Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Pascal Gagnon wrote: > That would be great but how ? > It's often more complicated than that to build something working. > > Example: I've just finished to build mozilla-firebird-0.7... Everything > fine, the rpm, the install, the icons... BUT It just don't work. It > seems to launch ok then.. stop. Nothing. I haven't find yet the problem. > So It could bring more problems to automatic the thing. > > Although, if somebody could bring a script "à la" gentoo to build easy, > then upload back, I'm all ears. > > I'd like something that do the: > "wget ftp://., > urpmi -s ..., > rpm --rebuild , > urpmi ..., > (maybe upload) > then clean the mess left behind. > rpm-rebuilder does much of this. There are other solutions/scripts used on some of the other alternative arch builds. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
That would be great but how ? It's often more complicated than that to build something working. Example: I've just finished to build mozilla-firebird-0.7... Everything fine, the rpm, the install, the icons... BUT It just don't work. It seems to launch ok then.. stop. Nothing. I haven't find yet the problem. So It could bring more problems to automatic the thing. Although, if somebody could bring a script "à la" gentoo to build easy, then upload back, I'm all ears. I'd like something that do the: "wget ftp://., urpmi -s ..., rpm --rebuild , urpmi ..., (maybe upload) then clean the mess left behind. Pascal > > > If you lack computing power wouldn't it be possible to write some > scripts to download cooker SRPMs, build ppc-RPMs and upload them back on > a repository automatically. Volunteers could launch the script on their > idle cooker-ppc machines and that way easily contribute to the > cooker-ppc effort. > > Best, > Olivier > > >
Re: Cooker dependencies
It's not the respond that you would like but I started to build for
myself from the SRPMS (mainly gnome specific) when I find that my iboolk
lag too much from my i586.
I understood long ago that there is only one machine that try to keep
ppc in sync at mandrake and we just have to be patient around
freeze-release since the proprio must also work on other stuff (that
brings more $$$, ie i586). That's fine with me.
The ppc freeze (...) should be over soon. There is always SRPMS anyway.
Pascal
Le mer 19/11/2003 à 12:02, Gaétan QUENTIN a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker:
> i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them,
> from 9.1 to cooker.
>
> Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if
> the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages
> daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update
> kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time...
>
>
> So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working
> on it?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gaetan.
>
> Le Mercredi 19 Novembre 2003 16:44, Olivier Grisel a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi
> > (urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the
> > system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting
> > packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back :
> >
> >
> > # urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc
> > Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
> > drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[>= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non
> > satisfait)
> >
> > However I have the following version installed on my system :
> > perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk
> >
> > Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package
> > name ?
> > How to solve this problem ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> >
> > PS: Here are my urpmi sources :
> >
> > plf http://mirrors.zoreil.com/www.plf.org/mandrake/cooker {
> > hdlist: hdlist.plf.cz
> > with_hdlist: hdlist.cz
> > list: list.plf
> > }
> >
> > main ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS {
> > hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
> > with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
> > }
> >
> > contrib ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc {
> > hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
> > with_hdlist: ../../cooker/ppc/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
> > }
>
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Olivier Grisel wrote: > If you lack computing power wouldn't it be possible to write some > scripts to download cooker SRPMs, build ppc-RPMs and upload them back on > a repository automatically. Volunteers could launch the script on their > idle cooker-ppc machines and that way easily contribute to the > cooker-ppc effort. > Sure, We just need to: 1) Manage the work, so folks aren't duplicating the work, and make sure package B gets built after package A, etc. 2) Have some system of trust/control so the folks using the stuff can have some degree of confidence that what they're downloading is in fact what it represents itself to be. Possibly some other issues I haven't thought of. I think spreading the build too thin across machines would tend the aggravate any build sequencing issues, unless everyone involved stayed in very close sync with each other. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
Stew Benedict wrote: On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Ray Auge wrote: Thanks, But the "one person" I was referring to isn't me. All I've done aside from support here is the brief cooker HOWTO/Status I did a few weeks back, as well as packaging a 2.6benh kernel, available on my webspace. More/faster hardware would certainly help, but you need to coordinate your effort with those already doing the work, as well as get blessing/access to be able to upload packages through the Paris cluster. If you lack computing power wouldn't it be possible to write some scripts to download cooker SRPMs, build ppc-RPMs and upload them back on a repository automatically. Volunteers could launch the script on their idle cooker-ppc machines and that way easily contribute to the cooker-ppc effort. Best, Olivier
Re: Cooker dependencies
Stew Benedict wrote: They aren't the same package. The perl-gtk2 api changed. I wrote a summary of my cooker-ppc experience abotu a month ago and posted packages I found to be lacking here: http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/ The summary in in this list's archives, as well as the PPC forum on mandrakeclub. Thanks for the hint and the packages. I'll let you know about the result of my migration to cooker. Regards, Olivier
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Olivier Grisel wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi > (urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the > system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting > packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back : > > > # urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc > Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés : > drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[>= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non satisfait) > > > However I have the following version installed on my system : > perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk > > Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package > name ? > How to solve this problem ? > They aren't the same package. The perl-gtk2 api changed. I wrote a summary of my cooker-ppc experience abotu a month ago and posted packages I found to be lacking here: http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc/ The summary in in this list's archives, as well as the PPC forum on mandrakeclub. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Ray Auge wrote: > Go Stew, > > Give me till May-June, at that time I will hopefully be in a position to > help with the builds (PPC cluster time). > > till then, good luck and keep it up > Thanks, But the "one person" I was referring to isn't me. All I've done aside from support here is the brief cooker HOWTO/Status I did a few weeks back, as well as packaging a 2.6benh kernel, available on my webspace. More/faster hardware would certainly help, but you need to coordinate your effort with those already doing the work, as well as get blessing/access to be able to upload packages through the Paris cluster. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
Go Stew, Give me till May-June, at that time I will hopefully be in a position to help with the builds (PPC cluster time). till then, good luck and keep it up Ray On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 12:35, Stew Benedict wrote: > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, [iso-8859-1] Gaétan QUENTIN wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker: > > i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them, > > from 9.1 to cooker. > > > > Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if > > the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages > > daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update > > kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time... > > > > > > So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working > > on it? > > > > Cooker-ppc is a community/volunteer effort. Currently there is one > person, I believe, building the packages, and the lag behind x86 is > partically just physics. x86 packages are built on a multi-machine > cluster in Paris, which builds many times faster than the single machines > that I was using when I was doing the official builds. > > Complicating this is when there are rapid-fire releases of large packages, > say kde* in one day. You might be in the middle of one build and another > comes out before you even finish it. There have been occasions where I've > had to kill these builds 3 or 4 times and blown a whole day of machine > time with no packages built. > > So, no, it's not abandoned, but it doesn't have the same level of > resources committed to it as the official platforms.
Re: Cooker dependencies
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, [iso-8859-1] Gaétan QUENTIN wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker: > i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them, > from 9.1 to cooker. > > Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if > the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages > daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update > kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time... > > > So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working > on it? > Cooker-ppc is a community/volunteer effort. Currently there is one person, I believe, building the packages, and the lag behind x86 is partically just physics. x86 packages are built on a multi-machine cluster in Paris, which builds many times faster than the single machines that I was using when I was doing the official builds. Complicating this is when there are rapid-fire releases of large packages, say kde* in one day. You might be in the middle of one build and another comes out before you even finish it. There have been occasions where I've had to kill these builds 3 or 4 times and blown a whole day of machine time with no packages built. So, no, it's not abandoned, but it doesn't have the same level of resources committed to it as the official platforms. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Cooker dependencies
Hi,
I don't know what your problem is, but i was wondering, about ppc cooker:
i have installed mandrake 9.1 on my imac and pc. Then i have updated them,
from 9.1 to cooker.
Since that day, i update my systems (pc and ppc) daily and i can say that if
the i586 cooker version is moving fast (there is a lot of new packages
daily), the ppc version is far behind. For an example: impossible to update
kde, since there is no new kde binary packages for a very long time...
So my question is: is ppc cooker abandonned and how many cookers are working
on it?
Regards,
Gaetan.
Le Mercredi 19 Novembre 2003 16:44, Olivier Grisel a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi
> (urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the
> system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting
> packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back :
>
>
> # urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc
> Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
> drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[>= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non
> satisfait)
>
> However I have the following version installed on my system :
> perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk
>
> Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package
> name ?
> How to solve this problem ?
>
> Thanks,
> Olivier
>
>
>
> PS: Here are my urpmi sources :
>
> plf http://mirrors.zoreil.com/www.plf.org/mandrake/cooker {
> hdlist: hdlist.plf.cz
> with_hdlist: hdlist.cz
> list: list.plf
> }
>
> main ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS {
> hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
> with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
> }
>
> contrib ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc {
> hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
> with_hdlist: ../../cooker/ppc/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
> }
Cooker dependencies
Hello,
I'm trying to upgrade my ibook 2.2 from 9.1 to cooker using urpmi
(urpmi urpmi and urpmi --auto-select --no-verify-rpm) and most of the
system got upgraded after manually desinstalling some conflicting
packages with urpme but I can't get the draktools back :
# urpmi drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc
Certains paquetages demandés ne peuvent pas être installés :
drakxtools-9.2-0.3mdk.ppc (perl-GTK2[>= 0.0.cvs.2003.04.04.1] non satisfait)
However I have the following version installed on my system :
perl-Gtk2-0.26.cvs.2003.07.07.1-1mdk
Is it a problem with with capitalized letters in the perl-GTK2 package
name ?
How to solve this problem ?
Thanks,
Olivier
PS: Here are my urpmi sources :
plf http://mirrors.zoreil.com/www.plf.org/mandrake/cooker {
hdlist: hdlist.plf.cz
with_hdlist: hdlist.cz
list: list.plf
}
main ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.main.cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
}
contrib ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc {
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
with_hdlist: ../../cooker/ppc/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz
}
Re: Mandrake on RS 6000
I read in some howto that you have to replace the installer in the first ISO image and then it would work there is also a lot of talk about a E15 framebuffer patch that seems very IBM specific. As far as my tries i hav to use the serial console approach and i have not managed to get the installer going from there yet. / Kjell A - Original Message - From: Tirs Abril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:59:00 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mandrake on RS 6000 > A Dimecres 19 Novembre 2003 12:19, Kjell Andersson va escriure: > > > What about RS 6000 machines ? Especially 43P-150 :-) > > > > Will they be able to boot and install from the 9.2 > > > > I would love to get these machines runing on Linux and Mandrake > > > > Since i already have a couple of x86 doing that ! > > I heard that 9.1 would boot and install on a RS/6000, but I couldn't manage to do > it. Did you try? > Anyway, I would also like to have Linux on my good old 43P-150 :-) I guess we can > share impressions and ideas when the time to test arrives. > > -- > _ > |!rs > > Tirs Abril i Sanz > e-Commerce Dept. > Management System Solutions > Galileo, 303, Atic > 08028 - Barcelona (Spain) > Tf: (+34) 934 196 343 > Fax: (+34) 934 196 561 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/
Re: your mail
A Dimecres 19 Novembre 2003 15:42, Stew Benedict va escriure: > 9.1 was tested and mostly built on an RS6000 43P-150. Hum... maybe I should try again when I get some spare time again. I tried to install 9.1 for a short while but unfortunately I couldn't dedicate all the necessary time to it (well, actually I prefer to say "fortunately", since the reason is that I am getting married in two weeks!) > There is no official 9.2 PPC. Well, I was actually thinking about cooker. I expected some "unofficial" 9.2 PPC to come up, but now you tell me that it might be a mix of 9.2/10.0/whatever. Well, as Deng Hsiao Ping said, "it doesn't matter whether the cat is black or white as long as it chases mice". Thanks for your answer! -- _ |!rs Tirs Abril i Sanz e-Commerce Dept. Management System Solutions Galileo, 303, Atic 08028 - Barcelona (Spain) Tf: (+34) 934 196 343 Fax: (+34) 934 196 561 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I reconfigure network settings?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Generation NeXT wrote: > Hi, > > I'm desperately trying to get stuff to work. I am > relatively new to Linux, and Mandrake is highly > recommended. So I installed Mandrake 9.1. > > I'm not able to configure my networking setup. I try > the netconf from the KDE Start Applications menu, and > it says I need root. I then tried to setup a log in > for root through KDE, but couldn't figure it out (also > heard this wasn't recommended). I then noticed that > netconf uses linuxconf, so I went to the terminal, and > typed in linuxconf and got the following: > > --- > Error message from remadmin :Xlib: connection to > ":0.0" refused by server > Error message from remadmin :Xlib: No protocol > specified > Error message from remadmin : > Error message from remadmin : > Error message from remadmin :Gtk-WARNING **: cannot > open display: :0.0 > --- > > (1) So, how do I launch linuxconf? (2) Why doesn't > launching linuxconf work? (3) How can I configure the > network from the command line? > > - Joaquin > mcc or drakconf is the solution we're really trying to point people to for gui configuration. linuxconf has been moved to contribs. drakconnect is the subsystem of drakconf for networking accessible either from the command line as root (or /usr/sbin/drakconnect as a normal user). This is also available within the mcc/drakconf gui. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: your mail
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Kjell Andersson wrote: > Hi ! > > What about RS 6000 machines ? Especially 43P-150 :-) > > Will they be able to boot and install from the 9.2 > 9.1 was tested and mostly built on an RS6000 43P-150. There is no official 9.2 PPC. There is PPC cooker, which is a moving target, and since Olivier has resumed his build (thx Olivier!), would now be a 9.2+ -> 10.0. Chances are it would work on RS6000, but there's also a good chance the installer no longer works, with changes in rpm, perl, etc. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: Mandrake on RS 6000
A Dimecres 19 Novembre 2003 12:19, Kjell Andersson va escriure: > What about RS 6000 machines ? Especially 43P-150 :-) > > Will they be able to boot and install from the 9.2 > > I would love to get these machines runing on Linux and Mandrake > > Since i already have a couple of x86 doing that ! I heard that 9.1 would boot and install on a RS/6000, but I couldn't manage to do it. Did you try? Anyway, I would also like to have Linux on my good old 43P-150 :-) I guess we can share impressions and ideas when the time to test arrives. -- _ |!rs Tirs Abril i Sanz e-Commerce Dept. Management System Solutions Galileo, 303, Atic 08028 - Barcelona (Spain) Tf: (+34) 934 196 343 Fax: (+34) 934 196 561 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mandrake on RS 6000
Hi ! What about RS 6000 machines ? Especially 43P-150 :-) Will they be able to boot and install from the 9.2 I would love to get these machines runing on Linux and Mandrake Since i already have a couple of x86 doing that ! Regards Kjell A -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/
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