Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:11:55AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > Why? How many people do you think will have wu-ftpd and vsftpd > > installed at the same time? If wu-ftpd provides /etc/ftpusers, and > > vsftpd does, that's not a big deal... > > Well, how many people do you think have postfix and another MTA > installed at the same time? And how many actually *USE* > update-alternatives? Unless they do it themself (ie. build from source or force it), they shouldn't be able to as there are conflicts tags in all the MTAs. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.18-6.4mdk uptime: 11 days 2 hours 41 minutes. msg65427/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
Yves Duret wrote on Tue, May 28, 2002 at 12:08:57PM +0200 : > >> You can count 1 here :-) > > Yes, me too - but you and I are for sure not "normal" users, so I would > > not say that we count. > the alternatives trick was not made for "normal" users. How about a gui similar to drakxservices, but for status and configuration of alternatives? I would say it sounds simple, but then someone would challenge me to produce code, and then I'd be miserable trying to make it. :) -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-8.3-0.2mdk Kernel 2.4.18-16mdk msg64996/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:12:55PM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > But that doesn't mean that I should just "fix" proftpd to make it compliant > by putting an empty file. So you'd really need to ask the LSB body to get > this addressed. Ohh I agree. It's not our fault that proftpd isn't LSB compliant. > My guess is "historical" reasons. :-( Yeah well I realize that much... -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 06:45:38PM -0700, Ben Reser wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:11:36AM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > So proftpd is not compliant. It's up to the proftpd authors to make it > > compliant with the LSB, but my opinion is that we should not try and introduce > > a file which doesn't contain anything(which does not have anything to do with > > proftpd certainly!) inside proftpd just to make it compliant. > > A better question is why is LSB trying to put requirements on an > applications configration files. /etc/ftpusers just won't work for > proftpd becuase of the VirtualHost options. Requiring that an ftp > server use ftpusers is would be as dumb as saying all httpd servers have > to use apache's format. > You're right because every FTP might have its own config quirks (like the missing /etc/ftpusers in proftpd). Well, I don't really know! Stew might know a bit more though. But that doesn't mean that I should just "fix" proftpd to make it compliant by putting an empty file. So you'd really need to ask the LSB body to get this addressed. > To top all that off /etc/ftpusers is a poorly named file. > /etc/ftpusers.deny would have been more intuitive. But LSB is just > adopting the design of a poorly designed ftp server (wu-ftpd) as the > standard and that's really sad. At any rate this isn't really an > argument for this list. But that's just my two cents on the matter. > My guess is "historical" reasons. :-( -- Geoff.
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So sprach Borsenkow Andrej am 2002-05-28 um 09:19:54 +0400 : >> You can count 1 here :-) > > Yes, me too - but you and I are for sure not "normal" users, so I would > not say that we count. the alternatives trick was not made for "normal" users. normal users does not need a complete MTA. normal user use tool like evolution or kmail... so witch wich other mta do you use in collaboration with postfix ? humm sendmail is still alternative aware AFAIK.. gonna make it. -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
So sprach Borsenkow Andrej am 2002-05-28 um 09:19:54 +0400 : > You can count 1 here :-) Yes, me too - but you and I are for sure not "normal" users, so I would not say that we count. Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 3 days 4 hours 32 minutes
RE: [Cooker] vsftpd?
> And how many actually *USE* > update-alternatives? > You can count 1 here :-)
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
So sprach Vincent Danen am 2002-05-27 um 21:48:25 -0600 : > On Mon May 27, 2002 at 09:38:05AM +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote: > > Now I don't since my customers are all running windoze and have to use WinSCP > > (http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/) or cygwin+openssh instead. No more private ftp > > stuff... > > Yuck... I feel sorry for you. =( Why? Isn't private FTP quite a security risk? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 3 days 0 hours 14 minutes
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
So sprach Vincent Danen am 2002-05-27 um 16:48:16 -0600 : > Why? How many people do you think will have wu-ftpd and vsftpd > installed at the same time? If wu-ftpd provides /etc/ftpusers, and > vsftpd does, that's not a big deal... Well, how many people do you think have postfix and another MTA installed at the same time? And how many actually *USE* update-alternatives? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 3 days 0 hours 11 minutes
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Mon May 27, 2002 at 09:38:05AM +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote: [...] > > Hmmm... methinks I should look at what I can do running vsftpd under > > tcpserver... I bet I could accomplish it that way... > > > > Anyways, I'll take a peek tomorrow when I'm in the office. > > When I run (ran) proftpd/wu-ftpd I did it like this: > > [root@kamajokk /]# cat /var/service/proftpd/run > #!/bin/sh > PATH="/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH" > exec 2>&1 > exec tcpserver -XHRv -c50 -llocalhost \ > -x/etc/tcprules.d/ftpd.cdb 0 ftp \ > /usr/sbin/in.proftpd -n -d > > [root@kamajokk /]# cat /var/service/wuftpd/run > #!/bin/sh > PATH="/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH" > exec 2>&1 > exec tcpserver -HRv -c40 -llocalhost \ > -x/etc/tcprules.d/ftpd.cdb 0 ftp \ > /usr/sbin/in.ftpd -l -a -t 7200 Way cool... thanks for the tip, Oden. Just as an FYI: [root@logan service]# cat /service/vsftpd/run #!/bin/sh PATH="/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:$PATH" #exec 2>&1 exec /usr/bin/tcpserver -c30 -HRv -llocalhost -x /etc/tcprules.d/ftpd.cdb \ 127.0.0.1 ftp /usr/sbin/vsftpd /etc/vsftpd.conf 2>&1 [root@logan service]# Very nice... I can have a different config file for each instance, bind to a different IP for each instance... I love it! Time to ditch proftpd and go with vsftpd methinks... Yves, BTW, vsftpd works just peachy... very nice. Haven't tested everything with it, but so far so good (and yes, I did run it under xinetd as well, just to make sure). Methinks I smell an article on tcpserver coming soon... I had only used it with qmail and djbdns previously, but now that I've looked into it a little further, I can see moving the entire system under tcpserver... > Now I don't since my customers are all running windoze and have to use WinSCP > (http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/) or cygwin+openssh instead. No more private ftp > stuff... Yuck... I feel sorry for you. =( -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.18-6.4mdk uptime: 4 days 8 hours 4 minutes. msg64905/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:11:36AM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > So proftpd is not compliant. It's up to the proftpd authors to make it > compliant with the LSB, but my opinion is that we should not try and introduce > a file which doesn't contain anything(which does not have anything to do with > proftpd certainly!) inside proftpd just to make it compliant. A better question is why is LSB trying to put requirements on an applications configration files. /etc/ftpusers just won't work for proftpd becuase of the VirtualHost options. Requiring that an ftp server use ftpusers is would be as dumb as saying all httpd servers have to use apache's format. To top all that off /etc/ftpusers is a poorly named file. /etc/ftpusers.deny would have been more intuitive. But LSB is just adopting the design of a poorly designed ftp server (wu-ftpd) as the standard and that's really sad. At any rate this isn't really an argument for this list. But that's just my two cents on the matter. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 04:48:16PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Mon May 27, 2002 at 06:30:13PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > So sprach Yves Duret am 2002-05-27 um 18:16:23 +0200 : > > > so let me know if i put back vsftpd to read /etc/ftpusers instead of >/etc/vsftpd/ftpusers > > > > Hm, why not make it an alternative or a symlink, just like /etc/aliases > > is a symlink to /etc/postfix/aliases? > > Why? How many people do you think will have wu-ftpd and vsftpd > installed at the same time? If wu-ftpd provides /etc/ftpusers, and > vsftpd does, that's not a big deal... > ho hum proftpd and wu-ftpd conflict currently anyway ... /etc/ftpusers should make them conflict anyway but that's not too intuitive if you don't make it explicit > I really doubt anyone will have two different FTP servers installed. > > One could easily have wu-ftpd and vsftpd provide ftpserver or > something, then put for the LSB a requires on ftpserver (leave proftpd > out of the fix, or have proftpd also provide a 0 byte ftpusers file also). So proftpd is not compliant. It's up to the proftpd authors to make it compliant with the LSB, but my opinion is that we should not try and introduce a file which doesn't contain anything(which does not have anything to do with proftpd certainly!) inside proftpd just to make it compliant. -- Geoff.
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Mon May 27, 2002 at 06:30:13PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach Yves Duret am 2002-05-27 um 18:16:23 +0200 : > > so let me know if i put back vsftpd to read /etc/ftpusers instead of >/etc/vsftpd/ftpusers > > Hm, why not make it an alternative or a symlink, just like /etc/aliases > is a symlink to /etc/postfix/aliases? Why? How many people do you think will have wu-ftpd and vsftpd installed at the same time? If wu-ftpd provides /etc/ftpusers, and vsftpd does, that's not a big deal... I really doubt anyone will have two different FTP servers installed. One could easily have wu-ftpd and vsftpd provide ftpserver or something, then put for the LSB a requires on ftpserver (leave proftpd out of the fix, or have proftpd also provide a 0 byte ftpusers file also). -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.18-6.4mdk uptime: 4 days 3 hours 6 minutes. msg64899/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Lundi 27 Mai 2002 11:27, Alexander Skwar a écrit : > So sprach Borsenkow Andrej am 2002-05-27 um 13:20:27 +0400 : > > It is very unlikely. (almost all of the) contents below Mandrake-devel > > is already compressed (and with better program actually) so you hardly > > gain anything compressing it once more. > > That's right, but having it all in one huge .tar file is nice. > > But I also agree that on the fly .gz compression mostly doesn't add (or > rather substract) much. Also for busy servers I'd disable this, since > it surely adds lots of load, doesn't it? > > Alexander Skwar OK for gzip compression, but just making a tar don't overload server. And you can choose to use it for non anonymous downoad. I think it is time to close this discussion. I only hope all here agree to keep wu-ftp in distro, in main tree or contrib. - -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzyjmIACgkQk29cDOWzfVCpEwCeIdtxDTI4DE8zbE15KYu7H/ru bicAoIzPJq+jM/WAKYaupMikIhWbhet/ =2tSg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Mon, 27 May 2002, Yves Duret wrote: > Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The only issue I have with moving wu-ftpd to contribs is I just added it > > to the Requires for lsb. The LSB tests look for /etc/ftpusers, which > > wu-ftpd provided. Does vsftpd also provide this mechanism? > > vsftpd provides this mecanism too. > (but i configured it to use /etc/vsftpd/ftpusers in ordre to not conflict with > others !). > BTW, requiring this particular rpm is very crafty. 2 solutions: > - make part of setup > - requires directly the file as rpm handle this very nicely. urpmi will prompt > you to choose the ftpserver you want to instal.. > > so let me know if i put back vsftpd to read /etc/ftpusers instead of >/etc/vsftpd/ftpusers I think the requires on the file is the way to go. I should have done it that way originally and didn't really think about it as only wu-ftpd provided it at that time. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So sprach Yves Duret am 2002-05-27 um 18:16:23 +0200 :
>> so let me know if i put back vsftpd to read /etc/ftpusers instead of
>/etc/vsftpd/ftpusers
>
> Hm, why not make it an alternative or a symlink, just like /etc/aliases
> is a symlink to /etc/postfix/aliases?
that good be an idea.
we will need to move /var/ftp/{,pub} to filesystem..
--
Yves Duret
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
piouk toujours et meme apres !
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
So sprach Yves Duret am 2002-05-27 um 18:16:23 +0200 : > so let me know if i put back vsftpd to read /etc/ftpusers instead of >/etc/vsftpd/ftpusers Hm, why not make it an alternative or a symlink, just like /etc/aliases is a symlink to /etc/postfix/aliases? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 2 days 11 hours 29 minutes
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Tue, 28 May 2002, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > > server, they can download the source and build it themself if they > > > can't be bothered to use something decent (yes, I am displaying some > > > anti-wu-ftpd sentiment here). > > > > > > I don't know about the .tar/.gz thing... doesn't proftpd do anything > > > like that? > > > > > > > The only issue I have with moving wu-ftpd to contribs is I just added it > > to the Requires for lsb. The LSB tests look for /etc/ftpusers, which > > wu-ftpd provided. Does vsftpd also provide this mechanism? > > > > Mmn .. that's crufty. Why don't you require the file instead of a specific > FTP server? rpm recognizes files so you can put a Requires: /etc/ftpusers. > You're right. That's what I should have done. I'll fix. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The only issue I have with moving wu-ftpd to contribs is I just added it > to the Requires for lsb. The LSB tests look for /etc/ftpusers, which > wu-ftpd provided. Does vsftpd also provide this mechanism? vsftpd provides this mecanism too. (but i configured it to use /etc/vsftpd/ftpusers in ordre to not conflict with others !). BTW, requiring this particular rpm is very crafty. 2 solutions: - make part of setup - requires directly the file as rpm handle this very nicely. urpmi will prompt you to choose the ftpserver you want to instal.. so let me know if i put back vsftpd to read /etc/ftpusers instead of /etc/vsftpd/ftpusers -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
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> > server, they can download the source and build it themself if they > > can't be bothered to use something decent (yes, I am displaying some > > anti-wu-ftpd sentiment here). > > > > I don't know about the .tar/.gz thing... doesn't proftpd do anything > > like that? > > > > The only issue I have with moving wu-ftpd to contribs is I just added it > to the Requires for lsb. The LSB tests look for /etc/ftpusers, which > wu-ftpd provided. Does vsftpd also provide this mechanism? > Mmn .. that's crufty. Why don't you require the file instead of a specific FTP server? rpm recognizes files so you can put a Requires: /etc/ftpusers. -- Geoff.
RE: [Cooker] vsftpd?
> > > The only issue I have with moving wu-ftpd to contribs is I just added it > > to the Requires for lsb. The LSB tests look for /etc/ftpusers, which > > wu-ftpd provided. Does vsftpd also provide this mechanism? > > Yes. > make /etc/ftpusers part of base filesystem then -andrej
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
> The only issue I have with moving wu-ftpd to contribs is I just added it > to the Requires for lsb. The LSB tests look for /etc/ftpusers, which > wu-ftpd provided. Does vsftpd also provide this mechanism? Yes. Z.M.
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Sat May 25, 2002 at 01:26:28PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > > > > On Sun May 19, 2002 at 09:51:41PM +0200, Yves Duret wrote: > > > I was thinking about it, yes, but discussion with others decided that > > > two FTP servers was enough for Mandrake (I agree), and my preferred > > > solution of removing wu-ftpd in favour of vsftpd was not well > > > received. =) > > > > > IMHO I think it is a good idea to keep wu-ftpd in distrib for some reasons: > > - - historic reason > > - - as I know, only wu-ftpd permit to download on the fly .tar and or .gz. > > > > I know wu-ftpd is not the best ftp server, perharps keeping it in contrib. > > wu-ftpd and anonftp would definately be kept in contribs. Historical > reasons doesn't really fly with me... AFAIC, if someone can run an FTP > server, they can download the source and build it themself if they > can't be bothered to use something decent (yes, I am displaying some > anti-wu-ftpd sentiment here). > > I don't know about the .tar/.gz thing... doesn't proftpd do anything > like that? > The only issue I have with moving wu-ftpd to contribs is I just added it to the Requires for lsb. The LSB tests look for /etc/ftpusers, which wu-ftpd provided. Does vsftpd also provide this mechanism? Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
So sprach Borsenkow Andrej am 2002-05-27 um 13:20:27 +0400 : > It is very unlikely. (almost all of the) contents below Mandrake-devel > is already compressed (and with better program actually) so you hardly > gain anything compressing it once more. That's right, but having it all in one huge .tar file is nice. But I also agree that on the fly .gz compression mostly doesn't add (or rather substract) much. Also for busy servers I'd disable this, since it surely adds lots of load, doesn't it? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de |Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 2 days 4 hours 26 minutes
RE: [Cooker] vsftpd?
> > I don't like wu-ftp anymore and I solve lot of problem about virtual hosting > since I use proftpd, but doing a get Mandrake-devel.tar.gz is very usefull > on > ftp.lip6.fr, or get Mandrake.iso.gz. > It is very unlikely. (almost all of the) contents below Mandrake-devel is already compressed (and with better program actually) so you hardly gain anything compressing it once more. -andrej
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Lundi 27 Mai 2002 05:58, Ben Reser a écrit : > On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:09:01PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: > > I don't know about the .tar/.gz thing... doesn't proftpd do anything > > like that? > > As far as I'm aware it's not implemented but if someone really wanted > it, it wouldn't take very long to write a module that would do it. I agree this point, but I am waiting that for proftpd beacause I am not develloper and if I do that I will open lot of big security hole and memory leaks. I can't ask to world to make it for me ;-( Any volonteers ? I don't like wu-ftp anymore and I solve lot of problem about virtual hosting since I use proftpd, but doing a get Mandrake-devel.tar.gz is very usefull on ftp.lip6.fr, or get Mandrake.iso.gz. - -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzx9+IACgkQk29cDOWzfVBhUQCgoYNxqVH+7MWPA3qBwMsz/EUQ sK0AoJ/vyjw/ur4gO2AKzviX+vHNPSSt =h5BM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Monday 27 May 2002 05.10, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Mon May 27, 2002 at 01:18:11AM +0200, Yves Duret wrote: > > >> > I can see that vsftpd is becoming increasingly popular. More secure > > >> > than wu-ftpd and ProFTPD and also very fast according to reports. I > > >> > tried it myself, and it's certainly fast and easy to setup. > > >> > > > >> > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong > > >> > contender as the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? > > >> > > >> AFAIK, vdanen planed to include it... > > >> vincent ? > > > > > > I was thinking about it, yes, but discussion with others decided that > > > two FTP servers was enough for Mandrake (I agree), and my preferred > > > solution of removing wu-ftpd in favour of vsftpd was not well > > > received. =) > > > > > > I could probably do something in the relatively near future and put it > > > in contribs (unless you have a srpm already made?). Or, if that > > > fails, at the very least put it on rpmhelp.net with qmail, djbdns, and > > > others. > > > > and done. (i gave a try few weeks ago). > > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~yduret/ > > please test it before i upload it... > > i really like to put it in main and switch wu-ftpd to contrib. > > Cool... I'll take a peek at it tomorrow and see what I can break. I > really like Chris' stuff, and I know it'll be secure. I would use it > myself except that it doesn't support virtual domains and, AFAIK, > there is no way to bind it to one particular IP address (ie. I could > run three instances, each on their own IP if that were possible). > > Hmmm... methinks I should look at what I can do running vsftpd under > tcpserver... I bet I could accomplish it that way... > > Anyways, I'll take a peek tomorrow when I'm in the office. When I run (ran) proftpd/wu-ftpd I did it like this: [root@kamajokk /]# cat /var/service/proftpd/run #!/bin/sh PATH="/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH" exec 2>&1 exec tcpserver -XHRv -c50 -llocalhost \ -x/etc/tcprules.d/ftpd.cdb 0 ftp \ /usr/sbin/in.proftpd -n -d [root@kamajokk /]# cat /var/service/wuftpd/run #!/bin/sh PATH="/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH" exec 2>&1 exec tcpserver -HRv -c40 -llocalhost \ -x/etc/tcprules.d/ftpd.cdb 0 ftp \ /usr/sbin/in.ftpd -l -a -t 7200 Now I don't since my customers are all running windoze and have to use WinSCP (http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/) or cygwin+openssh instead. No more private ftp stuff... -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:09:01PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: > I don't know about the .tar/.gz thing... doesn't proftpd do anything > like that? As far as I'm aware it's not implemented but if someone really wanted it, it wouldn't take very long to write a module that would do it. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. - Brian Hayes
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Mon May 27, 2002 at 09:32:06AM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote: > > > I could probably do something in the relatively near future and put it > > > in contribs (unless you have a srpm already made?). Or, if that > > > fails, at the very least put it on rpmhelp.net with qmail, djbdns, and > > > others. > > > > and done. (i gave a try few weeks ago). > > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~yduret/ > > please test it before i upload it... > > i really like to put it in main and switch wu-ftpd to contrib. > > We have wu-ftpd for "historical" reasons because it's been around for a while > and there are many sites which use it. :-( There is no reason it can't be in contribs. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.18-6.4mdk uptime: 3 days 7 hours 30 minutes. msg64806/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Mon May 27, 2002 at 01:18:11AM +0200, Yves Duret wrote: > >> > I can see that vsftpd is becoming increasingly popular. More secure than > >> > wu-ftpd and ProFTPD and also very fast according to reports. I tried it > >> > myself, and it's certainly fast and easy to setup. > >> > > >> > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong contender as > >> > the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? > >> > >> AFAIK, vdanen planed to include it... > >> vincent ? > > > > I was thinking about it, yes, but discussion with others decided that > > two FTP servers was enough for Mandrake (I agree), and my preferred > > solution of removing wu-ftpd in favour of vsftpd was not well > > received. =) > > > > I could probably do something in the relatively near future and put it > > in contribs (unless you have a srpm already made?). Or, if that > > fails, at the very least put it on rpmhelp.net with qmail, djbdns, and > > others. > > and done. (i gave a try few weeks ago). > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~yduret/ > please test it before i upload it... > i really like to put it in main and switch wu-ftpd to contrib. Cool... I'll take a peek at it tomorrow and see what I can break. I really like Chris' stuff, and I know it'll be secure. I would use it myself except that it doesn't support virtual domains and, AFAIK, there is no way to bind it to one particular IP address (ie. I could run three instances, each on their own IP if that were possible). Hmmm... methinks I should look at what I can do running vsftpd under tcpserver... I bet I could accomplish it that way... Anyways, I'll take a peek tomorrow when I'm in the office. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.18-6.4mdk uptime: 3 days 7 hours 28 minutes. msg64805/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Sat May 25, 2002 at 01:26:28PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote: > > On Sun May 19, 2002 at 09:51:41PM +0200, Yves Duret wrote: > > I was thinking about it, yes, but discussion with others decided that > > two FTP servers was enough for Mandrake (I agree), and my preferred > > solution of removing wu-ftpd in favour of vsftpd was not well > > received. =) > > > IMHO I think it is a good idea to keep wu-ftpd in distrib for some reasons: > - - historic reason > - - as I know, only wu-ftpd permit to download on the fly .tar and or .gz. > > I know wu-ftpd is not the best ftp server, perharps keeping it in contrib. wu-ftpd and anonftp would definately be kept in contribs. Historical reasons doesn't really fly with me... AFAIC, if someone can run an FTP server, they can download the source and build it themself if they can't be bothered to use something decent (yes, I am displaying some anti-wu-ftpd sentiment here). I don't know about the .tar/.gz thing... doesn't proftpd do anything like that? -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.18-6.4mdk uptime: 3 days 7 hours 27 minutes. msg64804/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
> > I could probably do something in the relatively near future and put it > > in contribs (unless you have a srpm already made?). Or, if that > > fails, at the very least put it on rpmhelp.net with qmail, djbdns, and > > others. > > and done. (i gave a try few weeks ago). > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~yduret/ > please test it before i upload it... > i really like to put it in main and switch wu-ftpd to contrib. We have wu-ftpd for "historical" reasons because it's been around for a while and there are many sites which use it. :-( -- Geoff.
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun May 19, 2002 at 09:51:41PM +0200, Yves Duret wrote: > >> > I can see that vsftpd is becoming increasingly popular. More secure than >> > wu-ftpd and ProFTPD and also very fast according to reports. I tried it >> > myself, and it's certainly fast and easy to setup. >> > >> > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong contender as >> > the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? >> >> AFAIK, vdanen planed to include it... >> vincent ? > > I was thinking about it, yes, but discussion with others decided that > two FTP servers was enough for Mandrake (I agree), and my preferred > solution of removing wu-ftpd in favour of vsftpd was not well > received. =) > > I could probably do something in the relatively near future and put it > in contribs (unless you have a srpm already made?). Or, if that > fails, at the very least put it on rpmhelp.net with qmail, djbdns, and > others. and done. (i gave a try few weeks ago). http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~yduret/ please test it before i upload it... i really like to put it in main and switch wu-ftpd to contrib. -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le Samedi 25 Mai 2002 06:09, Vincent Danen a écrit : > On Sun May 19, 2002 at 09:51:41PM +0200, Yves Duret wrote: > I was thinking about it, yes, but discussion with others decided that > two FTP servers was enough for Mandrake (I agree), and my preferred > solution of removing wu-ftpd in favour of vsftpd was not well > received. =) > IMHO I think it is a good idea to keep wu-ftpd in distrib for some reasons: - - historic reason - - as I know, only wu-ftpd permit to download on the fly .tar and or .gz. I know wu-ftpd is not the best ftp server, perharps keeping it in contrib. - -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzvdOgACgkQk29cDOWzfVAJ4ACg2ozcF/ojfZo8CxYtm6aP/fot kjkAoN2vN+0XEebmPD/oS0hzDJza2fxD =xP2r -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Sun May 19, 2002 at 09:51:41PM +0200, Yves Duret wrote: > > I can see that vsftpd is becoming increasingly popular. More secure than > > wu-ftpd and ProFTPD and also very fast according to reports. I tried it > > myself, and it's certainly fast and easy to setup. > > > > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong contender as > > the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? > > AFAIK, vdanen planed to include it... > vincent ? I was thinking about it, yes, but discussion with others decided that two FTP servers was enough for Mandrake (I agree), and my preferred solution of removing wu-ftpd in favour of vsftpd was not well received. =) I could probably do something in the relatively near future and put it in contribs (unless you have a srpm already made?). Or, if that fails, at the very least put it on rpmhelp.net with qmail, djbdns, and others. -- MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/ "lynx -source http://www.freezer-burn.org/bios/vdanen.gpg | gpg --import" 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux kernel 2.4.18-6.4mdk uptime: 1 day 8 hours 27 minutes. msg64703/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 09:48:59PM +0200, Mattias Dahlberg wrote: > I can see that vsftpd is becoming increasingly popular. More secure than > wu-ftpd and ProFTPD and also very fast according to reports. I tried it > myself, and it's certainly fast and easy to setup. > > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong contender as > the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? BTW, vsftpd is already default ftp server for + Openwall GNU/*/Linux (http://www.openwall.com/Owl/) + ALT Linux (http://www.altlinux.com/) -- ldv msg64427/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Sun, 19 May 2002, Oden Eriksson wrote: > > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong contender as > > the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? > > Url? http://www.google.com/search?q=vsftpd :) http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ Regards, Mattias
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
On Sundayen den 19 May 2002 21.48, Mattias Dahlberg wrote: > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong contender as > the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? Url? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?
Mattias Dahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I can see that vsftpd is becoming increasingly popular. More secure than > wu-ftpd and ProFTPD and also very fast according to reports. I tried it > myself, and it's certainly fast and easy to setup. > > Any plans to add vsftpd to Cooker? Maybe it's even a strong contender as > the default ftp server for the next Mandrake? AFAIK, vdanen planed to include it... vincent ? -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
