RE: [Cooker] Early Comments on MDK 8.2 Beta

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 I can also add that key KDE developers do no accept Bug Report against
KDE
 2.2 branch - as it's supposed to be closed.
 

Key developers may do what they want. Distributions have there user base
that they must maintain. 
 
 I second back idea of installing KDE3 and KDE2 in parallel in upcoming
LM
 7.2
 Even if KDE3 is not ready, you can install KDE3 Beta2 in parallel to
KDE2
 Stable, and allow users to test it and send bug reports to the KDE
team.

This needs cleanup of KDE3. Current hack of setting KDEHOME screws up
KDE2 applications started out of KDE3. And menu methods for KDE3 are
still using .kde/ and not .kde3/ as user prefix.

KDE3 has to be recompiled with KDEHOME defaulting to ~/.kde3, menu
methods fixed then you can really use them in parallel (and even run
KDE2 apps out of KDE3 and vice versa).

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] XFS is needet! [Was: AbiWord]

2002-01-30 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach »Yura Gusev« am 2002-01-29 um 21:24:31 -0500 :
 No i dont see any logic in this statement.
 
 What I'm meaning to say:  There might be some uses of any software, but
 I'd say for the majority of the target audience (home users), any software
 is not needed. So it should be removed.
 (or even better replace any software with software)
 
 Do you agree Alexander?

Well, to some extent, yes, I agree.  In a perfect world, only software
which is actually needed should be installed.  If I don't need a given
software, why should it be installed?

Another example of bloat:  I use grub as my bootloader.  This means I
don't use lilo.  But when I try to rpm -e lilo, I get an error message
saying that lilo is required by basesystem.  IIRC, there's some stuff in
the lilo package which is also needed by grub.  But anyhow, because I
don't do --nodeps removes, I'm forced to have 2 bootloaders of which I
only use 1.  And maybe some users don't even need lilo when they are
using this dos linux starter.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] Early Comments on MDK 8.2 Beta

2002-01-30 Thread Vadim Plessky

On Tuesday 29 January 2002 20:26, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
|   Timothy R. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|
|  Now, a few opinions:
|   
|  1.) I'm not sure if you are planning this or not, but have you
|considered delaying the distro until the release of KDE 3.0? While you
|might still want to keep KDE 2.2.2 the default desktop, you could
|either have an option to install KDE 3.0 instead, or a way to install
|them side-by-side (i.e. perhaps install KDE 3 to /opt/kde or vise
|versa). SuSE did something like this in SuSE Linux 7.1.
|
|   Unless what's generally perceived, we mostly never plan release
|   date according to third party software release dates (the mostly
|   is here because for 7.2 we could have kde-1.99 in), because doing
|   a distro involves many things which are not widely known such as
|   scheduled development cycle, bugfixing cycle, etc. All our
|   releases are 6-month away from each other, with a maximum of
|   1-month delay according to various things including layout of
|   bugfixing.
|
|   As of kde-3.0, I may be wrong but it seems that there is only
|   little to hope from the user side, between kde-2.2.2 and kde-3.0,
|   isn't it?

There is a lot of improovement in KDE 3.0 comparing to KDE 2.2.2
Support for Asian languages is in particluar requires Qt 3.0 and KDE 3.0, 
which uses Qt3.
I can also add that key KDE developers do no accept Bug Report against KDE 
2.2 branch - as it's supposed to be closed.

Other areas where KDE was significantly improoved:
 * Konqueror (and KHTML/LJS in particular)
  - JavaScript engine is re-written
  - CSS has a lot of improovements (better standards compliance)
  - DOM has a lot of improovements
  
Besides, KDE3 (I hope) will have support for SVG (via KSVG module) and will 
even support SVG icons (neither MacOS X nor WinXP has support for SVG icons)
SVG support is somewhat critical on a way to standards-compliant Web 
universe, so it makes sense to upgrade to KDE3 just because of improoved 
(added) SVG support.
Some time ago I claimed that I will develop some SVG icons. Indeed, I did few 
of them - but I was sticked to KDE2 for some time and could not test them in 
KDE3.
BTW:  any chance to see Sodipodi (GNOME application) in upcoming LM 8.2?
I used it for making SVG drawings, and despite some limitations program is 
great, IMHO.  (http://sodipodi.sourceforge.net) 

I second back idea of installing KDE3 and KDE2 in parallel in upcoming LM 7.2
Even if KDE3 is not ready, you can install KDE3 Beta2 in parallel to KDE2 
Stable, and allow users to test it and send bug reports to the KDE team.
More reporting we get, higher chances that next release will be more bug-free.

-- 

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http://kde2.newmail.ru  (English)
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http://kde2.newmail.ru/kde_themes.html
KDE mini-Themes
http://kde2.newmail.ru/themes/




Re: [Cooker] 8.2 SNF feature. and other comments + new bug.

2002-01-30 Thread Randy Welch


4.  Once the httpd-naat is started you can get to the 
initial login screen, but you can't get logged in.  Even 
after setting the password for admin ( via passwd or 
/usr/share/naat/scripts/change-password.pl admin ).  This is 
kind of a show stopper for me in the one application I 
thought I'd try out.  ( Thankfully I bought another disk to 
try the SNF items out ).

 
 there is a problem with the latest mod_auth_external-2.1.14-1mdk.i586.rpm
 package.
 
 One should use the mod_auth_external-2.1.12-1mdk.i586.rpm one from the
 8.1 contrib directory.
 


This works.  I tried mod_auth_external-2.1.14-3 from the 
latest cooker, but that didn't seem to work.  I got the php* 
and mod_auth_external from 8.1 and all is happy.  Thanks.


New bug though.


The time restriction in SquidGuard are acting strangely?  I 
have a time restriction setup from 19:00-23:59 pst.  When I 
try to access through the proxy within that time period I 
get rejected because of time restriction.


I do see this in the squidGuard log:

2002-01-29 22:57:13 [2609] sourceblock timerestriction 
missing active content, set inactive



-randy






Re: [Cooker] Cooker Mouse Support

2002-01-30 Thread Quel Qun

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 21:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have a Microsoft Intellimouse and it is supported only as a serial 
 mouse but not as a PS2 connection.  I prefer to use it connected as PS2, 
 is support for that forthcoming?
 
 Also, is it possible to set up either MCC or KDE control center so that 
 button mapping for 3 button mice is supported, currently only 2 button 
 mouse are supported in the mapping controls (and in MCC there are NO 
 mapping options at all that I can see).  It would also be nice if the 
 scroll buttons' click feature could be set to act as a double click in 
 the mapping setup.
 
 Mouse support is good but just a few more options would be better. 
  Anyone else had these experiences??
 
Jason,

Many people have been using a PS2 wheel mouse for years,
I'd say to make a rhyme from tail to ears

How did you come to these conclusions? Did you use mousedrake, did you
try to read at least some sort of documentation? Maybe man mouse is not
the best part to start with, though ;-)

mousedrake gives you a 'generic ps2 wheel mouse' choice. Did you try
this? You should... I think.

I dislike double-click. One of the rare things I prefer in Windows is
that a single click can be set to start an app. I wish Gnome could let
me do that (maybe it can). Just for info, the middle button has been
used for ages to paste in unix like OSes. Just highlight something with
the mouse and paste it anywhere else with the middle button. One of the
simple reasons I switched. 

I hope your feedback will be heard. 
=-=
kk1






Re: [Cooker] 8.2 SNF feature. and other comments + new bug.

2002-01-30 Thread Randy Welch


 
 The time restriction in SquidGuard are acting strangely?  I have a time 
 restriction setup from 19:00-23:59 pst.  When I try to access through 
 the proxy within that time period I get rejected because of time 
 restriction.
 


Ignore this.  Always helps to read the first line about 
setting up allowed lans...  *sigh*.


-randy







[Cooker] Mouse usually does not work on console after exiting X

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

PS/2 Microsoft Intellimouse  with wheel configured as such - imps/2 in
both gpm and X. Usually (or probably always, did not check every time)
mouse does not work on console after startx/exiting session. Mouse works
just fine in X all the time. From what I see in console - cursor jumps
to upper part of screen and remains there whatever I do - it looks like
gpm suddenly thinks mouse is non-wheel mouse. Service gpm restart
returns things to normal.

It has been so for a long time. Just forgot about it usually :-)

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] evolution hanging in latest cooker

2002-01-30 Thread Brice Figureau

Hi,

I encounter the same trouble a few days ago.
It seemed that it came from the evolution-executive-summary component.
The only solution we found was to edit the '/usr/bin/killev' script,
extract the executive-summary part, launch evolution (which will block
forever), then kill the executive summary, and then voila...

Maybe evolution was stuck in trying to access a website somewhere to get
its RSS/RDF file for the executive.

I wasn't able to find where are stored the executive summary
configuration, so I couldn't change them to 'more secure' ones.

Hope this helps.

Brice

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 22:31, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 I have cooker updated as of this morning, including glibc and kernel
 and I seem to be having an issue with evolution.  It starts up mostly
 normal like but just before painting the main widget it hangs.  I have
 tried removing ~/evolution and also rebooting and the problem still
 seems to persist.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 b.
 
 
 -- 
 Brian J. Murrell
 
 






Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] lm_sensors-2.6.2-4mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Christian Bricart

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:01:45AM +0300, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 [..]
 What's wrong with
 
 cat  /etc/modules
 i2c-i801
 adm1025
 eeprom
 ^D

Hmm .. but with the /etc/sysconfig/ approach it would be possible to
load the sensor modules only when sensors is enabled in chkconfig 


Christian

-- 
Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have
 everyone else mirror it.- Linus Torvalds




[Cooker] Re: lm_sensors-2.6.2-4mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Oden Eriksson

Christian Bricart writes: 

 On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:01:45AM +0300, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 [..]
 What's wrong with 
 
 cat  /etc/modules
 i2c-i801
 adm1025
 eeprom
 ^D
 
 Hmm .. but with the /etc/sysconfig/ approach it would be possible to
 load the sensor modules only when sensors is enabled in chkconfig 

Yes, this makes more sense to me :) 

No, seriousely... I like this idea. 

 --
Kindest regards // Oden Eriksson
Deserve-IT Networks/HFE Systems 





Re: [Cooker] Supermount and bootdisk

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:05:02 +0300
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  As an addendum the same applies in rpmdrake if installating software
 from a
  cd source be it the installation cds or an added cd.
  
 
 What exactly happens? There was a problem in urpmi that it could not
 eject supermounted medium (since we switched to none for device). It
 should be fixed in the latest urpmi. Or do you mean some other problem?
 
 

With supermount and urpmi-3.2-5

Using rpmdrake several pkgs selected for install.
It is requested that I insert Installation CD1.
I insert the CD and click OK.
The following error is returned:

 'eject: unable to find or open device for: 1 '


Charles





Re: [Cooker] XFS is needet! [Was: AbiWord]

2002-01-30 Thread Pixel

Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Another example of bloat:  I use grub as my bootloader.  This means I
 don't use lilo.  But when I try to rpm -e lilo, I get an error message
 saying that lilo is required by basesystem.  IIRC, there's some stuff in
 the lilo package which is also needed by grub.  But anyhow, because I
 don't do --nodeps removes, I'm forced to have 2 bootloaders of which I
 only use 1.  And maybe some users don't even need lilo when they are
 using this dos linux starter.

remove package basesystem and this limitation will go away...




[Cooker] Re: urpmi loops on RPM not found - please, fix it finally.

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Now, when urpmi is almost perfect, it is even more annoying. 

What the problem it tries to access your hard disk all the time (I suppose this
is a zip or jaz (since you mount it on /mnt/hd)).

 {pts/1}% LANGUAGE=en ll /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake
 ls: cannot read symbolic link /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS.cooker:
 Invalid
 argument
 ls: cannot read symbolic link /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2:
 Invalid argument
 total 108
 drwxr-xr-x2 500  ntools   4096 ñÎ× 29 09:20 base/
 drwxr-xr-x5 500  ntools   4096 ñÎ× 28 23:19 mdkinst/
 drwxr-xr-x2 500  ntools  94208 ñÎ× 29 09:18 RPMS/
 lrwxrwxrwx1 500  ntools 22 ñÎ× 29 17:07 RPMS2
 lrwxrwxrwx1 500  ntools  4 óÅÎ  8 14:28 RPMS.cooker
 drwxr-xr-x3 500  ntools   4096 ñÎ× 18 14:06 share/

Or you have a problem on your drive ? Do you use supermount ?

François.

 If RPM is not there, it is not there. 

Yes, but why do you have error using ls ?

François.




Re: [Cooker] ATI Radeon 7500 GLXGears Scores

2002-01-30 Thread Roger

um some facts left out:

1) @ was resolution desktop resolution?
2) @ what desktop bit depth?
3) was the glxgears in windowed mode or fullscreen?

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 00:21, Ryan Little wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 17:35, Charles A Edwards wrote:
  On 29 Jan 2002 17:11:47 -0500
  Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi Guys,
   
   Can you guys humour me, and for those of you w/ Radeon 7500 cards could
   you please post some glxgears FPS scores, along w/ processor speed and
   memory amount?
   
   I'm trying to see if it is a bit faster then my Geforce 2 GTS 32MB, and
   if it is I'm leaving for ATI:)
   
 
  As to actual scores 32mb geforce2-athlon650-384mb ram 1500fbs
  32mb radeon ddr-duron800-458mb ram 500fbs
  64mb geforce3-xp1900-512mb ram 3000fbs
  64mb radeon ddr-tbird1000ghz-458mb ram 1000fsb
  
  At the moment the radeon is broken in XFree.
  4.20 will soon be making its way to the mirrors and is supposed to fix
  that.
  
  Both are good cards and give great performance.
  The radeon works out of the box and of course you know that with nvidia
  you have to rebuild for each new kernel you install. 
  
  
  Charles
  
 
 
 64MB Radeon DDR VIVO and Athlon 1.4GHz w/ 512MB DDR:
 
 Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
 5454 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1090.800 FPS
 5651 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1130.200 FPS
 5649 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1129.800 FPS
 5689 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1137.800 FPS
 5690 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1138.000 FPS
 5690 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1138.000 FPS
 5712 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1142.400 FPS
 
 
 -- 
 Ryan
 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-
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 GCC$/CS d+(d-) s: a? C UL+++ P+++ L+++ E+ W+ N+++ o! ?K w
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[Cooker] HardDrake

2002-01-30 Thread Mattias Dahlberg

Hi,

As I mentioned earlier in a message: While HardDrake's splash screen says
Detecting hardware my screen goes black and I get the blinking cursor in
the top left corner. Some text is flashing by before the screen clears,
but too fast to be able to read it.

Starting HardDrake from the console reveals the following:
Generic VGA (or unknown SVGA)

The system is based around Intel's i815 chipset. I suspect that it is the
X detection that fails, similar to the DrakX problem.

Regards,
Mattias





[Cooker] RE: urpmi loops on RPM not found - please, fix it finally.

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


 Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Now, when urpmi is almost perfect, it is even more annoying.
 
 What the problem it tries to access your hard disk all the time (I suppose
 this
 is a zip or jaz (since you mount it on /mnt/hd)).
 

It is Jaz. It is defined as removable. It is /mnt/hd because I installed from it and 
did not change it since then.

  {pts/1}% LANGUAGE=en ll /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake
  ls: cannot read symbolic link /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS.cooker:
  Invalid
  argument
  ls: cannot read symbolic link /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2:
  Invalid argument
  total 108
  drwxr-xr-x2 500  ntools   4096 ñÎ× 29 09:20 base/
  drwxr-xr-x5 500  ntools   4096 ñÎ× 28 23:19 mdkinst/
  drwxr-xr-x2 500  ntools  94208 ñÎ× 29 09:18 RPMS/
  lrwxrwxrwx1 500  ntools 22 ñÎ× 29 17:07 RPMS2
  lrwxrwxrwx1 500  ntools  4 óÅÎ  8 14:28 RPMS.cooker
  drwxr-xr-x3 500  ntools   4096 ñÎ× 18 14:06 share/
 
 Or you have a problem on your drive ? Do you use supermount ?
 

No I have no problem with it. I have problems with urpmi :-)

 François.
 
  If RPM is not there, it is not there.
 
 Yes, but why do you have error using ls ?
 

I already explained and reported it.

I mirror cooker on another system. I then transfer it to Jaz using

rsync -a --delete /path/to/mirror/cooker/i586/ /jaz/cooker/i586/
eject /jaz
mount /jaz
rsync -a --delete /path/to/mirror/contrib/RPMS/ /jaz/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/

Now the first command also mirrors Mandrake/base/RPMS2 link that is O.K. on original 
system but points to non-existent directory on first media. That is why I get errors 
from ls.

Urpmi checks for correct media by looking at directory. It sees RPMS2 and assumes it 
is second CD. From now on it blindly tries to fetch non-existent RPM.

Francois, it is irrelevant why ls returns an error. There may be thousands reasons why 
your media gets corrupted. But uprmi must not loop indefinitely. If iy cannot find 
required RPM it must tell me so and either quit or go on. This is what happens if you 
have file:// media and does not work with removable:// media.

-andrej




[Cooker] rpmdrake and supermount

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


 
  What exactly happens? There was a problem in urpmi that it could not
  eject supermounted medium (since we switched to none for device).
It
  should be fixed in the latest urpmi. Or do you mean some other
problem?
 
 
 
 With supermount and urpmi-3.2-5
 
 Using rpmdrake several pkgs selected for install.
 It is requested that I insert Installation CD1.
 I insert the CD and click OK.
 The following error is returned:
 
  'eject: unable to find or open device for: 1 '

Could you strace it?

strace -f -o /tmp/foo rpmdrake

then do what you have done. 

-andrej




[Cooker] FW: Andrew Josey: Press Release

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

I guess it is interesting for some people.

-andrej

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 1:27 PM
 To: Zsh hackers list
 Subject: Andrew Josey: Press Release
 
 This is of some interest since you can now see the latest POSIX (IEEE
Std
 1003.1-2001) and Single Unix shell standard, along with the rest of
the
 UNIX spec, online by registering.
 
 pws
 
 --- Forwarded Message
 
 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 05:34:35 GMT
 From: Andrew Josey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Press Release
 
 All
 
 The press release announcement from The Open Group regarding
 completion of the joint revision and the availability of the
 html version of the specification are now online
 at http://www.unix-systems.org/version3/
 
 best regards
 Andrew
 
 - -
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 Austin Group Chair  Apex Plaza,Forbury Road,
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reading,Berks.RG1
1AX,England
 Tel:   +44 118 9508311 ext 2250 Fax: +44 118 9500110
 
 
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Re: [Cooker] RE: urpmi loops on RPM not found - please, fix it finally.

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Urpmi checks for correct media by looking at directory. It sees RPMS2 and
 assumes it is second CD. From now on it blindly tries to fetch non-existent RPM.
 
 
 Francois, it is irrelevant why ls returns an error. There may be thousands
 reasons why your media gets corrupted. But uprmi must not loop indefinitely. If
 iy cannot find required RPM it must tell me so and either quit or go on. This is
 what happens if you have file:// media and does not work with removable://
 media.

I check this point and try to make it clever.

François.




[Cooker] Qtella-0.3.6 at ftp.mandrakesoft.com:/incoming

2002-01-30 Thread Claudio

Hi!
I have just put the latest version of Qtella at:

ftp.mandrakesoft.com:/incoming

Hope to see it in contribs!  :o)

Claudio




RE: [Cooker] Mirrors

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Yves
 Duret
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:40 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mirrors
 
  Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   What the hell is wrong with the mirrors?  I keep changing from
   rsync://ftp.sunet.se:873 to rsync://ftp.uninett.no:873 and back.
If
 I do
   get connected I get something like:
 
  [...]
 
  thanx to report this. it should have been fixed a few hours ago.
 
 It is not. At leat for ftp.sunet.se. I cannot connect to
ftp.uninett.no
 

This is still not fixed. As of 13:42 Moscow time (11:42 CET).

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Re: evolution hanging in latest cooker

2002-01-30 Thread Brice Figureau

Edit /usr/bin/killev and put $debug=1 at the beginning.
Run it (without evo running otherwise it'll kill it), then grab the
first four lines (which are related to executive-summary),
then launch evo, wait for it to block.

Here are the four kills for my system (it may depends of the system
you're running because killev uses oaf to retrieve the components
names...):

killall -9 evolution-executive-summary
killall -9 lt-evolution-executive-summary
killall -9 evolution-execut
killall -9 lt-evolution-exe

Then paste them in a shell.
Should destroy the bad component.

Brice

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 11:31, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:57:47AM +0100, Brice Figureau wrote:
  Hi,
 
 Hello,
 
  I encounter the same trouble a few days ago.
  It seemed that it came from the evolution-executive-summary component.
 
 That would look right here too.
 
  The only solution we found was to edit the '/usr/bin/killev' script,
  extract the executive-summary part,
 
 Which was which part.  I experimented but could not isolate it.
 
  launch evolution (which will block
  forever), then kill the executive summary, and then voila...
 
 From the testing I did do this looks like it will work.  I just need
 to know how to isolate the exec-summary part.
 
  Maybe evolution was stuck in trying to access a website somewhere to get
  its RSS/RDF file for the executive.
 
 That is what I was thinking.  Bad design if so.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
 It does, thanx.
 
 b.
 
 
 -- 
 Brian J. Murrell
 
 
 






[Cooker] Re: evolution hanging in latest cooker

2002-01-30 Thread Brian J. Murrell

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:57:47AM +0100, Brice Figureau wrote:
 Hi,

Hello,

 I encounter the same trouble a few days ago.
 It seemed that it came from the evolution-executive-summary component.

That would look right here too.

 The only solution we found was to edit the '/usr/bin/killev' script,
 extract the executive-summary part,

Which was which part.  I experimented but could not isolate it.

 launch evolution (which will block
 forever), then kill the executive summary, and then voila...

From the testing I did do this looks like it will work.  I just need
to know how to isolate the exec-summary part.

 Maybe evolution was stuck in trying to access a website somewhere to get
 its RSS/RDF file for the executive.

That is what I was thinking.  Bad design if so.

 Hope this helps.

It does, thanx.

b.


-- 
Brian J. Murrell




[Cooker] Blackbox

2002-01-30 Thread Marcel Pol


Hello,

After more then a year a new version of blackbox is released.
Could it be upgraded?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/blackboxwm


--
Marcel Pol
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux 2.4.17-10mdksmp, up 3:58





Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and supermount

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:21:17 +0300
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
  With supermount and urpmi-3.2-5
  
  Using rpmdrake several pkgs selected for install.
  It is requested that I insert Installation CD1.
  I insert the CD and click OK.
  The following error is returned:
  
   'eject: unable to find or open device for: 1 '
 
 Could you strace it?
 
 strace -f -o /tmp/foo rpmdrake
 
 then do what you have done. 

 
 [root@localhost charles]# strace -f -o /tmp/foo rpmdrake
Process 3061 attached
Process 3062 attached
Process 3061 suspended
Process 3061 resumed
Process 3062 detached
Process 3061 detached
Process 3063 attached
Process 3063 detached
Process 3064 attached
Process 3064 detached
Process 3065 attached
Process 3065 detached
Process 3066 attached
Process 3066 detached
Process 3067 attached
Process 3068 attached
Process 3069 attached
Process 3070 attached
Process 3069 suspended
Process 3071 attached
Process 3070 suspended
Process 3072 attached
Process 3072 detached
Process 3073 attached
Process 3073 detached
Process 3074 attached
Process 3074 detached
Process 3075 attached
Process 3075 detached
extracting bind-9.2.0-2mdk.i586
Process 3076 attached
Process 3077 attached
Process 3071 suspended
Process 3077 detached
Process 3071 resumed
Process 3076 detached
Process 3070 resumed
Process 3071 detached
Process 3069 resumed
Process 3070 detached
Process 3078 attached
Process 3069 suspended
Process 3079 attached
Process 3078 suspended
Process 3080 attached
Process 3080 detached
Process 3081 attached
Process 3081 detached
Process 3082 attached
Process 3082 detached
Process 3083 attached
Process 3083 detached
extracting bind-9.2.0-2mdk.i586
Process 3084 attached
Process 3085 attached
Process 3084 detached
Process 3085 detached
Process 3078 resumed
Process 3079 detached
Process 3069 resumed
Process 3078 detached
Process 3069 detached
Process 3086 attached
Process 3087 attached
Process 3086 suspended
Process 3088 attached
Process 3089 attached
Process 3090 attached
Process 3090 detached
Process 3087 suspended

This is where the the process stops.
rpmdrake window is showing only:
  Install in progress...
  You can see the installation state below.
No progress bar or installation state.

I allowed it 10min and there was no additional output.


Charles

  







Re: [Cooker] rpm-4.0.3-0.36mdk segfault

2002-01-30 Thread Han

huug ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 [root@huug2001 src]# rpm -e --repackage curl-7.9.3-1mdk
 Segmentatie fout

Inderdaad, wat een stomme foutmelding: 

rm -rf /etc/sysconfig/i18n  reboot


Groetjes, Han.
-- 
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software




RE: [Cooker] rpmdrake and supermount

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
  [root@localhost charles]# strace -f -o /tmp/foo rpmdrake
 Process 3061 attached
...
 Process 3087 suspended
 
 This is where the the process stops.
 rpmdrake window is showing only:
   Install in progress...
   You can see the installation state below.
 No progress bar or installation state.
 
 I allowed it 10min and there was no additional output.
 

The additional output in file /tmp/foo. But if you got no error message
about eject it is probably useless anyway. I'll try to check it @home;
the only problem is to find something on removable media :-)

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Blackbox

2002-01-30 Thread Han

Marcel Pol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 After more then a year a new version of blackbox is released.
 Could it be upgraded?
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/blackboxwm

This is not blackbox, this is blackboxwm. It is a codefork, just like
fluxbox.


Groetjes, Han.
-- 
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software




[Cooker] kde sound back up with latest kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

I don't know why, but I have sound back in kde with 2.4.17-11.

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Re: [Cooker] galeon unstable with today's cooker

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

It seems to be at its funkiest after a reboot. If I
close it and then open konqueror and go to a website,
then reopen galeon. It appears to work fine
afterwards. strange.

--- SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 running from the command line it appears to work
 again. I don't know why it acted so crazy but it did
 give the following errors:
 
 ** WARNING **:
 `/home/sczjd/.kde/share/icons/favicons/' does not
 exist or is not a valid image file
 
 
 ** WARNING **: `www' does not exist or is not a
 valid
 image file
 
 ** WARNING **: `www' does not exist or is not a
 valid
 image file
 
 ** WARNING **: `www' does not exist or is not a
 valid
 image file
 
 ** WARNING **: `www' does not exist or is not a
 valid
 image file
 
 --- SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am having problems with galeon stability after
 the
  latest updates. In aprticular, the websites are
 not
  completing their download. Konqueror works fine so
  it
  is not an internet or website related problem. I
  have
  also had problems with every web site I tried.
  
  
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[Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

I am still having problems with my Dell Inspiron 8000
that are APIC related. Please disable it in the
production kernel. I am currently running 2.4.17-11mdk.

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake and supermount

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:34:43 +0300
Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
   [root@localhost charles]# strace -f -o /tmp/foo rpmdrake
  Process 3061 attached
 ...
  Process 3087 suspended
  
 

 
 The additional output in file /tmp/foo. But if you got no error message
 about eject 


It never even requested that the cd so there would be no eject error.

it is probably useless anyway. I'll try to check it @home;
 the only problem is to find something on removable media :-)

I can understand that.
I normally delete the cd sources but this was a quick install of the 8.2 b1 updated to 
current cooker to see how Xfree-4.2.0-2 was treating the
Radeon so there were several pkgs that I wished to go back and install 
from the cds. (-:


Charles


 





[Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

On oone system /tmp is mounted as tmpfs. I do not remember I did it; I
did play with msec.

Is it done by msec or new install defaults to tmpfs?

TIA

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Etherape-0.8.2-4mdk install error

2002-01-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

huug [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In file /usr/lib/menu/etherape, at (or in the definition that ends at) line 1:
 [...]ing  title=Etherape  longtitle=Graphical network viewer  
icon=monitoring_section.png  command=/usr/bin/etherape
 [...] ^
 Expected: =.

thanks, fixing.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Pixel

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On oone system /tmp is mounted as tmpfs. I do not remember I did it; I
 did play with msec.
 
 Is it done by msec or new install defaults to tmpfs?

AFAIR if you choose clean /tmp, you have tmpfs




[Cooker] Latest Mozilla and baby URL icons

2002-01-30 Thread Robert Fox

I like the new feature under the latest Mozilla which adds a small icon
before the URL in the bookmarks when I surf to a website which supports
it.  Unfortunately, it appears to forget this frequently and I lose the
small icons in the bookmark field - but after surfing to the said site -
it reappears.  Is this a Mozilla problem or a Mandrake implementation of
Mozilla problem?

Thx,
R.Fox







Re: [Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Pixel

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

 When it has changed?

from DrakX ChangeLog:

2001/12/17  Pixel  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* fs.pm, any.pm, install2.pm, bootloader.pm: clean_tmp now means using
tmpfs

 
 /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime:
 
 #Clean up Tmp.
 if [ -n $CLEAN_TMP ]  [ $CLEAN_TMP -ge 1 ];then

[...]

 looks sort of redundant in this case ...

not really, it's needed for backward compatibility, and it's different (esp.
it works with 2.2)




RE: [Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On oone system /tmp is mounted as tmpfs. I do not remember I did it;
I
  did play with msec.
 
  Is it done by msec or new install defaults to tmpfs?
 
 AFAIR if you choose clean /tmp, you have tmpfs

When it has changed?

/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime:

#Clean up Tmp.
if [ -n $CLEAN_TMP ]  [ $CLEAN_TMP -ge 1 ];then
( 
TEXPR=! -ctime -$CLEAN_TMP
echo -n Clean-up /tmp directory: 
cd /tmp  \
find . -xdev \
$TEXPR \
! -name . \
! \( -name lost+found -uid 0 \) \
! \( -name quota.user -uid 0 \) \
! \( -name quota.group -uid 0 \) \
... bla bla bla ...

looks sort of redundant in this case ...

-andrej




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] curl-7.9.3-2mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:16:02 +0100 (CET)
François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --=-=-=
 Name: curl Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 7.9.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 2mdk  Build Date: Wed Jan 30 11:32:58 2002
 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
 Group   : Networking/Other  Source RPM: (none)
 Size: 525283   License: MIT
 Packager: François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL : http://curl.haxx.se/
 Summary : Gets a file from a FTP, GOPHER or HTTP server.
 Description :
 
 
 * Wed Jan 30 2002 François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7.9.3-2mdk
 
 - added patch from curl author to fix SEGV on some case,
   until next release is out.
 

Just installed and tested.
Patch does keep rpmdrake from segfaulting when adding a cooker source.

Thanks


   Charles
 







RE: [Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

  When it has changed?
 
 from DrakX ChangeLog:
 
 2001/12/17  Pixel  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   * fs.pm, any.pm, install2.pm, bootloader.pm: clean_tmp now means
using
   tmpfs


Ah!

 
 
  /etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime:
 
  #Clean up Tmp.
  if [ -n $CLEAN_TMP ]  [ $CLEAN_TMP -ge 1 ];then
 
 [...]
 
  looks sort of redundant in this case ...
 
 not really, it's needed for backward compatibility, and it's different
(esp.
 it works with 2.2)

You mean if I ever boot with 2.2 and tmpfs I get an error and no tmp?




Re: [Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Pixel

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You mean if I ever boot with 2.2 and tmpfs I get an error and no tmp?

yes




[Cooker] SUB cooker

2002-01-30 Thread Peter R. Brinkler







[Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

rcc wrote:
 
 David D. Huff Jr. wrote:
 
  Xanadu wrote:
 
  On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:34:18 -0500, David D. Huff Jr. wrote:
 
   After all these releases, why did Mandrake change their style of
boot
   screen?
  
   The new one looks terrible, it reminds me of an 8 bit dos
application
   booting on an 8088 or 8086.
  
   If you read the display quickly it would be easy to imagine you
were
   booting into Madefordos v. 81.0 !! :((
 
  You're saying the dumb things where unreadable text is sitting
under the
  MDK logo?  If so I freakin' hated it myself.  Don't use it.  I
still use
  Aurora, but I use:
 
  Aurora-Monitor-Traditional-WsLib-8.2-18mdk
 
  Install that one.  It;'s more like the mormal Linux bootup where it
shows
  each service individlay with a OK or FAILED status.  Much nicer...
 
  P.S.
  I forget if you have to do this after installing that package but:
 
  ln -s /lib/aurora/Monitors/Traditional-WsLib /etc/aurora/Monitor
 
  That makes it work.  :-)
 
  Actually I was speaking of the initial install boot, if you think
the
  lilo or grub standard display is pitiful, you'll absolutely want to
barf
  when you boot the Mandrake 8.2 beta1 install disk.
 
 you mean that whitish box with that greyish font that reminds one of
C64
 and Atari800 times?
 
 -- rcc
Ahh, yup.




RE: [Cooker] RE: urpmi loops on RPM not found - please, fix it finally.

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
  Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Urpmi checks for correct media by looking at directory. It sees
RPMS2
 and
   assumes it is second CD. From now on it blindly tries to fetch
non-
 existent RPM.
  
  
   Francois, it is irrelevant why ls returns an error. There may be
 thousands
   reasons why your media gets corrupted. But uprmi must not loop
 indefinitely. If
   iy cannot find required RPM it must tell me so and either quit or
go on.
 This is
   what happens if you have file:// media and does not work with
 removable://
   media.
 
  I check this point and try to make it clever.
 
 Does urpmi ask you to change disk or not ?
 

No.

 or does it loop forever ?
 

Yes.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] RE: urpmi loops on RPM not found - please, fix it finally.

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) writes:

 Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Urpmi checks for correct media by looking at directory. It sees RPMS2 and
  assumes it is second CD. From now on it blindly tries to fetch non-existent RPM.
  
  
  Francois, it is irrelevant why ls returns an error. There may be thousands
  reasons why your media gets corrupted. But uprmi must not loop indefinitely. If
  iy cannot find required RPM it must tell me so and either quit or go on. This is
  what happens if you have file:// media and does not work with removable://
  media.
 
 I check this point and try to make it clever.

Does urpmi ask you to change disk or not ?

or does it loop forever ?

François.




[Cooker] Strange BASH problem

2002-01-30 Thread Robert Fox

It's not really a problem, but lately (as of the latest Cooker) - when I
open a BASH terminal under KDE - then I su to root - do some stuff and
type exit, there is an echo of the word exit on the screen and an
unusual pause of several seconds before it returns to the normal use
account - and when I type exit from the normal windows there is another
pause.

This does not happen under a normal ASCII screen (Ctrl-Alt-F1) outside
of the X server.

Strange.

R.Fox







RE: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

And reply to this is even more amusing :-)

===

Yea, we don't want no slick and shiny boot screens. After all this is
the 
OS for true men (and women), people who have witnessed the rise of the 
transistor. Or maybe this is a nasty trick from the marketing department
to 
get at big company buyers, reminding them of those happy drunken nights
in 
front of a 64K machine when one had time to kill a sixpack while the
soft 
loaded from tapes.

Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
default boot timeout to 10s?

-- rcc




RE: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Robert Fox

I hate to say it (as much as I LOVE Mandrake) but there is some truth
here.  Actually, I find the SuSE boot screen one of the best looking . .
(please don't flame!) - I still use Mandrake solely!

It's actually a matter of taste - but most agree the existingboot screen
in Mandrake B2 is not the best!

Cheers!



On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 14:24, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 And reply to this is even more amusing :-)
 
 ===
 
 Yea, we don't want no slick and shiny boot screens. After all this is
 the 
 OS for true men (and women), people who have witnessed the rise of the 
 transistor. Or maybe this is a nasty trick from the marketing department
 to 
 get at big company buyers, reminding them of those happy drunken nights
 in 
 front of a 64K machine when one had time to kill a sixpack while the
 soft 
 loaded from tapes.
 
 Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
 default boot timeout to 10s?
 
 -- rcc
 






RE: [Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  You mean if I ever boot with 2.2 and tmpfs I get an error and no
tmp?
 
 yes

Bad.

One way is to 

ln -s ../var/tmp tmp
mount -t tmpfs /var/tmp

This way we at least have tmp on /var not on root.

-andrej





Re: [Cooker] I would like a *working* pascal compiler

2002-01-30 Thread Stew Benedict

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:10:51 +0100
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ainsi parlait Geoffrey Lee :
  On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 05:50:28PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
   As fpc seems utterly broke, i'm trying for two days now to have a working
   gpc package in mandrake. Howerver, it's a gcc family members, and is
   *not* (according to its maintainers) compatible with 2.96 :-(
  
   Proposed solutions are:
   1) add a gpc subpackage to current gcc 2.96 package
   But:
   - it is not established it will work
 
  Wait -- if it's not compatible, how can we add a gpc subpackage to gcc?
 Developpers says it's not compatible, and provided configure script halts 
 with an error message. However, i did some test before using 2.96 libgcc.a 
 lib, it worked.
 
   3) try to build a distinct gcc package, incorporating only gcc runtimes
   libs needed
   But:
   - if will be conflicting with gcc2.95
  
   I tried 3, i have a working gpc package. Should i commit it to contrib
   now ? Opinion welcomed, as i'm getting a bit lost in gcc arcanes... Guys,
   i tought XFree spec was the most complex one, but i'm still puzzled by
   the gcc one :-)
 
  This means, that it won't work on the ppc. :-(
 That's why i'm still unable to decide what is the best (or the less worst) 
 solution.

If it doesn't break gcc2.95, I don't mind if you add it, I suppose we could have a 
sub-package of your gpc which is for x86 with the pieces you need and exclude ppc so 
there is no overlap of files in the PPC install.

I'll know soon enough if it breaks it, as I'm building daily here.

Stew Benedict




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
 default boot timeout to 10s?

No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




[Cooker] DrakConf in today's Cooker

2002-01-30 Thread Mattias Dahlberg

Hi,

As of today some dialogs are opened *behind* DrakConf's main window. I
tried printerdrake and thought it had crashed. I later realized that
windows (like checking packages) had been hiding behind DrakConf. Sadly
there's no way to figure this out without killing DrakConf first.

Regards,
Mattias






[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.4.17.12mdk-1-1mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Mark Logan

Since you guys have a deal with Netraverse now - does the 8.2 kernel
have the Win4Lin patch included?

Thanks,
Mark

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 05:09, Juan Quintela wrote:
 * Tue Jan 29 2002 Juan Quintela [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-1mdk
 
 - ext3 is a module again in up.
 - s/kversion/realversion/, make greps easier.
 - really include modules.* in the tarballs.
 - jfs 1.0.14.
 - 2.4.18.11mdk.
 
 -- 
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
 
 
-- 
Mark Logan
Project Manager BioInformatics
Visible Genetics Inc.

Phone: (416)813-3240 x4133
Fax  : (416)813-3249
Cell : (416)274-1559
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] RE: urpmi loops on RPM not found - please, fix it finally.

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Does urpmi ask you to change disk or not ?
 No.

Ok, I see the problem, fixes will be on next urpmi release.

  or does it loop forever ?
 Yes.

This is clear that way.

François.




Re: [Cooker] Blackbox

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Holt

12:42pm... Han carefully chose these words:

Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:42:08 +0100
From: Han [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cooker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Blackbox

Marcel Pol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 After more then a year a new version of blackbox is released.
 Could it be upgraded?
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/blackboxwm

This is not blackbox, this is blackboxwm. It is a codefork, just like
fluxbox.


Groetjes, Han.

Well, they have just released (as of Jan. 30th, 2002) blackboxwm 0.62.1 
and since they use the words 'blackbox' and 'blackboxwm' interchangeably, 
and since we are using blackbox 0.61.1-3mdk, could we 'fork' over to 
0.62.1?  It should be a pretty easy switch ;-) 
Although they do recommend grabbing the newest bbkeys.

Mike  

-- 
Michael  Tracy Holt
Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.holt-tech.net   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===
Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks -
Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank...






[Cooker] (OT) Opera tp3

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

 Is it just me or is anyone else having problem with tp3 often crashing. 


 Charles





Re: [Cooker] Bundling Linux-Mandrake with Networking Hardware

2002-01-30 Thread John Kintree

On Tuesday 29 January 2002 15:30, Vadim Plessky wrote:
 I am interested in your opinions:
  whether LM can be bundled with some networking hardware, and if answer is
 yes, what subset of current LM should be included?

I like this question.  How about a distribution for installation in a PC that 
is equipped with both an Ethernet card and a wireless card such as the 
Orinoco silver card.  The purpose would be to build a plug-and-play 
router/firewall/caching wireless Access Point.  Some commercial Access Points 
already provide most of those features, but lack the caching Web server.  LM 
might be fairly close be being able to provide all of the required software 
support.  The box in which it would be installed should have low power 
consumption because it would be on 24x7.

-- 
John Kintree
4043 Delor Street
St. Louis, MO  63116
314-351-7454




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Pierre Fortin

On 30 Jan 2002 14:54:49 +0100
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended
  default boot timeout to 10s?
 
 No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
 slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.

Wouldn't it make more sense to start the timer later than extend it to
include hard-to-predict-how-long delays due to other factors...?

Just trying to help,
Pierre




Re: [Cooker] /tmp mounted as tmpfs

2002-01-30 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ln -s ../var/tmp tmp
 mount -t tmpfs /var/tmp

 This way we at least have tmp on /var not on root.

Well we should not spending too much time on 2.2.x stuff..

-- 
http://www.chmouel.org/




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) writes:

 I hate to say it (as much as I LOVE Mandrake) but there is some truth
 here.  Actually, I find the SuSE boot screen one of the best looking . .
 (please don't flame!) - I still use Mandrake solely!

 It's actually a matter of taste - but most agree the existingboot screen
 in Mandrake B2 is not the best!

I just integrtated a new boot based on the implementation of Suse,
stay tunned 8-).

-- 
http://www.chmouel.org/




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mutt-1.3.27i-3mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Blosser

On Jan 28, Geoffrey Lee [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 --=-=-=
 Name: mutt Relocations: (not relocateable)

 * Tue Jan 29 2002 Geoffrey Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.3.27i-3mdk
 
 - Back to slang again.  The reasoning is that mutt breaks with a terminfo
   entry with color support and when ncurses is enabled. By using slang,
   color doesn't break, and mono is fine as well.

Please be aware that slang has it's own problems.  For one, if you have a
large number of 'color' entries (like, around 30+), slang will claim the
terminal capabilities don't support it and start ignoring the color
commands.  In other words, it has a very low value for COLOR_PAIRS.

It would be preferable to figure out what's wrong with building with
ncurses and fix that.



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Re: [Cooker] msec: needs some help

2002-01-30 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Why not perl? All other drak tools are in perl and we suddenly introduce
 another language.

flepied  And his the one who code it..

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[Cooker] 2.4.17.12 - Install report

2002-01-30 Thread guran

Hi

N.B. I am sending this from an old Cooker as the new one did not allow me to 
send from my box and localhost - fix msec


VERSION (rsync ftp.uninett.no)
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020130 13:04
/ChangeLog/1.638/Wed Jan 30 00:26:51 2002//

Excellent run of installation.

Ext3 - ext3 via hd.img. No /mnt/hd of image after boot. Medium security 
level but BastilleChooser installed and run as modest security with no 
server. apmd and sound excluded to run together with nfs.

1)
Some text is written on pictures - could probably be done one 'line' higher 
as a fix. Exchange word 'editor' with mentor.

2)
Why is Lilo shown as default boootloader, is this the same shit as 'vi and 
emacs rule'. Come on are you riding a horse to work?

3)
Change XFree4.1 to 4.2

4)
1280x1024 and 65 thousen coulors as default, when changed to 32 bits goes 
down to 1024x768 = bad algoritm on 32 MB as in 'show all' it reverts to 
1280x1024 and 32 bits

5) N.B this might be important!
When adding more DNS to LAN in linuxconf I found:
a) default domain not set
b) search domain set to local domain not rsn.bth.se
c) enable routing not set but correct gw

6)
No sound at boot of KDE

7)
NVIDIA not tested yet.

regards
guran
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[Cooker] Partial Update !

2002-01-30 Thread raptor

I was wondering if there was I way in the MDK installation, so that we
have not installation but partial update on some major Linux components.
For example :

Core
X
GNOME
KDE


I know it would be hard such thing to be done, but at least for closer
Linux versions it will be possible .. f.e. 8.0 - 8.1 or 8.1 - 8.2...
The main reason for such thing as a point of view is that Linux evolves
much faster than most of others OSes and in fact there is no real reason
for the most users to REINSTALL everything from the scratch as this is
for example for Windows (u know, crashing, alot of garbage even after
uninstall etc..)..
On the other side we want the new things :), but with current speed
linux distros had at least every year a new version..
My MDK8.1 is working perfectly and I dont want to REINSTALL it (i want
atleast 2 years stick with one install), but want the new goodeis :)
too, on the other hand updating major components need alot of effort and
time.. Yes i'm constably updating when something new comes in the
cooker, but this are not big packages (f.e. my 8.1 is with Galeon 1.0
and evolution 1.0 .. not with the betas that was in 8.1.)

You got my point, what do u think ?

raptor
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RE: [Cooker] 2.4.17.12 - Install report

2002-01-30 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 2)
 Why is Lilo shown as default boootloader, is this the same shit as 'vi
and
 emacs rule'. 

You prefer notepad?






Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Salch

I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of KDE 
that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with MDK8.1 to the 
current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said that their test 
machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5 computers and they all 
had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the arts server then crash itself





On Wednesday 30 January 2002 01:32 am, you wrote:
 I have not had this problem with the previous kde's
 but tonight's broke my sound also.

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes, I get the same thing but I have an additional
  problem.  After the
  last update (to 8.2 beta plus a couple of cooker
  updates since) it lost
  my soundcard or rather, didn't find it on upgrade.
  I ran sndconfig to
  try and set it up, which has always worked before (I
  have a Sound
  Blaster compatible soundcard) but now it just comes
  up with all sorts of
  errors...SO, in short, for now I'm soundless.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jason
 
  Jeremy Salch wrote:
  With the latest update my startup sound works but
 
  it gives me the error that
 
  /dev/dsp is allready in use and it is going to use
 
  /dev/null  but then it
 
  still makes the sound *sometimes*   and the sound
 
  in the control panel works
 
  if i push it like 2 times.   Also Kde Media player
 
  doesn't work still.   it
 
  crashes the arts server when i launch it
  
  On Monday 28 January 2002 01:38 pm, you wrote:
  It seems since after the last KDE update from
 
  Cooker
 
  th startup sound and the test sound inside the
 
  SoundServer
 
  controll panel doesn't work. XMMS can play
 
  throught Arts
 
  and the KDE CD Player works fine too. Anyone else
 
  had
 
  this problem?
  
  /MattB

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Re: [Cooker] kde sound back up with latest kernel

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Salch

What sound do you mean?  was it the problem with the sound server saying that 
/dev/dsp was allready in use ?   or the peoblem wiht noatun crahsing arts




On Wednesday 30 January 2002 05:43 am, you wrote:
 I don't know why, but I have sound back in kde with 2.4.17-11.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mutt-1.3.27i-3mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Blosser

On Jan 30, Jeremy Blosser [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 On Jan 28, Geoffrey Lee [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
  --=-=-=
  Name: mutt Relocations: (not relocateable)
 [snip]
 It would be preferable to figure out what's wrong with building with
 ncurses and fix that.

I see that this has already been discussed a lot, sorry.

I'm sending a report to one of the ncurses maintainers who monitors the
mutt lists to see if he wants to get involved and help fix this.



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Re: [Cooker] 2.4.17.12 - Install report

2002-01-30 Thread guran

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 3:51 pm, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
  2)
  Why is Lilo shown as default boootloader, is this the same shit as 'vi

 and

  emacs rule'.

 You prefer notepad?

I am a little afraid of a social habit today, about a try to make other 
people do the same as you do. This goes beyond editors, personally I like 
mceditor or nedit.

I understand that drug addicts try to persuade others to use their drug, like 
churches do to non-believers. What is cumbersome is the claime that something 
which is best for you have to be best for all other human being.

I like Linus attitude, as I understand it - he  has chosen one form of 
copyright and then it is up to any other coder to use that form of copyright 
which he preferes.

regards
guran

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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] Mesa-4.0.1-3mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:17:57 +0100 (CET)
François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --=-=-=
 Name: Mesa Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 4.0.1 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 3mdk  Build Date: Wed Jan 30 16:04:32 2002
 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
 Group   : System/Libraries  Source RPM: (none)
 Size: 4301863  License: MIT
 Packager: François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL : http://www.mesa3d.org
 Summary : OpenGL 1.3 compatible 3D graphics library
 Description :
 Mesa is an O7.enGL 1.3 compatible 3D graphics library.
 
 --=-=-=
 
 * Wed Jan 30 2002 François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4.0.1-3mdk
 
 - removed libGL.so.1.3 as GLwrapper use it thinking it is a good
   acceleration (whatever point the link).
 
 

It now appears the poor performance of Radeon vid card was caused by 
old Mesa and not by XFree.

Am happy to report that after install of the Mesa-4.0.1 rpms performance
of Radeon 32MB DDR shot from 100fbs to 700fbs.

Francois be praised.


Charles






Re: [Cooker] kde sound back up with latest kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

Unfortunately, I did not delve deep enough with the
problem when it fixed itself with the kernel upgrade.

--- Jeremy Salch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What sound do you mean?  was it the problem with the
 sound server saying that 
 /dev/dsp was allready in use ?   or the peoblem wiht
 noatun crahsing arts
 
 
 
 
 On Wednesday 30 January 2002 05:43 am, you wrote:
  I don't know why, but I have sound back in kde
 with 2.4.17-11.
 
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Re: [Cooker] 2.4.17.12 - Install report

2002-01-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 2)
 Why is Lilo shown as default boootloader, is this the same shit as 'vi and 
 emacs rule'. Come on are you riding a horse to work?

I also personally prefer Grub, but Pixel says Lilo performs ok on
a more wide range of machines (less problems of not booting etc,
with it).
 

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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-3.2-6mdk

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:18:22 +0100 (CET)
François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --=-=-=
 Name: urpmiRelocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 3.2   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 6mdk  Build Date: Wed Jan 30 16:11:22 2002
 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
 Group   : System/Configuration/Packaging   Source RPM: (none)
 Size: 211020   License: GPL
 Packager: François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Summary : User mode rpm install
 Description :
 urpmi takes care of dependencies between rpms, using a pool (or pools) of rpms.
 
 You can compare rpm vs. urpmi  with  insmod vs. modprobe
 
 --=-=-=
 
 * Wed Jan 30 2002 François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.2-6mdk
 
 - fixed some case where removable device are not ejected.
 
 

Though it may or may not have been intentional this update also resolved
the issue of installing rpms from a removable source in rpmdrake as well
as rectifing the supermount mkbookdisk 256 error.



 Charles





[Cooker] sunsite.uio.no max connections

2002-01-30 Thread Robert Fox

Anyone know of a way with Rsync to repeatedly check the server until it
gets through?  Is there a way to write a script which constantly checks
the Rsync server until it gets a connection?

This is VERY annoying - max connections for 3 days now!

Thx,
R.Fox







Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
  slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.
 
 Wouldn't it make more sense to start the timer later than extend it to
 include hard-to-predict-how-long delays due to other factors...?

Later than what ? The timer starts when lilo is ready to accept
keys, it could hardly start later on.


-- 
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Re: [Cooker] kde sound back up with latest kernel

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Salch

Ok I just did the upgrade and i no longer get the /dev/dsp is allready in use 
message.  I guess THAT problem was a kernel issue..  but arts still crashes 
upon loading noatun


On Wednesday 30 January 2002 10:29 am, you wrote:
 Unfortunately, I did not delve deep enough with the
 problem when it fixed itself with the kernel upgrade.

 --- Jeremy Salch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What sound do you mean?  was it the problem with the
  sound server saying that
  /dev/dsp was allready in use ?   or the peoblem wiht
  noatun crahsing arts
 
  On Wednesday 30 January 2002 05:43 am, you wrote:
   I don't know why, but I have sound back in kde
 
  with 2.4.17-11.
 
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Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 And reply to this is even more amusing :-)
 
 ===
 
 Yea, we don't want no slick and shiny boot screens. After all this is
 the 
 OS for true men (and women), people who have witnessed the rise of the 
 transistor. Or maybe this is a nasty trick from the marketing department
 to 
 get at big company buyers, reminding them of those happy drunken nights
 in 
 front of a 64K machine when one had time to kill a sixpack while the
 soft 
 loaded from tapes.
 
 Have you noticed that mdk is so fond of that screen that they extended 
 default boot timeout to 10s?

Our graphist will appreciate :-)

If you have very complex pictures to display, you can use latest lilo which
contains a quite small pieces of SuSe patch to extend message file to 512Kb.

Enjoy, François.




Re: [Cooker] Latest Mozilla and baby URL icons

2002-01-30 Thread ja connor

The favoricons are stored some what like cookies. So
you first need to check if your deleting them before
you can determine if they are a bug. Most web sites
that support favori add a reference in the header to
cause the reload you are seeing. Note: they are in
icon format not gif format.


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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] Mesa-4.0.1-3mdk

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It now appears the poor performance of Radeon vid card was caused by 
 old Mesa and not by XFree.
 
 Am happy to report that after install of the Mesa-4.0.1 rpms performance
 of Radeon 32MB DDR shot from 100fbs to 700fbs.

Sorry, since i810 is a bit broken in 4.2, I didn't have checked Radeon
performance, but Mesa contains a tips that if libGL.so.1.3 exist, it assume it
is a new XFree style libGL.so.1 and use it for rendering instead of
libGL.so.1.2, so poor performance.

Another way to set GL_WRAPPER_XF4_GLX to change default behaviour.

 Francois be praised.

François :-)




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] urpmi-3.2-6mdk

2002-01-30 Thread François Pons

Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Though it may or may not have been intentional this update also resolved
 the issue of installing rpms from a removable source in rpmdrake as well
 as rectifing the supermount mkbookdisk 256 error.

:-) again.

François.




Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Rainer Koschnick

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 04:50 pm, you wrote:
 I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of KDE
 that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with MDK8.1 to
 the current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said that their
 test machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5 computers and they
 all had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the arts server then crash
 itself

Apart from the fact that noatun isn't working for me either, I am having 
another problem.  Arts wouldn't work after starting up KDE.  I have to 
restart it from control panel in order to get sound.  I am always using
the latest cooker packages here and the problem started to appear 2 or 3 days 
ago.

Rgds,
Rainer




[Cooker] when installing software with rpmdrake causes kde to crash.

2002-01-30 Thread Tech At Mathco Dot Com

When installing a program with rpmdrake causes my KDE 
desktop to crash and gives me a blue screen (yes the 
background is blue). 

My .xsession=error reports 

kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'rpmdrake' from launcher.
library=rpmdrake.la: No file names rpmdrake.la found in paths.
Could not load library! Trying exec
extracting xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
extracting xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
extracting dosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
extracting dosemu-freedos-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
installing 
ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-freedos-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm
 
ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm
 
ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm
'ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-freedos-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm'
'ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm'
'ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm'
DCOP: unregister 'alarmd'
DCOP: unregister 'klipper'
kicker: sighandler called
*** kdesktop got signal 15 (Exiting)
DCOP: unregister 'kwrited'
KLauncher: Exiting on signal 15
DCOP: unregister 'knotify'
DCOP: unregister 'klauncher'
DCOP: unregister 'kdesktop'
DCOP: unregister 'kwin'
X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  7 (X_ReparentWindow)
  Resource id in failed request:  0x1800012
  Serial number of failed request:  71134
  Current serial number in output stream:  71255
DCOP: unregister 'kicker'

/MattB





Re: [Cooker] Mirrors

2002-01-30 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Wednesday 30 Jan 2002 00:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I find that the mirror at:
 ftp.wtfo.com
 /pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS


 is quite fast.  I also find that it as well as the sunsite mirror seem
 to be the first to get updated and also the ones that stay the most
 current.  For example the Australian mirror (the one closest to me) is
 in fact days behind so I avoid it.

 Just my 2c worth and hope it helps.

 Regards,

 Jason


Thanks for the tip Jason.  I just tried wtfo with rsync and it requires 
password - didn't accept my attempts.
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Registered Linux User 219434.  Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) 
Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin,  XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk.
KDE: 2.2.2.  Qt: 2.3.2.  Up 8 hours 27 minutes.




Re: [Cooker] 8.2 + multimedia ( divx ) support

2002-01-30 Thread Fabrice FACORAT

le mar 29-01-2002 à 21:41, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
 Ainsi parlait Fabrice FACORAT :
  le lun 28-01-2002 à 20:53, Sergio Korlowsky a écrit :
   You need aviplayer, is what  use myself.
 
  bad 'cause :
  + bas GUI
  + need win32 dll for divx, so ... licensing issues
 wrong, elsewhere it woud had never been included in distro, even in contrib: 
 it can use ffmpeg codecs to play divx.

if we use ffmpeg I'd rather have in main xine as it's more beautiful (
of course I hope that xine doens't have licensing issues )
Avifile is limited contrary to xine ( DVD, VCD, Divx, ... )

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[Cooker] New Mesa?

2002-01-30 Thread Michal Bukovjan

Hello Cooker,

I just tried to update to new Mesa-4.0.1 and got only software rendering :-(
So I downgraded back to Mesa-3.4.2-2mdk and got DRI hardware rendering 
again :-)

In both cases, DRI works, loads and is enabled. (judging from XFree86 logs).

Using XFree86-4.2.0-1mdk from cooker, kernel 2.4.17-2, I have Radeon AIW 
32MB SDR.

Am I mising something?

Michal
-
Using Mesa 3.4.2 (hardware rendering works):

ldconfig -v|grep GL
libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.2.030402
libGL.so.1 - libGLwrapper.so.0.1.4

Using Mesa 4.0.1 (software rendering only):
ldconfig -v|greo GL
libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.3.401
libGL.so.1 - libGLwrapper.so.0.1.6






Re: [Cooker] New Mesa?

2002-01-30 Thread Michal Bukovjan

Oops, Mesa-4.0.1-3mdk fixes that.

Sorry,

Michal

Michal Bukovjan wrote:

 Hello Cooker,

 I just tried to update to new Mesa-4.0.1 and got only software 
 rendering :-(
 So I downgraded back to Mesa-3.4.2-2mdk and got DRI hardware rendering 
 again :-)

 In both cases, DRI works, loads and is enabled. (judging from XFree86 
 logs).

 Using XFree86-4.2.0-1mdk from cooker, kernel 2.4.17-2, I have Radeon 
 AIW 32MB SDR.

 Am I mising something?

 Michal
 -
 Using Mesa 3.4.2 (hardware rendering works):

 ldconfig -v|grep GL
libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.2.030402
libGL.so.1 - libGLwrapper.so.0.1.4

 Using Mesa 4.0.1 (software rendering only):
 ldconfig -v|greo GL
libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.3.401
libGL.so.1 - libGLwrapper.so.0.1.6









Re: [Cooker] New Mesa?

2002-01-30 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:21:27 +0100
Michal Bukovjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Cooker,
 
 I just tried to update to new Mesa-4.0.1 and got only software rendering :-(
 So I downgraded back to Mesa-3.4.2-2mdk and got DRI hardware rendering 
 again :-)
 
 In both cases, DRI works, loads and is enabled. (judging from XFree86 logs).
 
 Using XFree86-4.2.0-1mdk from cooker, kernel 2.4.17-2, I have Radeon AIW 
 32MB SDR.
 
 Am I mising something?
 
 Michal
 -
 Using Mesa 3.4.2 (hardware rendering works):
 
 ldconfig -v|grep GL
 libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.2.030402
 libGL.so.1 - libGLwrapper.so.0.1.4
 
 Using Mesa 4.0.1 (software rendering only):
 ldconfig -v|greo GL
 libGLU.so.1 - libGLU.so.1.3.401
 libGL.so.1 - libGLwrapper.so.0.1.6
 


I realise that it is a bad word with linux but did you reboot after upgrading the mesa 
pkgs.
I know there are different ways to do it but this is an easy way to 
get the new mods loaded. (It also empties any crap I have lingering
in /tmp.)

With mesa-4.01 performance with my Radeon 35mb ddr is great.



Charles





Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Salch

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 11:56 am, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 January 2002 04:50 pm, you wrote:
  I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of
  KDE that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with
  MDK8.1 to the current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said
  that their test machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5
  computers and they all had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the arts
  server then crash itself

 Apart from the fact that noatun isn't working for me either, I am having
 another problem.  Arts wouldn't work after starting up KDE.  I have to
 restart it from control panel in order to get sound.  I am always using
 the latest cooker packages here and the problem started to appear 2 or 3
 days ago.

 Rgds,
 Rainer

that is about what happened to me   but I just upgraded the kernel to 
2.4.17-11 and it seems to have stoped that problem.

Give it a try and see if it works ?




Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Pierre Fortin

On 30 Jan 2002 17:46:10 +0100
Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   No it's because with some screens, the synchro change is quite
   slow and takes time, so newbies might not react quick enough.
  
  Wouldn't it make more sense to start the timer later than extend it to
  include hard-to-predict-how-long delays due to other factors...?
 
 Later than what ? The timer starts when lilo is ready to accept
 keys, it could hardly start later on.

OK...  I get it...  then why not start accepting keystrokes as soon as the
MBR is read and make the timer even longer...  :^)  :^)

My point was related to extending an existing timer to handle something
which problably should not be within the timed period in the first place.

Pierre






Re: [Cooker] when installing software with rpmdrake causes kde tocrash.

2002-01-30 Thread Tech At Mathco Dot Com

observe even though a password was posted on the message, the
computer is not directly connected to the internet and is behind
a firewall (since i expect someone would mention not to post a password
so its irrelevant in this case)

/MattB

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 11:58, Tech At Mathco Dot Com wrote:
 When installing a program with rpmdrake causes my KDE 
 desktop to crash and gives me a blue screen (yes the 
 background is blue). 
 
 My .xsession=error reports 
 
 kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'rpmdrake' from launcher.
 library=rpmdrake.la: No file names rpmdrake.la found in paths.
 Could not load library! Trying exec
 extracting xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
 extracting xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
 extracting dosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
 extracting dosemu-freedos-1.0.1-8mdk.i586
 installing 
ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-freedos-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm
 
ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm
 
ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm
 
'ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-freedos-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm'
 
'ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/xdosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm'
 
'ftp://mat:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//home/mat/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/dosemu-1.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm'
 DCOP: unregister 'alarmd'
 DCOP: unregister 'klipper'
 kicker: sighandler called
 *** kdesktop got signal 15 (Exiting)
 DCOP: unregister 'kwrited'
 KLauncher: Exiting on signal 15
 DCOP: unregister 'knotify'
 DCOP: unregister 'klauncher'
 DCOP: unregister 'kdesktop'
 DCOP: unregister 'kwin'
 X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
   Major opcode of failed request:  7 (X_ReparentWindow)
   Resource id in failed request:  0x1800012
   Serial number of failed request:  71134
   Current serial number in output stream:  71255
 DCOP: unregister 'kicker'
 
 /MattB
 
 






Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Rainer Koschnick

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 07:41 pm, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 January 2002 11:56 am, you wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 January 2002 04:50 pm, you wrote:
   I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of
   KDE that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with
   MDK8.1 to the current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said
   that their test machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5
   computers and they all had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the
   arts server then crash itself
 
  Apart from the fact that noatun isn't working for me either, I am having
  another problem.  Arts wouldn't work after starting up KDE.  I have to
  restart it from control panel in order to get sound.  I am always using
  the latest cooker packages here and the problem started to appear 2 or 3
  days ago.
 
  Rgds,
  Rainer

 that is about what happened to me   but I just upgraded the kernel to
 2.4.17-11 and it seems to have stoped that problem.

 Give it a try and see if it works ?

Just updated to 2.4.17-12 and sound seems to work fine now :)
Thanks for your help!

Rainer




Re: [Cooker] insmod de4x5 fails

2002-01-30 Thread andre

Op ma 28-01-2002, om 20:00 schreef andre:
 DECchip ethernet card fails to insmod de4x5. tulip does work but de4x5
 is what the installation tries to insmod and that fails 
 

Installation still trying to insmod de4x5 and still failing. Weird thing
is that if i rmmod tulip and than insmod de4x5 it does work.





Re: [Cooker] please disable APIC in kernel

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

APIC is still enabled in 2.4.17-12.
--- SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am still having problems with my Dell Inspiron
 8000
 that are APIC related. Please disable it in the
 production kernel. I am currently running
 2.4.17-11mdk.
 
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Re: [Cooker] 2.4.17.12 - Install report

2002-01-30 Thread raptor

  2)
  Why is Lilo shown as default boootloader, is this the same shit as 'vi and 
  emacs rule'. Come on are you riding a horse to work?
 
 I also personally prefer Grub, but Pixel says Lilo performs ok on
 a more wide range of machines (less problems of not booting etc,
 with it).
I vote for GRUB too :)

raptor





Re: [Cooker] 2.4.17.12 - Install report

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

The main reason I think the default should be lilo is
that is what most generalized instructions are geared
for. For newbies this is very important because they
are most likely to follow instructions without fully
understanding what they are doing the
understanding part comes with time and experience.
--- raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   2)
   Why is Lilo shown as default boootloader, is
 this the same shit as 'vi and 
   emacs rule'. Come on are you riding a horse to
 work?
  
  I also personally prefer Grub, but Pixel says Lilo
 performs ok on
  a more wide range of machines (less problems of
 not booting etc,
  with it).
 I vote for GRUB too :)
 
 raptor
 
 


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[Cooker] kernel does not compile properly

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

I have tried to compile the latest kernel and it kicks
 out with the folllowing errors again (I have had this
problem on every kernel I have tried to compile since
I started around 2.4.7-10).

/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-12mdk/include/net/sock.h:739:
size of array `__pad' is too large
make[3]: *** [md.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-12mdk/drivers/md'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-12mdk/drivers/md'
make[1]: *** [_subdir_md] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-12mdk/drivers'make: ***
[_dir_drivers] Error 2

The only change I made was disabling APIC from the
default .config that comes with the source. I ran
'make symlinks dep' without issue but it kicked out
during 'make bzImage'.

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Re: [Cooker] Bundling Linux-Mandrake with Networking Hardware

2002-01-30 Thread Vadim Plessky

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 15:13, John Kintree wrote:
|   On Tuesday 29 January 2002 15:30, Vadim Plessky wrote:
|I am interested in your opinions:
| whether LM can be bundled with some networking hardware, and if answer
|is yes, what subset of current LM should be included?
|
|   I like this question.  How about a distribution for installation in a PC
| that is equipped with both an Ethernet card and a wireless card such as the
| Orinoco silver card.  The purpose would be to build a plug-and-play
| router/firewall/caching wireless Access Point.  Some commercial Access
| Points already provide most of those features, but lack the caching Web

just today we installed router/firewall wireless Access Point in our new 
office (which is part of product portfolio of the company I am working for)
And indeed, it doesn't have caching capability.
Do you think that caching capability is very important for such device?
And, do you suggest that primary application for LM would be (in your case) 
Caching Server?

interesting part in Wireless technology that 802.11a and 802.11g are coming 
(in addition to existing 802.11b), and these new technologies, with speed of 
36Mbit and 54Mbit, will definitly increase wireless usage.
So most likely we will see a lot of new wireless applications soon.

| server.  LM might be fairly close be being able to provide all of the
| required software support.  The box in which it would be installed should
| have low power consumption because it would be on 24x7.

I have to clarify here that company I am working for is not in Server 
business. Anyway, it seems all major server vendors (Compaq, Dell, HP, IBM) 
go with their own way in server strategy. They are not very much interested 
in manufacturing cheap (say, $500-$800) servers, especially at 1U 
rack-mountable form factor.

I guess many people on the list were installing some White Box servers, and 
configuring it for different tasks.
What kind of additional value you will get when you bought, say, managed 
switch with some customized version of LM?
Probably, extra routing capabilities may be interesting for layer 2 (cheap) 
switch. What can be benefitial for layer 3 switches? Extra possibility to 
control bandwidth (say, limit to 128Kbit some 10BaseT port)?

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Re: [Cooker] people about new boot screen (lilo?)

2002-01-30 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Neuromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does that mean we can have something like this now?
 http://www.gamers.org/~quinet/lilo/penguins.html

No this is lilo stuff, remember i take care of kernel thingies.

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[Cooker] Opera

2002-01-30 Thread Andrea Tavazzani

Opera works fine.

Andrea Tavazzani





Re: [Cooker] Opera

2002-01-30 Thread SI Reasoning

When I try to install it I get the error message that
libpng.so.2 is needed. I tried the static rpm for tp3.

--- Andrea Tavazzani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Opera works fine.
 
 Andrea Tavazzani
 
 


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