[Cooker] GNOME2 bugs/remarks

2002-10-01 Thread Michal Bukovjan

Hi cooker,

just installed MDK9.0 and it looks great. There are some problems I ran 
into:

1. No way to switch window managers. I looked at a lot of places, but 
there is metacity running and no way to switch to something else (via a GUI)
2. Sawfish advanced options will not work. In GNOME Control center, 
going to Advanced/Sawfish and clicking on any icon has no effect :-(
I even tried to remove ~/.sawfish, still the same.

Michal Bukovjan





[Cooker] why is minilodg using some much memory

2002-10-01 Thread Luis Alves

root 10345  0.0 39.8 760340 361204 ? SSep29   0:14 minilogd

why is minilod using 700 Mega of memory in my mandrake box?
and what is the use for this process?








Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] spamassassin-2.50-0.1mdk

2002-10-01 Thread Han Boetes

Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On onsdagen den 2 oktober 2002 02.46 Ben Reser wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:15:40AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> >
> > 2.50 isn't a release version. It's a nightly CVS build. So if you're
> >   going to put it in it really ought to be listed as  a  pre-release
> >   or named "hackspamassassin"
>
> Why? Cooker = Devel, not?

  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/fluxbox/debuggers/fluxbox-20020527-1.src.rpm

I use this fluxbox-rpm for my own purposes of testing the cvs  versions.
But I don't think that it is a wise decission to let  the  rest  of  the
world use this srpm ;)



Groetjes, Han.
-- 
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software




Re: [Cooker] devfsd.conf

2002-10-01 Thread Alan Hughes

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Polman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] devfsd.conf


> On Monday 30 Sep 2002 2:04 pm, Biagio Lucini wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Now that 9.0 is out ...
> > >
> > > Minor spelling corrections in English version.
> > >
> > >
> > > Initialize not initialise
> > > Minimize not minimise
> > > Maximize not maximise
> >
> > Did you say English or American? :-)
> >
> > Biagio
>
> Hopefully English ...
>
> We Canadians tend to speak a little of both though!
> I have seen initialisation and initialization but not initialise (I know
it
> doesn't make sense, but ...)
> I have never seen minimise or maximise. Are these supposed to be English
or
> American spellings?

English spellings tend to use -ise, American -ize. However the Oxford
English Dictionary does allow some -ize's as an alternative.






Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] spamassassin-2.50-0.1mdk

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 07:36:51AM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> It is not because cooker is supposed to be "unstable" that we should put
> know unstable code, moreover CVS snapshot which are not versioned as
> snapshot CVS in their %release (ie with date in MMDD)..

Believe or not the spamassassin people call it 2.50 on their website.
It's versioning hell IMHO.  But that's what they are doing.

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] spamassassin-2.50-0.1mdk

2002-10-01 Thread Frederic Crozat

Le Tue, 01 Oct 2002 18:19:26 +, Ben Reser a ecrit :

> On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 03:05:22AM +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:
>> Why? Cooker = Devel, not?
> 
> Well you're assuming that I don'tt hink it's a good idea to be putting
> pre-releases in cooker.  Which I didn't say but you are correct anyway.
> Without a good reason I don't think we should be putting pre-release
> versions in.  If this was say KDE then I'd think it'd make sense because
> KDE is not trivial to package so we need the extra time to get it right.
> Or if it resolved a bug... but I'm not really seeing anythign wrong with
> 2.41 that 2.50 fixes... and spamassasin is trivial to package.

I have to agree with that..

It is not because cooker is supposed to be "unstable" that we should put
know unstable code, moreover CVS snapshot which are not versioned as
snapshot CVS in their %release (ie with date in MMDD)..

Yes, SA 2.41 may not be perfect but there was absolutely NO reason to
upgrade to a CVS snapshot for it (all other modifications are ok for
me..).. 

It means I will force downgrade to 2.42 when is it released unless Olivier
give me really good arguments for CVS snapshot...

And FYI, I think all "hack*" package should be killed :))

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft





[Cooker] Drakconf /usr/sbin/clock.pl

2002-10-01 Thread Yura Gusev

In /usr/sbin/clock.pl
use strict; is disabled but few errors are easy to fix.

I just had to add
my $pressed;  
  
 #declare a variablemy $type;

after that only two errors left. Maybe Drakconf author can fix this when
he will have some time?






Re: [Cooker] Searching the archives

2002-10-01 Thread tarvid

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 08:34 pm, Levi Ramsey wrote:
> On Tue Oct 01 20:11 -0400, o beckles wrote:
> > Is there a way to search the mailing list archives?
>
> A searchable archive can be found at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com
>
> Just select "mandrake cooker" from the Linux Distribution section.
Thank you!

That is a wonderful resource.

Jim Tarvid




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] spamassassin-2.50-0.1mdk

2002-10-01 Thread Olivier Thauvin

Le Mercredi 2 Octobre 2002 01:05, Oden Eriksson a écrit :
> On onsdagen den 2 oktober 2002 02.46 Ben Reser wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:15:40AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> > 2.50 isn't a release version.  It's a nightly CVS build.  So if you're
> > going to put it in it really ought to be listed as a pre-release or
> > named "hackspamassassin"
>
> Why? Cooker = Devel, not?

He want to said 0.pre1 as release tag is better, and he is right.
This remove doubt about the state of soft (from cvs, pre-release or stable).
As he answered to himself, it is tag as 0.1mdk. I don't know the better way, I 
don't know if the next stable version will be tag as 2.50 or highter... but 
release will be 1mdk.

Cooker is the devel of distro, that's why I packaged it as it, but it is not 
for testing apps. If I compare to debian, we don't have a really 'unstable 
version' of mandrake, and actuall cooker will be 9.1 in about six month. If 
the stable release of application is not out before, we'll have a unstable 
software in stable distro, this is not a good thing.
Of course spamassassins is not a problem.
I hope you understand me... hard for me to explain in english.

-- 
Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer
une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL.
Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/




Re: [Cooker] pppoatm-enabled ppp

2002-10-01 Thread Jean-Michel Dault

Yes, I replied to the message, though it seems the mail was eaten by the
server.

I was assigned the ppp package, but since there was no new version or
official patch, I haven't got the opportunity to work on the package.

Your pppoatm patch is interesting, and will be included soon. It hasn't
been included at the time because Cooker was in deep freeze. Now that
9.0 is out, I'll put it in, as well as some kernel pppoe that someone
asked.

Jean-Michel


Le mar 01/10/2002 à 04:18, Guillaume Rousse a écrit :
> Le Mardi 1 Octobre 2002 08:29, Florin a écrit :
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guillaume Rousse) writes:
> > > Could ppp maintainer review my ppp-2.4.1-6plf.src.rpm package from PLF,
> > > with pppoatm-support, for official mdk inclusion ?
> >
> > i'd rather send this to the packager itself ... (rpmmon)
> That was i originaly did, but rpmmon -p tells jmdault is maintainer whereas he 
> never appears in changelog. As bugzilla base is quite unreliable, and as i 
> never had any reply so far, i prefer to send it to the list instead.
> -- 
> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html
> 





Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] spamassassin-2.50-0.1mdk

2002-10-01 Thread Oden Eriksson

On onsdagen den 2 oktober 2002 02.46 Ben Reser wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:15:40AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> 2.50 isn't a release version.  It's a nightly CVS build.  So if you're
> going to put it in it really ought to be listed as a pre-release or
> named "hackspamassassin"

Why? Cooker = Devel, not?

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Deserve-IT Networks -> http://d-srv.com




[Cooker] modules_for_apache2

2002-10-01 Thread Oden Eriksson

Hi.

I made a simple summary page presenting what modules we have for apache2.

http://d-srv.com/modules_for_apache2.html

Chears.
-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Deserve-IT Networks -> http://d-srv.com




[Cooker] HP 9100i CDRW on MSI k7t266 pro2 mobo --> lockup

2002-10-01 Thread H. Narfi Stefansson

Hi,
I'm now running 9.0, but I can't get it to work while my CD writer is 
connected to my motherboard [Most likely, I also had this problem with 
8.2, but my hardware setup was different there, so it's not the best to 
compare]
I was unable to install with the drive connected to the motherboard, so I 
disconnected, installed without it and have since tried to reconnect the 
drive and boot. All those attempts have resulted in lockups.

I tried all combinations of apic/noapic in the bios and as a boot parameter 
to linux as well as with and without supermount.
The net result:
supermount has no effect on this freeze.
Booting with/without noapic in lilo has no effect either.
With APIC off in the bios, I can't even boot, but with APIC on in the bios, 
I can start and log into the console, but logging into KDE freezes the 
computer.   
The last message in the logs before the freeze is (unsurprisingly):
Oct  1 17:45:56 localhost kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12

I put the output of dmesg up on the web:
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~narfi/dmesg.txt
and 
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~narfi/dmesg_noapic.txt
for the 2 cases where supermount was enabled, apic enabled in bios and lilo 
was run with or without the "noapic" parameter.

Please let me know if you need any more info
Narfi.




[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] spamassassin-2.50-0.1mdk

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:15:40AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> [Contrib-RPM]
> 
> --=-=-=
> Name: spamassassin Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 2.50  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 0.1mdkBuild Date: Wed Oct  2 02:01:15 2002
> Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: klama.mandrake.org
> Group   : Networking/Mail   Source RPM: (none)
> Size: 461274   License: Artistic
> Packager: Olivier Thauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://spamassassin.org/
> Summary : A spam filter for email which can be invoked from mail delivery agents
> Description :
> SpamAssassin provides you with a way to reduce if not completely eliminate
> Unsolicited Commercial Email (SPAM) from your incoming email.  It can
> be invoked by a MDA such as sendmail or postfix, or can be called from
> a procmail script, .forward file, etc.  It uses a genetic-algorithm
> evolved scoring system to identify messages which look spammy, then
> adds headers to the message so they can be filtered by the user's mail
> reading software.  This distribution includes the spamd/spamc components
> which create a server that considerably speeds processing of mail.
> 
> SpamAssassin also includes support for reporting spam messages
> automatically, and/or manually, to collaborative filtering databases such
> as Vipul's Razor or DCC. Install perl-Razor-Agent to get Vipul's Razor support
> 
> --=-=-=
> 
> * Thu Oct 03 2002 Olivier Thauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.50-0.1mdk
> 
> - 2.50 (devel release)
> - Readd my changelog for 2.30-2mdk (fcrozat ??!!)
> - remove Patch0,1,2: obsoletes
> - Add flags for 8.2 release
> - remove conflict with itself
> - Add reload entry in initscript

2.50 isn't a release version.  It's a nightly CVS build.  So if you're
going to put it in it really ought to be listed as a pre-release or
named "hackspamassassin"

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] Cervisia removed from 9.0?

2002-10-01 Thread Luis M

>From: Tim Stoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Hi people,
>
>I just did an update of my system (from 8.2 to 9.0, report is being made), 
>but
>I noticed that Cervisia isn't in the install list? Why was it removed from
>the package-list?
>
It was never removed, just renamed (the package):
$> rpm -qf /usr/bin/cervisia
kdesdk-3.0.3-5mdk

to install it just do:
#> urpmi cervisia

it's inside kdesdk, and it depends on kdelibs...

since I don't use KDE (don't even install it), I have to install Cervisia 
like that...

hope that helps...
>--
>Regards,
>Tim Stoop
>
>PGP public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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[Cooker] Searching the archives

2002-10-01 Thread o beckles



Is there a way to search the mailing list 
archives?


[Cooker] Re: supermount

2002-10-01 Thread Danny Tholen

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 11:58, Borzenkov Andrey wrote:
Andrey,
I tried the patch you posted to cooker, but I think it is not the one you are 
referring to here.
Anyway, it didn't fix the problem that a large number of files cannot be stat-ed:
>cp -R /mnt/cdrom/* .
cp: cannot stat `/mnt/cdrom/data/gaians.flc': No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat `/mnt/cdrom/data/gaians.pcx': No such file or directory
etc.

So the problem remains unsolved for now.

> You may be hit by remaining problem (I did send patch for it
> together with others and as with others never heard anything about it
>

Danny





Re: [Cooker] Bug confirmations: digital noise / drakconf locale

2002-10-01 Thread Reinout van Schouwen

Hello Daouda,

On 1 Oct 2002, Daouda LO wrote:

> It was slovenian locale and i answer that it was not reproductible on
> my machine using locale-sl with localedrake (same with nl locale).
> It seems that the bug shows when install is done with these locales

FWIW, I see the problem as well after an urpmi --auto-select. The last
complete install I did was with RC1.


-- 

Reinout van SchouwenArtificial Intelligence student
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile phone: +31-6-44360778
GPG public key http://www.cs.vu.nl/~reinout/reinout.asc





Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Fox

Thought about that one already . . if all Gkrellms are closed and I
logout of KDE - then re-login - NO Gkrellms start.

I also check .kde/Autostart - nothing

I also check the ksmserverrc file - there are no entries

Any other good ideas?

Thx,
R.Fox


On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 23:22, Marco Romeny wrote:
> 
>   What happens if you close all Gkrellm and
> save session -> relogin? If you still get one Gkrellm
> then it might be something else than the sessionthingie..
> 
> /m
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Robert Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 22:26
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior
> 
> 
> > I swear I'm not crazy here.
> > 
> > I have shutdown all Gkrellm instances and start ONLY one.
> > 
> > Then I logout of KDE (with the "save session" checked) and relogin
> > 
> > Gkrellm then starts TWICE.
> > 
> > Maybe I have to delete the .gkrellm config files . . .
> > 
> > Very odd.
> > 
> > R.Fox
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:35, Ben Reser wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:53:25PM +0200, Robert Fox wrote:
> > > > I always leave Gkrellm running on my KDE desktop - and recently (updated
> > > > to 9.0 Final) everything was fine.
> > > > 
> > > > Now when I log out of KDE and re-login as same user - Gkrellm starts up
> > > > twice (two instances)
> > > > 
> > > > I recall this happening way back on KDE 2.2.2 but haven't seen it until
> > > > now.
> > > 
> > > I use gkrellm and I can't replicate this...  Sounds like you got 2
> > > copies running at some time and then haven't saved the session since
> > > then.  Make sure when you log out that only one copy of gkrellm is
> > > running and that you check the save session checkbox.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > http://ben.reser.org
> > > 
> > > Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 






Re: [Cooker] everybuddy segfaults

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 06:13:50AM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote:
> Downloads from MandrakeClub seem to be available to the public.  Explore 
> your mirror and you should find the 'unsupported - MandrakeClub' directory.

Yeah but he can't vote and I was saying that I'd put it on the club if
enough people voted.  He has the RPM for now anyone because he got it
from my site.

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:38:23PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> I don't agree. There are some people who don't have a permanent
> net connection.

Huh?  What does a permanent net connection have to do with it?  If you
mean people submitting bug reports when not online... those people can
use rpmmon.  But the vast majority of these people are going to be far
to lazy to download and install an application just to find out who the
maintainer is.  rpmmon isn't even included in the distro because you
consider it to be limited usefulness for most people...  It would be a
different story if it was included in cooker and was installed by
default.

Putting the webscript up is not mutually exclusive of rpmmon.

> Yep, the problem being when the percentage is very close to 0. I
> think that the few persons who are willing to respect the rules
> already "know" them because after all they are just plain logical
> rules.

Well you are far more a pessimist than I am.

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

2002-10-01 Thread Marco Romeny


  What happens if you close all Gkrellm and
save session -> relogin? If you still get one Gkrellm
then it might be something else than the sessionthingie..

/m


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 22:26
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior


> I swear I'm not crazy here.
> 
> I have shutdown all Gkrellm instances and start ONLY one.
> 
> Then I logout of KDE (with the "save session" checked) and relogin
> 
> Gkrellm then starts TWICE.
> 
> Maybe I have to delete the .gkrellm config files . . .
> 
> Very odd.
> 
> R.Fox
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:35, Ben Reser wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:53:25PM +0200, Robert Fox wrote:
> > > I always leave Gkrellm running on my KDE desktop - and recently (updated
> > > to 9.0 Final) everything was fine.
> > > 
> > > Now when I log out of KDE and re-login as same user - Gkrellm starts up
> > > twice (two instances)
> > > 
> > > I recall this happening way back on KDE 2.2.2 but haven't seen it until
> > > now.
> > 
> > I use gkrellm and I can't replicate this...  Sounds like you got 2
> > copies running at some time and then haven't saved the session since
> > then.  Make sure when you log out that only one copy of gkrellm is
> > running and that you check the save session checkbox.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > http://ben.reser.org
> > 
> > Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
> > 
> 
> 
> 





[Cooker] Genius Scanner

2002-10-01 Thread Antonio A Todo Bom

I tried to intall a paralelal scanner, KYE-Genius ColorPage Vivid Pro that uses a 
Primax 9600 ppi chipset, but the DrakConf said:
- this scanner is not supported in this distribution

How can I install it:

1 - Can i find a filter, backend or anythink to install with Mdk original sane
2 - I need to download and install another sane (maybe from 
http://www.mostang.com/sane)
3 - I need to install another SW, like VueScan

Best regards,

Antonio Augusto Todo Bom Neto
LAX Eletronica e Telecomunicacoes Ltda
gEDA-BR - Users Group - http://gedabr.projetos.etc.br




Re: [Cooker] FINAL bug: libintl and other packages cause errors ininstaller

2002-10-01 Thread Aleksander Adamowski

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

>Why? Because you use an absolute symlink! **Never** use absolute
>symlinks, it's bad. Use relative symlinks.
>
My bad. I'll avoid absolute symlinks in future.

>Francois -> a check in the upgrade should be put at the beginning
>to test if /mnt/tmp is available, and issue an error if not.
>Aleksander would probably have guessed the origin of the problem
>and fix it himself.
>
If the error had mentioned, /mnt/tmp, yes, I'd track it instantly.





[Cooker] Re: 9.0 BETA - Bug report / Installation - RC1/RC2 XFree and EPIA Mini-ITX mainboard

2002-10-01 Thread Alan Shoemaker

Alan Shoemaker wrote:
> mandrakeexpert incident 31664 forwarded to cooker.
>
> when replying, please cc this email address:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> quoted text below
>
>  Demmpw : 12/09 05:45 : Incident created
> Hi,
> I have been unable to install Mandrake 9.0 b1/b2/b3/b4 and
> now RC1/RC2 on a
> EPIA
> Mini-ITX
> mainboard from VIA.
>
>
>
> I have tried "recommended" and "Expert" installation but
> with the same result.
>
> I get following error
> "There was an error installing XFree86-4.2.0-25mdk.i586 go
> on anyway"
>
>
> The Mainboard runs 8.2 without any problems.
>
> Here are the Mainboard spec:
>
> VIA EPIA Mini-ITX
> VIA C3
> VIA Apollo PLE133 North Bridge
> ATA-100/66/33
> VIA VT8231 South Bridge
> VIA AC-97 Audio Onboard
> VIA 10/100 Ethernet LAN
> VIA TV Out
> PC1300/100 SDRAM
>
> I have tried different CD-Rom media incl. RW cd's.
> I have used 3 different VIA EPIA mainboards and CD rom
> drives but without
> any luck.
>
> -end quoted text-

additional info from mandrakeexpert incident forwarded
to cooker.

when replying, please cc this email address:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

quoted text below

 Demmpw : 01/10 04:50 : More info provided Mandrake 9.0 is 
now final and the problem still exists. I've tried installing 
from ftp, upgrading from 8.2 (which installs correctly), 
textmode and various other ways.

The problem is the same: "There was an error installing 
packages:
XFree86-4.2.1-3mdk.i586" (the version might have changed in 
9.0 final).

If I answer yes at "Go on any way" the installation continues, 
but later I get another error "An error occurred - mkinitrd 
failed". From here the installation loops between this error 
message and a dialog where I can add bootloader entries.

Additional options tried:
- Optimized and Failsafe settings in bios
- Different Harddisk drives (small, large etc)

If you need logs of the installation please let me know how to 
make these since I don't have a running system to get them 
from. A link to a howto or FAQ is fine.

With the final release of 9.0 still not working, I am willing 
to send a motherboard to the developers if this can help. 
Please let know how procedures are for this. (If there are 
any.)

-end quoted text-

-- 
Alan




[Cooker] 9.0 - graphic mode & non privilegied users

2002-10-01 Thread Sebastien Paolacci

Hello everybody,

I made a full 9.0 install from a clean system with authentification via NIS 
and home directories are mounted from a NFS server. 

All seems great (even more than that), but my only problem is that I can't 
reach any graphical mode with a non root user. X start well (it seems for 
me), but after the blue wallpaper ... nothing (even not the KDE 
splashscreen).

The mousse is still ok, everything work, but the graphic session will stay 
like this until I kill it.

I use a similar (if not identical) config that the which for 8.2 where I 
didn't have this problem.

Does anyone has the same problem, or an idea in order to help me to make it 
work ?

Thanks,

Sebastien

The two attached files are the XFree86.log and the list of process running 
when the system "freeze" after launching X server and KDE.



process.log.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


XFree86.0.log.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

2002-10-01 Thread Gregory K. Meyer

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 04:26 pm, Robert Fox wrote:
> I swear I'm not crazy here.
>
> I have shutdown all Gkrellm instances and start ONLY one.
>
> Then I logout of KDE (with the "save session" checked) and relogin
>
> Gkrellm then starts TWICE.
>
> Maybe I have to delete the .gkrellm config files . . .
>
Check ~/.kde/share/ksmserverrc for duplicate entries.  I had a problem similar 
once and there were dup entries in that file.
-- 
Gregory Meyer
___
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Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Fox

I swear I'm not crazy here.

I have shutdown all Gkrellm instances and start ONLY one.

Then I logout of KDE (with the "save session" checked) and relogin

Gkrellm then starts TWICE.

Maybe I have to delete the .gkrellm config files . . .

Very odd.

R.Fox


On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 21:35, Ben Reser wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:53:25PM +0200, Robert Fox wrote:
> > I always leave Gkrellm running on my KDE desktop - and recently (updated
> > to 9.0 Final) everything was fine.
> > 
> > Now when I log out of KDE and re-login as same user - Gkrellm starts up
> > twice (two instances)
> > 
> > I recall this happening way back on KDE 2.2.2 but haven't seen it until
> > now.
> 
> I use gkrellm and I can't replicate this...  Sounds like you got 2
> copies running at some time and then haven't saved the session since
> then.  Make sure when you log out that only one copy of gkrellm is
> running and that you check the save session checkbox.
> 
> -- 
> Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://ben.reser.org
> 
> Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.
> 






Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Le Mardi 1 Octobre 2002 21:35, Ben Reser a écrit :
> On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:53:25PM +0200, Robert Fox wrote:
> > I always leave Gkrellm running on my KDE desktop - and recently (updated
> > to 9.0 Final) everything was fine.
> >
> > Now when I log out of KDE and re-login as same user - Gkrellm starts up
> > twice (two instances)
> >
> > I recall this happening way back on KDE 2.2.2 but haven't seen it until
> > now.
>
> I use gkrellm and I can't replicate this...  Sounds like you got 2
> copies running at some time and then haven't saved the session since
> then.  Make sure when you log out that only one copy of gkrellm is
> running and that you check the save session checkbox.
And that you don't launch gkrellm additionaly at beginning of every sesstion 
by a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart...
-- 
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Re: [Cooker] everybuddy segfaults

2002-10-01 Thread Ron Stodden

Brook Humphrey wrote:

> Thanks but unfortunately for people like me I'm not a member. 

Downloads from MandrakeClub seem to be available to the public.  Explore 
your mirror and you should find the 'unsupported - MandrakeClub' directory.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - Voodoo 3 - "No devices detected"

2002-10-01 Thread Ron Stodden

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>Adding a BusID line fixed the problem.   However, if a BusID line
>>is necessary with Voodoo3 (Generic) the installer should have
>>generated it into XFConfig-4, surely?
> 
> Can you copy the BusIS line please?

BusId:PCI:1:0:0
This is the only device on PCI Bus 1 (the AGP slot).

> What's strange is that I have a 
> 
> Card:Voodoo3 (generic): 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.|Voodoo 3 [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:121a 
>device:0005 subv:121a subd:003a)
> 
> in this very machine and I have no busid line in my Xfree config
> file...

The problem seems to be that I have 3 primary devices (I don't know what 
characterises a device as 'primary') on my PCI bus, and X could not 
determine which was the video card, so I had to tell it.

 From var/log/XF86.0.log:

(!!) More than one primary device found
(--) PCI: (0:10:0) BrookTree unknown chipset (0x036e) rev 2, Mem @ 
0xdb022000/12
(--) PCI: (0:11:0) Creative Labs unknown chipset (0x0002) rev 8, I/O @ 
0xac00/5
(--) PCI: (1:0:0) 3dfx Interactive Voodoo3 rev 1, Mem @ 0xd400/25, 
0xd800/25, I/O @ 0x9000/8

and:

(II) LoadModule: "tdfx"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o
(II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) LoadModule: "mouse"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o
(II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.3
(II) v4l driver for Video4Linux
(II) TDFX: Driver for 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3 chipsets: 3dfx Banshee,
3dfx Voodoo3, 3dfx Voodoo5
(II) Primary Device is:
(WW) TDFX: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

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Re: [Cooker] Problem with 9.0 using dd to floppy

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

John Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I executed the following command
> dd if=/var/ftp/pub/mirrors/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/images/network.img 
> of=/dev/fd0
> 
> It returned immediately with
> 2880+0 records in
> 2880+0 records out
> 
> Not possible I thought to myself; and was I right.
> A quick sync, and lo and behold lots of floppy activity.

I had similar problems with -9mdk. Thr kernel's floppy driver was
lost in space. Check your dmesg for that. For me, I had to reboot
(windoze sensation) :-((.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] FINAL bug: libintl and other packages cause errors ininstaller

2002-10-01 Thread Aleksander Adamowski

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

>Why? Because you use an absolute symlink! **Never** use absolute
>symlinks, it's bad. Use relative symlinks.
>  
>
Now I have the freshly upgraded 9.0 available to my delight :) So I've 
checked the "symlinks" utility if it can help me make sense with those 
absolute symlinks.

But it will only relativise symlinks within the same filesystem - It 
won't touch a symlink if it points to other fs.
So it seems that someone has decided that absolute symlinks are 
preferred when they point outside the given filesystem. Consistency reasons?

What you say, Guillaume?





Re: [Cooker] Bug confirmations: digital noise / drakconf locale

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:35:18PM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> Well, Ben Reser confirmed there was no problem with 2.4.19-3mdk kernel, so
> this is a ALSA bug..

Actually 3mdk was fine.  5mdk was not.  So I think 4mdk was where the
bug was introduced.  But I don't have 4mdk here so I can't test it.

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:56:05PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > What percentage of ppl respect the guidelines of the current
> > version? It's useless to write such things.
> 
> This is a rather specious argument.  It's like saying.  "Why don't we
> just not ship or update man pages.  What percentage of users actually
> bother to read them?"

I think, far more than the cooker faq.
 
> Nobody can read them and follow them if you don't update and publish
> them.  

Agreed. But I don't feel it was better at the time I co-wrote it
with Geoff.
 
> The current FAQ says that it is published to the list monthly.  I don't
> remember the last time that was done.

I'm not sure, regarding this issue, but I think it was asked and
maybe admin forgot to do it, or didn't agree, or other ppl didn't
agree. But I don't think it's a key point.
 
> The current FAQ tells you to CC maintainers.  Yet some Mandrake
> employees don't like that.

That's another problem.
 
> Most of the FAQ has nothing to do with reporting bugs.  It doesn't even
> ask people to report the version of the package they are reporting.  And
> to get people to CC the right maintainer you're asking them to download
> and install rpmmon.  Putting up a small webscript to get this
> information (as I've already done) would make it easier for people.

I don't agree. There are some people who don't have a permanent
net connection.
 
> The harder you make it for people to do it the "right" way the far less
> likely people are to do it the right way.

Agreed.
 
> You are very unlikely to get 100% compliance with anything you put up.
> But every person that you do get to do it "right" will ease your
> workload and make for a more relaxed environment on this list.

Yep, the problem being when the percentage is very close to 0. I
think that the few persons who are willing to respect the rules
already "know" them because after all they are just plain logical
rules.
 
> Doesn't that make it worth the few minutes to fix the FAQ.  Heck Leon 
> Brooks actually wrote one that I'm sure you can borrow some of it from.
> 
> To improve on the FAQ I'd do the following:
> 
> a) Get rid of the information on how to submit packages.  Put a small
> mention of it and point people to the RPM howto.  Then make sure the
> rpm howto has the correct information on submitting them in it.  Most
> users don't submit RPMs so the information is useless to them.
> 
> b) Expand the explanation of how to make a good bug report.  Explain how
> to find out the version of the package that someone is running.  Explain
> not to reply to existing threads to start new ones.  Explain how and
> where to search for duplicate bugs.  
> 
> c) Actually post it on the list and link to it from everywhere.  Hell
> put it in the installer to give newbies something to read why they
> install.  

I'll study your suggestions if/when I have time (of course, other
mandrake employees are welcome to fix it but I'm unsure they want
to do it).

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:53:25PM +0200, Robert Fox wrote:
> I always leave Gkrellm running on my KDE desktop - and recently (updated
> to 9.0 Final) everything was fine.
> 
> Now when I log out of KDE and re-login as same user - Gkrellm starts up
> twice (two instances)
> 
> I recall this happening way back on KDE 2.2.2 but haven't seen it until
> now.

I use gkrellm and I can't replicate this...  Sounds like you got 2
copies running at some time and then haven't saved the session since
then.  Make sure when you log out that only one copy of gkrellm is
running and that you check the save session checkbox.

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] Bug confirmations: digital noise / drakconf locale

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:59:41PM +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
> install alsamixergui and swich off every item until your noise
> disappear

Thierry, This is totally useless.  The only way to get rid of the noise
is to turn Master or PCM off which defeats the purpose of having a sound
card.

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] FINAL bug: libintl and other packages cause errors in installer

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Aleksander Adamowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]

> The installer uses the /mnt/tmp dir, which is the /tmp dir of the
> working system.
> 
> On the working system, /tmp was not an ordinary dir, but a
> symlink to /home/temp/tmp  - because some long time ago I had run
> out of space on the / filesystem where /tmp was located. I've
> symlinked a tmp dir prepared on the /home partition, where I had
> plenty of space. The system worked fine.
> However, in an environment where the original /home filesystem is
> now /mnt/home, the symlink points at void space. There's no
> /home/temp/tmp when Mdk 9.0 installer is running, there's
> /mnt/home/temp/tmp.

Why? Because you use an absolute symlink! **Never** use absolute
symlinks, it's bad. Use relative symlinks.

Francois -> a check in the upgrade should be put at the beginning
to test if /mnt/tmp is available, and issue an error if not.
Aleksander would probably have guessed the origin of the problem
and fix it himself.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] 9.0 KDMRC bogus path #2

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

After some further, research, I found a better solution (since this
tends to make msec barf):

Edit the /usr/share/msec/libmsec.py file and find the line that defines
KDMRC. Change its value to /tmp/kdmrc or some other throw-away value.

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 14:17, Wes Kurdziolek wrote:
> Ah, I have this problem when I set KDM to display no users; it keeps
> resetting it to display all users -- quite annoying. I didn't know that
> was one of the items it switches back. Here's what I do to keep it from
> getting messed with:
> 
> 1) Make the changes you want to the kdmrc file.
> 2) chattr +i /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
> 
> #2 will effectively make the file read-only to even the root user until
> one removes the immutable flag from the file. Note: this will only work
> on ext2/3 AFIAK.
> 
> On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 13:53, Bob Walker wrote:
> > Wes,
> > 
> > That's what I did. However since this file is generated automatically WITH the 
> > bogus paths, I'll assume that someone has fixed the root cause, i.e. the 
> > app/script that is generating 'kdmrc'. 
> > 
> > Thanks for your response.
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday 01 October 2002 10:24 am, Wes Kurdziolek wrote:
> > > Edit the file: /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 13:08, Bob Walker wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have a fix for the bogus paths being set in KDMRC?
> > > >
> > > > SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> > > > UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > 
> 





Re: [Cooker] 9.0 KDMRC bogus path #2

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

Ah, I have this problem when I set KDM to display no users; it keeps
resetting it to display all users -- quite annoying. I didn't know that
was one of the items it switches back. Here's what I do to keep it from
getting messed with:

1) Make the changes you want to the kdmrc file.
2) chattr +i /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc

#2 will effectively make the file read-only to even the root user until
one removes the immutable flag from the file. Note: this will only work
on ext2/3 AFIAK.

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 13:53, Bob Walker wrote:
> Wes,
> 
> That's what I did. However since this file is generated automatically WITH the 
> bogus paths, I'll assume that someone has fixed the root cause, i.e. the 
> app/script that is generating 'kdmrc'. 
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Tuesday 01 October 2002 10:24 am, Wes Kurdziolek wrote:
> > Edit the file: /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
> >
> > On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 13:08, Bob Walker wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a fix for the bogus paths being set in KDMRC?
> > >
> > > SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> > > UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> > >
> > > Bob
> 





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 and I845G and DMA

2002-10-01 Thread Eric Fernandez

Wes Kurdziolek wrote:

>I remember seeing a message on lkml that this is fixed in 2.4.20-pre7.
>
>On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 11:12, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote:
>  
>
>>No, I don't have a solution to the DMA problem yet. I remember trying
>>hdparm, but not even hdparm could enable DMA on the hard drive (try it --
>>it will refuse. weird.)
>>
>>I haven't spent much time on this though...I was thinking of recompiling
>>the kernel and using a generic driver rather than the intel driver which
>>it is probably using.
>>
>>Ibukun
>>
>>On Tue 01 Oct 2002, Philipp H?felfinger @ Tiscalinet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi...
>>>
>>>Am Die, 2002-10-01 um 08.53 schrieb Ibukun Olumuyiwa:
>>>  
>>>
I also had IDE problems...especially with the system seizing
intermittently during hard disk writes, and an indication that the
system was unable to turn on DMA.


>>>How did you solve this DMA problems? Do you have a patch that works...
>>>I tried the latest prepatch for kernel 2.4.20 but the problem wasn't
>>>solved.
>>>
>>>cu
>>>
>>>Philipp
>>>
Yes I had that problem too, signaled it several times during the 
debugging of 9.0, but it could not be fixed apparently. The fact that 
hdparm cannot enable DMA is related to that bug. There are patches 
published by the main maintener of the IDE drivers for the kernel, Andre 
Hedrick. I can't find again his personal site, but if you find it (I 
posted his address on that list previously, it should not be difficult) 
you'll find a lot of patches.

This bug has been widely discussed on the kernel mailing list :
http://lists.insecure.org/linux-kernel/2002/Jun/0091.html
http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0208.1/0103.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-hardware@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu/msg02774.html
http://hypermail.idiosynkrasia.net/linux-kernel/archived/2002/week31/0028.html
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-34/0347.html

By the way, the IDE stuff is completely rewritten in the new kernel 2.5. 
Expect enhancements and problem solving (I hope...)

Eric






Re: [Cooker] edit-urpm-sources.pl bad behaviour

2002-10-01 Thread Gerard Patel

At 07:01 PM 10/1/02 +0200, you wrote:

>> urpmi database locked error is no handled and if it
>> occure, the application don't work with no error
>> message.
>
>your english is too broken, i don't understand what's your
>problem :-(.

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=rpm%20base&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-
8&as_ugroup=fr.comp.os.linux.configuration&as_umsgid=an4vpp%24kas%241%40wana
doo.fr&lr=&as_scoring=d&hl=en

If the link does not work, it's this usenet article :
an4vpp$kas$[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think it's the same problem. But I don't know how
it happens and if it happens with 9.0. The fact that
the locking is not detected is probably the same
problem.

Gerard





[Cooker] 9.0 - KMail stops checking mail

2002-10-01 Thread Tim Stoop

Hi peeps,

Symptom: After about 30 minutes (haven't timed it, really), KMail doesn't 
automagically check mail anymore. Also, pressing the "Check mail" button or 
choosing it from the menu, doesn't seem to give any respons. KMail doesn't 
start checking.

Even after I quit the program en restart it, it doesn't check mail directly. 
But... when I open a Konsole and start KMail from there, it works again.

Maybe it should be reported to KDE, but I wanted to check with you guys and 
gals first. Is this a bug, a feature or a 'known behaviour'?

-- 
Regards,
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`there's a time for work and a time for play' never find the time for play?





Re: [Cooker] everybuddy segfaults

2002-10-01 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 10:54 am, Ben Reser wrote:
>
> Note that I said lots.  Not everyone was having problems with it.  I was
> using 0.4.2 on a daily basis until I moved to 0.4.3 with no problems.
> It doesn't really matter now.  It's history.  0.4.2 shipped.  Now the
> best we can do is convince them to ship 0.4.3 in updates or for me to
> post 0.4.3 in the Mandrake club packages.  Which I'll be more than happy
> to do if people are interested.  I've added 0.4.3 to the list of
> applications to vote on on the site so if you want me to put it up there
> go vote for it.

Thanks but unfortunately for people like me I'm not a member. I have been on 
cooker since just before 6.0 came out and I own multiple copies of every 
version since 6.0. Not the cheap ones either. More recently I've thought 
about doing this with mandrake club instead as they seem to get all the 
benefits and I seem to spend much more than them on my power packs.
 I also own 5.3 but it's a cheepbytes version.

Really though thanks it's much needed.

However in my case since gaim was not working either. I just compiled it from 
scratch and viola it works. I usually make rpm's of just about everything I 
do but tex beat me to it for the gaim rpm so I've been using his. I actually 
prefer it to everybody now.
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 KDMRC bogus path #2

2002-10-01 Thread Bob Walker

Wes,

That's what I did. However since this file is generated automatically WITH the 
bogus paths, I'll assume that someone has fixed the root cause, i.e. the 
app/script that is generating 'kdmrc'. 

Thanks for your response.

Bob


On Tuesday 01 October 2002 10:24 am, Wes Kurdziolek wrote:
> Edit the file: /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
>
> On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 13:08, Bob Walker wrote:
> > Does anyone have a fix for the bogus paths being set in KDMRC?
> >
> > SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> > UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> >
> > Bob





Re: [Cooker] everybuddy segfaults

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 07:21:42AM -0700, Brook Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 30 September 2002 10:24 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> > It's not segfaulting for everyone.  I actually wasn't having problems
> > with 0.4.2.  I just keep upgrading because well it keeps getting more
> > stable.  But I don't think anyone really reported lots of problems with
> > 0.4.3 till well like right in the last few days before the release.
> 
> This is not true ben I reported it many times. At least two or three from 
> about rc2 time frame.

Note that I said lots.  Not everyone was having problems with it.  I was
using 0.4.2 on a daily basis until I moved to 0.4.3 with no problems.
It doesn't really matter now.  It's history.  0.4.2 shipped.  Now the
best we can do is convince them to ship 0.4.3 in updates or for me to
post 0.4.3 in the Mandrake club packages.  Which I'll be more than happy
to do if people are interested.  I've added 0.4.3 to the list of
applications to vote on on the site so if you want me to put it up there
go vote for it.

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




[Cooker] Strange KDE behavior

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Fox

I always leave Gkrellm running on my KDE desktop - and recently (updated
to 9.0 Final) everything was fine.

Now when I log out of KDE and re-login as same user - Gkrellm starts up
twice (two instances)

I recall this happening way back on KDE 2.2.2 but haven't seen it until
now.

Anybody?

Thx,
R.Fox







Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - Voodoo 3 - "No devices detected"

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ben Reser wrote:
> > yRemember ou're the one who has basically bee asked to stop posting to the list
> > by a Mandrake employee, not me.
> 
> Since retracted, plainly, as the fault at issue which they did
> not want to hear about was finally tested for and accepted by
> Mandrake.   I am 100% vindicated.

Hum, not exactly. Re-read my message. I didn't comment on your
fact at all. I commented on the rest of your message, which I
found offensive. On the fact, I later discovered it was true and
then I both posted to David Walluck and you that it was true &
fixed by Warly.


-- 
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:56:05PM +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> What percentage of ppl respect the guidelines of the current
> version? It's useless to write such things.

This is a rather specious argument.  It's like saying.  "Why don't we
just not ship or update man pages.  What percentage of users actually
bother to read them?"

Nobody can read them and follow them if you don't update and publish
them.  

The current FAQ says that it is published to the list monthly.  I don't
remember the last time that was done.

The current FAQ tells you to CC maintainers.  Yet some Mandrake
employees don't like that.

Most of the FAQ has nothing to do with reporting bugs.  It doesn't even
ask people to report the version of the package they are reporting.  And
to get people to CC the right maintainer you're asking them to download
and install rpmmon.  Putting up a small webscript to get this
information (as I've already done) would make it easier for people.

The harder you make it for people to do it the "right" way the far less
likely people are to do it the right way.

You are very unlikely to get 100% compliance with anything you put up.
But every person that you do get to do it "right" will ease your
workload and make for a more relaxed environment on this list.

Doesn't that make it worth the few minutes to fix the FAQ.  Heck Leon 
Brooks actually wrote one that I'm sure you can borrow some of it from.

To improve on the FAQ I'd do the following:

a) Get rid of the information on how to submit packages.  Put a small
mention of it and point people to the RPM howto.  Then make sure the
rpm howto has the correct information on submitting them in it.  Most
users don't submit RPMs so the information is useless to them.

b) Expand the explanation of how to make a good bug report.  Explain how
to find out the version of the package that someone is running.  Explain
not to reply to existing threads to start new ones.  Explain how and
where to search for duplicate bugs.  

c) Actually post it on the list and link to it from everywhere.  Hell
put it in the installer to give newbies something to read why they
install.  

-- 
Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://ben.reser.org

Never take no as an answer from someone who isn't authorized to say yes.




Re: [Cooker] 9.0 KDMRC bogus path #2

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

Edit the file: /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 13:08, Bob Walker wrote:
> Does anyone have a fix for the bogus paths being set in KDMRC?
> 
> SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
> 
> Bob





Re: [Cooker] FINAL bug: libintl and other packages cause errors ininstaller

2002-10-01 Thread Aleksander Adamowski

François Pons wrote:

>I see nothing wrong from here except of a problem deleting directory
>/mnt/tmp/headers which should be here (maybe with bad flags ?) and cannot be
>removed (fs error ?).
>  
>
I've figured the cause out, yippeee :)))

The installer uses the /mnt/tmp dir, which is the /tmp dir of the 
working system.

On the working system, /tmp was not an ordinary dir, but a symlink to 
/home/temp/tmp  - because some long time ago I had run out of space on 
the / filesystem where /tmp was located. I've symlinked a tmp dir 
prepared on the /home partition, where I had plenty of space. The system 
worked fine.
However, in an environment where the original /home filesystem is now 
/mnt/home, the symlink points at void space. There's no /home/temp/tmp 
when Mdk 9.0 installer is running, there's /mnt/home/temp/tmp.

When in the busybox I execute "chroot /mnt", I can use /tmp dir since 
the symlink starts pointing at th proper location (or to say better, the 
target location is in the proper place).

If installer wants to use the files and directories from the working 
system's fs's, it either has to:
* chroot to /mnt, or
* check all involved, pre-existing files and directories if they are 
symlinks, then resolve them by appending "/mnt/" at their beginning and 
accessing target files/dirs.









Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - Voodoo 3 - "No devices detected"

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Jonathan Drews wrote:
> 
> >  for some reason your video card is not being found.
> 
> Adding a BusID line fixed the problem.   However, if a BusID line
> is necessary with Voodoo3 (Generic) the installer should have
> generated it into XFConfig-4, surely?
 
Can you copy the BusIS line please?

What's strange is that I have a 

Card:Voodoo3 (generic): 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.|Voodoo 3 [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:121a 
device:0005 subv:121a subd:003a)

in this very machine and I have no busid line in my Xfree config
file...

The config file is here, maybe you can diff -u with yours?

http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/files/XF86Config-4


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] I hate to admit it . . .

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Robert martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If these issues are so important to you, why don't you find out what RH
> does
> different and submit a patch?
> 
>
> 
> 1 not knowing enough C /perl/ whatever to do the patch
> 2 having difficulty finding "whats different" if it involves 19
> different programs with 200 scripts none of which is actually documented
> correctly
> 3 wondering if AnyDrake will even CARE enough to commit the patch (or
> look at the patch at all)
> 4 too much is different to change at this point in the game

you need not to consider the "patch" that way.

if you can isolate what configuration file(s) change on the
mandrake solves your problem, then we can probably take care of
patching the right mandrake tool.

you don't need any programming capabilities for that, just
"experienced user" who can change some configuration files by
hand.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




RE: [Cooker] Where is kermit?

2002-10-01 Thread Palmer, Hilary

C-Kermit was in 8.2.  Used it almost every day.

And the notice thing...  That is appended to every message that is sent out
of the hospital.

-Original Message-
From: David Walluck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 11:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Where is kermit?


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I like the vague one line message with the 10+ line confidentiality
notice. I'm not a lawyer, but I think that whatever is the law applies,
regardless of whether you put a notice like that or not... it really
seems like a waste of bandwidth. Besides, this is the mailing list, so
who is the intended recipient exactly? If a mail like this ever ends up
in my mailbox, I will take it for granted that I was the intended recipient.

Anyway, there is a 'C-Kermit' (not 'kermit', so I'm not sure if this is
what you are referring to) which, as far as I know, has never been
included in Mandrake.

You might be able to get away with minicom, which is in Cooker,
depending on what you need it for. So, my suggestion is try minicom, and
if thta fails you can pull C-Kermit from another RPM (I remember
'ckermit' being in 7.1 Contribs.

Palmer, Hilary wrote:
| Where did kermit go??  :-(
|
|
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recipient, please advise the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of
the original message.   Thank you.






Re: [Cooker] edit-urpm-sources.pl bad behaviour

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"Florent BERANGER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> urpmi database locked error is no handled and if it
> occure, the application don't work with no error
> message.

your english is too broken, i don't understand what's your
problem :-(.

what is a "urpmi database locked error"?


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Bug confirmations: digital noise / drakconf locale

2002-10-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud

"Frederic Crozat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, Ben Reser confirmed there was no problem with 2.4.19-3mdk
> kernel, so this is a ALSA bug..
>
> Titi ? :))

install alsamixergui and swich off every item until your noise
disappear





Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > * improve the cooker cooker FAQ pages, about cooker etiquette and 
> > everything when reporting a bug 
> > (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/cookerfaq.php3)
> 
> Agreed 100%.

What percentage of ppl respect the guidelines of the current
version? It's useless to write such things.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Install of 9.0 - raid ?

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Bruno Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This was my first guess as well, but the system still wouldn't
> come up after I built my own initrd with raid1 and raid5 support.
> I added aliases for md-personality-3 and md-personality-4 to
> /etc/modules.conf, but no luck. Every array would still fail to
> startup with "kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k
> md-personality-x, errno=2\n md: personality x is not loaded!". I
> would guess that Mandrake's initrd has RAID support built in
> (they would have to go out of their way to exclude it, which
> seems unlikely). Although this looks like the problem, it seems
> actually to be more fundamental.

To boot a Mandrake system, you need a "working" /etc/raidtab file
(e.g. containing right infos about your / partition at least).

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] 9.0 install - no hdlist2.cz- Do these disks work ornot?

2002-10-01 Thread Ron Stodden

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

> There are two problems:
> 
> - there are packages we don't put on ISO's because for whatever
>   reason we don't want to have more than 2/3/whatever ISO's, so
>   there are some packages which are only available in the "tree"
>   version
> 
> - due to overloaded mirrors, the contrib were not put in the
>   "tree" at the time the rest was, which produced the famous "no
>   hdlist2.cz" problem

Re 1, English speakers can happily make their own 3 CD set (with space 
to spare) using Mandrake's 9.0 MakeCD facility (which now works - it 
didn't on release) from the tree as downloaded by the latest (i.e. 
today's ) troels.rsync6.2.pl - freely available from my web site.

This is because, in addition to arranging where possible to use rsync's 
fast 'patch-in-place' algorithm to markedly reduce download time, all 
the other-language components of 9.0 are not downloaded, resulting in a 
9.0 space of only 1,513 MB, and a cooker space of only 1,508 MB.   Note 
that 9.0 CD2 does require a 700MB CD-R or CD-RW blank.

The 9.0-tree complete English-only CD set:
-rw-r--r--1 root root 680755200 Oct  1 01:20 1-Cooker.iso
-rw-r--r--1 root root 699269120 Oct  1 01:24 2-Cooker.iso
-rw-r--r--1 root root 159612928 Oct  1 01:24 3-Cooker.iso

This will give English speakers the benefit of a _complete_ 9.0 on 3 CDs.

It is not difficult, but _IS_ tedious, to modify the rsync-exclude file 
to benefit another language.   If anyone does it, in the GPL spirit, 
others might be interested.

-- 
Ron. [Melbourne, Australia]
IMPORTANT!  troels... for ML 9.0 now available. See my web site:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/









Re: [Cooker] Cervisia removed from 9.0?

2002-10-01 Thread Quel Qun


--- Original Message ---
From: Tim Stoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] Cervisia removed from 9.0?

>Hi people,
>
>I just did an update of my system (from 8.2 to 9.0, report is
being made), but 
>I noticed that Cervisia isn't in the install list? Why was it
removed from 
>the package-list?
>
/usr/bin/cervisia is in kdesdk-3.0.3-5mdk.i586.rpm

Enjoy,
=-=
kk1





Re: [Cooker] FINAL bug: libintl and other packages cause errors ininstaller

2002-10-01 Thread Aleksander Adamowski

François Pons wrote:

>You used reiserfs on this machine, with which version of kernel ?
>
For the system being upgraded, a standard 2.4.18-8.1mdk kernel:

$uname -a
Linux tuxia 2.4.18-8.1mdk #1 Mon Jun 24 13:21:53 MDT 2002 i686 unknown

$dmesg | head -n 1
Linux version 2.4.18-8.1mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc 
version 2.96 2731 (Mandrake Linux 8.2 2.96-0.76mdk)) #1 Mon Jun 24 
13:21:53 MDT 2002

For the installer, you know better than me ;-)

Anyway, I'm going to do a fresh install on that machine, I'm starting in 
the next 5 minutes.






Re: [Cooker] Install of 9.0 - raid ?

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Bruno Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> down. Or at least, this is my interpretation of why every time I
> upgrade my root-RAID Mandrake-based server, I have to remember to

http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/errata.php3#raid

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [ben@reser.org: [Cooker] XPM icons and the howto...]

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Here is a more extensive list of what i would like to be included in MDK 
> HOWTO:

added to my todo

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

Support for the ServerWorks IDE chipsets has always been a bit awful.
There's a long-standing bug where enabling DMA on ATAPI devices tends to
screw with the system pretty severely.

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 10:40, tarvid wrote:
> This is ugly.
> 
> http://www.compaq.com/support/files/server/us/download/14884.html
> 
> They have binary patches for Redhat 7.3 (and others) but not Mandrake.
> 
> That probably means there is no kernel level support for that controller.
> 
> Sorry about that.
> 
> Jim Tarvid
> 
> On Tuesday 01 October 2002 10:08 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> > The IDE controller (all it controls is the CD-ROM) is a "ServerWorks CSB5
> > IDE Controller" created by Reliance Computer.  The drives are Compaq 18.2GB
> > 1500RPM Wide Ultra 3 SCSI.  They are controlled by the "Compaq Smart Array
> > 5i Controller".
> >
> > I have included the file /proc/pci if you need more information.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hilary Palmer
> > Production Systems Specialist
> > Luther Midelfort - Information Systems
> > Eau Claire, WI 54703
> > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: tarvid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:28 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360
> >
> >
> > Can you tell us the chipset for the ide controller and the manufacturer and
> > model on the drive?
> >
> > I was thinking of buying some of those but it may be wiser to build them
> > instead.
> >
> > Jim Tarvid
> >
> > On Tuesday 01 October 2002 09:09 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> > > FYI
> > >
> > > On a Compaq Proliant DL360 G2 I needed to start the install with "linux
> > > ide=nodma".  I also needed to set that up in LILO.  I do not know if that
> > > is something that could be fixed in the future.  But otherwise it
> >
> > installed
> >
> > > great!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Hil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Confidentiality  Notice
> > >
> > > This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and entity to
> > > whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged,
> > > confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law.  Any
> > > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email
> >
> > message,
> >
> > > including any attachment, is prohibited.  If you are not the intended
> > > recipient, please advise the sender by reply email and destroy all copies
> > > of the original message.   Thank you.
> >
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> >
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 and I845G and DMA

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

I remember seeing a message on lkml that this is fixed in 2.4.20-pre7.

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 11:12, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote:
> No, I don't have a solution to the DMA problem yet. I remember trying
> hdparm, but not even hdparm could enable DMA on the hard drive (try it --
> it will refuse. weird.)
> 
> I haven't spent much time on this though...I was thinking of recompiling
> the kernel and using a generic driver rather than the intel driver which
> it is probably using.
> 
> Ibukun
> 
> On Tue 01 Oct 2002, Philipp H?felfinger @ Tiscalinet wrote:
> > Hi...
> > 
> > Am Die, 2002-10-01 um 08.53 schrieb Ibukun Olumuyiwa:
> > > I also had IDE problems...especially with the system seizing
> > > intermittently during hard disk writes, and an indication that the
> > > system was unable to turn on DMA.
> > 
> > How did you solve this DMA problems? Do you have a patch that works...
> > I tried the latest prepatch for kernel 2.4.20 but the problem wasn't
> > solved.
> > 
> > cu
> > 
> > Philipp
> >  
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
>|  /*\
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Re: [Cooker] Where is kermit?

2002-10-01 Thread Jerry A!

On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 05:13:32PM +0100, Alastair Scott wrote:
: On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:55:21 -0500  "Palmer, Hilary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: 
: > Where did kermit go??  :-(
: 
: Probably removed because the licence 
: 
: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/f/COPYING.TXT
: 
: was considered too one-sided. This discussion is most revealing:
: 
: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/kermit.html#license
: 
: Home-brewed university licences also put paid to pine and pico (University
: of Washington) from the main distribution ...

Fair enough.  But is there a repository of unwanted but still loved
mdk-rpm's out there?  Well, I guess other than PLF.

--Jerry

Open-Source software isn't a matter of life or death...
...It's much more important than that!




Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - Voodoo 3 - "No devices detected"

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

The NV04 chipset is officially the RiVA TNT chipset. The name lspci
shows is whatever the kernel developer who entered the PCI ID decided to
give it.

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 07:12, Guy.Bormann wrote:
> > The Diamond Viper V550 is a TNT card, not a RIVA128 card, and there's no
> > such thing as a TNT128 chipset despite the fact that the TNT is a
> > 128-bit chipset.
> Mmm, how do you explain the following lspci -v output then?
> 
> 
> > I don't believe I've ever come across an AGP card or a
> > PCI card with a chipset that supports AGP (the TNT chipset for instance)
> > that requires an IRQ.
> So...
> 
> Guy
> 
> 

> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Riva TnT 128 [NV04] (rev 04) 
>(prog-if 00 [VGA])
>   Subsystem: Diamond Multimedia Systems Viper V550
>   Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 64
>   Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
>   Memory at af00 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M]
>   Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=64K]
>   Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1
>   Capabilities: [44] AGP version 1.0





Re: [Cooker] 9.0 - Voodoo 3 - "No devices detected"

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

No, the NV03 is the RIVA128 chipset. The NV04 is the chipset for the
TNT, the TNT2 (a sped-up version of the TNT w/ support for more RAM),
and the Vanta (cheap-ass version of TNT). NVidia started marketing the
TNT as the RIVA TNT 128 b/c it was originally touted as a "TNT-enhanced
RIVA 128" chipset. The 128 was important b/c ATI, Imagine, and some of
the other big names at the time were making a big stink about having
128-bit graphics cards.

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 08:00, Charles A Edwards wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:12:35 +0200 (CEST)
> "Guy.Bormann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Mmm, how do you explain the following lspci -v output then?
> > 
> 
> Your attachment says "RIVA TNT 128" not RIVA128 or TNT128
> It is a NVIDIA chipset and uses the NVIDIA drivers.
> 
> At one time such were marketed as RIVA 128 but when Nvidia discontinued
> support for this chip as a separate entity and then began supporting
> with the NVIDIA drivers its designation was changed to RIVA TNT 128.
> 
> 
> Charles
> 
> ---
> Unix will self-destruct in five seconds... 4... 3... 2... 1...
> --
> Charles A Edwards
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> 





Re: [Cooker] Where is kermit?

2002-10-01 Thread David Walluck

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I like the vague one line message with the 10+ line confidentiality
notice. I'm not a lawyer, but I think that whatever is the law applies,
regardless of whether you put a notice like that or not... it really
seems like a waste of bandwidth. Besides, this is the mailing list, so
who is the intended recipient exactly? If a mail like this ever ends up
in my mailbox, I will take it for granted that I was the intended recipient.

Anyway, there is a 'C-Kermit' (not 'kermit', so I'm not sure if this is
what you are referring to) which, as far as I know, has never been
included in Mandrake.

You might be able to get away with minicom, which is in Cooker,
depending on what you need it for. So, my suggestion is try minicom, and
if thta fails you can pull C-Kermit from another RPM (I remember
'ckermit' being in 7.1 Contribs.

Palmer, Hilary wrote:
| Where did kermit go??  :-(
|
|
|
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| including any attachment, is prohibited.  If you are not the intended
| recipient, please advise the sender by reply email and destroy all
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Re: [Cooker] Where is kermit?

2002-10-01 Thread J. Greenlees

Palmer, Hilary wrote:

>Where did kermit go??  :-(
>
he was here a few weeks ago visiting miss piggy for new muppet christmas 
movie.
( filmed in my area ) ~wink~






Re: [Cooker] RE: MPG123 issues in 8.2 - SOLVED!

2002-10-01 Thread Wes Kurdziolek

Han, you're taking the long road to pariah-ville. Just suck up your
pride and apologize.

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 01:36, Han Boetes wrote:
> Damon Lynch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 17:09, Han Boetes wrote:
> > > Damon Lynch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > > But I think if Han apologised the problem would  be  solved  right
> > > > away Han?
> > >
> > > No way jose. I don't feel sorry for one bit. Have you got  any  idea
> > > what can happen if you change what she just changed.
> >
> > Han, all of us make mistakes. Rare  is  the  person  who  likes  their
> > mistakes pointed out by being publicly insulted. That is why I suggest
> > you apologise. You are correct that technical damage can  be  created;
> > likewise, we are correct that people-to-people damage has already been
> > created. You can fix it easily enough :-)
> 
> I didn't insult her. I told her what I  thought  about  her  advice.  If
> anybody insulted anybody, she insulted me. Not that I want her apologies
> or something. I would like her to research what she just did. After that
> I think she will agree with me.
> 
> 
> 
> Groetjes, Han.
> -- 
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Re: [Cooker] Where is kermit?

2002-10-01 Thread Alastair Scott

On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:55:21 -0500  "Palmer, Hilary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Where did kermit go??  :-(

Probably removed because the licence 

ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/f/COPYING.TXT

was considered too one-sided. This discussion is most revealing:

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/kermit.html#license

Home-brewed university licences also put paid to pine and pico (University
of Washington) from the main distribution ...

Alastair




Re: [Cooker] Bug confirmations: digital noise / drakconf locale

2002-10-01 Thread Daouda LO

Reinout van Schouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello all,
> 
> I'd like to confirm two bugs that have been reported here before but may
> have been too vague.
> 
> 1. When Mandrake 9 is installed in Dutch, drakconf will fail to start.
> This is a major drawback for Dutch customers and a disappointment for me
> who put so much effort in translations. :( I found that this problem had
> already been reported in bugzilla for the 'si' locale on the 9th of
> August, see https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51 .

It was slovenian locale and i answer that it was not reproductible on
my machine using locale-sl with localedrake (same with nl locale). 
It seems that the bug shows when install is done with these locales
(will test as soon as i find a new fan for my test box).







[Cooker] Where is kermit?

2002-10-01 Thread Palmer, Hilary

Where did kermit go??  :-(



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Re: [Cooker] FINAL bug: libintl and other packages cause errors in installer

2002-10-01 Thread François Pons

Aleksander Adamowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * warning: packdrake: mkdir: error creating directory f: File exists
> * unable to open header file /mnt/tmp/headers/zlib1-1.1.4-3mdk.i586
> * unable to open header file /mnt/tmp/headers/libglib1.2-1.2.10-6mdk.i586
>...

You used reiserfs on this machine, with which version of kernel ?

I see nothing wrong from here except of a problem deleting directory
/mnt/tmp/headers which should be here (maybe with bad flags ?) and cannot be
removed (fs error ?).

François.




Re: [Cooker] Bug confirmations: digital noise / drakconf locale

2002-10-01 Thread Frederic Crozat

On Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:59:24 +0200, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:

> Hi Frederic,
> 
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> 
>> Could you try adding
>> Option "PciRetry" "true"
>> to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (in "Device" section)
>> and check both drivers ?
> 
> I have done as you asked, restarted X each time after I unloaded one and
> loaded another module, but unfortunately it makes no difference to the
> noise output of esd.

Well, Ben Reser confirmed there was no problem with 2.4.19-3mdk kernel, so
this is a ALSA bug..

Titi ? :))

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft





[Cooker] 9.0 KDMRC bogus path

2002-10-01 Thread Bob Walker

Does anyone have a fix for the bogus paths being set in KDMRC?

SystemPath=/usr//bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin
UserPath=/usr//bin:/bin:/usr/bin::/usr/local/bin

Bob




Re: [Cooker] supermount and usb-uhci

2002-10-01 Thread Eric Fernandez

I have got also problems downloading pictures from my usb camera (canon 
powershot a40).
The camera is correctly set up and I can access the image directory with 
konqueror. But sometimes it hangs during the copy and I have to do it again.
Eric

Borzenkov Andrey wrote:

>I am really sorry but from your description it appears not related
>directly to supermount. I do not know anything about flashcards, sorry
>:(
>
>  
>
>>Could this supermount error be related to the problems I am having
>>with supermount and the usb-uhci/sr_mod loaded Flash memory-card
>>reader?
>>
>>When I try to use the Flash card with supermount
>>
>>   none /mnt/flash supermount dev=/dev/sda1,fs=vfat,user,noauto 0 0
>>
>>it reads a few files and then hangs.
>>






Re: [Cooker] 9.0 install - observations

2002-10-01 Thread Wim Horst

Op dinsdag 1 oktober 2002 12:42, schreef Buchan Milne:
> Wim Horst wrote:
> > 6) lisa lanbrowsing in konqueror still (2 years) not working.
>
> Please clarify. Are you getting a list of machines? If not, please run
> KDE control center as root:
>

This works fine

> $ su -
> # kcontrol
>
> And go Network->LAN Browsing, run Guided Lisa Setup.
>
> Unfortunately there is a bug in the lisa init script (caused by
> gprint'ifying the script in the RPM build process, the original script
> works fine) that puts an extra "n " in the list of IPs in the default
> config it generates on first start. Then restart lisa:
>
> # service lisa restart
>
> After a long
>
> > time it sometimes does get filenames but first caracter of filename is
> > lost.
>
> This is samba bug in 2.2.6pre2, only present in smbclient against win9x.
> There will be an update for this Real Soon Now (TM).

I will waite for this update

> I am considering making a set of samba-2.2.5 RPMs, shout if you really
> want this.
>
> But, you may rather want to use komba2, kio_smb isn't as robust as it
> should be (but lisa works just fine).
>

komba2 works fine, thanks






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 and I845G and DMA

2002-10-01 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa

No, I don't have a solution to the DMA problem yet. I remember trying
hdparm, but not even hdparm could enable DMA on the hard drive (try it --
it will refuse. weird.)

I haven't spent much time on this though...I was thinking of recompiling
the kernel and using a generic driver rather than the intel driver which
it is probably using.

Ibukun

On Tue 01 Oct 2002, Philipp H?felfinger @ Tiscalinet wrote:
> Hi...
> 
> Am Die, 2002-10-01 um 08.53 schrieb Ibukun Olumuyiwa:
> > I also had IDE problems...especially with the system seizing
> > intermittently during hard disk writes, and an indication that the
> > system was unable to turn on DMA.
> 
> How did you solve this DMA problems? Do you have a patch that works...
> I tried the latest prepatch for kernel 2.4.20 but the problem wasn't
> solved.
> 
> cu
> 
> Philipp
>  
> 
> 

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake 9.0 and I845G and DMA

2002-10-01 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa

One more thing...

I remember I was supposed to send in a diff of the spec & the patch to
the maintainer, and then I forgot...I will try to get around to doing
that...too many things happening to me these days :)

Ibukun

On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 15:08, Ray Carlino wrote:
> I am having same problem with Dell 4500 machines.
> Is there a fix yet???
> I have heard maybe 2.4.20 kernel fixes this problem.
> 
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I've got a problem with my Intel I845G chipset (Asus motherboard).
> I reported this bug in the middle of september. The patch
> 
> When the system boots I recieve the errors found in "lines from
> /var/dmesg".
> 
> In that case it is impossible to activate the dma mode for my ide
> harddrive. The problem is that I need this performance for burning
> cdroms or watching dvds.
> 
> I also tried the patch that I found in another message in this
> mailinglist, but the same result.
> 
> It would be great if someone may help me..
> 
> Philipp Haefelfinger
> 
>  uname -r 
> 2.4.19-16mdk
>  end ---
> 
>  lines from /var/dmesg 
> Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
> ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> idebus=xx
> PCI: Device 00:1f.1 not available because of resource collisions
> PCI_IDE: (ide_setup_pci_device:) Could not enable device.
>  end --
> 
>  lspcidrake -
> agpgart : Intel Corporation|82845 845 Chipset Host Bridge (MCH)
> [BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:8086 device:2560 subv:1043 subd:8093)
> unknown : Intel Corp.|82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset AGP Bridge
> [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:2561)
> usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Controller [SERIAL_USB]
> (vendor:8086 device:24c2 subv:1043 subd:8089)
> usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Controller [SERIAL_USB]
> (vendor:8086 device:24c4 subv:1043 subd:8089)
> usb-uhci: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Controller [SERIAL_USB]
> (vendor:8086 device:24c7 subv:1043 subd:8089)
> ehci-hcd: Intel Corporation|82801DB USB Enhanced Controller
> [SERIAL_USB] (vendor:8086 device:24cd subv:1043 subd:8089)
> unknown : Intel Corporation|82820 815e (Camino 2) Chipset PCI
> [BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:244e)
> unknown : Intel Corporation|82801DB 845G/GL Chipset ISA Bridge
> (ICH4) [BRIDGE_ISA] (vendor:8086 device:24c0)
> unknown : Intel Corporation|82801DB 845G/GL Chipset IDE
> Controller [STORAGE_IDE] (vendor:8086 device:24cb subv:1043 subd:8089)
> Card:NVIDIA GeForce (fbdev): NVidia|NV25 [GeForce4 Ti4600] [DISPLAY_VGA]
> (vendor:10de device:0250 subv:1043 subd:8013)
> eepro100: Intel Corporation|EtherExpress PRO/100
> [NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:8086 device:103a subv:1043 subd:8071)
> snd-emu10k1 : Creative Labs|SB Live! (audio) [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
> (vendor:1102 device:0002 subv:1102 subd:8064)
> emu10k1-gp  : Creative Labs|SB Live! (joystick) [INPUT_OTHER]
> (vendor:1102 device:7002 subv:1102 subd:0020)
> bttv: Brooktree Corporation|Bt848 TV with DMA push
> [MULTIMEDIA_VIDEO] (vendor:109e device:0350)
> unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:)
> unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:)
> unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:)
> unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:)
>  end 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360

2002-10-01 Thread Palmer, Hilary

Thats O.K.  The system is working, so I am happy.

-Original Message-
From: tarvid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360


This is ugly.

http://www.compaq.com/support/files/server/us/download/14884.html

They have binary patches for Redhat 7.3 (and others) but not Mandrake.

That probably means there is no kernel level support for that controller.

Sorry about that.

Jim Tarvid

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 10:08 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> The IDE controller (all it controls is the CD-ROM) is a "ServerWorks CSB5
> IDE Controller" created by Reliance Computer.  The drives are Compaq
18.2GB
> 1500RPM Wide Ultra 3 SCSI.  They are controlled by the "Compaq Smart Array
> 5i Controller".
>
> I have included the file /proc/pci if you need more information.
>
> Thanks,
> Hilary Palmer
> Production Systems Specialist
> Luther Midelfort - Information Systems
> Eau Claire, WI 54703
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tarvid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360
>
>
> Can you tell us the chipset for the ide controller and the manufacturer
and
> model on the drive?
>
> I was thinking of buying some of those but it may be wiser to build them
> instead.
>
> Jim Tarvid
>
> On Tuesday 01 October 2002 09:09 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> > FYI
> >
> > On a Compaq Proliant DL360 G2 I needed to start the install with "linux
> > ide=nodma".  I also needed to set that up in LILO.  I do not know if
that
> > is something that could be fixed in the future.  But otherwise it
>
> installed
>
> > great!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hil
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Cooker] Bug confirmations: digital noise / drakconf locale

2002-10-01 Thread Reinout van Schouwen

Hi Frederic,

On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Frederic Crozat wrote:

> Could you try adding
> Option "PciRetry" "true"
> to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (in "Device" section)
> and check both drivers ?

I have done as you asked, restarted X each time after I unloaded one and
loaded another module, but unfortunately it makes no difference to the
noise output of esd.

regards,

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-01 Thread Reinout van Schouwen

On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Thierry Vignaud wrote:

> > notification of translators in due time. The way the Gnome
> > Translation Project works, can be used as a model.
>
> well, the latest 2 weeks were extremely freezed and during the last
> week, gc and me posts which strings were changed on cooker-i18n

Well, then there's something wrong with the cooker-i18n distribution
because I haven't received those mails. Now that you mention it I do see
more traffic in the cooker-18n archives than I've actually read. If only
I'd known. :)

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Re: [Cooker] 9.0: audacity-1.0.0-3mdk needs libstdc++.so.4

2002-10-01 Thread Austin Acton

Use hackaudacity.
Austin

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 03:17, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> 
> > rpmdrake says:
> > Conflicts detected:
> > libstdc++.so.4 is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
> > libstdc++.so.4(GLIBCPP_3.1) is needed by audacity-1.0.0-3mdk
> > Install aborted
> 
> AFAICS, audacity is not in 9.0. All packages with broken/inexistent 
> dependencies are automagically nuked when creating the CDs.
> 





Re: [Cooker] 9.0 install - no hdlist2.cz- Do these disks work or not?

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> One would have to ask "How many different 9.0s are there?".
> 
> A release is a release, it is singular.   A subsequent release
> cannot bear the same number, since it is a different thing.
> 
> So what is the release name of what is now on ftp.sunet.se?
> 9.0.1? 9.01?   9.0a?  9.1?   Do we now have two dolphins?

There are two problems:

- there are packages we don't put on ISO's because for whatever
  reason we don't want to have more than 2/3/whatever ISO's, so
  there are some packages which are only available in the "tree"
  version

- due to overloaded mirrors, the contrib were not put in the
  "tree" at the time the rest was, which produced the famous "no
  hdlist2.cz" problem

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 and next

2002-10-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Reinout van Schouwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> From a translator perspective, I'd like to comment that the
> continuing string changes in the Mandrake tools sometimes are
> driving me up the wall. Up until this weekend there have been string
> changes without the translators even being notified in any way (I
> wonder how many developers know about the cooker-i18n list?). This
> is making the "Mandrake experience" a less pleasant to non-English
> users because they get confronted with mixed english/own language
> interfaces.
>
> To make a long story short: next time I would like to see a string
> freeze that can only be broken in special cases and with
> notification of translators in due time. The way the Gnome
> Translation Project works, can be used as a model.

well, the latest 2 weeks were extremely freezed and during the last
week, gc and me posts which strings were changed on cooker-i18n





Re: [Cooker] mdk9 not compatible with code developed in mdk8.2

2002-10-01 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Cláudio Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Now i installed MDK 9.0 and ofcourse gcc3.x don't work so i add

gcc 3.x works.

what may not work is your code if it's not c++ standard
compliant. but i's easily fixable, and gb may help fix anyway.

> the gcc2.x packages to the system and try to compile
> 
> and all go well until the link part where i get this msg:

you can't link together C++ code generated by 2.x and 3.x because
they are not binary compatible.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Quanta highlighting?

2002-10-01 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 07:30 am, Tim Stoop wrote:
> Hi people,
>
> I don't know if this is supposed to happen, but the syntax highlighting of
> Quanta Plus is *really* bad. I make my PHP-docs with Quanta, usually, but
> this new version (I upgraded today from 8.2) has really ugly highlighting.
> And it doesn't even recognise escaped quotes! (The old version did that
> without thinking twice...)
>
> What happened here? Any idea on how to fix this?
goto pclinuxonline.com and get the final release of 3.0 it is much improved 
over the one that shiped with 9.0. even includes cvs built in as a plugin.
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Re: [Cooker] Quanta highlighting?

2002-10-01 Thread Marcel Pol

On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:30:22 +0200
Tim Stoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't know if this is supposed to happen, but the syntax highlighting of 
> Quanta Plus is *really* bad. I make my PHP-docs with Quanta, usually, but 
> this new version (I upgraded today from 8.2) has really ugly highlighting. 
> And it doesn't even recognise escaped quotes! (The old version did that 
> without thinking twice...)
> 
> What happened here? Any idea on how to fix this?

The rpm in 8.2 had a patch to change the original php-syntax highlighting. 
The quanta people changed their syntax highlighting to match that of Kate,
kde's texteditor. The source was changed, so the 8.2 patch didn't apply and
was dropped. 
If you can generate a patch to have it match your preferred behaviour, I guess
that's ok. Else I think it's better that you talk to the quanta people
directly at http://quanta.sourceforge.net



--
Marcel Pol

Linux 2.4.19-16.ringworld-mdk, up 3 days, 5:54
Registered User #163523





Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360

2002-10-01 Thread tarvid

This is ugly.

http://www.compaq.com/support/files/server/us/download/14884.html

They have binary patches for Redhat 7.3 (and others) but not Mandrake.

That probably means there is no kernel level support for that controller.

Sorry about that.

Jim Tarvid

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 10:08 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> The IDE controller (all it controls is the CD-ROM) is a "ServerWorks CSB5
> IDE Controller" created by Reliance Computer.  The drives are Compaq 18.2GB
> 1500RPM Wide Ultra 3 SCSI.  They are controlled by the "Compaq Smart Array
> 5i Controller".
>
> I have included the file /proc/pci if you need more information.
>
> Thanks,
> Hilary Palmer
> Production Systems Specialist
> Luther Midelfort - Information Systems
> Eau Claire, WI 54703
> E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tarvid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360
>
>
> Can you tell us the chipset for the ide controller and the manufacturer and
> model on the drive?
>
> I was thinking of buying some of those but it may be wiser to build them
> instead.
>
> Jim Tarvid
>
> On Tuesday 01 October 2002 09:09 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> > FYI
> >
> > On a Compaq Proliant DL360 G2 I needed to start the install with "linux
> > ide=nodma".  I also needed to set that up in LILO.  I do not know if that
> > is something that could be fixed in the future.  But otherwise it
>
> installed
>
> > great!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hil
> >
> >
> >
> > Confidentiality  Notice
> >
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> > whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged,
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>
> message,
>
> > including any attachment, is prohibited.  If you are not the intended
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[Cooker] Quanta highlighting?

2002-10-01 Thread Tim Stoop

Hi people,

I don't know if this is supposed to happen, but the syntax highlighting of 
Quanta Plus is *really* bad. I make my PHP-docs with Quanta, usually, but 
this new version (I upgraded today from 8.2) has really ugly highlighting. 
And it doesn't even recognise escaped quotes! (The old version did that 
without thinking twice...)

What happened here? Any idea on how to fix this?

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] everybuddy segfaults

2002-10-01 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Monday 30 September 2002 10:24 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
> It's not segfaulting for everyone.  I actually wasn't having problems
> with 0.4.2.  I just keep upgrading because well it keeps getting more
> stable.  But I don't think anyone really reported lots of problems with
> 0.4.3 till well like right in the last few days before the release.

This is not true ben I reported it many times. At least two or three from 
about rc2 time frame.


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RE: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360

2002-10-01 Thread Palmer, Hilary

The IDE controller (all it controls is the CD-ROM) is a "ServerWorks CSB5
IDE Controller" created by Reliance Computer.  The drives are Compaq 18.2GB
1500RPM Wide Ultra 3 SCSI.  They are controlled by the "Compaq Smart Array
5i Controller".

I have included the file /proc/pci if you need more information.

Thanks,
Hilary Palmer
Production Systems Specialist
Luther Midelfort - Information Systems
Eau Claire, WI 54703
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-Original Message-
From: tarvid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360


Can you tell us the chipset for the ide controller and the manufacturer and 
model on the drive?

I was thinking of buying some of those but it may be wiser to build them 
instead.

Jim Tarvid

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 09:09 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> FYI
>
> On a Compaq Proliant DL360 G2 I needed to start the install with "linux
> ide=nodma".  I also needed to set that up in LILO.  I do not know if that
> is something that could be fixed in the future.  But otherwise it
installed
> great!
>
> Thanks,
> Hil
>
>
>
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[Cooker] Xine and the dsp device

2002-10-01 Thread John Allen

Xine seems to require the /dev/dsp0 device to be present. The default devfsd 
does not create it, just a dsp symlinked to sound/dsp.

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Re: [Cooker] the drakfont problem/ntfs problem

2002-10-01 Thread Thierry SAURA

> "mo" == Maks Orlovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

mo> On Monday 30 September 2002 11:25 pm, Victor wrote:
>> Hello, I'm having the same problem. I have windows 2000 on an
>> ntfs partition and the fonts are stored in /WINNT/Fonts. When I
>> run drakfont it crashes after it finishes one progress bar and
>> starts on the second one. I'm thinking of just installing an
>> older rpm and see if that works. If that fails I'll take a look
>> at that Font HOW-TO.
>> 
>> I'd love to know when/if this problem is solved.

mo> I can confirm this, and what's more, after DrakFont gets run,
mo> the NTFS partition doesn't seem to be accessable any longer --
mo> anyone else see that?

same problem with Windows XP, the only solution is to reboot !

Thierry Saura.




Re: [Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360

2002-10-01 Thread tarvid

Can you tell us the chipset for the ide controller and the manufacturer and 
model on the drive?

I was thinking of buying some of those but it may be wiser to build them 
instead.

Jim Tarvid

On Tuesday 01 October 2002 09:09 am, Palmer, Hilary wrote:
> FYI
>
> On a Compaq Proliant DL360 G2 I needed to start the install with "linux
> ide=nodma".  I also needed to set that up in LILO.  I do not know if that
> is something that could be fixed in the future.  But otherwise it installed
> great!
>
> Thanks,
> Hil
>
>
>
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[Cooker] Compaq Proliant DL360

2002-10-01 Thread Palmer, Hilary

FYI

On a Compaq Proliant DL360 G2 I needed to start the install with "linux
ide=nodma".  I also needed to set that up in LILO.  I do not know if that is
something that could be fixed in the future.  But otherwise it installed
great!

Thanks,
Hil



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Re: [Cooker] 9.0 contrib: SearchAndRescue

2002-10-01 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Tuesday 01 Oct 2002 11:33, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Le Mardi 1 Octobre 2002 03:35, Peter Ruskin a écrit :
> >  /usr/games/SearchAndRescue
> > Unable to find a suitable X Visual.
> >
> > Please verify that you have an X Visual suitable for OpenGL
> > rendering by running "xdpyinfo". Also note that defining multiple
> > Visuals may confuse the selection of a proper Visual (in which case
> > try defining only one Visual.
> >
> > hmmm, quake runs fine here and this worked in 8.2.
> >
> > $ rpm -qa|grep SearchAndRescue
> > SearchAndRescue-0.7.20-2mdk
> >
> > $ xdpyinfo
>
> [..]
>
> > Anybody any clues, please?
>
> Try glxinfo, it's more specific to 3D.

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info,
GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync,
GLX_SGIX_swap_group, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce2 MX/AGP/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 1.3.1 NVIDIA 29.60
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_texture_compression,
GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_S3_s3tc, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra,
GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract,
GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, 
GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_paletted_texture, 
GL_EXT_point_parameters,
GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette,
GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc,
GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add,
GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3,
GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
GL_EXT_texture_lod, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object,
GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_weighting,
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_KTX_buffer_region, 
GL_NV_blend_square,
GL_NV_evaluators, GL_NV_fence, GL_NV_fog_distance,
GL_NV_light_max_exponent, GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil,
GL_NV_register_combiners, GL_NV_texgen_emboss, 
GL_NV_texgen_reflection,
GL_NV_texture_env_combine4, GL_NV_texture_rectangle,
GL_NV_vertex_array_range, GL_NV_vertex_array_range2, 
GL_NV_vertex_program,
GL_NV_vertex_program1_1, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, 
GL_SGIS_multitexture,
GL_SGIS_texture_lod
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
--
0x21 16 tc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x22 16 dc  0 16  0 r  y  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x23 16 tc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None
0x24 16 dc  0 16  0 r  .  .  5  6  5  0  0 16  0 16 16 16 16  0 0 None

>
> What about other accelerated apps ? Did you try gears (from Mesa
> demos) for instance ?

$ gears
10214 frames in  5.000 seconds = 2042.800 FPS
10478 frames in  5.000 seconds = 2095.600 FPS
8264 frames in  5.005 seconds = 1651.149 FPS
726 frames in  5.002 seconds = 145.142 FPS

The 145.142 FPS was full-screen at 1280x1024.  Like I said, Q2demo works 
fine.

Regards,
Peter
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Re: [Cooker] devfsd.conf

2002-10-01 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:58:28 +0200 (CEST)
"Guy.Bormann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, according to Inspector Morse, not using the z-spelling shows
> you're not educated (at Oxford :-). I guess he's no authority on
> spelling though:-))

Of course he is, he does the Times crossword everyday.
Now if we are talking about Sgt. Lewis, that's another matter. (-:


Charles

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