Re: [CTRL] a stupid question 4 Kris I think..

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

It means "let the reader beware"

Or, in some foreign tongues "Hand over all your inflatable monkeys and no
one gets hurt"

> -Original Message-
> From: Herbert Hershel Henderson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 4:08 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] a stupid question 4 Kris I think..
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
>
>
>
> uh knock me stupid if you wish but what exactly does 'Caveat Lector'
> mean..
> I think I missed the post where you added this saying to the list because
> I've been on it for awhile and I remember when it was nowhere to be read.
>
> Thank You
> bye
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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

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Personally, I think you're both crazier that a pair of long tailed cats in a
room full of rocking chairs. What do you have to say to that?
> -Original Message-
> From: Prudence L. Kuhn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 2:59 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
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> In a message dated 2/11/99 11:15:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
>  Well, there is a solution to that one. . And the Republican party found
> it
> some years
>  ago. Hire actors to run for the presidential officeto be the front
> guys...to smile
>  pleasantly and look good while someone else runs the show >>
>
> Good one, snoOwl.  Prudy
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Re: [CTRL] Senate Vote

[Brown, Jeremy]

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Hail to the Chief!

Party tonight in the Lincoln Bedroom. All Interns welcome. Cigars will be
provided.

Big Macs and Cheetos for everyone!!


> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Richer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 1:03 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [CTRL] Senate Vote
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Dear Friends:
>   Just a few minutes ago President William Jefferson Clinton was
> acquited of all wrong doing!  Here is how the vote went.
>
> 1st Article
>
> Guilty  Not Guilt
> 45 55
>
>
> 2nd Article
>
> Guilty  Not Guilt
> 50 50
>
>In my opinion this is a very sad day in America!  To quote from FDR,
> "This
> day will live in infamy!"  For today we were not bombed by the Japanese or
> any
> other foreign power, but today we realize that our so called elected
> officials
> do not stand for truth but for some agenda that has not come to full light
> yet
> and that our media with their magical lying polls is part of this big lie!
> We
> in a sense have been bombed by lies and from those within our country whom
> we
> put our trust to govern us!  This is far worst than being bombed by a
> enemy
> from without!  May God have mercy on America!
>
> God Bless
> Bill
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Re: [CTRL] fw: Net Cleanup

[Brown, Jeremy]

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In addition, you must be wary of any viruses that result in the following

1) Turning your screen saver into screen captures from "Dream a Little
Dream"

2) Every time you sign off, your computer says "Dave...what are you
doing?my mind is goingI can feel itI can feel it"

3) Having your computer start running on "Windows 1895" where the monitor
must be lit with a kerosene lamp and all e-mail is conducted via the pony
express.

4) Your password is now "Joshua" and your computer continually asks "How
about a nice game of chess?"

5) Every time you try to play another round of  "Doom", you can only play
"Pong"

6) Your desktop theme is now the coveted "Menudo" theme.

Be on the lookout.

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Re: [CTRL] fw: Net Cleanup

[Brown, Jeremy]

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This is a warning to everyone using a computer!

On Thursday, February 18, your computers will explode.


Thank you.

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

SnoOwl, since you were the one person brave enough to respond, I'd
like to address each point you raised, openly and with no hostility.

Sno -
No sex--it gives you AIDS and it's immoral.

Me - I never said that. On the contrary, in a previous post, I condoned
sexual activity. It's known to be a great cardiovascular workout. I
recommend it to heart attack survivors quite often!

  Sno-
No cigarettes--take Prozac--or heroin--or crack cocaine if your
nerves aren't mellow.

Me - I think if your nerves aren't mellow, there are far better ways to
control that than with chemicals of any kind.

Sno-
No food--at least no goodies, it too will kill you, or if you live,
make folks laugh at you.

Me - I'm not saying that you can't enjoy a little junk food here and there,
or even a little more. The key is moderation. Something our President does
not practice.

  Sno-
But beer and wine--they get labels telling you the stuff is GOOD for
you!!

Me - A moderate amount of alcohol, perhaps one beer or one glass of wine a
day, can be good for you. It soothes the nerves and relaxes the arteries,
making the flowing of blood easier. Again, it's all about moderation.

  Sno-
And Canola Oil--which isn't fit for human consumption--but Gore
lobbies for it.
And Aspartame--to keep your waist in line with neurotoxins..
And all that Monsanto soy bean stuff...which is controversial, too.

Me - I totally agree with you here. All that stuff is crap and does way more
harm than good. I don't buy into any of that nonsense. I know that one can
live a 100% healthy existence without ever touching any of the above
products.

 Sno-
Oh, boy.Now we gotta get rid of the President because some
folks think the guy is
too fat?? The world has truly gone mad.


Me -  No no no, SnoOwl. That isn't what I meant at all. I don't think we
need to get rid of Clinton for being fat! I just think that it might be in
his best interests if he took a few less trips to the cookie jar. Physical
health is, to me, a very important thing. And he really takes TERRIBLE care
of himself. A fact that I think was quite evident during his State of the
Union address. He looked terribly flushed and winded. I know the guy has a
lot on his mind, but I think that if he set a better example, we could begin
to set a greater standard of physical fitness in this country.

Thank for your reply. I mean that sincerely as it's very frustrating to post
and be ignored.

JB

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Re: [CTRL] CTRL Conspiracy

[Brown, Jeremy]

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You know, you're right! Everybody on this list is blind to the truth! They
have to all wake up and smell what they are shoveling! Let's start a new
exchange of information. Right here, right now! I propose the following
changes to the list:

1) Instead of "Caveat Lector", the list's new motto will be "Oompa Loompa
Loompidy Dee"
2) Anyone who contributes to the more than 10 times a month, now receives
the honorary title of "Cap'n"
3) All references to belly-button lint be encrypted.
4) Any conspiracies involving former tennis star Billie Jean King should be
immediately discounted
5) Discussions of the career of Leif Garret must be kept to a minimum
6) E-mails can not be sent unless the sender is dressed as a chicken
7) References to airsick donkeys must be treated reverentially
8) If you have beaten an Avon lady to death with her own makeup kit...we
want you!!!
9) If you have had phone sex with you loved one, only to find out that the
person on the other end was former jazz great Azar Lawrence, don't come
crying to us!
10) Projectile vomiting onto girl scouts is grounds for immediate dismissal
from the list. Punishment will be no less severe even if you only vomit into
their cookies.

Thank you

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

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You know, I posted this before, and everyone was too high and mighty to
respond, so I'll have another go. We need to focus on this man's health for
Christ's sake! He is so overweight for a man his age and height that it's
frightening to watch! He's the reason that so many people in this country
are fat pigs! They see this chipwich munching rube microwaving another
tortilla with cheese or frying up a second helping of onion rings and they
say "Hey, if it's good enough for the Chief, why can't I do it?" I'm serious
here. This man has got to lose weight and get in shape. He is so doughy and
flabby that I bet if you poked his belly he'd giggle! Let's get him on the
Stairmaster, then some cardio, maybe some crunches for the abs, pushups to
flatten out those monstrous man-breasts, no more jogging five feet for the
press and then ducking into Arby's for a rib platter. Cut out the snacks,
the chocolates, the beer. Get healthy! I know you think I'm just goofing on
the guy, but I'm serious. The country's physical condition is as vital an
issue as anything else! I mean, we laud this guy as a great leader, but if
he can't even control his own eating habits, what good is he?

> -Original Message-
> From: Prudence L. Kuhn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:19 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 2/9/99 10:55:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
>  What past presidents did DOES NOT MATTER...what matters is what we do
>  about the slimeball currently in office. >>
>
> Great.  You don't seem to mind the slimeballs in Congress.  Is it just the
> president  whom you hold to this higher standard..?  Prudy
>
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Re: [CTRL] FW: APE: Republicans let Clinton off the hook

[Brown, Jeremy]

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Who cares about his politics? Let's take a look at the man's health for a
moment! He's lugging around that massive paunch, and his suits look like
they're about a size too tight. Did you see him at the State of the Union
address? He is so pasty and bloated I thought he was going to collapse right
there! His face was all flushed and blotchy, his skin tone is pure gray and
his hair was pasted to his head in sweaty clumps. I could hear the blood
straining through the clogged arteries. We are looking at a prime candidate
for angioplasty. He's got to lay off the McDonald's breakfast burritos and
French fries, lock up the Fritos, ixnay on the Pepsi Big Slams, no more Ring
Dings and Ho Hos, hold the fried okra, cancel the cheeseburger deluxes, and,
for God's sake STOP SCARFING THE DAMN PORK RINDS!!! Otherwise the GOP won't
have to vote him out, his viscous fat will just seal off his heart like
cement. Maybe he should keep banging interns. At least he'll get some cardio
into his day.

> -Original Message-
> From: Samatha 'Smith' [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 11:21 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 99-02-10 07:13:51 EST, you write:
>
> > >But the Republicans have always been skittish about exposing the
> >  >dirtiest of Mr Clinton's dirty linen, lest their own (lesser)
> >  >indiscretions come to light. There is a Washington etiquette in these
> >  >matters, or put another way: they, too, are "mobbed up". That is why,
> I
> >  >believe, they backed away from probing whether Mr Clinton knowingly
> >  >solicited laundered campaign funds from Chinese military intelligence
> in
> >  >exchange for restricted missile technology.
>
> Is there ANY crime Clinton has not yet been accused of?  Didn't Fred
> Thompson, R-Tn, chair a committee that examined these allegations?
>
> We do have an "innocent until proven guilty" standard..remember
> that
> little ol' thing?  As I understand it, Dick Thornburgh frustrated Walsh's
> investigation into the arms for hostages deal by classifying material to
> keep
> it out of Walsh's hands.  I wasn't on this list during the Walsh
> investigation
> (if it even existed then) but I do hope  you fine people were squealing
> and
> squawking this loudly then!
>
> This constant squealing of alarm about all the things Clinton is
> alleged
> to have done reminds me of a saying I came across on the internet once
> .(paraphrased)..."If a reliable source puts forth wild allegations,
> one
> may pause to listen.   If a wild source puts forth substantiated
> allegations,
> one may pause to listen.  If a wild source puts forth wild allegations --
> watch out!"
>
> There are many things I suspect Reagan and Bush got away with.  But I
> would fully expect anyone to challenge me with "Prove it!" if I were to
> list
> my suspicions as FACT day after day.
>
> So, this is what I have to say to you, "PROVE IT!"  Prove it in a
> court of
> law!  Prove it during in a hearing!  Prove it in an impeachment trial!  If
> you
> can't prove it, stop asserting these allegations as fact.  Or better yet,
> just
> shaddup already!
>
> Samantha
>
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Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

I think that if someone goes out and puts a needle on a seat or anything
similar, they already had the inclination to do so. Movies, e-mails, TV,
what have you are not responsible for the actions of crazy people. Perhaps
they sometimes play a role in their behavior, like John Hinckley and his
"Taxi Driver" thing, but I think that the idea that a normally sane person
could be driven to insanity by entertainment a pretty far stretch.

> -Original Message-
> From: kimberly smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 3:11 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> John Szocik wrote:
>
> >  -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > True enough! However, if some sicko didn't think ofthis before, the idea
> is
> > now out there for some sick bastard to go ahead and try it out.
> > People should really think before they dream-up crap like this and then
> put it
> > on the net.
> > JOHN
> >
>
>   So, if this comes to pass, then the responsibility lies w/ the
> person who
> started this??  Most (sick bastards, serial killers) have an I.Q. of
> above
> average, if not genius level
>and reallywouldn't need help in this matter...my humble
> opinion...barley
>
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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

After reading your post, I am now thoroughly convinced that you are a bona
fide mentalcase.  You mention that I failed to properly word what I wrote.
Perhaps it is you who should admit that you failed to understand what I
wrote! The debate was about the president's infidelity, and the first thing
you jump on is what? The actions in question and how they relate to my sex
life! What's the deal with that? It's not my fault if you are unable to
infer what I meant. I notice no one else had that problem. Only you. So
don't try to play it off now that I'm the one at fault here. You tried to
have a cheap laugh at my expense and it backfired. Admit it and let's be
done with it.

JB

P.S. Touché on the naivete thing. Although I don't think I embarrassed
myself at all, I'll be sure to check and re-check next time I fire a
response off.

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

So what, Mr.Brown, is the above statement meant to mean. My so
called
'cheap shot' was
at your naivety and obvious lack of experience in life if you
believe
that the things you listed are abnormal!!

Oh my GOD! Tell me you aren't really this dense! How many times do I have to
explain this? OK, let's do this piece by piece. First up, I assume you are
asking a question with that first sentence. However, since you don't seem to
know how to use a question mark, it must remain an assumption. I will
respond in kind, nonetheless. The above statement was meant to address the
fact that our president engaged in various and sundry sexual acts with
someone who is NOT HIS WIFE!!! Again, I'll say it...WHAT HE DID IS
IRRELEVANT! I don't think anything that he did is abnormal! Just the fact
that the other participant wasn't his wife. For you to turn it around into
some sort of pre-pubescent gigglefest about my sex life just shows me how
truly boneheaded you really are.

JB

P.S. Before you try and shoot me down by calling me naiveLEARN HOW TO
SPELL

N-A-I-V-E-T-E

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

" Have to agree with you there Pru. I don't know about JBrown, but
where i
> come from Oral sex and mutual masturbation is not exactly Bestiality or
> Incest!!"
>
You see, it's this type of slow-wittedness that keeps this
discussion from reaching a logical end. The fact that you cannot grasp the
point I was trying to make is painfully evident in your cheap shot at me.
Let me try to explain this to you. WHAT the president did is neither here
nor there. WHO he did it with is the issue. Did that totally go over your
head? Hey, I wouldn't even care if he got into bestiality, as you so wittily
stated. That's his own business. The fact that he got involved with an
EMPLOYEE of his who is HALF HIS AGE is disturbing. Please, let's keep this
discussion on the right track.

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Prudence,

  Since you responded to this message a total of three separate times, I
assume you must really  want to jump on the bandwagon! In that case, I pose
to you the same question I posed to Samantha. How is bashing Reagan in
defense of Clinton turnabout Reagan has nothing to do with it! To
correctly apply the term "turnabout is fair play" in this case, you would
have to start in on Ken Starr. Check your facts, people!

JB

> -Original Message-
> From: Prudence L. Kuhn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 3:52 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 2/8/99 2:04:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>
> << Jokes about Clinton's private parts, Hillary's sexual preference
> and
>  Chelsea's looks are in poor taste.  Jokes about Reagan's illness are also
> in
>  poor taste.  And, last I heard, turn-about is STILL fair play.
>
>  Samantha >>
>
>
> You're absolutely right, Samantha.  Prudy
>
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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Prudence,

   How you construed "sex crazed" to infer that Clinton has sex often is
somewhat baffling. Allow me to explain. Clinton has engaged in oral sex,
mutual masturbation, phone sex, proposed sodomy and used a cigar as a dildo.
All with a woman half his age and not his wife. I think this qualifies as a
case of thinking a bit too much with the old mushroom pole, if you catch my
meaning. It has nothing to do with how much sex he is having. As far as my
definition of normal, I can safely say one thing: None of the above
qualifies.

JB

> -Original Message-
> From: Prudence L. Kuhn [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 3:37 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog
>
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>
> In a message dated 2/8/99 11:47:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Only an idiot like you would think that Clinton's
>  sexually crazed behavior  >>
>
> Sexually crazed?  Give me a break.  Poor old Clinton is lucky if he ever
> gets
> any.  What's your idea of normal?  Prudy
>
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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Samantha,

   You asked if I am concerned with the sexual dalliances of Gingrich and
all those other windbags. My answer is no. I couldn't care one bit about the
sexual affairs of anyone, much less any of those capitol hill fatcats. I
don't care that much for Clinton in general. I'm not a particularly
political person. If any of them want to bone their secretaries, their
mothers or their dogs, more power to them. As long as the country keeps
chugging along, who gives a damn what they do? You say that turnabout is
fair play, but how is bashing a sick old man who has nothing to do with
Clinton fair play? I would say that in this instance a proper case of
turnabout would be in the form of attacks on Ken Starr.

JB

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Samantha,

   Actually, I couldn't care less about the joke in question. No offense to
the sender, but it was kind of lame! I also couldn't care less about the
Clinton situation or any related jokes. In addition, I don't care about
Reagan that much. I just think that Alzheimer's is a terrible illness that
robs a family of a loved one and robs that person of their dignity and
cracking jokes about it is in poor taste. Your argument about the mental
capacity of the leader of the free world holds no weight whatsoever as
Reagan became ill more than a half-decade after leaving office. Plus, if you
are so concerned about the mental health of your president, shouldn't you
examine the fact that Clinton can't keep his pants on for more than 2
minutes at a stretch? And if we're going to use big words, dear, consensual
is spelled C-O-N-S-E-N-S-U-A-L.

JB

P.S. Bon-bon - A candy that often has a center of fruit, fondue or nuts and
is coated with chocolate.

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Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

That's pretty funny to goof on people with Alzheimer's. You're really a
witty person, Samantha. Only an idiot like you would think that Clinton's
sexually crazed behavior is in any way comparable to someone suffering from
a disease. Let me clue you in, you DOLT. A person who has Alzheimer's? IT
ISN'T THEIR FAULT! Clinton could have exhibited some self control and kept
it in his pants. Reagan, regardless of what you think of his politics,
couldn't help getting sick. But, to someone with an IQ as low as yours must
be, it doesn't make a difference, right? Just hit below the belt and damn
all the rest. What's next? Some handicapped jokes, or should we get right
into the racist humor? Unless you have something intelligent to bring to the
table, I suggest you shut up and go back to eating bon-bons on the couch
while watching "Rosie O'Donnell".

> -Original Message-
> From: Samatha 'Smith' [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 11:10 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] FW: A Man and His Frog
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 99-02-07 19:00:57 EST, you write:
>
> > With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous 15-year old girl.
> >
> >  "And that, your honor, is how the girl ended up in my room so help me
> >  God or my name is not William Jefferson Clinton."
> >
>
> I'd rather have a sexually active man in the WH than a man with
> alzheimer's.  And, as long as it is acceptable to viciously bash
> Presidents on
> this list, anyone have any good DROOL and DIAPER jokes?
> Samantha
>
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Re: [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Yes, and when she got home from the movies, she had a cocktail and woke up
in a tub full of ice. Someone had written on the mirror "Call 911" in
lipstick. When she called, they found out that one of her kidneys was
stolen! She drove to the hospital to get help, but on the way she flashed
her lights at a car, which turned out to be a signal to roving gangs who
then shot her to death. It actually was a good thing since in her back seat
was a man with an axe. A gas station attendant tried to warn her, but she
didn't pay attention. I think this can all be traced back to that
unfortunate incident in high school with the frozen hot dog. Or perhaps the
incident with her cat, the tuna fish and her strange desires. Or even the
time that her parents washed her hair with honey and maggots burrowed into
her scalp. Or maybe..

> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Britton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 7:55 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [CTRL] You're NOT going to believe this!!!
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> This was sent to me, and I know it is not impossible.  When I was a young
> girl, they were doing similar things with needles, only it was to drug the
> girls and take them away for prostitution in hiding...so this could be
> possible.
>
>
> << I thought that I would pass this message along ...
>  THIS MESSAGE CAME FROM A VERY RELIABLE SOURCE AND I FEEL COMPELLED TO
> PASS
> IT ON TO YOU.
>
>  (Forward to EVERYONE) INCIDENT  AT THE MOVIE THEATER
>
>  GOING TO A MOVIE PLEASE CHECK YOUR CHAIRS WHEN GOING TO THE MOVIE
> THEATERS An incident occurred when a friends CO-worker went to sit in
> a
> chair and something was poking her. She got up and found that it was a
> needle with a little note at the end. It said "Welcome to the real world,
> you're "HIV POSITIVE". Doctors tested the needle and it was "HIV
>  POSITIVE" Be cautious when going to the movies...Please check and one
>  the safest ways to check is moving the seat part way up & down a few
>  times and REALLY LOOK!!! but NOT sticking your hands between the seats.
>  Most of us plop down in the seats.
>
>  The following information was E-mailed to all employees of the Metro
>  Police Dept. this morning 11/3/98. Pay telephones drug users are now
>  taking their used needles and putting them into the coin return slots in
>  public telephones.  People are putting their fingers in to recover coin
>  or just to check if anyone left change. They are getting stuck by these
>  needles and infected with hepatitis, HIV and other diseases. This
>  message is posted to make everyone aware of this danger. Be aware!!!
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Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

MJ,

   It appears that, in an attempt to get to the bottom of this, we have
painted ourselves into a corner. This is the old "fire in a crowded theater"
argument. Having to choose which freedoms are scared and which are not.  And
I see your point, I really do. I'm not looking to get into some kind of
battle of wits with you (I know, because I'm unarmed. I'll save you the
trouble). I'll say this until I'm blue in the face, though. Driving drunk is
a proven killer. A drunk driver took the life of a close friend, so I know
all about it. Perhaps that's why I'm so heated up on the issue. Either way,
I'm not saying anything about the government, or executions, or internment
camps or anything of the sort. You brought that into the discussion. What I
am saying is that steps should be taken to PREVENT drunk driving. Education,
contracts for life, things like that. I'm not afraid of freedom, for the
last time. I AM afraid of dying, especially such a wasted and pointless
death as being run down by Joe Jock coming home from the Mellow Tiger after
a real bender.

JB

> -Original Message-
> From: M. A. Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 4:16 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Jeremy Brown:
>  You say that I'm afraid of freedom, however you have produced nothing
>  to support that claim.
> MJ:
> Criminalizing driving while drunk infringes upon one's freedom to do
> such.  While it may not be SMART to participate in such an action, if
> *I* were to become 'shit-faced' and drive home without incident and
> keeping it between the lines ... HOW have *I* infringed upon *YOUR*
> property (life and its corolaries)?
>
> Again, why are you afraid of freedom?
>
>
> Jeremy Brown:
>  What I am afraid of is that more people, like my friend, will die
> because
>  we all sit by plucking daisies and turning our heads to something we
>  can work together to prevent.
> MJ:
> 'Drunk driving' has been criminalized for many years.  Has it prevented
> people from their own stupidity?  What of those people who lack the
> ability to have a license (or their abilities have deteriorated) -- why do
> we not FINE them or criminalize THEIR actions?  What of those exhausted
> persons who exhibit LIKE characteristics of SOME intoxicated drivers?
>
>
>
> Jeremy Brown:
>  Also, you have said that a potential is not a crime. You're right,
> but..(this
>  may shock you)...DRUNK DRIVING IS  It's illegal!
> MJ:
> So are many items which should NOT.   Drunk driving like many 'crimes'
> serve to raise revenue for the State.
>
>  What is your point.
>
> Jeremy Brown:
> You can't even have an open container in the car with you. That's the
> issue. And, again, I'll try and explain it to you in simple terms. I
> agree
> that if what you do does not harm anyone but yourself, by all means
> do it until you drop dead. That was not what I am saying. I'm saying
> that when your actions have negative impacts on those around you
> it becomes a problem.
> MJ:
> ALL of your actions could be construed to impact those around you.
> Should we do as Frosty and all live in his Authoritarian padded world
> where we might be able to breathe without instruction from another?
>
>
> Jeremy Brown:
> So please, everybody...stop thinking that I'm challenging freedom. I'm
> not!
> MJ:
> But you most certainly ARE.  *You* believe drunk driving is wrong ... so
> you seek the Government's legalized use of FORCE to penalize others
> who seek the Freedom to decide for themselves.
>
>
> Jeremy Brown:
>  I'm only saying that there have been far to many good people cut
>  down by drunk drivers. Something needs to be done.
> MJ:
> Why not simply EXECUTE those persons who 'kill' other persons?
>
>
>
> Jeremy Brown:
>  And, MJ, for you to even use the term "discrimination" in the same
>  sentence as drunk driving is downright offensive.
> MJ:
> The FACT that Joe would be fined for 'blowing a 1.0 BAL' if stopped
> in a road block where Stan would be allowed to go through (even though
> he had not slept in 72 hours) is discriminatory.   This is based upon
> arbitrary whim and NOT on ability or lack therof.
>
> That you refuse to see this reality is another matter.
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are
> willing to give it to others. -- William Allen White October 24, 1940
>
> We see that as soon as we surrender the principle that the state should
> not interfere in any question touching on the individual's mode of life,
> we end by regulating and restricting the latter down to the smallest
> detail. The personal freedom of the individual is abrogated. He becomes
> a slave of the community, bound to obey the dictates of the majority.
> It is hardly necessary to expatiate on the ways in which such power
> could be abused by malevolent persons in authorit

Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

MJ,

   I admit I'm quite puzzled by your post. You say that I'm afraid of
freedom, however you have produced nothing to support that claim. What I am
afraid of is that more people, like my friend, will die because we all sit
by plucking daisies and turning our heads to something we can work together
to prevent. Also, you have said that a potential is not a crime. You're
right, but..(this may shock you)...DRUNK DRIVING IS  It's illegal! You
can't even have an open container in the car with you. That's the issue.
And, again, I'll try and explain it to you in simple terms. I agree that if
what you do does not harm anyone but yourself, by all means do it until you
drop dead. That was not what I am saying. I'm saying that when your actions
have negative impacts on those around you it becomes a problem. So please,
everybody...stop thinking that I'm challenging freedom. I'm not! I'm only
saying that there have been far to many good people cut down by drunk
drivers. Something needs to be done. And, MJ, for you to even use the term
"discrimination" in the same sentence as drunk driving is downright
offensive.

Jeremy


> -Original Message-
>
> From: M. A. Johnson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:20 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Brown, Jeremy wrote:
>  The issue I was raising was that once you get behind the wheel of a
> car,
>   you have now brought people into the equation who did not ask to be
> a
>   part of your choices or actions.
>
> MJ:
> When ANYONE gets in a car they *COULD* kill others -- whether they
> are drunk, drugged, LACK ABILITY, EXHAUSTED or otherwise.
> A potential is NOT a crime.
>
> Why the FEAR of freedom?
>
>
> Brown, Jeremy wrote:
>  I never EVER said that the government could or should be able to
>  dictate what we as individuals choose to do or not do.
>
> MJ:
> You JUST did above by supporting 'drunk driving' discrimination.
>
>
> ANY crime which does NOT involve the violation of another's property
> *IS* merely an exercise in control, serves to provide legislated advantage
> to one or more persons and/or a revenue source for the State.
>
>
> Regard$,
> --MJ
>
> Thieves respect property. They merely wish the property to become their
> property that they may more perfectly respect it. -- G. K. Chesterton
>
> Government has no other end but the preservation of Property.
>  -- John Locke
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Re: [CTRL] [prj] DOPE SUPPORTERS

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Nessie,

   I agree with you on the fact that no one should be able to dictate what
goes into, out of or anywhere near our bodies.  I never said otherwise. The
point I am trying (in vain, it would appear) to make is that there are
people in the world who think nothing of starting the day by smoking a rock
of crack and then driving a school bus. People like this need to be
controlled, restrained, corralled, what have you. I couldn't care less if
they want to sit at home and smoke dust until their brain dries out. BUT,
the minute their actions affect the lives of me or my loved ones, then I
start to care.  We can't keep turning a blind eye to issues like this under
the guise that we are protecting freedom. If we do, it's only a matter of
time before the people we've allowed to roam free on our highways and
backroads find us or someone we love, and, in exchange for the limitless
freedom we bestowed upon them, take the most basic freedom we have.

Sincerely,

Jeremy Brown





> -Original Message-
> From: nessie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 1:07 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [prj] DOPE SUPPORTERS
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> The issue is who owns your body, you or the government.
>
> When somebody else, not yourself,  decides what goes into your body and
> what does not go into your body, that is precisely and exactly the same
> thing as rape.
>
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Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Ed, I think you were too busy nailing together your soapbox to pay attention
to what I wrote and you missed my point entirely. I agree that you have the
right to do whatever you want to your body, and nowhere in my post did I
challenge that.  The issue I was raising was that once you get behind the
wheel of a car, you have now brought people into the equation who did not
ask to be a part of your choices or actions.  That's when it becomes less an
issue of freedom than an issue of public safety, something that should be
monitored and protected. I never EVER said that the government could or
should be able to dictate what we as individuals choose to do or not do. And
I think if you had actually read and comprehended what I said, instead of
seeing it as a means for you to drape yourself in the American flag shout
about how the government is seeking to control you, you would have seen that
for yourself.

In the future, perhaps it is you who should apply a little common sense.

JB

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Moore [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 1:26 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] **DOPE SUPPORTERS**
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> If I want to go to the hardware store, pick up a can of gold spray paint,
> bring it home and spray it into a bag and inhale..THAT'S MY RIGHT!!!  I
> would be incredibly stupid, but it's still my right to do to my body what
> I
> want to do.  If I get all screwed up on paint fumes and get into a car..my
> rights end because my "choice" would jeopardize other innocent people. Do
> you understand about "freedom of choice"?  People have to and should be
> held
> accountable for their own actions if their actions interfere with other
> people's rights, privacy and lifestyles.  If my actions don't effect
> anyone
> but myself, and I practice my choices in the privacy of my own home, then
> nobody, especially the hypocritical government, has any right to tell me
> what I can and cannot do to my own body...PERIOD!
>
> The War on Drugs is about MONEY and CONTROL!!!  Alcohol, Pharmaceutical
> Poison and Tobacco are alright but smoking a dried out plant isn't?  The
> War
> on Drugs is a fraud and people are finally seeing that by the results of
> the
> Medical Marijuana initiatives.  Use common sense and see this issue for
> what
> it is and support freedom of choice!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brown, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >I have to jump on this one here. I think that punishing someone for the
> >potential to do wrong, in a case such as this, IS the right thing to do.
> >You mentioned that you may go out and kill someone because you feel like
> it
> >(hypothetically, of course).  I think, based on that rationale, that you
> >should be restrained.  If a person displays homicidal tendencies, as well
> as
> >an inability to understand the ramifications of their actions, then they
> >should indeed be kept under some sort of lock and key.  If you drink,
> your
> >judgement is impaired, right? You are no longer able to understand or
> fully
> >comprehend your actions or the consequences thereof. You get behind the
> >wheel of a car, a very dangerous piece of machinery, and you are running
> the
> >very high risk of killing or hurting yourself and (worse) other people.
> You
> >wouldn't let a crazy person walk through a shopping mall  with a loaded
> >pistol, correct? Yet, we see nothing wrong with letting hundreds of
> weekend
> >warriors out and about with their mental faculties no less hampered with
> a
> >far more dangerous and destructive piece of equipment at their
> fingertips.
> >Drunk drivers are a danger and a menace. If we could nip the problem at
> its
> >source, perhaps alot of lives that have already been lost (a very good
> >friend of mine's among them), could have been spared.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Teo One Thousand [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:27 AM
> >> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS
> >>
> >>  -Caveat Lector-
> >>
> >> It is hard to follow your schizophrenic posts, with talk back and forth
> on
> >> the
> >> issue, but I will respond thus.  Driving while intoxicated is a choice
> you
> >> make, there are consequences for that choice, that you MAY hurt
> someone.
> >> I

Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

I have to jump on this one here. I think that punishing someone for the
potential to do wrong, in a case such as this, IS the right thing to do.
You mentioned that you may go out and kill someone because you feel like it
(hypothetically, of course).  I think, based on that rationale, that you
should be restrained.  If a person displays homicidal tendencies, as well as
an inability to understand the ramifications of their actions, then they
should indeed be kept under some sort of lock and key.  If you drink, your
judgement is impaired, right? You are no longer able to understand or fully
comprehend your actions or the consequences thereof. You get behind the
wheel of a car, a very dangerous piece of machinery, and you are running the
very high risk of killing or hurting yourself and (worse) other people.  You
wouldn't let a crazy person walk through a shopping mall  with a loaded
pistol, correct? Yet, we see nothing wrong with letting hundreds of weekend
warriors out and about with their mental faculties no less hampered with a
far more dangerous and destructive piece of equipment at their fingertips.
Drunk drivers are a danger and a menace. If we could nip the problem at its
source, perhaps alot of lives that have already been lost (a very good
friend of mine's among them), could have been spared.

> -Original Message-
> From: Teo One Thousand [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:27 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] DOPE SUPPORTERS
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> It is hard to follow your schizophrenic posts, with talk back and forth on
> the
> issue, but I will respond thus.  Driving while intoxicated is a choice you
> make, there are consequences for that choice, that you MAY hurt someone.
> I
> may go out and kill someone today just cause I feel like it, does that
> mean I
> should be restrained in my house simply for that reason?  I am not
> defending
> ones right to drive drunk, because I don't want to be killed by a drunk
> driver
> any more than you do, but it is still a penalizing of POTENTIAL wrong
> which is
> nowhere supported in our system of law.
> Drugs have been assailed for years at a tremendous cost and what do we
> have
> now, more people on drugs and a worse situation.  At the least stop the
> insanity of a huge military expenditure (against the Posse Comitatus
> anyway)
> to combat this and do something else.  The answer does not necessarily
> have to
> be legalization, but what we have now is crap, period.
> As for registering and living in areas free from "perverts" well, that is
> something that others have tried to no good end.  Since under your scheme
> whatever goes against my grain is "perverted" I should have the right to
> be
> free from all of the nefarious influences.
> I suspect you were being somewhat facetious?
> Teo1000
>
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Re: [CTRL] Operation Garden Plot 2//FEMA//Alien Armageddon Center s

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Is it me or does this whole thing sound like it was lifted directly from the
plot of last summer's "X-files" movie? I'm not saying that there may not be
something to this, it just seems like every time we here about this stuff
its in the form of "RUN FOR THE HILLS, FEMA IS COMING THEY'RE GOING TO
HYPNOTIZE YOU ALL AND MAKE YOU MENUDO FANS!!!".  Instead of shouting to the
heavens and wanton saber-rattling, can anyone offer some real hard evidence
that this stuff is really happening? I hate to sound like a naysayer,
because I really do believe in the search for the truth, and I admire all
those who seek it. I just wish that there was some tangible evidence at
hand.

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Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

You know, this whole thing takes me back to the time when I wrote "A Tale of
Two Cities". It took quite a while to finish it, though, as I was busy with
the Polio vaccine at the same time, as well as having just returned from
walking on the moon.  Of course, none of this compares to the work I had to
do on "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band". That George Martin is a real
douchebag.  Well, I'd love to keep talking about this, but I have to go and
accept my Oscar for directing "Saving Private Ryan" and my emmy for my
writing on "Frasier".

Richard

> -Original Message-
> From: MARK [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 12:49 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Wrong, wrong, wrong,  Again you are falsely claiming credit for which
> you should not.  The leaflet "A Nation Under Threat" was in fact written
> by my Good Friend, Alison Stalegrey, and I am sure she will have no
> reason not to begin proceedings for you claiming her work as your own,
> (As you did with Francis Dunnery's excellent paper "Anti-Statism - more
> than a state of mind" back in 1993).
>
> I do not wish to get into a personal battle on this list, however, if
> you continue to claim the hard work of others as that of your own,
> measures will have to be taken.
>
> M.A.R.K.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 02 February 1999 16:30
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order
> >
> >  -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > M.A.R.K. again, in your desperation to make me look foolish, you trip
> > and fall upon your own dagger.
> > It was me  who wrote the 1992 leaflet 'A Nation Under Threat', me who
> > published it and me who distributed it.
> >
> > Please can you add something to the discussion, not try and take stuff
> > away.
> >
> > Richard B.
> >
> > MARK wrote:
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > >Richard, how dare you claim these thoughts as your own, when they
> > were
> > >published in the Anti-Fascist leaflet "A Nation Under Threat"  freely
> > >available in the Tower Hamlets area since the BNP's horrendous
> > increase
> > >in public awarenss.
> > >
> > >I agree unequivocally with these thoughts, however, how DARE YOU
> > claim
> > >them as your own.  You are a Charlatan and a Fraud.
> > >
> > >M.A.R.K.
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >> Sent: 02 February 1999 14:13
> > >> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order
> > >>
> > >>  -Caveat Lector-
> > >>
> > >> What i find most interesting with this current debate is the
> > distinct
> > >> lack of knowledge being displayed across the CTRL community. In
> > >> particular
> > >> regarding the rise of fascism in Britain (i know for sure we have a
> > >> large
> > >> number of UK members on this list including the outspoken M.A.R.K.
> > >> (psuedonym)). I beg of you all to read my comments (particularly
> > >> Teo1000, flw, J2
> > >> and Alamaine).
> > >>
> > >> With the re-emergence of Fascist and far-right parties throughout
> > >> Europe
> > >> and America, especially during the 1980's, we have been alerted to
> > the
> > >> presence
> > >> of Racist and Fascist beliefs in our own country. In September
> > 1993,
> > >> Derek Beackon of the Nazi British National Party was elected to a
> > >> council seat
> > >> in
> > >> East London. Despite being defeated at the next election, he
> > increased
> > >> his vote by a third. It would be a mistake to think of Neo-Fascists
> > as
> > >> a
> > >> bunch of
> > >> skinhead thugs picking on ethnic groups that they see as lower than
> > >> then
> > >> on the social ladder. The traditional stereotype of Nazi 'thugs'
> > does
> > >> hold
> > >> true for
> > >> the majority, but their actions are often organised and directed by
> > >> small
> > >> cliques of, intelligent and systematic individuals. The Neo-Nazi
> > >> revival
> > >> is not just a
> > >> mish-mash of 'fascist filth' and 'racist scum' (ANL newsletter,
> > 1996),
> > >> but a highly organised and well orchestrated attempt to sway
> > majority
> > >> opinion (take note Teo1000).
> > >>
> > >> How do Neo-Fascist organisations attempt to win over the public in
> > a
> > >> Britain that is greatly opposed to them? Firstly, and most
> > >> importantly, by not
> > >> appearing to be Nazi in origin (unlike M.A.R.Ks ridiculous
> > suggestion
> > >> last week!!). In 1967, in a letter to William Pierce of the
> > American
> > >> Nazi
> > >> Party, John Tyndall, then leader of the National Front said that:
> > >> "The NF could not be openly Nazi because it would be stuck in the
> > mire
> > >> of
> > >> the Second World War and the death camps". He went on to say how he
> > >> had
> > >> not abandoned his faith in Hitler or the Swastika, but the British
> > >>

Re: [CTRL] Choose a Leader

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

I like to buy Avon products, urinate in them and then resell them to
underprivileged immigrants from the Ukraine. This is how I supplement my
income in order to put myself through Goatherding School.

> -Original Message-
> From: Source - Richard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:00 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Choose a Leader
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> I like urinating on the Avon lady. Does this mean i have Nazi tendencies??
>
> MARK wrote:
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >Avon Brown  Not Eva Braun?
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: 28 January 1999 07:07
> >> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Choose a Leader
> >>
> >>  -Caveat Lector-
> >>
> >> Although I don't believe in white-supremacism Hitler was a great
> >> leader. He
> >> took an in debt, no-army, depression-ridden country and turned it into
> >> a
> >> superpower. If he would drop the whole Aryan stuff I would vote for
> >> him.
> >>
> >> PS: Hitler had an illicit affair with his niece. He enjoyed urinated
> >> on her.
> >> Her name was Avon Brown, research it. If you don't believe me.
> >>
> >> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> >> ==
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> >> propagandic
> >> screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
> >> matters
> >> and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
> >> outright
> >> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> >> effects
> >> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said,
> >> CTRL
> >> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
> >> readers;
> >> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial
> >> and
> >> nazi's need not apply.
> >>
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> >> ==
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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Hey lady,

  If I were you, I'd stop worrying about my age and start showing some
concern for your mental status. Are you such a dolt that you actually think
that what I wrote contains any profanity whatsoever? What are you stuck in
the 50s? No wonder your daughter is hanging out with a bunch of teenage
hoods. She probably got fed up with your Susie Homemaker, suburban
house-drone, grey, colorless and BLAND way of thinking. At least she can
have some fun during the day. You have GOT to be the stupidest woman to ever
get on a computer!  And you have the gall to attack my intelligence. I
composed a lucid argument about Larry Flynt and Jerry the Cowardly Dogboy
called ME a neonazi! So I fire off a reply defending myself and you attack
ME? What are you, insane? Someone calls me a nazi and you think I'm the one
who has to dust my brain off. You're sick, you know that? You're a sick
person who has no clue how to relate to people. Perhaps you should dust off
your brain and your dated mentality. Don't try to mix it up with me, lady.
You have no idea what you're even talking about! Just stay inside your shell
and watch reruns of Donna Reed.

> --
> From: Linda Minor[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Friday, January 15, 1999 12:51 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Jeremy,
> Out of curiosity, just how old are you?  You talk just like the teenagers
> my
> daughter hangs out with.  If you want any credibility, you really need to
> clean up your mouth.  It wouldn't hurt to dust off your brain a bit as
> well.
>
> Linda
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brown, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >Jerry,
> >
> >You're such a freak. I bet if you stared me down face to face you
> wouldn't
> >be half as bold as you are over e-mail. What gives you the power to
> >determine if I'm a neonazi or not? Because I have an opinon that differs
> >from yours? I think that makes you more of a nazi than I ever will be.
> And
> I
> >know you're a total pussy because the last time I challenged you on this
> >list, you backed down like a whipped dog! Keep your facile and juvenile
> >opinions to yourself, unless you're enough of a man to back them up.
> >
> >JB
> >
> >
> >
> >> --
> >> From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 5:06 PM
> >> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
> >>
> >>  -Caveat Lector-
> >>
> >> In a message dated 1/14/99 10:59:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >  Larry Flynt is a mushmouthed cripple
> >>
> >> The neonazis just can't help themselves.
> >>
> >> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> >> ==
> >> CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
> >> propagandic
> >> screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
> >> matters
> >> and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
> >> outright
> >> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> >> effects
> >> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said,
> CTRL
> >> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
> >> readers;
> >> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial
> and
> >> nazi's need not apply.
> >>
> >> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> >>
> 
> >> Archives Available at:
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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Jerry,

You're such a freak. I bet if you stared me down face to face you wouldn't
be half as bold as you are over e-mail. What gives you the power to
determine if I'm a neonazi or not? Because I have an opinon that differs
from yours? I think that makes you more of a nazi than I ever will be. And I
know you're a total pussy because the last time I challenged you on this
list, you backed down like a whipped dog! Keep your facile and juvenile
opinions to yourself, unless you're enough of a man to back them up.

JB



> --
> From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 5:06 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 1/14/99 10:59:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >
> >  Larry Flynt is a mushmouthed cripple
>
> The neonazis just can't help themselves.
>
> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> ==
> CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
> propagandic
> screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
> matters
> and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
> outright
> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> effects
> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
> readers;
> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
> nazi's need not apply.
>
> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> 
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> Om
>

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==
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and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

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Re: [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Larry Flynt is a mushmouthed cripple who's entire life has been a farce. And
the sad thing is, the American people have BOUGHT INTO IT. Milos Forman's
1996 film did everything but depict Flynt on the cross in order to raise his
image to that of divinity. I'm waiting for the director's cut where Flynt is
showing rolling his gold-plated wheelchair through the streets of Calcutta,
doling out issues of "Barely Legal" to the lepers. Yes, the 1st amendment is
important and all that, but if you think for one moment that Flynt would
give a damn about the Constitution if it didn't serve his needs then you
have a seriously distorted view of the world. Flynt doesn't give a crap
about democracy, and he could care less about free speech. He just wants the
freedom to show beaver shots hassle-free. PLEASE, people. Stop kowtowing at
the foot of this slug! The only hypocrisy afoot is the one Flynt himself
promulgates.

> --
> From: J FROST[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 6:55 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [CTRL] Larry Flynt SLEAZEBALL?
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> .Larry Flynt is anything but a sleazeball. He's a true
> a)  champion of the 1st  Amendment
> b)   and is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the radical right.
> ===
> There are 3 functions
> Natural functions like taking a ...
> Instincts that all animals have
> Thought... which only humans have.
>
> Speech is the exchange of thoughts between
> humans.
> Visual, audio, smell ... sex stimulates have nothing with
> speech or the thought process, they are raw animal instincts.
> If sexual stimulation is speech, then when can we expect
> dogs and pigs have the right to vote?
>
> a)  Flint is not a champion of free speech, he is a fat bitter
> old man who got rich giving men errections.
> He is a pathetic grease ball with all that wealth and all
> those women around him, he is paralized from the
> waist down ... ah, true justice.
>
> b)  As for hypocricy, Flint is the king of hypocrites while
> he pushes to expose evil hypocrite politician, he does
> not expose the democrat hypocrites.
> While he strikes out against the hypocrite christians,
> his purpose of attack is to protect the "christian"
> hypocrite clinton.
>
> All he says about republicans and more may well be
> true, but there is nothing he exposes about republicans
> that is not true about democrats.
>
> For all democratic stooges who ralley for Flint, bring
> your own mothers and daughters, Flint has a pop bottle
> you can use to stick up them as his photographers
> zoom in on the shot.
>
> Anyone who finds any merit in Flynt is indeed a sleazeball
> themselves.
>
> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> ==
> CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
> propagandic
> screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
> matters
> and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
> outright
> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> effects
> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
> readers;
> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
> nazi's need not apply.
>
> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> 
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>

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screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Well said, Carlene. It gave me a warm feeling inside. The kind of feeling
you get when you realize that it's your life's goal to be a celebrity
lookalike of Alan Hale.

> --
> From: Carlene M. Wojahn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:57 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> > > We were having fun.  Accent on the WERE.
> > >
> > > Now as far as Carlene getting pissed because she can not use the Bible
> as  her
> > citation source everytime.
>
> >>>>I don't quote the Bible, used to know it fairly well, but I don't
> quote it,
> you must be thinking about something else.
>
> >>>and for references I did take it to heart, but I noticed others
> weren't. I was
> not pI@@ed ...thought it interesting that others weren't quoting sources.
>
> >>>Sorry I offended you...just having fun.  It is nice to see people on
> the list
> with a sense of humor instead of being serious all of the time.
>
>
> >  a English exam.
>
> Did quite well I am a he## of a researcher and writer.
>
> > Also as far as Hawk accusing everyone of telling him he
> >  is a Liar, because evidently his version of history is the gold plated
> one.
>
> >>>>I think he is the one who quotes the Bible...which is good, wish I
> could.
>
> >
> > >
> > > I personally am getting tired of you children - grow up.
>
> >>>>Huh  ???  Growing up means growing old...and I don't want to get
> there.  You
> see you can be young physically, but depending on your attitude you can be
> your
> age, or a lot, lot older.  I know younger people going on 90just
> because of
> their attitude...sorry rather have some humor in my life.
>
> >>>Carlene
>
> >
> > > Laura
> > > AKA The Pied Piper
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Carlene M. Wojahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Caveat Lector-
> > > >
> > > >Thank you Jeremy for that refreshing conversation we had..maybe it
> made a
> > > few
> > > >others smile as well.   Take care and don't let anyone get you out of
> > > that
> > > good
> > > >mood you are in..isn't worth it,
> > > >
> > > >You see if you did you would be playing right into a conspiracy of
> that
> > > person or
> > > >parties...to make you grumpy just like them...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Carlene
> > > >
> > > >"Brown, Jeremy" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>  -Caveat Lector-
> > > >>
> > > >> Jerry,
> > > >>
> > > >>Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont!
> Who
> > > do
> > > >> you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't?
> Like
> > > >> you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few
> goofy
> > > >> e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking
> personal
> > > >> shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG
> It's
> > > people
> > > >> like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one
> of
> > > those
> > > >> people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some
> kids
> > > >> smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let
> me
> > > give
> > > >> you a little SAT lingo -
> > > >>
> > > >> You are to fun as water is to fire.
> > > >>
> > > >> L I G H T E N  U P, you'll live longer.
> > > >>
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >> > Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> > > >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM
> > > >> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >> > Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >  -Caveat Lecto

Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Mark,

I applaud your bravery in what was certainly a most dire situation. I too
have been working with a fifth column group dedicated to the overthrowing of
the mime culture. My contact goes by the name of Popo the Mime and has been
seen walking in the winf at the fountain at Lincolin Center and riding a
unicycle outside the Delacourte theater. He has detailed for me some of the
inner workings of the group. A plan to overtake the world that is almost too
insidious to describe. It will begin with strategically placed mimes
performing for prominent members of world socitey (artists, authors,
politicians). During their performance, they will ask slected members of the
audience to smell the flower they have attatched to their lapels or
suspenders. The flower will then release a blast of neurotoxin that will
permanently freeze the vocal cords, thereby making the only possible form of
communicationMIME!

> --
> From: MARK[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 7:20 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> I've just returned from working undercover at the "Parisien Mime Expo'
> 99" held, oddly enough, in Lyon.  It was a very quiet affair, with only
> a few coughs, farts and burps breaking the silence.  However, the
> audience was held in rapture as Secretary General for the International
> Mime Federation - Jean Baptiste Hufflinger, demonstrated to the
> amusement of the gathering, how he would feel the walls if he were
> imprisoned in an invisible cage.  The group found this hilarious.  Next
> he showed how to walk against an imaginary strong wind - again,
> uproarious silent laughter from the audience.
>
> Lunch consisted of invisible sandwiches being eaten from invisible
> plates, whilst opening imaginary bottles to drink from.
>
> The dress code was a black and white striped top, black trousers, white
> gloves, white face-paint and a bowler hat with a flower sticking from
> it.
>
> After lunch, Presidente Henri Denieux held our interest when, as
> suspected, he detailed plans for Global Domination by the Mime culture.
> He mimed that their terrorist group - Mimists Overthrowing Rest Of
> Normality (M.O.R.O.N.) have already had great success with new recruits
> in Shopping Centres, Fairs, Street Corners, Birthday Parties and
> Schools.
>
> He was just about to reveal the next stage of his plan, when my white
> face paint began to run, and I was noticed for the undercover agent that
> I am.
>
> I had to make a hasty retreat, and escape from hundreds of Mimists who
> were all running on the spot trying to get to me.
>
> I am now back in my native UK, and beg you all to rise up and stop the
> menace of the Mimist and MORONs.
>
> Rise now, before it is too late.
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brown, Jeremy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 12 January 1999 20:23
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]
> >
> >  -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Laura,
> >
> >You raise an interesting point. However, I must argue that the
> > comparison
> > of mime to x-rated movies doesn't hold much water. I admit to being a
> > little
> > confused by this approach. How did you reach this conclusion? If I
> > want to
> > see a film of that type, I have to get in my car, drive to a video
> > store,
> > walk behind the groovy beaded curtain and pay for my selection. It is
> > a
> > conscious decision on my part. However, a mime just comes up to you
> > without
> > your consent or invitation and assaults your senses with a barrage of
> > cheap
> > laughs and minimalist entertainment.
> >As for the message, an x-rated film's is pretty simple. "Get your
> > rocks
> > off cheap!". A mime has no message. He or she is just a talentless
> > hack
> > who's foisting off a dying art form on you in hopes of procuring spare
> > change.
> > In addition, from a sociological point of view, mimes don't have a
> > leg
> > to stand on against x-rated entertainment. The reason being, is that
> > if you
> > lined up a group of people outside of two rooms, and behind one door
> > was a
> > screening room showing a "blue movie", and behind the other door was a
> > mime,
> > I would be willing to bet that room #2 would be stark empty! Not that
> > I'm
> > endorsing x-rated entertainment per say, but you and I know human
> > nature
> > well enough to agree that most people 

Re: [CTRL] Greatest Generation of Collectivist Fools!

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Lloyd,

   While I can apprecitate that your point of view need mot be the same as
everyone's, I must disagree. Perhaps they were pawns in a greater scheme (or
perhaps not), but they most certainly WERE NOT spineless. Would you have had
the courage to set foor on Omaha Beach, knowing that there was an almost
100% chance that you would be cut down instantly? These men and women paid
the greatest price in the interest of democracy. Don't spit on their graves
by calling them spineless.

JB

> --
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>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Just listening to Tom Brokaw on MSNBC re: his book, The Greatest
> Generation.
>
> What crap!  The World War II generation:  traumatized and buffaloed by the
> depression in Roosevelt's fascist New Deal and then tricked by the simple
> minded Pearl Harbor strategem into the useless slaughter of WWII quickly
> forgetting the "Merchants of Death" lessons of WWI!  Dispatching Nazi and
> Japanese totalitarianism and paving the way for Soviet and Red Chinese
> totalitarianism.
>
> A worthless, spineless herd of pathetic ruling class pawns, for sure!
>
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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

I think we should all mellow out. What's with the "accent on the WERE"
stuff? Personally, fun for me is NEVER in the past tense. I invite everyone
to lighten up, come down off your pedestals and soapboxes and enjoy life.
Truthfully, I found (and continue to find) it very gratifying that this list
actually had people who were willing to respond to my silliness in kind
(with certain exceptions). And it even gave rise to a rather interesting
discussion! SO let's just be happy with that and move on to the next hour of
the party, folks!

Jeremy

P.S. Mime still sucks ass.

> --
> From: L. Shipton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:00 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> We were having fun.  Accent on the WERE.
>
> Now as far as Carlene getting pissed because she can not use the Bible as
> her citation source everytime.  I can imagine what she thought when
> assigned
> a English exam.  Also as far as Hawk accusing everyone of telling him he
> is
> a Liar, because evidently his version of history is the gold plated one.
>
> I personally am getting tired of you children - grow up.
> Laura
> AKA The Pied Piper
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carlene M. Wojahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >Thank you Jeremy for that refreshing conversation we had..maybe it made a
> few
> >others smile as well.   Take care and don't let anyone get you out of
> that
> good
> >mood you are in..isn't worth it,
> >
> >You see if you did you would be playing right into a conspiracy of that
> person or
> >parties...to make you grumpy just like them...
> >
> >
> >Carlene
> >
> >"Brown, Jeremy" wrote:
> >
> >>  -Caveat Lector-
> >>
> >> Jerry,
> >>
> >>Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont! Who
> do
> >> you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't? Like
> >> you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few goofy
> >> e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking personal
> >> shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG It's
> people
> >> like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one of
> those
> >> people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some kids
> >> smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let me
> give
> >> you a little SAT lingo -
> >>
> >> You are to fun as water is to fire.
> >>
> >> L I G H T E N  U P, you'll live longer.
> >>
> >> > --
> >> > From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM
> >> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
> >> >
> >> >  -Caveat Lector-
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >  Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a
> >> > different
> >> > >  sense of perspective.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and
> silly
> >> > to
> >> > the mature and refined.
> >> >
> >> > Jerry
> >> >
> >> > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
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> >> > propagandic
> >> > screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
> >> > matters
> >> > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
> >> > outright
> >> > frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> >> > effects
> >> > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said,
> CTRL
> >> > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
> >> > readers;
> >> > be 

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Jerry,

   Must you be so high and mighty? You sound like Margaret Dumont! Who do
you think you are spouting off about who's immature and who isn't? Like
you're so highbrow? I can't believe that you'd actually let a few goofy
e-mails get you into such a lather that you'd resort to taking personal
shots at people! GET OVER YOURSELF YOU OVER-INFLATED WINDBAG It's people
like you who suck all the fun right out of life. I bet you were one of those
people in high school who would tell a teacher if you caught some kids
smoking behind the bleachers. You're so mature and intelligent, let me give
you a little SAT lingo -

You are to fun as water is to fire.

L I G H T E N  U P, you'll live longer.

> --
> From: Gerald Harp[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 3:58 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 1/11/99 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >
> >  Having lived and studied among the natives thereof, I gained a
> different
> >  sense of perspective.
>
> Thank you, Alamaine, for lifting this thread from the immature and silly
> to
> the mature and refined.
>
> Jerry
>
> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> ==
> CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
> propagandic
> screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
> matters
> and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
> outright
> frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> effects
> spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
> readers;
> be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
> nazi's need not apply.
>
> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> 
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Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Laura,

   You raise an interesting point. However, I must argue that the comparison
of mime to x-rated movies doesn't hold much water. I admit to being a little
confused by this approach. How did you reach this conclusion? If I want to
see a film of that type, I have to get in my car, drive to a video store,
walk behind the groovy beaded curtain and pay for my selection. It is a
conscious decision on my part. However, a mime just comes up to you without
your consent or invitation and assaults your senses with a barrage of cheap
laughs and minimalist entertainment.
   As for the message, an x-rated film's is pretty simple. "Get your rocks
off cheap!". A mime has no message. He or she is just a talentless hack
who's foisting off a dying art form on you in hopes of procuring spare
change.
In addition, from a sociological point of view, mimes don't have a leg
to stand on against x-rated entertainment. The reason being, is that if you
lined up a group of people outside of two rooms, and behind one door was a
screening room showing a "blue movie", and behind the other door was a mime,
I would be willing to bet that room #2 would be stark empty! Not that I'm
endorsing x-rated entertainment per say, but you and I know human nature
well enough to agree that most people (men and women) would take nudity and
sex over some creep on a unicycle.
   That is quite interesting about the Clintons. Although it doesn't really
surprise me.

Take care,

Jeremy


> --
> From: L. Shipton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 2:50 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Hey this sounds like what they pass off as Art in Washington.  Hillary
> backs
> x-rated movies and they give money to the arts to make them too.  Change
> the
> props " annoying props
> >> (whistles, balloons, etc.). "
> and the costumes or lack there if (if you do not count handcuffs or what
> ever they use) and I guess you have mimes.  Wonder what their (the x-rated
> movies) message is?
> I will take the mimes.
> Laura
> oh yes, documentation the Clintons support of this art form is in the
> Archives.
>
> Personally, I like France.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Carlene M. Wojahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >lol
> >
> >> Carlene,
> >>
> >>I appreciate your interest in my take on the French "culture". I
> must
> >> confess, I have no hard evidence to support the statement that the
> buttocks
> >> of the average Frenchman are indeed physically capable of playing any
> >> bellows-driven instrument.
> >
> >>Okay...when you find some documentation on this let me know.
> >
> >> However, I can attest that wherever you walk on the cruddy streets of
> Paris, you
> >> CONSTANTLY hear that goddamn accordion music playing.
> >
> >Wait a second why is it god@@@ accordian music up here in Wisconsin we
> have
> that
> >for our polkas, is that godd@@ as well ?   Now you will have to
> substantiate what
> >is and what isn't god@@@ and please include the criteria of what makes
> something
> >god@@@ or notOkay ?
> >
> >Regarding the chef's hat theorem... If you take your average chef's hat,
> and then
> >wereto compress it maniacally down on your head,===: THE BERET!
> >
> >>Now that you mention it...it could be a beret...okay will let that
> one
> pass,
> >we have to be careful with this documentation here.
> >
> >> Lastly, the phrase "mime sucks ass" is not merely an observation or a
> statement
> >> of vitriol. It is a bona fide fact. Let us examine the harsh truths of
> mime, and
> >> together we will learn why it does indeed suck ass.
> >>
> >> 1) Mimes wear tight pants, horizontal striped shirts, and suspenders. -
> >>  Conclusion: If an art form requires you to dress like a jerk, it sucks
> ass.
> >>
> >> 2) Mimes paint their faces stark white with that stupid teardrop on
> their
> >> cheek. -  Conclusion: Face painting sucks ass. Mime employs face
> painting.
> >> Therefore, mime sucks ass.
> >>
> >> 3) Mimes do stupid and annoying hand and body motions and try to pass
> it
> off as
> >> art.  - Now, if they really wereclimbing a mountain in a windstorm,
> that
> would
> >> be entertaining. There isalso the chance that they would be blown off
> the
> >> mountain. One less mime. Conclusion - Waving your hands around like a
> fan
> dancer
> >> with the DTs and calling it art sucks ass.
> >>
> >> 4) Mime bother people on the street and occasionally employ annoying
> props
> >> (whistles, balloons, etc.). - Conclusion: Annoying innocent bystanders
> with loud
> >> sounds and second-rate entertainment sucks ass.
> >>
> >> There you have it, my friend. In a nutshell, the reasons why mime sucks
> ass.
> >>
> >
> >Loved it !!!
> >
>

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Carlene,

  Regarding accordion music and it's state of damnation, I can safely say
that the polka music of Wisconsin does not fall in the same category. The
most basic reason stems from geography. The accordion music of the Wisconsin
polka is hearty, raucous, and punctuated by the mass consumption of beer. In
addition, the people of Wisconsin are hail-fellow, well-met types who make
any occasion a family-style event. This entire atmosphere makes the sound of
an accordion a welcome one. In contrast, the music that wafts through the
mass sewer that is the City of Lights is complemented by the scenery of the
repugnant French zipping around on their femme scooters, sucking down
Luckies,  eating stale crullers, and slurping coffee that looks like muck
from the bottom of the Seine while popping the blackheads off their bony
posteriors. Taking all of this horror in while the sound of an accordion
assaults your ears, creates a nightmare not even Dante could have
envisioned.
Now, about the mime thingit is not opinion it is a FACT. Mime sucks
and  the whole world knows it. The fact that no one has sent any rebuttal or
rebuke over my last post proves this irrefutably. Mime is for people who are
out of touch, have no taste and whose heads are crammed so far up their
asses, they need a glass belly button to see the world. That said, it's no
wonder the French love it so much.

Regards,

JB

> --
> From: Carlene M. Wojahn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 12:51 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> lol
>
> > Carlene,
> >
> >I appreciate your interest in my take on the French "culture". I must
> > confess, I have no hard evidence to support the statement that the
> buttocks
> > of the average Frenchman are indeed physically capable of playing any
> > bellows-driven instrument.
>
> >Okay...when you find some documentation on this let me know.
>
> > However, I can attest that wherever you walk on the cruddy streets of
> Paris, you
> > CONSTANTLY hear that goddamn accordion music playing.
>
> Wait a second why is it god@@@ accordian music up here in Wisconsin we
> have that
> for our polkas, is that godd@@ as well ?   Now you will have to
> substantiate what
> is and what isn't god@@@ and please include the criteria of what makes
> something
> god@@@ or notOkay ?
>
> Regarding the chef's hat theorem... If you take your average chef's hat,
> and then
> wereto compress it maniacally down on your head,===: THE BERET!
>
> >Now that you mention it...it could be a beret...okay will let that
> one pass,
> we have to be careful with this documentation here.
>
> > Lastly, the phrase "mime sucks ass" is not merely an observation or a
> statement
> > of vitriol. It is a bona fide fact. Let us examine the harsh truths of
> mime, and
> > together we will learn why it does indeed suck ass.
> >
> > 1) Mimes wear tight pants, horizontal striped shirts, and suspenders. -
> >  Conclusion: If an art form requires you to dress like a jerk, it sucks
> ass.
> >
> > 2) Mimes paint their faces stark white with that stupid teardrop on
> their
> > cheek. -  Conclusion: Face painting sucks ass. Mime employs face
> painting.
> > Therefore, mime sucks ass.
> >
> > 3) Mimes do stupid and annoying hand and body motions and try to pass it
> off as
> > art.  - Now, if they really wereclimbing a mountain in a windstorm, that
> would
> > be entertaining. There isalso the chance that they would be blown off
> the
> > mountain. One less mime. Conclusion - Waving your hands around like a
> fan dancer
> > with the DTs and calling it art sucks ass.
> >
> > 4) Mime bother people on the street and occasionally employ annoying
> props
> > (whistles, balloons, etc.). - Conclusion: Annoying innocent bystanders
> with loud
> > sounds and second-rate entertainment sucks ass.
> >
> > There you have it, my friend. In a nutshell, the reasons why mime sucks
> ass.
> >
>
> Loved it !!!
>
> > ROFLAO
>
> >Okay, pretty good documentation but is it a documentation of opinion
> or fact.
>
> 
>
> I look forward to reading your other posts, but please remember to
> documentate.
> 
> Carlene
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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Carlene,

   I appreciate your interest in my take on the French "culture". I must
confess, I have no hard evidence to support the statement that the buttocks
of the average Frenchman are indeed physically capable of playing any
bellows-driven instrument. However, I can attest that wherever you walk on
the cruddy streets of Paris, you CONSTANTLY hear that goddamn accordion
music playing. It's enough to make you sign up for the Luftwaffe. Regarding
the chef's hat theorem... If you take your average chef's hat, and then were
to compress it maniacally down on your head, you would be the proud wearer
of the most lopsided fashion idea in world history: THE BERET! Lastly, the
phrase "mime sucks ass" is not merely an observation or a statement of
vitriol. It is a bona fide fact. Let us examine the harsh truths of mime,
and together we will learn why it does indeed suck ass.

1) Mimes wear tight pants, horizontal striped shirts, and suspenders. -
This is an outfit that was chic in 1983 when it was worn by Mork from Ork,
but in the 1990s is only fit to be worn by someone who has broken out of an
insane asylum. Yet mimes flagrantly walk the streets in this getup and think
that they are making an artistic statement. Conclusion: If an art form
requires you to dress like a jerk, it sucks ass.

2) Mimes paint their faces stark white with that stupid teardrop on their
cheek. - Face-painting is something that shabby hotels offer to parents who
want to dump their kids somewhere while they go snorkeling. All kids hate
face painting, as it is annoying and always poorly done. The end result
always makes the poor child look like John Wayne Gacy. Conclusion: Face
painting sucks ass. Mime employs face painting. Therefore, mime sucks ass.

3) Mimes do stupid and annoying hand and body motions and try to pass it off
as art.  - What is the appeal of watching some fool walk around with their
hands in front of them like their stuck in a box? Or climbing a mountain in
a windstorm? This has zero entertainment value. Now, if they really were
climbing a mountain in a windstorm, that would be entertaining. There is
also the chance that they would be blown off the mountain. One less mime.
Conclusion - Waving your hands around like a fan dancer with the DTs and
calling it art sucks ass.

4) Mime bother people on the street and occasionally employ annoying props
(whistles, balloons, etc.). - If I'm minding my own business walking to work
or whatever, the LAST thing I need is somebody in my face pretending to
catch an invisible ball in a paper bag and bleating a whistle in my ear.
It's the sort of occasion that the Tazer was designed for. And when the pass
that hat around, it really makes you wish you could puke at will.
Conclusion: Annoying innocent bystanders with loud sounds and second-rate
entertainment sucks ass.

There you have it, my friend. In a nutshell, the reasons why mime sucks ass.
I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions and answered any questions you
may have had about the world's WORST form of expression.

Warm regards,

JB
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> From: Carlene M. Wojahn[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Conspiracy Theory Research List
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 11:05 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> "Brown, Jeremy" wrote:
>
> >  -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > The French are all vulgar troglodytes who rarely bathe and stink of
> rancid
> > coffee and fetid wine. Those stupid berets look like deflated chef's
> hats.And
> > that freakin' Eiffel tower looks like an Erector set that was never
> finished. It
> > probably isn't finished. They were too busy laying down in the
> > gutters like DOGS as the Panzer tanks rolled over their stupid
> > accordion-playing asses.
>
> We need documentation here did they really have accordion playing a@@es if
> so
> please give the url ?  Also need the url about the beret that was a chefs
> hat as
> wellplease document.
>
> lol
>
> Carlene
>
> >
> >
> > "Oh-ho-ho, Messeiur Heetler, ze citee of Paris is yours for ze taking!"
> >
> > Mime sucks ass.
>
> Need to document this too.
>
> Carlene
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Re: [CTRL] New Book Probes Princess Diana Death

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Look, if they've got such a big movie screen, do you think we can talk them
into showing the "Star Wars" prequel on it?

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>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> NEW BOOK PROBES PRINCESS DIANA DEATH
> 
>
> (CNNS,  01/11/99)  --  "Ru  Mills"  (pseudonym)  has  authored  a
> soon-to-be  published   book   which   probes  the  circumstances
> surrounding the death of Princess Diana in August 1997.
>
> The book,  tentatively  titled,  "Diana,  Queen  of  Heaven,"  is
> apparently  the first to question whether the death of Lady Diana
> was truly  a  car  accident.   Information  in  the book strongly
> suggests that Lady  Diana  was  murdered,  as  the  result  of  a
> conspiracy against her.
>
> "Ru  Mills"  is  well  known to readers of Conspiracy Nation News
> Service and has an impressive background.  Her deep-cover sources
> routinely provide her  with  inside  information  which has often
> proven to be prescient.
>
> Besides  questioning  whether  Diana's  death   was   really   an
> "accident,"  Mills  elaborates  on  how  the revered image of the
> princess may be used  to  promote  a  "New World Religion."  In a
> memo sent to CNNS, she discusses how holographic technology could
> be used to help foster a religious mania.
>
> Quoting  from  a  political  newsletter,  Mills  buttresses   her
> argument:
>
>   The  'Blue  Beam'  project will pretend to be the universal
>   fulfillment of the prophecies of old; as major an event  as
>   that  which  took place 2000 years ago (the birth of Jesus,
>   son of God).
>
>   In principle, 'Blue Beam'  will  make  use  of the sky as a
>   movie screen as spaced based  laser  generating  satellites
>   project simultaneous images to  the  four  corners  of  the
>   planet, in every  language,  in  every dialect according to
>   region.
>
>   The 'Blue Beam' project deals with the religious aspect  of
>   the New World Order and is a large scale seduction.
>
>   With computer animation and sound effects appearing to come
>   from the  depths  of  space,  astonished  followers  of the
>   various  creeds  will witness their own returned messiah in
>   spectacularly convincing life like realness.
>
>   (Washington   Report   A   monthly   Washington   Political
>   Newsletter, February 1995, Volume 16)
>
> With "Millenium Madness" on the rise, secret forces pushing for a
> "New World Order" could well  have  an  image of "Diana, Queen of
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Re: [CTRL] Bob: I WAS RAPED ABOARD A FLYING SAUCER

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

I was sodomized with the broken end of a Nehi bottle by a pair of Zeta
Reticulans who dressed like Olivia Newton John at the end of "Grease". This
incident ocurred in tandem with my horrifying experience of being run over
repeatedly by a unicycle ridden by Spiro Agnew.

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>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Bob:
>
> > Why, it was *redheads* who abducted me...beamed me up in my
> >pajamas...subjected me to...no, no, I can't go on, it's too
> painful...
> >Non-abductees simply cannot understand the nature of the experience...
>
> CHICKEN! :-) :-) Come on, tell us about "the probe."
>
> Edward   ><>
> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>   "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's
> revolutionary force." Edward Britton   ><>
>http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html
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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

The French are all vulgar troglodytes who rarely bathe and stink of rancid
coffee and fetid wine. Those stupid berets look like deflated chef's hats.
And that freakin' Eiffel tower looks like an Erector set that was never
finished. It probably isn't finished. They were too busy laying down in the
gutters like DOGS as the Panzer tanks rolled over their stupid
accordion-playing asses.

"Oh-ho-ho, Messeiur Heetler, ze citee of Paris is yours for ze taking!"

Mime sucks ass.

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> From: Robert Tatman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Vive La France!]
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Alamaine Ratliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > Now I understand *why* I'm not really upset at Billio, rather
> disappointed
> > in his inability be good at avoiding perils:  too many years as a
> > Francophile.  Again, as G Ferraro put it, if stupidity were grounds for
> > impeachment ...
> >
> > From Int'l Herald Tribune
> >
> > Paris, Saturday, January 9, 1999
> >
> >
> > Behind the Ridicule, the French May See Peril in Too Much Truth
> >
> 
> LOL...when my father was attached to G-2, Allied HQ, Algiers during 1942
> and
> 1943, one of his chief tasks was to ride herd on the Free French,
> including
> making sure that no one told them too much. Anything said within the
> hearing
> of French officers was certain to be public knowledge within two or three
> hours... The problem with the French, IMHO, is that they always proceed on
> the
> assumption that their way of doing things is not simply the *right* way,
> it is
> the *only* way. They suffer, not from a lack of national self-esteem, but
> from
> too much self-esteem. "Chauvinism," after all, took its name from an
> officer
> in Napoleon's army.
>
> Bob
>
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Re: [CTRL] Two Republicans To Be "Larry Flynted"

[Brown, Jeremy]

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The only complaint I have about Flynt, is that he should not have made a
cameo appearance in the movie about his life! I mean, we're going along,
nice and smoothly, right? Lot's of booty, Courtney Love's flouncing around
in skimpy outfits. Then we get to the courtroom scene, and FLYNT'S PLAYING
THE JUDGE WHAT is up with THAT??? With that paralyzed, stroke-ridden
mushmouthed voice he starts droning on:

"Misshter Flynt. Tshat kind ufun outbursht ish not ascheptabble!

GIMME A FREAKIN' BREAK, PEOPLE

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> In a message dated 1/10/99 8:25:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> << Flynt is a stinking lousy scumbag. >>
>
> Why do you say that?  I don't know a lot about Larry Flynt, and I don't
> read
> his mag, but if you have hypocritical guys throwing stones, it's not
> Flynt's
> fault.  I can buy his rationale that Christ was right when He said, "Let
> he
> who is without sin cast the first stone."  I wish I had the money to make
> Flynt's offer.  There is something really scummy about people who can
> overlook
> their own sins whle decrying someone else's behavior.  Prudy
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Criminalizing Homelessness

[Brown, Jeremy]

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Well Agent, I don't know what that says about you that you want my ass at
all! Is that a rough trade game you like to play? Why don't you just sit in
the gutter with the rest of the castoffs and stop making idle threats?

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Re: [CTRL] Ready For Pope Potato Chips?

[Brown, Jeremy]

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Personally, I want to see Pope toilet paper.

The motto could be "The Church is Always on Your Ass!"

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>
> "At a news conference, church spokesman Hector Fernandez assured the
> faithful
> that `the Holy Father will not be linked to the advertising campaign nor
> will
> he go out dressed as a potato.'"
> ==
> Ready For Pope Potato Chips?
>
> MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Remember Pope-on-a-Rope-Soap? Well, get ready for
> papal potato chips.
>
> A Mexican potato chip company is helping local Roman Catholic Church
> officials
> raise funds for Pope John Paul II's four-day visit this month by adding
> photographs of the pope or the Virgin of Guadeloupe inside each bag of
> Sabritas brand potato chips.
>
> For two pesos, or about 20 cents, collectors can purchase a special album
> from
> Sabritas to hold 10 different pictures. Proceeds from the album sales will
> go
> to the Catholic Church in Mexico. If all nine million albums are sold,
> that
> would mean 18 million pesos, or about $1.8 million, for the church.
>
> The pope's visit is expected to cost about $1.2 million.
>
> At a news conference, church spokesman Hector Fernandez assured the
> faithful
> that ``the Holy Father will not be linked to the advertising campaign nor
> will
> he go out dressed as a potato.''
>
> In Spanish, the word for pope and potato is the same: papa. It was not
> clear
> if a pun was intended.
>
> Asked if it was a bit cheeky to drop a picture of the pope into a bag of
> chips, Fernandez said no. ``It's not a promotional event,'' but instead
> designed to spread the pope's message to every corner of Mexico, he said.
>
> Sabritas officials said they did not expect to increase sales or make
> extra
> profits off the campaign, even though Mexicans love to plaster images of
> the
> Virgin and the pope on everything from taxis and buses to lunch boxes and
> window displays.
>
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Criminalizing Homelessness

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Screw all the homeless!!! Personally, I would like to kick up dust in their
collective faces as my Range Rover speeds me off to a ski vacation in Aspen!
However, I would not want to sully the Gucci bags I have on the luggage rack
with their cooties. During this cold month of January, I like to think about
the homeless people of this country. I usually do it while sitting on the
deck of my house in St. Thomas. Then I collapse into fits of laughter.

What do you think they say as they're going to sleep?
"Hey Joe, isn't this bed GRATE?"

What does a homeless kid say to his parents when he turns 18?
"Mom, Dad. I have to move out. This place has me BOXED IN!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

   This is America,  land of opportunity!  If they don't know how to work
hard and get ahead, then I say they are criminals! They are violating the
basic principles of capitalism. I say if you do not have at least $250,000
in the bank by the time you are 27 then you are lazy, shiftless and should
be rounded up with the rest of the freeloaders and destroyed.

LONG LIVE THE TOP 10%!!
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>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 1/8/99 12:22:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << . And a general explosion of the not-in-my-backyard
>  syndrome among the less-than-liberal public as it raced toward yuppie
>  excess dreaming of riches and power. >>
>
> Yes, it's still going on.  There's a big fight going on re a half-way
> house in
> our area right now.  Prudy
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Re: [CTRL] JFK MURDER SOLVED - The truth after 35 years . . .

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Ladybird Johnson did it.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject:  [CTRL] JFK MURDER SOLVED - The truth after 35 years . . .
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> from:
> http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/9747/
> http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/9747/">JFK MURDER SOLVED -
> The
> truth after 35 years
> -
> Many reports and web links. As always, . . .
> Om
> K
> -
>
>
>  This web site
> placed here
> as a special courtesy
> for the United States
> Department of Justice.
> Click on the links
> below for review.
> THE
> LAST
> SHOT
>
> MEET THE MAN
> WHO KILLED JFK.
> HE IS STILL ALIVE!
>
> A man will try to sleep tonight in prison Somewhere in the midwest.
> Sleep won't come easy. Far too many memories of cold blooded murder
> and covert espionage nibble their way toward the inner shreds of his
> soul. or what's left of it... His cell is dark and damp An old
> guitar rests proudly in one corner. Hank and Willie songbooks lay in a
> state of disarray near the dingy sink next to the one towel he owns. A
> guitar pick made of empty matchbook covers and rubberbands is wedged
> between the rusty old strings and the instrument's battered neck
> Secrets rest here or merely dance in turmoil A life of murder and
> government orders intermeshed with organized crime and mom's apple pie.
> The air is still, the night is long a dreamer not, least he sleep.
> But sleep won't come the whole night through He'll tell too much
> if he talks The mob and the CIA have warned him already. His family
> has been threatened. There is no turning back now. It's too late. He
> has confessed In living color and in stereo digital sound on a piece
> of magnetic video tape Network quality Immortalized forever in
> American history. The warden created a special area for him.
> Only his friends are around him He shall not be killed by a young
> stranger with a mission They will have to work hard to silence him
> forever The warden knows he is telling the truth The warden's
> toughest job is to keep him alive for another 50 years. to serve his
> time... Inside his head are the secrets of history The early days of
> Vietnam and why we really fought there The Bay of Pigs The
> events that occurred in Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963. The
> assassination of a U.S. President The death of foreign
> Presidents.. The murders of thousands of innocent people
> worldwide. Armed violence Aggravated assault
> Explosives... Covert "black" operations.. He is sudden death to
> the leaders of the invisible government. There is no trace of his birth
> record. The CIA erased that years ago
>
> NEW JFK REPORT FROM DENMARK!
>
> THE REMINGTON FIREBALL XP-100
>
> THE MOTEL AND THE PANCAKE HOUSE
>
> JAMES FILES BEHIND
> THE STOCKADE FENCE?
>
> DEALEY PLAZA MAP OF
> PARTICIPANTS 11/22/63
>
> JFK MURDER SOLVED PICTURE GALLERY
>
> THE 3 TRAMPS - WERE THEY CIA?
> THE MAN THAT EMBALMED JFK
>
>
>
>  CONFESSION
>
> EVIDENCE
>
> INVESTIGATION
>
> SUMMARY
>
> MORE EVIDENCE
>
> WARNING! The contents of this web site are the copyrighted property of
> Truth, Truth, Truth, Inc. and Investigative Concepts Unlimited and are
> not to be reproduced, duplicated, copied or distributed in any form
> whatsoever without the expressed written consent of the copyright
> holders. Any violation of this warning shall be subject to criminal
> investigation by the FBI and violators may receive fines and time in
> jail or both.
>
> NEW REPORT ON JAMES FILES IN REAL PLAYER G2 FORMAT
>
> FBI DOCUMENTS ON JAMES EARL FILES
>
> PICTURES OF JAMES FILES AGES 10-12, 21, 34, 52
>
> RESULTS OF FIRST LIE DETECTOR TEST
> ON JAMES FILES
>
> JAMES EARL FILES FAMILY TREE
>
> CIA PILOTS ON THE SOUTH GRASSY KNOLL
>
> CONFESSION EXCERPTS OF CIA PILOT TOSH PLUMLEE
>
> MORE FROM CIA PILOT TOSH PLUMLEE
>
> 11/15/98 E-MAIL FROM
> CIA PILOT TOSH PLUMLEE!
>
> E-MAIL #2 11/15/98 FROM CIA PILOT TOSH PLUMLEE
>
> THE DOCUMENT THE CIA DOESN'T
> WANT YOU TO SEE!
>
> CHRISTMAS CARD FROM JAMES FILES
>
> WHO IS THIS MAN
> SEEN IN DEALEY
> PLAZA ON 11/22/63?
>
>
>
> -
> Aloha, He'Ping,
> Om, Shalom, Salaam.
> Em Hotep, Peace Be,
> Omnia Bona Bonis,
> All My Relations.
> Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
> Amen.
> Roads End
> Kris
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Re: [CTRL] Senate letter

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

The great tragedy of all of this impeachment stuff is that President Clinton
might be forced out of office before May 21 and then he wouldn't get to see
a free screening of the "Star Wars" prequel. Then he'll have to wait on line
with everyone else while people make jokes about his crooked lightsaber.

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>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> I sent this off to the 100 individual senators...I hope it gets posted
> to the list.
>
> U. S. Senate
>   December 31, 1998
> Washington, D.C.
>
>
> To all Senators:
>
> This letter brings with it, the hope of a peaceful, healthy and
> prosperous New Year for you and yours, and that our Nation will continue
> to
> have God's grace shed upon it.
>As a new year brings changes in the U.S. Senate, perhaps this letter
> will be passed on to others as well, who will now help "carry the torch".
> My intention is to share my thoughts and give support to you, in the
> difficult decisions ahead, especially as a Presidential impeachment trial
> begins.
>There are few sadder tasks possible for you and our entire Nation to
> experience and endure than such a trial. What troubles me, are the polls
> and various information coming from the major media regarding public
> opinion of President Clinton. If we  believe the "media-hype", then
> President Clinton is almost owed an apology from the nation, but if we
> believe the majority of computer polls across the country, his removal
> from
> office will once again restore integrity to, and trust in our system of
> government.
>It amazes me, how one man can place such a burden upon so great a
> nation
> that has endured  the perils of world wars, economic breakdowns, and
> natural catastrophes.
> A popular phrase coined recently, "It's the economy, stupid ", has
> people thinking of the prosperity. Certainly everyone enjoys the fullness
> of life that a strong, healthy  economy can produce. But we must not allow
> such prosperity and comfort to overshadow the decay in our nation. Tons of
> cocaine and heroin continue to pour into our major cities. Increased
> immorality, sexual crimes, promiscuity, and social unrest destroy the very
> fabric of America. But the major-media puts up a "smoke screen " telling
> us
> violent crime is on the down slide. Our intelligence and awareness of
> America's serious problems has been insulted and underestimated by many
> political and economic leaders. I find that appalling, and destructive to
> the progress of the nation. We must change this attitude and more closely
> work with our representatives, or we will be "swallowed up" by the
> globalist agenda as the U.S. weakens. Our current "Rhodes scholar",
> President Clinton, is diligently removing our sovereignty as he supports
> the United Nations global agenda. The world was never meant to be ruled
> under one "order "or "agenda", but rather to help one another, as all
> nations grow in their own time and way.
> Considering if only 10% were true of the many books written about
> President Clinton's abuse of power and lack of integrity, America has a
> serious problem to contend with. How could over fifty people surrounding
> President Clinton, have met with mysterious homicides, suicides or
> imprisonment during the President's term of office without some serious
> questions being asked ? The decisions you make during this historic trial
> will affect the course of our nation and the relationship we have with our
> neighbors of the world. May the wisdom and guidance of God be with you
> all.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
>  Harry Hendrickson
>
>
>  Maybe there are some that will think twice before cowering under the
> threat of blackmail.  We all have to realize ourselves in the other
> persons
> place. These senators have much to lay on the line after all is done. We
> of
> course will be affected by their decisions too, but the ones who go
> against
> the grain will stand to lose almost everything. There are such powerful
> influences working here, that we really have no idea to what magnitude.
> So,
> I say this, that if a senator stands up against the tide of this
> impeachment trial, he has earned my respect. Sure, some may simply vote
> the
> party, but this trial has much more at stake..harry
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Re: [CTRL] External Forces

[Brown, Jeremy]

 -Caveat Lector-

Yes, I can confirm this. It is a result of Donnie Osmond's purple socks
being sucked into the NORAD computer and causing it to crash. My computer
has a virus too, so I have kept it home from school and presribed Children's
Tylenol for the fever. This is a grave concern for us as a nation. It is
even more frightening than the time I found out that I was made of tin foil
and reflected the sun wherever I went. Of course, I shouldn't be telling you
this as I have a radio in my head that is controlled by Eva Peron. If I am
discovered revealing sensitive information, she will make me listen to
selections from "The Sound of Music" performed by Tyne Daly through a
running vaccum cleaner. Naturally this is something to sneeze at, but not
too close as I don't want to make my computer even more ill than it is. Why
don't we all just tie ribbons in our entrails and try to use our pets as
kites. That way we can get them tangled in passing planes and get free trips
to anywhere in the world.

_
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> I was hoping someone was going to bring this up. I have had MAJOR
> technical errors when passing and recieving information, particularly
> regarding Mind Control or Government conspiracies. I also accessed a CIA
> affiliated site and was infected with a serious virus.
>
> Can anyone deny or confirm if this is intentional and how it happens
>
> MARK wrote:
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >Today I have emailed a friend of mine details on Mind Control and Remote
> >Viewing.  Since I did this my Laptop has crashed 3 times, and my e-mail
> >is working only sporadically.
> >
> >Has anyone else had any similar experiences after posting Conspiracy
> >Theory related items, or is a just a technical glitch/coincidence??
> >
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