[Cooker] Re: Fwd: Re: Supermount / Zip100 bug

["Andrey Borzenkov"]

-Original Message-

> 
> > "andrey" == Andrey Borzenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Hi
> 
> andrey> As I do not have hardware nor sufficient knowledge about it I
> andrey> hardly can fix it. It appears ide-floppy does not implement
> andrey> media change detection at all - the only thing it does is fake
> andrey> media change on driver ->open. It means supermount never
> andrey> detects any disk change of course.
> 
> Ide-floppy is quite bad, it is easier (for some things) to use
> ide-scsi for zips.  The things that I remembered were that:
> - ide-floppy just locks the drive on open, no way to change that.

is it really the case even with my patches? I added the same logic as in other
drivers for managing drive locked state and so far nobody complained.

> - ide-scsi had other problems that I forgot :(
> 

my concern is mostly 2.6 as in 2.4 you can use ide-scsi; but 2.6 ide-scsi was
broken last time I checked.

> Will take a look.
> 

if you have a patch drop me a note; I'd like to put it (or link to it) on
supermount page, the problem appears to be fairly common.

-andrey

[Cooker] [Bug 6231] [GConf] gnucash crashes with new gconf

[[le.berred]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6231





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They work for me too. Thanks.

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After updating to

GConf-1.0.9-12mdk.i586
GConf2-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586
libGConf1-1.0.9-12mdk.i586
libGConf2_4-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586
libGConf2_4-devel-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586

gnucash no longer starts, it complains that gtkhtml cannot connect to gconfd.
One maybe has to open a report to trigger this? My gnucash opens some reports
upon start.

After downgrading to previous (9.2) GConf stuff and relogin, gnucash works again.

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

[dhenry . f]

Hello,

I read that there is a new feature in the kernel2.6 called futexes.
It's seems to allow fast context switching... 
I hope it helps you. (I really don't know)

Fabrice.

Selon Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Frederic Conrotte wrote:
> > Since I switched to Linux with MDK8.2, I've always noticed the XFS
> > daemon (X Font Server) and the DM daemon (Display Manager) are not
> > started among the first services to be started. DM need XFS started
> > before it can be launched.
> >
> > DM is the services that launch KDE and therefore the sooner it is
> > started the sooner you will get KDE up.
> >
> > For example, for MDK9.2, I moved XFS and DM to S01xfs and S02dm in
> > /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/:
> >
> >  S01xfs
> >  S02dm
> >  S03iptables
> >  S09network
> 
> Yes but dm needs networking at the least. This solution may work for
> you but mandrake has to have sane defaults for everyone. Which is the
> general problem with suggestions. Most people only take their own
> preferences and situation in account.
> 
> 
> 
> # Han
> -- 
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
> 
> 

[Cooker] who likes rpms and java?

[Austin]

So java-based binaries are kinda new to linux... maybe you can help me
with this one.  It's written in java, but compiles with gcj by default,
which is VERY cool.  I wish all java apps were like that.  But RPM
calculates the dependencies very wrong.

Download the SRPM here:
http://groundstate.ca/radiocap-0.1b-1mdk.src.rpm

then build it (works fine), then try to install the RPM.  RPM asks for
the wrong dependencies.  Is this specific to this package, or does RPM
need to be fixed to properly handle java packages?

Thanks for your help, whoever you are...

Austin
-- 
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Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate
   Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto
MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca

[Cooker] [Bug 6254] [icewm-light] New: Multibyte character cannot be displayed in icewm menu

[[wtzhu]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6254

   Summary: Multibyte character cannot be displayed in icewm menu
   Product: icewm-light
   Version: 1.2.9-2mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: i18n
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


My OS: Mandrake Linux 9.2 (FiveStar) on an i586 PC
icewm version: icewm-1.2.13-0.3.1mdk.i586, icewm-light-1.2.13-0.3.1mdk.i586
locale: zh_CN

Chinese characters cannot be displayed in icewm starting menu as well as right
click pop-up menu. The problem may be due to font loading. I've tried to
"startx" manually and step by step from the text console:
# X & (Enter. Everything is OK.)
# export DISPLAY=0:0 (Enter. Everything is OK.)
# /usr/X11R6/bin/icewm-session (Enter. Something wrong but not fatal.)
While loading icewm, it gives lots of messages as the following:
...
IceWM: Warning: Could not load font "-*--16-*".
IceWM: Warning: Could not load font "-*--16-*".
IceWM: Warning: Could not load font "-*--16-*".
IceWM: Warning: Could not load font "-*--16-*".
IceWM: Warning: Could not load font "-*--16-*".
IceWM: Warning: Could not load font "-*--16-*".
...

RPMS shipped in Mandrake Linux 9.0 (icewm-1.2.0-5mdk, icewm-light-1.2.0-5mdk)
work well in FiveStar. RPMS shipped in Mandrake Linux 9.1 (icewm-1.2.6-1mdk,
icewm-light-1.2.6-1mdk) may also work but modifications to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/preferences are needed.

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[Cooker] Re: Kernel and Samba

[Norman Zhang]

Hi Buchan,

>>> My Samba box stalls after some usage, mapped drives disappear and
>>> users can't write or read from drives. The stalls happen randomly.
>>> I'm running 2.4.19-16mdksmp and Samba 2.2.7a-9.2mdk. May I ask is
>>> this a kernel bug or Samba bug? Does anyone know a fix for it? I
>>> checked the memory from BIOS, they didn't report any errors.
>>
>> BIOS memory check is (mostly) useless. Use memtest86 or similar.
>
> Sure I will test it with memtest86 and report back. I have been
> running LM9.0 with Samba on this box for 3/4 year now. The problem
> only arose in the last 2 months by random. I swapped brand new
> Crucial Micron ECC DDR266 SDRAM, but the problem still presists. BTW,
> the BIOS memory check is quite extensive (Intel claims to scan it
> block by block). It takes about 1 to 2 minutes for it to scan the
> memory. Not sure how this compares to memtest86. I guess I will wait
> after hours before I can run a memtest86.

I ran memtest and found no error. Do you have other suggestions that I can
further troubleshoot this? There are no cards plugged to the system. The
system just runs software RAID. Thus it seems to be either XFS, md or samba
bug. Maybe I could try upgrading samba to 2.2.8a-2mdk from your web server.
Are there potential gotchas that I should watch out for?

>>> /var/log/kernel/warnings
>>> 
>>> Oct 27 09:19:12 smbserver kernel: xfs_force_shutdown(md(9,5),0x8)
>>> called from line 1039 of file xfs_trans.c.  Return address =
>>> 0xe08ae312
>>> Oct 27 09:19:12 smbserver kernel: Corruption of in-memory data
>>> detected. Shutting down filesystem: md(9,5)
>>> Oct 27 09:19:12 smbserver kernel: Please umount the filesystem, and
>>> rectify the problem(s)
>>
>> This seems to point quite strongly to either hardware (most likely
>> memory) or kernel (xfs driver or md driver, it seems you are running
>> software raid?) If the kernel has problems with a filesystem, there's
>> nothing much samba can do about it ...
>
> I'm using software RAID. Do you know if there are recent updates to
> the Mandrake kernel that may fix bugs in XFS and md drivers? Funny
> thing is that only Samba dies. SSH and others still work.
>
>>> /var/log/kernel/errors
>>> --
>>> Oct 27 10:36:44 smbserver kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2:
>>> assuming transparent
>>> Oct 27 10:36:44 smbserver kernel: PCI: Unable to handle 64-bit
>>> address space for
>>> Oct 27 10:36:44 smbserver kernel: PCI: Unable to handle 64-bit
>>> address space for
>>> Oct 27 10:36:44 smbserver kernel: Unknown bridge resource 2:
>>> assuming transparent
>>> Oct 27 10:36:44 smbserver kernel: PCI: Device 00:1f.1 not available
>>> because of resource collisions
>>
>> You need to give some more information on the hardware on this
>> machine, but something does not look right ... what's in
>> /proc/interrupts ?
>
> I'm using Intel SE7500WV2S Server Board. BIOS Version: 2.01 Build
> 0483. My /proc/interrupts are as follows. I have seen the boot screen
> complaint about resources collision, but couldn't find out the cause.
> I've disabled all unecessary ports in the BIOS (e.g., USB).
>
>CPU0CPU1CPU2CPU3
>   0:1385866   0   0   0  IO-APIC-edge  timer
>   1:  7   0   0   0  IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
>   2:  0   0   0   0XT-PIC  cascade
>   8:  1   0   0   0  IO-APIC-edge  rtc
>  12:197   0   0   0  IO-APIC-edge  PS/2 Mouse
>  15:  5   0   0   0  IO-APIC-edge  ide1
>  30: 677193   0   0   0 IO-APIC-level  eth1
>  31: 923339   0   0   0 IO-APIC-level  eth0
>  49:  38985   0   0   0 IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
>  50: 16   0   0   0 IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx
> NMI:  0   0   0   0
> LOC:1385678 1385677 1385676 1385676
> ERR:  0
> MIS:  0

Regards,
Norman

[Cooker] I'm totally lost, would somebody PLEASE explain this to me ?

[Galileo]

A strange thought came to me an hour ago.
While I was trying to build updated isos i found in misc/doc/download
a line "kernel-source exclude". What ? this can't be true. I search
trough rpms, rpms2 and rpms3 and it isn't there.
I check on fr2.rpmfind.net and its there. Hm strange, lets see what
else is missing.
I copy all the files from my rpms dirs to one directory and compare
contents of that dir to fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/
What the f*** ?
A LOOT of differences. It seems that I'm missing a lot of packages.
My first thought was that these missing packages were transferred to
contrib. Lets check no not there. Wait what's that.
I have gcc-cpp_f-0.0.1-1mdk.noarch.rpm but on remote ftp there isn't
one.
I start to look at the differences and I notice a couple of odd things
libsane-hpoj1-0.90-9mdk.i586.rpm that i have is newer that on mirror
(on mirror libsane-hpoj1-0.90-8mdk),
mandrake_doc-en-9.2-0.9mdk.noarch.rpm that I have is older than on the
mirror (mirror mandrake_doc-en-9.2-1mdk.noarch.rpm )
This has to me mirrors fault? I check with mandrakeclub mirror and
its the same thing.
What happened ???
I have been told recently not to bitch/complain but to be a little
more diplomatic when posting here.
So here it is, I'm not bitching but asking nicely.
I can understand that some packages like powermanga which isn't
important (although very nice game) couldn't be fitted on the first 3
cds but why wasn't it transferred to contrib.
And what's with the different versions ? I can understand that due to
the last minute changes a newer package can be included in the
download edition, but on mirrors a few packets are newer then in
download !?
So what should I do now ? I can download the missing packages from
mirror but what shall I do with the packages which have different
versions ?
So responsible people at Mandrakesoft: Will somebody please give me a
logical explanation for this ? I'm totally lost.
I'm about to go totally bazerk. All I can think now is that somebody
made a terrible mistake.
It's 1:20 AM here and I will be working for at least an hour or so.
So to all of the people who are still awake (or in a different time
zone) please give me something to grab on to or diplomacy will go to
hell and ranting,bitching,yelling whatever will come back.

Re: [Cooker] Fwd: [plug] Mandrake Bug announce warning rant ahead

[Thomas Backlund]

Greg Meyer kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 29 Lokakuu 2003 
02:19):
> On Tuesday 28 October 2003 06:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Scott's issue is that he _is_ a fully subscribed Club member and is on
> > > the appropriate announce lists
> >
> > MandrakeClub was the place this issue was first brought to light (in the
> > MandrakeClub forum), about 19 October. I reported it on the maintainers
> > list when I saw two different reports. IIRC that was 20 Oct.
>
> I have to agree here.  If he missed it, he didn't look very hard.  It was
> on the errata page, it was all over the Club forums, there were multiple
> threads on newbie, expert and cooker lists, there are pages on both twiki's
> dedicated to the trouble.  Then there are all the non-Mandrake places it
> was mentioned, osnews, Mandrakeusers.org, slashdot, people were even
> talking about it on alt.os.linux.mandrake.
>
> I don't understand how he could expect an official announcement from
> MandrakeSoft before they knew definitively what was going on.  The errata
> page is a must read before installing any version for the first time and
> he's got to take responsibility himself for not looking for problems.

and October 24 there was a official announcement posted on:

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fnews.php3

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Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Francisco Alcaraz]

>
> Well,
> according to:
> http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3
>
> 
> A new kernel (2.4.22-21mdk) has been released that fixes
> this problem in the kernel, although the CD-ROM devices
> are still not up to specification. New CDs and ISOs will
> be available shortly to correct these problems; they will
> come with the new kernel.
> 
>
> so there will be new official ISO:s...

Yes I hope this, but not idea about when; I have downloaded 
the new kernel (not problematic lg drivers, but I suppose 
it is bugless tan the old one). Fortunately the source is 
also avalaible and I could compile the nvidia drivers.

Regards

-- 
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Murcia, España (Spain)

Re: [Cooker] Fwd: [plug] Mandrake Bug announce warning rant ahead

[Greg Meyer]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 06:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Scott's issue is that he _is_ a fully subscribed Club member and is on
> > the appropriate announce lists
>
> MandrakeClub was the place this issue was first brought to light (in the
> MandrakeClub forum), about 19 October. I reported it on the maintainers
> list when I saw two different reports. IIRC that was 20 Oct.

I have to agree here.  If he missed it, he didn't look very hard.  It was on 
the errata page, it was all over the Club forums, there were multiple threads 
on newbie, expert and cooker lists, there are pages on both twiki's dedicated 
to the trouble.  Then there are all the non-Mandrake places it was mentioned, 
osnews, Mandrakeusers.org, slashdot, people were even talking about it on 
alt.os.linux.mandrake.

I don't understand how he could expect an official announcement from 
MandrakeSoft before they knew definitively what was going on.  The errata 
page is a must read before installing any version for the first time and he's 
got to take responsibility himself for not looking for problems.
-- 
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a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Thomas Backlund]

Francisco Alcaraz kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 29 Lokakuu 
2003 01:43):
> Sorry, I thought you were a member of Mandrake. Anyway if
> the isos will be avalaible in a server to download I would
> like to know their url, because I think the new official
> isos aren't still prepared.
>
> Thanks for offer your work to us, best regards
>
Well,
according to:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/lgerrata.php3


A new kernel (2.4.22-21mdk) has been released that fixes this problem in the 
kernel, although the CD-ROM devices are still not up to specification. New 
CDs and ISOs will be available shortly to correct these problems; they will 
come with the new kernel.


so there will be new official ISO:s...

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Thomas

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Francisco Alcaraz]

Sorry, I thought you were a member of Mandrake. Anyway if 
the isos will be avalaible in a server to download I would 
like to know their url, because I think the new official 
isos aren't still prepared.

Thanks for offer your work to us, best regards

El Martes, 28 de Octubre de 2003 21:51, Emmanuel Moll 
escribió:
> Unfortunately I do not work for Mandrake and have no
> associations with them at all. I am just creating those
> CDs for myself and myself only. I will be releasing to
> you guys through here because some people have shown
> interest. I'll let u all know what has been updated but
> cannot guarantee that they will work (they work on my
> laptop, which is a start).
>
> Manu
>
> Francisco Alcaraz wrote:
> >They will be released as the previous isos, for
> > MandrakeClub members and via Bitorrent?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Francisco Alcaraz
> >Murcia (Spain)
> >
> >El Martes, 28 de Octubre de 2003 16:28, Emmanuel Moll
> >
> >escribió:
> >>Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages
> >>from the update site. Have also updated Mozilla to
> >>version 1.5, included Thunderbird and Firebird and
> >>updated k3b to 0.10. I'll bittorrent the isos tomorrow
> >>and wil release them tomorrow.
> >>
> >>Manu

-- 
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Murcia, España (Spain)

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

[Han Boetes]

Frederic Conrotte wrote:
> Since I switched to Linux with MDK8.2, I've always noticed the XFS
> daemon (X Font Server) and the DM daemon (Display Manager) are not
> started among the first services to be started. DM need XFS started
> before it can be launched.
>
> DM is the services that launch KDE and therefore the sooner it is
> started the sooner you will get KDE up.
>
> For example, for MDK9.2, I moved XFS and DM to S01xfs and S02dm in
> /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/:
>
>  S01xfs
>  S02dm
>  S03iptables
>  S09network

Yes but dm needs networking at the least. This solution may work for
you but mandrake has to have sane defaults for everyone. Which is the
general problem with suggestions. Most people only take their own
preferences and situation in account.



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[Cooker] [Bug 6252] [iptables] ip MASQUERADING does not work with Mdk 9.2 beta RC2

[[bcostal]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6252





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No error from iptables when setting up the POSTROUTING rule. I'd be glad to 
try 21mdk with Mandrake's iptables but I'm not able to download it from 
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/cooker/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.html
 
I'm told the file doesn't exist. How can I get it another way?  

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it to work by swapping 2.4.22-6mdk source with 2.4.22 from 
http://www.kernel.org and iptables with iptables-1.2.8 from 
http://netfilter.org/. Compiling Netfilter sites's iptables-1.2.8 with 
2.4.22-6mdk does not resolve the problem.

Re: [Cooker] Fwd: [plug] Mandrake Bug announce warning rant ahead

[bgmilne]

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:45, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
>> Perhaps, at least in the current economic environment, it
>> would be unwise to commit further, limited resources in the
>> uncompensated service of those who merely "just don't want to pay for
>> software and (...) don't want to steal it either."
>
> I understand your point, but that's not Scott's issue.
>
> Scott's issue is that he _is_ a fully subscribed Club member and is on
> the appropriate announce lists

MandrakeClub was the place this issue was first brought to light (in the
MandrakeClub forum), about 19 October. I reported it on the maintainers
list when I saw two different reports. IIRC that was 20 Oct.

Since the only people who officially have access to the ISOs up to now are
in MandrakeClub, this is the logical place to look.

I also don't think it would have been responsible for the immediate action
to be a story on MandrakeClub's front page without at least some
verification/investigation, and that occured on Oct 20 and 21 on the
maintainers list, whereafter it moved to cooker.

3 days after the 2nd report on MandrakeClub (IIRC) there was a note on the
errata page (which really should be the place *everyone* looks before
installing - and BTW we actually discussed that on maintainers before the
LG issue and hopefully in future users will be urged to read the errata by
the splash screen or similar). Just over a week after the 2nd report on
MandrakeClub and we have kernels and full advisories out.

I believe a lot of the threads about the LG drives were CC'ed to the
expert list?

I really don't think it could have been handled any better with current
resources.

> but still found out about LG's faux pas
> first from other sources.

Yes, I do find it strange LG didn't notify their customers who all paid
hard cash for their hardware of this vulnerability in their hardware
earlier, and urge them to do a firmware update. I wonder how long it will
before (now that this vulnerability is more public) until there is a
Windows worm which sends FLUSH_CACHE to LG cd-rom drives ...

Regards,
Buchan

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

[Vedran Ljubovic]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > don't even own a network card. Therefore I
> probably
> > don't need sshd at all.
> 
> Isn't xinetd startup of ssh disabled by default, in
> favour of starting as
> a daemon?

Hm you're right. It seems that xinetd is used for fam.

> > - While I'm at it, I also don't need netfs,
> nfslock
> > (thus portmap)
> 
> If you want to use NFS you need them all. If you
> don't use NFS, 'urpme
> nfs-utils-client' or whatever it is. AFAIK you need
> portmap for fam to
> work?

Ok, I'll remove nfs. No use for it over dialup. Btw do
you think that it would cause too much trouble if nfs
is not enabled by default, atleast for us dialup
users?

> > or tmdns. Isn't it possible to disable
> > these services if no NIC is detected during
> > installation? Also since this is a desktop pc i
> don't
> > need apmd.
> 
> And you don't want to be able to use the sleep/wake
> buttons on your
> keyboard ;-).

I don't have them ;)

On one keyboard i had the misfortune to work with, i
wanted to pry them out cause i kept hitting shutdown
instead of page down. But you're right, there are uses
for apmd on desktop. Then the description needs to
state it more clearly, cause many would disable it.

> The
> > "loading session" part in kde can be accellerated
> by
> > disabling KOrganizer (if someone wants to use it,
> > he/she can find it in the menus)
> 
> I don't think korganiser has a huge impact, and it's
> point is to remind
> you, not to tell you the things you want to be
> reminded of when you
> remember to run it, and it can easily be disabled.

Well it's the only thing in the session? It has
nothing to remind me of until i enter some tasks. And
when i do it will automatically add itself to systray,
so when i log off the session is saved and next time i
boot it will be brought up. 

> Yay, then Mandrake samba print servers will now only
> be usable 2 minutes
> after having fully booted ... since we HUP samba a
> minute after starting
> it to give CUPS time to pick up all the printers (I
> haven't removed this
> since samba-2.2.8a can't update the printers
> automatically as it is
> supposed to - it worked in 2.2.7a though ...).


obviuosly boot needs to be tweaked considering the
planned use for the machine and other features (such
as having sleep button on your keyboard ;)
Which is exactly what I'm doing here. I'm tweaking my
home machine and so i asked for some advice.
 
> BTW, Windows (even Windows 2000) shuts down very
> quickly (ie usually < 5
> seconds on my laptop), and I think the margin is
> greater on shutdown ...

I guess one can wait 15-20 sec for anything, but not
much more.

Thanks for your feedback! I appreciate it.

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[Cooker] [Bug 6056] [urpmi] urpmi.update and local mirror for updates (mdk 9.1)

[[jpmasius]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6056





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 23:48 ---
Same problem seen in 9.2 Powerpack downloaded by Mandrakeclub silver members.

Material QDI 10T-A, Pentium III 733 Mhz Fsb 133, 396 MB ram.
 

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"urpmi.update --update" takes a lot of time to work (cca. 5-10 minutes) if URMP
has no proxy settings (file /etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg is empty), but there is
environment 'http_proxy' variable set (file /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh has proxy
definition).
That kind of configuration is needed because we have firewall, but Mdk updates
mirror location is on the local network (local mirror ftp server for Mandrake
updates).

I think that the problem is in calling 'culr' command, if there is no proxy
settings in file '/etc/urpmi/proxy.cfg'. Urmpi.update calls curl as follows:

/usr/bin/curl 0-s -I ftp://nanos/linux/distr/Mandrake/updates/9.1/base/hd

I think that there is invalid parameter '0-s', which maybe? it should be '-0
-s', but I can not see the whole command line with parameters of the running
process to see the whole picture.
In this situation probably curl uses parameter '0-s' as an URL, which must be
found, but '0-s' URL doesn't exist.

There is no problem to make 'urpmi.update', if URPMI update source resides on
the internet (e.g. ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/...). In this situation URPM http
proxy must be set because of the firewall.

Maybe there is a bug in vendor perl module 'urpm.pm'?

Re: [Cooker] OT: My $firewall is bigger than yours!

[Leon Brooks]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:43, Buchan Milne wrote:
> We run our production firewall (with about 60 machines behind it, a
> bit of a DMZ etc) on a P133/32MB.

Huh, well! (-:

_My_ firewall is exactly twice as big as yours! (-:

P2-266, 64MB, 6GB.

Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Fwd: [plug] Mandrake Bug announce warning rant ahead

[Leon Brooks]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:45, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
> Perhaps, at least in the current economic environment, it
> would be unwise to commit further, limited resources in the
> uncompensated service of those who merely "just don't want to pay for
> software and (...) don't want to steal it either."

I understand your point, but that's not Scott's issue.

Scott's issue is that he _is_ a fully subscribed Club member and is on 
the appropriate announce lists but still found out about LG's faux pas 
first from other sources.

Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] [9.2] The Windows widow shows wrongly 9.1 !

[Leon Brooks]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:27, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> I'm contributing also to translation in French and i found many tiny
> bugs ... not very important in reality, but annoying, like
> milsleading translations in urpmi manual page, ...

This is good, not because they were there, but because they are no 
longer.

Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] ADSL + postfix default config = open relay?

[Leon Brooks]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:34, Florin wrote:
> This is FALSE. The default postfix configuration is binded to
> localhost.

He's obviously bound postfix to "all local interfaces" instead, and the 
nature of the DSL connection is such that "the entire ISP" (probably a 
single Class C within the ISP's collection of addresses) is considered 
"local".

In Australia, it is normal for the link to the ISP to be P-t-P, so this 
would not happen, but perhaps an extra note in main.cf warning of this 
possibility is apropos? I would be more inclined to ask Wietse to do 
this than to make it a Mandrake-specific patch.

Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

[Frederic Conrotte]

Just my 2 cents...

since I switched to Linux with MDK8.2,
I've always noticed the XFS daemon (X Font Server)
and the DM daemon (Display Manager) are not started among
the first services to be started.
DM need XFS started before it can be launched.

DM is the services that launch KDE and therefore
the sooner it is started the sooner you will get KDE up.

For example, for MDK9.2,
I moved XFS and DM to S01xfs and S02dm in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rc5.d]$ ll
total 4
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   20 oct 21 01:40 K15postgresql ->
../init.d/postgresql*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 oct 21 01:40 K55routed ->
../init.d/routed*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 oct 21 01:32 S01xfs ->
../init.d/xfs*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 oct 21 01:31 S02dm ->
../init.d/dm*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   18 oct 21 01:34 S03iptables ->
../init.d/iptables*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:42 S09network ->
../init.d/network*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   18 oct 21 01:46 S11internet ->
../init.d/internet*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:42 S11portmap ->
../init.d/portmap*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 oct 21 01:42 S12syslog ->
../init.d/syslog*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:31 S13partmon ->
../init.d/partmon*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 oct 21 01:34 S14nfslock ->
../init.d/nfslock*
-rwxr--r--1 root root  721 oct 21 19:02 S15fw*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   14 oct 21 01:31 S17alsa ->
../init.d/alsa*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   15 oct 21 01:42 S18sound ->
../init.d/sound*
.
.
.
.

it saves me 5 seconds of total boot time

maybe it should be setup like that for MDK10.0 ?

regards,
effco




Le mar 28/10/2003 à 21:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> 
> > - Sysv is already mostly parallelized. It takes 26
> > seconds which is better than I expected. Actually, as
> > I understand, on this single-cpu machine the overhead
> > of context switching is so high that xinetd and cups
> > would probably start faster if they were not
> > parallelized with X.
> > - Idea: sshd is the only service that uses xinetd.
> > Standalone sshd would probably boot faster? This
> > computer connects to the Internet using a modem, I
> > don't even own a network card. Therefore I probably
> > don't need sshd at all.
> 
> Isn't xinetd startup of ssh disabled by default, in favour of starting as
> a daemon?
> 
> > - While I'm at it, I also don't need netfs, nfslock
> > (thus portmap)
> 
> If you want to use NFS you need them all. If you don't use NFS, 'urpme
> nfs-utils-client' or whatever it is. AFAIK you need portmap for fam to
> work?
> 
> > or tmdns. Isn't it possible to disable
> > these services if no NIC is detected during
> > installation? Also since this is a desktop pc i don't
> > need apmd.
> 
> And you don't want to be able to use the sleep/wake buttons on your
> keyboard ;-).
> 
> > Can't this also be detected?
> > - I just can't understand why kde takes so long to
> > start!??!? Unfortunately, gnome isn't much better. The
> > "loading session" part in kde can be accellerated by
> > disabling KOrganizer (if someone wants to use it,
> > he/she can find it in the menus)
> 
> I don't think korganiser has a huge impact, and it's point is to remind
> you, not to tell you the things you want to be reminded of when you
> remember to run it, and it can easily be disabled.
> 
> > - Idea: postpone cups and scannerdrake startup for 60
> > seconds to give desktop a chance to start and avoid
> > unnecessary context switching.
> 
> Yay, then Mandrake samba print servers will now only be usable 2 minutes
> after having fully booted ... since we HUP samba a minute after starting
> it to give CUPS time to pick up all the printers (I haven't removed this
> since samba-2.2.8a can't update the printers automatically as it is
> supposed to - it worked in 2.2.7a though ...).
> 
> > It's very unlikely that
> > someone would like to print or scan something in the
> > first 60 seconds?
> 
> Maybe on a desktop, and I guess it's not too bad on a server unless
> there's an MCSE driving it ...
> 
> > The same trick could be used for
> > crond and atd I believe.
> >
> > What do you think? Should I apply these optimizations
> > to my Pc? will anything burn up (except the lg cd-rom)
> > ;)
> 
> I wonder if the 23s to start KDE can be reduced significantly by pre-linking?
> 
> BTW, Windows (even Windows 2000) shuts down very quickly (ie usually < 5
> seconds on my laptop), and I think the margin is greater on shutdown ...
> 
> Regards,
> Buchan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Emmanuel Moll]

Unfortunately I do not work for Mandrake and have no associations with 
them at all. I am just creating those CDs for myself and myself only. I 
will be releasing to you guys through here because some people have 
shown interest. I'll let u all know what has been updated but cannot 
guarantee that they will work (they work on my laptop, which is a start).

Manu

Francisco Alcaraz wrote:

They will be released as the previous isos, for MandrakeClub 
members and via Bitorrent?

Regards

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)
El Martes, 28 de Octubre de 2003 16:28, Emmanuel Moll 
escribió:
 

Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages
from the update site. Have also updated Mozilla to
version 1.5, included Thunderbird and Firebird and
updated k3b to 0.10. I'll bittorrent the isos tomorrow
and wil release them tomorrow.
Manu
   

 

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

[bgmilne]

> Hi,
>

> - Sysv is already mostly parallelized. It takes 26
> seconds which is better than I expected. Actually, as
> I understand, on this single-cpu machine the overhead
> of context switching is so high that xinetd and cups
> would probably start faster if they were not
> parallelized with X.
> - Idea: sshd is the only service that uses xinetd.
> Standalone sshd would probably boot faster? This
> computer connects to the Internet using a modem, I
> don't even own a network card. Therefore I probably
> don't need sshd at all.

Isn't xinetd startup of ssh disabled by default, in favour of starting as
a daemon?

> - While I'm at it, I also don't need netfs, nfslock
> (thus portmap)

If you want to use NFS you need them all. If you don't use NFS, 'urpme
nfs-utils-client' or whatever it is. AFAIK you need portmap for fam to
work?

> or tmdns. Isn't it possible to disable
> these services if no NIC is detected during
> installation? Also since this is a desktop pc i don't
> need apmd.

And you don't want to be able to use the sleep/wake buttons on your
keyboard ;-).

> Can't this also be detected?
> - I just can't understand why kde takes so long to
> start!??!? Unfortunately, gnome isn't much better. The
> "loading session" part in kde can be accellerated by
> disabling KOrganizer (if someone wants to use it,
> he/she can find it in the menus)

I don't think korganiser has a huge impact, and it's point is to remind
you, not to tell you the things you want to be reminded of when you
remember to run it, and it can easily be disabled.

> - Idea: postpone cups and scannerdrake startup for 60
> seconds to give desktop a chance to start and avoid
> unnecessary context switching.

Yay, then Mandrake samba print servers will now only be usable 2 minutes
after having fully booted ... since we HUP samba a minute after starting
it to give CUPS time to pick up all the printers (I haven't removed this
since samba-2.2.8a can't update the printers automatically as it is
supposed to - it worked in 2.2.7a though ...).

> It's very unlikely that
> someone would like to print or scan something in the
> first 60 seconds?

Maybe on a desktop, and I guess it's not too bad on a server unless
there's an MCSE driving it ...

> The same trick could be used for
> crond and atd I believe.
>
> What do you think? Should I apply these optimizations
> to my Pc? will anything burn up (except the lg cd-rom)
> ;)

I wonder if the 23s to start KDE can be reduced significantly by pre-linking?

BTW, Windows (even Windows 2000) shuts down very quickly (ie usually < 5
seconds on my laptop), and I think the margin is greater on shutdown ...

Regards,
Buchan

[Cooker] [Bug 6116] [galaxy-kde] Scrollbars are invisible in Mandrakegalaxy theme

[[seguso.forever]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6116





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 21:30 ---
Maybe I was not clear. My sight is pretty good and I am in 1024x768. 

1) I have no problem locating the _boundary_ between the scrollbar and the
background. 

2) WITH A BIT OF EFFORT, I can also decide which is the scrollbar and which is
the background. 

The problem is that I have to put an effort into it (because the background is
like the scrollbar, only with an inverted gradient and a _bit_ darker).
Instead, it should be possible to do that instintively. 
I cannot _instinctively_ tell if the scrollbar is the one above or the one
below. It just doesn't leap to the eye. So I have to _focus_ your attention on
the scrollbar _consciously_, _scan_ the whole length, and only then  you can
decide. 

I believe Ofb.biz, or some other big site, remarked the same problem in its review. 

I know I can change the kde widget style, but Mandrake does not allow to change
the gtk1 and gtk2 style. Otherwise I would not have bothered you.

It would be very easy for you to fix that problem: just darken the background
and maybe remove the gradient in the background.



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in the galaxy theme, could you please make the scrollbars more visible? I have trouble 
locating them from the foreground: it is grey on grey! :-)

Re: [Cooker] ldap + samba3 + pam_mount

[bgmilne]

> Hello there,
>
> I'm trying to install a long awaited (by myself, because I only have 3
> boxes)  full ldap based authentification, with smb as network filesystem
> for both  Linux and Windows worstation (I want to throw away nfs and
> anyway I have to  use samba for my windows box, stupid ?).

Be aware that NFS is currently the best generic (ie exlucing AFS and Coda)
unix-to-unix file sharing system available, and NFSv4 should probably
provide for the only reasons you would want to use smb over NFS.

At present it is not possible to run GNOME or KDE on a SMB/CIFS-mounted
home directory, even with a samba server running on a unix machine with
unix extensions available (or at least it was last time I tested which was
just before cifs went into the Mandrake kernel).

> The ldap based authentification and samba-ldap are fine working. Last
> step is  therefore using pam_mount for home directory (+ few other
> shares).

Are you using group mapping? If so, is it working (I have problems using
the Windows User Manager for Domains under certain circumstances, but I
have a bug open on it ...).

>
> Here is what I faced, could you please tell me if I'm wrong 
>
> pam_mount is able to pass password to the stack, but not to keep it back
> from  the stack -> pam_mount must be stacked first in the auth section.

No, this is not necessary.

> I don't know why, but if I stack pam_mount after pam_ldap in the session
>  section, mount operation will abort with the following message :
>
>   pam_mount: unable to open /var/run/pam_mount/foo
>   pam_mount: received order to close things
> (...)
>   su: unbind.c:40: ldap_unbind_ext: Assertion `(
> (ld)->ld_options.ldo_valid ==0x2 )' failed.
> (...)

Maybe you need the "use_first_pass" option in your pam_mount line if it's
after a real authenticating module.

> If I toggle pam_ldap & pam_mount, things are ok, but I still have the
> following warning message (last line, /var/run/pam_mount is root owned):
>
>   pam_mount: 
>   pam_mount: checking to see if //192.168.1.12/foo is already mounted at
>  /home/foo
>   pam_mount: creating mount /home/foo
>   pam_mount: checking for encrypted filesystem key configuration
>   pam_mount: about to start building mount command
>   pam_mount: mount type is SMBMOUNT
>   pam_mount: waiting for homedir mount
>   pam_mount: command: /bin/mount mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.12/foo
> /home/foo  -o username=foo,uid=foo,gid=foo,dmask=0700

Note taht you will have no chance at all to run KDE or GNOME on smbfs,
with cifs you may get a bit further (relative symlinks actually work in
some circumstances on cifs, but not at all on smbfs). Most of the other
WMs work OK (I have tested at least fluxbox and WindowMaker).

>   pam_mount: unable to open /var/run/pam_mount/toto

Never seen that. The current cooker package works fine for me.

>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$
>
>
> Does anyone has yet faced (and understood) the above errors/warnings
> (I've  found nothing on it googling) ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sébastien.
>
>
> PS :
> It's on an up to date 9.2 :
>   pam_mount-0.9.2-3mdk
>   pam_ldap-164-2mdk
>   samba3-common-3.0.0-2mdk
>   samba3-client-3.0.0-2mdk
>   samba3-server-3.0.0-2mdk
>
> The last pam_mount version is the 9.4, I'll compile it and see if things
> are  going to another way.
>

I don't think that's the problem.

>
> The pam.d/system-auth used was
> --
> authrequired  /lib/security/pam_env.so
> authrequired  /lib/security/pam_mount.so
> authsufficient/lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok
> use_first_pass authsufficient/lib/security/pam_ldap.so
> use_first_pass authrequired  /lib/security/pam_deny.so
>
> account required  /lib/security/pam_unix.so
> account sufficient/lib/security/pam_ldap.so
>
> passwordrequired  /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=2
>   dcredit=0  ucredit=0
> passwordsufficient/lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok
> md5  shadow
> passwordsufficient/lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_authtok
> passwordrequired  /lib/security/pam_deny.so
>
> session required  /lib/security/pam_limits.so
> session required  /lib/security/pam_unix.so
> session optional  /lib/security/pam_mount.so
> session optional  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
> --

Some comments:
1)I don't think it is useful putting pam_mount in system-auth, since I
don't see any value having your smb share mounted when you read your mail
via an IMAP on such a machine, or when you connect to a samba printer (if
you use 'obey pam restrictions = yes') etc. Also, I have had some problems
using pam_mount in system-auth (maybe it doesn't work too well with
pam_stack) in the past.

2)I don't know if you want to make the pam_mount entry required or
requisite, since it may make it impossible to do certain things if your
samba server is unavailable (although I guess there could be scenarios
where you d

Re: [Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)

[Oden Eriksson]

tisdagen den 28 oktober 2003 18.47 skrev Andrey Borzenkov:

[...]

Nice to hear from you again Andrey, where have you been lately?, in the gulag?

> 2all - what do you think of translating contributors list? I mean, using
> native names in native locale. I do not know how many non-ISO8859-1
> contributors are there though ...

I think MDK wants to go UTF-8, but it's pretty dirty so far. If it's 
transparent all the way it's ok to me, but fiddling with UTF-8 source is 
_not_ nice.

[Cooker] [Bug 6187] [drakxtools] connection to Free Dégroupé with sagem fast800 to be adapted

[[baud]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6187





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-23 13:09 ---
note that "sagem_dhcp"  is only availlable if you checked in the "expert" checkbox 

--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 20:59 ---
yes that's what the user did : expert mode (maybe he did not at first...), I'm
asking (you may as well in the thread... ;-) ), ok I do it...

what about dhcpcd and dhclient trying to be both launched ? could you reproduce ?

BTW I think the user did not do it at install, he made it afterwards, using
drakconnect (is there a difference ?)

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Following bug 5690, there's still some work to achieve to make it work flawlessly
Here's the translation from a thread on eagle-usb forum
http://fast800.tuxfamily.org/forums/read.php?f=1&i=6761&t=6761

- in /etc/analog/adiusbadsl.conf, replace
VCI=0024 (instead of 23) and Encapsulation=0004 (instead of 6)

- files pap-secrets and chap-secrets are modified, which is useless as ppp is
not used with Free Dégroupé, /etc/ppp/peers/adsl does not seem created though
(which is correct)

- connection in action tries to launch both dhclient and dhcpd (one should be
enough, static configuration may be better in the end, just a suggestion below)
: erasing dhclient package makes it work correctly (to be reproduced)

Doing all this, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/net_cnx_up launches dhcpcd and
establishes the connection (as soon as Free makes it's own work).

Suggestion : dhcpcd is an heresy IMHO, asking for the static IP may be better in
order to configure (and establish) the connection, which would happen this way
/sbin/ifconfig eth1 @ip_static netmask 255.255.255.0 up
/sbin/route add default gw IP_GATEWAY
ip_static should be asked to the user (there's *always* a way to know it, either
with an URL or with a mail from the ISP)
I haven't yet found a way to determine IP_GATEWAY automatically : it depends on
the interface which is mounted.

This static manner of connection is correct for Telefonica "IP fija" in Spain as
the eagle-usb driver - formerly known as adiusbadsl - works with Sagem Fast800,
Comtrend CT-350 and AT-AR215 as well, modems distributed by many ISP worldwide
France, Spain, Germany, Poland, England to name a few... (VCI may have to be
adapted, though).

[Cooker] [Bug 5241] [kdebase] home_mdk icon is always used even after the icon theme is changed

[[vljubovic]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5241





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 20:51 ---
Works for me 
- Left click on the icon and choose Properties 
- Click on the icon 
- Choose a different icon (for example, home_blue.png in Filesystems) 
- Click Ok, then Ok again 
Voila, even after reboot. 
 
For the issue that the icon is not available in small size, that is true and 
it's very ugly. I suggest that the "normal" kicker size is default. To me 
"small" looks kind of cheap and icewm-ish. 

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The "home" icon overrides any other theme, it is still displayed even if you
choose any other icon. Moreover, after install, it is in medium size, despite
all other icons are in small size.

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

[Vedran Ljubovic]

--- Michael Scherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - Do we need to run depmod if no new modules are
> > installed (many ways to check)?
> 
> i think it  use -A switch and so is runned only if
> it should.

Well if there are new modules it takes almost 30
seconds, without them it's 4 seconds consistently. I
did a few runs and each time it isn't any faster. Go
figure.

> > - I just can't understand why kde takes so long to
> > start!??!? 
> 
> This has to do with the disk. a faster disk help moe
> than a faster 
> processor.
> Maybe using -Os could help, but recompiling to test
> is maybe too much.

At work it starts in less then 10 seconds, but there i
don't use auto-login. This shows that context
switching can really canibalize performance. Ah
well... let's just wait for the 2.6.0 kernel.
 
> > - Idea: postpone cups and scannerdrake startup for
> 60
> > seconds to give desktop a chance to start and
> avoid
> > unnecessary context switching. It's very unlikely
> that
> > someone would like to print or scan something in
> the
> > first 60 seconds? The same trick could be used for
> > crond and atd I believe.
> 
> So, the first 60 secondes would be as unusable as on
> windows ?

omg! whole 60 seconds! i can't print this file for
full 60 seconds, what will i do!??!?!?
well i can barely find a file, open it and click on
print (using a gui) in less then 60 seconds. I can do
it faster in console, but that is runlevel 3 so the
above must not necessarily apply


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[Cooker] [Bug 6116] [galaxy-kde] Scrollbars are invisible in Mandrakegalaxy theme

[[vljubovic]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6116





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 20:38 ---
I can see the scrollbar clearly. Maybe you should use a smaller resolution? 
For very high resolutions, Keramik is better suited than Galaxy... 

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in the galaxy theme, could you please make the scrollbars more visible? I have trouble 
locating them from the foreground: it is grey on grey! :-)

Re: [Cooker] [Bug 6251] [Installation] New: Mdkkdm not installed at first 9.2 install.

[Vedran Ljubovic]

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> First install of 9.2 DE final.
> mdkkdm is not installed and kdm is running instead.

Hey! I though that was a feature!!!

lol

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[Cooker] Re: Fwd: Re: Supermount / Zip100 bug

[Juan Quintela]

> "andrey" == Andrey Borzenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hi

andrey> As I do not have hardware nor sufficient knowledge about it I
andrey> hardly can fix it. It appears ide-floppy does not implement
andrey> media change detection at all - the only thing it does is fake
andrey> media change on driver ->open. It means supermount never
andrey> detects any disk change of course.

Ide-floppy is quite bad, it is easier (for some things) to use
ide-scsi for zips.  The things that I remembered were that:
- ide-floppy just locks the drive on open, no way to change that.
- ide-scsi had other problems that I forgot :(

Will take a look.

Later, Juan.

andrey> Anyone could get a look? The right thing is probably add sense code decoding 
andrey> to idefloppy_analyze_error and use some innocent command like TEST_UNIT_READY 
andrey> in idefloppy_media_change.

andrey> what our kernel gurus on cooker say? :)


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Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

[Michael Scherer]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:14, Vedran Ljubovic wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> Recently there were some articles on Slashdot
> proposing alternative boot procedures. Most of them
> advocate parallelizing of SysV-init tasks. Motivated
> by these I've decided to make a detailed analysis of
> boot procedure and see how can I make it faster.
>
> I have an oldish PC that can run most modern software
> fast enough. This is a vanilla Mdk 9.2 install and I
> use the auto-login feature with KDE. Complete time
> from pressing enter in lilo to a usable desktop is
> exactly 81 seconds. On this same computer Win98 is
> usable in around 35 seconds (I did some tweaking
> though).
>
> Here is a detailed account of the boot procedure. I
> made it using logs and a stopwatch. It should clearly
> point the likely targets for optimization.
>
> [ skip ]

> - Do we need to run depmod if no new modules are
> installed (many ways to check)?

i think it  use -A switch and so is runned only if it should.


> - I just can't understand why kde takes so long to
> start!??!? 

This has to do with the disk. a faster disk help moe than a faster 
processor.
Maybe using -Os could help, but recompiling to test is maybe too much.

> - Idea: postpone cups and scannerdrake startup for 60
> seconds to give desktop a chance to start and avoid
> unnecessary context switching. It's very unlikely that
> someone would like to print or scan something in the
> first 60 seconds? The same trick could be used for
> crond and atd I believe.

So, the first 60 secondes would be as unusable as on windows ?

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[Cooker] Boot-up speed

[Vedran Ljubovic]

Hi,


Recently there were some articles on Slashdot
proposing alternative boot procedures. Most of them
advocate parallelizing of SysV-init tasks. Motivated
by these I've decided to make a detailed analysis of
boot procedure and see how can I make it faster.

I have an oldish PC that can run most modern software
fast enough. This is a vanilla Mdk 9.2 install and I
use the auto-login feature with KDE. Complete time
from pressing enter in lilo to a usable desktop is
exactly 81 seconds. On this same computer Win98 is
usable in around 35 seconds (I did some tweaking
though).

Here is a detailed account of the boot procedure. I
made it using logs and a stopwatch. It should clearly
point the likely targets for optimization.

kernel loading into memory  ~2s
screen is blank ~2s
kernel boots, mounts initrd, performs various
configuration tasks ~5s
rc.sysinit kicks in, some config tasks  ~1s
running devfsd  3s
unmounting initrd, applying sysctl.conf 1s
setting up date & time, loading keymap, setting
hostname~1s
starting USB service**  *9s
fsck1s
root is remounted rw, run swapon<1s
execute depmod -A   4s
a bunch of config tasks are completed   4s
run mandrake_everytime service  3s
switching to runlevel 5 <1s
harddrake service looks for new hardware and saves
configuration   4s
services: network, portmap  2s
services: syslog, partmon, nfslock, sound, random   3s
xfs *1s
netfs   <1s
apmd*2s
dm service goes to background, screen goes blank1s
services: atd, tmdns, rawdevices; kdm_config is being
read1s
xinetd; screen still blank  4s
cups; blue screen with a cursor is shown8s
services: keytable, numlock, internet   1s
crond   1s
kheader <1s
devfsd actions  1s
service "local" sets the console screens<1s
KDE is starting up (splash screen)***   23s
KDE session is restored 5s

* proces is just spawned to the background; these
figures should not be included when summarizing
** I have a USB scanner so it is detected and the
appropriate config tool (scannerdrake) is started
*** at ~11th second scannerdrake is run for the second
time

total: 81 seconds


Some conclusions:
- Overall time to boot a minimal usable console is 27
seconds which is IMHO too much. The biggest problem is
kernel. Unfortunately there seems to be no tool that
can show a log of kernel activities with times (please
correct me), but it seems that most of the time was
spent initializing my two hard disks (more than a
second each). A recompile should solve remaining
problems.
- Why is devfsd taking so long?
- Do we need to run depmod if no new modules are
installed (many ways to check)?
- Sysv is already mostly parallelized. It takes 26
seconds which is better than I expected. Actually, as
I understand, on this single-cpu machine the overhead
of context switching is so high that xinetd and cups
would probably start faster if they were not
parallelized with X.
- Idea: sshd is the only service that uses xinetd.
Standalone sshd would probably boot faster? This
computer connects to the Internet using a modem, I
don't even own a network card. Therefore I probably
don't need sshd at all. 
- While I'm at it, I also don't need netfs, nfslock
(thus portmap) or tmdns. Isn't it possible to disable
these services if no NIC is detected during
installation? Also since this is a desktop pc i don't
need apmd. Can't this also be detected?
- I just can't understand why kde takes so long to
start!??!? Unfortunately, gnome isn't much better. The
"loading session" part in kde can be accellerated by
disabling KOrganizer (if someone wants to use it,
he/she can find it in the menus)
- Idea: postpone cups and scannerdrake startup for 60
seconds to give desktop a chance to start and avoid
unnecessary context switching. It's very unlikely that
someone would like to print or scan something in the
first 60 seconds? The same trick could be used for
crond and atd I believe.

What do you think? Should I apply these optimizations
to my Pc? will anything burn up (except the lg cd-rom)
;)


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[Cooker] Re: [PATCH][9.2 initscripts] redundant code in /etc/profile.d/10lang.sh

[Andrey Borzenkov]

oops forgot to attach the patch.

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:14, Andrey Borzenkov wrote:
> Any reason for duplicating code from mandrake_consmap except because it
> hapens during RH merge :)?
>
> cheers
>
> -andrey
--- /tmp/etc/profile.d/10lang.sh	2003-09-24 18:30:11.0 +0400
+++ /etc/profile.d/10lang.sh	2003-10-28 20:12:03.637746456 +0300
@@ -68,7 +68,6 @@
 [ -n "$_XKB_CHARSET" ] && export _XKB_CHARSET || unset _XKB_CHARSET
 
 [ -f /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap ] && . /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap
-
 unset SYSFONTACM SYSFONT
 
 # handling of special cases where localization is done
@@ -82,32 +81,6 @@
 	[ "$CONSOLE_NOT_LOCALIZED" = "yes" ] && LANGUAGE=C
 fi
 
-if [ -n "$CHARSET" ]; then
-	case $CHARSET in
-	8859-1|8859-2|8859-5|8859-15|koi*)
-if [ "$TERM" = "linux" -a "`/sbin/consoletype`" = "vt" ]; then
-   echo -n -e '\033(K' 2>/dev/null > /proc/$$/fd/0
-fi
-;;
-esac
-elif [ -n "$SYSFONTACM" ]; then
-	case $SYSFONTACM in
-	iso01*|iso02*|iso05*|iso15*|koi*|latin2-ucw*)
-		if [ "$TERM" = "linux" -a "`/sbin/consoletype`" = "vt" ]; then
-			echo -n -e '\033(K' 2>/dev/null > /proc/$$/fd/0
-		fi
-		;;
-	esac
-fi
-if [ -n "$LANG" ]; then
-  case $LANG in
-	*.utf8*|*.UTF-8*)
-	if [ "$TERM" = "linux" -a "`/sbin/consoletype`" = "vt" ]; then
-		unicode_start $SYSFONT $SYSFONTACM
-fi
-	;;
-  esac
-fi
 [ -n "$LANGUAGE" ] && export LANGUAGE
 
 fi

Re: [Cooker] Setting up a virtual provides to all console apps

[Michael Scherer]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 20:05, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> It would be nice to add a provides like 'console' or 'terminal' to
> console apps, xvt is link to some console apps but all those rpms
> haven't a common provides:

while we are on it , something for pdf reader.
it may be useful for documentation.

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[Cooker] Setting up a virtual provides to all console apps

[Olivier Thauvin]

It would be nice to add a provides like 'console' or 'terminal' to console 
apps, xvt is link to some console apps but all those rpms haven't a common 
provides:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] toto]$ rpm -q --provides kdebase-konsole
konsole
kcm_konsole.so
kickermenu_konsole.so
kdebase-konsole = 1:3.1.3-79mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] toto]$ rpm -q --provides xterm
xterm = 179-1mdk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] toto]$ rpm -q --provides rxvt
crxvt
gbrxvt
rxvt-CLE
rxvt = 3:2.7.10-4mdk


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[Cooker] 9.2 - manpages in Russian completely screwed up

[Andrey Borzenkov]

reminder - I have ru_RU.KOI8-R locale

Some man pages are in KOI8. Examples are dd, ls, detectloader etc. These pages 
apparently get high bit stripped (due to the fact that nroff sets -Tascii in 
this case) resulting in excellent and useful output like

ioeoaiea
   oOICOAIIA ls  OIAbAIA  xUxIAEO  ODEOIE  xOAE  AEAEIIx  (IA  EAOAIICIx),
   DAOAbEOIAIIUE  x EIIAIAIIE OOOIEA, A UAOAI xUxIAEO ODEOIE xOAE AEAEIIx,
   IAEIANYEEON x EAOAIICAE, DAOAbEOIAIIUE x  EIIAIAIIE  OOOIEA.   aOIE  IA
   OEAUAII  IE  IAIICI  AEAEIA, OI DI OIIIbAIEA AOCOIAIOII IAUIAbAAOON `.'
   (OAEOYEE   EAOAIIC).iDAEN   -dUAOOAxINAOlsIAObEOAOO
   AOCOIAIOU-EAOAIICE   EAOAIICAIE.   aOAOO  IOIAOAOAOOON  OIIOEI  AEAEIU,
   EIOIOUA IA IAbEIAAOON O `.' EIE xOA AEAEIU, AOIE UAAAIA IDAEN -a.

I can manage to view those by using

LESSCHARSET=latin1 man ...

but it may have more glitches that I did not notice as yet.

RPM manpages apparently are in UTF8. These cannot be viewed at all whatever 
LESSCHARSET I try. The only way is to force English that is not that simple 
given current manpage structure:

LANG=C LANGUAGE=C LC_MESSAGES=C man rpm

please, fix. 

-andrey

[Cooker] [Bug 4321] [kernel] df lists strange filesystem device names on LM9.2beta1/beta2/rc1

[[gosselina]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4321





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 19:54 ---
Inside "software" forum, bgmline has posted in the "9.2 changes the way df and 
mount report mounted device names" a nice example of the problems created by 
this bug. The simple script: 
  df |awk '{print $6}'  
works in 9,1, but fails in 9.2, because long devfs-style names cause the 
output to appear on two lines insterad of one. 

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Running "df" shows: 
 
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on 
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part1 
  3.4G  706M  2.6G  22% / 
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/part6 
   34G   28G  5.5G  84% /home 
 
Are these type of filesystems entries intended ? Should they not be /dev/hdb1 
and /dev/hdb6 instead ?

[Cooker] Fwd: Re: Supermount / Zip100 bug

[Andrey Borzenkov]

As I do not have hardware nor sufficient knowledge about it I hardly can fix 
it. It appears ide-floppy does not implement media change detection at all - 
the only thing it does is fake media change on driver ->open. It means 
supermount never detects any disk change of course.

Anyone could get a look? The right thing is probably add sense code decoding 
to idefloppy_analyze_error and use some innocent command like TEST_UNIT_READY 
in idefloppy_media_change.

what our kernel gurus on cooker say? :)

-andrey

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Subject: Re: Supermount / Zip100 bug
Date: Monday 27 October 2003 23:19
From: Andrey Borzenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Monday 27 October 2003 06:21, you wrote:
> Andrey,
> I downloaded your supermount-ng and successfully
> patched it into kernel 2.4.22. While testing it, I
> found out almost the same problem I used to have when
> I had mandrake in my machine: when I eject a disk, the
> device is not automatically unmounted. Then, when I
> insert a new disk and cd the /mnt/zip dir, the old
> disk tree is still mounted. So, to access another
> disk, I must manually umount and mount it, which would
> make supermount useless.
> Maybe I commited some configuration mistake, or there
> is a bug, but I hope you can help me with this.

Hmm ... now when I got a look it appears that ide-floppy really does not
dynamically check for media presence. The only case when MEDIA_CHANGED flag
is set is on device open and even in this case it is blindly set without ever
consulting real device. So we just assume on every open that media has been
changed.

Paul, is it possible to fix it? I assume it amounts to calling something like
request sense or possibly idefloppy_get_capacity() out of
idefloppy_media_change() except that idefloppy_get_capacity() should then set
IDEFLOPPY_MEDIA_CHANGED if this is the case.

This is the same for both 2.4 and 2.6 trees. Both need fixing to really
support supermount.

Rodrigo, till it is fixed for 2.4 you can use ide-scsi. For 2.6 it was badly
broken last time I checked, do not know exact status now. Hopefully Paul
fixes ide-floppy ...

> My scsi-cdwriter works really fine with supermount.
> I'd say you are doing a fine job.

good. Just use ide-scsi for Zip as well.

-andrey

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[Cooker] Congratulations, thanks and coupla comments :)

[Andrey Borzenkov]

Hi everybody,

hopefully I am back online now. My congratulations with 9.2 (sorry if it comes 
late) and best wishes. As we all hope - it should be successful.

I did not look into mailbox for a month - so much was surprise when I found 
mail about mandrake club ... thank you, I really appreciate it (I guess I 
have to express my thanks to fred lepied in the first place) ... 

Update to 9.2 went mostly smoothly, some glitches below (Pablo, I Cc to you as 
they mostly are i18n issues - surprise surprise :) I updated from 9.1 with 
most updates.

- initscripts l10n glitch, it becomes routine job :) See separate mail for 
patch

- update again screwed up my system by changing locale to UTF8. Because it was 
already discussed I am forced to use emphasis here - DO NOT CHANGE SYSTEM 
SETTINGS ON UPDATE. That is even more annoying as I explicitly deselected 
"use UTF8" during installer run ...

- printerdrake assumes ISO-8859-1 when reading system files. The effect - it 
creates printer with name "Printer" in Russian and writes it into CUPS file. 
Then it reads it but displays using Western charset. With obvious effect. 
This concerns ALL tools. Any tool should assume that local files have 
encoding determined by current locale. It was discussed with gc already re. 
rpmdrake (.rpmnew merge).

- for some reason kdeutils was not updated. I suspect it is due to new package 
being virtual and some weird dependency resolution problems.

- kdepim was removed but replacement packages have not been installed (with 
effect that address book call from kmail did not work)

- there are problems in some MCC tools when embedded, they do not fit in 
parent window (apparently due to different size of translated strings) but no 
scrollbars are available so some controls (buttons et al) cannot be reached. 
More or less the same as always, it happens in every release. I can send 
screenshots if anyone is interested.

Apart from that funny thing is that KDE does not start non-KDE programs in 
saved session. I had saved session with two konsole and gkrellm - gkrellm 
never appears. Even when I saved session again. I just start it out of 
Autostart now (fortunately new version supports all WM hints that eliminates 
need to use kstart or other dirty tricks).

Of course lack of kernel sources was very bad surprise ... I suspect that most 
people who use downloaded version would miss it actually, to me it makes more 
sense in some stripped down boxed version. Which means I did not even run 
mandrake kernel yet because I have nvidia and cannot compile drivers :) Not a 
big deal as I run 2.6 anyway but still I was curious.

Some sugar.

The overall look is really more polished and professional. MCC looks very 
nice, do I understand right that draksec now takes care of grsecurity 
settings? Some options smell like it. Translations were also mostly good so 
far.

2all - what do you think of translating contributors list? I mean, using 
native names in native locale. I do not know how many non-ISO8859-1 
contributors are there though ...

[Cooker] [PATCH][9.2 initscripts] redundant code in /etc/profile.d/10lang.sh

[Andrey Borzenkov]

Any reason for duplicating code from mandrake_consmap except because it hapens 
during RH merge :)?

cheers

-andrey

[Cooker] [PATCH][9.2 initscripts] fix l10n during shutdown

[Andrey Borzenkov]

Apparently breaking this particular case became favorite game. It has been 
broken and fixed already and may be even more than once.

When you shutdown without logging in on vt1 first console is not switched to 
correct charset. So all nice Russian output is garbled.

Please consider for next initscripts update.

regards

-andrey
--- /etc/rc.d/rc.mandrake_consmap	2003-09-24 18:30:15.0 +0400
+++ /etc/rc.d/rc	2003-10-28 19:58:52.0 +0300
@@ -67,6 +67,11 @@ if [ "$previous" = "N" ]; then
 elif [[ "$newrunlevel" = "0" || "$newrunlevel" = "6" ]]; then
 chvt 1
 exec &> /dev/console
+# Make sure terminal is switched to correct charset.
+# It has to be after chvt of course. For startup case it really
+# does not matter as tty is not changed between rc.sysinit and rc
+# DO NOT REMOVE THIS. Please :)
+[ -f /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap ] && . /etc/init.d/mandrake_consmap
 fi
 
 # Tell linuxconf what runlevel we are in

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk

[magic]

Buchan Milne wrote:

(BTW, Fred, I didn't get that LDAP plugin to work, any time I added
configuration for it to the jabber.xml file I couldn't start the server
:-().
   Buchan,

   Are you talking about the xdb_auth_cpile component?  I was looking 
at that, and might want to try (although on a mdk91 machine). I was 
wondering though if that is an all or nothing type of thing. (If all 
auth requests go there.)

   Ideally I believe I would like to use that (for internal users) but 
still maintain the default jabber auth for conferences where (external) 
users are not known by the ldap server.

   Thanks,

   S

[Cooker] [Bug 5241] [kdebase] home_mdk icon is always used even after the icon theme is changed

[[zeb]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5241





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 19:13 ---
Still valid in 9.2 DE final. Each time the system is restarted, the home_mdk
icon overrides the icon I may have changed before.

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choose any other icon. Moreover, after install, it is in medium size, despite
all other icons are in small size.

[Cooker] [Bug 6000] [X11R6-contrib] Hardware acceleration with 3DFX Voodoo 4/5 broken

[[dlugo]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6000





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 19:12 ---
You are likely correct, but I don't think I have rights to assign it to the
other product(s) :(

Best regards,

Dave

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graphics card. X works great without hardware acceleration.

[Cooker] [Bug 6253] [kdebase] New: Cannot set konqueror to double click mode.

[[seguso.forever]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6253

   Summary: Cannot set konqueror to double click mode.
   Product: kdebase
   Version: 3.1.3-9mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
 Component: kdebase
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Fresh install of mandrake 9.2. Set konqueror's view mode to detailed list view.
Notice it is in single click mode. I want to change that. I go to kde control
center, peripherals, mouse.

bug #1)
The radio button says "double click", but konqueror is in single click mode.

bug #2)
I try to select single click, then again double.
konqueror is still in single click mode.

I'm surprised this has not been fixed since mandrake 9.1. Is there a particular
reason?

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[Cooker] ldap + samba3 + pam_mount

[PAOLACCI Sébastien]

Hello there,

I'm trying to install a long awaited (by myself, because I only have 3 boxes) 
full ldap based authentification, with smb as network filesystem for both 
Linux and Windows worstation (I want to throw away nfs and anyway I have to 
use samba for my windows box, stupid ?).

The ldap based authentification and samba-ldap are fine working. Last step is 
therefore using pam_mount for home directory (+ few other shares).

Here is what I faced, could you please tell me if I'm wrong 

pam_mount is able to pass password to the stack, but not to keep it back from 
the stack -> pam_mount must be stacked first in the auth section.

I don't know why, but if I stack pam_mount after pam_ldap in the session 
section, mount operation will abort with the following message :

  pam_mount: unable to open /var/run/pam_mount/foo
  pam_mount: received order to close things
(...)
  su: unbind.c:40: ldap_unbind_ext: Assertion `( (ld)->ld_options.ldo_valid ==   
  0x2 )' failed.
(...)

If I toggle pam_ldap & pam_mount, things are ok, but I still have the 
following warning message (last line, /var/run/pam_mount is root owned):

  pam_mount: 
  pam_mount: checking to see if //192.168.1.12/foo is already mounted at 
  /home/foo
  pam_mount: creating mount /home/foo
  pam_mount: checking for encrypted filesystem key configuration
  pam_mount: about to start building mount command
  pam_mount: mount type is SMBMOUNT
  pam_mount: waiting for homedir mount
  pam_mount: command: /bin/mount mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.12/foo /home/foo 
  -o username=foo,uid=foo,gid=foo,dmask=0700
  pam_mount: unable to open /var/run/pam_mount/toto
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]$ 


Does anyone has yet faced (and understood) the above errors/warnings (I've 
found nothing on it googling) ?

Thanks in advance,
Sébastien.


PS : 
It's on an up to date 9.2 :
pam_mount-0.9.2-3mdk
pam_ldap-164-2mdk
samba3-common-3.0.0-2mdk
samba3-client-3.0.0-2mdk
samba3-server-3.0.0-2mdk

The last pam_mount version is the 9.4, I'll compile it and see if things are 
going to another way.


The pam.d/system-auth used was
--
authrequired  /lib/security/pam_env.so
authrequired  /lib/security/pam_mount.so
authsufficient/lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok use_first_pass
authsufficient/lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_first_pass
authrequired  /lib/security/pam_deny.so

account required  /lib/security/pam_unix.so
account sufficient/lib/security/pam_ldap.so

passwordrequired  /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=2  
dcredit=0  ucredit=0
passwordsufficient/lib/security/pam_unix.so nullok use_authtok md5 
shadow
passwordsufficient/lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_authtok
passwordrequired  /lib/security/pam_deny.so

session required  /lib/security/pam_limits.so
session required  /lib/security/pam_unix.so
session optional  /lib/security/pam_mount.so
session optional  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so
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and I've commented out the pam_rootok.so line in pam.d/su to only use the 
service=system methode in auth section (I 'll se this point later ... ;-) )

Re: [Cooker] PowerDNS

[Charles A Edwards]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:46:43 +0200
Mircea Ciocan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The same thing was happening with encryption extension of gaim-0.71 
> while compilling for 9.2, I was forced to rename it in the install 
> section to have working encryption on gaim :(.

use
%define __libtoolize /bin/true

also for gaim-0.71
%define encrypt_version 2.15

BTW the rpms have been available from my site since the release of 0.71


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[Cooker] Re: OT: My $firewall is bigger than yours!

[Juan Quintela]

> "brad" == Brad Felmey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

brad> On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:02, Juan Quintela wrote:
>> And people told me that my firewall with a Via C3-800 is
>> over-dimensioned :)

brad> LOL!

brad> Mine is a SuperMicro 4U dual 2.4GHz Xeon, 4GB RAM, 500GB RAID5 15k SCSI.
brad> It's kind of a waste, but the box was just an extra lying around.

Noxt time that you have an extra box lying around, just ask for my
mail address :)

/me counts and you have more RAM and more disk that all my machines
combined in that one.

Later, Juan.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk

[magic]

Hmmm,

   I just installed and took a look at. (It is not what I expected...)
It appears to be a shell script, that generates config file(s).
   Thanks anyways!

   S

Frederic Crozat wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:06:28 -0500, magic wrote:


Hey all,

   I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd 
quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?

   http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/


Hmm, I'm not sure this one is needed nor useful for our own package..

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Francisco Alcaraz]

They will be released as the previous isos, for MandrakeClub 
members and via Bitorrent?

Regards

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)

El Martes, 28 de Octubre de 2003 16:28, Emmanuel Moll 
escribió:
> Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages
> from the update site. Have also updated Mozilla to
> version 1.5, included Thunderbird and Firebird and
> updated k3b to 0.10. I'll bittorrent the isos tomorrow
> and wil release them tomorrow.
>
> Manu

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Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Francisco Alcaraz]

Take in account that gaim 0.68 can't manage the new MSN 
protocol; 0.71 can.

Regards

Francisco Alcaraz
Murcia (Spain)

El Martes, 28 de Octubre de 2003 16:28, Emmanuel Moll 
escribió:
> Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages
> from the update site. Have also updated Mozilla to
> version 1.5, included Thunderbird and Firebird and
> updated k3b to 0.10. I'll bittorrent the isos tomorrow
> and wil release them tomorrow.
>
> Manu

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Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?

[Brook Humphrey]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 08:56 am, Götz Waschk wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 18:17:45 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne:
> > > The readme said so, because it's still beta. I can change this to gtk2
> > > in the next package, but we should test this first.
> >
> > I'm going home now, so I will try it on 9.1 with gtk2 (see if I can
> > build wxmozilla and documancer), and try it on cooker tomorrow (and some
> > other wxPython stuff, wxGlade should be enough to test it well I
> > think?). At least things will look better ...
>
> I've prepared some untested packages of wxPythonGTK with gtk2 and
> unicode support:
> http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake
>
> Please give them a try. I'll test them ASAP with nicotine and
> bittorrent-gui.
>
> CU

it works fine with abc (another bittorent gui). It did not work with audacity 
as your version of wxgtk is older than what audacity wants. Audacity wants 
2.5 and you are using 2.4 but as stated abc works like it ever did with it.
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Re: [Cooker] PowerDNS

[Mircea Ciocan]

   The same thing was happening with encryption extension of gaim-0.71 
while compilling for 9.2, I was forced to rename it in the install 
section to have working encryption on gaim :(.

   Mircea

P.S. More testers are welcome, unoffical rpms at: 
http://mircea.interplus.ro/ftp/ultraupdates

Oden Eriksson wrote:

Hi.

I started updating the package, but now no *.so files is built..., I can't see 
why... All the modular functions as mysql, bind, postgresql, etc. was 
previously built with a *.so extension, but now it has none. I have seen this 
before but cannot remember the fix. Here's what it looks like now:

libgmysqlbackend
libgmysqlbackend.0
libgmysqlbackend.0.0.0
libgmysqlbackend.a
libgmysqlbackend.la
I have diffed the sources but cannot find what's wrong or what's changed... Is 
this some autoconf/libtool screw-up?

Gwenole?



 

Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?

[Buchan Milne]

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Götz Waschk wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 17:56:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Götz Waschk:
>
>>I've prepared some untested packages of wxPythonGTK with gtk2 and
>>unicode support:
>>http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake
>>Please give them a try. I'll test them ASAP with nicotine and
>>bittorrent-gui.
>
>
> Bittorrent and pyslsk seem to work fine, but I don't know what will
> happen if these apps run for a few days. There have been reports of
> memory holes in the gtk2 builds of  amule and xmule, these could also
> be in wxPythonGTKs wxgtk library.

OK, I built initial packages for wxmozilla, but launching documancer
from it's source directory doesn't use wxmozilla, but wxHTML, so it may
not be necessary at present to have wxmozilla-python (though I will try
and get it working).

But, I will make a wxmozilla package (without python for now) anyway.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Luca Olivetti]

Buchan Milne ha scritto:
Emmanuel Moll wrote:

Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages from the update
site. Have also updated Mozilla to version 1.5


If you're using my packages for mozilla 1.5, note that I didn't include
the 110n stuff, as it wasn't available at the time.
With a more sensible packaging scheme, they could be packaged separately 
when they are available.

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Re: [Cooker] ADSL + postfix default config = open relay?

[Luca Berra]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:34:46PM +0100, Florin wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruno Prior) writes:
...
This is FALSE. The default postfix configuration is binded to localhost.
So if, for some season, you bind your localhost to your external IP
address, then your postfix is, indeed, acting as a open relay.
his problem seems to be different.
IF your external IP is on a broadcast network
AND
IF you change inet_interfaces
THEN
you are an open relay
and i think we should prevent lusers shooting themselves if we can,
see my previous post for a possible solution
L.

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Re: [Cooker] PowerDNS

[Charles A Edwards]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:25:32 +0100
Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have diffed the sources but cannot find what's wrong or what's
> changed... Is this some autoconf/libtool screw-up?



use
%define __libtoolize /bin/true 


Charles

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk

[Buchan Milne]

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magic wrote:
> Hey all,
>
>I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd
> quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?
>
>http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/

It's mainly a dialog-based bash script to hack (well, cat mostly) stuff
into the jabber.xml file, and a bundled jabberd binary.

It can't edit the configuration really, so there's not much that this
does that isn't done by the package.

(BTW, Fred, I didn't get that LDAP plugin to work, any time I added
configuration for it to the jabber.xml file I couldn't start the server
:-().

Regards,
Buchan
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Re: [Cooker] network icon on deskop?

[Buchan Milne]

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FACORAT Fabrice wrote:
>
> Have you fill some bug report to http://bugs.kde.org/ ? if not, you
> should as you have some very interesting things.

Not yet, I guess I should ... though I may start working on some things
quite soon, but I guess it's better to post pactches into KDE bugzilla.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] ADSL + postfix default config = open relay?

[Luca Berra]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 02:33:12PM +, Bruno Prior wrote:
maybe we should change default postfix main.cf forcing
mynetwork_style=host, so there would be two step to open a relay
1) change inet_interfaces to be able to receive mail
2) set mynetworks (comments should advise to leave mynetworks_style
alone)
This makes sense, since there are people who don't want to relay mail,
but might want to receive it.
Seems unnecessary if my problem has already been put right in newer 
default configurations.
no,
default configuration disables postfix for network
usually people that want to use postfix from network change
inet_interfaces.
in your case it results in open-relay.
L.
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[Cooker] PowerDNS

[Oden Eriksson]

Hi.

I started updating the package, but now no *.so files is built..., I can't see 
why... All the modular functions as mysql, bind, postgresql, etc. was 
previously built with a *.so extension, but now it has none. I have seen this 
before but cannot remember the fix. Here's what it looks like now:

libgmysqlbackend
libgmysqlbackend.0
libgmysqlbackend.0.0.0
libgmysqlbackend.a
libgmysqlbackend.la

I have diffed the sources but cannot find what's wrong or what's changed... Is 
this some autoconf/libtool screw-up?

Gwenole?

Re: [Cooker] dynamic required by devfs?

[Greg Meyer]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 11:43 am, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
> Le Mardi 28 Octobre 2003 14:40, Greg Meyer a écrit :
> > Why is dynamic desktop required by devfs?  Shouldn't it be the other way
> > around, that dynamic requires devfs?
>
> I allready asked, but never got an answer, worst, dynamic is still buggy on
> 9.2 with usb key. Saturday, just before to start a conference about plf, I
> froze the 9.2 computer behind 75 guys. :(

will anything be hurt if I rpm -e dynamic --nodeps ?
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Re: [Cooker] network icon on deskop?

[FACORAT Fabrice]

Le mar 28/10/2003 à 10:55, Buchan Milne a écrit :
> Some small issues at present, mainly with LDAP:
> kio_ldap needs some work, since IMHO ldap:/ should show the default LDAP
> server (as pam_ldap, nss_ldap and ldapsearch etc use), either the one
> configured in /etc/ldap.conf, or if it is not configured there, the
> result of a lookup for the _ldap._tcp SRV record.
> 
> Also, my "Directory" entry doesn't have a tree that expands, if you try
> an expand it, you get an error "Can't find parent item
> ldap://ldap.cae.co.za/?one in the tree. Internal error."
> 
> Also, double clicking on an entry gives you the dn for the entry in
> KWrite (no attributes even). I guess we need a kpart for LDIF.
> 
> I have attached two files, modify them (at least the ldap.desktop if you
> have an LDAP server) and place them in
> .kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/virtual_folders/services

Have you fill some bug report to http://bugs.kde.org/ ? if not, you
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[Cooker] [Bug 6231] [GConf] gnucash crashes with new gconf

[[mmacleod]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6231





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After updating to

GConf-1.0.9-12mdk.i586
GConf2-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586
libGConf1-1.0.9-12mdk.i586
libGConf2_4-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586
libGConf2_4-devel-2.4.0.1-2mdk.i586

gnucash no longer starts, it complains that gtkhtml cannot connect to gconfd.
One maybe has to open a report to trigger this? My gnucash opens some reports
upon start.

After downgrading to previous (9.2) GConf stuff and relogin, gnucash works again.

Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk

[Frederic Crozat]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:06:28 -0500, magic wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd 
> quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?
> 
> http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/

Hmm, I'm not sure this one is needed nor useful for our own package..

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Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Emmanuel Moll]

done :-)

Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:

Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages from the update 
site. Have also updated Mozilla to version 1.5, included Thunderbird and 
Firebird and updated k3b to 0.10
   

and if you are using my k3b rpms,

1.) have in mind that there are 3 negative votes (without resons :( )

2.) and make sure to include k3b-plugins 
- not existent in k3b-0.9-11mdk
- existent in k3b_0.10cvs, but in wrong group?

svetljo 

 

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk

[magic]

Hey all,

   I was just wondering if there was any chance of having the jabberd 
quickstart included in the jabber rpm (or possibly a seperate one)?

   http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/quickstart/

   Thanks,

   S

Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
-=-=-=-
Name: jabber   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1.4.2aVendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 11mdk Build Date: Fri Oct 24 17:50:19 2003
Install Date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : System/ServersSource RPM: (none)
Size: 1338105  License: Jabber Open Source License/GPL
Signature   : (none)
Packager: Mandrake Linux Team 
URL : http://jabber.org/
Summary : Jabber is an instant messaging System.
Description :
Jabber is an instant messaging System, similar to ICQ or AIM, yet far
different.
It is open source, absolutely free, simple, fast, extensible, modularized,
cross platform, and created with the future in mind. Jabber has been
designed from the ground up to serve the needs of the end user, satisfy
business demands, and maintain compatibility with other messaging systems.


-=-=-=-
Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.4.2a-11mdk
- BuildRequires

-=-=-=-
W: jabber invalid-license Jabber Open Source License/GPL
-=-=-=-
jabber.spec changed
--- jabber-1.4.2a-10mdk.src.rpm/jabber.spec	2003-10-24 20:23:34.0 +0200
+++ jabber-1.4.2a-11mdk.src.rpm/jabber.spec	2003-10-24 20:23:34.0 +0200
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 Summary: Jabber is an instant messaging System.
 Name: jabber
 Version: %{official_version}a
-Release: 10mdk
+Release: 11mdk
 Source0: %{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
 Source2: jabber.initrd
 Source3: jabber.cfg.bz2
@@ -58,6 +58,7 @@
 # used in initscripts but that should be implicit nowadays
 Requires: file
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-root
+BuildRequires:	curl-devel
 BuildRequires:	openssl-devel
 BuildRequires:  libsigc++-devel
 BuildRequires:  glib-devel
@@ -402,6 +403,9 @@
 
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Oct 24 2003 Stefan van der Eijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.4.2a-11mdk
+- BuildRequires 
+
 * Fri Sep 26 2003 Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.4.2a-10mdk
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Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?

[Götz Waschk]

Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 17:56:32 Uhr MET, schrieb Götz Waschk:
> I've prepared some untested packages of wxPythonGTK with gtk2 and
> unicode support:
> http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake
> Please give them a try. I'll test them ASAP with nicotine and
> bittorrent-gui.

Bittorrent and pyslsk seem to work fine, but I don't know what will
happen if these apps run for a few days. There have been reports of
memory holes in the gtk2 builds of  amule and xmule, these could also
be in wxPythonGTKs wxgtk library.
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Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Emmanuel Moll]

I'm using chrips' from http://norlug.org/~chipster/index.pxml?rpms

Manu

P.S: Just realised that isolinux still uses the old kernel (with LG 
problem). Tried to update it by copying vmlinuz across but then got a 
CD-ROM access error.

Buchan Milne wrote:

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Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages from the update
site. Have also updated Mozilla to version 1.5
   

If you're using my packages for mozilla 1.5, note that I didn't include
the 110n stuff, as it wasn't available at the time.
Regards,
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Re: [Cooker] gambas and gambas-gui src.rpm's uploaded

[Buchan Milne]

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Rob wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 October 2003 11:41, Buchan Milne wrote:
>
>>Is there any way to avoid duplicating the gambas source in the
>>gambas-gui package?
>
> Well, we had earlier discussed building a tarball of the gui code
> (the app/ subdirectory of the gambas source tree) that gets
> installed along with the gambas base rpm.

Or maybe make a gambas-source subpackage with only the source files
needed to build gambas-gui that are not in the gambas-devel package?

> It shouldn't be a big
> deal since gambas is a buildrequires of gambas-gui anyway.  But
> is that sort of thing acceptable for automated build processes
> and whatnot?

See apache-source and kernel-source. As long as the necessary files are
guaranteed to be available at build time by doing nothing besides
installing the SRPM and all buildrequires, it's no problem. Relying on
something else to place sources in $RPM_BUILD_DIR like the rhide SRPM
does is not acceptable.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Svetoslav Slavtchev]

> Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages from the update 
> site. Have also updated Mozilla to version 1.5, included Thunderbird and 
> Firebird and updated k3b to 0.10

and if you are using my k3b rpms,

1.) have in mind that there are 3 negative votes (without resons :( )

2.) and make sure to include k3b-plugins 
- not existent in k3b-0.9-11mdk
- existent in k3b_0.10cvs, but in wrong group?

svetljo 

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Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?

[Götz Waschk]

Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 18:17:45 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne:
> > The readme said so, because it's still beta. I can change this to gtk2
> > in the next package, but we should test this first.
> I'm going home now, so I will try it on 9.1 with gtk2 (see if I can
> build wxmozilla and documancer), and try it on cooker tomorrow (and some
> other wxPython stuff, wxGlade should be enough to test it well I
> think?). At least things will look better ...

I've prepared some untested packages of wxPythonGTK with gtk2 and
unicode support:
http://wwwra.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/Mandrake

Please give them a try. I'll test them ASAP with nicotine and
bittorrent-gui.

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[Cooker] [Bug 6252] [iptables] New: ip MASQUERADING does not work with Mdk 9.2 beta RC2

[[bcostal]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6252

   Summary: ip MASQUERADING does not work with Mdk 9.2 beta RC2
   Product: iptables
   Version: 1.2.8-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
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Ip MASQUERADING does not seem to work with Mdk 9.2 beta RC2. I eventually got 
it to work by swapping 2.4.22-6mdk source with 2.4.22 from 
http://www.kernel.org and iptables with iptables-1.2.8 from 
http://netfilter.org/. Compiling Netfilter sites's iptables-1.2.8 with 
2.4.22-6mdk does not resolve the problem.

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Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

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Emmanuel Moll wrote:
> Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages from the update
> site. Have also updated Mozilla to version 1.5

If you're using my packages for mozilla 1.5, note that I didn't include
the 110n stuff, as it wasn't available at the time.

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] [Bug 6251] [Installation] New: Mdkkdm not installed at first 9.2 install.

[[zeb]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6251

   Summary: Mdkkdm not installed at first 9.2 install.
   Product: Installation
   Version: 1.846
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
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First install of 9.2 DE final.
mdkkdm is not installed and kdm is running instead.

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[Cooker] [Bug 6179] [evolution] evolution don't find english spell-check dictionnary

[[fcrozat]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6179


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Closing as fixed.. There is an upstream bug so it might get fixed on day or
another..

http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=49996

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aspell-fr and aspell-en.
Evolution does recognize that I have a french dictionnary, but it does not
recognize the english dictionnary.
My system is Mdk-9.2.
Note that it was OK with mdk-9.1 and packages from Mandrake club (evolution-1.4.0)

Re: [Cooker] gambas and gambas-gui src.rpm's uploaded

[Rob]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 11:41, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Is there any way to avoid duplicating the gambas source in the
> gambas-gui package?

Well, we had earlier discussed building a tarball of the gui code 
(the app/ subdirectory of the gambas source tree) that gets 
installed along with the gambas base rpm.  It shouldn't be a big 
deal since gambas is a buildrequires of gambas-gui anyway.  But 
is that sort of thing acceptable for automated build processes 
and whatnot?

Rob

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

[Emmanuel Moll]

Right, I've created the ISOs, updated all the packages from the update 
site. Have also updated Mozilla to version 1.5, included Thunderbird and 
Firebird and updated k3b to 0.10. I'll bittorrent the isos tomorrow and 
wil release them tomorrow.

Manu

[Cooker] [Bug 6116] [galaxy-kde] Scrollbars are invisible in Mandrakegalaxy theme

[[seguso.forever]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6116





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Cannot locate scrollbars

Here is a screenshot that shows the problem.
The vertical scrollbar is VERY difficult to locate. I challenge you :-)

And there is no supported way to change the skin for gnome apps if you use
kde...

Since the mandrake galaxy theme is very similar to the gnome nuvola theme, you
may want to clone their solution: just make the scrollbar _background_ a
uniform, dark color. That would make the scrollbar visible.

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Hello, 
 
in the galaxy theme, could you please make the scrollbars more visible? I have trouble 
locating them from the foreground: it is grey on grey! :-)

Re: [Cooker] dynamic required by devfs?

[Olivier Thauvin]

Le Mardi 28 Octobre 2003 14:40, Greg Meyer a écrit :
> Why is dynamic desktop required by devfs?  Shouldn't it be the other way
> around, that dynamic requires devfs?

I allready asked, but never got an answer, worst, dynamic is still buggy on 
9.2 with usb key. Saturday, just before to start a conference about plf, I 
froze the 9.2 computer behind 75 guys. :(

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[Cooker] [Bug 6250] [urpmi] New: urpmi/rpmdrake fail to automatically show the kernel update after install

[[zeb]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6250

   Summary: urpmi/rpmdrake fail to automatically show the kernel
update after install
   Product: urpmi
   Version: 4.4-37mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
 Component: urpmi
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I have two machines, and urpmi has not the same behaviour toward kernel updates.

1st machine : a computer with cooker.
urpmi seems to work properly. When a new kernel appears in Mandrake-devel,
"urpmi kernel" returns me a list of 11 available kernels with a question about
which one to choose. (1-11)

2nd machine : a computer where the 9.2 DE has been installed, and Mandrake
Update has been run. The kernel update does not appear in the list.
urpmi kernel says everything is installed. However, urpmq kernel lists all
kernels : kernel-2.4.22-10mdk (and other versions enterprise, tmb, etc...),
kernel-2.4.22-18mdk and kernel-2.4.22-21mdk. To install the latest kernel, I
have to type specifically urpmi kernel-2.4.22-21mdk.

I was wondering if this difference of behaviour was normal, since it is exactly
the same urpmi.

Is it because kernel appears in "main" cooker medium in the first case, but in
the update medium in the 2nd case and thus is ignored ? Should not the kernel
appear anyway even in an update source ?

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Re: [Cooker] gambas and gambas-gui src.rpm's uploaded

[Rob]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 11:27, Buchan Milne wrote:
> Any chance of making your spec file available where someone
> besides Lenny can get it?

Hmm, sure.  (Didn't realize incoming was write-only since I could 
get a list of files.)

http://www.kudla.org/rpm/gambas.spec
http://www.kudla.org/rpm/gambas-gui.spec

And the actual source RPM's are in the appropriate 9.2 
subdirectory.

Rob

[Cooker] [Bug 6090] [libgnomeprint2-2_0] output file name is "always" output.ps

[[fcrozat]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6090


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Fixed in libgnomeprintui-2.3.1-4mdk (available on
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~fcrozat/libgnomeprint/ )



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Re: [Cooker] gambas and gambas-gui src.rpm's uploaded

[Buchan Milne]

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Rob wrote:
> I managed to work out my rpmlint problems and have finally
> uploaded source RPM's for gambas, a Visual BASIC-like language
> and IDE, to incoming.  Please let me know if there are any
> problems.

Any chance of making your spec file available where someone besides
Lenny can get it?

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] gambas and gambas-gui src.rpm's uploaded

[Rob]

I managed to work out my rpmlint problems and have finally 
uploaded source RPM's for gambas, a Visual BASIC-like language 
and IDE, to incoming.  Please let me know if there are any 
problems.

Thanks
Rob Kudla

Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?

[Buchan Milne]

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Götz Waschk wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 17:49:13 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne:
>
>>But, Mozilla is built with gtk2, and for some odd reason wxPython is
>>built with gtk1.x (whereas wxGTK is built against gtk2). wxMozilla won't
>>build the Python bits if the versions of gtk2 used don't match. And
>>documancer needs the Python bits of wxMozilla it seems.
>>Is there a good reason for this?
>
>
> The readme said so, because it's still beta. I can change this to gtk2
> in the next package, but we should test this first.

I'm going home now, so I will try it on 9.1 with gtk2 (see if I can
build wxmozilla and documancer), and try it on cooker tomorrow (and some
other wxPython stuff, wxGlade should be enough to test it well I
think?). At least things will look better ...

Depending how it goes, maybe I will just add a switch for building with
gtk2 for the moment.

Regards,
Buchan

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Re: [Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?

[Götz Waschk]

Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2003, 17:49:13 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne:
> But, Mozilla is built with gtk2, and for some odd reason wxPython is
> built with gtk1.x (whereas wxGTK is built against gtk2). wxMozilla won't
> build the Python bits if the versions of gtk2 used don't match. And
> documancer needs the Python bits of wxMozilla it seems.
> Is there a good reason for this?

The readme said so, because it's still beta. I can change this to gtk2
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[Cooker] Any reason wxPython is built against gtk1.x?

[Buchan Milne]

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I was wanting to build wxMozilla so I could build
http://documancer.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php

But, Mozilla is built with gtk2, and for some odd reason wxPython is
built with gtk1.x (whereas wxGTK is built against gtk2). wxMozilla won't
build the Python bits if the versions of gtk2 used don't match. And
documancer needs the Python bits of wxMozilla it seems.

Is there a good reason for this?
Götz?

Regards,
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Re: [Cooker] OT: My $firewall is bigger than yours!

[Buchan Milne]

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Brad Felmey wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:02, Juan Quintela wrote:
>
>
>>And people told me that my firewall with a Via C3-800 is
>>over-dimensioned :)
>
>
> LOL!
>
> Mine is a SuperMicro 4U dual 2.4GHz Xeon, 4GB RAM, 500GB RAID5 15k SCSI.
> It's kind of a waste, but the box was just an extra lying around.

I'll trade!

We run our production firewall (with about 60 machines behind it, a bit
of a DMZ etc) on a P133/32MB. Your firewall probably beats all of the
machines we have here (we have some 2.8GHz Xeon/2GB CAD machines, but
our fastest server is a single 2GHz Xeon/512MB/480GB hardware IDE RAID
and it gets abused for running simulations too).

If it was "just an extra lying around", I will take any similar machines
you that are just taking up space!

Regards,
Buchan

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[Cooker] OT: My $firewall is bigger than yours!

[Brad Felmey]

On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 09:02, Juan Quintela wrote:

> And people told me that my firewall with a Via C3-800 is
> over-dimensioned :)

LOL!

Mine is a SuperMicro 4U dual 2.4GHz Xeon, 4GB RAM, 500GB RAID5 15k SCSI.
It's kind of a waste, but the box was just an extra lying around.
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Re: [Cooker] Error buildin Openoffice.org1.1 0.rc4.2mdk

[R N dev]

> Thanks for the tip, Leon. Setting OVERRIDE_JAVA_HOME
> to 
> /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2 got me over the GIJ hump.
> Unfortunately, it died 
> about five hours into the build process with the
> following:

Instead it died exactly in the same line as before for

me... but i didn't clean all i'll try later :-(

IMO I think the problem is into gcc-java 
package, i think cookers have the new version (present
into 9.2?) but requirements allow to use the one 
before. But I don't know why j2sdk1.4.2 doesn't work!

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[Cooker] Re: possible kernel (xfs?) BUG in 9.2 kernels (10mdk/21mdk)

[Thomas Backlund]

Juan Quintela kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Tiistai 28 Lokakuu 2003 
17:02):
> > "tmb" == Thomas Backlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> tmb> I upgraded my firewall to 9.2 and got into a weird problem :-(
> tmb> it's a dual p2-333 with 256mb of ram
>
> And people told me that my firewall with a Via C3-800 is
> over-dimensioned :)
>
Yeah..
but I'm also using it for apache2, samba3, imp webmail, ftp, squid proxy,
and am planning to set up a cvs and a slbd rebuilder on it, ...
just to keep it busy ;-)

> [scsi and RAID is used ]
>
Yeah...
I forgot to mention it...
I'm using aic7xxx scsi controller, (and soft raid0/1 as mentioned earlier)

> tmb> when the system is installed and has been running for I while...
> tmb> it just seems locks up, and does not respond to any keyboard
> activities, tmb> and the sad part is I don't have any errors to show ...
> not in logs, and not tmb> on the console... so go figure :-(
>
> that is really strange.  Can you try a serial console?
> I use xfs in one of my machines and it is working well.
> /me sees reinstalling yet again :p
>

I'll try to set it up tonight or tomorrow...

> tmb> When I get home tonight I'll try to boot an up kernel, to see if it's
> smp tmb> related... I'll also try to figure out what's wrong... but for now
> I just tmb> wanted to give preliminary info...
>
> tmb> as for now I reverted to an older kernel of my own:
> tmb> 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdksmp
>
> tmb> and it works as it should...
>
> Humm, that is _very_ strange.  xfs should work as expected.
>

well I'm using xfs on my athlon xp2000+ here, and have never had any problems 
so... weird...

> /me stress test an xfs partition in its SMP machine.
>
> Later, Juan.

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[Cooker] Re: possible kernel (xfs?) BUG in 9.2 kernels (10mdk/21mdk)

[Juan Quintela]

> "tmb" == Thomas Backlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

tmb> I upgraded my firewall to 9.2 and got into a weird problem :-(
tmb> it's a dual p2-333 with 256mb of ram

And people told me that my firewall with a Via C3-800 is
over-dimensioned :)

[scsi and RAID is used ]

tmb> when the system is installed and has been running for I while...
tmb> it just seems locks up, and does not respond to any keyboard activities,
tmb> and the sad part is I don't have any errors to show ... not in logs, and not 
tmb> on the console... so go figure :-(

that is really strange.  Can you try a serial console?
I use xfs in one of my machines and it is working well.
/me sees reinstalling yet again :p

tmb> When I get home tonight I'll try to boot an up kernel, to see if it's smp 
tmb> related... I'll also try to figure out what's wrong... but for now I just 
tmb> wanted to give preliminary info...

tmb> as for now I reverted to an older kernel of my own:
tmb> 2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdksmp

tmb> and it works as it should...

Humm, that is _very_ strange.  xfs should work as expected.

/me stress test an xfs partition in its SMP machine.

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[Cooker] [Bug 4960] [xawtv] unable to unmute audio

[[jkeller]]

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4960





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Peopened to fix null status (per email from Udo Rader on list). Udo or 
Thierry, of course, have final say on the status (closed, assigned, 
needinfo, ...).

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stopping it and starting it again gives audio again.

some stats (from lspcidrake):

bttv: Brooktree Corporation|Bt878 [MULTIMEDIA_VIDEO]
btaudio : Brooktree Corporation|Bt878 [MULTIMEDIA_OTHER]
snd-cmipci  : C-Media Electronics Inc|CM8738 [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]

[Cooker] [Bug 6242] [mozilla] Problem with buttons (HTML forms) under KDE after latest 9.2 update

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http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6242





--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-10-28 16:00 ---
Hmm, are you 100% sure it was working after 9.2 install ?

What did you update exactly ?

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I am running a Mandrake 9.2 with latest update.

I noticed that after updating my system with the official 9.2 update, it looks
like impossible to use buttons (HTML forms) with mozilla under KDE: events look
ignored.
I did not notice any error message on the console. 

Note that I am running Mozilla without major problem under gnome (as another user).

 Daniel

[Cooker] possible kernel (xfs?) BUG in 9.2 kernels (10mdk/21mdk)

[Thomas Backlund]

I upgraded my firewall to 9.2 and got into a weird problem :-(

it's a dual p2-333 with 256mb of ram

Beforre it was happily running Cooker using ext3 on theese partitions:

/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 on / type xfs (rw)
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target2/lun0/part3 on /var type xfs (rw)
/dev/md/0 on /var/spool/squid type xfs (rw)
/dev/md/1 on /home type xfs (rw)

(md0 is RAID0, md1 is RAID1)

when I installed 9.2 as a clean install, but reformatted the partitions for 
xfs, I got theese problems...
I have tested the smp and secure kernels...

when the system is installed and has been running for I while...
it just seems locks up, and does not respond to any keyboard activities,
and the sad part is I don't have any errors to show ... not in logs, and not 
on the console... so go figure :-(

When I get home tonight I'll try to boot an up kernel, to see if it's smp 
related... I'll also try to figure out what's wrong... but for now I just 
wanted to give preliminary info...

as for now I reverted to an older kernel of my own:
2.4.22-0.5.2tmb_mdksmp

and it works as it should...
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Regards

Thomas

Re: [Cooker] can't rebuild emacs

[Thierry Vignaud]

jokerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

F> i'm trying to rebuild emacs and rpm -ba doesn't work
> it fails with the error 
> 
> LC_ALL=C ./temacs -batch -l loadup dump
> Loading loadup (source)...
> Using load-path (/home/fubar/rpm/BUILD/emacs-21.3/lisp)
> Loading byte-run...
> Loading subr...
> Loading version.el (source)...
> Loading widget...
> Loading custom...
> Loading emacs-lisp/backquote...
> Loading map-ynp...
> Loading env...
> Loading cus-start (source)...
> Wrong type argument: listp, [unset 0 custom-handle-all-keywords new-pass 
> rear-nonsticky margin inhibit-redisplay major-mode 0 env ...]
> make[1]: *** [emacs] Error 255
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/fubar/rpm/BUILD/emacs-21.3/build-nox/src'
> make: *** [src] Error 2
> error: Bad exit status from /home/fubar/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.55115 (%build)
> 
> 
> RPM build errors:
> Macro % has illegal name (%define)
> Bad exit status from /home/fubar/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.55115 (%build)
> error: Macro % has illegal name (%define)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPECS]$

works for me:

bash-2.05b$ rpm --rebuild /SRPMS/emacs-21.3-6mdk.src.rpm 
(...)
Finding  Provides: /usr/lib/rpm/filter.sh ' ' /usr/lib/rpm/find-provides
Using BuildRoot: /home/tv/rpm/tmp/emacs-root to search libs
Finding  Requires: /usr/lib/rpm/filter.sh ' ' /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires 
/home/tv/rpm/tmp/emacs-root i586
Provides: emacs-bin
Requires(interp): /bin/sh /bin/sh /bin/sh
Requires(rpmlib): rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) 
<= 3.0.4-1
Requires(post): /bin/sh
Requires(postun): /bin/sh
Requires: emacs = 21.3-6mdk /bin/sh libICE.so.6 libSM.so.6 libX11.so.6 libXaw3d.so.7 
libXext.so.6 libXmu.so.6 libXpm.so.4 libXt.so.6 libc.so.6 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) 
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3) libjpeg.so.62 libm.so.6 
libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) libncurses.so.5 libpng.so.3 libtiff.so.3 libungif.so.4 libz.so.1
Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files /home/tv/rpm/tmp/emacs-root
Wrote: /home/tv/rpm/RPMS/i586/emacs-21.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
Wrote: /home/tv/rpm/RPMS/i586/emacs-el-21.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
Wrote: /home/tv/rpm/RPMS/i586/emacs-leim-21.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
Wrote: /home/tv/rpm/RPMS/i586/emacs-nox-21.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
Wrote: /home/tv/rpm/RPMS/i586/emacs-X11-21.3-6mdk.i586.rpm
Executing(%clean): /bin/sh -e /home/tv/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.18681
+ umask 022
+ cd /home/tv/rpm/BUILD
+ cd emacs-21.3
+ rm -rf /home/tv/rpm/tmp/emacs-root
+ exit 0
Executing(--clean): /bin/sh -e /home/tv/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.18681
+ umask 022
+ cd /home/tv/rpm/BUILD
+ rm -rf emacs-21.3
+ exit 0