info on the parent-child sitemaps..I guess I'll get to that later, 
once I get this to work. :-)

--- "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I also don't understand why the other Cocoon pages still come up after I
>deleted ALL the other stuff > inside the  tag other than my
> for the Hello World example that 
>> generates from helloworld.xml, transforms with helloworld2html.xsl and
>serializes the output.
>
>That tends to suggest that the copy of Cocoon you are modifying isn't the
>same one that Tomcat is running...  How are you deploying Cocoon (expanding
>the EAR manually and copying?)? 
>
>BTW, to answer another question you had earlier, the reason you see
>sitemap.xconf in multiple directories is that a parent sitemap can mount
>sub-sitemaps.  It's a parent child relationship from the main sitemap...
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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

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Sonny Sukumar wrote:

 > The problem *is* a Cocoon problem.  The Tomcat servlet engine works
 > just fine and Cocoon runs on it, but I can't get this Hello World
 > example to work.  I also don't understand why the other Cocoon pages
 > still come up after I deleted ALL the other stuff inside the
 >  tag other than my  for the Hello World
 > example that generates from helloworld.xml, transforms with
 > helloworld2html.xsl and serializes the output.
 >
 > Does it make sense now?  If I need to clarify anything at all or
 > paste some things from my first email, please let me know and I will
 > gladly do so.

It does make sense and indeed it seems like your changed sitemap isn't 
loaded. Did you clean out the 'work' directory of Tomcat when restarting 
- not that this should be the problem, but one never knows.

Also, adding a error-handling section in your pipeline configuration 
might provide you with some useful info:

   ...
   
 
 
   
 

Another idea: switching to the (interpreting instead of compiling) 
treeprocessor, by swapping it with the normal sitemap engine configation 
with


Oh, BTW, it's not that you are editing the wrong sitemap file (.bak)?


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RE: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

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> I also don't understand why the other Cocoon pages still come up after I
deleted ALL the other stuff > inside the  tag other than my
 for the Hello World example that 
> generates from helloworld.xml, transforms with helloworld2html.xsl and
serializes the output.

That tends to suggest that the copy of Cocoon you are modifying isn't the
same one that Tomcat is running...  How are you deploying Cocoon (expanding
the EAR manually and copying?)? 

BTW, to answer another question you had earlier, the reason you see
sitemap.xconf in multiple directories is that a parent sitemap can mount
sub-sitemaps.  It's a parent child relationship from the main sitemap...

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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

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Sure, here's a quick copy and paste of $COCOON_HOME (same thing as 
$TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon):

cocoon.xconf.moved   i18n resources sitemap.xmap.bak  tutorial
docs logicsheets  samples   stylesheets   WEB-INF
documentationMETA-INF searchsub   welcome
helloworld2html.xsl  mountsitebuilder   sunspotdemo
helloworld.xml   protectedsitemap.xmap  templates

The problem *is* a Cocoon problem.  The Tomcat servlet engine works just fine and 
Cocoon runs on it, but I can't get this Hello World example to work.  I also don't 
understand why the other Cocoon pages still come up after I deleted ALL the other 
stuff inside the  tag other than my  for the Hello World 
example that generates from helloworld.xml, transforms with helloworld2html.xsl and 
serializes the output.

Does it make sense now?  If I need to clarify anything at all or paste some things 
from my first email, please let me know and I will gladly do so.

Thanks again,

Sonny
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>
> > If anyone can help me out with my original Hello World question, I
> > would REALLY appreciate it..I want to get this to work sooo much.
>
>I have trouble understanding your problem, too. Could you give us a 
>dirlisting of $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon - assuming you have deployed 
>Cocoon over there?
>
>The error message you get is a Tomcat one, I guess, so maybe the Cocoon 
>context isn't properly set up.
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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

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Sonny Sukumar wrote:

 > If anyone can help me out with my original Hello World question, I
 > would REALLY appreciate it..I want to get this to work sooo much.

I have trouble understanding your problem, too. Could you give us a 
dirlisting of $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon - assuming you have deployed 
Cocoon over there?

The error message you get is a Tomcat one, I guess, so maybe the Cocoon 
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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

[Sonny Sukumar]

Hi,

I should have mentioned that sitemap.xmap is in $COCOON_HOME, where it is supposed to 
be from what I've read.  I tried your suggestion, and got the same error.

Btw, can anyone tell me why there are MULTIPLE sitemap.xmap files in $COCOON_HOME 
subdirectories?  I thought there was only supposed to be the one in $COCOON_HOME.

If anyone can help me out with my original Hello World question, I would REALLY 
appreciate it..I want to get this to work sooo much.

Thanks again. :-)

Sonny

--- Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Monday 07 October 2002 19:24, Sonny Sukumar wrote:
>
>The error: "The requested URI "/cocoon/helloworld" was not found."
>
>Now, the pipeline config info in sitemap.xmap:

Anyway, try access with 
cocoon/helloworld/helloworld
instead. You'll need that if your sitemap is a dir of its own.

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Re: Stuck on Hello World, with non-FAQ Problem

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On Monday 07 October 2002 19:24, Sonny Sukumar wrote:

> The error: "The requested URI "/cocoon/helloworld" was not found."
>
> Now, the pipeline config info in sitemap.xmap:

I could have wild guess at this since I just was confused looking at a 
helloworld example myself. But of course, your problem could be 
entirely different from mine.

Anyway, try access with 
cocoon/helloworld/helloworld
instead. You'll need that if your sitemap is a dir of its own.

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