Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
Le lun 20/10/2003 à 09:47, John Allen a écrit : > On Monday 20 October 2003 03:35, Ron Stodden wrote: > > John Allen wrote: > > > Ron Stodden wrote: > > >> Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download > > >> edition installed jaffe for me ... > > > > > > You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub > > > > Really? There are no 9.2 unsupported-MandrakeClub items yet, and no > > j2* RPMs in the 9.1 unsupported-MandrakeClub tree. > > http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/8.2/i586/j2sdk-1.4.1_01-5mdk.i586.html The easiest way is to grab the latest version (1.4.2_01) directly from SUN website: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html Daniel
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Le dim 19/10/2003 à 16:59, guran a écrit : > Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie wants > to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: > 1)drivers for graphics > 2)drivers for sound > 3)drivers for java > 4)drivers for realplayer > 5)drivers for flash > > To my understanding Mdk has decided that these services should only be at grip > for users that buy packs from Mdk. So any user testing Mdk by downloading the > installation will only find obstacles forced on them by the economic > situation not because Mdk is difficult to use. > I think you may have a problem here. > > You could make a 'HOWTO' that explains this. Java, RealPlayer, flash, Nvidia drivers/plugins etc are not open source software, so one just cannot distribute them on freely available isos, while Mandrakesoft can sign an agreement with their vendor to distribute them in their distribution. And this is true for any Linux distribution. Daniel
Re: [Cooker] Downloading 9.2 - "Five stars"
W liście z śro, 15-10-2003, godz. 23:08, Pierre Jarillon pisze: > Le Mercredi 15 Octobre 2003 21:51, Jan Ciger a écrit : > > You have to follow the stats given by torrent client to find out when it > > is finished. The size will be always correct, even though only 1% was > > downloaded. > > That's not fully true, BitTorrent seems allocates size by chunks it's because the things have changed a bit lately (2003-09-24): 'New in 3.3: * Files now only get allocated as they're downloaded and don't fragment the hard drive' [ http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/download.html ] -- Smakowałam ciepła wielu gwiazd i wszystkie były słodkie
[Cooker] [Bug 5984] [Hardware] SBLive! audio corruption
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-14-10 20:37 --- - microphone is muted with no effect on things - kmix reports volume turned all the way up - "audio being output in one piece" means that there is no corruption to the audio that should be playing itself, albeit at reduced volume levels and behind a wall of white sound. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: After install of 9.2rc2, the audio does not play correctly, leaving the user blown away with white noise instead of the proper sounds.
[Cooker] [Bug 5984] [Hardware] SBLive! audio corruption
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-14-10 18:16 --- let's be a bit clearer: - the audio is being output in one piece - the audio level is much reduced than it should be - white noise covers the true audio making it nearly inaudible the instructions on http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/HardwareHowTo#Sound_Cards did not clear the problem for me -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: After install of 9.2rc2, the audio does not play correctly, leaving the user blown away with white noise instead of the proper sounds.
Re: [Cooker] [GNOME] Recurrent problem with gnome preferences daemon
Le ven 10/10/2003 à 15:06, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : > I've got this problem severals times, sometimes it disappears magically, > sometimes i have to delete all my gnome settings ( ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfd, > ~/.gnome ). > > Situation : > - current cooker ( 2.4.22-10mdk, GConf-1.0.9-11mdk, GConf2-2.4.0.1-1mdk, > nfs-utils-clients-1.0.5-1mdk, kdebase-3.1.92-2mdk, metacity-2.6.1-1mdk ) > - home on a NFS share ( vers=3, tcp, rsize=8192, wsize=8192, nosuid, > soft, intr, timeo=600 ) > - NFS server = mdk 9.1 + soft RAID1 ( ext3 partition ) > > One more time again, I'm facing this "Gnome n'a pu démarrer le démon de > préférence. Pour l'instant il sera désactivé et vous n'aurez pas accès > aux thèmes, sons ... ) -> Gnome was unable to launch gnome preferences > daemon. > So i don't have theme ( ugly default one for style, color, theme, > nautilus icons ), can't launch some applets ( windows list/systray, > desktop switcher ) because of an OAFIID cryptic error ... > > > And i have nothing interesting in ~/.xsession-errors > This is not a locking problem on my nfs partition as I don't have the > message saying that gconfd had problem locking some files. > > It's incredible how easily I can break gnome ( nfs bugs -> gconfd > locking problem whereas kde works like a charm, -> gnome > preferences daemon not starting ). > So am I the only one ? someone know a better way to solve this problem > than deleting all my prefs ... ? I am facing exactly the same problem at work, with the same configuration (/home directory mounted by NFS). I reboot the computer instead of removing all the preference files and then it works fine: I was not used to do that since I left windows some years ago :-( Daniel
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Taken from OOo web site:
8<--
OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 Fixes
OpenOffice.ortg 1.1.0 (1.1) incorporates all the fixes listed below.
Below is the list of issues fixed in RC4. For discussion on these fixes,
please look at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for September.
* 18749 Symbol font doesn't print. Default font is printed instead
* 19473 Installation shows squares instead of Chinese characters
RC 4 Fixes
16314 quickstarter causes freeze on log off with multiple users.
x Investigation of several translation issues
4766,18425,18307,18733 installguides to be include - in progress
for English, German, French, Italian
1 missing help topics (chart, installation, database func.,
common help topics)
1 fix to 1.1.0 in install.sh
15100 mail merge - committed
16909 deadlock in example text document
17582 chines fonts displayed as squares - partly fixed in rc3
18343 german readme
18385 upgrade installation crashes
18447 combobox disaprears
18497 hang while open sample issue text document
18586 l10n merge issue
18640 wrong page at presentation start
18641 modified flags set under certain conditions
18670 wrong call to JNI
18744 bibliographic database lost after update of 1.0.3
internal 109606 text disappears in presentation
internal 111716 loop
internal 111902 crash pressing edit button in RO document
internal 111651 print monitor
internal 111622 crash inserting OLE object in Math.
internal 111893, 111889 may be related to 17582, committed to
rc4
internal 112020 Update still override some user settings (*bau)
-8<
My understanding is that most fixes are in RC4, and only two bugs
were fixed in RC5 (==final).
In OO mailing list, one can find some developers complain about the
serious bugs left in the final release ...:-=)
Daniel
Le sam 04/10/2003 à 20:29, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit :
> Could the updated OOo 1.1.0 be relaesed as an update?
> I am sure they fixed a number of things between RC 4 and the 1.1.0
>
> best regards
> keld
>
> On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:26:24AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
> > I would fully support to rename the packages if still possible. Just get
> > the RC out of the package names (rpm names). It is still named RC4 in
> > cooker
> > Tom
> >
> > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 21:25, Rob wrote:
> > > On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote:
> > > > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are
> > > > > identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's
> > > > > RC5.
> > > > Allas. CD's are read-only.
> > >
> > > The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the
> > > torrents ;)
> > >
> > > Rob
> >
>
>
Re: [Cooker] And next ?
Le dim 28/09/2003 à 21:38, Spencer a écrit : > Warly wrote: > > >It may be a good idea, before cooker opens again, to take these days to > >have some brainstorm. > > > >May you give your opinion on : > > > >- What was wrong in 9.2 development process? > > > Too many major bugs remained in the betas before rc's were started. > IMHO, betas need to start a little bit earlier with priority given to > the installer, the various means of installing and urpmi. One of the > major problems was mirrors, as most everyone will agreed, and anything > that can be done to improve that situation should be done. I do like the way it is done for Eclipse: http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_plan_3_0.html A milestone could be built every 6 weeks. isos could be provided for each milestone. Daniel
[Cooker] [Bug 5984] [Hardware] New: SBLive! audio corruption
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5984 Product: Hardware Component: Hardware Summary: SBLive! audio corruption Product: Hardware Version: 9.2-0.7mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Hardware AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After install of 9.2rc2, the audio does not play correctly, leaving the user blown away with white noise instead of the proper sounds. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Proposition for rpmdrake
--- François Pons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Le ven 29/11/2002 à 11:03, daniel beck a écrit : > > oh, and an other nice feature for urpmi that would > be > > (rember the libpng2 to libpng3 transition) . Every > > time i install a new rpm, all the files which are > > overwritten are stored in /var/cache/urpmi/temp or > > something like that. so I could do so : > > > > there is already A2.0 > > urpmi --safe A2.1.rpm > > > > urpmi overwrites some files from A2.0 but store > them > > in /var/cache/urpmi/temp > > > > the programm A2.1 brings everyting so I want to > have > > my old configuration again. so I do : > > > > urpmi --recover > > > > and everything is just like befor the update of > A2.0. > > That would give really a safe impression to the > user ! > > You can do urpmi A2.0 (if it still exists of course) > and you get back > the package... > but old package are allways deleted in cooker. and .. .then I install a *lot* of software, and something break, I dont not know, what it was . so, an urpmi --safe would be nice. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] Re: Proposition for rpmdrake
oh, and an other nice feature for urpmi that would be (rember the libpng2 to libpng3 transition) . Every time i install a new rpm, all the files which are overwritten are stored in /var/cache/urpmi/temp or something like that. so I could do so : there is already A2.0 urpmi --safe A2.1.rpm urpmi overwrites some files from A2.0 but store them in /var/cache/urpmi/temp the programm A2.1 brings everyting so I want to have my old configuration again. so I do : urpmi --recover and everything is just like befor the update of A2.0. That would give really a safe impression to the user ! daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] Propositions for rpmdrake
> > - the pop pups from rpmdrake are after all not > *so* > > bad, and they are in fact easy to understand. but, > > then downloading softare from plf, there are > allways > > lots of poppups, and I must stay in front of the > > monitor, and allway click : yes, I want to install > (I > > know, its because I didn't downloaded the key...). > But > > would be nice to have a : " yes for all" button. > > Popups? What if you were to use the command line? Is > that simpler for > you? yes .. I also normaly use the commandline, but sometimes I want to use rpmdrake because its easier to select every package I want. And its really annoying allways to click : yes, I really want to install that package. sometime I install something like 200 package, and it would be nice if then I could go out .. .and when I come back, everything is installed. > > > - then I update software from cooker, and one > package > > failed, I have to start all again. Ok, its nice > that > > the package are stored in /var/cache, but it would > be > > even nicer if, then i download 2 softare A and B, > and > > the download from software A fails, Software B has > > nothing to do with A (no dependencies), that urpmi > > installs Software A > > Yes, I agree very strongly with this statement. yes ... that must be done ... > > > - I want to be able to acces with urpmi mirrors, > which > > are protected with username/passwort (or does that > > already work?) > > I use > > urpmi.addmedia > username:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [with HDLIST>] > > to add it to the list of available media. oh .,.. good, I didnt know that :-). again, urpmi is *really* nice. ;-) __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] Propositions for rpmdrake
rpmdrake and urpmi is really a nice add value. Its allmost the main raison, why I use mandrake . There are a few things, I thing, that could be nice to implement - something like : silence donwload and install. A lot of people use cooker, I remember a poll on mandrake forum where something like 40 % from the people use cooker. So, everytime, I update my system, but it takes all memory and brandwith , and I can do nothing else :-/ . Could also be nice to update the system with a deamon. Was just a little idea - the pop pups from rpmdrake are after all not *so* bad, and they are in fact easy to understand. but, then downloading softare from plf, there are allways lots of poppups, and I must stay in front of the monitor, and allway click : yes, I want to install (I know, its because I didn't downloaded the key...). But would be nice to have a : " yes for all" button. - then I update software from cooker, and one package failed, I have to start all again. Ok, its nice that the package are stored in /var/cache, but it would be even nicer if, then i download 2 softare A and B, and the download from software A fails, Software B has nothing to do with A (no dependencies), that urpmi installs Software A - I want to be able to acces with urpmi mirrors, which are protected with username/passwort (or does that already work?) ook, bye ! daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] Descritpion from OpenDX
from the description of OpenDX "OpenDX is a uniquely powerful, full-featured software package for the visualization of scientific, engineering and analytical data: Its open system design is built on a standard interface environments. And its sophisticated data model provides users with great flexibility in creating visualizations. With OpenDX, you can create the visualizations you want to create." ^^ is it really, what should be written here (see last line) ??? lol __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] Problem with evolution
--- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > daniel beck wrote: > > I have got a problem with evolution. I have full > > cooker on my pc, and evolution 1.2.0-3 mdk. > > I allways read my mail I got from the university, > they > > are stored on a pop-server, and I had no problem > > before. I cliked on "let mail on server", because > I > > also got a mail programm at university, there want > to > > also keep an archive of all my mails. > > But I dont know why, evolution now allways > downloads > > *every* mails from the server, not only the > unreads. I > > delete the Evolution directoty, because I thought > that > > was a compability problem between new and old > config > > files... but the matter is still the same. > > Thats wrong there ? > > You could actually read mail??? > > I tried evo just to see if IMAP support had > improved, but I could not > get it to list folders on the server. It did try and > connect (since it > warned me about our SSL cert). > > LDAP seems to be in a similar state ... > > All this worked (though no where near the > performance I get with > mozilla) in 1.0.8 > Yes, I can read mails, there is no matter for that. (I deleted the Evolution directory). the matter is that it downloads allways all mail from the mail server, and thats really annoying, because I have something like 200 mails :-/ . is that a mandrake packaging problem, or is something wrong with evolution? daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] Problem with evolution
I have got a problem with evolution. I have full cooker on my pc, and evolution 1.2.0-3 mdk. I allways read my mail I got from the university, they are stored on a pop-server, and I had no problem before. I cliked on "let mail on server", because I also got a mail programm at university, there want to also keep an archive of all my mails. But I dont know why, evolution now allways downloads *every* mails from the server, not only the unreads. I delete the Evolution directoty, because I thought that was a compability problem between new and old config files... but the matter is still the same. Thats wrong there ? ---> Daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] cdrom icons under gnome
hello ! I'm using cooker. Everytime I start gnome again, it adds new icons for my 2 cdrom-drives, my zip-drive, and for /dev/hda4. I now hve already 9 icons from all on my desktop ! 36 icons at all! and I also cant delete them thx Daniel p.s. : but cooker is already better as mandrake 9.0 :-) __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] canon bjc 220
DrakX doesn't autodetect my canon bjc 220 printer(I use 9.0 beta 3), that wasn't so in precedent version of mandrake (8.2 and prior). and than I manualy select the cups driver for bjc 210 sp, the output is really ugly :-(. Any idea what driver I need ??? daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] Re: [cooker] sound in quake3
On Friday 16 August 2002 05:42 am, daniel beck wrote: > hello ! > > I installed beta 3. I also installed the GForce Driver > from Nvidia. And I installed quake3 point release, > everything I need for my workstation :-). yes, and all > works great, withouth that I have no sound in q3 .the > sound works well for everything else (i have a es1371 > sound card, audi-pci-97, from ensonique). can someone > help me ??? Are you using KDE? You may have to kill or disable the KDE Sound Server (artsd). Games like Q3 don't like it. -- -- Igor no I use gnome. I disabled esd . daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] [cooker] sound in quake3
hello ! I installed beta 3. I also installed the GForce Driver from Nvidia. And I installed quake3 point release, everything I need for my workstation :-). yes, and all works great, withouth that I have no sound in q3 .the sound works well for everything else (i have a es1371 sound card, audi-pci-97, from ensonique). can someone help me ??? daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] gcc 2.96 || gcc3.2
the ELX linux distribution has got a toll, to choose which compiler to set as default : gcc 2.96 or gcc3 . I like that . is there a possibility to do that in mandrake ? because I saw that both compiler a included (because of the mozilla-java problem I think). daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] rpmdrake
ho ... I don't like the new rpmdrake. it looks like it doesn't have a lot of funcionnality. Where can I see that a package is already installed, and that there is an update avalaible ? (because a lot of people use cooker, something like 30% ...rpmdrake is not only for the package that u find on Mandrake cd-rom) daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de
[Cooker] freeamp and zinf
hi do we really need freeamp ? I thought freeamp and Zinf are the same ... but zimf is less buggy (they share the same codebase, but the project freeamp isn't active anymore ... look at this on the freamp homepage : http://www.freeamp.org/index.html?mode=download) daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Sie brauchen mehr Speicher für Ihre E-Mails? - http://premiummail.yahoo.de
[Cooker] xmms-alsa
hi, xmms (1.2.7-8mdk) works fine, but if I install xmms-alsa 0.9.2 from cooker (I use cooker, not Mandrake 8.2), then I got an errror : xmms: simple.c:1070: snd_mixer_selem_get_id: Assertion `elem && id' failed. without that plugin, xmms works well . daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! präsentiert als offizieller Sponsor das Fußball-Highlight des Jahres: - http://www.FIFAworldcup.com
[Cooker] nvidia driver + cooker
hi ! I use cooker with the standart kernel 2.18-19. I wanted to install the driver from nvidia, but there is no way installing the src.rpm. there is also no way compiling the NVIDIA_kernel.tar.gz.I always got : "make install You appear to be compiling the NVdriver kernel module with a compiler different from the one that was used to compile the running kernel. This may be perfectly fine, but there are cases where this can lead to unexpected behaviour and system crashes. If you know what you are doing and want to override this check, you can do so by setting IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH. In any other case, set the CC environment variable to the name of the compiler that was used to compile the kernel. *** Failed cc sanity check. Bailing out! *** make: *** [gcc-check] Fehler 1" I use gcc3.1.1-0.2, and I thought the kernel was compiled with gcc3. Can someone perhaps package an rpm file for nvidia(plf perhabs?) daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Sie brauchen mehr Speicher für Ihre E-Mails? - http://premiummail.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] Say when it's safe again . .
--- Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Cooker is changing so rapidly, it's hard to tell > when it's safe to try > an install. You guys work awfully FAST! > > I think this is great - but as previously suggested > - there should be a > method to let people know when it is SAFE to try and > install Cooker and > when to STAY AWAY. > > This would save some precious time . . . > > Thanks, > R.Fox yes, why not ?? something like at www.mozillanews.org, there peoples can vote how stable cooker is ... so there is no work for mandrake developper :-) . It woul'd be nice, because a lot of people only use cooker (I do :-) ) daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! präsentiert als offizieller Sponsor das Fußball-Highlight des Jahres: - http://www.FIFAworldcup.com
Re: One more PLF package? RE: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken
--- Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Wed, 29 May 2002, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: > > > So you mean it _is_ possible to build Java with > 3.1? > > Yes. > > > Then what the hell, let's release PLF package for > it. > > No, you can't. > > why ? http://ranger.dnsalias.com/mandrake/mandrake8.2/mozilla/ I take my mozilla there, and it works. I'm using cooker. don't now, perhabs there is something I don't understand...(is it after no possible to compile something anymore ?or what ?) the other option is that everyone writes an email to sun ... Richard Stallman would make so :-) __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! präsentiert als offizieller Sponsor das Fußball-Highlight des Jahres: - http://www.FIFAworldcup.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] libggi-2.0.1-4mdk
lol . there is also sneX9 from PLF (http://plf.zarb.org/ ), which requires libsvga, and Mplayer which requires libggi. ... it's bad ,becauce Mplayer is an good application. I know, u have nothing directly to do wth PLF, but a lot of people (me!) also uses their packages . > Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > IIRC heros-0.19-1mdk, libggi-2.0.1-3mdk, > libggi2-2.0.1-3mdk, > > libggi2-devel-2.0.1-3mdk, vlc-ggi-0.3.1-4mdk are > the only pkgs currently > > in cooker that require svgalib > > no more :) > but still jmcee in main :( > -- > Yves Duret > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > piouk toujours et meme apres ! > > __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Sie brauchen mehr Speicher für Ihre E-Mails? - http://premiummail.yahoo.de
[Cooker] Error Initializing NVdriver
I just updated to the cooker version of everything, including the enterprise kernel,and now I am unable to start X with my nVidia drivers. I removed the old RPM's & rebuilt & installed new ones. The module NVdriver is loaded, but X says that it cannon initialize module NVdriver. This worked before the update.
RE: [Cooker] mouse under virtual console
> > > > I've got an PS/2 intellimouse, and since > > > mandrake8.1, > > > > and also in 8.2 beta1 and beta2, it doesnt > work in > > > the > > > > wirtual console. > > > > > > It does. > > no, it doesn't!how can I find something to send, > to > > show it ?my mouse works very well under X, but not > > under console.is there a configuration file for > gpm ? > > Please explain *exactly* what you do from the > beginning > > - you boot into level 3 or 5? > - how you access virtual console? Switch from X or > boot into 3 and > login? > - of course, /etc/sysconfig/mouse as well. > first I skip to console, with atrl+alt+F1 I don't know I wich level boot. I let everything, as it was then installing mandrake. before.know I've got again mandrake 9.1, becaause my soundcard(es1371) doesnt't work in beta 3.but in mandrake 8.1, I ve got the same matter, and I've to log on first as root, kill gpm, an then logout and log as "normal" user. I sent you my /etc/sysconfig/mouse, perhabs u better know, what is happening.(BUT mouse works well under X, my mouse is a microsoft intellimouse PS/2). Oh, and my installation wen't well, there was no problem, so I really don't know, why it behaves so :-( thx daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de mouse Description: mouse
RE: [Cooker] mouse under virtual console
--- Borsenkow Andrej <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > I've got an PS/2 intellimouse, and since > mandrake8.1, > > and also in 8.2 beta1 and beta2, it doesnt work in > the > > wirtual console. > > It does. no, it doesn't!how can I find something to send, to show it ?my mouse works very well under X, but not under console.is there a configuration file for gpm ? mfG daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
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I've got an PS/2 intellimouse, and since mandrake8.1, and also in 8.2 beta1 and beta2, it doesnt work in the wirtual console. under X everything is ok, but then moving the mouse in the virtual console, it doesn't at all act as I want it :-( would be nice to fix it. perhaps someone know, how I can change it (configuring gpm I think ...) thanks ! daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] my ensonique 97 card
how can I try alsa driver ? how to do it ? daniel Ainsi parlait daniel beck : > [..] > > > Not an excuse for the driver not working, but it > > > _is_ a possible solution. (-: > > > > I don't want buing a new card ! I want to know how > to > > make it working ! > Have you tried alsa drivers ? > -- > Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPG key > http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html > __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] my ensonique 97 card
--- Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Friday 01 February 2002 23:55, daniel beck wrote: > > I downloaded the new mandrake 8.2 bea, and > everything > > work fine for me, without my ensonique 97 card. > > The ES1371 sucks anyway, I replaced mine with a > Yamaha-based (YMF744B) card > (AOpen AW744) and never looked back. It uses much > less CPU than the > Ensonique, never locks up, produces cleaner sound, > and has an extra 2 > channels if I ever want them. > > Not an excuse for the driver not working, but it > _is_ a possible solution. (-: > I don't want buing a new card ! I want to know how to make it working ! I know, that it doesnt also work under suse 7.2 . I would be nice if it works under mandrake. I think lot of people has this kind of card, and I looked, there are lot of people with problem with this card.But I think, there is a module missing , or something, because I was not able to compile the kernel to work woth it, I got this : rivers/sound/sounddrivers.o: In function `es1371_probe': drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o(.text+0x5ec6): undefined reference to `gameport_register_port' drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o: In function `es1371_remove': drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o(.text+0x5fda): undefined reference to `gameport_unregister_port' make[1]: *** [kallsyms] Fehler 1 make[1]: Verlassen des Verzeichnisses Verzeichnis »/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-10mdk« make: *** [vmlinux] Fehler 2 I don't know what to do more. first I thought the Mandrake Hardware-installation didn't work well, but it also doesn't work with sndconfig ... :-( . I really don't know there is the matter ! Daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] my ensonique 97 card
when I start kde, there's a window saying : cannot open device /dev/dsp lspcidrake says : agpgart : VIA Technologies|VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] es1371 : Ensoniq|ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 snd-card-ymfpci : Yamaha Corporation|YMF-744B [DS-1S Audio Controller] Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic): nVidia Corporation|NV11 (Geforce2 MX) unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Virtual|Hub [] I've got 2 Souncards, and I only want usind the ensonique card thx for quick answer :-) Daniel > > I downloaded the new mandrake 8.2 bea, and > everything > > work fine for me, without my ensonique 97 card. > (iht > > was detected, but doesnt work!!) > > what's your problem : > > - xmms (or whatever you use) saying it cannot open > /dev/dsp ? > - module not loaded ? > - sound get played but nothing can be heard ? > - ... > > have you any usefull error message ? what lspcidrake > report for your card: alsa > or oss module ? try the other one if one doesn't > work, we can switch modules if > one works better that the other for your card. > > > I don't know what's the matter, I hope it will be > fix for mandrake 8.2 > > final. oh, yeah, one thing : my card worked in > Mandrake 8.1, but the volume > > was to low ... so I didn't notice it. and I had > to adjust the sound EVERYTIME > > I started linux ... because everytime I reboot > linux, the sound was again not > > audible :-(( (ok, I know, my english is bad! and > I'm newbye, perhaps I did > > mistakes by configuring my card.) > > if you enable *both* sound & alsa service, the sound > level should be saved on > halt, restored on boot. > > __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
Re: [Cooker] my ensonique 97 card
> > I downloaded the new mandrake 8.2 bea, and > everything > > work fine for me, without my ensonique 97 card. > (iht > > was detected, but doesnt work!!) > > what's your problem : > > - xmms (or whatever you use) saying it cannot open > /dev/dsp ? > - module not loaded ? > - sound get played but nothing can be heard ? > - ... when I start kde, there's a window saying : cannot open device /dev/dsp agpgart : VIA Technologies|VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] es1371 : Ensoniq|ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] 8139too : Realtek|RTL-8139 snd-card-ymfpci : Yamaha Corporation|YMF-744B [DS-1S Audio Controller] Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic): nVidia Corporation|NV11 (Geforce2 MX) unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Virtual|Hub [] I've got 2 Souncards, and I only want usind the ensonique card thx for quick answer :-) Daniel > > have you any usefull error message ? what lspcidrake > report for your card: alsa > or oss module ? try the other one if one doesn't > work, we can switch modules if > one works better that the other for your card. > > > I don't know what's the matter, I hope it will be > fix for mandrake 8.2 > > final. oh, yeah, one thing : my card worked in > Mandrake 8.1, but the volume > > was to low ... so I didn't notice it. and I had > to adjust the sound EVERYTIME > > I started linux ... because everytime I reboot > linux, the sound was again not > > audible :-(( (ok, I know, my english is bad! and > I'm newbye, perhaps I did > > mistakes by configuring my card.) > > if you enable *both* sound & alsa service, the sound > level should be saved on > halt, restored on boot. > > __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
[Cooker] my ensonique 97 card
I downloaded the new mandrake 8.2 bea, and everything work fine for me, without my ensonique 97 card. (iht was detected, but doesnt work!!) I tried compliling myself the kernel, and I got this : drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o: In function `es1371_probe': drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o(.text+0x5ec6): undefined reference to `gameport_register_port' drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o: In function `es1371_remove': drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o(.text+0x5fda): undefined reference to `gameport_unregister_port' make[1]: *** [kallsyms] Fehler 1 make[1]: Verlassen des Verzeichnisses Verzeichnis */usr/src/linux-2.4.17-10mdk* make: *** [vmlinux] Fehler 2 I don't know what's the matter, I hope it will be fix for mandrake 8.2 final. oh, yeah, one thing : my card worked in Mandrake 8.1, but the volume was to low ... so I didn't notice it. and I had to adjust the sound EVERYTIME I started linux ... because everytime I reboot linux, the sound was again not audible :-(( (ok, I know, my english is bad! and I'm newbye, perhaps I did mistakes by configuring my card.) mfG Daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
[Cooker] my Ensonique 97 card
Hi ! I downloaded the new mandrake 8.2 beta , and everyting (CD-Burner, T-DSL connection,Zip-drive...) worked well for me, without my soundcard. I've got a Ensonique 97 based card. Mandake detected the card, but It doesn't work. So I tried to compile the kernel my self, and I got this : drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o: In function `es1371_probe': drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o(.text+0x5ec6): undefined reference to `gameport_register_port' drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o: In function `es1371_remove': drivers/sound/sounddrivers.o(.text+0x5fda): undefined reference to `gameport_unregister_port' make[1]: *** [kallsyms] Fehler 1 make[1]: Verlassen des Verzeichnisses Verzeichnis »/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-10mdk« make: *** [vmlinux] Fehler 2 So I don't know what is the matter, I tried everything. The sound card worked on Mandrake 8.1, but you couldn't hear it : I had always to us kmixer (at EVERY start) of kde, to fix it. after I found, that using aumix fix this problem. but It would be nice to set the volume (so as in suse) at the installation. Or u have to set the volume from Ensonique cards higher . :-) I know my english is bad ! and im a newbie! so don't be to strong ! mfG Daniel * Universität des Saarlandes Lehrstuhl Pr. Dr. Smolka Saarbrücken * __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Ihre E-Mail noch individueller? - http://domains.yahoo.de
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[Cooker] glibc-2.2.4-2mdk--memcpy reads from destination.
Moi! I'm one of the upstream developers of the audio editor glame. We've received bug reports from a Mandrake user indicating segfaults in code that looks completely sane and works fine on other distributions. Now, we believe we've tracked it down to the libc Mandrake uses, specifically the version of memcpy: Dump of assembler code for function memcpy: 0x888e0 : push %edi 0x888e1 : push %esi 0x888e2 : mov0xc(%esp,1),%edi 0x888e6 : mov0x10(%esp,1),%esi 0x888ea :mov0x14(%esp,1),%ecx src is in esi, dest in edi. ecx contains the length. 0x888ee :mov%edi,%eax 0x888f0 :cld 0x888f1 :cmp$0x20,%ecx 0x888f4 :jbe0x8894c 0x888f6 :neg%eax 0x888f8 :and$0x3,%eax 0x888fb :sub%eax,%ecx 0x888fd :xchg %eax,%ecx 0x888fe :repz movsb %ds:(%esi),%es:(%edi) 0x88900 :mov%eax,%ecx 0x88902 :sub$0x20,%ecx 0x88905 :js 0x88945 0x88907 :mov(%edi),%eax 0x88909 :mov0x1c(%edi),%edx is where our user hits the segfaults. Indeed these two mov instructions look bogus. They read from the destination address, which will obviously bomb out if you memcpy to a region that's mmap()ed PROT_WRITE-only (as glame does quite often). 0x8890c :sub$0x20,%ecx 0x8890f :mov(%esi),%eax 0x88911 :mov0x4(%esi),%edx Here the results of the reads above are discarded. If there are side-effects that might qualify as valid optimisations, I fail to see them. To me, it looks much more like a bug in Mandrake's libc. 0x88914 :mov%eax,(%edi) 0x88916 :mov%edx,0x4(%edi) 0x88919 :mov0x8(%esi),%eax 0x8891c :mov0xc(%esi),%edx 0x8891f :mov%eax,0x8(%edi) 0x88922 :mov%edx,0xc(%edi) 0x88925 :mov0x10(%esi),%eax 0x88928 :mov0x14(%esi),%edx 0x8892b :mov%eax,0x10(%edi) 0x8892e :mov%edx,0x14(%edi) 0x88931 :mov0x18(%esi),%eax 0x88934 :mov0x1c(%esi),%edx 0x88937 :mov%eax,0x18(%edi) 0x8893a :mov%edx,0x1c(%edi) 0x8893d :lea0x20(%esi),%esi 0x88940 :lea0x20(%edi),%edi 0x88943 :jns0x88909 0x88945 : add$0x20,%ecx 0x88948 : mov0xc(%esp,1),%eax 0x8894c : repz movsb %ds:(%esi),%es:(%edi) 0x8894e : pop%esi 0x8894f : pop%edi 0x88950 : ret 0x88951 : jmp0x88960 Comments? Regards, Daniel. -- GNU/Linux Audio Mechanics - http://www.glame.de Cutting Edge Office - http://www.c10a02.de GPG Key ID 89BF7E2B - http://www.keyserver.net
Re: [Cooker] Too many unneeded packages
> Granted, gphoto2 is only 70k, libgphoto2 only 515k and efax is only some > 200k in size - but this adds up! Not just that, but from a security point of view, the less stuff installed, the less chance of being r00ted. After all, if a vulnerability is later found in a package you don't even use, a local or remote exploit won't make you a happy camper. However, a reported vulnerability for a package you do NOT have installed can simply be ignored by you. Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] Whois
> Terrible Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Friday 27 April 2001 22:22, you wrote: > > > bash: whois: command not found > > > What happened to whois? > > > > take that back, you're right it is gone :( > > (chmou@no)[~]-% urpmf bin/whois > fwhois:/usr/bin/whois I recommend getting whois from http://www.linux.it/~md/software/ http://www.linux.it/~md/software/whois_4.5.6.tar.gz It will automatically grab the proper whois server based on country code, and then pull up the record. Works great ! Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] rebuilding the kernel rpm for a athlon based system...
I had to modify his directions, but i kinda got it to work...It's still insisting on building a .i686 rpm not a .athlon RPM I figured out how to force a .athlon RPM, but when I go to install it, I get "incompatable architecture"... ??? I got a Socket A 1GHz Thunderbird, if that's not a Athlon, I don't know what is...lol Anyhow, can someone jump in and help [us] out? Is Mandrake not Athlon savvy yet or ?? Why is my system a i686 instead of a "Athlon"??? And, before someone goes jumping my back about "its the same thing" go look in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS and you'll see a "athlon" directory and a "i686" directory... Why the Athlon directory then?? TIA Daniel McKee - Original Message - From: "michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] rebuilding the kernel rpm for a athlon based system... > root wrote: > > Hi, someone about a week ago posted some directions on how to rebuild the > > kernel srpm to be optimized for a athlon cpu...can you please repost the > > directions??? TIA > > > > Daniel McKee > i followed it verbatim and it didn't work for me...:-( > -- > pax > -m- >
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Re: [Cooker] network script has error
I also had the same error... It had to do with the network, not mount. (-e invalid option). What I had to do to fix it, was to manually go into my /etc/init.d/network and search for the "-e" and change it to a "-n". Now I don't get that annoying error when it says "starting network". One of the upgrades of initscripts or sysctl (which is what the real error is coming from, the network init.d script is calling "sysctl -e -p ...blahblahblah", you have to change it to"sysctl -n -p blahblahblah") changed the sysctl command, but didn't update the script, so it would give a constant error on bootup Hope this helps... Daniel McKee - Original Message - From: "Chmouel Boudjnah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] network script has error > OS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hello, > > > > The /etc/init.d/network script from initscripts-5.82-4mdk reports > > "error: Unknown parameter '-e'" > > update your mount rpm : > > (chmou@giants)[~]-% ch -2 $(rpm -qf /sbin/swapon) > * Wed Apr 11 2001 Francis Galiegue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.11b-5mdk > > - Fixed ia64 patch (ghibosuckshardonthisoneshouldcheckwhathesdoing) > > * Mon Apr 09 2001 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.11b-4mdk > > - Add RH patch for swapon to add option -e. > > > > -- > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > --Chmouel >
Re: [Cooker] RpmDrake and MandrakeUpdate
Thanks :-) OK. I tried to do a urpmi.update, and this is what I got; [root@paradox /root]# urpmi.update the entry to update is missing (one of ) [root@paradox /root] I am really confused now... Daniel On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Paul Giordano wrote: > Don't panic (that's a maxim in this environment!) > > First run a urpmi.update and make sure that it runs OK and all the files > come down. Sometimes if you run in the middle of an update to the mirror you > get out of sync, or you only get partial files. > > If that's all OK try the urpmi again, and see what happens. I (and others) > have seen several issues, most notably in my case Bastille installs a > firewall that causes FTP issues under the covers. I've gotten by that, but > the newer 2.4.3 kernels seem to have issues as well - I'm trying to narrow > that down today. > > You can run tcpdump and see the FTP's happen behind the scenes to see if > you're experiencing what I am - run > "tcpdump -s 0 -x -X -p port 21 or port 20 | tee trace.out" > > In the resulting output you'll see a "connection reset by peer" message - at > least that's what I get. I'll update more when I know more, in the hope that > it'll help others. > > Regards, > Gio > - Original Message - > From: "Daniel McKee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "cooker mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:03 PM > Subject: [Cooker] RpmDrake and MandrakeUpdate > > > > Agh, everything is breaking on me :-/ > > > > MandrakeUpdate; > > Cannot open the compssUsers.flat file > > > > rpmdrake; > > Cannot open the compssUsers.flat file > > > > > > Is this related to my urpmi problem also or ??? Someone please help > > > > > > Daniel McKee > > > > > >
[Cooker] RpmDrake and MandrakeUpdate
Agh, everything is breaking on me :-/ MandrakeUpdate; Cannot open the compssUsers.flat file rpmdrake; Cannot open the compssUsers.flat file Is this related to my urpmi problem also or ??? Someone please help Daniel McKee
[Cooker] urpmi problem...
sometime since i upgraded the rpms, it is now no longer working...HELP [root@paradox /root]# urpmi everything already installed unable to read depslist file [/var/lib/urpmi/depslist.ordered] unable to read provides file [/var/lib/urpmi/provides] how do i recreate the depslist and the provides files thanks Daniel McKee
Re: [Cooker] compiling of kernel-2.4.3.src.rpm fails....
I had left a stale defconfig file and it was hosing up compiling the
16mdkThanks for the quick response :-)
On 11 Apr 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> Daniel McKee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Enabling option CONFIG_SMP
> > + OPT=CONFIG_SMP
> > + perl -e 'my $a = $ENV{OPT}; while (<>) {if (/^#\s+$a/ || /^$a=m/) {print
> > "$a=y\n"; next;} print;}'
> > + rm -f config.tmp
> > + EnableorDisable CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT disable arch/i386/defconfig
> > + feature=CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT
> > + type=disable
> > + file=arch/i386/defconfig
> > + grep -q CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT arch/i386/defconfig
> > + echo no CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT feature
> > no CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT feature
> > + return 1
> > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.20976 (%build)
> >
> > :-/ Anything I can do to get around this???
>
>
> patch 481 488 489 is applied ?
>
>
[Cooker] kernel 2.4.3-15mdk
Dunno what has changed since 13mdk, but i am having a few probs with 15mdk; 1) cannot compile progs that depend on headers from the kernel...I am getting bizzare errors (version.h)...This is what happens when i try to compile the NVIDIA_kernel.src.rpm; Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.73982 + umask 022 + cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD + cd NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-769 + make NVdriver cc -c -Wall -Wunknown-pragmas -Wno-multichar -O -D__KERNEL__ -DMODULE -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DUNIX -DLINUX -DNV4_HW -DNTRM -DRM20 -D_X86_=1 -Di386=1 -D_GNU_SOURCE -DRM_HEAPMGR -D_LOOSE_KERNEL_NAMES -DNV_MAJOR_VERSION=1 -DNV_MINOR_VERSION=0 -DNV_PATCHLEVEL=769 -I. -I/lib/modules/2.4.3-15mdk/build/include nv.c In file included from /lib/modules/2.4.3-15mdk/build/include/linux/module.h:261, from nv.c:53: /lib/modules/2.4.3-15mdk/build/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #elif after #else /lib/modules/2.4.3-15mdk/build/include/linux/version.h:2:1: the conditional began here In file included from nv.h:124, from nv.c:55: /lib/modules/2.4.3-15mdk/build/include/linux/version.h:6:2: #elif after #else /lib/modules/2.4.3-15mdk/build/include/linux/version.h:2:1: the conditional began here make: *** [nv.o] Error 1 Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.73982 (%build) 2) i had to copy the enterprise-i586.config to enterprise-i686.config... If I can put in a request for the kernels to come with all the .configs for the diff arch's to begin with, that would help...I duuno if just coping the file is good enough (?)... thanks Daniel McKee
[Cooker] kernel compile error
OOOooops...nevermind my last msg...i had a stale .config file :-) it's compiling in another window as i type ;-) Daniel McKee
[Cooker] compiling of kernel-2.4.3.src.rpm fails....
Enabling option CONFIG_SMP
+ OPT=CONFIG_SMP
+ perl -e 'my $a = $ENV{OPT}; while (<>) {if (/^#\s+$a/ || /^$a=m/) {print
"$a=y\n"; next;} print;}'
+ rm -f config.tmp
+ EnableorDisable CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT disable arch/i386/defconfig
+ feature=CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT
+ type=disable
+ file=arch/i386/defconfig
+ grep -q CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT arch/i386/defconfig
+ echo no CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT feature
no CONFIG_FBCON_LOGO_BOOT feature
+ return 1
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.20976 (%build)
:-/ Anything I can do to get around this???
Daniel McKee
Re: [Cooker] RC1 feedback
> First off in the slides that run during the package installation, The > wording needs to change. > "Thanks to have chosen Linux-Mandrake" Just doen't sound right. how > about "Thank you for chosing Linux-Mandrake" or something along those > lines. That should be... "Thank you for choosing Linux-Mandrake" ^ Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] latest perl & vi
Thanks for the timely response :-) Daniel McKee On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Pixel wrote: > Daniel McKee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Addendum: > > > > Anything that uses perl is now broken with the new perl rpm or srpm > > (perl5-5.601)...libperl.so: cannot load shared object file: No such file > > or directory... And, I recompiled/installed the perl rpms fine...go > > figure Though I did notice 1 thing, alot of the makefiles for the > > "modules?" of perl gave me exit errors of "1" instead of the normal "0" > > for "everything is ok" So I think alot of the "modules" for the > > libperl.so got damaged... I think we need a .2mdk of perl ASAP. > > sorry for the trouble. Anyway as a lot of pb arise with this new perl package, > i've put back the old one for a week. >
Re: [Cooker] latest perl & vi
Addendum: Anything that uses perl is now broken with the new perl rpm or srpm (perl5-5.601)...libperl.so: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory... And, I recompiled/installed the perl rpms fine...go figure Though I did notice 1 thing, alot of the makefiles for the "modules?" of perl gave me exit errors of "1" instead of the normal "0" for "everything is ok" So I think alot of the "modules" for the libperl.so got damaged... I think we need a .2mdk of perl ASAP. Daniel McKee On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: > > root@s186b:~# vi > vi: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot load shared > object file: No such file or directory > > > >
[Cooker] More on the perl problem....
Here is some of the output when i try to compile the srpm of apache-mod_perl; Creating Makefile in src/modules/perl Checking CGI.pm VERSION..I suggest upgrading from to 2.39+ Checking for LWP::UserAgent..failed Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ./lib /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at Makefile.PL line 1110. hope this might help..... Daniel McKee
Re: [Cooker] latest perl & vi
I am also having problems with the newest perl( perl5-5.601)seems to have broken alot of things :-/ I am getting ?LWP? errors and the libperl.so libary seems to be messed up (i recompiled the srpm of perl5-5.601). Daniel McKee On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote: > > root@s186b:~# vi > vi: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot load shared > object file: No such file or directory > > > >
[Cooker] help: ext2 superblock disk problems
It appears I screwed up a LM7.1 campus production server by trying to add a windows partition for backup purposes with PowerQuest Drive Image 3. At first I created ok at the end of the disk, and DI3 saw that but would not write the image file (of Linux partitions) to that C: drive. I copied the contents of /dev/hda6 (/var) and /dev/hda7 (var/lib) to a scratch partition (/dev/hda10). Then I used a win98 bootup disk, and Partition Magic 5 to delete those partitions as a merged FAT32 partition. When I tried to reboot, it complained about a kernel panic with no init= set, and suggested passing it to Grub/Lilo. I am able to win98 boot into it, however even the LM7.1 bootup disk did not work (same error as regular bootup). I booted up with Tom's Root Boot disk, and I can mount the windows partition, but none of the Linux ones. I tried to mount the /boot partition with... # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt EXT2-fs: 03:0a: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems. I then tried... # e2fsck /dev/hda1 Filesystem has unsupported features. The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct superblock. Try using a different superblock size such as:[-b 8193] Still no luck. Ok, so using PM5 after I initially created the partitions with 'fdisk' was not a smart move (in hindsight), but how do I fix that now ? Is there another utility that could help ? Other suggestions ? Thanks... Dan.
[Cooker] grpahical lilo boot now gone....
After updating my lilo (one from beta 3 cd) to the new rpm from the ftp mirror, i now lost my awesome graphical "linux-mandrake" bmp and now have a ugly text lilo boot loader :-( ARRRGH!!! HELP How do I get the grpahical loader back??? my lilo.conf still looks the same as it did before!!?!!?! Daniel McKee
[Cooker] Compiling kernel-2.4.3-8mdk.src.rpm on a Athlon Tbird
Hi all, got a stupid question... When I try to do a "rpm --rebuild kernel-2.4.3-8mdk.src.rpm" on my cooker system, i get a "config.i686" not found error, and sure enough there is a "config.i586" file in the sources directory (after the src rpm unpacks to compile), but no other config files How do I get it to compile without doing a "cp config.i586 config.i686" and tweaking some of the options (including the i686=y)... Also, isn't there a "Athlon" arch option? or is it just i686??? I see athlon listed in the makeconfig for the normal sources to the kernel How do I compile a Athlon optimized kernel from src rpm???
Re: [Cooker] Reasons FOR Mandrake...
On 06/04/2001 07:31:18 -0300 Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hi Cookers! > > In my company, we're going to install some Linux servers, which will be > used > mainly for Samba. > I'm going to be asked which distribution we should choose. Obviously I'd > want to take Mandrake and most certainly not SuSE which is also close to > being taken. Could somebody provide me with some "manager-compatible" > arguments that would back my suggestion? > Important arguments would be: > > - Acceptance in the USA > - Available support contracts > - Number of Mandrake knowledgable people > - Technical issues > - Standards conformance > - ?? > - Ease of use > - Anything else? > > Now, Ease of Use is clearly a big advantage of Mandrake. How about all > those other things? I've never tried SuSE, but I've used Slackware and RedHat for a long time. These are my favourite things about Mandrake: Security - it's got a secure default installation, and they issue security advisories (and the associated update) very often, more often than, say, RedHat. A "minor" feature but one that I like a lot is that it ships with postfix (of course, you can install postfix on any distro). Hardware support - it's the distro that recognizes most hardware. Easy installation - despite its bugs, the installer is the best I've seen. Good luck on your advocating! (I'm also trying to convince my boss to replace RH with Mandrake) -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] Apache Webserver....
Thanks again...I am just going to leave SSL uninstalled till it gets fixed "root" :-) forgot to set my name in pine...lol On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Lim Swee Tat wrote: > Hi root, > > I just tried running the apache with my previous configuration. When it > seg faulted, I reverted to an older copy of apache. > > Ciao > ST Lim > > On [Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:46:16AM SGT( > > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:46:16 -0700 (PDT) > > From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Lim Swee Tat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Apache Webserver > > > > Thanks, I figured out that ssl is blowing up Once I uninstalled that, > > Apache is working again... Is PHP broken also or ??? > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Lim Swee Tat wrote: > > > > > This is Houston calling root, do you copy... > > > > > > On [Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 12:30:51PM SGT( > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:30:51 -0400 (EDT) > > > > From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: [Cooker] Apache Webserver > > > > > > > > In beta 2 it worked fine (both httpd and httpd-perl)...Now with the beta > > > > 3, i get nothing from my port 80...only the httpd-perl server seems to be > > > > working (port 8080)...I just used the default install and have not > > > > modified the config files at all...Help, this is driving me $*#*# nuts > > > > > > > > > > Seems that the server is seg faulting badly > > > > > > --( After your lover has gone you will still have )-- > > > --( PEANUT BUTTER! )-- > > > Swee ( ) Tat > > > > > >
[Cooker] Re: [Xpert]Why do fonts rendered with xfs look SO bad !?
It may not be as much an issue with xfs as it is an issue with the
configuration associated with it. I use xfs-xtt (w/ Debian). Rumor has
it that xfs-xtt works much better, but I haven't been able to notice a
difference other than it doesn't crash while xfs did (could have been a
libc6 issue on this end, tho').
http://x-tt.dsl.gr.jp/
Make sure you're specifying TrueType fonts first in the `catalogue ='
section of the config file. Also, you may need to remake your
fonts.{dir,scale,alias}.
Cheers,
dtc
---
Dan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GPG key: www.cs.unc.edu/~chenda/pubkey.gpg.asc
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, OS wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have always used xfstt. Not being to sure what the current state of play
> with anti aliased fonts were I decided to switch it off and use xfs.
>
> (Could someone tell me if it matters which font server you use as to whether
> you will see anti aliasing ?)
>
> Boy, was I in for a shock ! I must be doing something wrong ! Surely ! Gone
> were all the elegantly rendered fonts, gone were the nice curvey fonts, gone
> was the sensible scaling. Replaced with spindly, jagged and 3/4 the size
> fonts. Except for what should have been bold letters. These all went to the
> other extreme, huge bloated squidgy letters that looked silly because the
> were still 3/4 the size they should have been !
>
> Has anyone else experienced this, and does anyone have a solution ?
Re: [Cooker] ssh, galeon, xephem and others.
On 05/03/2001 15:54:55 -0300 R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Xavier Bertou wrote: > > > In openssh 2.5.1p2, the value for Forward X11 is off by default, which > is > > the opposite of all the ssh clients I have used before. Is it was is > > expected ? > > Security-wise, not allowing X11 forwarding is better... if it is > wanted, users can always enable it > > Abel Cheung I agree that the default should always be the safest choice. -- []'s |.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] Aurora
On 08/03/2001 11:37:25 -0300 Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 06 March 2001 18:35, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > So sprach Andrej Borsenkow am Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:57:47AM +0300: > > > > > > Actually, I like framebuffer independently of Aurora - I cannot > > > > > > > > > > imagine how > > > > > > > > > > > could I live with these 80x24 ugly super-large characters on > 17" > > > > > > monitor before :-) > > > > > > > > > > So how do you change the number of lines you can scroll back and > > > > > review with > > > > > shift/pageup? > > > > > > > > Sorry? Can you elaborate? I could never scroll console, with or > > > > without frambuffer. > > > > > > SHIFT+PageUp / PageDown scrolls the console. > > > > > > > Hey, that would be really useful - but it doesn't do it on my box. > > > > Nor does it here. Hence I was a bit surprised. It works, but if you change consoles (Alt+F1, etc) it "forgets" the scroll buffer of the previous console. -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
[Cooker] MandrakeUpdate + RPM 4
I'm using LM 7.2 + a few cooker updates (including rpm-4.0-22mdk), and when I run MandrakeUpdate it says "MandrakeUpdate: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/librpm.so.0: undefined symbol: fdio" and bails out. How can I fix it? TIA -- []'s |.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] groups
Those numbers are probably not ¨magic numbers¨, but numbers >501 used by ´useradd´ or something... On 2001.03.27 16:58:30 -0300 andre wrote: > On 27 Mar 2001 15:09:26 +0200, RA wrote: > > I've got these groups after update to beta2: > > > > xgrp (504, with user xfs), ntools (505), ctools (506). > > > > But during install of xfs it is complaining of missing group xfs. > > And what is ntools, ctools? > > > > Who in there infinite wishdom decided to use those numbers. Mandrake > uses already a nonstandard way to asign the userid numbers. Starting > with 501 instead of the usuel 500 > > -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] compat libstdc++ ???
Well, a forced install did it, but I'd rather have a clean RPM database. On 2001.03.23 01:10:36 -0300 R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: > > :o > > I mean a forced INSTALL, not a forced upgrade! However the case for me > and > for you seems to be different -- I have libstdc++-2.95.2-xxx from LM 7.2, > and seems you have an earlier cooker version of libstdc++... it works > for me, but probably won't work for you... > > Abel Cheung > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Eric MC D wrote: > > > Indeed, many packages needs ibstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 . > > This one is available by libstdc++-2.96-0.33mdk, this is what I have > and > > it contains ibstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 ! > > An upgrade to version 2.10-2.96-0.45 is NOT possible because it DON'T > > contains ibstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 . > > Are you sure when forcing an update that file wouldn't be erased ?? > > Eric MC > > > > > > On Thursday 22 March 2001 20:20, you wrote: > > | This package needs a fix soon, but for now it seems to me that a "rpm > > | -ivh --force" works, since almost all c++ programs are linked to > > | "libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3" instead of "libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2". > > | > > | Abel Cheung > > | > > | On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > | > On Tuesday 20 March 2001 16:18, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > | > > Daniel Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > > > I want to upgrade my libstdc++ to the cooker version, > but a lot > > | > > > of my programs need libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 . Isn't there some > > | > > > compat-libstdc++ like there is for glibc? Thanks. > > | > > > > | > > You don't need to upgrade: since we now use the lib policy you > can > > | > > install the following package without removing the old one: > > | > > > > | > > libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.44mdk.i586.rpm > > | > > > | > Are you sure Guillaume? > > | > > > | > [19:39 > > | > root@penguin:/mnt/downloads/mandrake-devel/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS]# > rpm > > | > -ivh libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.45mdk.i586.rpm > > | > file /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 from install of > > | > libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package > > | > libstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk > > > > > > > -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] script to calculate when you last used a package
Really useful, thanks! On 2001.03.25 15:55:49 -0300 Brian J. Murrell wrote: > I found this really really useful script: > > http://www.student.nada.kth.se/~d92-jwa/code/pkgusage/pkgusage-1.0.3.tcl > > It tells you, for each rpm on your system, when you last accessed > (used) it. Great for hunting down and getting rid of cruft. > > Cheers, > b. -- []'s |.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] Before you release 8.0 - RPM very huge bug!!!
> > (1) We assume that when you want a server installed, that most probably > > means that you want it activated because you will use it ; > Not necessarily. The assumption was not 100% valid because the logic is: > when I install something it doesn't mean that I want it to run right > away. For example: I agree with all points tha Prana made. Services should only be started when they are PROPERLY and SECURELY configured. Let the user decide when that is, not the OS. I still especially suggest that an expert install means that we want the above before *we* are ready to let users use the service. Experts know hoe to start the services they want, let us do it. Just because we install a service, does not mean we are immediately ready to run it. People who have worked in government, universities, or large corporate companies will understand the politics involved, and how sometimes decisions move slowly. Yuch! Thanks... Dan. University of Calgary Library and Computing Services
Re: [Cooker] Mandrakefreq-i586 (what is it?)
On 2001.03.22 17:17:39 -0300 Con Kolivas wrote: > Read here: > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/community/mandrakesoftnews/latest That´s a very good idea, but I was hoping to be able to download individual packages, and it seems like there are only iso´s for it. Any mirror with the individual RPMs??? > > Original message from: Sergio P.Korlowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >Can any one tell me what is: > >mandrakefreq-i586-20010316.iso > > > > > >Sergio Korlowsky > > > >. > > > > > __ > Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au > > > -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] compat libstdc++ ???
On 2001.03.20 14:34:52 -0300 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Daniel Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I want to upgrade my libstdc++ to the cooker version, but a lot > of > > my programs need ' . Isn't there some > > compat-libstdc++ like there is for glibc? Thanks. > > try to install egcs-libstdc++ egcs-libstdc++-1.1.2-41mdk.i586.rpm (the one in cooker) has /usr/lib/libg++.so.2.7.2.8 /usr/lib/libstdc++-2-libc6.2-1-2.9.0.so /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8.0 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9.dummy But not 'libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3', which is what I need... -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] Red-Carpet
You´d better ask "What is Ximian´s position about Mandrake". I can't get RedCarpet to install, Mandrake RPMs are delayed a month or so, there are still no RPMs for Gnome 1.4 etc... Looks like they (Ximian) forgot about us... BTW, I've already complained to them twice, but got no response (by email and on the news.gnome.org forum). :-( On 2001.03.21 09:46:08 -0300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi, > > What position of Mandrake with for RedCarpet ? > > RedCarpet in MDK 8.0 ? > > > > > Vincent GUARDIOLA > TSC Micro / Lan Server Support & IBM Linux Help Center France > -- > RedHat Certified Engineer - RHCE > Microsoft Certified Engineer - MCSE > > E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel :(71)5975 > Fax : (71)4618 > > > > -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] compat libstdc++ ???
On 2001.03.20 13:18:41 -0300 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Daniel Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I want to upgrade my libstdc++ to the cooker version, but a lot > of > > my programs need libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 . Isn't there some > > compat-libstdc++ like there is for glibc? Thanks. > > You don't need to upgrade: since we now use the lib policy you can > install > the following package without removing the old one: > > libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.44mdk.i586.rpm Oops... $ rpm -ivh libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.44mdk.i586.rpm libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk.i586.rpm file /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 from install of libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/parsestream.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/bastring.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/complext.cc from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/gslice_array.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/indirect_array.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/mask_array.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/slice_array.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/std_valarray.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/valarray_array.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/std/valarray_meta.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/stl_alloc.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/stl_config.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/stl_iterator.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/stl_rope.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/streambuf.h from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk file /usr/include/g++-3/string from install of libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.44mdk conflicts with file from package libstdc++-devel-2.95.2-12mdk -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] compat libstdc++ ???
On 2001.03.20 13:18:41 -0300 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Daniel Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I want to upgrade my libstdc++ to the cooker version, but a lot > of > > my programs need libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 . Isn't there some > > compat-libstdc++ like there is for glibc? Thanks. > > You don't need to upgrade: since we now use the lib policy you can > install > the following package without removing the old one: > > libstdc++2.10-2.96-0.44mdk.i586.rpm Thanks! What is this `lib policy´? I have some vague idea, but where can I find some documentation on it? I think the Mandrake site really lacks this kind of documentation... -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
[Cooker] compat libstdc++ ???
I want to upgrade my libstdc++ to the cooker version, but a lot of my programs need libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 . Isn't there some compat-libstdc++ like there is for glibc? Thanks. -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] glibc-2.2.2-4mdk installs zero-length /etc/ld.so.conf
On 2001.03.15 16:26:21 -0300 Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > David R Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I tried upgrading glibc by installing glibc-2.2.2-4mdk > andcompat-glibc-7.2-2.1.3.2mdk. Where can I find this RPM? I´ve looked for it everywhere... -- []'s |.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] Duplicated noarch package on mirrors
On 2001.03.16 09:12:32 -0300 Guillaume Rousse wrote: > All noarch packages are duplicated on mirrors for i586, sparc and alpha > trees. Why not have a dedicated noarch tree ? Why not use a symbolic link? -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] xinetd, telnet, wu-ftpd problems.
[snip] > Now that telnet is working I can login, su to root, restart xinetd, > then wu-ftpd again gives service with a smile. :o) DON´T telnet is bad enough for users, and it´s unforgivable for root. Use ssh instead (preferably, openssh). I recommend this excellent article by Jay Beale, who by the way works for Mandrakesoft now... http://www.securityportal.com/cover/coverstory2814.printerfriendly.html -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] How do I upgrade to cooker?
Is there any documentation on live_update??? I can't find any. On 2001.03.14 11:11:57 -0300 Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach Daniel Serodio am Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 01:54:46PM -0300: > > I'd like to upgrade to cooker (I'm currently using 7.2 + > updates), > > Boot your 7.2 system, change to the cooker dir, and run live_update - > this > might/should do it. > > Alexander Skwar > -- > How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to > (english) > Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | > http://www.iso-top.de >iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen > Uptime: 2 days 20 hours 8 minutes > > -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] How do I upgrade to cooker?
On 2001.03.13 15:25:11 -0300 RA wrote: > On Tuesday 13 March 2001 23:50, you wrote: > > MandrakeUpdate. > > > > Dave > > > > And there will be NO problem with glibc 2.2 and rpm 4 ??? That't what I wanna know. Also, what about the packages I have which are not part of Mandrake, and use the old glibc or something??? I guess MandrakeUpdate won't be able to upgrade non-Mandrake packages... > > On Tuesday 13 March 2001 11:54, you wrote: > > > I'd like to upgrade to cooker (I'm currently using 7.2 + updates), > > > but I suspect 'rpm -Fvh *' won't do it, since it didn't work for > > > upgrading from 7.1 to 7.2 . How can I upgrade to cooker without going > > > thru the installation program (which is a real pain)? Thanks. > > -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
[Cooker] How do I upgrade to cooker?
I'd like to upgrade to cooker (I'm currently using 7.2 + updates), but I suspect 'rpm -Fvh *' won't do it, since it didn't work for upgrading from 7.1 to 7.2 . How can I upgrade to cooker without going thru the installation program (which is a real pain)? Thanks. -- []'s |.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
[Cooker] gnome-vfs-devel
Can someone tell me why we have gnome-vfs-0.6.2-1mdk.i586.rpm in cooker but not the corresponding -devel RPM? I need the devel package to compile galeon (it's wonderful, should be included in the distro). Also, if I try to compile it from sources, it complains about some packages which I have installed, but with a different name. e.g.: libaudiofile-devel vs. audiofile-devel and libesound-devel vs. esound-devel. What's the reason for this inconsistency? -- []'s| .~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
RE: [Cooker] Mandrake 7.2 + 8.0 bloated and resource hog!
Don, > I see this as a VERY SERIOUS issue that needs to be looked > into. RPM CAN NOT re-enable services that I've disabled! Strongly agree ! > There are some services that should be enabled by > default, in my opinion: > > Workstation installs: > xfs, cups/lpd, crond, drakfont, gpm, harddrake, kudzu, > sound, network, usb, sshd (if installed), xinetd (but > none of the services), numlock This looks good. > Development installs: > Probably similar to the above.. > > Server installs: > cups/lpd, crond, network, usb, sshd, xinetd (maybe some > of the services), nfs, smb, httpd, ypserv (if > installed), ldap, mysql, named, postfix, portmap, etc. Disagree. Yes, these can be part of the installation, but absolutely do NOT turn on the services which are for remote access, like nfs, smb, httpd, ypserv, mysql, named, ... People installing servers are more knowledgeable about Unix/Linux, and they (like me) will turn them on when ready. First an administrator needs to put security TCP wrappers in place, one service at a time. Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] help! modprobe can't locate binfmt-0000 ?
> I loaded the latest from sunsite.uio.no about 6:00 PM CST, then > tried to reboot. I get the following message about 6 times, then > Aurora tries to start, then I get it like 4 more times, then the system > locks up. The message : > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module binfmt- > > What does this mean, and more important - how can I fix it? > Vinny You most likely have a binary program corrupted or file size 0. I had this problem with /sbin/ipchains somehow set to file size 0. Re-installing the proper RPM fixed the problem for me. Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] flexbackup - where is buffer
Peter Ruskin wrote: > > I wanted to try flexbackup but got this message: > > [04:28 root@penguin:/home/peter]# flexbackup -toc > > flexbackup version 0.9.8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > /etc/flexbackup.conf syntax OK > > Errors: > buffer not found in $PATH > > Any ideas what this means? This means you don't have the 'buffer' program installed. I got mine at flexbackup's homepage: http://members.home.com/flexbackup/buffer-1.19-1.i386.rpm By the way, 'buffer' doesn't work with Mandrake's "secure" kernel. -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
[Cooker] sudo access to alias commands
In my .bashrc (or .aliases) for root, I have aliases and functions defined (instead of creating scripts). I am trying to figure out how my regular user account can access such an alias command as if I was logged into root. I want to use sudo so that the password prompt is only asked the first time. Trying: sudo "banned 11.22.33.44" returns saying that 'banned' is not a known command. Although it is actually an alias for an ipchains rule. I tried: sudo sh -c "banned 11.22.33.44" and such variations, but still the same problem. Effectively I would like the sudo command to act like the '-' in "su -" when su'ing to root (and loads up the aliases). Any ideas how to do this ? Any other suggestions ? Thanks... Dan.
RE: [Cooker] - is mandrake among them?
2.2.18 got P4 Code too ? right ? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chmouel Boudjnah > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 1:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Pentium 4> - is > mandrake among them? > > > Meir Faraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've see that the new kernel 2.4 have a support for pentium > 4 why will be a > > problem with it ? > > 2.4.x support, 7.2 out of the box doen't supposeley. > > -- > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > --Chmouel > >
Re: [Cooker] shutdown on Linux
> I want to allow non-root users to shutdown and reboot the PC. According to > the shutdown man page : > >If shutdown is called with the -a argument (add this to the >invocation of shutdown in /etc/inittab), it checks to see - my /etc/inittab file contains... # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -a -t3 -r now >if the file /etc/shutdown.allow is present. It then com # cat /etc/shutdown.allow root dwoods Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
Does it really take that much time and effort? I am assuming it is packaged pretty much the same way as KDE 2.0. Am I wrong? Where is a good resource on learning how to package something? Zeljko Vukman wrote: > On Thursday 07 December 2000 20:56, you wrote: > > How hard can this be? If I got to the KDE site I find that Caldera has > > rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0. SuSe has for > > like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake has a stupid > > readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well, that's great and > > totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely > > incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributions have an > > upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't? > > I guess, thats's because Mandrake is a little company with not so many > employees, and they simply don't have time to do this. What Chris did > a few weeks ago was his goodwill, and he didn't get paid for that. > And Kde2 bugs are not Mandrakes bugs, and they probably don't feel like > they should use their resources to make Mandrake 7.2 users happy because > of Kde2 bugs. -- ++ You have been infected with the Linux Virus! This virus operates on the honor system. If you run any version of Linux, please delete a dozen or so files from your hard drive at random and then forward this message to everyone in your address book. Thank you for your participation. ++
Re: [Cooker] CVS news
> from the quill of Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on scroll > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Brian J. Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Thanks Chmouel! I think. It looks and functions just like cvsweb. > > > What is better about it? > > > > try open .sh file to see colors... > > OK, cool. Is that the extent of the difference to cvsweb though? I > don't mean to be critical, at all Chmouel. I am just trying to find out > what new cool stuff this tool does. > -- > Brian J. Murrell How about installing it and trying it out for yourself, and then you can compare the differences for yourself. It is always your choice as to which you want to use. Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
How hard can this be? If I got to the KDE site I find that Caldera has rpms for it. Redhat has RPMS for both Redhat 6.x and 7.0. SuSe has for like everything including their SPARC version. The Mandrake has a stupid readme saying that cooker has a better version. Well, that's great and totally useless. Cooker is not stable and cooker is completely incompatible with 7.2. How come all the other distributions have an upgrade available and Mandrake doesn't? Zeljko Vukman wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 December 2000 15:26, Daniel Tabuenca wrote: > > Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is a > > BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of > > Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update > > facility. > > > > You are dreaming. Mandrake has no plans to make RPMS of Kde2.0.1 for Mandrake > 7.2. The only available 2.0.1 will be on Cooker (which is BTW binary > incompatible with 7.2). Compile yourself. > > Regards,
[Cooker] Why no Official KDE 2.0.1 Update?
Is there an official set of RPMS for upgrading to KDE 2.0.1. This is a BUG FIX release so I think it is important that current users of Mandrake 7.2 be able to upgrade perhaps even with the mandrake update facility. -- ++ You have been infected with the Linux Virus! This virus operates on the honor system. If you run any version of Linux, please delete a dozen or so files from your hard drive at random and then forward this message to everyone in your address book. Thank you for your participation. ++
Re: [Cooker] xinetd problem in 7.2 ?
> Yo, Yo Yo, Thanks to Chmouel and Geoffrey. :) > On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 03:56:56PM -0700, Daniel Woods wrote: > > I would like to find out more about xinetd, any docs besides man pages ? > > > > I got xinetd-2.1.8.9pre12-2mdk.i586.rpm from current 7.2 version. > > When trying to install xinet*, I get ... > > # rpm -ivh xinet* > > error: failed dependencies: > > /etc/init.d is needed by xinetd-2.1.8.9pre12-2mdk > > > > Why is it looking for /etc/init.d instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d > > on my LM7.1 system ?(I see nothing relevant in the changelog). > > Because of fhs compliance you need things like this. > Install latest filesystem /initscripts and things should be gone. > Be careful since these are base system packate, just warning so that you don't > screw your system .. I got the 7.2 version of initscripts and updated my 7.1 system and it works. I was then able to install xinetd-* and update wu-ftpd-* > > I am trying to install 'wu-ftpd-2.6.1-7mdk.i586.rpm' which depends on > > error: failed dependencies: > > xinetd is needed by wu-ftpd-2.6.1-7mdk > > > > Trying to install both at the same time still gives the /etc/init.d error > > on my LM7.1 server. > > xinetd is now the choice over inetd. Any real world examples beyond the man pages ? Mainly IP restricted ftp, telnet, pop3 and imap (yes, I mainly use ssh). Thanks... Dan.
[Cooker] xinetd problem in 7.2 ?
I would like to find out more about xinetd, any docs besides man pages ? I got xinetd-2.1.8.9pre12-2mdk.i586.rpm from current 7.2 version. When trying to install xinet*, I get ... # rpm -ivh xinet* error: failed dependencies: /etc/init.d is needed by xinetd-2.1.8.9pre12-2mdk Why is it looking for /etc/init.d instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d on my LM7.1 system ?(I see nothing relevant in the changelog). I am trying to install 'wu-ftpd-2.6.1-7mdk.i586.rpm' which depends on error: failed dependencies: xinetd is needed by wu-ftpd-2.6.1-7mdk Trying to install both at the same time still gives the /etc/init.d error on my LM7.1 server. Thanks... Dan.
Re: [Cooker] FW: CUIDADO PARA NÃO FICAREM BEBADOS. vej am da esquerda para a direita hehe
É melhor verificar o destinatário antes de enviar a mensagem... Foi p/ a lista errada :) Luis Alves wrote: > > Isto é para o machos, mesmo machos aqui da vergas. > > On Tuesday 21 November 2000 11:11, you wrote: > > Vejam da esquerda para a direita hehe > > > > <> <> <> <> -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
[Cooker] Uplodaded syslog-ng
Well, it's me again. I just uploaded syslog-ng to /incoming. syslog-ng is a replacement for the "classic" syslog, and is much more configurable. You can use regexes to sort the logs (very useful to log ipchains messages to a separate file, for example), plus a lot of ther stuff. In fact, I'd even like to suggest that it becomes the default syslog daemon for Mandrake. Anyway, I uploaded libol-0.2.20-1mdk.src.rpm, which is required to _build_, but not run, syslog-ng-1.4.8-1mdk.src.rpm. If you get the source package, you'll need libol too, but if you get the binary you don't. I did my best to make this RPM work exactly as the default Mandrake syslog. The config files are based on the latest syslog RPM I found, which is sysklogd-4.4-1mdk. Hope you all like it. Should I announce uploads somewhere else, or is this the correct list? I don't see many annoucements of this kind here... Files: libol-0.2.20-1mdk.src.rpm syslog-ng-1.4.8-1mdk.src.rpm BTW, I forgot to send my GPG key last time. Here it goes: -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org mQGiBDoGF4YRBACUfW40cLZEsKfTqN+wMoX7S1W1BYMyGgmi8IO9P0KUgOTiUWii iw5VlG3eUvw+Xg30ni6Jv2tmT2FdV+jSQfK9qWYumyLdmuQUQUiuTvZ/3396JZIh h5AVL/1Zx2zJrvSWqY8/4Z5IJ8a2+9e1bTvdomThwv5gnGhK6m7bZWHRfwCg9pia QFBl5ZQBeRNRyBuP9+XJmIMD/jq7Z4OiMvejFcVs1zfQEv4GRMPmdZ9zt3JsoGkz 0WXgBSODzyDlzDXZFt2HTjhrWDe1AAEAa5QiFBs1tYWXdsdv4Ulx0oZb4uTu8PXp YHqRli2g9Zk1oxTt0R+ntUlP7ZUeeawN/OLpGMi+jL+JWT7ZX/RpaIV31re4EAJ1 OVdAA/9CV1p74kdjd6JBZjtM1dUtGr/d6j1a9lwyC6Az0DZOvluHg85wkCssMeCj ba0MRkyovKH7GneQ31XfQBumkS5SOB0rnVvFUXnCAz2rTznPB6jZ2MpXlib1iF9R 7NrJ4RTLbwm5oAN1zfCXg/XVDzGIlO7ysLGdSF6n0g1jb1w/cLQjRGFuaWVsIFNl cm9kaW8gPGRzZXJvZGlvQGVtYWlsLmNvbT6IVgQTEQIAFgUCOgYXhgQLCgQDAxUD AgMWAgECF4AACgkQvDDy/gkHZ/zpDwCfXEW/W1kExGX8LiLLbYDkXiLqprEAoO1c B9AG2dl127K7mHQt6kCBlKcGuQENBDoGF5QQBAD8kiqNQ992XG3qU8xxaTEg5PhF SzOw8v9OVuCAivesewFXioPuELeMDwy5HiB9lSK8yj8QkAgnJfouGOWLZG1/C+VD D0+f/ja9yNUcFtHjSX0AhnQZDpXlUZdbl3PUEt2uk+HOWZuKzxMXMt23sx57KMm0 lfWBIEOiFV3pb1krRwADBQP+PJlbQi9RGEroVDKjwX0R4oQruiMHKAqK3dV45dU5 fO6ZBDtauigNEAe22CcILI3yx4vJaHMLIO4sP5gXOuDVNd9Zkli59YUYe4xUnohO NzfQuaMOlTN/DJcwdrBz8n/JQW3J9+l+05QBEOQLiCoT07HmL/isJNDv6sWiuJSE 8meIRgQYEQIABgUCOgYXlAAKCRC8MPL+CQdn/GCRAJ4j+l/oc96UhV0831GAO+dp XcY8sACeMNwVU0lYIZG1DfAytClBboo0vPI= =a4Vv -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- []'s |.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] Suggestion for Cooker
Alexander Skwar wrote: > > So sprach Chris Spencer am Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:27:59PM -0600: > > Since /user/local/bin is included by default in a user's $PATH why isn't > > /usr/local/lib included in a user's $LD_LIBRARY_PATH by default as well? > > Don't know, but a better approach would be to add it to /etc/ld.so.conf, so > that ld find's those libs automatically. This way you add the path to a > standard location, and don't have to fiddle around with environmant > variables. > Yes, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is also a standard way of setting where lib's are > located, but *I* like /etc/ld.so.conf more. Agreed. /etc/* is much cleaner than environment vars. -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
Re: [Cooker] Kernel 2.2.17-21mdk has streaming problems.
Ron Stodden wrote: > > My first attempt to write CD-R and CD-RW blanks with > cdrecord-1.9-3mdk under Mandrake 7.2 turned out to be a dismal > failure, not able to get past track 4 to 8 for "Medium Error." and > "Write Error - Loss of Streaming". This with numerous CD-R and CD-RW > blanks. > > I booted up Helium and tried exactly the same thing - perfect writes > every time! > > Under Odyssey, I used kpackage to remove all the cdrecord suite and > replaced it with that from Helium - dismal failure, pointing to the > problem being within Odyssey's 2.2-17mdk Linux kernel. > > cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 speed=4 Mandrake72-inst.iso > > I rate this as serious. Any clues, anyone? Is this a "secure" kernel? I record CDs with 2.2.17 (compiled myself) with no problems, but when I installed Mandrake 7.1 and tried to restore my tape backups with flexbackup, I couldn't. Flexbackup uses the "buffer" program, and buffer doesn't work with the secure kernel. Maybe the buffering for cdrecord works the same way? -- []'s|.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
[Cooker] Upgrading from 7.1
I saw several instances of "upgrading from 7.2" on this list, but I'm currently using 7.1, and want to upgrade some of the packages to cooker. I tried to upgrade my X server, and I get these errors: $ rpm -Uvh XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm \ XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm error: failed dependencies: rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 is needed by XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 is needed by XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk Which packages do I need to upgrade? Thanks -- []'s |.~. Daniel Serodio (lobo on irc)|/V\www.linux.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | // \\ www.gnu.org | /( )\ www.gnome.org | ^`~'^
