Re: [Cooker] 9.1 final

2003-03-19 Thread Michael Scherer
Entête en cours de reécriture, merci de patienter en lisant la réponse au mail 
de Till Kamppeter, à Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 01:44
 Michael Scherer wrote:
  Can you please tell to me that the security hole discovered this morning
  is closed ?

 Check your Cooker mirror whether it already caught up kernel
 2.4.21-0.13mdk. This is the fixed one. The Cooker on our compilation
 cluster is exactly 9.1 now, including this kernel. So update as soon as
 you r mirror gets the new kernel.

ok, i guess I need to get the habits of having hole disclosed after the fix, 
but, this is great.

Good work for the 9.1

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Mickaël Scherer




Re[2]: [Cooker] Post 9.1 Wishlist (9.2 ??)

2003-03-19 Thread maxxik
NS 16. Create the Mandrake Personal Configuration Center.

how about

17. include reiserfs quota support in kernel ?

wbr, maxx




Re: [Cooker] Post 9.1 Wishlist (9.2 ??)

2003-03-19 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Narfi Stefansson wrote:

 I believe that Steffen is right that mjpegtools was compiled without
 MMX in the 9.0 rpms.
 When I compile for i586 and athlon side by side and I enable MMX for
 both, I only get a maximum of 10-15% speed difference.
 The difference in with/without MMX is of course huge :-)

No package will be built with MMX optimizations by default as there are 
Pentium out there without those extensions. However, if your application 
dynamically links against some optimized DSOs that would be fine to put 
those libraries in */lib/mmx/* or */lib/sse{,2}/*. But you will be stuck 
if they decided to dlopen() their plugins/libraries.

Bye,
Gwenole.




Re: Re[2]: [Cooker] Post 9.1 Wishlist (9.2 ??)

2003-03-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 00:14, maxxik wrote:
 NS 16. Create the Mandrake Personal Configuration Center.
 
 how about
 
 17. include reiserfs quota support in kernel ?
 
 wbr, maxx

If MDK is going to aim at any one area for 9.2 it should be laptops. 
Right now my wireless is working... problem is ... I'm not exactly sure
how it's working... See, what it does, and what the smattering of docs
around the web say. don't match (yes most of them are written for RH
6.x so it's expected).  No complaint about this... just pointing one
thing out.  Laptops and mobile computing are a future that is waiting
for Linux.  ACPI improvements.  Wireless becoming less confusing.  The
ability to have multiple profiles (Laptops move networks don't, please
god if there is any one thing needed it's this!) all of this is an area
that is a weak point right now.  SuSE is trying to move into this area. 
8.1 is supposed to be a 'wireless' release... (Note it doesn't work any
better here than MDK does) Nonetheless it is a future.  Hopefully this
future will include MDK.  




Re: [Cooker] kernel-source and kernel-source-includes

2003-03-19 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How soon?

next release i guess.

 What to do in the meantime? Upload thinkpad drivers to contrib? To Club?
 What about tpctl (requires thinkpad drivers as it requires the thinkpad
 device)?

user-mode package will follow kernel-drivers.




Re: [Cooker] 9.1 final

2003-03-19 Thread Clive Dove
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 21:55, HoytDuff wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 March 2003 09:43 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
  And what do I do if I don't have an old kernel installed?  Punt?

 How about using mc to extract the kernel from the correct kernel rpm
 and install it manually?

You will have to force the install. 

And what about other elements of the system bearing date March 18, 2003 
that might also not have changed numbers.

My guess is that the only safe way would be to re-install the frpm the 
original disks and then set up your mirror again and then update.

Or wait for the final set of iso images to arrive then do a new install.





Re: [Cooker] 9.1 final

2003-03-19 Thread Eric Fernandez
Frederic Lepied wrote:

9.1 is gone to production. In the name of MandrakeSoft engineering
team, I would like to thank all the cookers for the great help you
provided to build this release. Thank you very much !
 

Congratulations again !
This is really great. Best wishes for the future, I hope you will go out 
of your financial problems.

Eric





Re: [Cooker] Post 9.1 - GATOS

2003-03-19 Thread Mike Diack
I'd certainly welcome GATOS support for my Radeon AIW 7200.

Mike
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 My question, how much interest is there in the gatos project and would
RPMs help more people.
 
 im at about the promissing my first born stage of getting my radeon AIW
7500 working
 with mandrake
 by working i mean
 X working
 DVD working
 TV tuner working

 My current install (mostly stock 9.0 due to having DUN connect only)
 only has X working







[Cooker] [Bug 3439] [mozilla] Problem with JRE

2003-03-19 Thread a-j-e.baugh
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3439





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Thanks, this works. I had assumed that since Mandrake came with gcc3 
these days that was the compiler used - my bad.

Adrian.

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Blackdown's JRE 1.4.1-01 does not work with Mandrake's mozilla-1.3 i586 rpms.
Specifically, the plugin does not appear in about:plugins and java applets are
ignored. The symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/plugins is correct and the problem
does not occur when I use Red Hat's mozilla-1.3 rpms.



[Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Chad
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Ok seeing Its now feature request/suggestion time (by which I mean the sudden 
surge in threads about features rather than bugs) I'll join in with a few 
Ideas that might improve things.

1)I'd like to see some new features to urpmi most of which others have already 
mentioned:
- - resume on partial downloads as the default behavior
- - rsync support (if it isn't already present)
- - support for multiply mirror choosing the fastest/local ones first
- - src.rpm compilation and installation. I'd like to be able to set up urpmi to 
use a source RPM they way it currently uses mandrake rpm repositories. I'd 
like to be able to install a simply BASE system a kernel, the basic 
libraries, gcc and other needed tools, Mandrake tools and urpmi. Then simply 
type some thing along the lines of urpms (urpmi for SRPMS)
urpms flags=--mach=k6-2 -o3  kde-full
urpms would then sort out the dependencies required for a full install of kde 
the kde packages build them in the correct order with the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS 
set to the flags option and install them setting up kdm or mdkdm.
I'd also like to be able to do the same with gcc so  urpms flags=xxx  gcc 

 2)Next I'd propose the development of an app called some thing like bugdrake. 
It would be a Wizard/Gui client side front end for Bugzilla. It would ask for 
specific info that users often forget to add to their bug reports, if it was 
a hardware problem it would ask if it could scan the machine and collect info 
that would be of use in hunting down the bug. As well as checking to find out 
what version of Mandrake the user was using eg mdk9.0, mdk9.1RC1, 
mdk9.0/cooker hybrid etc and if the users had selected a specific package for 
the bug report check it and it's dependence's to find out what version they 
were and check that the user hadn't replaced them with non standard versions. 
It would then gather all the info and submit it to bugzilla.Possibly  it 
could check for any simliar bug reports using some sort of alogarithim and 
show any thing that showed up as being similar to the user and asking them if 
it was the same bug. In which case it would mark it as a duplicate and add it 
as a comment to the end of the previous bug report to supply additional info. 
This should/would improve the quality and detail of most bug reports which I 
think most people here would agree would be very usefull!

3)The final suggestion I have is for the creation of an App called something 
like drakecooker or cookerdrake. This would be a program for helping with 
cooker testing. A gui or commandline interface which could control updateing 
the cooker installation. Allowing users to choose when and what parts of 
cooker they wanted to update and set up cron jobs to do it.
- -It would report/list what packages had been updated after runing the update 
cooker command and list the changes made to them (scan the changelog in the 
spec file).
- - List requests for moreinfo on bugs and specific requests for testing of new 
or updated packages.
It would be closely tied to bugdrake allowing easy bug reporting etc.
- -report bugs in areas of interest. So you could tell it you wanted to mainly 
test Multimedia pacakges it would then list new, needinfo and unresolved bugs 
from the mulitmedia packages section that you could have a look at, test etc.
- - and have a package/cvs upload front end for uploading changes or patches.

I think the creation of such apps would help the cooker community in it's 
efforts to improve Mandrake Linux and crush the ever present stream of bugs. 
I'd personally give the bugdrake app ago my self if my programing skills were 
up with it but they're certainly not (abit of java and tiny bit of perl and 
pascal)! What do you think?

Chad

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Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Pascal Terjan
Chad wrote:
  2)Next I'd propose the development of an app called some thing like 
bugdrake.
 It would be a Wizard/Gui client side front end for Bugzilla.
Something like drakbug ?




Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 10:39, Chad a crit :
 - resume on partial downloads as the default behavior

Isn't allready done ?

 - rsync support (if it isn't already present)

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon, select cooker version, search url begining by 
rsync://, oh ! I debug rsync support myself.

 - support for multiply mirror choosing the fastest/local ones first

You can add multiple mirror, and choose it by a regexp with --media option.

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Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Chad
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2)Next I'd propose the development of an app called some thing like
 bugdrake.
   It would be a Wizard/Gui client side front end for Bugzilla.
 Something like drakbug ?

That I hadn't noticed before :-o 
It's lacking some of the features I suggested though (like scaning the 
hardware) and it could do with alot more visability!
It also doesn't seem to bother checking the dependences and their versions 
either.

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Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Chad
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 Le Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 10:39, Chad a crit :
  - resume on partial downloads as the default behavior
 Isn't allready done ?

Does it first I've heard of it. If I run urpmi with the noclean option and 
interupt it part way through downloading a pacakge it doesn't seem to resume 
the file it was downloading were it left off it starts on that file again 
doesn't it?

  - rsync support (if it isn't already present)
 http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon, select cooker version, search url begining
 by rsync://, oh ! I debug rsync support myself.

Not sure but to be really usefull doesn't rsync support require a local copy 
of the package to update (compare to the netone and d/l the difs)? Otherwise 
I see no difference between it and ftp. 

  - support for multiply mirror choosing the fastest/local ones first
 You can add multiple mirror, and choose it by a regexp with --media option.

Yes I know that but by default it only uses one of them if that mirror is 
lagging or down it doesn't move on to the next one does it?

Chad
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[Cooker] [Bug 3356] [drakxtools-newt] Can not upgrade due to file collision with msec

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3356

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already fixed 6 weeks ago 
update msec 



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drakxtools-newt-9.1-25mdk 
conflicts with file from package msec-0.38-1mdk



[Cooker] [Bug 3411] [vim-common] vim-common needs to depend on coreutils

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3411

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it does not need a requires since coreutils is already required by basesystem. 
to force package installation ordering, we need a prereq there instead. 
 
i'll fix it once packages uploading is allowed again 



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Because at least one of vim-common's scriplets uses /bin/rm, vim-common needs to
have a Requires: of coreutils.  When installing vim-common and coreutils at the
same time, they are not ordered so that rm is available when vim-common's post
scriptlet is run.



[Cooker] [Bug 3247] [drakconf] Can't Change Screen Resolution

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3247

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I tried several times to change the screen resolution using the Mandrake Control
Center.  I adjust it, but nothing changes.  I have to do an install update to
change the resolution to my likeing. 1024 x 768.  I believe you should have a
test section during the install as I have tended to miss choosing the correct
resolution during several different installs.  Even though I know I need to be
careful, I tend to skip over it and there is no way to back up.



[Cooker] [Bug 2672] [drakconf] Problem with hardware tools section in MCC

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2672

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Open MCC
Go to hardware section
click on Keyboarddrake, choose a new language for the keyboard, clik ok !!

Problem
===

The new configuration of the keyboard have no effect, same things if you use
Mousedrake, or XFdrake .nothings !!! No change !!!



[Cooker] [Bug 3425] [kernel] Grip crashes machine

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3425

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It is reproducible. I open up grip, rip CD's, encode .ogg's, and everything
works properly. As soon as I try to close it, it will hang for a second
(although I can still move my mouse), then everything completely freezes, and
the lights on my keyboard begin to blink. I am using the latest package (with RC
2) on Gnome 2.2, P4 motherboard. It happens every single time. I have tried
uninstalling and reinstalling, but it continues. I also tried logging out while
the program is open, and the same thing occurs.



[Cooker] Re: Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread David Walser
Chad wrote:
- rsync support (if it isn't already present)
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon, select cooker version, search url begining
by rsync://, oh ! I debug rsync support myself.


Not sure but to be really usefull doesn't rsync support require a local copy 
of the package to update (compare to the netone and d/l the difs)? Otherwise 
I see no difference between it and ftp.
Not only do you have to have a local copy, the local copy needs to have 
the same name (for the benefits of rsync to actually work).  So the 
local copies of the RPMs (either kept around all the time, or created on 
the fly with --repackage) would need to be renamed to the new RPM 
version before the rsync is run.

I have a script that does this.  One of these days I'll add support for 
command line options.

http://luigiwalser.homeip.net:8080/~david/cooksync.pl





Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Chad
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Other things that it could be used for would be for the download of large Main 
packages. For example the updated Kernel-source or kde packages. Urpmi could 
ask for the CD to be inserted grab the origional versions of the package's 
off that and then use rsync to update them to the new/current version of the 
kernel-sources/kde after all most of the kernel doesn't change between 
updates It would save abit of download time for dialup users. Theres over 
100MB's of updates for mdk 9 if the orgional packages where copied off cd and 
then updated to the new versions using rsync you'd probably save at least 
HALF of that bandwidth and a fair bit of time!
Or on systems with LOTS of storage space urpmi could creat a copy of the 
cooker repostitory on the disk and just update the differences when ever new 
versions are released and install instead of having to download the complete 
package each time it was changed.

Chad

 Le Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 11:10, Chad a crit :
- rsync support (if it isn't already present)
  
   http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon, select cooker version, search url
   begining by rsync://, oh ! I debug rsync support myself.
 
  Not sure but to be really usefull doesn't rsync support require a local
  copy of the package to update (compare to the netone and d/l the difs)?
  Otherwise I see no difference between it and ftp.

 It retrieve hdlist faster because it download only diff.
 Otherwise, what do you mean by rsync support ? else than it actually do ?

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Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Buchan Milne
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Chad wrote:

 3)The final suggestion I have is for the creation of an App called
something
 like drakecooker or cookerdrake. This would be a program for helping with
 cooker testing. A gui or commandline interface which could control
updateing
 the cooker installation. Allowing users to choose when and what parts of
 cooker they wanted to update and set up cron jobs to do it.


I don't think this is *really* necessary:
[bgmilne:/home/bgmilne/rpm/BUILD]# cat /etc/cron.daily/update
#!/bin/sh

LOG=/var/log/updates

rm -f /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/*.rpm
unset ftp_proxy
unset http_proxy
echo Running updates on `date`  $LOG
urpmi.update --wget  ftp1 ftp2  /var/log/updates 21
#urpmi --wget --auto-select --auto --no-verify-rpm  /var/log/updates
urpmi --wget --auto-select --auto   /var/log/updates 21

ls /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/*.rpm /dev/null
[ $? -eq 0 ]  rpm -Uvh /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/*.rpm  /var/log/updates
21


 -It would report/list what packages had been updated after runing the
update
 cooker command and list the changes made to them (scan the changelog
in the
 spec file).

Subscibe to the changelog list for this, you get the changelog *before*
upgrading, so you can avoid packages (via skip.list) if necessary.

 - List requests for moreinfo on bugs and specific requests for testing
of new
 or updated packages.

Read the changelogs. (see above).

 It would be closely tied to bugdrake allowing easy bug reporting etc.
 -report bugs in areas of interest.

drakbug is for people who don't subscribe to cooker. cookers are
expected to be able to give better diagnostics than drakbug (ie
intelligent bug reports as opposed to automated ones).

 So you could tell it you wanted to mainly
 test Multimedia pacakges it would then list new, needinfo and
unresolved bugs
 from the mulitmedia packages section that you could have a look at,
test etc.
 - and have a package/cvs upload front end for uploading changes or
patches.


If you are subscribe to cooker, you can easily filter/search bug reports
in your mail client.

I think a 'build-from-source' tool would be more important to cookers.

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] kernel-source and kernel-source-includes

2003-03-19 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Leon Brooks :
 On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:26 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
  Ainsi parlait Austin :
  Telling someone on dialup: just install glibc-devel, XFree86-devel, and
  kernel-source... is a big deal.
 
  Not any more than installing the rest of the system.

 It is if they have to fetch it down a modem.
And how did they fetched the rest of the system ?
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Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Jan Ciger
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 Jan,

This just occured to me  When I had beta3 installed and just
 before RC1 came out qt3 and lib1t3 where upgraded.  Let me see if my
 older disks are anywhere around... (slim chance) but just about that
 time my ability to launch kde3 died. And at that time I was using XFree
 3.3.6 (the performace is better in an ATI Mobility chip than earlier
 versions of the 4 series XFree) Now if I go into 3.3.6 I get the exact
 same reaction from kde in normal mode as I do in Xnest or vnc with 4.3.
 The error it dies on is that DCOP server is failing.  btw I can
 reproduce this error at any time by switching from one XFree version to
 the other.  I found libqt3 8mdk and current is 13 let me downgrade and
 try it

 James


This just confirms it - XFree 3.3.6 didn't have Render yet, that came only 
with the 4.x series, that's why you have the problem. 

Some other people here already confirmed, that the problem goes away, when you 
disable antialiasing in Qt and recompile it. 

I guess, that the bug is in Qt's handling of antialiasing, it does not fall 
back to non-antialiased mode when Render is not available and crashes the 
application. 

Jan
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Re: [Cooker] Post 9.1 Wishlist (9.2 ??)

2003-03-19 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Gwenole Beauchesne :
 On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Narfi Stefansson wrote:
  I believe that Steffen is right that mjpegtools was compiled without
  MMX in the 9.0 rpms.
  When I compile for i586 and athlon side by side and I enable MMX for
  both, I only get a maximum of 10-15% speed difference.
  The difference in with/without MMX is of course huge :-)

 No package will be built with MMX optimizations by default as there are
 Pentium out there without those extensions. However, if your application
 dynamically links against some optimized DSOs that would be fine to put
 those libraries in */lib/mmx/* or */lib/sse{,2}/*. But you will be stuck
 if they decided to dlopen() their plugins/libraries.
An other option would be to have different packages for optimized and non 
optimized libs/binaries, and use alternatives to use them transparently.

Would be great i think.
-- 
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always drop immediately after the purchase. 
-- Murphy's Computer Laws n°7




[Cooker] Re: Post 9.1 Wishlist (9.2 ??)

2003-03-19 Thread David Walser
Guillaume Rousse wrote:
Ainsi parlait Gwenole Beauchesne :

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Narfi Stefansson wrote:

I believe that Steffen is right that mjpegtools was compiled without
MMX in the 9.0 rpms.
When I compile for i586 and athlon side by side and I enable MMX for
both, I only get a maximum of 10-15% speed difference.
The difference in with/without MMX is of course huge :-)
No package will be built with MMX optimizations by default as there are
Pentium out there without those extensions. However, if your application
dynamically links against some optimized DSOs that would be fine to put
those libraries in */lib/mmx/* or */lib/sse{,2}/*. But you will be stuck
if they decided to dlopen() their plugins/libraries.
An other option would be to have different packages for optimized and non 
optimized libs/binaries, and use alternatives to use them transparently.

Would be great i think.
Could the application itself just have runtime detection of CPU 
features, so you can compile SSE/MMX support in the one package, but it 
won't try to use it on CPUs that don't support it?  I think mplayer does 
this, and didn't use to.





Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Chad
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  3)The final suggestion I have is for the creation of an App called
 something
  like drakecooker or cookerdrake. This would be a program for helping with
  cooker testing. A gui or commandline interface which could control
 updateing
  the cooker installation. Allowing users to choose when and what parts of
  cooker they wanted to update and set up cron jobs to do it.
 I don't think this is *really* necessary:

This was more aimed at those who've downloaded the RC's and want to help with 
the debuging part aren't really linux experts. 
The cookerdrake idea I think would still be usefull as It would provided one 
central location for collecting the info like requests for testing and 
changelog stuff It's certainly not needed for the developers but for the 
more casual cooker members it might be of some use. Especially for those who 
want to do testing but don't want to get 200 emails a day in there hotmail 
inbox from cooker!

 drakbug is for people who don't subscribe to cooker. cookers are
 expected to be able to give better diagnostics than drakbug (ie
 intelligent bug reports as opposed to automated ones).

Exactly your'd want drakbug to be used by those who weren't on the cooker 
list. Those who aren't on cooker list are generally the ones who produce the 
worst bug reports! If you added the features I mentioned to drakbug and stuck 
it on the desktop of the RC's in plain view it would probably cut down on the 
number of bad bug reports that turn up. And having it grab data on 
dependencies, Version and hardware would help in alot of bugs. Think back to 
the isa sound card problem that was in cooker last week it took half a dozen 
emails before it was found out that the card was an ISA version.

 I think a 'build-from-source' tool would be more important to cookers.

Yes the build from source would be the one I'd like the most by far!
 (urpms --flags=-march=k6-2 -o3 * )

Chad

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Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Chad :
 3)The final suggestion I have is for the creation of an App called
 something like drakecooker or cookerdrake. This would be a program for
 helping with cooker testing. A gui or commandline interface which could
 control updateing the cooker installation. Allowing users to choose when
 and what parts of cooker they wanted to update and set up cron jobs to do
 it.
 -It would report/list what packages had been updated after runing the
 update cooker command and list the changes made to them (scan the changelog
 in the spec file).
 - List requests for moreinfo on bugs and specific requests for testing of
 new or updated packages.
 It would be closely tied to bugdrake allowing easy bug reporting etc.
 -report bugs in areas of interest. So you could tell it you wanted to
 mainly test Multimedia pacakges it would then list new, needinfo and
 unresolved bugs from the mulitmedia packages section that you could have a
 look at, test etc. - and have a package/cvs upload front end for uploading
 changes or patches.
Cooker is supposed to be an experimental distribution, higly instable, not 
meant for everyday use. If you're using it, you're supposed to be some kind 
of unix guru able to recover your hard disk the day when booting won't work 
anymore.

More and more users forget about this, and would like to benefit from the 
bleeding edge applications available in cooker without suffering any risk. 
Moreover, they want gui because command-line is too difficult to use, and 
documentation to hard to read. That's a misunderstanding of cooker purpose 
IMHO.

Investing time and resource for improving cooker usability is a non-sense, not 
because we want to stay l337, but because those resource would be more useful 
for other purposes. Of course, we could discuss of what kind of improvement, 
but GUIs are definitevely too much work, and there is nothing in your list 
that could not be solved by some trivial script.
-- 
Disks are always full. It is futile to try to get more disk space. Data 
expands to fill any void. 
-- Murphy's Computer Laws n4




[Cooker] [Bug 3328] [harddrake] INSMOD error after running harddrake at boot

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3328

[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

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just a warning of the floppy detection. 
 
harddrake ask detect_devices to list all availlable floppy drives, which in turn needs 
floppy 
module to be loaded. 
 
hance the message 



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On screen message given after upgrading to latest harddrake does not happen on
original release of RC2, on screen message is:

Hint: Insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including IO
or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in SYSLOG or DMESG once you
have logged in



[Cooker] [Bug 3318] [kdebase] Under KDE, Mdk Control Center is losing the root password

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3318





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-19 10:36 ---
kdesu bug 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mdk/gi/perl-install $ rpm -qf $(which kdesu) 
kdebase-3.1-83mdk 
 



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Mandrake 9.1 - RC2 , logged as a non-root user, using KDE
Run Mandrake Control Center from the taskbar, check remember root password ,
work with it, close it.
Trying to run it again, it asks for root password again!
Expected that Mdk Control Center should run without asking again root password



[Cooker] [Bug 3304] [drakconf] Controlcenter-installing grub

2003-03-19 Thread tvignaud
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3304

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-19 10:38 ---
can you ensure this is not a duplicate of bug #2672 



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on ml-linux rc2

Controlcenter:
if i want to install or edit grub, there is no way to install grub completely on
/fd0?
the file /boot/menu/list can`t be searched in another partition.
If i want to edit the menu.lst in controllcenter, the tab-funktion of grub wont
work-why?
After installation gmessage open-but with no text?

regards

Thomas Vill



[Cooker] [Bug 3445] [drakxtools] New: unable to connect to lan

2003-03-19 Thread malcolm.cowsill
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3445

   Product: drakxtools
 Component: DrakConnect
   Summary: unable to connect to lan
   Version: 9.1-26mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: critical
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I've tried booting with linux noapic acpi=off but still drakconnect unable to 
connect to lan...wizard detects tulip (linksys) nic ok and says dhcp and eth0 
up but fails to connect. Intel 440LX motherboard. Dual boot box so I know rest 
of lan ok.  I would like to help...if you need more info please let me know and 
how to get it...I'll send it you. It worked fine with mdk9.0.



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Re: [Cooker] kernel-source and kernel-source-includes

2003-03-19 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:07, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
 Ainsi parlait Leon Brooks :
  On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:26 am, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
   Ainsi parlait Austin :
   Telling someone on dialup: just install glibc-devel, XFree86-devel,
   and kernel-source... is a big deal.
  
   Not any more than installing the rest of the system.
 
  It is if they have to fetch it down a modem.

 And how did they fetched the rest of the system ?


Maybe they bought it ? Y'know there are boxed sets in the stores. And 
sometimes there is an update of the kernel (thinking of 9.0). Then you may 
want to have 3d acceleration or your modem running with that kernel. But yes, 
who cares ... 

Anyway it was a question if it is possible or if it would improve sth. , if 
not, it's ok. 
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Re: [Cooker] Post 9.1 Wishlist (9.2 ??)

2003-03-19 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 09:16, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Narfi Stefansson wrote:
  I believe that Steffen is right that mjpegtools was compiled without
  MMX in the 9.0 rpms.
  When I compile for i586 and athlon side by side and I enable MMX for
  both, I only get a maximum of 10-15% speed difference.
  The difference in with/without MMX is of course huge :-)

 No package will be built with MMX optimizations by default as there are
 Pentium out there without those extensions. However, if your application
 dynamically links against some optimized DSOs that would be fine to put
 those libraries in */lib/mmx/* or */lib/sse{,2}/*. But you will be stuck
 if they decided to dlopen() their plugins/libraries.

I can understand that in some way, but mjpegtools without mmx is just not 
usable. Who the hell would use mpeg2enc on a whatever-pentium-w/o-mmx. What 
a processor would that be , a pentium 90 ? mpeg2enc is slow as hell even on 
Ghz machines , for what should it be used on such an old machine ? Anyway , 
the alternatives solution sounds reasonable to me (easy to make and 
usefull). 

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Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 06:07 am, Jan Ciger wrote:
  Jan,
 
 This just occured to me  When I had beta3 installed and just
  before RC1 came out qt3 and lib1t3 where upgraded.  Let me see if my
  older disks are anywhere around... (slim chance) but just about that
  time my ability to launch kde3 died. And at that time I was using XFree
  3.3.6 (the performace is better in an ATI Mobility chip than earlier
  versions of the 4 series XFree) Now if I go into 3.3.6 I get the exact
  same reaction from kde in normal mode as I do in Xnest or vnc with 4.3.
  The error it dies on is that DCOP server is failing.  btw I can
  reproduce this error at any time by switching from one XFree version to
  the other.  I found libqt3 8mdk and current is 13 let me downgrade and
  try it
 
  James

 This just confirms it - XFree 3.3.6 didn't have Render yet, that came only
 with the 4.x series, that's why you have the problem.

 Some other people here already confirmed, that the problem goes away, when
 you disable antialiasing in Qt and recompile it.

 I guess, that the bug is in Qt's handling of antialiasing, it does not fall
 back to non-antialiased mode when Render is not available and crashes the
 application.

 Jan

I'll ask again then.  Should this be reported upstream?  I didn't see anything 
about this in the KDE bugzilla.  I did not check trolltech.
-- 
Greg



Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Buchan Milne
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Chad wrote:


drakbug is for people who don't subscribe to cooker. cookers are
expected to be able to give better diagnostics than drakbug (ie
intelligent bug reports as opposed to automated ones).


 Exactly your'd want drakbug to be used by those who weren't on the cooker
 list. Those who aren't on cooker list are generally the ones who
produce the
 worst bug reports! If you added the features I mentioned to drakbug
and stuck
 it on the desktop of the RC's in plain view it would probably cut down
on the
 number of bad bug reports that turn up. And having it grab data on
 dependencies, Version and hardware would help in alot of bugs. Think
back to
 the isa sound card problem that was in cooker last week it took half a
dozen
 emails before it was found out that the card was an ISA version.


The biggest problem there was the user not doing what he was asked to
do, while flatly refusing to listen to what the developers told him
about his card.

He would most likely have complained that drakbug misrepresented his
hardware anyway.

And we only have the influx of bad bug reports from about RC1 onwards
anyway. If you're going to add 'cooker' to the name of a tool, it had
better have some value the other 85% of the time.

Buchan

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let document the fscking mcc [was: Re: [Cooker] [PATCHED]drakclick]

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am in total admiration by your perl skills. As the Capernaum
 Centurion would say if he had been a programmer, I am not worthy
 that thou shouldest come under my roof: but speak the regexp only,
 and my code shall be healed.

 However, I am a bit deceived by your elitist attitude. By the sound
 of your e-mails, you seem to assume that everyone should know how to
 use the DrakX code.

sorry if i give you such an attitude but as i receive and answer lots
of emails each day, i used to write short, sharp mails.
even my familly and my friends keep ask me to write longer, nicer
emails :-(

as for changelogs and cvs commits, i use to be even more concise.

what's more, i was under bugs pressure and my grand father died, so i
was still more unpleasant than usual, if possible.

sorry if you feel bad because of it[-1]

 However, I haven't been able to find any information,
 neither on the DrakX web page, or in the drakxtools package itself, or
 in perl-MDK, in the twiki, in the CVS, and of course I tried Google.

well, in fact, there's no such doc[0] :-(

for mdk9.2, i would like to write some inline doc which we would
extract in some docbook document like the kernel folks did.

for the moment, it's just an idea floating somewhere on my todo list.
 

 The only documentation I could find was:
 http://www.mandrakeforum.org/print.php?lang=ensid=662
 I based DrakClick on that exact same code. 

do not take it bad: your code was fine as for mdk9.0 (though you
should have use interactive instead of directly writing a gtk+ app,
but that's not so important).
not for mdk9.1.

this is not your fault since:
- there's no doc anywhere
- we have neither the ressources nor the time to write some docs,
- some developers think having perl scripts as binary is enough


as for embedding:



here's the story:
-

sadly (or happilly, depending on each thoughs), we[1] clean lots of
stuff in drakx internals, especially drakconf -- embedded apps
communication.

basically, in the old days, the app used to send SIG_USR2 to drakconf
to warn mcc it was ready to display. then mcc would hide the icon
animation and display the application.

on exiting, the app would send SIG_USR1 to tell mcc to display again
its icons.

there were some obvious flaws in that design:
- if app crashed before sending SIG_USR2, mcc would keep display the
  animation (unless you click on cancel or you manually did a killall
  -SIG_USR1 drakconf)
- if app unespectly crashed while displaying, the mcc would keep
  displaying a gray area instead of showing back its icons
  (unless one manually sent SIG_USR1)
- ...

while working on the mdk9.2, more bugs came from this approach,
mainly:
- wait messages were embedded which was horrible (from a gui
  viewpoint)
- hidden tools and lots of embedding bugs in scannerdrake,
  printerdrake, and other interactive written tools

so, i cleaned the way embedded apps and mcc communcate.

as the gtk::socket send gtk signals when a application create and
display a gtk::plug widget (plug-added signal), or destroy it
(plug-removed signal), i decided to remove the somewhat mythical black
magic SIG_USRx stuff and to let gtk+ automatically told us when app is
ready to display.
what's more, as the gtk::plug widget is destroyed when the app exit
(either by design decision and proper exit or by unexpected crash), we
have automatic mcc icons restoring on app crash, proper exit, ...

in the process, i badly introduced the infamous bug #2672 with an
additionnal cleanup :-(



here's the embedding rule of thumb:
---

mcc append --embedded XID to tools command line arguments when
they're embedded.

apps have to create a toplevem gtk::window when non embedded and a
gtk::plug widget when embeded.

the gtk::plug has to be created with the XID (some kind of obscure
unique x window id) passed in ARGV


so no more magic kill -USR1, 



here's the authentification rule of thumb:
--

in mdk9.0 and previous releases, tools use to call
interactive-vnew('su', 'icon name')

there's no more banner icon, so no more icon name parameter

the su part is now handled by common::require_root_capability()
splited out so that:
- pure gtk+ app can get rid of interactive)
- app that still use gtk+1 such as drakcronat do not badly eat all cpu
  power trying to crash despite gtk-perl exceptions caught by eval {}
  because of interactive using gtk+2


here's the gui rule of thumb:
-

as i already write, tools have to create a toplevem gtk::window when
non embedded and a gtk::plug widget when embeded.

for small stuff, instead of writing pure gtk+ app, you better should
use the interactive api/toolkit.

there's no real doc. you can look:
- at gi/docs/interactive/* in the cvs for basic usage.
- drakedm, patched drakclick, drakxtv



as for gtk+-2 porting:
--
1) easy way: run gi/docs/porting-ugtk 

Re: [Cooker] kernel vulnerability ?

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Pascal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 anyone from mandrake on this ? 
 
 http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0303.2/0226.html

mdk kernel 13mdk #2 was stealthy patched :-)




Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Olivier Blin
   It would be a Wizard/Gui client side front end for Bugzilla.
 Something like drakbug ?

It seems to be a nice tool to help newbies reporting bugs, but how can they know that 
this tool exists ?
I can't see any shortcut for this app in my sweet gnome menus :)



Re: [Cooker] Mailing lists with KMail

2003-03-19 Thread Pascal Cavy
Le Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 04:06, Greg Meyer a écrit :
 On Tuesday 18 March 2003 09:52 pm, HoytDuff wrote:
  On Tuesday 18 March 2003 09:33 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
   On Tuesday 18 March 2003 08:38 pm, Wesley J Landaker wrote:
Middle-click the mailing list folder name. This makes a new message
addressed to the list. =)
  
   You learn something new everyday.  Thank you, I like this much better
   than the context sensitive new message button.
 
  I used it to send this. It does not  create a blank, new message, but
  just replies to whatever message is already selected in that folder. 8(
 
  Shift-L does the same thing.

 Maybe in 3.0.x  When I center click my Cooker ML folder in KDE3.1 I'm
 getting a blank new message addressed to the list.

middle-click works perfectly here with latest cooker.
you have to manually configure the mailing list adress in the folder 
properties.

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Re: [Cooker] urpmi features

2003-03-19 Thread Buchan Milne
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Jason Greenwood wrote:
 My point is that URPMI doesn't resume, precluding the use of it over
 dialup (especially with the flakiness of some mirrors). The other thing
 is that because it doesn't, I would like to use an ftp client that
 supports rsync so I could resume the partial transfer.

AFAIK it should resume/continue etc when using an rsync source.

 As it is now, I
 have to use a regular ftp mirror so I can resume transfers after a
 broken connection (which means I become an unwitting bandwidth hog since
 even if only 1 byte has changed, I download the whole new cooker package
 to test it).


cd /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
wget -c `urpmq --sources package`

Sure, it would be great if urpmi did this, but then it would probably
have to check all the RPMS in cache (rpm -K) or attempt to resume them all.

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] 9.1 final

2003-03-19 Thread Pascal Cavy

Ouiii bravo à toute l'equipe mandrake et à tous les developpeurs/testeurs 
de cooker :)  Jamais le bureau sous  linux n'avait ete aussi net et propre  
:)

yeah bravo to all members of Mandrake and cooker hackers/testers.
The linux desktop has never been so clean and shiny ;)

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Re: [Cooker] MCC Embedded mode - Console doesn't work

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 it is not a bug !
 cf the changelog :
 
 * Mon Mar 03 2003 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9.1-5mdk
   - do not embedd rxvt (fix #1619)

exactly. there're interaction problems (mainly focus) between the
consol and the upper gtk+ app.

the solution was either to embedd a zvt widget or to disable
embedding.

as we have no perl binding for the former, i choose the latter




[Cooker] Re: let document the fscking mcc

2003-03-19 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [-1] always the same bug with email, it's deshumanized and sometimes
  people feel bad because we lack non verbal signals; that's also
  why we easily troll by mail or insult other drivers while
  driving :(

specially when you don't know titi, after knowing him for a day you
give up to try to answer to his mails 
(imagine me knowing him for almost 4 years 8-( )




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] ecawave-0.6.0-1mdk

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  might be, but it's for consistency as described in the rpm-howto..
  things should generally be done in the same way to avoid confusion
  etc.
 
 That is true.

it's true that the howto said that, but that's also true it's outdated
and that png icons are already compressed.

so the rule of thumb among internal packagers is to not recompress png
icons with bzip2




[Cooker] dvb on kernel

2003-03-19 Thread Francesc Pinyol Margalef
Hi!

Is it planned for final 9.1 to update the DVB drivers under
3rdparty/mod_dvb?
Thanks,

Francesc

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[Cooker] [Bug 3445] [drakxtools] unable to connect to lan

2003-03-19 Thread malcolm.cowsill
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3445





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Found from similar bugs to install and run dhcpcd...this changed my IP address by one 
digit 
and solved the problem for me.  So the problem during installation and subsequent 
attempts 
to connect is down to incorrect detection of IP address. 



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I've tried booting with linux noapic acpi=off but still drakconnect unable to 
connect to lan...wizard detects tulip (linksys) nic ok and says dhcp and eth0 
up but fails to connect. Intel 440LX motherboard. Dual boot box so I know rest 
of lan ok.  I would like to help...if you need more info please let me know and 
how to get it...I'll send it you. It worked fine with mdk9.0.



Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If we waited on Marcelo before we made our release, we'd be waiting
 a long time.

yes. we took the fixes we were interested in

 He's the slowest kernel maintainer in history.

which is not so bad for a stable branch

 (He also works for a competitor, so letting him control our release
 schedule is a bad idea anyway).

i do not suspect marcelo to have such behaviour




Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
John Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 BuyLinuxNow are saying that 9.1 is released.
 http://www.buylinuxnow.co.uk/mandrake_9.1.htm
 
 Are they early or am I late?

it has been released but not yet announced.




Re: [Cooker] dvb on kernel

2003-03-19 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2003, 13:35:22 Uhr MET, schrieb Francesc Pinyol Margalef:
 Is it planned for final 9.1 to update the DVB drivers under
 3rdparty/mod_dvb?
No. Don't you think it's a little bit too late to ask this after the
final release?

BTW Isn't the DVB driver in the cooker kernel the latest stable
release (that is no HEAD snapshot)?
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Re: [Cooker] security audit

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 sorry, i don't have any idea of the time needed to audit something
 like drakconf...

there's not so many points where we exec some process or write some
files in drakconf, so this one is easy.

but when you talk about drakconf, i suspect you really want to says
drakconf + all the toolts it runs, don't you ?

this is of course much more work


  I agree that performing an audit on Mandrake tools is important,
  it's laughable to suggest we audit every piece of software we
  include.

 Not every sofware : i was only asking about specific mandrake tools
 and critical ones : i think about verifying a last time, just
 before releasing, that permissions on tools installed in /sbin/ and
 /usr/sbin are correct, for example...

 If fact, my question is : what is done about security before a new
 release ? Is there a specific security last step, as there is a
 features freeze ecc. ?

not much is done.

it may be good that such works is done by people other than mdk
developers.
it would be nice if some volunters check and reports strange things




Re: [Cooker] [Bug 3081] [galaxy-kde] Galaxy causing problems with KDE and GNOME running in tightvnc-server

2003-03-19 Thread Johnt
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 06:40 am, jpre wrote:
 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3081





 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-19 12:40 ---

 I confirmed the effect also on beeing on X-consoles of Solaris 8, AIX
 4.4.3 and HP-UX 11.11. As an example it wasn't possible to start kpat
 and kcontrol on original CDE windows managers.

 Following messages (from HP-UX 11i Console):

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kpat
 [1] 21248
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost

 :10.0.

 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 kbuildsycoca running...
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

 [1]+  Exit 253kpat
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcon
 kconf_update  kcontrol
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcontrol 
 [1] 21300
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kbuildsycoca running...
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
 DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-21300' to 'kcontrol'
 ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
 Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

 [1]+  Exit 255kcontrol

 This is to add to my formerly opened bug report #3129. Note the
 different return codes.

 It's possibly an misuse of XF86free features by developers, witch
 makes it incompatible to X11 industry standards. May be an qt/Xlib-Problem.

 With regards.

 Juergen


 I confirmed the effect also on beeing on X-consoles of Solaris 8, AIX
 4.4.3 and HP-UX 11.11. As an example it wasn't possible to start kpat
 and kcontrol.

 Following messages (from HP-UX 11i Console) with different return code:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kpat
 [1] 21248
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost

 :10.0.

 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 kbuildsycoca running...
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

 [1]+  Exit 253kpat
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcon
 kconf_update  kcontrol
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcontrol 
 [1] 21300
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kbuildsycoca running...
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
 Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
 DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-21300' to 'kcontrol'
 ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
 Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

 [1]+  Exit 255kcontrol

 This is to add to my formerly opened bug report #3129. Note the
 different return codes.

 It's possibly an misuse of XF86free features of developers, witch
 makes it incompatible to X11 industry standards.

 With regards.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 An:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Both KDE and GNOME seem to be having trouble with Galaxy
 tightvnc-server-1.2.7-2.  It seems to be focused on 

[Cooker] [Bug 2829] [tmdns] 9.1RC2: DNS for .local and tmdns

2003-03-19 Thread rrichards
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2829





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Joerg, I am taking this discussion off the list so follow up via email. This 
looks more like a networking issue than any type of bug, so dont want to be 
flooding the list with this discussion.

I had sent you an email a few days back with some troubleshooting steps, but 
not sure if you received it.



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I'm very late on this report, but I've been trying to get it fixed to no avail. I have 
two boxes, one 
running 9.0, the other 9.1RC2. Both get an IP address allocated via DHCP and both are 
on the 
same network. However, for the 9.1 box it cannot seem to resolve hostnames correctly, 
forcing 
you to specify IP addresses in your applications. (Resolving doesn't seem to be 
working 
correctly) In both the machines, /etc/resolv.conf looks as follows. (Automagically 
configured 
from DHCP) 
 
/etc/resolv.conf: 
nameserver 10.1.1.16 
nameserver 10.1.1.10 
search af.didata.local 
 
Now on the 9.0 box I do a ping (ping terminal.af.didata.local) to a Windows terminal 
server and 
it works correctly: 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ ping terminal.af.didata.local 
PING terminal.af.didata.local (10.1.0.240) from 10.1.35.66 : 56(84) bytes of data. 
64 bytes from terminal.af.didata.local (10.1.0.240): icmp_seq=1 ttl=125 time=0.360 ms 
... 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ 
 
From the 9.1 box I get the following: 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ ping terminal.af.didata.local 
ping: unknown host terminal.af.didata.local 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ 
 
Ok, but networking is up and running: 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ ping 10.1.0.240 
PING terminal.af.didata.local (10.1.0.240) from 10.1.35.66 : 56(84) bytes of data. 
64 bytes from 10.1.0.240: icmp_seq=1 ttl=125 time=0.374 ms 
... 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ 
 
In other news, doing a ping terminal on the 9.0 box works, on the 9.1 box not. 
However, doing 
a nslookup on terminal on both boxes results in the following: 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ nslookup terminal 
... 
Name:   terminal.af.didata.local 
Address: 10.1.0.240 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jaco]$ 
 
Which means that at least that part works. I'm stumped. Any ssh, telnet, rdesktop, 
etc. to any 
hostname (with or without the af.didata.local domain) doesn't work. Doing an nslookup 
and 
using that IP to connect to, does. The 9.1 machine was upgraded from a working 9.0 box 
to 
9.1RC1 which broke the addresseing. RC2 has not addressed this problem. 
 
In addition in 9.1 /etc/hosts still does not contain 127.0.0.1  localhost.localdomain 
 localhost, 
instead only 127.0.0.1  localhost which breaks some applications. (eg. Eclipse 
debugger, not 
part of main but in full use here) On new bootups the DHCP configuration seems to 
change it 
back to localhost again, forcing you to make the change manually to get your 
applications to 
work.



[Cooker] [Bug 2846] [gnome-utils] Floppy formatter incompatible with supermount

2003-03-19 Thread reinout
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2846

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No, I still get the message that the device is busy.

Strangely I can't reproduce my own workaround anymore :(




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The GNOME floppy formatter only works when /mnt/floppy is manually umounted
first. There is nothing to indicate to the user what the problem is when he
tries to format a floppy and it gives a weird error message.

Suggestion: start the floppy formatter with a script that umounts the floppy
(needs suid=root??) first and remounts afterwards.



Re: [Cooker] MCC Embedded mode - Console doesn't work

2003-03-19 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  the solution was either to embedd a zvt widget or to disable
  embedding.
 
 ZVT is dead.. VTE is THE terminal widget now..

anyway same problem as zvt, no perl binding, so let disable rxvt
embedding




Re: [Cooker] kernel-source and kernel-source-includes

2003-03-19 Thread Buchan Milne
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Steffen Barszus wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:07, Guillaume Rousse wrote:

And how did they fetched the rest of the system ?

 Maybe they bought it ? Y'know there are boxed sets in the stores.

In which case, they either got:
1)kernel source (Powerpack, ProSuite etc) and binary drivers (NVidia,
some winmodems etc)
2)Same, but no kernel source (standard, or does it have all 3 GPL CDs now)?
3)kernel-source (full GPL set)

 And
 sometimes there is an update of the kernel (thinking of 9.0). Then you
may
 want to have 3d acceleration or your modem running with that kernel.

Well, then they needed to download a 10MB kernel anyway, and NVidia does
 have binaries for the kernel update for 9.0.

 But yes,
 who cares ...

 Anyway it was a question if it is possible or if it would improve sth.
, if
 not, it's ok.

Would be good, but even better not to need to compile kernel modules ...

Buchan

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[Cooker] When the isos will be avalaible?

2003-03-19 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
I had a recent cooker as a second system in my hard driver, but the cooker 
downloaded yesterday gave me lots of problem (the installation were looking 
for an old kernel file and some more not found packages; probably due that 
the scripts were still not updated). 

Now I am runing 9.0, but I need 9.1 to make good looking pf files using LaTeX 
files (the pdf fonts looks ugly when I compile a file, but under 9.1 there 
were very good!).

At the moment I haven't seen a final 9.1 in any mirror, neither the mirrors 
starting to download the isos.

So, will be the isos avalaibles soon or must I install the old cooker runing I 
had? (from two mondays ago)

Thanks in advance for the comments.

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España (Spain)



Re: [Cooker] When the isos will be avalaible?

2003-03-19 Thread Jan Ciger
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 Now I am runing 9.0, but I need 9.1 to make good looking pf files using
 LaTeX files (the pdf fonts looks ugly when I compile a file, but under 9.1
 there were very good!).

You can do the same in 9.0. Just add \usepackage{times} into the preamble of 
you document and that should allow nice PDFs. 


Jan
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Re: [Cooker] [Bug 3439] [mozilla] Problem with JRE

2003-03-19 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, aw280 wrote:

 Of course it might cause trouble now Blackdown have gone to GCC3, as
 your case shows :\. Hope Sun follow suit soon, then Fred can recompile
 Moz and Galeon and we can dump GCC2 forever, hehe.

- BlackDown JRE for x86 comes as both GCC2 and GCC3 builds.
- Sun recently switched internally to gcc3.2 for JRE (1.4.2) and OOo 
development.




Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 12:54, Thierry Vignaud wrote:

  (He also works for a competitor, so letting him control our release
  schedule is a bad idea anyway).
 
 i do not suspect marcelo to have such behaviour

I don't think David meant to say Marcelo would intentionally modify the
kernel release schedule to disadvantage a competitor. But you can
probably expect that if he's going to try and stabilise the kernel in
time for the release of any distribution, it'll be the distribution he
works on.
-- 
adamw




Re: [Cooker] When the isos will be avalaible?

2003-03-19 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
Not Jan, if I put that package (times) I loose the accents due to the use of 
Babel package (latin 1).



El Miércoles, 19 de Marzo de 2003 15:04, Jan Ciger escribió:
  Now I am runing 9.0, but I need 9.1 to make good looking pf files using
  LaTeX files (the pdf fonts looks ugly when I compile a file, but under
  9.1 there were very good!).

 You can do the same in 9.0. Just add \usepackage{times} into the preamble
 of you document and that should allow nice PDFs.


 Jan

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Re: [Cooker] security audit

2003-03-19 Thread Henri
Thierry Vignaud wrote:

Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 

sorry, i don't have any idea of the time needed to audit something
like drakconf...
   

there's not so many points where we exec some process or write some
files in drakconf, so this one is easy.
but when you talk about drakconf, i suspect you really want to says
drakconf + all the toolts it runs, don't you ?
 

Yes, of course. That would not make any sense to suggest to audit 
drakconf but not every *drake tool.

this is of course much more work

 

Of cours ! Building a secure, easy, optimized...ecc OS is definitly a 
long and hard work !

 

I agree that performing an audit on Mandrake tools is important,
it's laughable to suggest we audit every piece of software we
include.
 

Not every sofware : i was only asking about specific mandrake tools
and critical ones : i think about verifying a last time, just
before releasing, that permissions on tools installed in /sbin/ and
/usr/sbin are correct, for example...
   

 

If fact, my question is : what is done about security before a new
release ? Is there a specific security last step, as there is a
features freeze ecc. ?
   

not much is done.

it may be good that such works is done by people other than mdk
developers.
it would be nice if some volunters check and reports strange things
 

Why not trying to develop some partnership with engineer schools ? I 
think mandrake team could go and meet students, offering Cooker CDs and 
ask students to test it, or organize a debug party : one day with 
students and mandrake team, testing things and correcting bugs on the 
fly : that would be great for students, would be a good publicity, and 
would be useful...
Of course this does not concerns security fixes. But if students are in 
the abbit of working with mandrake, perhaps they will have the idea to 
join or create projects around it.





Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] ecawave-0.6.0-1mdk

2003-03-19 Thread Buchan Milne
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Thierry Vignaud wrote:
 Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 it's true that the howto said that, but that's also true it's outdated
 and that png icons are already compressed.

 so the rule of thumb among internal packagers is to not recompress png
 icons with bzip2


Adding to the problems of people who try and build from source+Mandrake
CVS, since the icons don't make it into CVS.

So, the commit scripts should be fixed to commit uncompressed png's.

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 07:55 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
 John Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  BuyLinuxNow are saying that 9.1 is released.
  http://www.buylinuxnow.co.uk/mandrake_9.1.htm
 
  Are they early or am I late?

 it has been released but not yet announced.

O.k. - So let's say I announce a release several days before it really is 
released, then it is released, then it is available and then it can be 
shipped and about three weeks to a month lapse before I get it. All this 
PROVIDED that Mandrake really did release it just a few days after I 
announced it, and not a couple of weeks later.

The truth is this company posted that it was released on their website prior 
to it actually being released on the hope and.or desire that it would be 
released on some time table that wouldn't cause them or their customers any 
grief. In some places this is illegal. I know the credit card companies take 
a dim view of such business practices. Especially when a company does not 
clearly state an expected release date and instead says that it has been 
released. This firm, btw, uses paypal and credit cards.

Bob Finch



Re: [Cooker] 9.1 final

2003-03-19 Thread Robert Fox
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 23:02, Frederic Lepied wrote:
 9.1 is gone to production. In the name of MandrakeSoft engineering
 team, I would like to thank all the cookers for the great help you
 provided to build this release. Thank you very much !

May the source be with you!  As usual - great work!!  All the best for
this release and the bright future to come!  Kudos . .

R.Fox




Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread Sascha Noyes
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On Wednesday 19 March 2003 09:49, w9ya wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 March 2003 07:55 am, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
  John Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   BuyLinuxNow are saying that 9.1 is released.
   http://www.buylinuxnow.co.uk/mandrake_9.1.htm
  
   Are they early or am I late?
 
  it has been released but not yet announced.

 O.k. - So let's say I announce a release several days before it really is
 released, then it is released, then it is available and then it can be
 shipped and about three weeks to a month lapse before I get it. All this
 PROVIDED that Mandrake really did release it just a few days after I
 announced it, and not a couple of weeks later.

 The truth is this company posted that it was released on their website
 prior to it actually being released on the hope and.or desire that it would
 be released on some time table that wouldn't cause them or their customers
 any grief. In some places this is illegal. I know the credit card companies
 take a dim view of such business practices. Especially when a company
 does not clearly state an expected release date and instead says that it
 has been released. This firm, btw, uses paypal and credit cards.

 Bob Finch

I'm not sure exactly what you are getting at. Mandrake store sells pre-orders. 
(Notice the pre). A mandrake developer saying to the testers on the cooker 
mailing list that 9.1 is out is not an official announcement. There has been 
some controversy during the 9.0 pre-order process because of the credit cards 
being billed a long time before the product is shipped. The official 
announcement of the pre-order of 9.1 on Mandrakeclub has a warning that 
credit cards will be billed beforehand. This warning should be added under 
the important information heading for the pre-orders on mandrakestore.

Sascha Noyes

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Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread scott chevalley
Greg Meyer wrote:

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 06:07 am, Jan Ciger wrote:
 

Jan,

  This just occured to me  When I had beta3 installed and just
before RC1 came out qt3 and lib1t3 where upgraded.  Let me see if my
older disks are anywhere around... (slim chance) but just about that
time my ability to launch kde3 died. And at that time I was using XFree
3.3.6 (the performace is better in an ATI Mobility chip than earlier
versions of the 4 series XFree) Now if I go into 3.3.6 I get the exact
same reaction from kde in normal mode as I do in Xnest or vnc with 4.3.
The error it dies on is that DCOP server is failing.  btw I can
reproduce this error at any time by switching from one XFree version to
the other.  I found libqt3 8mdk and current is 13 let me downgrade and
try it
James
 

This just confirms it - XFree 3.3.6 didn't have Render yet, that came only
with the 4.x series, that's why you have the problem.
Some other people here already confirmed, that the problem goes away, when
you disable antialiasing in Qt and recompile it.
I guess, that the bug is in Qt's handling of antialiasing, it does not fall
back to non-antialiased mode when Render is not available and crashes the
application.
Jan
   

I'll ask again then.  Should this be reported upstream?  I didn't see anything 
about this in the KDE bugzilla.  I did not check trolltech.
 

It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between 12mdk 
and 13mdk that forces the use of AA fonts, which will fail if the Render 
extension is not present.  There's a link in a previous message that 
points to a version of libqt3 without that patch and it works fine.

Scott





Re: [Cooker] 9.2 wishlist: urpmi --optimise

2003-03-19 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 04:16 pm, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Narfi Stefansson wrote:
 I believe that Steffen is right that mjpegtools was compiled without
 MMX in the 9.0 rpms.
 When I compile for i586 and athlon side by side and I enable MMX for
 both, I only get a maximum of 10-15% speed difference.
 The difference in with/without MMX is of course huge :-)

 No package will be built with MMX optimizations by default as there are
 Pentium out there without those extensions. However, if your application
 dynamically links against some optimized DSOs that would be fine to put
 those libraries in */lib/mmx/* or */lib/sse{,2}/*. But you will be stuck
 if they decided to dlopen() their plugins/libraries.

OK, how about a half-step towards Gentoo?

If URPMI knows what architecture it's really running under, you could add a 
new --optimi[sz]e switch to it so that...

urpmi --optimise mjpegtools

...would download (if needed) or fetch from source CDs the appropriate 
SRPM(s), install them, rebuild them for the correct CPU, and (if needed) 
install the optimised RPMs over the top of the existing unoptimised 
package(s).

It would also be relatively straightforward to cache/log the names of packages 
that had been optimised, to allow updates on same to be automagically 
re-optimised.

What would be truly magnificant would be a way to do this and cache the 
results, so that the recompile need only be done once if the package is 
destined for a flock of identical machines.

Next project, of course, would be `urpmi --optimize-all' followed by a 2-day 
pause while everything gets torn down, rebuilt and reinstalled. (-:

Cheers; Leon



Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:25 am, scott chevalley wrote:

 
 I'll ask again then.  Should this be reported upstream?  I didn't see
  anything about this in the KDE bugzilla.  I did not check trolltech.

 It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between 12mdk
 and 13mdk that forces the use of AA fonts, which will fail if the Render
 extension is not present.  There's a link in a previous message that
 points to a version of libqt3 without that patch and it works fine.

LOL, those rpms are mine, and I discovered the patch with others help pointing 
me in the right direction.  I meant that if is a qt bug that prevents it from 
falling back to no AA when no render extension is present, should I report it 
to trolltech?  Or will the kde team (or someone from mandrakesoft handle 
that.

-- 
Greg



[Cooker] [Bug 3081] [galaxy-kde] Galaxy causing problems with KDE and GNOME running in tightvnc-server

2003-03-19 Thread jpre
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3081





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I confirmed the effect also on beeing on X-consoles of Solaris 8, AIX 
4.4.3 and HP-UX 11.11. As an example it wasn't possible to start kpat 
and kcontrol on original CDE windows managers.

Following messages (from HP-UX 11i Console):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kpat
[1] 21248
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost
:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
kbuildsycoca running...
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

[1]+  Exit 253kpat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcon
kconf_update  kcontrol
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcontrol 
[1] 21300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kbuildsycoca running...
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-21300' to 'kcontrol'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

[1]+  Exit 255kcontrol

This is to add to my formerly opened bug report #3129. Note the 
different return codes.

It's possibly an misuse of XF86free features by developers, witch 
makes it incompatible to X11 industry standards. May be an qt/Xlib-Problem.

With regards.

Juergen


I confirmed the effect also on beeing on X-consoles of Solaris 8, AIX 
4.4.3 and HP-UX 11.11. As an example it wasn't possible to start kpat 
and kcontrol.

Following messages (from HP-UX 11i Console) with different return code:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kpat
[1] 21248
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost
:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
kbuildsycoca running...
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

[1]+  Exit 253kpat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcon
kconf_update  kcontrol
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kcontrol 
[1] 21300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jpre]$ kbuildsycoca running...
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display localhost:10.0.
Xlib:  extension RENDER missing on display localhost:10.0.
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-21300' to 'kcontrol'
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

[1]+  Exit 255kcontrol

This is to add to my formerly opened bug report #3129. Note the 
different return codes.

It's possibly an misuse of XF86free features of developers, witch 
makes it incompatible to X11 industry standards.

With regards.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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explained later.

Fluxbox works just fine, just GNOME and KDE have exhibited issues.

KDE loads the wallpaper and then various 

Re: [Cooker] Ideas 4 future (urpmi incremental, cookerdrake)

2003-03-19 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 05:39 pm, Chad wrote:
 Then simply type some thing along the lines of urpms (urpmi for SRPMS)
 urpms flags=--mach=k6-2 -o3  kde-full
 urpms would then sort out the dependencies required for a full install of
 kde the kde packages build them in the correct order with the CFLAGS and
 CXXFLAGS set to the flags option and install them setting up kdm or mdkdm.
 I'd also like to be able to do the same with gcc so  urpms flags=xxx 
 gcc

Hear, hear! (-:

I'd also like to implement a simple technique for turning the updates list 
into an incremental download. New updates are simply appended to an alternate 
hdlist.cz-ish file (gzip has always known how to cope with this) - maybe call 
it hdlist.incz - and all urpmi has to do is `resume' downloading against its 
cached version to get only the bits of the hdlist that have changed since it 
last looked. This would turn megabytes-long re-downloads of the updates list 
into kilobytes-long resyncs.

 3)The final suggestion I have is for the creation of an App called
 something like drakecooker or cookerdrake. This would be a program for
 helping with cooker testing.

Hear, hear!

Cheers; Leon




[Cooker] [Bug 3304] [drakconf] Controlcenter-installing grub

2003-03-19 Thread thomas.vill
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3304

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Hello,


Am Wed, 19 Mar 2003 04:38:20 -0500 (EST)


May be,

thank you


Thomas Vill




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Controlcenter:
if i want to install or edit grub, there is no way to install grub completely on
/fd0?
the file /boot/menu/list can`t be searched in another partition.
If i want to edit the menu.lst in controllcenter, the tab-funktion of grub wont
work-why?
After installation gmessage open-but with no text?

regards

Thomas Vill



[Cooker] Bla, bla, but no 9.1 date

2003-03-19 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
Cooker seems to be stoped from yesterday.

I suppose lots of Mandrake users as me are waiting to see the isos into the 
mirrors. But nothing at the moment and, worse, not idea about the date of the 
release.

Could anyone of the Mandrake team give us a clue?

Thanks a lot, yours sincerely

-- 
Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
Departamento de Biología Vegetal
Universidad de Murcia
E-30100 Murcia
España (Spain)



Re: [Cooker] Re: Mandrake 9.1 released before kernel 2.4.21 final?

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:03 am, Sascha Noyes wrote:
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   John Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BuyLinuxNow are saying that 9.1 is released.
http://www.buylinuxnow.co.uk/mandrake_9.1.htm
   
Are they early or am I late?
  
   it has been released but not yet announced.
 
  O.k. - So let's say I announce a release several days before it really is
  released, then it is released, then it is available and then it can be
  shipped and about three weeks to a month lapse before I get it. All this
  PROVIDED that Mandrake really did release it just a few days after I
  announced it, and not a couple of weeks later.
 
  The truth is this company posted that it was released on their website
  prior to it actually being released on the hope and.or desire that it
  would be released on some time table that wouldn't cause them or their
  customers any grief. In some places this is illegal. I know the credit
  card companies take a dim view of such business practices. Especially
  when a company does not clearly state an expected release date and
  instead says that it has been released. This firm, btw, uses paypal and
  credit cards.
 
  Bob Finch

 I'm not sure exactly what you are getting at. Mandrake store sells

SImple really, check the link, that is a third party and not Mandrake 
declaring it was released before it was.

Bob

 pre-orders. (Notice the pre). A mandrake developer saying to the testers
 on the cooker mailing list that 9.1 is out is not an official announcement.
 There has been some controversy during the 9.0 pre-order process because of
 the credit cards being billed a long time before the product is shipped.
 The official announcement of the pre-order of 9.1 on Mandrakeclub has a
 warning that credit cards will be billed beforehand. This warning should be
 added under the important information heading for the pre-orders on
 mandrakestore.

 Sascha Noyes

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 wishlist: urpmi --optimise

2003-03-19 Thread w9ya
Perhaps Mandrake can/would compile the whole thing (distro) -mcpu i686 -02 
instead of -march ???. That way you can ...have your cake and eat it too.

Also, for those that just have to have more than what that offers (which is 
little as it turns out , according to the gcc folks), then have the build 
process passed a variable for compilation from a rc file in etc, which 
itself can be changed easily enough. Many distros are doing this now.

Bob Finch


On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:33 am, Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 March 2003 04:16 pm, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Narfi Stefansson wrote:
  I believe that Steffen is right that mjpegtools was compiled without
  MMX in the 9.0 rpms.
  When I compile for i586 and athlon side by side and I enable MMX for
  both, I only get a maximum of 10-15% speed difference.
  The difference in with/without MMX is of course huge :-)
 
  No package will be built with MMX optimizations by default as there are
  Pentium out there without those extensions. However, if your application
  dynamically links against some optimized DSOs that would be fine to put
  those libraries in */lib/mmx/* or */lib/sse{,2}/*. But you will be stuck
  if they decided to dlopen() their plugins/libraries.

 OK, how about a half-step towards Gentoo?

 If URPMI knows what architecture it's really running under, you could add a
 new --optimi[sz]e switch to it so that...

 urpmi --optimise mjpegtools

 ...would download (if needed) or fetch from source CDs the appropriate
 SRPM(s), install them, rebuild them for the correct CPU, and (if needed)
 install the optimised RPMs over the top of the existing unoptimised
 package(s).

 It would also be relatively straightforward to cache/log the names of
 packages that had been optimised, to allow updates on same to be
 automagically re-optimised.

 What would be truly magnificant would be a way to do this and cache the
 results, so that the recompile need only be done once if the package is
 destined for a flock of identical machines.

 Next project, of course, would be `urpmi --optimize-all' followed by a
 2-day pause while everything gets torn down, rebuilt and reinstalled. (-:

 Cheers; Leon




[Cooker] [Bug 1511] [kdebase] word wrap in kate joins words together.

2003-03-19 Thread hamster
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-19 13:24 ---
This bug still exists in 3.1.83mdk.



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When kate perfoms wordwrapping, any words that are wrapped from the end of one line 
become joined to the words at the start of the second line.

For example:

If I type the following paragraph in in kate:
This is going to be a very long sentence to see what kate does when it has to
automatically wordwrap existing text. I'll probably even have to make it two
sentences in order to get enough lines to demonstrate with. The inserted text
will appear between angular brackets.

Then insert another silly sentence into the top line, and the wrapped output looks as 
follows:
This is going to be a very long sentence here is the text that I have
inserted in my paragraph to see what kate does when it has toautomatically
wordwrap existing text. I'll probably even have to make it twosentences in order 
to get enough lines to demonstrate with. The inserted textwill appear between 
angular brackets.

This output demostrates that kate is failing to put spaces between the words that are 
moved onto different lines and the words that are already there. vis toautomatically, 
twosentences, textwil

H



[Cooker] [Bug 2846] [gnome-utils] Floppy formatter incompatible with supermount

2003-03-19 Thread fcrozat
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2846

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You get the message directly in mformat ?



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tries to format a floppy and it gives a weird error message.

Suggestion: start the floppy formatter with a script that umounts the floppy
(needs suid=root??) first and remounts afterwards.



[Cooker] [Bug 2645] [kdebase] preselct user setting in login manager being ignored

2003-03-19 Thread hamster
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2645

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-19 13:25 ---
Still present in 3.1.83mdk



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I've used the KDE control centre System -- Login Manager -- Convenience to 
preselect a user and to focus the password field. 
 
However on login, this setting is being ingored - I still have to click on the 
username (which brings up a new window) and then click on the password field.



[Cooker] [Bug 2846] [gnome-utils] Floppy formatter incompatible with supermount

2003-03-19 Thread reinout
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2846

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yes, when I started mformat from the command line the text output was
identical to the output shown in the floppy formatter error dialog.




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The GNOME floppy formatter only works when /mnt/floppy is manually umounted
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tries to format a floppy and it gives a weird error message.

Suggestion: start the floppy formatter with a script that umounts the floppy
(needs suid=root??) first and remounts afterwards.



[Cooker] [Bug 2846] [mtools] Floppy formatter incompatible with supermount

2003-03-19 Thread fcrozat
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2846

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Ok, not a gfloppy bug..

reassigning



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tries to format a floppy and it gives a weird error message.

Suggestion: start the floppy formatter with a script that umounts the floppy
(needs suid=root??) first and remounts afterwards.



[Cooker] [Bug 3446] [Installation] New: no XFS support in HD or network boot floppy images

2003-03-19 Thread jacob
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3446

   Product: Installation
 Component: Installation
   Summary: no XFS support in HD or network boot floppy images
   Version: 1.809
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
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There does not appear to be support for the XFS file system when doing an 
install from the hard drive or from the network. However the option to change a 
partition to XFS is there. I tested this install on a generic Micron 3400 server, a 
Micron GX+ laptop and a generic AMD XP 1600 system. All with the same 
results. When attempting to mount a partition that is XFS the mount fails with an 
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[Cooker] [Bug 3446] [Installation] no XFS support in HD or network boot floppy images

2003-03-19 Thread jacob
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3446





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-19 14:22 ---
Sorry, I forget this bug was found with 9.1rc2 



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Micron GX+ laptop and a generic AMD XP 1600 system. All with the same 
results. When attempting to mount a partition that is XFS the mount fails with an 
error of Invalid Argument



[Cooker] [Bug 3446] [Installation] no XFS support in HD or network boot floppy images

2003-03-19 Thread waschk
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3446

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The xfs modules don't fit on a floppy.



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Micron GX+ laptop and a generic AMD XP 1600 system. All with the same 
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error of Invalid Argument



[Cooker] [Bug 3446] [Installation] no XFS support in HD or network boot floppy images

2003-03-19 Thread waschk
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-19 14:41 ---
Well, maybe it would be possible to put them on an additional floppy.



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partition to XFS is there. I tested this install on a generic Micron 3400 server, a 
Micron GX+ laptop and a generic AMD XP 1600 system. All with the same 
results. When attempting to mount a partition that is XFS the mount fails with an 
error of Invalid Argument



[Cooker] Mkcd --check problems with latest Cooker

2003-03-19 Thread Robert Fox
 Since the last week I've been getting many errors using mkcd --check
 against my local Cooker syncronized daily.
 
 I know how to use gendistrib - but I kinda expected now that 9.1 is
 finalized that Cooker would check properly.
 
 Please see attached output.
 
 Thx,
 R.Fox
 
 
 

 checkDiscs: depslist /mnt/hd/cooker/Mandrake/base/depslist.ordered
 checkDiscs: duplicate version in /mnt/hd/cooker/Mandrake/base/depslist.ordered:
 perl-Net-DNS-SEC-0.08-2mdk.noarch
 perl-Net-DNS-SEC
 FAILED
 
 checkDiscs: duplicate version in hdlists:ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position 
 between hdlist 2 rpm dictd-1.9.1-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 webalizer-2.01.10-11mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 thttpd-2.20c-2mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libCommonC++2_1-1.0.8-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libffmpeg0.4.6-0.4.6-2mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libdvdplay0-1.0.0-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libfftw2-2.1.3-11mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 gnome-vlc-0.5.0-4mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 gvlc-0.5.0-4mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm vlc-0.5.0-4mdk.i586 
 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 vlc-plugin-a52-0.5.0-4mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 vlc-plugin-mad-0.5.0-4mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libggz1-0.0.6-2mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libccscript2_0_4-2.4.4-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-br-0.2.1-8mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-ca-1.0-12mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-de-3.1.20-22mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-el-1.0-7mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-en-3.2.06-8mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-es-1.7-5mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-fr-1.0-15mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-nl-1.1-10mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-no-1.1a-11mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-pl-0.8-6mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-ru-1.1-14mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-sk-0.1.9-4mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 ispell-sv-1.2.1-10mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libbayonnerpc0-1.1.11-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libccaudio1_0-1.0.6-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libggz-client2-0.0.6-2mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 apache-common-1.3.27-8mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 shared-mime-info-0.10-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libsamplerate0-0.0.13-3mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 festlex-POSLEX-1.4.3-1mdk.noarch and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 hackabiword-1.1.3-3mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 pygtk2.0-wrapper-1.99.15-5mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm rox-1.3.7-1mdk.i586 
 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR checkDiscs: inconsistency in position between hdlist 2 rpm 
 libraptor0-0.9.8-1mdk.i586 and depslist.ordered
 ERROR 

[Cooker] [Bug 3447] [mozilla] New: mozilla directory not properly named

2003-03-19 Thread jerome.bouat
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3447

   Product: mozilla
 Component: packaging
   Summary: mozilla directory not properly named
   Version: 1.3-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I searched for new plugins in Konqueror.
It didn't found the plugins installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/plugins.
In the default directory list
where Konqueror have to search for plugins,
there is the /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/plugins entry
but no /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins entry.

Since some plugin installers install plugins
in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/plugins directory,
I suggest to create a symbolic link:
cd /usr/lib; ln -s mozilla-1.3 mozilla;

This fix the problem of Konqueror mozilla plugins detection.



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[Cooker] [Bug 3439] [mozilla] Problem with JRE

2003-03-19 Thread aw280
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3439





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Everything in Mandrake is compiled with GCC3 except two packages - Mozilla and
Galeon - purely so Sun's flipping Java RPMs will work, since that's what most
people use. Of course it might cause trouble now Blackdown have gone to GCC3, as
your case shows :\. Hope Sun follow suit soon, then Fred can recompile Moz and
Galeon and we can dump GCC2 forever, hehe.



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Blackdown's JRE 1.4.1-01 does not work with Mandrake's mozilla-1.3 i586 rpms.
Specifically, the plugin does not appear in about:plugins and java applets are
ignored. The symlink in /usr/lib/mozilla-1.3/plugins is correct and the problem
does not occur when I use Red Hat's mozilla-1.3 rpms.



[Cooker] [Bug 3347] [Hardware] ATI RADEON 9700

2003-03-19 Thread mail
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3347

[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever Confirmed|0   |1



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During Installation, my ATI radeon 9700 is recognized as a RADEON card. When
testing, the computer doesn't seems to send any signal to my screen (dell 1800
FP digital). No luck with pressing ALT-F1 or any other terminal, no more luck
with CTRL-ALT-BCKSPACE.

I had to restart computer manually CTRL-ALT-DEL did not work neither. I don't
think the PC hung because the numlock led was still responding.

On reboot, the X11 did try to start but leaving me with a no-signal screen. But
then, I could switch to another terminal (ALT-F2)



Re: [Cooker] Bla, bla, but no 9.1 date

2003-03-19 Thread Pascal Terjan
Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
Could anyone of the Mandrake team give us a clue?
I'm not from Mandrake team but I pretty sure : March 2003 :-)




[Cooker] [Bug 1118] [kernel] general protection fault on shutdown

2003-03-19 Thread Peter.Williams
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1118





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Confirmed bug is still valid in 2.4.21 pre4.11mdk.  I'll update to latest and 
recompile with the config option 'CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF' set to Y and 
report back the findings.



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Kernel 2.4.21-0-pre3.1 has a general protection fault on shutdown.  It prints
Power down and then dumps the gpf message plus all the registers, etc.

ksymoops reports:

ksymoops 2.4.8 on i586 2.4.21-0.pre3.1mdk.  Options used
 -V (default)
 -k /proc/ksyms (default)
 -l /proc/modules (default)
 -o /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.pre3.1mdk/ (default)
 -m /boot/System.map-2.4.21-0.pre3.1mdk (default)

Warning: You did not tell me where to find symbol information.  I will
assume that the log matches the kernel and modules that are running
right now and I'll use the default options above for symbol resolution.
If the current kernel and/or modules do not match the log, you can get
more accurate output by telling me the kernel version and where to find
map, modules, ksyms etc.  ksymoops -h explains the options.

Warning (compare_ksyms_lsmod): module ext3 is in lsmod but not in ksyms,
probably no symbols exported
CPU:0
EIP:0050:[872f]  Not tainted
Using defaults from ksymoops -t elf32-i386 -a i386
EFLAGS: 00010047
eax: 5301   ebx: 0001 ecx: 0003   edx: 
esi: 8136   edi: 0286 ebp: 6789   esp: c7b27dcc
ds: 00058   es:   ss: 0018
Process halt (pid: 1758, stackpage=c7b27000)
Stack:  028682df 8236  7dee6789 0001c7b2  0002 5307
  81250058 80fa 80cd 0016 00488036 c7b27e40
c011498a 0010 c7b27e40 0286 0018 0018 c0303992 c7b27e48
Call Trace: [c011498a] (0xc7b27e0c))
[c011] (0xc7b27e2c))
[c0114a54] (0xc7b27e44))
[c0114a83] (0xc7b27e60))
[c0114c37] (0xc7b27e70))
[c015cd00] (0xc7b27e88))
[c0107392] (0xc7b27e9c))
[c0126ba6] (0xc7b27ea4))
[c011a85b] (0xc7b27eb8))
[c0125415] (0xc7b27ec8))
[c01254a0] (0xc7b27edc))
[c01256d1] (0xc7b27f00))
[c0125e3e] (0xc7b27f2c))
[c014ff12] (0xc7b27f54))
[c013ef61] (0xc7b27f6c))
[c013d948] (0xc7b27f88))
[c013d9b5] (0xc7be7fac))
[c01090b3] (0xc7b27fc0))
Code: Bad EIP value.


EIP; 872f Before first symbol   =

esp; c7b27dcc _end+77ed534/d48f7c8

Trace; c011498a apm_bios_call_simple+3a/70
Trace; c011 save_i387_fxsave+110/120
Trace; c0114a54 set_power_state+24/40
Trace; c0114a83 set_system_power_state+13/20
Trace; c0114c37 apm_cpu_idle+117/150
Trace; c015cd00 proc_register+50/90
Trace; c0107392 machine_power_off+12/20
Trace; c0126ba6 sys_reboot+c6/1d0
Trace; c011a85b wake_up_process+b/10
Trace; c0125415 deliver_signal+55/60
Trace; c01254a0 send_sig_info+80/90
Trace; c01256d1 kill_something_info+b1/170
Trace; c0125e3e sys_kill+3e/50
Trace; c014ff12 dput+92/120
Trace; c013ef61 fput+c1/110
Trace; c013d948 filp_close+38/60
Trace; c013d9b5 sys_close+45/60
Trace; c01090b3 system_call+33/40


2 warnings issued.  Results may not be reliable.

Any thoughts on this one?

If you need any further info let me know.

Thanks,
Gordy



[Cooker] [Bug 3448] [XFree86] New: bad X nice value

2003-03-19 Thread jerome.bouat
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3448

   Product: XFree86
 Component: packaging
   Summary: bad X nice value
   Version: 4.3-5mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: critical
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I saw that X had a 0 nice value.
It previously had -10 nice value (9.0 release).

Having a 0 nice value gived me some problems
when I created a software with a high framerate (24 frames/s).
My X server could not follow this rate for the given window size
and it become overloaded
because it used the most part of its time
in managing memory.
The more it became late,
the more it had to manage memory (not displayed frames)
and the more it became slow.
It bringed my computer to crash.

I agree that my software should adapt its framerate
(what I did later),
but the problem is that
an non root user crashed the system
(i.e. a developper testing a new software) !
Think at the other users
which used the node I crashed !
Simply changing the nice value to -1
fixed the problem.

Previous (r 9.0) -10 nice value was good.
I think that all what handles
user interface have to be
more near from real time.

In case X server is not used,
it will not consume CPU time.
For application server use,
simply shutdown X
or manually increase X nice value.



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Re: [Cooker] Bla, bla, but no 9.1 date

2003-03-19 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
Till said me that the cooker is now uptodate (yesterday I downloaded cooker 
but some script were still old and the iso creation gave me lot of errors), 
so tomorrow morning I will update my cooker miror and create the isos.

Thank so much for your help

El Miércoles, 19 de Marzo de 2003 17:03, Greg Meyer escribió:
 On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:42 am, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
  Cooker seems to be stoped from yesterday.
 
  I suppose lots of Mandrake users as me are waiting to see the isos into
  the mirrors. But nothing at the moment and, worse, not idea about the
  date of the release.
 
  Could anyone of the Mandrake team give us a clue?
 
  Thanks a lot, yours sincerely

 Why don't you just mirror cooker and install from hard disk?  It's a much
 faster install anyway.

-- 
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Departamento de Biología Vegetal
Universidad de Murcia
E-30100 Murcia
España (Spain)



Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:44 am, Frederic Crozat wrote:
  It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between 12mdk
  and 13mdk that forces the use of AA fonts, which will fail if the Render
  extension is not present.  There's a link in a previous message that
  points to a version of libqt3 without that patch and it works fine.

 Render is NOT needed for doing AA with Xft2.. This was only needed when
 using Xft1..

Then why do QT apps crash when AA is compiled in?  Can't find render and 
crash.  Again, is this a bug in QT3 and should it be reported upstream?
-- 
Greg



Re: [Cooker] Bla, bla, but no 9.1 date

2003-03-19 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
May be, may be.

 I'm not from Mandrake team but I pretty sure : March 2003 :-)

-- 
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Departamento de Biología Vegetal
Universidad de Murcia
E-30100 Murcia
España (Spain)



Re: [Cooker] When the isos will be avalaible?

2003-03-19 Thread Benoit des Ligneris
Hello,

 El Miércoles, 19 de Marzo de 2003 15:04, Jan Ciger escribió:
   Now I am runing 9.0, but I need 9.1 to make good looking pf files using
   LaTeX files (the pdf fonts looks ugly when I compile a file, but under
   9.1 there were very good!).
 
  You can do the same in 9.0. Just add \usepackage{times} into the preamble
  of you document and that should allow nice PDFs.

Use 
dvips -Ppdf your_dvi_file.dvi

when producing the ps and then ps2pdf will do an excellent job for
converting your latex generated postscript file.

Ben

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Re: [Cooker] Bla, bla, but no 9.1 date

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:07 am, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
 Till said me that the cooker is now uptodate (yesterday I downloaded cooker
 but some script were still old and the iso creation gave me lot of errors),
 so tomorrow morning I will update my cooker miror and create the isos.

Why even create iso's, just use hd.img.

-- 
Greg



[Cooker] New features

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
How about a unified boot iso like SuSE does, instead of maintaining seperate 
hd, network, etc. floppy images. This would allow me to burn one cd to do all 
installs from, be it network, hd or cd.  Also, because it removes the size 
contraint of the floppy image, it  would allow te use of XFS and perhaps 
other obscure modules on hd and network installs.
-- 
Greg



Re: [Cooker] Some Ideas for the future

2003-03-19 Thread Buchan Milne
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Chad wrote:

Le Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 10:39, Chad a crit :

- resume on partial downloads as the default behavior

Isn't allready done ?


 Does it first I've heard of it. If I run urpmi with the noclean option
and
 interupt it part way through downloading a pacakge it doesn't seem to
resume
 the file it was downloading were it left off it starts on that file again
 doesn't it?


Maybe it works with rsync sources?


- rsync support (if it isn't already present)

http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon, select cooker version, search url begining
by rsync://, oh ! I debug rsync support myself.


 Not sure but to be really usefull doesn't rsync support require a
local copy
 of the package to update (compare to the netone and d/l the difs)?
Otherwise
 I see no difference between it and ftp.


It will always help with hdlists ...

And if Francois looks at --repackage, maybe it would be possible to
rebuild a package from the installed one first, rename it to the one
being downloaded, and then upagrading the new one after rysncing?

Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] 9.2 wishlist: urpmi --optimise

2003-03-19 Thread Buchan Milne
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w9ya wrote:
 Perhaps Mandrake can/would compile the whole thing (distro) -mcpu i686
- -02
 instead of -march ???. That way you can ...have your cake and eat it
too.

 Also, for those that just have to have more than what that offers
(which is
 little as it turns out , according to the gcc folks), then have the build
 process passed a variable for compilation from a rc file in etc, which
 itself can be changed easily enough. Many distros are doing this now.


Or you can just make your own ~/.rpmmacros file and do what you like, or
use a target option passed to rpm.

The problem isn't rebuilding a package. The problem is rebuilding many
packages, and only the ones required, with fetching them remotely if
necessary (which the rpm rebuilder doesn't do).

Buchan

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[Cooker] [Bug 2023] [acpi] ACPI not working on SonyVaio FX501 laptop

2003-03-19 Thread rob
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2023





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I have a similar problem with the stock kernel on my Compaq 725CA, due to the
loose ACPI standards and how Compaq decided to implememt them.

The two biggest are the Local APIC support on uniprocessors and Support for
PCI hotplug (EXPERIMENTAL) config options.

The following kernel config options work for me:

# Processor type and features
* Processor family: from 'i586' to 'athlon/duron/k7'
* AMD mobile Athlon/Duron Powernow!: from 'm' to 'y'
* Local APIC support on uniprocessors: from 'y' to 'n'

# General setup
* Advanced power management BIOS support: from 'm' to 'n'

* PCI hotplug support
  o Support for PCI hotplug (EXPERIMENTAL): from 'm' to 'n'

* ACPI support
  o AC adapter: from 'm' to 'y'
  o Battery: from 'm' to 'y'
  o Button: from 'm' to 'y'
  o Fan: from 'm' to 'y'
  o Processor: from 'm' to 'y'
  o Thermal Zone: from 'm' to 'y'
  o Toshiba laptop extras: from 'm' to 'n'




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With the standard kernel the ACPI is not working on my SonyVaio PCG-FX501 
laptop.
My lilo.conf contain the option apci=on apm=off pci=biosirq.
I tried also with only the standard option acpi=on but with the same results.
The problems are:
The fan cooler is always on, no battery status on KDE 3.1

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