Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mozilla-1.1-1mdk
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > uhm, again, I was right the first time, no, it does NOT although, I > was'nt talking about the same thing;) not without modifying it... It always build no matter whether it requires patches or not. There is nothing terrific to patch, just usual bad-code. BTW, have you seen a so big package building without any patches?
Re: [Cooker] Keramic Theme and Crystal Icons to make it into 9.0?
On 28 Aug 2002, Laurent Culioli wrote: > the Slick icon theme is in the kdeartwork package. Then, I wonder, isn't kdeartwork installed by default? If I select all the KDE package groups in expert install I still can't select the Slick icon theme in KControl. Only "Mandrake's own" and Hi-Color. Regards, Mattias
Re: [Cooker] Xfree86 not restarting in beta 4
Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 15:03, brent sirna a écrit : > Hi, > > When the system first boots it starts X properly. But when you system is > restarted with the ctrl-alt-bs or when you logout it switches to console > mode. I checked the /etc/inittab and did not find the line to restart X. > Now startx is done via service 'dm' (display manager?) and some time the '/var/lock/subsys/dm' file is not correctly set... Kill it and try 'init 3' follow by 'init 5' -- Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (Cooker) for i586 Linux mars.recif.vpn 2.4.19-5mdk #1 Fri Aug 23 21:57:59 CEST 2002 i686 8:49am up 18:24, 8 users, load average: 0.28, 0.21, 0.19
[Cooker] Pinaille: index.html
Hi, Just a little thing about the English version of /usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html. It reads "Don't forget to read the documentation to learn more about Mandrakecd Linux..." Was ist Mandrakecd? Is that what it should be? =-= kk1
[Cooker] are empty group passwords OK?
I note that the new /etc/group has :: for each group instead of x or * -- this allows people to do newgrp to log into any group, no? Hmm, well, it doesn't seem to, did the semantics of /etc/group change at soem point? The manual page and the behaviour of newgrp and sg don't match. If nothing else, it may be a problem if you're trying to use Linux as an NIS (Yellow Pages) server to machines that treat empty group passwords that way, especially as passwd and group are group writeable. I always get a .rpmnew file for group and passwd, by the way -- but this difference may be why. # rpm -qf /etc/group setup-2.2.0-33mdk root::0: bin::1: daemon::2: sys::3: adm::4: tty::5: disk::6: lp::7: mem::8: kmem::9: wheel::10: etc
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake (good job)
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 13:07, Jason Straight wrote: > I'm glad there aren't any high activity widgets when installing packages on > gurpmi, the one that went back and forth like knigh rider before could swamp > a pair of T1's running from remote :-/ Seconded that rpmdrake is really coming along well; almost every week there are improvements, showing that Gillaume and friends were right to take the rewrite approach. If yuo are running remotely, though, it's better to use urpmi from the command-line. Indeed, that possibility is one reason why I'm willing to run Mandrake Linux on a server. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net www.valinor.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org Author, Open Source XML Database Toolkit, Wiley August 2000 Co-author: The XML Specification Guide, Wiley 1999; Mastering XML, Sybex 2001
[Cooker] sendmail missing user?
# /etc/init.d/sendmail start Starting sendmail: [ OK ] Starting sm-client: chown: `smmsp:smmsp': invalid user [ OK ] I have neither group nor user by tht name. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Ankh: irc.sorcery.net www.valinor.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org www.advogato.org Author, Open Source XML Database Toolkit, Wiley August 2000 Co-author: The XML Specification Guide, Wiley 1999; Mastering XML, Sybex 2001
Re: [Cooker] Cooker is frozen / 9.0 schedule
Levi Ramsey wrote: > On Wed Aug 28 17:07 +0200, Guy.Bormann wrote: > >>Why do you always smile the other way? :-))) > > He's Australian... it's kind of like how water drains in the opposite > direction and they drive on the wrong (not the right...) side of the > road... :o) And: The sun traverses the Northern sky. [which disorients anyone from the other hemisphere, since your innate sense of where north, south, east and west are by sunlight and shadows will all be 180 degrees out - Fun!] -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] Web site: http://www.ains.net.au/~ronst/
Re: [Cooker] Proftpd init script patch
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 09:06:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Strange, i was sure to have already reported it... > oh ok it must have slipped through the cracks. > --- /etc/init.d/proftpd~2002-07-11 16:56:28.0 +0200 > +++ /etc/init.d/proftpd 2002-08-28 21:04:39.0 +0200 > @@ -38,7 +38,6 @@ >start) > gprintf "Starting proftpd: " > daemon proftpd > + RETVAL=$? > echo > [ $RETVAL -eq 0 ] && touch /var/lock/subsys/proftpd > ;; > > -- > Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html >
Re: [Cooker] Gyach 0.7.5 still broken
Colons in messages acting very strange. Will try to take a look at the source and see where it's gone wrong. On Tuesday 27 August 2002 08:58 pm, Daouda LO wrote: > Digital Wokan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ... and has been since before beta 1. > > So, as with every beta release Mdk's done for 9.0, I post the same bug > > report again. > > > > Gyach can not log into Yahoo chat servers due to a mishandling of > > extra info being passed back. Gyach 0.7.6 has fixed this problem and > > works great when compiled from a tarball on my Mandrak 8.2 system. > > Unless there is some problem being run into with the new GCC compiler, > > I don't see why this update hasn't taken place. > > done now. > Could you test and report problem if any ? > thanx.
[Cooker] Konqueror crash in beta4
Left clicking on an mp3 file in Konqueror causes it to crash. The backtrace from the KDE crash handler says: ... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)... 0x41020739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #0 0x41020739 in wait4 () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x4109d340 in sys_sigabbrev () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #2 0x40e61a73 in waitpid () from /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 #3 0x4061cf55 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler(int) () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 Right clicking and selecting Open With -> Embedded Media Player produces the same results. Beta4 updated from cooker today.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice file conflict
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Eugenio Diaz wrote:
>
>>[root@fulgore:/home/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS]#
>>rpm -Fvh OpenOffice.org-l10n-*
>>Preparing...###
>>[100%]
>>file /usr/lib/openoffice/help/es/err.html conflicts between attempted
>>installs of OpenOffice.org-l10n-es-1.0.1-4mdk and
>>OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.0.1-4mdk
>>
>
>Updates are flawed. Two solutions:
>
>1) Remove the /usr/lib/openoffice/help/es symlink prior to *updating* to
>OpenOffice.org-l10n-es.
>
>2) Make sure you update the core OOo, that is
>OpenOffice.org-{,libs,l10n-en}. Then, you can safely *install* -l10n-es.
>
I had already updated the core packages before doing this. Also note
that the conflict is between *attempted installs* of l10n-en and l10n-es.
What I did was to first update l10n-en and then update l10n-es with
"--replacefiles".
--
Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE
Linux Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] special deal on mdk 9 dvd edition?
From: "Vincent Danen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Take a look at: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/90dvdedition.php3 Thomas *** Tämä viesti on VirusTarkistettu INRITEL OY:n postipalvelimella!! ***
[Cooker] dump for ext3 fixed?
Interesting line from the 2.4.20-pre5 changelog: 2.4.20-pre4/ext3: Fix the "dump corrupts filesystems" do you think we could now ship an updated and working dump/restore again? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] Problem with Gnome Help
Le Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:57:40 +, John Johnson a écrit : > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 17:34, Frederic Crozat wrote: >> Le Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:33:07 +0200, Frederik Himpe a écrit : >> >> > (I'm cc'ing you because most of my messages don't seem to make it to >> > the list) >> > >> > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 13:17, Frederic Crozat wrote: >> >> On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:50:45 +0200, Frederik Himpe wrote: >> >> >> >> > In several Gnome 2 applications I have a problem to start the Help. >> >> > For example: right click on one of the gnome panels, choose Help. >> >> > It starts Konqueror with this URL: >> >> > >> >> >http://navigation.realnames.com/resolver.dll?action=navigation&realname=ghelp%3A/usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/wgospanel.xml0.00gospanel-1&charset=iso-8859-1&providerid=180&fallbackuri=http%3A//www.google.com/search0.00q >> >> 0ghelp%253A/usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/wgospanel.xml >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 0.00gospanel-1 >> >> >> >> Install yelp package.. >> > >> > The problem still exists after installation of yelp. But running >> > gnome-help from console works. >> > >> > I have tracked it down to a setting in gnome-control-center -> >> > Advanced -> File Types and Programs. There in Internet Services I have >> > "Unknown service types" with extension "unknown", and this was >> > associated with "konqueror ". changing this to gnome-help, actually >> > makes the help work from gnome-panel. But I don't know if there are >> > any bad side effects to this change. >> >> In Internet Service, you should have a "Gnome documentation" entry, with >> ghelp as protocol and gnome-help "" as the program to launch.. >> >> -- >> Frédéric Crozat >> MandrakeSoft >> >> > I've been following this thread closely and noticed that there's no entry > list as "Gnome documentation" under Internet Services. Therefore I > manually added it. Now things seem to work properly. However, I'm getting > the following warning message when I run "gnome-help" from a term window: > > warning: failed to load external entity "Cannot write to log file: > /var/log/scrollkeeper.log : Permission denied" Something is very wrong on your system : do you have libgnome2 installed correctly ? Same question about scrollkeeper.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] NFS Installation MDK 9 B4
Bryan Whitehead wrote: > Pablo Pita Leira wrote: > > I have installed 9 Beta 4 in a laptop. I did a NFS installation. > > I found these problems : > > 1.- I entered the hostname and domain name to use the network, but after doing > > the installation, the hostname is setup as localhost. The domain name was > > correct. > I'll second this error. I've reported it before. I think it's an issue > with DHCP... But I could be wrong. Mine worked fine with fixed IP, except the rescue floppy got mostly zero byte files. -- ". . . we live in an age of paper religion. We believe more in issuing paper pronouncements on all subjects than in living our faith. The paper pronouncements of America's once Christian establishment are not many. Hence, it is assumed that the United States was never Christian." Rousas John Rushdoony, from his foreward to "The Separation Illusion", by John W. Whitehead, 1977, ISBN 0-915134-41-1 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-1.1-1mdk for mdk-8.2
Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > This same issue came up for Mozilla 1.0 -- is there an archive > anywhere with Mozilla 1.1 compiled as an upgrade for Mandrake 8.2 > systems? I won't be ready to jump to mdk-9.0 for a while but I'd > rather use mdk RPMs than switch over to the cannonical Mozilla > installers. What is the issue? I installed 1.1 from cooker on several 8.2 boxes. The last time I used the 9.0B3 CD's. -- ". . . we live in an age of paper religion. We believe more in issuing paper pronouncements on all subjects than in living our faith. The paper pronouncements of America's once Christian establishment are not many. Hence, it is assumed that the United States was never Christian." Rousas John Rushdoony, from his foreward to "The Separation Illusion", by John W. Whitehead, 1977, ISBN 0-915134-41-1 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/
Re: [Cooker] gnome fixes I would like to see
Frederic Crozat wrote: >On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:06:48 +0100, Alastair Scott wrote: > >>On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 21:51, Philippe Coulonges wrote: >> >>>I know you mandrake guys are not responsible for these bugs. I can live >>>with them, but I remember the days before ADSL, when I had to live with >>>the released bugs for months, even if they were fixed for the happy >>>fews. >>> >>>1) "Changeur de bureau" (I think it may be desktop switcher). Names you >>>give to desktops are not conserved. >>> >>Add to Panel | Utility | Workspace Switcher from a panel (UK English menu) >>... confirmed. I call them A | B | C | D (say), do Control-Alt-Backspace, >>log in again and they come back as Workspace 1 | ... | Workspace 4. >> > >Ok, I'll check this one.. > After reporting this on Aug 13 and getting no response ;-) I went and opened a bug report on bugzilla.gnome.org, but so far I have not hear any replies to it, except for you adding yourself as a "cc:" today. -- Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE Linux Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 08:44 pm, Ben Reser wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 06:00:19PM -0700, Bryan Whitehead wrote: > > If the cost was split between most linux distro's, as well as community > > support... It souldn't be that much. Even if it was only split 5 ways > > Mandrake would need only $10k. And that's chump change next to the > > salary of one employee. > > > > I was just throwing it up as a "maybe this is an option". A lawsuit from > > the owners of the mp3 licence is far worse than just paying the entire > > $50k > > > > It plain sucks no matter how you look at it. You can't split stuff up like that. Only the entity who is licensed the patent has the right to use it. If RH licensed it, they would not even be able to transfer it over to Mandrake, much less have both use them at the same time. > > Maybe NASA has some spare change floating around that they can donate to > pay the licensing. > > > Seriously. Mandrake can't afford to do this. If you want proof look at > rpmdrake. Rather than hire someone to maintain the existing C code. > They rewrote it in Perl since nobody knows C well enough to maintain > rpmdrake. I think that should be very telling of the situation. The only reason Mandrake has stayed afloat is because they use resources efficiently and don't throw money out the window by hiring extra people (look at how much work is done by volunteers). $50k is not chump change, it's the annual salary for one full-time employee. Given that Mandrake doesn't have that many employees, it makes a big difference in the finances. Anyway, let's close this pointless thread. I think Fraunhofer already said that they won't charge patent money for free decoders. If you didn't have a chance to read the message because of the mailing list having problems, I've attached it below. -- -- Igor -- --- repost of message follows - [Cooker] [Fwd: Re: MP3 Licensing Question]Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:58:53 +1200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cooker Mandrake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I forward this to the cooker list. I wrote to Frauenhofer and their response is below. This does not fully answer our question as it does not address Open Source but commercially sold software decoders. BUT, it does say the licensing policy has not changed and since Mandrake has not been sued up till now, that should be a good indicator that Mandrake should continue the way it always has - that is to continue (as before) to INCLUDE software based Open Source MP3 Players in the distribution. Hope this helps to calrify the issues involved. Regards, Jason Greenwood Original Message Subject: Re: MP3 Licensing Question Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:47:01 +0200 From: Stefan Geyersberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Fraunhofer IIS-A To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, the following statement was sent to the Slash Dot.org Web site for clarification. It should be up within the next days. -- Steve Syatt SSA Public Relations for Thomson multimedia (the lower case is not a typo...) My Tel: (818) 501-0700 Statement from Thomson Multimedia, mp3 Licensing In a posting appearing Tuesday August 27, 2002 on the Web site 'slashdot.org,' an individual cited a change in the mp3 license fee structure of Thomson and Fraunhofer. The writer of the post apparently misread the mp3 licensing conditions, as Thomson's mp3 licensing policy has not experienced any change. To clarify, since the beginning of our mp3 licensing program in 1995, Thomson has never charged a per unit royalty for freely distributed software decoders. For commercially sold decoders - primarily hardware mp3 players - the per-unit royalty has always been in place since the beginning of the program. Therefore, there is no change in our licensing policy and we continue to believe that the royalty fees of .75 cents per mp3 player (on average selling over $200 dollars) has no measurable impact on the consumer experience. -- Jason Greenwood wrote: > Dear Sir/Miss, > > A war is raging in the Open Source Community regarding MP3 Players. In > particular, the inclusion of the XMMS MP3 Player Plugin in the > forthcoming Mandrake 9.0 Release. Is it required to obtain a license for > software based MP3 Players that are Open Source (Free)?? Your pages used > to address this but have been removed. Please clarify for all involved. > > As an OSS software user I hope that you make exemptions in your > licensing for Open Source Projects as improvements in the format are > returned to you in the form of source. As such you receive valuable > development input in place of royalty fees. I was not commissio
Re: [Cooker] Re: mktemp does not work
Vincent Danen wrote on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 06:04:01PM -0600 : > > You're 100% positive on this? Was it on Mandrake you used 4 X's, or > BSD? I've got 7.2 up in vmware for some security testing and just ran > "mktemp file." and get the cannot create error, and the manpage > indicates 6 X's. man mktemp on RH 7.1: The template may be any file name with some number of `Xs' appended to it, for example /tmp/temp.. The trailing `Xs' are replaced with the current process number and/or a unique letter combination. The number of unique file names mktemp can return depends on the number of `Xs' provided; six `Xs' will result in mktemp testing roughly 26 ** 6 combinations. However, when you try to do less than 6: [root@atlantis /root]# mktemp -u fileXXX Cannot create temp file fileXXX [root@atlantis /root]# mktemp -u fileX Cannot create temp file fileX [root@atlantis /root]# mktemp -u fileXX fileMdioDs The interesting thing is what happens when you go more than 6: [root@atlantis /root]# mktemp -u file fileXXsswMeG I think I just remembered backwards (ie I wanted more than 6 but could only get 6). > I don't think it changed from 7.2 to cooker (ie. from 6 to 4 and back > to 6). I believe you are right. This is a RedHat-ism it appears. Blue skies... Todd -- | MandrakeSoft USA | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mandrakesoft.com | Sometimes you get experience.| | http://www.mandrakelinux.com |--unknown origin | msg72969/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-1.1-1mdk for mdk-8.2
> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >> This same issue came up for Mozilla 1.0 B> How so? There are RPMs un unsupported, and I also had some up B> pretty early at http://ranger.dnslias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.2 According to the Cooker archives, the request came first, then your files were announced and I'm not certain when the unsupported files appeared but it was some time after that. I'd checked unsupported and noticed there were only the 1.0 (rc3?) files so I just wondered if there were plans to update those. >> -- is there an archive anywhere with Mozilla 1.1 compiled as an >> upgrade for Mandrake 8.2 systems? B> But, Mozilla will break galeon, and probably nautilus also B> ... so give us some time. I wouldn't miss either, but I understand your dilemma -- I was just curious if a mozilla upgrade for 8.2 was on anyone's todo list. B> Now that I have Gnome2 (thanks to the Mandrake Club who rebuilt B> Fred's RPMs for 8.2 in /opt/gnome2), I might consider keeping B> my 8.2 install (as it has KDE3.0.3, KDE2.2.2, Gnome1.4 and B> Gnome2.0!) I know the feeling; 8.2 is so near to perfect for my purposes that I'm frightened of any jump to an X.zero edition. -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TeleDynamics Communications Inc Business Advantage through Community Software : http://www.teledyn.com "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."(Pablo Picasso)
Re: [Cooker] gedit
When opening gedit from the console I get the following error. Is this something one needs to worry about? gedit:3369): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0 FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0
[Cooker] drakconnect will not accept correct info on delayed pppoeconnection (see other message)
Continuing for other message. I spoke a little too soon. I tried to reconnect to the Internet from MCC and since it reported a fail connection it requested the same info again. That is to be expected. But the connection was eventually established and working just took a longer. Once again, rp-pppoe-gui took only three seconds. Gabriel.
[Cooker] drakconnect connection slow & "cranky" with pppoe DSL
What I did.. Using the network wizard I ONLY selected a ADSL using pppoe. No NIC configuration. I entered the DNS servers, password, user name. Tested the connection. I was using a stopwatch so give or take a second. After 17 seconds is says it cannot connect, check MCC. After 27 seconds ppp0 tab appears. Connection works. But I have "Not Connected" in the status bar and the button says "Connect adsl_pppoe". In 8.2 it would switch to "Disconnect adsl_pppoe" when the ppp0 tab appeared. I press the button and it says it is disconnecting. Same thing as above After about 17 seconds is says it cannot disconnect After about 27 seconds ppp0 disappears Disconnect works. The status bar says "Connected" and the button says "Connect adsl_pppoe" Behavior is consistent. Now compare this to rp-pppoe-gui which takes 3 second. Not to mention it allows for users to use the connection. That is, no need use root password. I will say I am using the same provider as roaring penguin so that helps. :) You are using rp-pppoe as the backend for pppoe connection, correct? If so, Roaring Penguin is doing it differently and doing it well. Gabriel
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 06:00:19PM -0700, Bryan Whitehead wrote: > If the cost was split between most linux distro's, as well as community > support... It souldn't be that much. Even if it was only split 5 ways > Mandrake would need only $10k. And that's chump change next to the > salary of one employee. > > I was just throwing it up as a "maybe this is an option". A lawsuit from > the owners of the mp3 licence is far worse than just paying the entire > $50k > > It plain sucks no matter how you look at it. Maybe NASA has some spare change floating around that they can donate to pay the licensing. Seriously. Mandrake can't afford to do this. If you want proof look at rpmdrake. Rather than hire someone to maintain the existing C code. They rewrote it in Perl since nobody knows C well enough to maintain rpmdrake. I think that should be very telling of the situation. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 01:29:42AM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > Yes. 1), $50k is a non-trivial amount of money, but that's not the > important point. Great when can we expect your check? -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
Re: [Cooker] [Fwd: Re: MP3 Licensing Question]
Hehe, thanks, had to restart Mozilla for it to take effect. Hopefully the reply to header is now FINALLY gone for goodwe'll see... =)] Cheers, Jason Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 23:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I forward this to the cooker list. >> >>I wrote to Frauenhofer and their response is below. This does not fully >>answer our question as it does not address Open Source but commercially >>sold software decoders. BUT, it does say the licensing policy has not >>changed and since Mandrake has not been sued up till now, that should be >>a good indicator that Mandrake should continue the way it always has - >>that is to continue (as before) to INCLUDE software based Open Source >>MP3 Players in the distribution. >> >>Hope this helps to calrify the issues involved. > > > Heh, thanks for having the presence of mind to do this Jason :). Seems > no-one else did before running off on wild tangents (myself included, of > course). Makes you wonder why Red Hat suddenly decided to yank their mp3 > encoding stuff, really. As you say, the situation hasn't materially > changed in any way, so far as can be told. > > But you're STILL setting a reply-to: header with the same address as > your from: header. Don't do this. It's broken.
Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake "maximum informations"
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 20:21, Elliott Martin wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm the only one having this problem, but with rpmdrake-13mdk > when I right click on the description of the rpm, and choose 'maximum > informations' rpmdrake dies saying > > Undefined subroutine &main:: called at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake line 541. > > on another note, informations is not a word. Perhaps something like 'full rpm > details' or the like. > > on a further note still, right clicking on the description does not seem that > intuitive, and I don't think I would have tried if I hadn't read about it on > this mailing list. It also appears to be the only right clickable part of the > program, which makes it inconsistent with the rest of the interface. > > Thanks for all your hard work on rpmdrake, it's come a long way! > > -elliott > > > Same here if I click either entry. B4 with all cooker updates as of today.
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup not listed in control center
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 14:13, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Wednesday 28 August 2002 09:57 am, Gabriel Phoenix wrote: > > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 18:59, Daouda LO wrote: > > > Gabriel Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 17:12, Daouda LO wrote: > > > > > Gabriel Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > I only discovered its existence when I look at a description of > > > > > > drakxtools rpm. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a decent program but people have to know it exist. > > > > > > > > > > Look in control-center -> system. > > > > > > > > I have Menus, Services, Fonts, Date & Time, Logs, Console, Users > > > > > > > > No Backup. > > > > > > > > drakconf-9.0-0.7mdk > > > > drakxtools-1.1.9-20mdk > > > > > > Upgrade to newer versions: > > > > > > drakconf-9.0-0.14mdk > > > drakxtools-1.1.9-20mdk > > > > it there, these programs are moving targets, update them what two days > > ago > > > > gabriel > Are you looking in the Mandrake Control Center and not the KDE Control Center? > It is in MCC. HTH > -- > Dennis M. linux user #180842 > My problem was the version I had was out of date Gabriel
Re: [Cooker] special deal on mdk 9 dvd edition?
On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 07:12 PM, Brent Hasty wrote: > Did I hear somthing about special deal on mdk 9 dvd edition for us beta > testers and or us mdk club members? > > I want one :-) No idea on this... > Will it include staroffice? > Does staroffice include file conversion support for corel wordperfect > office > files? It "apparently" does, but I've never gotten it to properly import my WPO2000 files. They actually caused SO6 to crash. > Does Open office yet have file conversion support for corel wordperfect > office files? AFAIK, not at all... not with the recent ones I looked at. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ FE6F2AFD: "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" Fingerprint: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD PGP.sig Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] What happened to userdrake?
What happened to userdrake why does it no longer support uppercase in the usernames in mdk 9 b4?
[Cooker] rpmdrake "maximum informations"
I'm not sure if I'm the only one having this problem, but with rpmdrake-13mdk when I right click on the description of the rpm, and choose 'maximum informations' rpmdrake dies saying Undefined subroutine &main:: called at /usr/sbin/rpmdrake line 541. on another note, informations is not a word. Perhaps something like 'full rpm details' or the like. on a further note still, right clicking on the description does not seem that intuitive, and I don't think I would have tried if I hadn't read about it on this mailing list. It also appears to be the only right clickable part of the program, which makes it inconsistent with the rest of the interface. Thanks for all your hard work on rpmdrake, it's come a long way! -elliott
Re: [Cooker] [Fwd: Re: MP3 Licensing Question]
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 23:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I forward this to the cooker list. > > I wrote to Frauenhofer and their response is below. This does not fully > answer our question as it does not address Open Source but commercially > sold software decoders. BUT, it does say the licensing policy has not > changed and since Mandrake has not been sued up till now, that should be > a good indicator that Mandrake should continue the way it always has - > that is to continue (as before) to INCLUDE software based Open Source > MP3 Players in the distribution. > > Hope this helps to calrify the issues involved. Heh, thanks for having the presence of mind to do this Jason :). Seems no-one else did before running off on wild tangents (myself included, of course). Makes you wonder why Red Hat suddenly decided to yank their mp3 encoding stuff, really. As you say, the situation hasn't materially changed in any way, so far as can be told. But you're STILL setting a reply-to: header with the same address as your from: header. Don't do this. It's broken. -- adamw
[Cooker] special deal on mdk 9 dvd edition?
Did I hear somthing about special deal on mdk 9 dvd edition for us beta testers and or us mdk club members? I want one :-) Will it include staroffice? Does staroffice include file conversion support for corel wordperfect office files? Does Open office yet have file conversion support for corel wordperfect office files?
RE: [Cooker] Mailing lists dead
I seem to get 3 copies of every message, it anybody else seeing this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy.Bormann Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:44 AM To: Mandrake Cooker Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mailing lists dead On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Jure Repinc wrote: > David Walser wrote: > > Where'd everybody go? I usually wake up to over 50 > > new messages, but none? Even the archive shows none. > > A bunch of stuff was going on on the mirrors, but > > nothing on the changelog list either? What's going > > on? > > > > Why did a bunch of mplayer and php stuff disappear (contrib)? > > I think Mandrake mailing list server has quite some troubles. I also > didn't get any mails from it and some messages I send to the list are > lost forever. Some messages atke more then 10 minutes to appear on the > list. I hope this message gets to the server and appears on the list. Very, very weird, I have never ever suffered from "a lack of messages" (quite to the contrary :-) or delays since people started complaining about this. I do get some reorderings and doublings, though. Since the mail list processor mangles headers, could this be related to incoming header formats or maybe even alphabetic order ofdestination address (i.e. some race conditions in the processing kicking in for the people in the back of the queue, ...)? Pure speculation... At the moment, I read mail at home once in a while so I don't see the logical evolution of the threads (or the lack thereof sometimes :-P) well enough to judge at the moment. But at work I follow it up closer than my boss would like me to do and I never get that much confused apart from the "occasional" reorderings. In short : it seems to be random although maybe not to the "sufferers" so this could be destination related or as a consequence of some race condition(s). Guy Bormann
[Cooker] [Fwd: Beta 4 Install Report]
I sent this yesterday and I still have not seen it in the cooker e-mail I get. If other have two copies now sorry Did a clean install this time as opposed to the upgrade I did with beta 3. The install went very smoothly. The linux install wizard was even more impressive than in the past. The whole process took just under an hour. The issues I encountered last time were mostly corrected. Sane installation went smoothly except scanner drake did not recognize my scanner automatically (Umax Astra 1200S) this is a bit odd since it has always done this in the past and after asking me to do this manually, there was my scanner listed plan as day in the list. Still it was easy and worked first time. The only thing I see even a bit out of whack right now is that once again I had to change the order of the names "localhost.localdomain" and "localhost" in the /etc/hosts file. If "localhost" is not listed first then swat does not function. This has been this way in 9.0 betas 2, 3, and now 4 (never tried beta 1). This is not hard to fix but it is odd since the other services like webmin do not seem to be bothered either order. Anyway it is looking pretty good to me ... oh and BTW - rpmdrake is getting much better. I like the fact that the package description is now available. Personally I still think the file list should also be included. I have often used this list in version 8.x to find the directory location of program file so that I can start the program. I know there are other ways to get this information but is was simple to look while I was installing. Perhaps this info is still planed. after all this tool has been changing almost before our eyes. Great Work! --- Registered Linux user #264340 Mandrake Linux 9.0 beta 4 - Kernel 2.4.19-5mdk XFree86 4.2.0 - KDE 3.0.3 and Gnome 2.0
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 00:41, Bryan Whitehead wrote: > Why doesn't Mandrake, RedHat, and others simply pay $50,000 on behalf of > the XMMS team. Then they will have an unlimited license for decoding > .mp3's. Mandrake/Redhat/others simply distribute XMMS > > Or am I missing something? Yes. 1), $50k is a non-trivial amount of money, but that's not the important point. 2), it would necessitate a license change, were this patent issue actually to apply. Mandrake's license makes it freely redistributable; once you have Mandrake you can perfectly legally give it to anyone else. This wouldn't be allowed under the terms of Thompson's patent license. XMMS would somehow then have to be not legally redistributable under Mandrake's license - effectively it'd have to be included with commercially licensed software on the for-sale edition only. This is one of the big problems with this issue - if you think about it it doesn't apply to Microsoft or Apple, since you can't legally redistribute WMP or iTunes. But cf Jason Greenwood's recent posting, this is all a non-issue anyway. -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's not the point here. Besides, you got a spare $50,000 for > Mandrake?? As it is they are AFAIK laying off developers and (perhaps) > rushing releases a bit just to stay afloat. I am not ripping ML, just > trying to be honest. I do NOT want to see ML go under, THAT would be a > sad day. So if it comes down to a PLF package instead of ML paying for > MP3's, I'll take it. > > Regards, > If the cost was split between most linux distro's, as well as community support... It souldn't be that much. Even if it was only split 5 ways Mandrake would need only $10k. And that's chump change next to the salary of one employee. I was just throwing it up as a "maybe this is an option". A lawsuit from the owners of the mp3 licence is far worse than just paying the entire $50k It plain sucks no matter how you look at it. -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Other Components - xmms strange behaviour
Alan Shoemaker wrote on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 04:22:19PM -0700 : > kick play in xmms. Next, even if random play is selected, the > first alphabetically song will always play first. As far as I know, it has always done this. > then.Finally, desctop activity (opening windows, executing > commands) make cracks in the sound, but this might be related > to Audigy EX driver ;-( Agreed. Have him run draksound and see if it gives him an option. If he currently is using ALSA and the OSS drivers also exist for that card, it will show the OSS driver as an option. Have him try that. A reboot might be required unless he knows how to remove the modules. Usually you can do service sound stop and service alsa stop and all the modules get removed, but I won't swear to that, especially if he still has something like artsd running. Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-5mdk msg72950/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
That's not the point here. Besides, you got a spare $50,000 for Mandrake?? As it is they are AFAIK laying off developers and (perhaps) rushing releases a bit just to stay afloat. I am not ripping ML, just trying to be honest. I do NOT want to see ML go under, THAT would be a sad day. So if it comes down to a PLF package instead of ML paying for MP3's, I'll take it. Regards, Jason Greenwood PS, how many things that require licenses should ML pay for in a FREELY downloadable distro??? None IMHO. The whole point of ML is to be 100% OSS, AFAIK. Bryan Whitehead wrote: > Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> >>> S, is XMMS going to play MP3's or not in 9.0??? >> >> >> >> dunno yet. we're studying the issue with lawyers, and contacting >> thomson & rh to get more info on the subject. >> > > Why doesn't Mandrake, RedHat, and others simply pay $50,000 on behalf of > the XMMS team. Then they will have an unlimited license for decoding > .mp3's. Mandrake/Redhat/others simply distribute XMMS > > Or am I missing something? >
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
SORRY to cause such a stir, I didn't realise I had a reply to header set, so thanks for bringing it to my attention, it was my mistake. It has now been removed. Apologies to the list for the pain in the ass. Cheers, Jason Greenwood Ben Reser wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 04:24:03PM -0500, Igor Izyumin wrote: > >>Why isn't the list simply configured to re-write the header? Couldn't it just >>include both the stuff in the original reply-to and the cooker email? > > > So that people who need to get offlist replies can set a Reply-To header > and then the reply function will go to them. I do it whenver I want > someone to send me something off list to help debug. > > Just go look through all the many debates about this that have occured. > They're in the archive... >
Re: [Cooker] kdevelop and automake
On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 04:05:59PM -0700, Ben Reser wrote: > kdevelop wants automake 1.5 or newer. If you don't have automake then > generating a new project won't work right. Not sure if it should be a > requirement or not. But if so then kdevelop should Require automake > > 1.5... Confirmed it works fine with automake 1.4 now. Thanks Laurent. :) -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] mozilla-1.1-1mdk
Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: >> >> >> >>> should'nt sun jdk 1.4.1 be able to compile with gcc-3.2? >>> >> >> >> Any JDK >= 1.4.0 compiles with gcc-3.2, probably earlier versions of >> JDK as well. It was asked when *Sun* would ship with a gcc3.X >> compiled JDK. >> >> >> >> >> >> > ahh, okay > > > > > uhm, again, I was right the first time, no, it does NOT although, I was'nt talking about the same thing;) not without modifying it... some hints:) http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/javafromscratch.txt
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - Cable modem not installed
mandrakeexpert incident 30366 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below 'Elmo123' has no email address in the mandrakeexpert database. Elmo123 : 28/08 02:44 : Incident created Hi, I have a cable modem (Scientific Atlanta) connected via the USB port. This works fine with Mandrake 8.2 but not under 9 Beta3. 8.2 assigns it as a network card but with Beta3 USB viewer reports a cable modem (in red) - How would I assign this as a network device? Is it possible to have a device manager like that in windows, where you can update drivers and so on? Let me know if I can help Regards John -end quoted text-
[Cooker] ctrl-button1 inconsistent between konqueror and mozilla
It would be nice if konqueror would open a link in a new window with ctrl-button1 like mozilla does (and likewise, ctrl-enter in location). Currently konqueror completely ignores ctrl in above cases. Even though this is an enhancement request for konqueror, I would regard it as a bug in Mandrake distribution because of inconsistency, and thus be free of freeze requirements :-) It would make life a lot easier for us two button mouse users (laptop, not possible to change). Emulating button2 is not very convenient, a modifier would be much easier. Has anyone any idea if KDE 3.1 includes this, or should I contact them too? Teemu
[Cooker] 9.0 B4 DHCP client strange behavior
DHCP client change IP address before the lees is over; fathermore it is does not send "dhcpcd -k" to the server on reboot. Situation: 1. DHCP server is a Lynxsys router.It have 5 days lees on the IP addresses. IP changes during the day by it self. Why? 2. On reboot MDK 9.0b4 machine grabs new IP. Why? 3. On first "dhcpcd -k" followed by "network restart" IP does not changed after scond "dhcpcd -k"followed by "network restart" IP changes. Why? Yankl(Tiny IT guy)
[Cooker] mrproject 0.6-1mdk from beta 4
Seems like if an error dialog appears for whatever reason, then the Mouse cannot click the OK button. You have to hit the Escape Key. Wierd... ? -AEF
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup not listed in control center
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 09:57 am, Gabriel Phoenix wrote: > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 18:59, Daouda LO wrote: > > Gabriel Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 17:12, Daouda LO wrote: > > > > Gabriel Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I only discovered its existence when I look at a description of > > > > > drakxtools rpm. > > > > > > > > > > It is a decent program but people have to know it exist. > > > > > > > > Look in control-center -> system. > > > > > > I have Menus, Services, Fonts, Date & Time, Logs, Console, Users > > > > > > No Backup. > > > > > > drakconf-9.0-0.7mdk > > > drakxtools-1.1.9-20mdk > > > > Upgrade to newer versions: > > > > drakconf-9.0-0.14mdk > > drakxtools-1.1.9-20mdk > > it there, these programs are moving targets, update them what two days > ago > > gabriel Are you looking in the Mandrake Control Center and not the KDE Control Center? It is in MCC. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842
Re: [Cooker] Re: mktemp does not work
On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 03:27 PM, Todd Lyons wrote: >>> I got a repeatable here: >>> Please test: ``mktemp file.XXX'' >>> I get: ``Cannot create temp file file.XXX'' >> This is because you're using mktemp wrong. You need 6 X's... ie. >> mktemp file.X >> file.0AgVNF >> Read the manpage... it indicates that 6 X's are required in the >> template. > > This is new I believe (the requirement of 6). I've used it in the past > with 4 X's and it worked fine. (Just wanted to let Han know that he > wasn't crazy...errr...not too much at least :) You're 100% positive on this? Was it on Mandrake you used 4 X's, or BSD? I've got 7.2 up in vmware for some security testing and just ran "mktemp file." and get the cannot create error, and the manpage indicates 6 X's. I don't think it changed from 7.2 to cooker (ie. from 6 to 4 and back to 6). -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ FE6F2AFD: "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" Fingerprint: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD PGP.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] drakbackup not listed in control center
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 18:59, Daouda LO wrote: > Gabriel Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 17:12, Daouda LO wrote: > > > Gabriel Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > I only discovered its existence when I look at a description of > > > > drakxtools rpm. > > > > > > > > It is a decent program but people have to know it exist. > > > > > > Look in control-center -> system. > > > > > I have Menus, Services, Fonts, Date & Time, Logs, Console, Users > > > > No Backup. > > > > drakconf-9.0-0.7mdk > > drakxtools-1.1.9-20mdk > > Upgrade to newer versions: > > drakconf-9.0-0.14mdk > drakxtools-1.1.9-20mdk > it there, these programs are moving targets, update them what two days ago gabriel
Re: [Cooker] Graphical Installer Needs ---
Brent Hasty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Graphical Installer Needs --- Cut and Paste support, would be very handy in > the network configuration utility. X cut'n'paste should work. Just select and paste with middle button? > In add user the ability to use uppercase characters when creating users, once > installed userdrake allows capatalized user names. It would be nice to be > able to add the same user during this portion of the install. If someone can find out what's allowed or not, please tell.
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >>S, is XMMS going to play MP3's or not in 9.0??? > > > dunno yet. we're studying the issue with lawyers, and contacting > thomson & rh to get more info on the subject. > Why doesn't Mandrake, RedHat, and others simply pay $50,000 on behalf of the XMMS team. Then they will have an unlimited license for decoding .mp3's. Mandrake/Redhat/others simply distribute XMMS Or am I missing something? -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] NFS Installation MDK 9 B4
Pablo Pita Leira wrote: > I have installed 9 Beta 4 in a laptop. I did a NFS installation. > > I found these problems : > > 1.- I entered the hostname and domain name to use the network, but after doing > the installation, the hostname is setup as localhost. The domain name was > correct. I'll second this error. I've reported it before. I think it's an issue with DHCP... But I could be wrong. > 2.- I use a PCMCIA ethernet card based on a 8139 chip. The 8139too driver > works with the card (it was used for the installation). After the > installation, the pcmcia card manager loads the 8139cp driver which fails. > -- Bryan Whitehead SysAdmin - JPL - Interferometry Systems and Technology Phone: 818 354 2903 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Other Components - xmms strange behaviour
mandrakeexpert incident 30376 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "SERGEI ZUYEV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sergei : 28/08 04:02 : Incident created beta4. Load files menu in xmms behaves quite strangely: clicking load all files in directory does not display any action (before all the file names became blue and the list appeared in the selection window), clicking OK and even Close buttons do not kick play in xmms. Next, even if random play is selected, the first alphabetically song will always play first. Next song does not play after the current is finished. One needs to press next button to make it go to next song and play button then.Finally, desctop activity (opening windows, executing commands) make cracks in the sound, but this might be related to Audigy EX driver ;-( -end quoted text-
[Cooker] jabber jud in ldap
http://freshmeat.net/releases/95343/ sounds interesting, maybe something to look at post-9.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Cannot configure X for ATI driver
"Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > knekos : 28/08 11:23 : Incident created I have ATI Rage > Pro 128 AGP card. I cannot install X server on MDK9.0B4 as > when I select ATI card driver (Mach64 Utah is offered by > autodetection, is it ok?), I choose a XFree 4.2.0 (doesn't > mather), and I receive an error "Can't call method "isa" on > an undefined interface". I press OK and I MDK checks for > update and than I have new try to configure Xserver. I canot > find a way how to configure it. can you mail me your /root/drakx/report.bug.gz, or give me the complete error message (including the line number the error occured) which you can find on tty3 (the report.bug includes this error message) thanks!
[Cooker] Graphical Installer Needs ---
Graphical Installer Needs --- Cut and Paste support, would be very handy in the network configuration utility. and In add user the ability to use uppercase characters when creating users, once installed userdrake allows capatalized user names. It would be nice to be able to add the same user during this portion of the install.
[Cooker] [errors] kdebase & dev problems
Since upgrade from 8.2 -> 9.0 beta + pfl kdemoreartwork , when a drakupdaterobot update kdebase-3.0.*, something strange occurs on my system : when ksplash(ml) starts, it takes all my memory (768M + 800M swap). To correct this, I remove the lines in startkde about this and everything run smoothly another thins is a buggy dev/MAKEDEV version which has install a copy of /dev/* in / can I remove that smoothly or will that be corrected by updating ? --- Frédéric Jacquet
[Cooker] [Fwd: Re: MP3 Licensing Question]
I forward this to the cooker list. I wrote to Frauenhofer and their response is below. This does not fully answer our question as it does not address Open Source but commercially sold software decoders. BUT, it does say the licensing policy has not changed and since Mandrake has not been sued up till now, that should be a good indicator that Mandrake should continue the way it always has - that is to continue (as before) to INCLUDE software based Open Source MP3 Players in the distribution. Hope this helps to calrify the issues involved. Regards, Jason Greenwood Original Message Subject: Re: MP3 Licensing Question Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:47:01 +0200 From: Stefan Geyersberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Fraunhofer IIS-A To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, the following statement was sent to the Slash Dot.org Web site for clarification. It should be up within the next days. -- Steve Syatt SSA Public Relations for Thomson multimedia (the lower case is not a typo...) My Tel: (818) 501-0700 Statement from Thomson Multimedia, mp3 Licensing In a posting appearing Tuesday August 27, 2002 on the Web site 'slashdot.org,' an individual cited a change in the mp3 license fee structure of Thomson and Fraunhofer. The writer of the post apparently misread the mp3 licensing conditions, as Thomson's mp3 licensing policy has not experienced any change. To clarify, since the beginning of our mp3 licensing program in 1995, Thomson has never charged a per unit royalty for freely distributed software decoders. For commercially sold decoders - primarily hardware mp3 players - the per-unit royalty has always been in place since the beginning of the program. Therefore, there is no change in our licensing policy and we continue to believe that the royalty fees of .75 cents per mp3 player (on average selling over $200 dollars) has no measurable impact on the consumer experience. -- Jason Greenwood wrote: > Dear Sir/Miss, > > A war is raging in the Open Source Community regarding MP3 Players. In > particular, the inclusion of the XMMS MP3 Player Plugin in the > forthcoming Mandrake 9.0 Release. Is it required to obtain a license for > software based MP3 Players that are Open Source (Free)?? Your pages used > to address this but have been removed. Please clarify for all involved. > > As an OSS software user I hope that you make exemptions in your > licensing for Open Source Projects as improvements in the format are > returned to you in the form of source. As such you receive valuable > development input in place of royalty fees. I was not commissioned by > anyone to write this to you. I am asking on my own behalf and on behalf > of Open Source Software Users the world over. > > Kindest Regards, > > Jason Greenwood > >
Re: [Cooker] grpmi still core dumps, but works
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 28 August 2002 23:22, Todd Lyons wrote: > > Go into the directory of the core dump. Run 'gdb'. Then type > 'core core' (assuming that the name of the coredump is "core"). It will > tell you which program is making the core dump. By any chance is it > update-menus? Uhm...according to the subject it is grpmi making the core-dumps And it really is (at least in the 2 cores I tested). I think the question was: installing which rpm causes grmpi to core dump. Danny - -- Once you've tried to change the world you find it's a whole bunch easier to change your mind. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9bVYLaeiN+EU2vEIRAtZhAJoDnNrgvzUeTmOXzUdmtm4CgwoyMACgrF3J gRXZeKqg65WUW64JLTb65Uc= =o5L6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - upgrade from beta3 to beta4 problems
mandrakeexpert incident 30371 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "SERGEI ZUYEV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sergei : 28/08 03:37 : Incident created I tried to make update from beta3 to beta4, until after intall of packages all went well but soon after that I get error: "mkinitrd failed at /usr/bin/perl-install/bootloader.pm line 64", then when making bootable diskette: "mkbootdisk failed" line 1092,<> line 54, then during configuration of X: "xf86 Open console: cannot open /dev/tty0" and finally I got into loop - X-update of packages-X, etc. Having done installation afresh, everything during intallation went smoothly. -end quoted text-
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 02:50:26PM -0700, Todd Lyons wrote: > Those of us using mutt don't even notice the improperly configured > mailers :-/ I use mutt and I notice. I just never remember to type L instead of r. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
Re: [Cooker] Mount dvd drives to /mnt/dvd not /mnt/cdromX
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 19:52, andre wrote: > On Wednesday 28 August 2002 12:47, Pixel wrote: > > Gabriel Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > hdd is a DVD which was correctly identified in the Control Center as a > > > DVD but mounted as cdrom2 > > > > > > trivial yes but I think it just adds a touch of class that Mandrake > > > mounts a DVD as /mnt/dvd instead of /mnt/cdrom2 > > > > quite a late for such a change. but maybe... > > > > I think this is always suggested when cooker is in the freezer. lsb could be a > problem when one uses /mnt/dvd etc. > > > and may i add /mnt/burner for when you have a cdwriter > > and pixel i think somebody even had a solution in mind :) > http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@linux-mandrake.com/msg40615.html > Now first I admit ignorance but isn't a mount point just a directory reference in fstab? That is, link /dev/hdX to /mnt/, or any other directory for that matter? The mount point should be a trivial change. Since you can already identify a DVD player you know which is which. It kept throwing me off so I made the change myself and thought most people new to Linux would intuitively call the device dvd (/mnt/dvd) not cdromX. Sorry about reference to xine, thought that was /mnt/dvd not /dev/dvd. Gabriel
Re: [Cooker] Re: konqueror clipboard fix please?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 02:43:25PM -0700, David Walser wrote: > Awesome, thanks Ben :o) > > My only other major annoyance with Konq is being on a > web form where you start typing and it offers a > drop-down with possible auto-completions, you hit the > down arrow to select one. It fills in the completion, > leaves your cursor in the form and the drop-down box > visible (with the thing you just selected blue). At > this point in Konqueror 2.2.2 you can hit tab and move > to the next form field. In 3.0.2, you can't, tab > doesn't do anything, you're stuck. > > I mainly see this in Yahoo! Mail, which is why it's an > annoyance :o) Can you reproduce this? Can you put up a basic page that demonstrates this and instructions on how to do replicate? If so I'll take a look. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
Re: [Cooker] X taking up a lot of CPU (xscreensaver?)
On Wednesday, August 28, 2002, at 01:51 PM, Jure Repinc wrote: >> Anyone else see this? > > I also see that X is using quite a lot of resources here. It's always > around 5% and I have AMD Athlon 1200 MHz and I am not even moving my > mouse or anything. Well, I think I may have spoken too soon (or too late, depending on your perspective). X seems much more well behaved now, and I saw in my latest --auto-select that xscreensaver was in the batch so perhaps the new version fixed it. At any rate, letting it run xscreensaver now, and then going back doesn't result in a few minutes of maxxed CPU... (5% usage is pretty minimal compared to what I was getting before). I think it's ok now tho. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ FE6F2AFD: "lynx -source http://linsec.ca/vdanen.asc | gpg --import" Fingerprint: 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD PGP.sig Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] Re: 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Install bootloader problem, mkinitrd problem
Alan Shoemaker wrote: > mandrakeexpert incident 30345 forwarded to cooker. > -- > Alan > > quoted text below > > "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > knekos : 28/08 11:16 : Incident created During > instalation of MDK9.0B4, in the phase "install bootloader", > instaler asked me for CDROM1. (there was CDROM3 in the > drive). So I put CDROM1 to the drive and press OK and > instaleer ask me again for CDROM1, so I offered him CDROM2 > and CDROM3 and it still asked me for CDROM1. I pressed > cancel and received some error that somethink is wrong with > mkinitrd... > > -end quoted text- additional info from mandrakeexpert incident 30347 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> knekos : 28/08 02:40 : More info provided This problem was only in "Expert mode" install, in "Recomanded mode" there was no problem. -end quoted text-
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-1.1-1mdk for mdk-8.2
Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > This same issue came up for Mozilla 1.0 How so? There are RPMs un unsupported, and I also had some up pretty early at http://ranger.dnslias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.2 > -- is there an archive > anywhere with Mozilla 1.1 compiled as an upgrade for Mandrake 8.2 > systems? Not yet, our mirror has only just synced up, I will take a look tonight. Of course, if you (or someone else) requests it on Mandrakeclub, I can put it up there, and as soon as it's out of testing, it will go onto the MandrakeClub section of unsuported. > I won't be ready to jump to mdk-9.0 for a while but I'd > rather use mdk RPMs than switch over to the cannonical Mozilla > installers. > But, Mozilla will break galeon, and probably nautilus also ... so give us some time. Now that I have Gnome2 (thanks to the Mandrake Club who rebuilt Fred's RPMs for 8.2 in /opt/gnome2), I might consider keeping my 8.2 install (as it has KDE3.0.3, KDE2.2.2, Gnome1.4 and Gnome2.0!) Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] xscreensaver debugging messages
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 20:48, Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: > > > You shouldn't have 2 xscreensavers versions.. > > > > > > Try to remove all xscreensavers package and reinstalling them.. > > > > Well ... > > > > urpme xscreensaver(-gl) > > > > urpmi xscreensaver (-gl) [from cooker] > > > > urpmq -r xscreensaver(-gl) > > > > still gives the two versions as above. > > > > But rpmdrake and GnoRPM both insist that only xscreensaver-4.05-5mdk and > > xscreensaver-gl-4.05-5mdk are installed! So I am stuck. (Does this > > suggest that the RPM database is confused?) > > Does > rpm -qa | grep xscreensaver > list both of them? I have had problems with rpmdrake (and thus I presume > urpmi) removing old versions of rpms when both a new and an old version > have been on the system at the same time under 8.2. Using the plain rpm -e > command worked correctly though. Only one ... very peculiar results :/ [root@localhost root]# rpm -qa | grep xscreensaver xscreensaver-gl-4.05-5mdk xscreensaver-4.05-5mdk [root@localhost root]# urpmq -r xscreensaver xscreensaver-4.05-5mdk|xscreensaver-4.05-3mdk [root@localhost root]# rpm -qa | grep xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-4.05-5mdk [root@localhost root]# urpmq -r xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-4.05-3mdk|xscreensaver-gl-4.05-5mdk Here's what's installed: [root@localhost root]# rpm -qa | grep rpm rpm-4.0.4-16mdk rpm-build-4.0.4-16mdk rpmdrake-2.0-13mdk rpmtools-4.5-2mdk grpmi-9.0-13mdk rpm-devel-4.0.4-16mdk gnorpm-0.96-10mdk urpmi-4.0-7mdk rpm-helper-0.5-1mdk rpm-python-4.0.4-16mdk rpmlint-0.47-1mdk gurpmi-4.0-7mdk Alastair
Re: [Cooker] rpmnew?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 13:57, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : > Le Mercredi 28 Août 2002 13:33, Robert Fox a écrit : > > Some files were changed with ".rpmnew" > > > > RPMDRAKE didn't say which files and although I found them, what are we > > supposed to do with them? Replace the older version? this would not be > > so clear for a newbie! > > the answer is not simple. > you customise a config file, if rpm replace it you need to redone > everything. But with a new version of the prog your old config file may be > obsolete/incompatible, but as you have the new have you can recustomise the > new one. > Imagine each time I upgrade samba , rpm replace my smb.conf,... that's a > pain. But with smb.conf.rpmnew I can for example add support for winbind ( > as there is more example ), etc ... Something could be done. Let's get clear we are not talking about the current release here. We could have MD5sums of config files installed stored somewhere, so we can check if that file has been modified or not. This way, files unmodified could be replaced by new ones and the user/admin would have only the truly modified files to check. CU CPHIL - -- Forgive him, for he believes that the customs of his tribe are the laws of nature! -- G.B. Shaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQE9bSCdYJwqltj/jHgRAm6fAJ92RZUzAbMntrkzMHy00/32lFCeMwCYn5eR HZ570d/IZ4uLOQ3ADrzaqw== =76bo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] contrib request
It's too late for 9.0, but I threw together a small srpm of an app that I found that fits perfectly into IceWM. The only thing that I have ever missed about IceWM was the lack of a run dialog (Alt-F2 in KDE for example). There is a keybinding for it, but it never worked. I didn't realize until last night that the reason is that the keybinding is simply a run dialog hook. It doesn't come with its own program to do this, it must be added by the user (and run icepref to add it into ~/.icewm/preferences). So asking around on IRC last night, Grimau pointed me to grun. This app hasn't been worked on since 1999. It compiles just fine. I found an older srpm and Mandrakeized it. If anybody cares to look it over and submit it as an official package (or possibly hack it into icewm, though I think that would be a better job for the icewm maintainers), it's available at http://downloads.mrball.net/Mandrake/8.2/ Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-5mdk msg72919/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Cooker is frozen / 9.0 schedule
On Wed Aug 28 17:07 +0200, Guy.Bormann wrote: > > Yes, hush, don't tell rsync that it can possibly be doing this. (-: > > Why do you always smile the other way? :-))) He's Australian... it's kind of like how water drains in the opposite direction and they drive on the wrong (not the right...) side of the road... :o) -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was her love, she was my queen. And now a thousand years between. Linux 2.4.19-2mdk 6:15pm up 6 days, 18:34, 11 users, load average: 2.51, 1.83, 1.57
Re: [Cooker] grpmi still core dumps, but works
Thomas R?sch wrote on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 05:48:14PM +0200 : > > > I still have a lot of core dumps of grmpi. > > which package were you trying to install? > Updates from today. I don't know which packet produced this core dump. I > have a lot of it. Go into the directory of the core dump. Run 'gdb'. Then type 'core core' (assuming that the name of the coredump is "core"). It will tell you which program is making the core dump. By any chance is it update-menus? Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-5mdk msg72917/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice.org-1.01-5mdk
Hi, > the latest OpenOffice.org RPM seems to require perl-XML-parser but does > not have this as an RPM req so software installer fails to install the > correct package, hence the program won't run unless it is installed :) OOo requires perl-XML-Twig. The latter shall require perl-XML-Parser since it's built on top of it. I won't add perl-XML-Parser as the Reqs to OOo, better fix perl-XML-Twig. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] No Sound in Mandrake 9 Beta 4 (?)
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 11:12 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > if you want to debug this, you can > - see what's the default driver with lspcidrake -v > - see what's the current configured driver in /etc/modules.conf with > fgrep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf > - see if it's loaded with /sbin/lsmod | fgrep cs > > as for missing /dev/mixer, if you use alsa, check that alsa service is > enabled (for oss compatibility modules). > else the odds're high that sound module isn't loaded I appreciate the pointers that I get just reading this list. It's an education I never would have gotten, thanks! I came to the party late by installing beta2 3 days after it was available. I've downloaded the ISOs for beta4 but haven't bothered since it seems just as easy (or more so) to keep updated through cooker. Will that make any difference? The system is current as of 12:54 MDT. I was wondering what all the shouting was about with the betas and SB Live; since I have a Live Value Digital out CT 4830 in this box and it's worked since 7.2 Freq install, so I started snooping/fiddling. It seems I was using the OSS (kernel) emu10k1 drivers all along. When I did my daily (or more) updates a couple hours ago I had to do the devfsd upgrade thing so I also switched to alsa and rebooted, upgraded everything available then changed lilo back, ran lilo, and rebooted again. I'm listening to the ogg files I've stashed on the "multi media" hard drive and it sounds better, and is cleaner and sharper, than anything ever has from this system. Digital out is working and if this ain't surround sound it's one hell of an emulation! My Altec Lansings and I are happy. I can tell 'cause the neighbors are p'oed about the "noise." :-) Not to belittle anyone's trouble but this works as the instructions here have stated. For me anyway. Outstanding job on 9.0 so far and it looks to get only better if that's possible. Thank you all! ABit BX6 Rev2 PIII 500 MHz 'suffuicient' memory 'enough' disk drives ;) Back to "lurking" for me. -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Tip the world over on its side and everything loose will land in Los Angeles. -- Frank Lloyd Wright
[Cooker] Video conferencing missing...
Hi, AS I see there is no msn client that support video conferencing. on windows I connect my camera to the firwire port and hop I could chat see and hear the other persone ...hum
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 22:24, Igor Izyumin wrote: > This mailing list server is not very good. /me hands Igor the Understatement Of The Decade award :) -- adamw
Re: [Cooker] gnome-terminal and Eterm so slow.
On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 21:26, Ben Reser wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:38:14PM -0500, Quel Qun wrote: > > It seems that the more we go the slower gnome-terminal and Eterm. > > It is becoming impossible to edit any file. Simply moving the > > cursor takes forever. > > > > Turning the transparency off in gnome-terminal speeds it a bit, > > but that is not true for Eterm. > > I'm not having any problems with Eterm. I use it all day everyday... Ditto here with gnome-terminal, on modest hardware (p2-400, 128mb ram), though I don't use any stupid eye-candy features. -- adamw
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Install bootloader problem, mkinitrd problem
mandrakeexpert incident 30345 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> knekos : 28/08 11:16 : Incident created During instalation of MDK9.0B4, in the phase "install bootloader", instaler asked me for CDROM1. (there was CDROM3 in the drive). So I put CDROM1 to the drive and press OK and instaleer ask me again for CDROM1, so I offered him CDROM2 and CDROM3 and it still asked me for CDROM1. I pressed cancel and received some error that somethink is wrong with mkinitrd... -end quoted text-
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Printing - Epson C40UX & Black and White /Grayscale test
mandrakeexpert incident 30362 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> knekos : 28/08 02:14 : Incident created MDK9.0B4: I have USB printer Epson C40UX. I use CUPL printing system. Printer is detected fine. There are some options to print, standart is colour mode. It works fine. I would like to use Black&White or Grayscale mode (to save expensive colour ink), but it seems that this doesn't work, I cannot print standart test page in that mode. Only the beginning of the test page is fine, than printer starts to scroll paper, That is not good. -end quoted text-
[Cooker] 9.0B4 Bug Report - SoundBlaster Live
In 9.0B3 and 9.0B4, the SoundBlaster Live! soundcard support seems to be broken. This card worked fine in 9.0B1 and earlier releases of Mandrake Linux. In 9.0B3, the SB Live wasn't detected during installation. In 9.0B4, it is detected and installed, but no sound results. :-( sndconfig reports: Sound Configuration Utility 0.68 (C) 2000 Red Hat, Inc. PCI Probe Results - A PCI sound card was found in your system. The details are: Model: Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) PCI Probe Results - The Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) is not currently supported. It would be great if this could be fixed before the final release of 9.0. Thanks much! Alvin
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
Igor Izyumin wrote on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 04:24:03PM -0500 : > > > > And Jason, PLEASE DON'T SET A REPLY-TO HEADER WHEN POSTING TO THIS LIST! > Why isn't the list simply configured to re-write the header? Couldn't > it just include both the stuff in the original reply-to and the cooker > email? > This mailing list server is not very good. It sets it if it's blank, but if a user wants to force replies away from the list and to him/herself, the mailing list manager allows him/her to do so. It's when that user has it set as default operation is when the problem occurs. Those of us using mutt don't even notice the improperly configured mailers :-/ Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-5mdk msg72908/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Re: konqueror clipboard fix please?
--- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah looks like SadEagle came up with the real > fix... waiting for the > maintainer to committ it. When that happens I'll > send you the link to > the the patch in the CVS archive. :) Awesome, thanks Ben :o) My only other major annoyance with Konq is being on a web form where you start typing and it offers a drop-down with possible auto-completions, you hit the down arrow to select one. It fills in the completion, leaves your cursor in the form and the drop-down box visible (with the thing you just selected blue). At this point in Konqueror 2.2.2 you can hit tab and move to the next form field. In 3.0.2, you can't, tab doesn't do anything, you're stuck. I mainly see this in Yahoo! Mail, which is why it's an annoyance :o) Can you reproduce this? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Cannot configure X for ATI driver
Alan Shoemaker wrote: > mandrakeexpert incident 30347 forwarded to cooker. > > quoted text below > > "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > knekos : 28/08 11:23 : Incident created I have ATI > Rage Pro 128 AGP card. I cannot install X server on > MDK9.0B4 as when I select ATI card driver (Mach64 Utah is > offered by autodetection, is it ok?), I choose a XFree > 4.2.0 (doesn't mather), and I receive an error "Can't call > method "isa" on an undefined interface". I press OK and I > MDK checks for update and than I have new try to configure > Xserver. I canot find a way how to configure it. > > -end quoted text- additional info from mandrakeexpert incident 30347 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> knekos : 28/08 02:23 : More info provided OK, I have this problem only in "Expert mode" of instalation. When I selected "Recomanded mode", instalation of Xwindows was without problem. I use modeule ATI Mach64 utah, it works fine with my card 3D Rage Pro AGP. (Maybe I was wrong my card is probably not Rage Pro 128). Anyway, I have not found a way to finish instalation in expert mode... -end quoted text-
Re: [Cooker] mozilla-1.1-1mdk for mdk-8.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Perhaps it will be on Mandrakeclub soon. On Wednesday 28 August 2002 17:53, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > This same issue came up for Mozilla 1.0 -- is there an archive > anywhere with Mozilla 1.1 compiled as an upgrade for Mandrake 8.2 > systems? I won't be ready to jump to mdk-9.0 for a while but I'd > rather use mdk RPMs than switch over to the cannonical Mozilla > installers. - -- Life exists for no known purpose. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9bRlvaeiN+EU2vEIRAmBZAJ9av9xFB4y1i00x4nMPxKwT28jnrQCfV5cf B0/2PibCGqsenfl5J1MXG+8= =BEb7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: mktemp does not work
Vincent Danen wrote on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 10:49:57AM -0600 : > > >I got a repeatable here: > >Please test: ``mktemp file.XXX'' > >I get: ``Cannot create temp file file.XXX'' > This is because you're using mktemp wrong. You need 6 X's... ie. > mktemp file.X > file.0AgVNF > Read the manpage... it indicates that 6 X's are required in the > template. This is new I believe (the requirement of 6). I've used it in the past with 4 X's and it worked fine. (Just wanted to let Han know that he wasn't crazy...errr...not too much at least :) Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-5mdk msg72904/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] OpenOffice.org-1.0.1-5mdk
--- Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Awesome!!! Where can we get more info. on how > this > > works (both OO.o and printerdrake)? > > LC_ALL= locale -k LC_PAPER returns the paper > dimensions for > . and then it translates that info. to a paper size setting? Cool. > printerdrake generates correct psprint.conf if > either OOo or SO is > found. But better ask Till for the internals. He is > printers master. ;-) Hehe, I was gonna try to implement that, he beat me to it. I wonder if it'll configure the paper size for other things too now (like KDE and Mozilla). You guys are doing really excellent work. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - Test disk fonts
mandrakeexpert incident 30344 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> knekos : 28/08 11:11 : Incident created There is a advanced option in the Format partition dialog during instalation. There are options to activate test of bad sectors on the partition. I think that there is somethink wrong with the font of the options, it look strange, I don't like it. This is beta4 report but I remember that there was the same problem in MDK8.3 release too. Petr -end quoted text-
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - Mouse wheel problem
mandrakeexpert incident 30353 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> knekos : 28/08 01:04 : Incident created MDK9.0B4: I have mouse wheel (Genius Optical NetScroll Eye), so I change during install mouse from Standard to Generic PS2 Wheel Mouse. Than I press OK and I see a picture of mouse and I can test my mouse. BUT when I start to test, mouse driver is in many cases lost. I know that Generic Wheel PS2 mouse driver works as it sometimes works well and I use it on MDK8.2. But in most cases it doesn't work good, my mouse pointer is moving randomly, buttons are pressed randomly and sometimes even OK button is pressed. In such case I have mouse that doesn't work and I cannot go back to repair seting. And I have to reboot and start install again. In the case taht driver works good, there are no problems with it at all. But I have to try several install befere such match. I don't like this... -end quoted text-
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Cannot configure X for ATI driver
mandrakeexpert incident 30347 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Petr Slansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> knekos : 28/08 11:23 : Incident created I have ATI Rage Pro 128 AGP card. I cannot install X server on MDK9.0B4 as when I select ATI card driver (Mach64 Utah is offered by autodetection, is it ok?), I choose a XFree 4.2.0 (doesn't mather), and I receive an error "Can't call method "isa" on an undefined interface". I press OK and I MDK checks for update and than I have new try to configure Xserver. I canot find a way how to configure it. -end quoted text-
Re: [Cooker] Re: konqueror clipboard fix please?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 11:56:44AM +0200, Laurent Montel wrote: > I don't know this code : ask to kde developper please. Yeah looks like SadEagle came up with the real fix... waiting for the maintainer to committ it. When that happens I'll send you the link to the the patch in the CVS archive. :) -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
Re: [Cooker] grpmi still core dumps, but works
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm seeing this as well. Actually My whole /root dir is usually cluttered with grpmi cores. I run an updated cooker (packages never more than 2 days old) and have 8 new core dumps today;) Danny On Wednesday 28 August 2002 17:00, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Thomas Rösch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I still have a lot of core dumps of grmpi. > > > > > > which package were you trying to install? > > > > Updates from today. I don't know which packet produced this core dump. I > > have a lot of it. > > hmm, not easy to debug in that conditions.. > > > > what do you mean by "but works"? > > > > I can install/update packets without problems. No program complain about > > core dumps. > > muf. is it not an old core dump by any chance? - -- We're all in this alone. -- Lily Tomlin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9bQanaeiN+EU2vEIRAnmjAJ9Msipk+1Ac3ZlhdvIeCe1OWYtyOgCbBodn Wccz7Xkc1xuTtQVuRBlTgeY= =eBCF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
--- Igor Izyumin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And Jason, PLEASE DON'T SET A REPLY-TO HEADER WHEN POSTING TO THIS LIST! > > > Why isn't the list simply configured to re-write the > header? Couldn't it just > include both the stuff in the original reply-to and > the cooker email? Probably, but think about it. If someone has their address and reply-to set to the same address, that's just wrong. If they're mailing the Cooker list and they have some other reply-to set, they should have probably just subscribed to the Cooker list with that address in the first place. So the list server probably *could* do that, but it'd probably be doing extra work it didn't need to do, and it may cause people to get messages twice. > This mailing list server is not very good. I won't argue __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 04:24:03PM -0500, Igor Izyumin wrote: > Why isn't the list simply configured to re-write the header? Couldn't it just > include both the stuff in the original reply-to and the cooker email? So that people who need to get offlist replies can set a Reply-To header and then the reply function will go to them. I do it whenver I want someone to send me something off list to help debug. Just go look through all the many debates about this that have occured. They're in the archive... -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org If your love has no hope of being welcomed do not voice it; for if it be silent it can endure, a guarded flame, within you. - The Wisdom of the Sands
[Cooker] 9.0 BETA - Bug report / XFree 86 - X Font Server bug
mandrakeexpert incident 30334 forwarded to cooker. -- Alan quoted text below "Pascal de Bruijn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pakkie : 28/08 08:43 : Incident created Hi, My Mandrake 9 Beta 3 system wont start X properly. Then it errors and i get a change to reconfigure. When i change nothing and simply click "test", i see the FontServer getting restarted. Then X works perfectly. I changed NONE of the settings! This tells me there is a bug in the default startup of XFS? Right? -end quoted text-
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] OpenOffice.org-1.0.1-5mdk
> Awesome!!! Where can we get more info. on how this > works (both OO.o and printerdrake)? LC_ALL= locale -k LC_PAPER returns the paper dimensions for . printerdrake generates correct psprint.conf if either OOo or SO is found. But better ask Till for the internals. He is printers master. ;-)
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 07:26 am, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 12:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Has anyone contacted the developer of the algorithm in question?? If > > not, this is all shooting in the dark. I wanna know if Mandrake has > > contacted this Frauenwhoever to ask if "Free" decoding software is > > indeed excluded from possible litigation??. If it is, then this thread > > is a waste of time. > > Heh - I just noticed it's out very own Gotz Washck who posted this to > slashdot in the first place :). Maybe he can clarify. Why do you post > this now when, as I mentioned, archive.org seems to show the terms > changed in August last year? Is it wrong? > > And Jason, PLEASE DON'T SET A REPLY-TO HEADER WHEN POSTING TO THIS LIST! Why isn't the list simply configured to re-write the header? Couldn't it just include both the stuff in the original reply-to and the cooker email? This mailing list server is not very good. -- -- Igor
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] OpenOffice.org-1.0.1-5mdk
--- Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --=-=-= > Name: OpenOffice.org > * Wed Aug 28 2002 Gwenole Beauchesne > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0.1-5mdk > > - Define paper size to use based on the current > locale, and provided > you don't have any printer configured yet. > Otherwise, printerdrake > will still generate the right default values. Awesome!!! Where can we get more info. on how this works (both OO.o and printerdrake)? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] thoughts on mp3 issue
Danny Tholen wrote on Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 12:47:47PM +0200 : > > > You can't decode MP3 without using the patented algorithm. MP3 is > > essentially audio data compressed with a certain algorithm. The *only* > ehm: > 2*2=4 (Patented * algorithm) > 2+2=4 (Free + algorithm!) > ( a bit simplistic, but you get the idea). Ah, but you're looking at it a little bit too simply. x^3-x^2+y != x+y^2 but for one number (actually two). The algorithm that moves between the left domain and the right domain is what is patented (ie from a pure wav file to a compressed mp3 file). The interesting part about this algorithm is that it is reversible as well (but with some loss in quality). This is directly opposite to things like an MD5 hash or a DES3 hash, which is a one way encryption. The fact that the MP3 algorithm is two way is a big deal and took a lot of research and money to come up with. They are just trying to make their money back. Now, having said that, I think software patents should be illegal because the patent system was intended to protect a tangible product, not an algorithm. The current patent law was designed when the development time thru production to actual market was in years. Now that it is in months (or shorter), it penalizes business to have competitors and rewards shoddy workmanship just because it was first. Blue skies... Todd -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.0-0.3mdk Kernel 2.4.19-5mdk msg72891/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] New SBLive problems + followup
As I said in another message, with the OSS module loaded (which works fine) O-Gain controls the black hole on the sound card (I guess for 3rd + 4th speaker aka surround sound). With the ALSA module loaded, O-Gain is not available. --- James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had this problem before in 8.2 etc ... O-Gain > needs to be set > lower. IF it is above about 40% you start to get a > lot of static in the > sound. (use kmix to set this it's easier to adjust > than aumix) > > James > > > On Wed, 2002-08-28 at 09:53, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > > David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Interesting program. If I turn down master, > PCM, or wav, I lose the > > > music and keep the static. > > > > turn down everything until you find the static > source > > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] New SBLive problems + followup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 28 August 2002 18:40, David Walser wrote: > Yes, arts and sox do by default. hmm.should arts autodetect ALSA? > > Note that that's in contrib, but I tried it. just to try if it happens native as well. > Yeah, always the first thing I change :o) They seem > to be soundwrappering all kinds of stuff now :o( me 2, soundwrap is silly when u have hardware mixing:) > Not sure what you mean here. > Computer->subwoofer->left speaker > \->right speaker I meant: The sblive has a lot of output channels: 1) digital out 2) first analog output jack 3) second analog output jack If u are using 2 or 3, try switching to see if it matters. > > Interesting program. Totally incomprehensible if you ask me. But it can do a lot of stuff. > If I turn down master, PCM, or > wav, I lose the music and keep the static. Now that is interesting. I would have suggested: check your speaker plugs, but as it works with OSS I have no idea what is causing it. Perhaps one of the other mixer channels is doing something funny. (ie: you do not have a microphone attached that is causing it?) Danny - -- Superstition, idolatry, and hypocrisy have ample wages, but truth goes a-begging. -- Martin Luther -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9bSFHaeiN+EU2vEIRAkZPAKCNN5Y0Nlo4UTI9LiJlTrKehNJiOQCcD6Th Zx1ah8eRxG7PoaqSONS1SMY= =fWda -END PGP SIGNATURE-
