Re: 8.2 PPC CD1 and CD2 not recognized file systems
Stew Benedict wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install more software via GRPMI, CUPS among others, from the official 8.2 CDs. However, when asked to insert the relevant CDs, it doesn't seem to recognize them and just keeps throwing open the CD player draw with a request to insert the appropriate CD. I've noticed that from the console, an error message is given that the file system type of the CD is incorrect. What does this mean ? Is there something wrong with my fstab config, or is there something wrong with the CDs ? Post your fstab line. Can you see files on /mnt/cdrom using any CD? Just my 2 cents, Disk 1 is an HFS disk (Stew correct me if I am wrong), where Disk 2 is a Unix (Rockridge) disk. I have seen this, and had to do the mount manually in the past (mount -t hfs /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom). But that was before I installed 9.1 which has a really nice line in the fstab: none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hde,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,user 0 0 I hope this helps, Craig...
Re: 8.2 PPC CD1 and CD2 not recognized file systems
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Stew Benedict wrote: > > >On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I'm trying to install more software via GRPMI, CUPS among others, from > >>the official 8.2 CDs. However, when asked to insert the relevant CDs, it > >>doesn't seem to recognize them and just keeps throwing open the CD > >>player draw with a request to insert the appropriate CD. > >> > >>I've noticed that from the console, an error message is given that the > >>file system type of the CD is incorrect. What does this mean ? Is there > >>something wrong with my fstab config, or is there something wrong with > >>the CDs ? > >> > >> > >> > > > >Post your fstab line. > >Can you see files on /mnt/cdrom using any CD? > > > > > > > Just my 2 cents, Disk 1 is an HFS disk (Stew correct me if I am wrong), > where Disk 2 is a Unix (Rockridge) disk. I have seen this, and had to do > the mount manually in the past (mount -t hfs /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom). But > that was before I installed 9.1 which has a really nice line in the fstab: > none /mnt/cdrom supermount > dev=/dev/hde,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0,user 0 0 > Actually disk1 is a hybrid hfs and iso9660. You should be able to mount it either way. -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: 8.2 PPC CD1 and CD2 not recognized file systems
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install more software via GRPMI, CUPS among others, from > the official 8.2 CDs. However, when asked to insert the relevant CDs, it > doesn't seem to recognize them and just keeps throwing open the CD > player draw with a request to insert the appropriate CD. > > I've noticed that from the console, an error message is given that the > file system type of the CD is incorrect. What does this mean ? Is there > something wrong with my fstab config, or is there something wrong with > the CDs ? > Post your fstab line. Can you see files on /mnt/cdrom using any CD? -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
Re: 8.2 or more recent?
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Jeffrey Hergan wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 12:44 PM, Stew Benedict wrote: > > > > > I believe the 8.2 kernel has the proper support. I'm pretty sure I > > built > > most of it on firewire, but it's been a while. > > > > all.gz is the initrd, vmlinux is the kernel. So you set all.gz as your > > initrd, select the kernel, and add the kernel arguments: > > > > root=/dev/ram3 ramdisk_size=32000 > > Using the 9.xbeta2 cds, I click on the "Mandrake Linux Installer" but > nothing gets copied to the system folder. > I copied all.gz and vmlinux to the System folder, along with bootx app > and extension (in their proper places). > This works, but it looks like it's kernel 2.4.18 and I thought it would > be 2.4.20. > Items under /boot are the ones suitable for installation. Items under BootX are for use post-install. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: 8.2 or more recent?
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 12:44 PM, Stew Benedict wrote: I believe the 8.2 kernel has the proper support. I'm pretty sure I built most of it on firewire, but it's been a while. all.gz is the initrd, vmlinux is the kernel. So you set all.gz as your initrd, select the kernel, and add the kernel arguments: root=/dev/ram3 ramdisk_size=32000 Using the 9.xbeta2 cds, I click on the "Mandrake Linux Installer" but nothing gets copied to the system folder. I copied all.gz and vmlinux to the System folder, along with bootx app and extension (in their proper places). This works, but it looks like it's kernel 2.4.18 and I thought it would be 2.4.20. I also see no less than ten kernels on the install disc 1. What should I use as the init and the kernel for the latest and greatest? Apologies for these newbieish questions. I tried using vmlinuz-2.4.20.mdk and initrd-2.4.20-mdk.img.ext3 but bootx failed on lauch with "no suitable kernels found". Thanks, Jeff If you want any video options, or text install, etc. Those would also be in the kernel arguments. I'm pretty sure this is covered in the tutotial on the CDs. You can also look at yaboot.conf to see various boot arguments. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: 8.2 or more recent?
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Jeffrey Hergan wrote: > Stew, > I did some research on my G3 Series 266mhz laptop and I found that in > Yellow Dog 2.3, it's a simple matter of plug and play for the PCMCIA > Cardbus firewire card to be recognized and to load the firewire drivers > and recognize the firewire drive attached to the card. > > But I can't stand Yellow Dog. > > So I downloaded the iso's for Mandrake 9.xbeta2. > I tried to set up bootx (Old World machine) but I'm not quite sure what > I need to do to get it to run the installer. I thought 'all.gz' was > the install kernel, but when I use it it says it can't find initrd. I > know I'm missing something obvious--never had a problem with bootx in > years of using it. > > Anyway, my question is: is 8.2 sufficient to run the pcmcia card for > ffirewire? > Do I need to build a new kernel or are the firewire and pcmcia drivers > built as modules by default? > > Thanks, > Jeff > I believe the 8.2 kernel has the proper support. I'm pretty sure I built most of it on firewire, but it's been a while. all.gz is the initrd, vmlinux is the kernel. So you set all.gz as your initrd, select the kernel, and add the kernel arguments: root=/dev/ram3 ramdisk_size=32000 If you want any video options, or text install, etc. Those would also be in the kernel arguments. I'm pretty sure this is covered in the tutotial on the CDs. You can also look at yaboot.conf to see various boot arguments. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.freenode.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2
Re: 8.2 Install borked and Video card
On Thursday 28 November 2002 05:05, Michael Dewey wrote: > Hi All: So where do I look to see if ATI Radeon mobile video card with 16 > megs ram is supported by 8.2 PPC? And how do I select Xpmac since I tried > xfree sever 2 times? I've installed 8.2 on a Powerbook G4 667, ATI Radeon M6 LY without problem my XF86Config-4 file can be retrieved from : http://www.tootella.org/misc/XF86Config-4 -- Sylvain.
Re: 8.2 Install borked and Video card
Hi All: So where do I look to see if ATI Radeon mobile video card with 16 megs ram is supported by 8.2 PPC? And how do I select Xpmac since I tried xfree sever 2 times? Mike man_linux --- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 11:41:59PM -0800, Michael Dewey wrote: >> Hi All: I have a new ice ibook 600Mhz 256 megs with a dvd drive. I have tried 2 >times to install Mandrake 8.2 PPC and after it does a text install it does seem to >work at booting up to yboot and then linux starts up to a blank screen. Now for a >monitor I selected ibook2 1024x768 and then in xfree I selected 16bit color and got a >blank screen on reboot. So, I did install all over and selected 24bit color and still >getting a blank screen on reboot? Yboot lets me boot into Mac OSX. I have a 40G HD >partitioned 12G = OSX; 12G = OS9; and 12G = mdk 8.2 > >This isn't terribly surprising. The video card you have may not be >supported by the XServer in 8.2. What X Server did you select (Xpmac or >XFree86)? Do you get a login prompt when you enter: >linux 3 >at the yaboot prompt? > >-- >Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://ben.reser.org > >"If you're not making any mistakes, you're flat out not trying hard >enough." - Jim Nichols
Re: 8.2 Install borked
Hi All: I have a new ice ibook 600Mhz 256 megs with a dvd drive. I have tried 2 times to install Mandrake 8.2 PPC and after it does a text install it does seem to work at booting up to yboot and then linux starts up to a blank screen. Now for a monitor I selected ibook2 1024x768 and then in xfree I selected 16bit color and got a blank screen on reboot. So, I did install all over and selected 24bit color and still getting a blank screen on reboot? Yboot lets me boot into Mac OSX. I have a 40G HD partitioned 12G = OSX; 12G = OS9; and 12G = mdk 8.2 Mike aka man_linux
Re: 8.2->cooker
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote:
> Stew,
>
> where do you get the files to update ?
>
> I see you reference a file://, do I donwload files from somewhere using
> MacOS and put them in a directory that can be read by linux ? or do i
> download them in linux ?
>
I'd recommend doing everything on the Linux side.
urpmi.addmedia is your friend. Olivier Thauvin has put together a nice
little tool to help you add urpmi sources:
http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/
Myself, I have it all here, since I'm building it, and then I nfs share it
to the other machines. (4 running various states of cooker - still
fighting with the installer on the 7600).
So in my case my urpmi source is an nfs mount from another machine or a
local directory:
Powerbook:
[root@powerbook root]# cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
cooker //mnt/nfs {
hdlist: hdlist.cooker.cz
list: list.cooker
}
RS6000:
[stew@rs6000 bin]$ cat /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
cooker //mnt/disk/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.cooker.cz
list: list.cooker
}
If you are using a remote repository, yours will look slightly different.
man urpmi.addmedia goes into more detail.
Once you have your source setup, then staying up to date with cooker is
simply a matter of regularly doing
urpmi.update cooker
urpmi --auto-select
(That is once you've done the initial transition from 8.2->cooker)
Stew Benedict
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Re: 8.2->cooker
Stew, where do you get the files to update ? I see you reference a file://, do I donwload files from somewhere using MacOS and put them in a directory that can be read by linux ? or do i download them in linux ? Thanks, AH - Original Message - From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 07:16 Subject: 8.2->cooker > > In the process of trying to debug why the new 9.0 based installer is > stalling out at loading stage2 on the resurrected 7600 machine, I decided > to do a clean 8.2 install and urpmi it to cooker. Although 1 pass of > --auto-select failed, I was able to do it in just a few steps, and now > it's running cooker. > > urpmi.addmedia cooker file://mnt/disk/Mandrake/RPMS > urpmi.removemedia "CD 1 Cooker (cdrom1)" > urpmi.removemedia "CD 2 Cooker (cdrom2)" > urpmi glibc > urpmi perl-base > urpmi perl-base rpmdrake grpmi > urpmi kdebase > urpmi kernel > (Since this is an OldWorld machine, I had to ftp the kernel and initrd to > another machine to get it on the MacOS side for booting. Also, since mesh > and mac53c94 are integrated in recent kernels, I had to remove the > references to them in /etc/modules.conf so mkinitrd would run without > error) > urpmi --auto-select > (I was asked to make one choice of libgnomeprint2-2_0-2.1.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm > vs libgnomeprint2.0_0-1.116.0-2mdk.ppc.rpm. I chose the 2nd, as the first > pass of auto-select I tried I had picked the first and it failed. In > reality only one of these should be available, my repository needs some > cleaning. This auto-select too some time, over 300 packages, and the > makedev process took quite a long time, so you need to be patient here.) > urpmi --auto-select > (This 2nd pass was just for good measure and ended up loading the first of > the 2 libgnomeprint packages listed above). > urpmi openssh-server > (So I could log in and write this, after setting up my new kernel and > initrd in BootX). > > [root@pm7600 root]# cat /proc/version > Linux version 2.4.19-19mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 > (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-3mdk)) #1 Mon Nov 11 18:19:54 EST 2002 > [root@pm7600 root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo > cpu : 604 > clock : 132MHz > revision: 3.5 (pvr 0004 0305) > bogomips: 263.78 > machine : Power Macintosh > motherboard : AAPL,7500 MacRISC > detected as : 16 (PowerMac 7500) > pmac flags : > L2 cache: 256K unified > memory : 160MB > pmac-generation : OldWorld > > KDE3 is not exactly a pleasure to run on this machine, but it does come > up. The frozen adb mouse in kdm we had in 8.2 is also gone. > > In all cooker-ppc is quite usable at the moment, if anyone wants to give > it a whirl. The safest thing, of course, if you need your machine for > work etc., would be to do a 2nd 8.2 install and upgrade that one to > cooker, so you could fall back on the original 8.2 install should you need > to. > > HTH, > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 > IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc > Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&r=1&w=2 > >
Re: 8.2 PPC installation bug
On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Tobias Giesen wrote: > Hello, > > I think I observed this on i586 once too: > > My partitions are /, /usr, and /usr/share. These are on different hard > disks. The Mandrake installer doesn't show the correct total free space > (it only shows the space of hard disk 1). Thus, I cannot install all the > packages I want. > > There should be a way to override Mandrake's free-space check. > The installer is essentially the same as x86, so we probably do inherit that bug. /usr is going to get the bulk of your install. On my machine /usr/share is 700M. and /usr without "share" is 1GB. "/" shouldn't get too much. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: 8.2/ppc Supplemental Goodies
Ben Reser wrote: > Well I've done some work and now all the 8.2/ppc RPMS that were not > included in the ISOs are now available via urpmi/rpmdrake via my mirror. > > You can add the source by doing: > urpmi.addmedia "8.2-ppc-Supplemental" >http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS with >../base/hdlist.cz > > If you have a slower internet connection and don't want to fetch the > entire 2 MB hdlist file you can use the synthesis file, though you > aren't able to see all the info about the packages that way. > > You can use the synthesis file by using this to add the source instead: > urpmi.addmedia "8.2-ppc-Supplemental" >http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS with >../base/synthesis.hdlist.cz > > For those that want to get things manually via http, ftp or rysnc the > URLs are now as follows: > > ftp://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS > http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS > rsync://mirror.brain.org::Mandrake-ppc/8.2-Supplemental/RPMS > > Please don't abuse this site. By that I mean if you plan on installing > things on a bunch of machines at once please download one copy to a > local machine and install from there. I'm providing this off my own > home computer systems and only have a T1 and pay for the bandwidth out > of my own pocket. Also please don't have more than one connection open > to the box at a time. > > Also since I posted the original message under another thread I'm going > to point out that the ISO's for 8.0/ppc and 8.2/ppc are both mounted > under the Mandrake-ppc tree on the same mirror. The URLs for them are > as follows: > > ftp://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc > http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-ppc > rsync://mirror.brain.org::Mandrake-ppc > > Again the above message about abusing the server applies here... > > Hope everyone likes. > > -- > Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://ben.reser.org > > We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we > mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose. > - Brian Hayes Hi Ben, I threw a glance a t your supplemental rpms. I can't rsync, just ftp on my machine here. It is not clear to me wether there is only supplemental stuff there or the original iso content plus the supplemental? (looks like the second to me, no?). In this case is there a list of the supplemental files you have added so that we can download only these and not spoil your bandwidth? Bye and thanX -- -- | Patrick LADAM | | | Laboratoire CSSB| THE BIG BANG THEORY: | | UFR SMBH| | | 74 rue Marcel Cachin| In the begining there was | | 93017 Bobigny CEDEX |nothing at all.| | >>> NEW e-mail: <<< | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Then, it exploded... | | Tel: 01 48 38 77 26 / 76 85 | | | Fax: 01 48 38 77 77 | | --
Re: 8.2 installer initrd fails on supermac
Le 2002.05.25 20:34, Stew Benedict a écrit : > > On Sat, 25 May 2002, Peter R. Wood (Lists) wrote: > > > Howdy, > > > > I'm trying to do a fresh install of mdk 8.2 ppc (final) on my > SuperMac > > J700. Now I've had linux working on here for many years, and I've > > been using BootX to boot up and do installs, etc. However, with > > the initrd and kernel that are supplied on the 8.2 cd, I get an > error > > when I try to boot the installer. This is after the kernel has > loaded, > > and the initrd has just been uncompressed: > > > > "Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel" > > > > Now, I looked in the list archives, and found someone who had the > > same problem. For him, on his 7300, the answer was to download > Stew's > > newer initrd. But this was with 8.2b2, so I figured it was fixed > > in the final version. In any case, I downloaded Stew's initrd and > > tried it, with the same results. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > SuperMac J700 w/Sonnet G3/400 upgrade. > > Internal SCSI is MESH, both hard drives and the cdrom are on the > > internal bus. > > > > Be sure to specify devfs=mount or devfs=nomount in your kernel > arguments, > along with root=/dev/sdaX (X=/) > > Stew Benedict > And maybe be sure to have specified the demanded size for the ramdisk (at least 36MB) Bertrand dekoninck.
Re: 8.2 installer initrd fails on supermac
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Peter R. Wood (Lists) wrote: > At Saturday, 25 May 2002, you wrote: > > >Be sure to specify devfs=mount or devfs=nomount in your kernel arguments, > > >along with root=/dev/sdaX (X=/) > > > Tried both of these as kernel arguments in BootX: > > devfs=mount root=/dev/sdb7 > devfs=nomount root=/dev/sdb7 > > Both gave me the same results as before. > > Am I supposed to be using the initrd and kernel that are in the BootX > directory, or the ones that are in the 'boot' directory on the CD? > Or does it matter? I have been using the ones from the BootX directory, > with the exception that I'm using the initrd downloaded from your > site. > For the install, the ones in /boot (you don't use any devfs options then, you use install options. initrd-all.gz, etc.). After the install, the ones in BootX. mesh is included in the initrd, as well as sd_mod. > Also, are these the same kernel/initrd that I will use after installation, > or is there another set? > > Peter > > Peter R. Wood (Lists) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://prwdot.org/ > > > > Peter R. Wood (Lists) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://prwdot.org/ > > > > > > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: 8.2 installer initrd fails on supermac
>Tried both of these as kernel arguments in BootX: > >devfs=mount root=/dev/sdb7 >devfs=nomount root=/dev/sdb7 > >Both gave me the same results as before. > >Am I supposed to be using the initrd and kernel that are in the BootX >directory, or the ones that are in the 'boot' directory on the CD? >Or does it matter? I have been using the ones from the BootX directory, >with the exception that I'm using the initrd downloaded from your >site. > >Also, are these the same kernel/initrd that I will use after installation, >or is there another set? Bah, forget it... I just discovered how to make the Mandrake Installer AppleScript on the CD work (by dropping it on stuffit expander, as noted in the lists...) This seems to have magically made things work. Thanks anyway. :-) Peter
Re: 8.2 installer initrd fails on supermac
At Saturday, 25 May 2002, you wrote: >Be sure to specify devfs=mount or devfs=nomount in your kernel arguments, >along with root=/dev/sdaX (X=/) Tried both of these as kernel arguments in BootX: devfs=mount root=/dev/sdb7 devfs=nomount root=/dev/sdb7 Both gave me the same results as before. Am I supposed to be using the initrd and kernel that are in the BootX directory, or the ones that are in the 'boot' directory on the CD? Or does it matter? I have been using the ones from the BootX directory, with the exception that I'm using the initrd downloaded from your site. Also, are these the same kernel/initrd that I will use after installation, or is there another set? Peter Peter R. Wood (Lists) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://prwdot.org/ Peter R. Wood (Lists) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://prwdot.org/
Re: 8.2 installer initrd fails on supermac
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Peter R. Wood (Lists) wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm trying to do a fresh install of mdk 8.2 ppc (final) on my SuperMac > J700. Now I've had linux working on here for many years, and I've > been using BootX to boot up and do installs, etc. However, with > the initrd and kernel that are supplied on the 8.2 cd, I get an error > when I try to boot the installer. This is after the kernel has loaded, > and the initrd has just been uncompressed: > > "Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel" > > Now, I looked in the list archives, and found someone who had the > same problem. For him, on his 7300, the answer was to download Stew's > newer initrd. But this was with 8.2b2, so I figured it was fixed > in the final version. In any case, I downloaded Stew's initrd and > tried it, with the same results. > > Any suggestions? > > SuperMac J700 w/Sonnet G3/400 upgrade. > Internal SCSI is MESH, both hard drives and the cdrom are on the > internal bus. > Be sure to specify devfs=mount or devfs=nomount in your kernel arguments, along with root=/dev/sdaX (X=/) Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
Re: 8.2 PPC Errata -- Request for comments
> 5) The BootX installer package doesn't work with languages other than English. > Error scenario: The BootX installer is an AppleScript that is used for > automating the BootX settings; when it is run on a Macintosh that uses a > language other than English, an error message appears: "Sorry, can't setup > BootX". This is because the script looks for the Mac's "System folder" (in > English) which isn't present on systems that use a different language. > Solution: The BootX app can still be used, but you need to manually enter the > BootX entries instead of using the Applescript wrapper. See these pages for > more info: > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/Install/pages/install8B.php3 That's true, but unfortunately that's not the only problem with the applescript. It doesn't work for me even though I'm on a US system (9.2.2). That's because it doesn't find the settings file that it should copy into the system folder, as apparently AppleScript doesn't know where to look if you just tell it to do something with «file "x" of folder "y"». It seems to expect an absolute path, which can be constructed e.g. by saying «file "x" of folder "y" of insertion location». See the alternative script I've written http://www.n.ethz.ch/student/walthec/mandrake-install.sit and the thread about it Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:01:41 +0200 Subject: Applescript Another problem is that BootX's ramdisk file location setting is only correctly setup if the user by accident has the file in the same place (same absolute path) as Stew had it when he made the settings file. I don't know any way of correctly automating this, but one can at least tell the user how to manually set this up. -Christian
Re: 8.2 PPC Errata -- Request for comments
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 01:44:10PM -0700, Phil Lavigna wrote: > I've collected several of the most important bugs/problems with 8.2 PPC to > create the beginnings of an errata page. Many of the solutions were taken > directly from this mailing list, so I'd like to thank everyone for their help. > > If anyone has comments/suggestions on ways to improve the following text, > please let me know. Thanks. Looks good to me Phil. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 stage 1 typo...
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Ben Reser wrote: > stage 1 in 8.2 final still says it's cooker. No big deal just thought > I'd point it out. > /me kicks self Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 Sound / HardDrake trouble
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Sean Schertell wrote:
> Thanks for all the advice about the sleep issue. Guess I'll just wait
> for Ben to save the day with one of his magic kernels. The next issue
> on my list is to try and get sound working. It was working great under
> YDL 2.1/2.2 with XMMS set to the OSS driver. But in Man8.2, XMMS, I get
> an error sound card not configured properly (or something like that).
> Because I'm a newbie, I thought HardDrake would be my ticket to poking
> around the sound card config, but after opening HardDrake, if I choose
> "hardware" ("system hardware"?) from the 5 or 6 icons available, X
> totally crashes every time -- black screen requiring a reboot, disk
> repair, the whole deal. Any ideas on how to get my sound working with
> or without HardDrake? It would be nice to be able to use HardDrake
> too. Any ideas on that? Thanks!
>
>
Hardrake isn't really going to do anything for you for PPC sound. Most
all of the machines use the same drivers, although the name has changed
with kernel updates:
2.2.x dmasound
2.2.4 dmasound_awacs
2.2.4+ dmasound_pmac
With 8.2, you should have the following modules loaded:
dmasound_pmac 46584 0
i2c-core 14824 0 [dmasound_pmac]
dmasound_core 13640 0 [dmasound_pmac]
soundcore 4936 3 [dmasound_core]
With an entry something like this in /etc/modules.conf:
alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_pmac
If all that is in place, xmms output driver should be OSS Driver 1.2.7.
It could also be a permissions issue on /dev/dsp, although normally this
gets set up properly when you log in/run X.
Stew Benedict
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Re: 8.2 keymap bug in US keymap under X.
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 09:30:34AM +0200, Henrik Edlund wrote: > What error do you get? I get a "," and "." when I press those (using my > layout), which I believe is the correct behaviour. Caps Lock is just for > letters, shift is used to get ; and : for me. Yeah well that's what I get now, but for a while last night it was shifting those keys when my caps was pressed. But like my nevermind message says it misteriously quit doing it. *shrug* -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 keymap bug in US keymap under X.
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Ben Reser wrote: BR> Hit Caps Lock. BR> Then press the comma or the period key. BR> I haven't done much looking to see if there are more issues like this. BR> But I don't think that should be expected behavior. What error do you get? I get a "," and "." when I press those (using my layout), which I believe is the correct behaviour. Caps Lock is just for letters, shift is used to get ; and : for me. -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 keymap bug in US keymap under X.
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 10:50:47PM -0700, Ben Reser wrote: > Hit Caps Lock. > Then press the comma or the period key. > I haven't done much looking to see if there are more issues like this. > But I don't think that should be expected behavior. Humm now all of a sudden it quit doing it. Nevermind... -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 install report
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 06:05:10PM +0100, Colin Ward wrote: > I've had those same pmud problems since the 8.2beta1 release. I did post > them here and there was a pmud update, it didn't fix the problem for me. The > only way i can get pmud to work on the ibook is to use one of benh's > kernels. You even get a nice little bat meter in status bar and acurate > readout for charging-useage etc. But if i use that kernel my Speed touch > modem refuses to work, which sucks. Everything eles works though, very well. You should be able to get this just by loading the apm_emu module. This will load it whenver you want: modprobe apm_emu add this to your /etc/modules to make it always load: apm_emu -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 install report
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: CW> I've had those same pmud problems since the 8.2beta1 release. I did CW> post them here and there was a pmud update, it didn't fix the problem CW> for me. The only way i can get pmud to work on the ibook is to use one CW> of benh's kernels. You even get a nice little bat meter in status bar CW> and acurate readout for charging-useage etc. But if i use that kernel CW> my Speed touch modem refuses to work, which sucks. Everything eles CW> works though, very well. COlin I run wmbatppc now in my WindowMaker dock which seems to work. I can't say if the readout is accurate, but at least there is some readout that seems correct. wmbatppc uses pmud. -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 install report
on 24/4/02 11:35 pm, Henrik Edlund at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Okay, I am now running 8.2 on my iBook-2001. I have a few comments though: > > The yaboot-setup during install setup yaboot.conf to have > append=" devfs=mount" > . This made the first boot to fail (can not find /dev/hda5). I had to > reset the machine and boot with "linux devfs=nomount" and then remove this > append line deom yaboot.conf and then run ybin. I am running ext3 on all > my file systems. > > Install program should ask if you want to use Linux or Mac keycodes. What > is the way to change to Mac keycodes now? > > Airport is so easy to get working it really should be automatically setup > during install. I just added "alias eth1 airport" to /etc/modules.conf, > copied /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 to ifcfg-eth1, added a > ESSID line to it. Then I just can do "ifup eth1" and Airport is working > without hazzle. > > When I close the lid or press a "sleep" button (in some program) and then > wake the computer up, either by opening lid or pressing a key, then the > screen is frozen (I can see this by that the clock in WindowMaker is not > ticking), and the keyboard has no effect. I can move the mouse cursor > though, but clicking has no effect. I had to do a hard reset. Known > problem? I've had those same pmud problems since the 8.2beta1 release. I did post them here and there was a pmud update, it didn't fix the problem for me. The only way i can get pmud to work on the ibook is to use one of benh's kernels. You even get a nice little bat meter in status bar and acurate readout for charging-useage etc. But if i use that kernel my Speed touch modem refuses to work, which sucks. Everything eles works though, very well. COlin
Re: 8.2 install report
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Henrik Edlund wrote: HE> No symlinks exist for /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd, had to create those (to HE> /dev/hdb in my case). Then "eject" command worked. Also played DVDs HE> successfully and at full speed with Xine (great work!!). Again, fixed by installing devfsd. Still no /dev/dvd though so Xine complains. Fixed this by editing the ~/.xine/config file so that is uses /dev/cdrom instead as DVD device. HE> The volume, light and eject buttons do not work even though I installed HE> the daemon for it. Have to check if it is running later. Added starting of ikeyd to /etc/rc.local. Works like a charm now. -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 install report
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Henrik Edlund wrote: HE> The yaboot-setup during install setup yaboot.conf to have HE> append=" devfs=mount" HE> . This made the first boot to fail (can not find /dev/hda5). I had to HE> reset the machine and boot with "linux devfs=nomount" and then remove this HE> append line deom yaboot.conf and then run ybin. I am running ext3 on all HE> my file systems. This was fixed by installing the devfsd. Maybe this package should be made "enforced" so that users can't deselect it? HE> Airport is so easy to get working it really should be automatically setup HE> during install. I just added "alias eth1 airport" to /etc/modules.conf, HE> copied /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 to ifcfg-eth1, added a HE> ESSID line to it. Then I just can do "ifup eth1" and Airport is working HE> without hazzle. If I choose that I have another Ethernet card that is has detected the gmac card, and then select Apple Airport from the list I get, Airport is setup automatically. Good. -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 install report
Further stuff: No symlinks exist for /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd, had to create those (to /dev/hdb in my case). Then "eject" command worked. Also played DVDs successfully and at full speed with Xine (great work!!). The volume, light and eject buttons do not work even though I installed the daemon for it. Have to check if it is running later. Still very annoyed it hangs in sleep mode, it didn't in 8.0... :-) Otherwise it seems like a more solid release. -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, James, Hunter wrote: JH> I noticed the pwrctl script works with hdparm which is actually not JH> includet in the iso-images. Yepp, you have to get hdparm from one cooker mirror in order to get hard disk sleep and stuff working with pmud. Someone at MandrakeSoft (not Stew) decided hdparm, a fundamental utility, should not be part of the two CD downloadable version. Poor, very poor. -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
I still can't get through to the list, but at least you get this reply. I experience the same problem with my iBook2 (May 2001 model) and 8.2 release. I close the lid and when I open it up again, the screen get back, things are running in the background (I know as I can decrease/increase the backlighting so ikeyd is still running), but the screen is frozen, I can't type. I can move the mouse but clicking does nothing. On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Michael Marcucio wrote: MM> thanks for the quick reply ben. MM> i installed the newest rpm restarted and when i close the lid for a few MM> seconds and open it back up i crash(screen is back to normal but i can't MM> type). i was wondering if you put it to sleep a different way that might MM> work for me? i have a Ti G4 667. thanks for any help.. MM> mike MM> MM> MM> >From: Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MM> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MM> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MM> >Subject: Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm MM> >Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 20:04:17 -0700 MM> > MM> >On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 10:46:10PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote: MM> > > the mirrors have pmud-0.7.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm, where did you get 0.10?? MM> > MM> >http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/pmud-0.10.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm MM> > MM> >-- MM> >Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MM> >http://ben.reser.org MM> > MM> >What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, MM> >whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism MM> >or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi MM> > MM> MM> MM> _ MM> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: MM> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx MM> MM> -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
ben, what kernel are you using? thanks mike >From: Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm >Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:24:46 -0700 > >On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 11:51:55AM +0200, James, Hunter wrote: > > I noticed the pwrctl script works with hdparm which is actually not > > includet in the iso-images. > >Nope I don't have hdparam. > > > Also, the pmud conflicts with some apm rpm's, so am I right > > if i say you haven't installed any of these? > >Nope. > > > I don't think it dosen't work because of a hardware change. > > In fact it works with YDL, after reopening the lid the system > > gets back as it should and dosen't freeze. > >Well if it's not that I'm not sure why it's working for me and not for >you guys. > >-- >Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://ben.reser.org > >What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, >whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism >or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi > _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 11:51:55AM +0200, James, Hunter wrote: > I noticed the pwrctl script works with hdparm which is actually not > includet in the iso-images. Nope I don't have hdparam. > Also, the pmud conflicts with some apm rpm's, so am I right > if i say you haven't installed any of these? Nope. > I don't think it dosen't work because of a hardware change. > In fact it works with YDL, after reopening the lid the system > gets back as it should and dosen't freeze. Well if it's not that I'm not sure why it's working for me and not for you guys. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
On 28/4/02 10:51 am, "James, Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Ben.. > > >> This is what I'm running: >> [breser@titanium breser]$ rpm -q pmud >> pmud-0.10.1-1mdk > > ..well that's the same on my installed system. > > I noticed the pwrctl script works with hdparm which is actually not > includet in the iso-images. > Also, the pmud conflicts with some apm rpm's, so am I right > if i say you haven't installed any of these? > Or just to get some tools to work which base on apm-functions, > but they'r not important to get the pmud stuff to run. > > I don't think it dosen't work because of a hardware change. > In fact it works with YDL, after reopening the lid the system > gets back as it should and dosen't freeze. > > ...still wonder 'bout the whole thing :-) > > james > > > I still have pmud problems(ibook 500), even with the latest pmud. (sounds like the same problem, freezes after you try and wake, just hangs there). Even after a clean install with the final 8.2 release. I can still get suspend (blank screen) as I did before. The only way I've ever been able to get it working properly is to use one of ben H's kernels, but then I can't use my STP USB modem. Trade off I guess. SO I'm also wondering about the whole things. I also couldn't get 8.2 to install on my G4, tried for days. I finely tried yellow dog, just to see what its like and if it would install. It did, first time and all working well. It's not quite the same as mandrake though, for a start you need to know the paths of all terminal programs, not very good for newbies. So now I'm very confused, would like the same linux on my G4 and ibook. Oh well enough of moaning Colin
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
Hi, Ben.. > This is what I'm running: > [breser@titanium breser]$ rpm -q pmud > pmud-0.10.1-1mdk ..well that's the same on my installed system. I noticed the pwrctl script works with hdparm which is actually not includet in the iso-images. Also, the pmud conflicts with some apm rpm's, so am I right if i say you haven't installed any of these? Or just to get some tools to work which base on apm-functions, but they'r not important to get the pmud stuff to run. I don't think it dosen't work because of a hardware change. In fact it works with YDL, after reopening the lid the system gets back as it should and dosen't freeze. ...still wonder 'bout the whole thing :-) james
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 11:33:25PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote: > thanks for the quick reply ben. > i installed the newest rpm restarted and when i close the lid for a few > seconds and open it back up i crash(screen is back to normal but i can't > type). i was wondering if you put it to sleep a different way that might > work for me? i have a Ti G4 667. thanks for any help.. Yeah I'm just shutting the lid. But I have the older 500 mHz model. They changed a bunch of things and it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't change the Power Management stuff... You might try asking the people who make pmud... http://sourceforge.net/projects/apmud/ -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
thanks for the quick reply ben. i installed the newest rpm restarted and when i close the lid for a few seconds and open it back up i crash(screen is back to normal but i can't type). i was wondering if you put it to sleep a different way that might work for me? i have a Ti G4 667. thanks for any help.. mike >From: Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm >Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 20:04:17 -0700 > >On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 10:46:10PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote: > > the mirrors have pmud-0.7.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm, where did you get 0.10?? > >http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/pmud-0.10.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm > >-- >Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://ben.reser.org > >What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, >whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism >or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 10:46:10PM -0400, Michael Marcucio wrote: > the mirrors have pmud-0.7.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm, where did you get 0.10?? http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/pmud-0.10.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
the mirrors have pmud-0.7.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm, where did you get 0.10?? thanks mike >From: Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm >Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 12:56:34 -0700 > >On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 06:57:34PM +0200, James, Hunter wrote: > > Hoi! > > > > I installed 8.2 ppc on my powerbook t4, it goes to sleep very well but > > dosen't wake up. > > I noticed that the pwctrl-local script is locatet/installed by the rpm >package > > at /usr/local/doc/pmu*/ and not at /etc/power/. Should it be like that? > > > > I copied it manually to /etc/power/, but didn't help. > > Anyone who knows something 'bout that? > > > > YDL2.2 has also the pmud and it works as it should, but they patched the > > Makefile. Hhmm..searched any source on the mdk-mirrors to compare > > these things. Any hints? > >My Titanium goes to sleep and wakes up just fine. pwrctl-local is only >used for your local customizations... it isn't necessary for normal >operation. You should have a /etc/power/pwrctl. > >I still haven't upgraded from 8.2beta2 so I'm not sure if 0.10.1 got >included in final or not. But if you aren't running 0.10.1 then that's >probably why it isn't working. > >This is what I'm running: >[breser@titanium breser]$ rpm -q pmud >pmud-0.10.1-1mdk > >-- >Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://ben.reser.org > >What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, >whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism >or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi > _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: 8.2 PPC on Powerbook Ti G4 / pmud.rpm
On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 06:57:34PM +0200, James, Hunter wrote: > Hoi! > > I installed 8.2 ppc on my powerbook t4, it goes to sleep very well but > dosen't wake up. > I noticed that the pwctrl-local script is locatet/installed by the rpm package > at /usr/local/doc/pmu*/ and not at /etc/power/. Should it be like that? > > I copied it manually to /etc/power/, but didn't help. > Anyone who knows something 'bout that? > > YDL2.2 has also the pmud and it works as it should, but they patched the > Makefile. Hhmm..searched any source on the mdk-mirrors to compare > these things. Any hints? My Titanium goes to sleep and wakes up just fine. pwrctl-local is only used for your local customizations... it isn't necessary for normal operation. You should have a /etc/power/pwrctl. I still haven't upgraded from 8.2beta2 so I'm not sure if 0.10.1 got included in final or not. But if you aren't running 0.10.1 then that's probably why it isn't working. This is what I'm running: [breser@titanium breser]$ rpm -q pmud pmud-0.10.1-1mdk -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 ISO's.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 09:59:49AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: > I just double-check the mirror source and it's OK. I passed that info on to someone >that can update the mirrors if necessary. It still wasn't fixed this morning so I concatted some x's to the file reran resync and it fixed it. Guess the difference was small enough rsync was missing it. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
re: 8.2 ISO's.
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:36:09 -0700 Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I've got 8.2 ISO's on my mirror but CD1's md5sum doesn't match. > The file size is the same and rerunning the rsync by hand doesn't seem > to cause it to try to and fix it. So I'm inclined to think that either > the file is corrupted on the mirrors or the md5sum is wrong. > Thanks Ben, I just double-check the mirror source and it's OK. I passed that info on to someone that can update the mirrors if necessary. Stew Benedict
Re: 8.2
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:44:03PM +0200, Stefan Strandberg wrote: > Has anyone found it? I'd guess they are starting to go out. CD2 of the 8.2 beta2 has been deleted off my mirror. Since I have it set to not delete more than one file in that tree, I'd guess my upstream is starting to get the files and has already deleted it's local copies of beta2. So I'd guess by later this afternoon (US time) it'll be on the mirrors. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I saw that on Mandrake Club but nothing new since one month on mirror... I hope it is in good way. Le Lundi 22 Avril 2002 12:44, Stefan Strandberg a écrit : > On 02-04-22 00.36, "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 13:03:24 -0500 > > > > Todd Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> yesterday Mandrake club indicated that 8.2 for ppc is ready. > >> > >> when will it be on the mirrors? > >> > >> -todd > > > > Should be soon, if not already. > > > > Stew Benedict > > Has anyone found it? > > /Stefan - -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzD64kACgkQk29cDOWzfVDBIQCfSTGK74wTP2omzkhm0j82mfvg q7IAoNBh9gK7idguIfYJfy+x4LEuknk+ =aL+Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: 8.2
On 02-04-22 00.36, "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 13:03:24 -0500 > Todd Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> yesterday Mandrake club indicated that 8.2 for ppc is ready. >> >> when will it be on the mirrors? >> >> -todd >> > > Should be soon, if not already. > > Stew Benedict > Has anyone found it? /Stefan
Re: 8.2
On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 13:03:24 -0500 Todd Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yesterday Mandrake club indicated that 8.2 for ppc is ready. > > when will it be on the mirrors? > > -todd > Should be soon, if not already. Stew Benedict
Re: 8.2 won't start
> > Yeah I have installed Pico now, but I don¹t know what to change in > XF86Config-4 file, in YDL all I had to do was to specify the drivers. But > Mandrake has already done that. The drivers are "nv" and it recognizes my > card as a GeForce3. I think that I have to specify some monitor settings. > > But I don¹t know how to do that.. =( My preferred settings are 1280x1024 @ > 85Hz ( vertical:85hz and hor: 91.146khz) can I edit the XF86Config-4 file so > that I get this resolution? Or do I do that in another file? > Same file. Take a look at: the modelines section, see if there is one for 1280x1024 then add entries down below, where you see: Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection and add "1280x1024" before "1024x768" You can also use drakxconf This still may not work, as YDL patches were released as source, I had to wait until the 2.2 release and borrow from their srpm Stew Benedict
Re: 8.2 won't start
On 02-04-18 23.58, "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:37:51 +0200 > Stefan Strandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi, me again.. >> >> I have installed Mandrake 8.2Beta2 on my QS 867, Gefroce3 LG Flatron 915+. >> But when I start it, my monitor goes to power save mode. It is as if it goes >> out of sync .. I think its just when KDE are about to start( just after all >> the [ok] flashes by and it says something about login). I have tried >> different monitor settings under the installation, but I get the same thing >> every time. >> >> When I installed YDL 2.2 I had to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file so >> that it should work with my GF3 card. (change the driver to "nv") Do I have >> to do that now also? And if so, how? How do I start so that I can edit those >> files? In YDL I used Pico, but I don¹t know how to do that in Mandrake. >> > The final will have the same nv patches in the kernel and X as YDL2.2, so your > technique may work. > > To edit, vim is installed by default. If you want pico, install pine, as it is > part of that package. > > Stew Benedict > Yeah I have installed Pico now, but I don¹t know what to change in XF86Config-4 file, in YDL all I had to do was to specify the drivers. But Mandrake has already done that. The drivers are "nv" and it recognizes my card as a GeForce3. I think that I have to specify some monitor settings. But I don¹t know how to do that.. =( My preferred settings are 1280x1024 @ 85Hz ( vertical:85hz and hor: 91.146khz) can I edit the XF86Config-4 file so that I get this resolution? Or do I do that in another file? Thanks /Stefan "newbi" Strandberg
Re: 8.2 won't start
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 23:37:51 +0200 Stefan Strandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, me again.. > > I have installed Mandrake 8.2Beta2 on my QS 867, Gefroce3 LG Flatron 915+. > But when I start it, my monitor goes to power save mode. It is as if it goes > out of sync .. I think its just when KDE are about to start( just after all > the [ok] flashes by and it says something about login). I have tried > different monitor settings under the installation, but I get the same thing > every time. > > When I installed YDL 2.2 I had to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file so > that it should work with my GF3 card. (change the driver to "nv") Do I have > to do that now also? And if so, how? How do I start so that I can edit those > files? In YDL I used Pico, but I don¹t know how to do that in Mandrake. > The final will have the same nv patches in the kernel and X as YDL2.2, so your technique may work. To edit, vim is installed by default. If you want pico, install pine, as it is part of that package. Stew Benedict
Re: 8.2 won't start
On 02-04-18 11.00, "Ben Reser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 10:16:34AM +0200, Stefan Strandberg wrote: >> The linux 3 thing worked great but, I noticed that I don¹t have pico >> installed... =( So how can I edit XF86Config-4 file? > > Well I'd say use vi, but I'm gonna guess you're not familiar with it. > Probably the best thing to do is as root run: > urpmi pine > > That should install pine for you and it's dependcies. Be sure to have > your install cds handy when you do this. > > After it's done you'll have pico. > >> And if that¹s not the problem? Have anyone else had problems like this? The >> monitor goes to power save mode just before KDE about to start. > > I can't recall anyone reporting it... But I can't really say for sure > what the problem is. Thanks for the help! I installed Pico and tried to edit the XF86Config-4 file but without any luck. The screen turns off when I write "startx".. What can be the problem? All works fine as long as don¹t start the graphical environment. If I want to add my monitor settings in XF86Config-4 how do I get it to use them? My preferred setting is 1280x1024 @ 85Khz. (Horizontal: 91.146, vert: 85) What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance... /Stefan
Re: 8.2 won't start
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 10:16:34AM +0200, Stefan Strandberg wrote: > The linux 3 thing worked great but, I noticed that I don¹t have pico > installed... =( So how can I edit XF86Config-4 file? Well I'd say use vi, but I'm gonna guess you're not familiar with it. Probably the best thing to do is as root run: urpmi pine That should install pine for you and it's dependcies. Be sure to have your install cds handy when you do this. After it's done you'll have pico. > And if that¹s not the problem? Have anyone else had problems like this? The > monitor goes to power save mode just before KDE about to start. I can't recall anyone reporting it... But I can't really say for sure what the problem is. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 won't start
On 02-04-17 23.55, "Ben Reser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:37:51PM +0200, Stefan Strandberg wrote: >> Hi, me again.. >> >> I have installed Mandrake 8.2Beta2 on my QS 867, Gefroce3 LG Flatron 915+. >> But when I start it, my monitor goes to power save mode. It is as if it goes >> out of sync .. I think its just when KDE are about to start( just after all >> the [ok] flashes by and it says something about login). I have tried >> different monitor settings under the installation, but I get the same thing >> every time. >> >> When I installed YDL 2.2 I had to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file so >> that it should work with my GF3 card. (change the driver to "nv") Do I have >> to do that now also? And if so, how? How do I start so that I can edit those >> files? In YDL I used Pico, but I don¹t know how to do that in Mandrake. > > There should be no difference in how you edit those files. As long as > you have the pine package installed you'll have pico. > > You can choose not to start X by default on boot in the installer or if > it's already installed you can at the boot prompt instead of just say > entering: > linux > > enter: > linux 3 > > That will put you in boot you into boot level 3 which won't start X. > Then you can edit the XF86Config-4 file. If you have the config file > from YDL you should be able to just use it. The linux 3 thing worked great but, I noticed that I don¹t have pico installed... =( So how can I edit XF86Config-4 file? And if that¹s not the problem? Have anyone else had problems like this? The monitor goes to power save mode just before KDE about to start. Thanks for the help /Stefan
Re: 8.2 won't start
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:37:51PM +0200, Stefan Strandberg wrote: > Hi, me again.. > > I have installed Mandrake 8.2Beta2 on my QS 867, Gefroce3 LG Flatron 915+. > But when I start it, my monitor goes to power save mode. It is as if it goes > out of sync .. I think its just when KDE are about to start( just after all > the [ok] flashes by and it says something about login). I have tried > different monitor settings under the installation, but I get the same thing > every time. > > When I installed YDL 2.2 I had to change the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file so > that it should work with my GF3 card. (change the driver to "nv") Do I have > to do that now also? And if so, how? How do I start so that I can edit those > files? In YDL I used Pico, but I don¹t know how to do that in Mandrake. There should be no difference in how you edit those files. As long as you have the pine package installed you'll have pico. You can choose not to start X by default on boot in the installer or if it's already installed you can at the boot prompt instead of just say entering: linux enter: linux 3 That will put you in boot you into boot level 3 which won't start X. Then you can edit the XF86Config-4 file. If you have the config file from YDL you should be able to just use it. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: > Ben Reser wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:50:22AM +0100, Colin Ward wrote: > > > >>>Stew Benedict > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Yes steve, would love to do that for you. Let me know when you've got > >>something. And thanks for the link > >>COlin > >> > > > > Hey Colin. Does Stew look like Steve? > > I'm presuming Stew is short for Stewart. > > > > > > yes, sorry typo. Thanks for correcting me ;-) > Colin > No problems, I'm called all manner of "S" names other than Stew. I guess it's not that common. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
Ben Reser wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:50:22AM +0100, Colin Ward wrote: > >>>Stew Benedict >>> >>> >>> >>Yes steve, would love to do that for you. Let me know when you've got >>something. And thanks for the link >>COlin >> > > Hey Colin. Does Stew look like Steve? > I'm presuming Stew is short for Stewart. > > yes, sorry typo. Thanks for correcting me ;-) Colin
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:41:08AM -0400, Stew Benedict wrote: > I also don't know why pmud is so problematic for you. If I recall you > don't have the latest greatest ibook right? Power management did not work > correctly on the new TiBook, but these things are a matter of letting the > development catch up with the hardware. The new pmud is up on my web > space, if anyone want's to try it. > > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict This pmud doesn't hang my machine when it wakes up from a suspend. :) Wahoo! -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:50:22AM +0100, Colin Ward wrote: > > Stew Benedict > > > > > > Yes steve, would love to do that for you. Let me know when you've got > something. And thanks for the link > COlin Hey Colin. Does Stew look like Steve? I'm presuming Stew is short for Stewart. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
Stew Benedict wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: > > i have been testing teh latest version. One thing, the other day i again tried one of benh's kernels and pmud seemed to work perfectly. It would sleep and wake up very quickly and didn't crash. Problem was though after installing it i couldn't get my USB modem to work, and DRI wasn't enabled. I have last years (may 2001)ibook2. The first one released, luckily with the hard modem. > > Colin, I can look at Ben's kernel and see if I can pull in any new power > management stuff into the Mandrake kernel, without impacting too many > other things. Would you be willing to test it? > > >>Sorry steve but whats the file called? i've looked here >>ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc/ >>and there are a number of things that begin cd-, but i'm not sure whats >>what. Sorry to be a pain >>Colin >> >> > > No Prob, I'm not seeing it either. Try this: > > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk.ppc.rpm > > > Stew Benedict > > Yes steve, would love to do that for you. Let me know when you've got something. And thanks for the link COlin
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again) - Trackpad
it stops tapping altogether. Although I believe you can adjust the sensitivty too. I would install the pmud package, and type 'trackpad', it tells you the options! N On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 10:25, Michael Marcucio wrote: > > > > >From: Nick Texidor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 03:41, Michael Marcucio wrote: > > > i had that prob too until i learned not to touch the trackpad while > >typing > > > ;) in macos there is an option to turn off trackpad while typing while > >in > > > linux i never seen such an option.. > > > >Hi Mike, > > > >install the pmud package, then as superuser (haven't figured out how to > >do it as my normal user yet) enter 'trackpad notap' > > > >N > > > does this disable tapping all-together or just when you are typing? > thanks > mike > > _ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > -- Nick Texidor Technical Director Webbods Pty Ltd eml: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.webbods.com.au tel: 0414 810284 aol: texinick icq: 398
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: > >>i have been testing teh latest version. One thing, the other day i again > >>tried one of benh's kernels and pmud seemed to work perfectly. It would > >>sleep and wake up very quickly and didn't crash. Problem was though > >>after installing it i couldn't get my USB modem to work, and DRI wasn't > >>enabled. I have last years (may 2001)ibook2. The first one released, > >>luckily with the hard modem. > >> > >> Colin, I can look at Ben's kernel and see if I can pull in any new power management stuff into the Mandrake kernel, without impacting too many other things. Would you be willing to test it? > > Sorry steve but whats the file called? i've looked here > ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc/ > and there are a number of things that begin cd-, but i'm not sure whats > what. Sorry to be a pain > Colin > No Prob, I'm not seeing it either. Try this: http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/xmms-cdread-0.14a-2mdk.ppc.rpm Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
>From: Nick Texidor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 03:41, Michael Marcucio wrote: > > i had that prob too until i learned not to touch the trackpad while >typing > > ;) in macos there is an option to turn off trackpad while typing while >in > > linux i never seen such an option.. > >Hi Mike, > >install the pmud package, then as superuser (haven't figured out how to >do it as my normal user yet) enter 'trackpad notap' > >N > does this disable tapping all-together or just when you are typing? thanks mike _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 03:41, Michael Marcucio wrote: > i had that prob too until i learned not to touch the trackpad while typing > ;) in macos there is an option to turn off trackpad while typing while in > linux i never seen such an option.. Hi Mike, install the pmud package, then as superuser (haven't figured out how to do it as my normal user yet) enter 'trackpad notap' N -- Nick Texidor Technical Director Webbods Pty Ltd eml: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.webbods.com.au tel: 0414 810284 aol: texinick icq: 398
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
Stew Benedict wrote: > On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: > > >> >>>I also don't know why pmud is so problematic for you. If I recall you >>>don't have the latest greatest ibook right? Power management did not work >>>correctly on the new TiBook, but these things are a matter of letting the >>>development catch up with the hardware. The new pmud is up on my web >>>space, if anyone want's to try it. >>> >>>http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict >>> >> >>i have been testing teh latest version. One thing, the other day i again >>tried one of benh's kernels and pmud seemed to work perfectly. It would >>sleep and wake up very quickly and didn't crash. Problem was though >>after installing it i couldn't get my USB modem to work, and DRI wasn't >>enabled. I have last years (may 2001)ibook2. The first one released, >>luckily with the hard modem. >> >> > > tradeoffs I guess ;^) > > i also can't play audio CD's. I can if i rip them to MP3s and burn them to cd, and the sound is perfect. I know there was a issue with this but thought it had been fixed? >>>I wasn't aware of anything that needed to be fixed. It's a known issue >>>that Apple removed the analog connection between the CDROM and soundcard >>>on newer machines and you have to use the cdreader plugin to play CD's. >>>It's also known that xmms and supermount are somewhat less than >>>compatible. These issues also exist on x86. I tested the cdreader plugin >>>on the TiBook Phil lent me, and it seemed to work fine. >>> >>> >>Ok, where do i get the CD reader plug-in? i haven't seen it anyware. >> >> > > It's in contribs on the mirrors. I moved into main for the final PPC > release though. I tried to package it as part of xmms, but the maintainer > would have no part of it. > > Stew Benedict > > Sorry steve but whats the file called? i've looked here ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/ftp.mandrake-linux.com/Mandrake-devel/contrib/ppc/ and there are a number of things that begin cd-, but i'm not sure whats what. Sorry to be a pain Colin
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: > > > > I also don't know why pmud is so problematic for you. If I recall you > > don't have the latest greatest ibook right? Power management did not work > > correctly on the new TiBook, but these things are a matter of letting the > > development catch up with the hardware. The new pmud is up on my web > > space, if anyone want's to try it. > > > > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict > > > i have been testing teh latest version. One thing, the other day i again > tried one of benh's kernels and pmud seemed to work perfectly. It would > sleep and wake up very quickly and didn't crash. Problem was though > after installing it i couldn't get my USB modem to work, and DRI wasn't > enabled. I have last years (may 2001)ibook2. The first one released, > luckily with the hard modem. > tradeoffs I guess ;^) > >>i also can't play audio CD's. I can if i rip them to MP3s and burn > >>them to cd, and the sound is perfect. I know there was a issue with this > >>but thought it had been fixed? > >> > >> > > > > I wasn't aware of anything that needed to be fixed. It's a known issue > > that Apple removed the analog connection between the CDROM and soundcard > > on newer machines and you have to use the cdreader plugin to play CD's. > > It's also known that xmms and supermount are somewhat less than > > compatible. These issues also exist on x86. I tested the cdreader plugin > > on the TiBook Phil lent me, and it seemed to work fine. > > > Ok, where do i get the CD reader plug-in? i haven't seen it anyware. > It's in contribs on the mirrors. I moved into main for the final PPC release though. I tried to package it as part of xmms, but the maintainer would have no part of it. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
> I also don't know why pmud is so problematic for you. If I recall you > don't have the latest greatest ibook right? Power management did not work > correctly on the new TiBook, but these things are a matter of letting the > development catch up with the hardware. The new pmud is up on my web > space, if anyone want's to try it. > > http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict i have been testing teh latest version. One thing, the other day i again tried one of benh's kernels and pmud seemed to work perfectly. It would sleep and wake up very quickly and didn't crash. Problem was though after installing it i couldn't get my USB modem to work, and DRI wasn't enabled. I have last years (may 2001)ibook2. The first one released, luckily with the hard modem. >>i also can't play audio CD's. I can if i rip them to MP3s and burn >>them to cd, and the sound is perfect. I know there was a issue with this >>but thought it had been fixed? >> >> > > I wasn't aware of anything that needed to be fixed. It's a known issue > that Apple removed the analog connection between the CDROM and soundcard > on newer machines and you have to use the cdreader plugin to play CD's. > It's also known that xmms and supermount are somewhat less than > compatible. These issues also exist on x86. I tested the cdreader plugin > on the TiBook Phil lent me, and it seemed to work fine. > Ok, where do i get the CD reader plug-in? i haven't seen it anyware. COlin
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
LOL maybe this is not what they mean :-) On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 13:41, Michael Marcucio wrote: > i had that prob too until i learned not to touch the trackpad while typing > ;) in macos there is an option to turn off trackpad while typing while in > linux i never seen such an option.. > mike > > > >From: Justin Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: 8.2 beta issues (again) > >Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:06:31 -0700 (PDT) > > > >I have the same problem with the jumpy trackpad > >(iBook2) while typing, too. At first I thought I was > >touching the trackpad with my thumbs, but I don't > >think that's it. Something else is causing the focus > >to go away from where the user is typing. > > > >--- Johanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > - The text cursor still tends to jump away to where > > > the mouse cursor is, > > > which is REALLY REALLY annoying when typing text. > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > -- )(- Luis Mondesi System Administrator/Web developer LatinoMixed.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] This fortune intentionally not included. Be secured. Get the public signature here: http://www.latinomixed.com/lems1/public-a.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
i had that prob too until i learned not to touch the trackpad while typing ;) in macos there is an option to turn off trackpad while typing while in linux i never seen such an option.. mike >From: Justin Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: 8.2 beta issues (again) >Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 10:06:31 -0700 (PDT) > >I have the same problem with the jumpy trackpad >(iBook2) while typing, too. At first I thought I was >touching the trackpad with my thumbs, but I don't >think that's it. Something else is causing the focus >to go away from where the user is typing. > >--- Johanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > - The text cursor still tends to jump away to where > > the mouse cursor is, > > which is REALLY REALLY annoying when typing text. > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
I have the same problem with the jumpy trackpad (iBook2) while typing, too. At first I thought I was touching the trackpad with my thumbs, but I don't think that's it. Something else is causing the focus to go away from where the user is typing. --- Johanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - The text cursor still tends to jump away to where > the mouse cursor is, > which is REALLY REALLY annoying when typing text. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
> Anyone else with USB printers that are working? I'm running Mandrake 8.2 beta 2. I have an HP DeskJet 940c USB printer. It's plugged into a 7-port Belkin USB hub, which is plugged into a USB port on my Pismo. I ran the Mandrake printer setup, chose a manual configuration, and set it for USB printer #0. It doesn't really matter what physical port the printer is plugged into. From what I can tell, the first USB printer to be detected shows up as USB printer #0. It works perfectly for me. Here is the USB data on my printer from 'cat /proc/bus/usb/devices' T: Bus=02 Lev=02 Prnt=02 Port=05 Cnt=01 Dev#= 3 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=03f0 ProdID=1604 Rev= 1.00 S: Manufacturer=Hewlett-Packard S: Product=DeskJet 940C S: SerialNumber=MX15L6F0S6BH C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 2mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 2 Cls=07(print) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usblp E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl= 0ms Here are the kernel mods loading at startup: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 0 alt 0 printer.c: v0.8:USB Printer Device Class driver Peter
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: > I hadn't noticed this as i don't do to much typing. Yesterday my wife > was in a hurry and was writing some emails in ML. She would normaly boot > into macos or use her compaq laptop. Well she reported to same thing > while writing emails in a web browser. At first i thought she must be > accidently touching the trak-pad or something, but shes a 90wpm person > and after wacthing for a while i saw that she wasn't touching the pad at > all. So could that be looked into. > This one is quite new to me. I've never noticed the mouse wandering about, but I'm no 90wpm typist myself. If trackpad can't do anything for it, you could try adjusting the sensitivty in one of the control panels. There was an issue at one time with trackpad "jitters" on waking from sleep, but pmud was patched for that. > Another bug i've found is with the ADSLspeed touch pro modem setup. I've > managed to get mine working now for a few weeks, and it took some trial > and error. When i want to connect i always have to load the modem > microcode manuly by doing > 'modem_run -m -f /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o'. > > Using the 'connect'tab in CC does nothing. i then have to go through the > 'wizard' to re-enter my isp details. I'm then told that i'm not > connected, but really i am .(i've read that the pc version sometimes > does this) > From there it stays connected for days if need be and is very stable(i > also get a faster download speed than macos9/x or wintel), its just a > hassle having to go through the whole process if for some reason i have > to disconect. Can this be looked at, the Alcatel USB modem is very > populer and i know a number of people that want to use it with linux of > any kind. I still can't get pmud to start and boot, and it still won't > wake from sleep after i have started it manuly. > I don't really know anything about this device, but it doesn't sound like the issues are unique to PPC. You might try posting those issue in Mandrake forum and see if the maintainer of that package would respond. I also don't know why pmud is so problematic for you. If I recall you don't have the latest greatest ibook right? Power management did not work correctly on the new TiBook, but these things are a matter of letting the development catch up with the hardware. The new pmud is up on my web space, if anyone want's to try it. http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict > i also can't play audio CD's. I can if i rip them to MP3s and burn > them to cd, and the sound is perfect. I know there was a issue with this > but thought it had been fixed? > I wasn't aware of anything that needed to be fixed. It's a known issue that Apple removed the analog connection between the CDROM and soundcard on newer machines and you have to use the cdreader plugin to play CD's. It's also known that xmms and supermount are somewhat less than compatible. These issues also exist on x86. I tested the cdreader plugin on the TiBook Phil lent me, and it seemed to work fine. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again), and some
Johanna wrote: > Okay, I've given it another try and spent yesterday on re-installing > Mandrake and trying to tweak. Not very successfully, but at leat I > understand a little more of Linux now, I believe :-) > > Three main issues remain unsolved for me, and I'd really, REALLY > appreciate any help on them, as I'm quite keen on getting at least a > Linux system I can work with for the beginning on my iBook2: > > - The text cursor still tends to jump away to where the mouse cursor is, > which is REALLY REALLY annoying when typing text. As I want to use Linux > in order to write research papers and theses on Lyx, I somehow have to > resolve that issue. Could it have anything to do with poor trackpad > control? I.e., that I possible touch the trackpad lightly while typing > and the system interprets this as a mouse click? How could I find out if > this is the case and possibly fix it? > > - I've followed Sylvain's HowTo on changing the keyboard layout. The > result was that NEITHER the alt nor the Apple/AltGr button produced any > secondary signs like @, EUR etc. My problem was not the keyboard mapping > in itself - that's basically identical between PC and Mac in Germany > (perhaps I've expressed myself unclearly previously) but the function of > the other keys, ESP. the alt key and the wonderful signs it produces in > MacOS. Is there any way to change it (I know, it might interfere with > lots of shortcuts) and how do I do it? > > - My printer still doesn't work, and I don't know why. It's a Lexmark Z > 42 which is supported by Gimp-print. I could chose it in the printer > menu in the Mandrake Control center. I tried chosing all the USB ports > (actually, it's in USB #2), several resolutions etc., but to no avail. I > don't get any error messages; Linux seems to be under the impression > that the printer works, there are no print jobs on queue left when I > check, but no printed page cames out. The printer works perfectly under > MacOS, so I'm a bit at a loss. Being able to print would be quite > important for me... > > I'll try Stew's suggestion re the CD-drive as soon as I've booted > Mandrake again - at the moment, a huge download is running under MacOS > which I don't want to interrupt for too long. > > Modem is fortunately not so important for me (anyway, not Mandrake's > fault it doesn't work), I've got ADSL, which works just fine. > > I haven't tried burning CDs yet - I hope that works without too much > hassle? Mandrake obviously recognizes my CD-RW as a Sony RW XYZ, so that > seems to be fine. > > Johanna > > > > I hadn't noticed this as i don't do to much typing. Yesterday my wife was in a hurry and was writing some emails in ML. She would normaly boot into macos or use her compaq laptop. Well she reported to same thing while writing emails in a web browser. At first i thought she must be accidently touching the trak-pad or something, but shes a 90wpm person and after wacthing for a while i saw that she wasn't touching the pad at all. So could that be looked into. Another bug i've found is with the ADSLspeed touch pro modem setup. I've managed to get mine working now for a few weeks, and it took some trial and error. When i want to connect i always have to load the modem microcode manuly by doing 'modem_run -m -f /usr/share/speedtouch/mgmt.o'. Using the 'connect'tab in CC does nothing. i then have to go through the 'wizard' to re-enter my isp details. I'm then told that i'm not connected, but really i am .(i've read that the pc version sometimes does this) From there it stays connected for days if need be and is very stable(i also get a faster download speed than macos9/x or wintel), its just a hassle having to go through the whole process if for some reason i have to disconect. Can this be looked at, the Alcatel USB modem is very populer and i know a number of people that want to use it with linux of any kind. I still can't get pmud to start and boot, and it still won't wake from sleep after i have started it manuly. i also can't play audio CD's. I can if i rip them to MP3s and burn them to cd, and the sound is perfect. I know there was a issue with this but thought it had been fixed? Apart from the probems i have mentiond my ibook is working very well under this latest beta. The disply is so sharp and crisp and it runs very fast, faster than macos. It also runs a lot cooler under linux. It used to get so hot when using os9/x. It also very stable as in Keep up the good work stew, i for one really appreciate all the hard work that you've done. Colin
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Johanna wrote: > Okay, I've given it another try and spent yesterday on re-installing > Mandrake and trying to tweak. Not very successfully, but at leat I > understand a little more of Linux now, I believe :-) > > Three main issues remain unsolved for me, and I'd really, REALLY > appreciate any help on them, as I'm quite keen on getting at least a > Linux system I can work with for the beginning on my iBook2: > > - The text cursor still tends to jump away to where the mouse cursor is, > which is REALLY REALLY annoying when typing text. As I want to use Linux > in order to write research papers and theses on Lyx, I somehow have to > resolve that issue. Could it have anything to do with poor trackpad > control? I.e., that I possible touch the trackpad lightly while typing > and the system interprets this as a mouse click? How could I find out if > this is the case and possibly fix it? > As Nick mentioned, you can look into the "trackpad" command. > - I've followed Sylvain's HowTo on changing the keyboard layout. The > result was that NEITHER the alt nor the Apple/AltGr button produced any > secondary signs like @, EUR etc. My problem was not the keyboard mapping > in itself - that's basically identical between PC and Mac in Germany > (perhaps I've expressed myself unclearly previously) but the function of > the other keys, ESP. the alt key and the wonderful signs it produces in > MacOS. Is there any way to change it (I know, it might interfere with > lots of shortcuts) and how do I do it? > Sure, you can customize the keymap any way you'd like. The AltGr and compose definitions currently in place are for Linux keycodes, but you can modify: /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/include/compose.inc.gz (for this one you may want to make a copy in /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/mac ) You an find the keycodes using showkey /etc/X11/xinit.d/PPC_altgr_compose is the file defining things for X. You can use xev, part of X11R6-contrib, to find the X keycodes. > - My printer still doesn't work, and I don't know why. It's a Lexmark Z > 42 which is supported by Gimp-print. I could chose it in the printer > menu in the Mandrake Control center. I tried chosing all the USB ports > (actually, it's in USB #2), several resolutions etc., but to no avail. I > don't get any error messages; Linux seems to be under the impression > that the printer works, there are no print jobs on queue left when I > check, but no printed page cames out. The printer works perfectly under > MacOS, so I'm a bit at a loss. Being able to print would be quite > important for me... > This one is a little hard to diagnose. I don't have any USB printers here. The kernel USB driver is in place. You can check that linux sees the printer on the USB bus: dmesg | grep USB There should be a printer driver module loaded: /lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drivers/usb/printer.o.gz (use /sbin/lsmod to verify) Anyone else with USB printers that are working? > I haven't tried burning CDs yet - I hope that works without too much > hassle? Mandrake obviously recognizes my CD-RW as a Sony RW XYZ, so that > seems to be fine. > I know it works fine with a SCSI burner on my Powerbook. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta issues (again)
> - The text cursor still tends to jump away to where the mouse cursor is, > which is REALLY REALLY annoying when typing text. As I want to use Linux > in order to write research papers and theses on Lyx, I somehow have to > resolve that issue. Could it have anything to do with poor trackpad > control? I.e., that I possible touch the trackpad lightly while typing > and the system interprets this as a mouse click? How could I find out if > this is the case and possibly fix it? It sounds to me like it may be the trackpad... You could try the 'trackpad notap' command? I think it's part of the pmud package. -- Nick Texidor Technical Director Webbods Pty Ltd eml: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.webbods.com.au tel: 0414 810284 aol: texinick icq: 398
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Stew Benedict wrote:
SB> When I made the decision, I was under the impression this was the way
SB> everyone was moving. The plus side of it was the wealth of keyboard maps
SB> available for the Linux keymaps, compared to the handful we have for macs.
SB> This also allows things like the keyboard selector in the control center
SB> to work properly, etc. etc.
SB>
SB> As a US user, both methods work fine for me. I didn't realize until not
SB> that long ago that the Linux keymapping varies so greatly from the
SB> physical keyboard markings on non-US keyboards, making for a confusing
SB> experience. I mistakenly assumed the physical layout, of say a French
SB> keyboard, would be similar on a Mac, as it is on a PC, but that is not the
SB> case apparently.
Sadly not. This is why I had a hell when I made my Swedish Mac keymap for
my iBook2, as I had to boot into MacOS to check what keys really should
come out of some keys (as I wanted it to match MacOS exactly).
Example for Swedish keyboard:
{ - AltGr-7 (PC), Shift-Alt-8 (Mac)
} - AltGr-0 (PC), Shift-Alt-9 (Mac)
[ - AltGr-8 (PC), Alt-8 (Mac)
] - AltGr-9 (PC), Alt-9 (Mac)
For a programmer is is important the above are consistent. I am glad now
that Apple released a new Swedish keyboard when they began with USB (incl
iBook2). The new keyboard is called Swedish Pro, and the only difference
between the old and the new is that the at-sign (@) has moved from being
Alt-* (directly left of ENTER key) to being standard Alt-2 (AltGR-2 on
PC). I will probably revert to Mac keycodes after installing 8.2 as I want
to the same key to produce the same characters as under MacOS on my Mac.
Having the key produce the same character as printed on it has great value
to me, now when I have given up PC compatibles totally.
I am though used to learning different keyboards, during the day I use a
Sun keyboard which has the AltGr key more to the right than on a PC
keyboard.
PS. I tried to call Apple to get a US keyboard for my iBook2. They have
sent me new Swedish keyboards earlier to replace my 3 broken ones. They
said they can't send me a replacement US keyboard if I own a
Swedish-bought iBook2. Idiots! This is same shit I had with MacOSX. I
could not get English (Tier 1) MacOSX with my Swedish-bought iBook2, so
after I had received it I had to shell out $150 to buy the Tier 1 version,
even though I offered myself to return the bundled Tier 2 (Swedish)
version that I had no intention to use.
--
http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
> I agree. Probably most of the problems I mentioned can be fixed, but > really, many of us don't want to open their shell and type two command > lines just in order to open their CD drives. The gnome file manager (Nautilus) ejects CDROMs automatically when you umount them by right clicking on a volume (or in the "Disks" section of the desktop right click menu). Same kind of process in KDE. There is another solution : you can just write a shell script : #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/eject /dev/cdrom Then change its permissions to let it be an executable : chmod u+x yourscript.sh And then put it on your desktop (copy it on the desktop or use a desktop launcher if you want it to have a nice icon+tooltip) or on a panel/dock. You can then use it when you want with a single/double click. Another solution again : you can configure your cdrom to auto-eject cdroms when you umount them. The setting is in /proc/sys/cdrom/autoeject. The default value in this file is O : no ejection. Change it to 1 and it's done. Maybe there will be problems with automounters if there is one enabled (it mounts and umounts removable media automatically when you put it on the drive). Maybe the automounter will decide to umount (and eject !) a cdrom after an amount of time of inactivity of the drive. Attention : the files in /proc aren't stored on the hard disk but are always recreated in ram. If you want to keep the setting at next boot, you'll have to add a line in the file /etc/sysctl.conf which should be : dev.cdrom.autoeject = 1 > Some things worked just fine, but others don't at all. I could select > and install my printer, but unfortunately it won't print - Linux says > it's printing, printer status is fine, but no printed page comes out. None of the documentation > gives me any hint on what to do if the proper procedure fails to work. I > tried to follow Sylvains HowTo on changing the keymap. Unfortunately, > the mac keymaps are unpacked (.gz), I couldn't unpack them as a normal > user, tried to do so as root, the whole system crashed and now even > won't start up again. Okay, probably I did everything wrong, but will > the average Mandrake user know better than myself how to deal with stuff > like this? I don't think so. I spent the whole day on this and didn't > make any substantial progress. Then the annoying thing with the cursor > jumping around, of which I don't have ANY idea on how to change it... You don't have to unpack the keymaps... Linux read them packed. Bertrand dekoninck.
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
> I agree. Probably most of the problems I mentioned can be fixed, but > really, many of us don't want to open their shell and type two command > lines just in order to open their CD drives. The gnome file manager (Nautilus) ejects CDROMs automatically when you umount them by right clicking on a volume (or in the "Disks" section of the desktop right click menu). That's just a KDE issue. There is a solution : you can just write a shell script : #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/eject /dev/cdrom Then change its permissions to let it be an executable : chmod u+x yourscript.sh And then put it on your desktop (copy it on the desktop or use a desktop launcher if you want it to have a nice icon+tooltip) or on a panel/dock. You can then use it when you want with a single/double click. Another solution again : you can configure your cdrom to auto-eject cdroms when you umount them. The setting is in /proc/sys/cdrom/autoeject. The default value in this file is O : no ejection. Change it to 1 and it's done. Maybe there will be problems with automounters if there is one enabled (it mounts and umounts removable media automatically when you put it on the drive). Maybe the automounter will decide to umount (and eject !) a cdrom after an amount of time of inactivity of the drive. Attention : the files in /proc aren't stored on the hard disk but are always recreated in ram. If you want to keep the setting at next boot, you'll have to add a line in the file /etc/sysctl.conf which should be : dev.cdrom.autoeject = 1 > Some things worked just fine, but others don't at all. I could select > and install my printer, but unfortunately it won't print - Linux says > it's printing, printer status is fine, but no printed page comes out. None of the documentation > gives me any hint on what to do if the proper procedure fails to work. I > tried to follow Sylvains HowTo on changing the keymap. Unfortunately, > the mac keymaps are unpacked (.gz), I couldn't unpack them as a normal > user, tried to do so as root, the whole system crashed and now even > won't start up again. Okay, probably I did everything wrong, but will > the average Mandrake user know better than myself how to deal with stuff > like this? I don't think so. I spent the whole day on this and didn't > make any substantial progress. Then the annoying thing with the cursor > jumping around, of which I don't have ANY idea on how to change it... You don't have to unpack the keymaps... Linux read them packed. Bertrand dekoninck.
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Johanna wrote: > Another comment (okay, I'm pushing it today...) > > I don't really know why you decided to use PC keyboard maps for 8.2 - > probably a lot of users will use MacOS as well as Linux, and I think > it's kind of awkward to have to get used to different keyboard maps in > between sessions. Anyhow, at least there should be an easy option, > either in the installer or in the Control Center, to change to a Mac > keyboard map. If that is not possible, I think lots of people will be > less than happy with an OS where you the keyboard layout doesn't match > the keyboard and CDs can only be inserted by tiping command lines in the > console. > When I made the decision, I was under the impression this was the way everyone was moving. The plus side of it was the wealth of keyboard maps available for the Linux keymaps, compared to the handful we have for macs. This also allows things like the keyboard selector in the control center to work properly, etc. etc. As a US user, both methods work fine for me. I didn't realize until not that long ago that the Linux keymapping varies so greatly from the physical keyboard markings on non-US keyboards, making for a confusing experience. I mistakenly assumed the physical layout, of say a French keyboard, would be similar on a Mac, as it is on a PC, but that is not the case apparently. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:41:02PM -0700, Justin Christopher wrote: > Ben, I think the point I'm trying to make is that even > if Apple is causing the problem, others have managed > to work around it. > > In any kind of computing project, sometimes you have > to "fix" things that you aren't responsible for. > > I write web pages. Half my day is spent working around > bugs created by browser manufacturers. Even though > those bugs aren't my problem, my pages have to > accomodate them. Why? Because the end user browsing my > pages doesn't care whether it's my fault or Netscape's > fault that the page doesn't work right. It becomes my > fault, and if I don't fix it, my users will find > another site that does. Yes but you can't fix what you can't reproduce. You're the only one who has reported this. Have you tried running a tcpdump from another machine on your network (or something like it ethereal would be easier). To see what exactly is going on? This might give you a hint as to why it's failing. Also, there are several different DHCP clients in the distribution. dhcpcd, dhcp-client, and pump. Have you tried all of them? Just rpm -e the one you're currently using and rpm -ivh the other one. Constantly complaining about a bug only you are having without providing information to help resolve it, especially when nobody else has the necessary hardware to replicate it isn't going to solve your issue. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Colin Ward wrote: CW> today. While it did give me a battery meter in the kicker it didn't CW> help the wakeing from sleep problem. Colin Interresting. I can't try a latest BenH right now. The iBook2 I have is the May 2001 version (500Mhz). -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
Henrik Edlund wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > > JC> Sleeping an iBook2 by closing the lid or using the > JC> 'snooze' command does not work. When you awaken the > JC> computer, it does not accept keyboard or mouse input. > JC> Colin Ward has the same problem so it's not just me. > > I had this working under 8.0 with a BenH kernel back in October last year. > Must have been 2.4.10 or something like that. > > As i said in a post earlier tonight, i tried the latest benh kernel today. While it did give me a battery meter in the kicker it didn't help the wakeing from sleep problem. Colin
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: JC> Sleeping an iBook2 by closing the lid or using the JC> 'snooze' command does not work. When you awaken the JC> computer, it does not accept keyboard or mouse input. JC> Colin Ward has the same problem so it's not just me. I had this working under 8.0 with a BenH kernel back in October last year. Must have been 2.4.10 or something like that. -- http://www.edlund.org/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
Ben, I think the point I'm trying to make is that even if Apple is causing the problem, others have managed to work around it. In any kind of computing project, sometimes you have to "fix" things that you aren't responsible for. I write web pages. Half my day is spent working around bugs created by browser manufacturers. Even though those bugs aren't my problem, my pages have to accomodate them. Why? Because the end user browsing my pages doesn't care whether it's my fault or Netscape's fault that the page doesn't work right. It becomes my fault, and if I don't fix it, my users will find another site that does. --- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No it's not a lame copout. The DHCP clients work > for everyone *BUT* > you (I'd say Airport users but I don't recall anyone > else having this > issue). These are the same daemons that x86 uses. > So if > there's a problem with them it would have been > discovered by now. So > that tells me Apple isn't following the standard in > some way. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
Thank you. We appreciate what you are doing as well. --- Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That said, I do appreciate any feedback that's given here. Sometime's the timing's not right to fully address the issue, but I do what I can. Stew Benedict __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > If Stew needs his own Airport stuff to make Airport > work, then perhaps his EMPLOYER should buy it for him. > I already offered to buy 1/10th of the Airport > equipment for Stew, and if I recall, there was 1 other taker. > Please let's not get hostile. I believe it's pretty well publicized that Mandrakesoft is not rolling in cash. As Ben mentioned the PPC user base is relatively small, so you're not going to see Mandrakesoft running out and buying a bunch of PPC hardware. We have attempted to get loaner hardware, and have gotten some, for brief periods of time, but nowhere near the kind of lab you really need to solidly support the platform. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:02:53PM -0700, Justin Christopher wrote: > Windows 2000, RedHat, Mac OS X, and Mac OS 9 clients > can retrieve IPs from my Apple Airport Basestation on > both wired and wireless interfaces. Mandrake PPC > cannot. To me, that means that there is a problem with > Mandrake, not with the Base Station. If other > operating systems have managed to connect to it, so > should Mandrake. Attempting to blame the problem on > "Apple's software bugs and hardware failures" is a > lame cop-out. There's nothing wrong with my > basestation. No it's not a lame copout. The DHCP clients work for everyone *BUT* you (I'd say Airport users but I don't recall anyone else having this issue). These are the same daemons that x86 uses. So if there's a problem with them it would have been discovered by now. So that tells me Apple isn't following the standard in some way. > The "internet connections to start at boot" problem > only occurs if getting IPs fails 9 or 10 lines higher > in the boot process. If you successfully get IPs you > will not see this problem. I'll be happy to get out > the digital camera if it will help you believe that > this problem exists. I believe that you're having the problem. I always setup my ethernet interface and my airport interface. Both fail the first time since: a) I don't plug in my ethernet interface at home, but I leave it turned on at boot. b) My airport (as you've already complained about) doesn't have the ESSID and the key set, so it can't get an address. Despite both of these interfaces failing to get a DHCP address I'm still unable to replicate your problem. So there is something more to this than just those two interfaces failing. > I'm not even going to elaborate on Gnome. It, and it's > various components crash all the time and you know it. > Others on this list have the same problem. Use it for > 5 minutes and something will crash, guaranteed. No I don't know it. If you can't elaborate it can't be fixed. > If Stew needs his own Airport stuff to make Airport > work, then perhaps his EMPLOYER should buy it for him. > I already offered to buy 1/10th of the Airport > equipment for Stew, and if I recall, there was 1 other taker. Please read the explanation of what the PPC port is to Mandrake that was given by the CEO in response to a thread I started. It's not a money making affair. It's a contribution to the community. And a rather large one at that. As far as your offer to buy him an Airport that's great. But obviously it's not a big enough issue for the rest of the users to find 8 more users to do it. -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > Modem on the iBook2/500 does not work. This is fixable > by tweaking the PPP modem timeout values. These values > are known, but this fix has not been applied to the > installer. Thus, even though the fix is known, the > installer still puts in PPP values that will not work. > OK - I'll see if I can do this in the installer, or patch kppp. > > Sleeping an iBook2 by closing the lid or using the > 'snooze' command does not work. When you awaken the > computer, it does not accept keyboard or mouse input. > Colin Ward has the same problem so it's not just me. > OK, so should I go buy an ibook2 so I can reproduce it? All I can really do is apply a patch, if you know of one. I also built the newest pmud and pointed Colin to it. > By default the CDROM drive cannot be opened by right > clicking (no permissions), nor by clicking the > keyboard eject key. I bet 90% of people who complete > the install process can't figure out how to put > another cd in to install more packages without a trip > to google. Frankly, in a modern GUI I don't feel I > should have to open a terminal and type "cd mnt/cdrom, > eject" to open a cd rom drive! > OK - verified. I guess I never thought to check this as there really isn't anything PPC specific about ejecting a CD, but in just trying it now in KDE, it just sits there. It's not a permissions issue, or you wouldn't be able to do it from a terminal either. It's a fairly well know bit of information that the Apple function keys in general don'tperform their functions in Linux without additional software such as ikeyd. > There is a known problem with selecting "do you want > to start the connection at boot" in the installer. > This is a huge bug, and you blew me off by saying "I'm > not familiar with this" despite the fact that I > provided you with an outline of steps to reproduce the > problem. > I didn't blow you off and in fact spent several hours last week trying to reproduce the scenario, and never did hit a screen asking me that question. It must only happen when setting up 2 interfaces. I saw a review of x86 that mentioned a similar situation, so indeed it does seem to exist. In the case of 2 interfaces, it sort of makes sense to ask, as you wouldn't eant to start both up, unless they are connected to different subnets. > If the user says "yes" to "Do you want to start this > connection at boot?" a line shows up in the boot > process called "checking for internet connections to > start at boot". This line appears after "getting IP > info for eth0" and "getting IP info for eth1". If > getting IPs fails, the boot process will hang on the > "checking for internet connections to start at boot" > line forever. > > To my knowledge that problem has not been addressed, > despite the fact that it can easily cause a newbie to > end up with an unbootable system. > > Gnome is so unstable I would not call it usable. I do > not experience this problem on x86, so something else > is wrong. > Gnome in general or the control-center/bononbo-moniker issue? I haven't seen any other crashes in gnome. > It's my opinion that a PPC-specific distribution > should offer to configure an Apple Airport card during > the install. They are all the same, there is only one > driver - there should be a prompt for network name, > encryption key, password, and whatever else is needed > to connect. > OK, I agree it woould be a nice feature, but at some point you have to stop adding features and say this iteration is done, or you'll never finish. I already have people upset that we don't have gnome2 or kernel-2.4.x. > In the installer, why should the user have to choose > between OHCI and UHCI USB interfaces? I only know I > have USB, I don't even know what those are? At this > point in the installer, you have already autodetected > my USB mouse, so shouldn't the installer know what to > load? > This question isn't asked at all in recommended install. If you choose expert install a lot of additional questions are posed. > Finally, I still feel strongly that DHCP should be > able to retrieve IPs from an Apple Airport base > station after the default install (especially on a > Mac-specific distribution) although I understand your > position about not worrying too much about a specific > piece of hardware. > I'd love this to work too. I really don't like to have unhappy users, but I can't afford to go out and secure each piece of hardware to do hardware testing. dhcp is general does work, I know that for a fact as I use it every day. > When I installed RedHat 7.2 on a Dell Inspiron, > everything worked flawlessly with no post-install > tweaking. I would like to see PPC reach that level > (especially since there are only a couple hardware > types to support, it would seem to be possible). But > it is not there yet. > I guess we see things through different eyes. I know Linux on PPC is not fully there yet. I'm trying to do
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
By "right clicking to eject cd" I mean that in KDE, if you right click on the CDROM, there is an option for "eject" or "unmount" (I forget which). When you click it, it doesn't work because you don't have permission. Windows 2000, RedHat, Mac OS X, and Mac OS 9 clients can retrieve IPs from my Apple Airport Basestation on both wired and wireless interfaces. Mandrake PPC cannot. To me, that means that there is a problem with Mandrake, not with the Base Station. If other operating systems have managed to connect to it, so should Mandrake. Attempting to blame the problem on "Apple's software bugs and hardware failures" is a lame cop-out. There's nothing wrong with my basestation. The "internet connections to start at boot" problem only occurs if getting IPs fails 9 or 10 lines higher in the boot process. If you successfully get IPs you will not see this problem. I'll be happy to get out the digital camera if it will help you believe that this problem exists. I'm not even going to elaborate on Gnome. It, and it's various components crash all the time and you know it. Others on this list have the same problem. Use it for 5 minutes and something will crash, guaranteed. If Stew needs his own Airport stuff to make Airport work, then perhaps his EMPLOYER should buy it for him. I already offered to buy 1/10th of the Airport equipment for Stew, and if I recall, there was 1 other taker. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
Before I get into specifics of a number of the items you bring up. You should realize that this is a port of the x86 Mandrake not an entirely different PPC distribution. As a result only changes from x86 that are absolutely necessary are made. On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 11:31:43AM -0700, Justin Christopher wrote: > Modem on the iBook2/500 does not work. This is fixable > by tweaking the PPP modem timeout values. These values > are known, but this fix has not been applied to the > installer. Thus, even though the fix is known, the > installer still puts in PPP values that will not work. > Sleeping an iBook2 by closing the lid or using the > 'snooze' command does not work. When you awaken the > computer, it does not accept keyboard or mouse input. > Colin Ward has the same problem so it's not just me. Yes and it's a little too late to change the installer now. 8.2/ppc tracks with the 8.2/x86 installer. 8.2/x86 is done. No more changes to the 8.2/SRPMS can really be done. If Stew does change anything from the x86 SRPMS he has to do a dot release and hang on to the SRPMS since they won't show on the mirrors so that security updates are possible to do in the future. This once again has to do with the fact that PPC does not have a separate source base. > By default the CDROM drive cannot be opened by right > clicking (no permissions), nor by clicking the > keyboard eject key. I bet 90% of people who complete > the install process can't figure out how to put > another cd in to install more packages without a trip > to google. Frankly, in a modern GUI I don't feel I > should have to open a terminal and type "cd mnt/cdrom, > eject" to open a cd rom drive! I have no idea what you mean by right clicking to open the CDROM drive. Not all Macs have that keyboard eject key. And the ikeyd supposedly is only for iBook 2001's. So no PPC distribution can support keyboard ejects by default for everyone. > There is a known problem with selecting "do you want > to start the connection at boot" in the installer. > This is a huge bug, and you blew me off by saying "I'm > not familiar with this" despite the fact that I > provided you with an outline of steps to reproduce the > problem. > > If the user says "yes" to "Do you want to start this > connection at boot?" a line shows up in the boot > process called "checking for internet connections to > start at boot". This line appears after "getting IP > info for eth0" and "getting IP info for eth1". If > getting IPs fails, the boot process will hang on the > "checking for internet connections to start at boot" > line forever. I always say yes to that option and I've never had the hang. So there's more to it than what you've given. So in short no you haven't given us reproduction instructions because the problem hasn't been reproduced to my knowledge. > Gnome is so unstable I would not call it usable. I do > not experience this problem on x86, so something else > is wrong. Unstable how? What are you doing when it crashes? straces? logs? What? > It's my opinion that a PPC-specific distribution > should offer to configure an Apple Airport card during > the install. They are all the same, there is only one > driver - there should be a prompt for network name, > encryption key, password, and whatever else is needed > to connect. This is another PPC specific change to the installer that is just too late to make. Perhaps in the next version when x86 has better support for 802.11 cards in the first place this should be easy to implement. > In the installer, why should the user have to choose > between OHCI and UHCI USB interfaces? I only know I > have USB, I don't even know what those are? At this > point in the installer, you have already autodetected > my USB mouse, so shouldn't the installer know what to > load? The installer says to me "Hey I see you have this, do you have another USB controller?" Seems to be it already knows what I have. > Finally, I still feel strongly that DHCP should be > able to retrieve IPs from an Apple Airport base > station after the default install (especially on a > Mac-specific distribution) although I understand your > position about not worrying too much about a specific > piece of hardware. If it's not working with an Apple Airport then it's a problem with the Airport base station not with the DHCP clients in the distribution. The Airport Base Stations have been plauged by software bugs and hardware failures from day one. A friend of mine has had Apple replace his twice due to hardware failures, with the tech admitting that this is common. Stew isn't a DHCP expert. He produces a distribution. And without an Airport himself it's difficult for him to diagnose your problem. So unless you: a) Diagnose the problem and produce a patch or b) Provide Stew the hardware to do that for you. your problem probably won't get fixed. > When I installed RedHat 7.2 on a Dell Inspiron, > everything worked flawlessly with no post-in
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:57:34PM -0400, Quentin Mason wrote: > http://linuxppc.jvc.nl/RPMS/pmud-0.10-1.ppc.rpm > It also has a sourceforge page now. It may not work perfectly with a > brand new ibook2, but is great for Wallstreet/Lombard/ibook. Best > combined with gkrellm-pmu IMHO. Have you tried typing "snooze" into a > terminal ? The older pmud's had a problem waking up after having a CDROM > mounted but that should have been fixed with wakebay. Pmud tends to work > best with BenH kernels -- there is an option in .config to enable support > for it. It used to need the loopback net device which is why it sometimes > fails on boot if you have not ifup-ed the network; I am not sure whethre > this is still the case. What does it say when you try and start it with > debug, no detach "pmud -d" on the terminal and in /var/log/messages ? The pmud that is in Mandake 8.2 beta2 PPC should work just fine with his ibook2. I don't see the point of telling people to install other distributions RPMS when we are trying to test... At any rate the pmud rpm will be on his CD or he can find it here: http://mirror.brain.org/linux/mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/pmud-0.7.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm -- Ben Reser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
Another comment (okay, I'm pushing it today...) I don't really know why you decided to use PC keyboard maps for 8.2 - probably a lot of users will use MacOS as well as Linux, and I think it's kind of awkward to have to get used to different keyboard maps in between sessions. Anyhow, at least there should be an easy option, either in the installer or in the Control Center, to change to a Mac keyboard map. If that is not possible, I think lots of people will be less than happy with an OS where you the keyboard layout doesn't match the keyboard and CDs can only be inserted by tiping command lines in the console. Johanna Stew Benedict wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > > >>This is not a slam in any way, but I think even Stew >>has indicated that 8.2Beta 2 is very close to what >>they'll be releasing as final. >> >>Problems like her printer not getting picked up will >>still be there because the functionality of the >>installer is not going to change between now and >>final. At best, packages which have newer versions >>between now and final might be included. >> >> > > I have addressed the printer setup during install. I was out of sync with > the latest printer changes in drakx. > > >>IMO it's not nearly ready for a final release because >>of the many problems, but I think others don't feel >>that way (and of course, it's not my decision anyway). >> >> > > I guess I'm not aware of the many problems. I believe I've addressed most > everything reported here on the list. > > Stew Benedict > >
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
Modem on the iBook2/500 does not work. This is fixable by tweaking the PPP modem timeout values. These values are known, but this fix has not been applied to the installer. Thus, even though the fix is known, the installer still puts in PPP values that will not work. Sleeping an iBook2 by closing the lid or using the 'snooze' command does not work. When you awaken the computer, it does not accept keyboard or mouse input. Colin Ward has the same problem so it's not just me. By default the CDROM drive cannot be opened by right clicking (no permissions), nor by clicking the keyboard eject key. I bet 90% of people who complete the install process can't figure out how to put another cd in to install more packages without a trip to google. Frankly, in a modern GUI I don't feel I should have to open a terminal and type "cd mnt/cdrom, eject" to open a cd rom drive! There is a known problem with selecting "do you want to start the connection at boot" in the installer. This is a huge bug, and you blew me off by saying "I'm not familiar with this" despite the fact that I provided you with an outline of steps to reproduce the problem. If the user says "yes" to "Do you want to start this connection at boot?" a line shows up in the boot process called "checking for internet connections to start at boot". This line appears after "getting IP info for eth0" and "getting IP info for eth1". If getting IPs fails, the boot process will hang on the "checking for internet connections to start at boot" line forever. To my knowledge that problem has not been addressed, despite the fact that it can easily cause a newbie to end up with an unbootable system. Gnome is so unstable I would not call it usable. I do not experience this problem on x86, so something else is wrong. It's my opinion that a PPC-specific distribution should offer to configure an Apple Airport card during the install. They are all the same, there is only one driver - there should be a prompt for network name, encryption key, password, and whatever else is needed to connect. In the installer, why should the user have to choose between OHCI and UHCI USB interfaces? I only know I have USB, I don't even know what those are? At this point in the installer, you have already autodetected my USB mouse, so shouldn't the installer know what to load? Finally, I still feel strongly that DHCP should be able to retrieve IPs from an Apple Airport base station after the default install (especially on a Mac-specific distribution) although I understand your position about not worrying too much about a specific piece of hardware. Please understand that none of this is a commentary specifically on you, Stew. I don't understand how you manage to get so much done by yourself. (The fact that you're reading the list on a Sunday speaks for itself). But it's also clear to me that Mandrake has pretty much shown their opinion of PPC by not giving you help in the form of employees or the hardware you need. When I installed RedHat 7.2 on a Dell Inspiron, everything worked flawlessly with no post-install tweaking. I would like to see PPC reach that level (especially since there are only a couple hardware types to support, it would seem to be possible). But it is not there yet. > I guess I'm not aware of the many problems. I > believe I've addressed most > everything reported here on the list. > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > PPC FAQ: > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
> This is not a slam in any way, but I think even Stew > has indicated that 8.2Beta 2 is very close to what > they'll be releasing as final. > > Problems like her printer not getting picked up will > still be there because the functionality of the > installer is not going to change between now and > final. At best, packages which have newer versions > between now and final might be included. > > IMO it's not nearly ready for a final release because > of the many problems, but I think others don't feel > that way (and of course, it's not my decision anyway). I agree. Probably most of the problems I mentioned can be fixed, but really, many of us don't want to open their shell and type two command lines just in order to open their CD drives. Some things worked just fine, but others don't at all. I could select and install my printer, but unfortunately it won't print - Linux says it's printing, printer status is fine, but no printed page comes out. None of the documentation gives me any hint on what to do if the proper procedure fails to work. I tried to follow Sylvains HowTo on changing the keymap. Unfortunately, the mac keymaps are unpacked (.gz), I couldn't unpack them as a normal user, tried to do so as root, the whole system crashed and now even won't start up again. Okay, probably I did everything wrong, but will the average Mandrake user know better than myself how to deal with stuff like this? I don't think so. I spent the whole day on this and didn't make any substantial progress. Then the annoying thing with the cursor jumping around, of which I don't have ANY idea on how to change it... Installation is fine, internet is fine, but everything else is just a mess, at least for me - and unless I'm mistaken, Mandrake is supposed to be made for people like me?!? Others may as well use Debian. :-) Johanna > > > The substantial changes I'm hoping for won't be made > until 8.3 or 9 or whatever the next Mandrake PPC > release is (if there ever is one.) > > > >>Remember this is only a beta, most things should be >>fixed when the final >>comes out. ... >>Colin >> > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > >
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > This is not a slam in any way, but I think even Stew > has indicated that 8.2Beta 2 is very close to what > they'll be releasing as final. > > Problems like her printer not getting picked up will > still be there because the functionality of the > installer is not going to change between now and > final. At best, packages which have newer versions > between now and final might be included. > I have addressed the printer setup during install. I was out of sync with the latest printer changes in drakx. > IMO it's not nearly ready for a final release because > of the many problems, but I think others don't feel > that way (and of course, it's not my decision anyway). > I guess I'm not aware of the many problems. I believe I've addressed most everything reported here on the list. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
This is not a slam in any way, but I think even Stew has indicated that 8.2Beta 2 is very close to what they'll be releasing as final. Problems like her printer not getting picked up will still be there because the functionality of the installer is not going to change between now and final. At best, packages which have newer versions between now and final might be included. IMO it's not nearly ready for a final release because of the many problems, but I think others don't feel that way (and of course, it's not my decision anyway). The substantial changes I'm hoping for won't be made until 8.3 or 9 or whatever the next Mandrake PPC release is (if there ever is one.) > Remember this is only a beta, most things should be > fixed when the final > comes out. ... > Colin __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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> > What about Lyx/Latex? Aren't they supposed to be installed? What package > > do I have to chose in order to get them? I chose the scientific one, > > office etc. but Lyx/Latex don't seem to have been installed. Get tetex-* for LaTeX. I am not sure where they are in an install, but those are the ones that provide xdvi, latex, pdflatex, dvips, etc. You may also find a2ps, mpage and psutils useful. Others are gv, acroread, ggv [gnome-gv] and kdegraphics [provides kghostview]. Auctex is a great emacs LaTeX mode addition, and you should check out preview-latex [at sourceforge] for something similar to lyx. > As for power management, i can't get it working properly yet.(i can only > get suspend) I am testing the latest pmud, but it needs some work. > Don't worry about any referance to APM, thats for i386. http://linuxppc.jvc.nl/RPMS/pmud-0.10-1.ppc.rpm It also has a sourceforge page now. It may not work perfectly with a brand new ibook2, but is great for Wallstreet/Lombard/ibook. Best combined with gkrellm-pmu IMHO. Have you tried typing "snooze" into a terminal ? The older pmud's had a problem waking up after having a CDROM mounted but that should have been fixed with wakebay. Pmud tends to work best with BenH kernels -- there is an option in .config to enable support for it. It used to need the loopback net device which is why it sometimes fails on boot if you have not ifup-ed the network; I am not sure whethre this is still the case. What does it say when you try and start it with debug, no detach "pmud -d" on the terminal and in /var/log/messages ? Q.
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
Johanna wrote: > Okay, this is my preliminary report on the new beta. I would appreciate > any kind of help on the issues mentioned below, because at some points > I'm really at a loss. This is my first experience with Linux, and I'm no > good at troubleshooting - I was kind of hoping for a system that would > more or less work at least with the basic things, but up to now Mandrake > only very partially does. > > I've installed Mandrake on my iBook 2 (600 Mhz, internal CD-RW). > Installation went quite smooth, though - from a newbie point of view - > some things aren't really self-explanatory. For example, I had the > choice between German keyboard with or without "death"/Tod keys - what > on earth ARE those? > > One thing that really impressed me was how quick and easy my > DSL-connection was established and is now established after every startup. > > Still, after having installed the whole thing, I'm less than happy with > it (I ought to add that I'm not the kind of person who goes and installs > an new kernel just like that). The main problem is the keyboard mapping. > All the available mappings are for PC. The alt key is not recognized, > and neither are the signs it normally produces - meaning I couldn't find > out how to type an @-sign. How can it be that a Linux distribution made > specifically for PPC doesn't know Mac keyboards? Anyway, I haven't found > out how to write an E-mail-Adress up to now :-( > > Another thing I couldn't find out was how to make my CD-RW drive open. > Normally, I use the F12 key to do that. Unfortunately, the drive doesn't > react to this. So, can't I read CDs or what? > > I tried to configure power management, but got the answer that apm > kernel drivers aren't installed. Hmmm... so what do I do? > > My wheel mouse was detected fine, and sound is working. > > Mozilla wouldn't start up. I used Konqueror, but found that it behaved > rather strangely sometimes (the cursor would always jump away from the > input line, even if I didn't touch the mouse at all). Anyway, it > basically worked. > > What about Lyx/Latex? Aren't they supposed to be installed? What package > do I have to chose in order to get them? I chose the scientific one, > office etc. but Lyx/Latex don't seem to have been installed. > My printer (lexmark Z42) wasn't detected - I suppose I will have to get > a driver. > > That's all for now :-) All in all, I like Mandrake, but desperately need > to get this keyboard problem fixed in order to use it. > > Johanna > > > > ok, i can answer some of your questions, but not all. I also have an ibook (500,384MB, 10GB,CDRW) and am also pretty new (to linux, not macs). First of all i don't know anything about german keybored, but you should be able to get the @ sighn using the quotation mark key (with shift). i know there was talk of mac-keymapping, but i haven't had to use it myself. You can go into the KDE control panel and change the keybored. As for opening the CDROM try, i use the eject command in the terminal. At the promt do 'cd /mnt/cdrom' then 'eject' As for mozilla, i can only get it to start-up if i open mozilla mail, then open in up from there. It must be some bug in KDE, because it opens fine in gnome, but gnome is to buggy to use properly. As for those other apps you talk about, go into the software manager. There are 2 tabs there (amongst other things) that say 'installed' and 'instalable'. You should be able to work out there what you have installed and what you can install. My HP 840c deskjet printer works fine. It wasn't detected though and i had to manuly tell the 'control center' what printer i had and what interface it was using. If its a USB printer, it should be dev/usb/lp0. I use the USB plug thats next to the firewire port. The other has my USB Speed touch pro in it( this also works very well). As for power management, i can't get it working properly yet.(i can only get suspend) I am testing the latest pmud, but it needs some work. Don't worry about any referance to APM, thats for i386. Remember this is only a beta, most things should be fixed when the final comes out. You seem to be doing pretty well for a newbie though. I've found a lot of this is trial and error stuff. Its probley the best way to learn. good luck Colin
Re: 8.2 beta report - several problems
On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Johanna wrote: > Okay, this is my preliminary report on the new beta. I would appreciate > any kind of help on the issues mentioned below, because at some points > I'm really at a loss. This is my first experience with Linux, and I'm no > good at troubleshooting - I was kind of hoping for a system that would > more or less work at least with the basic things, but up to now Mandrake > only very partially does. > > I've installed Mandrake on my iBook 2 (600 Mhz, internal CD-RW). > Installation went quite smooth, though - from a newbie point of view - > some things aren't really self-explanatory. For example, I had the > choice between German keyboard with or without "death"/Tod keys - what > on earth ARE those? > Non-US keyboard mapping still leave a bit to be desired. If you check the list archives, there's a howto on how to go back to Mac kepmaps, which may work better for you. > One thing that really impressed me was how quick and easy my > DSL-connection was established and is now established after every startup. > > Still, after having installed the whole thing, I'm less than happy with > it (I ought to add that I'm not the kind of person who goes and installs > an new kernel just like that). The main problem is the keyboard mapping. > All the available mappings are for PC. The alt key is not recognized, > and neither are the signs it normally produces - meaning I couldn't find > out how to type an @-sign. How can it be that a Linux distribution made > specifically for PPC doesn't know Mac keyboards? Anyway, I haven't found > out how to write an E-mail-Adress up to now :-( > AltGr is the "Apple" key. Compose is Shift-Apple. > Another thing I couldn't find out was how to make my CD-RW drive open. > Normally, I use the F12 key to do that. Unfortunately, the drive doesn't > react to this. So, can't I read CDs or what? > Try the command "eject". ikeyd may enable your eject button, but if you're using F12 for mouse button emulatin, you may need to remap to another button. > I tried to configure power management, but got the answer that apm > kernel drivers aren't installed. Hmmm... so what do I do? > PC style power management is not what you want. pmud is the PPC power management daemon. > My wheel mouse was detected fine, and sound is working. > > Mozilla wouldn't start up. I used Konqueror, but found that it behaved > rather strangely sometimes (the cursor would always jump away from the > input line, even if I didn't touch the mouse at all). Anyway, it > basically worked. > Haven't seen any other reports of mozilla problems. Start it from an xterm and see what errors are generated. > What about Lyx/Latex? Aren't they supposed to be installed? What package > do I have to chose in order to get them? I chose the scientific one, > office etc. but Lyx/Latex don't seem to have been installed. > You can always install additional packages from the CDs. > My printer (lexmark Z42) wasn't detected - I suppose I will have to get > a driver. > I don't know about this one. Don't have that hardware. > That's all for now :-) All in all, I like Mandrake, but desperately need > to get this keyboard problem fixed in order to use it. > Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: 8.2 Beta 2 report / iBook2 - bad news
Stew, The problem occurs when you respond "yes" to the question "Do you want to start the connection at boot?" in the installer. This question pops up right after it asks you about static or DHCP on the interfaces it found. (at least it does on the 'expert' install). If you reinstall, and choose "no" instead, then it will work. (Except obviously you'll have no connectivity). The problem of not getting IPs from an Apple base station can be worked around, and seems to be a bug with that specific piece of hardware. That I can understand, and deal with. But the hang if the user responds "incorrectly" seems pretty bad. --- Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Justin Christopher wrote: > > > Well, bad news. > > > > Today I burned the isos for Beta 2 and installed > on my > > iBook2 when I got home. > > > > I chose expert install. Everything seemed to go > fine. > > The bug involving the installer not seeing cd #2 > is > > fixed. > > > > It found my built in ethernet and offered to > configure > > it. I choose DHCP. It said "do you have another?". > I > > said yes, and told it "Apple Airport driver". I > offers > > me the same IP config information, I choose yes. > Do > > you want to start these at boot? "yes". > > > > The installer prompts me to remove the installer > cd > > and reboot, I do so. The bootloader works fine, > and > > things start loading up. > > > > Getting an IP on eth0 and eth1 both fail. Don't > know > > why. Windows and Mac OS X clients can get IPs from > my > > Airport Base station over either the wired or > 802.11b > > interface flawlessly. > > > > A few more lines go by, and then up comes > "checking > > for internet connections to start at boot". It > just > > sits there with a flashing cursor and never > continues. > > 45 minutes so far, and I suspect, like the last > > version, it will stay like that forever. > > > > This is very disappointing: > > > > 1. There is still some issue that prevent Mandrake > > from getting DHCP info from an Apple base station. > > > > 2. I can accept the fact that getting IPs failed, > but > > for it to hang forever trying to start nonexistant > > connections is dumb. This line HAS to have a > timeout. > > > > As for a Linux for PPC that has working > networking, > > modem, sound, airport on this computer, I will > keep > > looking :( > > > > I guess I'm a little confused on why you folks want > to bring up both > interfaces. Are you tying to 2 different subnets > with airport and the > wired interface? > > I use dhcpd for my whole network here. Saying > things are broken because > you have trouble with 1 specific piece of Apple > hardware is a little > unfair. > > The other infinite timeout I've yet to see. Is > there some other option > you're choosing besides dhcp that adds in this other > startup option? I > never see any "checking for internet connections to > start at boot". My > dhcpd server provides the client machines with > everything they need to > connect to the internet. There is no other > connection that needs to be > started. > > Stew Benedict > > -- > MandrakeSoft > PPC FAQ: > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/
