[CTRL] **NBC airs Broaddrick interview tomorrow at 8:ET*

[Edward Britton]

 -Caveat Lector-

x x x x x
http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm


NBC WARMS UP 'JANE DOE' INTERVIEW; TIM
RUSSERT PHYSICALLY SICK AFTER WATCHING
BROADDRICK TAPES

**Exclusive**

NBC NEWS has taken its interview with Jane
Doe #5 out of the freezer -- and has put it
into the oven!

On Wednesday night at 8 pm ET [Family Hour?]
NBC NEWS will broadcast an exclusive
television interview with Juanita
Broaddrick, a woman who has accused Bill
Clinton of rape.

"This was the hardest day of my life since I
lost my father in '71," Broaddrick told a
producer from NBC NEWS after her five hour
interview.

The interview was scheduled to air on Jan.
29, at the height of the impeachment trial
in the Senate, but it hit resistance from
NBC NEWS executives.

One month later, NBC NEWS has announced that
it will now air that interview -- an
interview that made one NBC NEWS superstar
physically sick after he watched it!

The DRUDGE REPORT has learned that NBC NEWS
Washington Bureau chief Tim Russert got sick
to his stomach when he viewed the five hour
session between NBC NEWS reporter Lisa Myers
and Broaddrick.

Russert told associates that Broaddrick's
story left him speechless and upset him
physically after he viewed raw tapes of the
interview.

Broaddrick tells NBC NEWS, in graphic
detail, how Bill Clinton raped her back in
1978.

Broaddrick had denied under oath that such
an assault occurred.

Clinton lawyer David Kendall issued a denial
last week.

"Any allegation that the president assaulted
Mrs. Broaddrick more than 20 years ago is
absolutely false," Kendall said.

"NBC is just trying to compete with the
GRAMMY AWARDS," one White House source told
the DRUDGE REPORT on Tuesday afternoon.

"This is a sweeps stunt!" charged another
Clinton supporter.

NBC NEWS reporter Lisa Myers was en route to
New York from Washington late Tuesday night,
according to network sources.

Myers will anchor her Broaddrick story
in-studio for DATELINE.

A source close to Broaddrick on Tuesday
evening questioned if NBC NEWS has edited
out the most dramatic moments of the
interview.

"Juanita was told that she could view the
finished product," explained the Broaddrick
confidant.

"They've never shown it to her. We don't
want it to be all on the editing floor with
fill ins."

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[CTRL] Hubbell The Key To Clinton Corruption

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  forwarded message 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (CharlesSmith)
 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999
 Subj: WND - Hubbell The Key To Corruption

 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/
 19990223_xcsof_hubbell_ke.shtml

   "Clinton gave the PLA military grade secure communications
   while secretly working to keep the same secure communications
   from the American public.  Chinese Generals now communicate
   with complete security, locking out U.S. military intelligence
   monitoring, thanks to Bill Clinton.
   The Clinton policy is far more than a paradox.  It clearly
   shows that Bill Clinton trusts Chinese communist Generals
   more than any American citizen."

   "The attempt by the PLA [Chinese military] to obtain secret
   access to DEA phones clearly illustrates the close knit
   intelligence/crime syndicate operating inside the White House.
   One does not need much imagination to wonder why drug lords
   such as DNC- donor Ng Lapseng would want to monitor the DEA.
   DEA agents and all Americans, however, can take no solace
   in Ms. [Janet] Reno's reluctance to look into the penetration
   of their phones by agents of the Chinese Army.  They need look
   no farther than the photo of drug lord Ng with Bill and Hillary
   Clinton to wonder why."


 Hubbell The Key To Corruption

 The direct link between Beijing espionage, millionaire drug
 lords and Bill Clinton is Webster Hubbell.  In 1993, Webster
 Hubbell was personally charged by Janet Reno with a Top Secret
 project to tap every phone in America.  Hubbell's initial task
 was to tap every phone in the U.S. government, starting with the
 Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).

 In February 1999, the Dept. of Justice was forced by the Freedom
 of Information Act (FOIA) to release the Hubbell files.
 According to the Dept. of Justice, many of the Hubbell documents
 are being withheld for "national security" reasons.  In
 addition, "fifteen" Hubbell documents remain in the hands of the
 FBI and NSA to be reviewed prior to any release.

 According to the NSA, FBI and NSC, the Hubbell files are so
 sensitive that to release them today may result in charges of
 treason and the death penalty.  The newly released Hubbell files
 are so secret that even the code word classification level was
 blacked out for "national security" reasons by the National
 Security Agency (NSA), FBI, and National Security Council (NSC).

 Furthermore, the Dept. of Justice was forced to admit that a
 1993 letter from AT&T CEO Robert Allen to Hubbell was "destroyed
 pursuant to the records destruction schedules."  This in itself
 is highly suspect because this author has obtained documents
 dating as far back as 1983 that were returned by the National
 Security Council (NSC) - over 10 years prior to the "destroyed"
 AT&T Hubbell letter.

 One document released by the Justice Dept. is a March 1993
 Justice Dept. memo from Stephen Colgate, Assistant Attorney
 General for Administration.  Colgate's memo to Hubbell details
 the Clinton officials charged with bugging every phone in
 America.

 According to the Colgate memo, Vice President Al Gore was to
 chair a meeting with Hubbell, Reno, Commerce Secretary Ron
 Brown, and Leon Panetta in March 1993.  The meeting was on the
 "AT&T Telephone Security Device".

 In 1992, AT&T had developed secure telephones the U.S.
 government could not tap.  The Clinton administration secretly
 contracted with AT&T to keep the phones off the American market.
 According to Colgate, the secure phones were simply too
 dangerous for American citizens.

 Assistant Attorney General Colgate wrote to Hubbell "AT&T has
 developed a Data Encryption Standard (DES) product for use on
 telephones to provide security for sensitive conversations.  The
 FBI, NSA and NSC want to purchase the first production run of
 these devices to prevent their proliferation.  They are
 difficult to decipher and are a deterrent to wiretaps."

 In 1993, Webster Hubbell was personally tasked with the project
 by Reno and Clinton.  Hubbell arranged for the entire production
 run of secure AT&T phones to be secretly purchased by the Dept.
 of Justice, using a slush fund supplied by confiscations from
 the "drug war" to keep the buy off the general books.

 Part of the secret project included re-fitting the purchased
 AT&T phones with a new chip called "Clipper" developed by the
 NSA at Ft. Meade, Maryland.  This chip contained a secret
 "exploitable" feature allowing the government to tap the phone
 conversation with a special back door key.

 The project also included plans to "mandate" the Clipper chip be
 installed in all American telephones.  According to the March
 1993 Colgate memo to Hubbell, "FBI, NSA and NSC want to push
 legislation which would require all government agencies and
 eventually everyone in the U.S. to use a new public-key based
 cryptography method."

 The re-fitted Clipper phones were to be given to the DEA for
 their line agents to u

[CTRL] Privacy Hack on Pentium III

[Bill Kingsbury]

 -Caveat Lector-

 Privacy Hack on Pentium III

 by Leander Kahney

 A German computer magazine claims to have found a way to
 hack the controversial serial number in the forthcoming
 Pentium III chip.

 Computer Technology, or c't, says that contrary to Intel's
 claims, the identifying Processor serial number in the
 Pentium III can be secretly turned on and off without the
 user's knowledge by a small software program.

 Intel included the number in the chip to provide a secure
 identifier for e-commerce and help system administrators
 keep track of large networks.

 Read the whole story at:

 http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/18078.html

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Re: [CTRL] WHY REPTILES EAT Melatonin

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 At 05:00 PM 2-22-1999 +, Andrew Hennessey wrote:
 >
 >Dear Teol000 - can you supply the Reference ?? please :)
 >
 >> I believe that Gardner in one of his books, talks about the
 >> importance of Melatonin to the "bloodline", and it's
 >> relationship to immortality or some such, since it seems to
 >> govern our body rhythms and internal clock.  Melanin is the
 >> pigment of the skin.  It seems that Melatonin may have a
 >> connection to all of this Reptile business.
 >
 >Thanx
 >
 >Andrew Hennessey
 >Transformation Studies Group
 >Edinburgh  Scotland
 >
 >ps melatonin makes lizards and amphibians lighter in colour.
 >melanin is the name of the pigment controlled by the
 > melatonin hormone


 Andrew - check these out:

 ... editors state gardner's book, 'Genesis of the Grail Kings'
 will be coming out in February 1999 ...


 STAR FIRE - The Gold of the Gods - Parts 1, 2, 3
 by Sir Laurence Gardner
   http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/starfire.html
   http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/starfire2.html
   http://www.peg.apc.org/~nexus/starfire3.html


 THE BLOODLINE, STARFIRE & THE ANUNNAKI
 (predates, and is similar to, the above)
 Lecture by Laurence Gardner, April 1998
   http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/2301/starfire.html


 Correspondence should be addressed to
 Sir Laurence Gardner, Kt St Gm, KCD, c/- Element Books,
 Shaftesbury, Dorset, SP7 8DP, United Kingdom



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 with the destruction of the truth."

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   speech at the University of Connecticut

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[CTRL] Bill and St. Peter

[T Nohava]

Clinton died and went to heaven -- or to be more accurate 
--approachedthe gates. After knocking at the gates, St. Peter appeared. 
"Who goesthere?" inquired St. Peter. "It's me, Bill 
Clinton" "And what do you want?" asked St. Peter. "Lemme 
in!" replied Clinton. "S," pondered Peter. "What bad 
things did you do on earth?" Clinton thought a bit and answered, 
"Well, I smoked marijuana but youshouldn't hold that against me because 
I didn't inhale. I guess I hadextra-marital sex -- but you shouldn't hold 
that against me because Ididn't really have 'sexual relations.' And I lied, 
but I didn't commitperjury." After several moments of deliberation 
St. Peter replied, "OK, here's thedeal. We'll send you someplace 
where it is very hot, but we won't call it'Hell.' You'll be there for an 
indefinite period of time, but we won'tcall it 'eternity.' And don't 
'abandon all hope' upon entering, just don't hold your breathwaiting for it 
to freeze over."

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges

[kimberly smith]

 -Caveat Lector-

Hey, does this mean if a friend got a DUI in your car, it would be siezed? Is this

Constitutional??? Snoowl don't you live in NY ?  What's going on?
Sincerely Barley

Kris Millegan wrote:

>   
>
> Subject: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges
> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:14:11 EST
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> NYC Seizes Cars in DWI Crackdown
>
> NEW YORK (AP) -- A city crackdown on drunken drivers began with the seizure of
> at least two cars.
>
> New York is the first municipality in the nation to seize the vehicles of
> motorists arrested on drunken driving charges as a way to reduce the number of
> deaths on roadways.
>
> Motorists with a blood alcohol level of 0.10 percent -- the state's legal
> limit for driving -- or higher will have their vehicles seized on the spot.
> While the motorist faces prosecution in criminal court, the vehicle seizure
> will be part of a separate proceeding in civil court under state forfeiture
> laws.
>
> And because civil proceedings require only a preponderance of evidence for a
> verdict -- rather than guilt beyond a reasonable doubt -- motorists acquitted
> of drunken driving in criminal court may still lose their cars in civil court.
>
> Civil libertarians have attacked the new policy as excessive and vowed to
> challenge it in court. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said he is confident the plan
> will hold up in court.
>
> One car was seized Sunday and one today. Officer Theresa Farello, a police
> department spokeswoman, could not immediately explain why a car was seized
> Sunday evening, 1 1/2 hours before the program was to start at midnight.

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[CTRL] Fw: (earthclan) Fw: US SABOTAGES biosafety protocol (with help from a few friends) (fwd)

[Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard]

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-Original Message-
From: Branfionn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Earthclan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 7:39 PM
Subject: (earthclan) Fw: US SABOTAGES biosafety protocol (with help from a
few friends) (fwd)


>
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>- Original Message -
>From: Liath Mactire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Branfionn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:41 AM
>Subject: US SABOTAGES biosafety protocol (with help from a few friends)
>(fwd)
>
>
>>
>>
>>-- Forwarded message --
>>Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:19:46 -0800 (PST)
>>From: MichaelP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "unlikely.suspects":  ;
>>Subject: US SABOTAGES biosafety protocol (with help from a few friends)
>>
>>
>>By Jeremy Lennard in Bogota
>> Guardian (London)Tuesday February 23, 1999
>>
>>A treaty among 170 countries to ensure safe trade in genetically modified
>>organisms has been sabotaged by the United States, which believes its
>>business interests are threatened.
>>
>>The US has refused to allow commodities like soya bean and corn, which
>>account for 90 per cent of the world trade in GMOs, to be included in the
>>negotiations. If they were included they would need to be clearly labelled
>>when being traded between countries, something the Americans are anxious
>>to avoid because it could lead to their products being boycotted.
>>
>>The US action came only 24 hours before a deadline for the biosafety
>>negotiations in Cartagena to be completed. The US refused to bow to
>>pressure from the vast majority of the 170 countries present, who called
>>for a cautious approach to the international trade.
>>
>>It is likely that a protocol will still be signed, but after working
>>groups failed last week to produce a consensus on a paper for the final
>>debates, the treaty is likely to favour free trade concerns over
>>environmental prudence, and play into the hands of biotech companies such
>>as the US giants Monsanto and Dow.
>>
>>'The US is willing to threaten biodiversity in the name of short-term
>>profits. It wants a biotrade, not a biosafety, protocol,' said
>>Greenpeace's political adviser, Louise Gale. 'Over the past two years the
>>US has flooded the world market with unregulated and unlabelled
>>gentically-engineered [GE] grain. It is clear it wants to continue this
>>practice and will sabotage any efforts to set international rules for GE
>>crops.'
>>
>>Although the US has no formal delegation in Cartagena, it sent a powerful
>>lobby group of biotech company representatives. They have worked with a
>>handful of other countries to ride roughshod over the concerns of the
>>European Union and the developing world, which fears it will become a
>>unwitting testing ground for biotechnology.
>>
>>Last week the British delegation broke ranks with its EU colleagues when
>>it helped to write a set of proposals strongly in favour of the US
>>position, and which will form the watered-down basis of any treaty signed
>>today
>>
>>The proposals essentially reduce any potential agreement to govern the
>>trade in genetically engineered seed, and offer few or no restrictions on
>>the trade in genetically engineered grain to be used in food, and other
>>commodities containing GMOs. If adopted, the paper will also sideline
>>liability concerns for another four years while freeing up trade.
>>
>>Unless the majority of the countries can force their agenda at the
>>eleventh-hour, the right of countries to say no to the import of
>>genetically modified organisms will not be subject to global agreement,
>>except for seeds. Instead it will be reduced to a decision by individual
>>states, which can be contested before the World Trade Organisation.
>>
>>At the same time, the rights of individual countries to insist that
>>genetically engineered grain, for example, be segregated from conventional
>>grain, and that commodities containing genetically modified organisms be
>>labelled, has been fudged.
>>
>>The implications of a weak protocol for importer countries and the vast
>>majority of the developing world were demonstrated at the weekend with the
>>arrival of a US grain-carrier at the nearby Caribbean port of Santa Marta.
>>Its cargo would be unaffected by the current proposed wording of the
>>protocol.
>>
>>The cargo ship Abydos docked on Saturday to unload 17,000 tons of maize,
>>which even by the biotechnology industry's estimates could contain up to
>>3,500 tons of genetically engineered grain. Colombian law makes no
>>provision for the presence of GE grain in the shipment, and the country
>>becomes a passive recipient without the right of prior consultation.
>>
>>
>>Countries fail to ag

[CTRL] Fw: What to fear from the New World Order

[Lloyd Miller]

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-Original Message-
From: Gaylon Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Recipient.List.Suppressed:; 
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 4:37 PM
Subject: What to fear from the New World Order


This is a very large web site, but take the time to read it all.  This is a
European Union Parliament web site.  It tells about what is to come here in
the US.

http://jya.com/stoa-atpc-so.htm

Pass this on to your E-mail list.

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- Martin Luther King, Jr.

"It is immoral to see evil and not act on it."
- Robert F. Kennedy

"In a Time of Universal Deceit -- TELLING THE TRUTH IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT.
"
- George Orwell

"To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards of men."
- Ella Wheeler Wolcox


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[CTRL] Yev Gotta Apologise

[Andrew Hennessey]

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>
>If someone puts out a story like Andrew's, he should be able to defend
>it against the skepticism it deserves.
>
>Lying is an attack upon the perceptions of the person being lied to.
>It does psychological damage by causing one to lose one's confidence
>in one's ability to judge reality. Any lie should be shown up and
>counter attacked.

Skepticism is a science - there are at least half a dozen forms of
skeptical argument within the Philosophy of Science and epistemology.
Insane ? yes the story is Fng insane - its sad that its the truth.
I don't want to rock your version of reality - that is not my right.
I apologise if I have disturbed you -

best wishes,

Andrew Hennessey

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Re: [CTRL] Incredible Disclosures and Dis-Ease

[Andrew Hennessey]

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>
>Have you told your story in a book form or to you have something written
about
>your expierence that you may post ?
>
>If, not, would you be interesting in telling your story for publication?
>
>Are there any news reports that relate to your story?

I have made absolutely no attempt before today to articulate this stuff
let alone think about the commercial implications.
I still feel a bit vulnerable - and my two parents and remaining sister
live in Edinburgh and Leith.

There is a police report about the gunman who had followed my parents out into
the pentland hills. etc.
I don't really want to get involved in a credibility battle at this time, for
as I have already seen by the nature of the flames already posted, maybe
I'm not as strong about this as I at first thought.
It would gain me or my family nothing to further risk more of our lives.

Everyone has a story to tell - and perhaps I should seek solace in that.
I apologise for behaving like a victim.

Andrew Hennessey

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FDIC's "Know Your Customer Rule"
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"Smugglers' Sea Marker May Imperil Whales [Regional Briefing:
   The Americas]."  Washington Times, 23 February 99, A12.
The environmental Group of 100 has asked the Mexican
government to investigate whether a cyanide-based chemical
known as Natural Killer-19 which is used to make fluorescent
marks in the water to mark drug shipment points for drug
smuggler ships and planes, is responsible for the deaths of
seven gray whales along the coasts of Sinaloa, Sonora, and
Baja California Sur states.

I can see it now...little leaping-whale stickers on bags of cocaine and
heroin..."Whale Safe! No cyanide used in smuggling this product!" Yes
sirree... Nothing like knowing your market...

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> Does anybody know where I can get an English translation of  Gluttony>, a Japanese language book about Shiro Ishii, Unit 731, and the
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[CTRL] [Fwd: OPPT-Newsbreak Tuesday, 23 Feb 1999]

[1lls0081]

Some may wonder why I have posted so many of these.  I have been keeping up OPPT
since they have decided to stay on line and their information has not been as
hard hitting as it once was.  This last one has some juicy morsels in it though.

Laura
aka The Pied Piper



OPPT NEWSBREAKTuesday, 23 February 1999


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  NEWS

"Planned Parenthood Gets Anthrax Threat." New York Times, 23
February 99, A14.
 An FBI spokeswoman says that 24 occupants of a Planned
 Parenthood clinic in Kansas City, Montana were quarantined
 with no injuries today after the clinic received a letter
 containing a powdery substance the sender claimed was
 anthrax.  The substance will be tested.  A similar threat
 was received by workers at a Planned Parenthood clinic in
 Newark, Delaware today.  Last week, at least 14 letters of
 this kind were received by abortion clinics and Planned
 Parenthood centers across the nation.  The letters were
 post-marked Lexington, Ky. Tests revealed all to be hoaxes.

"PCB's in Hudson Striped Bass at Safe Levels, State Says." New
York Times, 23 February 99, A18.
 Safe-to-eat PCB levels in striped bass of the lower Hudson
 River have been found for the first time in twenty years by
 New York environmental scientists with the Environmental
 Conservation Department.  The lifting of a 23-year-old ban
 on commercial fishing may be considered by state officials.
 PCB's were legally released by General Electric factories
 until the 1977 banning.  Clean-up is expected to continue
 despite improving conditions.

"Biotechnology Treaty Stalls as U.S. and Developing Nations
Quarrel." New York Times, 23 February 99, A9.
 Talks between the U.S. and developing countries regarding
 the drafting of the Biosafety Protocol, a global
 biotechnology safety treaty that would regulate the shipment
 of genetically altered organisms between countries, are at a
 standstill over disagreements, one of which concerns whether
 exporters should receive permission from importing nations
 for shipments of agricultural commodities like genetically
 altered soy beans or wheat.  The U.S. argues that such food
 commodities need not be covered because they won't upset the
 importing country's ecological balance by introducing new
 genes to present species, the prevention of which is the
 objective of the treaty.  Developing countries argue that
 these commodities contain seeds that could escape into the
 environment.  Pharmaceuticals, organisms used in scientific
 research and products made from genetically altered
 organisms are exempted from the draft as well, raising
 criticism from developing countries.  Negotiations will end
 Tuesday.

"Smugglers' Sea Marker May Imperil Whales [Regional Briefing:
The Americas]."  Washington Times, 23 February 99, A12.
 The environmental Group of 100 has asked the Mexican
 government to investigate whether a cyanide-based chemical
 known as Natural Killer-19 which is used to make fluorescent
 marks in the water to mark drug shipment points for drug
 smuggler ships and planes, is responsible for the deaths of
 seven gray whales along the coasts of Sinaloa, Sonora, and
 Baja California Sur states.

"Refuse, Lack of Jobs Sully Cape Breton.  Economic Hopes Focus on
Cleanup."  Washington Times, 23 February 99, A12.
 A profile of Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, which federal,
 provincial, and local officials have declared as "Canada's
 worst hazardous waste site."  Little attention was paid to
 the contamination from the island's steel and coal
 industries until the 1980s, when toxins were found in local
 lobsters.  Joint Action Group, the cleanup committee,
 includes government officials and community volunteers who
 are studying cleanup options.  The cleanup is expected to
 cost hundreds of millions of dollars and take many years to
 complete.  Sidebars:  maps and photos.

"Pediatric-Drug Rules Attacked in Lawsuit." Wall Street Journal,
23 February 99, B5.
 The government is being sued by two generic-drug industry
 groups, the National Pharmaceutical Alliance and the Generic
 Pharmaceutical Industry Association, who argue that the FDA
 is making much too broad an interpretation of the 1997 Food
 and Drug Administration Modernization Act which gives
 companies the right to keep generic versions of their
 product off the market for an extra six months if they
 themselves are studying the drug's effect in children.
 Generic-drug groups are finding that major pharmaceutical
 firms are extending their market exclusivity to whole lines
 of products rather than just on t

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OPPT NEWSBREAK  Monday, 22 February 1999


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 NEWS

"Bombs-to-Plowshares Program Criticized." New York Times, 22
February 99, A8.
 The GAO's study of two Energy Department programs reveals
 that American aid may have been supporting Russian
 scientists still working on projects related to nuclear,
 biological and chemical weapons.  The Energy Departments
 programs were established to employ former Soviet weapons
 scientists in peaceful, profitable work.  One of the
 programs is being criticised for being poorly supervised.
 Some changes recommended in the report are being
 implemented.  A description of the report's key findings are
 given.

"Everglades Restoration Plan Does Too Little, Experts Say." New
York Times, 22 February 99, A1, A15.
 Nearing draft completion, the Federal-state Everglades plan,
 designed to restore a natural water flow to the Everglades
 and re-establish a healthy ecosystem, is being questioned by
 ecologists who say that the project would leave the South
 Florida peninsula too dependent on a system of
 compartmentalizing levees, canals, pumps and reservoirs etc.
 rather than known-to-work natural processes for water
 distribution.  In a letter to Interior Secretary Bruce
 Babbitt, ecologists and other scientists asked that the
 plan, due in July, be submitted for scientific review.  The
 establishment of a panel to continuously evaluate the
 restoration project over the next few decades is expected.
 Water that is currently being artificially pumped into the
 Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean would be partly
 rechanneled under the plan and released as needed in the
 Everglades.

"A Chemical-Plant Explosion Killed...[What's News]." Wall Street
Journal, 22 February 99, A1.
 Five people were killed and 14 injured on Friday as a result
 of a chemical-plant explosion in Allentown, Pa.

"Tainted Fruit Suspected In Florida Typhoid Cases [National News
Briefs]." New York Times, 22 February 99, A15.
 The FDA has warned consumers not to eat the El Sembrador
 brand of a tropical fruit called mamey or frozen juices made
 from mamey.  The fruit is showing a strong link to typhoid
 fever hospitalizations that have occurred since mid-December,
 primarily in Hispanic communities in South
 Florida.  El Sembrador's mamey, from Guatemala, was found in
 the home freezers of the victims or at restaurants where
 some ate the fruit.

"Waste Management Stirs an Analysts' Food Fight." Wall Street
Journal, 22 February 99, B5A.
 Stock market analysts are debating whether Waste Management,
 Inc. is raising prices in the New York City market.  The
 industry giant is cited for proposing a 40% price raise for
 garbage sent from New York City to its Virginia and
 Pennsylvania landfills.  The increase is expected to impact
 third-party disposers that are not under contract who use
 WMI landfills.  There hasn't been any input from WMI to
 douse the debate.

"India, Pakistan Pledge to Reduce Nuclear-War Risk." Wall Street
Journal, 22 February 99, A1. "India Leader's Pakistan Visit Ends
in Pledges to Make Peace." New York Times, 22 February 99, A4.
 Ending with a promise to warn one another in advance about
 ballistic-missile tests, the prime ministers of India and
 Pakistan closed their summit meeting.  Both countries,
 capable of launching nuclear-warhead missiles, agreed to
 take action to reduce the chance of accidental nuclear war.
 Both countries have agreed to make efforts to resolve
 conflicts about Kashmir, a divided region that has been the
 focus of two previous wars between the two countries.

 EDITORIAL & COMMENTARY

"EPA Can't Win This Country's Sprawl Brawl [Op-Ed]."  Washington
Times, 22 February 99, A21.
 Jonathan H. Adler, senior director of environmental policy
 at the Competitive Enterprise Institute and the author of
 "Environmentalism at the Crossroads," criticizes the
 Clinton-Gore Administration's new multibillion-dollar
 environmental agenda, which includes a $700 million subsidy
 for EPA-approved bonds for local environmental projects.  He
 favors returning control over environmental policy to state
 and local governments:  "In many instances, the best thing
 the federal government can do to enhance environmental
 protection is get out of the way--and eliminate those
 policies  and programs which subsidize or encourage
 environmental harm."

"Attack of the Killer Potato [Review & Outlook]." Wall Street
Journal, 22 February 99, A18.
 Lectin, a protein used in Britain to increase potatoes'
 resistance to nemato

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OPPT NEWSBREAK

   Friday, 19 February 1999


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  NEWS

"High Pesticide Levels Seen in U.S. Food." New York Times, 19
February 99, A12.  "Pesticide Levels Cited As Risk to Children.
Produce Items May Exceed EPA Guidelines."  Washington Post, 19
February 99, A2.
 A Consumer Reports analysis of toxicity levels of fresh,
 frozen and processed fruits and vegetables finds that, while
 most of the foods tested for pesticide residues fall within
 legal limits, they exceed EPA standards for young children.
 As required by the 1996 Food Quality Protection Act, EPA is
 re-examining the effects on children of commonly-used food
 pesticides.  This article provides a list of "toxicity
 scores" for foods that were tested.  In the study, domestic
 fresh peaches showed the greatest toxicity level; methyl
 parathion was the most frequently detected pesticide
 residue. To reduce pesticide intake the article recommends
 peeling produce and eating fruits and vegetables that are
 organically grown.

"Environmentalists Sue to Stop Plant Alterations."  Washington
Times, 19 February 99, A!0.
 Greenpeace International, the Center for Food Safety, and
 the International Federation of Organic Agricultural
 Movements filed a lawsuit against EPA to force the agency to
 cancel registration of all genetically engineered Bt plants,
 cease approval of any new Bt plants, and conduct an
 environmental impact assessment.  Bt, or Bacillus
 thuringiensis, is a soil bacterium that produces toxins that
 kill insects but are nontoxic to mammals.  Scientists have
 developed plants that contain a gene for Bt toxin, but many
 groups are concerned that insects will become resistant to
 Bt, which would pose a threat to organic farmers who are
 permitted to use Bt to control pests.

"EPA Is Preparing Emission Standards For Snowmobiles, All-Terrain
Vehicles." Wall Street Journal, 19 February 99, B5B.
 Emission standards governing all-terrain vehicles and
 snowmobiles are expected from the EPA by September 2000.
 EPA filed a notice Feb.8th in which they estimated that 15
 percent of all hydrocarbon emissions and 9 percent of all
 carbon-monoxide emissions are from snowmobiles and ATVs. As
 a result of the new rules, manufacturers may need to
 redesign their vehicles, replace two-stroke engines and
 increase retail prices.  Emission standards are currently
 being developed for outboard motors, Jet-Ski-type
 watercraft, forklifts, compressors, generators, lawnmowers
 and other gasoline-powered equipment.

"Makeshift Junkyards Take Root on Kauai, And Scenery Suffers."
Wall Street Journal, 19 February 99, A1, A8.
 As many as 5,000 cars and trucks sit abandoned on roadsides,
 in yards and in sugarcane fields, turning Hawaii's "Garden
 Island", Kauai, into "Garbage Isle".  This article gives an
 explanatory chronology for the recurring problem that is
 linked to lack of space, regulatory obstacles and politics.
 A bill has been introduced to give Kauai more money to
 dispose of vehicles.

 EDITORIAL & COMMENTARY

"Food Irradiation's Hysteria Industry [Commentary]."  Washington
Times, 19 February 99, A19.
 Michael Fumento, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute,
 supports the irradiation of food to help eliminate or reduce
 levels of bacteria in raw meat and other food products.

   AROUND THE BELTWAY: DC/VA/MD REGIONAL NEWS

"Intersection Closed During Anthrax Scare [Briefly:  District]."
Washington Times, 19 February 99, C11.
 Authorities closed off the intersection near the Washington
 Surgical Center after a package warning that it contained
 anthrax was found at the abortion clinic.  The package was
 given to the FBI for analysis.  An FBI spokeswoman said the
 FBI does not believe the package is linked to other recent
 anthrax scares.

 ACROSS THE USA, from USA Today

"Redbird, Kentucky [Across the USA]." USA Today, 18 February 99
7A.
 In an effort to stop garbage from accumulating below
 Cumberland Falls or blocking areas on Lake Cumberland, a
 $3.25 million filter system "Trash Gate", developed by the
 Corps of Engineers, is being used and monitored for
 effectiveness.

"Portsmouth, Rhode Island [Across the USA]." USA Today, 18
February 99, 7A.
 The Army Corps of Engineers expects to complete a study this
 summer in lieu of choosing a new dump site for muck that
 accumulates in the shipping channel of Providence River.
 Fishermen are concerned about lobster grounds.

* All items, unless indicated otherwise, are available at the
U.S. Environmental Prot

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  NEWS

"Headcheese...[Digest]."  Washington Post, 18 February 99, E8.
 2,600 pounds of headcheese, a seasoned loaf made of the head
 meat from a calf or pig,  distributed by Ba Le Meat
 Processing & Wholesale is being recalled because it may be
 contaminated with listeria.  The packages of "`Ba Le Gio Thu
 (Headcheese)'" were produced from January 7 to February 5,
 weigh from one to eight pounds, and are marked with "`Est
 118442'" in the U.S. Department of Agriculture inspection
 mark.

"FDA Ordered to Lift Ban on a Diet Supplement."  Washington Post,
18 February 99, A6.
 U.S. District Court Judge Dale Kimball ordered the Food and
 Drug Administration to lift its ban on imports of red yeast
 powder from China that contains mevinolin.  The agency
 regarded mevinolin as an unapproved drug because it is
 identical to Mevacor, a synthetic drug that is prescribed to
 lower cholesterol.  Pharmanex, which markets the powder
 under the name Cholestin, had challenged the ban.  The judge
 ruled that Cholestin "fits the definition of `dietary
 supplement.'"  The ruling could hamper the government's
 ability to regulate natural remedies under the 1994 Dietary
 Supplement Health and Education Act.

"Mexico: Halting Forest Fires [World Briefing]." New York Times,
18 February 99, A6.
 Farmers who set fire to fields in preparation for planting
 will be fined and jailed if Chiapas state's proposl becomes
 a law.  Fires destroyed 500,000 acres of rain forests last
 spring.

"Shell Does Not Contain Toxic Agents [Metro:  In Brief:  The
District]."  Washington Post, 18 February 99, B3.
 Army officials said a World War I artillery shell found on
 the grounds of the residence of the Korean Ambassador does
 not contain toxic chemical agents, but they are not sure if
 the shell is an explosive artillery round or a harmless
 smoke round.  The shell was found Tuesday during a search
 for canisters of poisonous chemical agents that may have
 been buried after World War I.

"Coos Bay, Ore. [Nation in Brief:  Addenda]."  Washington Post,
18 February 99, A13.
 Nearly 70,000 gallons of fuel oil may have spilled from the
 New Carissa, the grounded tanker that may be towed about 200
 miles into the Pacific Ocean and sunk in 5,000 feet of
 water.  "The Coast Guard said the depth and cold should
 contain the viscous 135,000 gallons of fuel oil that remain
 in the bow."

   PEOPLE IN THE NEWS

"Rep. Jeffery Cohelan Dies at 84; Served 12 Years in the U.S.
House.  Calif. Democrat Was Advocate for Environment, Civil
Rights [Obituaries]."  Washington Post, 18 February 99, B6.
 Jeffery Cohelan, a liberal Democrat from California who
 served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1958 to
 1970, died February 15 in Washington.  He was 84 years old
 and had Parkinson's disease and colon-rectal cancer.  Rep.
 Cohelan co-sponsored legislation that established the
 Redwood National Park, and he co-sponsored a bill that made
 Point Reyes peninsula, north of San Francisco, part of the
 national park system.

"Anchorage [Nation in Brief:  Addenda]."  Washington Post, 18
February 99, A13.
 Joseph Hazelwood, the former captain of the Exxon Valdez,
 was ordered to begin his sentence for his role in the 1989
 oil tanker spill by picking up trash on Alaska state lands.
 He was sentenced to perform 1,000 hours of community
 service.

 ACROSS THE USA, from USA Today

"Montgomery, Alabama [Across the USA]." USA Today, 17 February 99
13A.
 In an action which affects about 4,000 Alabama farms,
 regulators adopted rules requiring farmers to show that they
 are managing animal waste properly, especially hog-breeding
 operations.

"Washington, DC [Across the USA]."  USA Toda, 17 February 99,
13A.
 At Anacostia River Day Pride Cleanup, volunteers picked-up
 trash along the river.  Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton plans
 to file a bill in Congress that would create a program to
 continue this pick-up.

"Lansing, Michigan [Across the USA]." USA Today, 17 February 99
13A.
 Gov. Engler has been criticized in letters from
 environmental and public health groups who are unhappy with
 his stand against federal pollution guidelines.  His office
 has offered to cut smog levels by half of that which is
 required by EPA.

"Charles City, Virginia [Across the USA]." USA Today, 17 February
99 13A.
 Waste Management, Inc. has been temporarily barred from
 transporting dangerous materials into Virginia.  The company
 is accused of illegally 

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  NEWS

"Debate Over Threat From Infected Mice." New York Times, 16
February 99, A13.
 Channel Islands National Park Superintendent, Tim Setnicka,
 says that the particular strain of hantavirus carried by
 deer mice on the five-island chain off the Ventura coast,
 will not infect humans.  Although officials of the park agree,
 some experts do not.

"Power Plant Explosion Claims Another Victim [American Scene]."
Washington Times, A5.
 The natural gas explosion that occurred Feb. 1 at the Ford
 Power Plant in Dearborn, Mich. has claimed the life of a
 fourth victim, Ken Anderson, who died Sunday.  The plant
 resumed production last week.

"Wildlife Recovering from Exxon Spill." USA Today, 11 February
99, 3A.
 It has been almost 10 years since the Valdez oil spill and
 many species are showing signs of improvement at varying
 rates.

"Recalculating Radon [Science Times]." New York Times, 16
February 99, D5.
 Scientists at Columbia University who irradiated thousands
 of lung-tissue cells from mice with one alpha particle each,
 found that the frequency of DNA damage is low.  The new
 study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy
 of Sciences, furthers scientific research on the hazards of
 naturally occurring radon gas inside the home.

"Green Groups Fuming Over Park Snowmobiles." USA Today, 12
February 99, 4D.
 A consortium of 60 environmental groups petitioned 5 federal
 agencies (including the Environmental Protection Agency) to
 bar snowmobiles from entering national parks.  The coalition
 referred to  "Adverse impacts to park wildlife, air and
 water quality, vegetation, park ecology and park users ."
 However, snowmobile advocates claim that the charges are
 exaggerated and not scientifically supported.

"Public Opposition Prompts Restrictions Against Jet-Powered
Personal Watercraft." USA Today, 12 February 99, 4D.
 Officials with the National Park Service expect to announce
 a final policy on Jet Ski-type watercraft. Many
 environmental groups want to ban these watercraft.

   EDITORIALS AND COMMENTARY

"The Forest Service's New Deal [Editorials]."  New York Times, 16
February 99, A18.
 The Times is generally supportive of the U.S. Forest
 Service's policy direction under chief Michael Dombeck.
 They describe some of the changes he has made including
 mining bans and a moratorium on road-building in National
 Forests.  The second half focuses on the ongoing
 controversies over the Tongass National Forest in Alaska,
 concluding: "But the only sure way to sustain what is left
 of these magnificent old-growth forests is for Mr. Dombeck
 to put them off limits to new roads when he unwraps his
 final plan in 18 months.  That would make a good policy even
 better."

  TOXICS IN THE NEWS: ASBESTOS

"The Asbestos Epidemic: USA - Part 4 of 4." USA Today, 11
February 99 A.
 Although the health risk of asbestos in buildings is
 extremely low, over $50 billion has been spent in the last
 20 years to remove asbestos from buildings that are older or
 have been abandoned or remodeled.  Scientific evidence has
 not convinced the public that asbestos left alone in
 buildings is OK.

 GLOBAL WARMING

"In Ancient Ice Ages, Clues to Climate [Science Times]." New York
Times, 16 February 99, D1, D4.
 Scientists studying chemical tracers of past climates
 believe that the warm period of today could continue for
 20,000 years or more, prolonging earth's entrance into
 another ice age.  New evidence from deep-ocean sediments
 indicates that warm periods in that past lasted longer than
 scientists thought.  Scientists compare today's warm period,
 called the Holocene period or Stage 1, to a similar
 interglacial, called Stage 11, that occurred 400,000 years
 ago.   The effects of burning fossil fuels today, however,
 were not present in the past.  Green house gases are
 expected to warm the earth's temperature so that it will
 melt ice, flooding coastal areas and the tropics.

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  NEWS

"Polio Shots in  50s,  60s Are Linked to Cancer.  Tainted Vaccine
Given to Millions."  Washington Times, 17 February 99, A1, A18.
 A new study on the effects of SV40, a virus that came from
 dead monkeys whose kidney cells were used to culture the
 first Salk vaccines, found evidence linking the monkey virus
 to a number of human cancers, including brain tumors, bone
 cancer, and mesothelioma, a once-rare type of lung cancer
 linked primarily to exposure to asbestos.  Tens of millions
 of people who received the vaccine in the 1950s and 1960s
 are at risk of having been infected.  The study was led by
 Dr. Janet Butel of the Baylor College of Medicine in Waco,
 Texas, and is published in the _Journal of the National
 Cancer Institute_ [no citation given].

"National Parks Struggle With Use of Snowmobiles.
Environmentalists, Riders at Odds."  Washington Times, 17
February 99, A6.
 Earlier this month, the National Park Service ordered a
 12-month ban on snow machines in Denali National Park
 in Alaska to prevent snowmobiles from intruding on wildlife
 and sensitive wilderness.  The ban was praised by
 environmentalists but criticized by snowmobile enthusiasts
 and critics of federal restrictions on public lands.  Rep.
 Don Young (R-Alaska), chairman of the House Resources
 Committee, has called for an "`immediate recision'" of the
 ban.  The Bluewater Network says the exhaust from
 snowmobiles "is endangering `park wildlife, air and water
 quality, vegetation, park ecology and park users.'"

"FDA Approves New Test to Detect Lyme Disease."  Washington Post,
17 February 99, A4.
 The Food and Drug Administration has approved PreVue, a new
 test for Lyme Disease that can be done in a doctor's office,
 allowing quicker diagnosis and earlier treatment.  PreVue is
 made by Chembio Diagnostic Systems.

   AROUND THE BELTWAY: DC/MD/VA REGIONAL NEWS

"Court Temporarily Bans Dumping Medical Waste."  Washington
Times, 17 February 99, C3.
 Last week, Virginia sued Waste Management Inc. after finding
 illegally dumped medical waste at the Charles City County
 landfill.  On Tuesday, County Circuit Judge Thomas B. Hoover
 issued a temporary restraining order and set a hearing for
 February 26 on the state's request for an injunction barring
 medical waste shipments by the company.  Waste Management
 could face a fine of up to $500,000 for this latest incident
 of illegal dumping.

"WWI Shell Found at Ambassador's Home [Briefly:  District]."
Washington Times, 17 February 99, C2.
 The Army Corps of Engineers found an unexploded 75mm World
 War I projectile at the Korean ambassador's home in
 Northwest Washington.  Munitions specialists continue to
 look for other weapons, including mustard gas, at the site
 of the former American University Experiment Station.

"Woman Hospitalized After Gas Stove Leak [Briefly:  Maryland]."
Washington Times, 17 February 99.
 Prince George's County fire officials found a 62-year-old
 Fort Washington woman unconscious in her home, where gas was
 leaking from her stove.  She was taken to Prince George's
 County Hospital Center and is listed in stable condition.

 ACROSS THE USA, from USA Today

"Greenwich, Connecticut [Across the USA]." USA Today, 16 February
99, 6A.
 A law is being proposed by the state Dept. of Environmental
 Protection requiring that permits for sewage treatment
 plants include limits on the amount of nitrogen dumped into
 the Long Island Sound.  Less-polluting plants would be able
 to sell unused credit for dumping to facilities which do a
 lot of dumping.

"North Providence, Rhode Island [Across the USA]." USA Today, 16
February 99, 6A.
 Tests are being conducted by the U.S. Environmental
 Protection Agency in more than 200 places along the
 Woonasquatucket River to determine the extent of dioxin
 contamination.  This is EPA's largest sampling effort to
 date.

"Seattle, Washington [Across the USA]." USA Today, 16 February
99, 6A.
 The state Dept. of Ecology predicts that the Washington
 coast will begin seeing signs of oil that leaked from the
 New Carissa off Coos Bay, Oregon.  Since the freighter ran
 aground three weeks ago, much of the oil has been burned
 off.

"Casper, Wyoming [Across the USA]." USA Today, 16 February 99,
6A.
 Citizens are complaining about orange gas clouds escaping
 from the Amax Eagle Butte Coal Mine north of Gillette.
 Federal officials say the state did not respond adequately
 to complaints about toxic nitrogen oxid

[CTRL] Fwd: OSS alumni

[nessie]

 -Caveat Lector-

Some alumni of the OSS, the Office of Strategic Services, America's first
central intelligence agency:


Brown, Norman O.: classicist

Kirkpatrick, Evron: political scientist

Marcuse, Herbert: philosopher

Schlesinger, Arthur: historian

Sweezy, Paul: Marxist economist

Mellon, Paul: banker's son

Bruce, David: banker's son's brother-in-law (and commanding
officer),son-in-law of Secretary of Treasury, multimillionaire,
ambassador to France 1948-49, ambassador to Germany 1957-59,
ambassador to Britain 1961-69, delegate to Viet Nam Peace
conference  1970-71

Morgan, Junius: banker's son

Morgan, Henry: banker's son

Armour, Lester: meat packer

Goldberg, Arthur: attorney,  Labor Secretary

Bunche, Ralph: professor, civil rights advocate

Horrigan, William: attorney, later became president of
Panama-based World Commerce Corporation

Dillon, C. Douglas:  Treasury Secretary

Dulles, Allen: attorney (Sullivan and Cromwell), perpetrator of
Operation SUNRISE (escape of SS at end of WWII), purchaser of
fifty million doses of LSD from IG Farben subsidiary Sandoz,
DDCI 1951-53, DCI 1953-61 (fired by Kennedy), member of Warren
Commission, author ("The Craft of Intelligence" 1963)

Helms, Richard: Naval lieutenant, DCI, CIA Deputy Director for
Plans 1962-65

Sicre, Ricardo: one of the richest men in Spain,  V.P. of
World Commerce  Corporation (WCC was a firm  founded after the
war by OSS Chief,  "Wild Bill" Donovan  and  William Stephenson
of British Intelligence)

Hayden, Stirling: ex-merchant seaman, actor, novelist, friend of
Donovan's son (served with Tito in Yugoslavia)

Coon, Carlton: anthropologist (Harvard)

Roseborough, Frank: attorney (Sullivan and Cromwell)

Gurfein, Murray: Assistant New York District Attorney arranged
"deal" to parole Luciano

Shaheen, John: GOP publicity director

Oblensky, Serge: "Prince"

Angleton, James Jesus: amateur poet (Yale), orchid enthusiast

Oechsner, Fredrick: formerly Berlin manager of United Press, director of
"black" propaganda

Hughs, H. Stuart: historian (Harvard)

Forgan, James Russell: banker's son replaced David Bruce

Ryan, Theodore: attorney (Yale), prominent Connecticut Republican

Daddario, Emilio: attorney, Connecticut Congressman

Toulmin, John: V.P. First National Bank of Boston, distant relative of
Dulles brothers

Roosevelt, Kermit: grandson of Teddy

Glueck, Rabbi Nelson: archaeologist, first discovered the site of King
Soloman's mines

Wisner, Frank: attorney (Wall Street), chief of CIA Office of Policy
Coordination  1948-52, CIA Deputy Director for Plans1953-58, resigned
1962, suicide 1965, co-star of  by Christopher Simpson

Bailey, Stephen: political scientist (Oxford), future  President Syracuse
University

Scribner, Joseph: investment banker

Smolianinoff, Andre: executive (DuPont stock brokerage)

Seitz, Albert: engineer, ex-RCMP, CIA Balkan operations 1946-52, chief of
a U.S. "training assistance group" Laos 1957

Yarrow, Bernard: Russian emigre, assistant to N.Y. District Attorney,
Thomas E. Dewey, joined Sullivan and Cromwell after war, became senior
V.P. of Radio Free Europe, 1952

Kirkpatrick, Lyman:  Assistant Director CIA, Inspector General CIA, future
Executive Director CIA, professor of political science (Brown University)

Pearson, Norman: professor of English (Yale)

Will, Hubert: instructor in international relations (Yale)

D'Oench, Russell: grandson of founder of Grace Shipping Lines

Van der Stricht, Paul: future vice-chairman of Warner-Lambert
Pharmeucutical Co.

Sharp, George: attorney (Wall Street), a leading partner at Sullivan and
Cromwell, recruited American contingent of JEDBURGH

Canfield, Franklin: yet another Dulles legal associate, recruited American
contingent of JEDBURGH

DuPont, Alfred: architect "unaffiliated with his family's huge chemical
concern"

Burke, Michael: football star (University of Pennsylvania), general
manager of Ringling Brothers Circus 1954-56, president of the CBS network
in Europe 1958-62, president N.Y. Yankees cr.1972

Alsop, Stewart: author, columnist

Alsop, John: attorney (Wall Street), columnist's brother

Hemingway, Ernest: famous writer

Hemingway, John: son of famous writer

Colby, William: JEDBURG, CIA station chief in South Viet Nam, head of
CIA's Far Eastern operations division, chief of American "pacification"
programs in Viet Nam DCI

Casey, William: wealthy N.Y. tax attorney,  (reputed) mastermind of
"October Surprise", DCI

Rositzke, Harry: CIA station chief in India 1961-63, (during
ambassadorship of John Kenneth Galbraith)

Tolstoy, Ilia: grandson of famous writer, later became general manager of
Marineland in Florida

Birch, John: fundamentalist Baptist missionary "first casualty of the Cold
War"

Banks, Aaron: JEDBURGH, "father" of the Green Berets

Conien, Lucien: JEDBURGH, Landsdale's sidekick, co-star of "Politics of
Heroin in South East Asia" by Alfred McCoy

Rostow, Walter: a principal architect of America's Viet Nam policy,
principal White House advis

Re: [CTRL] suppression in tokyo of chinese massacre

[nessie]

 -Caveat Lector-

>theres a book called rape of nanking by iris chang thats heavily
documented,
and refers to ballards book  as well . Changs book is very good

Does anybody know where I can get an English translation of , a Japanese language book about Shiro Ishii, Unit 731, and the
Japanese bio-war experiments on US POWs in Makchuko during WWII? I have
the Japanese edition, but that and a dollar buys me one cuppa joe.

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Re: [CTRL] WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD - your reality check's bouncing...

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Why is it that the only time the list ever hears from me, is when I'm asking
for comments, or shooting some one down for something that just seems dumb.

To the person who started this thread, and those who continued to build upon it
(especially the anti-semitic commentaries) - give yer head a shake!  Hollywood,
IMHO, can be accused of a great many things, but setting up the *world* for
subservancy to a Jewish super-power is not one of them!  Do you really have
that little confidence in humanity?  What you're suggesting is ludicrous, not
because the 'Jews' are behind it (who, I might add, are as capable as any other
sub-culture), but because you firmly believe that people would flock to movie
theaters in the droves that they obviously do, for the sole purpose of being
subverted!  Why would a proud Texan pay $8.00 to sit through a movie that, for
the next two hours is going to berate him and his upbringing?  And more
interestingly, if I'm not from Texas, have never known anyone from Texas, and
see a great number of Hollywood films per year, why do I not think badly of
Texans?

I come from a relatively right-wing city of 900,000 mostly normal, intelligent
people (and aside from the population of the city, I think that description
could be applied to most of the cities you know).  One of our local public
theaters, run by local gov't, once hired as their CEO of the theater, an
extremely liberal, gay rights activist.  Almost instantly, every musical,
balet, or Shakespearian play, became a soap box for preaching tolerance and
acceptance of gays in our schools, churches, supermarkets, etc..  Personally,
I've got a couple of friends who are gay, and the idea didn't bother me the way
it seemed to affect others.  But then - I don't go to a lot of plays either.
As I'm sure you can guess, people reacted to the change after only a couple of
plays, the press eventually coloured it bad, and the theater's managing
director found himself unable to sustain much of an audience after about a
year.  Capitalism prevailed, he's been released of his duties, the theater's
showing themes more relevant to the local modern culture, and people are going
to plays again.

Summary - I think there are two things wrong with the hypothesis that I'm
seeing throughout your anti-wood thread:
   1.   You think we're all empty skulled idiots, hopelessly waiting for
someone to fill our vacant craniums and point us in the 'right' direction (pun
intended).
   2.   You also think that you're intelligent enough to wrap your anti-semitic
views in a cloak of horror, and pass them off as conspiracies.

Well, at the risk of sounding a little nasty: I'm not an idiot, and although
I'm an athiest who disagrees with the very idea of organized religions, I find
most of this anti-semetic thread offensive and absurd.

Sgt Bee...

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[CTRL] Y2K - Millennium Buck

[Scott Bourassa]

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 By now, we have all heard of the Y2K Bug, however few people are aware of
 the Y2K Buck. It can strike anywhere! And, worse yet, it is striking even
 before the year 2000.

 If you are not sure about your money then send it to  me, care of the Y2K
 Team and I will check it with our special Y2K Buck Checking Software. If
 the money is Y2K compliant,  I will send it back to you with an authentic
 letter of Y2K compliance.

 Any money which is not Y2K compliant will be properly and appropriately
 disposed of ! Send your money now, before the Y2K Buck Strikes You!

- - - - - - - -
Sgt Bee

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[CTRL] NEW "CONCEAL-CARRY" WEBSITE!

[Peter L. Sroufe]

Live on the Phone with Nebraska Sheriff Karl 
Dailey!
 
Folks,  911 is not going to save your life.
http://www.nralive.com/
 
BARD
 NRA Live.url

Re: [CTRL] suppression in tokyo of chinese massacre

[Liz Schumacher]

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theres a book called rape of nanking by iris chang thats heavily documented,
and refers to ballards book  as well . Changs book is very good

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Re: [CTRL] Virus Alert

[Jim Norman]

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As an additional warning:   I just completed the unpleasant tast of reformating
and reloading all my software on my computor.  Seems I got a virus that, without
warning, wiped my first sector of my hard drive.  No bells, no stars, no gigling,
just boom.  The Alpha nerd at Home Office computors said, "dude, the drive checks,
man... you gotta reload."  It was not fun.  Next stop for me is a RAID 1.
Jim

Danny Cox wrote:

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> the extent possible and then we won't have to worry about accidently
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Re: [CTRL] WHY REPTILES EAT women who--

[Liz Schumacher]

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this explains why His Royal Hi, Chuck, has this  great flaming desire to be a
tampon!
 Does this mean that Camilla belongs to a secret group that morphs into
Rottweilers  ?

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[CTRL] Anatomy of a food scare

[Robert Tatman]

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from New Scientist

Anatomy of a food scare

10 August 1998: Arpad Pusztai, a biochemist at the Rowett Research Institute
in Aberdeen, appears in a documentary on British TV to warn about the
inadequate testing of GM foods. He claims to have carried out experiments
showing that feeding genetically engineered potatoes to young rats suppresses
their immune responses and harms their growth and development. Pusztai's
remarks are seized upon by opponents of GM foods everywhere.

12 August 1998: The Rowett says Pusztai muddled his results and was wrong to
talk about unpublished findings. The institute says that the rats had eaten
not GM potatoes but ordinary potatoes spiked with a jack bean lectin, one of a
family of proteins used by plants to ward off insect pests and which are often
toxic to mammals. Environmentalists cry "cover-up". Biotechnologists say it is
much ado about nothing, as nobody planned to sell potatoes engineered to carry
the lectin and in any case, even if Pusztai had done the experiments he
described, all it proved was that if you insert a gene for a toxin into a
potato the potato becomes toxic.

14 August 1998: Pusztai, who is past retirement age, is suspended and told
that his annual contract will not be renewed. He is instructed not to speak to
the media about his results.

28 October 1998: A panel set up by Philip James, director of the Rowett
institute, criticises Pusztai, but does not accuse him of scientific fraud. It
becomes clear that, despite the institute's initial claims, his experiments
did involve potatoes engineered to contain a gene for a lectin.

However, the Rowett claims there is no "statistically significant" evidence in
Pusztai's data suggesting that rats were harmed by the transgenic potatoes.
The institute's report into the affair also states that Pusztai's experiments
focused on potatoes containing a lectin from the snowdrop, not from the jack
bean, as was previously thought.

November 1998: Pusztai's supporters circulate his "alternative report" among
sympathetic scientists. This contradicts the Rowett's report, reiterating the
claim that GM potatoes harmed the rats.

12 February 1999: Twenty scientists from 14 countries who have examined
Pusztai's report accuse the Rowett of bowing to political pressure. The group,
including former associates of Pusztai and active opponents of biotechnology,
calls for a moratorium on GM crops on the grounds that the study reveals an
unforeseen hazard that would not be picked up by standard toxicity tests.
Environmental groups say this is the first evidence of toxicity caused by the
process of genetic engineering itself.

13 February 1999: The British government rejects calls for a moratorium amid
allegations that it is in the pocket of the biotech industry.

14 February 1999: Further claims of a cover-up surface when it is revealed
that the Rowett received £140 000 of funding from GM food giant Monsanto
before the Pusztai affair blew up. Newspaper reports also claim the British
government offered millions of pounds in inducements to encourage biotech
firms to invest in Britain.

15 February 1999: Members of the government show signs of bowing to media and
public pressure. Environment minister Michael Meacher says he will bring
wildlife specialists onto the committee that oversees the release ofGM crops
into the environment, which has come under fire for being dominated by
scientists associated with the biotech industry. He also floats the idea of
establishing a "GM food commission". Meanwhile, opposition politicians call
for the resignation of science minister Lord Sainsbury, who in the past has
invested in companies with interests in GM products.

16 February 1999: The gagging order placed on Pusztai in August is lifted and
his "alternative" report is published on the internet at
www.rri.sari.ac.uk/press/.

>From New Scientist, 20 February 1999

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[CTRL] Frankenfears

[Robert Tatman]

 -Caveat Lector-

from New Scientist,
http://www.newscientist.com/cgi-bin/pageserver.cgi?/ns/19990220/newsstory1.html

Frankenfears

Andy Coghlan, David Concar, Debora MacKenzie



Hostility to genetically modified food has exploded in Britain amid claims
that it is being rammed down the public's throat without proper safety
testing. At the centre of the storm is a researcher who argues that GM foods
could create unforeseen hazards. New Scientist looks at the science behind the
accusations. Just how worried should we be?

At face value, Arpad Pusztai's findings cast a pall over the entire GM food
industry. His results, obtained at the Rowett Research Institute in Aberdeen,
suggest that procedures routinely used in genetic engineering can make plants
harmful. No wonder, then, that the British public and media--primed to
distrust official assurances about food safety after their experience with
BSE--are up in arms.

Yet Pusztai's data remain mired in confusion. His claim that rats are harmed
by eating a particular kind of genetically engineered potato has yet to be
confirmed. And even if the potatoes are harmful, this may not have any
relevance to GM crops approved for sale. Any ill effects could have been
caused by something specific to the transgenic potatoes he used--which were
never intended for human consumption--rather than the process of genetic
engineering itself.

Pusztai was trying to discover if a protein taken from snowdrops could harm
rats when fed to them in potatoes. Several labs are investigating whether the
gene for this protein, which is of a type known as a lectin, could be added to
crops such as rice to make them resistant to sap-sucking insects. So data on
its safety are important.

Some of Pusztai's rats were fed ordinary potatoes laced with the lectin.
Others ate potatoes genetically engineered to make the lectin themselves. A
control group of rats ate ordinary potatoes.

Pusztai found differences in the size of several organs in young rats eating
the transgenic potatoes, and evidence of damage to their immune systems. Rats
eating the lectin-spiked potatoes showed no such effects, he claims,
suggesting that something other than the lectin caused the damage. One
suggestion is that the problem lies with what genetic engineers call the
"construct"--the package of DNA introduced along with the foreign gene.

This DNA includes a gene that makes the potato resistant to the antibiotic
kanamycin and another that makes a substance which stains blue. These extra
genes give researchers a convenient way to identify plants that have
incorporated the lectin gene into their DNA. The construct also includes a
"promoter" sequence from a cauliflower mosaic virus, which boosts the
production of the lectin protein.

The idea that such a construct is a health risk flies in face of the
conventional biological wisdom. But given that similar constructs are found in
other GM plants, it's a disturbing suggestion.

One of Pusztai's supporters, Stanley Ewen, a pathologist at the University of
Aberdeen, has made further observations that add to the controversy. When Ewen
examined samples of gut lining from rats which had eaten the transgenic
potatoes, he saw abnormalities such as increased production of cells in
intestinal crypts, the clefts between the finger-like villi that line the wall
of the small intestine.

Pusztai's own report on his experiments, which he sent to Rowett director
Philip James in October, was released last week by the environmental group
Friends of the Earth at a press conference attended by scientists sympathetic
to Pusztai. They are angry with the institute for disciplining Pusztai after
he spoke out on television (see "Anatomy of a food scare").

Most of the researchers contacted by New Scientist are unconvinced by
Pusztai's data and sceptical of the theory that the construct is to blame. One
problem is that Pusztai's report does not include key raw data on the spiked
potatoes needed to verify his claim that the genetic manipulation was the
source of the problems.

The most likely explanation, says Willy Peumans, whose team at the Catholic
University of Leuven in Belgium has supplied Pusztai with lectins to feed to
rats, is that the process of inserting the lectin gene into potato cells and
their growth in tissue culture disrupted the behaviour of the potatoes' other
genes. This may have altered the plants' biochemistry and made them produce
high levels of other toxic substances, such as alkaloids. This theory is
strengthened by the fact that the protein, starch and glucose levels of the
transgenic potatoes all differed markedly from those of the natural plant.
They contained 20 per cent less protein than normal, for example, and Pusztai
had to add protein supplements to the rats' meals.

If the altered potatoes' strange biochemistry, rather than the inserted DNA,
lies behind their toxic effects, the implications for food safety are less
serious. Crop engineers already test for altered b

Re: [CTRL] A virtual unknown

[Howard R. Davis III]

 -Caveat Lector-

Kris Millegan wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> from:
> http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/special/engelbart/part2.htm
> http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/special/engelbart/part2.htm"
> >SiliconValley.com: News   
> -

> He manipulates the screen with a mouse in his right hand, while typing
> commands with his left hand on something that looks like five piano
> keys, called a chord keyset.
>
> "I can 'talk' to the computer at the same time that I'm 'pointing,' " he
> explains. Although Engelbart spent the next 10 minutes describing how
> this device works, I never did understand him. He's the first to admit
> he's a lousy salesman of his own ideas, a serious handicap for a
> revolutionary.
>
> The chord keyset, I subsequently learned, is ingenious. It's an
> auxiliary to a standard keyboard, allowing you to deliver commands in a
> shorthand code. If your right hand is busy using the mouse, your left
> hand can keep working.
>
> "It needs to be much easier to use before I'd buy it," I tell him.
>
> Engelbart's easygoing manner vanishes. "I hate the term 'user-friendly,'
> " says the guy credited with virtually inventing the concept. "People
> balk if they have to learn a different way of doing something."
>
> The keyset has never been turned into a viable commercial product -
> which drives Engelbart nuts. To Engelbart, the fact that many of his
> innovations are user-friendly is incidental. He believes the commercial
> world's fixation on user-friendliness has seriously slowed down the
> computer revolution. Instead of developing the best tools, marketers
> want products that are easy to use, even if they aren't the most
> productive. So consumers are sold inferior products. He sighs, "This is
> what I came up against in the '70s."


   I have a set of two keyboards, one for each hand which each have a
key each for the fingers and three keys for the thumb. Each by itself
can be used to type anything one would type with a standard keyboard.
They work by cording. Some letters use only one finger, but others may
use two, three, four or even all five. Some things have to be done by
shifting with one of the auxiliary thumb keys. This changes the
configuration of the whole keyboard temporarily.
   I have used this keyboard set up with just the left hand for entering
music into a music typesetting program with great benefit. I can see
that it would be useful for other programs such as graphics or
databases. Any program which requires a lot of mousing or keyboard work
other then straight text entering. Entering text is may be very
efficient also, but I never got that good at it. So, anyway, the device
mentioned in the story is basically available, though perhaps somewhat
different (maybe better). It is called a "BAT". The company is called
Infogrip, inc. 805-566-1049   1-800-397-0921 They are at: 1141 East Main
St., Ventura, CA 93001

Howard Davis

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[CTRL] Irania: Selections: 02-23-99

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

>From IRNA



thr 052

iran-kuwait (2)  tehran

the region.

president khatami said the slump in oil prices has dealt a serious
blow to the national asset of the oil producing countries.

he expressed hoped that the member states of the organization of
petroleum exporting countries (opec) would realize the current
crucial situation and do what they can to protect their national
assets.

"under the current situation, only the importers and consumers of
oil are making profits while the oil producing countries are making
loss and importing their needs from the oil consuming states at very
high prices," he said.

the president said iran and kuwait have excellent relations and
called for further development of bilateral relations to set a pattern
for other regional states.

the islamic republic of iran and kuwait would cooperate in
economic areas, carry out joint venture projects and participate in
reconstruction programs, he said.

president khatami said iran and kuwait have common religion,
culture and similar history, the background shared by over one
billion muslims in the world.

on his part, as-samit said kuwaiti crown prince sheikh saad
al-abdullah as-salim as-sabah would visit the islamic republic of iran
soon and that the kuwaiti officials are willing to develop relations
with iran.

the kuwaiti minister said the kuwaiti delegation held useful
talks with the iranian scholars and cultural figures and hoped that
this would serve to promote cultural relations between the two
countries.

as-samit pointed to president khatami's proposal on dialog among
civilizations and said the president's cultural tenet would help
foster friendly relations between the nations and governments.

ss/rr

end

::irna  23/02/99  19:38



thr 026

eu arms industry-restructure call

   uk minister urges restructure of eu defense industries

london, feb. 23, irna - uk defense secretary george robertson has
warned of dire consequences for british and european defense
industries unless companies restructured to compete with their
giant american rivals.

 "either we rationalise or we won't have any jobs left in this
very valuable and very important industry," he told parliament
monday.

  the european problem was that its industries lack the scale to
be globally competitive, robertson said. rationalisation was
therefore "not a luxury, it is a necessity," he warned.

the defense secretary said his government was committed to
encouraging and facilitating the restructuring of europe's arms
industry, but stressed it was not for the government to say how it
should happen but should be based upon "commercial judgement."

his call for cooperation came ahead of an expected announcement
tuesday of a merger between britain's air force and navy harrier
aircraft force.

the creation of a joint new force follows the government's
strategic defense review, which laid out plans for more cooperation
between the army, navy and air force.

hc/ks

end

::irna  23/02/99  14:37



thr 013

u.s.-iraq-killings-press

   u.s. plot to eliminate islamic movement in iraq: paper

tehran, feb. 23, irna -- the english daily 'tehran times' tuesday
wrote that the recent assassination of ayatollah mohammad sadeq
al-sadr prepared the ground for islamic groups to come out of their
cocoon and openly oppose saddam hussein and added that the muslims
must be wise enough not to be entrapped by the west and rely only on
the popular forces in their movement.

the daily was referring to the mounting unrest in a string of
towns across the mainly shiite south and shiite districts of the
capital of iraq during the past few days.

washington has been repeatedly saying that it is all out to
topple saddam, noted the daily adding that it even called on islamic
groups to join hands with the white house in toppling the iraqi
president.

however, ''what is surprising is that once the muslims are out,
there is no assistance from the west. one is therefore justified to
suspect that the west is out to first eliminate the islamic opposition
in iran by saddam hussein and then deal with the iraqi president,''
noted the daily.

''saddam has gone down in history for his brutality against the
shias in the south. the genocide of the shiites in 1991 is in fact a
black page in the history of saddam's rule,'' pointed out the paper
adding that this time too, it seems that he as been given a go ahead
by the west to eliminate the shiite movement.

what saddam hussein is ignorant about is that once the brutal
suppression of the islamic movement is through, the west will easily
get rid of him, stated the daily in conclusion.

fh/ks

end

::irna  23/02/99  11:27




A<>E<>R

The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved
the abs

[CTRL] Iraq: Rockin' in the New Year

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

>From Associated Press

Tuesday February 23 10:02 AM ET

Iraqis Fire on Protesters in Tehran


AP Photo

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Thousands of Iraqi demonstrators converged on Iraq's
embassy in the Iranian capital today, and witnesses said Iraqi guards
opened fire as some protesters scaled the fence around the compound.

Ten protesters entered the embassy grounds, but were quickly expelled, the
witnesses said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Witnesses said they saw
no sign of injuries, but that Iranian riot police arrested several
protesters outside the embassy.

The Iraqis, who numbered more than 3,000, came to the embassy to protest
the killing of Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Sadiq al-Sader, a senior Shiite
Muslim cleric who was gunned down in Najaf, Iraq, on Friday.

About 100 Iranian riot policemen battled with the demonstrators, who threw
stones at the embassy.

There was no word of any injuries.

The protesters had earlier demonstrated peacefully in front of the United
Nations office in Tehran, accusing the Iraqi government of murdering
al-Sader and two of his sons.

There are hundreds of thousands of Iraqi refugees in Iran. Most of them are
Shiite Muslims who were expelled from Iraq after President Saddam Hussein's
Baath Party came to power in 1968. The Baath Party, which is dominated by
Sunni Muslims, accused them of being of Iranian origin.

Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, on Monday blamed Iraq for
al-Sader's death.

The Iraqi government says unknown gunmen in a passing car killed the cleric
and his sons as they were driving home.

Al-Sader was highly respected among Shiites, who comprise about 65 percent
of Iraq's 22 million people. Iran is predominantly Shiite.

Al-Sader was thought to be close to the Iraqi government, which appointed
him a grand ayatollah. But his relations with the government began to sour
after he issued an edict last year calling on the Shiites to attend weekly
Friday prayers in mosques.

The Iraqi government disapproves of big crowds, which al-Sader frequently
drew. His edict, or fatwa, was seen as an attempt to establish himself as
an independent leader.



>From Wash DC Post

Iraq Dilemma Erodes Annan's Bond With U.S.

By John M. Goshko
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 23, 1999; Page A13

UNITED NATIONS, Feb. 22—The Clinton administration plucked Kofi Annan from
the ranks of U.N. career diplomats and steered him into the job of
secretary general primarily in hopes of gaining a forceful advocate for
reforming U.N. bureaucracy. But as Annan approaches the halfway mark of his
five-year term, his reputation has become tied instead to his differences
with the United States over how to deal with President Saddam Hussein of
Iraq.

Although Annan serves a constituency of 185 member states, the political
and financial support of the United States is so important to giving the
United Nations relevance in world affairs that the secretary general cannot
afford to ignore what is on Washington's mind. At present, that is Iraq,
where Clinton administration officials seem fixated on eliminating what
they see as the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. But Annan -- backed by what
increasingly seems to be a majority sentiment among other U.N. members --
has moved farther and farther from the administration in judging how best
that can be done.

"Managing the ties with the United States always has been one of the
secretary general's most important jobs, and this split on an issue of such
centrality to American interests shows how precarious the U.S. relationship
is with the United Nations," said John R. Bolton, who served as assistant
secretary of state for U.N. affairs in the Bush administration.

"We're not talking here about conservative Republicans who always have been
skeptical of Annan. We're talking about the vast difference traveled by the
Clinton administration from a man with whom it originally had an
identification closer than that between Washington and any previous
secretary general."

No one expected it to be that way when Annan moved to the top job here in
1997. But in the past year, what to do about Iraq has overwhelmed just
about everything else on the world body's agenda. Inevitably, frustrations
generated by the failure to find an answer have caused the relationship
between Annan and the United States to go into free fall.

Despite the chill, Annan still has more entree than his predecessors. Where
past U.S. administrations dealt with U.N. leaders through their ambassadors
here or second-rank State Department officials, Annan talks frequently,
sometimes two or three times a week, to Secretary of State Madeleine K.
Albright and national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger.

Annan plans to be in Washington Tuesday and Wednesday, giving a speech at
Georgetown University on peacekeeping, meeting with House and Senate
majority and minority leaders, seeing Berger and attending a White House
dinner for President Jerry Rawli

Re: [CTRL] HENNESSEY = PARANOID

[Michael Estes]

 -Caveat Lector-

I found your post quite illuminating though I had difficulty attemtping to
extract the gist of your message from the surrounding verbiage.

Please be advised I was not ATTACKING any of your inhabitants/personalities
or you. I merely forwarded one of your posts to the wanderers list and made
this comment: "YOUR LESSON IN DISCERNMENT FOR TODAY." However, apparently
at least one of your inhabitants/personalities perceived this action as an
ATTACK.

Don't worry. If I attack you personally there will be absolutely no doubt
in your mind or anyone elses mind.

You might consider subscribing to some other kind of list besides a
CONSPIRACY list (perhaps a KNITTING list?) as you seem to be getting a
little PARANOID.

M9
BLACK OPS UNIT



On Monday, February 22, 1999 11:29 PM, Andrew Hennessey
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Some guy called Michael Estes has exercised his natural right to mete out
a
> personal attack - presumably because he disagrees with the humourous
> way I deal with various Horrific Subject areas eg. the possibility
> of truth in alien carnage stories - which if true in the slightest
> is going to put my life at risk - Humour though is my way of Coping
> with Horror -
> The CTRL may be interested in some personal Biog notes - all I can say
> is that to the best of my ability and discernment - they are true, and
> will explain where I'm coming from.
>
> My name is Andrew Hennessey.
> I have pre-birth memories of choosing this life.
> I am protected by an intelligent 'humanoid' being aka 'angel'
> I have been attacked by terrifying 'black hole' energy sucking phenomena
> in my room in 1978.
> I was Benevolently abducted in 1980 by 'Zeta' types
> I have been targeted, harassed and attacked by Security Service ever
since.
> I developed a Unifying Theory of Relativity with 'Free Energy' ideologies
> And  derived Tesla and Keeley theories from first principles using
independent
> Knowledge, solving the Quantum and 30 other 'impossible' academic
paradoxes.
> I was 'visited' by 2 men-in-black in 1985 who tried to blot these
emerging
> Theories from my mind.   http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~pegasus/
> Attempts were made on my life by an individual in a hostel on 2
consecutive
> nights And the only thing I knew about it on both occasions was waking up
> whilst my Legs were already thrashing out at my attacker - my 'angel'
> having animated my body To save my life.- the man held off and
compromised
> on both ocassions.
> I have seen and verified Doppelgangers in 1985
> In 1985, my sister Avril, who had worked for the United Nations Relief
and
> Works Agency for Palestine, was blown up in  a gas explosion in London to
> later die.
> Before the fire service got there, she says that a man came to remove the
> tampered gas fittings.
> In Edinburgh, in 1985 a gunman followed my mother and father out into the
> countryside, and  Parked his car very nearby - he spooked my parents when
> he began looking angry and Agitated - as my father drove past - he could
> see the man trying to force a clip into a Luger.
> My mentally handicapped younger sister was also raped by a man - 1989
whose
> vehicle we traced To the English Military suburban complex of  Bath -
under
> some 'upper class' triple barrelled Name - my father called in a favour
in
> the police force to trace the registration.
> In 1990- 93 further action from SAS, MI5 in private, personal, and
working
> situations Brought an end to my career in the Civil Service. -
> These people seriously damaged my health and career.
> In Scotland MI5 often use the nationalist excuse to target individuals. I
> worked in a public office As an employment consultant. A man introduced
> himself as Mr Wallace of 24 Burgess Street, As ex-SAS - he was a big
bulky
> person  [Wallace perhaps referring to the Scottish national hero of the
> same name]
> He then proceeded to give out a very threatening monologue. I remembered
> THAT name and address. 1993
> At that time as luck would have it I moved into a rented flat at 24
Burgess
> Street, and there was indeed A Mr Wallace staying there - this guy was 5
> foot 1" and very slightly built.
> I am a professional musician - this year, a non-descript fit individual
> turned up at a music rehearsal As an unknown guest, shook my right arm
with
> a martial arts akido handshake giving me a serious Injury to my elbow -
> then left immediately afterwards. I remained ignorant of the injury until
I
> tried To lift something the next day - and I have been incapacitated for
> weeks.
> A woman recently showed up at my Group in Edinburgh 1998/9 mentioning
> circumstances and personal Details about me that only my deceased sister
> could have known - she claimed that she had MI6 and 'Jewish' connections
> and that my sister avril had 'arab' friends.
> I know that Avril only possessed superfluous knowledge past its sell by
> date in the year she was hit, She was only a secretary. She was also
> hideously raped

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CTRL] Mystery Contrails As A Mass Vaccination Effort

[nessie]

 -Caveat Lector-

My ex has a Ph.D in molecular biology and has done decades of research.
During the course of our relationship she has  taught me scientific
method, scientific methodology, and how to fine tune my BS detector. She
has greatly augmented my  capacity for critical thinking for which I am
eternally in her debt.

She also shares my interest in CBW and secret history in general. She also
eye witnessed a crosshatch contrail pattern over the East Bayand shortly
thereafter developed flu like symptoms. She has since developed a
secondary infection and is currently on antibiotics. She has NOT passed
this on to her current main squeeze, which is peculiar, all things
considered. While well informed vis a vis CBW and open minded, even
suspicious, of CBW and/or disinfo as a possible explaination for the
contrail story phenomenon she prefers the more mundane explaination unless
and until solid proof to the contrary surfaces, which hasn't happened. I
concur.

I asked her what she thought of the "vaccination" theory. FWIW, here's
what she said:




> First it hit her respiratory system and she "literally" couldn't breathe,

> She'd be dead if she "literally" couldn't breathe.

> This would put the antibiotic DNA  strands into the food chain from the
lowest levels.

> This is a meaningless statement.  There's no such thing as an antibiotic
DNA strand.

> I suggest you never give any credence to anything these people say, ever
again.  They are drawing conclusions based on NOTHING and are very
dangerous.
They're idiots. They sound like raving right-wing nuts.  The kind that talk
about their precious bodily fluids.

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and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
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Re: [CTRL] Incredible Disclosures and Dis-Ease

[nurev]

 -Caveat Lector-

Andrew Hennessey wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> hi,
>
> I have some thoughts on the nature of the information that I was trying
> to supply - about the 'Events' that have happened to myself and my family,
> and it is fair for readers on this list to assume 3 things at least.
>
> 1. either I am an agent of disinformation
> 2. I am telling a truth as I believe it
> 3. I am telling a truth as we would agree to believe it.
>
> However, it may be that, based on the outright and extremely hostile nature
> of the responses, that this list cannot facilitate the discussion for
> which it was allegedly designed.
> The other thing is that perhaps some people are not as well read as they
> would have us believe and may be incapable of dealing with unfamiliar ideas
> because of the often 'incredible' nature of the 'alleged' disclosures on a
> list of this type. [for that they cannot really be blamed]
> This leads us to realise that the status of any information we see on our
> screens is open to question - caveat lector - reader beware -
>
> If, say, I wish to tell you that my sister, who I loved was butchered, and
> that I was present when she died, blind and bloated on a 'slab' - you can
> either dissasociate yourself easily from this information - and if YOU
> don't feel like it - you can switch off and turn away - after all 'its only
> the internet' -
> But perhaps this knowledge is extremely real and painful to me - we would
> never know how I feel about it - only that it is some words on your monitor.
>
> It may also be that I feel that my life is in danger and just simply need
> to talk - or as Nurev 'Dimento' suggested - it may be that in common with
> the vast majority of the human race - I have a mental health problem.
>
> Yet the only traffic on this list given 'real' validity appears to be the
> mental health problems of american politicians and media figures.
>
> Consider that although it may be impossible for you to believe me even if
> my CV - which I posted checks out - that I too, have symptoms of an incredible
> dis-ease - a lack of ease with the way Human Being treats Human Being.
> I have that trouble with Global Politicians conspiring in self interest,
> I have that trouble wwith the way that MY family has been treated and I
> have that trouble with Mr Nurev - who has mis-behaved - only I suppose
> because what he saw was too far outwith his 'comfort zone'
>
> But perhaps - like myself, even he has a perspective to contribute to our
> knowledge of the continuing inhumanities of the Human Race.
>
> Andrew Hennessey
> Transformation Studies Group
> Edinburgh   Scotland
> [00 44] 131 554 4486

What do you want from us Andrew? What do you expect to get from cyber
strangers?

There are real inhumanities happening every day. To millions of
people.
People on the net are more aware of them than most. I don't have
enough
compassion and sympathy to deal with the overwhelming input.

If you are a loony or a liar, as I think you are, I resent the
intrusion
into my emotions for whatever reason you are doing this.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Yev Gotta Laugh ?? aka 'not for the squeamish'

[nurev]

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Kris Millegan wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 2/23/99 6:23:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >Andrew,
> >
> >Based on your story, I strongly suggest that you start using drugs.
> >500mg's of Thorazine every thirty seconds is probably suitable for
> >a lunatic like you. If that doesn't work, become a born again
> >Christian.
> >At least that way your insanity would be understood in a religious
> >context.
> >
> >No more LSD. It's bad for you.
> >And don't hitch hike.
>
> Please, this type of rhetoric isn't helpful. Let us please be civil.
> Om
> K

I have to defend this one Kris. This guy is lying or nuts. This kind
of story is manipulative in that it evokes sympathy from the reader.
I don't know to what purpose, maybe he's practicing writing fiction.

If someone puts out a story like Andrew's, he should be able to defend
it against the skepticism it deserves.

Lying is an attack upon the perceptions of the person being lied to.
It does psychological damage by causing one to lose one's confidence
in one's ability to judge reality. Any lie should be shown up and
counter attacked.

I practice psychic self defense.

The offense is in the bullshit.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Virus Alert]

[Robert Tatman]

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> >At least it has a nice name! ;)
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> I notice that a few members of this list send almost everything as
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Good idea...except that AOLers are at the mercy of their program, which seems
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[CTRL] Media Bypass/Jack Thompson Exposes Reno

[Gavin Phillips]

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4bypass.com/stories/reno-exposed.html



Prominent Attorney Jack Thompson
Tells All About Janet Reno
©1999 Pat Shannan.

Attorney Jack Thompson
In 1987, Dade County attorney Jack Thompson gave evidence of a
criminal pornography enterprise targeting children to local prosecutor
Janet Reno. She appeared to be sincerely interested and began
to pursue it but suddenly backed off. "I knew she was a lesbian," says
Thompson, "and that troubled me as Christian, but it doesn’t disqualify
her as Attorney General or as State Attorney at that time. The
problem is  that she is in the closet about it, which raises the blackmail
option." He had acquired the evidence to prove that Reno had refused
to prosecute this case because she had been threatened with exposure
of her drinking and sexual habits if she proceeded.
Thompson was the Republican nominee in 1988 for the office of Dade County
State Attorney, when
he first raised this issue publicly. He was running for what was the most
powerful political office in all
of south  Florida and called a press conference attended by 21 media entities,
charging Reno with
refusing to prosecute the child pornography case because the principals
involved had threatened to
expose her lesbianism, if she proceeded. Thompson bluntly and publicly called
it "blackmail" and
stated that the citizenry cannot afford to have any public officials hiding
embarrassing situations
because of the susceptibility to those political enemies "who would play the
extortion card."
Anyone, during the days of a free press, making such an inflammatory
announcement would have
certainly become immediately newsworthy. The fact that the State Attorney’s
political adversary in
the heat of an election was alleging such a thing should have made frontpage
headlines, column one.
Instead, it was totally quashed. The story was spiked by all 21 news entities
and was never read nor
heard by the public...
Thompson says that he has been accused by his detractors (i.e. liberal talk
show hosts and the Miami
Herald) of being "obsessed with Janet Reno’s sexuality," but quickly and
emphatically retorts with
"that part simply isn’t true."  He points out that no public official can
afford to be in the closet with
this kind of secret. "The only male in Janet Reno’s life is blackmail!"
[ snip, snip... ]


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article.  Subscribe to Media Bypass today.
Text and photo ©1999 Pat Shannan.
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[CTRL] Re-Post Open Letter to FBI About RENO Blackmail

[Gavin Phillips]

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I'm re-posting this article because it helps prove how compromised and
criminally tainted Reno has become; also to augment the partial posting of
Media Bypass's February main story by the same man. I will be purchasing a
copy of it this week, if I can find somebody who sells it. Gavin.

<< Oh, yes, folks, let's "work within the system."  By all means. Let's see.
 The "system" has produced, among others, a President who is an amoral,
 pathological liar and an Attorney General who is  ... well.  Argg!   ICE

 From:"PRRG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject:  Attorney General Reno's Blackmail Problem

 Jack Thompson Open Letter to FBI Director Freeh
 August 13, 1998 Jack Thompson


 Dear Director Freeh (via fax to 202-324-4705): Monday, August 10,
 1998, The Wall Street Journal published my letter responding to a
 guest column written by Lanny Davis about why Janet Reno should not
 seek an independent counsel on fund raising. My published words
 point out that when Lanny Davis called me to "vet" Reno's A.G.
 nomination, "I gave Davis information, which could be corroborated
 by multiple sources wholly independent of me, that Reno was unfit
 to practice law, let alone serve as this country's top cop." The
 Wall Street Journal would not have printed these incendiary words
 if they did not already know from their own sources what I and
 others know: Reno uses call girls for sex and has a string of drunk
 driving incidents, which can be substantiated by following leads
 provided to the FBI field personnel who not surprisingly did a
 phony background check while William Sessions was FBI Director. You
 know full well why Sessions did not want to ruffle this
 Administration's feathers: job maintenance. One of the most
 fruitful of these leads is provided by a Crystal Kazim, who is an
 organized crime call girl who provided sex for money to Reno on a
 regular basis. She says so. Additionally, six police officers who
 pulled Reno over for drunk driving were never cotnacted by the FBI.
 You know as well as I do why thorough background checks are
 supposed to be done on would-be Cabinet officials: to see if their
 character is sturdy enough to do the job, undeterred by either a
 character infirmity or by extortion by those willing to expose that
 infirmity. Janet Reno, I state to you categorically, hereby putting
 my law license on the line, has been blackmailed in the past
 because of her substance abuse and criminal sexual exploits, and
 she can be blackmailed now by a President who is known to use
 "dirt" on people to bend their will. You should immediately have
 your FBI agents follow the leads that prove Reno's
 blackmailability, and you should report your findings to the
 appropriate Congressional oversight committees. I will presently
 state under oath, to anyone, what is need to find the truth.
 Attorney Jack Thompson Florida Bar #231665 305-666-4366 E-mail
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---
 A copy of this letter is being provided to certain members of the
 media and Members of Congress, including Congressman Bob Barr.
 ---
 Great idea. I do not have a history of physical or mental health
 problems. I am rated A/V by Martindale-Hubbell, so I have the
 highest rating possible as to both skill and ethics per my peersin
 this very liberal local law community. I have been faithful every
 minute of every day to my wife of 22 years. I am an ordained elder
 in the Presbyterian Church in America. I don't cheat on my income
 taxes. I am a five handicap at golf (I don't cheat at golf as was
 proven in The American Spectator about POTUS), and I drink maybe
 one beer per day. Reno's minions tried to destroy me through The
 Florida Bar years ago, and they found nothing, with The Bar having
 to pay me $20,000 in damages for the experience. Thus, I have been
 through the fire, and I have been cleansed and tempered by it.
 Bring on the hounds of spin. I can take it all. God is my sword and
 my shield. Jack Thompson
 From: Jack Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
 ---
 To: DonMorgan
 Dear friends of FreeRepublic: I should like to reply to some of
 your posts about my open letter to Director Freeh. But first let me
 alert you that a fellow with the screen name of "Harrowup" has
 e-mailed me and threatened me by saying he has told AOL and
 FreeRepublic that I am being disruptive and abusive--this after he
 has libeled me all yesterday while trying to disrupt the discussion
 at freerepublic.com/forum/a496545.htm. After a fellow Freeper clued
 me in to who he is really is and what his methodologies for
 disruption and libel are, I noted to Harrowup that the libel laws
 of this country are not suspended on the Internet (just as Sid
 Blumental about Drudge) and that he had best stop disrupting
 discussion. This is what Mr. Harrowup considers disruption and
 abuse by me. Pathetic. Now, on to rational 

[CTRL] The Millennium Report - February 22, 1998: Contrail and Y2K Updates, Miami Circle SAVED, UFO News, "Martia

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
from alt.conspiracy
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As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
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The Millennium Report -
February 22, 1998: Contrail and Y2K Updates, Miami Circle SAVED, UFO News,
"Martial 
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Subject: The Millennium Report - February 22, 1998: Contrail and Y2K Updates,
Miami Circle SAVED, UFO News, "Martial
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson - TMP / CPR-Canada)
Date: Mon, Feb 22, 1999 3:50 PM
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The Millennium Report
The News Service of The Millennium Project

February 22, 1998:
Contrail and Y2K Updates, Miami Circle SAVED, UFO News,
"Martial Law" in Texas and more!

_


The Millennium Project Web Site:
http://persweb.direct.ca/psa

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In This Report:


Contrail Reports, Photos and Feedback -
Updated, Including Report and Photos from Missouri
(Special Research Projects)
http://persweb.direct.ca/psa/conrep.html

Contrails: William Thomas Interview on Art Bell - February 18, 1999
(This audio file link requires RealAudio or RealPlayer)
http://ww2.broadcast.com/artbell/abell/9902/ab0218.ram

Contrails Over Long Island, New York - Report and Photos
http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/cccontrails.htm

Contrails: Mass Vaccination?
http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/massvacc.htm

Contrail Analysis: Examining the Difference Between
"Normal" and "Spray" Contrails
http://www.erols.com/igoddard/contrail.htm

ABC News: Weather as a Weapon?
http://abcnews.go.com/onair/DailyNews/wnt_weatherwar990217_story.html

New "Radar Circle" Anomaly in Nevada
(Special Research Projects)
http://persweb.direct.ca/psa/radar99.html

White House Fears Y2K Panic
http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/17986.html

Y2K: American Cities Begin Alerting Public
http://www.y2knewswire.com/19990222.htm

GAO: Y2K May Bring DC to a Halt
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/daily/feb99/district021999.htm

Y2K Glitch in Ontario Results in Erroneous Traffic Tickets -
Payment Due in 2097!
http://www.earthchangesTV.com/breaking/index.htm#y2k0215

Miami Circle SAVED!
http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/miamicircle2.htm

Miami Circle Live Cam
http://www.enterprisemission.com/miamicam.html

US Attacks US: "Martial Law" Training Exercises in Texas
http://www.sightings.com/politics2/attacks.htm

Armed and Dangerous: Fear And Loathing in Kingsville, Texas
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990215_xex_fear_and_loa.shtml

ABC News on STS-48 UFO Footage
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/ufo990217.html

UFO Roundup 4.8, February 22
http://www.ufoinfo.com/roundup/v04/rnd04_08.html

Filer's Files - February 19, 1999
http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/newlights.htm

Scientists Slow Down Speed of Light to 38 mph!
http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/speedoflight.htm

A Steamy Coverup on the Red Planet
http://science.nasa.gov/current/event/ast18feb99_1.htm

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Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
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Amen.
Roads End
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[CTRL] World control

[Kris Millegan]

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from alt.conspiracy
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Om
K
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World control
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Subject: World control
From: World Domination <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, Feb 22, 1999 10:38 PM
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In case you did not think the USA was trying to become world
control. Now they are your Web Police.
http://www.Web-Police.org/
http://www.dis.org/erehwon/echelon.html
http://www.gn.apc.org/cndyorks/mhs/index.htm








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Roads End
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Re: [CTRL] Incredible Disclosures and Dis-Ease

[Kris Millegan]

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Please let me apologize from any dis-ease you felt from  the list. A story
such as yours is bound to elict guffaws and worse, but as you surmise we do
all bring something to the table. If not just the chance to make yourself
understood and strengthen your mettle.
This subject carries many subcurrents that have benn circulating for years.

Some questions.

How long is the video and how may it be obtained?

Have you told your story in a book form or to you have something written about
your expierence that you may post ?

If, not, would you be interesting in telling your story for publication?

Are there any news reports that relate to your story?

Thanks.

Yours in understanding.

Om
K

In a message dated 2/23/99 10:05:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I too, have symptoms of an incredible
>dis-ease - a lack of ease with the way Human Being treats Human Being.
>I have that trouble with Global Politicians conspiring in self interest,
>I have that trouble wwith the way that MY family has been treated and I
>have that trouble with Mr Nurev - who has mis-behaved - only I suppose
>because what he saw was too far outwith his 'comfort zone'
>
>But perhaps - like myself, even he has a perspective to contribute to our
>knowledge of the continuing inhumanities of the Human Race.
>
>Andrew Hennessey
>Transformation Studies Group
>Edinburgh   Scotland
>[00 44] 131 554 4486
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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] Turn up the volume against 'Know Your Customer' (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/b

[Peter L. Sroufe]

More deprivation of our Freedom:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_ronthal/19990223_xcint_turn_up_vo.shtml
 
BARD
 Turn up the volume against 'Know Your Customer'.url

[CTRL] Incredible Disclosures and Dis-Ease

[Andrew Hennessey]

 -Caveat Lector-

hi,

sorry if this is a 2nd posting - my email package is confused

I have some thoughts on the nature of the information that I was trying
to supply - about the 'Events' that have happened to myself and my family,
and it is fair for readers on this list to assume 3 things at least.

1. either I am an agent of disinformation
2. I am telling a truth as I believe it
3. I am telling a truth as we would agree to believe it.

However, it may be that, based on the outright and extremely hostile nature
of the responses, that this list cannot facilitate the discussion for
which it was allegedly designed.
The other thing is that perhaps some people are not as well read as they
would have us believe and may be incapable of dealing with unfamiliar ideas
because of the often 'incredible' nature of the 'alleged' disclosures on a
list of this type. [for that they cannot really be blamed]
This leads us to realise that the status of any information we see on our
screens is open to question - caveat lector - reader beware -

If, say, I wish to tell you that my sister, who I loved was butchered, and
that I was present when she died, blind and bloated on a 'slab' - you can
either dissasociate yourself easily from this information - and if YOU
don't feel like it - you can switch off and turn away - after all 'its only
the internet' -
But perhaps this knowledge is extremely real and painful to me - we would
never know how I feel about it - only that it is some words on your monitor.

It may also be that I feel that my life is in danger and just simply need
to talk - or as Nurev 'Dimento' suggested - it may be that in common with
the vast majority of the human race - I have a mental health problem.

Yet the only traffic on this list given 'real' validity appears to be the
mental health problems of american politicians and media figures.

Consider that although it may be impossible for you to believe me even if
my CV - which I posted checks out - that I too, have symptoms of an incredible
dis-ease - a lack of ease with the way Human Being treats Human Being.
I have that trouble with Global Politicians conspiring in self interest,
I have that trouble wwith the way that MY family has been treated and I
have that trouble with Mr Nurev - who has mis-behaved - only I suppose
because what he saw was too far outwith his 'comfort zone'

But perhaps - like myself, even he has a perspective to contribute to our
knowledge of the continuing inhumanities of the Human Race.

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
Edinburgh   Scotland
[00 44] 131 554 4486

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[CTRL] Incredible Disclosures and Dis-Ease

[Andrew Hennessey]

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hi,

I have some thoughts on the nature of the information that I was trying
to supply - about the 'Events' that have happened to myself and my family,
and it is fair for readers on this list to assume 3 things at least.

1. either I am an agent of disinformation
2. I am telling a truth as I believe it
3. I am telling a truth as we would agree to believe it.

However, it may be that, based on the outright and extremely hostile nature
of the responses, that this list cannot facilitate the discussion for
which it was allegedly designed.
The other thing is that perhaps some people are not as well read as they
would have us believe and may be incapable of dealing with unfamiliar ideas
because of the often 'incredible' nature of the 'alleged' disclosures on a
list of this type. [for that they cannot really be blamed]
This leads us to realise that the status of any information we see on our
screens is open to question - caveat lector - reader beware -

If, say, I wish to tell you that my sister, who I loved was butchered, and
that I was present when she died, blind and bloated on a 'slab' - you can
either dissasociate yourself easily from this information - and if YOU
don't feel like it - you can switch off and turn away - after all 'its only
the internet' -
But perhaps this knowledge is extremely real and painful to me - we would
never know how I feel about it - only that it is some words on your monitor.

It may also be that I feel that my life is in danger and just simply need
to talk - or as Nurev 'Dimento' suggested - it may be that in common with
the vast majority of the human race - I have a mental health problem.

Yet the only traffic on this list given 'real' validity appears to be the
mental health problems of american politicians and media figures.

Consider that although it may be impossible for you to believe me even if
my CV - which I posted checks out - that I too, have symptoms of an incredible
dis-ease - a lack of ease with the way Human Being treats Human Being.
I have that trouble with Global Politicians conspiring in self interest,
I have that trouble wwith the way that MY family has been treated and I
have that trouble with Mr Nurev - who has mis-behaved - only I suppose
because what he saw was too far outwith his 'comfort zone'

But perhaps - like myself, even he has a perspective to contribute to our
knowledge of the continuing inhumanities of the Human Race.

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
Edinburgh   Scotland
[00 44] 131 554 4486

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[CTRL] [8] The Plot to Seize the White House

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
The Plot to Seize the White House
Jules Archer(C)1973
Hawthorne Books, Inc.
New York, NY

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{Some of his testimony was not released in the official record of the
hearings, for reasons that will be discussed later, but was nevertheless
ferreted out, copied, and made public by reporter John L. Spivak. This
censored testimony is indicated by the symbol + to distinguish it from the
official testimony eventually released by the McCormack-Dickstein Committee.
The same was true of testimony given by reporter Paul Comly French, who
followed Butler as a witness, and the same symbol (+) indicates the censored
portions.* [* The reader who wishes to examine the official testimony is
referred to the government report, Investigation of Nazi Propaganda Activities
and Investigation of Certain Other Propaganda Activities: Public Hearings
Before the Special Committee on Un-American Activities, House of
Representatives, Seventy-third Congress, Second Session, at Washington, D.C.,
December 29, 1934. Hearings No. 73-D.C.-6, Part 1. Extracts of the censored
testimony are revealed in the books A Man in His Time, by John L. Spivak, and
2000 Americans, by George Seldes.]}
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5

After Butler had completed his testimony, Paul Comly French took the witness
chair to report on his own investigation of the plot, in which a candid two-
hour conversation with MacGuire at the latter's office figured prominently.

Describing these talks on the premises of Grayson M.-P. Murphy and Company,
French verified every allegation about the plot the general had attributed to
MacGuire. In addition French reported the more open statements MacGuire had
made to him about the nature of the conspiracy and how it would work. More
frank with French, apparently, than he had dared to be with the general,
MacGuire made little attempt to disguise the Fascist nature of the proposed
putsch with euphemistic phrases about "supporting the President."

FRENCH: We need a Fascist government in this country, he insisted, to save the
Nation from the Communists who want to tear it down and wreck all that we have
built in America. The only men who have the patriotism to do it are the
soldiers and Smedley Butler is the ideal leader. He could organize a million
men overnight.

During the conversation be told me he had been in Italy and Germany during the
summer of 1934 and the spring of 1934 and had made an intensive study of the
background of the Nazi and Fascist movements and how the veterans had played a
part in them. He said he had obtained enough information on the Fascist and
Nazi movements and of the part played by the veterans, to properly set up one
in this country.

He emphasized throughout his conversation with me that the whole thing was
tremendously patriotic, that it was saving the Nation from Communists, and
that the men they deal with have that crackbrained idea that the Communists
are going to take it apart. He said the only safeguard would be the soldiers.
At first he suggested that the General organize this outfit himself and ask a
dollar a year dues from everybody. We discussed that, and then he came around
to the point of getting outside financial funds, and he said that it would not
be any trouble to raise a million dollars.

French's use of the phrase "crackbrained idea" to describe the notion by
financiers and captains of industry that the country needed to be saved from
communism was obviously his own, and not MacGuire's, expression.

Censored in French's testimony was his revelation of the sources to which
MacGuire had said that he could turn for the funds to finance the veterans'
army.

+ FRENCH: He said he could go to John W. Davis [attorney for J. P. Morgan and
Company] or Perkins of the National City Bank, and any number of persons to
get it.

Of course, that may or may not mean anything. That is, his reference to John
W. Davis and Perkins of-the National City Bank.


French testified that MacGuire had sought to impress him by indicating high-
level support for the conspiracy from important movers and shakers of the
American Legion.


FRENCH: He then pushed a letter across the desk and said that it was from
Louis Johnson, a former national commander of the American Legion.

CHAIRMAN: Did he show you the letter?

FRENCH: I did not read it. He just passed it over so I could see it, but be
did not show it to me. He said that he had discussed the matter with him along
the lines of what we were now discussing, and I took it to mean that he had
talked of this Fascist proposition with Johnson, and Johnson was in sympathy
with it.

 During the conversation he also mentioned Henry Stevens, of Warsaw, N.C., a
former national commander of the American Legion, and said that he was
interested in the program. Several times be brought in the names of various
former national commanders of the American Legion, to give me the impression
that, whether justly or unjustly, a group in the American Legion were actively
intere

[CTRL] "The Vampire of the Potomac"

[Peter L. Sroufe]

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[CTRL] [6] Shrine of the Silver Dollar

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
Shrine of the Silver Dollar
John L. Spivak(C)1940
Modern Age Books
New York, NY
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The book that brought down demagog Charles Coughlin, who was the second-most
listened to person in the '30's, right behind FDR. John Spivak exposed Father
Coughlin to be a fraud and in league with Nazi propagandists. Out of print for
many years.
Om
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VIII

THE MYSTERY OF THE
DEFICITS

I HAD INTENDED to show in more detail in this last chapter that Coughlin's
broadcasts, which influence an estimated 3,500,000 listeners, cost much more
than the public contributes for this purpose. I had planned to list all the
forty-seven radio stations in his network and show that an hour's time on each
plus the "line charges" cost over half a million dollars a year. (Line charges
are costs met by the sponsor for the hook-ups between stations.)

The figures which I had from Father Coughlin's own books showed that neither
the Radio League of the Little Flower nor Social Justice magazine, which back
the weekly broadcasts, clears that much money. Since these are the only two
corporations established by the radio priest which raise money on a large
scale, the natural questions were: Who met the difference., and for what
purpose?

Father Coughlin, however, saved me the necessity of going into these details.
He frankly admitted, in the December 18, 1939, issue of Social Justice in
Pleading for a $200,000 radio fund that:

"Radio expense is now close to $10,000 per week."

This estimate, so far as I have been able to ascertain, is correct.

Let's see how the Radio League, which has already collected about a million
dollars from the public and which is tightly controlled by Coughlin's little
coterie of three, functioned right from the beginning.

By the end of 1930--only a few months after it was incorporated--the Radio
League had taken in over $44,000, but business was on the downgrade. I shall
not go into the detailed take from the public in the first few years when the
income fell to a pretty low figure (assets of only a little over $6,000 by the
end of 1934). It was in this period of small assets and a discouraged outlook
that the radio priest began to waver in his fervent pro-Roosevelt and pro-New
Deal speeches. He seemed to be uncertainly feeling his way to see what would
happen. One week found him for the New Deal and the next against it. By the
end of 1935 he was chiefly anti-Roosevelt and anti-New Deal. Big industry and
finance also hated the President and even his remotest ancestor; in Coughlin
they heard a voice which reached the country and attacked the man they hated.
In this very same period the money suddenly started coming in and assets
boomed to almost $80,000. Then funds appeared for launching Social Justice and
for distributing Coughlin's talks free of charge to anyone who asked for
copies. A political organization, the National Union for Social Justice, was
started, and the radio priest sought more and more stations to reach the
people. He didn't seem to have the slightest worry as to how the money to pay
for them would come. By the end of 1936, when he was most active in attacking
Roosevelt and the New Deal, the money he received, presumably in the dollar
and two-dollar contributions from his audience, brought the assets of this
neatly controlled corporation to a little over $200,000 clear of all
liabilities. Coughlin and his two stenographers took the money the public sent
in for the Radio League and bought $14,000 worth of real estate and $54,000
worth of other tangible property, extended credits of $125,000 and socked
$12,000 away in the bank.

By the end of 1937 the radio venture had assets of over $190,000 and not a
penny in liabilities. The trio--Coughlin and his two secretaries--had bought
about $50,000 worth of real estate, extended credits of $116,000, and had
$22,000 in loose change carefully put away in a bank. It was during this year
that Coughlin quarreled with his ecclesiastical superior, the Archbishop of
Detroit; and fearful that the Church might somehow stop him from running the
Radio League, he stepped out as president, though he left Amy Collins and
Eugenia Burke to keep an eye on things and run the outfit. The mysterious
Edward Kinsky became president of the Radio League and vice president of the
privately owned publishing business issuing Social Justice magazine.

Business continued booming, and by the end of 1938 (the latest balancing of
the Coughlin corporation books) the triumvirate had bought around $100,000
worth of real estate, almost $65,000 worth of property, had extended credits
of $118,000, and had a nice nest egg of $190,000 in cash in the bank.

The important thing is not that this trio ran the take up to almost half a
million dollars or that they were buying real estate and other property, which
they controlled exclusively, but that the money was collected from the public
for "charitable and religious" purposes and, in 1937, for "maintenance of
church.

[CTRL] How Many Bloodlines?

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
prioryofsionDigest444
http://www.onelist.com
The mailing list resource page can
be found at the following address
http://www.albino.com/circle/pos/

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Message: 11
   Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:36:28 -0800 (PST)
   From: xxx
Subject: How Many Bloodlines?

There was quite a thread just recently on the subject of 'alternative'
lives of Jesus, particularly referring to the Notovich MS. (published by
Elizabeth Clare Prophet as 'The Lost Years of Jesus') and Jesus's
alleged flight to Kashmir after the crucifixion.

Intriguing things that came out of that discussion included information
on the many different (and incompatible!) versions of the 'Lost Years'
story that exist, both in 'channelled' material, and in the form of
alleged secret or hidden MSS., like Notovich's version; and also
information on what might be called an 'alternative Bloodline' - the
existence of people in Srinagar, north India, who claim to be descended
from Saint Yuz Assaf, whom they identify with Jesus.

There's another one. I don't think anybody mentioned it at the time, but
there is _yet another_ 'alternative Bloodline' in existence. This one is
in, of all places, Japan.

In the village of Shingo (formerly Herai) in the Aomori Prefecture of
Northern Honshu, there are two mysterious graves, and a tradition that
links Jesus with the village. Apparently, a Shinto priest named Koma
Takeuchi, who was not originally from Shingo, had in his possession an
ancient scroll written in archaic Japanese that he couldn't read.
Eventually he had it translated, and discovered that it was the Last
Will and Testament of Jesus Christ, written in Shingo two thousand years
before. In 1935, Takeuchi went to Shingo to investigate, and discovered
there the two graves, and a family named Sawaguchi who had cared for
them for centuries.

Prior to Takeuchi's arrival, the Sawaguchi family hadn't known whose
graves they were guarding; they simply preserved them. With the
translation of the manuscript, it was revealed that one of the graves
was that of Jesus himself, while the other contains the ears (!) of
Jesus's brother and a lock of his mother's hair.

The story in the Takeuchi MS. states that Jesus didn't spend his 'lost
years' in Egypt, or the Himalayas, or even in Palestine. Instead, he
travelled across Asia, visiting Siberia and Alaska, before settling in
northern Japan, where he undertook spiritual training. He then returned
to Palestine, where he carried out his ministry. According to this
story, he wasn't crucified, but, in Koranic style, another suffered in
his stead (apparently voluntarily): this was his brother, named Isukiri
in the MS. After this event, Jesus returned to Japan, taking his
brother's ears with him, and went back to the place he had trained in:
Shingo, then called Herai. Once there, he apparently ceased to preach,
perform miracles or to be in any way remarkable. He married a local
woman called Yumiko (or Mariko), changed his name to Daitenku Taro
Jurai, had three daughters and died at the age of 106, having spent 70
years as a garlic farmer. To this day, Shingo's chief products are
garlic, apples - and the Jesus industry.

Since the MS. has come to light, Shingo has become a place of pilgrimage
for Christian Japanese (there aren't many of these) and for New Agers. A
New Age guru called Michel Desmarquet has invested the discovery of the
graves and the MS. with prophetic significance, and has written a book
on the subject ('Thiaoouba Prophecy'), while his associates have posted
a summary of the story on the internet
at http://www.thiaoouba.com/tomb.htm  . Shingo has Jesus Festivals and a
Jesus Museum, and some enterprising soul has even begun to make and
market Jesus Sake ('Kirisuto no Sato' brand; this means 'Christ's Home
Town'). There are crosses everywhere, and the graves are now fenced off,
marked with crosses, and decorated with flowers.

Many Japanese barely know who Jesus was, and regard all this with
intense bemusement, but I guess the locals of Shingo know when they're
on to a good thing.

Unfortunately, the original of 'Jesus's Will' was destroyed in WWII,
though the MS. had by then been copied. So it's not available for
carbon-dating or other such tests. The text is in the archaic Japanese
of two thousand years ago, and it does say what the translators say it
does, but there's no way, now, of knowing exactly when or by whom it was
written.

The story was summarised in Fortean Times no. 110, May 1998. As well as
the Thiaoouba site, which despite its ulterior motive is by a long way
the most interesting and complete, there are other websites devoted to
the topic:

Jesus in Japan! http://www.japan.co.jp/~jesus

The tone of this one is quite unpleasant, being apparently an attempt
by outsiders to poke fun at the strange inbred people of Shingo and
their weird legends, but it does summarise the story and give many
photographs of the surrounding area, including road signs in Japanese
and English givi

[CTRL] A virtual unknown

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/special/engelbart/part2.htm
http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/special/engelbart/part2.htm"
>SiliconValley.com: News   
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Just two parts of an infromative series.
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 OUR COVERAGE:
Part 1: A virtual unknown
Part 2: Against all odds
Part 3: Debunking the legend of the mouse
Part 4: The crusade
Part 5: It's networking
Part 6: A pioneers' reunion
Tech pioneers

Against all odds
Why was such a brilliant visionary exiled? The answer is clear after
talking with friends, family and colleagues. While they universally
agree that Engelbart is extremely gentle and kind, they also describe
him as "single-minded," "bullheaded," and, at times, a "control freak."
Explains Andy van Dam, who credits Engelbart with inspiring his
pioneering work in hypermedia, the use of graphics and text on
computers, "He's not hostile, but he's going to do it his way. This is
the hallmark of a visionary - they have this huge internal compass and
they're going to sail in that direction, the weather be damned."

Futurist Saffo adds: "It's not so much that people overlooked Doug but
that they studiously tried to ignore him because his ideas made them
uncomfortable."

"It's not so much that people overlooked Doug but that they studiously
tried to ignore him because his ideas made them uncomfortable."

Paul Saffo
Institute for the Future
Engelbart's unwillingness to bend was in evidence when he met Steve Jobs
for the first time in the early 1980s. It was 15 years since Engelbart
had invented the computer mouse and other critical components for the
personal computer, and Jobs was busy integrating them into his
Macintosh.

Apple Computer Inc.'s hot-shot founder touted the Macintosh's
capabilities to Engelbart. But instead of applauding Jobs, who was
delivering to the masses Engelbart's new way to work, the father of
personal computing was annoyed. In his opinion, Jobs had missed the most
important piece of his vision: networking. Engelbart's 1968 system
introduced the idea of networking personal computer workstations so
people could solve problems collaboratively. This was the whole point of
the revolution.

"I said, 'It [the Macintosh] is terribly limited. It has no access to
anyone else's documents, to e-mail, to common repositories of
information,' " recalls Engelbart. "Steve said, 'All the computing power
you need will be on your desk top.' "

"I told him, 'But that's like having an exotic office without a
telephone or door.' " Jobs ignored Engelbart. And Engelbart was baffled.

"We'd been using electronic mail since 1970 [over the government-backed
ARPA network, predecessor to the Internet]. But both Apple and Microsoft
Corp. ignored the network. You have to ask 'Why?' " He shrugs his
shoulders, a practiced gesture after 30 frustrating years, then recounts
the story of Galileo, who dared to theorize that the Earth circles the
sun, not vice versa. "Galileo was excommunicated," notes Engelbart.
"Later, people said Galileo was right." He barely pauses before adding,
"I know I am right."
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from:
http://www.mercurycenter.com/svtech/news/special/engelbart/part3.htm

Debunking the legend of the mouse
The first time I heard about Doug Engelbart I was confused. The
invitation for "Engelbart's Unfinished Revolution," a daylong symposium
in December at Stanford University, promoted the computer scientist as
the inventor of the computer mouse.

"That can't be right," I told my husband. "The mouse was invented at
Xerox PARC."

That's the story I'd been told since arriving in Silicon Valley. The
legend goes like this: In 1979, Steve Jobs was touring Xerox Corp.'s
cutting-edge Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) when he spotted a version
of the mouse. He refined the idea and used it in Lisa, forerunner of the
Macintosh.

What's left out of the story is that the mouse and a multitude of other
personal computing firsts spotted by Jobs on that Xerox PARC tour
actually came from Engelbart's lab at the Stanford Research Institute
(SRI). The ideas were brought to PARC by Engelbart researchers who
started migrating over in the early '70s.

"People say, 'Oh, you invented the mouse? You were at Xerox PARC.' And I
tell them, 'No, I was at SRI.' "

Douglas Engelbart
The symposium, organized by Saffo and co-hosted by the Institute for the
Future and Stanford University Libraries, whetted my interest in
Engelbart's work. I called him and asked for an interview.

Hesitantly, he agreed to let me tag along and observe a typical
Engelbart morning. And so, at 7 a.m., post-gym, Engelbart and I are
sitting in his frigid home office. When I point out that a window is
open, Engelbart looks sheepish. "I opened it last summer and forgot to
shut it."

I bring up the Xerox PARC legend. "Yeah, I bump into that story a lot,"
he confirms matter-of-factly. "People say, 'Oh, you invented the mouse?
ou were at Xerox PARC.' And I tell them, 'No, I was at SRI.' "

Engelbart checks the morning e-mail at hom

[CTRL] The Roots of American Government . . .

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.npl.com/~tkrell/writings/bible/american-heritage.html
http://www.npl.com/~tkrell/writings/bible/american-heritage.html">The
Roots of American Government
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I, personally, am more deist than theist, MHO. FYI.
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The Roots of American Government

A survey of the religious foundations of our democracy

Tim A. Krell
Humanities 215
March 3, 1993

Copyright © 1993-1997 Tim A. Krell. All rights reserved.


Introduction

"A nation which does not remember what it was yesterday, does not know
what it is today, nor what it is trying to do. We are trying to do a
futile thing if we do not know where we came from or what we have been
about." --Woodrow Wilson

Americans, as a whole, know embarrassingly little about their own
heritage. In these modern times, history is considered boring by many, a
waste of time. Most see it as something one must endure while in school,
but quickly forget as they get on with "real life." Americans would far
rather make history than read about it--besides, what happened back in
colonial times doesn't really apply to what is happening in the world
today. Or does it?

Most of us can name the "founding fathers," but few of us can give more
than sketchy details as to their lives, their beliefs, and their
feelings toward what America should be. These fathers of democracy would
probably be shocked to see the apathy of Americans toward their heritage
and culture. And they would likely have much to say about the direction
our country is proceeding.

Our forefathers may not be living with us today, but their words are
still alive and well. By examining their ideas, thoughts, and
philosophies, we can get a better picture about our own heritage. To do
so is not a matter of trivial importance; for as we discover the roots
of our country, therein we find the soul of our nation.

Let us then look to our past and examine the religious foundations of
our democracy.





In God We Trust

"The only assurance of our nation's safety is to lay our foundation in
morality and religion." --Abraham Lincoln

How many of us have actually taken the time to look closely at the back
side of a dollar bill. Most of us are too busy spending them to ever
stop and examine the great symbolism imprinted upon every dollar bill.
Beneath the majestic "THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" and sandwiched
between two symbols lie the words "IN GOD WE TRUST." To the left and
right of these words lie the Great Seal of the United States. On the
seal are inscribed the words "Annuit Cœptis" ("God has favored the
undertaking") and "Novus Ordo Seclorum" ("a new order of nation was thus
launched.") The Great Seal also includes a pyramid, which represents the
thirteen original colonies topped by the all-seeing eye of God
surrounded by a cloud of glory, symbolizing the protecting Divine
Presence.

Though it was the last half-century that brought the words "in God we
trust" to U.S. currency, its presence serves as a reminder of the
uniqueness of our nation's founding. America is one of the only
societies in the history of the world based upon the God of the Bible.
The Pilgrims who came to America in 1620 did not come merely because
they wanted freedom of worship. They were far from religious refugees
who just wanted a place where they could be themselves. The Pilgrims'
own words from the famous "Mayflower Compact" tell it all: "Having
undertaken for the glory of God, and advancement of the Christian Faith,
and the honour of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first
colony in the northern Part of Virginia; do by these Presents, solemnly
and mutually in the Presence of God and one of another, covenant and
combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better
Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid; And by
Virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal Laws,
Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall
be thought most meet and convenient for the General good of the Colony;
unto which we promise all due Submission and Obedience."(1)

These words told not just of their reasons for coming to America, but
also outlined a form of government which would be a precursor to the
eventual government of the United States.





One Nation Under God

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be
thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction
in the minds of the people, that these liberties are the gift of God?"
--Thomas Jefferson

Our nation, from the beginning, was steeped in its belief in the God of
the Bible. We know that our founding fathers themselves had strong
religious beliefs which guided their actions and decisions. And even
today, remnants of this belief

[CTRL] Charley Reese: "...classic symptoms of the sociopath....."

[Peter L. Sroufe]

Folks, Charley makes the point at:
http://www.magicnet.net/~rtewmuch/opinions/liar2.html
 
I'm not anti-government!I'm anti-corrupt 
government!NEVER FORGET the Waco Massacre of April, 1993!Federal 
Government defined: "a benefit/subsidy protection 
racket!"Visit me at:http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htmThe 
Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government**SOCIALISM IS THE 
ENEMY OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM!**Democracy=ChaosRepublic=Order
Liberal=Socialist=Facist
 
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[CTRL] OEN 2/23/99

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe
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Spy vs. Spy

Ritter Says the CIA Was with UN in Iraq for Years

Spy placement started in 1992

WASHINGTON -- The CIA began placing American spies among U.N. weapons
inspectors in Iraq only a year after the end of the Persian Gulf war of
1991 and worked closely with the United Nations to organize the
inspections, a former arms inspector says.
The former inspector, Scott Ritter, said in a new book that he and a
senior CIA official operating under an assumed name had planned some of
the largest and most complex inspections undertaken by the United
Nations and that the United Nations inspection teams had included "CIA
paramilitary covert operatives."

He said a coup attempt against President Saddam Hussein of Iraq in June
1996 coincided with the presence of a U.N. inspection team that included
nine CIA officials. Ritter, who does not provide documentation for all
of his conclusions and who has been criticized repeatedly by the Clinton
administration, speculated in his book that the intelligence agency
might have orchestrated the timing.

While Ritter praised the agency's employees as "the kind of people you
want around you in a difficult situation," the book, "Endgame," supports
the Iraqi allegation that the United Nations inspections teams were
riddled with American spies almost from the start. Saddam has accused
Ritter of being one of the chief spies, but Ritter has denied that.

U.S. officials have acknowledged that the CIA gave assistance to the
United Nations inspections program and provided specialists to work on
the inspections teams. But Ritter makes clear that the agency's
involvement was far more extensive -- and began earlier -- than
previously reported.

The book, scheduled for publication in April by Simon & Schuster, is
harshly critical of the Clinton administration and especially of
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. She is depicted as having fought
strenuously last year to have Ritter removed from leading an arms
inspection team because he was considered too aggressive in dealing with
the Iraqis.

Albright has dismissed Ritter's criticism in the past, insisting that he
"doesn't have a clue" about American policy toward Iraq. The CIA and the
United Nations Special Commission on Iraq, or Unscom, which is
responsible for the inspection teams, said they had no immediate comment
on the book. Galley proofs of the book were obtained on condition that
the source not be identified.

The Defense Department, which demanded only last week that Ritter turn
over a copy of the book for a security review before publication, would
not comment Monday on whether it was considering legal action to block
distribution.

In the book, Ritter provides a detailed description of his work for the
United Nations, which began in 1991 and ended last summer when he
resigned in part in protest over what he described as the Clinton
administration's meddling in the work of the inspectors.

In repeated interviews since his resignation, Ritter has alleged that
the administration hindered the arms inspections out of fear of direct
confrontations with Iraq.

Ritter says in the book that the CIA became actively involved in
inspections in 1992, the year after the United Nations began weapons
inspections in the search for evidence of chemical and biological
weapons in Iraq.

In the book, he says that he and a senior CIA official -- identified in
the book by a pseudonym, Moe Dobbs -- worked closely together "to plan
the operational and intelligence support for the largest and most
complex inspections ever undertaken by Unscom."

Ritter said that beginning in the spring of 1992, "Dobbs and his men
provided seasoned personnel who could operate vehicles, organize
logistics, run communications -- simply put, the kind of people you want
around you in a difficult situation."

The agency played its largest role, he said, in an inspection in June
1996, when nine "CIA paramilitary covert operators" were placed on a
team seeking to inspect compounds maintained by the elite Iraqi
Republican Guards. The compounds were believed to be hiding evidence of
Iraq's programs to build chemical and biological weapons.

The Iraqis tried to block the inspection, resulting in a standoff that
lasted several days and brought swift condemnation of Iraq by the United
Nations.

That same month, Iraqi dissidents made a coup attempt against Saddam.
The coup failed, and Ritter said he later became suspicious of the
timing of the coup attempt and of the presence of an Unscom inspection
team that included several of the agency's employees.

"There was no proof of Dobbs' involvement, but there was a strong set of
coincidences," he said. "The inspection was directed almost exclusively
at Special Republican Guard sites; the coup plotters were from some of
the same units we were trying to inspect."

While working for the United Nations, Ritter, a f

[CTRL] The Fishman Affidavit

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/home.html
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/home.html">Church of
Scientology International v. Fishman  
-
Many embedded links.
Om
K
-
This is the Fishman Affidavit

This homepage is approved of by court.

It has thereby become the world's first legal Fishman Homepage. See the
verdict of the lawsuit I got on account of this homepage.
This is the famous Fishman Affidavit. To explain why is has become so
famous, I'll give you some more information. And please take a look at
the articles, letters, subpoena, defense &c concerning the Dutch Protest
 as well. And while you're at it, you might also care to take a look at
Steven Fishman's own homepage too.

The Church of Scientology (or: CoS; or: Cof$ as some of their opponents
call it) sells its followers expensive courses which, if students study
them carefully, are supposed to set them free ('clear' them). A former
CoS-follower, Fishman, was brought before court because he commited
several crimes in order to get the money to pay for these courses.
Scientology urged him to get the money any which way he could. They also
assigned him to kill somebody, and failing that, ordered him to commit
suicide.

When Fishman had to testify in court, he used parts of
Scientology-documents to prove he had been brainwashed by the Church.
These Scientology documents thereby became public material: anybody
could go to the court library and read them. The Church, fearing that
its sacred secrets would be revealed, had some of their people going to
the library every day to lend these documents, thereby preventing other
people (read: non-Scientologists) to read them. Nevertheless, the
Fishman Affidavit got copied (it was also available through the clerk of
the court, for a mere $36.50) and has been travelling on Internet ever
since.

The funny thing is, when you read the document, you'll just see a bunch
of gibberish. Apart from the instructions of how to treat
non-Scientologists - almost every means is allowed to silence them;
lying is common sense; cheating is part and parcel - there's just this
silly and badly written science-fiction tale about Xenu who controls all
of us people; except (of course) the few Scientologist who managed to
'clear' themselves. Well, L. Ron Hubbard was an sf-author, but not a
very good one (and jeez, I happen to like the genre).

But the real story is that Scientology does not want their followers to
know what's in store for them: they forbid everybody to read this
material until they've done lots of courses, stating that it would kill
those who are not yet ready for it; but more probably because people may
stop believing Scientology once they've read this lousy sf stuff. Also,
according to CoS, their followers may never what's in store for them.
And of course Scientlogy asks their followers massive amounts of money
for the privilege of reading this.

To the best of my knowledge, the files here contains nothing but a
court-document. Indeed it does include some material that is copyrighted
by RTC; but as that was included in the court-document, they may be
published as part of that document. In case somebody shows me that I
included non-court materials (preferably by sending me a court-stamped
copy of the original document), I will most certainly remove those parts
of the material presented here.
Of course I would never want to publish copyrighted material of RTC
other than that made public by the court. I am am thoroughly aware of
the importance of copyright and copyright laws, and I do respect them.

Scientology does not argue with people who do not agree with them. They
prefer to harass, start crazy lawsuits, have people followed by private
detectives, and generally intimidate them. They do not sue in order to
win; they sue in order to intimidate and harass. (See especially Exhibit
B in the Fisman Affidavit: On Control and Lying) Currently, they are
waging a war against Internet: trying to remove newsgroups, cancelling
messages, forging messages, raiding providers. Their motto is: 'Never
defend, always attack' and they are bent on ruining people who criticize
them.

Scientology has ordered various raids on providers or computersystems
from which documents exposing Scientology were available; most notably
FactNet, a group of people who are putting together an on-line archive
about Scientology. In Holland they raided XS4ALL (where one of the
users, Fonss, had a copy of the Fishman Affidavit on his homepage) and
ordered XS4ALL to remove it. XS4ALL refused to do so, stating that the
content of people's homepage is of no concern to them and that they are
not responsible for what their client put there. Fonss voluntarily
(well, what would you do if you knew the Church was after you?) removed
the Fishman Affidavit but provided a link on his page to another place
where it could be obtained.

Ever since, the Fishman Affidavit is popping up everywhere. It's a
dragon: when you cut one head 

Re: [CTRL] Yev Gotta Laugh ?? aka 'not for the squeamish'

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 2/23/99 6:23:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>Andrew,
>
>Based on your story, I strongly suggest that you start using drugs.
>500mg's of Thorazine every thirty seconds is probably suitable for
>a lunatic like you. If that doesn't work, become a born again
>Christian.
>At least that way your insanity would be understood in a religious
>context.
>
>No more LSD. It's bad for you.
>And don't hitch hike.

Please, this type of rhetoric isn't helpful. Let us please be civil.
Om
K

-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] MELATONIN and Lizard Biochemistry [academic quote]

[Andrew Hennessey]

 -Caveat Lector-

>Go back to school, and study basic biology, zoology, and physiology...

>June

Excuse me, you are both wrong and  rude.

From: The International Student Edition [5]
  THE PRINCIPLES OF BIOCHEMISTRY by White, Handler and Smith
  pub McGraw-Hill Kogakusha ltd

Chapter 47 page  ... refers ...
THE PINEAL GLAND - MELATONIN.

The pineal gland is a small structure, shaped like a pine cone, situated
between the cerebral hemispheres of the mammalian brain. Until recent
times, the actions of the organ were little understood. Isolation and
characterisation of melatonin from the pineal initiated a new era since the
compound was found to affect skin pigmentation in amphibia and to inhibit
the development of gonadal function in young animals as well as the action
of gonadotrophins in mature animals [page 1121]
Melatonin reverses the darkening effect of MSH on the skin of amphibia by
stimulating aggregation rather than dispersal of melanin granules within
melanocytes, causing lightening of skin colour.
Melatonin synthesis occurs from tryptophan via hydroxylation and
decarboxylation to form serotonin [page 672]. Acetylation and methylation
of seotonin yields melatonin.
This synthesis is controlled by epinephrine via the stimulatory action of
the latter on adenylate cyclase of pineal cells and a subsequent
stimulation of protein kinase.

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Re: [CTRL] Hyposcrisy IN on Farah[CTRL] Who is Joseph Farah?

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 2/23/99 5:35:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I forgot to add that
>
>it's the book La Popessa that tells about Cardinal Pacelli (future Pope Pius
>
>XII) coming to the USA to go to Detroit and order Fr. Coughlin to shut down.
>

=
And like, I have stated, the cardinal came after Spivak had blown the
Coughlin's scam public.  Coughlin was a nazi stooge, a hypocrite priest and a
traitor to his country.  I'll take Smedley any day.


>
>If the Holocaust was discussed, I'd probably make a few posts and move on to
>
>other things ---

=
Go for it.
=

>but in light of your views on abortion I more understand
>
>why this list is more lenient of the nurevs than the Hawks. I just find it
>
>humorous that a Conspiracy list would limit discussion on any of the raging
>
>issues of the day that deal with potential deception of the masses on
>
>important issues. . . . You don't think repeated posts about humans (or
>
>human forms) morphing into reptiles, especially while the sleep -- can't
>
>concentrate then, you know, --- begs for some comment when other issues
>
>revolving around historical issues are banned?

=
Your point is? If you have something to say on the holocaust, please post.
=

>
>
>
>Who's dividing the populace with abortion -- I mean, what are the real big
>
>important issues that we're being diverted from by being force-focused on
>
>the issue of whether the state can legislate

=
Well, gee, I just can't think of any group that would wish to divide our
population and then use the following confusion to conspire and collude
against our personal sovereignty. Can you? Probably, just some wacko
conspiracy theory. Been reading to much Machiavelli, I guess.

Divert our attention from any big issues,like trashing our constitution, the
private control of our money  the massive importation of drugs by secret
societies with help from our intel and military, . . . naw who would do that?

Again, Jim, what is your point?

Om
K

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[CTRL] Yev Gotta Laugh ?? so here's my CV

[Andrew Hennessey]

 -Caveat Lector-

here's the refutation of this guys rabid attack upon my life and
name and story of my sister Avril - its my CV

>Based on your story, I strongly suggest that you start using drugs.
>500mg's of Thorazine every thirty seconds is probably suitable for
>a lunatic like you. If that doesn't work, become a born again
>Christian.
>At least that way your insanity would be understood in a religious
>context.
>
>No more LSD. It's bad for you.
>And don't hitch hike.

Well thanks for the attack - it makes you sound like you're really making
a point there - I mean, on a conspiracy theory research list, there obviously
aren't any conspiracies to talk about.
And based on that diagnosis of 'lunacy' then - here's my CV
why, this CV is either a lie because a 'lunatic' couldn't be that good or
you [with respect] 'are an asshole talking SHITE.'

Andrew  T.  Hennessey
24/2  Burgess Street D.O.B
14/04/57

EDUCATION 1. 8 O' Grades, 5 Highers, 1 SYS
[1969-1975]
 Social Problems of the East Arctic Eskimo
EDUCATION 2. HND in BIOLOGY   [1976-1978] some distinctions.
 Aggression in Man, Innate or Learned
 Ecological aspects of Heavy Metal pollution
Open University Foundation Course Social Science
[84]
Private Course Philosophy of Science/Logic 1
[90]
  Training Courses in Utility Software Packages
[86-95]

EXPERIENCE : SCIENCES .
[76] Dept of Agriculture and Fisheries : National Grass Trials :
Lab/Field
[77] Central Microbiology Laboratory : Diagnostic tests for NHS :
Lab
[79] National Museum of Antiquities : Archaeological Conservation :
Lab
[80] Institute of Terrestrial Ecology :  Tropical Reforestation Project :
 Lab
[82-83] British Geological Survey :  Petrological Database :
Lab/Clerical
[84] Scottish Agricultural College :  Crop Clinic : support
worker/Clerical
[97] A.I. Research reviewed by: European Space Agency,  British Telecom, IBM

EXPERIENCE:SERVICE.
[86-88] Employment Service : Management Services/Performance Measurement:
statistics and computing
[89-92] Employment Service : Employment Consultant, Adviser on Services
[93-96] Employment Service : Disability Services, Administration.

EXPERIENCE:ARTS.
[69-82] Edinburgh Highland Reels and Strathspey Society/Fiddlers Rallies
[82-97] Touring Professional Folk/Rock  groups and Ceilidh Bands
Various Prizes, awards, commendations and Airplay. Eg. 1982, BBC; 1990/6
[78-97] Several Festival presentations of self penned and composed shows,
in music, verse and song.  Produced and directed, and sound engineered 5
original albums.
[69-present] Fiddle, Viola, Mandolin, Whistle, Bodhran, Percussion, Vocals
Books of original Compositions
[80-present] various unpublished Manuscripts from poetry to Fantasy Novels.
[80-present] Paintings of acceptable standards in Oil and watercolours
exhibited Open Gate 96.
[82-present] taken various workshops and give individual Fiddle tuition
[97] Music Agency business for Bands,  2 New Gaming Systems
   Comedy script for BBC TV, New Games Software Project,
   Public Speaking, Prep of Philosophy MSS for publication.

[98] Relaunch of Solan Company & Global Internet Marketing
   4 Trance/Techno albums, 3 Folk Albums
   Lothlorien Enterprise - general science presentation of GUT
   The Fife Folk Rock Band/ Tours & Festivals
   Tarot Consultancy at Public Meetings,
   Launch of North Star Independent Studio, and;
   Solan Global Foundry record label.
   Debut of Trance/Techno Act. [electronic music]

EXPERIENCE:RESEARCH.
[85-95]  Research into Unifying Theory, Formal Theory with checked
Completeness Proofs, A.I /Logic Programming Specifications, Natural Law,
Philosophy of Science, Maths, Mind, demonstrating alternative models for
Particle Physics and Philosophy of Mind, - presents a New Paradigm in the
Philosophy of Science.

OTHER INTERESTS:

[80-present]  Lectured on various topics connected with Strange Phenomenon
[93] Invented new type of MIDI instrument - currently under development.
[76- present] Ancient Symbolism, Ethnology, Archaeology, Mysticism,
[95] 2 years of study in Contemporary Ethnology under world renowned
   Expert.
[96] Founder and secretary of the World Transformation Research Group
[97] 2hr show for American Coast to Coast Radio as expert on UFO's
   Reporter for Beyond Boundaries magazine [Texas]

[GENERAL] Cinema [futurism], Internet debate, Soccer for United Nations
team, Walking, Chess in East of Scotland League, Hockey for Scottish
Leagues, Seat on the National Council of The Theosophical Society Scotland,
Scottish Knights Templar, Lapidary and Silverwork. Networking with Regional
and Global Groups, responsible for TS Multi-media Education Unit.


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[CTRL] Fwd: Usurers Line Up to Buy Congress

[Kris Millegan]

 "Exempt from state usury laws, check cashing outlets are making big
profits by offering short-term loans at more than 390 percent interest per
year."


Legalizing Payday Loans Mulled

By JOHN HENDREN
.c The Associated Press

When Toby McKenzie wanted states to pass new laws endorsing ``payday loans''
at high interest rates, he and his colleagues in the check cashing industry
got out their own checkbooks.

McKenzie started at home in Tennessee. His family donated $33,200 to
lawmakers' campaigns over three years. He gave $5,000 to Gov. Donald
Sundquist's inaugural committee and later hired one of the governor's top
aides. His wife joined a prestigious lobbying firm as a partner. Last year, he
and his wife gave $130,000 to the Republican Party.

In 1997, Tennessee became the 19th state this decade to make check cashing
businesses exempt from its usury laws, allowing check cashing outlets to make
short-term loans at what amounts to more than 390 percent interest per year.

A similar strategy of campaign contributions and aggressive lobbying has
prepared the way to legality for payday lenders in many states -- despite
criticism from consumer advocates who say the business preys on the poor, the
ignorant and the desperate.

Payday loans work like this: You want money today, but payday is a week or two
away. You write a check dated for your payday and give it to a check cashing
outlet. You get your money, less a fee. In two weeks, the check casher cashes
your check or lets you pay another fee to renew the loan for another two
weeks.

In 18 more states, as in Tennessee where a temporary law allowing payday loans
expires this year, the check cashing industry is currently seeking to change
laws that forbid their unique brand of triple-digit loans.

``They hired a Noah's Ark of lobbyists,'' recalled Tennessee state Sen. Steve
Cohen, who counted 10 lobbyists for the industry as the Legislature debated
whether to legalize payday loans.

``They hired a black lobbyist to get black votes,'' Cohen said. ``If we'd have
had a transsexual they would have hired a transsexual lobbyist.''

Payday lenders and their families donated at least $105,750 to Tennessee
lawmakers' campaigns from October 1996 through October 1998. While McKenzie
was the big giver, Check Into Cash owner W. Allan Jones and his family gave
$29,300. The Tennessee Cash Advance Association gave $23,300 and members gave
$15,200 separately.

Those figures don't include large, unregulated ``soft money'' gifts to the
Republican and Democratic parties.

Jones' company and McKenzie's subsidiary, National Cash Advance, make loans
from the Carolinas to California. The two industry pioneers and their wives,
who live in Tennessee, contributed as far away as Florida; all four gave the
maximum allowable $500 to Gov. Jeb Bush. McKenzie gave another $5,000 to the
GOP in Florida, where payday lending is legal but remains under fire from
critics and law enforcement officials who say some companies are charging more
than the 10 percent allowed each time a loan is renewed.

One group, the California Check Cashers Association, spent $79,135 lobbying
California lawmakers in 1996, the year the state passed a law allowing and
regulating payday lending.

Lobbyists for payday lenders say their contributions are legal and typical for
any business group trying to influence legislation.

``There is not an industry in any democratic society that does not represent
itself in government bodies,'' said Anthony Simone of the payday lenders'
group Community Financial Services Association, defending the contributions.

Critics argue that powerful lobbyists and big contributions -- not consumers'
best interests -- are what changed state laws.

In Tennessee, Brian McGuire of the consumer advocacy group Tennessee Citizen
Action, said he tried to fight the payday loan legislation. But it was an
uneven match, some observed.

``Legislatures work pretty well if you have good lobbyists on both sides,''
said Tennessee state Sen. Roy Herron. ``Where the system breaks down is where
you have a crew of highly effective and capable lobbyists on one side and only
five-and-a-half million silent Tennesseans on the other side. Then the result
is not always justice.'''

Beyond giving money, payday lenders have also hired well-connected former
politicians.

In Louisiana, they hired the law firm of former U.S. Sen. Russell Long. In
Tennessee, McKenzie's company made a top executive out of Sundquist's aide,
Chip Saltsman. He's now also chairman of the Tennessee Republican Party.

In Kentucky, Steve Beshear, a former lieutenant governor and attorney general,
ran for the U.S. Senate in 1996, saying, ``Congress is owned, body and soul,
by special interest groups.''

After he lost, he became the top lobbyist for Kentucky's payday loan industry.

His employer, the Kentucky Deferred Deposit Association, spent $102,539 on
lobbying from September 1997 through April 1998, the month the law was
changed.

Beshear dec

[CTRL] Fwd: Byzantines and Khazars

[Kris Millegan]

Subject: Re: Khans of the Khazars and Byzantine emperors
From: Chris Pitt Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, Feb 21, 1999 07:32 EST
Message-id: 

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes
>
>In an article posted here 27 October 1998 (and copied and pasted from
>dejanews) Chris Chennet wrote:
>>In article <7129jo$flq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Baldwin) wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> To my knowledge, the known genealogy of the Khazar kings is completely
>>> isolated, and not connected with any other dynasty.  I have seen books
>>> which briefly give their genealogy, but none of them mentioned either
>>> Menu Morat of the Bihar Khazars or his supposed Hungarian connection.
>> >In addition, I am not even sure that the "Bihar Khazars" of Moncreiffe
>> >are the same group as the well known Khazars.
>>
>
>>Not quite completely isolated -- two Byzantine emperors (Justinian II and
>>Constantine V) married Khazar princesses.  However, the main source of
Khazar
>>royal genealogy, the letter of king Joseph (quoted in the Koestler book
>>IIRC), only covers the period after the version to Judaism, while these two
>>marriages occured a few generations earlier, so it is difficult to link them
>>to the later line.  Joseph's letter gives no marriages, just the descent
>>line, and no dates.
>
>The marriage of Justinian II must have been sometime between 695 and
>705 during his exile after his first deposition.   Constantine V
>married an Irene, a daughter of a Khan of Khazar.  I've no other
>nearby dates so what follows is guesswork:  C~ V's grandson, C~ VI,
>was put into a marriage deal with Rotrude, dau of Charlemagne, by his
>mother (the notorious Irene) in 781 (THAT'S A DEFINITE DATE), when he
>(C~ VI) was about 12 years old.  This would place the marriage of Leo
>IV to the said notorious Irene at not later than about 768.  Supposing
>C~ V to have been 20 years old when he married the dau of the Khan, he
>would have to have been born before about 748,   That would be 43-53
>years after the marriage of Justinian II, which would suggest that the
>Khans whose daughters married Byzantine emperors were two generations
>apart, although it wouldn't be too difficult to telescope the
>chronology down to a single generation apart.
>Now, supposing that there was a regular male succession of the Khans
>of the Khazars, two alternative  tentative outlines can be
>constructed:
>
>1 Unknown Khan I
>   2.  Daughter m. Justinian II
>   2.  Unknown Khan II
>3. Irene m. Constantine V
>
>   OR
>
>1 Unknown Khan I
>   2.  Daughter m. Justinian II
>   2.  Son
>3  Unknown Khan II
> 4.  Irene m. Constantine V
>
>If one of the above outlines (or a better alternative) could be filled
>in with real persons, it would provide an interesting link between the
>otherwise-apparently-unconnected Heraclean and Isaurian/Syrian
>dynasties.
>
>Can anyone connect the dots?
>
>Bryant Smith
>Austin, Texas

Justinian's marriage was to the sister of the then ruling Khan (between
695 and 705), and Constantine's marriage was in 733 to the daughter of
the Khan. So it is not inconceivable that the same Khan could have been
involved, and they are probably unlikely to have been more than a
generation apart. Koestler says the Khan whose sister married Justinian
was called Busir or Bazir. He does not give a source for this statement.
The Khan who adopted Judaism, apparently around 740, is said in Joseph's
letter, a late source, to be called Bulan, and to be the grandfather of
the Obadiah with whom Joseph's genealogy begins.

Presumably for the names of Khazar Khans at this date we are dependent
on stray references in Byzantine and Arab sources. 200 years later,
according to Ibn Fadlan, Khazaria had a dual monarchy, like early 20th
century Nepal. If that situation existed in the early 700s it would
further complicate matters, since the sources might not distinguish
between them.


--
Chris Pitt Lewis

[CTRL] Fwd: Super-Germ

[Kris Millegan]

'Supergerm' Kills Hong Kong Woman


.c The Associated Press

HONG KONG (AP) -- A supergerm that has proven resistant to one of the most
potent antibiotics available has killed a Hong Kong woman, officials said
today, raising fears that more such germs could develop as doctors continue to
misuse or overuse antibiotics.

The middle-aged woman died last year at Queen Mary Hospital after becoming
infected with a strain of staphylococcus aureus bacteria, or staph, despite
two weeks of intensive antibiotics treatment, a spokeswoman from the official
Hospital Authority said.

Speaking on customary condition of anonymity, the spokeswoman confirmed a
report published today in the South China Morning Post. The hospital declined
to reveal the patient's identity.

The woman, who also suffered from cancer, was one of a few known cases in the
world in which staph proved resistant to vancomycin, an antibiotic known as
``the silver bullet,'' which doctors use as the last resort to treat
infections when all other antibiotics fail.

``We are getting into the terminal stage. It is very dangerous; the bacteria
have broken the last defense,'' Yuen Kwok-yung, a microbiologist at the
hospital and the University of Hong Kong, was quoted as telling the newspaper.

For several years, doctors have been warning of the emergence of drug-
resistant bacteria. Bacteria become more deadly as they mutate to survive
increasing potent drugs.

Yuen told the Post that a decade earlier, Hong Kong doctors discovered a case
of streptococcus pneumonia that was resistant to penicillin, but now 70
percent of the cases here are resistant.

Many doctors fear the time is coming when some patients will have no
alternative antibiotics to turn to -- for the first time since antibiotics hit
the market in the 1950s.

Part of the problem is an overwillingness on the part of doctors and patients
to use antibiotics for routine illnesses that could be cured by people's
natural immune systems, which makes the medicines less effective.

Patients ``should not seek antibiotics for a quick cure,'' Yuen said.

Staph, a virulent bacterium that lives on human skin, is a common cause of
infections. Many people have the germ, and it's usually harmless.

But the germ can occasionally enter the body through wounds and cause serious
infections of the skin, soft tissues, bones and joints. It spreads through
direct contact and can cause pneumonia and fatal bacteremia, or bacterial
infection of the blood, which reportedly killed the woman in Hong Kong.

[CTRL] Fwd: Now, Forfeiture for Non-Drug-Related Charges

[Kris Millegan]

NYC Seizes Cars in DWI Crackdown

NEW YORK (AP) -- A city crackdown on drunken drivers began with the seizure of
at least two cars.

New York is the first municipality in the nation to seize the vehicles of
motorists arrested on drunken driving charges as a way to reduce the number of
deaths on roadways.

Motorists with a blood alcohol level of 0.10 percent -- the state's legal
limit for driving -- or higher will have their vehicles seized on the spot.
While the motorist faces prosecution in criminal court, the vehicle seizure
will be part of a separate proceeding in civil court under state forfeiture
laws.

And because civil proceedings require only a preponderance of evidence for a
verdict -- rather than guilt beyond a reasonable doubt -- motorists acquitted
of drunken driving in criminal court may still lose their cars in civil court.

Civil libertarians have attacked the new policy as excessive and vowed to
challenge it in court. Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said he is confident the plan
will hold up in court.

One car was seized Sunday and one today. Officer Theresa Farello, a police
department spokeswoman, could not immediately explain why a car was seized
Sunday evening, 1 1/2 hours before the program was to start at midnight.

Re: [CTRL] suppression in tokyo of chinese massacre

[John Szocik]

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Could you please provide the title of the book in question?
Thanks !
JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] Yev Gotta Laugh ?? aka 'not for the squeamish'

[Teo One Thousand]

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In a message dated 2/23/99 2:12:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< My name is Andrew Hennessey. >>

Well, Mr. Hennessey, please tell us more of your story, but beware there are
many here (myself included) who will hold your feet to the fire when it comes
to what is normally regarded as "far-out" claims.  Just be aware that some
will try and attack you for what you say, either not believing you or thinking
that you are deliberately trying to spread disinformation or misinformation to
muddy the waters.  If you can handle a little backlash then please continue.
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Re: [CTRL] UNITED STATES CIVILIAN POLICE FORCE - HAITI

[Teo One Thousand]

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In a message dated 2/22/99 11:58:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< And who is DynCorp?


 sno0wl >>

I posted the URL for DynCorp yesterday.  It is;  http://www.dyncorp.com
They are an information technology company working with governments in
developing management solutions.  Sounds like mind control to me .  They
are affiliated with DARPA.
Teo1000

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[CTRL] Fwd: WND Hubbell The Key To Corruption

[Kris Millegan]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990223_xcsof_hubbell_ke.shtml

The direct link between Beijing espionage, millionaire drug
lords and Bill Clinton is Webster Hubbell.  In 1993, Webster
Hubbell was personally charged by Janet Reno with a Top Secret
project to tap every phone in America.  Hubbell's initial task
was to tap every phone in the U.S. government, starting with the
Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).

In February 1999, the Dept. of Justice was forced by the Freedom
of Information Act (FOIA) to release the Hubbell files.
According to the Dept. of Justice, many of the Hubbell documents
are being withheld for "national security" reasons.  In
addition, "fifteen" Hubbell documents remain in the hands of the
FBI and NSA to be reviewed prior to any release.

According to the NSA, FBI and NSC, the Hubbell files are so
sensitive that to release them today may result in charges of
treason and the death penalty.  The newly released Hubbell files
are so secret that even the code word classification level was
blacked out for "national security" reasons by the National
Security Agency (NSA), FBI, and National Security Council (NSC).

Furthermore, the Dept. of Justice was forced to admit that a
1993 letter from AT&T CEO Robert Allen to Hubbell was "destroyed
pursuant to the records destruction schedules."  This in itself
is highly suspect because this author has obtained documents
dating as far back as 1983 that were returned by the National
Security Council (NSC) - over 10 years prior to the "destroyed"
AT&T Hubbell letter.

One document released by the Justice Dept. is a March 1993
Justice Dept. memo from Stephen Colgate, Assistant Attorney
General for Administration.  Colgate's memo to Hubbell details
the Clinton officials charged with bugging every phone in
America.

According to the Colgate memo, Vice President Al Gore was to
chair a meeting with Hubbell, Reno, Commerce Secretary Ron
Brown, and Leon Panetta in March 1993.  The meeting was on the
"AT&T Telephone Security Device".

In 1992, AT&T had developed secure telephones the U.S.
government could not tap.  The Clinton administration secretly
contracted with AT&T to keep the phones off the American market.
According to Colgate, the secure phones were simply too
dangerous for American citizens.

Assistant Attorney General Colgate wrote to Hubbell "AT&T has
developed a Data Encryption Standard (DES) product for use on
telephones to provide security for sensitive conversations.  The
FBI, NSA and NSC want to purchase the first production run of
these devices to prevent their proliferation.  They are
difficult to decipher and are a deterrent to wiretaps."

In 1993, Webster Hubbell was personally tasked with the project
by Reno and Clinton.  Hubbell arranged for the entire production
run of secure AT&T phones to be secretly purchased by the Dept.
of Justice, using a slush fund supplied by confiscations from
the "drug war" to keep the buy off the general books.

Part of the secret project included re-fitting the purchased
AT&T phones with a new chip called "Clipper" developed by the
NSA at Ft. Meade, Maryland.  This chip contained a secret
"exploitable" feature allowing the government to tap the phone
conversation with a special back door key.

The project also included plans to "mandate" the Clipper chip be
installed in all American telephones.  According to the March
1993 Colgate memo to Hubbell, "FBI, NSA and NSC want to push
legislation which would require all government agencies and
eventually everyone in the U.S. to use a new public-key based
cryptography method."

The re-fitted Clipper phones were to be given to the DEA for
their line agents to use.  According to a 1993 classified White
House email from George Tenet, "Ron Brown" insisted the Commerce
Dept. be one of the "key holders" for all Clipper phones.  Thus,
the Dept. of Commerce and Ron Brown demanded direct access to
tap any phone in America.

According to highly classified documents, Webster Hubbell also
received a letter from AT&T CEO Robert Allen in October of 1993.
The AT&T letter, according to the Dept. of Justice, was
"destroyed."  However, the "control data sheet" a summary of the
AT&T letter to Hubbell survived.

According to the data sheet, Robert Allen wanted the Clinton
administration to allow AT&T to distribute a limited version of
their secure phone until the government Clipper project was
ready.

One document returned from the files of Webster Hubbell was so
classified that five pages are currently being withheld by the
NSA, FBI and NSC for "national security" reasons.  The Top
Secret cover page even has the classified code word blacked out
by the NSA.

The document, a Top Secret Jan. 1994 memo to Janet Reno from
Mark Richard, Deputy Assistant Attorney General, describes a
classified "principles" meeting of a "NSC chaired Inter-Agency
Working Group".

The Hubbell files show that in 1994 the soon-to-be-felon met
with Vice President Gore, Ron Brown, NSA Director McConnell a

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Former Temple of Set Member on Satanic Crime

[Teo One Thousand]

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Why are these people all in the intelligence side of the military?  Makes you
wonder huh.

Teo1000

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[CTRL] US sabotages GM trade treaty

[Lucio Benedetto]

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US sabotages GM trade treaty
http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/food/Story/0,2763,25560,00.html
By Jeremy Lennard in Bogota
Tuesday February 23, 1999


A treaty among 170 countries to ensure safe trade in genetically modified
organisms has been sabotaged by the United States, which believes its
business interests are threatened.
The US has refused to allow commodities like soya bean and corn, which
account for 90 per cent of the world trade in GMOs, to be included in the
negotiations. If they were included they would need to be clearly labelled
when being traded between countries, something the Americans are anxious to
avoid because it could lead to their products being boycotted.

The US action came only 24 hours before a deadline for the biosafety
negotiations in Cartagena to be completed. The US refused to bow to pressure
from the vast majority of the 170 countries present, who called for a
cautious approach to the international trade.

It is likely that a protocol will still be signed, but after working groups
failed last week to produce a consensus on a paper for the final debates,
the treaty is likely to favour free trade concerns over environmental
prudence, and play into the hands of biotech companies such as the US giants
Monsanto and Dow.

'The US is willing to threaten biodiversity in the name of short-term
profits. It wants a biotrade, not a biosafety, protocol,' said Greenpeace's
political adviser, Louise Gale. 'Over the past two years the US has flooded
the world market with unregulated and unlabelled gentically-engineered [GE]
grain. It is clear it wants to continue this practice and will sabotage any
efforts to set international rules for GE crops.'

Although the US has no formal delegation in Cartagena, it sent a powerful
lobby group of biotech company representatives. They have worked with a
handful of other countries to ride roughshod over the concerns of the
European Union and the developing world, which fears it will become a
unwitting testing ground for biotechnology.

Last week the British delegation broke ranks with its EU colleagues when it
helped to write a set of proposals strongly in favour of the US position,
and which will form the watered-down basis of any treaty signed today

The proposals essentially reduce any potential agreement to govern the trade
in genetically engineered seed, and offer few or no restrictions on the
trade in genetically engineered grain to be used in food, and other
commodities containing GMOs. If adopted, the paper will also sideline
liability concerns for another four years while freeing up trade.

Unless the majority of the countries can force their agenda at the
eleventh-hour, the right of countries to say no to the import of genetically
modified organisms will not be subject to global agreement, except for
seeds. Instead it will be reduced to a decision by individual states, which
can be contested before the World Trade Organisation.

At the same time, the rights of individual countries to insist that
genetically engineered grain, for example, be segregated from conventional
grain, and that commodities containing genetically modified organisms be
labelled, has been fudged.

The implications of a weak protocol for importer countries and the vast
majority of the developing world were demonstrated at the weekend with the
arrival of aUS grain-carrier at the nearby Caribbean port of Santa Marta.
Its cargo would be unaffected by the current proposed wording of the
protocol.

The cargo ship Abydos docked on Saturday to unload 17,000 tons of maize,
which even by the biotechnology industry's estimates could contain up to
3,500 tons of genetically engineered grain. Colombian law makes no provision
for the presence of GE grain in the shipment, and the country becomes a
passive recipient without the right of prior consultation.

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Re: [CTRL] Yev Gotta Laugh ?? aka 'not for the squeamish'

[nurev]

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Andrew Hennessey wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Some guy called Michael Estes has exercised his natural right to mete out a
> personal attack - presumably because he disagrees with the humourous
> way I deal with various Horrific Subject areas eg. the possibility
> of truth in alien carnage stories - which if true in the slightest
> is going to put my life at risk - Humour though is my way of Coping
> with Horror -
> The CTRL may be interested in some personal Biog notes - all I can say
> is that to the best of my ability and discernment - they are true, and
> will explain where I'm coming from.
>
> My name is Andrew Hennessey.
> I have pre-birth memories of choosing this life.
> I am protected by an intelligent 'humanoid' being aka 'angel'
> I have been attacked by terrifying 'black hole' energy sucking phenomena
> in my room in 1978.
> I was Benevolently abducted in 1980 by 'Zeta' types
> I have been targeted, harassed and attacked by Security Service ever since.
> I developed a Unifying Theory of Relativity with 'Free Energy' ideologies
> And  derived Tesla and Keeley theories from first principles using independent
> Knowledge, solving the Quantum and 30 other 'impossible' academic paradoxes.
> I was 'visited' by 2 men-in-black in 1985 who tried to blot these emerging
> Theories from my mind.   http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~pegasus/
> Attempts were made on my life by an individual in a hostel on 2 consecutive
> nights And the only thing I knew about it on both occasions was waking up
> whilst my Legs were already thrashing out at my attacker - my 'angel'
> having animated my body To save my life.- the man held off and compromised
> on both ocassions.
> I have seen and verified Doppelgangers in 1985
> In 1985, my sister Avril, who had worked for the United Nations Relief and
> Works Agency for Palestine, was blown up in  a gas explosion in London to
> later die.
> Before the fire service got there, she says that a man came to remove the
> tampered gas fittings.
> In Edinburgh, in 1985 a gunman followed my mother and father out into the
> countryside, and  Parked his car very nearby - he spooked my parents when
> he began looking angry and Agitated - as my father drove past - he could
> see the man trying to force a clip into a Luger.
> My mentally handicapped younger sister was also raped by a man - 1989 whose
> vehicle we traced To the English Military suburban complex of  Bath - under
> some 'upper class' triple barrelled Name - my father called in a favour in
> the police force to trace the registration.
> In 1990- 93 further action from SAS, MI5 in private, personal, and working
> situations Brought an end to my career in the Civil Service. -
> These people seriously damaged my health and career.
> In Scotland MI5 often use the nationalist excuse to target individuals. I
> worked in a public office As an employment consultant. A man introduced
> himself as Mr Wallace of 24 Burgess Street, As ex-SAS - he was a big bulky
> person  [Wallace perhaps referring to the Scottish national hero of the
> same name]
> He then proceeded to give out a very threatening monologue. I remembered
> THAT name and address. 1993
> At that time as luck would have it I moved into a rented flat at 24 Burgess
> Street, and there was indeed A Mr Wallace staying there - this guy was 5
> foot 1" and very slightly built.
> I am a professional musician - this year, a non-descript fit individual
> turned up at a music rehearsal As an unknown guest, shook my right arm with
> a martial arts akido handshake giving me a serious Injury to my elbow -
> then left immediately afterwards. I remained ignorant of the injury until I
> tried To lift something the next day - and I have been incapacitated for
> weeks.
> A woman recently showed up at my Group in Edinburgh 1998/9 mentioning
> circumstances and personal Details about me that only my deceased sister
> could have known - she claimed that she had MI6 and 'Jewish' connections
> and that my sister avril had 'arab' friends.
> I know that Avril only possessed superfluous knowledge past its sell by
> date in the year she was hit, She was only a secretary. She was also
> hideously raped, and, thrown from a 2 storey balcony in London. She
> actually survived all that, but the pains of her broken and burned body -
> she used to Be a pianist, drove her to drink - which killed her in 1996
> aged 48. Some ex-military guy was using her before she became critical.
> My phone is tapped, I even have a secret IP number with easynet - the guy
> in technical support said After getting priveleged access to my records
> 1997 'should I be talking to you'
> In 1997 a 'Zeta' hybrid materialised in my flat.
> In 1998 a Defence Intelligence Black Ops unit approached me with a view to
> 'recruitment' aka experimentation.
>
> As you can see, I have a story to tell - I have never told it before as I
> am still being targeted - maybe its time ?
>
> Andrew Hennessey
> Transformation Studies Gro

Re: [CTRL] SnoOwl: DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 02/19/99

[nurev]

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Sno0wl wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> On 21 Feb 99, , nurev wrote:
>
> >  can't believe what you are pulling here. I am really saddened by
> > your
> > response. What happened to you that you are trying to defend a rapist by
> > defaming the victim? Even if she were a working prostitute, that changes
> > nothing. What happened to you?
>
> I also believe that people are innocent until proven guilty. And wonder what kind of
> "evidence" someone might have kept preserved for two decades. Another blue dress?

Inocent until proven guilty only applies in a court of law. Not real
life.

> I happen to know several women who were once married to men, had their children,
> and were then abandoned after the divorce. These men never paid child-support, even
> claiming they had no assets. Some of these men, twenty or thirty years later, are now
> rolling clover, married to very wealthy women. Wouldn't it be wonderful if these 
>women,
> who had been forced into years of great hardship,  could go after these guys and get
> the alimony and child support that was owed them? Ask any lawyer. They will tell you
> it's way too late. That's a kind of "rape" too. And unbelievably common in our 
>society.

Oh please! That's not the " kind of rape " that happened to Juanita
Broadrick.
Clutching at straws to defend a rapist. What happened to you?

> What happened to you?
>
> sno0wl

Nothing happened to me. I don't find myself defending rapists and
political
criminals.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Use of Word: Liberal

[Jim Condit Jr.]

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At Chris's implied suggestion, I'm going to study nurev's final response
below to get a feel for high-minded, as opposed to trite and stupid,
expression of one's position. Thanks for the nudge. Jim Condit Jr.

> -Original Message-
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of nurev
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 11:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Use of Word: Liberal
>
>
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>
> > "Peter L. Sroufe" wrote:
> >
> > Folks, Have you ever wondered why the Liberals never use the word
> > Socialist to describe their Agenda??
> > Think about it!
> > There's not a damn bit of difference between a Liberal and a
> > Socialist.
> > I defy any Liberal to prove otherwise.
>
> You're an idiot.
> There are many different definitions of " liberal."
>
> Joshua2
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Pinochet Fan Club

[Jim Condit Jr.]

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We are supposed to join the Communist Allende's side because some leftwing
journalist reports some "fidgeting" when asked how many were killed? I've
been the victim of such low-life reporters on a local level, so I think I'll
pass on putting too much weight on "fidgeting." . . . do those who oppose
Pinochet for rising to the defense of his country against the Red Terror
apply the same standards to Israel's massive killing Palestinians and
Lebonese to defend their country? I've yet to see it. Maybe somebody will
prove me wrong. Jim Condit Jr.

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Re: [CTRL] Confirmation: Aliens Among Us?.

[Samatha 'Smith']

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In a message dated 99-02-22 15:14:41 EST, Mark Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

<< In closing I would definitely say that yes the Government is covering up
 > >a huge issue of alien contact and I future have reason to believe that
 > >parts of the Worlds Governments probably do have treaties with beings or
 > >races from other worlds. I also have seen many a military installation
 > >with huge underground facilities.
 > > >>

I'm fairly new to this list, so forgive me if I name a source you're all
terribly familiar with, but years ago I read Timothy Goode's, "Above Top
Secret," which makes an excellent case for collusion between world
governements to keep the UFO phenomenon under wraps.   The book is loaded with
documentation and newspaper accounts of sightings (and cover-ups) from around
the world.  It was a real eye-opener.
He's reinforced the theories from the first book with a sequel, but I
forget what it's called.  It was good, too.  The first book has been available
in every local library I've visited in the last several years.
Samantha

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[CTRL] Police State Not Needed To Fight Organized Crime

[Brian Redman]

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   Friday February 19 4:10 PM ET

Teaching The World To Tame Organized Crime

   By Evelyn Leopold

   UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Sicily plans to teach educators from around
   the world how to fight the Mafia, a move that would have brought
   laughs if not bullets a decade ago.

   ``We exported for many many years a disease,'' Palermo Mayor Leoluca
   Orlando told a news conference Thursday. ``Why not export therapy that
   comes from our experience -- experience is the name we give to our
   mistakes.''

   The occasion is a June conference in Palermo -- the Sicilian capital
   that gave the world the word ``Mafia'' -- for educators and civic
   groups to discuss how to make democracy and the rule of law work in
   their own countries.

   The meeting, from June 18-22, is sponsored by Civitas International, a
   U.S. and European-based network to promote civic education, the
   Italian and U.S. governments and some United Nations agencies,

   David Dorn, an official with the American Federation of Teachers and
   the chairman of Civitas, said he expected delegates from all
   continents, including eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union,
   where a new kind of organized crime is forming.

   Palermo was chosen to show that the struggle against crime did not
   have to take generations or involve a police state.

   The Mafia has by no means disappeared in Sicily or elsewhere and still
   controls illegal businesses, Orlando said. But it no longer dominated
   its institutions.

   ``The Mafia needs dark and silence. In Palermo we have so much light,
   so much noise,'' he said.

   ``What is correct for Palermo can be correct for any other country in
   the world. ``It is not possible to have a democratic constitution if
   organized crime gets the primacy,'' he said.

   Tourism has returned and in 1998 there were seven murders in Palermo
   compared to 200 in 1992. The Teatro Massimo Opera, Europe's largest
   classical stage, reopened after 23 years, churches were rebuilt and
   tourism has returned.

   First appointed mayor in 1985, Orlando, a law professor and member of
   the European parliament, held various posts in Sicily before becoming
   the city's first mayor chosen by a direct election in 1993.

   Orlando pointed out that Italy's U.N. ambassador, Paolo Fulci, himself
   a former Mafia fighter, was a Sicilian, adding: ''We can't all be
   perfect.''

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[CTRL] "Tainted Blood" Lawsuit May Accuse Clinton

[Brian Redman]

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   Posted at 2:35 p.m. PST Monday, February 22, 1999

   Canadians to expand tainted blood lawsuit to U.S.

   TORONTO (Reuters) - A group of Canadians infected with hepatitis C
   from blood they say was collected from Arkansas prisons will extend
   their case to the United States this week and possibly target U.S.
   President Bill Clinton in their lawsuit.

   The group of 400 Canadians filed a C$1 billion class-action claim
   against the Canadian government and two companies in late January and
   vowed at that time to expand their case south of the border.

   A spokesman for Hemophilia Ontario confirmed Monday that the group
   will now target the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the state of
   Arkansas and possibly Clinton, a former Arkansas governor.

   The spokesman said the lawsuit will be made public on Wednesday at the
   National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

   The group's lawyer, David Harvey, told a Toronto press conference in
   January that about 1,000 Canadians were exposed to tainted blood which
   was collected in U.S. prisons and then exported to Canada in the
   1980s. Harvey has questioned why plasma deemed not good enough for
   American citizens was exported north to Canada.

   The group is seeking compensation for about 1,000 Canadians infected
   with hepatitis C, a debilitating and often deadly liver disease, they
   allege came from tainted U.S. prison blood distributed in Canada
   between 1980 and 1985.

   They are also demanding an investigation into why blood collected in
   American prisons was allowed to be sold and distributed in Canada.

   Thousands of victims of tainted Canadian Red Cross blood staged angry
   protests in Canada's capital last year, forcing the government to
   agree to a C$1.1 billion compensation plan.

   The package does not cover those afflicted before 1986, however. Those
   involved in the present lawsuit said they received blood imported from
   U.S. prisons between 1980 and 1985 and are not eligible for any
   compensation.

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[CTRL] CIA Spies In Iraq

[Brian Redman]

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   Posted at 10:48 p.m. PST Monday, February 22, 1999

Book: CIA placed spies among weapon inspectors in Iraq

   BY PHILIP SHENON
   New York Times

   WASHINGTON -- The CIA began placing American spies among U.N. weapons
   inspectors in Iraq only a year after the end of the Gulf War of 1991
   and worked closely with the United Nations to organize the
   inspections, a former arms inspector says.

   The former inspector, Scott Ritter, said in a new book that he and a
   senior CIA official operating under an assumed name had planned some
   of the largest and most complex inspections undertaken by the United
   Nations and that the U.N. inspection teams had included ``CIA
   paramilitary covert operatives.''

   He said a coup attempt against President Saddam Hussein of Iraq in
   June 1996 coincided with the presence of a U.N. inspection team that
   included nine CIA officials. Ritter, who does not provide
   documentation for all of his conclusions and who has been criticized
   repeatedly by the Clinton administration, speculated in his book that
   the intelligence agency might have orchestrated the timing.

   While Ritter praised the agency's employees as ``the kind of people
   you want around you in a difficult situation,'' the book, ``Endgame,''
   supports the Iraqi allegation that the U.N. inspections teams were
   riddled with American spies almost from the start. Saddam has accused
   Ritter of being one of the chief spies, but Ritter has denied that.

   U.S. officials have acknowledged that the CIA gave assistance to the
   U.N. inspections program and provided specialists to work on the
   inspection teams. But Ritter makes clear that the agency's involvement
   was far more extensive -- and began earlier -- than previously
   reported.

   The CIA and the U.N. Special Commission on Iraq, or Unscom, which is
   responsible for the inspection teams, said they had no immediate
   comment on the book, which is scheduled for publication in April.

   The Defense Department, which demanded only last week that Ritter turn
   over a copy of the book for a security review before publication,
   would not comment on Monday on whether it was considering legal action
   to block distribution.

   Ritter resigned last summer in protest over what he described as the
   Clinton administration's meddling in the work of the inspectors out of
   fear of direct confrontations with Iraq.

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Re: [CTRL] he who pays the piper calls the tune

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 2/23/99 1:41:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< GRIMSBY -- The University of Lincolnshire and Humberside does not use any
 books by Jewish authors in its courses (Times Higher 19 ii '99). It has a
 'twinning' arrangement with Saudi Arabia and does not want to upset its Arab
 benefactors. >>

Nice to see a confirmation that super stupidity exists at such exaulted
heights.   The University might do well to purchase the best texts available
(regardless of the religious preferences of the authors) and tell its so-very-
sensitive Arabs to take a hike.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Hyposcrisy IN on Farah[CTRL] Who is Joseph Farah?

[Jim Condit Jr.]

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Dear Kris, In a nutshell - didn't crawl out from a rock, just sat down at my
computer and checked in, -- you may have me mixed up with those Reptilian
Aryans that seem to be getting a lot of play.

My Fahey / Coughlin answer is under construction --- but I did answer some
points of one of your posts against Fr. Coughlin --- I forgot to add that
it's the book La Popessa that tells about Cardinal Pacelli (future Pope Pius
XII) coming to the USA to go to Detroit and order Fr. Coughlin to shut down.

If the Holocaust was discussed, I'd probably make a few posts and move on to
other things --- but in light of your views on abortion I more understand
why this list is more lenient of the nurevs than the Hawks. I just find it
humorous that a Conspiracy list would limit discussion on any of the raging
issues of the day that deal with potential deception of the masses on
important issues. . . . You don't think repeated posts about humans (or
human forms) morphing into reptiles, especially while the sleep -- can't
concentrate then, you know, --- begs for some comment when other issues
revolving around historical issues are banned?

Who's dividing the populace with abortion -- I mean, what are the real big
important issues that we're being diverted from by being force-focused on
the issue of whether the state can legislate to allow the killing of a
certain class of human beings? IF human beings didn't come from something
very pleasurable, EVERYONE would be horrified by abortion. Let's quit
fooling ourselves. And, yes, I do speak digmatically (as you spelled it) on
this issue, and I do broadbrush all those who support active killing of the
unborn or any other class of human beings without a fair trial -- and I do
so without the slightest fear of inflicting an injustice.

What you're calling broadbrushing and bashing is an educated guess based on
what I've seen on this list, and I'm trying to make some people think -- If
the majority of posters on this list are pro-abortion and anti-eugenics,
well, to quote Popeye, "Blows me down." Jim Condit Jr.


> -Original Message-
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Kris Millegan
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 12:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hyposcrisy IN on Farah[CTRL] Who is Joseph Farah?
>
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 2/21/99 10:30:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >so get on the
> >
> >right side of this issue and quit fooling yourself into thinking
> that it's
> >
> >so "complex."   . ..  Sorry for confusing you again with Kris Mulligan --
>
> Howdy Jim,
> Crawl out from your rock again? Gee, you never answered my last
> questions. But
> here ya are popping up and spouting your dogmatic baalooney.
>
> So if'n we jist get right side of the issue them we's ok, hunh?
> And you know
> the right side, cuz your digmatic thinking says so.  Abortion is
> a designed
> issue to divide the populace. Look at the private actions of many of the
> 'designated' leaders and you will not find the actions that back-up the
> rhetoric. Abortion is fact of nature, it happens and if a group
> of people can
> use the issue to divide our society, they will and have.  Shill games for
> shallow dogmatics and ignorant fears.
>
> In a message dated 2/21/99 9:13:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >In fact,
> >
> >most people on this list (that contribute anyway) would probably be happy
> >
> >with Scaife's real agenda which is population control and
> "improving" of the
> >
> >human race through gene splicing, etc. Jim Condit Jr.
>
>
> Broad bush bashing, again?  Wrong and if you are going to make accusations
> please back them with some facts.  Your rhetoric is really quite trite,
> boring, telling and ignorant.
>
>
> In a message dated 2/21/99 9:48:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In fact, I don't have
> >
> >enough knowledge of all the Hawk wrote to totally evaluate your
> decision to
> >
> >terminate him, but the clarity of thought embodied in Hawk's
> posts, and in
> >
> >Mr. Moxley's, and in some others, are what I find sorely lacking in most
> >
> >posts on this list. Jim Condit Jr.
>
> Again, you bring your veneration of ole hypocrite hawk, and your desire to
> focus discuss on the rules of the list.
>
> Got a problem?
>
>
> In a message dated 2/21/99 9:52:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >Dear Teo -- the Reptilian post has nothing to do with WWII Holocaust
> >
> >discussion --  my point was simply that this line of inquiry --
> which I've
> >
> >heard about elsewhere and quite frankly find interesting to read
> (in small
> >
> >bits) in the same way as Art Bell is interesting to listen to
> sometime -- my
> >
> >point is that it's a LOT more absurd than discussion on ANY side
> or ANGLE of
> >
> >the Holocaust discussion possibly could be. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Jim
> >
> >Condit Jr.
>
>
> Again your point is?
> There is much discussion of the holocaust all over the net. G

Re: [CTRL] SnoOwl: DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 02/19/99

[Jim Condit Jr.]

 -Caveat Lector-

Dear SnoOwl and nurev: You're both right. Jim Condit Jr.

> -Original Message-
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Sno0wl
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 4:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] SnoOwl: DRUDGE-REPORT-URGENT 02/19/99
>
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> On 21 Feb 99, , nurev wrote:
>
> >  can't believe what you are pulling here. I am really saddened by
> > your
> > response. What happened to you that you are trying to defend a rapist by
> > defaming the victim? Even if she were a working prostitute, that changes
> > nothing. What happened to you?
>
> I also believe that people are innocent until proven guilty. And
> wonder what kind of
> "evidence" someone might have kept preserved for two decades.
> Another blue dress?
>
> I happen to know several women who were once married to men, had
> their children,
> and were then abandoned after the divorce. These men never paid
> child-support, even
> claiming they had no assets. Some of these men, twenty or thirty
> years later, are now
> rolling clover, married to very wealthy women. Wouldn't it be
> wonderful if these women,
> who had been forced into years of great hardship,  could go after
> these guys and get
> the alimony and child support that was owed them? Ask any lawyer.
> They will tell you
> it's way too late. That's a kind of "rape" too. And unbelievably
> common in our society.
>
> What happened to you?
>
> sno0wl
>
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Re: [CTRL] he who pays the piper calls the tune

[Jim Condit Jr.]

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Yes, good lesson, now we know why the entire establishment Media, dependent
on the Federal Reserve Crowd and advertising from its most favored Big Buddy
Companies, -- avoids real discussion of certain issues, such as the Mideast
(real discussion in MER list on internet), abortion and eugenics and forced
population reduction (as found in the newsletter, Against the Grain by the
excellent Suzanne Rini, etc. etc.) Jim Condit Jr.

> -Original Message-
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Taylor, John (JH)
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 1:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CTRL] he who pays the piper calls the tune
>
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> GRIMSBY -- The University of Lincolnshire and Humberside does not use any
> books by Jewish authors in its courses (Times Higher 19 ii '99). It has a
> 'twinning' arrangement with Saudi Arabia and does not want to
> upset its Arab
> benefactors.
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Re: [CTRL] UNITED STATES CIVILIAN POLICE FORCE - HAITI

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On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Sno0wl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>COMPENSATION/BENEFITS
>>Assignment in the Haiti IPTF is a six (6) month commitment. Compensation
>>is approximately $54,000 for the six (6) month period. Medical, dental
>>and vision benefits are provided for the employee. Benefits are not
>>provided for dependents. Any uniform and equipment needs are provided by
>>DynCorp.  Transportation to the country, and a return flight upon
>>successful completion of the one year contract is provided.
>
>I'm confused. First it says it's a six-month contract. Then it says
>they'll fly me home after completion of a one year contract?  Is this
>some way of saying they won't fly me
>home unless I sign on for 2 six-month contracts?
>
>$100,000+  a year sounds like pretty good pay. Just what am I expected to
>do for that?  Are they looking for security or is this a contract for a
>hit?

I guess you'll just have to apply for the job, Marilyn, to get those
questions answered...  ;-)


>And who is DynCorp?

That's what I asked in my post of Dyncorp's OTHER ad for police officers
in Bosnia...I got an answer from Scott Bergeson, which I unfortunately did
NOT save, where he did a search that turned up that Dyncorp was one of the
original designers of Arpanet, the precursor to the Internet, and also
turned up an article from last November reporting Dyncorp's signing a
contract to work with the Justice Department to provide security...but
nothing was mentioned in the article about Dyncorp provided OVERSEAS
security, nor why they would be seeking to take local cops from the U.S.
and place them in foreign posts...


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Re: [CTRL] WHY REPTILES EAT Melatonin

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>>>ps melatonin makes lizards and amphibians lighter in colour.
>>>   melanin is the name of the pigment controlled by the melatonin
hormone
>>
>>Absolutely wrong;
>wait a mo, I was not talking about Human Biochemistry
>In Lizards, melatonin causes the lizard pigmentation [comprising of
melanin to aggregate]

Biology is biology.  There is absolutely NO reason that a pigment that is
controlled by melanocytes would suddenly be regulated by a pineal gland
that regulates female menstrual cycles and the onset of puberty, whether
the body belongs to a mammal or a reptile.  It's like saying insulin is
responsible for the eye color in lizards...patently ridiculous.

If you're looking for ANY endocrine gland which may -- and I stress MAY --
ultimately help regulate the function of the melanocytes, the thyroid and
the adrenals make more sense...but what part they MAY play is peripheral,
in that they regulate ALL functions of the body...

Go back to school, and study basic biology, zoology, and physiology...


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[CTRL] Fixing the Weather

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Fixing the Weather

By William Thomas

SEATTLE, Washington, February 22, 1999 (ENS) - Someone is finally
doing something about the weather. As water authorities around a
parched globe rush to contract weather modification specialists to
replenish depleted reservoirs for irrigation, drinking water and hydroelectric
generation, weather modification has become a growth business.

Pine Flat Dam (Photo courtesy Kings River Conservation District)

In the United States, at least 29 states have licensed weather modification
programs. Weather Modification Inc. of Fargo, North Dakota has
been working with the Kings River Conservation District (KRCD) in
California's Central San Joaquin Valley since 1954. Responsible for one of
the world's richest agricultural regions, the KCRD water management
agency has consistently contracted for cloud seeding above the crucial
Pine Flat Reservoir.

According to Weather Modification Inc. (WMI), "The program's objective is
to increase precipitation efficiency of clouds and storm systems
crossing the watershed." WMI says that artificially-induced rainfall in the
Kings River Conservation District replenishes groundwater depleted
by heavy use, allowing uninterrupted hydroelectric power generation.

Employing techniques little changed since Dr. Vincent Schaefer undertook
the first weather modification experiments for General Electric in
1946, cloud seeding companies use aircraft or ground generators to
release silver iodide particles into clouds when temperature and moisture
are ripe for rain. Attracting clumps of moisture, the silver iodide particles
trigger formation of ice crystals which then fall as additional rain or
snow.

TRC North American Weather Consultants has conducted more than 200
weather modification projects to augment normal snow or rainfall
since 1950. Using radar and aircraft sensors to track atmospheric
changes, TRC works to refill reservoirs and generate snow for ski resorts.
The weather modification company also drops dry ice to dissipate fog over
busy airports.

Silver iodide flares mounted on a cloud seeding aircraft (Photo courtesy
Atmospherics, Inc.)

Based in Salt Lake City, Utah, TRC claims that precipitation increases
from its weather modification programs range from 10 to 15 percent
over normal rainfall in the wintertime northern hemisphere areas to as much
as 25 percent in tropical regions. A partial listing of the company's
cloud seeding operations conducted through 1994 includes repeated
application of silver iodide to rainclouds over Utah, California, Wyoming,
Idaho, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Oregon, Washington state, Iowa and
British Columbia. Similar projects have enhanced municipal water
supplies in Greece, Guatemala, Taiwan, Abu Dhabi, Jamaica and Mexico.

An 18 member U.S. Weather Modification Advisory Board established in
April, 1977 has sought in vain to introduce a national weather
modification policy. The board's efforts have been hampered by continuing
uncertainties in weather prediction and weather's trans-border
aspects which have already sparked lawsuits from litigants claiming to be
harmed by floods resulting from weather modification.

Besides the unpredictability of its effects, cloud seeding's biggest
drawback is that it requires clouds containing enough moisture for silver
iodide crystals to tip near-saturation into rain or snow. Draining energy from
budding hurricanes and hailstorms, or creating rain from a clear
blue sky are the twin grails of more ambitious weather wizards.

Internationally recognized weather modification expert Thomas Henderson
founded Atmospherics, Inc. in 1960. En route to Thailand from his
Fresno, California headquarters to attend the World Meteorological
Organization's International Weather Modification Conference, Henderson
told ENS, "Within the weather modification ranks interest has always
existed regarding discovery and development of potentially improved
seeding materials."

According to testimony before a House subcommittee on Science and
Technology in October, 1977 more than 60 countries were enagaged
in active weather modification at that time. A discussion paper released at
this early hearing called for "introducing perturbation energies to
redirect the atmosphere's 'natural' energies" using infusions of chemical
and electromagnetic energy.

Two decades later, a U.S. Air Force research study, "Weather as a Force
Multiplier" outlines how powerful "ionospheric heaters" and clouds
generated by chemical condensation trails - contrails - spread behind
airborne tankers could allow U.S. aerospace forces to "own the
weather" by the year 2025. Military researchers are already attempting to
influence the weather "by adding small amounts of energy at just the
right time and space," the report stated.

Array of HAARP antennas photographed by the HAARPcam, February 22,
1999. (Photo courtesy U.S. Air Force)

Located in Gakon, Alaska, an experimental U.S. Navy and Air Force
ionospheric heater known

[CTRL] Newt News

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>From Roll Call Online


Gingrich Group May Avoid IRS Sanctions

After Decision on Progress & Freedom Foundation, ALOF Also Could Be Cleared


By Damon Chappie

While the Internal Revenue Service has cleared one set of tax-exempt groups
linked to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), the tax agency has
remained silent on another key part of the Gingrich enterprise.

The Abraham Lincoln Opportunity Foundation, the charity originally set up
to help inner-city youths but which was transformed into a fundraising
vehicle to beam Gingrich speeches across the country, may escape IRS
sanctions, according to its founder and other tax law experts.

A 1996 investigation by the House ethics committee revealed abuses of
tax-exempt rules in the operation of ALOF, which Gingrich allies used to
fund projects that his political committee, GOPAC, could not afford.

ALOF shared the same offices, directors, employees and telephone numbers as
GOPAC. Donors were told that tax-deductible contributions to ALOF would
count as payments for charter membership in GOPAC, and money flowed freely
between the two groups. But the foundation denied any connection to
political or partisan groups on its tax returns.

In the IRS' ruling earlier this month on the Progress & Freedom Foundation,
a successor to ALOF, the agency mentioned ALOF only in passing during a
long recitation of the facts of the case.

And while it cleared PFF along with the Kennesaw State University
Foundation and Reinhardt College for their roles in the production of
Gingrich's "Renewing American Civilization" course, the IRS has been silent
on ALOF.

Howard "Bo" Callaway, the former head of GOPAC and the founder of ALOF,
said in a telephone interview that he has heard nothing about ALOF from the
IRS.

Referring to the IRS ruling on PFF, Callaway said, "It seems to me that the
information in there is extremely parallel to what they allege the ALOF
did, because the person they were talking about in both cases was the same,
Newt Gingrich."

If anything, Callaway said he now expects clearance by the IRS of ALOF's
activities. "I would expect the same thing. I haven't heard from them and I
don't think that at this point I should have heard from them. I wouldn't
expect to hear from them."

And because ALOF went out of business in 1994, tax lawyers said the IRS may
never say anything about it, privately or publicly.

Revocation of tax-exempt status -- the sanction feared most by charitable
groups -- is no longer a serious threat to a dead organization, although
nothing would prevent the IRS from taking that action against ALOF.

"Sure they could I guess. Just like you could stab a dead man in the
heart," said William Lehrfeld, a tax lawyer who advises
conservative-leaning organizations.

But University of Miami tax law professor Frances Hill said, "If the
service has no curiosity about the Abraham Lincoln group and Gingrich's and
Callaway's role, then that goes along with the compartmentalization and the
fluffy kind of approach to fact-finding that we see in the other part of
this case."

The IRS admission that it did not obtain all the facts it needed in the PFF
case has perplexed tax attorneys and former IRS officials.

Several tax lawyers privately questioned whether the IRS caved in to a
series of attacks on different fronts, which included an overhaul of the
agency, lawsuits by conservative political groups and a review of political
audits ordered by GOP lawmakers.

The IRS audit of the Gingrich college course sparked an outcry from other
conservative groups, which claimed they were being targeted by the tax
agency. In turn, GOP lawmakers initiated a review of IRS audits of such
groups by the Joint Committee on Taxation.

The decision on PFF reached to the highest levels of the IRS but not to IRS
Commissioner Charles Rossotti, according to sources familiar with the
decision.

Rossotti was recused because of a potential conflict due to his wife's work
at a law firm that represented PFF.

The Congressional Accountability Project, an ethics watchdog group, has
asked the Treasury Department's inspector general to review the IRS ruling
to determine whether political pressure was applied.

In a Feb. 16 letter to Larry Rogers, the Treasury inspector general for tax
matters, CAP Director Gary Ruskin questioned why the IRS decided such an
important case on an incomplete record. In its ruling, the IRS said the
House ethics committee blocked access to transcripts during its probe.

IRS officials refused to comment on the case at all and also declined
comment on the request for an IG investigation.

Other tax experts said the IRS' reluctance to fully investigate the case of
PFF was unusual.

"It is strange to me that they didn't do an independent review," said
Milton Cerny, a tax attorney with Caplin & Drysdale who headed the IRS
exempt-organization section for 28 years.

The IRS said crucial testimony that may have made the difference was
withheld from the ag

[CTRL] TV Times

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>From SalonMagazine.CoM


blue glow
SALON'S TV PICKS FOR
TUESDAY, FEB. 23, 1999
BY JOYCE MILLMAN

S E R I E S

A swim with a horny dolphin results in abject humiliation for Hank on King
of the Hill (8 p.m., Fox). Harry's girlfriend (Jan Hooks) wants a baby on
3rd Rock from the Sun (8 p.m., NBC). A spell brings the evil vampire
version of Willow (from the alternate-universe Sunnydale) to town on a new
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (8 p.m., WB). Also, bad Faith goes over to the
dark side. On The PJs (8:30 p.m., Fox), Thurgood's experimental blood
pressure medication turns him into a love machine. The Chris Rock-produced
sitcom The Hughleys (8:30 p.m., ABC) and Eddie Murphy's "PJs" both share
their creators' obsession with "The Jeffersons"; tonight, "The Hughleys"
goes one up with guest appearances by Sherman Hemsley and Marla Gibbs. Nova
(check local times, PBS) presents "Battle Alert in the Gulf," a close-up
look at a U.S. Navy battle group (centered around the aircraft carrier
Independence) on patrol in the Persian Gulf. On Felicity (9 p.m., WB), Noel
learns that his brother is gay and Felicity's boss asks her to marry him so
he can obtain a green card to stay in the country. The department puts
Fancy in command of a racially charged and politically sensitive case on
NYPD Blue (10 p.m., ABC). BIOrhythm (10:30 p.m., MTV) chronicles the life
of President Clinton in pictures and music. Can you think of any songs
about girls named Monica?

S P O R T S

Basketball:
Sonics at Rockets (8 p.m., TNT)

T A L K

Rosie O'Donnell (syndicated) Matthew McConaughey, Laura Dern
David Letterman (CBS) Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura
Jay Leno (NBC) John Elway, Judge Judy, Shania Twain
Charlie Rose (PBS) Presidential speechwriter Michael Waldman
Politically Incorrect (ABC) D.L. Hughley, Kelly Hu
Conan O'Brien (NBC) Kevin Nealon

E T C .

The Christian Action Network, the Virginia group demanding that the FCC add
an "HC" warning label for "homosexual content" to its TV rating system, is
also very concerned about hidden gay messages creeping into TV commercials.
In newspaper reports last week, group spokesman Martin Mawyer decried
"gay-vague" advertising, commercials that are directed at gays but "the
so-called straight community just can't figure it out."

Ah-ha! So that's the problem! The Christian Action Network feels left out
of the loop! As a public service, Blue Glow has prepared the following list
of gay commercial icons, so all our homophobic friends out there will
finally "get it," and will thus know when to clamp their chastity belts
shut and wash their children's eyes out with soap.

1. Poppin' Fresh (nelly giggle)
2. The Energizer Bunny (pink)
3. Mr. Clean (earring)
4. Mr. Peanut (foppish)
5. Josephine the Plumber (no explanation necessary)
6. Tweety Bird (effeminate)
7. Any male on a Mentos ad (Eurotrash)
8. The Taco Bell chihuahua (lesbian)
9. Pop (but not Snap or Crackle)
10. The Jolly Green Giant (why do you think he's so jolly?)
SALON | Feb. 23, 1999



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>From wsws.org


WSWS : News & Analysis : Europe : Britain

An assault on civil liberties

British Home Secretary proposes preventative detention

By Mike Ingram
23 February 1999

Last week Labour Home Secretary Jack Straw proposed legislation allowing
the courts to detain anyone considered to have a "dangerous personality
disorder", whether or not they have committed a crime. This would represent
a fundamental restructuring of the British legal system and a major attack
on civil liberties.

In a statement to the House of Commons Straw said that the government is
proposing "new legal powers for the indeterminate but reviewable detention
of dangerously personality-disordered individuals. These powers would apply
whether or not someone was before the courts for an offence If someone
is before the courts for an offence--no matter what the nature of the
offence is and even if it does not normally carry a heavy penalty--it would
be open to the courts, subject to the criteria being met, to impose one of
these indeterminate but reviewable sentences."

During a largely supportive debate, several MPs voiced worries over such an
open abuse of civil liberties and human rights. Labour's Ann Clwyd said
that she was concerned "about putting people in prison--locking them up--on
the basis not of what they have done but of what they might do. I am sure
that my Right Honourable friend [Straw] will agree that it is very
difficult--perhaps it is the most difficult thing of all--to prove that one
is not dangerous."

David Winnick said he was uneasy about "the possibility of abuses and the
nightmare scenario of finding in 25 years' time that someone has been
wrongfully detained from the beginning."

Under the present Mental Health Act it is already possible to detain people
deemed by doctors to be dangerously ill. Straw argues that because this
requires that people be diagnosed as suffering from "treatable" disorders,
it is inadequate to deal with the problem. Rather than address the question
of why certain people are simply written off as "untreatable", Straw is
seeking to use the legitimate concerns of the population for the
reactionary law-and-order agenda Labour has pursued since coming to office.

Tony Benn compared Straw's proposals and internment without trial in
Northern Ireland, which he said "was justified on exactly the same
basis--that people who had committed no offence should be kept out of the
public domain without a trial." "In the Soviet Union," Benn noted, "that
practice was widely followed because it can be easily abused."

The proposals are to be introduced in a consultation document this spring,
presented jointly by the Home Secretary and the Health Minister.

Straw rejected Benn's parallel with internment because that was an
executive (government) decision, whereas his legislation would place
decisions in the hands of the courts. Even when the burden is placed upon
the court to prove "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt", however, there have
been numerous politically motivated frame-ups of innocent people such as
the Guildford Four and the Birmingham Six.

Another serious warning is the case of Stefan Kiszko who was wrongfully
accused of the rape and murder of schoolgirl Lesley Molseed and spent 16
years in jail until his acquittal in 1992. Kiszko was one of many long-term
inmates forced to stay in prison because they refused to admit their guilt
and "address their offending behaviour"--a prerequisite for being granted
parole. He died within a year of his release.

Dr. David Wilson was the governor of Underwood jail in Buckinghamshire
while Kiszko was detained there. He resigned from his post as a senior
official at Prison Service headquarters 18 months ago and has joined the
Prison Reform Trust, where he received numerous convincing claims of
innocence by inmates. He now believes that at least one in 50 inmates were
probably innocent. Wilson had tried to persuade Kiszko to attend a Sex
Offenders Treatment Programme, in which he would have had to admit to rape
and murder and discuss the reasons for his offence. "Of course he
refused--it was absurd," Wilson told the BBC in April 1998.

The latest proposals set the stage for even greater injustices. All that
would be necessary is for someone to be declared "potentially dangerous"
for them to be detained indefinitely with no right of appeal.



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>From Int'l Herald Tribune



Paris, Tuesday, February 23, 1999

Trade Surplus Soars 87%As Recession Grips Japan

Compiled by Our Staff From Dispatches

TOKYO - Japan's trade surplus soared 87 percent in January from the same
month last year as the nation's recession crushed demand for imports, the
government announced Monday.

At the same time, Japanese exports to the United States and Europe fell,
particularly U.S. exports of steel that have been at the center of a
growing trade dispute with Washington.

The merchandise trade surplus, the measure of all goods exported by Japan
minus those imported, grew to $6.28 billion for the first month of the
year, the Ministry of Finance said. The trade surplus with the United
States decreased 2.2 percent in January, to $4.03 billion, the ministry
said.

The overall trade surplus, which was higher than expected, ''reflects the
severity of Japan's depressed domestic demand,'' said Satoru Ogasawara,
economist at Credit Suisse First Boston, blaming the deepest recession
since World War II. ''The gap between exports and imports will continue to
grow since the yen is now heading toward 125 yen level,'' Mr. Ogasawara
warned.

Imports and exports both fell, as collapsing demand at home coincided with
fading demand in the United States and Europe. While exports tumbled 10.6
percent to 3.45 trillion yen ($28.8 billion), imports fell 22.1 percent to
2.69 trillion yen, the Finance Ministry said.

''This month's surplus was mainly due to a heavy drop in imports as the
Japanese market could not absorb goods from Asia because of the prolonged
stagnation of domestic demand,'' a Finance Ministry official said.

Measured on a monthly basis, Japan's merchandise trade surplus surged 33
percent in January from December.

The steady climb in the surplus reflects consumers' reluctance to spend
amid Japan's worst recession in decades. That has cut demand for imports
and made Japanese manufacturers increasingly reliant on sales overseas.

Japan has been under heavy pressure from the United States and other
trading partners to rein in the surplus by bolstering its weak economy and
spurring demand for imports.

Exports had increased in the three quarters through September as strong
sales of steel to the United States and of cars to Europe offset plunging
shipments to Asia. In the fourth quarter, though, exports fell because of
waning U.S. and European demand.

''The Japanese export environment is clearly deteriorating,'' said Yoshito
Sakakibara, an economist at Goldman Sachs.

''Exports to Europe are deteriorating significantly'' because of the
slowdown in the European economies, Mr. Sakakibara said. In January,
exports to the 15 member countries of the European Union fell 1.4 percent,
from the month before, the first decline in 25 months.

Japan's trade surplus rose 40.1 percent in 1998 from the previous year to a
record $121.8 billion, while the country's surplus with the United States
rose 33.4 percent to $58.3 billion

Industrial output in Japan has fallen eight of the past 12 months as
companies cut production because of weak consumer demand. Household
spending in Japan fell 2.2 percent in 1998 as rising unemployment and
falling incomes caused consumers to increase savings.

The fall in consumer spending, which accounts for 60 percent of the
economy, helped push the nation into its worst recession in more than 50
years. The government expects the economy to shrink 2.2 percent in the year
through March, yet grow 0.5 percent the following year.

Separately, the Finance Ministry reported that Japanese steel exports to
the United States plunged more than 25 percent in January compared with a
year earlier.

Japanese steelmakers, anticipating the imposition of punitive tariffs by
the U.S. Commerce Department, cut exports of steel to the United States in
January by 28.7 percent in value and 25.4 percent in volume from the same
month a year earlier.

Japan's steel exports have become a major trade conflict between the two
countries since the U.S. steel industry accused Japanese companies of
dumping low-priced steel in the United States. U.S. steelmakers such as
Bethlehem Steel Corp. accused Japanese competitors of dumping, or selling
products at below the cost of production.







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[CTRL] Turkey: 02-22

[Alamaine Ratliff]

 -Caveat Lector-

>From ArabicNews.CoM

Israeli group mediates gas line deal in the Caspian Sea bypassing Iran to
Turkey
Regional, Economics, 2/22/99

The Israeli Merhaf group specialized in energy has played the role of the
broker in the project signed by Turkmenistan last Friday to erect a line
for natural gas transportation from the Caspian Sea to Europe and Turkey.

The Israeli daily Haaretz said on Sunday that Turkmenistan authorized the
realization of this project which is estimated at a cost of US $ 2.5
billion to " General Electric Finance" and "Bechtel Enterprises" Groups.

Chairman of Merfah group Yusi Mayan said Israeli engineering experts will
take part in erecting the said project.

On Sunday Iran refused the agreement signed by Turkmenistan and viewed it
as unacceptable.

The spokesman for the Iranian Foreign Ministry Hamid Rida Asefy said that
what Turkmenistan has done is a violation to principles advocated by the
countries overlooking the Caspian Sea, thereby this agreement is "
considered as unacceptable."

R
>>

>From Reuters

Monday February 22 6:55 AM ET

Turk President Calls Greece 'Outlaw State'


Reuters Photo


By Steve Bryant

ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkish President Suleyman Demirel said Monday that
Greek support for Kurdish rebels fighting an armed campaign in Turkey meant
Greece should be classed a state that sponsors terrorism.

Turkey has launched a drive in Europe to make Greece account for harboring
Kurdish rebel chief Abdullah Ocalan.

Turkish commandos captured Ocalan last week in the Kenyan capital Nairobi
where he had been hiding in the Greek embassy. Three Greek ministers
resigned in the ensuing row.

``Greece should be added to the list of countries that support terrorism
and harbor terrorists. A country like that can only be described as an
outlaw state,'' the Anatolian news agency quoted Demirel as saying. It was
quoting from the text of an interview he gave to Philippines television in
Manila.

Each year the State Department releases a list of countries it says sponsor
terrorism.

In the interview Demirel also warned Athens that Turkey could take
unspecified measures if Greece continued what he called its illegal support
for Ocalan's rebels.

``We reserve the right given to us by international law to take the
necessary precautions if Greece chooses to continue its illegal behavior,''
he said.

The president's warning appeared backed by a daily newspaper publishing
what it said were admissions from Ocalan that Greece had provided his
rebels with rockets and other arms.

Turkey has demanded that the European Union hold Greece to account for why
it was protecting the guerrilla, a man Ankara says was responsible for more
than 29,000 deaths in 14 years of armed conflict for self-rule in the
mainly Kurdish southeast.

European Union foreign ministers meeting in Luxembourg Sunday discussed the
affair, which has sparked Kurdish protests across Europe and Turkey. But
there was little sign of the bloc condemning Greece as Turkey demands.

According to Hurriyet, a daily with close ties to the Turkish security
establishment, Ocalan has told Turkish prosecutors that Greek support for
his Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) was long-term and substantial, .

``Greece has supported the PKK (Kurdistan Workers Party) for years,'' the
paper quoted Ocalan as saying. ``Greece even helped us with weapons and
rockets.''

The dispute adds to other simmering rows between Turkey and Greece, ranging
from territorial claims in the Aegean Sea to the status of the divided
island of Cyprus.

Turkey and Europe have drifted apart since the EU refused to consider
Turkey as a potential member at a summit in 1997.

Inside Turkey, Kurdish shopkeepers in a busy district of the main city in
southeast Turkey shut their stores Monday in response to a guerrilla call
for protests at Ocalan's arrest.

Police with megaphones ordered them to open for business. Business life in
other parts of Diyarbakir, home to around a million people, went on as
normal.

Diyarbakir is the administrative center of the southeast, where sporadic
violent pro-Ocalan protests have erupted.

His guerrillas have vowed to carry on their armed campaign.

Their political wing had distributed leaflets in Diyarbakir Saturday
ordering all shops and offices to close Monday for three days.

``Those not joining the protest will be punished,'' the leaflets said.

Security authorities say Diyarbakir and the surrounding area under
emergency rule are closed to the foreign press.



>From Agence France Presse

Turkey closes one gate on Iranian border over Kurdish protests

DIYARBAKIR, Turkey, Feb 22 (AFP) - Turkey on Monday closed one of its gates
on its border with Iran following Kurdish protests across the border over
the capture of Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan, local authorities in
the eastern Turkish province of Van said.

The gate in the Esendere town of the southeastern Turkish province of
Hakkari would be closed f

[CTRL] Yev Gotta Laugh ?? aka 'not for the squeamish'

[Andrew Hennessey]

 -Caveat Lector-

Some guy called Michael Estes has exercised his natural right to mete out a
personal attack - presumably because he disagrees with the humourous
way I deal with various Horrific Subject areas eg. the possibility
of truth in alien carnage stories - which if true in the slightest
is going to put my life at risk - Humour though is my way of Coping
with Horror -
The CTRL may be interested in some personal Biog notes - all I can say
is that to the best of my ability and discernment - they are true, and
will explain where I'm coming from.

My name is Andrew Hennessey.
I have pre-birth memories of choosing this life.
I am protected by an intelligent 'humanoid' being aka 'angel'
I have been attacked by terrifying 'black hole' energy sucking phenomena
in my room in 1978.
I was Benevolently abducted in 1980 by 'Zeta' types
I have been targeted, harassed and attacked by Security Service ever since.
I developed a Unifying Theory of Relativity with 'Free Energy' ideologies
And  derived Tesla and Keeley theories from first principles using independent
Knowledge, solving the Quantum and 30 other 'impossible' academic paradoxes.
I was 'visited' by 2 men-in-black in 1985 who tried to blot these emerging
Theories from my mind.   http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~pegasus/
Attempts were made on my life by an individual in a hostel on 2 consecutive
nights And the only thing I knew about it on both occasions was waking up
whilst my Legs were already thrashing out at my attacker - my 'angel'
having animated my body To save my life.- the man held off and compromised
on both ocassions.
I have seen and verified Doppelgangers in 1985
In 1985, my sister Avril, who had worked for the United Nations Relief and
Works Agency for Palestine, was blown up in  a gas explosion in London to
later die.
Before the fire service got there, she says that a man came to remove the
tampered gas fittings.
In Edinburgh, in 1985 a gunman followed my mother and father out into the
countryside, and  Parked his car very nearby - he spooked my parents when
he began looking angry and Agitated - as my father drove past - he could
see the man trying to force a clip into a Luger.
My mentally handicapped younger sister was also raped by a man - 1989 whose
vehicle we traced To the English Military suburban complex of  Bath - under
some 'upper class' triple barrelled Name - my father called in a favour in
the police force to trace the registration.
In 1990- 93 further action from SAS, MI5 in private, personal, and working
situations Brought an end to my career in the Civil Service. -
These people seriously damaged my health and career.
In Scotland MI5 often use the nationalist excuse to target individuals. I
worked in a public office As an employment consultant. A man introduced
himself as Mr Wallace of 24 Burgess Street, As ex-SAS - he was a big bulky
person  [Wallace perhaps referring to the Scottish national hero of the
same name]
He then proceeded to give out a very threatening monologue. I remembered
THAT name and address. 1993
At that time as luck would have it I moved into a rented flat at 24 Burgess
Street, and there was indeed A Mr Wallace staying there - this guy was 5
foot 1" and very slightly built.
I am a professional musician - this year, a non-descript fit individual
turned up at a music rehearsal As an unknown guest, shook my right arm with
a martial arts akido handshake giving me a serious Injury to my elbow -
then left immediately afterwards. I remained ignorant of the injury until I
tried To lift something the next day - and I have been incapacitated for
weeks.
A woman recently showed up at my Group in Edinburgh 1998/9 mentioning
circumstances and personal Details about me that only my deceased sister
could have known - she claimed that she had MI6 and 'Jewish' connections
and that my sister avril had 'arab' friends.
I know that Avril only possessed superfluous knowledge past its sell by
date in the year she was hit, She was only a secretary. She was also
hideously raped, and, thrown from a 2 storey balcony in London. She
actually survived all that, but the pains of her broken and burned body -
she used to Be a pianist, drove her to drink - which killed her in 1996
aged 48. Some ex-military guy was using her before she became critical.
My phone is tapped, I even have a secret IP number with easynet - the guy
in technical support said After getting priveleged access to my records
1997 'should I be talking to you'
In 1997 a 'Zeta' hybrid materialised in my flat.
In 1998 a Defence Intelligence Black Ops unit approached me with a view to
'recruitment' aka experimentation.

As you can see, I have a story to tell - I have never told it before as I
am still being targeted - maybe its time ?

Andrew Hennessey
Transformation Studies Group
Edinburgh Scotland


>

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[CTRL] he who pays the piper calls the tune

[Taylor, John (JH)]

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GRIMSBY -- The University of Lincolnshire and Humberside does not use any
books by Jewish authors in its courses (Times Higher 19 ii '99). It has a
'twinning' arrangement with Saudi Arabia and does not want to upset its Arab
benefactors.

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[CTRL] suppression in tokyo of chinese massacre

[Taylor, John (JH)]

 -Caveat Lector-

TOKYO, Feb. 19, 1999 (Agence France Presse) --  A Tokyo publisher has
shelved plans to launch the Japanese version of an international best-seller
on Japan's wartime atrocities in Nanjing [then the capital of China]. The
book, which has already sold 500,000 copies in the United States, has
inflamed Japanese revisionists here who say they can find no evidence of a
massacre of Chinese civilians by Japanese troops in December 1937 in
Nanjing. China says 300,000 civilians were massacred when Japanese
troops embarked on an orgy of destruction, pillage, rape and murder after
taking Nanjing. In the Sunday Times (21 ii '99, Books), author J. G. Ballard
-- who suffered under the Japanese -- provides a graphic account of live
Chinese being used for bayonet practice and being forced to rape their own
children. The six-week mayhem in Nanjing after the 90,000 Chinese defending
troops had all been rounded up and killed was much photographed by proud
Japanese and reported in Japanese newspapers. One paper carried a story
about officers with the Imperial Army being involved in a "CONTEST TO KILL
FIRST 100 CHINESE BY BEHEADING." Ballard says there were huge dykes of
Chinese corpses piled along the Yangtse.
Were the Japanese psychopaths? No, concludes Ballard. "Faced with a
threat to themselves, human beings become cruel and dangerous." Yet it is
not clear what the threat was to Japanese soldiers once Nanjing had fallen
to them. Altogether, Ballard reckons that the Japanese killed 10 million
civilian Chinese during 1937-45. Visiting Nazi leaders were shocked at the
savagery.

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==
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screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
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[CTRL] Hillary Clinton Guilty of Cover Up (http://www.eskimo.com/~ccnrs/v3i48.html)

[Peter L. Sroufe]

Folks, New York State voters shouldn't forget 
this:
http://www.eskimo.com/~ccnrs/v3i48.html
 
I'm not anti-government!I'm anti-corrupt 
government!NEVER FORGET the Waco Massacre of April, 1993!Federal 
Government defined: "a benefit/subsidy protection 
racket!"Visit me at:http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htmThe 
Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government**SOCIALISM IS THE 
ENEMY OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM!**
God Bless the Families who lost their loved ones 
who made the supreme sacrifice to protect our Freedoms.  Why are we 
allowing that sacrifice to be trampled upon by the likes of those in the current 
government?  We must Wakeup soon to the deprivation of our Freedoms by the 
facist socialists.
Democracy=ChaosRepublic=Order
Liberal=Socialist=Facist
An uncorrupted Constitutional Conservative=Individual Freedom, 
e.g. Congressman Ron Paul, Representative from Texas
 
(The Klintoon Coalition looks to big government to provide for 
their needs.)
(Who do You look to to provide for Your needs?)
 
BARD
 Hillary Clinton Guilty of Cover Up.url

[CTRL] NEWS Science ready to let men have babies (http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/

[Peter L. Sroufe]

WOT NEXT???
 
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/99/02/21/stinwenws01033.html?1366499
 
I'm not anti-government!I'm anti-corrupt 
government!NEVER FORGET the Waco Massacre of April, 1993!Federal 
Government defined: "a benefit/subsidy protection 
racket!"Visit me at:http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htmThe 
Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government**SOCIALISM IS THE 
ENEMY OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM!**Democracy=ChaosRepublic=Order
 
BARD
 NEWS Science ready to let men have babies.url
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