[Cooker] Services by default...

2001-03-23 Thread Esko

How about a tool through which the user could easily
A>  Activate / Deactivate the installed Services AND see what is active
B>  If A is too hard to implement give a list of services that are active.

By the way 8.0 Beta 2 is finally able to install on my FIC PA2013 
motherboard.  (It was annoying since 7.2 and 8.0 beta 1 would not install)

I'm not sure how to assist with testing 8.0 Beta 2.  (am I supposed to update 
8.0 beta 2 from Cooker periodically or just leave it the way it was installed 
from the ISOs?)  I've been monitoring the list for a few days and haven't 
seen that type of info.  Is there a FAQ about Beta testing Mandrake that 
explains your processes?

Esko





Re: [Cooker] beta2 & xinit error

2001-03-23 Thread Frederic Lepied

"=/\\= Majki =/\\=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
> When I start xinit I got error:
> 
> Error on option -geometry:unknown option
> Run 'xvt --help' to see a full list option of available command line options
> 

Could issue a ls -l /etc/alternatives/xvt ?
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you





[Cooker] rpminst hangs if nfs unavailable

2001-03-23 Thread Eaon

Subject pretty much covers it.  :-)  rpmdrake kicked off rpminst to
update some packages, and for some reason it couldn't establish the NFS
connection to the system that houses my mirror (that's my theory,
anyway), and rpminst just hung.  Dead.  I hoped maybe it would timeout,
so I just left it.  Had supper.  Watched a movie (Bless The Child, if
you care, not bad).  Came back.  Still hung up.  Rebooted (sorry, bad
holdover habit from my M$ days), and it established NFS just fine and
worked.  Am I missing a setting somewhere?  Or is rpminst in need of a
timeout?

Eaon





Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Prana

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Guillaume is just kidding, and was being sarcastic about me because his 
perception was that I said a non-factual thing that Perl made Mandrake 
installer prone to crash. What I meant was it's really hard for me to read 
Perl code, that's why I said Perl isn't a good choice. In my reality, yes, 
I've been an x86 Assembly programmer starting in 1996, and I can still code 
in Assembly now. I used to code Pascal too before I learned Assembly.

And yes, Assembly is, in my own opinion (not a factual statement), easier 
than Perl\('/`'?\$/ that has a lot of weird stuff. However C++, C, Java, and 
Pascal is by far preferrable fo userland development. I won't code userland 
application using Assembly anymore unless it's necessary.

Hey, by the way, did you hear that new Bind worm? Do you still want to start 
bind by default after install? :-) :-) Well, I don't care, besides I believe 
that most of the network services will still be started by default after 
install.

Prana

On Friday 23 March 2001 22:43, you wrote:
> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > Yeah, you're right : it probably crashes because it uses Perl.
> >
> > We are in the process of rewriting it in 30% assembly, 45% pascal, and
> > 25% lambda-prolog.
>
> Oh dear!   Has it occurred to you to wonder where you can obtain all
> those skills in a single person?   And whether that is a good idea?
>
> Both for initial development and for the ongoing maintenance for a
> number of years ...
>
> Stick to a single language, please, and that NOT being assembler.
>
> It is too risky for the company if that multi-skilled person leaves
> or has to be booted out.

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Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate for MandrakeFreq?

2001-03-23 Thread Ron Stodden

Sean Dague wrote:
> 
> Will we see an update to MandrakeUpdate for 7.2 that will let us update to
> MandrakeFreq?  That would be most excellent.

Hmmm ...   I had rather thought that MandrakeFreq was to be the
replacement for MandrakeUpdate, and would be issued in 7.2 (like now)
and 8.0 versions.

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [au]




Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Ron Stodden

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> Yeah, you're right : it probably crashes because it uses Perl.
> 
> We are in the process of rewriting it in 30% assembly, 45% pascal, and 25%
> lambda-prolog.

Oh dear!   Has it occurred to you to wonder where you can obtain all
those skills in a single person?   And whether that is a good idea?

Both for initial development and for the ongoing maintenance for a
number of years ...

Stick to a single language, please, and that NOT being assembler.  

It is too risky for the company if that multi-skilled person leaves
or has to be booted out.

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [au]




[Cooker] updated packages for cooker?

2001-03-23 Thread JorgP

How about new sendmail and bind 9.1.1rc6?

-- 
Thanks
Jorg




Re: [Cooker] RPMDrake - a positive email

2001-03-23 Thread Digital Wokan

I just tried RPMDrake for the first time the other night, and while it
"feels" slow, it's definitely no slower than KPackage on my system. 
More likely a problem with the rpm way of doing things than RPMDrake. 
So I, too, would like to thank MandrakeSoft for another good program.

Giles Hamlin wrote:
> I just tried playing with it again this evening, as I've finally given
> up hope of doing anything with apt-get for the time being  and I have
> to say.. WOW! It's a vast improvement on the version I used about 10
> days ago, and I found it quite easy to upgrade packages on my system to
> the latest cooker versions. Beforehand, I downloaded the latest RPM 4,
> urpmi and RPMDrake packages, and with the combination of these, RPMdrake
> is finally looking a viable option - oh, and it took maybe less than 10
> seconds to start up on my Athlon 550 so the speed is looking good too :-)
> 
> Good work Mandrake!
> 
> Giles
> 
> P.S - Is it just me or does it look very much like the graphical front
> end that Corel designed for apt-get??
-- 
Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age
Guerilla Linux Warrior




Re: [Cooker] nvidia binaries for cooker

2001-03-23 Thread Tim

Hey Con,

As I am sure Cooker fans out there would love to have access to these, I can
host them on my web site: www.crazy-horse.net

It's still in the building stages but it's on a very fast connection and I
have plenty of space at the hosting company. I can either put them on an
http link or anon ftp space. If you are interested email me back privately
or on the list and we'll figure out the easiest way for you to get me the
files.

-Tim McKenzie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "Con Kolivas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 8:48 PM
Subject: [Cooker] nvidia binaries for cooker


> I regularly repackage nvidia kernel and glx rpms for latest cooker,
> and have a working XF86Config-4 file to use with it. Is anyone
> interested in them and if so where should I upload them (my provider
> doesn't really let me run a server and upload speed is limited).
>
> Con.
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Con Kolivas

Original message from: Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:43:02 +1000
>Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> >
>> >Those poor Aussies.  New York.  Someone was out of their mind.
:-P
>> 
>> Yes that's right. My brother gets files from my machine via Los
>> Angeles... even though we're both 5 mins away from each other in
>> Melbourne, Australia!
>> :(
>> 
>
>It isn't the distance that counts so much as the server.  I get
better
>results from mirrors in the UK than from some that are only a few
hundred
>miles distant.

I don't doubt that but the bandwidth between my machine and my
brothers can be made ten times larger by simply downloading ten things
concurrently from my machine.


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Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Collins Richey

On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:43:02 +1000
Con Kolivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> >Those poor Aussies.  New York.  Someone was out of their mind.  :-P
> 
> Yes that's right. My brother gets files from my machine via Los
> Angeles... even though we're both 5 mins away from each other in
> Melbourne, Australia!
> :(
> 

It isn't the distance that counts so much as the server.  I get better
results from mirrors in the UK than from some that are only a few hundred
miles distant.

-- 
Collins Richey
Denver Area




Re: Re: [Cooker] nvidia binaries for cooker

2001-03-23 Thread Con Kolivas

Original message from: Greg Sarsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Con Kolivas wrote:
>> 
>> I regularly repackage nvidia kernel and glx rpms for latest cooker,
>> and have a working XF86Config-4 file to use with it. Is anyone
>> interested in them and if so where should I upload them (my
provider
>> doesn't really let me run a server and upload speed is limited).
>> 
>> Con.
>
>you can send them to me if you want.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Greg

Sounds good. Where would you put them? I'm interested in them being
freely available to cookers.



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Re: [Cooker] nvidia binaries for cooker

2001-03-23 Thread Greg Sarsons

Con Kolivas wrote:
> 
> I regularly repackage nvidia kernel and glx rpms for latest cooker,
> and have a working XF86Config-4 file to use with it. Is anyone
> interested in them and if so where should I upload them (my provider
> doesn't really let me run a server and upload speed is limited).
> 
> Con.
> 
> __
> Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au

you can send them to me if you want.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greg




[Cooker] nvidia binaries for cooker

2001-03-23 Thread Con Kolivas

I regularly repackage nvidia kernel and glx rpms for latest cooker,
and have a working XF86Config-4 file to use with it. Is anyone
interested in them and if so where should I upload them (my provider
doesn't really let me run a server and upload speed is limited).

Con.



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Re: Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Con Kolivas

>
>Those poor Aussies.  New York.  Someone was out of their mind.  :-P

Yes that's right. My brother gets files from my machine via Los
Angeles... even though we're both 5 mins away from each other in
Melbourne, Australia!
:(




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Re: [Cooker] Fwd: [Win4lin-beta] Win4Lin 3.0 and 2.4.x Kernel support

2001-03-23 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mandrake people, please see paragraph 7

??? i don't see something to see..

-- 
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  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Eaon

Ya, they run their site on SunOS, which is pretty odd for a place so in
love with OpenBSD.  None of which is Linux.  Bad them.  ;-)  I've never
really cared if a download dies, since I get nice speed of them so I
just restart.  But if you were further away or had a bad line that would
be a problem.

Coffee sounds great.  Drop me a line.  :-)

Eaon


On 23 Mar 2001 14:14:28 -0700, Prana wrote:
> Hiya,
>  Just wanna let you know that the mirror @ University of Alberta is
> brain-damaged since the FTP doesn't support resume. I'm in Edmonton, by
> the way. Wanna go for coffee?
> 
> Prana
> 
> Eaon wrote:
> > Otherwise, the University of Alberta (in Edmonton, 300 KMs north of Calgary)
> > has a big, fat sunsite mirror and a big, fat pipe, but no mandrake-devel
> > (7.2 and iso's, yes, devel, no).  Has anyone considered asking them if they
> > would add cooker to their site?
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Eaon

Touche, ya got me.  :-)  But Cadvision is a very low traffic site
compared to rpmfind.net (I suppose living here I would know that.
They're a local ISP that just happens to be owned by PSINet so they have
a big, fat pipe out to the world).

And for the amusement of all, I did do a traceroute to Cadvision.  9
hops, none taking longer than 60 ms, and all but two reconizably within
the city of Calgary (the two in question didn't give me a name, just an
IP, so I can't be sure where they are).  It takes 20 hops to get to
ciril.fr, with times up to 400 ms

Those poor Aussies.  New York.  Someone was out of their mind.  :-P

Eaon


On 23 Mar 2001 17:10:44 -0600, Vincent Meyer wrote:
> um.. well, i get data rates of like 45-65 k/ sec on my cable modem
> from ftp.ciril.fr in France, and like 7k / sec from rpmfind in  
> Boston.  Boston is MUCH closer.  
> 
> V.
> 
> Eaon wrote:
> > Besides, just take a wild guess, what is going to be closer, topology-wise,
> > to me, a mirror in the same city as me, or one on the other side of the
> > Atlantic (and continent, since Alberta is on the west side of North
> > America)?  Can you give any example when it would be a shorter route to
> > cross the planet than to go down the block?
> 
> 
> 





Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Michael Brown

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > Just because we install a service, does not mean we are immediately
> > ready to run it. People who have worked in government, universities,
> > or large corporate companies will understand the politics involved,
> > and how sometimes decisions move slowly. Yuch!
> Mandrake doesn't do this with everything.  I installed Webmin ages ago and 
> I've only just found out that I have to go to /usr/share/webmin and run 
> the setup.sh before it can be used.

That's funny - I never used webmin before yesterday (but it was installed
along with everything else - it's on a private home network so I don't
worry too much about excess services).  I was able to browse to
https://localhost:1/ without having to run any setup scripts.

Michael





[Cooker] Fwd: [Win4lin-beta] Win4Lin 3.0 and 2.4.x Kernel support

2001-03-23 Thread Peter Ruskin

Mandrake people, please see paragraph 7

--  Forwarded Message  --
Subject: [Win4lin-beta] Win4Lin 3.0 and 2.4.x Kernel support
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 18:19:20 -0500
From: Mike Badger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Dear Beta List members:

We are writing to post an update regarding the status of the Win4Lin
Desktop release 3.0 and the future of the beta list.

The beta list was intended to be a means of supporting beta users during
the Win4Lin 2.0 Desktop release. Unfortunately, it continued far past that
date into the period of time when no actual Desktop beta was available. We
apologize to those who signed up for the list at our web site where you
were promised a beta release of the Desktop version. We also apologize to
those who downloaded a beta version of the Multi-user version, signed up
for this list, and have not received timely support.

We want to get our house in order. The first issue we'd like to address is
the features that have been added to Win4Lin Desktop 3.0 and the "no hype"
facts on when and how you may obtain it.

-Status of Win4Lin version 3.0

We have implemented 2.4.x kernel support for all 3 versions of the generic
Linux kernel from ftp.kernel.org

Additionally we have the beta kernel for Red Hat 7.1, from Red Hat, but no
actual Red Hat 7.1 distribution. We have Win4Lin-Enabled Patches/RPMs and
SRPMs for SuSE 7.1

If we can acquire either the distributions or the beta kernels, we will
 add support for Mandrake 8.0 and Caldera 2.5 prior to our release date.
 If we cannot, then the updates will be available in the future at our web
 site. A common question we receive is: if you already have the Win4Lin
 enabled 2.4.x generic kernels, why can't I download them today? The
 answer is that the 2.4.x Win4Lin enabled kernels require the 3.0 release.

An important addition to release 3.0 is the graphical installer that
automates the initial installation of Win4Lin, and also can be used to
search for and download product updates from the NeTraverse web site.

The Win4Lin Installer
   -performs initial installation of Win4Lin
   -updates previously installed versions of Win4Lin
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During initial installation, the Win4Lin installer:
   -verifies the version of the Win4Lin program RPM
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The Win4Lin installer can also perform these tasks anytime the user checks
for Win4Lin updates.

We've made enhancements to our networking support by adding VNET. Version
3.0 now supports:
-Winsock 1.1 networking, which shares the Linux IP address
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Additionally we have corrected critical bugs and have re-written the user
manual.


-How and when you can obtain version 3.0

Win4Lin Desktop 3.0 will be available for download at our web site by late
April. If you purchased Win4Lin Desktop version 2.0 at our web site, you
will be able to download version 3.0 without paying any additional upgrade
fee.


-The future of the beta list

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If you joined this list because you wanted a beta release of the 3.0
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In the future we hope to strike a balance between how beta sites were
managed during the 2.0 release which lacked any participant validation
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support and feedback from the beta sites, and how we have been required to
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Due to the aggressive deadlines set by management we have had to select
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We realize the value of a broad public beta and also know in order to
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Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Vincent Danen

On Fri Mar 23, 2001 at 02:14:28PM -0700, Prana wrote:

> Hiya,
>  Just wanna let you know that the mirror @ University of Alberta is
> brain-damaged since the FTP doesn't support resume. I'm in Edmonton, by
> the way. Wanna go for coffee?
> 
> Prana
> 
> Eaon wrote:
> > Otherwise, the University of Alberta (in Edmonton, 300 KMs north of Calgary)
> > has a big, fat sunsite mirror and a big, fat pipe, but no mandrake-devel
> > (7.2 and iso's, yes, devel, no).  Has anyone considered asking them if they
> > would add cooker to their site?

Yup, I've asked (which is why the updates got on there, and the last
stable also, I think).  Unfortunately, they didn't really respond when
I asked them about cooker, so maybe if a few others (ie. you and
Prana) were to ask, then maybe we could get it on there.

I'll see if I can find out who runs the mirror site (I forget off the
top of my head) to see if it's a possibility.

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Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Vincent Meyer

um.. well, i get data rates of like 45-65 k/ sec on my cable modem
from ftp.ciril.fr in France, and like 7k / sec from rpmfind in  
Boston.  Boston is MUCH closer.  

V.

Eaon wrote:
> Besides, just take a wild guess, what is going to be closer, topology-wise,
> to me, a mirror in the same city as me, or one on the other side of the
> Atlantic (and continent, since Alberta is on the west side of North
> America)?  Can you give any example when it would be a shorter route to
> cross the planet than to go down the block?






Re: [Cooker] Kernel 2.4.2 and Via Chipset

2001-03-23 Thread pablito

Is there any way to upgrade to Beta 1 from 7.2 without having to use the
2.4.1 kernel?  I tried installing it from CD and configuring grub to use the
2.2 kernel but it still resulted in a kernel panic.

-Original Message-
From: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, March 23, 2001 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Kernel 2.4.2 and Via Chipset


>"K. Danna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Quick question, Beta 1 warns of potential problems with kernel 2.4.1 and
the
>> Via chipset, are these problems still present or have they been fixed in
>> 2.4.2?
>
>yes it should be fixed now.
>
>--
>MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
>  --Chmouel
>
>





RE: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Rajesh Veerappan

Ahh, you obviously haven't read all the complaints on Slashdot from
Aussies :) There was one guy who did a traceroute on his neighbor and the
packet was going all the way to New York before coming back! It all
depends on which other ISPs your ISP is peering with at the NAP(?).

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Eaon wrote:

> Forget all the fancy topology junk, I just mirrored off it one night, and
> was pulling upwards of 700K/s.  That's getting close to topping out the max
> speed of my cable modem.  What more evidence do I need than that?
> 
> Besides, just take a wild guess, what is going to be closer, topology-wise,
> to me, a mirror in the same city as me, or one on the other side of the
> Atlantic (and continent, since Alberta is on the west side of North
> America)?  Can you give any example when it would be a shorter route to
> cross the planet than to go down the block?
> 
> I wasn't just guessing about how good it was before I said something, I have
> been known on occasion to research (what little I had to do) what I say
> before I say it.
> 
> Unfortunately it wasn't until the mirror was "done", i.e. downloaded all
> that it could, that I found out that the thing was broken.  It goes as far
> as xearth (IIRC) in the Mandrake/RPMS directory, and everything
> alphabetically beyond that is not there (I checked against another mirror
> (ciril.fr) that I knew was good).  images and boot directories are empty
> too.
> 
> Eaon
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JJ
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:08 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors
> >
> >
> > Just because it's close (physically)(sic) to you does not
> > indicate how close it
> > actually is in internet topography, try a traceroute to the
> > LOWEST/FASTEST path!
> >
> > Eaon wrote:
> >
> > > While we are on the subject of messed up mirrors, Cadvision
> > > (ftp.cadvision.com) is listed on the cooker mirrors page, but
> > their mirror
> > > of broken.  It looks like it failed to finish mirroring on Jan
> > 30th, and no
> > > one has started it back up again and fixed it.  I've tried
> > emailing them but
> > > got no response (and mirroring from them, with their server
> > center being 20
> > > blocks from my home, would be far more efficient than pulling
> > from anywhere
> > > else).  Does anyone else have a contact there they could talk to and get
> > > this fixed?
> > >
> > > And incidentally, the Cooker page says Cadvision is in the U.S.
> >  It isn't.
> > > It is located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.  But now I'm just being
> > > patriotic.  ;-)
> > >
> > > Otherwise, the University of Alberta (in Edmonton, 300 KMs
> > north of Calgary)
> > > has a big, fat sunsite mirror and a big, fat pipe, but no mandrake-devel
> > > (7.2 and iso's, yes, devel, no).  Has anyone considered asking
> > them if they
> > > would add cooker to their site?
> > >
> > > Eaon
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guillaume Rousse
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:55 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [Cooker] Content of mirors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Who's in charge of mirror at mandrakesoft ?
> > > > How is it possible that some mirrors, as rsync.proxad.net, have more
> > > > content than primary mirrors (sunsite.uoi.no or sunet.se) ? They
> > > > have sparc
> > > > & alpha packages, for instance.
> > > > --
> > > > Guillaume Rousse
> > > >
> > > > Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
> > > > O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 





[Cooker] Gdk - bad pixbuff

2001-03-23 Thread OS

Hello,

Whenever I try to run Nautilis or Evolution I get :

Gdk-ERROR **: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter)
  serial 3487 error_code 4 request_code 2 minor_code 0

Is this because I don't use the Mandrake Mozilla, but rather use the Mozilla 
nightly builds and link to the neaded libraries ?

I have all the latest gdk rpm's, nautilus-1.0-4mdk and evolution-0.9-1mdk.

Owen




RE: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Eaon

Forget all the fancy topology junk, I just mirrored off it one night, and
was pulling upwards of 700K/s.  That's getting close to topping out the max
speed of my cable modem.  What more evidence do I need than that?

Besides, just take a wild guess, what is going to be closer, topology-wise,
to me, a mirror in the same city as me, or one on the other side of the
Atlantic (and continent, since Alberta is on the west side of North
America)?  Can you give any example when it would be a shorter route to
cross the planet than to go down the block?

I wasn't just guessing about how good it was before I said something, I have
been known on occasion to research (what little I had to do) what I say
before I say it.

Unfortunately it wasn't until the mirror was "done", i.e. downloaded all
that it could, that I found out that the thing was broken.  It goes as far
as xearth (IIRC) in the Mandrake/RPMS directory, and everything
alphabetically beyond that is not there (I checked against another mirror
(ciril.fr) that I knew was good).  images and boot directories are empty
too.

Eaon

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JJ
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors
>
>
> Just because it's close (physically)(sic) to you does not
> indicate how close it
> actually is in internet topography, try a traceroute to the
> LOWEST/FASTEST path!
>
> Eaon wrote:
>
> > While we are on the subject of messed up mirrors, Cadvision
> > (ftp.cadvision.com) is listed on the cooker mirrors page, but
> their mirror
> > of broken.  It looks like it failed to finish mirroring on Jan
> 30th, and no
> > one has started it back up again and fixed it.  I've tried
> emailing them but
> > got no response (and mirroring from them, with their server
> center being 20
> > blocks from my home, would be far more efficient than pulling
> from anywhere
> > else).  Does anyone else have a contact there they could talk to and get
> > this fixed?
> >
> > And incidentally, the Cooker page says Cadvision is in the U.S.
>  It isn't.
> > It is located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.  But now I'm just being
> > patriotic.  ;-)
> >
> > Otherwise, the University of Alberta (in Edmonton, 300 KMs
> north of Calgary)
> > has a big, fat sunsite mirror and a big, fat pipe, but no mandrake-devel
> > (7.2 and iso's, yes, devel, no).  Has anyone considered asking
> them if they
> > would add cooker to their site?
> >
> > Eaon
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guillaume Rousse
> > > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:55 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Cooker] Content of mirors
> > >
> > >
> > > Who's in charge of mirror at mandrakesoft ?
> > > How is it possible that some mirrors, as rsync.proxad.net, have more
> > > content than primary mirrors (sunsite.uoi.no or sunet.se) ? They
> > > have sparc
> > > & alpha packages, for instance.
> > > --
> > > Guillaume Rousse
> > >
> > > Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
> > > O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
> > >
>
>
>





[Cooker] Joysticks

2001-03-23 Thread Peter Ruskin

Sometimes I boot with the 2.2 kernel, sometimes 2.4.  The trouble is, they 
each use different device files for joysticks.  I used to load the 
joystick modules in /etc/modules.conf but never got it working right for 
2.4.

I added the following to /etc/rc.d/rc.local and that did the trick.  It's 
probably not the most elegant way to do it - comments welcome.


### Setup joystick according to which kernel is booted
KERNEL22=`uname -r | grep 2.2.`
KERNEL24=`uname -r | grep 2.4.`

### I previously did (after booting 2.2):
###   mv mv /dev/js? /dev/js?-22

# we're booting kernel 2.2 ...
if [ "$KERNEL22" != "" ] ; then
# if /dev/js0-22 exists, last boot was 2.4, else 2.2
[ -c /dev/js0-22 ] && mv -f /dev/js0-22 /dev/js0
[ -c /dev/js1-22 ] && mv -f /dev/js1-22 /dev/js1
[ -c /dev/js2-22 ] && mv -f /dev/js2-22 /dev/js2
[ -c /dev/js3-22 ] && mv -f /dev/js3-22 /dev/js3
modprobe joy-analog
fi

# we're booting kernel 2.4 ...
if [ "$KERNEL24" != "" ] ; then
# if /dev/js0-22 doesn't exist, last boot was 2.2, else 2.4
[ -c /dev/js0-22 ] || mv /dev/js0 /dev/js0-22
[ -c /dev/js1-22 ] || mv /dev/js1 /dev/js1-22
[ -c /dev/js2-22 ] || mv /dev/js2 /dev/js2-22
[ -c /dev/js3-22 ] || mv /dev/js3 /dev/js3-22
ln -s /dev/input/js0 /dev/js0
ln -s /dev/input/js1 /dev/js1
ln -s /dev/input/js2 /dev/js2
ln -s /dev/input/js3 /dev/js3
modprobe joydev
modprobe ns558
modprobe analog
fi


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Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Friday 23 March 2001 07:33, Daniel Woods wrote:
> > > (1) We assume that when you want a server installed, that most
> > > probably means that you want it activated because you will use it ;
> >
> > Not necessarily. The assumption was not 100% valid because the logic
> > is: when I install something it doesn't mean that I want it to run
> > right away. For example:
>
[...]
> Just because we install a service, does not mean we are immediately
> ready to run it. People who have worked in government, universities,
> or large corporate companies will understand the politics involved,
> and how sometimes decisions move slowly. Yuch!
>
Mandrake doesn't do this with everything.  I installed Webmin ages ago and 
I've only just found out that I have to go to /usr/share/webmin and run 
the setup.sh before it can be used.

That's probably a good example of how it *should* be done and ought to 
apply to *all* services - with the appropriate notification so that we 
know what to do.
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[Cooker] installing mandrake with Lui

2001-03-23 Thread Sean Dague

I'm not sure if this is the right place to have this discussion, but I
figured that it is a worth while place to try to find the right people.

I am one of the developers on the Lui project 
(http://oss.software.ibm.com/lui) which is a cluster installer which works
on many distributions.  I have been trying to use it to install Mandrake,
but find that something within the packages I am installing is getting a
lock on /mnt (which is the local root of the installing client), so our 
installer can't umount it after install, which causes problems.

I am hoping to find whoever works on the Mandrake installer to figure out if
such things have been seen by them before, and how to get over the hump.  We
currently work with RedHat, Connectiva, and MSC.Linux, and I would like to
add Mandrake to that list.  This seems to be the last hangup I am getting.

Any help would be great.

-Sean
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Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread JJ

Just because it's close (physically)(sic) to you does not indicate how close it
actually is in internet topography, try a traceroute to the LOWEST/FASTEST path!

Eaon wrote:

> While we are on the subject of messed up mirrors, Cadvision
> (ftp.cadvision.com) is listed on the cooker mirrors page, but their mirror
> of broken.  It looks like it failed to finish mirroring on Jan 30th, and no
> one has started it back up again and fixed it.  I've tried emailing them but
> got no response (and mirroring from them, with their server center being 20
> blocks from my home, would be far more efficient than pulling from anywhere
> else).  Does anyone else have a contact there they could talk to and get
> this fixed?
>
> And incidentally, the Cooker page says Cadvision is in the U.S.  It isn't.
> It is located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.  But now I'm just being
> patriotic.  ;-)
>
> Otherwise, the University of Alberta (in Edmonton, 300 KMs north of Calgary)
> has a big, fat sunsite mirror and a big, fat pipe, but no mandrake-devel
> (7.2 and iso's, yes, devel, no).  Has anyone considered asking them if they
> would add cooker to their site?
>
> Eaon
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guillaume Rousse
> > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:55 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Cooker] Content of mirors
> >
> >
> > Who's in charge of mirror at mandrakesoft ?
> > How is it possible that some mirrors, as rsync.proxad.net, have more
> > content than primary mirrors (sunsite.uoi.no or sunet.se) ? They
> > have sparc
> > & alpha packages, for instance.
> > --
> > Guillaume Rousse
> >
> > Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
> > O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
> >





Re: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Prana

Hiya,
 Just wanna let you know that the mirror @ University of Alberta is
brain-damaged since the FTP doesn't support resume. I'm in Edmonton, by
the way. Wanna go for coffee?

Prana

Eaon wrote:
> Otherwise, the University of Alberta (in Edmonton, 300 KMs north of Calgary)
> has a big, fat sunsite mirror and a big, fat pipe, but no mandrake-devel
> (7.2 and iso's, yes, devel, no).  Has anyone considered asking them if they
> would add cooker to their site?

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[Cooker] MandrakeUpdate for MandrakeFreq?

2001-03-23 Thread Sean Dague

Will we see an update to MandrakeUpdate for 7.2 that will let us update to
MandrakeFreq?  That would be most excellent.

-Sean
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Re: [Cooker] RFC DrakX package selection tree

2001-03-23 Thread =/\\= Majki =/\\=


> Since, AFAICT, dependencies are always installed, and the only difference
> the button makes is whether or not they are shown as selected in the
> package selection list, how about:
> 
> "Show automatically-selected packages"

I like it





Re: [Cooker] SB Live! & midi LM 8.0 beta1

2001-03-23 Thread =/\\= Majki =/\\=



> "=/\\= Majki =/\\=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi!
> > When I try to play midi on my SB Live! I got error:
> > open /dev/sequencer: No such device
> 
> what do you have in your /etc/conf.modules ?
> 

pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
alias usb-interface usb-uhci
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 > /proc/parport/0/irq
alias eth0 ne2k-pci






Re: [Cooker] Dual head on G400 with XFree86 4.0.3 anyone?

2001-03-23 Thread Alan Olsen

On 23 Mar 2001, Frederic Lepied wrote:

> "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:23:52PM +0100, Frederic Lepied wrote:
> > > "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > I have reproduced the bug here. Under investigation...
> > 
> > Awesome!!
> >
> 
> Bad news. I have contacted Matrox and the G400 dual head can't work
> without libhal. Sorry.

Libhal is only used to set the modes.

The only reason that they keep it proprietary is that if you have access
to the source to libhal, you can also turn off macrovision protection for
the DVD decoder.

There is work being done to ignore the need for libhal, but I am not
certain at what point it is at. 

Again the DVD copy protection scam has unintended consiquences.

Sigh.

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Re: [Cooker] Kernel 2.4.2 and Via Chipset

2001-03-23 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

"K. Danna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Greetings,
> 
> Quick question, Beta 1 warns of potential problems with kernel 2.4.1 and the 
> Via chipset, are these problems still present or have they been fixed in 
> 2.4.2?

yes it should be fixed now.

-- 
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  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Dual head on G400 with XFree86 4.0.3 anyone?

2001-03-23 Thread Frederic Lepied

"Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:23:52PM +0100, Frederic Lepied wrote:
> > "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > I have reproduced the bug here. Under investigation...
> 
> Awesome!!
>

Bad news. I have contacted Matrox and the G400 dual head can't work
without libhal. Sorry.
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you





Re: [Cooker] Re: XftConfig

2001-03-23 Thread Arnd Bergmann

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Brian J. Murrell wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:38:13AM +0100, Frederic Lepied wrote:
> > Thanks I will use it in my next build.
> 
> Excellent!  Can you include an xterm that support AA fonts too?
> 
That would be nice, it only involves recompiling the xterm package
with XFree86-4.0.3-mdk1 installed, but without any changes.

More important imho would still be to have some good fonts actually
included, now that they will be found. The best free (beer) fonts
are from M$ windows and from Sun java. 
Still quite good and free as in speech are the ones from OpenOffice.
Red Hat already include some of them as a seperate package.

If it is still possible to squeeze another .5 to 2 MB into the
distribution CDs, my vote goes to make another package of the
already included openoffice60/share/fonts/type1/l*2.pfa (that is
"Lucida ... Tur" in western encoding) and make QT depend on that. 
Those are the files I specified in XftConfig as the next 
replacements when none of the above free/beer fonts are found.

Arnd  <><





RE: [Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Eaon

While we are on the subject of messed up mirrors, Cadvision
(ftp.cadvision.com) is listed on the cooker mirrors page, but their mirror
of broken.  It looks like it failed to finish mirroring on Jan 30th, and no
one has started it back up again and fixed it.  I've tried emailing them but
got no response (and mirroring from them, with their server center being 20
blocks from my home, would be far more efficient than pulling from anywhere
else).  Does anyone else have a contact there they could talk to and get
this fixed?

And incidentally, the Cooker page says Cadvision is in the U.S.  It isn't.
It is located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.  But now I'm just being
patriotic.  ;-)

Otherwise, the University of Alberta (in Edmonton, 300 KMs north of Calgary)
has a big, fat sunsite mirror and a big, fat pipe, but no mandrake-devel
(7.2 and iso's, yes, devel, no).  Has anyone considered asking them if they
would add cooker to their site?

Eaon

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guillaume Rousse
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 1:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] Content of mirors
>
>
> Who's in charge of mirror at mandrakesoft ?
> How is it possible that some mirrors, as rsync.proxad.net, have more
> content than primary mirrors (sunsite.uoi.no or sunet.se) ? They
> have sparc
> & alpha packages, for instance.
> --
> Guillaume Rousse
>
> Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
> O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.
>





[Cooker] uploaded contrib RPM -- pkgconfig

2001-03-23 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog


Dunno if anybody bother to try but this is a good start of unifying
effort on various xxx-config scripts.. have uploaded it to /incoming.

Lenny, have sent a mesg to you, please at least tell me so if this doesn't
worth to be in contrib..



Name: pkgconfigRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 0.5.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Sun 18 Mar 2001
11:27:43 AM HKT
Install date: Sun 18 Mar 2001 11:28:52 AM HKT  Build Host: localhost
Group   : Development/GNOME and GTK+Source RPM:
pkgconfig-0.5.0-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 90089License: GPL
Packager: Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://pkgconfig.sourceforge.net
Summary : A tool to gather compile/link flags of libraries
Description :
pkgconfig is a tool for determining compilation options.
For each required library it reads a configuration file installed
in a standard option and ouputs the necessary compiler and linker
flags.

* Wed Mar 07 2001 Abel Cheung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.5.0-1mdk

- first mandrake package, taken from redhat rpm
- remove manual stripping
- some more macros
- corrected summary
- add some docs (leave out README -- outdated)
- add %dir to %_libdir/pkg-config






RE: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] amaya-4.3.1-1mdk

2001-03-23 Thread Eaon

I too say thank you.  :-)  

And someone complained that the developers don't read cooker.  ;-)

Eaon

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lenny Cartier
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 8:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] amaya-4.3.1-1mdk
> 
> 
> Eaon wrote:
> > 
> > While we're requesting things, how about the URL to the application
> > homepage?  
> 
> done :)
> 
>   lenny
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> --
> Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Informatique: Excel, Word, chef de projet informatique." (c)
> Serious resume
> 




Re: [Cooker] GConf - needs dependency on OAF

2001-03-23 Thread Frederic Crozat

Dans l'article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Vadim
Plessky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :


> Rebuilding GConf, I found that build fails if OAF not installed
> (./configure reports that OAF is needed).
> Installing OAF before compiling GConf fixed problem.  Pls add Build
> dependency in GConf SRPM.

Fixing on its way.. thanks :)



-- 
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MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] amaya-4.3.1-1mdk

2001-03-23 Thread Randy Kramer

Lenny,

Thanks!

Randy Kramer

Lenny Cartier wrote:
> 
> Randy Kramer wrote:
> > Amaya is a WYSIWYG browser/web authoring tool from the W3C. UNIX and
> > Windows versions are available.
> 
> done :)




Re: [Cooker] Dual head on G400 with XFree86 4.0.3 anyone?

2001-03-23 Thread Brian J. Murrell

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:23:52PM +0100, Frederic Lepied wrote:
> "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I have reproduced the bug here. Under investigation...

Awesome!!

b.


-- 
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[Cooker] GConf - needs dependency on OAF

2001-03-23 Thread Vadim Plessky


Rebuilding GConf, I found that build fails if OAF not installed (./configure 
reports that OAF is needed).
Installing OAF before compiling GConf fixed problem.

Pls add Build dependency in GConf SRPM.

-- 

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http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html  (Russian)
Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it!
http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html




Re: [Cooker] Dual head on G400 with XFree86 4.0.3 anyone?

2001-03-23 Thread Frederic Lepied

"Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Has anyone gotten the G400 dual head mode to work with the 4.0.3-1mdk
> using the driver shipped by Mandrake?
> 
> My Xserver sees both screens (it's showing a screen size of 2880:
> 1600 + 1280) but it does not actually display on the second monitor.
> 
> Anyone got this mode working?
> 

I have reproduced the bug here. Under investigation...
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you





Re: [Cooker] Can't boot Traktopel

2001-03-23 Thread pablito

break an egg white on the CD -- makes an install work better!






Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] amaya-4.3.1-1mdk

2001-03-23 Thread Lenny Cartier

Eaon wrote:
> 
> While we're requesting things, how about the URL to the application
> homepage?  

done :)

lenny


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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] amaya-4.3.1-1mdk

2001-03-23 Thread Lenny Cartier

Randy Kramer wrote:
> 
> I'd like to request that you add something to the description to point
> out that it is at least an attempt at WYSIWYG HTML editing, perhaps:
> 
> Amaya is a WYSIWYG browser/web authoring tool from the W3C. UNIX and
> Windows versions are available.

done :)

lenny

-- 

--
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Serious resume




Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> > We are in the process of rewriting it in 30% assembly, 45% pascal, and
> > 25% lambda-prolog.
> Too bad there isn't place anymore for o-caml :-)

Actually Pixel is a too poor coder in ocaml :-).



-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Re: XftConfig

2001-03-23 Thread Brian J. Murrell

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 07:38:13AM +0100, Frederic Lepied wrote:
> Thanks I will use it in my next build.

Excellent!  Can you include an xterm that support AA fonts too?

Thanx,
b.


-- 
Brian J. Murrell




[Cooker] Bugzilla LOL 8^)

2001-03-23 Thread Weird Al

C'est réponse au poteau au poteau ' incorrect ':

"if there was a way to mark a question here as invalid I would
sure mark this one" 

 You know you have been using Bugzilla too long when...
 you start trying to deal with Real Life the same 
 way you would a bug report :-) 

 Girlfriend whining to you... 

 - Your X GF keeps calling? CLOSED! 
 - Seeing other women (blocker)? UNCONFIRMED! 
 - Don't cuddle enough (trivial)? INVALID! 
 - You never cry (enhancement)? WONTFIX! 
 - Forgeting her birthday? Bought a PDA! FIXED! 
 - Leaving the toilet seat up? REMIND! 
 - Spend too much time surfing for Porn? VERIFIED! 
 - Take out the trash? LATER! 
 - You don't want to fight, let's just forget about it? REOPENED!

 - She doesn't climax in bed (all platforms)? WORKSFORME! 

LOL! too funny :0)


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Re: [Cooker] Can't boot Traktopel

2001-03-23 Thread Alex Riechert

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> "Alex Riechert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
>>> 03:07 is /dev/hda7 so you don't need scsi modules; either you need the
>>> reiserfs modules (if you / is on a reiserfs partition) or the root device
>>> parameter is not correct..
>>> The best would be to boot the rescue to try and understand what your
>>> system needs to mount the root device..
>> 
>> / is a reiserfs partion (/dev/hda7 / reiserfs defaults 1 1)
>> 
>> So how can I force Linux to load the reiserfs module during the booting?
>> Or which root device parameters could be wrong (could you look up my fstab
>> and lilo.conf in my original message)?
> 
> 
> "force" is not the correct wording :-)..
> 
> you need to have an initrd for that. the installer should have done it for
> you..
> 
> best is to do a "man mkinitrd" from a valid system, and build an initrd
> for your machine.
> 
> then boot the rescue, copy the initrd on relevant place, possibly update
> your bootmanager config file.

OK! I'll try it tonight! I'm confident that it will work. 
Thanks vachement beaucoup for the explanations!

Alex





Re: [Cooker] tkinter-2.0-3mdk.i586.rpm is broken

2001-03-23 Thread Tim

On Friday 23 March 2001 09:01, you wrote:
>  tkinter-2.0-3mdk.i586.rpm  is broken and will not install. This is off of
> a current rsync from sunsite.no. When opened with kpackage the package
> causes a segfault. With an rpm -ivh  tkinter-2.0-3mdk.i586.rpm , rpm just
> hangs there. I left it all night with no results. Anyone else having this
> problem?

Don't I feel silly... just rm'd the package and tried again and it worked 
this time. Still having the segfault problem with urpmi though. Is this a 
well known problem? So far the only input I've gotten is that I have to 
reinstall cooker to fix it. Surely there is another way Anyone at 
MandrakeSoft have any ideas?




Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse


Le 2001.03.23 17:23:05 +0400, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit :
> Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The installer also needs improvement. It crashes a lot. See the
> > frustrated people in newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandrake. People there need
> > help too, and some of them are getting frustrated because the installer
> > crashes. I hope the next 8.0 won't crash at all. Using perl for install
> > is already a bad choice, in my humblest opinion (this part is only my
> > opinion from my experience). At least we can work together to make a
> 
> Yeah, you're right : it probably crashes because it uses Perl.
> 
> We are in the process of rewriting it in 30% assembly, 45% pascal, and
> 25%
> lambda-prolog.
Too bad there isn't place anymore for o-caml :-)
-- 
Guillaume Rousse

Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.




[Cooker] tkinter-2.0-3mdk.i586.rpm is broken

2001-03-23 Thread Tim

 tkinter-2.0-3mdk.i586.rpm  is broken and will not install. This is off of a 
current rsync from sunsite.no. When opened with kpackage the package causes a 
segfault. With an rpm -ivh  tkinter-2.0-3mdk.i586.rpm , rpm just hangs there. 
I left it all night with no results. Anyone else having this problem?




Re: [Cooker] Can't boot Traktopel

2001-03-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"Alex Riechert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> > 03:07 is /dev/hda7 so you don't need scsi modules; either you need the
> > reiserfs modules (if you / is on a reiserfs partition) or the root device
> > parameter is not correct..
> > The best would be to boot the rescue to try and understand what your
> > system needs to mount the root device..
> 
> / is a reiserfs partion (/dev/hda7 / reiserfs defaults 1 1)
> 
> So how can I force Linux to load the reiserfs module during the booting?
> Or which root device parameters could be wrong (could you look up my fstab
> and lilo.conf in my original message)?

"force" is not the correct wording :-)..

you need to have an initrd for that. the installer should have done it for
you..

best is to do a "man mkinitrd" from a valid system, and build an initrd
for your machine.

then boot the rescue, copy the initrd on relevant place, possibly update
your bootmanager config file.



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Can't boot Traktopel

2001-03-23 Thread Alex Riechert

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> "Alex Riechert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> 
>> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> "Alex Riechert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> [...]
>>> 
>>> 
 doesn't work, neither by booting from the floppy drive (the Mandrake boot
 floppy disk doesn't work at all), nor from the harddisk, sending following
 error message:
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:07
 Anyone out there knowing how to solve this problem?
>>> 
>>> Can you try to see if required modules are correctly loaded just before
>>> this to happen? Watch for messages beginning with "Loading module" and
>>> verify that your scsi adapter, sd_mod and reiserfs and correctly loaded..
>> 
>> Well, no "Loading module" message at all! What do I have to do to load
>> these modules?
> 
> 
> 03:07 is /dev/hda7 so you don't need scsi modules; either you need the
> reiserfs modules (if you / is on a reiserfs partition) or the root device
> parameter is not correct..
> 
> The best would be to boot the rescue to try and understand what your
> system needs to mount the root device..

/ is a reiserfs partion (/dev/hda7 / reiserfs defaults 1 1)

So how can I force Linux to load the reiserfs module during 
the booting? Or which root device parameters could be wrong 
(could you look up my fstab and lilo.conf in my original 
message)?

Thanks,

Alex





Re: [Cooker] control-center - can't find GdkPixbuf (on rebuild)

2001-03-23 Thread Frederic Crozat

Dans l'article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Vadim
Plessky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :


> When I rebuild control-center SRPM, I get following error:

My mistake :
control-center needs gnome-vfs-devel installed..
(it was the reverse previously..)

It will be corrected in next releases of  control-center and gnome-vfs
packages..

BTW, the error message about GdkPixbuf in control-center is a bad copy/paste from 
GNOME authors :))

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] Can't boot Traktopel

2001-03-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"Alex Riechert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> 
> > "Alex Riechert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [...]
> >
> >> doesn't work, neither by booting from the floppy drive (the Mandrake boot
> >> floppy disk doesn't work at all), nor from the harddisk, sending following
> >> error message:
> >>VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
> >>Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:07
> >> Anyone out there knowing how to solve this problem?
> > Can you try to see if required modules are correctly loaded just before
> > this to happen? Watch for messages beginning with "Loading module" and
> > verify that your scsi adapter, sd_mod and reiserfs and correctly loaded..
> 
> Well, no "Loading module" message at all! What do I have to do to load
> these modules?

03:07 is /dev/hda7 so you don't need scsi modules; either you need the
reiserfs modules (if you / is on a reiserfs partition) or the root device
parameter is not correct..

The best would be to boot the rescue to try and understand what your
system needs to mount the root device..



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Daniel Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > (1) We assume that when you want a server installed, that most probably
> > > means that you want it activated because you will use it ;
> > Not necessarily. The assumption was not 100% valid because the logic is:
> > when I install something it doesn't mean that I want it to run right
> > away. For example:
> 
> I agree with all points tha Prana made. Services should only be
> started when they are PROPERLY and SECURELY configured.  Let the
> user decide when that is, not the OS.

They are automatically started after reboot, not after installation of
package.



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!

2001-03-23 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Prana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


[...]

> The installer also needs improvement. It crashes a lot. See the
> frustrated people in newsgroup alt.os.linux.mandrake. People there need
> help too, and some of them are getting frustrated because the installer
> crashes. I hope the next 8.0 won't crash at all. Using perl for install
> is already a bad choice, in my humblest opinion (this part is only my
> opinion from my experience). At least we can work together to make a

Yeah, you're right : it probably crashes because it uses Perl.

We are in the process of rewriting it in 30% assembly, 45% pascal, and 25%
lambda-prolog.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




[Cooker] test

2001-03-23 Thread Vadim Plessky


Is Cooker list ok?
Latest message I received dated by Wed.21
 
-- 

Vadim Plessky
http://kde2.newmail.ru  (English)
http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html  (Russian)
Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it!
http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html





[Cooker] control-center - can't find GdkPixbuf (on rebuild)

2001-03-23 Thread Vadim Plessky


When I rebuild control-center SRPM, I get following error:

 # rpm --rebuild control-center-1.4.0-1mdk.src.rpm

 checking for getline... yes
checking for X11/extensions/xf86misc.h... yes
checking for GdkPixbuf library >= 0.7.0... found
checking for esd-config... /usr/bin/esd-config
checking for ESD - version >= 0.2.5... yes
checking for imlib-config... /usr/bin/imlib-config
checking for IMLIB - version >= 1.8.2... yes
checking for gnome-vfs library >= 0.9... ./configure: gnome-vfs-config:
 
command not found
./configure: gnome-vfs-config: command not found
configure: error: Did not find GdkPixbuf installed
îÅ×ÅÒÎÙÊ ËÏÄ ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÔÁ ÉÚ /usr/src/RPM/tmp/rpm-tmp.29400 (%build)
#
---
# rpm -qa | grep gdk
gdk-pixbuf-xlib-0.10.1-1mdk
gdk-pixbuf-gnomecanvas-0.10.1-1mdk
gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.10.1-1mdk
gdk-pixbuf-0.10.1-1mdk
gdk-pixbuf-devel-0.10.1-1mdk

-

>From other side, I can't install (compile) gnome-vfs, as it needs 
control-center:

# rpm --rebuild gnome-vfs-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm
õÓÔÁÎÁ×ÌÉ×ÁÀ gnome-vfs-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm
ÏÛÉÂËÁ: failed build dependencies:
control-center-devel ÎÕÖÅÎ ÄÌÑ gnome-vfs-1.0-1mdk

Pls advise how to overcome this cyclic dependency.

// cc: me directly, as for some reason I don't have any message from Cooker 
list from Thursday. 
-- 

Vadim Plessky
http://kde2.newmail.ru  (English)
http://kde2.newmail.ru/index_rus.html  (Russian)
Do you have Arial font installed? Just test it!
http://kde2.newmail.ru/font_test_arial.html





[Cooker] some errors in menus

2001-03-23 Thread Pablo Saratxaga

Kaixo!

- Forwarded message from olivier  -

[...]

Quelques erreurs en passant:
msgid "Qt Desinger" #error (devrait etre Designer)

#. Menu description for usr/lib/menu/rxvt
msgid ""
"A version of the rxvt terminal with support for Tranditional Chinese, "
#error (devrait etre Traditional)

[...]

- End forwarded message -

-- 
Ki ça vos våye bén,
Pablo Saratxaga

http://www.srtxg.easynet.be/PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975




Re: [Cooker] errors; please help

2001-03-23 Thread Andreas Dolfen



ok! as far as grub is concerned i know 
know.
 init=/bin/bash rw
 
andreas
 


Re: [Cooker] MandrakeUpdate gone

2001-03-23 Thread Civileme

On Friday 23 March 2001 04:27, you wrote:
> --- Vincent Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am I missing something ?  I've YET to be able to get rpmdrake
> > to work,
>
> Mandrake Update worked better than rpmdrake. Not perfect but
> better.:)
> This make no sense to throw away better for worse to try to make
> worse better. Make more sense to make better even better by
> adding more functions or keep it working as same.
>
> > Check  the ones you want to install, click the  "install
> > marked" button, and
> > off it goes.
> >
> > Vinny
>
> yes, now try same with http://ftp
> it can not do it.
> some people need http access.
>
> > On Monday 19 March 2001 23:55, you wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 06:33:19PM +0100, Frederic Lepied
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > Gary Chisholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > Quick question,
> > > > >
> > > > > Since MandrakeUpdate is gone what can I use to do remote
> >
> > updates of RPM
> >
> > > > > Packages
> > > >
> > > > rpmdrake
> > >
> > > Bwa ha ha ha!  Who's got a Cray to run that thing?  Even on
> >
> > my 800MHz
> >
> > > Athlon it takes literally minutes to get it going.  On my
> >
> > PIII 600MHz
> >
> > > I gave up before it got up and running.  I am sure we all
> >
> > here don't
> >
> > > have close to GHz machines.  I feel sorry for the poor
> >
> > bastard who is
> >
> > > still running a 2 or 3 hundred MHz PII.
> > >
> > > b.
>
> Many people still use P166 with 64MB RAM max!!
> (many, many HP systems sold like that on desktops everywhere)
> They not run KDE2 or Rdrak.
> Apt could work for everybody.
>

The success of apt-get has more to do with the very careful management of deb 
packages than with anything in the apt-get design except that it basically 
forces some of that discipline.  In the time-sensitive bazaar of packages and 
package contributors for this distro, such a level of management is 
definitely a wishlist itme for when we are as rich and hated as Microsoft .-)

Anyway, the packages in Cooker are apt-get capable, but they definitely are 
not debs.

Civileme/QA




[Cooker] What is in MandrakeFreq ?

2001-03-23 Thread Nicolas Pomarede



Hello,

I saw the new MandrakeFreq ISO is available on various mirror sites. Could
someone tell me what is its content ? Is there a kind of 'ls -lR'
available somewhere that lists all the packages included ?

Also, I have MDK 7.2 installed, does MandrakeFreq contains usefull stuffs
(ie. more recent) for me, or is it just for 7.0 and 7.1 users who wish to
upgrade to 7.2 level ?

Thanks for any clarifications on what it is this ISO (also, is there a
place when package can be accessed directly, without having to download
the hole iso ?)



Nicolas Pomarede   e-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"It said uses Windows 95 or better, so I loaded Linux!"
"In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates ?"





[Cooker] Turboprint--Test results

2001-03-23 Thread Civileme

We tried it after reading the discussion.

It prints with quality competitive with the GIMP Print facility on its own 
test pages.

When sent an arbitrary file (the photo file we use to test printers), we get 
a segfault.

TurboPrint isn't going to be recommended for the commercial CDs of this 
release--Looks promising but not quite ready.  Of course it is not free 
software, so it cannot be in the downloadable CDs.  We'll keep watching.

Civileme/QA




[Cooker] errors; please help

2001-03-23 Thread Andreas Dolfen



hi,
i installed the cooker again. installing on ext2 
partition as / containing /boot. so the kernel does not complain about finding 
the root fs.
but know it get the messages 
... respawning to fast. disabling for 5 minutes 
...
what can i do?installing mdk7.2 works 
perfectly.
and another question. i used lilo but today i 
installed grub. with lilo i could use command
linux init=/bin/bash
how make grub do the same?
many thx in advance
andreas


[Cooker] Content of mirors

2001-03-23 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Who's in charge of mirror at mandrakesoft ?
How is it possible that some mirrors, as rsync.proxad.net, have more
content than primary mirrors (sunsite.uoi.no or sunet.se) ? They have sparc
& alpha packages, for instance.
-- 
Guillaume Rousse

Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will.
O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist.