Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2

2002-08-15 Thread iroland


could you try snd-intel8x0 instead of i810_audio (don't forget to
install alsa-utils, libalsa2, libalsa2-data, to run the alsa
service and to set the sound volume level since alsa is muted by
default)

I will try to install alsa.




Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2

2002-08-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I joign the result of lspcidrake -v and my /etc/modules.conf,
 before the modification and after.

 snd-intel8x0: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator

yes, but have you retested with alsa module, enabled alsa service, and
sound volume unmuted ?

me thinking forcing alsa default volume to 50,50 and enabling alsa by
default.





Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2

2002-08-15 Thread iroland

Le Jeudi 15 Août 2002 20:09, vous avez écrit :
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I joign the result of lspcidrake -v and my /etc/modules.conf,
  before the modification and after.
 
  snd-intel8x0: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|SiS7012 PCI Audio
  Accelerator


enabled alsa service, 

The alsa service is enabled at boot

 sound volume unmuted ?

I use aumix to set sound volume, and there isn't any part wich is muted.

 me thinking forcing alsa default volume to 50,50 and enabling alsa by
 default.

Is there a special utility for set alsa volume and enable alsa by default?
Don't you think it's easier to add the driver (if it's possible)

PS: if you are French, we can talk in French, it would be more simple for me 
:-)




Re: [Cooker] Sound problem on SiS 730 with mdk 9 b2

2002-08-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 enabled alsa service, 

 The alsa service is enabled at boot

  sound volume unmuted ?

 I use aumix to set sound volume, and there isn't any part wich is
 muted.

so does the sound works with the alsa module ?

  me thinking forcing alsa default volume to 50,50 and enabling alsa
  by default.

 Is there a special utility for set alsa volume and enable alsa by
 default?

using oss's /dev/mixier as aumix does is fine, but frederic saw a bug
one day where oss mixer emulation and alsa mixer were'nt synced.

 Don't you think it's easier to add the driver (if it's possible)

what driver ? i guess you mean to the driver ? that's be the easier
way i had seen.

 PS: if you are French, we can talk in French, it would be more
 simple for me :-)

i'm, so you can but in private then.





Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)

2002-08-15 Thread David Walser

--- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snd-card-ens1371 is the module you are supposed to
 use.  Have you heard about 
 Google (www.google.com)?  It could have told you
 that in about 30 seconds of 
 searching.  Also read the documentation at
 www.alsa-project.org.

no, es1371 is the module you want.  It works
perfectly, there is absolutely no need for ALSA on
that card.

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Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)

2002-08-15 Thread David Walser

--- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Really?  And if we have problems with, say, the 2.4
 kernel, we can go back to 
 2.2?  Hell, why is Mandrake even working on 9.0,
 when they can just ship 8.2?  
 The thing is, OSS is buggy and outdated, and ALSA
 works much better for most 
 users.  We need to fix the problem, not go back to
 an old, buggy sound system 
 just so that one user can have sound.

Newer != better

OSS works *just fine* on lots of cards, and it should
be being dropped on those.  ALSA has a lot of cleaning
up to do before it's soup, and obviously some
user-space tools need updated too.

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Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)

2002-08-15 Thread David Walser

--- Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You've just filled yet another post with pointless
 bitching without
 giving the most basic information on the actual
 setup that's causing
 this problem (except for saying 'ensoniq / CL
 soundcards', which is
 hardly helpful given how many of the things there
 are). ALSA and OSS
 aren't monolithic, they're big collections of
 drivers; as someone has
 said, MDK still uses OSS drivers by default for
 almost all cards, it
 only uses ALSA for cards a) which have no OSS
 drivers or b) for which
 the OSS drivers have had bug reports submitted
 against them. Instead of
 bitching, can you please explain why this isn't a
 sensible policy, and
 explain the actual problem you're having in a useful
 and
 non-confrontational manner? It would be far more
 productive.

That is a sensible policy.  Someone suggested however
that they did OSS-ALSA on the es1371, when there is
*nothing wrong* with OSS on that card.  Also, for
cards (like SBLive) where OSS works (just maybe isn't
the greatest) the option should still be presented up
front (expert mode only) in DrakX to use OSS, rather
than just surprising people with it.

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Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)

2002-08-15 Thread Ryan Little


 The problem is Cooker is about to become the release
 version.

Yes, after at least one more beta and several rc's. Mandrake hasn't said
that (or when) they are releasing 9.0. I'm sure if you looked at another
OS while it was still in development between versions you'd find it was
just as full of bugs. Thats why it's called development. If 9.0 is
released and still has all these probs, trust me, I'll be one of the
first in line to bitch, but it's not, this is cooker :)

Ryan







Re: [Cooker] sound issues (mor)

2002-08-15 Thread David Walser

--- Ryan Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The problem is Cooker is about to become the
 release
  version.
 
 Yes, after at least one more beta and several rc's.

You hope.

 Mandrake hasn't said
 that (or when) they are releasing 9.0. I'm sure if

Sept. 5-10

 you looked at another
 OS while it was still in development between
 versions you'd find it was
 just as full of bugs. Thats why it's called
 development. If 9.0 is

Right, so the ideas being tested in Cooker now are
what they hope to do in 9.0
Theorhetically if it doesn't work out (which it isn't)
they could revert, but people have a psychological
tendency to commit more strongly to bad decisions in
the face of evidence it was a bad decision.

 released and still has all these probs, trust me,
 I'll be one of the
 first in line to bitch, but it's not, this is cooker

Which in a few weeks will == 9.0.  Cooker and final
release are not two seperate things.  Final release is
a snapshot of Cooker.  This isn't like a development
fork where there's some other stable branch being
maintained (think Mozilla).

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Re: [Cooker] Sound card problem with mandrake-8.2

2002-04-19 Thread Jaimon Jose

This problem is solved with 'modprob'ing sound.  Thanks to Pierre Fortin for
suggesting that.

I have the same problem with another machine as i mentioned in the previous
mail. This is a Duron system with onboard SiS controller.  I get trident
driver while configuring.  Everything plays well( xmms, realplayer, alsaplay
etc. ) but no sound.  I tried removing alsa and loading trident driver
alone.  But it didn't help.  When I recompile the kernel along with trident
driver as part of kernel (instead of module), i get sound properly.  So, I'm
expecting some kind of conflict with modules.  Is it alsa?

Please find attached log files for more information.

Thanks,
--jaimon

On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 03:12:34PM +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
tvignaud Jaimon Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
tvignaud 
tvignaud  Appreciate your help in resolving this.
tvignaud 
tvignaud what reports aumix -S; aumix -L ?
tvignaud 
tvignaud -- 
tvignaud la marmotte est toute puissante (gwenole)

  


Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
usb-storage52236   0 
sd_mod 11644   0  (autoclean)
isofs  25792   1  (autoclean)
inflate_fs 19328   0  (autoclean) [isofs]
sr_mod 15160   2  (autoclean)
snd-synth-trident   7296   0  (autoclean) (unused)
snd-seq-instr   4992   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-trident]
snd-ainstr-simple   1636   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-trident]
snd-seq-midi-emul   4848   0  (autoclean) [snd-synth-trident]
snd-seq-midi3424   0  (autoclean) (unused)
snd-seq-oss25600   0  (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event  3184   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq40880   0  [snd-synth-trident snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi 
snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-pcm-oss18816   0 
snd-pcm-plugin 16080   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-mixer-oss   4704   0  [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-card-trident2848   0 
snd-trident15456   0  [snd-synth-trident snd-card-trident]
snd-pcm31616   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-trident]
snd-timer   8576   0  [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-ac97-codec 24896   0  [snd-trident]
snd-mixer  24328   0  [snd-mixer-oss snd-trident snd-ac97-codec]
snd-mpu401-uart 2512   0  [snd-card-trident snd-trident]
snd-rawmidi10112   0  [snd-seq-midi snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device  3948   0  [snd-synth-trident snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq 
snd-trident snd-rawmidi]
snd34272   1  [snd-seq-instr snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss 
snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss snd-card-trident 
snd-trident snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi 
snd-seq-device]
soundcore   4068   7  [snd]
af_packet  12456   0  (autoclean)
scanner 8992   0  (unused)
usb-ohci   19040   0  (unused)
usbcore63456   1  [usb-storage scanner usb-ohci]
sis900 12676   1  (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1   2816   2  (autoclean)
nls_cp850   3552   1  (autoclean)
vfat9788   1  (autoclean)
fat31384   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
supermount 62180   2  (autoclean)
ide-cd 27712   0 
cdrom  28288   0  [sr_mod ide-cd]
ide-scsi8032   1 
scsi_mod   92488   4  [usb-storage sd_mod sr_mod ide-scsi]
rtc 5880   0  (autoclean)
ext3   62092   2 
jbd39356   2  [ext3]


-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0070-007f : rtc
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : fpu
0170-0177 : ide1
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0376-0376 : ide1
03c0-03df : vga+
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f8-03ff : serial(auto)
0cf8-0cff : PCI conf1
b000-bfff : PCI Bus #01
  bc00-bc7f : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D
d400-d4ff : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet
  d400-d4ff : sis900
d800-d8ff : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator
  d800-d8ff : Trident 4DWave PCI
ff00-ff0f : Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
  ff00-ff07 : ide0
  ff08-ff0f : ide1


   CPU0   
  0: 378412  XT-PIC  timer
  1:   1589  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  5:262  XT-PIC  usb-ohci, usb-ohci
  8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
 11:   7350  XT-PIC  eth0, Trident 4DWave PCI
 12:  17888  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 14:  87571  XT-PIC  ide0
 15:551  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0 
LOC:  0 
ERR:  0
MIS:  0


00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 730 Host (rev 02)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
Memory at d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]

Re: [Cooker] Sound card problem with mandrake-8.2

2002-04-15 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Jaimon Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Appreciate your help in resolving this.

what reports aumix -S; aumix -L ?

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[Cooker] Sound card problem with mandrake-8.2

2002-04-11 Thread Jaimon Jose

I installed mandrake 8.2 on a  and added a sound
card (es1371) later.  Harddrake detected the sound card and installed
everything perfectly.  I can see the modules loaded, xmms plays without any
cribbing, but i don't get any sound out.  I tested the card and found that
card is fine.  I do have the same problem with another installation on a AMD
Duron with SiS chipset.  Here also, installation detected the card loaded
all drivers but I don't get any sound out.  Here are my configuration for
first system.

jjaimon::~lspcidrake -v -f
agpgart : Intel Corporation|440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge
[BRIDGE_HOST] (vendor:8086 device:7190)
unknown : Intel Corporation|440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge
[BRIDGE_PCI] (vendor:8086 device:7191)
eepro100: Intel Corporation|82559 [Ethernet Pro 100]
[NETWORK_ETHERNET] (vendor:8086 device:1229 subv:0e11 subd:b01e)
es1371  : Ensoniq|ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] [MULTIMEDIA_AUDIO]
(vendor:1274 device:1371)
unknown : Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 ISA [BRIDGE_ISA]
(vendor:8086 device:7110)
unknown : Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 IDE [STORAGE_IDE]
(vendor:8086 device:7111)
usb-uhci: unknown (8086/7112//) [SERIAL_USB]
sonypi  : Intel Corporation|82371AB PIIX4 ACPI - Bus Master IDE
Controller [BRIDGE_OTHER] (vendor:8086 device:7113)
Card:Matrox Millennium G200: Matrox|MGA G200 AGP [Millennium] AGP
[DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:102b device:0521 subv:102b subd:ff03)
unknown : Virtual|Hub [] (vendor: device:)

jjaimon::~lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
isofs  25792   0 (autoclean)
inflate_fs 19328   0 (autoclean) [isofs]
es1371 26656   0 (unused)
soundcore   4068   4 [es1371]
ac97_codec  9568   0 [es1371]
gameport1756   0 [es1371]
nls_cp437   4352   3 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1   2816   3 (autoclean)
smbfs  34304   3 (autoclean)
mga   100496   1
agpgart31552   3 (autoclean)
sg 30180   0 (autoclean) (unused)
st 27316   0 (autoclean) (unused)
sr_mod 15160   0 (autoclean) (unused)
sd_mod 11644   0 (autoclean) (unused)
scsi_mod   92488   4 (autoclean) [sg st sr_mod sd_mod]
parport_pc 22088   1 (autoclean)
lp  6464   0 (autoclean)
parport23968   1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
nfsd   69536   8 (autoclean)
nfs75388   4 (autoclean)
lockd  49344   1 (autoclean) [nfsd nfs]
sunrpc 62964   1 (autoclean) [nfsd nfs lockd]
af_packet  12488   0 (autoclean)
ip_vs  65400   0 (autoclean)
usb-uhci   21668   0 (unused)
usbcore59072   1 [usb-uhci]
eepro100   18096   1 (autoclean)
supermount 62180   2 (autoclean)
rtc 5912   0 (autoclean)
ext3   62092   2
jbd39356   2 [ext3]

Appreciate your help in resolving this.

Thanks,
--jaimon




Re: [Cooker] Sound ?

2002-03-16 Thread Juan Quintela

 john == John Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

john Hi there !
john I am just wondering, Why is it using ac97 with emu10k1 ?
john --
john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 
john 0.18, 06:21:21 Mar 5 2002 
john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 02:0a.0 
john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8069 found, 
john IO at 0xdf80-0xdf9f, IRQ 3 
john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 
john 0x8384:0x7608 (SigmaTel STAC9708) 
john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: SBLive! 5.1 card detected 
john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) succeeded 

I am not an expert in sound, but I can assure you that emu10k1
requires that you load the ac97_codec module before.

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[Cooker] Sound ?

2002-03-12 Thread John Moen

Hi there !
I am just wondering, Why is it using ac97 with emu10k1 ?
--
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 
0.18, 06:21:21 Mar 5 2002 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 02:0a.0 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8069 found, 
IO at 0xdf80-0xdf9f, IRQ 3 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 
0x8384:0x7608 (SigmaTel STAC9708) 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: SBLive! 5.1 card detected 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) succeeded 
-
- John Moen




[Cooker] Sound ?

2002-03-12 Thread John Moen

Hi there !
I am just wondering, Why is it using ac97 codec on emu10k1 ?
--
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 
0.18, 06:21:21 Mar 5 2002 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 02:0a.0 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8069 found, 
IO at 0xdf80-0xdf9f, IRQ 3 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 
0x8384:0x7608 (SigmaTel STAC9708) 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: SBLive! 5.1 card detected 
Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) succeeded 
-
- John Moen




[Cooker] sound problems fixed for final ?

2002-03-11 Thread Cosmic Flo

Sndconfig tool don't work with bêta4 (it provide a messagebox that 
soundcore.o module is not loaded).
Sound worked better in bêta3 !
And for the final ?

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Re: [Cooker] sound problems fixed for final ?

2002-03-11 Thread Cosmic Flo

Sound is very important !
Is anyone who can fix it ?

Many thanks,
  Cosmicflo

From: Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Cooker] sound problems fixed for final ?
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:59:33 +

Sndconfig tool don't work with bêta4 (it provide a messagebox that
soundcore.o module is not loaded).
Sound worked better in bêta3 !
And for the final ?

Thanks for your answers and for your work.

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Re: [Cooker] sound problems fixed for final ?

2002-03-11 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sound is very important !
 Is anyone who can fix it ?

sndconfig works perfectly to configure the GUS (classic, first
version) of my test machine.

PS: keeping yoann-like rest of the mail to preserve context; you
should answer after the questions for clarity

 Many thanks,
   Cosmicflo
 
 From: Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Cooker] sound problems fixed for final ?
 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:59:33 +
 
 Sndconfig tool don't work with bêta4 (it provide a messagebox that
 soundcore.o module is not loaded).
 Sound worked better in bêta3 !
 And for the final ?
 
 Thanks for your answers and for your work.
 
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Re: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-08 Thread Robby Stephenson

Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robby Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I've got nothing in /dev/sound. There's no /dev/snd or /dev/asound,
  which I thought would be there for alsa. There's no /dev/dsp or
  /dev/mixer which are old oss holdouts, I believe.

 as usual, lspcidrake -f -v.
 have you enabled both alsa  sound services ?

 you can try both snd-card-cmi-pci or cmpci modules

Looks like it was a classical prblem exists between keyboard and chair. I
guess the card wasn't seated properly. lspcidrake didn't show anything, so I
pulled out the card, stuck it in a different pci slot, and lo and behold,
after adding the lines in modules.conf, it worked!

Thanks for the prompt replies and help!
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Re: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-08 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Robby Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Looks like it was a classical prblem exists between keyboard and
 chair. I guess the card wasn't seated properly. lspcidrake didn't
 show anything,

uh?
i don't want to be impolite, but are you sure that the card was
properly inserted.
i've seen several time that if a pci card isn't put deeply in the
slot, the pci controller doesn't see it.
pixel had a graphic card which wasn't correctly plugged and one day
the card goes 1 militers out of the slot because pixel moves his pc;
the box seems freezed; when connected via ssh, we saw that X11 was
eating all cpu time and wasn't killable (was D-state because pci
writes were interrupted when card say goodbye).
he reboot but the box only say bip bip until we figure that the
card wasn't corretly plugged.

 so I pulled out the card, stuck it in a different pci slot, and lo
 and behold, after adding the lines in modules.conf, it worked!





[Cooker] Sound is broken again . .

2002-03-08 Thread Robert Fox

Gateway 9150XL notebook with CS461x chipset.

Fresh install - no sound under KDE.

Ran harddrake and tried to configure sound.  Appeared not to work until
I check the kmix settings and found all outputs set to MUTE and 0
volume.  There is definitely NO mixer after initial install, but after
running harddrake then rebooting - then setting the kmix volumes and
mute off - things work now.

This wasn't happening before.

Let me know if you need some logs or details.

Cheers,
R.Fox





Re: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-08 Thread Murray J. Root


 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robby Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Looks like it was a classical prblem exists between keyboard and
  chair. I guess the card wasn't seated properly. lspcidrake didn't
  show anything,
 
 uh?
 i don't want to be impolite, but are you sure that the card was
 properly inserted.

That's what card wasn't seated properly means - it wasn't inserted
into the slot correctly.

 i've seen several time that if a pci card isn't put deeply in the
 slot, the pci controller doesn't see it.
...

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[Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-07 Thread Robby Stephenson

Hi all,

I'm using beta4, and I just got a sound card to go in my newly assembly
computer. I ended up buying a cheap one, but I figured it'd be ok since the
box said linux supported. It's an audio excel av515m, using the c-media
8738 6-ch chipset. It came with a cmpci driver, but that's  also part of the
kernel, looks like. But anyway, I also saw that it is supported by alsa
using the snd-card-cmipci driver. Trouble is, I can't get anything to work.
Something's screwy with devfs.

I've got nothing in /dev/sound. There's no /dev/snd or /dev/asound, which I
thought would be there for alsa. There's no /dev/dsp or /dev/mixer which are
old oss holdouts, I believe.

DrakConf doesn't recognize that I have a sound card. It throws up four Via
Technologies Unknown lines under Other Devices in the hardware section,
along with another Unknown. It says to send the /proc/bus/* files to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which I can do, but I wanted to check with the
cooker list first. In the /proc/bus/pci directory, I have a devices file,
and two directories, 00, and 01. The only other pci device I have is a
netword card which is correctly identified. The 01 directory is nearly empty
with only a 00.0 file. The 00 directory has several.

Anyone have any ideas/suggestions? Should I be manually modifying the
/modules.conf file?

Oh, another thing, why does harddrake have an nVidia Corporation entry under
Other Devices? I have a GeForce3 Ti-200, and the only thing listed under
Videocards is generic VGA.

Thanks for any help,
Robby


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RE: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-07 Thread Borsenkow Andrej



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cooker-owner@linux-
 mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Robby Stephenson
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm using beta4, and I just got a sound card to go in my newly
assembly
 computer. I ended up buying a cheap one, but I figured it'd be ok
since the
 box said linux supported. It's an audio excel av515m, using the
c-media
 8738 6-ch chipset. It came with a cmpci driver, but that's  also part
of the
 kernel, looks like. But anyway, I also saw that it is supported by
alsa
 using the snd-card-cmipci driver. Trouble is, I can't get anything to
work.
 Something's screwy with devfs.
 
 I've got nothing in /dev/sound. There's no /dev/snd or /dev/asound,
which I
 thought would be there for alsa. There's no /dev/dsp or /dev/mixer
which are
 old oss holdouts, I believe.
 
 DrakConf doesn't recognize that I have a sound card. It throws up four
Via
 Technologies Unknown lines under Other Devices in the hardware
section,
 along with another Unknown. It says to send the /proc/bus/* files to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] which I can do, but I wanted to check with
the
 cooker list first. In the /proc/bus/pci directory, I have a devices
file,
 and two directories, 00, and 01. The only other pci device I have is a
 netword card which is correctly identified. The 01 directory is nearly
empty
 with only a 00.0 file. The 00 directory has several.
 
 Anyone have any ideas/suggestions? Should I be manually modifying the
 /modules.conf file?
 

Sure.

cat  /etc/modules.conf
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-cmipci
^D

and reboot.

If it does not work it means this card is not supported by this driver.

 Oh, another thing, why does harddrake 

forget harddrake. You may want search for harddrake in archives and then
you understand why.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-07 Thread Adrien Guichard

Robby Stephenson wrote:
   I also saw that it is supported by alsa using the snd-card-cmipci 
driver.
  Trouble is, I can't get anything to work. Something's screwy with devfs.

Hi,

I had same prb with the Mandrake 8.1.

1 - what give you a cat /proc/asound/sndstat ?

2 - I give you my modules.conf file for the same module (it is big, 
tune the options field if needed) :
[...]
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-cmipci
options snd-card-cmipci snd_index=0 snd_id=cmipci snd_dac_frame_size=4 
snd_adc_frame_size=4 snd_enable_midi=1 snd_enable_fm=1

# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
[...]

3 - Check in /etc/init.d/ that you have not the sound script file 
(only the alsa one).

4 - Check in /etc/security/console.perms that the line
/dev/snd/* \
has been added in the sound class by these fellow Mandrake developers.


I use 2 snd cards with Alsa drivers, it works perfectly for me. I can 
play 2 mp3 at different speed and I mix the 2 output, I plan to do 
something using Alsaplayer to change speed with joysticks/or hardware 
dev using the 2 joystick ports.

Adrien.





Re: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-07 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Robby Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got nothing in /dev/sound. There's no /dev/snd or /dev/asound,
 which I thought would be there for alsa. There's no /dev/dsp or
 /dev/mixer which are old oss holdouts, I believe.

as usual, lspcidrake -f -v.
have you enabled both alsa  sound services ?

you can try both snd-card-cmi-pci or cmpci modules





Re: [Cooker] sound card problems, audioexcel 515M

2002-03-07 Thread mandrake

On Thu, 07 Mar, at 16:10:48 +0100, Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] done 
said:
 Robby Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I've got nothing in /dev/sound. There's no /dev/snd or /dev/asound,
  which I thought would be there for alsa. There's no /dev/dsp or
  /dev/mixer which are old oss holdouts, I believe.
 
 as usual, lspcidrake -f -v.
 have you enabled both alsa  sound services ?
 
 you can try both snd-card-cmi-pci or cmpci modules

Well, I was able to get around the problems I was having in beta{2,3}
with sound on my VAIO laptops (ymfpci kernel module) by hacking
modules.conf, but I am having *NO* luck in doing so in beta4!

No matter what kernel I boot into, devfs or not, I can't get any sound.
The only adjustment aumix has is for Mic.  Not good.  The kernel
module's loaded (using the default method as well as the work-around I
had for the earlier beta releases) and '/etc/init.d/{alsa,sound} status'
both say that sound's loaded.

In my case, with the stock 2.4.18-2mdk kernel, there _is_
/dev/{dsp,mixer}, but no /dev/sound or /dev/asound (if that matters).
Quite frustrating.

-Charlie
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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-28 Thread Thierry Vignaud

nDiScReEt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have the same problem with my sblive soundcard. I tried the above
 suggestions and I see the following in my aumix: only the mic
 option. Nothing else. I can play music cds form xmms but nothing like
 wav, mp3, or rm. lsmod produces the following modules for sound;
 soundcore, audio, sound, ac97_codec, and emu10k1. I have arts
 installed. I did a rpm -qa|grep oss and found nothing. I use
 WindowMaker and blackbox.HTH

i want /var/log/dmesg, the results of lsmod, aumix -q





Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-28 Thread mandrake

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 22:54:58 +0100, Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] done 
said:
 
  When I do an /etc/init.d/{sound,alsa} status, they both say Sound
  loaded and I can see the appropriate kernel modules are, indeed,
  loaded.  I simply can't find out why there's no sound.  Everything
  looks as if it should work fine.
 
 please give me the output of lsmod and aumix -q

You got it.  Please see the attached.  I've also included dmesg as you'd
also asked for it as well as my /etc/modules.conf.

-Charlie
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vol 100, 100, P
pcm 100, 100
speaker 100, 100
line 100, 100, P
mic 0, 0, R
cd 0, 0, P
rec 84, 84
igain 0, 0
line1 0, 0, P
line2 0, 0, P
dig2 88, 88
dig3 0, 0
phin 0, 0, P
phout 0, 0
video 0, 0, P


Linux version 2.4.17-16mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.96 2731 
(Mandrake Linux 8.2 2.96-0.74mdk)) #1 Fri Feb 8 16:00:03 CET 2002
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009f800 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000e8400 - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 03ff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 03ff - 03fff800 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 03fff800 - 0400 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
On node 0 totalpages: 16368
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 12272 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Could not enable APIC!
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=304 quiet devfs=mount
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 446.682 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 891.28 BogoMIPS
Memory: 61900k/65472k available (1160k kernel code, 3184k reserved, 330k data, 256k 
init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 0383f9ff  , vendor = 0
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 256K
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 0383f9ff   
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0383f9ff   
CPU: Common caps: 0383f9ff   
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 01
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd99e, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Unknown bridge resource 0: assuming transparent
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug  Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Sony Vaio laptop detected.
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16)
Starting kswapd
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.5.0 initialized
devfs: v1.10 (20020120) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
devfs: boot_options: 0x1
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xfd00, mapped to 0xc480, size 2496k
vesafb: mode is 800x600x16, linelength=1600, pages=1
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:ae10
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: directcolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
Looking for splash picture found (800x600, 13343 bytes).
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 90x31
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ 
SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
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block: 128 slots per queue, batch=32
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32000K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcb0-0xfcb7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfcb8-0xfcbf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: TOSHIBA MK8113MAT, ATA DISK drive
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda: 16006410 sectors (8195 MB), CHS=996/255/63, UDMA(33)
Partition check:
 

Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-28 Thread newslett



No, desktop, Pentium II 300 MHz, 512 MB SDRAM, Asus P3V133 PC 133 Motherboard,
SB 16 Soundcard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  On Thu, 28 Feb, at 10:08:01 +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
  
   Same here, ever since the first beta install I've had no sound...I've   tried everything the list has reccomended.

Is this also on a laptop?






Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Stefan Siegel

Es schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I've noticed this on beta2 and now on beta3, but I just can't get sound
 to work at all on the laptops on which I have them installed.
 
 It worked fine in 8.0 and 8.1 and I can't tell exactly _why_ there's no
 sound (the kernel module's loaded, the volume and everything is up), but
 there's just nothing there.  It thinks it's playing, but there's just no
 love.
 
 This is using xmms playing mp3s.  I haven't tried playing an audio cd,
 but I don't know if it'd make a difference.

Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.

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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread danny

Hmm, I noticed that when using ALSA, the mixer settings in kmix wouldn't
work correctly, in aumix however, the master was set to 0 (while in kmix 
it was 60 or so) after turning this up, it worked.

Danny


On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've noticed this on beta2 and now on beta3, but I just can't get sound
 to work at all on the laptops on which I have them installed.
 
 It worked fine in 8.0 and 8.1 and I can't tell exactly _why_ there's no
 sound (the kernel module's loaded, the volume and everything is up), but
 there's just nothing there.  It thinks it's playing, but there's just no
 love.
 
 This is using xmms playing mp3s.  I haven't tried playing an audio cd,
 but I don't know if it'd make a difference.
 
 -Charlie
 





Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread mandrake

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:47:31 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 Hmm, I noticed that when using ALSA, the mixer settings in kmix wouldn't
 work correctly, in aumix however, the master was set to 0 (while in kmix 
 it was 60 or so) after turning this up, it worked.

Strange.  I did this as both my regular user and as root to no avail.  I
don't know if the two laptops on which I was testing are using the same
driver or not -- I'll check into that later today.

Thanks for the replies,

-Charlie
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[Cooker] sound problem with KDE

2002-02-27 Thread Guillaume Rousse

A curious problem i have with KDE since about one or two weeks: artsd is no 
more lauched automatically at session start.
However, i have sound (intro music, events sound) and mixer is OK, so i guess 
KDE fails to launch arts and default using OSS instead.
I tested this behaviour either from runlevel 3 or 5.
I'm joining my .xsession-error file, even if i didn't notice anything suspect 
there.
-- 
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GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html


WARNING: imwheel is not checking/writing a pid file, BE CAREFUL!
  An imwheel may be running already.
  Two or more imwheel processes on the same X display,
  or simultaneously using a wheel fifo,
  will not operate as expected!
INFO: imwheel started (pid=1794)
/home/guillaume/.imwheelrc: No such file or directory
kdeinit: Launched DCOPServer, pid = 1873 result = 0
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1873' - number of clients is now 1
DCOPServer up and running.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1873'
kdeinit: Launched KLauncher, pid = 1877 result = 0
DCOP: register 'klauncher' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'klauncher'
DCOP: register 'klauncher' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: new daemon klauncher
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1877' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1877'
kdeinit: Launched KDED, pid = 1880 result = 0
DCOP: register 'kded' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'kded'
DCOP: register 'kded' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1880' - number of clients is now 2
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1881' - number of clients is now 3
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kbuildsycoca' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'kbuildsycoca' - number of clients is now 4
DCOP: unregister 'kbuildsycoca'
kdeinit: PID 1882 terminated.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1881'
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kconf_update' from launcher.
kdeinit: PID 1883 terminated.
DCOP: new daemon kded
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1880'
kdeinit: PID 1880 terminated.
kdeinit: opened connection to :0.0
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1869' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1869'
kdeinit: relocation error: /lib/libsafe.so.2: undefined symbol: __iswspace
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1894' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1894'
DCOP: register 'ksplash' - number of clients is now 1
DCOP: register 'ksmserver' - number of clients is now 2
_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kbuildsycoca' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'kbuildsycoca' - number of clients is now 3
DCOP: unregister 'kbuildsycoca'
kdeinit: PID 1898 terminated.
kdeinit: Got SETENV 
'SESSION_MANAGER=local/bononcini.snv.jussieu.fr:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1896' from klauncher.
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'knotify' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'knotify' - number of clients is now 3
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kwin' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1899' - number of clients is now 4
DCOP: new daemon knotify
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1901' - number of clients is now 4
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1901'
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1901' - number of clients is now 4
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1901'
DCOP: register 'kwin' - number of clients is now 4
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kwrited' from launcher.
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kdesktop' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'kwrited' - number of clients is now 5
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1906' - number of clients is now 6
DCOP: register 'kdesktop' - number of clients is now 7
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1908' - number of clients is now 8
DCOP: new daemon kwrited
kdeinit: PID 1906 terminated.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1906'
kdeinit: PID 1908 terminated.
kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'krootwarning' from launcher.
library=krootwarning.la: No file names krootwarning.la found in paths.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1908'
Could not load library! Trying exec
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kicker' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'kicker' - number of clients is now 6
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1917' - number of clients is now 7
kdeinit: PID 1916 terminated.
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kio_file' from launcher.
kdeinit: Got EXEC_NEW 'kio_file' from launcher.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1899'kdeinit: PID 1899 terminated.

kdeinit: PID 1917 terminated.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1917'
kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'klipper' from launcher.
kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'xmms' from launcher.
library=xmms.la: No file names xmms.la found in paths.
DCOP: register 'klipper' - number of clients is now 6
Could not load library! Trying exec
kdeinit: Got EXT_EXEC 'konsole' from launcher.
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1928' - number of clients is now 7
kdeinit: PID 1930 terminated.
DCOP: register 'anonymous-1931' - number of clients is now 8
kdeinit: PID 1928 terminated.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-1928'
DCOP: unregister 'ksplash'

Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Leon Brooks

On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.

 Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high as
 it could go, but still nothing.

All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] sound problem with KDE

2002-02-27 Thread David BAUDENS

On Wednesday 27 February 2002 16:03, you wrote:
 A curious problem i have with KDE since about one or two weeks: artsd
 is no more lauched automatically at session start.
 However, i have sound (intro music, events sound) and mixer is OK, so
 i guess KDE fails to launch arts and default using OSS instead.
 I tested this behaviour either from runlevel 3 or 5.
 I'm joining my .xsession-error file, even if i didn't notice anything
 suspect there.

??? I don't understand.

What means artsd is no more lauched automatically at session start? 
If you have welcome sound when KDE start, arts is launched.

-- 
David BAUDENS
MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com




Re: [Cooker] sound problem with KDE

2002-02-27 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Ainsi parlait David BAUDENS :
 On Wednesday 27 February 2002 16:03, you wrote:
  A curious problem i have with KDE since about one or two weeks: artsd
  is no more lauched automatically at session start.
  However, i have sound (intro music, events sound) and mixer is OK, so
  i guess KDE fails to launch arts and default using OSS instead.
  I tested this behaviour either from runlevel 3 or 5.
  I'm joining my .xsession-error file, even if i didn't notice anything
  suspect there.

 ??? I don't understand.

 What means artsd is no more lauched automatically at session start?
 If you have welcome sound when KDE start, arts is launched.
That why i spoke of a *curious* problem :-)
ps -aux | grep arts - no result
xmms with arts output plugin - no sound
artsd - launch arts without complaining it is already running
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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread nDiScReEt

Leon Brooks wrote:

 On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 
Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.

 
Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high as
it could go, but still nothing.

 
 All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?
 
 Cheers; Leon
 
 
 
 

I have the same problem with my sblive soundcard. I tried the above 
suggestions and I see the following in my aumix: only the mic option. 
Nothing else. I can play music cds form xmms but nothing like wav, mp3, 
or rm. lsmod produces the following modules for sound; soundcore, 
audio, sound, ac97_codec, and emu10k1. I have arts installed. I did a 
rpm -qa|grep oss and found nothing. I use WindowMaker and blackbox.HTH

altoine





Re: [Cooker] sound problem with KDE

2002-02-27 Thread Pierre Fortin

On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:07:56 +0100 Guillaume Rousse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ps -aux | grep arts - no result
  ^^^
Can't be trusted!  Use:

ps -auxww | grep foo instead.
   ^^




Re: [Cooker] sound problem with KDE

2002-02-27 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Ainsi parlait Pierre Fortin :
 On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:07:56 +0100 Guillaume Rousse

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ps -aux | grep arts - no result

   ^^^
 Can't be trusted!  Use:

 ps -auxww | grep foo instead.
^^
Thanks for the tip, but it doesn't make arts alive, unfortunatly :-(
-- 
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GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html




Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread danny


On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, nDiScReEt wrote:
 I have the same problem with my sblive soundcard. I tried the above 
 suggestions and I see the following in my aumix: only the mic option. 
 Nothing else. I can play music cds form xmms but nothing like wav, mp3, 
 or rm. lsmod produces the following modules for sound; soundcore, 
 audio, sound, ac97_codec, and emu10k1. I have arts installed. I did a 
 rpm -qa|grep oss and found nothing. I use WindowMaker and blackbox.HTH
 
 altoine
This is most peculiar, what kind of sblive is it? What if you configure 
alsa do be the driver? 
You do not happen to have emu10k1-tools installed with a strange 
configu file which hoses the normal mixer settings of you card?
You could try to run standard configfile from emu10k1-tools to see
if it helps?

Or am I completly wrong here and could devfs do such a thing?


Danny

 
 





Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread mandrake

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 23:06:26 +0800, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
 On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
  Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.
 
  Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high as
  it could go, but still nothing.
 
 All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?

Yep, I turned everything up full blash and still no love.  I fired up
alsamixer and turned everything up there too, but nada.

Quite frustrating,

-Charlie
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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread newslett



Same here, ever since the first beta install I've had no sound...I've tried
everything the list has reccomended.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  On Wed, 27 Feb, at 23:06:26 +0800, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
  
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
  

  Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.
  
  
  
Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high asit could go, but still nothing.

All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?

Yep, I turned everything up full blash and still no love.  I fired upalsamixer and turned everything up there too, but nada.Quite frustrating,-Charlie






Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread nDiScReEt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, nDiScReEt wrote:
 
I have the same problem with my sblive soundcard. I tried the above 
suggestions and I see the following in my aumix: only the mic option. 
Nothing else. I can play music cds form xmms but nothing like wav, mp3, 
or rm. lsmod produces the following modules for sound; soundcore, 
audio, sound, ac97_codec, and emu10k1. I have arts installed. I did a 
rpm -qa|grep oss and found nothing. I use WindowMaker and blackbox.HTH

altoine

 This is most peculiar, what kind of sblive is it? What if you configure 
 alsa do be the driver? 
 You do not happen to have emu10k1-tools installed with a strange 
 configu file which hoses the normal mixer settings of you card?
 You could try to run standard configfile from emu10k1-tools to see
 if it helps?
 
 Or am I completly wrong here and could devfs do such a thing?
 
 
 Danny
 
 

 
 
 
 

I don't have the file emu10k1-tools. I will install it and let you know 
what I get then.

Altoine





Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Thierry Vignaud

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Same here, ever since the first beta install I've had no
 sound...I've tried everything the list has reccomended.

have you enabled alsa  sound services ?





Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread mandrake

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 22:22:29 +0100, Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] done 
said:
 
  Same here, ever since the first beta install I've had no
  sound...I've tried everything the list has reccomended.
 
 have you enabled alsa  sound services ?

When I do an /etc/init.d/{sound,alsa} status, they both say Sound
loaded and I can see the appropriate kernel modules are, indeed,
loaded.  I simply can't find out why there's no sound.  Everything
looks as if it should work fine.
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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread mandrake

On Thu, 28 Feb, at 10:08:01 +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] done 
said:
 
Same here, ever since the first beta install I've had no sound...I've
tried everything the list has reccomended.

Is this also on a laptop?
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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Thierry Vignaud

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Same here, ever since the first beta install I've had no
   sound...I've tried everything the list has reccomended.
  
  have you enabled alsa  sound services ?

 When I do an /etc/init.d/{sound,alsa} status, they both say Sound
 loaded and I can see the appropriate kernel modules are, indeed,
 loaded.  I simply can't find out why there's no sound.  Everything
 looks as if it should work fine.

please give me the output of lsmod and aumix -q





Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread mandrake

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 22:54:58 +0100, Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] done 
said:
 
  When I do an /etc/init.d/{sound,alsa} status, they both say Sound
  loaded and I can see the appropriate kernel modules are, indeed,
  loaded.  I simply can't find out why there's no sound.  Everything
  looks as if it should work fine.
 
 please give me the output of lsmod and aumix -q

Well, after booting into a custom 2.4.17 kernel I built from source and
hacking the /etc/modules.conf, I've gotten it to work!  

I also had to disable devfs as when enabled, there wasn't any /dev/mixer
which was apparently causing some problems.

So here's what my new /etc/modules.conf looks like:

alias snd-card-ymfpci ymfpci
alias sound-slot-0 ymfpci

I'll try booting back into the stock kernel later and I'll send you the
requested output.

Cheers,

-Charlie
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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Jason Straight

Dang, don't complain, they'll change it and mine works now, I don't care 
about yours! :P

[junfan@iq junfan]$ rpm -qa | grep arts
libarts2-2.2.2-41mdk
arts-2.2.2-41mdk

It's been stable for me the last few days, a week ago was another story.



On Wednesday 27 February 2002 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 27 Feb, at 23:06:26 +0800, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] done 
said:
  On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
   Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.
  
   Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high as
   it could go, but still nothing.
 
  All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?

 Yep, I turned everything up full blash and still no love.  I fired up
 alsamixer and turned everything up there too, but nada.

 Quite frustrating,

 -Charlie

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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Jason Straight

Doh - replied to the wrong sound thread... this one wasn't arts sorry.

Same still applies.. though.


On Wednesday 27 February 2002 18:03, Jason Straight wrote:
 Dang, don't complain, they'll change it and mine works now, I don't care
 about yours! :P

 [junfan@iq junfan]$ rpm -qa | grep arts
 libarts2-2.2.2-41mdk
 arts-2.2.2-41mdk

 It's been stable for me the last few days, a week ago was another story.

 On Wednesday 27 February 2002 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 27 Feb, at 23:06:26 +0800, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  done

 said:
   On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.
   
Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high
as it could go, but still nothing.
  
   All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?
 
  Yep, I turned everything up full blash and still no love.  I fired up
  alsamixer and turned everything up there too, but nada.
 
  Quite frustrating,
 
  -Charlie

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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Doug McClendon

What output are you using?  If spdif, then perhaps

emu-config --digital

or

emu-config --analog

are what you are looking for.  The symptoms of the wrong
setting would be as you described (everything looks ok, but
silence).

(from emu10k1-tools*rpm)

-dmc

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 23:06:26 +0800, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:

On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:

Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.

Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high as
it could go, but still nothing.

All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?


Yep, I turned everything up full blash and still no love.  I fired up
alsamixer and turned everything up there too, but nada.

Quite frustrating,

-Charlie







Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread Adrian Custer

Hey everyone,

I have the identical problem with beta2. I was hoping some fix would be
posted. I've read everything I could on sound issues but don't
understand how to proceed. Things look all right but xmms doesn't play
any sound. To get rid of devfs, I have to rebuild the kernel? is a
kernel without devfs unable to do certain things?

Here's what I could figure you might want.


Hardware is a home buit box:
AMD K6-II 550Mhz
ATX ASUS P5A motherboard
AOpen sound card ymfpci chip.

[acuster@tsetse ~]$ uname -a
Linux tsetse.lab-net 2.4.17-17mdk #1 Wed Feb 13 14:03:54 CET 2002 i586
unknown


[acuster@tsetse ~]$ aumix -q
vol 80, 80
pcm 80, 80
speaker 67, 67
line 67, 67, P
mic 66, 66, R
cd 80, 80, P
igain 67, 67, P
line1 67, 67, P
phin 67, 67, P
phout 67, 67
video 67, 67, P

[acuster@tsetse ~]$ /sbin/lsmod 
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
sg 30180   0 (autoclean) (unused)
st 27316   0 (autoclean) (unused)
sr_mod 15160   0 (autoclean) (unused)
sd_mod 11644   0 (autoclean) (unused)
scsi_mod   92488   4 (autoclean) [sg st sr_mod sd_mod]
ymfpci 41060   0
ac97_codec  9568   0 [ymfpci]
uart401 6336   0 [ymfpci]
sound  57292   0 [uart401]
soundcore   4068   4 [ymfpci sound]
lp  6464   0
parport_pc 22088   1
parport23968   1 [lp parport_pc]
af_packet  12488   0 (autoclean)
tulip  40416   1 (autoclean)
rtc 5912   0 (autoclean)
ext3   62092   1
jbd39260   1 [ext3]


[acuster@tsetse ~]$ rpm -qa | grep arts
libarts2-devel-2.2.2-41mdk
arts-2.2.2-41mdk
xmms-arts-0.4-7mdk
libarts2-2.2.2-41mdk

[acuster@tsetse ~]$ rpm -qa | grep oss
[acuster@tsetse ~]$ 

[acuster@tsetse ~]$ ls -l /dev/mixer
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   11 Feb 27 23:55 /dev/mixer -
sound/mixer
[acuster@tsetse ~]$ ls -l /dev/dsp
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root9 Feb 27 23:55 /dev/dsp -
sound/dsp
[acuster@tsetse ~]$ ls -l /dev/sound/mixer 
crw---1 acuster  audio 14,   0 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sound/mixer
[acuster@tsetse ~]$ ls -l /dev/sound/dsp
crw---1 acuster  audio 14,   3 Dec 31  1969 /dev/sound/dsp


Is this of any help?

adrian





Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-27 Thread nDiScReEt

Jason Straight wrote:

 Dang, don't complain, they'll change it and mine works now, I don't care 
 about yours! :P
 
 [junfan@iq junfan]$ rpm -qa | grep arts
 libarts2-2.2.2-41mdk
 arts-2.2.2-41mdk
 
 It's been stable for me the last few days, a week ago was another story.
 
 
 
 On Wednesday 27 February 2002 15:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
On Wed, 27 Feb, at 23:06:26 +0800, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] done 

 said:
 
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 27 Feb, at 09:37:23 +0100, Stefan Siegel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:

Start aumix to see if the master volume is set to 0.

Yeah, that was my first thought too.  I turned everything up as high as
it could go, but still nothing.

All unmuted? Used alsamixer for an ALSA system?

Yep, I turned everything up full blash and still no love.  I fired up
alsamixer and turned everything up there too, but nada.

Quite frustrating,

-Charlie

 

I don't have arts installed but I have libarts, maybe that is my 
problem. I will try that out first. Then install emu10k1-tools and run 
that program. We will get down to the bothem of this yet. I don't 
understand it though as my setup had worked under beta1. In beta2 I hda 
to configure it for oss sound. This time around instead of doing a full 
install, I humored an upgrade. I don't understand why it would take away 
my sound. Well at least not for the cd.





[Cooker] Sound problems in 8.2betas

2002-02-26 Thread mandrake

I've noticed this on beta2 and now on beta3, but I just can't get sound
to work at all on the laptops on which I have them installed.

It worked fine in 8.0 and 8.1 and I can't tell exactly _why_ there's no
sound (the kernel module's loaded, the volume and everything is up), but
there's just nothing there.  It thinks it's playing, but there's just no
love.

This is using xmms playing mp3s.  I haven't tried playing an audio cd,
but I don't know if it'd make a difference.

-Charlie
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RE: [Cooker] sound in KDE

2002-02-18 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, guran wrote:
 
   Does noatun work when you click on musical file?
 
  I located .mp3 and got the sound from FlightGear and clicked on
  that and noatun came up but I had no sound in my head-set.
 
 That's a problem here as well. Sound works fine everywhere now,
besides
 when I try to play an mp3 with Noatun. Noatun doesn't seem to crash,
but
 it just stops, refusing to play.
 

I remember some obscure setting in noatun that is called (if I  am not
mistaken) Use fast hardware volume control. Could you play with it if
it makes any difference? It did work for me once, but it was long ago I
have tried it last time.

-andrej




[Cooker] sound sometimes crashing

2002-02-18 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen

The sound daemon crashed in ML 8.2b1, as also
earlier reported to this list. That is, sometimes it
did, sometimes not. most often it did (I booted
the system maybe 10 times.) I did not see any response
to this problem, and the qa.mandrakeasoft.com system seems
to be out of order.

Kind regards
keld




Re: [Cooker] sound in KDE

2002-02-18 Thread Jeremy Salch


If you open a terminal and run artsd then go into another terminal and run 
noatun you will see that noatun is causing the sound server to crash.  Why it 
does that I don't know but that is what i've seen.  So from that I'm not sure 
weather its a noatun problem or a arts problem




On Monday 18 February 2002 02:20 am, you wrote:
  On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, guran wrote:
Does noatun work when you click on musical file?
  
   I located .mp3 and got the sound from FlightGear and clicked on
   that and noatun came up but I had no sound in my head-set.
 
  That's a problem here as well. Sound works fine everywhere now,

 besides

  when I try to play an mp3 with Noatun. Noatun doesn't seem to crash,

 but

  it just stops, refusing to play.

 I remember some obscure setting in noatun that is called (if I  am not
 mistaken) Use fast hardware volume control. Could you play with it if
 it makes any difference? It did work for me once, but it was long ago I
 have tried it last time.

 -andrej




Re: [Cooker] sound in KDE

2002-02-18 Thread Fabrice FACORAT

le lun 18-02-2002 à 15:05, Jeremy Salch a écrit :
 
 If you open a terminal and run artsd then go into another terminal and run 
 noatun you will see that noatun is causing the sound server to crash.  Why it 
 does that I don't know but that is what i've seen.  So from that I'm not sure 
 weather its a noatun problem or a arts problem

really when I see all this pb I wonder why KDE develop arts and noatun.
At this time it's more painfull than helpfull/usefull !
Many times newbies got pb with this
 
I just can hope that alsa default inclusion in kernel will provide full
duplex for every soundcard so that we no longer need to use arts to mix
sound input ( even if arts got others advantages )

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[Cooker] sound in KDE

2002-02-17 Thread guran

Hi

Version:(fmirror ftp.uninett.no)
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020217  7:24
/ChangeLog/1.652/Sat Feb 16 21:06:45 2002//

Thanks, the starting of KDE now is nice with sound and no sign of /dev/dsp pb.
RealPlayer and sound streaming works fine too.
Still have intermittent sound in FlightGear, might be my old Creative SB ISA 
PNP AWE64.

N.B. When you write up the dokumentation for 8.2 I would like to have one 
part that specifically deals with how to change to the ALSA set, and 
preferably a deep introduction to all its advanced features.

regards
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Re: [Cooker] sound in KDE

2002-02-17 Thread David BAUDENS

On Sunday 17 February 2002 17:13, you wrote:
 Hi

 Version:  (fmirror ftp.uninett.no)
 Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020217  7:24
 /ChangeLog/1.652/Sat Feb 16 21:06:45 2002//

 Thanks, the starting of KDE now is nice with sound and no sign of
 /dev/dsp pb. RealPlayer and sound streaming works fine too.

/.../

Does noatun work when you click on musical file?

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Re: [Cooker] sound in KDE

2002-02-17 Thread guran

On Sunday 17 February 2002 5:33 pm, David BAUDENS wrote:
 On Sunday 17 February 2002 17:13, you wrote:
  Hi
 
  Version:(fmirror ftp.uninett.no)
  Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020217  7:24
  /ChangeLog/1.652/Sat Feb 16 21:06:45 2002//
 
  Thanks, the starting of KDE now is nice with sound and no sign of
  /dev/dsp pb. RealPlayer and sound streaming works fine too.

 /.../

 Does noatun work when you click on musical file?
Sorry, it was ski-relay from Salt-Lake-City, and I don't have any mp3 on my 
computer, so I located .mp3 and got the sound from FlightGear and clicked on 
that and noatun came up but I had no sound in my head-set.

regards
guran


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Re: [Cooker] sound in KDE

2002-02-17 Thread Mattias Dahlberg

On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, guran wrote:

  Does noatun work when you click on musical file?

 I located .mp3 and got the sound from FlightGear and clicked on
 that and noatun came up but I had no sound in my head-set.

That's a problem here as well. Sound works fine everywhere now, besides
when I try to play an mp3 with Noatun. Noatun doesn't seem to crash, but
it just stops, refusing to play.

Regards,
Mattias





Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Salch

I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of KDE 
that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with MDK8.1 to the 
current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said that their test 
machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5 computers and they all 
had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the arts server then crash itself





On Wednesday 30 January 2002 01:32 am, you wrote:
 I have not had this problem with the previous kde's
 but tonight's broke my sound also.

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes, I get the same thing but I have an additional
  problem.  After the
  last update (to 8.2 beta plus a couple of cooker
  updates since) it lost
  my soundcard or rather, didn't find it on upgrade.
  I ran sndconfig to
  try and set it up, which has always worked before (I
  have a Sound
  Blaster compatible soundcard) but now it just comes
  up with all sorts of
  errors...SO, in short, for now I'm soundless.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jason
 
  Jeremy Salch wrote:
  With the latest update my startup sound works but
 
  it gives me the error that
 
  /dev/dsp is allready in use and it is going to use
 
  /dev/null  but then it
 
  still makes the sound *sometimes*   and the sound
 
  in the control panel works
 
  if i push it like 2 times.   Also Kde Media player
 
  doesn't work still.   it
 
  crashes the arts server when i launch it
  
  On Monday 28 January 2002 01:38 pm, you wrote:
  It seems since after the last KDE update from
 
  Cooker
 
  th startup sound and the test sound inside the
 
  SoundServer
 
  controll panel doesn't work. XMMS can play
 
  throught Arts
 
  and the KDE CD Player works fine too. Anyone else
 
  had
 
  this problem?
  
  /MattB

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Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Rainer Koschnick

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 04:50 pm, you wrote:
 I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of KDE
 that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with MDK8.1 to
 the current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said that their
 test machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5 computers and they
 all had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the arts server then crash
 itself

Apart from the fact that noatun isn't working for me either, I am having 
another problem.  Arts wouldn't work after starting up KDE.  I have to 
restart it from control panel in order to get sound.  I am always using
the latest cooker packages here and the problem started to appear 2 or 3 days 
ago.

Rgds,
Rainer




Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Jeremy Salch

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 11:56 am, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 January 2002 04:50 pm, you wrote:
  I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of
  KDE that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with
  MDK8.1 to the current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said
  that their test machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5
  computers and they all had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the arts
  server then crash itself

 Apart from the fact that noatun isn't working for me either, I am having
 another problem.  Arts wouldn't work after starting up KDE.  I have to
 restart it from control panel in order to get sound.  I am always using
 the latest cooker packages here and the problem started to appear 2 or 3
 days ago.

 Rgds,
 Rainer

that is about what happened to me   but I just upgraded the kernel to 
2.4.17-11 and it seems to have stoped that problem.

Give it a try and see if it works ?




Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-30 Thread Rainer Koschnick

On Wednesday 30 January 2002 07:41 pm, you wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 January 2002 11:56 am, you wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 January 2002 04:50 pm, you wrote:
   I've had the problem with Media player not working in every install of
   KDE that I have had with Mandrake from the stock set that came with
   MDK8.1 to the current cooker.  I don't understand it because they said
   that their test machines work fine but i've installed mandrake on 5
   computers and they all had the same problem.  Noatun would crash the
   arts server then crash itself
 
  Apart from the fact that noatun isn't working for me either, I am having
  another problem.  Arts wouldn't work after starting up KDE.  I have to
  restart it from control panel in order to get sound.  I am always using
  the latest cooker packages here and the problem started to appear 2 or 3
  days ago.
 
  Rgds,
  Rainer

 that is about what happened to me   but I just upgraded the kernel to
 2.4.17-11 and it seems to have stoped that problem.

 Give it a try and see if it works ?

Just updated to 2.4.17-12 and sound seems to work fine now :)
Thanks for your help!

Rainer




[Cooker] Sound still dead with latest cooker

2002-01-30 Thread newslett


Hi all,

Don't know if any of you are still having this problem but as of the 
latest cooker (including kernel update to 2.4.17-12) I still have no 
sound with my Sound Blaster. On KDE startup I am still getting:

device /dev/dsp can't be opened (device or resource busy)

The sound server will continue, using the null output device

sndconfig comes up with a variety of errors when different SB drivers 
are attempted. My sound has been dead since I installed 8.2 beta.

Regards,

Jason







Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-29 Thread newslett



Yes, I get the same thing but I have an additional problem. After the last
update (to 8.2 beta plus a couple of cooker updates since) it lost my soundcard
or rather, didn't find it on upgrade. I ran sndconfig to try and set it
up, which has always worked before (I have a Sound Blaster compatible soundcard)
but now it just comes up with all sorts of errors...SO, in short, for now
I'm soundless.

Regards,

Jason

Jeremy Salch wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  With the latest update my startup sound works but it gives me the error that /dev/dsp is allready in use and it is going to use /dev/null  but then it still makes the sound *sometimes*   and the sound in the control panel works if i push it like 2 times.   Also Kde Media player doesn't work still.   it crashes the arts server when i launch it On Monday 28 January 2002 01:38 pm, you wrote:
  
It seems since after the last KDE update from Cookerth startup sound and the test sound inside the SoundServercontroll panel doesn't work. XMMS can play throught Artsand the KDE CD Player works fine too. Anyone else hadthis problem?/MattB








Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-29 Thread SI Reasoning

I have not had this problem with the previous kde's
but tonight's broke my sound also.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I get the same thing but I have an additional
 problem.  After the 
 last update (to 8.2 beta plus a couple of cooker
 updates since) it lost 
 my soundcard or rather, didn't find it on upgrade. 
 I ran sndconfig to 
 try and set it up, which has always worked before (I
 have a Sound 
 Blaster compatible soundcard) but now it just comes
 up with all sorts of 
 errors...SO, in short, for now I'm soundless.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jason
 
 Jeremy Salch wrote:
 
 With the latest update my startup sound works but
 it gives me the error that 
 /dev/dsp is allready in use and it is going to use
 /dev/null  but then it 
 still makes the sound *sometimes*   and the sound
 in the control panel works 
 if i push it like 2 times.   Also Kde Media player
 doesn't work still.   it 
 crashes the arts server when i launch it 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Monday 28 January 2002 01:38 pm, you wrote:
 
 
 It seems since after the last KDE update from
 Cooker
 th startup sound and the test sound inside the
 SoundServer
 controll panel doesn't work. XMMS can play
 throught Arts
 and the KDE CD Player works fine too. Anyone else
 had
 this problem?
 
 /MattB
 
 
 
 

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[Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-28 Thread Tech At Mathco Dot Com

It seems since after the last KDE update from Cooker
th startup sound and the test sound inside the SoundServer
controll panel doesn't work. XMMS can play throught Arts
and the KDE CD Player works fine too. Anyone else had
this problem?

/MattB







Re: [Cooker] Sound gone from KDE after last update

2002-01-28 Thread Jeremy Salch


With the latest update my startup sound works but it gives me the error that 
/dev/dsp is allready in use and it is going to use /dev/null  but then it 
still makes the sound *sometimes*   and the sound in the control panel works 
if i push it like 2 times.   Also Kde Media player doesn't work still.   it 
crashes the arts server when i launch it 





On Monday 28 January 2002 01:38 pm, you wrote:


 It seems since after the last KDE update from Cooker
 th startup sound and the test sound inside the SoundServer
 controll panel doesn't work. XMMS can play throught Arts
 and the KDE CD Player works fine too. Anyone else had
 this problem?

 /MattB




[Cooker] Sound back in KDE

2002-01-26 Thread guran

Hi

VERSION (rsync ftp.uninett.no)
Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020125 21:04
/ChangeLog/1.634/Fri Jan 25 16:05:35 2002//

I noticed that the sound was intermittent in flightgear and that the 
scrolling in Konqueror was bad so I did: modprobe agpart - and got an answer 
that basically said that the module could not be found.

Thus I added to /etc/modules.conf
alias char-major-226 agpart

and rebooted and got sound back on KDE startup so the problem lies probably 
in kde-multimedia as Mathias Dahlberg mailed about.

regards
guran


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Re: [Cooker] Sound with Compaq Presario 700CA laptop

2001-12-11 Thread Denis Pelletier

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, George Mitchell wrote:

{ Denis Pelletier wrote:
{
{ Hello,
{ 
{ I installed Cooker (Mandrake 8.1 + upgrade to cooker) on my new Compaq
{ Presario 700CA laptop and the sound does not work. This laptop is based on
{ the integrated chipset KN133 (AMD Duron). The sound card is detected and
{ correctly configured by hardDrake (model VT82C686 [Apollo Super
{ AC97/Audio] with kernel module via82cxxx_audio). But I can't get any sound
{ with this laptop.
{ 
{ This is probably due to the two sound buttons on the laptop (a + and - to
{ increase/decrease the volume). I guess that something else has to be
{ activated but what? Has anyone seen something similar?
{
{
{ Assuming you have the line 'alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio' in your
{ /etc/modules.conf file.  You've checked that, correct?  You might also
{ want to load the kernel docs package.  As I recall there is some info on
{ the sound modules in there somewhere.

Yes I have the correct line in modules.conf. After more digging it
appears that I'm not the only one with this problem. I founded this bug
report on sourceforge:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=487761group_id=3242atid=103242

I also tried the ALSA driver (snd-card-via686a). The result: no sound and
no error message in /var/log/message. And yes I have unmuted everything.

Denis
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[Cooker] Sound with Compaq Presario 700CA laptop

2001-12-10 Thread Denis Pelletier

Hello,

I installed Cooker (Mandrake 8.1 + upgrade to cooker) on my new Compaq
Presario 700CA laptop and the sound does not work. This laptop is based on
the integrated chipset KN133 (AMD Duron). The sound card is detected and
correctly configured by hardDrake (model VT82C686 [Apollo Super
AC97/Audio] with kernel module via82cxxx_audio). But I can't get any sound
with this laptop.

This is probably due to the two sound buttons on the laptop (a + and - to
increase/decrease the volume). I guess that something else has to be
activated but what? Has anyone seen something similar?

Thanks.

Denis
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sciences économiques, Université de Montréal





Re: [Cooker] Sound with Compaq Presario 700CA laptop

2001-12-10 Thread George Mitchell

Denis Pelletier wrote:

Hello,

I installed Cooker (Mandrake 8.1 + upgrade to cooker) on my new Compaq
Presario 700CA laptop and the sound does not work. This laptop is based on
the integrated chipset KN133 (AMD Duron). The sound card is detected and
correctly configured by hardDrake (model VT82C686 [Apollo Super
AC97/Audio] with kernel module via82cxxx_audio). But I can't get any sound
with this laptop.

This is probably due to the two sound buttons on the laptop (a + and - to
increase/decrease the volume). I guess that something else has to be
activated but what? Has anyone seen something similar?

Thanks.

Denis
___
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Étudiant au doctorat
sciences économiques, Université de Montréal



Assuming you have the line 'alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio' in your 
/etc/modules.conf file.  You've checked that, correct?  You might also 
want to load the kernel docs package.  As I recall there is some info on 
the sound modules in there somewhere.






[Cooker] Sound... (Dis_regard Previous message!!!! It works!!!)

2001-12-08 Thread Sergio Korlowsky



Sound Blaster Live:
I got it working again, forget about the previous message   yoohooo!!

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Re: [Cooker] Sound problems in current KDE

2001-12-07 Thread Francis

Le Vendredi 7 Décembre 2001 00:38, vous avez écrit / you wrote :

 If I'm not mistaken I also had the choice between OSS and ALSA in the
 KDE sound control panel, now there's only OSS.  Maybe I'm wrong though
 and ALSA was never a choice (can someone confirm this, pls?)

No, you are just right, the KDE sound control panel let you choose between 
OSS and ALSA, or AUTODETECTION, at least on KDE 2.2.1...

Francis





[Cooker] Sound problems in current KDE

2001-12-06 Thread Rainer Koschnick

Hello,

some days ago I wrote that I am having problems with sound in KDE
which would not work.  I just figured out why it's not working anymore.
I had activated Full Duplex operation in the sound server setup, and
somehow it doesn't seem to work anymore.  I turned it off and am now
having sound again.

So there seems to be something wrong with either the arts package, or
the kde sound modules because it used to work up until last week.

If I'm not mistaken I also had the choice between OSS and ALSA in the
KDE sound control panel, now there's only OSS.  Maybe I'm wrong though
and ALSA was never a choice (can someone confirm this, pls?)

Rgds,
Rainer





Re: [Cooker] Sound (SndBlster-Live)

2001-09-25 Thread Sergio Korlowsky

On Tuesday 25 September 2001 03:04, you wrote:
  Chmouel

Thanks a lot  Chmouel...!
we appreciate it!  
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Re: [Cooker] Sound (SndBlster-Live)

2001-09-24 Thread Fabrice FACORAT

Le Lundi 24 Septembre 2001 18:15, vous avez écrit :
 Fabrice FACORAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Le Vendredi 21 Septembre 2001 13:16, Sergio Korlowsky scribit :
   Something is wrong again, my sound card is being detected as tritech(?)
   by kmix, I have a four speaker and woofer setup, but only the left side
   has output, nothing comes out the right side...(mute)  ;-)
 
  normal, it's a strange behaviour of the latest emu10k1 drivers. there
  were a thread about that.
  install emu-tools rpm ( dsp effetc, AC pasthrough, volume control ).

 actually emu10k1-ctl is buggy (laurent is working on that), it need
 this patch :

 --- usr/bin/emu10k1-ctl Wed Sep  5 19:57:39 2001
 +++ /usr/bin/emu10k1-ctlMon Sep 24 11:15:55 2001
 @@ -35,7 +35,7 @@


  # Default location of programs:
 -BASE_PATH=/usr/local
 +BASE_PATH=/usr
  DSPPATH=$BASE_PATH/share/emu10k1

  DSPMGR=$BASE_PATH/bin/emu-dspmgr
 @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
  load(){

  # Source configurations
 -  . $BASE_PATH/etc/emu10k1.conf
 +  . /etc/emu10k1.conf
  #set some variables
  if [ $USE_DIGITAL_OUTPUT == yes ]; then
  FRONT=Digital

that's the problem when the PATH is hardcoded.

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Re: [Cooker] Sound (SndBlster-Live)

2001-09-24 Thread Sergio Korlowsky

On Monday 24 September 2001 11:15, you wrote:
 Fabrice FACORAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Le Vendredi 21 Septembre 2001 13:16, Sergio Korlowsky scribit :
   Something is wrong again, my sound card is being detected as tritech(?)
   by kmix, I have a four speaker and woofer setup, but only the left side
   has output, nothing comes out the right side...(mute)  ;-)
 
  normal, it's a strange behaviour of the latest emu10k1 drivers. there
  were a thread about that.
  install emu-tools rpm ( dsp effetc, AC pasthrough, volume control ).

 actually emu10k1-ctl is buggy (laurent is working on that), it need
 this patch :

 --- usr/bin/emu10k1-ctl Wed Sep  5 19:57:39 2001
 +++ /usr/bin/emu10k1-ctlMon Sep 24 11:15:55 2001
 @@ -35,7 +35,7 @@


  # Default location of programs:
 -BASE_PATH=/usr/local
 +BASE_PATH=/usr
  DSPPATH=$BASE_PATH/share/emu10k1

  DSPMGR=$BASE_PATH/bin/emu-dspmgr
 @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
  load(){

  # Source configurations
 -  . $BASE_PATH/etc/emu10k1.conf
 +  . /etc/emu10k1.conf
  #set some variables
  if [ $USE_DIGITAL_OUTPUT == yes ]; then
  FRONT=Digital

And... is he going to incorporate this patch to an upcoming 
package.. or do we need to do it ourselves?  just curious! ;-)
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[Cooker] Sound (SndBlster-Live)

2001-09-21 Thread Sergio Korlowsky


Something is wrong again, my sound card is being detected as tritech(?) by 
kmix, I have a four speaker and woofer setup, but only the left side has 
output, nothing comes out the right side...(mute)  ;-)

Also I had quake3 running fine under beta3, now it doesn't work!
Video card is a VooDoo3   I have installed mesa, mesa-common, mesa-demos
no mesa-gears, no tuxracer, in a few words... NO acceleration!
libglide is installed, so is Glide-V3-DRI

But checking for Glide3 gives me this:

file /usr/lib/libglide3.so.3 from install of Glide_V3-2.60.15-7mdk conflicts 
with file from package Glide_V5-cvs-3mdk what is it doing HERE?
I do not have a VooDoo5...(?)

Anyone with the same troubles?

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pam_console_apply extension RE: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-11 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


 
  By the way, why do we have now to be in audio group to play sound ??
  (this is a real question)
 
 before devfs I think the permissions were set when logging in (see
 /etc/security/console.perms). I don't know why this was changed, maybe
it
 just needs to be fixed?
 


They still are. The only problem is when module is loaded *after* you
have logged in. In this case sound devices get 660 as per devfsd.conf.

I believe, pam_console_apply should be extended to allow device name as
argument and used in devfsd.conf, like

REGISTER   .*  EXECUTE /sbin/pam_console_apply $devpath

We do not need to do anything on unregistered.

What I do *not* like, is that this triggers CHANGE action additionally.
But that's another problem ...

-andrej




RE: pam_console_apply extension RE: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-11 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


 
  REGISTER   .*  EXECUTE /sbin/pam_console_apply
$devpath
 
 used to be there. Too slow.


No. What was there was 

REGISTER   .*  EXECUTE /sbin/pam_console_apply

That runs pam_console_applies for *all* devices every time. I suggest
extending pam_console_apply to run for a single specific file. It should
not be slower than loading module :-)
 
 
  We do not need to do anything on unregistered.
 
  What I do *not* like, is that this triggers CHANGE action
additionally.
  But that's another problem ...
 
 IMO it's a bug. I've not had a look yet.





Re: [Cooker] Sound level rear/front speakers

2001-09-11 Thread Sylvain OBEGI

About this subject, could sound maintainer please take a look at this
message :
http://opensource.creative.com/pipermail/emu10k1-tools-devel/2001-September/
000596.html
It seems similar to my problem..
Thanks

Sylvain OBEGI
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 661913


- Original Message -
From: Sylvain OBEGI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:47 PM
Subject: [Cooker] Sound level rear/front speakers


 As I said in a previous mail, my sound level in front speakers is very low
 compared to that of rear speakers.
 I use 8.1b3 and a SBLive! (EMU10K1) connected through Digital Din and
Analog
 to DTT 3500 speakers.
 I never saw any info concerning sound level other than balance left-right.

 Any info/idea?

 Thanks

 By the way, do someone has info about Audigy support under Linux ?

 Sylvain OBEGI
 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ICQ : 661913








[Cooker] Sound level rear/front speakers

2001-09-10 Thread Sylvain OBEGI

As I said in a previous mail, my sound level in front speakers is very low
compared to that of rear speakers.
I use 8.1b3 and a SBLive! (EMU10K1) connected through Digital Din and Analog
to DTT 3500 speakers.
I never saw any info concerning sound level other than balance left-right.

Any info/idea?

Thanks

By the way, do someone has info about Audigy support under Linux ?

Sylvain OBEGI
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 661913





Re: [Cooker] Sound settings w/ 8.1 beta 3

2001-09-10 Thread Pixel

Jason Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For some reason all of the sound (volume) settings of my 8.1b3 install (clean 
 install) were _zero_...  I had just about convinced myself that it wasn't 
 recognizing my AC97 compatible chipset (VIA 8233), when it occurred to me to 
 check the mixer settings.  Sure enough, they were all (except for PCM?) set 
 to zero...  I changed the sliders to some reasonable values, and it's all 
 good... (actually, playback quality seems better than 8.0)

alsa drivers have always done this. 

i suggest adding:

above snd-card-cs461x snd-pcm-oss
pre-remove snd-card-cs461x modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss
pre-remove snd-pcm-oss /usr/bin/aumix -f /etc/.aumixrc -S /dev/null 21
post-install snd-pcm-oss /usr/bin/aumix -f /etc/.aumixrc -L /dev/null 21

(the pre-remove snd-card-cs461x should not be needed, but it is. 
modprobe -r snd-card-cs461x causes snd-pcm-oss to be removed (using the
above command), but modprobe -r doesn't. IMO it's a bug in modprobe but
haven't had the time to have a better look at it.




[Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Stéphane Genaud

After an update of 8.0 to 8.1 beta 3 :

[bash #] ls -l /dev/sound/{dsp,mixer}
crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 sep 10 14:03 /dev/sound/dsp
crw-rw1 root audio 14,   0 sep 10 14:03 /dev/sound/mixer

and xmms (for instance) complains for a normal user when he tries
to play something.
There should be rw perms for others as well.

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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Stefan Siegel

Es schrieb Stéphane Genaud:
 
 After an update of 8.0 to 8.1 beta 3 :
 
 [bash #] ls -l /dev/sound/{dsp,mixer}
 crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 sep 10 14:03 /dev/sound/dsp
 crw-rw1 root audio 14,   0 sep 10 14:03 /dev/sound/mixer
 
 and xmms (for instance) complains for a normal user when he tries
 to play something.
 There should be rw perms for others as well.

No! you have to run msec to add the correct users to the group audio.

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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Ainsi parlait Stefan Siegel :
 Es schrieb Stéphane Genaud:
  After an update of 8.0 to 8.1 beta 3 :
 
  [bash #] ls -l /dev/sound/{dsp,mixer}
  crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 sep 10 14:03 /dev/sound/dsp
  crw-rw1 root audio 14,   0 sep 10 14:03 /dev/sound/mixer
 
  and xmms (for instance) complains for a normal user when he tries
  to play something.
  There should be rw perms for others as well.

 No! you have to run msec to add the correct users to the group audio.
Or add them manually. A full explanation of which groups exist and which goal 
they deserve is still missing altough.

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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Fabrice FACORAT

Le Lundi 10 Septembre 2001 18:46, Guillaume Rousse scribit :

  No! you have to run msec to add the correct users to the group audio.

 Or add them manually. A full explanation of which groups exist and which
 goal they deserve is still missing altough.

userdrake
usermod -G audio user

audio seems obvious to me :)

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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Brad Felmey

On Monday 10 September 2001 12:13, you, Fabrice FACORAT, wrote:

 Le Lundi 10 Septembre 2001 18:46, Guillaume Rousse scribit :

   No! you have to run msec to add the correct users to the group audio.
 
  Or add them manually. A full explanation of which groups exist and which
  goal they deserve is still missing altough.

 userdrake
 usermod -G audio user

 audio seems obvious to me :)

It's obvious to me, as well, but we are not average end-users. Forcing users 
who choose the automated install to figure out how to add users to groups and 
so forth right off the bat is just plain obnoxious. Many of them are going to 
be brand-new to UNIX-style permissions, and learning the intricacies of 
adding users to groups, or setting 666 on the appropriate /dev entries is 
ludicrous when all they want is to hear an mp3 play on their shiny new Linux 
box. 99% of them just plain won't do it, and will show up in 
alt.os.linux-mandrake and ZDNet talkbacks saying things like Linux SUCKS 
because even their old Win9x setup could do something simple like play a song 
without 2 months of reading man pages and guesswork.

660 is fine for expert install with higher than medium security chosen, but 
for a Average Joe install, it's going to be a real turn-off to the new user, 
and just plain unnecessary, unless you're trying to sabotage the entire 
user-friendly point of using Mandrake in the first place.
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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Fabrice FACORAT

Le Lundi 10 Septembre 2001 21:25, Brad Felmey scribit :
 Many of them
 are going to be brand-new to UNIX-style permissions, and learning the
 intricacies of adding users to groups, or setting 666 on the appropriate
 /dev entries is ludicrous when all they want is to hear an mp3 play on
 their shiny new Linux box. 99% of them just plain won't do it, and will
 show up in
 alt.os.linux-mandrake and ZDNet talkbacks saying things like Linux SUCKS
 because even their old Win9x setup could do something simple like play a
 song without 2 months of reading man pages and guesswork.

they don't read user guide. I wonder if we need such users at this time. 
maybe they should read this : 
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 660 is fine for expert install with higher than medium security chosen,
 but for a Average Joe install, it's going to be a real turn-off to the new
 user, and just plain unnecessary, unless you're trying to sabotage the
 entire user-friendly point of using Mandrake in the first place.

It may be possible to add trivial group ( audio, cdrom ) to the user group by 
default if he create the user with userdrake ( must depends on the security 
level ).
ask to vince

[will@bastard downloads]$ rpmmon.pl -p userdrake
vince

or else we may force the user to read the docs and manuals

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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Sylvain OBEGI

I think my problem about no sound as non-root is related to this one.
I said that it works the second time I book, but i just discovered some
things : right after boot, i can use sound as non-root, but if i wait a
undefined time, sound become inaccessible (permission refusée - access
denied?).
Is this known?

Sylvain OBEGI
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ICQ : 661913






Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread guran

On Monday 10 September 2001 21:25, Brad Felmey wrote:

 It's obvious to me, as well, but we are not average end-users. Forcing
 users who choose the automated install to figure out how to add users to
 groups and so forth right off the bat is just plain obnoxious. Many of them
 are going to be brand-new to UNIX-style permissions, and learning the
 intricacies of adding users to groups, or setting 666 on the appropriate
 /dev entries is ludicrous when all they want is to hear an mp3 play on
 their shiny new Linux box. 99% of them just plain won't do it, and will
 show up in
 alt.os.linux-mandrake and ZDNet talkbacks saying things like Linux SUCKS
 because even their old Win9x setup could do something simple like play a
 song without 2 months of reading man pages and guesswork.

 660 is fine for expert install with higher than medium security chosen,
 but for a Average Joe install, it's going to be a real turn-off to the new
 user, and just plain unnecessary, unless you're trying to sabotage the
 entire user-friendly point of using Mandrake in the first place.

I sound a strong Yes to your writing, probably an accurate description.

I sometimes wonder if this list is to try to find faults and try to advice 
better methods or if it is a place to show how to do a thing and not send a 
mail.

regards
guran

regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread SI Reasoning

Maybe this is something that can be done with msec?
maybe a new security grouping of single networked
newbie... hehehe. The general point being that it
would be somewhat similar to the medium security
accept that it setuid certain files and such so that
users can have instant access to their modem,
multimedia, and other things they were accustomed to
under windows except where they can accidently
screw things up! Maybe an office network workstation
setting (which would have an admin) and a home user
setting.

--- guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 10 September 2001 21:25, Brad Felmey
 wrote:
 
  It's obvious to me, as well, but we are not
 average end-users. Forcing
  users who choose the automated install to figure
 out how to add users to
  groups and so forth right off the bat is just
 plain obnoxious. Many of them
  are going to be brand-new to UNIX-style
 permissions, and learning the
  intricacies of adding users to groups, or setting
 666 on the appropriate
  /dev entries is ludicrous when all they want is to
 hear an mp3 play on
  their shiny new Linux box. 99% of them just plain
 won't do it, and will
  show up in
  alt.os.linux-mandrake and ZDNet talkbacks saying
 things like Linux SUCKS
  because even their old Win9x setup could do
 something simple like play a
  song without 2 months of reading man pages and
 guesswork.
 
  660 is fine for expert install with higher than
 medium security chosen,
  but for a Average Joe install, it's going to be a
 real turn-off to the new
  user, and just plain unnecessary, unless you're
 trying to sabotage the
  entire user-friendly point of using Mandrake in
 the first place.
 
 I sound a strong Yes to your writing, probably an
 accurate description.
 
 I sometimes wonder if this list is to try to find
 faults and try to advice 
 better methods or if it is a place to show how to do
 a thing and not send a 
 mail.
 
 regards
 guran
 
 regards
 guran
 -- 
 Mandrake Linux 8.1 beta Cooker kernel-2.4.8-21
 vers:1.572
 


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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread guran

On Tuesday 11 September 2001 00:11, SI Reasoning wrote:
 Maybe this is something that can be done with msec?
 maybe a new security grouping of single networked
 newbie... hehehe. The general point being that it
 would be somewhat similar to the medium security
 accept that it setuid certain files and such so that
 users can have instant access to their modem,
 multimedia, and other things they were accustomed to
 under windows except where they can accidently
 screw things up! Maybe an office network workstation
 setting (which would have an admin) and a home user
 setting.

I think that it might be more probable that the newbie screws his setting if 
he has to do it as su and with no prior knowledge.

regards
guran
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Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread Sylvain OBEGI

No, but permission one time, no permission 10 minutes after will confuse
users, isn't it?

By the way, why do we have now to be in audio group to play sound ?? (this
is a real question)

Thanks in advance

Sylvain OBEGI
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ : 661913


- Original Message -
From: Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms


 Sylvain OBEGI [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I think my problem about no sound as non-root is related to this one.
  I said that it works the second time I book, but i just discovered some
  things : right after boot, i can use sound as non-root, but if i wait a
  undefined time, sound become inaccessible (permission refusée - access
  denied?).
  Is this known?

 are you in audio group?

 pixel@leia:~grep audio /etc/group
 audio:x:81:pixel







Re: [Cooker] Sound devices perms

2001-09-10 Thread guran

On Tuesday 11 September 2001 00:02, Pixel wrote:

 are you in audio group?

 pixel@leia:~grep audio /etc/group
 audio:x:81:pixel

[root@Archimedes guran]#  ~grep audio /etc/group
bash: /root: is a directory
[root@Archimedes guran]#  grep audio /etc/group
bash: audio: command not found

regards
guran
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