Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[Andrew X98]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Did you go to the sites? I have been reading your words and you don't appear
to be uneducated, so why would you speak such lies. You not only stated them
you went further by trying to support them. If I am wrong about this then
you were just being foolish...I left the choice open for you.

"Waco Protest 2000"

Andrew X98  "The Watchman"

The "Cover-up Church" was founded on the Sabbath 9-18-99 by Agent, Clive
Doyle

Waco Video: "X A True Revelation"  $10.98 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Children were "HACKED" to death before the fire!
http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/index.html

David Koresh Said:  "The earthquake in Waco is not something to be taken
lightly. It will probably be "the thing" needed to shake some sense into the
people."

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?


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don't you think that's a little harsh? the only question is whether the
point was true or not. it's not, so foxter was wrong. end of story. why
assume they were 'lying' about it? (as your first sentence makes clear)
i realize you two have been bickering for a few days now (believe me, i
_love_ to read about it on this list), but come on, get over it and make
your point about waco. it's hard to believe that the obviously carefully
thought out message explaining what you believe that you posted this
evening was typed by the same hands that produced this trash. (if people
would at least have the common courtesy to take flame wars off-list...)
if you don't agree w/ foxter, fine, prove otherwise, but resorting to
personal attacks a) doesn't _disprove_ the other person, b) annoys and
drives away people who might have been receptive to yr message, and c)
makes you look childish and silly.

that said, let the flamage begin...

On 28 Mar 00, at 23:46, Andrew X98 wrote:

> You are a liar.  The only question is are you a knowing liar or just a
> fool.  If you are simply ignorant I suggest that you visit these sights
> for some understanding.
>
> http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
>
> http://www.peopleofallah.org/Main.html


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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

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don't you think that's a little harsh? the only question is whether the
point was true or not. it's not, so foxter was wrong. end of story. why
assume they were 'lying' about it? (as your first sentence makes clear)
i realize you two have been bickering for a few days now (believe me, i
_love_ to read about it on this list), but come on, get over it and make
your point about waco. it's hard to believe that the obviously carefully
thought out message explaining what you believe that you posted this
evening was typed by the same hands that produced this trash. (if people
would at least have the common courtesy to take flame wars off-list...)
if you don't agree w/ foxter, fine, prove otherwise, but resorting to
personal attacks a) doesn't _disprove_ the other person, b) annoys and
drives away people who might have been receptive to yr message, and c)
makes you look childish and silly.

that said, let the flamage begin...

On 28 Mar 00, at 23:46, Andrew X98 wrote:

> You are a liar.  The only question is are you a knowing liar or just a
> fool.  If you are simply ignorant I suggest that you visit these sights
> for some understanding.
>
> http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
>
> http://www.peopleofallah.org/Main.html


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[CTRL] White House has disk with Lewinsky e-mail (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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March 29, 2000

White House has disk
with Lewinsky e-mail

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


 The White House has in its possession a
previously undisclosed computer disk with e-mails by
former intern Monica Lewinsky to two grand jury
witnesses while her affair with President Clinton was
under investigation.

 The e-mails are among thousands of messages
sought under subpoena between 1996 and 1998 by
a federal grand jury and three congressional
committees, but never turned over.

 U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth, told
Monday of the existence of the disk by Justice
Department lawyer James J. Gilligan, will decide
when and if it will be released and to whom.

 The "zip disk," a sophisticated floppylike disk
with expanded storage space, was compiled after a
manual search of the Lewinsky e-mail file by a
Northrop Grumman Corp. contract employee who
denied its existence under oath last week before the
House Government Reform Committee.

 That employee, Robert Haas, gave the disk to the
firm's corporate counsel, who passed it on March 17
to Charles C. Easley, security chief for the Executive
Office of the President.

 On the disk are e-mails Miss Lewinsky sent to
Betty Currie, who is Mr. Clinton's personal
secretary, and Ashley Raines, who worked in the
White House Office of Policy Development
Operations.

 Mrs. Currie, who facilitated meetings between the
president and the intern, and Miss Raines, in whom
Miss Lewinsky confided she was having sexual
relations with Mr. Clinton, were witnesses before the
Lewinsky grand jury.

 "EOP has not yet reviewed the contents of the
disk, but has been advised by counsel for Northrop
Grumman that it contains copies of e-mails from
Monica Lewinsky to Betty Currie and Ashley
Raines," said Mr. Gilligan, who represents the
Executive Office of the President.

 He said the White House has "no knowledge or
information whatsoever" on the specific contents of
the e-mails.

 The growing flap over the missing e-mails has
spread in recent weeks to a Justice Department
investigation and a probe by the House committee,
whose chairman, Rep. Dan Burton, Indiana
Republican, called this week for the appointment of a
special counsel to investigate the matter.

 The Justice Department's campaign finance task
force is probing whether the White House willfully
concealed e-mails subpoenaed by the task force, and
"threatened" Northrop Grumman employees to keep
the messages secret.

 Task force chief Robert J. Conrad Jr. told Judge
Lamberth last week the e-mail management system
had "for some period of time" failed to collect
incoming messages, possibly including some
"communications related to various criminal
investigations."

 Meanwhile, White House spokesman Joe
Lockhart said the Justice Department will decide
whether to name an outside counsel to probe the
missing e-mails, but criticized Mr. Burton for making
the request.

 "Dan Burton asking for an outside counsel or a
special counsel is like the sun coming up in the
morning," Mr. Lockhart said.

 The White House has acknowledged that
thousands of e-mails were not turned over under
subpoena during a two-year period ending in 1998,
but blamed the problem on a computer glitch.

 The e-mails involved Miss Lewinsky; the White
House's receipt of secret FBI files; information on the
selection 

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #3

[Ric Carter]

l is jail-bound. The gay-
  hating football "great" will now be ministering in jail to his "best
  friend," a reverend who peddled cocaine and illegally possessed guns.
  The pal will stew in jail for a decade. PLUS: Who torched Reggie's
  church? H. http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/mar00/knox28032700.asp
  [ via http://www.obscurestore.com/ ]
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Religion in China 'weak, growing'. (AP) Religious persecution in China is
  the exception, not the rule, sez the leader of a govt-approved church org-
  anization. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565248392-0fb

# Group Claims China Arrested 21,000. (AP) Before the well-known roundup of
  Falun Gong sect members began last year, Chinese cops had already arrested
  21,000 people in a two-year campaign against superstitious activities, sez
  Amnesty Int'l: http://news.excite.com/news/ap/000323/10/int-china-sects

: D'ya enjoy watching the action when political/religious/economic/artistic
belief systems wage war on each other? Who do you root for? Can you tell the
players without a program? Does your conspiracy interfere in the play? How?

# Bless The Bikers: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,155012928,00.html
# Holy KidProp Boom: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,155012378,00.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Conspiracies'R'Us:

# Belgrade plot to kill NATO chiefs - CIA feared Serbs would launch SAMs:
  http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/03/28/timfgneur01005.html
# Albright to visit Central Asia - US to annex Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and
  Uzbekistan: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565263567-79f
# Pakistan council KOs death sentence - dismemberment violates tenets of
  Islam: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565242471-ae7

# Measles kills 900 in Afghanistan - Taliban blames "Western devils"
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565263616-b45
# Principles of Islamic Investing - Dow Jones course applies Islamic law
  to business: http://www.deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,155013328,00.html

# Cisco surpasses Microsoft in value - Gates vows revenge "beyond grave"
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565263026-15b
# Iranian newspaper prints US flag - mullahs vow revenge "beyond grave"
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565261399-d66
# Branch Davidians' Lawyers Question Reno About Waco - think she's lying:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2328/ts/crime_davidians_1.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

  "I didn't do it, and I promise never to do it again, ever."

* Rev.R.Carter, ULC * http://skeptilog.pitas.com * FAX: 603-415-3736
* SkeptiNews bulletins now *ONLINE* at: http://skeptinews.pitas.com/
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Re: [CTRL] "Waco Protest 2000"

[uaicvtmb]

OK FINE, SO ARE YOU "SELF APPOINTED OR WHAT?" How many times 
in one night
do you have to post the SAME THING. Will You Give it A REST 
ALREADY! THANKS "MR. X"
The other people are beginning to treat this as SPAM. And I 
will Just DELEAT IT. Thanks. ~

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andrew X98 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 8:46 
  PM
  Subject: [CTRL] "Waco Protest 2000"
  
  In The Name 
  of God Most Gracious, Most Merciful
   
   
  Dear Brothers and 
  Sisters,
   
  I am Andrew, "The 
  Watchman" appointed by the survivors of the April 19,1993 Waco 
  Holocaust.
   
  On September 18, 1999 
  Clive  Doyle laid the foundation to the new church. This was a Sabbath. 
  Since that day I have been warning the people of this nation about the 
  Biblical implications of that crime against the Laws of God and the memory of 
  the Martyrs. To get this job done I have been forced into this world of 
  computers. I am very new at this method of communication and as a result I 
  have made many mistakes in protocol. Only time and experience will correct 
  this.
   
  I have sought out forums, 
  E-Mail Lists and individuals that I thought would be interested and capable of 
  understanding my message of great concern. I have studied each group and  
  considered your level of thought processing in selecting you. I understood 
  from the beginning that I would make mistakes. To overcome these problems I 
  depended on your Christian concern and, in the absence of that, your humanity 
  toward a petitioner.
   
  My premises is that you 
  are  people that care about the murder of these men, woman and 
  children.  I believe that there are many people in this country that want 
  to see Bill Clinton and the others responsible for this mass murder brought to 
  Justice. If you or your group fit this description then you already know that 
  their religious beliefs were central in the commission of this crime. But what 
  were their beliefs that they were willing to died for? Very few people know. 
  Yet many have opinions about what they believed, they have passed judgment 
  based solely on the words of the Murderers themselves. I have studied these 
  people and their beliefs since the Feb.28, 1993. For the last three years I 
  have lived here in Waco Texas among the survivors. I have learned a great 
  deal, which I am willing to share with you, if that's what you 
  want.
   
  Recently in my efforts to sound this 
  alarm I have posted information about the:
   
  "Waco Protest 2000" 
   
  This Protest is to be held at the gates 
  of M.Carmel Center on April 19, 2000. I have also offered you a video at the 
  cost of shipping and handling which has been reviewed by Carol Valentine. The 
  review and comments can be viewed at:
   
   alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater  under the title of 
  "New Waco Video! Clive Doyle's Boyz Exposed!" 
   
  This video shows that the people in 
  charge of Mt.Carmel are agents for  the Bill Clinton Murderers of the 
  Children of Waco. I will continue to post Updates on this "Waco Protest" and 
  information related to the teachings  of David Koresh, so that those who 
  wish an understanding might consider the nature of what it was that these 
  people gave their lives for. If you or your group wish to not receive this 
  information simply ask me or have the own of your list to ask me not to post 
  .
   
  I have received many responses 
  concerning "Waco Protest 2000". So intense has this response been that I have 
  taken a day to consider the overall attitude being expressed and the confusion 
  of what my intent is. I hope that this letter helps to bring things into a 
  clearer view. What I see is that people want to argue their religious belief 
  systems. This I am not interested in. It is a waste of everyone's time and is 
  at best useless to the subject at hand; that being the arrest and trial of 
  Bill Clinton for the Murder of the Children of Waco.
   
  It is hard for any of us not to have a 
  knee jerk reaction to the Name Koresh because we have all been victimize by 
  the ZOG Media mind control machine.
  We have been conditioned against this 
  Name by the satanic forces of the world because Koresh is the Name of God and 
  the surname of all of his children. Isa. 45:4. 
  
  Isa.45[1] Thus satin the LORD to his anointed, to Syrups, 
  whose right hand I have holder, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose 
  the loins of kings, to open before him the two leafed gates; and the gates 
  shall not be shut;[2] I will go before the, and make the crooked 
  places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder 
  the bars of iron:[3] And I will give the the treasures of darkness, 
  and hidden riches of secret places, that thou gayest know that I, the LORD, 
  which call the by thy name, am the God of Israel.[4] For Jacob my 
  servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even

Re: [CTRL] FW: Patriot Action Television Network

[uaicvtmb]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Can You Put me into Contact with the Partculars who are in charge
for the P.A.T. N. ? and get them to reply to me. As I am on Channel 15/17
up here in Northern VT. Independent Producer /Regional Anchor. Thanks.

~ Mike ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:01 PM
Subject: [CTRL] FW: Patriot Action Television Network


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 -Cui Bono?-

hmm... Press Pass anyone ?


Dave Hartley
http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave



-Original Message-
From: spiker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:23 PM
To: Recipient list suppressed
Subject: Patriot Action Television Network


Patriot Action Television Network
http://sites.netscape.net/inyourfacetv/patv

If you are willing to carry a rifle for freedom...You should also be
willing to carry a camcorder for freedom.

WE DARE YOU TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP, TRUTH IS A VIRUS!

You can help us dominate the airwaves by calling your local cable company
and asking to be placed on the local public access channel.

1.Fill out the forms.
2.Request a prime time slot.
3.Send us your time and channel and whether or not you wish to be an
affiliate Camcorder Commando or anchor.

Finally there are enough informed Americans to conduct a full frontal media
charge!

A squad of Camcorder Commandos with fixed microphones will do more damage
to the enemy than a million bullets.

THE EMPIRE IS ON THE RUN!  WE ARE ON THE MARCH!

Any General knows if the enemy is retreating...You don't let them regroup.

P.A.T.V.  will operate like an army in the field with Battalion Commanders,
Platoons, Scouts, and Spies.

Militia units should be used to this concept.  All others will be trained
in cable boot camp.

IMPORTANT NOTE!!!

Your local T.V.  News channel has NO claim on what is or isn't news.  If
you have access to the cable system, simply declare yourself a news crew
and you are "one".
No special news license exists!

P.A.T.V.  will back you up on whatever kind of press credentials you care
to use.  Create a press pass for yourself on a desktop publisher, (or have
your friends do it).  Include the words P.A.T.V.  CABLE NEWS OFFICIAL
BUSINESS---(Email us so we know.)

Here is your assignment...

Walk into your local city hall with cameraman press pass, etc

And start asking hard core questions.

(If you've been involved in the patriot fight for any length at all...You
will know what to say.)

Send us the tape.  We will edit all tapes from ALL over the country into
one powerful documentary and send it back to you, plus put it on the
Internet!

Who you gonna shoot?

(with a TV camera)

THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE POLICE CHIEF, THE SHERIFF, CONGRESSMEN,
PESKY TV ANCHOR LEFTISTS (they hate that) NEWSPAPER REPORTERS (who wouldn't
know a story if it bit 'em!)

Shoot EVERYBODY and not get arrested.  You don't leave messy bodies laying
around...PLUS...If they're really idiots in person, TV magnifies that
100X's!!!

Besides, You've been thrown out of better places...Right?!?

No.1 Rule...If they are a public servant in a public place---they're FAIR
GAME!!!

PUT IT IN THEIR FACE!

This site will be used as a news wire for affiliates...We expect you to
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Re: [CTRL] Waco Protest ALERT!

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http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/cover/c_page02.html




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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Waco Protest ALERT!


>-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
> -Cui Bono?-
>
>From: "ThePiedPiper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Did not see a link to what the church was before
>> that coward and child molester Koresh came on the
>> scene.
>
>DO you have some PROOF that Koresh ever molested anyone?
>
>Funny, before the Feds got involved, the state of Texas
>investigated charges of molestation and sexual abuse
>against Koresh, and ruled them unfounded
>
>
>June
>
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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[Andrew X98]

You are a liar.  The only 
question is are you a knowing liar or just a fool.  If you are simply 
ignorant I suggest that you visit these sights for some 
understanding.
 
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/islam/islamsbook.html
 
http://www.peopleofallah.org/Main.html

-Original Message-From: 
Foxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
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Monday, March 27, 2000 6:11 AMSubject: Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do 
something about this prosyletizing?
I am not sure if 
"canons" is the right word.  It may not be in the Koran 
itself but there is some document with seven tenets, canons, laws perhaps 
that I saw previously (l5 years ago eg) that says exactly that:  
killing an "infidel" is a noble thing.  Thus all the 
terrorism, kamikazi suicide bombings, etc.  I believe the regular 
Muslims, like a friend from Iran that I have, do not believe this.  But 
the fundies do.  I will hunt this down.
 
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new?id=HolKora&tag=public&images=images/modeng&data=/lv2/english/relig/koran&part=0
 
 
 
 
 
 

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-Caveat Lector-    -Cui 
Bono?-Terry,Where may one find info regarding the canons 
of Islam??>> PS about Islamic religion: one of their 
canons, I think it is the> sixth one, provides basically that if 
an Islamic person kills a> Christian (an "infidel") 
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[CTRL] Reno testifies she did not OK razing of Davidian complex (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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Posted: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 | 8:16 p.m.

Reno testifies she did not OK razing of Davidian complex By Terry
Ganey Of the St.  Louis Post-Dispatch Attorney General Janet Reno
testified Tuesday that she never gave tank-driving FBI agents
permission to demolish the Branch Davidians' complex at Waco in
1993, lawyers said.

But Reno, who was questioned for about two hours by lawyers for
Branch Davidian survivors, would not admit that the destruction
the tanks caused amounted to demolition of the complex, known as
Mount Carmel.

"No one will concede that what happened on April 19th was the
demolition of Mount Carmel," said Mike Caddell, one of the
lawyers who questioned Reno.  "They would all like to
characterize the damage of the building as incidental to the tear
gas insertion."

Caddell also quoted Reno as saying the FBI commanders on the
scene could have decided to demolish the building on their own if
an emergency existed and lives were in danger.  But she said that
she knew of no situation that called for the building to be
demolished.

Caddell and Jim Brannon, another plaintiffs' lawyer, deposed Reno
in advance of the May 15 trial of their wrongful-death suit
against the government.  The suit contends that the government's
handling of the siege on the complex played a role in the deaths
of about 80 people who died from fire and gunshots.
"I think she was evasive on the demolition issue," Caddell said
in an interview after the deposition.  "She went to great lengths
to avoid giving a straight answer on the issue of did they have
authority to demolish the building or not."

U.S.  attorney Mike Bradford said Reno was "forthcoming and
candid" in her answers to the questions.  He said her testimony
was consistent with what she had told Congress in the past.

Reno was questioned because she approved the FBI's plan to use
converted tanks to insert tear gas in an attempt to evict the
Davidians.
The tanks were supposed to get the tear gas into the building
using "ferret"
rounds fired from shotguns and using booms attached to the tanks
to pump the gas through windows.  But five hours into the tear
gassing plan, the tanks began ramming the building.

Caddell said Reno's testimony and that of other FBI leaders was
in "sharp contradiction" with that of two on-scene FBI
commanders: Jeff Jamar, the special agent in charge of the
operation, and Richard Rogers, the head of the FBI's hostage
rescue team.  Caddell said Jamar and Rogers believed they had the
"implied authority" to tear down the building and to use
pyrotechnic military rounds and "flashbang" explosive devices in
the final assault plan.

One point of the suit has been that demolishing the building
could have contributed to some of the deaths of the Davidians.
They may have been afraid of coming out because of the tank
assault, or exits could have been blocked by debris.  The
tank-and-tear-gas assault could also have contributed to the
start of the fire that finally destroyed the complex.

Caddell has pointed out that the tank that repeatedly rammed into
the rear of the complex and destroyed its gymnasium did not have
the equipment to insert gas.  He also said the agents' goal was
to destroy the building because later attempts to commend the
agents for their performance said their mission was to demolish
the structure.

Bradford said the deposition had included a "lengthy discussion"
on the issue of what authority Jamar and Rogers had, but Bradford
would not discuss it.

"I think the deposition will speak for itself as far as her
statements and position," Bradford said.
Caddell also said Reno testified that no one ever told her there
would be no plan to fight a fire should one develop.  "She
assumed there would be an adequate fire-fighting plan," Caddell
said.



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Re: [CTRL] Flaming (was onelist)

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[CTRL] Border accident or bounty hunting?

[Richard Sampson]

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 -Cui Bono?-

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/2328_xnjdo_border_acc.shtml

Border accident or bounty hunting?

Stories conflict as to why
Mexican
soldiers shot at U.S. border
agents


By Jon E. Dougherty
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Against a sinister backdrop of
possible bounty-hunting by
Mexican soldiers, U.S. Border
Patrol officials say they are
increasingly worried about
"armed incursions" into U.S.
territory by heavily armed
Mexican army units, citing a
recent incident in which Mexican
soldiers chased -- then fired shots
at -- Border Patrol agents.

The National Border Patrol
Council, a nationwide union that
represents all 8,250
"non-supervisory Border Patrol
employees," said although the
shooting aspect was unique,
Mexican anti-drug police and
specialized anti-narcotic army
troops make routine "incursions"
into U.S. territory.

On Mar. 14, shortly after 10 p.m.
local time, "two Mexican army
Humvees carrying about 16
armed soldiers drove across the
international boundary and into
the United States near Santa
Teresa, New Mexico." There the
vehicles pursued a Border Patrol
vehicle, which was "outfitted
with decals and emergency lights
(that were activated for much of
the pursuit) over a mile into the
United States."

The lead Mexican army vehicle,
the Border Patrol council said,
contained nine soldiers "armed
with seven automatic assault
rifles, one submachine gun, and
two .45 caliber pistols," and was
eventually apprehended by other
Border Patrol units. The second
Humvee, however, "pursued a
Border Patrol agent on horseback
and fired a shot at him. The
soldiers then disembarked their
vehicle, fired upon one more
Border Patrol agent and chased
another agent before fleeing
[back] to Mexico in their vehicle."

Union officials
said the
members of the
lead Mexican
army vehicle
were debriefed
and eventually allowed to return
to Mexico with their arms and
vehicle.

Though the incident "is the most
serious to date," the council said,
"it is but one of hundreds of
incursions that have been
reported over the past several
years," and it has led union
officials to call on Congress and
the Clinton administration to
deal with it.

"We will pursue all avenues to
bring out the truth," said Martin
L. Wilson, president of the
Border Patrol union's Local 1929,
which includes the Santa Teresa
district. "We will not let this
incident go away without
looking for answers and changes
for the betterment of the
members of our local."

Martin said the agents involved
had "promised to give us a
first-hand account of the
incident," and he emphasized
that "this local has not called for
the ouster of the (Border Patrol)
chief (Gus de la Vina), regardless
of what has been put out by
outside groups."

Mariela Melero, regional
spokesperson for the
Immigration and Naturalization
Service, based in Dallas, told
WorldNetDaily high-level
contacts with the Mexican
government regarding the
incident are in the works, but
had no specifics. The Border
Patrol is part of the INS, and
both agencies fall under the
jurisdiction of the Justice
Department.

The El Paso, Texas Border Patrol
office told WorldNetDaily, "in
both instances, Mexican soldiers
apparently were not aware they
had crossed into U.S. territory."
The El Paso office acknowledged
that two shots had been fired by
the Mexican soldiers, but said
that after "Border Patrol agents
identified themselves and
explained" that the Mexicans
were on U.S. soil, one of the
Humvees carrying the soldiers
"retreated" south while the

[CTRL] Biowarfare Testing?

[Franklin Wayne Poley]

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 -Cui Bono?-

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:48:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [BCPolitics] Planetarium Lecture by William Thomas (fwd)

From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:34:47 -0800
From: UFO*BC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Planetarium Lecture by William Thomas


UFO*BC and The Millenium Project present:

Upcoming Feature Presentation In Vancouver On April 8

  "What's Wrong With Our Skies"
  Journalist Alleges Biowarfare Testing Over Canada, US and Europe

Award-winning investigative journalist William Thomas will present
alarming and provocative findings from his eight-year investigation
into the current pandemic of autoimmune and related ailments in a
feature presentation entitled 'What's Wrong with Our Skies?' at the
Pacific Space Centre / H. R. MacMillan Planetarium, on April 8 in
Vancouver, BC.

For Lecture and Ticket Information, visit:
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For more information on William Thomas and Chemtrails, visit:
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[CTRL] "Waco Protest 2000"

[Andrew X98]

In The Name of 
God Most Gracious, Most Merciful
 
 
Dear Brothers and 
Sisters,
 
I am Andrew, "The 
Watchman" appointed by the survivors of the April 19,1993 Waco 
Holocaust.
 
On September 18, 1999 
Clive  Doyle laid the foundation to the new church. This was a Sabbath. 
Since that day I have been warning the people of this nation about the Biblical 
implications of that crime against the Laws of God and the memory of the 
Martyrs. To get this job done I have been forced into this world of computers. I 
am very new at this method of communication and as a result I have made many 
mistakes in protocol. Only time and experience will correct this.
 
I have sought out forums, 
E-Mail Lists and individuals that I thought would be interested and capable of 
understanding my message of great concern. I have studied each group and  
considered your level of thought processing in selecting you. I understood from 
the beginning that I would make mistakes. To overcome these problems I depended 
on your Christian concern and, in the absence of that, your humanity toward a 
petitioner.
 
My premises is that you 
are  people that care about the murder of these men, woman and 
children.  I believe that there are many people in this country that want 
to see Bill Clinton and the others responsible for this mass murder brought to 
Justice. If you or your group fit this description then you already know that 
their religious beliefs were central in the commission of this crime. But what 
were their beliefs that they were willing to died for? Very few people know. Yet 
many have opinions about what they believed, they have passed judgment based 
solely on the words of the Murderers themselves. I have studied these people and 
their beliefs since the Feb.28, 1993. For the last three years I have lived here 
in Waco Texas among the survivors. I have learned a great deal, which I am 
willing to share with you, if that's what you want.
 
Recently in my efforts to sound this alarm 
I have posted information about the:
 
"Waco Protest 2000" 

 
This Protest is to be held at the gates of 
M.Carmel Center on April 19, 2000. I have also offered you a video at the cost 
of shipping and handling which has been reviewed by Carol Valentine. The review 
and comments can be viewed at:
 
 alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater  under the title of 
"New Waco Video! Clive Doyle's Boyz Exposed!" 
 
This video shows that the people in charge 
of Mt.Carmel are agents for  the Bill Clinton Murderers of the Children of 
Waco. I will continue to post Updates on this "Waco Protest" and 
information related to the teachings  of David Koresh, so that those who 
wish an understanding might consider the nature of what it was that these people 
gave their lives for. If you or your group wish to not receive this information 
simply ask me or have the own of your list to ask me not to post .
 
I have received many responses concerning 
"Waco Protest 2000". So intense has this response been that I have 
taken a day to consider the overall attitude being expressed and the confusion 
of what my intent is. I hope that this letter helps to bring things into a 
clearer view. What I see is that people want to argue their religious belief 
systems. This I am not interested in. It is a waste of everyone's time and is at 
best useless to the subject at hand; that being the arrest and trial of Bill 
Clinton for the Murder of the Children of Waco.
 
It is hard for any of us not to have a 
knee jerk reaction to the Name Koresh because we have all been victimize by the 
ZOG Media mind control machine.
We have been conditioned against this Name 
by the satanic forces of the world because Koresh is the Name of God and the 
surname of all of his children. Isa. 45:4. 

Isa.45[1] Thus satin the LORD to his anointed, to Syrups, whose 
right hand I have holder, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the 
loins of kings, to open before him the two leafed gates; and the gates shall not 
be shut;[2] I will go before the, and make the crooked places 
straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars 
of iron:[3] And I will give the the treasures of darkness, and hidden 
riches of secret places, that thou gayest know that I, the LORD, which call the 
by thy name, am the God of Israel.[4] For Jacob my servant's sake, 
and Israel mine elect, I have even called the by thy name: I have 
surnamed the, though thou hats not known me.[5] I am 
the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded the, 
though thou hats not known me:[6] That they may know from the rising 
of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and 
there is none else.[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make 
peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.[8] Drop down, 
ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth 
open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousnes

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2

[Ric Carter]

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 -Cui Bono?-

> Tuesday #1 had a site called demon---something. What was it?
> I really wanted to visit, but accidentally erased the message.

Fortunately, the messages can be retrieved at http://skeptinews.pitas.com
The site you're looking for is [I think] DEMONBUSTER - let's see, here's
from the top of the page:

# My Sasquatch/UFO Hunt: HOT EMF BEAMED INTO OUR HEADS! CRASHED UFO! COYOTE
  CORPSES! YOLLA BOLLY YETI! NO UFOs! NARROW ESCAPES! TROUBLE! UFO! BIGFOOT!
  ET TRACKS! HYDROIDS! CHEMTRAILS! WITCH! PETROGLYPHS! ALIEN FACE! FEY MINE!
  GUNNERS! SASQUATCH! BIRDS ATTACK! ALIENS ABDUCT! And I got most of it on
  videotape! Proof: http://web.pitas.com/skepticon/27_03_2000.html#000327a



@ We've all seen born-agains of the overboard variety who display extreme
  obsession with demons... but  this guy is a
  shade beyond the garden-variety hellfire-and-brimstone wacko. 

Yup, it's DEMONBUSTER.COM -- and notice how I cleverly re-introduced my
travel journal, pro-FUSE-ly illustrated, which NOBODY has yet commented
upon.  I feel so despondent, I may give myself to the Reptilioids... but
before they take me, I want to remind subscribers [who haven't regularly
visited the SkeptiLog site] that the SkeptiCon Empire has expanded, with:

  http://skeptinews.pitas.com for the latest bulletins;
  http://skeptilog.pitas.com for the latest "news & views"; and
  http://skepticon.pitas.com for a pageful of connections [links]

Archives of SkeptiChat/SkeptiLog/SkeptiNews can be gotten to by clicking
on the navigation bar, located near the bottom of any of those pages.

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[CTRL] Clinton to Hold News Conference on Wednesday (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Clinton to Hold News Conference on Wednesday
Updated 3:48 PM ET March 28, 2000

By Deborah Charles

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Clinton will hold a news
conference on Wednesday where he will push his domestic agenda
and face questions on topics ranging from a probe into missing
White House e-mails to the presidential election.

White House spokesman Joe Lockhart on Tuesday said the news
conference at 2 p.m. EST (1700 GMT), the president's second
formal question-and-answer session with reporters this year, will
allow Clinton to focus on the main domestic issues he wants to
address in his final year in office.

``I expect the president ... will use tomorrow's opening
statement to go through what he hopes to get accomplished for the
rest of this year on his domestic agenda,'' Lockhart said.

He said Clinton will talk about what he hopes to do in the coming
months to try and get a host of proposals passed by a
Republican-led Congress.

``It's time for Congress to get to work. I think the president
will be sending a strong message that we can get a lot done this
year and we've got to get started soon,'' Lockhart said, noting
that the House of Representatives has only worked 25 days so far
this year.

Lockhart identified shoring up Social Security and Medicare,
providing a prescription drug benefit, gun control legislation
and a minimum wage bill as key issues for Clinton.

The president, who has been trying hard to overcome the
''lame-duck'' image in his last year in office, has repeatedly
said he does not plan to slow down even though it is an election
year.

But once he finishes his opening statement, the floor is open to
questions and Clinton can expect some tough ones.

He will likely face questions about his failure over the weekend
to revive Syrian-Israeli peace negotiations during talks with
Syrian President Hafez al-Assad in Geneva.

Domestically, he probably will be asked to comment on the latest
criminal investigation into his administration -- a Justice
Department probe of missing White House e-mails.

The department is aiming to discover whether any documents it had
sought in its probe of 1996 Democratic fund raising were among
thousands of e-mails that had not been properly archived due to a
computer foul-up.

Investigators are also pursuing charges that White House
officials intimidated computer technicians to keep the foul-up
secret. The White House says the failure to archive the e-mails
was inadvertent and officials involved have denied any
intimidation.

The latest investigation is another reminder of the scandals that
have plagued Clinton's presidency. Clinton, who was impeached and
acquitted last year in the Monica Lewinsky sex-and-perjury
affair, has worked to shape his legacy which he feels should not
be marred by the Lewinsky scandal.

Although he repeatedly dismisses talk of being a ''lame-duck''
president, Clinton will be sure to face questions on the 2000
presidential election race between his vice president, Al Gore,
and Republican George W. Bush.

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   Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day.
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[CTRL] Reno Deposed in Waco Case (fwd)

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Reno Deposed in Waco Case

By Michelle Mittelstadt
Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, March 28, 2000; 8:48 p.m. EST

WASHINGTON –– Attorney General Janet Reno testified Tuesday that
she never gave approval for tanks to demolish the Branch
Davidians' compound near Waco, Texas – and does not believe the
FBI intentionally did so – say lawyers for the sect who deposed
her for their wrongful-death lawsuit against the government.

But the Davidians' lead counsel, emerging from the rare
deposition of an attorney general, said Reno was less than
forthcoming in discussing whether the FBI intended to dismantle
the complex during its tear-gassing operation – an interpretation
rejected by Reno's aides.

"The only issue where we felt that she was less than candid was
on the demolition," Houston lawyer Michael Caddell said outside
the Justice Department. "The problem that she's got is she
testified to Congress in 1995 that the damage done to the
building was the result of tear-gas insertion. And I think it's
very difficult for her to back off of that testimony."

U.S. Attorney Michael Bradford of Texas, one of five Justice
lawyers who flanked Reno at the two-hour deposition, disputed
Caddell's claim. "We would strongly disagree with his
interpretation," he said.

"She was forthcoming and candid and answered all the questions.
Her testimony will speak for itself, but it was consistent
throughout the deposition with her past testimony," said
Bradford, who is one of the government's chief defenders in the
Davidian litigation.

For Reno, Waco has been a never-ending crisis.

The deadly standoff between the Branch Davidians and federal law
enforcement began in February 1993 – just weeks before Reno took
office – with a shootout as Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms agents tried to serve weapons warrants on Davidian
leader David Koresh. Four agents and six Davidians died.

That was followed by a 51-day siege, led by the FBI, that ended
in a fiery inferno on April 19, 1993. Koresh and about 80
followers died, some from the fire, others from gunshot wounds.
The government insists they died by their own hand.

A day later, Reno went on television to accept responsibility –
an act that earned her widespread acclaim.

Although congressional hearings that year on Waco were
overwhelmingly supportive of Reno, her decision to use tear gas
was sharply questioned during hearings in 1995, the first year
the Republicans controlled Congress.

And then the issue faded largely from view until last August,
when the government was forced to acknowledge that the FBI had
used potentially incendiary tear gas canisters despite Reno's
orders to the contrary.

Reno acknowledged Tuesday that the operations plan she approved
did not authorize the use of pyrotechnic tear gas, flash-bang
devices inside the Davidians' Mount Carmel retreat, or building
demolition, Caddell said.

"She also testified she was never told ... that there would be no
plan to fight a fire at Mount Carmel should one develop," he
said.

The plaintiffs, whose suit against the government heads to trial
in mid-May, contend the FBI's on-scene commanders ordered the
dismantling of the Davidians' complex several hours into the
operation – in defiance of the Reno-approved plan that permitted
such destruction only after 48 hours if the tear-gassing proved
unsuccessful.

While Reno refused to acknowledge deliberate demolition occurred,
Caddell said she did concede that the on-scene commanders would
have been required to consult with FBI leadership in Washington
before speeding up the plan – which didn't occur.

Bradford declined to discuss Reno's testimony, saying the federal
district judge presiding over the case ordered depositions sealed
for 30 days.

"The judge has expressed a fairly strong preference that we not
get into a public debate over depositions, so I do not want to go
point-by-point through the deposition," he said.

Caddell said he will release both Reno's deposition and a
videotape of the proceeding in 30 days.

The attorney said he does not hold Reno responsible for any
negligence at Waco.

But he is using his depositions with Reno and other high-ranking
FBI officials to buttress his contention that the FBI's on-scene
commanders – special agent in charge Jeffrey Jamar and Hostage
Rescue Team leader Richard Rogers – deviated from the approved
operations plan by escalating the tear-gas insertion and
destroying the building.

He also faults Jamar's decision to hold back fire trucks at a
checkpoint while the building was consumed by flames.

Jamar told Congress in 1995 that he kept the fire trucks at bay
for fear firefighters might be shot. The government contends any
actions Jamar or Rogers took that day fell within their
discretionary authority.

Also Tuesday, a federal judge in Waco granted a plaintiffs'
request to dismiss their part of a case against an FBI
sharpshooter.

U.S. District Judge Walter Smith said the mo

[CTRL] West 'turns blind eye to Saudi torture'

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West 'turns blind eye to  Saudi torture'

  Executions and
  amputations ignored for
  the sake of oil, says
  report
  Amnesty
  International-Saudi
  Arabia Campaign

  Dina Zaki
  Wednesday March 29, 2000

  The most fundamental human
  rights of people living in Saudi
  Arabia are violated daily yet
  the country escapes
  international condemnation
  because of its huge oil
  reserves and alliance with
  western powers, Amnesty
  International said yesterday.

  A report by the London-based
  human rights organisation
  says that on average two
  people are beheaded every
  week in the desert kingdom,
  which has increased its use of
  the death penalty, despite the
  world trend towards abolition.

  Alleged robbers have their
  hands and feet amputated,
  often after unfair trials.
  Offences related to alcohol
  consumption or breaking the
  strict moral code are
  punishable with flogging, the
  report says.

  Vague laws on "sabotage" and
  "terrorism" are used to
  prosecute perceived
  government opponents and
  political parties, elections,
  independent legislature, and
  trade unions are all banned,
  said Amnesty at the start of a
  six-month campaign to
  highlight abuses in the
  kingdom.

  The report says migrant
  workers, particularly those
  from poorer countries in the
  Middle East, African and Asia,
  are vulnerable to abuse from
  their employers as well as
  from the authorities. If
  arrested, foreign nationals
  may be tricked or coerced into
  sign ing a confession in
  Arabic, which they may not
  understand.

  Migrant workers are frequently
  tortured and ill-treated,
  Amnesty says, and are more
  likely than Saudis to be
  executed or punished by
  flogging or amputation. Many
  expatriate workers exchange
  horror stories about
  acquaintances who ended up
  in jail or were deported for
  offences ranging from traffic
  violations to arguments with
  employers.

  The report describes how
  women who go about
 

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[CTRL] Fwd: Jack E. Robinson and the untold history of Pan Am

[Kris Millegan]

This is about a book that was not published that would have told about
the end of Pan Am. (there actually is another book about the decline
of Pan Am, which I read, but a second book can always fill out the
story)

This comes from the web page of a Senate candidate in Massachusetts,
a black man running as a "Reform Republican".

Reasoning that Chappiquidick is a personal issue, or maybe out of some
more general considerations, he decided to put on his web page a whole
report about himself. (he once got a speeding ticket, lost it, forgot
abouyt it and was later arrested. He once got himself arrested for
drunk driving because his car screeched, and he admitted taking a
little wine although the case got dismissed because when he was
eventually given a Brethalizer he had .4 was was below the minimum
level for being intoxicated in Massachusetts.)

In my opinion he apologizes too much. He says that drunk driving
laws should be tougher - they really don't ned to be in terms of lowering
the alcohol level) He apologizes for not studying enough for the bar
exam several times (it was perhaps bad judgement, but the fact is it is
well known to be very hard and people are tested on things they did NOT
study n law school)

And in the ortion I excerpt here, he apologizes for the
copyright violation.

He wanted to write a whole history of Pan Am. He had no other sources
for the early period except a boo copyrighted in 1980. A lot of
people had talked to tat author who were now dead. Contrary to what
he thought was usual, the previous writer refused to co-operate and
let him quote. (if that is comntrary that is a very interesting fact)

He warned the publisher. the publisher decided not to publish. hedecided to
sue, claiming he had a right under 4 grounds. The judge actually upheld
him on one of the grounds but he decided to appeal, in order to create
a precedent.

THEN

He decided the appeals were costing him too much and he gave up the
case and agreed not to publish the book.

It's not the seeming copyright violation he needs to apologize for
- it's for winning the case and then giving it up because he for
atime he wanted to make that a test case.

In the meantime I don't know what he said about the end of Pan Am.

The website is http:\\www.robinson2000.com

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Here is an excerot from "The Robinson Report"

Copyright Case

I was always under the impression that one cannot copyright history.
Unfortunately, a federal judge in New York didn’t agree with me.

In 1992, I wrote a well-received book about the rise and fall of Eastern
Airlines. The book was called Freefall: The Needless Destruction of Eastern
Airlines and was published by HarperCollins.

[SF:I borrowed this book from the library a few times.]

Attempting to build on that success, in 1994 I wrote a similar book
recounting the rise and fall of Pan Am. It was called American Icarus: The
Majestic Rise and Tragic Fall of Pan Am. Unfortunately, the book was never
released because it was found to have violated the copyright of the only
other history of Pan Am at the time, which was written in 1980.

The author of the earlier book on Pan Am had the advantage of being able to
interview legendary Pan Am founder Juan Trippe, as well as many other
people involved in the founding of the aviation pioneer (such as the
immortal Charles Lindbergh). However, the earlier book was obviously an
incomplete history because it was written in 1980 and Pan Am didn’t go out
of business until the 1990’s. So, my plan was to retell the earlier history
and bring the story current through Pan Am’s demise in the mid-1990’s.
Unfortunately, I received no help at all from the author of the earlier
book.

I asked the author and his publisher (Random House) for permission to use
his phrasing and descriptive material because, by the time I began writing
my history of Pan Am, all of the participants had passed away (except for
Charles Lindbergh’s wife, Anne Morrow Lindbergh, whom I believe is a
youthful 100 this year). Contrary to the conventional manner in which
historians cooperate with each other, the author and Random House refused
to give me any permission at all. So, I was left on my own.

The problem was that most of the phraseology I was forced to use was
necessarily based on statements made by people who were no longer alive. So
I had no other source by which to retell the early history of Pan Am other
than using the wording and statements found in the earlier book.

Upon submission of the manuscript to my publisher, and after alerting my
publisher to the copyright issues regarding the earlier book, the publisher
decided not to go forward. Remaining determined still, I believed Pan Am’s
history, spanning every facet of aviation, was sufficiently important that
one author’s intransigence shouldn’t be allowed to stifle the telling of
the story for posterity.

As such, I brought a copyright lawsuit in New York federal court against
the author and Random House, seekin

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I don't know about Freemasonry, but the AMA is definitely under the
control of the drug companies. I found out just how much influence the
drug companies have when I had my babies. You see, infant formula is
made by both drug companies (like American Home Products, Johnson &
Johnson, and Searle) and food companies (like Nestle). WIC, the big
food supplement program for mothers and babies, insisted on giving me
vouchers to buy formula even though it was set in granite that I would
breast-feed and I told them so. Every brochure about pregnancy and
childbirth that I received had ads for formula. I was given a case of
formula in the hospital, which I sold to a neighbor. I had to fight for
rooming in, finally threatening the hospital staff that if they took my
baby out of my room, I would call the police and charge them with
kidnapping. If you read popular parenting magazines (with the exception
of Mothering), they are peppered with full-page formula ads. During
National Breastfeeding Awareness Week each August, Nestle (who makes
Carnation formula) puts on an advertising blitz. In August 1996, Prime
Time Live aired a segment on the dangers of breast-feeding. They found
3 women whose babies suffered harm because the women had breast-feeding
difficulty (La Leche League is free: http://www.lalecheleague.org ).
During the hour-long show, there were FIVE commercials for Carnation
Good Start formula. To this day I wonder if the women on that show were
real mothers or shills for Nestle/Carnation. The drug companies
definitely conspire to hook consumers as early as possible. An
excellent book on the subject is "Milk, Money and Madness" by Dia
Michels and Naomi Baumslager, ISBN 0-89789-407-3.

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[CTRL] The Battling Bickersons BS

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Yowdy all you rowdys can we please stave off the yammering about all this BS.
We all know where particular folks stand and we don't need this constant
white noise banter. Persons who continue with agendizing their remarks and
all the "stupid' tricks and ego-baths shall be put on nopost. I may be
arbitrary in my reasoning and it may just what I see, I am not gonna try and
follow all spats through who said what. I DUNNA REALLY CARE. There are
acceptable ways to act—we all know what they are. So that being said. Please
let us be civil in our discourse and remember that common courtesy
facilitates understanding.

So can it.

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Bill:

Re aspirin.  Many plants contain asprin.  Commercial asprin is derived
from coal tar; a known carcigen.  I use the dried bark of poplar to make
my asprin.  You do know, don't you, that asprin was first discovered in
plant matter?

Another thing nature doesn't make thousand dollar pills.  My belief is
to use both kinds of medicine; whichever is best.  To work with doctors
not against them.

Can someone out there tell us if the AMA is under the control of Freema-
sonary?


Sincerely,


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[CTRL] Sightings.Com Story Links 27 March 2000

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Dave Hartleyhttp://www.asheville-computer.com/dave  
Sightings Data 
Link Dump 26 March 2000
 



  
  

  
  New 
  Roswell Eyewitness To Crash Scene & ET Ship Comes 
  Forward!
  

  
  Monsanto To Sell 
  NutraSweet For $440 million
  

  
  Aspar tame, 
  "Erin Brockovich" & Title 18 Of The Criminal 
  Code
  
New Mexico...The UFO 
  State
  

  
  China 
  Gathering Forces - 'Three Roads To Death' Warning
  

  
  Rare White 
  Buffalo Shot To Death
  
Cancer Link Said Found In 
  'Celtic Mutation'
  
Serious Progress 
  Hinted In Secret Anti-Gravity Projects
  
Top British Theologian 
  Advocates Legalizing Prostitution, Drugs, Homosexuality
  
Missouri UFO Ballot 
  Initiative Language Certified
  
The Fatal Sting - The 
  Other Rabin Murder Book
  
British Nuclear Plant 
  Investigates Possible Sabotage
  
Chemtrail Complaint 
  Open Letter Sent To Boxer, Feinstein, AQMD, Etc
  
Secrets Of The Giza 
  Plateau Revealed
  
DARPA Seeks To Build 
  Exoskeletons For Super Soldiers
  
Smith & Wesson 
  Gun Deal Spurs Intense Backlash
  
Terminator & 
  Traitor Technologies Target Global Seed & Food Supply
  
Britain's 1950's 
  'Flying Saucer' Stealth Craft Revealed
  
British Crime Rate 
  Soars After Gun Ban
  
How To Defy Death - 
  Stay Thin
  
TB Epidemic Raging 
  Across Asia - Cases Soaring From China To Afghanistan
  
Terminator/Suicide 
  Seeds Still On Fast Track To Farmers!
  

  
  House Bill - 
  Repeal Income Tax, Abolish IRS, & Install National Sales 
  Tax
  
NRO Director's Presentation On 
  Future Militarization & Intel Assets In Space
  
World's Oceans 
  Warming Up
  
Europe Refuses To Ban 
  MTBE Despite US Prohibition
  
The Uncensored Gordon 
  Kahl Story
  

  
  Comparison Of 
  Invasions Of Taiwan Vs Normandy
  

  
  How The Red 
  Chinese Octopus Is Taking Control
  
Canadian Defense 
  Department Blunder - Secrets Set Sail
  
More Kidney 
  Infections In Women Becoming Drug-Resitant
  
Thief Grabs MI5 
  Laptop Loaded With Secrets
  
Vegans Advised To 
  Take Vitamin Supplements
  
'Andropause' - The Male 
  Version Of Menopause
  
Drug-Resistant 
  Strains Of TB On The Increase
  
Operation 
  Mockingbird - The Subversion Of America's Free Press By The 
  CIA
  
Confirmed: CNN Worked 
  With Army PsyOps Group During Kosovo War
  
Hundreds Of Chinese 
  Boats Intruding Taiwan Waters
  
Subliminal 
  Advertisting Alleged In Warners' 'Battlefield Earth'
  
Twelve-Year-Old Holds 
  Class At Gunpoint In Ohio
  
Mammoth Iceberg May 
  Soon Be Adrift In Antarctic
  
Dead Calves 
  Mystery In Oregon Continues To Baffle Officials
  
Herpes Is Infectious 
  And Contagious Without Symptoms
  
Geneticists Show 
  That Irish Are A Race Apart
  
Canadian Company 
  Tries To Reduce Cattle Flatulence For Environment
  
Smart Scalpal Knows 
  Which Cells Are Malignant
  

  
  Gi za 
  Plateau Ethical Research Coalition Announced
  

  
  Census Bureau Says 
  It Won't Prosecute Non-Filers
  
 With a Census This 
  Intrusive, Count Me Out
  
  Census 2000 Said 
  Legally Invalid
  
 Census - Americans 
  Being Led To Slaughter?
  
UPDATE Census-Gate - 
  Major Scandal Brewing
  
 UPDATE Americans Tell Uncle 
  Sam To Shove It Over Census
  
UPDATE The Smith & 
  Wesson Sellout - The Rest Of The Story
  

  
   GOA Announces 
  Boycott of Clinton And Smith & Wesson
  
TWA 800 - The 
  Latest NTSB Response Termed More Lies
  
Do You Know What's 
  Organic?
  
Threat To World From 
  Weapons Of Mass Destruction Soaring
  
Striking Hubble 
  Images Of Orion Nebula - Interesting Things To See
  
Near-Record Iceberg 
  Reported in Antarctica
  
New Blood Test May Be 
  Best Predictor Of Heart Attack
  
'Free-Floating' 
  Planets Discovered In The Orion Nebula
  
Official China Paper 
  Details Plans To Attack Taiwan, Seize US Assets
  

  
  China 
  Building Land-Based Nuke To Prevent First Strike
  
Iraq Close To Nuclear 
  Bomb
  
Clinton's South 
  Asia Trip Fraught With Death Threats
  
West Nile Virus May 
  Have Infected 2000 In NYC Last Year!
  
Judge OKs Vilence 
  Against TV Show
  

  
  N ASA 
  Responds To Mars Polar Lander Charges
  

  
   NASA KNEW Mars 
  Polar Lander Was Doomed - And Lied To Us
  

  
   Disney's 'Mission 
  To Mars' First Of Spate Of Coming Mars Films< /td>

Re: [CTRL]

[William Shannon]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 3/28/00 8:51:20 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I'm not your 'honey'.  Please refrain from sexist patronizing. >>

Who!
Are we like mega-uppity

<>

No! I wonder what the heck you mean!
More as in "more then ever"...or more as in more then by normal
medicine...'cause if you're talkin' the 2nd proposition sweetie...you're
quite wrong!

<>

People aren't responding to normal treatment? That's a stretch hun...and a
joke!


G'night!
Bill.

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Re: [CTRL]

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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 -Cui Bono?-

From: "William Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> More people??? I don't think so honey...

I'm not your 'honey'.  Please refrain from sexist patronizing.


> Show me the proof of this silly
> statement...and I MIGHT show you my

You're the one making the silly statement.  When asked why so many
people
find alternative medicine more effective than traditional medicine,
you
cry 'placebo!'.  When asked why so many people are being more
effectively
treated by what you called 'placebo' than by traditional medicine, you
have no answer.

Why aren't people responding positively to traditional medicine?  If
the
placebo effect is so strong, one would think that 'acceptable'
traditional
medicine would have a stronger placebo effect than treatments
considered
outside of the mainstream.


> < allopathic doctors..>>
>
> NOT if you're the one paralysed by a chiroQuack...and I'd gladly
send you
> case histories of this if you'd like..

And I'll send you reams of case histories of those paralyzed by quacks
from
the traditional school...


June

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[CTRL] Flaming (was onelist) TAKE OFF LIST PLEASE!

[Kirimaku]

SECOND 
REQUEST
PLEASE TAKE THIS OFF 
LIST BETWEEN YOU AND THE MODERATOR.
 
THANK YOU FOR YOUR 
ATTENTION TO THIS.
kirimaku

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Foxter 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
  June and List 
  Members,
   

Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

-Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
 -Cui Bono?-

From: "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>The following appears to attribute to me things I did not say.

The only bit attributed to you were the lines beginning with '>'...

Namely one line with the word 'I', and a lot of blank space...
which pretty much sums up the gist of all your posts...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Flaming (was onelist)

[Foxter]

June and List 
Members,
 
June, the history of the posts 
between you and I reflects that you baited me and challenged me 
to tell you as a Christian what I know about the Islamic religion only to 
say wham bam you are wrong wrong wrong.  Earth to June:  this 
constitutes flaming.
 
I have watched you 
bait others on this list in the past.  I have had to mark you as 
one of the unreasonable ones on this list, one intent on smearing everyone 
else with your private intepretation of facts, then castigating 
people for disagreeing with these smears.
 
I stupidly responded to your 
challenge and answered you to the best of my ability.  Then you 
slammed me.  That hurts me.  That is what you intended.  Great 
job.  What you did  hurts more than the "f" word I used in a private 
post to you this morning.  On your feigned outrage there, note that this is 
the year 2000.  Check prime time tv for the presence of that 
word.  The FCC has obviously ruled that it is not obscene, since little 
kids can be exposed to it.  Otherwise it would not be on prime 
time.   So, language 
has changed but attitudes such as yours have not. 
 
I still complain about the way 
you treat me and others (should they complain).  Whether the list does 
anything or not, I am not going to use this list to bait you as you did 
me. 
 
PS care to specify 
the "errors" and "negligible scholarship" you refer to?  Offer 
cites to bolster the integrity and credibility you deem yourself as 
having?
 
 

   
  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ynr Chyldz 
  Wyld 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 8:50 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] onelist info
  -Caveat Lector-    -Cui Bono?-From: 
  "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>I would 
  like to complain about the way June is treating me.>Will someone please 
  explain to her that she is flaming me and ask herto stopYou have 
  no idea what a flame really is.If you consider having your errors and 
  negligible scholarshippointed out as 'flaming', then I suggest you 
  unsubscribe fromsuch lists as this until you can grow a thicker skin, as 
  it'sobvious by this post, and the private obscenity you sent me 
  --which I've forwarded to your ISP with a complaint -- that youare 
  unwilling or unable to sincerely learn the truth, and aremore intent on 
  spamming your prejudice, lies, and 
disinformation.June

[CTRL] The real information regarding Onelist's Family Filter

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Since disinformation and lies are being posted to this list regarding
the recent institution of something called a 'family filter' on
Onelist, here is a post made today on the Onelist/eGroups merger email
list for list moderators which explains how the filter works.  As I
stated in my previous post, it has absolutely no effect on email
posts.


- Original Message -
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:47:08 -
From: "Rick Alber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Family Filter Question

 The Horde and Their Humans wrote:

 There are messages circulating around a lot of lists regarding the
"Family Filter"
 option. A lot of people aren't happy with it. My perception of the
filter is to block
 access while doing a search on Onelist in case the kiddies may
stumble on a list
 that has "Objectionable" material or content.

 Now, according to messages I've seen on at least three lists, this
filter is slowing
 down or blocking mail by filtering the content of messages for
objectionable
words and bouncing messages that aren't considered "suitable" if the
filter is
 turned on. I would think based on the sheer volumes of mail going
through the
 Onelist system that this would cause a backlog of mail if it didn't
in fact overload
 the servers. However, this is the perception that is starting to
circulate through
 the lists.

 Can you clarify this for me. Does the filter in fact perform this
function of reading
 content for objectionable material or words, and if so, who is
responsible for
 setting the criteria? If in fact this is not the case, then I would
suggest that a
 message from the Admin people to list owners is in order here, so
that they can
 inform members of what the filter actually entails and stop all these
rumours
 presently circulating on the lists.


 Moderator Responds: Thanks Ron.

 To clarify, the family filter only works to narrow the number of
lists that will be
 shown when one searches or browses through the groups.

 OL/EG does not review the content of messages using human eyeballs or
automated programs. Messages pass through our system with good, bad
and
 marginal content unless, and here's the only qualification, we
receive a complaint
 from a member that a group is listed in the wrong category or is
violating our
 terms of service. That TOS restricts members from engaging in a
number of
 unsavory and illegal practices.

 If we receive a complaint we'll review content for compliance with
our TOS, but
 that's the only case in which content is reviewed.

 Our TOS is located at http://www.onelist.com/info/tos.html
 .

  Rick Alber (eGroups)
 More information about the merger:
http://www.ONElist.com/local/news.html


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[CTRL] A Reason to Celebrate - Court Cuts Police Power To Search

[K]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Privacy Concerns -
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/privacyconcerns/index.html

.c The Associated Press

 By RICHARD CARELLI

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court sharply curtailed police
power to
rely on anonymous tips to stop and search people. The unanimous
ruling
Tuesday was a victory for civil rights organizations but a police
group said the nation's streets may become more dangerous.

The court said Miami police acted unlawfully when in 1995 they
searched and arrested a juvenile for carrying a gun after an
anonymous
telephone caller said someone matching his description had a
concealed
weapon.

``The question is whether an anonymous tip ... is, without more,
sufficient to justify a police officer's stop and frisk of that
person,'' Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote for the court. ``We hold
that it is not.''

She said such ``bare-bone tips'' generally do not give police the
reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct needed to justify the type
of
stop-and-frisk search the nation's highest court has allowed for the
last 32 years.

The court's unanimity caught some legal experts by surprise. Over
the
past two decades, a series of conservative-led rulings dramatically
narrowed protections offered by the Constitution's Fourth
Amendment
ban on unreasonable police searches and seizures.

``This was a slam-dunk victory for individual rights,'' said James
Tomkovicz, a University of Iowa law professor who represented the
American Civil Liberties Union and other groups in a
friend-of-the-court brief attacking searches based on anonymous
tips.

``The court made clear it is not going to sacrifice personal privacy
whenever the magic word 'firearm' is mentioned,'' he said. ``That
message was made even more emphatic by the fact the court was
unanimous.''

The liberal groups had attracted an unlikely ally - the National Rifle
Association, whose friend-of-the-court brief had urged the justices to
protect ``the peaceful carrying of a firearm.''

But the National Association of Police Organizations reacted
angrily.
``We are disappointed and, frankly, baffled by the court's decision,''
said Robert Scully, the group's executive director.

``As a consequence of this ruling, the danger to law enforcement
officers and the general public will significantly increase, and we
fear that more officers and more members of the public will be
assaulted and murdered,'' he said.

In the Miami case, a youth identified in court records only as J.L.
was arrested as a result of an anonymous tip that three black
youths
were standing outside a pawn shop and that the one in a plaid shirt
was carrying a gun.

The court ruled that the search of J.L. violated his Fourth
Amendment
rights and, as a result, the seized gun cannot be used as evidence
against him. The decision upheld a Florida Supreme Court ruling
that
had suppressed use of the gun as evidence.

Ginsburg made clear the ruling also covers anonymous tips about
people
carrying illegal drugs. But the decision stopped short of saying
whether anonymous tips can spark lawful police searches when
``the
danger alleged ... might be so great as to justify a search even
without a showing of reliability.''

For example, Ginsburg wrote, a report of a person carrying a bomb
would not necessarily be judged by the same standard.

Police also might get more leeway ``where the reasonable
expectation
of Fourth Amendment privacy is diminished, such as airports and
schools,'' she said.

The fact that police found the gun on J.L. held little sway with the
court. ``That the allegation ... turned out to be correct does not
suggest that the officers prior to the frisks had a reasonable basis
for suspecting J.L. of engaging in unlawful conduct,'' Ginsburg said.
``The reasonableness of official suspicion must be measured by
what
the officers knew before they conducted their search.''

Allowing such searches ``would enable any person seeking to
harass
another to set in motion an intrusive, embarrassing police search of
the targeted person simply by placing an anonymous call,'' the
court
said.

On the Net: For Florida vs. J.L: http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct;
click on ``this month's decisions.''

AP-NY-03-28-00 1551EST

--
Kathleen

He who would make his own liberty secure must guard
even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates
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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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 -Cui Bono?-

From: "nessie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The New Haven Panthers were charged with a murder that it later
turned out
> had been committed by an undercover agent assisted by a paid
informer.

I'm a native Nutmegger, and live in the New Haven metro area...so I
have a
singularly local perspective.

The New Haven police were notoriously corrupt in those days (probably
still
are, but let's not go there)...a few years after the Panther trial, in
the
wake of Watergate, it was revealed that the New Haven police had been
conducting it's own COINTELPRO program, replete with informers,
infiltrators,
and a wiretap of almost everyone in the state...it became sort of a
badge of
honor, to find one's name on the list of people whom the New Haven
police
had decided were worthy of being spied upon...

And we're not talking just leftist activists on this list...we're
talking
the mayor (actually almost all the mayors of the major cities in the
state),
city councilmen, state legislators, local business bigwigs...

And yes, it was revealed that the police put a lot of effort into
infiltrating moles into various groups (some pretty innocuous groups
at
that, not just the obvious ones), moles who immediately agitated for
violence...


> I helped organize the demo against it. 350,000 people showed up
> on the New Haven Green, across the street from the court house. The
pigs
> took the hint and backed down.

Hey, we possibly could have met each other on the Green!  ;-)


> Read up. Then talk. That way you don't look like a fool.

Watch it...Foxter will say YOU are flaming her/him/it too...


June

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Re: [CTRL] onelist info

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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From: "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I would like to complain about the way June is treating me.
>Will someone please explain to her that she is flaming me and ask her
to stop

You have no idea what a flame really is.

If you consider having your errors and negligible scholarship
pointed out as 'flaming', then I suggest you unsubscribe from
such lists as this until you can grow a thicker skin, as it's
obvious by this post, and the private obscenity you sent me --
which I've forwarded to your ISP with a complaint -- that you
are unwilling or unable to sincerely learn the truth, and are
more intent on spamming your prejudice, lies, and disinformation.


June

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Re: [CTRL] THE ARCH CONSPIRATOR by Len Bracken

[William Shannon]

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In a message dated 3/28/00 12:20:13 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<   Len Bracken's new book, The Arch Conspirator, takes a deeper look at
 conspiracy in history than most other books ever have. >>

Man, I bought the book...I mean Kenn Thomas and the GORGEOUS and BRILLIANT
Acharya S. can't be ALL wrong, right?
But I find this tome to come up short of expectations...and I'd GLADLY
suggest many other works that are more "on-point" than this...
(I KNEW I should've bought LOST SCIENCE...or another copy of 'Char's
incredible "THE CHRIST CONSPIRACY)

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[Foxter]

 It sure matters to 
me.  Why do you feel it doesn't matter?
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet 
writes:>>The following appears to attribute to me things I did not 
sayIt doesn't matter who said it

Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[nessie]

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 -Cui Bono?-

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>
>The following appears to attribute

>to me things I did not say



It doesn't matter who said it.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [healthfraud] A Homeopathic Fable

[William Shannon]

I drank a homeopathic remedy.

I urinated and flushed.

Soon the remedy will spread throughout the world, becoming ever more powerful as it 
becomes more diluted.

Anybody who appreciates this, please send money.

Do I have to buy a suit and tie for the Nobel Prize ceremony?

Re: [CTRL] About Wicca

[Foxter]

Thank you 
kindly.
When my work schedule clears I will 
study these.
Best to you,
Terry

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Robert F. 
  Tatman 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 4:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] About Wicca
  
  Foxter, the central law of Wicca--the so-called "Wiccan Rede"--is stated 
  in a number of ways: "An thou harm none, do what thou wilt shall be the whole 
  of the Law;" "As ye give, so shall ye get;" or (my favorite rendering) "What 
  you send, returns three times" (sometimes rendered as "The effect of a sending 
  returns multiplied to the sender"). There are a lot of "laws" of magic(k), 
  most of which boil down to "If it works, it's true." If you're really 
  interested in thoughtful neopaganism and Wicca, try these two sites: Http://www.neopagan.net/ (Home Page of 
  Isaac Bonewits, Archdruid Emeritus of Ar nDraíocht Fein) and http://www.well.com/user/zthirdrd/WiccanMiscellany.html ("The 
  Wiccan and Faerie Grimoire of Francesca de Grandis"). I have found these two 
  sites to be the sanest neopagan sites on the Web, free of the usual New Age 
  pseudointellectual psychobabble.
   
  Bob
   
  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
Foxter 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:13 
PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] About Wicca

Are there other laws 
pagans live by?  Are they on the net somewhere?
Thanks.
 

Re: [CTRL]

[William Shannon]

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 -Cui Bono?-

In a message dated 3/27/00 9:51:10 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Bill:

 Is it true that much of traditional medicine is derived from folk medi-
 cine and traditional medicine synthesied herbal medicine and got a pat-
 ent and charge much money for it? >>


Well Don, it's true that some drugs are derived from primative
nostrums...however, you'd have to eat a crapload of Willow Tree bark to
attain the analgesic effect of one aspirin, and you'd have to eat a lethal
amount of potatoes to amount to one of the wussy white Valiums (2mg)...so
what's your point? Yeah, there are many meds that are either reproductions or
concentrations of herbs and such...would you suggest that raw opium is
preferrable to morphine?

Bill

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>From http://www.hotcoco.com/opinion/stories/xxciarrocca_2326.htm

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Opinion


 HOME : OPINION

Published Sunday, March 26, 2000
Clinton world's top gunrunner
By Michelle Ciarrocca
COMMENTARY

EVEN AS PRESIDENT Clinton duels with the National Rifle Association over the
issue of tougher domestic gun controls, his administration is the No. 1
gunrunner around the world.

U.S. companies control 50 percent of the international arms market, and 160 of
the world's 190 nations receive arms or military training from the United
States. While U.S. officials claim our arms exports promote democracy,
stability and peace around the world, the reality is quite the opposite: The
majority of U.S. arms exports to the developing world go to dictators or human-
rights abusers.

Two pending U.S. arms packages -- one for Colombia and the other for Turkey --
underscore the dangers of the Clinton administration's policy. Both Colombia
and Turkey are major recipients of U.S. weapons and military aid. Both are
embroiled in civil wars, which have cost more than 30,000 lives (mostly
civilian) in each country. And, in both cases, between 1 million and 2 million
people have been internally displaced.
Colombia and Turkey also have horrific human-rights records. Some of these
abuses have been carried out with U.S.-supplied weapons, and others have been
committed by officers trained by U.S. forces.
Reading the State Department's "Country Report on Human Rights," released just
weeks ago, one could almost mix up the two entries. In Colombia, the
"government's human rights record remained poor." In Turkey, "serious human
rights abuses continued." Both Turkish and Colombian armed forces carried out
extrajudicial killings. Excessive use of force and the use of torture were
commonplace in both countries. And security forces were rarely convicted or
reprimanded in either country.
In Colombia, a nation that has been plagued with violence for more than 40
years, the United States has played a pivotal role in supplying weapons for the
Colombian armed forces to carry out a counterinsurgency war under the guise of
fighting drug traffickers.

Turkey has been engaged in its own counterinsurgency war for more than 15
years, with the United States continually overlooking the government's
disastrous human-rights record and lack of basic freedoms because of Turkey's
strategic location and its status as a NATO ally.

About 80 percent of Colombia and Turkey's sizable war chest comes from the
United States. And more is on the way.

Turkey hopes to acquire 145 attack helicopters, 90 utility and heavy lift
helicopters and 1,000 main battle tanks from the United States, to name just a
few of the priority projects.
For Colombia, Congress will be debating President Clinton's $1.7 billion
emergency supplemental aid package during the next few weeks to decide how many
Sikorsky Blackhawk and Bell Huey helicopters to include.
U.S. armament companies have their lobbyists patrolling the halls of Congress.
As one lobbyist said, "It's business for us. ... I'm just trying to sell
helicopters."
Special interests aside, the timing of these deals couldn't be worse.
Peace talks between Colombian President Andres Pastrana and Colombia's largest
guerrilla group -- the Colombian Revolutionary Armed Force -- have been taking
place for more than a year. Further military involvement by the United States
could be disastrous for the peace process, as the FARC has
warned against more U.S. military involvement in Colombia.

In Turkey, the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) has been fighting for autonomy
since 1984. But it announced a unilateral cease-fire last summer with the hopes
of finding a peaceful resolution to the conflict. PKK members have even turned
themselves in to Turkish authorities to show their sincerity. Yet, the Turkish
military has resisted these peace overtures, preferring an all-out military
victory.

More U.S. weapons are the last things Colombia and Turkey need.
If arms transfers provide influence with these countries, as the United States
says they do, then the Clinton administration should be using that leverage to
press for an end to the killing of innocent civilians. The opportunity exists
for the United States to help put an end to the violence that has beleaguered
these nations for far too long.

Instead of fanning the flames of conflict, the United States should be
supporting peace initiatives.

Ciarrocca is a research associate at the World Policy Institute in New York
City. She can be reached at pmproj@ progressive.org or by writing to
Progressive Media Project, 409 East Main St., Madison, Wis. 53703.

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[CTRL] The Neighbourly Kid

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""What President Clinton has done is given the European Commission effective
command over American troops.""


>From AntiWar.Com

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Airstrip One
by Emmanuel Goldstein
Antiwar.com
March 28, 2000
NATO is past its sell by date

FROM THE MOUTHS OF BLAIRS
It is not often that a politician tells the truth, and with Tony Blair, it is
even more notable. So when he said on the now infamous BBC2 documentary (made
by the NATO apologist Alan Little) that to not have occupied Kosovo "would have
dealt a devastating blow to the credibility of NATO" he was extremely
revealing. What he said, after going through the false platitudes of stopping
(nonexistent) genocide or (de) stabilising Europe was that one of the Kosovo
mission’s purposes was to keep NATO together. The question is, does NATO need
to be saved?

BUT WHAT IS NATO FOR?
NATO’s original purpose was clear. It was designed to defend European countries
against an aggressive Soviet power, and it did this by a public warning that to
breach the borders of one of the signatories was to breach the borders of all.
That was the North Atlantic Treaty. The O, or Organisation, that completed NATO
was merely a way of making sure that the armies worked well together if the
dreaded invasion came. Surely that need has passed? Not if you listen to Mr.
Blair, NATO had to be saved and not just NATO but its credibility. And they
were willing to lose 2000 soldiers a day. Why?

THE LAW OF BUREAUCRATIC SURVIVAL
There is a reason for the survival of NATO, which is that it suits the
bureaucrats who work there. They are paid at the highest national rate and so
in almost all cases they are paid more than they would be on regular duty, in
some cases a multiple of their regular pay. It must be a waste of money, any
organisation whose original purpose no longer exists is a definition of a waste
of money. However, if it were merely a matter of a waste of our money I would
say that perhaps there are other bigger bits of waste to attack. Nevertheless,
the issue is more important than that, much more important.

WHO DECIDES?
The idea of a security pact is just about consistent with parliamentary
sovereignty. The response to an invasion of another country may be automatic,
but the legislators, and ultimately the voters, have the right to decide just
which countries their sons will be fighting to defend. An offensive alliance
has no such safeguards. We will not know the time nor the place. Where will
NATO next decide to attack? We really do not know whether it will be Serbia, or
Kosovo or even Russia. In Britain, many people are rightly getting steamed up
about the inability to decide their own interest rates or taxation policies.
What few are seeing is the right to make the crucial decisions of the state,
the very right to make war or peace, has been taken away already. It was taken
away the moment that NATO decided that it could attack a sovereign country.

THE AMERICAN DIMENSION
We now need a quick detour to explain the European Army (EDSI). Many people
have got a dreadfully bad picture of what the European Army will actually mean.
It is a takeover by the (military virgins) of the European Commission of the
decision making in NATO. This is not solely about a European pillar of NATO; it
is even less an American disengagement from Europe itself. What it is is a
decision-making mechanism, which decides which powers NATO should fight. Many
British Eurosceptics worry that it will mean American troops will go home. They
are wrong. American troops will stay here. The Europeans alone wish to decide
who they fight. America in short will underwrite, with her money and her men,
the ambitions of the European commission. The Europeans even want to cut their
military spending. This is bigger than misplaced cigars or betraying Ulster, it
is even bigger than allowing China access to twenty-year-old missile
technology. What President Clinton has done is given the European Commission
effective command over American troops. That is treachery in anyone’s book.

INVENT-A-THREAT
Many of us see the arrogant way in which NATO struts around the world, and
despair at the casual way in which enemies are made. The casual creation of so
many enemies may look like (indeed it probably is) carelessness, but consider
just who benefits. The NATOcrats do not do too badly from new and exotic
threats. It does not matter to them that hegemony does not last forever, and
that many of those we alienate will wait for a more advantageous time to attack
us. However, remember that the enemies we have made have not just been Iraq,
Serbia and other "rogue" states. The enemies that we are making are a
humiliated Russia, an infuriated China and a resentful India. I know it may be
odd to bring in the history of Astronomy, but Copernicus when he proved that
the Sun did not revolve around the earth. At some time in the future we may
find that we are revolving around a Sino-Russian axis tha

Re: [CTRL]

[William Shannon]

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In a message dated 3/27/00 9:17:03 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< You obviously haven't dealt with insurance companies lately...they are
 NOT
 interested in placating anyone, except their investors.  They
 routinely
 deny treatments left and right, in  >>


Umm, actually I have...and I agree with you for the most part...however,
there is a species called the "professional patient"...you know, those whose
charts are thicker then Giddon's Rise And Fall...who pester and bitch until
the ONLY recourse left is to refer said complainer to an outright quack in
the hopes that the immune system will time it's duty accordingly...

<>

More people??? I don't think so honey...Show me the proof of this silly
statement...and I MIGHT show you my

<>

Well, they often do!

<>

NOT if you're the one paralysed by a chiroQuack...and I'd gladly send you
case histories of this if you'd like..

Bill.

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[CTRL] Form SSA-L996 - An Answer To The Social Security Number Question:

[uaicvtmb]

Whereas, 
Several Individuals had requested Info on Social Security 
Numbers, 
Here is a message I received from Christopher Hansen, who is 
running
for U.S. Congress Ist District in Nevada. Perhaps the info 
will help.
~ Mike ~
U.A.I.C. - VT.
   


From: Christopher 
Hansen 
To: Teaparty 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: TeaParty - Form SSA-L996
From: Christopher Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I am still trying to get the form for the original SSN application. 
The Form Number is SSA-L996 
I was informed that this form has no OMB. 
I was told by the first person I spoke to that no such form existed. 
I was also told that they could not send me the forms without a ZIP code. 
I told her I did not have one and she hung up on me. 
I called back. 
(this is a quick call. The wait was only about 30 seconds. Press 0 when you 
hear the first instruction and it will go to a rep.) 
The supervisor informed me that I would receive 30 of them in about a week. 
They informed me that they do not keep evidence of U. S. citizenship in their 
files. 
If you call 1-800-772-1213 you can request form SSA-L996 for yourselves. 
I recommend that you get at least thirty of them and hand them out to all 
your freedom fighting friends. 
If we start challenging this all over the USA I think it will be more 
effective. 
You should get the new SS-5 form too. You can download the new SS-5 form 
at: 
http://www.ssa.gov/online/forms.html 
  
It is very interesting as the restrictions are quite clear. You must PROVE 
you are a U.S. citizen. That is a tough requirement. 
On the instructions for form SS-5 page 1 Section Heading "HOW TO COMPLETE THE 
APPLICATION" #3 
3. If you check "other" for CITIZENSHIP, provide a document from the 
Federal/State or local agency explaining why you need a Social Security number 
and that you meet all the requirements for the benefit or service except for a 
number. 
I called the 1-800 number and asked Mrs. Mathis to please send me a list of 
the "requirements for the benefit". She informed me that they would research 
those today and mail those out to me tomorrow. 
I also asked if if she would please send me a the definition of U. S. citizen 
since I could not find it in the USC. I felt this was important since I was 
required to prove I was a U. S. citizen so I think I should know what it means. 
She agreed and said she would find it. 
We will see what happens. 
Christopher Hansen for Congress, Nevada District 
1   


 
 

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[CTRL] Fw: Indianapolis Baptist Temple Update

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From: spiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 9:45 AM
Subject: Indianapolis Baptist Temple Update


> Source:
> Sierra Times
> http://www.SierraTimes.com/
>
> Indianapolis Baptist Temple Update
> http://www.SierraTimes.com/arpz032800.htm
>
> Report By : Paul Zimmerman
> Posted: March 28, 2000
> E-mail Paul Zimmerman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Zimmerman)
>
> SierraTimes'
> Previous Report on the Baptist Temple
> http://www.SierraTimes.com/arpz030400.htm
>
> Related Editorial:
> How to Take down a Baptist Temple by J.J.  Johnson
> http://www.SierraTimes.com/edjj022900.htm
>
> INDIANAPOLIS - Rev.  Greg Dixon and his congregation are still waiting to
> find out the fate of their church as their appeal makes its way through
the
> convoluted Federal justice system.  They've appealed the decision by Judge
> Sarah Evans Barker to vacate their church on April 10, 2000 so the IRS can
> seize the church and sell it.  Their appeal is currently before the 7th
> Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago.  That court has denied the church's
> request for a stay to prevent the seizure of the church, but the court has
> said that it will expedite the church's appeal in an effort to resolve
this
> dispute.  Oral arguments are scheduled for May 10th.
>
> Rev.  Dixon doubts that any action will be taken with regard to the April
> 10th deadline set by Judge Barker since the case is under appeal, but he
> does not know that for a fact.  As he said during a telephone conversation
> today, "the judge has the power to do anything she likes..."
> If she wants to proceed with the seizure even though her decision is being
> appealed, she has that power, but again Rev.  Dixon expects that no action
> will be taken against the church until the appeal process has been
completed.
>
> Rev.  Dixon advised that if they do not win the appeal they are prepared
to
> take the case to the US Supreme court.
>
> When asked how this case has affected his congregation he replied that
over
> the past month 10 - 15 new families have joined the church and that
> currently 40 - 50 individuals are currently enrolled in their membership
> classes.  In fact he said that Sunday's (3/26/00) attendance was up over
> what it had been a year ago.  Rev.  Dixon indicated that the church's
> school enrollment has been adversely affected by the continual attacks by
> the IRS.  Many students who attend the school are not members of the
church
> and are not as well informed about this issue and have left the school and
> enrollment at the school has been impacted.
>
> When asked what people can do to support the church Rev.  Dixon replied to
> "pray for us" for strength and the courage to not compromise their faith
or
> principles.  He also remarked that their legal expenses currently exceed
> $30,000 and that any contribution would be appreciated.  To make
> contributions to the church please contact them at (317) 783-6753.  Their
> address is: 2711 E.  East Street, Indianapolis, IN 46225.
>
> The church does not have any plans for any special events for April 10th,
> but they do intend to have a rally once the appellate court has made its
> decision.  It will be up to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals as to whether
> that rally will be a victory celebration or another call for support
> against the Department of Justice.
>

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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[Foxter]

Nessie,
The following appears to attribute 
to me things I did not say.
 

  - Original Message - 
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  is a bald faced lie. Capitalizing it don't make it true. I know. Iwas 
  there. So was every major paper in the country. Go to the library andread 
  the microfilm. Don't listen to this fool. Find out for yourself whichof us 
  is telling the truth.The New Haven Panthers were charged with a murder 
  that it later turned outhad been committed by an undercover agent assisted 
  by a paid informer.Panther founder Bobby Seale was charged with conspiracy 
  and dragged fromOakland CA to New Haven to stand trial. It was an obvious 
  attemptedlynching. I helped organize the demo against it. 350,000 people 
  showed upon the New Haven Green, across the street from the court house. 
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2

[Ric Carter]

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SkeptiNews 000328b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterweek's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/17_03_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* NEW path to notices, excuses, sightings etc: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No defrocked RC priests were ritually tortured to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Visualize World Keanu! http://www.empirenet.com/~rdaeley/skc/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Space symphony: We are the worlds - Natural emissions cause Earth, planets
  to sing like canaries - any louder, and we'd all be deafened. Huh? Whadja
  say? Eh? http://space.com/science/planetearth/space_symphony_000323.html

# Also - Listening to the Music of a Sphere:
  http://space.com/science/solarsystem/sounds_solarsystem_000131.html
# Dynamics of Earth's Core Reveal Hurricanes Under Your Feet:
  http://space.com/science/planetearth/core_cyclones_991110.html

: Have you heard any/many/all planet[oid]s lately? Do you prefer celestial
body that sing, chant, grunt, flash, wiggle, burp, fart, meditate? Is your
home planet[oid] artistic, musical, dormant? Does this affect your attitude?

# Image Probe In Orbit, Ready To See The Invisible. Instruments on the IMAGE
  spacecraft will provide never-before-seen global images of Earth’s magnet-
  osphere – an area of space around our planet that is controlled by Earth's
  mag.field. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000328085849.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Canada: The Great Hacking North? A US intelligence agency has found that
up to 80% of foreign attacks on US computers either originate or pass thru
Canada. This follows suspicions that some recent hacker attacks were routed
through Canadian computers. http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/nb/nb5.htm

# Is the US stealing trade secrets from the EU? Are EU secrets worth theft?
  http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/03/27/industrial.theft/index.html
# FBI:CyberCrimeWave! www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2486464,00.html
# Melissa @ 1: http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2474610,00.html

: Have you hacked internationally lately? D'ya use cybertools for good/evil/
profit? When the world is totally cybernetized, will we all be susceptible
to evil hacking? What nations/people/tools would you most like to hack? Why?

# Giving computers a sense of touch - virtual tools doing our dirty work:
  http://www.star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:COMP12/1:COMP120326100.html
# SMARTER, SHARPER KNIVES - 'Smart scalpel' spots cancer cells (BBC)
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_686000/686892.stm
@ Relax, Alexander-style: http://www.alexandertechnique.com/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Alarmist London cops warn banks to watch for "cyberterrorists." LOOK OUT!
  There's a Cyberterrorist about! London police are warning banks to beware
  of cyber terrorists when recruiting staff. Anarchist sympathisers may try
  to infiltrate companies & sabotage computer systems to help the anti-City
  protests expected in May: http://www.theregister.co.uk/000328-16.html

# 1,000 Biotech Foes Protest in Boston - "Our genes are not for sale!" Oh,
  yes they are... http://www.azstarnet.com/public/dnews/000327iBiotech.html
# AntiBiotech Protest Draws Thousands: http://www.ainfos.ca/ainfos04336.html
# A16's General Advice for Protesters: http://www.ainfos.ca/ainfos04334.html

: Have you infiltrated a financial/biotech/internet/marketing firm lately?
Should/can/will you subvert capitalism from the inside? Is capitalism bigger
/stronger/smarter/better than you? Can anarchy ever beat organized greed??

# GeneMap Only BabyStep: www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,34857,00.html
@ GENETICS REVOLUTION: http://www.time.com/time/daily/special/genetics/
@ Temporary Autonomous Zone: http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/taz.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Cult deaths reach 700, more bodies found.(CBC) Another mass grave has been
  discovered at the home of an excommunicated Catholic priest, and doomsday
  cult leader, in Uganda. Police are also working at three more sites used
  by the Christian Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments.
  They are expecting to uncover more mass graves. Mass murder, not suicides:
  http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/2000/03/28/ugandacult000328

# MASS GRAVES- CATHOLIC SECT: http://cbc.ca/cp/world/000328/w032880.html
# More bodies from doomsday sect - Searchers stunned by overpowering stench:
  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Africa/2000-03/stench280300.shtml

: What's your favorite doomsday cult? Have you organized any mass murders
lately? D'ya prefer strangulation, poisoning, burning-at-stakes, breaking-
on-wheels, impalement, fat-ingestion? Do McFooders burn better than Vegans?
If Decalogues are posted in schools, will more school mass-murders result?

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Re: [CTRL] the battle for your mind

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Hi !

Below please find the author's URL for "The Battle for Your Mind - Persuasion
& Brainwashing Techniques Being Used on the Public Today."

Sincerely,  Neil Brick




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from http://www.sutphenpublishing.com/articles/battle.htm

"The Battle for Your Mind Persuasion & Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On
The Public Today By Dick Sutphen"

". On numerous occasions, the information has helped to bring public
attention to the misuse of conversion tactics. Some government agencies don't
want this information generally known, for the techniques are used in armed
forces basic training. Some Christian Fundamentalists, cults, and
human-potential trainings would also prefer that the public remain unaware of
how they are recruiting new members.
--
--
Summary of Contents:

The Birth of Conversion / Brainwashing in Christian Revivalism in 1735
The Pavlovian explanation of the three brain phases
Born-Again preachers: Step-by-step how they conduct a revival and the
expected physiological results
The "voice roll" technique used by preachers, lawyers and hypnotists
New trance-inducing churches
The six steps to conversion
The decognition process
Thought-stopping techniques
The "sell it by zealot" technique
True believers and mass movements
Persuasion techniques: "Yes set," "Imbedded Commands," "Shock and Confusion"
and the "Interspersal Techniques," Subliminals
Vibrato and ELF waves
Inducing trance with vibrational sound
Even professional observers will be "possessed" at charismatic gatherings
The "only hope" technique to attend and not be converted
Non-detectable Neurophone programming through the skin
The medium for mass take-over "

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Re: [CTRL] How and why mind programming works

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Hi !

Below please find information on the article, "How and why mind programming
works. "

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

PS By printing this article, I am not necessarily recommending the use of
this person's products. As always, please use caution when checking out new
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This may be triggering for survivors of abuse.


from http://www.sutphenpublishing.com/articles/howmind.htm

"How and why mind programming works by Dick Sutphen...

Think of your brainwave in Alpha or Theta as a piece of chewing gum stretched
out. It gets thin and easily breaks apart if hit with new programming. When
your brain reorganizes itself, it integrates the new information. In other
words, it accepts the new idea. The more it hears the programming, the more
it will accept the idea as reality."

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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

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<DIV><FONT size=2>From: Mike [U.A.I.C.- VT.] <A 

href="mailto:uaicvtmb@together.net">mailto:uaicvtmb@together.net</A></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>To: Terry [a/k/a FOXTER] </U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 17:55 Hrs. Est. 

[5:55 Hrs. Est. Civilian Time}</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>Subject: Reply to Your&nbsp; Reply: 

</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>Dear Terry:</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>I had replied to the message below just now 

along with the other message which</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>you sent.&nbsp; I do agree with you. There 

are a lot of "stupid Christians" as well as</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>"Stupid Musloms, etc.". I have a problem with 

the "Fundie Extremeists" on Both</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>Sides. At least the "Fundie Christian's" 

don't want to Nuke Us. Like the "Fundie</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>Muslom Extremeists". I have NO USE FOR THE 

LATTER. As I almost lost a </U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>Buddy to them when he was Marine Guard at the 

U.S. Embassy in Iran; when</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>President Carter was President. The only 

reason we got them back at all was</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>they were afraid that President Reagan would 

invade them. Too Bad that President</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>George Bush didn't let us Finish Nailing 

"Saddam" when we had everyone over</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>there. Looks like a "Cliff Note's" plot 

outline for seeds for the next conflict. But</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>That's my educated opinion. BTW does the 

"moniker" Foxter mean anything?</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>And for the "group" I am NOT going to 

"prosytetize anyone". Nor AM I going to</U></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><U>take "Excess Pontification" or diatribes. As 

We are ALL Adults here, I h

Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

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OK - How About: Can You Describe in 25 Words or Less
Who, What You Believe in and Why? I don't think so.

~ Mike ~
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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

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To: Retxof:

When someone types on the
keyboard in the wee morning
hours, with a broken wrist:
there are bound to have a few
spelling errors. You don't catch
because you are too damn tired!
If the message refers to me. Plus
I had serious E-Mail Problems
due to the computer locking up.

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Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Ralph Nader Secrets

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To: Purdy:

BROVO !!! Right to the Point !!! -

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Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

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To: Nesse, et. el:

RE: "Black Panther Trail" in New Haven, CT. in the 1970's:

Nice Reply, I was there Too. Apparently I had a "different perspective"
than you did. On the other side of the coin as it were. I am sure you are
not refering to me in your post. So I will not take it as an "insult".
However
I know "Leftest Hillary" Has Not Changed her politics. I was a "Patriot"
then just I am now. The below quote fits the situation of all the "Pseudo
Intellectuals", who had the  and promoted the destruction of our
Country, innocient people using "Domestic or Foreign Terrorists". They
are still here under different control and names. The outcome is the same
and they are our enemies of the Republic.

  "We Are Not Amused by Pontification with Intellectual Flatulence".
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*** "De Oppresso Liber ***

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Re: [CTRL] FC: Cyberpatrol hearing report from Boston

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McCullagh Mobile Account wrote:
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> I'm in Boston on my Palm, so I'll keep this short. Mattel has acquired rights to 
>cphack.exe and has threatened contempt of court charges for sites mirroring it. Judge 
>Harrington will decide by Wednesday whether to turn the restraining order into an 
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[CTRL] OT: Judge Puts Brakes on Census Bureau (fwd)

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shtml

Judge puts brakes on  Census Bureau

Attorney: 'Huge victory for the Constitution and for
privacy-loving Americans'


 By Sarah Foster
 © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Americans who refuse to answer questions they consider invasive
on their Census questionnaires will be able to sleep a little
easier -- at least for now.

 A federal judge ruled yesterday that the
Census Bureau has no automatic right to ask questions felt to be
personal or intrusive and that it cannot threaten or prosecute
citizens who refuse to answer such questions.

 U.S. District Judge Melinda Harmon granted
attorney Mark Brewer, of the Houston-based firm of Brewer and
Pritchard, a temporary restraining order in a Census suit filed
by five Houston, Texas, residents. Attorneys for the government
conceded that none of the five plaintiffs will be subject to
actual or threatened prosecution during this litigation which is
expected to go to the U.S. Supreme Court.

 The ruling is especially far-reaching.

 "For the moment, this will prevent
prosecution against any American who chooses not to answer
questions other than the number of people living at their address
-- that's all that's required by the Constitution," Brewer told
WorldNetDaily. "It's a huge victory for the Constitution and for
privacy-loving Americans, because we now have a ruling in a
federal court case.

"The Census Bureau cannot extract this information under threat
of criminal prosecution -- that was the issue I presented to the
court," he said.

 The penalty for not answering each question
asked on the forms is $100. False answers can cost up to $500 in
fines.

 The five -- Edgar Morales, Laique Rehman,
Nouhad Bassila, George Breckenridge and William Jeffrey Van Fleet
-- are American citizens.

 Brewer said his clients are not part of any
organized group, "though that is what people have assumed. They
are just ordinary people who want to be counted, but who do not
want to give up their privacy to do so. That's the bottom line."

 "What the court did today," Brewer
explained, "was to order that the Bureau could neither threaten
nor actually prosecute these people for not answering any
question other than how many folks live at that address. It's the
first time to my knowledge that this has happened in the 213
years since we've had a Constitution."

 As he put it, "We hit a home run."

 Recalling his day in court, Brewer said he
told the judge she was "the only barrier standing between
government on the one hand and these five -- I think very brave
-- people and the American people generally on the other. I
pointed out that the government lawyer had just told her that he
can ask anything he darn near pleases -- where does it stop?"

 Almost as important as the ruling itself is
that the government conceded that the plaintiffs have "standing,"
meaning they had a right to bring an action against the Census
Bureau in the first place.

"This removed what was potentially the biggest impediment to the
case moving forward," said Brewer. "We're now looking forward to
phase two, which is when the case will be submitted on summary
judgement in two weeks."

 "This is what they call a three-judge court
case," he explained. "It's federal, but it's a very unusual
procedure. There are only a few instances where it's permitted by
federal law, this being the primary one: pertaining to census and
apportionment. The case is filed like any other case in federal
court, then it is referred by the chief judge of the circuit."

 In this case, that's the Fifth Circuit in
New Orleans, headed by Judge Carol King.

 Said Brewer, "The way it works is that when
a motion of temporary restraining order is filed, which we did on
March 23, the single judge that gets the initial assignment of
the case can hear it. That's really about the only thing the
judge can hear and rule upon. Then the three-judge court is
convened and the case is submitted on trial -- and here it's for
a summary judgment because there's no dispute of the facts.

 "Both sides have the right of appeal,"
Brewer continued, "and we're assuming they (the Census Bureau)
will appeal it. And if we lose -- we'll appeal it. Either way,
it's on its way to the Supreme Court."

 Brewer is handling the case pro bono -- that
is, without charge, but and for the public good.

 "One of the things I stressed to the judge,"
said Brewer, [is that] neither the plaintiffs nor I want to
interrupt the census. To the contrary. I want to ensure its
constit

[CTRL] The War NATO Wanted

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Mother Jones

  The War NATO Wanted
BY DIANA JOHNSTONE

Paris

To justify their assault on Serbia, the United States
and its obedient NATO
allies claimed they had no choice. As the official
story goes, Slobodan
Milosevic (suddenly the reincarnation of Hitler who
has the power to make
all other citizens of Yugoslavia invisible to the
Clinton administration)
refused to negotiate and rejected the Rambouillet
peace agreement.
Therefore, there was nothing else to do but bomb
Yugoslavia.

This preposterous lie is only one among countless
others. In reality,
Belgrade never refused to negotiate. Rambouillet was
never about
negotiations. It was about presenting the Serbs with
an ultimatum precisely
designed to provide the pretext for NATO bombing.
Rambouillet was a tragic
farce, a low point in the history of diplomacy, in
which the United States
had to coax and cajole a band of well-armed criminals
into signing the
death warrant of their adversary, the legitimate
government of Yugoslavia.

The Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) is scarcely the sort
of outfit one might
expect to see invited to a famous French chateau to
decide on the future of
war and peace in Europe. The connection between KLA
gunmen and the ethnic
Albanians who dominate the heroin traffic through the
Balkans from Turkey
to Switzerland and Germany has been widely reported.
As for ideology,
violent ethnic Albanian irredentism has switched
opportunistically from
fascism during World War II, to "Marxism-Leninism" in
the days of Albanian
dictator Enver Hoxha, to today's enthusiasm for NATO.
The constant factor
is hatred of Serbs in particular and Slavs in general.

The rise of the KLA was a challenge to the leadership
of the ethnic
Albanian nationalists' nonviolent leadership, headed
by Ibrahim Rugova. The
killing of Serbs in Kosovo began in April 1996, thanks
to the arms glut
caused by the total collapse of law and order in
Albania. Not only Yugoslav
police but also ethnic Albanians branded as "traitors"
were targeted. Last
summer, by posing for news photographers with a KLA
officer, Richard
Holbrooke publicly signaled that the United States was
dropping Rugova in
favor of the KLA. The process was completed at
Rambouillet with the Feb. 6
arrival of the official ethnic Albanian delegation of
16 members, five of
them from the KLA. Rugova and the older generation of
leaders were suddenly
shoved onto the sidelines, as an unknown, 29-year-old
KLA chieftain named
Hashim "The Snake" Thaqi was introduced to the world
as the leader of the
delegation.

The KLA's irresistible rise was nurtured notably by
Morton Abramowitz, a
prominent member of the U.S. foreign policy elite.
Abramowitz served as
ambassador to Thailand when the CIA's Bangkok bureau
was perpetrating the
"yellow rain" hoax that accused Vietnamese victims of
U.S. chemical warfare
of using chemical agents in Laos. In 1986, as
assistant secretary of state
in charge of intelligence and research in the Reagan
administration,
Abramowitz and top CIA officials accompanied Sen.
Orrin Hatch to Beijing to
work out a deal with China and Pakistan for providing
Stinger missiles to
Islamic Afghan rebels.

He then passed, quite naturally, to the presidency of
the Carnegie
Endowment for International Peace. Under the Clinton
administration, he has
participated in a blue-ribbon panel on CIA
reform--selected by the Council
on Foreign Relations--which recommended easing
restrictions on covert
actions. More recently, Abramowitz has been a leading
figure in the
high-level International Crisis Group, a leading
designer of policy toward
Kosovo. There, he became an advocate of arming the
KLA. At Rambouillet,
Abramowitz and another U.S. official, Paul Williams,
led a team coaching
the KLA delegation.

Even so, at Rambouillet, 'The Snake" bit the hand that
fed him and refused
to sign the document. To the fury and dismay of
Secretary of State
Madeleine Albright, it was not the Serbs but the
Albanian KLA that balked,
depriving the United States of its pretext to launch a
NATO war against the
Serbs. Rambouillet was adjourned. Former Sen. Bob
Dole, recipient of
generous campaign contributions from the
Albanian-American lobby during his
political career, was dispatched to the Balkans to
urge the Albanians to
sign the treaty--not to make peace, but to "maintain
pressure" on the
Serbs. KLA leaders were bribed with a promise of a
"visit to Washington to
discuss matters of interest," notably the future of
the KLA--veiled
language meaning that the United States would not
insist on disarming the
KLA, but would find some formula for transforming what
U.S. envoy Robert
Gelbard had described as a "terrorist" group into
"liberated" Kosovo's
police force.

So it was that the Serbs and the Kosovar Albanians
were summoned back to
Paris to sign, as is, an agreement that in effect
would detach Kosovo from
Serbia and put it under the

[CTRL] WND: E-mail whistle-blower's office was burglarized (fwd)

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From:

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WorldNetDaily
Tuesday, March 28, 2000

E-mail whistle-blower's office was burglarized

7-year White House veteran's website documenting conflicts also
disappeared

by Paul Sperry

WASHINGTON -- Sheryl L. Hall came back to work one Monday in the
fall of 1996 and noticed something wasn't right. Someone had
broken into her locked office over the weekend. A file drawer was
ajar. Files had been rifled. Sensitive papers were missing.

The cleaning crew? Street burglars? Not at this address. Hall
officed in the New Executive Office Building, which is part of
the White House complex.

Security wasn't aware of any pattern of breaches there. Once the
head of all White House computer operations, Hall was the only
one with the key to her office, besides the security crew.

She asked her superiors about it, but they didn't seem concerned.
So she reported the break-in to the Secret Service.

Not long after, someone entered her office again to snoop around
-- this time during the week. Her office was unlocked at the
time.

Hall, a seven-year Clinton White House veteran, last month blew
the whistle on an alleged cover-up involving White House e-mails
sought by Congress, the independent counsel and a government
watchdog group.

WorldNetDaily has also learned that Hall's website was
mysteriously knocked off line last year, just as she was huddling
with Judicial Watch, a public-interest law firm that's suing the
White House over various scandals.

The papers lifted from her office files relate to a computer
project Hall was ordered to work on in 1994. She refused to help
with the project after seeing that it involved keying in personal
data about political donors. Officially named the White House
Office Database, or WHODB, the project was also known among
staffers as "Big Brother."

Hall, a career civil servant, warned the political appointees
building the database that it violated federal laws against using
government resources for fund-raising. For that, she was cut out
of the loop and branded as "disloyal," memos from top Clinton
aides show.

Then she was demoted from her post as chief of the Information
Systems and Technology branch of the Executive Office of the
President.

In 1996, Congress was investigating the database project and had
subpoenaed the White House for relevant documents.

Also, Hall lost her authority over the White House computer
system just before a supposed technical "glitch" stopped
computers from archiving incoming e-mail to senior White House
aides in the fall of 1996. The problem, which has denied
investigators subpoenaed e-mail, lasted until late 1998.

"They were trying to move her out of the way," a Hall confidant
said of the demotion. "It was intimidation."

When Hall told her supervisors of the office break-in, they
brushed it aside, the source says, suggesting to her that someone
might have gone in her office to look for "a wipe-off board."

"They didn't seem to mind that her office was broken into," the
source said.

Repeated calls to the White House press office on the matter were
not returned. Hall's supervisor at the time, Charles D. Benjamin,
who has also left the White House, is overseas and could not be
reached for comment.

Asked for a copy of Hall's complaint, a spokesman for the Secret
Service's uniformed division says it will take awhile to search
the unit's "central files," which are not computerized.

In another curious development, Hall's website was taken down
without her consent about a month before she quit her White House
job last year. One day it just disappeared into the ether.

The site, whodb-purge.org, was carried by Erols.com and
registered with Network Solutions. The Erols.com webmaster could
not explain to Hall what happened to it or even date when it went
off the server.

Hall, who was told there was no back-up, decided not to rebuild
the site, which documented her conflicts with Clinton appointees
over the donor database.

Calls to Erols.com's webmaster at the time were not returned.

Hall hasn't had any luck trying to tell her story on the major TV
networks, either.

CNN and ABC News interviewed her about the missing White House
e-mail, only to later kill their stories, as WorldNetDaily first
reported. Correspondent Bob Franken interviewed Hall for CNN.

The news organizations, which later confirmed WND's report,
claimed her story lacked "corroborating evidence."

But in testimony before Congress last week, six computer
contractors -- including the team leader -- all repeated Hall's
charge that they were ordered by the White House to keep quiet
about the missing e-mail.

It's not known if CNN's news division, which is run by President
Clinton's some-time golfing partner Rick Kaplan, or ABC News,
which employs former top Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos, will
now air their interviews with Hall.
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Re: [CTRL] About Wicca

[Robert F. Tatman]

Foxter, the central law of Wicca--the so-called "Wiccan Rede"--is stated in 
a number of ways: "An thou harm none, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of 
the Law;" "As ye give, so shall ye get;" or (my favorite rendering) "What you 
send, returns three times" (sometimes rendered as "The effect of a sending 
returns multiplied to the sender"). There are a lot of "laws" of magic(k), most 
of which boil down to "If it works, it's true." If you're really interested in 
thoughtful neopaganism and Wicca, try these two sites: Http://www.neopagan.net/ (Home Page of Isaac 
Bonewits, Archdruid Emeritus of Ar nDraíocht Fein) and http://www.well.com/user/zthirdrd/WiccanMiscellany.html ("The 
Wiccan and Faerie Grimoire of Francesca de Grandis"). I have found these two 
sites to be the sanest neopagan sites on the Web, free of the usual New Age 
pseudointellectual psychobabble.
 
Bob
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Foxter 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:13 
PM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] About Wicca
  
  Are there other laws 
  pagans live by?  Are they on the net somewhere?
  Thanks.
   
  

[CTRL] SOLAR STORM ALERT: Earthquake and volcanic alerts in Japan

[DIG alfred webre]

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 -Cui Bono?-

One of the known effect of electromagnetic Solar Storms is the triggering of
earth changes, including tectonic shifts and earthquakes.  These earthquake
and volcanic activity alerts in Japan comes in the midst of a Solar Storm
alert.
Alfred Webre, EcoNews Service, Vancouver, BC
=
Fears for Japan as nature issues warnings
AP

28 March 2000

A powerful earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 7.3 struck remote
Japanese islands Tuesday, just hours after the north of Japn was warned about
an impending volcanic eruption.

The quake was centered about 93 miles beneath the seabed in the Pacific Ocean
near the sparsely populated island of Chichijima, the Meteorological Agency
said.

Chichijima is about 589 miles south of Tokyo.

The quake struck at about 8:01 p.m., the agency said.

The region sometimes experiences such powerful quakes, but usually they are
so deep as to not be strongly felt on land.

Shigeji Sugimoto, a local official on Chichijima, said he felt Tuesday's
earthquake but that it wasn't strong enough to have knocked items off
shelves.

There was no fear of tsunami, or seismic waves caused by undersea
disturbances such as volcanic activity or undersea earthquakes, the agency
said.

Japan is one of the world's most earthquake–prone nations as it sits atop
four tectonic plates, slabs of land that move across the earth's surface.

A temblor of magnitude 7 is considered a major earthquake capable of causing
widespread, heavy damage.

Earlier residents in Northern Japan were warned that Mount Usu, a volcano on
Japan's northern Hokkaido island, was danger of erupting following a series
of tremors related to volcanic activity.

The agency issued an emergency volcano warning at 2:50 a.m. after the number
and size of quakes increased around the foot of the 2,416 ft. mountain.

Three towns with a combined population of 51,300 are near the mountain. While
each town is monitoring the volcano and has notified residents of the
possible danger, none has issued orders to evacuate, spokesmen for each said.

"The tremors are occurring more frequently but there's still no indication of
movement in the volcano's magma that would lead to an eruption," said
Katsuhiro Morita, a spokesman for Date city, located about 3.7 miles from the
volcano.

The Meteorological Agency said it recorded as many as 30 quakes in an hour,
the same number normally registered in a month. Some of the quakes were big
enough to be felt by humans.

The mountain, located about 42 miles southwest of Sapporo, last erupted in
1978, killing two and destroying 196 homes, said Takaharu Kiriyama, a
spokesman for the National Land Agency.

The National Land Agency is charged with gathering information and
disseminating it to the appropriate government bureaucracies, Kiriyama said.
Orders to evacuate the towns rests with the respective local governments.

Sapporo is located 518 miles northwest of Tokyo.

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[CTRL] UK: Hillary bounces back in race for New York senate

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Hillary bounces back in race for New York senate

By David Usborne in New York

29 March 2000

The New York City Mayor, Rudolph Giuliani, is watching his lead over Hillary
Rodham Clinton crumble in their US Senate race as he struggles to handle
another police shooting of an unarmed African American – the fourth such
incident in the city in little over a year.

Two weeks after undercover police officers fatally shot Patrick Dorismond,
26, while he attempted to hail a taxi in midtown Manhattan, a new survey by
the leading New York pollsters Zogby International shows Mr Giuliani trailing
the first lady, with 42.3 per cent compared with her 45 per cent. He had
previously enjoyed a lead of seven points.

In a further blow to his standing, Mr Giuliani has this week suffered final
defeat in his dispute with the Brooklyn Museum of Art over its presentation
last year of "Sensation", an exhibition of works by young British artists
from the Saatchi collection, which he considered obscene.

A deal announced on Monday saw both sides agree to drop their legal
challenges. Mr Giuliani had attempted to cut off the museum's public funding
and even evict it from the home it has occupied for a century. Instead, he
has now pledged to give it $5.8m for renovations.

Far more important now, however, is the Dorismond affair, which comes on the
heels of the shooting last year of Amadou Diallo in the Bronx.

Once more, Mayor Giuliani faces widespread criticism for showing almost zero
sympathy for the victim in the shooting and siding with the police.

The ruckus – which deepened when the mayor apparently broke the law by
unsealing Dorismond's juvenile criminal record – handed Mrs Clinton the
opportunity to exploit what may be Mr Giuliani's most glaring weakness: his
perceived inability to show compassion, especially towards minorities. He has
defended his actions, insisting that the criminal record helped to show that
Dorismond was not a perfect citizen. Scuffles with police at Dorismond's
funeral at the weekend left 17 people hurt.

Just days ago, supporters of Mrs Clinton feared she might never close the gap
with the mayor. Now all is changed. "He's handing her the race," John Zogby,
head of the polling group, commented. "It's not that she's doing better, it's
that he's doing worse."

The mayor has seen support in New York City itself plummet to 28 per cent
from 44 per cent just three weeks ago. "That's pretty pathetic," Mr Zogby
said, adding that the mayor need capture only about one-third of the vote in
the city to win the race statewide in November. "This is Rudy's race to lose.
And the voters want to see a much more sensitive side to him."

In a high-profile defection, the Rev Michael Faulkner, a black Manhattan
church leader, who has been a long-time supporter of the mayor, is now
demanding that he resign from City Hall. This week he started a fast to
underscore his fury. "I'm asking God either to change his heart or remove
him," Rev Faulkner declared. "The city is being torn apart by anger, distrust
and bitterness."

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[CTRL] Russian Draft Resister Threatened with Psychiatric "Treatment"

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From: misha pevzner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

UCSJ Action Alert!

JEWISH PRISONER OF CONSCIENCE SENT BACK TO JAIL

Judge Orders Psychiatric Examination
(March 6, 2000)

On Friday March 3rd, the Obninsk City Court in the Kaluga region sent
the case of Dmitry Neverovsky back to prosecutors "for further
investigation" and refused to let him out of prison pending a
possible re-trial. To make matters worse, the judge ordered that
Neverovsky be forced to undergo a psychiatric examination.  In the
Soviet period, psychiatrists frequently tortured dissidents using
pain inducing and mind altering drugs and routinely made politically
motivated diagnoses. The head of the Kaluga Psychiatric Hospital, who
remains at his post today, was responsible for the psychiatric
detention of several Soviet dissidents. Over the past year in Russia,
a well known journalist and some religious minorities have been
threatened with or placed in psychiatric detention. Neverovsky may
become the latest victim of this gruesome Soviet practice, which
seems to be making a come back. It appears that rather than bring his
case back for another trial, the Obninsk authorities are leaning
towards declaring Neverovsky insane and throwing away the key.

Background Information

Dmitry Neverovsky is a young (26) Jewish man from the Russian city of
Obninsk in the Kaluga region. He is a member of the Antimilitary
Radical Association, a local advocacy organization. He has
consistently stated his refusal to serve in the Russian military's
brutal war in Chechnya. His mother, Tatyana Kotlyar, is a deputy of
the Obninsk City Council and the head of the Obninsk Regional Group
for the Defense of Rights, a participating member in the joint Moscow
Helsinki Group/UCSJ regional human rights monitoring project.

On November 25, 1999 Neverovsky was convicted of refusing military
service (Article 328, part 1 of the Criminal Code) and sentenced to
two years in prison by the Obninsk City Court. He has been
incarcerated ever since. According to the U.S. State Department,
conditions in Russian detention centers and prisons are so harsh that
between 10-20,000 prisoners died last year, mostly from poor health
caused by overcrowding and disease. Neverovsky has been placed in a
freezing punishment cell twice and on one occasion beaten by a guard.
Although antisemitism has not been proven as a motive for
prosecution, the fact that in December 1998 the Russian government
classified Kaluga as a region with particularly high levels of
extremist antisemitic activity means that antisemitic motives in this
case cannot be ruled out.

Legal Issues

The Russian Constitution (Article 59, Part 3) guarantees the right to
alternative service, but no federal law regulating alternative
service has ever been passed. However, the Constitutional Court ruled
on May 22, 1996 that a person requesting alternative service cannot
be prosecuted for evading military service.

Immediate Action Requested

Please write to Acting President Vladimir Putin asking that charges
against Neverovsky be immediately dropped in accordance with the
Russian Constitution's guarantee of alternative civilian service.

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The Honorable Vladimir V. Putin
Acting President of the Russian Federation
The Kremlin
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Dear Mr. Putin:

I am writing on behalf of Dmitry Neverovsky, a young man from
Obninsk, Kaluga Oblast who on November 25, 1999 was sentenced to two
years in prison by the Obninsk City Court for refusing military
service (Article 328, Part 1 of the Criminal Code). He remains in
custody today in the Kaluga Oblast Prison. On March 3, 2000, the
Obninsk City Court sent Neverovsky's case back to prosecutors for
further investigation and ordered that he undergo a psychiatric
examination.

The decision of the Obninsk City Court was a clear violation of Mr.
Neverovsky's constitutional right to alternative civilian service. At
his first trial, Mr. Neverovsky stated that because of his
convictions, he could not serve in the military and insisted that he
be allowed to serve alternative civilian service in line with his
constitutionally guaranteed rights. Article 59, Part 3 of the Russian
Constitution states that, "A citizen of the Russian Federation whose
convictions and faith are at odds with military service, and also in
other cases stipulated by the federal law shall have the right to the
substitution of alternative civil service for military service." In
addition, the Constitutional Court ruled on May 22, 1996 that the
co

[CTRL] Europe's Dirty Secret

[Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General]

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Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU


www.tenc.net [emperors-clothes]

Europe's Dirty Secret

by Rick Rozoff (3-27-00)

[Note - the following is excerpted from a most thought-provoking email
note that Mr. Rozoff sent to friends on the Internet. ]

I've hesitated to weigh in on this issue for fear that my ethnic
background might leave me open to the suspicion of "special pleading."
But this issue has to be met head on.

To someone outside of Europe or not of European ancestry, all Europeans
must appear homogeneous. Similarly, Europeans and North Americans are
often shocked when they learn of the extensive ethnic and cultural
diversity that obtains in Asia, Africa and the Middle East, as those
areas are presented in the West as stereotyped and monolithic. In fact
Europe is and has always been divided in a number of ways: Language
groups, different branches of Christianity, social class, ethnic
pluralism within nations, with certain groups historically disadvantaged
(Celts, Basques, Romany, etc.), and - perhaps most demonstrably - by
geographic divide. North vs. South and West vs. East are the major
cleavages.

Anti-Slavic prejudice - more properly, racism - is a dirty secret in
European history.

It reached its most monstrous level of refinement with Hitler, who both
'scientifically' codified and savagely implemented this prevailing view
of Slavs as Untermenschen - subhumans. Fifty million human beings lost
their lives in World War Two, the majority of them Slavs. Estimates of
Soviet dead, which include Jews, Roma and other non-Slav minorities, but
which were overwhelmingly Slavic, range as high as thirty million.
Additionally, millions of Serbs, Poles and other Slavs were killed in
battle or along with Jews and others in death camps.

Every action has its rationale and every policy its doctrine. Had
anti-Slavic (and related anti-Eastern - that is, anti-Romanian, Greek,
etc.) bigotry not been allowed to simmer in Europe for centuries, it
wouldn't have been as easy to exterminate tens of millions of Eastern
Europeans as it was for the Third Reich.

A resumption, an hysterical revival, of this racism has been dredged up
since the beginning of the break up of Yugoslavia in 1991. Often the
pronouncements of Western government and media spokespeople are a barely
disguised recycling of Nazi race propaganda from the 1930s and 40s. As
one British journalist put it a few months ago, this campaign of
collective dehumanization (another trick infamously practiced by Hitler,
Rosenberg, Goebbels and company) has led to the word Slav being
synonymous with criminal. Or subhuman. Or inherently (read: racially)
inferior, lazy, dishonest, violent people who deserve all the misery,
disease, bombing and eventual physical elimination NATO and IMF/World
Bank policies have brought on them.

When the life expectancy of a Russian male (one current estimate is 56
years) is lower than that in most 'official' Third World countries; when
Romanians, Bulgarians and others are eating out of garbage cans and
sleeping in sewers; when 1.2 million ethnic Serbs are driven out of
their homes and living destitute in Serbia proper, consituting the
largest mass scale refugee crisis in Europe since World War II and its
aftermath; when all this is occurring and nobody in the West says
ANYTHING about it, except to callously and contemptuously blame the
victims - it's time for all people of good will to oppose the
ethnopsychological (that is, racist) and other propaganda devices use to
perpetrate and excuse this travesty.

T.V. and Alida Weber and 'Stormie' Leporte (who by the way runs a superb
Web site: http://www.abolishnato.com ) have performed an indispensible
service by analyzing and exposing this campaign of racial dehumanization
and persecution.

Lastly, it's not a matter of contrasting one group's tragedy with
another's, but of learning from many experiences to recognize a current
catastrophe. The Roman poet Virgil has a line that says, "Taught by
misfortune, I pity the suffering." United by our horror at past acts of
racial stereotypng and persecution, we can condemn it whenever it
occurs.

One point of information. The D-Day invasion didn't occur until Spring
of 1944. By that time the Soviet Union and numerous Eastern European
partisan groups (Serbian, Greek and others) had been holding off and
driving out the overwhelming bulk of Axis troops for over two and a half
years. They, more than anyone else, saved the world from fascism. They
deserve far more consideration and gratitude than they've ever received
from the Western nations who, with the exception of Britain in Europe,
didn't even put up a decent fight against Hitler.

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3.28.00
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* The Boulder Properties Scam
* The Bill and Hillary Story
* Wholesale US Government Corruption
* Anatomy of the Bush Crime Family Empire
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[CTRL] Secret Operations by the CIA DEA and Covert Age "

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from:
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Click Here: http://www.steamshovelpress.com/defraudingamerica.html">S
ecret Operations by the CIA DEA and Covert Age…
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  STEAMSHOVEL BESTSELLERS

Inside Secrets of Gov't Covert Ops
by Uri Dowbenko


Book Review:
Defrauding America: Encyclopedia of Secret Operations by the CIA, DEA and
Other Covert Agencies
by Rodney Stich

  Former government investigator Rodney Stich is one of the unsung heroes
of America. His singleminded dedication in exposing government crimes and
coverups has resulted in his own harassment, imprisonment and bankruptcy.
Hounded and nearly destroyed by government agents, his story will remind you
of the persecution of dissidents in the former Soviet Union. In today's
National Security State of America, he has however persevered.

  His monumental 753-page book, Defrauding America, in its third expanded
and revised edition is clearly a labor of love. It also happens to be the
definitive history of crime, corruption and coverups by the U.S. Federal
Government in the twentieth century.

  This book is not merely important. It is indispensable. Future
generations will regard this book as an historical milestone like Gibbons's
Decline of the Roman Empire. Why? Because Defrauding America contains prima
facie evidence of nationwide legal and judicial corruption, so horrendous and
so monstrous as to defy imagination.

  And how did it happen? Rodney Stich used to be an FAA investigator.
After many years and continuous reports of airline maintenance abuse and
negligence, Rodney Stich became a whistleblower. Because of the powerful
forces he had challenged, he was set up, falsely charged and imprisoned.
During his "diesel therapy" (being constantly moved from one federal prison
to another so there would be no time for him to file court appeals), he met
and interviewed other whistleblowers from other agencies. Rather quickly he
accumulated enough information to write Defrauding America.

  "This book reveals criminal and subversive activities implicating high
level personnel in the three branches of the federal government. It reveals
why most of the public is dangerously uninformed about the criminal acts
perpetrated against the United States and its people by the very people
entrusted to prevent such happenings," writes Stich.

  "Many criminal activities such as CIA drugging of America will be
difficult to believe by most Americans who have been shielded from the truth
by a duplicitous Congress and much of the media," he continues. "For those of
us who have seen these events as insiders, including those who actually
participated in them, questioning whether the CIA would engage in drug
trafficking is like asking pilots, 'Will planes really fly?' Yes, planes
actually fly, and yes, the CIA has been smuggling drugs into the United
States for the past 50 years."

  One of the most explosive chapters in the book is in fact titled, "CIA
and DEA Drug Trafficking." This includes first-hand accounts of CIA and DEA
agents who were part of these operations. Stich writes, "My phone was used
for hundreds of hours of three-way conference calls between CIA and DEA
personnel, their wives, a Mossad agent and even Ross Perot. Often the
conversations were of the nature of one pilot describing to another events
that they experienced each one knowing that any fabrication would be
recognized by the other. My position was like a secret mole inside covert CIA
activities, adding to the discoveries I made while a federal investigator and
while being victimized in one of the many criminal enterprises."

  Cross corroboration between testimony by CIA operatives Gunther
Russbacher and Trenton Parker, for instance, indicates that the Colombia drug
cartels were actually organized by the CIA.

  "Parker told how the CIA set up the meetings in which various Colombian
drug dealers organized into a drug trafficking cartel," writes Stich. "... He
stated that the first meeting occurred with twenty of the biggest cocaine
dealers in Colombia present, that the second and final meeting was held at
the Hotel International in Medellin attended by about two hundred drug
dealers. The Medellin Cartel was established in December 1981, and each of
their members paid an initial $35,000 fee to fund a security force for the
cartel members to protect their drug operations."

  In another part of the book, Stich writes that "CIA operative Gunther
Russbacher, confirmed the meetings that Parker mentioned and that there had
been a preliminary meeting in September 1981 in Buenaventura, Colombia which
established the format for subsequent meetings. Russbacher attended the
September 1981 meeting which was initiated by the CIA to facilitate drug
trafficking into the United States, permitting the CIA to deal with a group
rather than many independent drug dealers."

  What does that mean

[CTRL] The Spectre of Jim Keith by Kenn Thomas

[Kris Millegan]

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Click Here: http://www.steamshovelpress.com/fromeditor.html">The
Spectre of Jim Keith by Kenn Thomas
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The Spectre of Jim Keith
by Kenn Thomas

  Jim Keith's spectre haunts the recent Steamshovel web work. This new
site developed shortly after I took over Jim's column at Nitro News when he
died of a mysterious blood clot last September. Nitro News has since deep
sixed, but my responsibilities as a columnist have shifted to this page.
Recently, Jim's lingering presence led correspondent Geoff Steuart
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to suggest that "At the end of the day, the only
reason to believe [Jim Keith's article on Princess Diana] came from the pen
of Jim Keith is the word of Kenn Thomas and Nitro News and Nitro News has
been decidedly silent over the last few weeks... all the circumstantial
evidence indicates that Jim Keith didn't write the article and Kenn Thomas
did."

  The resulting exchange became quite funny and is reproduced below. It
reminded me of how little has been accomplished in investigating Jim's death.
Ideas I had to go to Reno to look for myself collapsed from lack of funding,
although I was able to mention it on two national television programs. One
show, the infotainment program Extra, even had footage of Keith--virtually
twice as much as I have ever seen of Jim on the tube. The producer of that
program says that the footage came from Jerry Smith, author of HAARP: The
Ultimate Weapon of the Conspiracy (a weapon, btw, that may have played a role
in this recent Alaska Airlines crash outside of LA, near Point Mugu, where
Brice Taylor says she and her children were brainwashed and molested.) Jerry,
if you're out there, how about sending a dub of that entire Keith lecture?
Heretofore, it's a problem trying just to get still photos of Jim.

  It also reminded me of some of the difference Jim and I had, since Mr.
Steuart seemed to think that we shared all research and information and
continually wrote things together. Jim and I were close, but not that close.
In fact, I'm a little steamed that his new book, ($16.95 from IllumiNet
Press, POB 2808, Lilburn, GA 30048) shovels an old story about Timothy Leary
previously circulated by Walter Bowart, author of Operation Mind Control.
Leary was kind to Bowart once and gave him some lurid details and tall tales
about his connections to the intelligence world. Bowart rewarded that
kindness with a trash obituary after Leary died and the false claim that
Leary had been lobotomized in prison and thereafter became a tool of the
spooks. I have written about this and condemned it many times; I have
struggled with the FBI in a FOIA search to get the full picture of Leary's
life in prison; and most importantly, I told Jim it was lie and asked him not
to repeat it.

  So Jim Keith and I did not see eye to eye on everything. The Leary
stuff in Mass Control calls into question the quality of the other
information as well, of course. But the book calls into question a lot of
what many people take for granted about mass psychology mind control and I
think it is a very important book for that reason. I hope readers take
another look at Uri Dowbenko's review of it at the Steamshovel site and
seriously consider buying it. It serves a function that Arthur Koestler's
books did in the 1950s by drawing attention to the subtle and not-so-subtle
ways of brainwashing that occur daily in our world.

Kenn Thomas
Steamshovel Press


  Haha, Geoff! You caught me! I wrote the damn thing to set up Keith for
a hit for the sake of publicity.


> I have e-mailed Nitro News three times, without reply.


  Nitro News doesn't respond to anyone anymore. It's apparently out of
the business.


> What I can't understand, in your e-mail to Conspiracy Journal, you describe
> yourself as 'a good friend' and we already know you were both literary
> collaborators yet, Jim did not seek your advice or discuss the issue with
> you. Your comments on his article had to be based on 'rumor'. What is
> even more staggering, is that having heard the 'rumor', you don't seem to
> have attempted to read a copy of the article before you commented on it.


  Huh? I read the article, when it appeared on Nitro.


> When Nitro News overcame it's technical problems, you wrote a column COME
> AND GET ME, OCTOPUS! KEITH CO-AUTHOR RESUMES COLUMN in which you corrected
> your previous error. The name of the Sufi doctor was NOT contained in the
> article. Yet only 6 days later aprox, Anjeanette Damon writing in the
>RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL , published your erroneous remarks. Did you make any
>effort to correct this story?



  Didn't know about this. I do remember responding to the Reno coroner's
comments in the Gazette-Journal that this happens all of the time at Washoe
Medical.


> That's what 'dear friends' do too each other is it?


  You obviously have little familiarity with Keith, me or the conspiracy
"underground". Jim used

[CTRL] THE ARCH CONSPIRATOR by Len Bracken

[Kris Millegan]

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 -Cui Bono?-

from:
http://www.steamshovelpress.com/archconspirator.html
Click Here: http://www.steamshovelpress.com/archconspirator.html">THE
 ARCH CONSPIRATOR by Len Bracken
-


THE ARCH CONSPIRATOR
by Len Bracken




  Len Bracken's new book, The Arch Conspirator, takes a deeper look at
conspiracy in history than most other books ever have.

  The book presents essays and commentaries that provide new insights
into the conspiratorial underpinnings of global politics. Bracken follows a
maze through many widely dispersed, yet interwoven, tales: the Russian
Conspiracy; A False Report Exposing the Dirty Truth About South African
Intelligence Services; the Neo-Catiline Conspiracy for the Cancellation of
Debt; Anti-Labor Day, 1997, with Selected Aphorisms Against Work; Solar
Economics; and much more. The Arch Conspirator also contains Bracken's
General Theory of Civil War, and his iinterview with Costa Rican novelist
Joaquin Gutierrez, and follows his Psychogeographic Map into the Third
Millenium. It makes a remarkable addition to the library of the thinking
conspiracy theorist.

  Bracken authored Guy DeBord-Revolutionary, documenting the life of the
great Situationist thinker DeBord, who helped expose the conspiracy culture
as the society of the spectacle. Bracken also served as the translator of the
Italian Situationist, Gianfranco Sanquinettti, with the first English
translation of the classic fake document, The Real Report on the Last Chance
to Save Capitalism in Italy. Bracken is known to some as the editor of
Extraphile, the underground newsletter of the Extranational movement,
described by the New Yorker magazine as "fusion conspiracy theory." Bracken
has contributed to Anarchy, Steamshovel Press and many other alternative perio
dicals.

  Demonstrating that he is as prolific as he is profound, Bracken also
recently translated The Right To Be Lazy (1880) by French revolutionary social
ist Paul Lafargue, for Fifth Season Press. The book is "at once funny and
serious...a logical expansion of The Right to the Pursuit of Happiness
announced by Thomas Jefferson." Don't belive it? Check out the quote from
Rothschild: "They call me the King of the Jews. I am only the Jew of the
Kings." Or Lafargue's point that "The bearded stern Jehovah gave his follwers
the supreme example of ideal laziness--after six days' work, he rested for
eternity."
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Re: [CTRL] [ncndiscuss] FW: Patriot Action Television Network

[Dave]

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 -Cui Bono?-

One viewpoint.
No doubt perfectly valid, and at any rate - uniquely yours.
However, it serves little purpose, imho, to commandeer "higher ground" and
hand judgement down from above upon persons who may well (unbeknownst to
you?) be intensely taken with compassion and perhaps therefore: a desire to
expose their vision of truth to an audience which is the COMPLETE CAPTIVE of
the corporate monopoly owned mass media - wherein "honest journalism" is not
only oxymoron but anathema.

Many of us are interested in exposing some of the filth in government to the
cleansing light of day, and disturbing the status quo: secrecy, corruption;
figurative & literal sacrifice of human life in the worship of Mammon.

Some of those of us who are to some extent "activists" may also be on our
own path of spiritual growth, and may not be in particular need of being
told "look within, Grasshopper."

Contrary to populist & simplistic "spiritual" belief - all perceived "wrong"
is *NOT* necessarily in the eye/mind of the beholder. Consensual reality is
a meeting ground. Independent of my or your existence - relative good and
evil exist in this world. If your path is one of isolated
self-contemplation, who am I to deny that?

By the same token, I strongly support those with the courage of their
convictions; the awareness that there is a need for aggressive truth-seeking
in the halls of temporal power, and the will to (in their perhaps infinite
compassion ;) "fight" for my "right" to honesty in government.



Dave Hartley
http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Wees
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 7:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ncndiscuss] FW: Patriot Action Television Network


Sorry .. but this is wrong wrong wrong. The purpose of a journalist is to
reveal the truth NOT to damage anyone. The truth will set us free, but if
the truth is organised to be hurtful, it is no longer the truth, it's just a
different slant on the same bs that we have been peddled now for centuries.
The greatest enemy we have is the one who lies within, and if you look
within .. or without .. then the truth IS being called for .. but so is
something called compassion. You know that word anyone? Our world is crying
out for it.

Please do not subvert the cause of honest journalism by turning it into yet
another weapon.

  Tym

- Original Message -
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:01 PM
Subject: [ncndiscuss] FW: Patriot Action Television Network


> hmm... Press Pass anyone ?
>
>
> Dave Hartley
> http://www.asheville-computer.com/dave
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: spiker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:23 PM
> To: Recipient list suppressed
> Subject: Patriot Action Television Network
>
>
> Patriot Action Television Network
> http://sites.netscape.net/inyourfacetv/patv
>
> If you are willing to carry a rifle for freedom...You should also be
> willing to carry a camcorder for freedom.
>
> WE DARE YOU TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP, TRUTH IS A VIRUS!
>
> You can help us dominate the airwaves by calling your local cable company
> and asking to be placed on the local public access channel.
>
> 1.Fill out the forms.
> 2.Request a prime time slot.
> 3.Send us your time and channel and whether or not you wish to be an
> affiliate Camcorder Commando or anchor.
>
> Finally there are enough informed Americans to conduct a full frontal
media
> charge!
>
> A squad of Camcorder Commandos with fixed microphones will do more damage
> to the enemy than a million bullets.
>
> THE EMPIRE IS ON THE RUN!  WE ARE ON THE MARCH!
>
> Any General knows if the enemy is retreating...You don't let them regroup.
>
> P.A.T.V.  will operate like an army in the field with Battalion
Commanders,
> Platoons, Scouts, and Spies.
>
> Militia units should be used to this concept.  All others will be trained
> in cable boot camp.
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE!!!
>
> Your local T.V.  News channel has NO claim on what is or isn't news.  If
> you have access to the cable system, simply declare yourself a news crew
> and you are "one".
> No special news license exists!
>
> P.A.T.V.  will back you up on whatever kind of press credentials you care
> to use.  Create a press pass for yourself on a desktop publisher, (or have
> your friends do it).  Include the words P.A.T.V.  CABLE NEWS OFFICIAL
> BUSINESS---(Email us so we know.)
>
> Here is your assignment...
>
> Walk into your local city hall with cameraman press pass, etc
>
> And start asking hard core questions.
>
> (If you've been involved in the patriot fight for any length at all...You
> will know what to say.)
>
> Send us the tape.  We will edit all tapes from ALL over the country into
> one powerful documentary and send it back to you, plus put it on the
> Internet!
>
> Who you gonna shoot?
>
> (with a 

[CTRL] A MUST READ! [Fwd: [apfn] Fw: Judge puts brakes on Census Bureau] A MUST READ!

[Bard]

... far and wide!

Bard

"None are more hopelessly enslaved
than those who falsely believe the are free."
-- Goethe



From: 
"MCAC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:05 AM
Subject: Judge puts brakes on Census Bureau 



  Judge puts brakes
  on Census Bureau
  Government
  NewsSource: WorldNetDailyPublished:
  28 March 2000 Author: Sarah FosterPosted on 03/28/2000
  01:32:51 PST by matrix 



  
  


  
  
  
  THE POWER TO DESTROY Judge puts
  brakes on Census Bureau Attorney:
  'Huge victory for the Constitution and for privacy-loving
  Americans' 
  
  By Sarah
  Foster© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Americans
  who refuse to answer questions they consider invasive on their Census
  questionnaires will be able to sleep a little easier -- at least for now.
  A federal judge ruled yesterday that the Census Bureau has no automatic right to
  ask questions felt to be personal or intrusive and that it cannot threaten
  or prosecute citizens who refuse to answer such questions.
  U.S. District Judge Melinda Harmon granted attorney Mark Brewer, of the
  Houston-based firm of Brewer and
  Pritchard, a temporary restraining order in a Census suit filed by
  five Houston, Texas, residents. Attorneys for the government conceded that
  none of the five plaintiffs will be subject to actual or threatened
  prosecution during this litigation which is expected to go to the U.S.
  Supreme Court.
  The ruling is especially far-reaching.
  "For the moment, this will prevent prosecution against any American who
  chooses not to answer questions other than the number of people living at
  their address -- that's all that's required by the Constitution," Brewer
  told WorldNetDaily. "It's a huge victory for the Constitution and for
  privacy-loving Americans, because we now have a ruling in a federal court
  case.
  "The Census Bureau cannot extract this information under threat of
  criminal prosecution -- that was the issue I presented to the court," he
  said.
  The penalty for not answering each question asked on the forms is $100.
  False answers can cost up to $500 in fines.
  The five -- Edgar Morales, Laique Rehman, Nouhad Bassila, George
  Breckenridge and William Jeffrey Van Fleet -- are American citizens.
  Brewer said his clients are not part of any organized group, "though
  that is what people have assumed. They are just ordinary people who want
  to be counted, but who do not want to give up their privacy to do so.
  That's the bottom line."
  "What the court did today," Brewer explained, "was to order that the
  Bureau could neither threaten nor actually prosecute these people for not
  answering any question other than how many folks live at that address.
  It's the first time to my knowledge that this has happened in the 213
  years since we've had a Constitution."
  As he put it, "We hit a home run."
  Recalling his day in court, Brewer said he told the judge she was "the
  only barrier standing between government on the one hand and these five --
  I think very brave -- people and the American people generally on the
  other. I pointed out that the government lawyer had just told her that he
  can ask anything he darn near pleases -- where does it stop?"
  Almost as important as the ruling itself is that the government
  conceded that the plaintiffs have "standing," meaning they had a right to
  bring an action against the Census Bureau in the first place.
  "This removed what was potentially the biggest impediment to the case
  moving forward," said Brewer. "We're now looking forward to phase two,
  which is when the case will be submitted on summary judgement in two
  weeks."
  "This is what they call a three-judge court case," he explained. "It's
  federal, but it's a very unusual procedure. There are only a few instances
  where it's permitted by federal law, this being the primary one:
  pertaining to census and apportionment. The case is filed like any other
  case in federal court, then it is referred by the chief judge of the
  circuit."
  In this case, that's the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans, headed by Judge
  Carol King.
  Said Brewer, "The way it works is that when a motion of temporary
  restraining order is filed, which we did on March 23, the single judge
  that gets the initial assignment of the case can hear it. That's really
  about the only thing the judge can hear and rule upon. Then the
  three-judge court is convened and the case is submitted on trial -- and
  here it's for a summary judgment because there's no dispute of the facts.
  "Both sides have the right of appeal," Brewer continued, "and we're
  assuming they (the Census Bureau) will ap

Re: [CTRL] FOXTER...do something about this prosyletizing?

[nessie]

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 -Cui Bono?-

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>

>
>

>
>

>
>


>I



This is a bald faced lie. Capitalizing it don't make it true. I know. I
was there. So was every major paper in the country. Go to the library and
read the microfilm. Don't listen to this fool. Find out for yourself which
of us is telling the truth.

The New Haven Panthers were charged with a murder that it later turned out
had been committed by an undercover agent assisted by a paid informer.
Panther founder Bobby Seale was charged with conspiracy and dragged from
Oakland CA to New Haven to stand trial. It was an obvious attempted
lynching. I helped organize the demo against it. 350,000 people showed up
on the New Haven Green, across the street from the court house. The pigs
took the hint and backed down.

Read up. Then talk. That way you don't look like a fool.

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1 - he's ba-a-a-ck...

[Ric Carter]

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 -Cui Bono?-

SkeptiNews 000328a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterweek's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/17_03_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Entry to notices, excuses, sightings, stuff: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No Reptilioid skateboarders were sexually used to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Hell 4 Skateboarders: http://www.sonic.net/~ric/adventure/mar2k/M2K32.JPG
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# My Sasquatch/UFO Hunt: HOT EMF BEAMED INTO OUR HEADS! CRASHED UFO! COYOTE
  CORPSES! YOLLA BOLLY YETI! NO UFOs! NARROW ESCAPES! TROUBLE! UFO! BIGFOOT!
  ET TRACKS! HYDROIDS! CHEMTRAILS! WITCH! PETROGLYPHS! ALIEN FACE! FEY MINE!
  GUNNERS! SASQUATCH! BIRDS ATTACK! ALIENS ABDUCT! And I got most of it on
  videotape! Proof: http://web.pitas.com/skepticon/27_03_2000.html#000327a

# Hovering Triangle Outside Las Vegas, NV: http://caus.org/ft032800.htm
# Small Delta-Shaped UFO in Rochester, NY: http://caus.org/mu032700.htm
# Spherical Orange UFOs in Australia:: http://www.caus.org/mu032300.htm

: How many sightings/encounters/intrusions can you pack into a few days? How
many are enough? D'ya prefer paranormal experiences in retail/wholesale/vast
quantities? Is quantity more vital than quality? What's y'r best abduction??

# New Roswell Eyewitness To Crash Scene And ET Ship Comes Forward!
  Testifying before death: http://www.sightings.com/general/rewros.htm
# New Mexico - The UFO State: http://www.sightings.com/general/newmex.htm
@ Roswell Wallpaper: http://wallpaper.worldprints.com/startpage?sid=5009
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ We've all seen born-agains of the overboard variety who display extreme
  obsession with demons... but  this guy is a
  shade beyond the garden-variety hellfire-and-brimstone wacko. Warning the
  flock to not celebrate  Halloween
  is commonplace... but  Easter is
  evil, too? This guy sees his demons everywhere... in paisley print fabric,
   in 
  "extreme" sports, and in  Lucky
  Charms marshmallow cereal, among a great many other things. There seems to
  be nothing that he doesn't consider demonic...even Christmas is supposed
  to be  evil (can't argue with
  that one.) And of course the 
  anti-perspirant demon. Get demonic at: http://memepool.com/Subject/Wackos/

: What's your favorite obsession? Are you possessed by demons? D'ya possess
demons, humans, aliens, robots, me? What's the difference between possession
& inspiration & channeling? Is born-again-ism a form of demonic possession??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Gravity research gets off the ground. (BBC) A leading UK firm is challen-
  ging what we thought were fundamental laws of physics. The military wing
  of the hi-tech group BAe Systems, formerly British Aerospace, confirms it
  has launched an anti-gravity research programme. Production of Cavorite
  soon? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_692000/692968.stm

@ links: Electrogravity: http://www.electrogravity.com/
@ Breakthrough Propulsion: http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/
@ Project Greenglow: http://www.greenglow.co.uk/

: What's your favorite antigravity device/process/meditation? Have you levi-
tated lately? Were fighters scrambled to intercept you? Did you evade them?

@ Gravity: http://etronica.com/xweb.exe/etronica/search.html?query=Gravity
# Serious Progress Hinted In Secret British Anti-Gravity Projects:
  http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,151331,00.html
# Britain's 1950's 'Flying Saucer' Stealth Craft Revealed - RAF's UFO:
 http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/03/26/stinwenws02024.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Secrets Of The Giza Plateau Revealed. Canadian and Swansea (Wales UK)
  researchers affiliated to the Ambilac Corporation (To Search for the
  truth) have combined resources to analyse and interpret the ultimate
  meaning of the Giza Plateau Pyramid complex Near Cairo Egypt. Using data
  from Genesis and Exodus, combined with archaeoastronomical data, crucial
  evidence has been discovered as to the true purpose and meaning of the
  complete physical layout of the Pyramid Complex on the Giza Plateau Egypt.
  The findings offer an incredible and profound re-interpretation as to our
  very origins both on and off this planet earth, findings that not only
  show our true heritage as homo sapiens, but to the very make up of our
  solar system and beyond. http://www.sightings.com/general/secretsg.htm

: Have you decoded any ancient secrets/puzzles/paradoxi lately? Have your
evidence/analysis been verified by independent researchers? Are'ya inspired?
_

[CTRL] OEN 3/28/00

[Kris Millegan]

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 -Cui Bono?-

from:
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Click Here: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe
-
Physics Experiments


The End of the World May Arrive on Long Island


The New York senate race may be less important than commonly believed.

When the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider begins operating in May, it will
recreate conditions that have not existed since the dawn of the universe.

Could that mean the end of the world?

Last year a British newspaper charged that the new physics experiment on Long
Island might somehow generate a black hole that would swallow the planet, or
perhaps turn all of creation into some kind of deadly "strange matter."

Given that the collider will hurl particles into one another almost at the
speed of light, generating temperatures of a trillion degrees and creating a
substance that has not existed for 13 billion years, it is easy to imagine
that it might cause some kind of catastrophe.

But a panel of physicists commissioned by the Brookhaven National Laboratory
after the article came out in The Sunday Times of London has determined that
every imaginable disaster scenario would be impossible — or at least
extremely unlikely.

"Our conclusion is that the candidate mechanisms for catastrophe scenarios at
RHIC are firmly excluded by existing empirical evidence, compelling
theoretical arguments, or both," the panel wrote in their report to
Brookhaven director John Marburger.

The black hole idea was easy to dismiss. Although the RHIC collisions will
pack an awful lot of energy into a very small space, their total impact is
roughly equivalent to a mosquito hitting a screen door. Hardly enough to make
a black hole.

Another scenario was at least theoretically possible. Maybe a collision could
create strangelets, a new form of matter that would also transform everything
in contact with it — at the speed of light.

"This one you can't absolutely say no to," said Brookhaven physicist Tim
Hallman.

But in order for RHIC to create world-destroying strangelets, a whole chain
of things that physicists consider impossible would have to happen.

First, strangelets would have to be produced at an unbelievably low energy
for RHIC to be able to generate them.

Second, they would have to be much more stable than physicists think they are
in order to exist long enough to do any damage.

Third, they would have to be negatively charged — in violation of current
theory. A positively charged strangelet would immediately be isolated from
the rest of the universe by a swarm of negatively charged electrons — and do
no harm to anybody.

There's one more disaster scenario. Somehow the massive energy released at
RHIC could jar the universe into a lower vacuum energy state.

The vacuum state is sort of the energy level of empty space. It is possible,
but unlikely, that the universe is not in the lowest possible vacuum energy
state and that RHIC could jostle it to a less energetic level.

"This would trigger a chain reaction which would literally swallow up the
whole universe at the speed of light," said Brookhaven physicist Tom Ludlam.

But if that were possible at RHIC, it would have happened already somewhere
else. Powerful cosmic rays, generated in deep space by exploding stars and
other extremely violent sources, have been smashing into the moon and other
celestial objects with at least as much energy as the RHIC collisions for
billions of years. So the physics panel concluded that if a resetting of the
universe's energy were possible at RHIC, it would have happened somewhere
else by now.

In the end, that argument really applies to all the potential RHIC disaster
scenarios. Mother Nature has been creating particle collisions more powerful
than RHIC's for eons. It's just that until very recently, compared to the age
of the universe, people haven't been around to worry about them.

Physicists say the collider will begin operating some time in May, depending
on how long it takes to power up the superconducting magnets and fill the
machine with gold nuclei. It typically takes months to get a high-energy
particle collider operating.
Fox News, March 27, 2000

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Re: [CTRL] IM: Klayman: Criminals in the White House? (fwd)

[Jeff Sandlin]

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 -Cui Bono?-

Prudy, exposed to the point it is  ridiculous? Then why aren`t they in
prison yet? Shocking to admit, but I agree with Joshua2.
Have a nice day.

http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture
http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins

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Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Ralph Nader Secrets

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 03/27/2000 11:15:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
 Nader intends to spend the rest of this campaign season lecturing the
 American people about the corrupting evils of money in politics. It will be
 interesting to see whether, at any point, Nader plans to look in the mirror.
>>

Nader does just fine.  I remember when a lot of corporations spent a lot of
money on detectives investigating Nader.  Came up with nothing.  If you have
found all this stuff, I suggest you feather your nest by peddling it to the
big automotive companies who have good use to hate him.  I think the
pharmaceutical bigwigs would like to have it too.  Go for it.  I'd hate to
see you miss this opportunity to turn words to gold.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] onelist info

[Foxter]

I would like to complain 
about the way June is treating me.
Will someone please explain to her 
that she is flaming me and ask her to stop?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ynr Chyldz 
  Wyld 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 7:29 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] onelist info
  -Caveat Lector-    -Cui Bono?-From: 
  "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>I'm 
  passing on this message since it pertains to onelist and how they>send 
  mail through - not that I have seen much language on this 
  listthat>I would object too, if they consider skin objectionable we 
  could allbe>in trouble...>>Onelist has added a 
  new feature that some might find objectionableand>some might find 
  desirable. They have added something called a "Family>Filter", which 
  filters out list e-mail that might have language some>people don't want 
  to see in their e-mail. The first problem is THEY>DIDN'T NOTIFY MEMBERS 
  and they added the feature and added it TURNEDON>!!! It has been 
  slowing down the mail but worst af all, is that it's>keeping some mail 
  from getting through.As I mentioned in previous 
  emails:    1.  Foxter seems unable to read and 
  comprehend correctly    2.  I run a couple of 
  lists on Onelist; because of this, 
  I    subscribe to both the Onelist 
  moderators list, plus the email    
  list devoted to the Onelist/eGroups merger.  The 
  Family    Filter has been a recent 
  topic of discussion on these lists.The Family Filter has absolutely NO 
  effect on email, either in sendingit or in receiving it.  What it 
  DOES do is limit access to 'adult'groups on the website; if the filter is 
  turned on, one can't accessone'slists if they are rated 'adult', even 
  if you are already subscribed,andeven if you are owner/moderator of 
  the list (and acknowledged bug).The filter also affects what lists are 
  displayed when searching forlistson the website.>HOW TO 
  *TURN OFF* THE "FAMILY FILTER">Go to www.onelist.comAn easier way is to 
  go to http://www.onelist.com/family>I 
  suggest you write and complain,It won't accomplish anything.  
  List owners on the owner's email listhave already complained, and it's 
  been acknowledged that the familyfilter thing was handled badly.  
  Spamming Onlist/eGroups managementwon't accomplish 
  anything.>I noticed that I>was not receiving a lot of my 
  Onelist mail and my lists seemed>abnormally quiet for the last couple 
  of days.Then you were experiencing some other problem than the family 
  filter.As I mentioned above, the filter does NOT affect sending and 
  receivingemail to any list on Onelist, even those rated 'adult'; it 
  onlyaffectsaccessing the lists via the website.It was a couple 
  of days before I was aware of the filter being on, andthere was never a 
  problem with me receiving email from Onelist lists,even those which I 
  don't own and are rated 'adult'; and no member ofmylists (which ARE 
  rated adult) missed any email -- in fact, I warnedthemabout this 
  filter via a post to my lists.Perhaps Foxter sees a conspiracy in all 
  this, when only 
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  DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange 
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  soap-boxing!  These are sordid mattersand 'conspiracy theory'-with 
  its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds-is used politically 
  by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the 
  spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to 
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[CTRL] URGENT: SB 1699 - CA cell phone legislation

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 -Cui Bono?-

California cell phone legislation ~ hearings, Wednesday, March 29

California residents -- Pass this along:
E-mail (at least) the following note today, Tuesday:

   To: Rocky Rushing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Subject:  In support of SB 1699

   Please inform Senator Hayden of my support of the
   SB 1699 legislation -- regarding health effects of
   radiofrequency radiation.

   Thank you.

   ( Name, City )


.Forwarded by EMF-L
   Website... http://emfguru.com

-- Forwarded message --
From: Libby Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:33:35 -0800
Subj: California cell phone legislation ~ hearings, Wednesday, March 29


Please send your letter of support right away to Senator Tom Hayden at
the California State Capitol.

This important bill, the first such legislation in the United States,
would authorize the California State Health Department to review the
scientific literature on the health effects of radiofrequency
radiation, the frequency band used by cellular phones.  This bill would
require cellular telephone retailers to offer a hands-free earpiece or
headset when a cellular telephone or service contract is sold within
the state.   This bill would require cellular telephone manufacturers
to provide and cellular telephone retailers to post a warning sign at
point of sale.

The first round of hearings, before the Senate Health and Human Service
Committee, will be held next Wednesday, March 29 at 1:30 in the
Capitol.  Among the confirmed speakers who will testify are
Dr. Henry Lai  and Libby Kelley, CWTI.

Senator Tom Hayden
State Capitol Room 2080
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 445-1353
Staff person for the bill:  Rocky Rushing, 310  441-9084
Rocky Rushing's email is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

~See bill summary and text below~

BILL NUMBER: SB 1699INTRODUCED

 BILL TEXT

INTRODUCED BY   Senator Hayden

 FEBRUARY 22, 2000

An act to add Article 6 (commencing with Section 108670) to
Chapter 5 of Division 104 of the Health and Safety Code, relating to
cellular telephones.


 LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


SB 1699, as introduced, Hayden.  Health:  cellular telephones.
Under existing law the State Department of Health Services is
authorized to commence all proper and necessary actions to protect
and preserve the public health.
This bill would require cellular telephone retailers to offer a
hands-free earpiece or headset when a cellular telephone or service
contract is sold within the state.
This bill would require cellular telephone manufacturers to
provide and cellular telephone retailers to post a placard at the
point of sale.  The placard would state the possible health risks
associated with cellular telephones.  In addition, the placard would
be required to advise consumers how to protect themselves against
radiation effects from cellular telephones.
This bill would require the department to review existing surveys
and research concerning the health effects of cellular telephones.
This bill would require that unless the department determines that
cellular telephones have no adverse health effects by January 1,
2002, all cellular telephones sold after January 1, 2002, must
include a hands-free earpiece or other device to provide protection
against cellular telephone radiation.
Vote:  majority.  Appropriation:  no.  Fiscal committee:  yes.
State-mandated local program:  no.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:


   SECTION 1.  Article 6 (commencing with Section 108670) is added to
Chapter 5 of Division 104 of the Health and Safety Code, to read:

   Article 6.  Cellular Telephones

108670.  The Legislature hereby finds and declares all of the
following:
(a) Cellular telephones play a vital role in expanding
communication and information globally and are being marketed at
accelerating rates.
(b) Recent studies suggest the possibility of links between
cellular telephone use and human health impacts such as brain tumors,
memory loss, and genetic mutations.
(c) A study funded by the Cellular Telecommunications Industry
Association concluded that cellular telephone service users are at
risk of acoustic neuroma, a benign tumor of the auditory nerve, and
increased risk of neuroepithelial tumors on the outside of the brain.
   The same study found a positive correlation between the amount of
cellular telephone service use and tumor development.
(d) The federal Food and Drug Administration in October 1999
concluded: "Available science does not allow us to conclude that
mobile telephones are absolutely safe or unsafe."
(e) It is inappropriate that critical health and safety studies
lag behind the vast expansion of cellular telephone marketing.
108671.  (a) Retailers shall offer a hands-free earpiece or
headset for sale when a cellular telephone service or service
con

Re: [CTRL] onelist info

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

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From: "Foxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I'm passing on this message since it pertains to onelist and how they
>send mail through - not that I have seen much language on this list
that
>I would object too, if they consider skin objectionable we could all
be
>in trouble...
>
>Onelist has added a new feature that some might find objectionable
and
>some might find desirable. They have added something called a "Family
>Filter", which filters out list e-mail that might have language some
>people don't want to see in their e-mail. The first problem is THEY
>DIDN'T NOTIFY MEMBERS and they added the feature and added it TURNED
ON
>!!! It has been slowing down the mail but worst af all, is that it's
>keeping some mail from getting through.

As I mentioned in previous emails:

1.  Foxter seems unable to read and comprehend correctly

2.  I run a couple of lists on Onelist; because of this, I
subscribe to both the Onelist moderators list, plus the email
list devoted to the Onelist/eGroups merger.  The Family
Filter has been a recent topic of discussion on these lists.

The Family Filter has absolutely NO effect on email, either in sending
it or in receiving it.  What it DOES do is limit access to 'adult'
groups on the website; if the filter is turned on, one can't access
one's
lists if they are rated 'adult', even if you are already subscribed,
and
even if you are owner/moderator of the list (and acknowledged bug).

The filter also affects what lists are displayed when searching for
lists
on the website.


>HOW TO *TURN OFF* THE "FAMILY FILTER"
>Go to www.onelist.com

An easier way is to go to http://www.onelist.com/family


>I suggest you write and complain,

It won't accomplish anything.  List owners on the owner's email list
have already complained, and it's been acknowledged that the family
filter thing was handled badly.  Spamming Onlist/eGroups management
won't accomplish anything.


>I noticed that I
>was not receiving a lot of my Onelist mail and my lists seemed
>abnormally quiet for the last couple of days.

Then you were experiencing some other problem than the family filter.
As I mentioned above, the filter does NOT affect sending and receiving
email to any list on Onelist, even those rated 'adult'; it only
affects
accessing the lists via the website.

It was a couple of days before I was aware of the filter being on, and
there was never a problem with me receiving email from Onelist lists,
even those which I don't own and are rated 'adult'; and no member of
my
lists (which ARE rated adult) missed any email -- in fact, I warned
them
about this filter via a post to my lists.

Perhaps Foxter sees a conspiracy in all this, when only incompetentcy
suffices


June

June

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[CTRL] [Fwd: USA: A16 Medical Teams' Advice for Protesters (April 16 & 17)]

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 Original Message 
Subject: USA: A16 Medical Teams' Advice for Protesters (April 16 & 17)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:36:27 -0600 (CST)
From: "Darini Nicholas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: ?
To: undisclosed-recipients:;

 
  A - I N F O S  N E W S  S E R V I C E
http://www.ainfos.ca/
 

The A16 Medical Team's Goals, Strategy & General Advice for Protesters
(from the A16 Medical Collective)

The goal of the A16 Medical Team is to assist with the efforts to shut down
the World Bank/IMF which is robbing our sisters and brothers worldwide of
their ability to provide and receive health care, education, a living wage
and other life essentials. The Medical Team will help you, the warriors for
global justice, stay as active, healthy and engaged in the struggle as
possible. We will provide free treatment to the best of our ability to
anyone who requests it. We will offer 'straight' (allopathic) and
'complementary' (herbal, homeopathic, etc.) care.

The primary health care will take place in the protest zone by trained
Street Medics, and you the protesters. The medics will facilitate assistance
to anyone who desires it. The medics will be assigned to areas of action,
affinity groups, and/or hot zones.

More intensive treatment will be provided in the vicinity of the protests.

Outside the protest zone, skilled health practitioners who can provide
further assistance will care for people who need more intensive treatment
than what is available in the field, or refer people to other health care --
i.e. hospital, adjunct therapy, etc..

YOU NEED TO KNOW:

If you are well prepared mentally and have essential supplies and knowledge,
you will probably not need our medical assistance. Fear & confusion are the
State's major weapon. Confidence, determination, preparation and awareness
of your strength is your best weapon.

If you are going to be associated with the civil disobedience /
direct-action to blockade the World Bank and IMF, the A16 Medical Team wants
you and your affinity groups to learn simple preparations, and bring along
essential supplies. This will help you avoid the worst effects of the
POSSIBLE use of police violence from tear gas, pepper spray and plastic
bullets. They may use different tactics and weapons. Our advice is designed
to help you remain in action for global justice, so be sure to read it and
pass it around.

We will supply and train as many medics as possible. But you, the regular
protesters are the primary health care providers.

You need to know about essential & optional supplies, clothes & gear to
bring to the protest, and basic knowledge, prevention and treatment of
effects from tear gas, pepper spray, plastic bullets and common injuries.

For more information, see the:
1) A16-Medical: Protesters' Supplies to Bring (will be posted soon)
2) A16-Medical: Protesters' Prevention & Treatment Advice (available March
24)

Each affinity group (AG) is asked to designate someone as their Medical
Monitor. The Medical Monitor will be responsible for:
1- making sure that the AG has basic prevention/treatment supplies,
2- knowing basic prevention & first aid,
3- knowing how to access the A16 medical system,
4- making sure their comrades are treated and followed-up
5- documenting signs, symptoms and evaluation of treatment
Medical Monitors will benefit by attending an A16 Medical Team Street Medics
' training prior to the action. For more information, see the: A16-Medical:
Medical Monitor's Information (which will come out in early April)

USE YOUR HEAD:
* PLAN AHEAD: For essential needs, care & supplies. Know what to expect.
Know how to get assistance. How to re-contact your buddies if separated.
* ATTITUDE: You are powerful. You can easily withstand most of what the
police throw at you, and you are a warrior for justice. Remember, pain is
only temporary, and we are extremely strong.
* THE #1 WEAPON OF THE POLICE IS FEAR. Once you control that, tear gas,
pepper spray, plastic bullets and other police tactics are easily
manageable.
*COMMON SENSE: Keep your wits, assess what is going down and what needs to
be done. BE CALM & FOCUSED when things get most intense. React to danger or
warning signs sooner - not later. Watch for signs of physical and mental
problems in yourself and others. Cool down others who exhibit panic
behavior.
*BEWARE OF RUMORS: They are usually false, and foster fear. Deal with the
known truth.
*DOCUMENT police actions, brutality & injuries.
*ANGER Intense anger is quite common with pepper spray, and can be useful if
you are prepared and able to focus it. Maybe you can use your anger to
motivate you to recover faster and get back in the action again. Maybe it
will provide you with energy to get out to a safe space.

INFORMATION FOR THOSE RISKING ARREST with HEALTH CONDITIONS:
* If you have any health co

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..

>From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html

25 Rules of PropagandaFebruary 29, 2000 The Black Helicopter Chronicles Page 1
25 Rules of PropagandaHear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a
public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and
you never have to deal with the issues.
  Become incredulous and indignant.
Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be
used to show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group
or theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit.
  Create rumor mongers.
Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or
evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms
mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially
well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the
facts are through such "arguable rumors". If you can associate the material
with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a "wild rumor" which can have
no basis in fact.
  Use a straw man.
Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can
easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad.
Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your
interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the
weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and
destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and
fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
  Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule.
This is also known as the primary "attack the messenger" ploy, though other
methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with
unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing",
"terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists",
"religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others
shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid
dealing with issues.
  Hit and Run.
In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent
position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply
ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to
-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be
called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning -- simply make an
accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any
subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.
  Question motives.
Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent
operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids
discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.
  Invoke authority.
Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your
argument with enough "jargon" and "minutiae" to illustrate you are "one who
knows", and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or
demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
  Play Dumb.
No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing
issues by denial that they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any
proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix
well for maximum effect.
  Associate opponent charges with old news.
A derivative of -- the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high
-- visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were
already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side
raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the
initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new
ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge
and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current
issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the
original source.
  Establish and rely upon fall-back positions.
Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the "high road" and
"confess" with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made --
but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of
proportion and imply greater criminalities which, "just isn't so." Others
can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner
sympathy and respect for "coming clean" and "owning up" to yo

[CTRL] BRITISH-ISRAEL - The Judaizers

[Nicky Molloy]

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THE CONSPIRACY WAS STRONG


Part II: BRITISH-ISRAEL
THE JUDAIZERS

http://watch.pair.com/brit-israel.html


There have been approximately thirty recognized splinter organizations
resulting from Worldwide Church of God - Organizational Splits, although
other sources estimate that hundreds of groups have formed from the WCG. It
is a common practice of conspiratorial organizations to subdivide and create
new fronts with diverse names in order to diffuse public perception of the
greater conspiracy which is still intact. This plan goes into action
especially when the mother organization is exposed or discredited.

Today, numerous Sabbatarian, Restoration, British-Israel, Messianic and
Sacred Name organizations, which have been spawned by the WCG, are carrying
on the work of the late Herbert W. Armstrong, indoctrinating new disciples
in his British-Israel teachings and worldview. In June 1998, an Israel
Identity Conference held in the United States and Australia was promoted and
attended by numerous Church of God affiliates and Sabbatarian organizations.
These included the Worldwide Church of God, United Church of God,
British-Israel World Federation, Global Church of God, Christian Educational
Services, Servant's News magazine, Faith in Australia magazine, The Journal
newspaper, The Independent Church of God, Perspectives magazine, Alert
newsletter, Sabbath History newsletter, The Shofar newsletter, Origins of
Nations magazine/History Research Projects. [Craig White, News of the Israel
Identity Conference with Dr Rick Sherrod, The Journal, 8-24-98]

According to Personal Freedom Outreach, Christian Education Services is a
splinter group of The Way International cult founded in 1985 by Victor Paul
Wierwille who denied the Trinity and divinity of Jesus Christ, used only the
Aramaic version of the Bible, rejected Sunday worship, denied the Holocaust
and, during the late 1960s and 70s, recruited large numbers of young people
from the Jesus Movement.

As well, the Israel Identity Conference was promoted by James Trimm of the
Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism, which connects through the
Messianic Friends Network with numerous Messianic organizations such as Jews
for Jesus and Messengers of Messiah. Mention was made in a SANJ message
dated 8/17/98 that an international conference is being planned in Jerusalem
for several reasons, one being that "Jerusalem is destined to be the capital
city of United Israel including both Judah and the Lost Ten Tribes." Another
attraction in Jerusalem is the presence of rabbis such as Yair Davidy of
Brit-Am Israel. The goal is recognition that the "Jews of Judah" and the
Lost Tribes are brothers, to the end they will be reconciled and reunited.
SANJ also hosts the Lost Tribes Forum -- "one of several Rabbinic
organizations (including Yair Davidy of Brit-Am) which teach that the Lost
Tribes migrated to Europe." (8/28/98) Yair Davidy, who denies the divinity
of Jesus Christ, also teaches that present day Jews are from the Tribes of
Judah and Benjamin and the tribe of Joseph is divided into Ephraim which is
Great Britain, and Mannaseh, the United States.

Herbert Armstrong's global agenda is also being fulfilled through
organizations like Sir Anthony Buzzard's Restoration Fellowship and the
greater Church of God General Council whose publication, The Journal,
promotes the Garner Ted Armstrong Evangelistic Association and the Worldwide
Church of God. The Journal also lists the Olive-Hebrew Roots CDRom
Encyclopaedia promoted by HRM organizations and published by the Saltshakers
Ltd in London. The Olive-Hebrew Roots CD-Rom carries articles written by
Andrew Gould, Jacob Prasch, and admitted kabbalist, Avi ben Mordecai, among
other Messianic teachers.

On his Restoration Fellowship web page, Sir Anthony Buzzard explains the
Hebrew Roots Concept of Christianity. One issue of the COG Journal announced
a Hebrew Roots conference to be held at the Atlanta Bible College where Sir
Anthony serves on staff:

"The conferees will study the 'Hebrew roots of our faith' [and] our biblical
unitarian heritage as expounded by such distinguished persons as Sir Isaac
Newton and John Milton." [both famous English Rosicrucians-BA]

A pastor of a major Hebrew Roots organization, Messengers of Messiah, Peter
Michas subscribes to the doctrines of the Jerusalem School of Synoptic
Research, a non-Christian Jesus Seminar-type think tank which denies the
inspiration of the Greek New Testament. The JSSR is a "consortium of Jewish
and Christian scholars" who, like the Unitarian Anthony Buzzard, deny the
deity of Jesus Christ, identifying Him as being merely "like other Jewish
sages of that time."

Having rejected the Greek New Testament, Peter Michas substitutes rabbinic
literature (the Babylonian Talmud, Mishnah, Midrash) and other Judaic
writings as the interpreter of New Testament doctrine. Notwithstanding this
departure from Scripture, The Christian

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"The honest man," writes Fr. Wathen, "cannot help seeing that the last three
Popes (omitting all mention of Pope John Paul I) have contributed
positively, powerfully and directly toward fulfilling the Masonic program
for the radical transformation of the Church.' (Ascend, p. 424). Oxfort
concludes that the Popes of Vatican II, 'beginning with John XXIII, have
systematically betrayed the great body of Catholic Social Doctrine that was
established...on Rerum Novarum... Paul VI's 'development which is the new
name for peace" ...means the merging of the "two opposing blocs of the
superpowers into a vast, collectivist gulag. And the conciliar Church is the
principle instrument to bring this unification of the whole human race
about, because she is the 'sacrament and sign...of all mankind" (Lumen
Gentium 1).

...What separates the authentic Catholic Social Doctrine from the evil
illusions of the Popes of the catastrophic Vatican II is this: the former is
centered on Jesus Christ, the Divine Redeemer of the world from all its
social ills. The Popes of Vatican II, on the other hand, center their
heresies on "modern man" and, as the Revolution demands, relate "all things
on earth" to "man as their center and crown. (Gaudium et Spec 12)"
(Christian Counter-Revolution 57).

We hasten to add that we deplore the false salvation of Catholicism, written
into the Declarations of the Council of Trent and never repented of, that
leads multitudes to put their faith in sacraments, saints, apparitions,
priests and the papacy, which can never serve as mediators between God and
men.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ
Jesus: who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. (I
Tim. 2:5)

However, the Catholic Church may at least be credited with contending for
and preserving throughout the history of Western Civilization the doctrine
of the divinity of Jesus Christ and the Trinity. This against the onslaught
of gnosticism which assaulted Christendom with various heresies, which are
identified in the aforementioned Decrees of the Ecumenical Councils. These
include the ancient Templar and present New Age notion that Jesus married
Mary Magdalene, whose offspring presently exist in a divine Merovingian
bloodline which will shortly rule the world from the throne of the rebuilt
Temple in Jerusalem.

We have arrived at this opinion after extensive research on the doctrines,
history and political aspirations of a network of operatives who can be
identified with Kabbalism and Freemasonry. A good portion of our web site is
devoted to exposure of this network and its infiltration of Church and
government. For background information on this network, including its
origins in Babylon, please take time to read the following reports which
represent hundreds of hours of research on the part of those who contribute
to the Watch Unto Prayer ministry:

The Rosicrucian Connection
The Masonic New World Order
A Sacred Assembly
To Embrace Hebrew Roots
The Lubavitch Movement

Having stated our case, we now present the London Daily Telegraph article on
the UMC and a commentary which introduces it, noting that at the end of the
page is a subscription form for Rev. Morrison's very worthwhile e-mail
newsletter.





METHODISTS TO WORSHIP "GOD THE MOTHER"

Dear Friends:

An article has appeared in the London Daily Telegraph today,18th Feb,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ) with the title "Methodists to Worship 'God the
Mother'", in reference to the introduction of the new Methodist Worship Book
for the Millennium. (The full article appears at the very foot of this
mail). In this worship book there is a prayer which reads:

"God our Father and our Mother,
we give you thanks and praise
for all that you have made,
for the stars in their splendour and the world in its wonder
and for the glorious gift of human life.
With the saints and angels in heaven,
we praise your holy name."

In defence of this prayer (and I quote from the Telegraph article), "Neil
Dixon, the secretary of the Faith and Order Committee, said the prayer was
not an attempt to change the gender of God. During a press conference in
Welsey's Chapel in the City of London Mr Dixon said: "God is not a person.
God is a spirit and is neither male nor female. He is beyond gender. The
fact we have used male imagery for centuries has reinforced the image of God
as a man. But if all human beings are created in God's image then feminine
as well as masculine attributes must reflect God's nature."

Now this is a very clever but -- if I may say so -- devious argument. For a
number of things are being confused here through false inferences. First, it
is quite correct to say that God is spirit and therefore cannot possibly be
e

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 http://watch.pair.com/shekhinah.html
For links

The appended post is a commentary on the latest rejection by the United
Methodist Church of orthodox Christian doctrine and embrace of Theosophy or
Ancient Wisdom. Prior to this departure from sound doctrine, the UMC
Discipleship Resources published a Christian Initiation Series whose stated
purpose is "designed to help United Methodist and other congregations guide
individuals who seek initiation into the Christian faith through baptism."

Rites of initiation often involve invocation of the hieros gamos, the divine
feminine. This goddess is in reality the sacred prostitute which Cynthia and
Robert Hicks borrowed from The Sacred Prostitute: Eternal Aspect of the
Feminine for the Promise Keepers publication, Masculine Journey.

It seems that the UMC has now included a prayer to "God the Mother" in its
worship book for the Millennium. The feminist faction cites medieval mystic,
Dame Julian of Norwich as justification for this concept of God. In The
Trojan Horse, Samantha Smith and Brenda Scott mention Richard Foster's
Devotional Classics regarding Dame Juliana: ... Juliana of Norwich showed
him the depths of Divine Love ... of' a somewhat sensual and 'intimate'
relationship with God." (p.129)

The feminist concept of the divine feminine term "Shekhinah" and the related
occult trinity of the Kabbalah is elucidated on the following Kabbalist web
site. In Kabbalah, the term for Holy Spirit, Ruach, supposedly has a
feminine gender and is "the Mother." Therefore, say the Kabbalists, "the
Christian Trinity properly translated should be Father, Son and Mother."

THE HIEROS GAMOS: THE JEWISH RESTORATION & SHEKHINAH

Fulfilling the Torah of Moses in the Shekhinah and the Asherah

Many Kabbalists conceive of God as embodying both male and female energies,
which were divided during creation as part of the process of emanation. They
speak of the shekhinah, which in traditional Judaism means the divine
presence on earth, as the feminine aspect or mystical bride of God. And they
often use language as a means to analyze such mysteries, as in this excerpt
from a contemporary non-Jewish Kabbalist which offers an explanation for the
mysterious use of the plural form for God early in the Bible:

The Hebrew word used to denominate God in Genesis is Elohim. This word is a
plural formed from the feminine singular ALH (Eloh) by adding IM to it.
Since IM is the termination of the masculine plural, added to a feminine
noun it makes ELOHIM a female potency united to a male principle, and thus
capable of having an offspring. The same intended misconception is given in
the Christian idea of the Holy Trinity: Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost. In
the Kabbalah the Deity manifests simultaneously as Mother and Father and
thus begets the Son. We are told that the Holy Spirit is essentially
masculine, but the Hebrew word used in the Scriptures to denote spirit is
Ruach, a feminine noun. The Holy Spirit is really the Mother, and thus the
Christian Trinity properly translated should be Father, Son and Mother. -
Migne Gonzalez-Wippler, A Kabbalah for the Modern World

The website of Hebrew scholar Eliezer Segal of the University of Calgary
explains the function of the Ten Sefirot of the Kabbalah as the pathway to
divinity. The union of the Shekhinah with the upper sefirot consummates the
marriage of male and female elements:

The Shekhinah is a Talmudic concept representing God's dwelling and
immanence in the created world... It is through the Shekhinah that humans
can experience the Divine. The passivity of the Shekhinah is often
emphasized (equated with its femininity), as the recipient of forces from
the higher Sefirot... Human Imagery (Primordial Man)... The Shekhinah is
often portrayed as a bride or princess whose male lover is the composite of
the nine upper sefirot, represented by the prince/bridegroom Tiferet.

The Ten Sefirot of the Kabbalist Tree of Life are the attributes or
emanations of God and also the path of initiation which unifies in the
initiate the male and female attributes of Adam Kadmon, aka "God," to
produce the Son. Evidence that the Hebrew Roots embraces the gnostic
interpretation of Shekhinah may be found by comparing the Kabbalah with Avi
ben Mordecai's promotion of the Sefirot:

The Ten Sefirot of the Kabbalah: This Sefirah unites all the upper nine
powers….Tif'eret is the offspring of Hokhmah and Binah. It is often
symbolized as a bridegroom or prince who strives to be united with the
Shekhinah. Their union produces the human soul."

Avi ben Mordecai: ...But, there is something more in the use of the word
Grace in that it ties in powerfully with a teaching in Judaism called Torat
HaSod which is describing an emanated attribute of G-d called Tiferet which
is part of something else called the lower Seven Sefirot of Adam Kadmon.

We include this information to show t

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The Edgar Cayce Foundation funded SRI again in 1982, at which time the
location of the mysterious chambers under the paw of the Great Sphinx was
verified by SRI:

"Adding to the intrigue were further discoveries that the SRI made around
the Sphinx in 1982 as a result of yet another project financed by the Edgar
Cayce Foundation. Mark Lehner . . . described what the SRI did as follows:

"They brought a very powerful acoustical sounder, which is a long
pencil-shaped thing...They put the sounder underneath the paw [of the
Sphinx] and always got a good, clear signal - there's no underground cavity
blocking it. And they put it along the paw between the elbow and that box on
the side...and there was always a good signal. But, at my prompting, they
put it on the bedrock floor inside the box - and it was dead in three places
where they put it down, as though there is some kind of opening or empty
space underneath that was blocking the signal..." (p. 93)

The current president of the A.R.E. and Edgar Cayce Foundation is Cayce's
grandson, Charles T. Cayce. According to Hancock and Bauval, these
organizations have carried on various initiatives at the Giza pyramid for
the past two decades. Charles Cayce has expressed his conviction that "the
truth about Giza was going to emerge and the 'Hall of Records' was going to
be discovered, just as Edgar Cayce had prophesied." (p. 97-8)

Hancock and Bauval also state that, in March 1996, the Egyptian Antiquities
Organization granted a one-year renewable license for the project at the
Sphinx and that team members consulted with former NASA consultant, Dr.
James Hurtak, and SRI consultant, Richard Hoagland -- the men with whom
Lambert Dolphin worked on the Independent Mars Project. Lambert Dolphin's
Web Links include various websites which purvey esoteric science, including
Richard Hoagland's UFO News. (p. 315)

In 1985, the Edgar Cayce Foundation and A.R.E. magazine, "Venture Inward,"
identified the primary agency created to fulfill Edgar Cayce's prophecy
concerning the second coming of Christ:

"There has been one systematic search, a sort of direct shot at finding the
Hall of Records, when the Edgar Cayce Foundation funded SRI
International..." (p. 85)

For information on the Freemason's control of NASA and connections with
Edgar Cayce Foundation, please refer to Cosmic Christmas under Remote
Viewers.

The Fox Channel documentary opened with the proposition that an advanced
civilization once populated Mars until a cataclysmic event caused it to
relocate to Earth. This unproven hypothesis which is underwritten by the
American taxpayers, is defended in a paper, The Sphinx / Mars Connection
also by Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock. In this report, the Masonic
Egyptologists mention Lambert Dolphin's influence and enterprise with NASA
consultant, Richard Hoagland, in pioneering the Independent Mars
Investigation Project under the sponsorship of SRI.

THE MYSTERIOUS STRUCTURES THAT MAY UPSTAGE
NASA'S EVIDENCE OF MARTIAN LIFE

August 17-19, 1996
from the 'Daily Mail' - London

by Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock
Could the sphinx of Mars be proof of an alien civilization as great as our
own?

"...Former NASA consultant Richard Hoagland is convinced there may be a
'terrestrial connection' between Giza and Cydonia - the region of Mars where
the mysterious structures are located - perhaps a common source that
imparted the same legacy of knowledge and symbolism on both worlds.

"Hoagland's interest in Giza began when he met Dr. Lambert Dolphin, a
scientist from the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) who had conducted radar
and seismographic research to locate hidden chambers near and under the
Great Sphinx.

"Dr. Dolphin was captivated by Hoagland's idea of a 'Martian Sphinx' - the
Face - and , in 1983, was instrumental in helping Hoagland set up the
Independent Mars Investigation Project under the aegis of SRI..."

The Sphinx Bulletin by the same authors indicates there has been no minor
controversy between the Egyptian government which has sought to preserve the
Egyptian heritage and the Masonic Don Quixotes who see sphinxes and pyramids
in the sky, rather than windmills, and spend their lives and our substance
pursuing hidden caverns containing spurious records of lost civilizations
from outer space.

Finally, a brief portion of the Appendix of The Message of the Sphinx, is
worth quoting which shows the professional relationship between Lambert
Dolphin of Stanford Research Institute and Dr. Zahi Hawass, former Director
and present Undersecretary of State for Egypt's Giza Plateau of the Egyptian
Antiquity Organization who, we are told, discovered the tomb of Osiris this
week on Fox TV.

Appendix 5

The Door Inside the Great Pyramid;

Tunnels - and Chambers Under the Great Sphinx

Further developments

Since the first English-language edition of this book went to press in
February i996 there have 

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Links on url.

On March 2, 1999, the Fox Channel TV featured a special two-hour program on
the opening of the sealed tombs of the Unknown and the Queen's Pyramid at
Giza in Egypt. The live broadcast presented information on the search for
the Hall of Records at the Great Sphinx, which supposedly contains the
records of the lost civilization of Atlantis. With feigned surprise, Dr.
Zahi Hawass, Director of the Egyptian Antiquity Organization, found instead
the tomb of the Egyptian god, Osiris!

This TV special was extremely relevant to our research as part of the
inculturation of society into the mythology of the god Osiris and the
Gnostic religious system which will seek to supplant orthodox Christianity
at the turn of the Millennium.

Those who have read the Cosmic Christmas report and/or have been on our
mailing list for some time would have recognized the program as a
continuation of the ongoing New Age attempt to validate the ancient mystery
religions and return mankind to the worship of Osiris, reincarnated in his
son, Horus. The mystery religions, aka Mystery Babylon of Revelation 17,
worship Horus in various forms, i.e., Freemasons worship the Egyptian
Osiris/Horus and Kabbalists worship this same god by the Chaldean name of
Tammuz (Ezekiel 8:13). Alexander Hislop wrote in The Two Babylons:

"The identity of Nimrod, however, and the Egyptian, Osiris, having been
established, we have thereby light as to Nimrod's death. Osiris met with a
violent death, and that violent death of Osiris was the central theme of the
whole idolatry of Egypt. If Osiris was Nimrod, as we have seen, that violent
death which the Egyptians so pathetically deplored in their annual festivals
was just the death of Nimrod. The accounts in regard to the death of the god
worshipped in the several mysteries of the different countries are all to
the same effect. A statement of Plato seems to show, that in his day the
Egyptian Osiris was regarded as identical to Tammuz; and Tammuz is well
known to have been the same as Adonis, the famous Huntsman, for whose death
Venus is fabled to have made such bitter lamentations. As the women of Egypt
wept for Osiris, as the Phenician and Assyrian women wept for Tammuz, so in
Greece and Rome the women wept for Bacchus, whose name, as we have seen,
means 'The bewailed,' or 'Lamented one.'" (p. 56)

Watching closely the developments in Egypt are many modern worshippers of
Osiris, such as the Skull & Bones initiates of the George Bush family.
George Bush, Jr., the Governor of Texas, coincidentally announced his
candidacy for President the same day as the TV-staged discovery of the tomb
of Osiris, while George Bush Sr. plans to be at the Egyptian pyramids on New
Year's Eve 1999. William Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse, mentions this
Millennial New Years Eve event on p. 73:

"Simultaneously a vault containing the ancient records of the earth will be
opened in Egypt. The opening of the vault will usher in the millennium. A
great celebration has already been planned by the Millennium Society to take
place at the pyramids in Egypt. According to the January 3, 1989, edition of
the Arizona Daily Star, 'President-elect Bush is spending this New Year's
holiday at Camp David, Maryland, but in 10 years he may be in Egypt.
Organizers of the Millennium Society say he's already committed to ushering
in the next century at the Great Pyramid of Cheops in Giza.'"

On the internet is found an edited portion of Behold a Pale Horse in which
Cooper predicts a sequence of apocalyptic events which will lead to the
discovery and acceptance by humanity of the presumed records of the lost
civilization of Atlantis.

William Cooper also relates to Bible prophecy the role of NASA in a project
which he believes is designed to produce an explosion on Jupiter that will
be perceived as a prophetic sign. This and other apocalyptic catastrophes
which NASA may be planning and which will lead to the revealing of the
counterfeit Christ are covered in our Cosmic Christmas report.

Although it is plausible that a series of catastrophes will lead mankind to
embrace the spurious archaeological records as valid, Mr. Cooper makes us
wonder whether he is exposing or promoting the mystery religions when he
gives credence further on to the Grail mythos of the Rosicrucian
brotherhood:

"I am amazed at the authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail and the information
that they have unearthed. Most of all I am amazed at their inability to put
the puzzle together. The treasure hidden in France is not the treasure of
the Temple of Jerusalem. It is the Holy Grail itself, the robe of Jesus, the
last remaining pieces of the Cross of Crucifixion, and, according to my
sources, someone's bones. I can tell you that the reality of the bones will
shake the world to its very foundations if I have been told the truth. The
relics are hidden in

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:06:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Teacher of YHVH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: "Curtains" for Einkike.

From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

No. But I know how to build robots which have more intelligence and
learning ability than any human on the planet. I estimate we could put
them in place by 2012 AD...THE END according to the Mayan Calendar which
hangs over my computers. By comparison the ability to build suit-case
nuclear weapons is child's play as Military Minister Eggleton and Industry
Minister Manley will confirm. Don't forget that Canada put the third
component in place for the Manhatten Project (which has nothing to do
Eisenkike) and you will find my fishing lodge, "Frontier Lodge" still
operating in the fly-in-only regions of the NWT Border which are awash in
the U deposits which supplied to the first A Bombs. (In Alberta I was a
"Class B" Licensed Big Game Guide). In honour of "Frontier Lodge" as it is
called (ref Alberta Tourism) I would gladly provide the GNR
(Genetic/Nuclear/Robotic a la Bill Joy) components for WW III ...if it is
called for. But I am still trying to figure out who are the good guys and
who are the bad guys. After you get out of the hospital let me know what
you think. We are not as stupid as y'all think. We have as many
American-Canadians as Chinese-Canadians (about 1,000,000 each) and I have
no preference for one over the other.
FWP
(King Franklin the First of False Creek).

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On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Teacher of YHVH wrote:

> Have you tried this?
> If so, what were your results?
> Sounds interesting.
> I went to a meeting one time where a guy had these big things wrapped in
> coils and said that he talked to god with them.   He said that they were
> transmitters and receivers.  But I never heard God speak with them.  I
> always wondered if a person could do something else with them.
> Sherry
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:25 PM
> Subject: "Curtains" for Einkike. (fwd)
>
>
> 
> ---
>  http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm
> 
> ---
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:20:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: "Curtains" for Einkike.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 02:44:26 GMT
> From: Ted Cousins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CTRL] Faster-than-light energy transmission system developed!
>
> -Caveat Lector-   http://www.ctrl.org/">
>  -Cui Bono?-
>
> United States Patent  6,025,810 (URL: http://www.uspto.gov)
> Strom  February 15, 2000
>
> Hyper-light-speed antenna
>
>
> Abstract
> A method to transmit and receive electromagnetic waves which comprises
> generating opposing magnetic fields having a plane of maximum force running
> perpendicular to a longitudinal axis of the magnetic field; generating a
> heat source along an axis parallel to the longitudinal axis of the magnetic
> field; generating an accelerator parallel to and in close proximity to the
> heat source, thereby creating an input and output port; and generating a
> communications signal into the input and output port, thereby sending the
> signal at a speed faster than light.
>
>
> Inventors:  Strom; David L. (1615 Geneva St., Aurora, CO 80010)
> Appl. No.:  942824
> Filed:  October 2, 1997
>
> U.S. Class: 343/787; 343/711; 343/721; 343/895
> Intern'l Class:  H01Q 001/32
> Field of Search:  343/711,713,721,725,787,788,895
>
>
>
> References Cited [Referenced By]
>
>
> U.S. Patent Documents
> 5714959 Feb., 1998 Troy et al. 343/713.
>
> Primary Examiner: Wong; Don
> Assistant Examiner: Clinger; James
> Attorney, Agent or Firm: Martin; Rick
>
>
> Parent Case Text
>
>
> CROSS-REFERENCE TO RELATED APPLICATION
>
> This application is a non-provisional application claiming the benefits of
> provisional application No. 60/028,204 filed Oct. 2, 1996.
>
>
> Claims
>
>
>
> 1. A method to transmit and receive electromagnetic waves comprising:
>
> generating opposing magnetic fields each having a plane of maximum force
> running perpendicular to a longitudinal axis of the respective magnetic
> field;
>
> generating heat from a heat source along an axis parall

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Russia's Putin may keep 
defence minister-sources
By Martin Nesirky 
MOSCOW, March 27 (Reuters) - Russian President-elect Vladimir 
Putin will meet Defence Minister Igor Sergeyev on Tuesday and may 
announce he has prolonged the marshal's contract for another year, 
defence and Kremlin sources said on Monday. 
Sergeyev reached the retirement age of 60 in April two years ago 
but then-President Boris Yeltsin signed a decree giving the former 
nuclear missile chief another year at the ministry. He then extended 
the contract again last year. 
"Putin has signed a document prolonging Sergeyev's term for 
another year," said one defence expert. 
There has been considerable speculation about whether Putin, who 
was elected president on Sunday, will seek a new, younger face or 
keep Sergeyev as minister. 
If he has opted for Sergeyev, it would be to ensure stability in 
the armed forces and give him a chance to press on with reforms, 
military experts say. 
Putin, an ex-KGB spy with an affinity for defence affairs, has 
made military reform and funding for the long demoralised armed 
forces one of his priorities. He impressed the military by launching 
war against rebels in Chechnya and won strong backing from defence 
commanders. 
A Kremlin source said a meeting was planned between Putin and 
Sergeyev in the Kremlin on Tuesday. 
"As I understand it, if such a decree is being prepared or 
has been signed then probably it will be announced at that 
meeting," the source said. 

SYMBOLIC VALUE IF SERGEYEV TERM EXTENDED 
The Kremlin and Defence Ministry press offices could not confirm 
Putin had asked Sergeyev, Russia's only post-Soviet marshal, to stay 
on. Sergeyev's contract runs out on April 20. 
Putin met his so-called power ministers -- those for defence, the 
interior and foreign affairs -- and intelligence chiefs on Monday, 
his first official meeting after being elected president. 
There was no word from that meeting on Sergeyev's future. 
Sergeyev has a reputation as a hard-working if somewhat ponderous 
commander who has pushed for reform within severe financial 
constraints. He has cut the size of the armed forces to 1.2 million 
men and women but funding remains tight. 
There would be clear symbolic value in extending Sergeyev's 
contract even before Putin is inaugurated in early May. Putin cannot 
name his prime minister and new government until then. 
Vadim Solovyov, managing editor of the military weekly 
Nezavisimoye Voyennoye Obozreniye, told Reuters it was possible the 
extension would be purely technical and last only from April 20, 
Sergeyev's birthday, until the inauguration. 
Others mentioned as possible defence ministers include the Chief 
of General Staff, Anatoly Kvashnin, and the head of defence 
committee of the State Duma (lower house of parliament), Andrei 
Nikolayev. 

[CTRL] Fw: Reuters: Putin still to show true colors

[Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General]

 
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Russia's Putin still to 
show his true colours
By Timothy Heritage 
MOSCOW, March 27 (Reuters) - Will the real Vladimir Putin please 
stand up! 
The former KGB agent won Russia's presidential election on Sunday 
without a clear economic or political programme, largely thanks to 
his image as a tough guy who has waged war against rebels in 
Chechnya and is ready to crack down on corruption. 
Now the hard part begins. 
In the coming weeks and months, Putin will have to show his true 
colours as he tackles the huge political, economic and military 
challenges that lie ahead in his impoverished and demoralised 
country. 
No one is expecting miracles and Putin is promising none. 
"The question remains what does Mr Putin really want to do. 
He ran on no platform in effect other than a strong state and 
stability," Charles Blitzer, a London-based economist who used 
to work in Moscow, told Reuters Television. 
"It's still an open question what he wants to do...My guess 
is nothing is going to change very quickly." 

HUGE CHALLENGES 
The challenges Putin faces are immense. On the political front, 
there is war in Chechnya, an opposition Communist Party still able 
to muster nearly 30 percent at the polls, crime and corruption are 
rampant and ordinary people are demoralised. 
Russia is desperately in need of stability. Governments have come 
and gone with alarming regularity in the past few years, some 
regional leaders have become fiercely independent of the Kremlin and 
foreign policy has often been criticised as weak. 
The economy is stronger than at any time since the rouble crashed 
in August 1998, but recovery remains fragile. Western investors say 
a small group of businessmen -- the so-called "oligarchs" 
-- who have political influence beyond their economic weight still 
impede reforms. 
Tax evasion deprives state coffers of vast amounts and the the 
International Monetary Fund says structural reforms, such as a new 
law on bankruptcies and a reduction of barter trade, are needed 
before it unfreezes a $4.6 billion loan package. 
Putin has pledged commitment to democracy and market economic 
reforms, but has not said how he will do it. 
Analysts expect some government changes, including appointment of 
a loyal prime minister who is unlikely to challenge his authority. 
The defence, interior and foreign ministers' posts could be reviewed 
but a major change of direction is unlikely. 
Foreign policy is also unlikely to change dramatically, but is 
expected to focus more on Russia's economic interests. 
"Much depends on what exactly he does in economics and 
foreign policy, and much will become clearer now," said Yevgeny 
Volk of the Heritage Foundation think-tank in Moscow. 
"Mr Putin will be more pragmatic. He will try to protect 
Russian national interests, but he will refrain from rhetoric that 
would cause a deterioration in relations with the West." 
PLATFORM TO LAUNCH REFORMS 
Putin gave few clues about his plans on Monday but made clear he 
expects a long and hard struggle. 
"A lot of things that will lead to many controversies need 
to be done," he said. 
His absolute majority in Sunday's poll, making a second round 
runoff unnecessary, gives him a solid platform to launch his 
reforms. 
But reformers have a scratchy record in Russia. Putin's 
predecessor, Boris Yeltsin, found it difficult to push through 
reforms despite success at the polls. 
Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's reforms in the mid-1980s 
at first raised high hopes among the population but eventually 
helped bring about his downfall. 
"Putin is a level-headed man who is aware of his mission. 
One cannot envy this mission," Gorbachev said. "Much will 
depend on how Putin evaluates the past, who he invites to join his 
team and what goals he sets." 
Another question mark over Putin is his lack of experience in 
public office, although he was for several years a senior aide in 
Russia's second city of St Petersburg. 
His 16 years as a KGB

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SubjectAP: Protests in US Sector of Kosovo


>Protests in U.S. Sector of Kosovo
>
>The Associated Press
>Sunday, March 26, 2000; 6:52 p.m. EST
>
>PRISTINA, Yugoslavia -- Hundreds of ethnic Albanians gathered at three
separate
>spots near the main U.S. Army base in Kosovo on Sunday to protest the
release of
>a suspect on murder and weapons smuggling charges.
>
>The protests over the release of Xhavit Hasani took place along Kosovo's
border
>with Macedonia, in the town of Urosevac and near the town of Kacanik, said
U.S.
>Army Sgt. First Class Ian Fitzgerald.
>
>The protest near the Djeneral Jankovic border crossing point began about at
>nightfall. Military police from the United States and troops from Greece
and
>Poland
>converged at the protest sites.
>
>The demonstrators objected to the release of Hasani, an ethnic Albanian
from
>Vitina
>who was transferred by NATO peacekeepers to the custody of U.N. police on
>Saturday. Police intended to extradite him to Macedonia to face murder
charges,
>though it is unclear whether he was actually sent to Macedonia.
>
>No injuries were reported.
>
>Ethnic Albanians in Vitina have complained that American soldiers have
harassed
>them, beating some suspected of violence and subjecting women to
inappropriate
>body searches. The allegations have prompted an official Army investigation
and
>threaten a breakdown in trust between the U.S. peacekeepers and the
citizens
>they
>were sent to protect.
>
>   Љ Copyright 2000 The Associated Press
>
>
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