Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread mike
Godmode doesn't give a user elevated status..all it does is put a list of
all the controls in one place...if your user doesn't have access to these
before a godmode folder is created, they don't have access after either.

Yes, during the security conferences the playing field and motivations are
leveled...to the mac lovers this is 'unfair'.  You might try reading the
breakdowns of the security conferences to see what actually goes on.  They
don't surround the macs with candles and take away it's magic mojo for a day
so they can get through their defenses, there are weaknesses and security
issues as on any os.  If we don't agree that human beings write these lines
of code, then so be it.  We'll agree to disagree.


On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Art Clemons  wrote:

> On 01/08/2010 01:22 AM, mike wrote:
> > But the point is they are all insecure, windows isn't more or less secure
> > than say OS X, it just appears that way because OS X isn't attacked.
>  Which
> > of course is security by obscurity, but that wasn't what we are talking
> > about.
>
> I'm not sure that OS X is just more secure by obscurity.  Yes, during
> the hacker conferences, Macs get pwned but if life were really that
> simple for most hackers, nobody would be on the internet or exchanging
> files. Consider for example the recently "discovered" "God" mode on
> Windows 7, and the sad part is that a Microsoft spokes-individual
> actually admitted that there were more.  Those are all security holes if
> not implemented properly.  I can't think of a comparable problem on Macs
> and Linux & BSDs both are constantly upgrading because of security
> risks, but the only god mode for them is a silly admin.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread Art Clemons
On 01/08/2010 01:22 AM, mike wrote:
> But the point is they are all insecure, windows isn't more or less secure
> than say OS X, it just appears that way because OS X isn't attacked.  Which
> of course is security by obscurity, but that wasn't what we are talking
> about.

I'm not sure that OS X is just more secure by obscurity.  Yes, during
the hacker conferences, Macs get pwned but if life were really that
simple for most hackers, nobody would be on the internet or exchanging
files. Consider for example the recently "discovered" "God" mode on
Windows 7, and the sad part is that a Microsoft spokes-individual
actually admitted that there were more.  Those are all security holes if
not implemented properly.  I can't think of a comparable problem on Macs
and Linux & BSDs both are constantly upgrading because of security
risks, but the only god mode for them is a silly admin.

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Re: [CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys

2010-01-07 Thread mike
I'm sure there have been others...but the last true sci fi movie I can think
of was Gatica.  As far acting/writing went, I'd put DS9 up there with the
best...nothing like Hawk commanding a base station.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Constance Warner  wrote:

>
>
> And you can always secretly pretend that your flip-phone is a Communicator,
> if your favorite Star Trek is Star Trek Classic.  (Which mine is; it's
> dated, of course, but Classic had some of the best writing and acting
> available at the time, which is more than some of the later series and
> movies can say.  Especially the latest Star Trek movie, which doesn't even
> PRETEND to be SCIENCE fiction.  It turns out that the current producers have
> made a conscious decision to keep science per se out of the movies and
> books.  Hand-waving is so much more fun!)
>
> --Constance Warner
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread mike
But the point is they are all insecure, windows isn't more or less secure
than say OS X, it just appears that way because OS X isn't attacked.  Which
of course is security by obscurity, but that wasn't what we are talking
about.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:59 PM, mike  wrote:
>
> > Your logic wrong because locks on os's are similar...one doesn't have
> > crappy
> > locks, one just gets stolen more.
> >
> > No it's just easier to steal because it is plentiful and insecure. If one
> gives you a hard time you move on to the next one.
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:59 PM, mike  wrote:

> Your logic wrong because locks on os's are similar...one doesn't have
> crappy
> locks, one just gets stolen more.
>
> No it's just easier to steal because it is plentiful and insecure. If one
gives you a hard time you move on to the next one.

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Re: [CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys

2010-01-07 Thread Constance Warner
Odd, isn't it, those teeny tiny cellphones?  I just finished watching  
an episode of "The Mentalist"--which has some of the best writing on  
network TV--in which the big biker gang members, in full biker  
regalia and built like brick outhouses, are using dainty little  
cellphones to conduct their biker-gang criminal enterprises.  (The TV  
audience is expected to accept this as realistic and true-to-life.)


As a PRACTICAL matter, a small cellphone fits more easily into a  
pocket, especially if you're wearing snug bluejeans.  A small  
cellphone also doesn't make you look geeky--you don't have to have  
one of those dorky cellphone cases attached to your belt to  
conveniently carry your cellphone (as you probably did in cellphone  
prehistory, in the 1990's).  And these days, microminiature gadgets  
of all kinds are status symbols, in part because the latest model of  
anything is likely to be smaller and to have more functions--and  
possibly better design.


And you can always secretly pretend that your flip-phone is a  
Communicator, if your favorite Star Trek is Star Trek Classic.   
(Which mine is; it's dated, of course, but Classic had some of the  
best writing and acting available at the time, which is more than  
some of the later series and movies can say.  Especially the latest  
Star Trek movie, which doesn't even PRETEND to be SCIENCE fiction.   
It turns out that the current producers have made a conscious  
decision to keep science per se out of the movies and books.  Hand- 
waving is so much more fun!)


--Constance Warner

--Constance Warner

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  Anyone remember the Princess Phone?  Remember how guys would have
nothing to do with one of those.  Guys would rather walk three blocks
to a pay phone back in the day if their only other choice was to use a
Princess Phone.  Their problem?  It was a size thing.  No "real" guy
was going to use a small little phone for anything other than throwing
one across a room.  These days, guys are obsessed with getting the
teeniest, tiniest, most mini-demi Princessy Phone they can get their
manicured hands on.  Just an observation.  So what happened?

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Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys (& gal) Show

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
In my line of work I also am given such choices.  If I determine I 
want to be a pastor of such and such a congregation  will even be 
told where I am going to live (A provided parsonage)


Availability of services and type was never a given option.  You take 
what you are given.  NO ifs ands or buts.


Thankfully about 15 years ago the small dish satellite became 
available.  Otherwise it was what was on the antenna and what the 
rotor cold find.


More and more options are being given to those in rural areas.  DSL 
is now offered in the small town I lived in.  Only other option for 
high speed was satellite.


The biggest difference I see is the size of the company serving the 
area.  Large tier companies are not really interested in smaller low 
tier areas.  Many of the smaller coop phone companies are now giving 
their customers more options than the large guys are.


Bigger is not always better.

Stewart



I don't determine quality of service available--neither do you.
Providers determine that. They also decide where and what kinds of
services they offer. As long as companies decide that "nobody lives
here" and don't provide service for us, we're stuck with the minimum.
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Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys (& gal) Show

2010-01-07 Thread b_s-wilk

Well, they could talk about technologies that aren't widely available
to the general public.  I'd be happy to discuss high bandwidth
solutions...That's not exactly their mission, though.  It's a fact
that they aren't going to discuss what I offer.  It's way too
expensive for anyone but big business and government to attempt.

...snip...

Betty and others will say that I'm responsible for this.  As the
phone company.  But I'm not.  YOU determine the quality of service
that you get.




I don't determine quality of service available--neither do you.
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services they offer. As long as companies decide that "nobody lives
here" and don't provide service for us, we're stuck with the minimum.
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Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:50 PM, tjpa  wrote:

> Current version of PS is 11. Why are you using such old versions?

  That is not pertinent to the issue at hand.  Don't give this guy
crap.  Maybe he has lost his job or something and simply cannot afford
the newest release.  Maybe he has no need for the latest.  If he is
smart enough to be on this list, then he is smart enough to determine
his computing needs as based upon the ability to pay for them.  Do you
suggest that he go out and buy the latest, install it and still not be
able to get it to work?  No, he needs to solve the current problem
before anything else.

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[CGUYS] Phones and guys, even Computer Guys

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
  Anyone remember the Princess Phone?  Remember how guys would have
nothing to do with one of those.  Guys would rather walk three blocks
to a pay phone back in the day if their only other choice was to use a
Princess Phone.  Their problem?  It was a size thing.  No "real" guy
was going to use a small little phone for anything other than throwing
one across a room.  These days, guys are obsessed with getting the
teeniest, tiniest, most mini-demi Princessy Phone they can get their
manicured hands on.  Just an observation.  So what happened?

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread mike
Your logic wrong because locks on os's are similar...one doesn't have crappy
locks, one just gets stolen more.

On Jan 7, 2010 5:56 PM, "John Duncan Yoyo"  wrote:

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:41 PM, mike  wrote: > Exploitable
code is in EVERY singl...
> Dammm right it is their problem whether it is Apple or M$.

Would you buy a car that could be stolen with a screw driver because the
locks are crummy?  Would you buy a new car that required you to drive to a
locksmith and replace all the locks with ones that work?  I don't think so.
 If the car is built to be stolen no one would buy it until the locks
worked and the security was upgraded.  Cars now come with alarms and more
secure keys and are less frequently stolen.  A software client should demand
no less.

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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:41 PM, mike  wrote:

> Exploitable code is in EVERY single OS...EVERY single one.  So is it MS's
> fault someone exploits it?  I'm asking, not giving my answer. If you own a
> honda which is high on the theft list, should honda be buying better/more
> security for all their cars sold?  Does the responsibility of a the buyer
> of
> the product change not because one car is more easily stolen, but because
> one is simply stolen more?  I've never heard the owner of a high theft
> vehicle blame the maker of the vehicle..
>
> Dammm right it is their problem whether it is Apple or M$.

Would you buy a car that could be stolen with a screw driver because the
locks are crummy?  Would you buy a new car that required you to drive to a
locksmith and replace all the locks with ones that work?  I don't think so.
  If the car is built to be stolen no one would buy it until the locks
worked and the security was upgraded.  Cars now come with alarms and more
secure keys and are less frequently stolen.  A software client should demand
no less.

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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:37 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:
>
>> The problem isn't on our end. The problem is that either the vendors don't
>> use USPS or refuse to ship to the VI based on a set of rules someone on
>> top
>> arbitrarily set, usually based on rules copied from other companies!
>>
>
> I think they avoid USPS because it is unreliable and doesn't take inquiries
> about lost mail seriously.
>
> Last year they lost a registered letter I sent. Their inquiry number had
> very long hold times and clueless employees. Their standard reply was "we
> don't know, we'll call you back." But they never would call back. I
> eventually gave up on them and had to pay late fees. USPS could care less.
>
> I worked my way through school in the university mail rooms.  One of the
truisms from the post office was the fastest way to lose something in the
mail was to certify it or register it.  The special handling required tends
to send things astray and it would almost always slow things down.

The modern tracking at the PO is done on their website and you will probably
find out as much as the PO does.
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread mike
Exploitable code is in EVERY single OS...EVERY single one.  So is it MS's
fault someone exploits it?  I'm asking, not giving my answer. If you own a
honda which is high on the theft list, should honda be buying better/more
security for all their cars sold?  Does the responsibility of a the buyer of
the product change not because one car is more easily stolen, but because
one is simply stolen more?  I've never heard the owner of a high theft
vehicle blame the maker of the vehicle..

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:21 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, tjpa  wrote:
>
> The real problem is that they should have produced an antivirus long ago as
> a free patch to make up for deficiencies in their product.  We should never
> have had to pay for this in the first place since it should be on the
> manufacturer to repair faults in their own products.
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:23 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Tony B wrote:
>
>> This isn't the free rootkit scanner we've been using for years? I
>> admit, it's been over a year since I ran it last. And now I see at
>> this link it won't work on any newer systems.
>>
>
> Isn't this the thing about M$ strong-arming the anti-virus vendors out of
> the business so they can take it over?
>
> First they build a defective OS that needs lots of anti-virus help, then
> they sell the anti-virus help separately. They used to call this the fox
> guarding the hen house.
>
>
The real problem is that they should have produced an antivirus long ago as
a free patch to make up for deficiencies in their product.  We should never
have had to pay for this in the first place since it should be on the
manufacturer to repair faults in their own products.
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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:15 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Glad to hear that you have found a way to solve the problem.


And now you have discovered a solution to an important need and have a  
new business opportunity.



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Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Bill L'Hommedieu wrote:
I'm running OS 10.4.11 . When I open photoshop files 8 crashes on  
opening. Dropped back to 7 and the same thing happens. 6 opened the  
file but another problem showed up: I now can't access my scanner   
(Epson Perfection 1660) to import new pics. I've cleaned out the 7  
and 8 versions and reinstalled but nothing changed.


Not enough information. What hardware are you using. Especially what  
processor?


Current version of PS is 11. Why are you using such old versions?

Can you open it to a blank window and create a file? Can you save and  
reopen that file?



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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
Where as I do not try and use it that much, keep my conversations  
short etc. and I remember stuff going way back.  (Like an elephant)


Or you think you are remembering stuff, but are actually just  
hallucinating.



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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:

Secondly who still has VCR's hooked up to their system anyway?


I see you are getting closer to my point.


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Re: [CGUYS] Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! Finance

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
 wrote:

> I am not worried about them making money.  I just wish they would stop
> strong arming everyone else.

  Oh, I know you are not worried about their financial status any more
than I am.  I was just making a comment.


> Before you know it we will need to get a license for our Blue Ray players
> and pay each time I view a movie we have bought.

  Stop giving them ideas!

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Bill L'Hommedieu  wrote:

> I'm running OS 10.4.11 . When I open photoshop files 8 crashes on opening.
> Dropped back to 7 and the same thing happens. 6 opened the file but another
> problem showed up: I now can't access my scanner  (Epson Perfection 1660) to
> import new pics. I've cleaned out the 7 and 8 versions and reinstalled but
> nothing changed.

  I would suspect that there is some corrupted file that is causing
you grief, and that file is not being overwritten when you do a
reinstall.  Photoshop places a SLEW of files on your hard drive, in
the system library and in your user library, and who knows where else.
 Does the install disc come with an uninstall option?  I just do not
remember.  Perhaps that is how you removed those versions in the first
place?

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Re: [CGUYS] Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! Finance

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I am not worried about them making money.  I just wish they would 
stop strong arming everyone else.


Before you know it we will need to get a license for our Blue Ray 
players and pay each time I view a movie we have bought.


Stewart


At 05:07 PM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

  Stewart, they are making a ton of money.  Nothing to fret about in
that regard.  When the ground troops for the Hollywood moguls come to
Washington to cry about their terrible losses due to pirating, they
always come in their private corporate jets and take limos to the
Hill.

  The reason that they crank out schlock is because, for the most
part, moviegoers will readily consume that schlock.  As I have been
saying in another thread, real quality, up and down the line, is not a
priority with most consumers.  They wanna go see what "everybody else"
is going to see just like they wanna buy what "everybody else" is
buying.  That is called being cool, fitting in and being up to speed
on what is in vogue.  Additionally, it has been amply demonstrated
that the primary reason a given movie comes in first at the box
office, a factor purely predicated upon ticket sale dollar amounts, is
if it is the most heavily advertised movie on television.

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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Victor Subervi  wrote:

> NOW...I've figured out the shipping problem after all. a friend/client has
> the largest auto parts distributorship in the Caribbean. His HQ is Atlanta.
> I'll just have Apple ship to there and he'll get it to me over here :)

  Glad to hear that you have found a way to solve the problem.

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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Stewart Marshall
 wrote:

> Secondly who still has VCR's hooked up to their system anyway?

  I stil have a VCR, but it is only used when I occasionally get the
bug to digitize something I have on tape, or to digitize a tape for a
friend.

  I used to have it hooked into my stereo system, but only sometimes
used it to make off-the-air digital audio recordings of radio
programs.  Higher end VCRs that had PCM audio were often employed as
the poor man's digital audio recorder as opposed to using DAT
recorders.

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Re: [CGUYS] Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! Finance

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
 wrote:

> Give us good movies instead of schlock and you might make more money!

  Stewart, they are making a ton of money.  Nothing to fret about in
that regard.  When the ground troops for the Hollywood moguls come to
Washington to cry about their terrible losses due to pirating, they
always come in their private corporate jets and take limos to the
Hill.

  The reason that they crank out schlock is because, for the most
part, moviegoers will readily consume that schlock.  As I have been
saying in another thread, real quality, up and down the line, is not a
priority with most consumers.  They wanna go see what "everybody else"
is going to see just like they wanna buy what "everybody else" is
buying.  That is called being cool, fitting in and being up to speed
on what is in vogue.  Additionally, it has been amply demonstrated
that the primary reason a given movie comes in first at the box
office, a factor purely predicated upon ticket sale dollar amounts, is
if it is the most heavily advertised movie on television.

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[CGUYS] Photoshop problems...

2010-01-07 Thread Bill L'Hommedieu
I'm running OS 10.4.11 . When I open photoshop files 8 crashes on  
opening. Dropped back to 7 and the same thing happens. 6 opened the  
file but another problem showed up: I now can't access my scanner   
(Epson Perfection 1660) to import new pics. I've cleaned out the 7  
and 8 versions and reinstalled but nothing changed.

Any ideas out there. Thanks.

Bill L'Hommedieu






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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread Victor Subervi
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:17 PM, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> rocky lee  escribió:
>
>  On the Apple web site, look under Distributors in Latin America.
>>
>> http://latam.apple.com/buy/lae/find.php?r_type=macs&r_pais=Virgin+Islands
>>
>
No way! You have no idea how unreliable Latin countries are. I just moved
back here from the Dominican Republic. Plus shipping fees out of them are
outrageous. Then there's duties, tariffs


> Consider a MacBook Pro with an external monitor for at home, and a solar
> backpack/bag like ones by Voltaic [VI = sunny] for when you're away from
> home.
>

I'll buy a notebook later. I want the tower for several reasons, one of
which is I can add a water-cooled system. I live on a boat. I want to seal
up the box.

NOW...I've figured out the shipping problem after all. a friend/client has
the largest auto parts distributorship in the Caribbean. His HQ is Atlanta.
I'll just have Apple ship to there and he'll get it to me over here :)
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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread Stewart Marshall

Problem is even if it is flashing 12 it is still right twice a day.

Secondly who still has VCR's hooked up to their system anyway?

Stewart


At 12:29 PM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

> It is the old geezers like you that still have "12:00 AM" flashing on their
> VCRs.

  God!  You have cut me to the core!  How can I possibly recover from
such an attack?

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Re: [CGUYS] Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! Finance

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Well that worked well.

what the article said is that Warner brothers has signed an agreement 
with Netflix that makes Netflix delay the release of new movies and 
such for one month for more access to allow viewing of Warner movies on line.


It seems that they already have an agreement with Blockbuster that 
gives them money for movies rented via Blockbuster.


So by doing this they make sure to increase their profits as most of 
the renting/buying of a new movie is done within the first month.


They have already tangled with Redbox over the same issue and have 
even delayed shipping movies or not sell movies to Redbox (they 
secure them through other wholesalers) for teh same reason.


Hollywood Studios are really flexing their muscle.

Give us good movies instead of schlock and you might make more money!

Stewart




At 12:07 PM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

You were saying 

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expressing it."
-- Oscar Wilde


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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:29 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Those same folks are not the ones that we were discussing.  We were
>> talking about folks who buy portable, mostly entertainment devices,
>> and those folks are usually young, not all that sophisticated about
>> how electronic devices work, and want whatever is currently trendy.
>
> A very false stereotype that I reject.

  Reject away all that you want.  You see my observation as being a
stereotype, yet a stereotype is not, by definition, erroneous in
nature.  But it is true that a stereotype is, in fact, something that
is very widely held and believed.  As is said, 50,000 Frenchmen can't
be wrong.


> It is the old geezers like you that still have "12:00 AM" flashing on their
> VCRs.

  God!  You have cut me to the core!  How can I possibly recover from
such an attack?

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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread b_s-wilk

rocky lee  escribió:


On the Apple web site, look under Distributors in Latin America.

http://latam.apple.com/buy/lae/find.php?r_type=macs&r_pais=Virgin+Islands




Three of the distributors have web pages. All have phone numbers and 
addresses listed. There's also a list of vendors that export Macs, 
http://latam.apple.com/buy/lae/find.php?r_type=macs&r_pais=US+%28Export%29.


You might want to ask if any of the local vendors sell used or 
refurbished Macs.


Do you want an iMac, Mac Pro, or MacBook Pro? There's no iMac Pro, 
except that pros are more likely to get the bigger model, but iMacs 
aren't particularly portable.


Consider a MacBook Pro with an external monitor for at home, and a solar 
backpack/bag like ones by Voltaic [VI = sunny] for when you're away from 
home.


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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:36 AM, mike  wrote:

> If the youngsters were hip to what tech works well, they'd not be buying
> ipods for 'sound quality', ipods are not known for their fidelity.

  You are right.  They don't buy or want them for their sound quality.
 They want them because they are trendy bling.  The fact that iPods
are made by Apple is of no consequence to them.  Chances are, a lot of
these youngsters who have an iPod are not even aware that Apple makes
it.

  There are a lot of folks, even some who are over thirty, who cannot
tell me what brand of digital camera they have without taking it out
and looking at it.  This is in spite of the fact that they are forever
taking pictures with it and showing them off to their friends.  Back
in the day of film, it was virtually impossible that camera users not
to know what kind of camera they had.  I think that consumers are so
completely flooded with choices these days, and are also so frightened
by everything digital, that they no longer feel as though they can
make their own decisions, so they just get whatever is there as long
as it basically works.  Consumers are cowed as never before.

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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread Stewart Marshall
You see this is what is so weird.  MY wife constantly uses her cell 
phone (I mean it literally hangs off her ear, talking to the kid so 
much) and yet her memory is like Swiss Cheese.


Where as I do not try and use it that much, keep my conversations 
short etc. and I remember stuff going way back.  (Like an elephant)


So lets keep on doing research, the sample size must not have been 
big enough. (Or at least did not include my wife.)


Stewart


At 11:50 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

Now I understand why I have a good memory... like a rodent!!

-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

This is a foul plot launched by the global warmists to demonstrate that
scientists really do report what they find, even when it doesn't agree with
expectations.

Fred Holmes

At 01:14 AM 1/7/2010, t.piwowar wrote:
>Could Your Cell Phone Help Shield You From Alzheimer's? - BusinessWeek
>http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/634709.html
>
>"exposure to electromagnetic field prevented and even reversed brain
>impairment"



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Re: [CGUYS] Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! Finance

2010-01-07 Thread MrMike6by9
You were saying 

--
"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man
expressing it."
-- Oscar Wilde

>
> Date:    Thu, 7 Jan 2010 07:22:55 -0800
> From:    "popoz...@earthlink.net" 
> Subject: Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! 
> Finance
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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread rleesimon
Now I understand why I have a good memory... like a rodent!!

-Original Message-
From: Fred Holmes [mailto:f...@his.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

This is a foul plot launched by the global warmists to demonstrate that
scientists really do report what they find, even when it doesn't agree with
expectations.

Fred Holmes

At 01:14 AM 1/7/2010, t.piwowar wrote:
>Could Your Cell Phone Help Shield You From Alzheimer's? - BusinessWeek
>http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/634709.html
>
>"exposure to electromagnetic field prevented and even reversed brain  
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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread katan
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:59:39 -0500, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:23 AM, tjpa  wrote:
>
>> Mac sales figures dispute your theory. While just about everybody else in
>> the industry had negative growth, Mac sales are up 16% year over year.
>
>  Citing such stats may initiate a dispute, but does not negate my
>theory.  Sales figures for Apples computers does not prove that

Or your personal experience.

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Re: [CGUYS] Reality

2010-01-07 Thread mike
Well Tom says 9...you say 6...Tony says not above 5%.  But you say already
above 6...why not say it's nowhere near 9%?  Maybe the better question is
why can't anyone get the numbers?  The difference between 6 and 9 is huge.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1496424/apple-market-share-restated
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/07/apple-market-share-up-or-down-depending-on-who-you-ask.ars

Couple of different views...the ars article shows Apple share going down,
not up at least according to IDC.

http://247wallst.com/2010/01/04/google-android-starts-to-hurt-apple-iphone-share/

A couple of polls regarding iphone vs android sales.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)  wrote:

> According to Frank Cioffi of Market Watch, Apple's share is already at
> 6%.  He further notes that Apple gets one of every five dollars from the
> home computing market, presumably in the US, but the article didn't say.
>
> Thank you,
> Mark Snyder
> -Original Message-
> Since this thread is now about "reality", I gotta ask: If this is
> true, how many years will it take to reach 100% of the market? How
> many to rise above 5%?
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Re: [CGUYS] Reality

2010-01-07 Thread Stewart Marshall
One of the reasons for the 20% of dollars is that their model is 
built on profits from hardware more than software.


Plus they have a very diverse market.

They do not loose any money on their Iphones.  ATT takes all the risk.

So Apple is a highly profitable company.

Stewart


At 10:39 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

According to Frank Cioffi of Market Watch, Apple's share is already at
6%.  He further notes that Apple gets one of every five dollars from the
home computing market, presumably in the US, but the article didn't say.

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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread mike
If the youngsters were hip to what tech works well, they'd not be buying
ipods for 'sound quality', ipods are not known for their fidelity.  They
look cool, they sync fairly easy...they play well enough.  I know what I'm
talking about...I've got six of them.  I got mine not for sound quality but
ease of use for what I use mine for.  My wife has a different mp3 player
because her needs were different.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:29 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Those same folks are not the ones that we were discussing.  We were
>> talking about folks who buy portable, mostly entertainment devices,
>> and those folks are usually young, not all that sophisticated about
>> how electronic devices work, and want whatever is currently trendy.
>>
>
> A very false stereotype that I reject.
>
> It is the old geezers like you that still have "12:00 AM" flashing on their
> VCRs.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] Reality

2010-01-07 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
According to Frank Cioffi of Market Watch, Apple's share is already at
6%.  He further notes that Apple gets one of every five dollars from the
home computing market, presumably in the US, but the article didn't say.

Thank you, 
Mark Snyder 
-Original Message-
Since this thread is now about "reality", I gotta ask: If this is
true, how many years will it take to reach 100% of the market? How
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Re: [CGUYS] Reality

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Tony B wrote:

Since this thread is now about "reality", I gotta ask: If this is
true, how many years will it take to reach 100% of the market? How
many to rise above 5%?


Apple has been above 5 for quite some time. I think they are at about  
9 now.


With Android moving into computers I think we will see more diversity  
in the future. Nobody will have 100%, but some will start wondering  
about how long it will be for M$ to hit zero.



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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread mike
Well if you looked at it from a reality standpoint it wouldn't seem that
way.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:23 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Tony B wrote:
>
>> This isn't the free rootkit scanner we've been using for years? I
>> admit, it's been over a year since I ran it last. And now I see at
>> this link it won't work on any newer systems.
>>
>
> Isn't this the thing about M$ strong-arming the anti-virus vendors out of
> the business so they can take it over?
>
> First they build a defective OS that needs lots of anti-virus help, then
> they sell the anti-virus help separately. They used to call this the fox
> guarding the hen house.
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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

Those same folks are not the ones that we were discussing.  We were
talking about folks who buy portable, mostly entertainment devices,
and those folks are usually young, not all that sophisticated about
how electronic devices work, and want whatever is currently trendy.


A very false stereotype that I reject.

It is the old geezers like you that still have "12:00 AM" flashing on  
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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have (it is always set to ring and vibrate as I cant hear that 
well.) I am a lost cause.


Stewart


At 10:02 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

  Try setting your phone to "vibrate" mode.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread Stewart Marshall

Smiling Bob?

Stewart


At 10:01 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:
This is a foul plot launched by the global warmists to demonstrate 
that scientists really do report what they find, even when it 
doesn't agree with expectations.


Fred Holmes

At 01:14 AM 1/7/2010, t.piwowar wrote:
>Could Your Cell Phone Help Shield You From Alzheimer's? - BusinessWeek
>http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/634709.html
>
>"exposure to electromagnetic field prevented and even reversed brain
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Re: [CGUYS] : Buying an iMac Pro -the answer

2010-01-07 Thread Stephen Brownfield
I believe that Rocky may have stated the the real answer to the original 
question.




rocky lee wrote:

On the Apple web site, look under Distributors in Latin America.

http://latam.apple.com/buy/lae/find.php?r_type=macs&r_pais=Virgin+Islands





  

Date:Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:59:32 -0400
From:Victor Subervi 
Subject: Buying an iMac Pro

Ok, you all convinced me. I'll have money next week. I
would like your
advice. I live in the US Virgin Islands (eat your hearts
out ;) but getting
things shipped down here is a major hassle. The USPS ships
for the same
costs as the continental US, but neither Apple nor Amazon
will ship this
computer here for me. I don't want to have to ship to my
brother and have
him reship it, that costs money and time. Anybody out there
know of a
supplier who will ship it directly to me?
TIA,
Victor

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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

The same could be said for UPS and FEDEX.

It is not really fair to ding the PO for doing what they were set up 
to do.  Move mail from point a to anywhere in the world.  (At a 
government controlled price less than anywhere else.)


Have they gotten too big, have they gotten to cranky definitely.  But 
we also have to take some of the blame as we have pushed and pushed 
and pushed behind the scene for them to do more with less.


I am not happy when I go in there at 2 PM in the afternoon and they 
have a line going out the door but only one person running a 
window.  (Cant pull anyone off the floor, they are not allowed to do 
window.)  Lets not even hit the labor issue shall we?


I told you I have a member that is currently with them (Moving to 
window clerk when they shut down all their vending)


I also have a member who was a route delivery guy and the union 
steward at one time.  What those folks can get away with is not 
always conducive to good mail service.


Stewart


At 10:02 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:

Between being a liason for some time between a credit processing company and
the main PO in Phoenix, and seeing how they treated personally media boxes
when I helped my brother in law move across the country...I'd not let them
ship even a Dell.


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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Tony B wrote:

This isn't the free rootkit scanner we've been using for years? I
admit, it's been over a year since I ran it last. And now I see at
this link it won't work on any newer systems.


Isn't this the thing about M$ strong-arming the anti-virus vendors out  
of the business so they can take it over?


First they build a defective OS that needs lots of anti-virus help,  
then they sell the anti-virus help separately. They used to call this  
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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread Fred Holmes
This is a foul plot launched by the global warmists to demonstrate that 
scientists really do report what they find, even when it doesn't agree with 
expectations.

Fred Holmes

At 01:14 AM 1/7/2010, t.piwowar wrote:
>Could Your Cell Phone Help Shield You From Alzheimer's? - BusinessWeek
>http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/634709.html
>
>"exposure to electromagnetic field prevented and even reversed brain  
>impairment"


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Re: [CGUYS] Reality

2010-01-07 Thread Tony B
Since this thread is now about "reality", I gotta ask: If this is
true, how many years will it take to reach 100% of the market? How
many to rise above 5%?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:23 AM, tjpa  wrote:
> Mac sales figures dispute your theory. While just about everybody else in
> the industry had negative growth, Mac sales are up 16% year over year.


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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:23 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> Mac sales figures dispute your theory. While just about everybody else in
> the industry had negative growth, Mac sales are up 16% year over year.

  Citing such stats may initiate a dispute, but does not negate my
theory.  Sales figures for Apple's computers does not prove that
people who got other Apple products were thereby swayed into getting a
Macintosh computer.

  Everyone, Apple Corp. included, thought that the switch to an Intel
processor would boost sales.  In fact, anybody that I know who got a
Macintosh when they had previously owned Windows machines would
probably never had done so had Apple not moved to the Intel, thus
providing for the use of Windows on an Apple computer.  Those
individuals did make a decision based upon quality of product as well
as the availability of having two operating systems at their disposal.
 Those same folks are not the ones that we were discussing.  We were
talking about folks who buy portable, mostly entertainment devices,
and those folks are usually young, not all that sophisticated about
how electronic devices work, and want whatever is currently trendy.


> When I'm working on site it is not uncommon for a secretary or AA to ask if
> they can get some advice. They don't ask dumb questions. To the contrary I'm
> impressed by how well they think things through. They ask tough questions
> about system integration that are often wiser than the analysis I see from
> supposed IT pros.

  Yeah, well, that does not mean that they are educated consumers in a
retail environment, especially when it comes to products that they are
not particularly knowledgeable about.

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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread mike
Between being a liason for some time between a credit processing company and
the main PO in Phoenix, and seeing how they treated personally media boxes
when I helped my brother in law move across the country...I'd not let them
ship even a Dell.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall <
popoz...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Lets step back for a second. It is not unreliable it is not perfect.
>
> I treid recently to have something shipped express mail.  Company refused
> to do it, instead charging me twice as much for FEDEX, of which they get a
> kick back.  So lets be honest here.  Companies use UPS and FEDEX due to the
> guaranteed rtes and cuts that they receive.
>
> For every mix up you point pout I can tell you a success story of stuff
> getting through and in record time.
>
> I also have opportunity to demand and get a refund from USPS without a
> hassle.
>
> At best they are inconsistent.  Part of this has to do with work rules and
> how management and union have classically not gotten along.
>
> I have a member who works for the USPS and she is a gem.  So is my route
> mailman (He delivers to one of my members and helps her with household
> things during his lunch (91 year old)
>
> Also note the volume USPS has.  The USPS has tried to make inroads with UPS
> and FEDEX with their priority and express mail (Matter of fact, both UPS and
> FEDEX have package delivery sharing with USPS.)  Also with package pickup
> they are aiming directly at the big two.
>
> I send out my Ebay stuff via priority mail all the time and have not lost a
> package and they average 2-3 days.
>
> Stewart
>
>
>
> At 09:37 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:
>
>  I think they avoid USPS because it is unreliable and doesn't take
>> inquiries about lost mail seriously.
>>
>> Last year they lost a registered letter I sent. Their inquiry number
>> had very long hold times and clueless employees. Their standard reply
>> was "we don't know, we'll call you back." But they never would call
>> back. I eventually gave up on them and had to pay late fees. USPS
>> could care less.
>>
>> Some years ago I lost an UPS package. They too said "we'll call you
>> back" and they did. "Sorry, your package was run over by a truck.
>> We'll send you a check for its value." And they promptly did.
>>
>
> Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
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> Ozark, AL  SL 82
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread mike
There is also rootkit revealer from Mark Russinovich who does some great
tools through sysinternals.


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897445.aspx

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:40 AM, tjpa  wrote:

> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:41 AM, John DeCarlo wrote:
>
>> I just got an email with an ad for a free rootkit "buster" (I think from
>> Trend Micro, based on the ad).
>>
>
> Trend Micro bought HijackThis about a year ago. This may be the fruit of
> that transaction.
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread Tony B
This isn't the free rootkit scanner we've been using for years? I
admit, it's been over a year since I ran it last. And now I see at
this link it won't work on any newer systems.
>Note: x64 operating systems are not supported.


On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:40 AM, tjpa  wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:41 AM, John DeCarlo wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email with an ad for a free rootkit "buster" (I think from
>> Trend Micro, based on the ad).
>
> Trend Micro bought HijackThis about a year ago. This may be the fruit of
> that transaction.


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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
 wrote:

> Personal testimony.  NO effect.

  Try setting your phone to "vibrate" mode.

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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Lets step back for a second. It is not unreliable it is not perfect.

I treid recently to have something shipped express mail.  Company 
refused to do it, instead charging me twice as much for FEDEX, of 
which they get a kick back.  So lets be honest here.  Companies use 
UPS and FEDEX due to the guaranteed rtes and cuts that they receive.


For every mix up you point pout I can tell you a success story of 
stuff getting through and in record time.


I also have opportunity to demand and get a refund from USPS without a hassle.

At best they are inconsistent.  Part of this has to do with work 
rules and how management and union have classically not gotten along.


I have a member who works for the USPS and she is a gem.  So is my 
route mailman (He delivers to one of my members and helps her with 
household things during his lunch (91 year old)


Also note the volume USPS has.  The USPS has tried to make inroads 
with UPS and FEDEX with their priority and express mail (Matter of 
fact, both UPS and FEDEX have package delivery sharing with 
USPS.)  Also with package pickup they are aiming directly at the big two.


I send out my Ebay stuff via priority mail all the time and have not 
lost a package and they average 2-3 days.


Stewart


At 09:37 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:


I think they avoid USPS because it is unreliable and doesn't take
inquiries about lost mail seriously.

Last year they lost a registered letter I sent. Their inquiry number
had very long hold times and clueless employees. Their standard reply
was "we don't know, we'll call you back." But they never would call
back. I eventually gave up on them and had to pay late fees. USPS
could care less.

Some years ago I lost an UPS package. They too said "we'll call you
back" and they did. "Sorry, your package was run over by a truck.
We'll send you a check for its value." And they promptly did.


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
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Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:41 AM, John DeCarlo wrote:
I just got an email with an ad for a free rootkit "buster" (I think  
from

Trend Micro, based on the ad).


Trend Micro bought HijackThis about a year ago. This may be the fruit  
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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Victor Subervi wrote:
The problem isn't on our end. The problem is that either the vendors  
don't
use USPS or refuse to ship to the VI based on a set of rules someone  
on top

arbitrarily set, usually based on rules copied from other companies!


I think they avoid USPS because it is unreliable and doesn't take  
inquiries about lost mail seriously.


Last year they lost a registered letter I sent. Their inquiry number  
had very long hold times and clueless employees. Their standard reply  
was "we don't know, we'll call you back." But they never would call  
back. I eventually gave up on them and had to pay late fees. USPS  
could care less.


Some years ago I lost an UPS package. They too said "we'll call you  
back" and they did. "Sorry, your package was run over by a truck.  
We'll send you a check for its value." And they promptly did.



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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Personal testimony.  NO effect.

Stewart


At 08:47 AM 1/7/2010, you wrote:


  I can see cellphone service providers raising their rates already,
touting the health benefits of their services.  Maybe they can find a
link between guys keeping their cell phones in their pants pockets and
the benefit that offers in terms of another problem related to aging.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread tjpa

On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:38 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

Again, I am not disparaging any Apple portable device, or any other
brand for that matter.  I am simply saying that issues of product
quality, product specifications and additional technical parameters
are not much of a factor when a customer enters that Best Buy store.


Mac sales figures dispute your theory. While just about everybody else  
in the industry had negative growth, Mac sales are up 16% year over  
year.


When I'm working on site it is not uncommon for a secretary or AA to  
ask if they can get some advice. They don't ask dumb questions. To the  
contrary I'm impressed by how well they think things through. They ask  
tough questions about system integration that are often wiser than the  
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[CGUYS] Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! Finance

2010-01-07 Thread popoz...@earthlink.net
From: popoz...@earthlink.net

Subject: Netflix to delay delivery of Warner's latest DVDs - Yahoo! Finance

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Message from sender:
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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Victor Subervi  wrote:

> That's not the problem. The problem is I would like to get it ASAP. Ever
> since I returned from the Dominican Republic flat broke 5 months ago I've
> literally been working on borrowed computers or at people's places of
> business (including trades with Internet cafes). I haven't had my own
> computer for 5 months, and I'm a programmer and Web site developer! I've
> been way-laid with things that changed in the industry (such as outsourcing
> and server farms with their suddenly pathetic hardware "solutions") and
> writing a totally automated shopping cart from scratch (some 12,000 lines of
> code!) which have made it almost impossible to survive. Now that's behind me
> and I can actually afford my own computer. I'd like to get it here ASAP and
> get this monkey off my back!

  Understood.  I would recommend checking with the Post Office to make
sure that they can handle and deliver whatever package(s) Apple or
whomever would be shipping, and proceed to make arrangements with or
cajole your brother into receiving said shipment and then re-sending
it to you via the USPS.  At least that will get the process underway
and you can cease thinking about that end of the problem.

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Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM, t.piwowar  wrote:

> Could Your Cell Phone Help Shield You From Alzheimer's? - BusinessWeek
> http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/634709.html
>
> "exposure to electromagnetic field prevented and even reversed brain
> impairment"

  I can see cellphone service providers raising their rates already,
touting the health benefits of their services.  Maybe they can find a
link between guys keeping their cell phones in their pants pockets and
the benefit that offers in terms of another problem related to aging.

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[CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail

2010-01-07 Thread John DeCarlo
Hello,

I just got an email with an ad for a free rootkit "buster" (I think from
Trend Micro, based on the ad).

http://free.antivirus.com/rootkit-buster/

I don't usually reboot into Windows, so I haven't had a chance to test this,
but thought others might be interested.

I'm sure we could all benefit from any experience trying to use this.

Thanks.

-- 
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Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys (& gal) Show]

2010-01-07 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:01 AM, t.piwowar  wrote:

> But I was writing about you. What you wrote was a clear example of Windows
> thinking.

  I hear from people who have recently gotten any iPody device, and I
also overhear recent recipients telling others about their excitement,
and for the most part they are far more excited about having joined
the ranks of the cool and up-to-date crowd than they are about the
quality of those products.  Most people who get any make or model of
any portable electronic device don't have much of a clue at all as to
what constitutes quality in those things.

  Most folks I know who have an iPhone, iPod or any similar product
made by Apple have Windows computers at home and probably will never
change in that arena.  These folks do not appear to me to make much
association whatsoever between the engineering that went into making
an iPod and the engineering that goes into making Macintosh computers.
 In fact, I do not personally know of a single person who has decided
to go all the way with Apple just because they have an iPod or iPhone.
 I am not saying it does not happen, but it is not a revolution.

  I seriously think that you tend to give way too much credit to the
brain processes of the average consumer.  Most buyers of products are
brand name driven or price driven and they are also prompted to buy
the type of product that is currently in vogue.  Think "Beanie Babies"
or "Cabbage Patch" or VHS over Betamax or Windows over Macintosh.
Consumers mostly respond to advertising or to price or to what they
think is the most popular in the firm belief that "most popular"
equates with "best" or means that the product is a so-called "must
have."

  Again, I am not disparaging any Apple portable device, or any other
brand for that matter.  I am simply saying that issues of product
quality, product specifications and additional technical parameters
are not much of a factor when a customer enters that Best Buy store.
Were such factors really a big part of the purchasing process, these
retail stores would actually have staff that could answer such
questions, and product advertising would reflect those concerns were
they any big deal.  You will have to go to a Myer-Emco or such if you
want any meaningful answers about quality in an electronic device, or
do your own research online or ask the opinion of friend who is
knowledgeable on the subject.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] : Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread rocky lee
On the Apple web site, look under Distributors in Latin America.

http://latam.apple.com/buy/lae/find.php?r_type=macs&r_pais=Virgin+Islands





> 
> Date:    Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:59:32 -0400
> From:    Victor Subervi 
> Subject: Buying an iMac Pro
> 
> Ok, you all convinced me. I'll have money next week. I
> would like your
> advice. I live in the US Virgin Islands (eat your hearts
> out ;) but getting
> things shipped down here is a major hassle. The USPS ships
> for the same
> costs as the continental US, but neither Apple nor Amazon
> will ship this
> computer here for me. I don't want to have to ship to my
> brother and have
> him reship it, that costs money and time. Anybody out there
> know of a
> supplier who will ship it directly to me?
> TIA,
> Victor
> 
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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread Victor Subervi
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Victor Subervi 
> wrote:
>
> > This is my point. Apple and Amazon *only* ship computers to the
> continental
> > US. I would not use FedEx or UPS...way too expensive...they charge for
> > shipping to the Caribbean. The USPS charges as if it were the continental
> > US...*much* cheaper. My question is, where can I find a vendor who will
> ship
> > via USPS and isn't anal retentive about shipping outside the continental
> US.
>
>   Question is understood.  Perhaps some independent vendors of Mac
> equipment, Other World Computing for example, may do so.  I just do
> not know.  Anyone down where you are have any good info about shipping
> from the United States?
>

The problem isn't on our end. The problem is that either the vendors don't
use USPS or refuse to ship to the VI based on a set of rules someone on top
arbitrarily set, usually based on rules copied from other companies!

>
>  Apple shipped my computer by FedEx for free.  That computer was a
> refurb, and I guess shipping was factored into the purchase price.  If
> your brother could get it for "free" or otherwise from Apple, perhaps
> the USPS could handle it from there.  A hassle, yes, but he is your
> brother, right?
>

That's not the problem. The problem is I would like to get it ASAP. Ever
since I returned from the Dominican Republic flat broke 5 months ago I've
literally been working on borrowed computers or at people's places of
business (including trades with Internet cafes). I haven't had my own
computer for 5 months, and I'm a programmer and Web site developer! I've
been way-laid with things that changed in the industry (such as outsourcing
and server farms with their suddenly pathetic hardware "solutions") and
writing a totally automated shopping cart from scratch (some 12,000 lines of
code!) which have made it almost impossible to survive. Now that's behind me
and I can actually afford my own computer. I'd like to get it here ASAP and
get this monkey off my back!
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Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro

2010-01-07 Thread Victor Subervi
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Reid Katan  wrote:

>  On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Victor Subervi
>   wrote:
>
>  This is my point. Apple and Amazon *only* ship computers to the
>> continental
>> US. I would not use FedEx or UPS...way too expensive...they charge for
>> shipping to the Caribbean. The USPS charges as if it were the continental
>> US...*much* cheaper. My question is, where can I find a vendor who will
>> ship
>> via USPS and isn't anal retentive about shipping outside the continental
>> US.
>>
>
> So, what you're saying is, living in the Virgin Islands(?) is not all it's
> cracked up to be, huh?


There are problems everywhere, no? We have the problem with shipping. You
have the GWEN towers to lower/dull your brainwave frequencies thanks to the
government/Illuminati, and the *joy* of living in a police state. It's for
these reasons I can't even stand to visit the US. I'll deal with the
shipping problems...and enjoy paradise at the same time ;)
V


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