Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Mattias Dahlberg


 I still really think the idea of any ansi/ascii stuff prior to the
 login is just plain ugly and unprofessional.  I would much rather see
 stats on the system (ie. use linux_logo to produce a nice display of
 uptime, bogomips, load average, CPU/RAM info, etc.).

Hear, hear.







Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread kons Richard Bown

Mattias Dahlberg wrote:
 
  I still really think the idea of any ansi/ascii stuff prior to the
  login is just plain ugly and unprofessional.  I would much rather see
  stats on the system (ie. use linux_logo to produce a nice display of
  uptime, bogomips, load average, CPU/RAM info, etc.).
 
 Hear, hear.
you mean just like SuSe does ?


the big difference between mandrake and SuSe is with Mandrake we can do
what we want to do , without YAST giving the type of message like  zis
is not permitted, you vil do it our way or you vil be taken und shot


I think you know what I mean !!!

If your going to do anything to the penguin, make it humourous


thats my 2 penneth
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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Eugenio Diaz

--- Mattias Dahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Han wrote:
 
  But a bit of variation wouldn't be wrong at all. Can you code it?
 
 No, but how about a clean and proper login prompt without any ANSI?
 
 As the default, I mean.

I think the ANSI penguin is one of the coolest things about a MDK install. It
differenciates an MDK login screen from lower forms of Linux ... BTW, we are
talking about Linux, not boring Slowlaris ...

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy

 V == Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

V ...  Come up with a complete hires framebuffer login with good
V graphics and people will be more pleased than with some cheezy
V ansi junk.

Isn't that what KDM/GDM are for?  Whatever it is, though, and I'm not
against a framebuffer login, but it has to be an option.  Mandrake 
already disqualifies a lot of users by requiring a framebuffer
install program.

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy

 M == Mattias Dahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

M My BBS ran on OPUS, btw. ;)

Then perhaps you still have a copy of TheDraw.exe, an excellent
ansi-art editor.

I agree though, turning it off should be easier.  I'm not too
concerned: The only time I see that login screen is when I boot,
and that's only done around here when we upgrade ;)

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Oden Eriksson

tisdagen den 13 november 2001 19.28 Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:
  M == Mattias Dahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 M My BBS ran on OPUS, btw. ;)

 Then perhaps you still have a copy of TheDraw.exe, an excellent
 ansi-art editor.

He he, yeah, that was a cool app back then.

 I agree though, turning it off should be easier.  I'm not too
 concerned: The only time I see that login screen is when I boot,
 and that's only done around here when we upgrade ;)

I do rpm -e linux_logo the first thing I ever do..., then run rc.local as 
fast as I can and then init Q or CTRL+d :)

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Blue Lizard

Eugenio Diaz wrote:

talking about Linux, not boring Slowlaris ...

exCUSE me?!  You got a problem with Solaris?  Watch it buddy...
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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Vincent Danen

On Tue Nov 13, 2001 at 01:28:54PM -0500, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:

  M == Mattias Dahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 M My BBS ran on OPUS, btw. ;)
 
 Then perhaps you still have a copy of TheDraw.exe, an excellent
 ansi-art editor.

Wow.  Blast from the past.  TheDraw rocked...  absolutely one of the
best ANSI editors around.  But, after a while, you get an appreciation
for doing ANSI by hand...  (not that I can remember how to do that
anymore...)

 I agree though, turning it off should be easier.  I'm not too
 concerned: The only time I see that login screen is when I boot,
 and that's only done around here when we upgrade ;)

Personally, I think if people want it, they can do an -ivh on
linux_logo from contribs.  They still have choice then, but for the
most part, the penguin must go.

Down with ANSI!  =)  Give me hires or give me nothing.

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Vincent Danen

On Tue Nov 13, 2001 at 01:31:30PM -0500, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote:

 V ...  Come up with a complete hires framebuffer login with good
 V graphics and people will be more pleased than with some cheezy
 V ansi junk.
 
 Isn't that what KDM/GDM are for?  Whatever it is, though, and I'm not
 against a framebuffer login, but it has to be an option.  Mandrake 
 already disqualifies a lot of users by requiring a framebuffer
 install program.

Sure, but not everyone (gasp!) uses the GUI.  On one of my mdk boxen,
I never go into X because I don't need to.  That machine is strictly
for building updates, so X has no need to be loaded (saves me some
memory for compiling stuff anyways).  On my workstation, I use GDM,
and like it, but I still use the console occassionally (not an
xterm).  Then I get to see the ugly penguin (well, not anymore).  SuSE
7.2+ has a really nice GUI console for vc/1.  Very slick.  But I don't
think it's optional (probably is, but never saw how to disable it).

Optional framebuffer login is good.  I should look to see how SuSE
implemented this to see how it can be done here.

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread John Haywood

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 05:59, you wrote:
 Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  There's a new logo for you to use if you want, but the initscripts
  package haven't kept up.
 
  Hint:
 
  less /etc/rc.d/rc.local

 Yeah :) remove the -c

Yup - and get a butt-ugly Mandrake Star instead of a butt-ugly penguin!! :{

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Han

John Haywood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 05:59, you wrote:
 Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 There's a new logo for you to use if you want, but the
 initscripts package haven't kept up.

 Hint:

 less /etc/rc.d/rc.local

 Yeah :) remove the -c

 Yup - and get a butt-ugly Mandrake Star instead of a butt-ugly
 penguin!! :{

The mandrake logo is even uglier but I was in for a change. without
logo its also boring. And ansi art can be nice I mean... BitchX need I
say more?


Cya, Han.




Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Badran

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  Yeah :) remove the -c

 Yup - and get a butt-ugly Mandrake Star instead of a butt-ugly penguin!! :{

I feel i have to step in here. I removed the penguin cos i thought it annoyed 
me. But after a few days, i missed it, so reinstalled in the RPM, please dont 
get rid of my penguin.

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Eugenio Diaz

--- Blue Lizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Eugenio Diaz wrote:
 
 talking about Linux, not boring Slowlaris ...
 
 exCUSE me?!  You got a problem with Solaris?  Watch it buddy...
 *three bouncers step out from behind*

Yeah!
*5 zillion mad penguins step out from behind*

Seriously, I used to support Slowlaris and IRIX at high-end customers (as a
SUN/SGI Value added Reseller) and I can say Sun hardware is awesomely reliable
(but not very fast BTW) and well engineered, but Solaris is another story ... I
admit it is a very good implementation of a modern Unix OS, but that ends right
there at the kernel ... The Solaris distribution is just awful ... it would
take me about a weeks worth of downloading and compiling to get a default
Solaris installation to where a default Linux distro is in terms of tools and
environment comfort. I just hated whenever I had to left the comfort of my
Linux systems to go work at a default 2.5.1 box in a data center some where!

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Han

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   Yeah :) remove the -c

  Yup - and get a butt-ugly Mandrake Star instead of a butt-ugly penguin!! :{

 I feel i have to step in here. I removed the penguin cos i thought it annoyed 
 me. But after a few days, i missed it, so reinstalled in the RPM, please dont 
 get rid of my penguin.

But wouldn't you rather look at something like 

http://www.inlink.com/~dhartman/ansi4.html

or 

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/4219/ansi.html

this?


Cya, Han.




Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread andre

Vincent, just claim that there is a security problem with boot_logo in
cooker




Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Tom Badran

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Yeah :) remove the -c
  
   Yup - and get a butt-ugly Mandrake Star instead of a butt-ugly
   penguin!! :{
 
  I feel i have to step in here. I removed the penguin cos i thought it
  annoyed me. But after a few days, i missed it, so reinstalled in the RPM,
  please dont get rid of my penguin.

 But wouldn't you rather look at something like

   http://www.inlink.com/~dhartman/ansi4.html

 or

   http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/4219/ansi.html

 this?

That would be nice, but i dont just want nothing there - too boring. And we 
REALLY need something better than the kernel framebuffer picture that shows 
on boot, whats wrong the default penquin?

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Pierre Fortin

What am I missing...?

1. a logo that won't stay onscreen once I login (beyond a few lines)
2. a screen that is useless until I login
3. a screen (Ok, 6) that is not visible when X is up

For the insignificant amount of time it takes one to login and scroll off this
logo, we get this l..o..n..g thread...?

Sounds like we need a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list...  :

:^Pierre

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Yup - and get a butt-ugly Mandrake Star instead of a butt-ugly
penguin!! :{
  
   I feel i have to step in here. I removed the penguin cos i thought it
   annoyed me. But after a few days, i missed it, so reinstalled in the RPM,
   please dont get rid of my penguin.
 
  But wouldn't you rather look at something like
 
http://www.inlink.com/~dhartman/ansi4.html
 
  or
 
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/4219/ansi.html
 
  this?
 
 That would be nice, but i dont just want nothing there - too boring. And we
 REALLY need something better than the kernel framebuffer picture that shows
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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Vincent Danen

On Wed Nov 14, 2001 at 12:32:02AM +0100, andre wrote:

 Vincent, just claim that there is a security problem with boot_logo in
 cooker

snort  Hmmm...  what kind of race can I dream up with that is so
unsolvable I couldn't patch it?

Let me think on that one... =)

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-13 Thread Eduardo and Marina V de Rivas

Hey guys lets concentrate on coming out with a Mandrake version that we can
be proud about, that works and is better then RedHat 7.2.

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Yup - and get a butt-ugly Mandrake Star instead of a butt-ugly
penguin!! :{
  
   I feel i have to step in here. I removed the penguin cos i thought it
   annoyed me. But after a few days, i missed it, so reinstalled in the
RPM,
   please dont get rid of my penguin.
 
  But wouldn't you rather look at something like
 
  http://www.inlink.com/~dhartman/ansi4.html
 
  or
 
  http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/4219/ansi.html
 
  this?

 That would be nice, but i dont just want nothing there - too boring. And
we
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[Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Mattias Dahlberg

However much I love the ANSI art I feel it's time for the ANSI penguin and
ANSI text above the login prompt to retire. Am I the only one?





Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Mattias Dahlberg



On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Han wrote:

 But a bit of variation wouldn't be wrong at all. Can you code it?

No, but how about a clean and proper login prompt without any ANSI?

As the default, I mean.

Regards,
Mattias






Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Nicolas Pomarede

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Mattias Dahlberg wrote:



 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Han wrote:

  But a bit of variation wouldn't be wrong at all. Can you code it?

 No, but how about a clean and proper login prompt without any ANSI?

 As the default, I mean.


And what about a system that would choose a different ANSI logo randomly
at each console init ?
I don't have any drawing skills, but perhaps Mandrake could ask for
submissions ; I'm sure many people would like to submit their stuff. Then,
we could vote and keep only the 10 or 20 best ones (to avoid Mandrake
distrib becomes bloated with ansi art).

Any volunteer ?


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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Mattias Dahlberg

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pomarede wrote:

 And what about a system that would choose a different ANSI logo randomly
 at each console init ?

The thing is that drawing something nice using ANSI is very, very
difficult and requires a very talented artist. Most of the times it turns
out.. eh.. ugly. Sort of like the current ANSI logo. Look at it again,
it's easy to get home-blind.

Regards,
Mattias






Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Oden Eriksson

måndagen den 12 november 2001 18.59 Mattias Dahlberg wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Han wrote:
  But a bit of variation wouldn't be wrong at all. Can you code it?

 No, but how about a clean and proper login prompt without any ANSI?

 As the default, I mean.

rpm -e linux_logo

???

:-)

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Oden Eriksson

måndagen den 12 november 2001 19.03 Nicolas Pomarede wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Mattias Dahlberg wrote:
  On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Han wrote:
   But a bit of variation wouldn't be wrong at all. Can you code it?
 
  No, but how about a clean and proper login prompt without any ANSI?
 
  As the default, I mean.

 And what about a system that would choose a different ANSI logo randomly
 at each console init ?
 I don't have any drawing skills, but perhaps Mandrake could ask for
 submissions ; I'm sure many people would like to submit their stuff. Then,
 we could vote and keep only the 10 or 20 best ones (to avoid Mandrake
 distrib becomes bloated with ansi art).

 Any volunteer ?

There's a new logo for you to use if you want, but the initscripts package 
haven't kept up.

Hint:

less /etc/rc.d/rc.local

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Oden Eriksson

måndagen den 12 november 2001 19.15 Mattias Dahlberg wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Nicolas Pomarede wrote:
  And what about a system that would choose a different ANSI logo randomly
  at each console init ?

 The thing is that drawing something nice using ANSI is very, very
 difficult and requires a very talented artist. Most of the times it turns
 out.. eh.. ugly. Sort of like the current ANSI logo. Look at it again,
 it's easy to get home-blind.

As an old ra operator I allways liked to play around with ansi graphics, 
but we're in a totally different age now. Enough is enough...

If I put it this way..., would you like to play doom or whatever game is 
popular with ansi graphics. I don't think so...

(I haven't played stupid games since I used Amiga 500)

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Mattias Dahlberg

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Oden Eriksson wrote:

 As an old ra operator I allways liked to play around with ansi graphics,
 but we're in a totally different age now. Enough is enough...

Exactly my point. Time to move on.

My BBS ran on OPUS, btw. ;)

Regards,
Mattias





Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Han

Oden Eriksson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 There's a new logo for you to use if you want, but the initscripts
 package haven't kept up.

 Hint:

 less /etc/rc.d/rc.local

Yeah :) remove the -c


Cya, Han.




Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Oden Eriksson

måndagen den 12 november 2001 19.45 Mattias Dahlberg wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Oden Eriksson wrote:
  As an old ra operator I allways liked to play around with ansi
  graphics, but we're in a totally different age now. Enough is enough...

 Exactly my point. Time to move on.

 My BBS ran on OPUS, btw. ;)

I feel with you brother :-)

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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Han

Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Mon Nov 12, 2001 at 07:03:57PM +0100, Nicolas Pomarede wrote:

 But a bit of variation wouldn't be wrong at all. Can you code it?

 No, but how about a clean and proper login prompt without any ANSI?

 As the default, I mean.


 And what about a system that would choose a different ANSI logo randomly
 at each console init ?
 I don't have any drawing skills, but perhaps Mandrake could ask for
 submissions ; I'm sure many people would like to submit their stuff. Then,
 we could vote and keep only the 10 or 20 best ones (to avoid Mandrake
 distrib becomes bloated with ansi art).

 Any volunteer ?

 Ugh.  Please, no.

 I had enough ANSI art when I ran my BBS for many years... since I
 terminated it a year and a half ago, I would really like to progress
 beyond ANSI art.  Come up with a complete hires framebuffer login with
 good graphics and people will be more pleased than with some cheezy
 ansi junk.

 My $0.02CAN, but I think linux_logo is cool *without* the logos.  Good
 tool, logos suck.  And considering you can only do so much with ANSI,
 let's just spare ourselves the pain of looking at a variety of ugly
 login screens.

Ow come on they are groovy: How bout this one?


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Cya, Han.



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Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Vincent Meyer

Hey, I LIKE the penguin!

V.

On Monday 12 November 2001 11:59 am, you wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Han wrote:
  But a bit of variation wouldn't be wrong at all. Can you code it?

 No, but how about a clean and proper login prompt without any ANSI?

 As the default, I mean.

 Regards,
 Mattias




Re: [Cooker] The penguin's gotta go.

2001-11-12 Thread Vincent Danen

On Tue Nov 13, 2001 at 03:04:22AM +0100, Han wrote:

  Ugh.  Please, no.
 
  I had enough ANSI art when I ran my BBS for many years... since I
  terminated it a year and a half ago, I would really like to progress
  beyond ANSI art.  Come up with a complete hires framebuffer login with
  good graphics and people will be more pleased than with some cheezy
  ansi junk.
 
  My $0.02CAN, but I think linux_logo is cool *without* the logos.  Good
  tool, logos suck.  And considering you can only do so much with ANSI,
  let's just spare ourselves the pain of looking at a variety of ugly
  login screens.
 
 Ow come on they are groovy: How bout this one?
 
 
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Ok, granted, this one looks alright.  But, then again, we're running
Linux and not FreeBSD... =)

I still really think the idea of any ansi/ascii stuff prior to the
login is just plain ugly and unprofessional.  I would much rather see
stats on the system (ie. use linux_logo to produce a nice display of
uptime, bogomips, load average, CPU/RAM info, etc.).

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