Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>I'm not sure how else to describe the application. The flight >sim (X-plane) needs to read/write the prefs (different from Mac OSX >prefs, this is the starting location, aircraft, etc.) Standard >trouble shooting practice is to delete the prefs directory (file?). I don't know. I do know that what you describe makes me nervous. Apps need to be kept under control to prevent bad things from happening. >I'd be uneasy with that. I have little snitch running in an >attempt to prevent that kind of behavior. Little Snitch, while good protection, is for something else. It traps applications that try to phone home. If you run a rogue app on your computer it could disable Little Snitch first and you will never know what happend. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Tom Piwowar >>And that is what I was trying to do - install the flight >>simulator... Except that it's not a "general" app, it's special. > The idea of "general" app vs. "special" app is totally foreign > to me. All apps can do potentially harmful things to a computer > so I worry about all apps. If there are no safeguards about any > random app running I am concerned. I'm not sure how else to describe the application. The flight sim (X-plane) needs to read/write the prefs (different from Mac OSX prefs, this is the starting location, aircraft, etc.) Standard trouble shooting practice is to delete the prefs directory (file?). > A while back Flash was able to update itself without getting > intercepted by OS X. I was very unhappy about that and am > glad this is no longer the case. We really do need to have > the OS able to protect itself. I'd be uneasy with that. I have little snitch running in an attempt to prevent that kind of behavior. > One reason I like hardware applicances is because all their > code is in firmware. While it can be updated, it is a special > process. It sometimes even requires that hardware buttons get > pressed a certain way, so the hardware protects the firmware. Yes -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Common sense ain't... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>And that is what I was trying to do - install the flight >simulator... Except that it's not a "general" app, it's special. The idea of "general" app vs. "special" app is totally foreign to me. All apps can do potentially harmful things to a computer so I worry about all apps. If there are no safeguards about any random app running I am concerned. A while back Flash was able to update itself without getting intercepted by OS X. I was very unhappy about that and am glad this is no longer the case. We really do need to have the OS able to protect itself. One reason I like hardware applicances is because all their code is in firmware. While it can be updated, it is a special process. It sometimes even requires that hardware buttons get pressed a certain way, so the hardware protects the firmware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Tom Piwowar >>That's why I prefer to use a limited user for everything on a >>regular basis, it limits my exposure. (I picked up this habit >>years ago when I was a system manager for a PDP & VAX systems. > That is correct, except when installing software or making > changes to the system. That is what the admin account is for. And that is what I was trying to do - install the flight simulator... Except that it's not a "general" app, it's special. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Do Not Attempt to Traverse a Chasm in Two Leaps. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>That's why I prefer to use a limited user for everything on a >regular basis, it limits my exposure. (I picked up this habit >years ago when I was a system manager for a PDP & VAX systems. That is correct, except when installing software or making changes to the system. That is what the admin account is for. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
In the classic "Yellow Pages" I believe it was/is policy to list every business for free as a simple one-liner. The cost came when the business wanted a graphic m x n advertisement on the page. At 05:23 PM 1/21/2009, Tom Piwowar wrote: >>I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? > >Google makes it easy to enter business information and does not charge. >Getting folks to enter this information is of mutual benefit as it makes >Google's maps much more valuable. Someday whan all earthly information is >controlled by Google and they turn evil I expect that it will become pay >to play. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Tom Piwowar > That's in the documentation. They don't directly say not > to do it. They do describe why you will be sorry if you do it. That's why I prefer to use a limited user for everything on a regular basis, it limits my exposure. (I picked up this habit years ago when I was a system manager for a PDP & VAX systems. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly A mime is a terrible thing to waste! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>Actually, I don't remember ever getting a password prompt, >just an error dialog about not being able to write to a file. Because you did not have the right perms. >I also don't remember ever being told not to install it as >an application. That's in the documentation. They don't directly say not to do it. They do describe why you will be sorry if you do it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? Google makes it easy to enter business information and does not charge. Getting folks to enter this information is of mutual benefit as it makes Google's maps much more valuable. Someday whan all earthly information is controlled by Google and they turn evil I expect that it will become pay to play. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Yes and I participate in it. I have not been told of free updates for a year, but when I connect my device some stuff gets updated. Also note. More detailed maps are sold by these folks that are regional in nature. Hefty at 49.95 each. I have found I need to add rest stops on interstates as they are not part of the basic map. Stewart At 11:12 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: I recalled something from TomTom. According to the TomTom web site, new TomTom products support Map Share (tm). To quote from http://www.tomtom.com/page/mapshare: "TomTom's unique Map Share technology enhances your navigation experience, letting you make instant corrections to your map directly on your TomTom device. You can also receive similar corrections made by the entire TomTom community of Map Share users." One does this by connecting the unit to TomTom Home software running on Windows or Mac. It sounds like a partial solution for map updates if you are part of the "community." Does anyone have any experience with it? The web site also says they sell map updates, which I think may be free for the first twelve months on purchases of new units (but I don't know - I had trouble finding details during the quick look I took). Sorry this response isn't more definitive. -Andy Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
I recalled something from TomTom. According to the TomTom web site, new TomTom products support Map Share (tm). To quote from http://www.tomtom.com/page/mapshare: "TomTom’s unique Map Share technology enhances your navigation experience, letting you make instant corrections to your map directly on your TomTom device. You can also receive similar corrections made by the entire TomTom community of Map Share users." One does this by connecting the unit to TomTom Home software running on Windows or Mac. It sounds like a partial solution for map updates if you are part of the "community." Does anyone have any experience with it? The web site also says they sell map updates, which I think may be free for the first twelve months on purchases of new units (but I don't know - I had trouble finding details during the quick look I took). Sorry this response isn't more definitive. -Andy Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It is not so easy. Garmin, TomTom and others buy their maps from a couple of companies. TeleAtlas, Navteq etc. These maps are only updated every few years Right now if I punch in the street address for my church it sends me 1.5 miles down the road. Reason for this is that 6 years ago they redid all the street addresses for E911. Before they were a mess. If I put in the old street address it finds it dead on. Just this past summer I saw a van from TeleAtlas in the area doing some remapping. So I expect some change in the next couple of years. If you live in a highly populated area expect your map to be more up to date etc. Again density and population determines how often your area is remapped by these companies. (who then sell these remapped areas to another company etc. etc.) Oh I can download updated Points of Interest from the TomTom site. Some are done by the company (Home Depot etc.) and are more accurate and up to date. Stewart At 02:10 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: I've got a Garmin and have generally been amused, but somewhat disappointed by what it thinks it knows and doesn't know. It knows where Home Depots are located, just not the one that's 15 minutes from me (that's been in the same location since the late 1980s). It suggests I drive 2+ hours to find one. The same goes for Trader Joes and a slew of other places. A local hospital moved 2 years ago and last year's map didn't know about it. It doesn't even know where the Costco that it came from is located. On the amusing side, it knows the abbreviation "SC" stands for South Carolina. I programmed in a location for a business with "SC" in the name. It tells me, "now arriving at South Carolina" It knows how to read street names for the most part. Expressway is...well Expressway, but Expwy is "ex-pweee" Also, it is rather amusing that if you program it for "shortest distance", the directions will take you off the freeway, onto the exit ramp and then back onto the freeway again. Apparently that's .0001 miles shorter than just staying on the freeway. I called Garmin and the kind person I spoke with (after waiting on hold for 30+ minutes) didn't understand how it doesn't know the various locations. That was with updated maps too. I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Oh I forgot to say TomTom allows these updates (POI) to be rated. Always look for the highest rated one (Occasionally there are two for the same entity. Unless of course the folks have been working for Belkin, than you can ignore them.) Stewart At 03:22 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: It is not so easy. Garmin, TomTom and others buy their maps from a couple of companies. TeleAtlas, Navteq etc. These maps are only updated every few years Right now if I punch in the street address for my church it sends me 1.5 miles down the road. Reason for this is that 6 years ago they redid all the street addresses for E911. Before they were a mess. If I put in the old street address it finds it dead on. Just this past summer I saw a van from TeleAtlas in the area doing some remapping. So I expect some change in the next couple of years. If you live in a highly populated area expect your map to be more up to date etc. Again density and population determines how often your area is remapped by these companies. (who then sell these remapped areas to another company etc. etc.) Oh I can download updated Points of Interest from the TomTom site. Some are done by the company (Home Depot etc.) and are more accurate and up to date. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
It is not so easy. Garmin, TomTom and others buy their maps from a couple of companies. TeleAtlas, Navteq etc. These maps are only updated every few years Right now if I punch in the street address for my church it sends me 1.5 miles down the road. Reason for this is that 6 years ago they redid all the street addresses for E911. Before they were a mess. If I put in the old street address it finds it dead on. Just this past summer I saw a van from TeleAtlas in the area doing some remapping. So I expect some change in the next couple of years. If you live in a highly populated area expect your map to be more up to date etc. Again density and population determines how often your area is remapped by these companies. (who then sell these remapped areas to another company etc. etc.) Oh I can download updated Points of Interest from the TomTom site. Some are done by the company (Home Depot etc.) and are more accurate and up to date. Stewart At 02:10 PM 1/20/2009, you wrote: I've got a Garmin and have generally been amused, but somewhat disappointed by what it thinks it knows and doesn't know. It knows where Home Depots are located, just not the one that's 15 minutes from me (that's been in the same location since the late 1980s). It suggests I drive 2+ hours to find one. The same goes for Trader Joes and a slew of other places. A local hospital moved 2 years ago and last year's map didn't know about it. It doesn't even know where the Costco that it came from is located. On the amusing side, it knows the abbreviation "SC" stands for South Carolina. I programmed in a location for a business with "SC" in the name. It tells me, "now arriving at South Carolina" It knows how to read street names for the most part. Expressway is...well Expressway, but Expwy is "ex-pweee" Also, it is rather amusing that if you program it for "shortest distance", the directions will take you off the freeway, onto the exit ramp and then back onto the freeway again. Apparently that's .0001 miles shorter than just staying on the freeway. I called Garmin and the kind person I spoke with (after waiting on hold for 30+ minutes) didn't understand how it doesn't know the various locations. That was with updated maps too. I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? Larry Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
I've got a Garmin and have generally been amused, but somewhat disappointed by what it thinks it knows and doesn't know. It knows where Home Depots are located, just not the one that's 15 minutes from me (that's been in the same location since the late 1980s). It suggests I drive 2+ hours to find one. The same goes for Trader Joes and a slew of other places. A local hospital moved 2 years ago and last year's map didn't know about it. It doesn't even know where the Costco that it came from is located. On the amusing side, it knows the abbreviation "SC" stands for South Carolina. I programmed in a location for a business with "SC" in the name. It tells me, "now arriving at South Carolina" It knows how to read street names for the most part. Expressway is...well Expressway, but Expwy is "ex-pweee" Also, it is rather amusing that if you program it for "shortest distance", the directions will take you off the freeway, onto the exit ramp and then back onto the freeway again. Apparently that's .0001 miles shorter than just staying on the freeway. I called Garmin and the kind person I spoke with (after waiting on hold for 30+ minutes) didn't understand how it doesn't know the various locations. That was with updated maps too. I suspect businesses have to pay to have their locations identified? Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:06 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X >Actually, I think Tom was saying that Garmin forcing you to use Active >X is a Bad Thing. And I'd have to ag. . . agre. . . Ohh, I just can't >say it. Forcing anyone to use IE is certainly a crime. I went one step further to say that any company who can't figure out how to do a job using open standards is advertising that they have very poor engineering skills. Hence I would expect to be otherwise not too hot. I believe subsequent posts cleared Garmin of this offense, but raised a new one. To register you had to be running an administrative account. That is not quite as bad as requiring IE, but certainly does not establish their engineering chops. So instead of 0 stars they get 2 stars. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
katan > Really? Install our program or run Active X to register the > product? That doesn't sound like the greatest customer > service. I guess there's always ye olde tried-and-true > mail-in card? I didn't see one. I'm guessing they get a lot of configuration information from the Active-X control/Mac app. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Take my advice, I not using it! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Tom Piwowar >>Some programs can be installed and used as a non-admin, >>x-plane for example. It isn't a general purpose >>application like word processing, etc. To run, it has to >>open files for read/write from where it was installed. > > They tell you to not install it into the Applications > folder. Doing that would cause a password prompt (unless > your were user 500 or 501). Actually, I don't remember ever getting a password prompt, just an error dialog about not being able to write to a file. I also don't remember ever being told not to install it as an application. > Looks like you give it a directory of its own and it builds > everything it needs in there. This would circumvent the OS's > password prompt. At most you would get a prompt that you are > running something that was downloaded. You can say "yes" to > that without entering a password. I for one would prefer that > the OS did require a password for this. I do get the dialog about "Downloaded from the internet"... -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Whip me, beat me, make me write BASIC! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>Some programs can be installed and used as a non-admin, >x-plane for example. It isn't a general purpose >application like word processing, etc. To run, it has to >open files for read/write from where it was installed. They tell you to not install it into the Applications folder. Doing that would cause a password prompt (unless your were user 500 or 501). Looks like you give it a directory of its own and it builds everything it needs in there. This would circumvent the OS's password prompt. At most you would get a prompt that you are running something that was downloaded. You can say "yes" to that without entering a password. I for one would prefer that the OS did require a password for this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
> Forcing anyone to use IE is certainly a crime. I went one step further > to say that any company who can't figure out how to do a job using open > standards is advertising that they have very poor engineering skills. > Hence I would expect to be otherwise not too hot. It's OK, katan, I can say it. I agree with Tom. It burns a little, but it happens so infrequently, that I can tough it out. Logmein is another one that depends on ActiveX, except, if you aren't running as the admin, you don't even know it's trying to d/l an applet. I wasted hours one day trying to figure out why our new CEO's computer wouldn't connect with his computer back in his old job because of this. All I would get is a static screenshot of his remote desktop, instead of a live session. Sites that are all Java or Flash, without an HTML backup version, are similarly criminal. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:49:53 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote: >So is the latest version of the story that you were correctly blocked >from installing software and that lead to your not being able to >register? After you installed the software with proper admin rights you >were able to register from a standard account? > >If that is the case there is no reason to castigate Garmin. Maybe you >should be reading the "Little Mac Book?" Really? Install our program or run Active X to register the product? That doesn't sound like the greatest customer service. I guess there's always ye olde tried-and-true mail-in card? -- R:\katan - SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Tom Piwowar >>Can IWork or iLife be installed as a limited user? Yes, I >>installed the Garmin program as admin and then switched to >>the limited user to do the actual registration. > No application can be installed by a non-admin user. That > is as it should be. Some programs can be installed and used as a non-admin, x-plane for example. It isn't a general purpose application like word processing, etc. To run, it has to open files for read/write from where it was installed. Installing as admin means that is who has to run it. Installing it as a limited user lets me use it as non-admin user (that was my goal). > So is the latest version of the story that you were > correctly blocked from installing software and that lead > to your not being able to register? After you installed > the software with proper admin rights you were able to > register from a standard account? The latest version? There things I know now that I didn't before changing the results of what I get. > If that is the case there is no reason to castigate > Garmin. Maybe you should be reading the "Little Mac Book?" I expect to be learning things my entire life. I've never seen the Little Mac Book. Many things were obvious in use, other things not so obvious. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Death has been proven to be 99% fatal in laboratory rats! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>Can IWork or iLife be installed as a limited user? Yes, I >installed the Garmin program as admin and then switched to >the limited user to do the actual registration. No application can be installed by a non-admin user. That is as it should be. So is the latest version of the story that you were correctly blocked from installing software and that lead to your not being able to register? After you installed the software with proper admin rights you were able to register from a standard account? If that is the case there is no reason to castigate Garmin. Maybe you should be reading the "Little Mac Book?" * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Tom Piwowar >>Actually, I think Tom was saying that Garmin forcing you to >>use Active X is a Bad Thing. And I'd have to >>ag. . . agre. . . Ohh, I just can't say it. > Forcing anyone to use IE is certainly a crime. I went one > step further to say that any company who can't figure out > how to do a job using open standards is advertising that > they have very poor engineering skills. Hence I would > expect to be otherwise not too hot. > I believe subsequent posts cleared Garmin of this offense, > but raised a new one. To register you had to be running an > administrative account. That is not quite as bad as > requiring IE, but certainly does not establish their > engineering chops. So instead of 0 stars they get 2 stars. Can IWork or iLife be installed as a limited user? Yes, I installed the Garmin program as admin and then switched to the limited user to do the actual registration. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Uninitialized pointers can get you in a heap of trouble! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>Actually, I think Tom was saying that Garmin forcing you to use Active >X is a Bad Thing. And I'd have to ag. . . agre. . . Ohh, I just can't >say it. Forcing anyone to use IE is certainly a crime. I went one step further to say that any company who can't figure out how to do a job using open standards is advertising that they have very poor engineering skills. Hence I would expect to be otherwise not too hot. I believe subsequent posts cleared Garmin of this offense, but raised a new one. To register you had to be running an administrative account. That is not quite as bad as requiring IE, but certainly does not establish their engineering chops. So instead of 0 stars they get 2 stars. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:07:16 -0500, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: >Tony B >> Wild first guess - you _are_ using IE? ActiveX only works >> in IE. And there should be a blocking notice you'll have >> to manually approve. Install IE7 (if applicable) and try >> again. > >Tom seemed to indicate lack of Mac support seemed to be a >reason to not consider Garmin. None of the manufacturers >seem to go out of there way to support the Mac. Very sad. Actually, I think Tom was saying that Garmin forcing you to use Active X is a Bad Thing. And I'd have to ag. . . agre. . . Ohh, I just can't say it. I refuse to let IE loose on the Internet. So I guess I shouldn't buy a Garmin product--or at least, not try to register it. -- R:\katan - SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
David Newhall > On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:35 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic > digest system wrote: >> Date:Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:05:21 -0500 >> From:Wayne Dernoncourt >> Subject: Windows & Active X >> I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October. I've been >> trying to register it on the Garmin site for the last >> couple of weeks. I say trying because so far I've >> been failing. They don't really support the Mac so >> I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP computer. >> The Windows version uses Active X for the registration >> process. For some reason, Active X is being prevented >> from running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing >> still worked. I don't know how to figure out where to >> go from here. > Garmin is one of the few GPS companies that provides > decent Mac support. I've registered two on my Mac and > love the new tool that sends google map coordinates to > the Favorites folder on the device right from Google > Maps. Ahhh, I normally use this Mac as a limited user, everything I do is as a limited user. Installing the Garmin s/w didn't do much that way. I tried doing this as a the admin and had lots more success. It's been registered! Thanks much. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly COBOL: Completely Obnoxious Because of Length * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:35 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:05:21 -0500 From:Wayne Dernoncourt Subject: Windows & Active X I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October. I've been trying to register it on the Garmin site for the last couple of weeks. I say trying because so far I've been failing. They don't really support the Mac so I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP computer. The Windows version uses Active X for the registration process. For some reason, Active X is being prevented from running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing still worked. I don't know how to figure out where to go from here. Garmin is one of the few GPS companies that provides decent Mac support. I've registered two on my Mac and love the new tool that sends google map coordinates to the Favorites folder on the device right from Google Maps. David Newhall Falls Church, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Tony B > Wild first guess - you _are_ using IE? ActiveX only works > in IE. And there should be a blocking notice you'll have > to manually approve. Install IE7 (if applicable) and try > again. Tom seemed to indicate lack of Mac support seemed to be a reason to not consider Garmin. None of the manufacturers seem to go out of there way to support the Mac. Very sad. This was true with both Firefox and IE. First I used Firefox and then realized it could be an IE thing. I thought I looked at the settings, I didn't see anything to allow/disallow the Active X control. I'll take another look and maybe re-install IE. Thanks for the link to test Active X, Garmin also has a link to test their application with the 'puter setup. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly Radioactive halibut will make fission chips * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
>I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October. I've been trying to >register it on the Garmin site for the last couple of weeks. I >say trying because so far I've been failing. They don't really >support the Mac so I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP >computer. The Windows version uses Active X for the registration >process. For some reason, Active X is being prevented from >running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing still worked. I >don't know how to figure out where to go from here. (Don't tell anyone that I use PCs too.) And thanks for the tip, a good reason to avoid Garmin. Active X access can be controlled by IE's security settings. Because it is such a great way to attck PCs it is often set to off or limited access. How to chnage IE's settings varies with different versions of IE so you need to look this up for your IE version. There is an Active X test page at www.pcpitstop.com/testax.asp. It also provides a bunch of tips depending on your test results. A good place to start. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows & Active X
Wild first guess - you _are_ using IE? ActiveX only works in IE. And there should be a blocking notice you'll have to manually approve. Install IE7 (if applicable) and try again. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: > I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October. I've been trying to > register it on the Garmin site for the last couple of weeks. I > say trying because so far I've been failing. They don't really > support the Mac so I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP > computer. The Windows version uses Active X for the registration > process. For some reason, Active X is being prevented from > running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing still worked. I > don't know how to figure out where to go from here. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Windows & Active X
I bought myself a Garmin GPS in October. I've been trying to register it on the Garmin site for the last couple of weeks. I say trying because so far I've been failing. They don't really support the Mac so I've been trying to use my wife's Windows XP computer. The Windows version uses Active X for the registration process. For some reason, Active X is being prevented from running, I tried shutting down AVG and nothing still worked. I don't know how to figure out where to go from here. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly We all live in a yellow subroutine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
