Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-20 Thread uaicvtmb

Bard:

Thanks for the Compliment. I wrote this after reading all "junes", posts and
the rest. Sorry for the Delayed Respose. Have on going problems with the
Email program. People send me Emails without checking with an AntiVirus
Program First !  Keep up the good work your self. Remember, that the Truth
Will out weight the Pontificating Flatulence of the Liberials all the Time.
Happy Easter to you and your family !

Mike
U.A.I.C.-VT.
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-14 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

  nessie wrote:
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
   
If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa.
  
   Jews are an ethnic group. Some Jews are religious. Some aren't. Practicing
   the religion doesn't make one a Jew. Having a Jewish mother does. Really.
   Ask one.
 
  Hey, I'm one.

 One what? A Moron?
 FWP.

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Good one Poley.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-14 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Kelly wrote:

 Bard wrote:
 
  The female who goes to great lengths to enhance her attractiveness does so to 
snare the male.  If her chosen prey is not a Noble person she
  has a dilemma:  succumb to the advances of the male or ward off his desire to 
fornicate, or if she's married not become an adulteress;
  risking physical abuse.  Billions are spent in the cosmetic industry to enable the 
female to seduce the male.  A Noble male is more
  discerning and cares more about the character of the female, rather than her made 
over appearance.
  Regards,
  Bard

 Oh what is the point?  Woman Evil Slut vs. Man Noble.  Yes, these noble
 men start wars and are the vast majority of consumers of porn, and are
 the vast majority of rapists and murderers.  But hey!  That's okay -
 they are noble.

 Kelly

Don't bother Kelly. This guy is a dinosaur. With a brain to match.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites -NOPOST

2000-04-12 Thread pmeares

Kris Millegan wrote:

 I don't really care and this is not the list for this discussion. You had
 been asked. And I ain't got time for this bs.

Not only time... considering the 144+ megs of disk space at l-soft,
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Pro-Life People are Hypocrites", and other "Battling Bickersons
BS", as you aptly call it, seem to run on forever.

As far as the "Battling Bickersons BS" threads that seem to run
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites -NOPOST

2000-04-12 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

 Odd how the most profound

conspiracies posted to CTRL seem to "wither on the vine" so to

speak, and seem to fade away with little or no comment



Like I said, maybe we're victims of a psy-op here. Let's talk about that.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites -NOPOST

2000-04-11 Thread Kris Millegan

I don't really care and this is not the list for this discussion. You had
been asked. And I ain't got time for this bs.

NOPOST.

Om
Kris Millegan

In a message dated 4/10/00 1:33:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Dear Reader:

Is a baby a part of mother in the womb?  Seems this concept is double-
think to me.  Any women out there agree with that?



 Sincerely,



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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-11 Thread Bard

The female who goes to great lengths to enhance her attractiveness does so to snare 
the male.  If her chosen prey is not a Noble person she
has a dilemma:  succumb to the advances of the male or ward off his desire to 
fornicate, or if she's married not become an adulteress;
risking physical abuse.  Billions are spent in the cosmetic industry to enable the 
female to seduce the male.  A Noble male is more
discerning and cares more about the character of the female, rather than her made over 
appearance.
Regards,
Bard

KDS wrote:

 I have to agree, after all the woman can't get pregnant all by herself, there are 2
 parties involved here billy boy!
 barley

 Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

  SEXIST!!!
 
  On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote:
 
   In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Hey Bill,
exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath 
  
   Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business!
   These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of
   freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who
   picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya'
   tell?
   If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no?
   But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is
   anti-American at best...
  
   Peace,
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-11 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

I am anti-abortion and pro-life, meaning that I stand for a Culture of
Life, if it is correctly articulated.
FWP.

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, uaicvtmb wrote:

 Mr. Poley; Whose Side Are You On Anyway? The Feminazi Liberals,
 who push their lesbian - Marxist Propaganda or the with the Silent
 Majority who Like me are Damn sick and Tired of all this Waste of
 Taxpayers Money; [Illegally  collected] All their damn Whinning.

 As someone who has delivered a baby in the back of an ambulance
 and in the back of a patrol car, I can see the Difference between Murder
 and Abortion. Murder is Murder, Abortion is the same no matter how you
 "justify" it with Pontification by Intellectual Flatulence. IT's Still
 Murder for
 Convince. Look at all the Lists of People Waiting for Adoption? NO EXCUSE.

 The Rich Liberal windbags like Hanoi Jane, Rosie "O", Queen Fatifia and
 the rest are selling our countrymen and countrywomen Liberal Propaganda
 that tries to "Justify" their excuses for their pet causes. They along with
 the
 "Clinics" are making money hand over fist. The Looser's are the decent
 people in America, the Sheeple who "watch" those programs put on by the
 Liberal Shill Mindless Propaganda Machine who are Not Unbiased
 and Will Not Allow Opposing Views to "spoil" their Propaganda Machine.
 How would they like it if Someone years ago decided they would be the
 Excess Human Baggage, they would be the "Cannon Fodder" for the Camps
 and Next War.

 I am not a Hypocrite and will stand shoulder to shoulder to Fight for Real
 Justice, Defend America from All enemies both Foreign and Domestic. If
 All the Nay Saying Sob Sisters who didn't like it here Really Saw What Life
 is like in Communist Countries, The Slavery, the Hardships, Starvation,
 Political Murders, etc. They would Swear their Alligence to America and
 Stop Pushing Us Into the New World Order. But alot of them are Intellectual
 Morons, They cannot see that if the NWO Subversives Took Over; they would
 be the First to Go to the Camps, be targeted for Extermination, Because the
 NWO would have no further use for them. If You don't Believe me Look in
 History, Stalin had 50 Million executed for the State. And the "Pol Pot
 Regimue
 in Cambodia - Or do You Forget the Killing Fields in which 3 million People
 were "execuated" by AK47 Toting Communist Propaganda Brainwashed
 "Teenagers". Read Huxleys "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984". I don't
 expect Liberal shills and fellow Disruptor's to Understand. As they Have
 Allready
 Sold Us Out for a Few Pieces of Silver. Save us all the heart ache. Why
 don't
 they All go to Cuba, the Slave Nation State that everyone Tries to escape if
 they want to follow the Propaganda there so much.

Mike
  [U.A,.I.C. - VT.]

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-11 Thread Bard

Mike, Excellent Post!  You bet those baby butchers are raking it in.
Bard

uaicvtmb wrote:

 Mr. Poley; Whose Side Are You On Anyway? The Feminazi Liberals,
 who push their lesbian - Marxist Propaganda or the with the Silent
 Majority who Like me are Damn sick and Tired of all this Waste of
 Taxpayers Money; [Illegally  collected] All their damn Whinning.

 As someone who has delivered a baby in the back of an ambulance
 and in the back of a patrol car, I can see the Difference between Murder
 and Abortion. Murder is Murder, Abortion is the same no matter how you
 "justify" it with Pontification by Intellectual Flatulence. IT's Still
 Murder for
 Convince. Look at all the Lists of People Waiting for Adoption? NO EXCUSE.

 The Rich Liberal windbags like Hanoi Jane, Rosie "O", Queen Fatifia and
 the rest are selling our countrymen and countrywomen Liberal Propaganda
 that tries to "Justify" their excuses for their pet causes. They along with
 the
 "Clinics" are making money hand over fist. The Looser's are the decent
 people in America, the Sheeple who "watch" those programs put on by the
 Liberal Shill Mindless Propaganda Machine who are Not Unbiased
 and Will Not Allow Opposing Views to "spoil" their Propaganda Machine.
 How would they like it if Someone years ago decided they would be the
 Excess Human Baggage, they would be the "Cannon Fodder" for the Camps
 and Next War.

 I am not a Hypocrite and will stand shoulder to shoulder to Fight for Real
 Justice, Defend America from All enemies both Foreign and Domestic. If
 All the Nay Saying Sob Sisters who didn't like it here Really Saw What Life
 is like in Communist Countries, The Slavery, the Hardships, Starvation,
 Political Murders, etc. They would Swear their Alligence to America and
 Stop Pushing Us Into the New World Order. But alot of them are Intellectual
 Morons, They cannot see that if the NWO Subversives Took Over; they would
 be the First to Go to the Camps, be targeted for Extermination, Because the
 NWO would have no further use for them. If You don't Believe me Look in
 History, Stalin had 50 Million executed for the State. And the "Pol Pot
 Regimue
 in Cambodia - Or do You Forget the Killing Fields in which 3 million People
 were "execuated" by AK47 Toting Communist Propaganda Brainwashed
 "Teenagers". Read Huxleys "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984". I don't
 expect Liberal shills and fellow Disruptor's to Understand. As they Have
 Allready
 Sold Us Out for a Few Pieces of Silver. Save us all the heart ache. Why
 don't
 they All go to Cuba, the Slave Nation State that everyone Tries to escape if
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Mike
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-11 Thread Kelly

Bard wrote:

 The female who goes to great lengths to enhance her attractiveness does so to snare 
the male.  If her chosen prey is not a Noble person she
 has a dilemma:  succumb to the advances of the male or ward off his desire to 
fornicate, or if she's married not become an adulteress;
 risking physical abuse.  Billions are spent in the cosmetic industry to enable the 
female to seduce the male.  A Noble male is more
 discerning and cares more about the character of the female, rather than her made 
over appearance.
 Regards,
 Bard

Oh what is the point?  Woman Evil Slut vs. Man Noble.  Yes, these noble
men start wars and are the vast majority of consumers of porn, and are
the vast majority of rapists and murderers.  But hey!  That's okay -
they are noble.

Kelly

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thank you for sharing your grief with us.  Let us all remember that we
 all have sinned and must throw ourselves on the mercy of God. We all
 have fallen natures and it is easy for us fall.  Bernard Natanson who
 sent his girl friend off to Canada for an abortion was an atheistic
 Jewish intern.

 That statement not only smacks of anti-semitism, it makes no sense.  If one is a Jew, 
one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa.

 What does the guy's religion, or lack thereof, have to do with anything?


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Every abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not
 every abortion leads to the death of the mother.  That is logical, isn't
 it?

Only to you.  To some people, an abortion is just getting rid of some fecal tissue, 
not 'the death of something sacred to God'...


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I would say that her choice to abuse alcohol ruined her life, not the fact
 that she had an abortion.

 AA says that something causes people to drink excessively, in this case it
 does seem that her having an abortion was the cause.

If AA says that, they're nuts.

Nothing 'causes' anyone to drink or to abuse drugs.  There are any number of reasons a 
person may give as a COP OUT for becoming
addicted, but it still comes down to the person's choice.  I suspect your friend would 
have become an alcoholic even if she'd never
had an abortion, the abortion is her convenient 'justification' for her decision to 
abuse alcohol.


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Foxter



June,
Doyou think of yourself in 
your mother's womb as fecal tissue? 
Terry


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  Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
  From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every 
  abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not every 
  abortion leads to the death of the mother. That is logical, 
  isn't it?Only to you. To some people, an abortion is 
  just getting rid of some fecal tissue, not 'the death of something sacred to 
  God'...JuneA 


Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Foxter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do you think of yourself in your mother's womb as fecal tissue?

What I think doesn't matter.

What matters is what each woman contemplating abortion thinks, and that each woman has 
a choice.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Don Huffman

June:

He wasn't Catholic.  More importantly he was an atheist then, but be-
cause the abortion cost him his first love there was something about a-
bortion that was to him against human reason. Are you Jewish?  Beware of
the Jewish persecution complex.  I think it is significant that be is a
Christian now and, I believe, is now Catholic.


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Don Huffman

Dear June:

Life human in origin is tissue that is the same as excrement?


 Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 He wasn't Catholic.  More importantly he was an atheist then, but be-
 cause the abortion cost him his first love there was something about a-
 bortion that was to him against human reason. Are you Jewish?  Beware of
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You think that only Jews can perceive blatant antisemitism?


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Don Huffman

June:
 Dr.Nathanson in his book: The Aborting of America, saw fit to share the
fact the he was an atheitic Jew.  Am I miss quoting him?


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 You are talking about objective truth versus subjective truth. If I do
 violece to you; I can say you had it coming.  But the law could say:
 June did nothing to you but say you were wrong and you beat her up. Put
 your hands behind your back...  There are absolutes created by God and
 they are not open to revision.

Whose God?

Are the absolutes of your God more absolute than the absolutes of the 
god/gods/goddesses of some other religion?

All religion is subjective.

Why should your superstition be imposed on the majority, rather than another flavor of 
superstition?


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Don Huffman

June:

Is this logical:  I want to cut my arm off so I can be a successful beg-
gar.  It my arm and... Besides,  I want you to pay for the operation so
I can exercise my right to choose.

Why can't I exercise my right to choose to own you as my slave?  It's in
the bible.


What is truth,?


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Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

You can turn any new city/new village project into a demonstration of your
cultural ideals.
FWP.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

 I'm Canadian, and I've never heard of it, so don't feel to badly :)

 Tara
 (near Ottawa, Ontario)

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 Dear FWP:

 Sorry but you must understand that few Americans know anything about
 what is going on in the great country of Canada.  Culture of Life on
 Vancouver Island?  Please define as I was ignorant.  We get little news
 about Canada here.


Sincerely, a former Canadian from Kennedy, Sask.


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
Let us not forget that when a women dies by any kind of an abortion her
innocent child dies too.



It's NOT a child. It's part of her body.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

I'm certain your are right.  America did keep Sadaam in power.  The

Brits pulled us off him.  That I'm sure.  Britain is our pimp.

See? We agree on something. We probably agree on most things; we human. We
all need to not let hot button issues like abortion, the death penalty,
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have to like each other to unite against common enemies.

let's talk about them instead.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread nessie

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Every abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not

every abortion leads to the death of the mother.  That is logical, isn't

it?


This statement is predicated on the a priori assumption that there is such
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Belief in God is not a product of logic but of faith. Belief in ANYTHING
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Doubt is what is logical. I counted the times I believed and was later
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread nessie

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 If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa.



Jews are an ethnic group. Some Jews are religious. Some aren't. Practicing
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread nessie

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There are any number of reasons a person may give as a COP OUT for
becoming

addicted, but it still comes down to the person's choice



I choose to be addicted to caffiene because it makes me more productive,
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Bob Stokes

I write:

  AA says that something causes people to drink excessively, in this case
it
  does seem that her having an abortion was the cause.

June writes:

 If AA says that, they're nuts.

 Nothing 'causes' anyone to drink or to abuse drugs.  There are any number of
reasons a person may give as a COP OUT for becoming
 addicted, but it still comes down to the person's choice.  I suspect your
friend would have become an alcoholic even if she'd never
 had an abortion, the abortion is her convenient 'justification' for her
decision to abuse alcohol. 

I tend to agree with you that a person makes a decision to overindulge in
drinking, drugs, etc.  I also think that sometimes something causes one to
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desire to get drunk (personal problems).

Regards,
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Don Huffman

Dear Reader:

Is a baby a part of mother in the womb?  Seems this concept is double-
think to me.  Any women out there agree with that?


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Don Huffman

Dear Nessie:

I'm never going to stop crying out against injustice as human reason so
directs.  Abortion is the greatest injustice in the world today.  Yes,
we can agree on many things but I'm not going to ostritch size the pro-
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread uaicvtmb

AFTER "LISTENING TO YOUR OPINIONS ON SEVERAL
OTHER LISTS, A FEW I AM SURE YOU WERE THROWN
OFF OF, MANY OF US ARE DAMN TIRED OF YOUR SELF
INDULGENT PONTIFICATION WITHOUT REAL RESEARCH.

BOY ARE YOU A LIBERAL BONEHEAD? OR WHAT?
NO COMMON SENSE. WHY DON'T YOU GO TAKE A NAP.
THEIR CALLING YOU BACK AT THE HOME. DID YOU TAKE
YOUR LUVOX TODAY DEAR ??? OR FORGET YOUR PMS
[Pretty Mean Syndrome] Medication ???

YOU SUFFER FROM EXCESSIVE INTELLECTIAL FLATULENCE.
AND DON'T KNOW WHEN TO SHUT OFF THE COMPUTER AND
LEAVE OTHERS BE. OR ARE YOU A INTELLECTUAL SADIST?
IF YOU ARE SO DAMN "FONDA JANE" WHY DON'T YOU LIVE
WITH HER. AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE. YOU HAVE
THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT - PLEASE DO SO. HAVE A NICE
DAY.

The Silent Majority on this List Feel the Same Way. !!!
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread uaicvtmb
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<DIV><FONT size=2>That A Girl. GO For the Attack.!!!</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Or Maybe "June" under the Cover</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>of a New "Email Name" Wants to</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>be the "Poster Child for Abortion."?</FONT></DIV>

<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Gee Too Bad June, Where Did you</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>get your Attitude from? Hillary?</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Gloria Steinheim? Bella the Hat?</FONT></DIV>

<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>How Would You Feel If Someone</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Back Then Decided that you should</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>have been an Abortion Statistic? </FONT></DIV>

<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>After Actually Delivering a "Baby"</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Yes that's what "It Was", NOT A</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>FULL TERM FEOTUS - A Baby in</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>the Back of an Ambulance and</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Another in the back of my patrol</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>car - I know the Difference. </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>I guess</FONT><FONT size=2> you have no heart for the 

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Innocient</FONT><FONT size=2> Who Cannot speak for 

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Themselves ???</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>How about Moving to Communist</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>China, North Korea, or Closer to</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Home - Cuba. Why not indeed. That</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>way you can practice what you preach</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>and be an exchange for Elian at the</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Same time. </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>Then, Dear "June" or</FONT><FONT size=2> Whatever name 

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>you go by today -</FONT><FONT size=2>Castro Can Favor You 

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>With His</FONT><FONT size=2> "El Producto" like Klinton Did 

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>to</FONT><FONT size=2> Monica. Or, were they Just Doing 

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT size=2>CPR Practice "June" in the&nbsp;"Oval 

Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

nessie wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 
  If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa.

 Jews are an ethnic group. Some Jews are religious. Some aren't. Practicing
 the religion doesn't make one a Jew. Having a Jewish mother does. Really.
 Ask one.

Hey, I'm one. Actually I'm both.
And you are right of course. But just to clarify a bit further...
One is a Jew if one is born to a Jewish mother and practices the
religion, or self identifies voluntarily, or converts voluntarily.

One is NOT a Jew if one believes in human deities even if one is
born to a Jewish mother and takes on traditional trappings.

For example - William Cohen is not a Jew because his father converted and
he became a Christian and grew up as on. Mad Albright is not a Jew because
her parents converted to Catholicism when she was a child and she denies ever
having been one. Then she converted to Episcopalianism because that's the
brand of choice for the elites in this country.

Hymie Goldberg is not a Jew even though he speaks with Jewish intonations,
wears a taleth, blows the shofar ( not chauffeur )on special occasions, and
sings ditzy little Jewish tunes about the return of Jesus.

I, on the other hand am a Jew because I was born of a Jewish mother and choose
to identify as one even though I don't practice the religion, am not Liberal,
am not a professional, and hate Barbara Streisand.

I hope that helps.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 4/10/00 7:59:42 AM Central Daylight Time,
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 Dear June:

 Life human in origin is tissue that is the same as excrement? 

It's clear Donald that June meant to say "fetal"...clear anyway to those of
us whose mind isn't clouded by delusion and superstitious nonsense.

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 4/10/00 3:42:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 I'm never going to stop crying out against injustice as human reason so
 directs.  Abortion is the greatest injustice in the world today.  

What hyperbolic drivel!
Get another hobby man, it's not your fight...and none of your buisness!

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Don Huffman wrote:

 Dear June:

 Life human in origin is tissue that is the same as excrement?

  Sincerely,

   Don Huffman

You are an insane fool. You beliefs have not only made you nuts, but
also quite stupid.

Pick up a biology book or a medical journal. The bible doesn't cut it on this
subject. It was written 2k years ago, and they didn't have a clue about how
the body and reproduction works.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Don Huffman wrote:

 June:

 He wasn't Catholic.  More importantly he was an atheist then, but be-
 cause the abortion cost him his first love there was something about a-
 bortion that was to him against human reason. Are you Jewish?  Beware of
 the Jewish persecution complex.  I think it is significant that be is a
 Christian now and, I believe, is now Catholic.

I guess that explains it huh?

By the way Don. Did you know that Pope Pius XII pressured the American
Military to remove the Black soldiers from the push on Germany? He didn't
want his beloved Reich defiled by black untermetchen. He also
tried to keep the Americans from sending Black soldiers with the armies
that were moving on Rome.

Hey, I know what, lets make this guy a saint.

Victem of a Jewish persecution complex ( and not Vatican persecution.)

Joshua2


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Bard wrote:

 The subject women have an addiction of power over the male.
 They use their sexual attractiveness to snare, then seduce the male.
 A woman who becomes an alcoholic has learned that alcohol is a means to attract the 
male;  especially if the woman is not physically
 attractive.
 If, in the act intercourse, the woman becomes pregnant, it is of no consequence to 
her to have an abortion;  but merely an inconvenient cost
 of fulfilling her warped desire/addiction to power over the male.
 This type of female would have been most definitely brought up in a dysfunctional 
family;  either a single mom, or a two parent family where
 the female has turned the male into a wimp, with the consequence that the offspring 
has no respect for the Father figure;  the young
 daughter learning how her Mother wraps her Father around her little finger.  In 
cases where the parents are not dysfunctional it is more
 than likely the subject woman would have sustained sexual abuse by an outsider at an 
early age;  sometime the 'loving' Father will sexually
 abuse the young daughter.

 Bard
 http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.html

Is this guy a classic or what???
The world in your head is over Bard.
It's been over for quite a while.
If you feel like an anachronism, it's because you are.
Good riddance.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread KDS

Hey Bill,
exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath
??
well?
barley

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  I'm never going to stop crying out against injustice as human reason so
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 What hyperbolic drivel!
 Get another hobby man, it's not your fight...and none of your buisness!

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 Hey Bill,
 exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath 

Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business!
These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of
freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who
picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya'
tell?
If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no?
But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is
anti-American at best...

Peace,
Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why can't I exercise my right to choose to own you as my slave?  It's in
the bible.

Because the law of land says you can't own slaves here.  Just as the law of
the land ratified a woman's right to choose to have an
abortion or not.

And BTW, those who are TRUE believers spell the holy book with a captital
"B"...


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

SEXIST!!!

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote:

 In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
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  Hey Bill,
  exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath 

 Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business!
 These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of
 freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who
 picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya'
 tell?
 If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no?
 But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is
 anti-American at best...

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread KDS

I have to agree, after all the woman can't get pregnant all by herself, there are 2
parties involved here billy boy!
barley

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 SEXIST!!!

 On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote:

  In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Hey Bill,
   exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath 
 
  Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business!
  These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of
  freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who
  picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya'
  tell?
  If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no?
  But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is
  anti-American at best...
 
  Peace,
  Bill.
 
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

 nessie wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
  
   If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa.
 
  Jews are an ethnic group. Some Jews are religious. Some aren't. Practicing
  the religion doesn't make one a Jew. Having a Jewish mother does. Really.
  Ask one.

 Hey, I'm one.

One what? A Moron?
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread uaicvtmb

Mr. Poley; Whose Side Are You On Anyway? The Feminazi Liberals,
who push their lesbian - Marxist Propaganda or the with the Silent
Majority who Like me are Damn sick and Tired of all this Waste of
Taxpayers Money; [Illegally  collected] All their damn Whinning.

As someone who has delivered a baby in the back of an ambulance
and in the back of a patrol car, I can see the Difference between Murder
and Abortion. Murder is Murder, Abortion is the same no matter how you
"justify" it with Pontification by Intellectual Flatulence. IT's Still
Murder for
Convince. Look at all the Lists of People Waiting for Adoption? NO EXCUSE.

The Rich Liberal windbags like Hanoi Jane, Rosie "O", Queen Fatifia and
the rest are selling our countrymen and countrywomen Liberal Propaganda
that tries to "Justify" their excuses for their pet causes. They along with
the
"Clinics" are making money hand over fist. The Looser's are the decent
people in America, the Sheeple who "watch" those programs put on by the
Liberal Shill Mindless Propaganda Machine who are Not Unbiased
and Will Not Allow Opposing Views to "spoil" their Propaganda Machine.
How would they like it if Someone years ago decided they would be the
Excess Human Baggage, they would be the "Cannon Fodder" for the Camps
and Next War.

I am not a Hypocrite and will stand shoulder to shoulder to Fight for Real
Justice, Defend America from All enemies both Foreign and Domestic. If
All the Nay Saying Sob Sisters who didn't like it here Really Saw What Life
is like in Communist Countries, The Slavery, the Hardships, Starvation,
Political Murders, etc. They would Swear their Alligence to America and
Stop Pushing Us Into the New World Order. But alot of them are Intellectual
Morons, They cannot see that if the NWO Subversives Took Over; they would
be the First to Go to the Camps, be targeted for Extermination, Because the
NWO would have no further use for them. If You don't Believe me Look in
History, Stalin had 50 Million executed for the State. And the "Pol Pot
Regimue
in Cambodia - Or do You Forget the Killing Fields in which 3 million People
were "execuated" by AK47 Toting Communist Propaganda Brainwashed
"Teenagers". Read Huxleys "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984". I don't
expect Liberal shills and fellow Disruptor's to Understand. As they Have
Allready
Sold Us Out for a Few Pieces of Silver. Save us all the heart ache. Why
don't
they All go to Cuba, the Slave Nation State that everyone Tries to escape if
they want to follow the Propaganda there so much.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-10 Thread Tara

Wow! I didn't think that I'd ever agree with you on anything, but this is
way out of hand. I sent in a news article, people called me names. I got
mad. Kris asked ME to stop. I DID! Things like this can destroy a list, and
I don't blame Kris for that. I'm sick of all of the name calling and
insulting of religious beliefs. It's wrong.

I didn't do anything wrong in sending that email, and I won't apologise for
that. I feel like not contributing and just leaving this list. I send one
thing and get days of insults and I'm the only one who gets told to stop.
And I'm the only one who does. And people wonder why others only lurk.
Gee...

To the pro-lifers, you're not going to change the mind of someone til their
heart is changed. To the "pro-choicers" (gagging on the name), you are
certainly not going to change ours. So stop this crap, please.

Tara



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See? We agree on something. We probably agree on most things; we human. We
all need to not let hot button issues like abortion, the death penalty,
and religion in general distract us from our common enemies. We don't even
have to like each other to unite against common enemies.

let's talk about them instead.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 4/8/00 9:12:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I have three good friends who are female and two of them had abortions many
 years ago that affect them now. 


You MAY have had "friends" who terminated pregnancies...but to attribute
mental or social troubles to this fairly benign procedure is assinine...and
to assume that having an abortion MIGHT make a woman weak...or that only weak
women terminate pregnancies..is also irresponsible and foolish.
MOST women who terminate pregnancy do so after hours of thought, often
painful and uncomfortable reflection...but without question their choice is
correct...and for you or anyone else to second-guess them is, at best
armchair quarterbacking...and that's at best...

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Bob Stokes

In a message dated 00-04-09 02:00:44 EDT, Bill writes:

 You MAY have had "friends" who terminated pregnancies...but to attribute
 mental or social troubles to this fairly benign procedure is assinine...and
 to assume that having an abortion MIGHT make a woman weak...or that only weak
 women terminate pregnancies..is also irresponsible and foolish.

You must have skimmed through my post rather quick.  If you notice, it was a
question, not an answer.  I was hoping for a response from someone who had an
abortion, what their thoughts may be.  The point I was making is that to some
people, an abortion is something done without enough thought, that comes back
to haunt them.  It would make more sense to me if all men had vasectomies and
froze their sperm for later in life, should he and his partner decide they
want children, then unwanted pregnancies would be kept to a minimum.

 MOST women who terminate pregnancy do so after hours of thought, often
 painful and uncomfortable reflection...but without question their choice is
 correct...and for you or anyone else to second-guess them is, at best
 armchair quarterbacking...and that's at best... 

I imagine MOST probably put days of thought in to this decision.  Read my
post again, I wasn't second guessing anyone, but relating my own personal
experiences.  Age may also be a factor since these women were all in their
late 30's early 40's.  I would think that a woman who was really comfortable
with her decision would probably be ok with her decision.  17 may be just a
little young to make a decision that could affect you for the rest of your
life.

Any ladies out there that have had an abortion, or know someone who has -
have some light to shed on this subject?  I would appreciate some comments
about whether or not this has come back to haunt them, or didn't make any
difference.

Regards,
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Don Huffman

Nessie:

Let us not forget that when a women dies by any kind of an abortion her
innocent child dies too.  The death of any innocent baby is one too
many?


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Don Huffman

Tara:

I'm certain your are right.  America did keep Sadaam in power.  The
Brits pulled us off him.  That I'm sure.  Britain is our pimp.


 Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Tara

And being Canadian, I must say that America appears to be ours, sadly.

Tara

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Tara:

I'm certain your are right.  America did keep Sadaam in power.  The
Brits pulled us off him.  That I'm sure.  Britain is our pimp.


 Sincerely,



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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Jeff Sandlin

I was involved wth a young woman who decide to have an abortion. I
supported her in the plan. Actually I was relieved. I am still angered
by the incredible lack of support provided to us before and after the
abortion. I was told I would "get over it" before she would. No one
explained to me how much longer it would take me to realize what I had
done, or how callous and selfish I would look to her while hoping it was
all over. Needless to say, it destroyed my relationship with the woman I
hoped to marry. I ws heart broken for years. I know God has forgiven me,
but I still have to live with this every day. I pray  often that she
reallizes God has forgiven her also. Men are victims of abortion too.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Kris Millegan

Tara,

Abortions happen. They happen in nature all the time. God is Good. God is
Great. Why do you limit your perception of the powers of God?

Abortion, homosexuality and racisim are some of the "bullets" chosen by the
conspiracy to be shot into the belly of our body politic to divide us. "They"
do not give a fig about these "sacred" principles. These topics are just
something for the conspiracy to hang the hat on. The are planned dialectics.

Whether as to abortion being "right" or "wrong" is not a topic for this list.

Om
K

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I am not active as I once was. I've realized that the agendas are so

imbedded in our society that even mentioning you are pro life or a Christian

marks you suddenly as someone who should be attacked. That's the deepest

conspiracy of them all. And the one that frightens me most.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about
  protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against
  euthanasia. 

 The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death
 penalty...intellectually inconsistant IMHO.
 I tend to think that anti-choice or anti-abortion are better descriptions...

They also tend to be anti-sex education ("let's keep the kids in the dark about how 
babies are made") and anti-contraceptive ("God
created sex only for procreation, not recreation")...

You are correct, Bill, 'anti-choice' is a better description of them than 'pro-life'...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Don Huffman

Dear Tara:

It is true American imperialism in the American revolution wanted to an-
nex Canada.  That was the first goal of the revolution.  You remember
the Oregon trail which goal it was to get a grudge match going with the
Brits? The war would be fought on two fronts.  Remember 55'40" or fight?
The treaty of Webster-Ashburton defined the D-line in Minnesota and
Maine.  But do American's know, or Canadians for that matter, that the
Brits ("they are good at giving away what they don't own) offered the
America negotiators the ENTIRE geat lakes.  And some more territory as
well.  They said that is not exceptable and what border you see today is
what they demanded.  Was this done to set up a "grudge" match later?

Interestingly, when the border with Mexico was determined the Mexicans
offered us the  Baja Californian penninsula which would have given us
the mouth of the mouth of the Colorado river which would be worth
billions today but the water must be shared.

Do you recall Ponco Villa who the American army alleged was violating
our territory?  The Rio Grande is not a good border and it is obvious to
me that the Americas wanted the mountain range furthur south for the bor
der.  The army advanced far into Mexico and demanded a plenipotentiary
to negotiate but one was not sent and I would think the Brits pulled us
off of the Mexicans.  Look at the map of Africa and you can see how
Rhodes chopped up the continent for divide and conquer.  Same on our
continent.

I believe that our two countries will be one nation as it should have
been before the Revolution.  But when that happens it will be at the
Canadian dictation.  Power moves north to south; civilization from east
to west; mercy from south to north and destruction from west to east.

The pope told us we are going to be a poor country.  You may have little
idea of American companies that are owned or controled by foreigners nor
do most Americans.  The only care where they can get it cheaper.

P.T. Barnum said, "you'll never go broke underestimating the intelligen-
ce of the American public".

I say we can't help it.  Every American is born a fool. And if an alien
becomes a naturalised citizen and gets his little flag to wave, he be-
comes twice the fool forever.


Sincerely,


Don Huffman

P.S.  I couldn't help coming to this country from Canada.  I was only
two years old.  But I really do love my country!



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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Don Huffman

Jeff,

Thank you for sharing your grief with us.  Let us all remember that we
all have sinned and must throw ourselves on the mercy of God. We all
have fallen natures and it is easy for us fall.  Bernard Natanson who
sent his girl friend off to Canada for an abortion was an atheistic
Jewish intern.  Their relationship was never the same.  Eventually, he
ran the largest abortuary in New York.  But even as an ateist, he could
see abortion was against human reason.  Good did come out of evil and
that often happens with God's grace.  His book:  The Aborting of Ameri-
ca.


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I guess you could say that abortion ruined her life.

I would say that her choice to abuse alcohol ruined her life, not the fact that she 
had an abortion.


 Because of these personal experiences I often wonder if an abortion fouls a
 woman's life, or (abortion or not) maybe these other women were just weak.
 Or, does having an abortion make a woman weak, even years after it happens?

Well, I can recount my own experience with women who have had abortions, who did not 
make the decision to have an abortion easily
but nonetheless do not regret making the decision to abort the fetus.  They have gone 
on to have full and fulfilling lives; some
have gone on to have families, some have remained childless by choice (none have 
experienced fertility problems due to the
abortion).  None are alcoholics, neither do they use drugs.  Those who work outside 
the home have no trouble holding on to their
jobs.  Those who are married or are in a committed relationship are happy in those 
relationships, with no greater (or less) problems
than women who have not had abortions.

Perhaps the fact of the matter is, Bob, is that you personally attract weak women to 
you...but that doesn't mean that all women who
have abortions are weak, or are 'made weak' by having an abortion.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Thanks for your observations. We men need to take a stand against abor-
 tion.  The pro-abortion people do not tell the side you have told about
 how abortion affect a women who is created to norish life and not de-
 stoy life.

Ignoring the blatant sexism of that statement (women are no more 'created to norish 
[sic] life and not destoy [sic] life' than men
are), the reason you don't hear the 'pro-abortion' side telling such stories is 
because they are in the minority.  The vast majority
of women who have had abortions go on to lead rich and fulfilling lives.


 They are not telling about the botched abortions that lead
 to sterility or the deaths that have occured.

Just as you don't tell the stories of the thousands who died or became permanently 
sterile after seeking the aid of backstreet
abortionists, when abortion was illegal in most states.

And the fact of the matter is, if you were successful in repealing Roe vs. Wade, you 
would still have legal abortions in those
states who allowed abortions before Roe vs. Wade -- over half the states in the union.


 And there are witnesses
 to the fact that many women have died from "safe, legal" abortions.

How many, as opposed to all those women who died at the hands of backstreet 
abortionists before Roe vs. Wade?  Or all those women
who died via home abortion attempts, with wire coathangers or by drinking poisonous 
substances, or by throwing themselves down from
a great height?


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Any ladies out there that have had an abortion, or know someone who has -
 have some light to shed on this subject?  I would appreciate some comments
 about whether or not this has come back to haunt them, or didn't make any
 difference.

As I pointed out, I know women who have had abortions.  While the decision has not 
come back to 'haunt' them, it could hardly be
categorized as a decision that "didn't make any difference".  It was a decision that 
made a BIG difference in their lives, one that
stays with them to this day.  But it is not a decision that any of them regret having 
made.

BTW, some of them had the abortion when they were very young -- late teens to early 
20s -- others had the abortion later in life
(30s and 40s).  Some were married to the father of the aborted fetus, some were single.


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Bard

Had you truly "hoped to marry" her you would have not inpregnated her outside the 
bonds of marriage.  The very first time you violated a
female or were seduced by the desires of a female you lost your God-given nobility.  
You KNEW it was wrong;  no one had to tell you it was
wrong.  You have been looking for an OUT for your dastardly act.  Shame on You!
And Shame on both of you for having an innocent life terminated.
You say you "know God has forgiven me".  Does that mean you have redeemed your Soul by 
subsequentely not inpregnating any more females
outside the bonds of marriage?

God created the first Adam and the first Eve in a new world and gave them a portion of 
responsibility not to eat the fruit - to remain
sexually pure until maturity at which time they would be blessed in marriage by God 
and they would fulfill the ideal of true love, create a
true family and be the progenitors of a culture of true love. Through their failure to 
do so, their love was corrupted and we have
experienced a history of suffering. God worked through the nation of Israel to prepare 
an environment for Jesus top be born as a second Adam
to accomplish what the first Adam failed to do. But the people that God had prepared 
failed to receive Jesus and therefore, the Bible speaks
of the Second Advent of the Lord. For the past 2000 years, God, Jesus, and the Holy 
Sprit have been working through Christianity to create a
foundation of faith and an environment of freedom in which to finally accomplish his 
goal.

As we have seen, particularly since the Renaissance and the Reformation, God has been 
working to expand his world wide providence. The
discovery of the new world and the history of America as a champion of freedom have 
been of central importance. Just as America could not
successfully establish a foundation for freedom for itself and for the world until the 
"organic sin" of slavery had been removed form the
national constitution, so in order for us to enter the emerging world of true love we 
must deal with the "original sin" of sexual
immorality. This is the reason that we are stressing the idea that married couples 
rededicate their marriages consciously to the ideal of
God, true love, sexual fidelity, and world peace and commit themselves to raise their 
children to be sexually pure. We must be reborn as
sons and daughters of God through true families.



Bard

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being 
mistaken or cease to be honest.



Jeff Sandlin wrote:

 I was involved wth a young woman who decide to have an abortion. I
 supported her in the plan. Actually I was relieved. I am still angered
 by the incredible lack of support provided to us before and after the
 abortion. I was told I would "get over it" before she would. No one
 explained to me how much longer it would take me to realize what I had
 done, or how callous and selfish I would look to her while hoping it was
 all over. Needless to say, it destroyed my relationship with the woman I
 hoped to marry. I ws heart broken for years. I know God has forgiven me,
 but I still have to live with this every day. I pray  often that she
 reallizes God has forgiven her also. Men are victims of abortion too.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Tara wrote:

 Good answer :) What are you talking about? To repeat my original, and as yet
 unanswered question, what has that got to do with non-Catholic prolifers?
 Even atheist prolifers?

 You called me and all other prolifers hypocrites. That was the basis of my
 question. It had nothing to do with "Culture of Whatever".

 Tara

Tara,

You are evidently trying to communicate with Poley. You must s-p-e-a-k v-e-r-y
s-l-o-w-l-y, and write in big letters. Keep your sentences very simple and
clear.

You need to try to bring him off of the " concept " he's focussing on, but be
gentle because what's left of his brain is quite fragile, and can't cope with
more than one deep thaought at a time.

Experienced Poley-file,

Joshua2


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 From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Franklin Wayne Poley
 Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 4:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Ask the Vatican what it has to do with pro-lifers as their front man keeps
 using the expressions "Culture of Life" vs. "Culture of Death" on his
 global sod-kissing expeditions.
 FWP.

 On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

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  /A -Cui Bono?-
 
  What the hell has that got to do with pro-lifers? Not all of us are
  Catholic, nor even Christian, Ken Kesey being one very famous example. But
  any Christian who supports abortion is self-obsessed, not self-professed.
  And God doesn't get fooled.
 
  Tara

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
I believe that the United States government purposely left Sadam in
power. I

believe that they could have taken him at anytime.


They created his power and armed both sides  in the Iran-Iraq war. These
people are pawns Of Anglo-American imperialism. Britain CREATED Iraq
itself as well as Kuwait. What gives Britain the right to say Kuwait is
not part Iraq? Force of arms, nothing more, nothing less. ALL nation
states exist by force of arms. Period.


I don't support the

blocakade of the Iraqi nation. But I do support a blockade of the Iraqui

government.


It's the exact same thing.



They killed more people than have died during the blockades.


So what? Does that make it right that our tax dollars murder half a
million women and children?



Remember the hundreds of thousands of Kurds who were murdered by Sadam.



Remember the Kurds who were killed by British and American bombers during
the Gulf War solely because they were Iraqis?


Children come innocent into this world and no one has the

right to kill them. And in this case there is so much smoke and mirrors by

all of the governments involved and the wonderful U.N. that I don't think
any of us knows where the real blame lies.



If I hired a hit man to kill you, I would be as guilty as he was. Your tax
dollars pay for the blockade of Iraq. What's that make you?



imbedded in our society that even mentioning you are pro life or a
Christian

marks you suddenly as someone who should be attacked.



Maybe that's because Christians have spent the last two thousand years
inflicting their tender mercies on the rest of the world by force. They
stole most of the world's land mass, enslaved whole races and whenever
possible they force the rest of us to practice the tenets of their
religion whether we want to or not. They are the most predatory,
bloodthirsty and avaricious people in all of human history. Nazis, commies
 and Huns don't even come close.

If a woman has an abortion, and because of it "God' condemns her to "Hell"
that's between her and "God." It's none of my business and none of yours
either. If your religion says don't have  abortions, don't have an
abortion. If your religion says don't eat pork, don't eat pork. If your
religion says don't eat beef, don't eat beef. If your religion says don't
screw till you're married, don't screw till you're married. If your
religion says screw as part of your worship service, screw as part of your
worship service. If your religion says harm no animals, harm no animals.
If your religion says draw veves in the floor and sprinkle them with
chicken blood, draw veves on the floor and sprinkle them with chicken
blood.  You have a right to practice your religion. Do WHATEVER your
religion says you are supposed to do, except for one thing. Do NOT try to
force others to to do what YOUR religion says YOU are supposed to do. That
way we can avoid another two thousand years of religious war.



Are you as concerned about the women and children who are being and have

been slaughtered in Yugoslavia because they are Christians as you appear
to

be about those in Iraq?



Of course I am, as I am concerned about the women and children who have
been slaughtered because they were Muslim or Roma. And are you as
concerned about the women, children and men of Yugoslavia who have been
slaughtered with your tax dollars solely because they had the audacity to
defy the will of the NWO?


What are you doing about it?


I'm trying to educate the people around me.



You know what? I've discovered that bitching and complaining about the

agendas are the best any of us can do.


And yet you call this a democracy?



People become very cruel when

they find out you're pro-life or Christian.



You have it coming. You are advocating that the state and not the woman
herself have control over her body. This is exactly and precisely the same
thing as rape.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Tara

I stopped discussing this last night. I only kept on because I was being
called a hypocrite. Thanks :)

I thought that the original post would interest list members, especially
since it involved the U.N. I had no idea that I would be insulted and
attacked for sending it.

Now if Nessie and June will stop... Which doesn't look like it's going to be
happening soon.

Tara

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Tara,

Abortions happen. They happen in nature all the time. God is Good. God is
Great. Why do you limit your perception of the powers of God?

Abortion, homosexuality and racisim are some of the "bullets" chosen by the
conspiracy to be shot into the belly of our body politic to divide us.
"They"
do not give a fig about these "sacred" principles. These topics are just
something for the conspiracy to hang the hat on. The are planned dialectics.

Whether as to abortion being "right" or "wrong" is not a topic for this
list.

Om
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Don Huffman

Dear June:
Every abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not
every abortion leads to the death of the mother.  That is logical, isn't
it?


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Don Huffman

Dear June:
I've never heard a pregnant women say I wonder how my fetus is today.
I'm carring around a fetus.  Fetus vs. baby is doublethink.


Logic 
please,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Bob Stokes

In a message dated 00-04-09 12:45:08 EDT, June writes:

 As I pointed out, I know women who have had abortions.  While the decision
has not come back to 'haunt' them, it could hardly be
 categorized as a decision that "didn't make any difference".  It was a
decision that made a BIG difference in their lives, one that
 stays with them to this day.  But it is not a decision that any of them
regret having made.

 BTW, some of them had the abortion when they were very young -- late teens
to early 20s -- others had the abortion later in life
 (30s and 40s).  Some were married to the father of the aborted fetus, some
were single. 

Thank you, it's good to know that not every one suffers from a decision they
make, I just haven't run in to any of them, probably because they are married.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Bob Stokes

In a message dated 00-04-09 12:31:16 EDT, June writes:

 I would say that her choice to abuse alcohol ruined her life, not the fact
that she had an abortion.

AA says that something causes people to drink excessively, in this case it
does seem that her having an abortion was the cause.  I didn't mean to say
that all women that have abortions become alcoholics.  You have proved they
don't all have problems with their decisions.


  Because of these personal experiences I often wonder if an abortion
fouls a
  woman's life, or (abortion or not) maybe these other women were just weak.
  Or, does having an abortion make a woman weak, even years after it happens?

 Well, I can recount my own experience with women who have had abortions, who
did not make the decision to have an abortion easily
 but nonetheless do not regret making the decision to abort the fetus.  They
have gone on to have full and fulfilling lives; some
 have gone on to have families, some have remained childless by choice (none
have experienced fertility problems due to the
 abortion).  None are alcoholics, neither do they use drugs.  Those who work
outside the home have no trouble holding on to their
 jobs.  Those who are married or are in a committed relationship are happy in
those relationships, with no greater (or less) problems
 than women who have not had abortions.

 Perhaps the fact of the matter is, Bob, is that you personally attract weak
women to you...but that doesn't mean that all women who
 have abortions are weak, or are 'made weak' by having an abortion.

Actually, I don't attract any woman at all.  If you took one look at me you
would know why.  I am a good listener which may be why I have many woman
friends rather than male friends.  I don't like hanging around with the guys.
 Thank you for your insights, I like to hear both sides of an issue.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Bard

The subject women have an addiction of power over the male.
They use their sexual attractiveness to snare, then seduce the male.
A woman who becomes an alcoholic has learned that alcohol is a means to attract the 
male;  especially if the woman is not physically
attractive.
If, in the act intercourse, the woman becomes pregnant, it is of no consequence to her 
to have an abortion;  but merely an inconvenient cost
of fulfilling her warped desire/addiction to power over the male.
This type of female would have been most definitely brought up in a dysfunctional 
family;  either a single mom, or a two parent family where
the female has turned the male into a wimp, with the consequence that the offspring 
has no respect for the Father figure;  the young
daughter learning how her Mother wraps her Father around her little finger.  In cases 
where the parents are not dysfunctional it is more
than likely the subject woman would have sustained sexual abuse by an outsider at an 
early age;  sometime the 'loving' Father will sexually
abuse the young daughter.

Bard
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Bob Stokes wrote:

 In a message dated 00-04-09 12:31:16 EDT, June writes:

  I would say that her choice to abuse alcohol ruined her life, not the fact
 that she had an abortion.

 AA says that something causes people to drink excessively, in this case it
 does seem that her having an abortion was the cause.  I didn't mean to say
 that all women that have abortions become alcoholics.  You have proved they
 don't all have problems with their decisions.

   Because of these personal experiences I often wonder if an abortion
 fouls a
   woman's life, or (abortion or not) maybe these other women were just weak.
   Or, does having an abortion make a woman weak, even years after it happens?

  Well, I can recount my own experience with women who have had abortions, who
 did not make the decision to have an abortion easily
  but nonetheless do not regret making the decision to abort the fetus.  They
 have gone on to have full and fulfilling lives; some
  have gone on to have families, some have remained childless by choice (none
 have experienced fertility problems due to the
  abortion).  None are alcoholics, neither do they use drugs.  Those who work
 outside the home have no trouble holding on to their
  jobs.  Those who are married or are in a committed relationship are happy in
 those relationships, with no greater (or less) problems
  than women who have not had abortions.

  Perhaps the fact of the matter is, Bob, is that you personally attract weak
 women to you...but that doesn't mean that all women who
  have abortions are weak, or are 'made weak' by having an abortion.

 Actually, I don't attract any woman at all.  If you took one look at me you
 would know why.  I am a good listener which may be why I have many woman
 friends rather than male friends.  I don't like hanging around with the guys.
  Thank you for your insights, I like to hear both sides of an issue.

 Regards,
 Bob Stokes

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Re: [CTRL] [apfn] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Bard

Sexual intercourse between a married person and someone who is not his or her mate is 
adultery.  (Ex. 20:14)

Fornication is sex between two unmarried people.  The apostle Paul said this is a sin 
against the body.  He commands Christians to flee
fornication as a sin against self and God, for the believer's body is the temple of 
the Holy Spirit (I Cor.6:18, 19), Paul says that if a
believer takes his body and joins it to a harlot (or someone who is immoral), he is 
joining Jesus Christ to that person (I Cor. 6:15, 16).

It is very important to understand that neither fornicators nor adulterers will enter 
the kingdom of heaven (I Cor. 6:9, 10).

In today's world, the term fornication is rarely used and immorality between unmarried 
people is commonly accepted as a life-style.
But immorality, however commonplace, is a sin that will keep millions of people out of 
heaven, unless they repent.

Insofar as abortion is concerned it is definitely wrong.

It is the taking of a human life, for the Bible shows that life begins at conception.  
God fashions us while we are in our mother's womb
(Ps. 139:13).  The prophet Jeremiah and the apostle Paul were called by God before 
they were born (Jer. 1:5; Gal. 1:15).
John the Baptist leaped in his mother's womb when the voice of Mary, the mother of the 
Lord, was heard (Luke 1:44).  Obviously children in
the womb have spiritual identity.

From the moment of conception there is a progression of development that continues 
through adulthood.  God condemned the Israelites who were
offering their children as sacrifices to the heathen god Molech.  Such children were 
burned up in the fires of sacrifice (Lev. 20:2),
offered to a god of sensuality and convenience.

The same is occurring today, and by acting in this way we are saying that human beings 
are not worth anything.  This is a terrible blot on
our society.

The Bible is not more specific on the matter of abortion because such a practice would 
have been unthinkable to the people of God.

For instance, when Israel was in Egypt, a cruel Pharaoh forced the Israelites to kill 
their newborn babies.  In the Bible this was looked
upon as the height of cruel oppression (Ex. 1:15-22).

The idea of killing their own children would have been anathema to the Hebrews.

All through the Old Testament, women yearned for children.

Children were considered a gift from God.  Women prayed not to be barren. How could a 
righteous woman turn against her own children to
destroy them?

Abortion is not only unthinkable, it is also the height of pagan barbarity.

Blessings of Abundance and Health in all things Good.

ho tolmoon ti paralassein toon gegrammenoon ap' argees, ouk en hodoo aleetheias 
histatai.

He who attempts to alter any part of the Scriptures, from indolence
or incapacity, stands not in the path of Truth.

Epiphanius Against Heresies, Book I.

Bard




Troy Heagy wrote:

 Had you truly "hoped to marry" her you would have not inpregnated her
 outside the bonds of marriage.  The very first time you violated a
 female or were seduced by the desires of a female you lost your God-given
 nobility.  ...

 Bullshit.

 If God had not meant men and women to have sex, why did he give us the
 equipment?  Why did he give us the attraction for one another?

 Troy

 P.S. Before someone claims I have no right to post to these various lists...
 well... I didn't ask to be sent this message either.

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Re: [CTRL] [apfn] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-09 Thread Kris Millegan

Bard,  appreciate your scriptorial abilities but then these become matters of
faith, belief and the supernatural. These are not the basis of fact, and IMHO
pauline doctrine is heresy and false.

But that is nether here nor there. This is not a "witness" list and there is
IMHO many valid interpretations of scripture, some cited, especially old
testament, that gives validity to abortion and a woman's choice.

If you care to talk about religiousity and its use in conspiracy; or how
abortion is used to divide people. or some other aspect along logical lines.
But faiths and beliefs would best be left to one's personal closet with God.
And are off-topic for this list. Thank-you.

And what do you do with the "pagans?" Kill 'em? Enslave 'em? Take their land?
Declare their religions invalid? Are you superior? If so, why?

MHO
OM
K


In a message dated 4/9/00 6:37:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sexual intercourse between a married person and someone who is not his
or her mate is adultery.  (Ex. 20:14)

Fornication is sex between two unmarried people.  The apostle Paul said
this is a sin against the body.  He commands Christians to flee
fornication as a sin against self and God, for the believer's body is the
temple of the Holy Spirit (I Cor.6:18, 19), Paul says that if a
believer takes his body and joins it to a harlot (or someone who is immoral),
he is joining Jesus Christ to that person (I Cor. 6:15, 16).

It is very important to understand that neither fornicators nor adulterers
will enter the kingdom of heaven (I Cor. 6:9, 10).

In today's world, the term fornication is rarely used and immorality between
unmarried people is commonly accepted as a life-style.
But immorality, however commonplace, is a sin that will keep millions of
people out of heaven, unless they repent.

Insofar as abortion is concerned it is definitely wrong.

It is the taking of a human life, for the Bible shows that life begins
at conception.  God fashions us while we are in our mother's womb
(Ps. 139:13).  The prophet Jeremiah and the apostle Paul were called by
God before they were born (Jer. 1:5; Gal. 1:15).
John the Baptist leaped in his mother's womb when the voice of Mary, the
mother of the Lord, was heard (Luke 1:44).  Obviously children in
the womb have spiritual identity.

From the moment of conception there is a progression of development that
continues through adulthood.  God condemned the Israelites who were
offering their children as sacrifices to the heathen god Molech.  Such
children were burned up in the fires of sacrifice (Lev. 20:2),
offered to a god of sensuality and convenience.

The same is occurring today, and by acting in this way we are saying that
human beings are not worth anything.  This is a terrible blot on
our society.

The Bible is not more specific on the matter of abortion because such a
practice would have been unthinkable to the people of God.

For instance, when Israel was in Egypt, a cruel Pharaoh forced the Israelites
to kill their newborn babies.  In the Bible this was looked
upon as the height of cruel oppression (Ex. 1:15-22).

The idea of killing their own children would have been anathema to the
Hebrews.

All through the Old Testament, women yearned for children.

Children were considered a gift from God.  Women prayed not to be barren.
How could a righteous woman turn against her own children to
destroy them?

Abortion is not only unthinkable, it is also the height of pagan barbarity.

Blessings of Abundance and Health in all things Good.

ho tolmoon ti paralassein toon gegrammenoon ap' argees, ouk en hodoo
aleetheias
histatai.

He who attempts to alter any part of the Scriptures, from indolence
or incapacity, stands not in the path of Truth.

Epiphanius Against Heresies, Book I.

Bard
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Tara

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What the hell has that got to do with pro-lifers? Not all of us are
Catholic, nor even Christian, Ken Kesey being one very famous example. But
any Christian who supports abortion is self-obsessed, not self-professed.
And God doesn't get fooled.

Tara

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Truth is truth whether one is a self-professed Christian or not. I agree
with her that pro-lifers are hypocrites. If Vatican for example knows
what a "Culture of Life" is like, why doesn't it tell the world?
FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Bard

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/A -Cui Bono?-

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me someone told me Hanoi Jane has been 
married three times.
Isn't this being a hyprocrite of the Vows of Marriage?
Bard

"There is more beauty in truth, even if it is a dreadful
  beauty. The storytellers at the city gate twist life so that it
  looks sweet to the lazy and the stupid and the weak, and this
  only strengthens their infirmities and teaches nothing, cures
  nothing, nor does it let the heart soar."
 John Steinbeck

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Don Huffman wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
  /A -Cui Bono?-
 
  Dear FWP:
 
  Telling what the Culture of Life is is what the Catholic Church has been
  doing for 2000 years.

 CULTURE is a scientific word. When the Catholic Church stops speaking as
 loosely about this as a drunk in a beer parlour I will believe you. So
 tell us what "Bamberton", the model city built anew on Vancouver Island
 would be like if it were designed according to the principles of a
 "Culture of Life". (Bamberton and surroundings).

   Haven't other churches of God been doing the
  same? Are you generalizing when you say all pro-lifers are hypocrites?

 Find one who is eager to articulate and then build that Culture of Life
 and I will retract. Until then it applies to all I have encountered.
 Should be a snap for people who have been in communion with Those who
 created billions of stars x billions of galaxies for 2000 years to tell
 the people of BC how to build one small city and surroundings.
 FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Tara

Good answer :) What are you talking about? To repeat my original, and as yet
unanswered question, what has that got to do with non-Catholic prolifers?
Even atheist prolifers?

You called me and all other prolifers hypocrites. That was the basis of my
question. It had nothing to do with "Culture of Whatever".

Tara

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Ask the Vatican what it has to do with pro-lifers as their front man keeps
using the expressions "Culture of Life" vs. "Culture of Death" on his
global sod-kissing expeditions.
FWP.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 What the hell has that got to do with pro-lifers? Not all of us are
 Catholic, nor even Christian, Ken Kesey being one very famous example. But
 any Christian who supports abortion is self-obsessed, not self-professed.
 And God doesn't get fooled.

 Tara

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

Pro-lifers will tell you there is a "life ethic", ie this is not just an
anti-abortion movement and that quote from Deuteronomy makes it clear as
they so often cite it. "I have set before you life and death" You know
the one. So what is this broad and pervasive life ethic and its
manifestation in a Culture of Life. Otherwise stop calling this a pro-life
movement. It is just anti-abortion. Period. So maybe it is just a bunch of
deceitful people we are talking about and not "hypocrites". YOU choose.
FWP.


On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

 Good answer :) What are you talking about? To repeat my original, and as yet
 unanswered question, what has that got to do with non-Catholic prolifers?
 Even atheist prolifers?

 You called me and all other prolifers hypocrites. That was the basis of my
 question. It had nothing to do with "Culture of Whatever".

 Tara

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 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Ask the Vatican what it has to do with pro-lifers as their front man keeps
 using the expressions "Culture of Life" vs. "Culture of Death" on his
 global sod-kissing expeditions.
 FWP.

 On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
  /A -Cui Bono?-
 
  What the hell has that got to do with pro-lifers? Not all of us are
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Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Don Huffman

Dear FWP:

Sorry but you must understand that few Americans know anything about
what is going on in the great country of Canada.  Culture of Life on
Vancouver Island?  Please define as I was ignorant.  We get little news
about Canada here.


   Sincerely, a former Canadian from Kennedy, Sask.


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Tara

The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about
protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against
euthanasia.

And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are
Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too
intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught
up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and
the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like
a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf.

And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me
anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the
'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we
could reach one.

Tara

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Pro-lifers will tell you there is a "life ethic", ie this is not just an
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they so often cite it. "I have set before you life and death" You know
the one. So what is this broad and pervasive life ethic and its
manifestation in a Culture of Life. Otherwise stop calling this a pro-life
movement. It is just anti-abortion. Period. So maybe it is just a bunch of
deceitful people we are talking about and not "hypocrites". YOU choose.
FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Tara

I'm Canadian, and I've never heard of it, so don't feel to badly :)

Tara
(near Ottawa, Ontario)

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Dear FWP:

Sorry but you must understand that few Americans know anything about
what is going on in the great country of Canada.  Culture of Life on
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about Canada here.


   Sincerely, a former Canadian from Kennedy, Sask.


Don Huffman





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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

 The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about
 protecting life from conception until natural death.

"Protecting" means what? Just keeping people alive?
FWP.


 We are active against
 euthanasia.

 And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are
 Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too
 intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught
 up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and
 the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like
 a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf.

 And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me
 anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the
 'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we
 could reach one.

 Tara

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 Pro-lifers will tell you there is a "life ethic", ie this is not just an
 anti-abortion movement and that quote from Deuteronomy makes it clear as
 they so often cite it. "I have set before you life and death" You know
 the one. So what is this broad and pervasive life ethic and its
 manifestation in a Culture of Life. Otherwise stop calling this a pro-life
 movement. It is just anti-abortion. Period. So maybe it is just a bunch of
 deceitful people we are talking about and not "hypocrites". YOU choose.
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 4/8/00 7:58:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about
 protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against
 euthanasia. 

The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death
penalty...intellectually inconsistant IMHO.
I tend to think that anti-choice or anti-abortion are better descriptions...

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Tara

pro-tect , v.t. to shield from harm; guard; shelter; a, a lightning-rod
protects a building against fire from lightning.--adj. pro-tec-tive.--n.
pro-tec-tor

Apply that to lfe and that's what it means.

You're always sidetracking from the point of my answers and questions. You
called all prolifers hypocrites. That's what we were discussing.

To refresh your memory:

And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are
Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too
intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught
up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and
the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like
a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf.

And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me
anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the
'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we
could reach one.

Tara

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On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

 The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about
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"Protecting" means what? Just keeping people alive?
FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread nessie

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about

protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against

euthanasia.

Are you equally active against the blockade of Iraq which has killed over
a half million people so far, almost all of them women and children?  If
not, you're a hypocrite.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

Maybe I'll retract and call you simple deceivers (more polite than liars).
So all you want to do is protect people in the sense of keep the vital
signs going. NO WONDER THE ABORTION RATE IS SO HIGH!! Who would want to
bring a child into your world with no notion of QUALITY of Life. YOU are
the cause of the abortion industry. Hanoi Jane was right.
FWP.

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

 pro-tect , v.t. to shield from harm; guard; shelter; a, a lightning-rod
 protects a building against fire from lightning.--adj. pro-tec-tive.--n.
 pro-tec-tor

 Apply that to lfe and that's what it means.

 You're always sidetracking from the point of my answers and questions. You
 called all prolifers hypocrites. That's what we were discussing.

 To refresh your memory:

 And as I have mentioned before, 3 times actually, not all pro-lifers are
 Christian. Many are atheists, or members of other faiths. You seem too
 intelligent to so broadly rationalize. Could it be that you have been caught
 up by the conspiracy fostered by Sayer, to provide abortion to the poor and
 the non-white population, in order to cut their numbers. Mmmm... sounds like
 a plan I heard about that started in Germany with a man named Adolf.

 And if we're hypocrites because what we call ourselves, fine. Call me
 anti-abortion and anti-euthanasia. But then you have to agree to call the
 'pro-choicers' anti-life or pro-abortion. Wow, a nice compromise :) Glad we
 could reach one.

 Tara

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 On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote:

  The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about
  protecting life from conception until natural death.

 "Protecting" means what? Just keeping people alive?
 FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote:

 In a message dated 4/8/00 7:58:52 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  The reason we are called prolife is because we are concerned about
  protecting life from conception until natural death. We are active against
  euthanasia. 

 The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death
 penalty...intellectually inconsistant IMHO.
 I tend to think that anti-choice or anti-abortion are better descriptions...

So they aren't even pro-life in the narrow sense of anti-killing. And when
you ask them what their life ethic translates into by way of a lifestyle
they flee like cockraoches before the light. You have to attend a lot of
church services to acquire a mentality like that.
FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Bob Stokes

Perhaps there is something that many people do not understand, something I
have only come to understand in the past couple of years, the human side of
this political argument.

I have three good friends who are female and two of them had abortions many
years ago that affect them now.

One is a devout athiest (if you can be devout) and had an abortion when she
was 17 years old.  She didn't think much about it until she married and had
her first child.  Since then she has been troubled by this abortion.  She
feels as if she is a murderer and although she went to a counselor for
several years, she can't seem to shake that feeling.  She turned to alcohol
to ease her pain.  Her husband divorced her and although her children are now
adults, they don't speak to her.  I guess you could say that abortion ruined
her life.  She can't keep a job, she really hates herself.  I've talked to
her literally hundreds of times and this is always on her mind.  I've also
wondered if she would have had a problem with this if there weren't so much
publicity about it.

Another lady I know had an abortion when she was in her early twenties.  She
was in college and wanted to finish, thought it would be too hard if she had
to take care of a baby.  She married in her mid-thirties and wanted to raise
a family.  She couldn't get pregnant and finally went to the Doctor and found
she couldn't have children because the abortion she had ten years or so
earlier had not been performed correctly.  Until then she didn't know
anything was wrong.  She divorced her husband, thinking he deserved a family,
and that she couldn't please him.  When I met her she was going to therapy.
She had trouble holding a job, at least a good one.  Rather than using her
marketing degree, she was working in an electronics assembly plant.  Last
time I saw her she was beginning to drink more than normal and I heard from
her she was still depressed and was having a hard time finding and keeping a
job.

Another friend of mine admitted that she got pregnant when she was 15.  She
married the guy that got her pregnant, then divorced him six weeks later when
he beat her so bad she had to spend a couple of days in the hospital.  I got
that feeling that she was also going to be a loser, but she still seemed
normal after we went out together for over three months.  She finally invited
me to her home.  She introduced me to her two sons and we played a little
baseball till it got dark.  Later that night a young lady came in the house
and my girlfriend introduced her as her daughter.  I was very surprised,
apparently she didn't get an abortion, I just assumed she did since she was
so young and her "husband" was such an asshole.  She was the most "together"
lady I had ever met.  She later told me it was hard going to high school
after having the baby, not to mention finding someone that wanted to date her
at that age, but she came through all this adversity smelling like a rose.

Because of these personal experiences I often wonder if an abortion fouls a
woman's life, or (abortion or not) maybe these other women were just weak.
Or, does having an abortion make a woman weak, even years after it happens?

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Don Huffman

Dear Bob:

Thanks for your observations. We men need to take a stand against abor-
tion.  The pro-abortion people do not tell the side you have told about
how abortion affect a women who is created to norish life and not de-
stoy life.  They are not telling about the botched abortions that lead
to sterility or the deaths that have occured.  And there are witnesses
to the fact that many women have died from "safe, legal" abortions.  Any
one out there see and hear Sara Smith, a surviver of an aborted twin
pour out how she knew something was wrong and how her mother suffered
from the guilt?

Men let us not deceive ourselves.  Men want abortion mostly to get out
of the consequences of their actions.


 Sincerely,


 Don Huffman

Bob, thank you indeed!  And let us be merciful to women who have had
abortions.  Let them know that whatever we do God will forgive us no
matter what we do if we are sorry.  Jesus most certainly would have for-
given Judas if he would have repented.  I think these women you wrote
about have hung on the cross enough and should turn this matter over to
God's infinite mercy!


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Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Don Huffman

Dear Tara:

Kennedy, Saskatchewan is 14 miles south east of Kipling. "True places
are never on the map". Herman Melvill.

Birthplace: Sec. 20, Tp. 13, Rge. 3, W. 2

Thanks for your reply!


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Tara

I believe that the United States government purposely left Sadam in power. I
believe that they could have taken him at anytime. I don't support the
blocakade of the Iraqi nation. But I do support a blockade of the Iraqui
government. They killed more people than have died during the blockades.
Remember the hundreds of thousands of Kurds who were murdered by Sadam. Some
questions have no true answers. Yours is one of them. I guess the best I
could give is no. Children come innocent into this world and no one has the
right to kill them. And in this case there is so much smoke and mirrors by
all of the governments involved and the wonderful U.N. that I don't think
any of us knows where the real blame lies.

I am not active as I once was. I've realized that the agendas are so
imbedded in our society that even mentioning you are pro life or a Christian
marks you suddenly as someone who should be attacked. That's the deepest
conspiracy of them all. And the one that frightens me most.

Are you as concerned about the women and children who are being and have
been slaughtered in Yugoslavia because they are Christians as you appear to
be about those in Iraq? What are you doing about it?

You know what? I've discovered that bitching and complaining about the
agendas are the best any of us can do. And we watch the world become more
blinded to the truth, and we every day become bigger targets.

And so I guess that we're all pretty useless then. But I pray that what I
know, will always be what I know, and that I won't become part of the
conspiracy. And I'll always stand up and speak for what I believe, no matter
what little good it does.

I'm not a hypocrite and I'm tired of being insulted because of my beliefs. I
do the best I can. And that's all anyone can ask.

And I'm not going to discuss abortion anymore. People become very cruel when
they find out you're pro-life or Christian. This list has pointed that out
to me very clearly. The only reasonable responses against my position have
come from Bill Shannon. At least he hasn't insisted on name-calling. But
tough. It's what I believe and you're not going to change that.

Tara

nessie wrote:
Are you equally active against the blockade of Iraq which has killed over
a half million people so far, almost all of them women and children?  If
not, you're a hypocrite.

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
Maybe I'll retract and call you simple deceivers (more polite than liars).
So all you want to do is protect people in the sense of keep the vital
signs going. NO WONDER THE ABORTION RATE IS SO HIGH!! Who would want to
bring a child into your world with no notion of QUALITY of Life. YOU are
the cause of the abortion industry. Hanoi Jane was right.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-08 Thread Tara

So then, call me anti-abortion. But then you have to agree to call the
opposing side pro-abortion. It only makes sense.

A rose, by any other name would smell as sweet :)

Tara

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The rub Tara is that most self-professed "pro-lifers" are also pro-death
penalty...intellectually inconsistant IMHO.
I tend to think that anti-choice or anti-abortion are better descriptions...

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Foxter



So much for her being a born 
again Christian, a rumor heard a few months ago when she left Ted.



Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Well there's being a born again Christian and being practical and never
the twain shall meet. Ted probably convinced her we are overpopulated as
he said when the Applewhite suicides occured that we had too much
population.

All one has to do to be a Christian is to live the way of simplicity and
to focus on the inner life and overcoming one's evil plus treating
others kindly. But first accepting Jesus as a help to reaching God. If
people think they can do it alone fine, but its a dangerous universe and
we have millions of years of inherited and past life bad habits to
transmute. I'm happy to have a leg up. I was trained as an occultist and
then faced the forces of evil and I'm staying right by my Protector
forever now. Praise the Lord I'm almost humble now - Prefer Mother
Teresa as an ideal than Dion Fortune. May be a better afterlife eh?
Josh wouldn't agree with this ;^)
Nicky

 Foxter wrote:

 So much for her being a born again Christian, a rumor heard a few
 months ago when she left Ted.


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Tara:

Jane Fonda should easily find that contraception alwaya leads to its log
ical conclusion: abortion.  It is ALWAYS true.  In every country and in
all ages.


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Nicola Molloy wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Well there's being a born again Christian and being practical and never
 the twain shall meet. Ted probably convinced her we are overpopulated as
 he said when the Applewhite suicides occured that we had too much
 population.

 All one has to do to be a Christian is to live the way of simplicity and
 to focus on the inner life and overcoming one's evil plus treating
 others kindly. But first accepting Jesus as a help to reaching God. If
 people think they can do it alone fine, but its a dangerous universe and
 we have millions of years of inherited and past life bad habits to
 transmute. I'm happy to have a leg up. I was trained as an occultist and
 then faced the forces of evil and I'm staying right by my Protector
 forever now. Praise the Lord I'm almost humble now - Prefer Mother
 Teresa as an ideal than Dion Fortune. May be a better afterlife eh?
 Josh wouldn't agree with this ;^)
 Nicky

  Foxter wrote:
 
  So much for her being a born again Christian, a rumor heard a few
  months ago when she left Ted.
 

I guess you are right. She is still showing signs of brain activity.
A sure sign that it didn't " take."

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Foxter wrote:

 So much for her being a born again Christian, a rumor heard a few months ago when 
she left Ted.


Truth is truth whether one is a self-professed Christian or not. I agree
with her that pro-lifers are hypocrites. If Vatican for example knows
what a "Culture of Life" is like, why doesn't it tell the world?
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear FWP:

Telling what the Culture of Life is is what the Catholic Church has been
doing for 2000 years.  Haven't other churches of God been doing the
same? Are you generalizing when you say all pro-lifers are hypocrites?



Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 4/7/00 7:46:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 Truth is truth whether one is a self-professed Christian or not.  

Truth is that I, Bill Shannon, would DECREE that a woman's RIGHT to CHOOSE
extend to the 10th monthgive prospective parents a "one-month grace
period"...LOL

And BTW, a woman's RIGHT to CHOOSE is MY "litmus test"...we can bargain on
the 10th month thing...But IMHO, pro-choice=pro-American! And the rest of you
can preach your superstitious nonsense and paraphysical pablum all you
want...the FACT remains that, by OVERWHELMING margins the American people
believe with the fact that personal freedom extends to the womb...of the BORN!

Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Don Huffman wrote:

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 Dear FWP:

 Telling what the Culture of Life is is what the Catholic Church has been
 doing for 2000 years.

CULTURE is a scientific word. When the Catholic Church stops speaking as
loosely about this as a drunk in a beer parlour I will believe you. So
tell us what "Bamberton", the model city built anew on Vancouver Island
would be like if it were designed according to the principles of a
"Culture of Life". (Bamberton and surroundings).

  Haven't other churches of God been doing the
 same? Are you generalizing when you say all pro-lifers are hypocrites?

Find one who is eager to articulate and then build that Culture of Life
and I will retract. Until then it applies to all I have encountered.
Should be a snap for people who have been in communion with Those who
created billions of stars x billions of galaxies for 2000 years to tell
the people of BC how to build one small city and surroundings.
FWP.


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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites

2000-04-07 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Well Bill,

 All I can say is hang the romance, people should sign a form stating
what exactly should be done with the kid should one appear from the
union.Then start the action. I recommend everyone watch the movie
Gattica about having kids.
In fact men should wear a label with their DNA problems just to be even
more practical and the woman can give any impending fling a really good
think. Having weighed up the pros and cons it may not seem like a good
idea after all and then we could have no abortions.

Nicky




William Shannon wrote:

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 /A -Cui Bono?-

 In a message dated 4/7/00 7:46:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Truth is truth whether one is a self-professed Christian or not.  

 Truth is that I, Bill Shannon, would DECREE that a woman's RIGHT to CHOOSE
 extend to the 10th monthgive prospective parents a "one-month grace
 period"...LOL

 And BTW, a woman's RIGHT to CHOOSE is MY "litmus test"...we can bargain on
 the 10th month thing...But IMHO, pro-choice=pro-American! And the rest of you
 can preach your superstitious nonsense and paraphysical pablum all you
 want...the FACT remains that, by OVERWHELMING margins the American people
 believe with the fact that personal freedom extends to the womb...of the BORN!

 Bill.



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