Re: [Cooker] cooker - state of play
Hello Olivier Blin, I know its not on topic but it seemms that your email address on laposte.net is blacklisted by spamcop... I was playing with some antispam tools and obviously it intrigued me what was supposedly spam. So if you find people not responding or members on the cooker and other lists donot see your responses and use an antispam service. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.63 Beta/7 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10
Re: [Cooker] new icq/msn/yahoo/aim client for kde 3
Hello buzzlinux, On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:08:44 -0200 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, June 23, 2002, 9:08:44 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, buzzlinux wrote: hey Why mandrake do not make rpm's of the licq 1.1 version It auto get the user's list from server and have the new icq 2002 protocol please make rpms of licq 1.1 (www.licq.org) Does it force you to use your contact list on the server? Imean I like ICQ but sticking my contacts on AOL's servers is a thing I donot like to do, one of the reasons on my windows box I still run the older version of ICQ. -- Best regards, tracer
[Cooker] are there anywhere proper drivers for latest Via chipsets?
Thursday, July 05, 2001 Hello I normally install latest Mandrakes on new motherboards I use, just to see if it installs or if anything causes a headache. Better find it out in advance before its needed yesterday(g). Anyway, Latest MSI turbo boards for AMD Athlon / Durons when checking whats loaded seem to have 'unknown' devices. I counted 2 VIA devices, the promise raid (is on board) and the firerwire card (suposedly made by ACER acc to lists) My board is the K7T Turbo R, KT133A chipset, promise ata 100 rAID BOARD. Now as may be known, this buggy chipset is good in corrupting data if its copied from IDE 1 to IDE 0. No idea if thats the same under Linux butif anyone has this board or without the raid in use under mandrake I would like to know if those problems are also present under Linux. And where to get the missing drivers, asuming they are around. I want to use this board as my office system so I would expect more stability then what I need when playing a bit around and dataloss obviously would not be apreciated By the way, latest V8 I gave to a few stubborn window users to try and install. They were on the net without much problems but network settings (one used a router) stumped them... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.53d NO MICROSOFT VIRUS INFECTIONS mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194/324244 handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA) (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10
Re: [Cooker] Sympa missing on LM 8.0 (std. Ed.)
Hello mdk mailin list (Harry), On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 11:09:18 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, June 06, 2001, 1:09:18 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote: On 6/4/01 12:40 PM, Paul Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I think that starting with 8.1, that they should go ahead and go to 3 cd's for the core distribution. Agreed, since the Standard Edition comes with 3 CDs, but the third is just some varied Applications. Granted, it's a double-edged sword, seeing as how there is a lot Mandrake wants to include, and there's just a limit to how much fits on a CD-ROM. Of course, they could always offer an alternate distro on DVD-ROM. I have a feeling if they did, they would drive a lot of DVD-ROM purchases... :-) But would that be bootable if no OS is present?? (never tried it from DVD..) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.53 Beta/11 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194/324244 handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10
Re: [Cooker] Supporting MDK while still latest/greatest
Hello Leon Brooks, On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 13:05:50 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, November 05, 2000, 12:05:50 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Leon Brooks wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: So sprach Leon Brooks am Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 07:33:56PM +0800: Yah, MDK 7.2's update broke one of my systems very badly. Hand-repairing it took How did it brake your system? brake == slow down / break == smash It didn't slow the system down, it rendered it unuseable. Amongst other things, it decided it had finished (no error message, just went to the next step after install-packages) when about 40% of the way along the little bar-graph. At that point it had switched on all manner of stuff in startup (nfs, linuxconf come to mind) not useful on that system and removed a few unimportant items... like network and inet for example. Made it kind of hard to ssh into the system. Emptied the font config file (so X couldn't find *any* fonts to work with). Time estimates were far from sane... never went above 10 minutes, even two hours into the update at about 30%, started out at 5 minutes and some seconds. That may seem bad, but I have a recent Windows-ME install to compare with... 15 reboots, 4 of them planned, and still only fixed to problem temporarily. )-: Leaving Mandrakes install aside, I dumped windows ME after 2 weeks as it slowly got more and more corrupted and in the end I just dumped it. Add many incompatible hardware / driver problems and ME just isnt worth the headache. Asuming you want a MS product on that box, and that its capable of running it, win2000 is by far superior compared to ME. (and no need to tell me that 2000 isnt any good, I need to run it on one box for software which allas isnt available under Linux) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Halloween Edition mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194/324244 handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10
Re: [Cooker] All bashing aside, can something be done to avoid confusion at Wal-Mart?
Hello Jason Straight, On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:51:07 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, November 01, 2000, 3:51:07 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jason Straight wrote: I realize what's done is done, but to carry this out in a meaningful way, can something be done so there isn't confustion between wal-marts Mandrake version and what's at the ftp site? Like put the version as "Linux Mandrake 7.3 complete" and right under it put: Also available "Mandrake 7.2 Professional, and Mandrake 7.2 download release", so there's at least some hint as to the fact that there's a difference in them? The problem seems to me that sales politics are involved and obviously money so by marketing products which arent final 'visibly' it means their sales drop dead and that means complaints to mandrake Means this whole discussion is useless except as an indication to Mandrake that it could be done better next time but its extreemly unlikely anyone will admit it... Anyway, I can understand the current sitution, and lets hope the next time someone kicks the marketing guys before they screw up(g) Essentially any buyer of the non final product may be a lost future user if the product frustrates him... And release candidates are betas, doesnt matter how one camouflages them, they arent the final version or one made for a specific customer. Only thing which differentiates release candidates is that they may have various options activated / deactivated which on testing generate the real release.. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Halloween Edition mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194/324244 handphone : 01-891-9560 FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10
Re: [Cooker] I am puzzled by people's behaviour...
Hello Jacques Le Marois, On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 23:21:18 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, November 02, 2000, 5:21:18 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jacques Le Marois wrote: James Sutherland wrote: Not entirely. The product they are selling is NOT "7.2", and shouldn't be sold as such. Just print the truth... The product in the shop is the 7.2 final. The ISO on Internet is 7.2 final +updates and could be call something like "7.2-27/10 edition". In x weeks will do a new ISO/tree with all the updates and it would be either 7.2 with a new build date - we are not going to call "final" each last build. All the updates for MandrakeUpdate are going to be targeted to the 7.2 of the shops. If the 7.2 as sold doesnt work without upgrades and was released due to commercial reasons, I would have been better to wait. Customers expect a release on CD at least to work and not requiring things to have to be downloaded. Anyway, some buyers (like me) have to pay for logon and internet time so any large downloads are just inacceptable... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.47 Halloween Edition mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates
Re: [Cooker] please please test U66 with last kernel.
Hello Chmouel Boudjnah, On 20 Jun 2000 19:00:26 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, June 21, 2000, 9:00:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Hi, Please for those of you lucky guys who rolling with U66 disks can please try the last kernel rpm of cooker and report me as working or not. Thanks you very much. what about some U100's Reminds me I have seen problems with old DMA33 drives on interface 2 while interface 1 had DMA66. Second interface doesnt always realise that the drive on a DMA66 cable isnt DMA66... I ended up with one extreemly unstable hard disk... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.45 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] U66 solved
Hello Pixel, On 19 Jun 2000 11:12:38 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Monday, June 19, 2000, 4:12:38 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Pixel wrote: "bobby dowling" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean the -d flag without the -X flags? So, you can say -dX and those WD drives that froze the system before would work? nope, froze anyway here :( Now a more intriguing question is, has anyone tried to replace these drives under waranty as being out of spec??? They claim to be UDMA66 and they donot run properly so what about getting ones money back... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
Hello David Walluck, On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:28:52 -0400 (EDT) GMT your local time, which was Friday, June 09, 2000, 11:28:52 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, David Walluck wrote: On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Civileme wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2000, you wrote: Can someone help me here? VT 82C597 Apollo VP3 hda: Maxtor 84000A6, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC WD181AA, ATA DISK drive if you reverse the order of these drives, you could destroy them. PLEASE see http://kt.linuxcare.com/kernel-traffic/kt2214_54.epl (second item) before something happens. Put one with your CD or something, but get them off the same channel. and hda is faster because it is a Maxtor and can use real DMA, and it has a better timing setup and it is the MASTER--never expect the slave to be faster. I know it looks stupid, but this is the only way I could get the drives to work. It did not work on the CD-ROM cable, and it could not detect the WDC as master. The WDC is UDMA so I would expect that to have been faster even with (U)DMA disabled. WDC said that if the drive speeds differ greatly that it may be impossible for the BIOS to detect the drive as master, so I would need to use another setup, but as I said I can't get any other setup to work! I think with DMA off it should work fine because they will be on a level playing field if you will. If you can help farther, that would be appreciated :) Consider as the WD is under Waranty to get it exchanged for something else as it clearly doesnt run as it should. As long as its one off cases hitting them they may do it but obviously the signs are clear that if their drives are out of spec and misbehaving they will sooner or later go bust... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
Hello bobby dowling, On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:25:52 CDT GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, June 07, 2000, 5:25:52 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, bobby dowling wrote: I am getting about 4.7 megs /second on my 7200 rpm WD. I am using ata/66 an hdparm without the d1 option. I am not sure if this rate is good or not, but when I see people say that they are getting 12+ megs per sec I start to worry. 4.7 is no good, right? Seems to be more or less what I get with luck but with a maxtor you could do 15 How can I know if DMA is turned on or off? When I bot up it looks to say that DMA is being used ...around where it says that I am using ata/66. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
Hello David Walluck, On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:16:34 -0400 (EDT) GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, June 07, 2000, 1:16:34 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, David Walluck wrote: Sorry, I can't say anything for Windows 98 because I've never used it more than a couple times as I don't have it installed. However, my friend has a 17G WDC and runs Win98 and his drive seemed to be working fine and he had 4 drives in there I think. However, on this list I remember at least 4 people report DMA not working on larget WDC drives. Maybe a call to their tech support is in order, but they may just say they don't support Linux and not help you. But frankly with these problems I am wanting to get my drive replaced. Do yu know how much slower things are with DMA turned off? Anyway, to recap, I know nothing about Win98 problems, nut my friend's Win98 and WDC drive works fine. As for Linux, when I have DMA turned on I get constant errors and data corruption. When I have hdparm run it just hangs the drive. Are any of these three symptoms similar to yours? I can live without the hdparm thing, as that's not guarnteed to work anyway, but having to leave DMA off really bothers me. DMA seems to work under 98 but its not anywhere as fast as it should be. At least not on my system. As I said I have my linux on 8 gb drives to keep things simple... And thats a Quantum and no problem with that. But my 98 is fairly straightforward and optimized and since the last few weeks even stable (sorry for saying this but normally its anything BUT stable(g)) I run a small oem and to be honest, I donot sell Western Digital OR Fujitsu... We use Quantums (first choice) or Seagate (second). In the hot humid climate we have, Fujitsus have to be very lucky to survive the first year and WD normally nothing but a headache. Mine were kind of inherited via a gift and as I donot want to make my customers unhappy I use them myself... or better the Kiddies will (g) -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] 32 bit i/o for hard drive
Hello David Walluck, On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:44:14 -0400 (EDT) GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, June 06, 2000, 7:44:14 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, David Walluck wrote: Brian Fleischman wrote: I do can do a -c1 just fine also. If I do a -d1 (dma)...locks up...harddrive light on constantly, even with the -X66 or -X68. I have a WD 20.5 ata/66 7200 rpm drive. I wonder what's up with the dma stuff. -Brian Hi. Why are hard drive optimizations on per default??? I have to add "nohdparm" to the command-line. On my WDC 18G drive, it hangs. I'm having serious problems with DMA enabled on this drive anyway (VP3 chipset). So I turned off "Use DMA by default" in the kernel. Still, hard drive optimizations apparently can't be enabled on WDC dricves. I've seen this problem reported many times and I'm experiencing serious problems myself. let me ask something here which could be related. I run the 15 gb WDC's and so does a friend. Not for mandrake but for windows 98... linux sits on another box with 2*8 gb drives. However BOTH my friend and I have experienced odd behaviour of these drives under 98 where a fat 32 split into 3 doesnt show the last partitions in fdisk, it does with other tools and under 98 all is there. But I have the silly situation that of booting with a standard 98 floppy, I have 2 partitions visible I never had that on my 13.5 WDC or the Quantums... I strongly suspect that there is something in these drives which doesnt work 'standard' -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
[Cooker] OT: http://theborg.dyndns.org/
Hello testing a LINUX firewall. So if anyone is bored during the weekend... Its partly mine so donot worry bringing it down.. Last weekend they tried without luck. In case you wonder, its a 486(g) oops... webpage gives details -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/17 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
[Cooker] socket / packet driver: setting...
Hello Maybe a bit out of topic but we ran last weekend a 486 as firewall and exposed it to the real bad bad world(g). We had the system for more then 24 hours under a full scale attack and it survived. System ran Linux (obviously) and stood up extreemly well, a few minor hickups but nobody got in or knocked it off line... We now have to see what the 75 mb of logs tell us... I had a conversation with a friend of mine to see how we could make it better... Conversation quoted below, and essentially if anyone knows how to DO that Low level setting my friend talks about... he doesnt either! Mail could be offline to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: If enough clients out there respond to the flood command, they in turn generate a BUNCH of requests to the victim server. With a big pipe, they all get through, and seem to come from very disparate sources. The server does what it can to fill the requests. If they are all on port 80, or some mapped HTTP port, the server settings can throttle down just how many requests get honored at a time. (with Apache, this is cake.) but SYN floods are a different story. All you can really do is change the number of responces that a server will give before throwing the bullshit flag. This is a low level setting in the socket/packet driver and isn't very easy to get to. (hell, I'm not even sure how to get to it on my machines) EOQ. Advice welcome! Also in case anyone wants to be informed when we repeat the excercise email me so I can let you know. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/16 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] pgp again
Hello David Walluck, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:06:47 -0400 (EDT) GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, April 11, 2000, 1:06:47 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, David Walluck wrote: I remade a key with pgp 6, it still fails to validate, it seems you need to have your key certified by a public authority. I don't like this because I change e-mail addresses (and thus keys) quite a bit. added I donot want my keys certified by a 'public authority' -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.42 Beta/16 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
[Cooker] Is anyone using The Bat under Linux?
Hello Is anyone using the Bat under the Bat using Linux? If yes full info welcome mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] test ignore
Hello Chmouel Boudjnah, On 24 Feb 2000 16:02:17 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, February 25, 2000, 7:02:17 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com [216.71.84.35]) by ruby.granis.net (Build 98 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00192 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:03:51 -0600 Received: (from sympa@localhost) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23130 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:49:02 -0600 Received: from natanya.us.mandrakesoft.com (barracuda.mandrakesoft.com [209.77.56.161]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22535 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:47:25 -0600 Received: (from chmou@localhost) by natanya.us.mandrakesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05496; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:02:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: natanya.us.mandrakesoft.com: chmou set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f To: Mandrake devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24 Feb 2000 16:02:17 -0800 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lines: 4 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) Emacs/20.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sequence: 1454 Precedence: list Subject: [Cooker] test ignore test --Chmouel hello... I am filtering all known mails to their proper boxes to reduce spam. if the addressee is NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail like yours and some others end up in my spam box. Is there any reason for the Mandrake devel [EMAIL PROTECTED] address being used to the cooker list? -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Management of the mailing lists or lack thereof
Hello Patrick Putteman, On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 22:39:38 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, February 09, 2000, 4:39:38 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Patrick Putteman wrote: It seems that Mandrakesoft can't manage a mailing list. Is it so difficult to filter subscribtions of certain addresses? Seems clear to me that the addresses of the mailing lists should not be allowed to subscribe!! This is an old trick of spammers of script-kiddies to spam or bomb mailing lists. I've already left the newbie and changelog lists because of similar problems over the last 6 months (dupes, mailing lists subscribed to itself, spam,) and I'm not far away from unsubbing from the cooker list as well. Do something about it NOW!! Patrick Putteman Internet Support Manager Net7 - Member of the Advalvas Group www.net7.be - www.advalvas.be - www.upto.com Agreed -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] same happening here (received 69 messages today!!!)
Hello Here below a sample whats at the bottom of any message send via the (moderated) list server from the BAT (an email program which likely will be ported to Linux once Delphi exists. While on this group maybe most of that info is unrequired, what about just having those 2 lines with the unsubscribe as tag on the emails from the most frequent posters.. Ie Pixel Chmouel?? Or those posting for Mandrake in general? Its unlikely anyone on the list wouldnt have seen any of those if he wants to get off We have by the way as I think I mentioned the option to set the subscribe attribute to read only which means a spammer in theory could after subscribing be doomed to read but not send and thus unsubscribe and they tend to be very annoyed by that(g). Not sure if its a good idea but the last one doing it changed his email address after a few days... -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] unsubscribe
Hello Pixel, On 07 Feb 2000 00:11:35 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Monday, February 07, 2000, 6:11:35 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Pixel wrote: Pieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isnt it about time that the maintainer of this list catches these message's this is not a moderated list Thats not the point. Any decent list should be able to catch this and autorepond to sender with unsubscribe info. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] unsubscribe
Hello Sergio Korlowsky, On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 18:29:04 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Monday, February 07, 2000, 7:29:04 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Sergio Korlowsky wrote: Pixel wrote: Pieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isnt it about time that the maintainer of this list catches these message's this is not a moderated list Wouldn't be posible to add a single line at the bottom of the messages with instractions on HOW to unsubscribe? that alone would save a lot of unnecesary traffic. Just an idea... Lot's of new users dont know how to unsubscribe from majordomo ;-) Or give the link at the bottom of the emails where on the website the subscribe.unscubscribe info is. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.41 / Beta1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194
Re: Fwd: [Cooker] Problemas LILO de Mandrake 7.0beta
Hello Quel Qun, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:26:42 PST GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 8:26:42 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Quel Qun wrote: Quel Translation (sort of), since it doesn't look funny: Correct, I would use a different word(g) However if one mixes Os's on a drive one runs the chance to get bitten. THE reason I always use as boot drive the master 0 for Linux and slave 1 for Windows and via linux lilo when setting Linux up specify the second boot partition. I have sofar never overwritten the windows part by mistake and its amazing how often it happens with mixed drives. Presumably FDISK /MBR will fix that cdrive up but maybe better to get it confirmed by a previous victim! Quel I have a 6.3GB hard drive with 4 partitions, one of them being 2GB and Quel reserved for Linux. The first partition (C) contains Windows 95, the second Quel and third contains some FAT file system, and the 4th partition was Quel containing Mandrake 6.1. I wanted to update to Mandrake beta 7. It seems Quel that the upgrade process no had any problem and reinstalled LILO on the boot Quel sector. When the machine rebooted, LILO displayed a welcome message (I Quel assume it is a new version), and I asked to boot Linux. No problem to start Quel it, but when I wanted to exit Linux to go to Windows, LILO never booted. I Quel tried a boot floppy for Windows, but it seems that the unit C is now invalid Quel and I can't open it. It looks like the partition C which contained Windows Quel has been destroyed. I assume it is a LILO problem. Quel I haven't tried the Windows fdisk to see (or change?) what could have been Quel done, but I preferred to send you this message reporting what happened. From: "Ricardo Carrera" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Problemas LILO de Mandrake 7.0beta Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:02:33 -0600 Tengo un disco duro de 6.3 GB el cual está particionado en 4 áreas, una de las cuales está dedicada a Linux y es de 2 GB. En la primera partición (C) tengo Windows 95, en la segunda y tercera tengo el sistema de archivos FAT y en la cuarta partición tenía Linux Mandrake 6.1. Quise actualizar a Mandrake 7.0 beta. Parece que el proceso de actualización no tuvo ningún problema y me reescribió LILO en el sector de arranque. cuando la máquina reinició, LILO hizo una presentación dando la Bienvenida (supongo que es una nueva versión) y solicité arrancar a Linux. No hubo problemas para iniciar pero cuando salí de Linux y quise entrar a Windows, simplemente LILO ya no arrancó. Inicié con un diskete de arranque para windows pero resulta que ahora la unidad C es una unidad inválida y no puedo entrar Tal parece que se hubiera destruido la partición C (la activa) que contenía Windows. supongo que es un problema de LILO. No he probado con fdisk de Windows para revisar que pudo haber pasado pero he preferido enviarles este correo para comentarles lo que me sucedió. Ricardo Carrera Hernández Universidad del Golfo de México Orizaba, Ver. México [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quel __ Quel Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194
Re[2]: [Cooker] unsubscib
Hello James E. LaBarre, On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 08:57:11 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, January 08, 2000, 8:57:11 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, James E. LaBarre wrote: James Well, seeing as I copied the email address *and* the subject line from James the info email I received when I first subscribed (rather than typing it James myself), I doubt that. I was sucessfully unsubscribed for half or 3/4 James of a day, then reappeared. As long as I have been on this list I have seen complaints about unsubscribing. Wouldnt it make a lot of sense to make an unsubscribe link on the webside next to the subscribe links? when I had an email problem one time I tried to unsubscribe for the week I wasnt here and I couldnt manage it either. James Axalon Bloodstone wrote: misspellings and wrong email address account for 99% of the failures. On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, James Jennison wrote: You know, it might help for those who want to unsubscribe from the list to actually spell unsubscribe correctly. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] Is the list down? Not receiving messages
Hello Jim Vaughan, On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:21:49 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 06, 2000, 9:21:49 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Jim Vaughan wrote: Jim I haven't received messages from the list for 2 days now. Is the list Jim down, or do I have a problem at my end? Some people want off and cannot get off.. so who knows. But I can tell you the amount of mail I get is HEALTHY. LOADS of it. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194
[Cooker] Spam....
Tuesday, January 04, 2000 Hello I seem to receive again spam in my cooker mailbox. If it happens to be anyone with a valid email address could he maybe be added to the ORB database or at least subscribed to all mandrake publications, the kernel updates etc etc to reward him for his interest in Linux???(g) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e NO MICROSOFT VIRUS INFECTIONS mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194
Re[2]: [Cooker] UNSUBSCRIBE (RTFM || /dev/null)
Hello Unhappy, On Tue, 04 Jan 2000 04:04:43 + GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 04, 2000, 11:04:43 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Unhappy wrote: Unhappy Well, some folk are responding to the spam, which, you might note, Unhappy has a reply-to: of the list itself. Unhappy I could think of some very nice presents for the spammers! I use various filters to reduce spam. And sofar they work fine. I find that most spam via mandrake ends up in my inbox. Reason is that I select on [EMAIL PROTECTED] in receiver to be filtered to my Cooker list folder. Now if I can do that doesnt that mean that anything addressed to a different destination can be scrapped of the mailing list as spam? What you do with YOUR mail om the same server destination is a different matter. Anyway I also dump any email not having an @ in sender and receiver, anything from postmasters, and on several other strings commonly used by spammers and result is about one spam letter per day instead of the no doubt many more.. However can you not filter with sympa??? Unhappy Civileme Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194
[Cooker] running thebat emailer with wine
Thursday, December 23, 1999 Hello Cooker, This was posted on the Bat users list: QUOTE: How's this: I'm running Linux right now, and using The Bat :) It seems to work fairly well with the latest version of WINE (The windows "emulator" that isn't an emulator). To get it to work I had to log on as root, and use the -winver nt40 option. I also edited the wine.conf file so that it knew where my real registry is... There are a nice selection of graphical glitches, the occasional access violation (happens when you switch to a Linux app then back to TB, makes TB hang for about 1 min) plus a "list index out of bounds" message which pops up occasionally. But generally it's stable enough for me to use... WINE even got my windows colour scheme and new mail sounds :-) Forte Agent works perfectly under Linux too. This WINE is getting tasty... EOQ So in short there is opportunity to use it for those who like to use this delphi based emailer and donot want to wait for the delphi porting. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e NO MICROSOFT VIRUS INFECTIONS mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194
Re[2]: [Cooker] Cooker glitches
Wednesday, December 15, 1999 Dara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dara Hazeghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I upgraded to Mandrake Cooker from RedHat 6.1 . Things started out well. The graphical installer worked well, my SCSI card was detected etc. Unfortunately when it got to video configuration it would complain that it could not find and certain file by the name of "Cards" or some such. I skipped the step and rebooted. Upon rebooting I discovered a number of very irritating things. Cooker's installer had not cleanly unmounted my Linux partitions which resulted in a 10 minute FSCK. Cooker's max security mode did nothing other than shut down all network interfaces so they wouldn't launch on bootup as well as most of my daemons. First, msec does not shutdown any network interface in any security mode. Sorry, it does many other things, but you didn't see them. Dara Very well then. I am sorry to attributed the problem to msec, however my Dara network settings were clobbered and eth0 no longer started up on boot. Most aggregious was that it actually commented out my /etc/resolv/conf . Msec didn't use /etc/resolv.conf [yoann@jinn msec]$ grep -r "resolv.conf" * [yoann@jinn msec]$ Dara This could be my fault, although I honestly do not remember doing such a Dara thing. People do strange things at night ;-) Dara Another point: Dara cooker does not replace the RedHat init scripts properly, in asmuch as I Dara still get: booting RedHat when I boot. Ideas? Dara Dara Maybe a bit late but when installing betas, I normally would recommend a clean one as a starter... And Mandrake isnt Redhat You probably find if you DO want to run mandrake you better stick it on a spare box to see what it does, clean instead of overwriting Redhat and get a Hash with unknown constituents... In the end you have gueranteed more problems... Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 271194
Re: [Cooker] Netscape
Saturday, December 11, 1999 Hello A.Sleep, Saturday, Saturday, December 11, 1999, you wrote: A.Sleep OK, A.Sleep I was gonna start working on those pesky installer themes :) but netscape is A.Sleep dead. A.Sleep first I got an error that a lib wasn't there (some 2.7 / 2.8 A.Sleep incompatibility). A.Sleep I'm not at the PC now and cannot remember the name. A.Sleep I rpm -e the netscape rpms and reinstalled them with --force hoping that A.Sleep would work. A.Sleep Now we get: A.Sleep /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator: error loading shared libraries: A.Sleep undefined symbol: __eh_pc A.Sleep Ideas? A.Sleep A.Sleep Wake up (g) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38e
Re[2]: [Cooker] gcc-2.95.spec $RPM_ARCH
Sunday, November 28, 1999 Hello Pablo, Saturday, Saturday, November 27, 1999, you wrote: Pablo Kaixo! Pablo On Fri, Nov 26, 1999 at 09:22:40PM +0100, Stefan van der Eijk wrote: I bumped into the following line in the gcc-2.95.spec file: %dir /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/auto/Term/ANSIColor This file returns a "File Not Found" when I try to compile it on my alpha. I tried the trick I used on the perl package the other day and changed the line into: %dir /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/$RPM_ARCH-linux/auto/Term/ANSIColor Pablo %dir /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/%{_arch}-linux/auto/Term/ANSIColor Pablo would be better. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY Phone 271194
[Cooker]
Saturday, November 27, 1999 Hello Cooker, I have a problem, local isp is disconnecting me and my mailbox is growing and growing and I never stay on line long enough to get my mail or anything else. I am going away for a week and have no time/chance to sort it out till I am back and as I get 200-300 emails per day it will fload my box. I am trying to cancel my changelog list subs and the cooker list but as I cleaned out I lost the instructions and on the website all it says is how to get on, NOT how to get off!! Could someone please cancel me on BOTH lists? I am sitting there either subscribed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] and its no use telling me how to do it as there are like 300 emails in my box and after 4 attempts I still havent got one. Luckily sending a few is faster. thanks Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.38 Beta/3 NO MICROSOFT VIRUS INFECTIONS mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY phone: 271194
[Cooker]
Wednesday, November 17, 1999 Hello A question from a friend... Roel as said before: the problem isn't just linux, but also sco-unix, beos, Roel and now even NT... Roel the only clue I have is my bios setting: Roel since it's a rather old motherboard, I'm forced to use 'extended Roel chs'... lba-mode finds about 500 mb of a 3.1GB disk... Essentially he has a very old motherboard, wants to run linux on it but as you can see the drive capacity exceeds what you can boot with... How do you use a drive like this under Linux? I never had this problem myself and i like to help him to dump the windows on that system!! Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re: [Cooker] ?? just asking
Thursday, November 11, 1999 Hello webmedic, Thursday, Thursday, November 11, 1999, you wrote: webmedic I just wiped out my /home ( the partition was unpartitioned by fdisk ). The webmedic data is still there because i can use hexedit and the like and see it but it webmedic isn't recoverable by the undelete utilities that check the inodes and change webmedic them back because linux looks at it and only sees a newly formated partition webmedic with all the inodes newly created. webmedic My question is there something, anything out there that can save some of this webmedic data. I don't feel like loosing 6 months worth of work. If it was windows no problem, one can do that but Linux, no idea. I would love to have a decent tool though for emergencies like this. On the other hand you should consider using either a Linux backup of a partition in future or the Norton Ghost as their latest is supposedly now able to make proper images of Linux partitions. Could be a life saver with betas (as it was when I was betatesting 98...). You have a dud, remove the thing and 15 minutes later system is back alive webmedic If such a thing isn't possible I'm thinking about trying to progam something webmedic myself and gpl it. I've been looking at python for this. I like the sytax it's webmedic easier for me to understand than perl. can anyone point me to something that webmedic might help or maybe point out something that i'm not thinking about. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/1 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] CD-Burning cooker.iso
Monday, November 08, 1999 Hello Sergio, Monday, Monday, November 08, 1999, you wrote: Sergio Tim Val Litwiller wrote: I took out the man-* files that had other localisations that I did not need. tracer wrote: Sunday, November 07, 1999 Hello Sergio, Sunday, Sunday, November 07, 1999, you wrote: Sergio Can someone who already has burned iso images help me decipher this Sergio information Sergio I am trying to make a cooker bootable CD from latest mirror dir. and I Sergio get this... Sergio seems like there is not enough space in a standard CD to fit (660 mg) Sergio actual size. (snip) Sergio 96%. Didn't reach 100%? Sergio is there a way to make the iso.file smaller so it can be fitted in a Sergio standard CD? Sergio TIA Sergio Korlowsky drop the docs or buy the currently available oversized cd's (80 minutes!) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/1 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY Sergio Well... I would like to thank you both... I had to remove not only the man pages Sergio from all unused languages, but also Sergio remove the howto files... to come up with 643mb that the standard CD can handle. Sergio Tracer... I am not sure if cdrecord supports the oversized 80 min. CDs? are you Sergio sure... Thanks! no idea as my cdrom burner in the office runs under windows... And the one I will buy for my home will be used under 98. main reasons are that there are so many good cdrom burning programs which I KNOW do work...Its one of the applications where a failure costs you money so unless I know for sure the linux equivalent works at least as good... Sergio Anyway I will install the howto's later, they are handy when a question arises. ;-) Sergio Sergio Korlowsky Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/1 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re: [Cooker]
Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Wednesday, Wednesday, November 03, 1999, you wrote: Vonderbu unsubscribe Doesnt this indicate that maybe the unsubscribe method should be changed?? Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] unsubscribe
Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Chmouel, Wednesday, Wednesday, November 03, 1999, you wrote: Chmouel "Jefferds" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shawn Jefferds Intek Systems - Everest VIT (480) 699-0380 Chmouel how these f**n 3 lines take 8394 lines is there some hidden virus in Chmouel this message ? Chmouel --Chmouel it has jpegs and html. A spammer (g) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] Cooker mirrors ?
Tuesday, October 26, 1999 Hello Ian, Tuesday, Tuesday, October 26, 1999, you wrote: Ian On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Terp Turtle wrote: On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, you wrote: Also, could somebody please talk to the folks running some of the other big mirror sites and see if they could mirror it? I was thinking of metalab.unc.edu (which carries Mandrake already, but not cooker) and sunsite.ualberta.ca (which carries some linux distros, but not Mandrake at all) I've never had luck with Canadian sites. They seem to be slow - both for updating and downloads for some reason. Ian You're right, most Canadian sites seem to have a problem with speed (and Ian if you look at a traceroute it's no wonder). sunsite.ualberta.ca seems to Ian provide good speeds for me both at work and at home, as SunSites are Ian funded by Sun and get good machines and lots of bandwidth (160Kbytes/sec Ian right now). metalab.unc.edu used to be sunsite.unc.edu (at U of NC) and Ian is a very popular mirror site. Ian Besides, more mirrors can't hurt, right? All of the non-North American Ian sites don't do me much good, but they are useful for some people. These Ian mirrors will be useful to some people. Its publicity, chances to download. Unless you want to be limited to redhat in future better stimulate mirrors and marketing... Ian Ian Ian --- Ian Ian White Ian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] ATA66 support?
Wednesday, October 20, 1999 Hello sylvain, Wednesday, Wednesday, October 20, 1999, you wrote: sylvain Jeff Garzik wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Kit Ngan wrote: Edmond Elza Cheng wrote: Does the latest kernel 2.2.13-17 support the IDE ATA 66? You won't get the full benefit of the controllers in compatibility mode, generally. sylvain Only a few hard disk controller drivers support ATA66. For example sylvain Sis620 does have support for this feature. sylvain PS: upgrade to 2.3.18 or above (NOT 2.3.22) because there were a LOT of sylvain optimizations in hard disk acces; ie : boot sequence is 2 or 3 times sylvain faster, launching X11 is 2 - 3 times faster too. It seems latest ABIT motherboard took the DMA66 out again as with current hard diks it seems to make very little difference. I havent seen the board or the docs but thats what a friend just back from Singapore hardware shopping told me Best regards, tracer files attached: none Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] NAME: kernel VER: 2.2.13 REL: 20mdk
Thursday, October 21, 1999 Hello Terrapin, Wednesday, Wednesday, October 20, 1999, you wrote: Terrapin On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:33:36 -0400, Jeff Garzik Terrapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I was wondering -- RedHat has always had the problem where a kernel upgrade via RPM was not complete, ie. I could not do rpm -U kernel*.rpm reboot and get a new kernel. Basically it did not re-run LILO, if I recall correctly, but there may have been other problems too. Does Mandrake have the same problem? Terrapin Not for me since the last successful Panoramix (DrakX) install. The Terrapin latest lilo.conf just has "vmlinuz" and the install of a new kernel Terrapin makes all the proper links. I simply re-boot now without changing Terrapin anything or running lilo and I have my new kernel. Very simple. Terrapin But, I always keep a complete working kernel just in case the latest Terrapin fails. shouldnt Panoramix do that automatic?? Anyway, silly question probably but who reads Asterix (g) when giving these names... Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] Re: [[CHRPM] NAME: cdp VER: 0.33 REL: 4mdk]
Sunday, October 17, 1999 Hello Vincent, Sunday, Sunday, October 17, 1999, you wrote: Vincent On 16 Oct 1999, Rudi Pittman wrote: I have done both an unsubscribe changelog and an unsubscribe * to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does it take to get off this list? Vincent Are you sure it's majordomo? Try sending a message to Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if that works... the Vincent mailing list is called "cooker", BTW, not "changelog". Vincent Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 Vincent http://shx.tzo.net . telnet://shx.tzo.net . http://tux.tzo.net Vincent BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta . Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS Vincent Check out the new Linux Information site at http://tux.tzo.net there is more then one listing and it seems he also subscribed to changelog anyway, the place where to unsubribe was alread mentioned... Best regards, tracer files attached: none Using theBAT 1.36 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] panoramix installed pretty good
Hello Sergio, Thursday, Thursday, October 14, 1999, you wrote: Sergio Korlowsky Brook Humphrey wrote: As of yesterday panoramix installed pretty good but I just noticed a bunch of python and anaconda in the new files for download. Are you guys scraping panoramix for anaconda? Also some problems with the install. These aren't so much with panoramix. 1) Couldn't log on all the passwords were messed up. I think this was with with beginer and expert install. Server install worked ok. 2) ppp wasn't compiled into the kernel and when i compiled it I got an error so I had to reinstall from an old cdrom from right before 6.1 to get ppp working again. I think thats it for now. -- ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- Holiness unto the Lord, He must increase, but I must decrease Brook Humphrey Owner, Mobile PC Medic webmaster, www.thelinuxstop.com webmaster, www.webmedic.net Sergio Korlowsky Yes, as am working on a new fresh mirror image of cooker, I also noticed Sergio Korlowsky that... Sergio Korlowsky a whole bunch of anaconda... why? just when panoramix was cleaning and Sergio Korlowsky geting Sergio Korlowsky better? I am running on cooker now, and I used panoramix, withot many Sergio Korlowsky trobles. more importantly, why not first ask whats thought of a change like this... or at least tell its being done... Sergio Korlowsky sk Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] hdlist
Hello Michael, Monday, Monday, October 11, 1999, you wrote: Michael Irving On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, you wrote: On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:40:11 -0400, allxsan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you but the hdlist on sunsite.se and rpmfind have a different size from the hdlist generated on my PC. Bah :-) Bye Alessandro ah I've had bad results from sunsite.se and stopped using it several months ago. Maybe you can pick another? Michael Irving ftp.sunet.se always give the correct result for me. Michael Irving Michael Irving AND, its a very fast server... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
[Cooker]
Hello For those interested, SamSung is putting out or putting their label on 80 min cds acc to a post on a newsgroups.he saw the ad in "Midwest Micro" catalog Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] More on Panoramix
Hello Terrapin, Monday, Monday, October 11, 1999, you wrote: Terrapin On 10 Oct 1999 19:13:31 +0200, Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergio Korlowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: crtl-alt-F2 cat ddebug.log /mnt/home/debug.txt cat /proc/meminfo /mnt/home/meminfo.txt cat /roc/swaps /mnt/home/swaps.txt in fact this so usefull that ddebug.log is *now* copied to /root/ddebug.log at the end of each step. This is a great enhancement. Thanks for the tip, i should have done it before :-! Terrapin It will not retain debug info from before partitioning if it fails Terrapin during partitioning :-( cu Pixel. you could if you let cooker always generate a small debug partition of a few mb which doesnt get overwritten by subsequent partitioning and have cooker dump all msgs/dumps/logs there. After all its a debug product so you can do something like that which doesnt have to be in the final product. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
[Cooker] After install of Winlinux, it boots my Cooker disk (g)
Hello I recently downloaded that WINLINUX 2000 to have a look at it... Installer under 98 was ok but my system doesnt run it. Its in a way quite funny... My drive 0 is my Mandrake development Cooker version. drive 1 is (slave and 98 boot, 3 and 4 are storage... If I run winlinux 2000 from 98, it reboots and kicks off my Cooker (g) which rather violently complains but does boot up with all kind of things obviously having been compiled with the wrong kernel Ok, I disconnect the drive 0 in the bios (normally 98 never sees it), and the damned thing does the same except a get a kernel panic os my drive 0 is seen but not there. Sure doesnt want to go to drive 1 unless I go and start messing with the scripts. Anyway, I will probably to see quicker what it does disconnect to powercable from my Linux drive ... However, as my system did boot up into my Cooker based system... by mistake, doesnt that mean that their setup to kick linux off also works for mandrake from windows out with some fixes? Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] panoramix.diff
Hello Jeff, Friday, Friday, October 01, 1999, you wrote: Jeff Garzik On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Nora Etukudo wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 11:40:55AM -0500, Timothy Litwiller wrote: They should but, cards with more than 8 meg memory are not using it for more colors they are using it to store lighting effects, textures and bumpmaps. Well, I don't understand the details behind that, but Xconfigurator shows an option for "32-Bit Colors" and many people think of it as 4,294,967,296 colors (alias 4 billion colors) :-). Jeff Garzik 32-bit means 32 bits-per-pixel (bpp). I would disagree that many people Jeff Garzik think of it as 4 billion colors: 32 bpp includes three separate color Jeff Garzik components, red, green, and blue, and possibly transparency (alpha) also. Jeff Garzik So total colors is approximately '4 billion / 4' or '4 billion / 3', Jeff Garzik depending on how the colormap is set up. Jeff Garzik Regards, Jeff Garzik Jeff so why not just say it is 32 bpp... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] panoramix.diff
Hello Pixel, Thursday, Thursday, September 30, 1999, you wrote: Pixel tracer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So on checking a few I hit on this one of panoramix Did it get fixed Pixel now there is Pixel #: ../Xconfigurator_consts.pm_.c:7 Pixel msgid "16 million colors" Pixel msgstr "" Pixel #: ../Xconfigurator_consts.pm_.c:8 Pixel msgid "4 billion colors" Pixel msgstr "" Pixel, unless my mail is out of sync, you invented a linux setting which is years ahead of the hardware, Suggest you replace billion by million. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
[Cooker] panoramix.diff
Hello , ../Xconfigurator_consts.pm_.c:7 msgid "16 millions of colors" msgstr "" #: ../Xconfigurator_consts.pm_.c:8 msgid "4 billions of colors" msgstr "" I was exporting most of my mail to a storage directory as my email program is slowing down if too many messages are present. Plus that it can corrupt mail or duplicate things... So on checking a few I hit on this one of panoramix.... Did it get fixed Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] making a legal case (SPAM)
Hello Mandrake, Monday, Monday, September 27, 1999, you wrote: Mandrake Bugs The E*tractor Pro web-site is almost anal with repeatedly using the word Mandrake Bugs OPT-IN in their wording, as well as having a pseudo-disclaimer Mandrake Bugs 'discouraging' people from using their software to SPAM. Mandrake Bugs Of course, this is bogus - after all, why would you need to harvest Mandrake Bugs addresses in bulk for an opt-in system - I think a good legal case can be Mandrake Bugs made by everyone involved (including ISPs involved) against the producers of Mandrake Bugs Extractor Pro for misleading advertising (possibly), but definitely for Mandrake Bugs fraudulent advertising. Mandrake Bugs In the meantime, our list is slowly starting to be overrun by these moron Mandrake Bugs spammers. Mandrake Bugs I do agree that it sounds like a good idea to use a filter and to remove Mandrake Bugs anything that has E*tractor Pro in the body text - add filterable words as Mandrake Bugs needed. Oddly enough, all their spam ended up not in my cooker folder as they donot address it to cooker the TO part is missing... secondly if you filter on the name of the extractor, while it works, it also means any discusion about the blasted thing gets zapped... More interesting, wouldnt it be a good sales argument to have a mandrake which has a proper and easy antispam system where unwanted stuff gets zapped straight of the server where it comes from. Finally, I just wonder if the idiots who made it legal have email addresses NOT ending in .gov.. Any idea where to find them??? I have an excellent destination for such a mailing list (g) Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re: [Cooker] Install Mandrake 6.1 from a SCSI CD-ROM?
Hello John, Sunday, Sunday, September 26, 1999, you wrote: John Dawson It it supposed to be possible to install Mandrake 6.1 (or Cooker) from John Dawson a SCSI CD-ROM? I'd really like to be able to do this, since my IDE John Dawson CD-ROM can't read CD-RW-media disks; only my SCSI Plextor drive can. John Dawson But although the install process will let me load the aic7xxx.o driver, John Dawson it doesn't let me pick /dev/sr0 for the CD-ROM device; it only lets me John Dawson use /dev/hdc. I have similar problem, I can boot from scsi but when it wants to find my cd, I have to switch the cd to my SB16 based ide cdrom My scsi cdrom is an old 4 speed NEC on 2940Uw with optical disks etc etc Problem has existed for ages as far as I know, Suse hasnt got this John Dawson I haven't yet tried Panoramix; maybe this problem is already fixed John Dawson there, and I'm just whining about nothing ... John Dawson -- John Dawson John Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Dawson The Kernel Group, Inc. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] It's your decision
Hello Bernhard, Monday, Monday, September 27, 1999, you wrote: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer On 26 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message was composed using Extractor Pro Bulk E- Mail Software. If Bernhard Rosenkraenzer This is the 3rd SPAM in 2 days sent with Extractor Pro... Guess their Bernhard Rosenkraenzer latest version includes [EMAIL PROTECTED] as target address on Bernhard Rosenkraenzer their CDs. We should sue them over this... : Bernhard Rosenkraenzer LLaP Bernhard Rosenkraenzer bero well, as they send it to the mailing list without being as sender ON the mailing list, is there anyway your server can refuse emails to be accepted unless sender is on the mailing list or wants to be subscribed to it My email program and its filters get rid of some of the garbage, so does my USA.NET filtering.. The other thing is that they give an 800 number and as far as I know this gets paid for by the one being called... So I have sofar posted their phone numbers on some hacking groups with the request to call these guys as much as possible Is there a way to get their 800 numbers cancelled??? And as some claim, is it now legal in the USA to send this stuff?? I would love to be able to reroute them to the idiots who passed it as legal if correct... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] How about bundling Microsoft True Type fonts?
Hello Mandrake, Thursday, Thursday, September 24, 1998, you wrote: Wrong. Mandrake 6.0 and 6.1 come with X-TT in X, not (like RH) with xfsft. Therefore, it's not ttmkfdir, but mkttfdir. Mandrake Bugs So, Bernard, does this then mean that Mandrake works functionally identical Mandrake Bugs to RedHat, but does it differently? If that's so, how does that combine with Mandrake Bugs the Mandrake claim to be 100% compatible with RedHat? Mandrake Bugs Not a gripe, but rather curiosity. Mandrake Bugs Harry Mandrake Bugs -- Mandrake Bugs Beauty, brains, availability, personality - pick any two. Not only that, what about adding something to make things like this more user friendly?? This is the kind of silly thing resulting in support work and thats whats preventable. if one checks the mandrake newsgroups its very clear what causes most problems and some of those if not most are preventable and would make mandrake much more user friendly and save all of you support work... And obviously time installing Linux Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] How about bundling Microsoft True Type fonts?
Hello Gael, Tuesday, Tuesday, September 21, 1999, you wrote: Gael Duval Mubashir Cheema wrote: After fighting a long battle named "True Type fonts under Mandrake" I finally won. See my previous email to read the description of the problem. I noticed that Microsoft allows people to download fonts from their website. I was wondering if they would let Mandrake and others download them and bundle them with their distribution. All setup for printing with StarOffice etc. Well, provide the full info how to do it, where to get them and maybe float the combined free package of fonts through the less offical software routes. I am sure that a suitable ftp can be found where ms cannot complain against I briefly read the License and it seems that the 2 major points are : 1. You could distribute the fonts as long as you include the copyright notice also. 2. Distribution of the fonts to make money was prohibited. Gael Duval I don't like this idea very much (asking the permission to Microsoft Gael Duval etc.) but why not. However, I think the best solution would be to have Gael Duval some tools to builds TTfonts under open sources systems like Linux. I have the feeling that MS isnt going to be able to refuse considering their current court case and the fact that they already have their license like this. They may realise that looking good boys is better then getting it done anyway and looking stupid because if they say NO, you can stick their response in a suitable Linux news page where it gets read widely that they donot follow their own license Anyway I have not used their fonts myself, so how complicated is it to add MS fonts to the linux system is it something which could be easily automated by anyone with a suitable script who has all the fonts in one directory??? If yes, give them the tool to do it in the most easy way and tell them clearly how to add TT fonts from MS to their LINUX Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] panoramix
Hello Terrapin, Monday, Monday, September 20, 1999, you wrote: Terrapin Sounds good. For Mandrake to be successful in attracting the Terrapin beginners, it must take on the role of "sys admin" in order to get Terrapin them going. Once they are in the door, they can learn more about the Terrapin OS if they wish. Terrapin On 20 Sep 1999 00:03:20 +0200, you wrote: I added quite a lot of features or at least automatic things. So be carefull in beginner mode it's quite simple. For example if it detects lilo or dos on MBR or an empty one, it installs lilo there without asking! The graphic configuration is quite easy too: - detection of pnp monitors - default resolution chosen based upon the monitor size - diskdrake in beginner mode is simplified too (no more `Format', nor `Active', neither `Mount') - test without asking in beginner mode. So now, all you have to do in beginner is wait for the question `Is it ok?' and answear yes and that's it. runlevel 5 by default of course :) Anyway, you can always (or will be able to soon) go back and choose something else. That way, installation is a piece of cake! I'm gonna try a blindfold install soon :) A big question mark button has appeared and will soon give more help. cu Pixel. PS: by the way, diskdrake has now a front-end to rescuept to recover your partition table in case of problem. It is still beta though... Could the program also function as an upgrader? I mean here if hardware gets changed can it upgrade these settings??? I would imagine a videocard change will equally stump a beginner (g). And I still think if not done yet that some program like this if run on an installed system could be used to do loads of stuff people would like to do in an easy way, like soundcards and stuff like that. I know, we can do it by hand but it should be easier for the beginners. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] panoramix
Hello Takacs, Monday, Monday, September 20, 1999, you wrote: Takacs Sandor On 20 Sep 1999, Pixel wrote: I added quite a lot of features or at least automatic things. So be carefull in beginner mode it's quite simple. For example if it detects lilo or dos on MBR or an empty one, it installs lilo there without asking! Takacs Sandor I didn't see the current version, but I have a question: How can we add a Takacs Sandor hungarian translation to the panoramix install? I guess they will consider you volenteering for it (g) Pixel, I have some files as used in Thailand to use with Redhat as they seem to consider standard Thai setup a bit crude due to deviating characters, words joined together etc etc. I cannot read it anyway but if you want me to attach those directly to you somewhere to look at in case it is usable for a future cooker let me know. Docs are in English (!) Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] Welll....
Hello Rick, Sunday, Sunday, September 19, 1999, you wrote: Rick Collette Ok.. I booted tomsrtbt, and it wont let me mount /dev/hda1 /test.. so i cant Rick Collette even GET to the hd filesystem.. :( Rick Collette -Original Message- Rick Collette From: Rick Collette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rick Collette To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rick Collette Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 2:23 PM Rick Collette Subject: Re: [Cooker] Welll Rick Collette I'll find out.. I used whatever the default kernel is that comes in cooker.. Rick Collette :) Rick Collette -Original Message- Rick Collette From: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rick Collette To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rick Collette Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 2:17 PM Rick Collette Subject: Re: [Cooker] Welll Rick Collette On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Rick Collette wrote: Ok.. got through the full install. Figured my way around and got it to Rick Collette go.. NOW, I get the good old Kernel panic: no init found. try passing init- option to kernel. Rick Collette By any chance... Kernel 2.3.18? Rick Collette LLaP Rick Collette bero Rick Collette -- Rick Collette Tired of waiting for Windows 2000? Rick Collette STOP WAITING! http://www.ms-windows-2000.com/ which is why I always have it on my mixed system so with explore2fs I can from 98 get to Linux... or its on a sustem with another linux which DOES boot. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] Mandrake 6.1 is out!
Hello Lorne, Saturday, Saturday, September 18, 1999, you wrote: LS Emmanuel Paré wrote: september 17 1999 - Linux-Mandrake 6.1 (Helios) is available for download. Read the announce here, pick your distro here. Mandrake 6.1 features Linux 2.2.13pre, XFree 3.3.5 and KDE 1.1.2, among others. Emmanuel Paré GIS/Programming for DBX Geomatics email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux-mandrake.com LS Do you know if the AHA1542 kernel? bug has been fixed or not? I just LS tried to update a Mandrake 6.0 that I stuck an AHA1542 SCSI card in and LS it won't work. I hope the 2940 UW works as last time I tried to install my cooker the setup couldnt find my card while the bootfloppy could... I am a bit behind in what I run as essentially my internet access got reduced to 20 lousy slow hours... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] IDE icon editor gives warning 347 and doesnt want to stop...
Hello I had a problem as my daughter was using the icon editor and wanted me to resize it for her. I cannot remember what I did wrong in that input field, and she already had a design on the screen. However all I got and I couldnt get rid of in any way till I switched the power off was warning 347 Assert: "xget selection owner(dpy,xA_primary) --win " in kernel / qclipbhoard x11.cpp (388) qclipboard may also have been g clipboard. Ok, I know its not a mandrake problem but the only way I could stop the program was by physically switching the PC off... It filled my screen up with warnings and nothing reacted to the keyboard to make it stop. So if someone is involved in kde maybe this means something and maybe it could be made less fatal... I GUESS I messed up entering the numbers what icon size would be as that is what I was editing... But considering the cure for the problem I am not tempted to retry it on whats at present a nicely working linux system. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] NAME: ispell-italian VER: 0.1alpha REL: 1mdk
Hello Pablo, Thursday, Thursday, September 16, 1999, you wrote: PS Kaixo! PS On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 03:04:38PM +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Name: ispell-italian Distribution: Mandrake We could put this in main distribution. PS I began putting the ispell-* in contrib because of the space problems; PS but it's true that they are quite small and could be put in main. PS Is there something special to do to move the ispell-* from contrib to main ? PS (and while I'm at it; why isn't the ispell-french in Cooker ? it is in Cassini) Well, I have a more general question.. As you are now fixing bugs in casini, why do you use the old cooker with the bugs as thread to stay cooker? Is there any reason why the stable (g) released Casini wouldnt be a better starting point for Cooker to continue By the way, my internet access has been severely chopped down. No more cookers for me via internet... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] USE YOUR HOME'S EQUITY TO REDUCE DEBT!!
Hello Hoyt, Tuesday, Tuesday, September 14, 1999, you wrote: H - Original Message - H From: Rick Collette [EMAIL PROTECTED] H To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] H Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 5:08 PM H Subject: RE: [Cooker] USE YOUR HOME'S EQUITY TO REDUCE DEBT!! My God. Why didn't I think of this.. this guy is a revolutionary! Consolidate all my bills into one place, and make ONE payment... wow... H this is just incredible.. someone ought to create a business model based on H this. (End sarcasm) H . . . and use the miracle of the internet to market it! Al Gore must have H had that in mind when he invented the internet! He INVENTED it??? I know he needs to show what he has done to have any chance to be elected but I donot think claiming inventing the internet will help (g). H Hoyt Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: [Cooker] Kernel compile problems with cooker(correction)
Hello (correction!!) Sunday, Sunday, September 05, 1999, you wrote: t Hello webmedic, t Friday, Friday, September 03, 1999, you wrote: t We are an OEM... t And we do sell pc's made with various chipsets. t As mentioned there are few alternatives for AMD's t And there are Via boards and via boards. t Now oddball/instability problems were on several boards with a lot of t hardwork traced back to 2 main reasons: t 1. most powersupplies used in PC's are qua power still designed to run t 486... t ie most systems run a powersupply which is absolutely inadaquate to t run all that stuff people tend to hang on it. t Added, AMD uses a LOT of power. Correction: I type ALI before, I meant VIA t 2. many of the VIA chipset boards use lousy/cheapo power regulators on t the motherboard. t 3. Interesting in ONE case I replaced the old powersupply by a real t heavy duty power supply (300 watt plus) and the previous unstable t system now ran for about 10 minutes and then literally went up in t flames In short power regulator on the board isnt working t properly, wants more power but cannot get it and AMD doesnt like t that, Give it more and they kill each other... t After the board burned I put the AMD in a similar board and essentially that also fried. t (as I wasnt attached to the board I didnt mind one bit at all, one t problem less!) t I checked with a friend who tests hardware professionaly for companies t who get stuck with their design and acc to him the regulators can blow t the chip and vv, especially with AMD so if you have cheaply made t boards... t Essentially they cannot cope and severe instability can occur. t On one case we got caught: I gave a sample board to a friend to play t with and he loved it. So we got a few more, made on a local internet t machine with an AMD, no problems, ALL the others had problems and t essentially the only stable chips I could run in it were certain t pentiums. t Then the original board was getting reaing errors during suse t instalations and I have seen it blow up in front of my eyes. One of t the chips on the motherboard smoked/cracked and the AMD was also dead. t we ended up dumping the remaining boards (only a few as I had smelled t a rat...) w One comment here I sell computers for a living. Here is some w free advice stay away from the via chip set. It even causes w problems with windows. I had to learn the hard way. Even under w windows there are unexplainable problems but they are the same w every time. Also they disappear as soon as I use for instance an w asus mb which uses the other chip set. And thanks for this post w because I was just getting ready to get rid of my fic mb in my w personal computer and this explains why I'm having trouble with w a few things (snip) Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] Kernel compile problems with cooker
Hello webmedic, Friday, Friday, September 03, 1999, you wrote: We are an OEM... And we do sell pc's made with various chipsets. As mentioned there are few alternatives for AMD's And there are Via boards and via boards. Now oddball/instability problems were on several boards with a lot of hardwork traced back to 2 main reasons: 1. most powersupplies used in PC's are qua power still designed to run 486... ie most systems run a powersupply which is absolutely inadaquate to run all that stuff people tend to hang on it. Added, AMD uses a LOT of power. 2. many of the AlI chipset boards use lousy/cheapo power regulators on the motherboard. 3. Interesting in ONE case I replaced the old powersupply by a real heavy duty power supply (300 watt plus) and the previous unstable system now ran for about 10 minutes and then literally went up in flames In short power regulator on the board isnt working properly, wants more power but cannot get it and AMD doesnt like that, Give it more and they kill each other... After the board burned I put the AMD in a similar board and essentially that also fried. (as I wasnt attached to the board I didnt mind one bit at all, one problem less!) I checked with a friend who tests hardware professionaly for companies who get stuck with their design and acc to him the regulators can blow the chip and vv, especially with AMD so if you have cheaply made boards... Essentially they cannot cope and severe instability can occur. On one case we got caught: I gave a sample board to a friend to play with and he loved it. So we got a few more, made on a local internet machine with an AMD, no problems, ALL the others had problems and essentially the only stable chips I could run in it were certain pentiums. Then the original board was getting reaing errors during suse instalations and I have seen it blow up in front of my eyes. One of the chips on the motherboard smoked/cracked and the AMD was also dead. we ended up dumping the remaining boards (only a few as I had smelled a rat...) w One comment here I sell computers for a living. Here is some w free advice stay away from the via chip set. It even causes w problems with windows. I had to learn the hard way. Even under w windows there are unexplainable problems but they are the same w every time. Also they disappear as soon as I use for instance an w asus mb which uses the other chip set. And thanks for this post w because I was just getting ready to get rid of my fic mb in my w personal computer and this explains why I'm having trouble with w a few things w On Fri, 03 Sep 1999, you wrote: What's your chipset and CPU? What amount of RAM? AMD K6-2 450 MHz, 128 MB RAM, VIA chipset... VIA again! Mamma mia! Have you compiled in APM support? If yes, does the kernel boot if you remove it? Funny, that was never a problem before, but I'll try it out... Greets and btw. thanks for the fast response np :) But I'd really like to sort out that VIA chipset stuff. All the people I know who have such a chipset on their motherboard have had problems (from massive disk corruption to "kernel wont boot"-style problems). Re: APM, and related (again!) to VIA, I know a guy with a K6-2 CPU and a VIA chipset as well who has had disk corruption problems, but on power off the kernel would just oops... Ban VIA! -- fg # rm *;o o: command not found Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] WordPerfect 8 RPM
Hello Sergio, Friday, Friday, September 03, 1999, you wrote: SK Jake Johnson wrote: I think that there are some licensing issues with StarOffice. When I tried installation, I needed a serail number, and a product number and ... a pain in the a$$. Is it any better now? (like a simple rpm with a serial?) That will supposedly be scrapped as SUN bought them and said very clearly acc to my news release its going to be a free product and that licensing was changing. No details yet... I agree their old registration system was a pain... But if as I think it means a free FULL release its very much worth having. SK Well... all you need to do is "Register" the product in their site, and SK they will send you SK your serial number and acustomer number as well... and it's "free" (for SK personal use). SK not that hard. uh? SK (or you can buy the Power-Pack and it comes with a serial number ;-)) SK Sergio Korlowsky Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] [Panoramix] Bugs: Package Install Time Estimate at 100% for 15+ seconds [Minor]
Hello Garrett, Thursday, Thursday, September 02, 1999, you wrote: GG When actually copying the packages to disk, the percentage based GG progress bar went from 0 to 100% in just 5 minutes for 500+ MB of data GG (fast!). GG However, it stayed at 100% for 15+ (another 25MB by my guesstimate) GG while it finished installing several more packages. GG Done should be done... 100% should be completion. Copying and installing isnt the same and even if it was split into 2 bars, one for copying and one for install, its still a problem that any controlling program like this hasnt got a clue how long an install will take... Some modules are big and go fast, others are big and go slow... Small modules can also take much longer then others so all one really should be able to show is number of packages or percentage installed and how many to go... % DONE/Complete is unpredicatble... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] ANNOUNCE: Linux-Mandrake 6.1pre available for download and tests
Hello Thursday, Thursday, September 02, 1999, you wrote: JLM Sam Gentile wrote: Ok, now I need the part about getting through the Proxy Server and if not how to download it all from NT and then how to set up boot disks and where to go from there. JLM Concerning the Proxy problem you can download from http:// from a lot's of JLM server (you just need to replace ftp:// by http://. JLM You just need to find a mirroring tool that accept http:// (wget ?) JLM Jacques. if the files are stored also on http, wouldnt that mean that under windows one can use 'teleport' to grab them, Its a very efficient multithreaded tool to grab websites with/without files. As long as files are http and not ftp. main thing is that if one has lousy speeds, that program maximizes throughput but its kind of lousy on recoveries (doesnt do them (g)) Now if one had a whole file list to be downloaded, presumably (under windows again) one could paste the whole lot in 'get right' and get them all over, recoveries included... Bill, any comments as you get the files via Windows as well... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker]
Hello Does SUN'S takeover of Staroffice mean if I read it right we can now include and install a full version free Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] Panoramix: Keyboard / language selection
Hello Chris, Tuesday, Tuesday, August 31, 1999, you wrote: CVH Jo wrote: I think you can suggest an AZERTY-keyboard when people said to be in Belgium. I'm already used to it that I have to change it to QWERTY. CVH Hmm. My experience is that lots of Dutch speaking Linux users in Belgium CVH have QWERTY keyboards. CVH Regards, Chris. do the cursor and enter/return keys work the same? then they can select without typing one letter You cannot force a keyboard like that if its totally different and language dependent anyway. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Panoramix,newgraphicalinstallerforMandrake, available
recent post on the mandrake group which maybe was missed by some... And yes I know the English was fixed up... However: screenshots should NEVER have been released like that to the website and more importantly, now the english is fixed, maybe not a bad idea to change them! == quote: Mandrake may also want to clean up the English they used in the screenshot captions. Gods help the English speaker who would mangle the French language the way they slaughtered ours on those screenshots. In article 7q864n$snj$[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mattias Dahlberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...do something about the colors! Those brown colors do bad things to my stomach. The index column is ok but why not a simple white background with blue letters or something in the main window? Take a look at: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/images/panoramix/ if you don't know what I'm talking about. Even better, hire one of those demo artists, who can make beautiful pictures out of 16 colors and a 320x256 resolution. I want people to say "wow" when they fire up the new Mandrake installation, now there's a chance they will scream "my eyes! my eyes!". Matt Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Re: [Cooker] MySQL released as GPL!!!
Hello Jean-Michel, Monday, Monday, August 30, 1999, you wrote: JMD Do we put it in Cooker? If so, I build it. =) Hurray! JMD Jean-Michel Dault JMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] JMD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Widenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MySQL 3.20.32a released as GPL Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:07:15 +0300 (EEST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I just wanted to inform you that MySQL 3.20.32a was released as GPL at 1999-08-22. (http://www.mysql.com/news.html). This means that MySQL (at least this version:) is now Open Source. You can run all new MySQL clients (which are in public domain) against this version! We will continue to release older releases of MySQL as GPL from time to time... Regards, Monty please add as having it in could be good reason to get cooker... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] Panoramix: Keyboard / language selection
Hello Pablo, Tuesday, Tuesday, August 31, 1999, you wrote: PS Kaixo! PS On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 07:04:47PM +0200, Florent Lesieur wrote: The keyboard selection should be the first question asked. PS No, the second, so the question can be asked in the language the user PS choosed :) PS I allready made a diff for that supplementary menu; it should be PS available now, or very soon. PS The list of supported keyboards is the one from the xmodmap files PS of the gkbd applet of Gnome, which are mainly Xmodmaps I'd collected PS along the years (most of them come from taking the layout showed on my PS last MS-DOS manual, when I was still on the dark side, and DOS still PS came with usefull manuals). PS If you use a keyboard not on the following list mail me, I would PS be interested to have info on it. # key = [ "short description", "x"""], PS # whith xx.map being the console keymap that will be used on text mode PS # and /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.yyy the xmodmap used on X11 PS "be" = [ _("Belgian"),"be-latin1", "be" ], PS "bg" = [ _("Bulgarian"), "bg", "bg" ], PS "fr" = [ _("French"), "fr-latin1", "fr" ], PS "gr" = [ _("Greek"), "gr-8859_7", "gr" ], PS "pt" = [ _("Portuguese"), "pt-latin1", "pt" ], PS "pl" = [ _("Polish"), "pl-latin2", "pl" ], PS "sk" = [ _("Slovakian"), "sk-latin2", "sk" ], PS "hu" = [ _("Hungarian"), "hu-latin2", "hu" ], PS "tr_f" = [ _("Turkish (traditional \"F\" model)"), "tr_f-latin5", "tr_f" ], PS "tr_q" = [ _("Turkish (modern \"Q\" model)"), "tr_q-latin5", "tr_q" ], PS "cz" = [ _("Czech"), "cz-latin2", "cz" ], PS "qc" = [ _("Canadian (Quebec)"), "qc-latin1", "qc" ], PS "de" = [ _("German"), "de-latin1", "de" ], PS "il" = [ _("Israelian"), "il-8859_8", "il" ], PS "ru" = [ _("Russian"),"ru-koi8", "ru" ], PS "uk" = [ _("UK keyboard"),"uk-latin1", "uk" ], PS "us" = [ _("US keyboard"),"us-latin","us" ], PS "dk" = [ _("Danish"), "dk-latin1", "dk" ], PS "is" = [ _("Icelandic"), "is-latin1", "is" ], "dvorak" = [ _("Dvorak"), "dvorak", "dvorak" ], PS "la" = [ _("Latin American"), "la-latin1", "la" ], PS "it" = [ _("Italian"),"it-latin1", "it" ], PS "sf" = [ _("Swiss (french layout)"), "sf-latin1", "sf" ], PS "yu" = [ _("Yugoslavian (latin layout)"), "yu-latin2", "yu" ], PS "fi" = [ _("Finnish"),"fi-latin1", "fi" ], PS "nl" = [ _("Dutch"), "nl-latin1", "nl" ], PS "sg" = [ _("Swiss (german layout)"), "sg-latin1", "sg" ], PS "no" = [ _("Norwegian"), "no-latin1", "no" ], PS "si" = [ _("Slovenian"), "si-latin1", "si" ], PS "th" = [ _("Thai keyboard"), "th", "th" ], PS "am" = [ _("Armenian"), "am-armscii8", "am" ], PS # georgian keyboards have to be written... PS # I've the necesary info as gif images, but priority is low and I'm busy PS # if you need it tell me, otherwise I will put it on standby #"ge_ru"=[_("Georgian (\"Russian\" layout)","ge_ru-georgian_academy","ge_ru"], #"ge_la"=[_("Georgian ("\Latin\" layout)","ge_la-georgian_academy","ge_ru"], PS you will note that the japanese keyboards are missing; not that japanese PS input will be supported during install; but having the / . ; , ? * ( ) ^[ ] PS etc keys misconfigured can be quite annoying... PS so I'm very interested in a descript of the layout of the japanese PS keyboards as used by Toshiba in its laptops for example. All I an tell you here is that acc to our japanese customers what they type seems to be very easy to do on an English/USA keyboard. I asked that as well as we sold a few multibooting Japanese/English/Thai systems and essentially acc to them it wasnt worth it getting a japanese keyboard. They seem to type more or less the way it sounds with ABC letters and out pops japanese... So I was told! On the other hand I would PROBABLY be able to get you a normal PC keyboard layout if that helps. Asuming Ms got it in one of their japanese manuals. if a MS keyboard file for Japanese helps, just let me know. I happen to have those... By the way there are 2 types of keyboards in Thailand. But I have never seen one of them... Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] Panoramix Experience..
Hello Chris, Saturday, Saturday, August 28, 1999, you wrote: CLM Hi, CLM I just wanted to mention that I also had the new GUI disk partition thing CLM completely hose my partition table. I have two IDE drives. My second CLM drive had a SuSE install with a bunch of partitions, and one spare where I CLM figured I would just put the cooker root, then I could mount my homedir. CLM Anyway, the reason I'm able to report this problem rather than screwing CLM around re-installing my system is because I found a wonderful tool called CLM rescuept. This great little thing let me manually rebuild my partition CLM table and get my SuSE back (along with all my MP3s and home directory!!) thats the most interesting part.. where an one find this useful tooland can it be part of cooker... CLM All I did was boot with the latest hd image (with the cooker distribution CLM on another drive which thankfully didn't get hosed). I chose expert mode, CLM no scsi. When the partition tool came up, all I did was hit "done" because CLM I didn't want to do any partitioning (I already had my partitions setup, CLM thank you very much!) CLM Anway, I think I'll wait a few days before I try this again. :) CLM Chris Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] RPM _interactive_ %post script?
Hello Pablo, Saturday, Saturday, August 28, 1999, you wrote: PS Kaixo! PS On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 01:41:40AM -0600, Axalon Bloodstone wrote: Let me clairify, i didn't say to add any interaction, thats totaly contrary to the basic concept of rpm. Jean-Michel needs to inform the admin that it's not fully setup yet, kpackage gnorpm and others do not show the echos from a %post. Lots of packages need to be configured on a site by site basis, echoing "Hey add your servers IP to /etc/foo.cfg" in a %post is a good way to let the admin know about it without sending them diggin thru 2Mb's of text. PS Mmmh, I send a mail to gnorpm author suggesting him that a window is shown PS in case the install/uninstall scripts do any output. stick all that info of what wasnt setup properly in a file or files, sitting in a prominent place for user or admin to look at and take action...or something similar.. Maybe a directory where products which need further action write these action comments to and put a shortcut to this directory on the desktop. You donot want interaction and anyway, I as user/admin would much prefer a list of items to check ... One item also qualifying for this is the sound setup considering the many people who cannot find how to do it. Best regards, tracer mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: [Cooker] RPM _interactive_ %post script?
Hello Axalon, Friday, Friday, August 27, 1999, you wrote: AB Let me clairify, i didn't say to add any interaction, thats totaly AB contrary to the basic concept of rpm. Jean-Michel needs to inform the AB admin that it's not fully setup yet, kpackage gnorpm and others do not AB show the echos from a %post. Lots of packages need to be configured on a AB site by site basis, echoing "Hey add your servers IP to /etc/foo.cfg" in a AB %post is a good way to let the admin know about it without sending them AB diggin thru 2Mb's of text. why not generate a write protected file with just those remarks in it, sitting om the desktop...or whatever suitable place you want. Shouldnt be that much if they have a decent layout and then its a matter of working through the list and fix what needs fixing.. (snip)