U.S. Military Uses the Force
[[I wonder if a similar techique can be used against bullets for personal armor or home defense.] From Wired News -- http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54641,00.htmlhttp://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,54641,00.html U.S. Military Uses the Force By Noah Shachtman One of the most dangerous and pervasive threats facing American and British troops in combat zones is a primitive grenade launcher that only sets your typical terrorist back about $10. The Anglo-American defense against this no-tech threat: an electrical force field that's costing hundreds of millions of dollars to develop. Fitted on light armored vehicles such as personnel carriers, the force field uses a series of charged metal plates to dissipate the effects of rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), a weapon found by the thousands from Mogadishu to Kabul to Baghdad. ... Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com
Revised View of 2nd Amendment Is Cited as Defense in Gun Cases
Scores of criminal defendants around the nation have asked federal courts to dismiss gun charges against them based on the Justice Department's recently revised position on the scope of the Second Amendment. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/23/national/23GUNS.html?tntemail1 Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
CPs just talk about AP...
Gambling Ghouls Guess When a Nuclear Weapon Is Detonated and Win Fabulous Prizes! Death pools a ghoulish twist on college basketball tournament pools are nothing new to the Internet. Participants typically throw a few dollars into a pot and guess when various newsmakers will die for cash prizes and bragging rights. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/WolfFiles/wolffiles225.html Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
DNA databases to be classified
Scientists build polio virus from scratch Scientists have built the virus that causes polio from scratch in the lab, using nothing more than genetic sequence information from public databases and readily available technology. The feat proves that even if all the polio virus in the world were destroyed, it would be easily possible to resurrect the crippling disease. It also raises the worrying possibility that bioterrorists could use a similar approach to create devastating diseases such as ebola and smallpox without having to gain access to protected viral stocks. To read the full story go to: http://www.prq0.com/apps/redir.asp?link=XbdfjjdiDI,ZbccecfhcaCFoid=UcjjbCBiclitemid=XbdijfjaDFtid=WbbcaffBE Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Re: Rant: The U.S. facing the largest financial collapse ever
On Thursday 11 July 2002 13:32, Tim May wrote: (Regarding SS and other USG liabilities) Charge it...some future generation will pay. At 02:25 PM 7/11/2002 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: I hope not. Addressing only the SS issue and not other USG debt, I'm attempting to organize a nation-wide grassroots movement. On a to-be-announced F-day, every member of the movement will kill a designated old fart, one who has long since taken back out of SS anything s/he put into the system and is now subsisting solely on SS checks and other welfare. Bonus points for killing an old fart who has taken much more out of the system than he put in and yet was loudly agitating for an increase in benefits to help the greatest generation, who gave so much for their country. Old farts who are still working or who are living on saved assets are exempt. Wrong target. Suggest you rename it L-day for federal Legislator Day. Members should consider themselves patriots in the true sense. Since not many citizens are so ideological, I suggest a voluntary redistribution of wealth from the ideological to the families of those patriots who take up the challenge. Likely participants may be those who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness and have not been economically fortunate (or wasteful enough) to leave their families a meaningful inheretance. The sooner the redistribution stops the sooner the economic health of the nation will improve. Loading up the nation with debt and leaving it for the following generations to pay is morally irresponsible. Excessive debt is a means by which governments oppress the people and waste their substance. No nation has a right to contract debt for periods longer than the majority contracting it can expect to live. I sincerely believe... that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale. --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:23 Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Re: Rant: The U.S. facing the largest financial collapse ever
On Thursday 11 July 2002 13:32, Tim May wrote: (Regarding SS and other USG liabilities) Charge it...some future generation will pay. At 02:25 PM 7/11/2002 -0400, Steve Furlong wrote: I hope not. Addressing only the SS issue and not other USG debt, I'm attempting to organize a nation-wide grassroots movement. On a to-be-announced F-day, every member of the movement will kill a designated old fart, one who has long since taken back out of SS anything s/he put into the system and is now subsisting solely on SS checks and other welfare. Bonus points for killing an old fart who has taken much more out of the system than he put in and yet was loudly agitating for an increase in benefits to help the greatest generation, who gave so much for their country. Old farts who are still working or who are living on saved assets are exempt. Wrong target. Suggest you rename it L-day for federal Legislator Day. Members should consider themselves patriots in the true sense. Since not many citizens are so ideological, I suggest a voluntary redistribution of wealth from the ideological to the families of those patriots who take up the challenge. Likely participants may be those who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness and have not been economically fortunate (or wasteful enough) to leave their families a meaningful inheretance. The sooner the redistribution stops the sooner the economic health of the nation will improve. Loading up the nation with debt and leaving it for the following generations to pay is morally irresponsible. Excessive debt is a means by which governments oppress the people and waste their substance. No nation has a right to contract debt for periods longer than the majority contracting it can expect to live. I sincerely believe... that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale. --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:23 Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Re: Top 10 police database abuses (pointer)
At 09:58 AM 6/14/2002 -0400, Adam Shostack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.techtv.com/cybercrime/privacy/story/0,23008,3387549,00.html Law enforcement officers are supposed to protect and serve, but some corrupt cops misuse police databases to get dates and more Tuesday, 6/11 at 9 p.m. Eastern on 'CyberCrime.' Your address, telephone number, Social Security number, date of birth, criminal record -- all this information and more can be accessed by police officers if they have basic information about you. Not surprisingly, some cops abuse their privilege and use their database access for less-than-honorable reasons. This week on CyberCrime we show you how some corrupt cops used police databases to harass exes and even get telephone numbers of pretty girls they see in cars. Good reasons for average citizens to obtain and use alternate identification. Looks like we all need to play Spy Games if we want to control access to our personal information. Communicate in total privacy. Get your free encrypted email at https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Why asymmetrical warefare practitioners have nothing to fear
[An edited copy of Who Let the Terrorists Succeed? http://www.msnbc.com/news/758330.asp] The now-famous memo Minneapolis agent Coleen Rowley sent to Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, now widely known as the Federal Bureau of Incompetence. The May 21, 2002 memo, obtained by Time, is one scary document. It suggests [SURPRISE!] that we have a bunch of time-servers protecting our security, which no one is in charge of anything. If any of this changed after September 11, Rowley, a highly regarded veteran of the bureau, does not say so. Without mentioning names, Rowley basically fingers a mid-level FBI supervisory agent in the Hoover Building (in Washington) named Dave Frasca, who was supposed to be running the task force on religious fanatics. After the Minneapolis office took flight-student and hijacker-wannabe Zacarias Moussaoui into custody and obtained intelligence from the French indicating that he had terrorist ties, alert Minnesota agents didnt just passively push the case up the chain of command. They became, in Rowleys words, desperate to search his computer laptop. So desperate that they risked the wrath of higher ups by committing a real pre-9-11 no-no: contacting the CIA. Headquarters personnel didnt just deny the request to probe Moussaoui further. Even though they were privy to many more sources of intelligence information than field agents, as Rowley plaintively put it, they continued to, almost inexplicably, throw up roadblocks and undermine Minneapolis by-now desperate attempts to obtain a search warrant. Because Frascas not commenting publicly, we havent heard the other side of the story. But as anyone who has ever worked in an office knows, HQ always has its own take on events, and sometimes its even right. In this case a federal judge in Washington, Royce C. Lambreth, grew annoyed at the poor documentation involved in requests from federal prosecutors for search warrants and wiretaps. One prosecutor so angered Lambreth that he was actually barred from seeking any more approvals from judges, a move that sent a chilling career message down through the ranks of the Justice Department. So Frasca, knowing which way the wind was blowing in Washington, wasnt just going to rubber stamp the Minneapolis request. [Does this mean the complaints by civil libertarians that FESA were being heard?] Moreover, the very fact that HQ is, in Rowleys words, privy to many more sources of intelligence is actually a hindrance, not necessarily a sign of negligence. The more intelligence chaff that comes in, the harder it is to find the wheat. Frasca should have the chance to explain that, and Judge Lambreth should explain why he thought the warrant process was being abused. But Rowleys certainly correct when she tells Mueller that the problem with chalking this all up to the 20/20 hindsight is perfect problem is that this is not a case of everyone in the FBI failing to appreciate the potential consequences. It is obvious that the agents in Minneapolis who were closest to the action and in the best position to gauge the situation locally did fully appreciate the terrorist risk/danger posed by Moussaoui. Doesnt that sound familiar in your company? The branch offices never think headquarters knows whats really going on, while the home office VPs think the branch guys are a bunch of whiners without the chops to make it in the big time at HQ. But in this evergreen of bureaucratic in-fighting, one of HQs best arguments is usually that unlike the branch offices, it sees the big picture. This time, as Rowley notes, Frasca and company not only failed to see the big picture, they worked actively to keep others from trying to see it. Thats quite an indictment. And thats only part of her bombshell. Rowley, who is, fortunately for her, close to retirement, also goes after Mueller himself. I have deep concerns that a delicate and subtle shading/skewering of facts by you and others at the highest levels of the FBI has occurred and is occurring. She argues that Muellers reorganization, which would further empower the FBIs Washington headquarters, is exactly the wrong approach to preventing terrorism. As if to confirm Rowleys harsh judgment, Mueller last week classified her memo, though we learned after it was leaked that there is nothing even vaguely compromising about FBI sources and methods contained in it. He classified it for the same reason Bush and Cheney dont want an independent commission to investigate what happened: Its embarrassing. Now its up to the rest of us to decide. [Unfortunately its not. If it were the problem would have been addresses decades ago.] Is embarrassment a proper standard for classifying documents and sweeping poor performance under the carpet? Or is it perhaps more patrioticand better for preventing a
2 Challenge Gun Cases, Citing Bush Policy
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/31/politics/31GUNS.html WASHINGTON, May 30 Two men charged with carrying pistols without a license in the District of Columbia have invoked the Bush administration's position on guns to seek the dismissal of their cases. Reversing decades of Justice Department policy, the Bush administration told the Supreme Court this month that it believes the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms. Lawyers for the two men, Michael Freeman and Manuel Brown, say the position is inconsistent with a ruling in the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Today, the Justice Department urged the continued prosecution of the men. The controlling precedent upholds the city's firearm statutes, even though it contains reasoning that is inconsistent with the position of the United States, the department said in court papers [What bullshit! Do not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain.] Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
F.B.I. Given Broad Authority to Monitor the Public
Get ready for the shit storm. I'm making a list, checking it twice, gonna found who's tree gets watered tonight... F.B.I. Given Broad Authority to Monitor the Public By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON (AP) -- Attorney General John Ashcroft on Thursday gave the FBI broad new authority to monitor Internet sites, libraries, churches and political organizations, calling restrictions on domestic spying ``a competitive advantage for terrorists.'' http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-FBI-Reorganizing.html Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
F.B.I. Given Broad Authority to Monitor the Public
Get ready for the shit storm. I'm making a list, checking it twice, gonna found who's tree gets watered tonight... F.B.I. Given Broad Authority to Monitor the Public By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON (AP) -- Attorney General John Ashcroft on Thursday gave the FBI broad new authority to monitor Internet sites, libraries, churches and political organizations, calling restrictions on domestic spying ``a competitive advantage for terrorists.'' http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-FBI-Reorganizing.html Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Why asymmetrical warefare practitioners have nothing to fear from the FBI (and probably the rest of U.S. intelligence/law enforcement)
[An edited copy of Who Let the Terrorists Succeed? http://www.msnbc.com/news/758330.asp] The now-famous memo Minneapolis agent Coleen Rowley sent to Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, now widely known as the Federal Bureau of Incompetence. The May 21, 2002 memo, obtained by Time, is one scary document. It suggests [SURPRISE!] that we have a bunch of time-servers protecting our security, which no one is in charge of anything. If any of this changed after September 11, Rowley, a highly regarded veteran of the bureau, does not say so. Without mentioning names, Rowley basically fingers a mid-level FBI supervisory agent in the Hoover Building (in Washington) named Dave Frasca, who was supposed to be running the task force on religious fanatics. After the Minneapolis office took flight-student and hijacker-wannabe Zacarias Moussaoui into custody and obtained intelligence from the French indicating that he had terrorist ties, alert Minnesota agents didnt just passively push the case up the chain of command. They became, in Rowleys words, desperate to search his computer laptop. So desperate that they risked the wrath of higher ups by committing a real pre-9-11 no-no: contacting the CIA. Headquarters personnel didnt just deny the request to probe Moussaoui further. Even though they were privy to many more sources of intelligence information than field agents, as Rowley plaintively put it, they continued to, almost inexplicably, throw up roadblocks and undermine Minneapolis by-now desperate attempts to obtain a search warrant. Because Frascas not commenting publicly, we havent heard the other side of the story. But as anyone who has ever worked in an office knows, HQ always has its own take on events, and sometimes its even right. In this case a federal judge in Washington, Royce C. Lambreth, grew annoyed at the poor documentation involved in requests from federal prosecutors for search warrants and wiretaps. One prosecutor so angered Lambreth that he was actually barred from seeking any more approvals from judges, a move that sent a chilling career message down through the ranks of the Justice Department. So Frasca, knowing which way the wind was blowing in Washington, wasnt just going to rubber stamp the Minneapolis request. [Does this mean the complaints by civil libertarians that FESA were being heard?] Moreover, the very fact that HQ is, in Rowleys words, privy to many more sources of intelligence is actually a hindrance, not necessarily a sign of negligence. The more intelligence chaff that comes in, the harder it is to find the wheat. Frasca should have the chance to explain that, and Judge Lambreth should explain why he thought the warrant process was being abused. But Rowleys certainly correct when she tells Mueller that the problem with chalking this all up to the 20/20 hindsight is perfect problem is that this is not a case of everyone in the FBI failing to appreciate the potential consequences. It is obvious that the agents in Minneapolis who were closest to the action and in the best position to gauge the situation locally did fully appreciate the terrorist risk/danger posed by Moussaoui. Doesnt that sound familiar in your company? The branch offices never think headquarters knows whats really going on, while the home office VPs think the branch guys are a bunch of whiners without the chops to make it in the big time at HQ. But in this evergreen of bureaucratic in-fighting, one of HQs best arguments is usually that unlike the branch offices, it sees the big picture. This time, as Rowley notes, Frasca and company not only failed to see the big picture, they worked actively to keep others from trying to see it. Thats quite an indictment. And thats only part of her bombshell. Rowley, who is, fortunately for her, close to retirement, also goes after Mueller himself. I have deep concerns that a delicate and subtle shading/skewering of facts by you and others at the highest levels of the FBI has occurred and is occurring. She argues that Muellers reorganization, which would further empower the FBIs Washington headquarters, is exactly the wrong approach to preventing terrorism. As if to confirm Rowleys harsh judgment, Mueller last week classified her memo, though we learned after it was leaked that there is nothing even vaguely compromising about FBI sources and methods contained in it. He classified it for the same reason Bush and Cheney dont want an independent commission to investigate what happened: Its embarrassing. Now its up to the rest of us to decide. [Unfortunately its not. If it were the problem would have been addresses decades ago.] Is embarrassment a proper standard for classifying documents and sweeping poor performance under the carpet? Or is it perhaps more patrioticand better for preventing a
Why asymmetrical warefare practitioners have nothing to fear from the FBI (and probably the rest of U.S. intelligence/law enforcement)
[An edited copy of Who Let the Terrorists Succeed? http://www.msnbc.com/news/758330.asp] The now-famous memo Minneapolis agent Coleen Rowley sent to Robert Mueller, director of the FBI, now widely known as the Federal Bureau of Incompetence. The May 21, 2002 memo, obtained by Time, is one scary document. It suggests [SURPRISE!] that we have a bunch of time-servers protecting our security, which no one is in charge of anything. If any of this changed after September 11, Rowley, a highly regarded veteran of the bureau, does not say so. Without mentioning names, Rowley basically fingers a mid-level FBI supervisory agent in the Hoover Building (in Washington) named Dave Frasca, who was supposed to be running the task force on religious fanatics. After the Minneapolis office took flight-student and hijacker-wannabe Zacarias Moussaoui into custody and obtained intelligence from the French indicating that he had terrorist ties, alert Minnesota agents didnt just passively push the case up the chain of command. They became, in Rowleys words, desperate to search his computer laptop. So desperate that they risked the wrath of higher ups by committing a real pre-9-11 no-no: contacting the CIA. Headquarters personnel didnt just deny the request to probe Moussaoui further. Even though they were privy to many more sources of intelligence information than field agents, as Rowley plaintively put it, they continued to, almost inexplicably, throw up roadblocks and undermine Minneapolis by-now desperate attempts to obtain a search warrant. Because Frascas not commenting publicly, we havent heard the other side of the story. But as anyone who has ever worked in an office knows, HQ always has its own take on events, and sometimes its even right. In this case a federal judge in Washington, Royce C. Lambreth, grew annoyed at the poor documentation involved in requests from federal prosecutors for search warrants and wiretaps. One prosecutor so angered Lambreth that he was actually barred from seeking any more approvals from judges, a move that sent a chilling career message down through the ranks of the Justice Department. So Frasca, knowing which way the wind was blowing in Washington, wasnt just going to rubber stamp the Minneapolis request. [Does this mean the complaints by civil libertarians that FESA were being heard?] Moreover, the very fact that HQ is, in Rowleys words, privy to many more sources of intelligence is actually a hindrance, not necessarily a sign of negligence. The more intelligence chaff that comes in, the harder it is to find the wheat. Frasca should have the chance to explain that, and Judge Lambreth should explain why he thought the warrant process was being abused. But Rowleys certainly correct when she tells Mueller that the problem with chalking this all up to the 20/20 hindsight is perfect problem is that this is not a case of everyone in the FBI failing to appreciate the potential consequences. It is obvious that the agents in Minneapolis who were closest to the action and in the best position to gauge the situation locally did fully appreciate the terrorist risk/danger posed by Moussaoui. Doesnt that sound familiar in your company? The branch offices never think headquarters knows whats really going on, while the home office VPs think the branch guys are a bunch of whiners without the chops to make it in the big time at HQ. But in this evergreen of bureaucratic in-fighting, one of HQs best arguments is usually that unlike the branch offices, it sees the big picture. This time, as Rowley notes, Frasca and company not only failed to see the big picture, they worked actively to keep others from trying to see it. Thats quite an indictment. And thats only part of her bombshell. Rowley, who is, fortunately for her, close to retirement, also goes after Mueller himself. I have deep concerns that a delicate and subtle shading/skewering of facts by you and others at the highest levels of the FBI has occurred and is occurring. She argues that Muellers reorganization, which would further empower the FBIs Washington headquarters, is exactly the wrong approach to preventing terrorism. As if to confirm Rowleys harsh judgment, Mueller last week classified her memo, though we learned after it was leaked that there is nothing even vaguely compromising about FBI sources and methods contained in it. He classified it for the same reason Bush and Cheney dont want an independent commission to investigate what happened: Its embarrassing. Now its up to the rest of us to decide. [Unfortunately its not. If it were the problem would have been addresses decades ago.] Is embarrassment a proper standard for classifying documents and sweeping poor performance under the carpet? Or is it perhaps more patrioticand better for preventing a
A counterpoint to NYT's Friedman: US media cowed by patriotic fever, says Dan Rather
US media cowed by patriotic fever, says CBS star http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,717097,00.html Network news veteran admits national mood caused him to shrink from tough questions on war in Afghanistan Matthew Engel in Washington Friday May 17, 2002 The Guardian Dan Rather, the star news anchor for the US television network CBS, said last night that patriotism run amok was in danger of trampling the freedom of American journalists to ask tough questions. And he admitted that he had shrunk from taking on the Bush administration over the war on terrorism. In the weeks after September 11 Rather wore a Stars and Stripes pin in his lapel during his evening news show in an apparent display of total solidarity with the American cause. However, in an interview with BBC's Newsnight, he graphically described the pressures to conform that built up after the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. It is an obscene comparison - you know I am not sure I like it - but you know there was a time in South Africa that people would put flaming tyres around people's necks if they dissented. And in some ways the fear is that you will be necklaced here, you will have a flaming tyre of lack of patriotism put around your neck, he said. Now it is that fear that keeps journalists from asking the toughest of the tough questions. Rather did not exempt himself from the criticism, and said the problem was self-censorship. It starts with a feeling of patriotism within oneself. It carries through with a certain knowledge that the country as a whole - and for all the right reasons - felt and continues to feel this surge of patriotism within themselves. And one finds oneself saying: 'I know the right question, but you know what? This is not exactly the right time to ask it.' Such a confession is astonishing, bearing in mind its source. Rather is almost as famous in the US as the president, though he is more secure in his tenure, far better paid and probably more pampered. Rather, 70, has held what used to be regarded as the top job in American journalism for two decades, since he was chosen to succeed the revered and avuncular Walter Cronkite as CBS News's anchorman. Traditionally, CBS was the country's No 1 news channel but has lost its status and ratings after years of budget cutbacks. The White House was to blame for its failure to provide adequate information about the war, Rather said. There has never been an American war, small or large, in which access has been so limited as this one. Limiting access, limiting information to cover the backsides of those who are in charge of the war, is extremely dangerous and cannot and should not be accepted. And I am sorry to say that, up to and including the moment of this interview, that overwhelmingly it has been accepted by the American people. And the current administration revels in that, they relish that, and they take refuge in that. He said his view of the patriotism differed from that of the administration. It's unpatriotic not to stand up, look them in the eye, and ask the questions they don't want to hear - they being those who have the responsibility, the ultimate responsibility - of sending our sons and daughters, our husbands, wives, our blood, to face death. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
re: Jim-Bell-in-prison update
If 'ol Jim had really implemented an AP system instead of just running his mouth off about one he might not be breaking rocks, I mean TVs. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
re: Jim-Bell-in-prison update
If 'ol Jim had really implemented an AP system instead of just running his mouth off about one he might not be breaking rocks, I mean TVs. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
re: Australian government proposed 'terror laws'
Australia needs your help! The Howard government is using the `war on terrorism' as justification to introduce so called `Asian Values' (a euphonism used by Mahathir to explain his governments removal of rights from the Malaysian people) into Australia. Ha, ha! You know the old saying, If you have a gun, your're a citizen. Without it you're a subject. I guess you now know how it feels to be a subject of an increasingly oppressive regime. Sorry, but I won't shed a tear for the foolish. My suggestion: You made your bed. Time to take a nap. ks
re: Australian government proposed 'terror laws'
Australia needs your help! The Howard government is using the `war on terrorism' as justification to introduce so called `Asian Values' (a euphonism used by Mahathir to explain his governments removal of rights from the Malaysian people) into Australia. Ha, ha! You know the old saying, If you have a gun, your're a citizen. Without it you're a subject. I guess you now know how it feels to be a subject of an increasingly oppressive regime. Sorry, but I won't shed a tear for the foolish. My suggestion: You made your bed. Time to take a nap. ks
Re: Supremes Legalize Virtual Kiddieporn
[Considering what a hot button this topic has become its a bit surprising that the robbed ones kept this aspect of the 1st intact. It should be interesting to if Congress can craft a new reg which can pass muster. Meanwhile, look for pedo computer games to appear.] April 16, 2002 Supreme Court Strikes Down Ban on Virtual Child Pornography By DAVID STOUT WASHINGTON, April 16 In a case that addresses some of the most fundamental issues of technology and morality, the United States Supreme Court ruled today that Congress went too far in 1996, when it passed a law that treats virtual or computer-generated child pornography as the real thing. The court held, 6 to 3, that the Child Pornography Prevention Act is overly broad and unconstitutional, despite its supporters' arguments that computer-generated smut depicting children could stimulate pedophiles to molest youngsters. The sexual abuse of a child is a most serious crime and an act repugnant to the moral instincts of a decent people, Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote in the majority decision. Nevertheless, he said, if the 1996 law were allowed to stand, the Constitution's First Amendment right to free speech would be turned upside down. Congress may pass valid laws to protect children from abuse, and it has, Justice Kennedy wrote. The prospect of crime, however, by itself does not justify laws suppressing protected speech. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/national/16CND-PORN.html Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Re: Supremes Legalize Virtual Kiddieporn
[Considering what a hot button this topic has become its a bit surprising that the robbed ones kept this aspect of the 1st intact. It should be interesting to if Congress can craft a new reg which can pass muster. Meanwhile, look for pedo computer games to appear.] April 16, 2002 Supreme Court Strikes Down Ban on Virtual Child Pornography By DAVID STOUT WASHINGTON, April 16 In a case that addresses some of the most fundamental issues of technology and morality, the United States Supreme Court ruled today that Congress went too far in 1996, when it passed a law that treats virtual or computer-generated child pornography as the real thing. The court held, 6 to 3, that the Child Pornography Prevention Act is overly broad and unconstitutional, despite its supporters' arguments that computer-generated smut depicting children could stimulate pedophiles to molest youngsters. The sexual abuse of a child is a most serious crime and an act repugnant to the moral instincts of a decent people, Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote in the majority decision. Nevertheless, he said, if the 1996 law were allowed to stand, the Constitution's First Amendment right to free speech would be turned upside down. Congress may pass valid laws to protect children from abuse, and it has, Justice Kennedy wrote. The prospect of crime, however, by itself does not justify laws suppressing protected speech. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/national/16CND-PORN.html Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Re: Among the Bourgeoisophobes
[We can propable expect a new Operation Northwoods from Kagan, et al soon] Frederick Kagan, a historian at the US Military Academy, argued in a talk recently that the US needs to: More than double its defense expenditures; Ignore the Europeans and other allies due to their military ineffectuality and insufficient defense budgets; Prepare for long-term US military dominance of the world; ... Kagan said many of the United States' foreign policy failures are traceable to the Democrats, then paused, and said, you know I mean Clinton and Clinton's holdovers in government who continue to argue for cut backs in defense spending in favor of more support for domestic programs. This is clearly wrong, Kagan said, and only fools believe the enemy is not at home. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Re: Among the Bourgeoisophobes
[We can propable expect a new Operation Northwoods from Kagan, et al soon] Frederick Kagan, a historian at the US Military Academy, argued in a talk recently that the US needs to: More than double its defense expenditures; Ignore the Europeans and other allies due to their military ineffectuality and insufficient defense budgets; Prepare for long-term US military dominance of the world; ... Kagan said many of the United States' foreign policy failures are traceable to the Democrats, then paused, and said, you know I mean Clinton and Clinton's holdovers in government who continue to argue for cut backs in defense spending in favor of more support for domestic programs. This is clearly wrong, Kagan said, and only fools believe the enemy is not at home. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
Re: design considerations for distributed storage networks
On Friday, March 22, 2002, at 01:55 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: Sharing copyrighted material in order to get the same is the only working example that I can see. If someone can point to reason why large number of people would give a fuck about fighting censorship, enhancing privacy and anonymity, I'd like to be enlightened. With working real-world examples. Unemployed cypherpunks do not count. It doesn't require a large number of people, only a small number who are willing to spend their lives to expunge those who would deny the rest their rights to speech and privacy. One has only to look at the middle east to see what a small number of zealots with C4 can do. Fear of imprisonment and/or loss of friends, family and financial stability are the main weapons of the state. Many may be capable but few are willing to engage in some creative political destuction. There are very few like Timmy, but there could be more if the terminably ill were offered a sufficient incentive. Maybe what's needed is an American Patriot family relief fund. A group which supports families of those who gave their all fighting the powers that be. If had less than 6 months to live I would, without a doubt, take one or more tyrants to the grave with me. After all what have I got to lose. For the majority of short-timers without the ideological zeal but who haven't planned very well for their retirement and their family's support a posthumous windfall could tip the balance. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
How to deal with Jack Valenti
In honor of Saint Patrick's Day, here's a reminder that one of Ireland's other patron saints, Saint Columba, may have pioneered the anti-copyright movement way back in the sixth century (A.D. 555, to be exact): St. Columba had borrowed from the monk a fine manuscript of the Gospels, and Columba had made a copy of the borrowed book, before returning it. The monk claimed the copy also as his; the saint disputed this. His argument in defence reads not unlike the defence made by modern infringers of copyright: I confess that the book in question was copied from the manuscript of Finnen. But it was with my own industry and toil and burning of the midnight oil. And it was copied with such care that Finnen's manuscript is in no way injured by the act of copying. Moreover, my object was to preserve more surely the best parts of the book and employ them for the greater glory of God. Hence I do not admit that I have done any injury to Finnen; nor am liable for restitution, nor am at fault in any way. But Dermot, the judge, as manuscripts were then new in Ireland, had no exact precedent, and he cast about for the nearest analogy. He found the Brehon maxim, With every cow goes its calf, Le cach boin a boinin; and so his judgment was in favor of the monk, because Le cach lebar a lebran, With every book goes the young of the book. (But the saint, it is recorded, was very angry at this judgment, invoked the power of a rival chieftain against Dermot, and thrashed him well in battle.) [Wigmore, John H., _A Panorama of the World's Legal Systems_, Washington DC, 1936, p. 677] Too bad heads on a spike are out of fashion. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
re: a wee bit o' Soze action in Tenn
Smashed her on the counter It wasn't me Strangling on the sofa It wasn't me Hanging her in the shower It wasn't me She made the marks on my shoulder It wasn't me Heard the screams getting louder It wasn't me She stayed until it was over Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/ Looking for a good deal on a domain name? http://www.hush.com/partners/offers.cgi?id=domainpeople
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At 02:47 PM 2/26/2002 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: Yeah, the markup's at 4 pm today. I'll have something online tomorrow morning, I presume. --Declan On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:38:06PM +0200, Jei wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,50620,00.html By Declan McCullagh 2:00 a.m. Feb. 23, 2002 PST WASHINGTON -- The Justice Department wants Congress to increase jail terms and boost surveillance in an anti-hacking bill that will be debated next week. On Tuesday, a House Judiciary subcommittee is scheduled to vote on the Cyber Security Enhancement Act, which already increases punishments for illegal computer intrusions. In cases where miscreants knowingly attempt to cause death or serious bodily injury through electronic means, the punishment would be life imprisonment. That's not stiff enough for the Bush administration. John Malcolm, the deputy assistant attorney general, has testified that life imprisonment also should include reckless offenses like wreaking havoc on a 911 system or a hospital network. I've decided that I will hold those in Congress personally to the same standard through their votes. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/
RE: Cruel and unusual punishment
Mr. Soze: Perhaps in the past, but unless you include citizens and their government, there has never been a historical period, to my knowledge, where people unaffiliated except for their ideology or religion voted the death of another by proxy. Should an effective AP machanism come into service I would suggest we have entered unchartered territory. People's war rests on unity of mind. Willy-nilly killing? You fail to accomplish any people's objective and loose one of your strategic strengths. I don't think Stalin would think much of this idea, and he would probably be the guy to ask. This is not a people's war. If anything its a war against democracy and an attempt to discipline elected officials into obeying their sworn oaths. You know, the ones they rarely obey and are almost never called to account. Ahh... but many/most of those who participate, or wish to, may not be whom those in power think. I suggest that there are many who hold secret grudges against those in authority. They may not admit it to others, maybe not even to themselves, but if means become available and circumstances demonstrate that they can strike with impunity then watch the fun begin. Like the Krell of Forbidden Planet, AP could catalyze an Id chain reaction. Ah, the WW I kick-off model. Note: the war for dead boys. Combat is always subservient to political strategy. AP is subservient to individual will. Its subserviant to the will of the purses. Something like this happened during the French Revolution. Many citizens, at first, believed that the fault of the tyranny lay not with the King but with his ministers and their bureaucracy. But as time when on the ax fell on them all as the people realized that the evil lay with hereditary rights and all those who served this evil purpose could no longer be trusted in society. Paine wrote on this extensively. Paine? Thomas Paine Personal conflict as a precursor for war is based on the retaliatory cycle of violence. Traditional: a member of A must kill a member of B. Tribe B wishes to retaliate, but Tribe A shelters the actor. You lack those dynamics. What do you offer? Vengeance, or insecurity and uncertainty? (Men of the South, it is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees! ~Zapata) Dead bodies do nothing. Aside from encouraging spiraling reprisals, a large adversary has redundancy in leadership. In the French Resistance, the Front National *alone* killed 600 Germans -- a month. Revolutions are usually by martyr. _YOU_ BLEED TO LEAD, not the other way around. Usually. AP is certainly no tool for the people. The concept is closest to Mao's fundamental force or primitive warfare. But AP is based on cowardice, not courage. Division, instead of unity. Criminality, rather than cause. Enmity, not education. etc. It's the Greece mistake no? -- a warning to anybody that seeks to play on criminal mentality to achieve a social or political change? In people's conflict, time is the terrain and tradition the target. Clandestine warfare is not about hiding, but constantly escaping. (I believe T.E. Lawrence wrote on that extensively.) What you really escape is not the enemy, but arranged conflict. You break space to fight in time. Most people see guerrillas yielding territory, and talk about how they master space and mobility...but, they are territory-focused. They see hiding, because they are space-focused. TIME is their terrain, their tool, and even their terror. The Apaches were time warriors, they didn't stand their ground -- they stood their time. Terrorism is time warfare with noncombatant targets. Disperse war through time and space -- and you've hit the American blindspot. Unbundle and disassociate the actors also, and yes, you might have something...but now, is that really uncharted territory? Takes Apache to kill Apache. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/
Re: spam attack on cpunks list
At 12:14 AM 2/6/2002 +0100, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: Could it be that there is a subspecies genetically adapted to work for the government ? There is a very strong evolutionary pressure here - they would get more chance to procreate than their victims. Which brings me to the point: is it possible to design an ebola-like virus that would specifically target this particular gene fingerprint ? Unlikely, but it may be possible to develop an assassination kit which automates the process of creating a targeted HIV-type virus using targeted genetic information. The target's histocompatibility markers. Just walk by their car and take a swipe of the door handle (warning: could also target family members and parking attendants). Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/
A small token of our displeasure
Since politicians and blind patriots are busy wrapping themselves in the flag and placing it everwhere like spor, I've started flying mine upside down (a distress signal for the nation). In particular, I'm sending all my mail using flag stamps flying inverted. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/
re: STATE OF EMPIRE
What we heard, behind the words or between the lines, was that we're now in an indefinite state of military preparedness for war at home and abroad. Wartime brings about the abrogation of civil rights and domestic freedoms. We'll let's not disappoint them. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/
Dynamite Dust Theater troup premier at SFO
A little dust on the floor at the entrance can go a long way. Hush provide the worlds most secure, easy to use online applications - which solution is right for you? HushMail Secure Email http://www.hushmail.com/ HushDrive Secure Online Storage http://www.hushmail.com/hushdrive/ Hush Business - security for your Business http://www.hush.com/ Hush Enterprise - Secure Solutions for your Enterprise http://www.hush.com/
re: Re: Deformed Consent
It is even better to have a few carefully placed Claymores connected to a voice activated trigger. At 02:57 PM 1/15/2002 -0500, Duncan Frissell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://meek.sublette.com/roundup/v95n1/v95n1s2.htm They told me they were there to search the house. I asked then if they had a warrant, said Mr. Storer. They did not. An ATF agent instead presented Mr. Storer with a consent form to sign allowing the ATF agents and the Sheriff's deputies to search his trailer. Mr. Storer, still in his pajamas and his hands on his head, surrounded by armed officers, was given an option. He and his girlfriend, who was wearing a t-shirt and little else, could wait outside in the cold until the ATF could obtain a warrant on a Sunday morning, or he could just sign the consent. Kids, if this happens to you don't worry. Consent obtained at gunpoint is not considered voluntary even in our debased system. Always safer not to
Off the wagon, again
George II now sports a nasty little bruise on his face. The spin is that he choked on a pretzel and fell down. Right. I wonder who's running things now that the king has fallen into his old habits. Will it be like Nancy and Ron?
Re: End of the IRS??
At 12:00 AM 1/8/2002 -0500, Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never quite understood how the amendment-not-ratified-properly-in-1913 argument is supposed to play out. If this were 1915 and we suddenly realized that there was some funny business going on, that would be one thing. But much has changed in the last 90 or so years. Courts have allowed the federal government to seize power not granted by the Constitution (and, in some cases, strictly prohibited by it). Booze prohibition required a constitutional amendment; drug prohibition wouldn't. All the more reason to go on a mindless killing spree. So even if someone were to prove that the 16th Am. wasn't quite kosher, what would stop the courts from saying -- it wasn't necessary? No but it would provide whatever moral basis one needs to terminate the vermin with extreme prejudice. What's needed are a few terminally ill militia minded souls to give up their last few weeks for the cause. I know I wouldn't hesitate. Maybe an anon cash pool, collected after the fact, to support these patriots' families could be used to offer additional incentive. When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty --- Thomas Jefferson
Re: Fun with bleach and nail polish remover
At 11:29 PM 12/29/2001 +0100, Anonynmous wrote: You will need 30% Hydrogen Peroxide (6% will give you a rather poor yield). Now to get the 30% Hydrogen Peroxide, go to your local hospital chemist. 30% will never be sold to someone for their hair so don't try that story, so spin a story that the Peroxide is to clean a wound as it is a great disinfectant (diluted of course). If you have trouble finding concentrated H2O2 you can distill your own from dilute sources. http://webhome.idirect.com/~earlcp/Reports/Stills_199x.html
Violating the Constitution with Impunity
A recent speech by former FCC Commissioner Harold Furchtgott-Roth is rather refreshing. A key quote. Today, when the federal government violates the constitution including the First Amendment, we mostly find silence from the media. http://www.aei.org/sp/sp111601b.htm There is little doubt that much that we have taken for granted in the United States has changed in the past two months. Our feeling of security, our confidence in the safety of public facilities, and our general sense of well-being have all been shaken. The poignant question is raised about whether the First Amendment#8212;particularly the speech provision--has changed, or perhaps whether the government#8217;s interpretation of it has changed. I have some good news. The words of the First Amendment are the same today as they were two months ago, or two years ago, or two decades ago, or two centuries ago. But I also have some bad news. The First Amendment has been violated many times in the past two centuries. As Floyd Abrams noted earlier this morning, many of our greatest national leaders have taken great liberties in curtailing the First Amendment, particularly in times of crisis. And it is not just our great leaders, and it is not only in times of crisis, that the First Amendment has been violated. The constitution itself, and the First Amendment in particular, are violated frequently. Moreover, those who violate the constitution are rarely held accountable. Public servants largely have immunity for liability in their performance of their public functions. But, when it comes to the constitution, that immunity often turns into impunity, a veritable license to violate at will. Aside from occasional public disapprobation, there is no penalty for violating the Constitution generally or the First Amendment in particular.
fuel injected firearm
Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber?
Re: fuel injected firearm
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:30:20 -0800, Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:32:51PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of the shootingpunks on the list heard of constructing a firearm from something akin to a internal combustion chamber? You can buy one at Home Depot! It's called a cordless nailer. Powered by fuel cells which are probably propane. The Porter-Cable Bammer is one model. I'll check into it. My thought was to create a very high rate of fire, simple and effective full auto weapon for caseless ammo.
Monkeywrenching airport security
Walk into an airport in baggy pants with powdered expolosives in a leg bag which can slowly be dispersed as you walk (perhaps controlled by some sort of string control like POWs scattered excavated soil in The Great Escape). After walking around in the lobby it should soon be tracked to the security checkpoints and interfere with any current swab or automated detection methods.
Re: Cypherpunk failures
At 02:00 AM 11/18/2001 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: The larger question is, what is it about the cypherpunk worldview which is so wrong? Why do cypherpunks constantly predict events which don't come true? And is this faulty vision responsible for the failure of the cypherpunks to maintain their cultural and technological influence, and to make progress towards their goals? The most crippling error of the cypherpunks has been their unremitting pessimism. Ever since the group was created they have predicted imminent crackdowns on cryptography. And yet the trend has consistently been in the opposite direction. Rather than keeping to an optimistic vision of a better world, cypherpunks have sunk into a morass of doomsaying. The Y2K debacle was perhaps the most prominent example of failed pessimism. Why work on crypto if the world is coming to an end? You're way off base. Many CP on and off this list have attempted, some to a relatively creditable degree, to create technologies (many open source) or launch ventures consistent with CP goals. Another mistake has been to view the world in simplistic terms of black and white, true patriots versus those who need killin'. Government in this view is a monolithic entity with the single-minded goal of destroying individual rights and creating a tyrannical dictatorship. Society is composed of sheeple who are ignorant of their own best interests and easily manipulated by those in power. This view ignores the complex nature of political and corporate influence and the many competing groups which vie for power in the world. It emphasizes that to keep one's civil rights in the face of those who would trade them away, it may sometimes be necessary to temper their ignorance, greed, or other self interest with the specter of personal consequences untempered by law. And of course much energy has been wasted in internal debate and rhetoric which, because founded on these erroneous points, has been useless and irrelevant. It's easier to moan and complain when bad things happen than to adopt a positive view of the world and work in an optimistic way to make it happen. Meanwhile the most interesting technological changes are passing the cypherpunks by. The open source movement, peer to peer exchange, the music and copyright wars, all have had little impact in the cypherpunk world. Peer to peer technology alone has tremendous potential as a foundation for long-term cypherpunk dreams like anonymizing proxies, encrypted data sharing, eternity, even DC nets. Again you appear to be ignorant of the many CPs (Adam Back, Adam Shostack, Ian Goldberg, Ian Grigg, Doug Barnes, Sameer Parekh, Marc Bracino, Jim McCoy, and many others) who have contributed heavily in these areas. As Tim says read the archives. Its all there. While it may be true that some were too early and somewhat idealistic I expect that their efforts will directly or indirectly encourage others to take up the banner and push on to success.
Brothers in arms?
Anthrax is almost the same organism as Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), which is produced commercially as a pesticide. The two organisms can be grown and prepared in the same way. Because Bt is generally considered harmless, the facilities producing it probably have not been investigated as possible sources of the anthrax material.
Re: Sedition
At 08:34 PM 11/13/2001 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Federal law prohibits paramilitary training and the manufacture or transport of weapons with the knowledge or intent that they will be used to create a civil disturbance. (Ref 10) Federal law differs from most state laws prohibiting paramilitary training in that it applies only to the trainers, not the trainees. Under most state laws governing paramilitary training, participation as a trainee is also illegal. On 12 Nov 2001, at 21:38, Tim May wrote: Unconstitutional nonsense. So, Agent Faustine, report me. In my observation, obviously unconstitutional laws tend to be selective applied against people that are unsympathetic, and, most importantly, cannot afford lawyers. Fortunately we can all afford firearms, some of high accuracy, range and penetration. Soon we may all be able to afford tools for individually selective bioagents and WoMD. What these downtrodden need most is a bit of ideological enlightenment and training. Tim, would you care to name your favorite militia training web sites? Anyone know if any of the once popular but now out-of-print Palladin books are circulating in e-book form?
Re: America the Damned
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Individuals are morally free to make the decision when the Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends. And its their soverign duty to make war against the tyranny. Remember that only a small, perhaps less than 10%, of the Colonials took an active part in revolting against the Crowne. All Tim has done is advocated the same sort of treatment the founders advocated for formation of our country. All the goverment has done is to criminalize any utter of similar treatment of itself. Reminds me of the bumper stickers Welcome to California, Now Go Home. Just what one expects from a statist group. Its OK that we were founded by revolution but not that we may be subjected to another revolution. Same as it ever was. While it is true that much of the early CP list debate centered on technology for empowerment of privacy, it was also regularly discussed that eventually the government might decide that such freedoms were damaging to their hegemony and take measures to punish adherents and suppliers of these munitions. When one is subjected to tyranny one has several choices, including: hiding, kneeling and waiting for the shit to blow over, and fighting. This fighting may be in the legal arena, but in times of national emergency the likelyhood of finding an unbiased ear on the bench or the jury box may preclude a fair trial. In that case one might identify the oppressors and individually target them. I suggest if you find expression of such logical sentiment objectionable that you leave the list.
Enemy at the Door
Seems those opposed to the coming civil liberties crack down need to start employing some of the very same technology proposed to corral us. For starters how about PC FaceCam to punish sneak and peek? Seems that if the data base of such a system were programmed to detect entry and discriminate family members or others who should have legit access to your property you could use it to deter their searches.(Probably a good idea to put a good UPS on the PC and FaceCam to thwart power interruptions, though why they would want to risk causing a tell tale time reset to one of you appliances I can't imagine.) For example, you could hook a compressed air tank to a high frequency whistle via a control valve connected to you PC. Shouldn't be much of a problem reaching damaging or even lethal sound levels and might hard to stop once triggered. (Ever try find which one of your smoke detectors was triggering?) Not recommended if you have pets :-) (I once connected a buzzer in the center of a large wall-mounted array of flash lamps to an under-the-carpet pressure sensor to form a burglar bugger. When triggered the system would sound the buzzer for about 1/2 second, to attract the eyes of the burglar, and then fire. A few months after install our place was burgled and the thieves fled without taking any items, probably with some permanent retinal damage.) Of course you could connect an automated firearm to the PC. (Crime Stoppers Note: always aim for the head to avoid protective vests) Any lawyers on the list know what penalties might be brought? I seem to recall that tying a shotgun to the doorknob was ruled an indiscriminate weapon. But a FaceCam controlled gun wouldn't be indiscriminate.
Enemy at the Door
Seems those opposed to the coming civil liberties crack down need to start employing some of the very same technology proposed to corral us. For starters how about PC FaceCam to punish sneek and peekers? Seems that if the data base of such a system were programmed to detect entry and descriminate family members or others who should have legit access to your property you could use it to deter their searches.(Probably a good idea to put a good UPS on the PC and FaceCam to thwart power interruptions, though why they would want to risk causing a tell tale time reset to one of you appliances I can't imaginge.) For example, you could hook a compressed air tank to a high frequency whistle via a control valve connected to you PC. Shouldn't be much of a problem reaching damaging or even lethal sound levels and might hard to stop once triggered. (Ever try find which one of your smoke detectors was triggering?) Not recommended if you have pets :-) (I once connected a buzzer in the center of a large wall-mounted array of flash lamps to an under-the-carpet pressure sensor to form a burgler bugger. When triggered the system would sound the buzzer for about 1/2 second, to attract the eyes of the burgler, and then fire. A few months after install our place was burgled and the thieves fled without taking any items, probably with some permanent retnal damage.) Of course you could connect an automated firearm to the PC. (Crime Stoppers Note: aways aim for the head to avoid protective vests) Any lawyers on the list know what penalties might be brought. I seem to recall that tying a shotgun to the door knob was ruled an indescriminate weapon But a FaceCam controlled gun wouldn't be indescriminate.
Homeland Insecurity
Homeland Insecurity A Sacramento journalist is taken into custody by police and forced to destroy photos by an over-zealous National Guardsman. Apparently, the terrorists are indeed causing instability. the article: http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2001-10-25/cover.asp Most [revolutions] have been [ended] by a subversion of that liberty [they were] intended to establish. --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1784. ME 4:218, Papers 7:106
Ashcroft prepares for martial law
Unlike America's Most Wanted the new dire but vague warnings are unlikely to cause citizens to uncover a massive new plot, I doubt they would have uncovered the 911 even if predictions of impending trouble have been announced a few days prior. Since Congress gave him virtually everything he asked for the next step is martial law, though how that might help uncover any new plots is beyond me.
King George II
In dishonor of his namesake father and the possible historical irony I suggest that from now on we call our current commander in chief King George II and refer to his politcal and law enforcement henchmen as Pop Tories.
re: Disney's SSSCA psy-ops: EZ Jackster
--Disney Channel cartoon portrays music downloads as evil The Disney Channel cartoon series The Proud Family (http://disney.go.com/disneychannel/zoogdisney/shows/proudfamily/index_main.html)aired an episode on Oct. 5 entitled EZ Jackster. In the storyline, EZ Jackster is a Napster-like site, and the show's little heroines get addicted to the service and play a part in the downfall of the music industry. Disney is one of the backers of the SSSCA proposed legislation that is scheduled for a hearing before Congress Oct. 25. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/22/1636242mode=thread If someone had the presence of mind to capture this to .mpg and post it on one of the popular P2P sites it could make for a good laugh when it gets reworked to have a more plausible ending.
Re: used lab equiptment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:01:40 +0200 (MET DST), Eugene Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A specialized ultrasonic device is not required to produce micron fine aerosol powders. All one needs is a used and cleaned print head In fact not, pressure waves strong enough to aerosol liquid will also cause cavitation, resulting in heating and destruction of material. At ultrasonic frequencies this can be a problem. At lower freq, generally not. When combined with the electrospray method which provides significant pull of the droplet from the nozzle reducing required piezo pressure and consequent cell wall damage. I've not tried it with anthrax but it can work well with ecoli. assembly and its piezo pulse circuitry. Nozzle apertures are typically 25-50 micron and if the material is suspended, in weak Ever tried pushing a bacterial suspension through a printer head (processivity set aside)? It will clog it up in no time. No, but I have through a micro pipette and if the suspension is dilute (as I noted) it works fine. concentration, in a solution which quickly evaporates but doesn't harm the spores it should produce moderate quantities of fine powder quickly. Um, why don't we quit armchair microbiology, and stick to what we can best: produce lots of uninformed speculations? Oh. Indeed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjvTbecZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n2XIAJ9zhuCbM1ZXBxNb6veOqN6WpXX1AgCfdGBibYi4UZuqxhR4ueyhwi4sd8I= =4D6c -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)
At 09:54 PM 10/20/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, one of these would be handy. http://www.eltroncards.com/printers/p520.htm Nahh... probably too expensive and difficult to purchase. All you need is an ALPS dye-sub printer. Quality is photo. The 1300/2300 models can be had for about $100-150 on eBay. The paper tray folds down to allow a straight path past the print heads. ID card, laminate stock and CDs are easily accomodated. You can even produce watermark overlays (great for state seals) by peeling the barcode cassette ID from a consumed black cartridge and pasting it over the color (e.g., metallic silver, gold or transparent) cartridge you want for a water mark. The printer scans the cartridges when you close the cover and will think the color overlay cartridge is black.
used lab equiptment
A specialized ultrasonic device is not required to produce micron fine aerosol powders. All one needs is a used and cleaned print head assembly and its piezo pulse circuitry. Nozzle apertures are typically 25-50 micron and if the material is suspended, in weak concentration, in a solution which quickly evaporates but doesn't harm the spores it should produce moderate quantities of fine powder quickly. If smaller sizes are desired a field ring charged to 1000-3000v DC can be placed around and in front of the nozzles. If operated in sync with the nozzle pulses it can cause a the emerging droplets to cascade to nanometer size via the electrospray effect (now becoming common in drug production). See http://www.essex.ac.uk/bs/staff/colbeck/index.htm#appas
Re: Stu Baker on CALEA and the Net
At 03:48 PM 10/18/2001 -0700, Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FBI requires ISPs to permit easy surveillance; EFF founder agrees http://www.politechbot.com/p-02671.html Stu Baker replies to Politech post on ISPs and EFF founder http://www.politechbot.com/p-02672.html From: Baker, Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Albertazzie, Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FBI requires ISPs to permit easy surveillance; EFF founder ag rees Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:52:52 -0400 Declan, I guess I ought to know what Mitch said and didn't say at this event. In fact, I took Mitch's remarks as an olive branch and an invitation to more civil discourse now that we have a keener sense of how much unites rather than divides us. He didn't say he was willing to abandon principle for expediency. He did say that he defines himself as many things, and civil liberties advocate is (just) one of them. He also said he is open to reconsidering his views in the aftermath of September 11. Well, who isn't? Only an ideologue would refuse to reconsider his views in the light of new data (or would accuse those who do of abandoning principles for expediency). But in fact, Mitch held up the civil! liberties end of the discussion with dignity and moderation, offering a determined argument against national id cards, for example. Stewart Baker Anyone who has given this subject much consideration knows that today's threats are not new and were already incorporated into informed views before September 11. No new threat has been identified, only fairly well known threats have been acted upon. No credible reasons for reconsideration of the balance of security vs. civil rights have been presented only propaganda. It is only the dereliction of our news media and government officials which has made the situation seem new to many citizens. Too bad military standards of justice aren't applied to all government employees. steve
Re: Stu Baker on CALEA and the Net
At 03:48 PM 10/18/2001 -0700, Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FBI requires ISPs to permit easy surveillance; EFF founder agrees http://www.politechbot.com/p-02671.html Stu Baker replies to Politech post on ISPs and EFF founder http://www.politechbot.com/p-02672.html From: Baker, Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Albertazzie, Sally [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FBI requires ISPs to permit easy surveillance; EFF founder ag rees Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:52:52 -0400 Declan, I guess I ought to know what Mitch said and didn't say at this event. In fact, I took Mitch's remarks as an olive branch and an invitation to more civil discourse now that we have a keener sense of how much unites rather than divides us. He didn't say he was willing to abandon principle for expediency. He did say that he defines himself as many things, and civil liberties advocate is (just) one of them. He also said he is open to reconsidering his views in the aftermath of September 11. Well, who isn't? Only an ideologue would refuse to reconsider his views in the light of new data (or would accuse those who do of abandoning principles for expediency). But in fact, Mitch held up the civil ! liberties end of the discussion with dignity and moderation, offering a determined argument against national id cards, for example. Stewart Baker Anyone who has given this subject much consideration knows that today's threats are not new and were already incorporated into informed views before September 11. No new threat has been identified, only fairly well known threats have been acted upon. No credible reasons for reconsideration of the balance of security vs. civil rights have been presented only propaganda. It is only the dereliction of our news media and government officials which has made the situation seem new to many citizens. Too bad military standards of justice aren't applied to all government employees. steve
The Day the Airways Stood Still
BARNHARDT (studying her for a moment) Tell me, Hilda -- does all this frighten you -- does it make you feel insecure? HILDA Yes, sir -- it certainly does! BARNHARDT (nodding with a bland little smile) That's good, Hilda. I#8217;m glad.
Re: and now for something completely different...
I felt a great disturbance in the Force . . . as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
An apt lyric for today\'s situation in America
Don't Dream It's Over Written by: Neil Finn Performed by: Crowded House There is freedom within, there is freedom without Try to catch the deluge in a paper cup There's a battle ahead, many battles are lost But you'll never see the end of the road While you're travelling with me Chorus Hey now, hey now Don't dream it's over Hey now, hey now When the world comes in They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win Now I'm towing my car, there's a hole in the roof My possessions are causing me suspicion but there's no proof In the paper today tales of war and of waste But you turn right over to the T.V. page Hey now, hey now Don't dream it's over Hey now, hey now When the world comes in They come, they come To build a wall between us We know they won't win Now I'm walking again to the beat of a drum And I'm counting the steps to the door of your heart Only the shadows ahead barely clearing the roof Get to know the feeling of liberation and relief Hey now, hey now Don't dream it's over Hey now, hey now When the world comes in They come, they come To build a wall between us Don't ever let them win
Re: Democracy is our enemy
At 03:22 AM 9/25/2001 +, Anonymous wrote: Thomas Leavitt writes: I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian and authoritarian types from the far left and the far right as justification for abandonment of the democratic process and the use of force to impose their ideology on the rest of us. Well said. There was an article the other day about the terrorists, which made the point that capitalism and fundamentalism were much alike, in that both share a distrust of democracy. The same can be said for the cypherpunks. The same can be said for the framers. That's why we don't have a democracy butthead. Is it possible that certain cypherpunks find themselves on the same side as bin Laden and his fundamentalist killers? Do they secretly support this murderous attacks on innocent civilians? We now face biological and chemical attacks, which are supposed to be even more cruel and shocking than the WTC attacks. Are these cypherpunks in favor of seeing more Americans killed by terrorist actions? I can't speak for others but I don't want to see any more Americans killed by terrorists than have been killed by U.S.-supported right-wing regimes in the past 50 years. Its only when the chickens come home to roost that the true price of our global hegenomy and victory against others with different idiologies will be driven home and our foreign policy adjusted accordingly. The philosophical connection becomes even clearer with the frequent statements by cypherpunks that those who disagree need killing, that blood must be shed by those of different political views. Not views, actions which impinge on our liberties. In effect this is a call for a Cypherpunk Jihad (the word is often translated as holy war, but justified struggle is as valid a translation). It is no different for Tim May to call for the extinction of his enemies than for Usama bin Laden to do so. Cypherpunks need to take a hard look at themselves. Anyone who feels horror and disgust at the terrorist acts should recognize that the same sentiments are found here, just below the surface. The thinly veiled threats of bloodshed are based on the same philosophy of violent hatred and contempt for others which motivates the terrorists. One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Asymetrical warfare is here to stay. Get used to it! U.S. citizens feel their hands are clean because our leaders made sure Americans weren't holding the guns which slaughtered tens of thousands. They can't understand why so many now want us dead. What did we do to deserve this? Many of our mid-east puppets have used the U.S. as their whipping boy to deflect criticism from their own oppressive regimes and our tolerance of this over the past decades will now haunt our foreign policy for many years to come. If we want to stop terrorism we need to fix our foreign policy.
Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel:
At 04:58 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 03:08 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote: I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian and authoritarian types from the far left and the far right as justification for abandonment of the democratic process and the use of force to impose their ideology on the rest of us. We are not for democracy. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. We are not a democracy, but a repubic (pun intended). The primary responsibility of our elected officials is to protect the minorities from the majority and to preserve protect and defend the constitution. Many representatives clearly show they have at best a poor understanding of the Constitution, the words and intentions of the framers. Some even show disdain for it. How many Congressmen do you think ever read Thomas Paine's works? Crypto anarchy is about undermining democracy, causing the house of cards to collapse. I refuse to give up on our way of life, my fellow citizens, or to write off my government as completely and irredemably lost. You are welcome to refuse to give up on our way of life. Many others over the centuries have similarly refused to give up on royalism...I hear there are even clubs where people pretend to be various archdukes and viscounts, and even fan clubs for the grandchildren of royals deposed 75 years ago. Maybe there will be fan clubs for democracy supporters. Maybe they will even launch little wars agains the royalists. Democracy will soon be consigned to the dustbin of history. I hope representative government is not.
Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel: The SSSCA
- Forwarded Message - From: Someone Working to keep our neighbors awake and informed is our best hope, in my view - that is the only way democracy will ever work. Historically this has often failed (e.g., the lack of outcry against Japanese internment camps). Neighboors are willing to sell their liberty and their neighbors at the drop of a hat if someone in government promises them greater security, even though these same liars failed them time and time again. Since the New Deal Americans and corporations have become increasingly reliant on government to provide for them, shield them from their own poor judgement and folly and transfer the responsibility to the rest of us. (Citizens of a like mind should structure upcoming tax filings to deduct Congress' largess to the airlines and others). We cannot depend on these cowards and weaklings. You'll notice that no Declaration of War was formally given. Even so Congress has moved to curtail civil liberties. From my perspective both life and liberty are equally dear. Those that attempt to take either I will treat the same. Its time to water the tree... I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian and authoritarian types from the far left and the far right as justification for abandonment of the democratic process and the use of force to impose their ideology on the rest of us. It is the cry of someone unwilling to do the hard work of actually speaking to their fellow and convincing them of the rightness of the cause being professed; the frustrated rant of someone who is convinced he or she has The Truth on their side - the same opinion shared by Timothy McVeigh, Osma Bin Ladin, and folks of a similar ilk. I wish I had a penny for every such conversation regarding this topic I've had. I won't deny that I think our government is unduly influenced by factions (from certain labor unions to untold numbers of corporations) with financial and other interests at stake, but my answer is to become a more dedicated citizen, to work harder to educate my fellow citizens and elected representatives about what I think is right and just. I wish I shared your hopeful attitude. Earlier in our country's history, when the public educational system was functioning a bit better, the average citizen had a broader perspective and a firsthand knowledge of the Constitution. Since the '60s the public system has all but failed subsequent generations leaving most ignorant and uninterested about how we got to where we are today, and easily propaganized. I've spent a considerable amount of time with those younger than 30 and its freightening how few (except for the radicals and a few lawyers) have ever read the founder's documents. Democracy only works when a citizenry is well informed. So what do you do now that you've got a generation of rubes? The political structure has almost precluded representation by those with minority views. The Republicrats are little more than two underworld gangs fighting over turf (us and our taxes) while we only get to flip a coin to determine who sticks it to us. How do you convince them that their leaders have been increasingly operating outside the intentions of the framers by ignoring and re-interpreting the Constitution to accomodate popular political sentement or accomodate powerful forces often with hidden agendas? I encourage everyone to read this book - it says more about the strengths and weaknesses of this country (and more importantly, the cowards and weaklings who make it work) than anything I've ever read. It is written by an Arab-American and a profound patriot, someone whose life represents the American dream in all it's glory and gore. America, More Than a Country by Salom Rizk Thanks, I'll look into it. I'd like to return the favor, Thomas. I suggest reading The Sovereign Individual : Mastering the Transition to the Information Age. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684832720/o/qid%3D970264502/sr%3D2-1/103-2152618-1779855 In The Sovereign Individual, Davidson and Rees-Mogg explore the greatest economic and political transition in centuries -- the shift from an industrial to an information-based society. Although somewhat repetitve, they raise some compelling arguments about what techo-geo-political factors have shaped governemnt and society and what current and anticipated factors will shape it yet again. Specifically that the economic return on violence, which is mainly tied to technology, is the most important long term influence on geopolitics. Their prediction is that nation states will be reduced significantly in global influence by the combination of the Internet (especially anonymous digital money) and the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons in the hands of
Re: Democracy is our enemy
At 04:58 PM 9/24/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: On Monday, September 24, 2001, at 03:08 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote: I'm tired of hearing my fellow Americans referred to as cowards, weaklings, sheep, ignorant, easily mislead - this is a profoundly undemocratic sentiment, the same kind of crap spewed by totalitarian and authoritarian types from the far left and the far right as justification for abandonment of the democratic process and the use of force to impose their ideology on the rest of us. We are not for democracy. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. We are not a democracy, but a repubic (pun intended). The primary responsibility of our elected officials is to protect the minorities from the majority and to preserve protect and defend the constitution. Many representatives clearly show they have at best a poor understanding of the Constitution, the words and intentions of the framers. Some even show disdain for it. How many Congressmen do you think ever read Thomas Paine's works? Crypto anarchy is about undermining democracy, causing the house of cards to collapse. I refuse to give up on our way of life, my fellow citizens, or to write off my government as completely and irredemably lost. You are welcome to refuse to give up on our way of life. Many others over the centuries have similarly refused to give up on royalism...I hear there are even clubs where people pretend to be various archdukes and viscounts, and even fan clubs for the grandchildren of royals deposed 75 years ago. Maybe there will be fan clubs for democracy supporters. Maybe they will even launch little wars agains the royalists. Democracy will soon be consigned to the dustbin of history. I hope representative government is not.
Re: ID cards+law history
At 08:00 PM 9/23/2001 -0700, citizenQ wrote: The scholarly informed citations are useful and interesting. But haven't we been put on notice that a rebalancing is going to occur, it's a new world and we will use every measure at our disposal to combat terrorism ?? - I fear it is naive to imagine that case law and legal precedent can combat the legislative onslaught to come. Indeed it may have to be fought through the crosshairs...
Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel: The SSSCA
From: Someone Working to keep our neighbors awake and informed is our best hope, in my view - that is the only way democracy will ever work. Historically this has often failed (e.g., the lack of outcry against Japanese internment camps). Neighboors are willing to sell their liberty and their neighbors at the drop of a hat if someone in government promises them greater security, even though these same liars failed them time and time again. Since the New Deal Americans and corporations have become increasingly reliant on government to provide for them, shield them from their own poor judgement and folly and transfer the responsibility to the rest of us. (Citizens of a like mind should structure upcoming tax filings to deduct Congress' largess to the airlines and others). We cannot depend on these cowards and weaklings. You'll notice that no Declaration of War was formally given. Even so Congress has moved to curtail civil liberties. From my perspective both life and liberty are equally dear. Those that attempt to take either I will treat the same. Its time to water the tree...
Fwd: Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel: The SSSCA
- Forwarded Message - From: Someone Working to keep our neighbors awake and informed is our best hope, in my view - that is the only way democracy will ever work. Historically this has often failed (e.g., the lack of outcry against Japanese internment camps). Neighboors are willing to sell their liberty and their neighbors at the drop of a hat if someone in government promises them greater security, even though these same liars failed them time and time again. Since the New Deal Americans and corporations have become increasingly reliant on government to provide for them, shield them from their own poor judgement and folly and transfer the responsibility to the rest of us. (Citizens of a like mind should structure upcoming tax filings to deduct Congress' largess to the airlines and others). We cannot depend on these cowards and weaklings. You'll notice that no Declaration of War was formally given. Even so Congress has moved to curtail civil liberties. From my perspective both life and liberty are equally dear. Those that attempt to take either I will treat the same. Its time to water the tree...
re: Congress
It's beginning to look more and more like Tim is absolutely right. There are just one fuck of a lot of people in this country that really, seriously, need killing. It is utterly amazing how quickly, because of one incident, all these leaders are jumping thru the trash the Constitution hoop. And, of course, anyone who attempts to actively oppose their fascist schemes, is aiding and abetting terrorists. Is there no way out of this? Only cowards worry about possible punishment. If this be terrorism, make the most of it!
SI - The End of Nations, Part 2
The Taboo on Foresight To see outside an existing system breaches a convention that helps keep the system functioning. Every social order incorporates among its key taboos the notion that people living in it should not think about how it will end and what rules may prevail in the new system that takes its place. Implicitly, whatever system exists is the last or the only system that will ever exist. Not that this is so baldly stated. Few who have ever read a history book would find such an assumption realistic if it was articulated. Nonetheless, that is the convention that rules the world. Every social system, however strongly or weakly it clings to power, pretends that its rules will never be superseded: They are the last word. Or perhaps the only word. Primitives assume that theirs is the only possible way of organizing life. More economically complicated systems that incorporate a sense of history usually place themselves at its apex. Whether they are Chinese mandarins in the court of the empe! ror, the Marxist nomenklatura in Stalin's Kremlin, or members of the House of Representatives in Washington, the powers#64979;that#64979;be either imagine no history at all or place themselves at the pinnacle of history, in a superior position compared to everyone who came before, and the vanguard of anything to come. This is true for practical reasons. The more apparent it is that a system is nearing an end, the more reluctant people will be to adhere to its laws. Any social organization will therefore tend to discourage or play down analyses that anticipate its demise. This alone helps ensure that history's great transitions are seldom spotted as they happen. If you know nothing else about the future, you can rest assured that dramatic changes will be neither welcomed nor advertised by conventional thinkers. You cannot depend upon conventional information sources to give you an objective and timely warning about how the world is changing and why. You have little choice but to figure it out for yourself.
SI - The End of Nations, Part 3
Beyond the Obvious The record shows that even transitions that are undeniably real in retrospect may not be acknowledged for decades or even centuries after they happen. Consider the fall of Rome. It was probably the most important historic development in the first millennium of the Christian era. Yet long after Rome's demise, the fiction that it survived was held out to public view, like Lenin's embalmed corpse. No one who depended upon the pretenses of officials for his understanding of the news would have learned that Rome had fallen until long after that information ceased to matter. The reason was not merely the inadequacy of communications in the ancient world. The outcome would have been much the same had CNN miraculously been in business, running its videotape in September 476. That is when the last Roman emperor in the West, Romulus Augustulus, was captured in Ravenna and forcibly retired to a villa in Campania on a pension. Even if Wolfe Blitzer had been there with minicams recording the news in 476, it is unlikely that he or anyone else would have dared to characterize those events as marking the end of the Roman Empire. That, of course, is exactly what latter historians said happened. CNN editors probably would not have approved a headline story saying Rome fell this evening. The powers that be denied that Rome had fallen. Peddlers of news seldom are partisans of controversy in ways that would undermine their own profits. They may be partisan. They may even be outrageously so. But they seldom report conclusions that would convince subscribers to cancel their subscriptions and head for the hills. Which is why few would have reported the fall of Rome even if it had been technologically possible. Experts would have come forth to say that it was ridiculous to speak of Rome falling. To have said otherwise would have been bad for business and, perhaps, bad for the health of those doing the reporting. The powers in late fifth century Rome were barbarians, and they denied that Rome had fallen. But it was not merely a case of authorities' saying, Don't report this or we will kill you. Part of the problem was that Rome was already so degenerate by the later decades of the fifth century that its fall genuinely eluded the notice of most people who lived through it. In fact, it was a generation later before Count Marcellinus first suggested that The Western Roman Empire perished with this Augustulus. 4 Many more decades passed, perhaps centuries, before there was a common acknowledgment that the Roman Empire in the West no longer existed. Certainly Charlemagne believed that he was a legitimate Roman emperor in the year 800. The point is not that Charlemagne and all who thought in conventional terms about the Roman Empire after 476 were fools. To the contrary. The characterization of social developments is frequently ambiguous. When the power of predominant institutions is brought into the bargain to reinforce a convenient conclusion, even one based largely on pretense, only someone of strong character and strong opinions would dare contradict it. If you try to put yourself in the position of a Roman of the late fifth century, it is easy to imagine how tempting it would have been to conclude that nothing had changed. That certainly was the optimistic conclusion. To have thought otherwise might have been frightening. And why come to a frightening conclusion when a reassuring one was at hand? After all, a case could have been made that business would continue as usual. It had in the past. The Roman army, and particularly the frontier garrisons, had been barbarized for centuries. By the third century, it had become regular practice for the army to proclaim a new emperor. By the fourth century, even officers were Germanized and frequently illiterate. There had been many violent overthrows of emperors before Romulus Augustulus was removed from the throne. His departure might have seemed no different to his contemporaries than many other upheavals in a chaotic time. And he was sent packing with a pension. The very fact that he received a pension, even for a brief period before he was murdered, was a reassurance that the system survived. To an optimist, Odoacer, who deposed Romulus Augustulus, reunified rather than destroyed the empire. A son of Attila's sidekick Edecon, Odoacer was a clever man. He did not proclaim himself emperor. Instead, he convened the Senate and! prevailed upon its toosuggestible members that they offer the emperorship and thus sovereignty over the whole empire to Zeno, the Eastern emperor in faraway Byzantium. Odoacer was merely to be Zeno's patricius to govern Italy. As Will Durant wrote in The Story of Civilization, these changes did not appear to be the fall of Rome but merely negligible shifts on the surface of the national scene. When Rome fell, Odoacer said that Rome endured. He, along with almost everyone else, was keen
FBI probes European short-selling
Looks like BL found an effective way to unfreeze his $200-300 million in assets. http://www.msnbc.com/news/629380_asp.htm#BODY
Imagining the Next War: Infrastructural Warfare and the Conditions of Democracy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society those irresistible forces of uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the Government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense ... the nation in wartime attains a uniformity of feeling, hierarchy of values culminating at the undisputed apex of the State ideal, which could not possibly be produced through any other agency than war - --- from the first part of an essay titled The State, left unfinished at Randolph Bourne's untimely death in 1918. much deleted Let us say, then, that George W. Bush commences a war against Osama bin Laden, or even against the greater abstraction of terrorism. What happens then? A state of war is a serious thing. States of war have routinely been used to justify censorship, the curtailing of civil liberties, and the repression of dissidents. States of war are also understood to require the opposition in the legislature to moderate its otherwise essential functions of criticism. Calls are issued to stand behind the political leadership and to display unity, with the implication that the enemy is watching and that failure to unite is tantamount to treason. These are not healthy conditions for a democracy; indeed, they are the opposite of democracy. War in the old conception was temporary: the idea was explicitly that the state of war would end, and that the normal rules of democracy would resume once their conditions had been reestablished. Civil liberties and the institutions of democratic government are not entirely eliminated during wartime; rather, they are reduced in their scope while retaining their same overall form. Even in conditions of total war mobilization, clear boundaries between the military and civilian sides of society are maintained. But war, we are told, no longer works that way. No such boundaries are possible. It follows, therefore, that war in the new sense -- war with no beginning or end, no front and rear, and no distinction between military and civilian -- is incompatible with democracy, and not just in practice, not just temporarily, but permanently and conceptually. If we conceptualize war the way the defense intellectuals suggest, then to declare war is to destroy the conditions of democracy. War, in this new sense, can never be justified. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjui0s8ZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n2BNAJwJbLI5bDKczKMfmnF0bW5pvVskagCaAvgUEipQvNjqKSdM5zaF94gSsJk= =wVvz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: A Brevital Moment (was..Ignore Aimee Farr)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 08:26 PM 9/13/2001 -0500, Aimee Farr wrote: Bell's Assassination Politics put cypherpunks on some protective intelligence agendas. It would not be implausible to assume you were being monitored to see if you run with the seeded assassination memes, if only for analytical purposes. These matters are taken seriously by those charged with the care of protected persons. (Contrary to what some here would have you believe, subtlety can get you a much higher threat-rating than overtly threatening correspondence.) Jim is a fool though not a dangerous one. No one should consider implementing any betting pools till there is enough cover traffic from legit digital cash apps. If one were to be created this would be an ideal time and Ben Laden the ideal target. How many Americans would consider creating such a pool to be evil? Rising to the bait, debating whether such-and-such a purpose is behind Farr's postings, speculating on Farr's true intent, all this does is spur on the postings, the baiting, the provocation. Just say no to responding to ANY of Farr's postings, and I would almost put money that the behavior will extinguish within a week. Baiting? Provocation? No, a caveat. Do not tolerate behavior of that nature. It subjects you all to scrutiny and mischaracterization. What about Mr. K-S that hides behind his hushmail jacket Don't forget the power tie ;-) and asks for names and addresses.why doesn't somebody cuss him out? What, for protected speech and actions? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuhpoAZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n5ptAJ9QKvtPlXbf1nP8ee0uAVTMq4sTiwCgr5PcgT1k7+cwVzKb3BjuwChoCv4= =8WNj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: A Brevital Moment (was..Ignore Aimee Farr)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 08:26 PM 9/13/2001 -0500, Aimee Farr wrote: Bell's Assassination Politics put cypherpunks on some protective intelligence agendas. It would not be implausible to assume you were being monitored to see if you run with the seeded assassination memes, if only for analytical purposes. These matters are taken seriously by those charged with the care of protected persons. (Contrary to what some here would have you believe, subtlety can get you a much higher threat-rating than overtly threatening correspondence.) Jim is a fool though not a dangerous one. No one should consider implementing any betting pools till there is enough cover traffic from legit digital cash apps. If one were to be created this would be an ideal time and Ben Laden the ideal target. How many Americans would consider creating such a pool to be evil? Rising to the bait, debating whether such-and-such a purpose is behind Farr's postings, speculating on Farr's true intent, all this does is spur on the postings, the baiting, the provocation. Just say no to responding to ANY of Farr's postings, and I would almost put money that the behavior will extinguish within a week. Baiting? Provocation? No, a caveat. Do not tolerate behavior of that nature. It subjects you all to scrutiny and mischaracterization. What about Mr. K-S that hides behind his hushmail jacket Don't forget the power tie ;-) and asks for names and addresses.why doesn't somebody cuss him out? What, for protected speech and actions? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuhY2gZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV nx+xAJ44c2wiLze9qfZr+5VQ08KgXKMiQgCeIJIIs5n2g/C1ECaDCcGh+GxYi9o= =G0uG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Shades of X-Files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Unconfirmed reports just coming in that one of the WTC recovered bodies may be that of Chandra Levy... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuhEE8ZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n78HAJ9JGJ6PIj115wGElkbvFFZ97Swl9gCcDh3zUlLiYPI+s3TlIfsMJG4y8X0= =723M -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Debt of honor
It seems quite a few have been making payments lately...eh?
Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel: The SSSCA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- WASHINGTON -- Music and record industry lobbyists are quietly readying an all-out assault on Congress this fall in hopes of dramatically rewriting copyright laws. With the help of Fritz Hollings (D-S.C.), the powerful chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, they hope to embed copy-protection controls in nearly all consumer electronic devices and PCs. All types of digital content, including music, video and e-books, are covered. I think any Senator who signs on for this has earned killing. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuZn90ZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n+PdAJ9jUDWNMjCZz1zmymJde+ZNF4ugpwCeNHQzOK1ukMHqHhypLa1bhsfofg4= =olMy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: US v Miller (was Re: Naughty Journal Author Denied Plea Change
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- What is your source for all this? This case is a point of interest for me and such details as you have provided are not contained in the text of the ruling, so where did they come from? See https://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2337 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuZWv8ZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n18HAKCyudlJecWK7ZT/FGjoscp+qRbvlACfSeiv9CiwbNWW8ga8JQU1YWJ2ijY= =eR8i -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Naughty Journal Author Denied Plea Change
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 06:15 PM 9/6/2001 -0500, amp wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:51 am, David Honig wrote: At 09:49 AM 9/5/01 -0700, John Young wrote: Isn't what is new here is that the man did not publish this material as was the material of Joyce, Miller, et al? Nobody saw it except him and the cop who discovered it. Wasn't it his *parents* who read his journal and turned him in, hoping for 'treatment' instead of jail? Shades of David Ted Kaczynski... Indeed. From press accounts, his mother turned him in. (That's how Fedgov got his diary/notebook from what I understand.) The appelate decision that was recently in the news is that he pled guilty thinking he would get probation/treatment. The judge, in effect said, I don't know why the hell you would have thought that. Lock him up! I'm concerned that Fedgov has been able to successfully prosecute this thoughtcrime using his own private writings. It could very well be possible that writing his evil thoughts down kept him from acting on them. I know that sometimes when I have a good rant building up, I have to just write it to get it out of my system. This case could well have unintended consequences if people finally understand that Fedgov doesn't give a rat's ass about any alleged 'right to privacy'. Americans allegedly have right to 'keep and bear arms' as well, spelled out on paper (currently being used as toilet paper in government offices across the land), but there are thousands of laws regulating against same. This may continue until JDF types with nothing to lose (e.g., diagnosed with a terminal illness) put selected DOJ, FBI and Congressional targets in their sights. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuYFYwZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n/9+AJ9eK/gSpH59ahQrotIOcYbOo8cHQgCeM0ki/sMKBda2tdCstCyN4LqFQWk= =1jll -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Naughty Journal Author Denied Plea Change
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I was referring to the raft of federal firearms regulations and prosecutions which ignore the clear interpretation of Miller v. U.S.: that the right to keep and bear arms with obvious military use shall not be regulated. I was referring to the raft of federal firearms regulations and prosecutions which ignore the clear interpretation of Miller v. U.S.: that the right to keep and bear arms with obvious military use shall not be regulated. The opinion didn't exactly say this because Jack Miller, a bank robber and moonshiner, could not afford representation before the SC and in fact died of apparent self-inflicted wounds before the hearing date. His co-defendent Frank Layton apparently decided he wasn't interested in defending our rights under the 2nd and took four years probation. But despite the lack of defendent representation the opinion, written by Justice James Clark McReynolds, was notable in that it did not completely cave in to the government demands. The case was returned to the lower court where Miller, if living, could have made further arguments on his own behalf. He could have easily and correctly argued that short-barreled shotguns had been popular military weapons in the trenches of the First World War. It was lucky for the federal government that he was dead. The courts and Congress have turned this opinion on its head to suit their own purposes and because many/most in power see such citizen empowerment as nothing short of a Constitutional suicide pact and refuse to accept it. They can't remove the Second but they can try and interpret it away. At 10:58 PM 9/6/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: I'm confused about Fedgov references. This was a state law and a state prosecution and a state judge. Doesn't make it right, but it has little to do with Fedgov. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuYPvcZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n13iAKCAFPkG13VnAYTUPNQPE7uIA9sJ6ACffDhWmo5ELSDMa5FIVuMJqD2RwnI= =QmLS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
New Worms Seek And Destroy Code Red
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- New Worms Seek And Destroy Code Red Amid a debate over the ethics of fighting a virus with a virus, security researchers have separately released two programs that hunt down and patch computers infected with Code Red II. http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/169707.html Since ICANN is somewhat of a virus itself, after they clean up Code Red I think a new virus expanding MS client access to alternate DNS roots would be in order. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Hush 2.0 wmAEARECACAFAjuV2uYZHGtleXNlci1zb3plQGh1c2htYWlsLmNvbQAKCRAg4ui5IoBV n3K0AJ9+agLjR36r4if7rK/HCNaEBA6NMwCfYwQWGbclgTr36orj8WE3L5aBVYs= =3+XH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Arresting Henry Kissinger
At 10:00 PM 8/21/2001 -0500, Mac Norton wrote: Well, under our laws may be a non sequitur here, as I don't think any of the discussion, with one possible exception, has involved any law of the US. As to other laws, most importantly the international body thereof, there is a respectable--note I do not say persuasive, as I don't have enough facts--that Kissinger as a subordinate was carrying out the policy of the state and, as such an actor, may be clothed with sovereign immunity. This is not an uncomplicated area of the law, and is one that gets very deep very fast. It's also one of those areas where the law is about as far divorced from common morality and decency as it ever gets. MacN A subordinate carrying out the policy of the state may still be held responsible if their orders or actions were manifestly illegal (mealy mouth words to be taken to mean whatever they wish). Of course, this begs the question was Kissinger following any direct/explicit orders regarding what transpired in Chile or did take the details of carrying out the matter on himself thus offering the Pres plausible deniability. Journal of Conflict and Security Law Volume 6, Issue 1: June 2001. http://www3.oup.co.uk/jconsl/current/pdf/060003.pdf The Boundaries of Liability In International Criminal Law, or `Selectivity by Stealth' Robert Cryer. 3.1 Superior Orders The issue of superior orders has traditionally been a dif ?cult one, although to read the Nuremberg IMT Charter on the matter,those thinking it to be simple could be forgiven.The Nuremberg IMT Charter simply provides:[t ]he fact that the defendant acted pursuant to order of his government or of a superior shall not free him from responsibility,but may be considered in mitigation of punishment if the Tribunal determines that justice so requires. Still, both Control Council Law 10 and the Nuremberg Principles asserted the view that superior orders were not a defence (Principle IV). This is possibly theNuremberg Principle around which most controversy has centred.A major reason for this has been the relatively low uptake for this position in national laws. This need not be fatal to the claim that the Nuremberg provision represents the law,but the position is weakened by the presence of contrary practice.This contrary practice began in the Nuremberg subsequent proceedings , in which US tribunals,in the Einsatzgruppen and High Command cases,seemed to use the manifest illegality test,as did certain other judgments in the direct post-war period. Expressions of that test have continued in various cases up to the present day, although the defence has been generally rejected, on the facts at least. In the sphere of international legislation, suggestions were made to include provisions relating to superior orders. All were rejected as they did not gather enough support. The ILC has wavered on the! total exclusion of the defence, and academic opinion has been split. The schism is between those asserting the manifest illegality test, and those adopting the position that superior orders are never a defence per se, but may be a relevant factor for other defences, such as duress. In practice, the difference may not be particularly important, as the orders in cases coming to trial will probably be considered manifestly illegal. That does not mean it will never be so, particularly in matters such as targeting,where the application of the rule to the facts may be dif?cult.B y the early 1990s, the simple fact was that either position could be asserted and receive a fair level of support. ... Opposition came from another group led by the US,who clung to the manifest illegality test,as the position,lex lata .79 The result was a compromise,and not comfortable one. Article 33 reads: 1.The fact that a crime within the jurisdiction of the Court has been committed by a person pursuant to an order of a government or of superior,whether military or civilian,shall not relieve that person of criminal responsibility unless: (a)That person was under a legal obligation to obey orders of the Government or the superior in question; (b)The person did not know that the order was unlawful;and (c)The order was not manifestly unlawful. 2.For the purposes of this article,orders to commit genocide or crimes against humanity are manifestly unlawful. Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com
Re: FBI Tries to Set Up Brian K. West
Will someone publish the home address of the prosecuting attorney and judge issuing the warrant? At 12:04 PM 8/18/2001 -0700, you wrote: http://www.linuxfreak.org/post.php/08/17/2001/134.html Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com
Re: FBI Tries to Set Up Brian K. West
At Sun, 19 Aug 2001 11:08:11 -0700 (PDT), Ray Dillinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will someone publish the home address of the prosecuting attorney and judge issuing the warrant? There are serious risks in doing so. Having such a post linked to your meatspace identity could result in persecution - and most likely eventually prosecution as well. An exercise left to the eventual poster. Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com
Re: FBI Tries to Set Up Brian K. West
At 02:28 PM 8/19/2001 -0700, John Young wrote: The name of the prosecuting attorney is on the plea bargain sent to Brian, copy below. I agree that this kind of once-okay data-mining and publishing will now get you Bell-jarred, CJ-jugged. Only if identified and then only if you are U.S. property. I wonder how many of those on this list, who profess competence in such matters and agreement with the principle, would be willing to put their skills to the test and able to succeed. Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com
Re: eRevolution: Hacker Arrest Stirs Protest
At 01:50 PM 7/19/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, the case should still go to trial, and other companies targeted by this sort of behavvior should copy the Adobe approach perhaps get extradition procedures against people in other nations engaged in similar behavior. The hacker standard of rock throwing, at technology that is unneccessarily fragile, is as welcome to the users of this technology, as are the peers who knock down rural mail boxes, rob retailers at gun point, play loud music on public highways, create computer viruses, send us e-spam, phone us at home with recorded messages. A pox on all of you. We users blast victims of DDOS for poor security and blast vendors for fragile products, but the scum from under rocks is ultimately responsible a chill is needed to discourage such activity. If a few could be executed for treason, so much the better, but I suspect international laws against the death penalty for stuff that is not even a crime in other countires would make it easier to prosecute if the death penalty is not requested. Yes, and I can't wait till anonymous betting pools, using untraceable ecash, are available so I can wager on the length of your current stay in this plain of existance. I grant you that there is a problem with legislation against tools when it should be against how the tools are used, but this guy at a hacker convention, reinforcing the erroneous stereotype of law enforcement that these tools are primarily for black hackers. He was at Defcon because its one of the few high-profile venues allowing those conducting research into these areas. Note how Ed Felton was forced to withdraw from his planned Usenix presentation. Besides, whatever he might have alledgedly done was done in Russia not the U.S. The FBI could have blocked his entry into the U.S. instead the decided to make him a poster child. Extending U.S. laws into another soverign nation is a very dangerous move and likely to backfire on Americans abroad. I hope the FBI photographed identified all attendees on suspicion of treason, and are getting judge warrants to surveil them hopefully catch most of the hacker convention attendees in the act of doing what they think is standard acceptable behavior but do not realize that they are looked upon by the rest of the world as the new e-mafia corrupt morality barbarians who know how to tear things down are not interested in making a contribution to society. See my above comment on betting pools. Free, secure Web-based email, now OpenPGP compliant - www.hushmail.com
Sony, Warner Agree on Standard Aimed at Protecting Digital Content
July 17, 2001 Tech Center Sony, Warner Agree on Standard Aimed at Protecting Digital Content By ANNA WILDE MATHEWS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Two big Hollywood studios reached agreements to back technology that protects digital content as it moves between home devices such as set-top boxes, computers and televisions. The accords, expected to be announced Tuesday, represent an early step toward the future of digital home-entertainment networks, in which consumers could make digital copies of programs and view them on several different devices. The agreements involve Sony Corp.'s Sony Pictures Entertainment and AOL Time Warner Inc.'s Warner Bros. studio. They reached the licensing agreements with the Digital Transmission Licensing Administrator, an alliance of five big manufacturers that is widely referred to as the 5C group: Intel Corp., Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Toshiba Corp., Sony and Hitachi Ltd. The new agreements will one day allow consumers to make digital recordings of some content produced by the Sony and Warner Bros. studios, using their computers or digital video recorders. But the agreements fall far short of an industry consensus, as major entertainment giants such as Walt Disney Co. and Vivendi Universal SA have yet to endorse the standard. The biggest stumbling block is the security of free broadcast programming that is received through TV antennas. Negotiations over the issue have gone on for years. Consumer-products makers want to sell digital devices that will connect with each other in home networks, including digital video recorders. For their part, entertainment companies are worried about consumers making perfect, unauthorized digital copies of their most valuable programs, and zapping them around the world free of charge. More than 50 companies have already licensed the security technology, including makers of set-top cable boxes and consumer-electronics products. But Sony and Warner are the first major Hollywood studios to sign on. Entertainment companies won't let their movies and shows be used in the new home digital networks until they are satisfied with how they will be protected. Under the deals reached between the two studios and the electronics giants, certain instructions and restrictions could be embedded in digital content such as movies. The agreements essentially set up several classes of protection, according to people familiar with them. The most protected class includes pay-per-view movies, which the entertainment companies would be able to prevent consumers from copying without permission. Consumers would be able to record portions of pay-per-view movies, however. The second category includes pay-TV cable programming such as that available on ESPN and HBO. For that, consumers would be able to make a limited number of first generation digital copies. But entertainment companies could prevent consumers from duplicating those copies. The question of how to protect content that comes from over-the-air broadcasters is tricky. If consumers receive such broadcasts via cable set-top boxes or satellite dishes, the security technology will allow them to make several digital copies of programs, though consumers could be blocked from retransmitting that content over the Internet. But the new security technology is essentially powerless to stop consumers from copying and retransmitting such broadcasts if they receive them via antenna. In congressional testimony earlier this year, a Warner official told lawmakers that today's technology can do little that is meaningful to actually prevent signals received over the air from appearing on the Internet. But we do not want to delay the rollout of other types of protectable digital TV until an as-yet-undeveloped solution comes into being. Nonetheless, Disney and other studios -- some of which own broadcast networks -- are holding out for something that would better protect programming that is broadcast over the air. Write to Anna Wilde Mathews at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com
Re: Napster + StegoMPEG: prelude to eternity
At 11:04 AM 5/7/00 -0400, David Honig wrote: An issue in Eternity systems is how to motivate participants. You can pay storers or retrievers, but this introduces biasses that have been discussed here. Other motivational structures have been proposed [1] too. But why is Joe Sixpack going to install some program that he'll rarely use? Instead, Stego your Eternal data into MP3s and propogate. The MP3 propogation structure is there, in Napster, and more robust distributed-index versions that will follow. After some percolation [2] time, the info will be pretty hard to remove. You can reveal the key then. You could search for the data by MP3 name and/or size and/or other parameters, like Wrapster does. Or the Stego's MP3 could be identical in size to other MP3s of the same name, for stealth, and you'd have to download several and try to decrypt them. The beauty is that the carrier data, being aesthetically pleasing, has created an infrastructure for us. The charm is that a million tuneswapping Americans will just laugh when they get requests from Her Inbred Majesty. Maybe Shayler's next installment will be in the form of a Carl Johnson tune... = You still must delineate the stego'd version from the others without arousing suspicion. Insert any unusual stuff in the name and Joe Sixpack may stay clear. One should make the stego'd versions more attractive in some way to Joe Sixpack. One of the shortcomings of Napster is its dependance on MP3 files of which can become truncated without detection until it is downloaded and played. A real disappointment to downloaders, especially those with slow links. Since the advent of Wrapster (a WinZIP-like tool for converting any group of files to a MP3-like appearance) some cleaver users have included the original (and hopefully correct) file length as part of the name. This is especially handy for the longer warez files, but could be used for Eternity purposes. I have yet to see a single music MP3 on Napster including the file length. Those with this addition are likely to be favored over the common variety, displacing them and encouraging the retention of Eternity MP3s. So has anyone developed an MP3 stego program? IMPORTANT NOTICE: If you are not using HushMail, this message could have been read easily by the many people who have access to your open personal email messages. Get your FREE, totally secure email address at http://www.hushmail.com.
