su - sourcecode
hello, could some generous soul familiar with the login source, explain how to patch, merge or whatever the loginutils source for su ? i have the logintutils_1.0-5.tar.gz and loginutils_1.0-5.diff.gz from ftp.debian.org but am confused as to what needs to be run in which order. is this the right pkg ? do i patch first ? when do i run debian.rules ? i keep getting strange errors and also need to know is this the version that supports /etc/suauth ? i grepped the source but could find no reference to that filename and would like to make some improvements to the source base if i can just work out how to patch and make the binaries, if a maintainer would assist me i'd appreciate it cheers ++ || | _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ | | _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ | |_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/| | _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ | | _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/ | || || | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Software Engineering in C++ and SQL | ++ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EIDE/ATAPI CDROM
I have a question concerning my cd-rom. When the kernel boots up, all of the cd drivers can't find my drive. It is a Creative Labs 8X model 840. It is connected to my promise EIDE controller as the 2nd drive. What driver should I use, is there a generic ATAPI driver that will work for my drive (and how do I install it?)? Thanks, Eric -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OK to install across 2 HDs?
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Mark Blunier wrote: I would use hda and hdb. I don't have an eide controller so I don't have an hdc or hdd. Some might prefer to use hda and hdc, since both drives could be masters, but if you have an ide cdrom, I would use hda, and hdb, as I believe the cdrom can slow down the other side, ie cdrom on hdd slows down hdc. I've got two WD1.2s in my workstation (Win95/WinNT/DebianLinux). I had the two drives on primary master/slave, with CD as secondary slave. I noticed INCREDIBLE slowness in 95's ScanDisk when doing a thorough scan, so I fired up System Monitor and watched filesystem reads, bytes/sec. My primary master was showing 1.5MBytes/sec read performance, while my primary slave was showing 150KBytes/sec read performance. I (carefully) slid the second drive back to secondary master and moved the CD-ROM to secondary slave, and now both drives show nearly identical (i.e. 1.5MB) performance in ScanDisk. While we're on the subject of identical hard drives, can anyone tell me how to get both of my WD1.2s to show up with the same CHS? I can't seem to squeeze in a bootable (C1024) partition after the 800M in the beginning. Thanks, --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Okay, here is what I have learned... The Debian 1.2 Disk release version is broken. There is no ftp or dpkg-ftp program installed to your machine if you get all the Disks and do a fresh install. Basically you are screwed :( Dselect will not work because there is no ftp. Nobody understands what the problem is because everybody upgraded from a previous version, so they already had all the files they needed. I post this in order to save others in the same boat all the frustration and headaches I have gone through in wanting to get Debian. Many thanks to everyone who wrote me personally and helped me figure all this out! :) I see that there is a Debian 1.2.1 on the site now, so I am going to give it a try. I assume that I griped enough, then :) If not, where can I get 1.1? Apparently it worked from disks on a clean install. Also, is there another list I need to be on to get announcements about new releases / fixes, etc? I would not have known about 1.2.1 if I hadn't noticed it while looking for 1.1 disks... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
g77 problems
When trying to run g77 on 1.2 I get gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory g77 -v gives gcc -v -fnull-version -o /tmp/gfa02858 -xf77-cpp-input /dev/null -xnone Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/specs gcc version 2.7.2.1 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/cpp -lang-c -v -undef -D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=7 -D__ELF__ -D__unix__ -D__i386__ -D__linux__ -D__unix -D__i386 -D__linux -Asystem(unix) -Asystem(posix) -Acpu(i386) -Amachine(i386) -D_LANGUAGE_FORTRAN -traditional -D__i486__ /dev/null /tmp/cca02858.i GNU CPP version 2.7.2.1 (i386 Linux/ELF) #include ... search starts here: #include ... search starts here: /usr/local/include /usr/i486-linux/include /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/include /usr/include End of search list. f771 /tmp/cca02858.i -fset-g77-defaults -quiet -dumpbase null.F -version -fversion -fnull-version -o /tmp/cca02858.s gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory Still f771 exists: locate f771 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/f771 Suggestions? Kaj Wiik [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nevermind 1.2.1
Well, turns out that 1.2.1 is the same as 1.2-fixed, which I have already installed and it too is broken. So now the big question is, where can I get 1.1? Regards, Kendrick -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel compile fail
THanks to everyone who helped me with my compile problem. The good news is that i compiled a 2.0.27 kernel sucessfully, the bad news is that it would not boot:( I get the error Unable to mount root fd on 08:01 VFS: Cannnot open root kernel panic And then it stalls. The only difference between the two kernels is as follows versions numbers (my orginal kernel is 2.0.0) The new kernel had quotas turned on, as well as the the dual processer options turned on. I also uncommented the SNP (or is SMP?) options in the make file and changed make to MAKE = -j3 Any help aprreciated... It takes a breeze to make a banner speak The Singer -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian mailing list failure.
Hello all, I'm having some difficulties in getting ppp to work for me and while reading this group have noticed references to a perl script which functions as ftp for initial releases so that dpkg/dselect can do an ftp installation from debian.org or its mirrors. If anyone could send me that script via e-mail or its name so I could find it on my CD or on debian.org using WinDoze95, I'd be very grateful. TIA. Ralph -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need information from people who have had problems with booting
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] is building a new boot disk set while I am out cleaning up after a flood in my home and have no working computers. I know there are a number of people who have had trouble booting for various reasons, and Dale does not have any of the feedback you gave me. Please send him information on what drivers hang up your system, etc. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping reply without OS
Hello, My real complain is when I read System halted, my assumption has always been that the cpu has executed the x86 HALT instruction . Why not, it consumes a lot less enery in this state. It does. But on the other hand interrupt handler may still be active. On linux for example the CPU is halted in the idle task, too. Therefore it will consume much less energy. Thats why you can even get ping replies if your kernel is in an endless loop, cause the incomming data and the irq from the card will interrupt its work and calls the bottom half handler. It's an error if the kernel forgets to unregister all those interrupt routines on halt, but its an understandable 'feature'. But it should NOT happen if you shut down the interface before halt (ifconfig down). Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +4972573817 BE5-RIPE (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 problems
Kaj Wiik wrote: When trying to run g77 on 1.2 I get gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory Hehehe, I fought with this for awhile - there are a lot of dependencies I don't fully understand, but here is what worked for me (these weren't blind changes, sorta educated guesses): gcc seems to use the files in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1, but the f771 was installed in ../2.7.2. So, the solution seems to be a simple link (actually two) cd /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1 ln -s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/f771 f771 ln -s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/libf2c.a libf2c.a This worked for me, and I've been able to compile some real heavy-duty code. I don't fully understand these dependencies, though, so I'd appreciate it if someone would tell me (or all of us) if I did a stupid thing. Also, if you installed gnat (not gnats), you may find that gcc won't work anymore - I'd recommend un-installing this if, like me, you don't fully understand what's going on - again, works for me, but I don't understand the whole picture... -- Don Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Math Sciences Voice (405) 581-2396 Cameron University Fax (405) 581-2616 Lawton, OK 73505http://www.cameron.edu/~morton -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radius 2.0
Has anyone sucessfully compiled Radius 2.0 with shadow on a Debian box? Peace michael Faith is not something to lean on, its something to stand on. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestion
Hi Joe -- You said: I have been reading this list for a few weeks now, and I wonder if someone could regularly post and maintain the . I'll call it debian FAQ, for lack of a better term. It would be very worthwhile to keep a list of unique debian questions and answers. I'm one of the authors of the Debian FAQ, which was last updated early last Fall. I'd certainly agree we need to update it if that's what you're saying. But perhaps you just wondered if one existed, and didn't know where it was. In that case, here are two places: 1) If you've installed the doc-debian package, you'll see the FAQ in /usr/doc/debian/FAQ. 2) There are links to the FAQ on the debian WWW site. Cheers, Susan Kleinmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys
From: Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] What's the best way to swap the Caps Lock and left Control keys under X windows? I just read the config files and man XF86Config. Add the following to the Keyboard section of XF86Config: XkbRules xfree86 XkbModel microsoft XkbLayout us XkbOptions ctrl:swapcaps If you want the control keys _and_ caps lock to both do control, use ctrl:nocaps. All possible values for the above are listed in /usr/X11/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86 This is the proper way to fix the control keys with XFree 3.2. Where's the documentation on that? It seems to be hiding pretty well here on my system. E.g., the XF86Config man page doesn't seem to say what options can go in the options after XbdOptions. Also, why do you suggest microsoft? (How do I see what all that would get me?) Daniel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Kendrick Myatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dselect will not work because there is no ftp. No, dselect's ftp method, dpkg-ftp, uses perl's Net::FTP to do ftp (the protocol). It does not require ftp (the client). Use dselect to get netstd and you'll have ftp (the client). Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control - more info. and caps lock from loadkeys
From: Orn E. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the information, thought not for the possible attitude. (Ho= w would someone know to look in xmodmap?) = There was no attitude... apologies if I sounded that way. Oh, okay. Sorry I mis-perceived your message. Daniel -- Daniel S. Barclay Compass Design Automation, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 100, 5457 Twin Knolls Rd. Columbia, MD 21045 USA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: su - sourcecode
hello, could some generous soul familiar with the login source, explain how to patch, merge or whatever the loginutils source for su ? You should use the 'su' source in 'shellutils'... which is the latest GNU source... -- Ørn Einar Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax; +46 035 217194 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do people on this list backup stuff?
Before I tell you what I do to make a perfect and bootable copy of your current Linux setup, let me tell you how I have my hard drives configured. the problem with this is that if you backup errors or a program upgrade that you later decided that you didn't want you can't get to the previous backups because you just overwrote them with the new backup. Absolutely, it is a problem. That's why I keep a second proven but older backup drive. Doesn't solve all the problems, but it will provide an excellent base from which to start repairs. also, it is better to put backups on removable media so that it is possible to move them offsite. and that doesn't mean that you are stuck with tape drives either -- i use a Jaz drive. Yeap. I have a great fear of fire. That's why I put the second drive in a fire proof box. Paul Serice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [1.2 installation]: how to tell X to follow swapping of control and caps lock from loadkeys
Where's the documentation on that? It seems to be hiding pretty well here on my system. E.g., the XF86Config man page doesn't seem to say what options can go in the options after XbdOptions. Also, why do you suggest microsoft? (How do I see what all that would get me?) Why dont u use the grafical setup tool XF86Setup? There is a menu point for configuration of the keyboard. It will display the keyboards you may select and allows you to use checkboxes for the options. This tool should be started automatically if you istall the Xfree86 3.2 packages! Can't you rember it or din't u see it yet? Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +4972573817 BE5-RIPE (OO) If privacy is outlawed only Outlaws have privacy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
Paul == Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul --cut-here--- Paul You just have to append the following lines to Paul /var/lib/dpkg/status: I thought the ``provides'' field should contain ONLY the ``agreed'' (discussed in debian-devel) virtual package names. Does dpkg work if the virtual package names are not official? Paul Maybe somebody else has already developed a fine wrapper script Paul for an installation of the teTeX binary distribution without Paul dangerful messing around with system files? I think unlike netscape, most of teTeX should be free and therefore don't need a wrapper package a la netscape. -- Billy C.-M. Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Systems Engineering The Chinese University of Hong Kong -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need information from people who have had problems with booting
Bruce Perens wrote: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] is building a new boot disk set while Sven made a 'root' disk for 1.2 meg floppies. However, I'm now getting a 'bad sector' or 'bad track' at about track 78/79 (goes by fast). I've used ScanDisk from Micro$oft and it report all that floppies OK. I've also tried the base12-1.bin and get the same results. Can I have a whole box of disk OK for dos and bad for linux? Thanx -- Greg. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need information from people who have had problems with booting
Gregory Vence wrote: Bruce Perens wrote: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] is building a new boot disk set while Sven made a 'root' disk for 1.2 meg floppies. However, I'm now getting a 'bad sector' or 'bad track' at about track 78/79 (goes by fast). I've used ScanDisk from Micro$oft and it report all that floppies OK. I've also tried the base12-1.bin and get the same results. Can I have a whole box of disk OK for dos and bad for linux? Thanx -- Greg. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] One last thing was that I've used the Jan 7 images. Was that a bad choice? Thanx again -- Greg. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DNS and Debian
Out of interest can a server be its own domain name server without routings its own IP address? Im out like bell bottom trousers, michael The Internet is a perfect diversion from learning...[it] opens many doors that lead to empty rooms. - Cliff Stoll, skeptical author of _The_Cuckoo's_Egg_ and _Silicon_Snake_Oil_, at Aug. 16 Bay Area EFF meeting. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: get-news.inn script in suck-3.3.2-1 package...
On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:
/var/spool/news//var/spool/news/jogu/test/1 does not exist--relevant part
The variable -p ${SPOOLDIR} expands to /var/spool/news/ and gets
prefixed to the articles numbers to be posted as stated in
/var/spool/news/.outgoing/name.of.news.site ($OUTGOING) which already
are listed there containing the full path of their location on the local
site's spool. Therefore the whole thing expands to the following name
Paul,
The problem is you have set up your inn newsfeeds file to put the full
path into the name.of.news.site file instead of the relative path. You
need to use an entry of the form:
name.of.news.site\
:!junk/!local,!control\
:Tf,Wnm:name.of.news.site
Use n instead of f in the W parameters.
Alternatively, you can continue to modify the scripts provided with suck
each time (nothing wrong with that either).
Frank
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Install problems - InfoMagic LDR
I just purchased the most recent version of the LDR a few days ago. Having read so much about Debian being the superior versions of Linux, and having been less than thrilled with previous versions of RedHat and Slackware, I thought I'd give it a try. All of the diskettes load correctly, but when I get into Dselect, it can't find the main directories to start off of the root (contrib, etc). Has anyone been successful in installing Debian 1.2 from the December InfoMagic LDR? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tecra Rescue Disk
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Kirk Hilliard wrote: With some help from Martin Stromberg I have built a temporary replacement rescue disk for Toshiba Tecra 700 series laptops. (They cannot boot a normal bzImage loaded by lilo.) It has the same generic 2.0.27 kernel as in the 1996-12-8 resq1440.bin rescue disk, but with Jens Maurer's kernel patch. This should help out until the new boot disks arrive. You can find my resq144t.bin at http://www.math.virginia.edu/~kdh5j/debian/tecra730 Kirk Hilliard Thanks for working so fast on this! This is great. I have some bad news to report though. I did the upgrade to 5.80 BIOS for the 720 and the problem persists. I sent Jen mail about it. Your rescue disk works fine though. Now I just need to install that kernel. Any idea how to do that? I tried activating an older kernel (2.0.6) but I can't run lilo correctly. I tried to do a chroot, but it gives an error about not being able to resolve 'chroot' symbols. This is probably on account of the slimmed down libc on the recue set. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any PPP-connection keeping utility ?
I would like to keep my PPP connection busy even during the time, when I don't use it. Otherwise my ISP will log-me-off after a couple of idle minutes. A work around is to telnet to any Internet sites and start a loop (in my case in csh): % while 1 sleep 120 date end This works but I would prefer something more *automatic*, i.e. which will work without my explicit action. Does it exist any Debian package which would do the above line keeping ? TIA, Zenon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any PPP-connection keeping utility ?
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Zenon Fortuna wrote: I would like to keep my PPP connection busy even during the time, when I don't use it. Otherwise my ISP will log-me-off after a couple of idle minutes. A work around is to telnet to any Internet sites and start a loop (in my case in csh): you could look into diald. it provides isp connect service on demand or can be configured to keep a connection up. other than that you can do what i do and use fetchpop (off of sunsite) to poll your pop server every five minutes for mail. it runs as a daemon, is small, compiles easily, and is easy to use. it also keeps my connection up by generating the small amount of network activity that it does. good luck. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do people on this list backup stuff?
On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Pete Templin wrote: On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Walter Tautz wrote: I am curious to find out how people back stuff? Specifically I am interested in finding out whether it is necessary to use a tape system or is it also possible to use another hardrive. Afterall, it would appear a hardrive is cheaper than a *quality* tape system? I'm using a perl script to automate a series of dumps. I run a full backup of /, /usr, /var, /home once a week, with an incremental every night except full night. For space reasons, I'd rather not post the script here, but it's free to anyone for the asking I have an HP/Colorado T1000 tape drive, but wouldn't recommend it. It's quite small relative to my filesystems (400MB per tape), and I'd love to hear what tape drives work well (i.e. easily) on a SCSI bus. It's slow, IMO, but that doesn't matter when your backups run via cron. I am using a Seagate (formerly Conner) TS8000 at home and a TS4000 at work - 8MB and 4MB respectively. They are really the same drive, the 8000 accepts the Travan cartridge format. These are SCSI-2 devices, and use a wide QIC tape. The mfr. claims up to 50MB / min. x-fer rate, but I have seen 20MB maximum, with 10-12 more the average over the ethernet. This is with 32bit (Buslogic) bus mastering controllers. The TS4000 does daily backups of a 1G Novell server, and has been in service for approx 2.5 months. I have used the 8000 to backup (tar) and restore Redhat 4.0, with no problems to report. At approx. $325 for the 4000 and $369 for the 8000, I think these are very economical choices, competitive with the hard drive alternative. The 4G cart's (1.86 non-compressed) retail for $30, the 8G for $40. = Looking for crack? Call 1-CIA-ARMS-4-DRUGS | When I took bread to the (see http://www.sjmercury.com/drugs/| poor, people said I was a Don't be too concerned, they have promised | saint. But when I asked why to investigate themselves! | they were poor, people said D.A.R.E. to abolish the CIA | I was a Communist. | John Karns | Father Helder Camera [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any PPP-connection keeping utility ?
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Zenon Fortuna wrote: I would like to keep my PPP connection busy even during the time, when I don't use it. Otherwise my ISP will log-me-off after a couple of idle minutes. This works but I would prefer something more *automatic*, i.e. which will work without my explicit action. I put this in my /etc/ppp/ip-up script: ping -i 120 $5 /dev/null 21 ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIDE/ATAPI CDROM
I have a question concerning my cd-rom. When the kernel boots up, all of the cd drivers can't find my drive. It is a Creative Labs 8X model 840. It is connected to my promise EIDE controller as the 2nd drive. What driver should I use, is there a generic ATAPI driver that will work for my drive (and how do I install it?)? If your CDROM is really the second drive (slave) on the primary controller, Linux should autodetect it fine. However, try hdb=cdrom on the boot command line (press Shift at the LILO prompt, type Linux hdb=cdrom, etc). The Linux ATAPI CD-ROM driver is pretty generic but doesn't seem to like the Creative drives too much. I have a CR-821E which works okay but causes some nasty problems occasionally. Mine's also faulty so hopefully I'll replacing it with a Panasonic one pretty soon. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Chow Chi-Ming wrote: I thought the ``provides'' field should contain ONLY the ``agreed'' (discussed in debian-devel) virtual package names. Does dpkg work if the virtual package names are not official? Obviously it does here without problems. Sorry, i don't know of this discussion. This debian-user list here is already too much to take for me for it's high traffic. ;-) Paul Maybe somebody else has already developed a fine wrapper script Paul for an installation of the teTeX binary distribution without Paul dangerful messing around with system files? I think unlike netscape, most of teTeX should be free and therefore don't need a wrapper package a la netscape. No, a wrapper is just for installing a binary distribution of a program not available in native Debian format. Binaries for teTeX could be installed just like netscape's inside the Debian package management scheme, that's all. Doesn't have anything to do with whether the program is free or not. But for teTeX is valid that it is available in source and that it is available under the GPL. Someone else in this list already suggested to use the RedHat *.rpm of teTeX for installation via the 'alien' command which should work as well. If it wouldn't be too much to ask from a naive ethnologist like me i'd really love to package teTeX as native Debian package and provide it for the rest of the Debian user commnity. But that's probably too much strange magic for my small brain... ;-) Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v4)
I just installed the new Debian Logo Page (v4) today. You can have a look at it via http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/ I filled out an old version of this page a while back, took quite a while, only to be told that cgi.debian.org was down. However, this time after several more minutes writing comments, etc, I get Error 403 The Fatman Server understood your request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and your request should not be repeated. This message is commonly used when the Fatman Server does not wish to reveal exactly why your request has been refused, or when no other response is applicable. OFF LIMITS From your site you do not have the right of access to this protected area. The reason might be sweet revenge: Do you refuse finger connections? Are you sitting behind a firewall? Did you publicly sneer at the Fatman Server? [insert offensive picture here] Rather offensive I thought. I just checked and yes, although I am using ip masqueradering, the masq machine is allowing public finger requests. Hamish (rather pissed off.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any PPP-connection keeping utility ?
I put this in my /etc/ppp/ip-up script: ping -i 120 $5 /dev/null 21 ^ | what is it? not found in man page lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dslect request
I wish that dselect had an option to state where it was installing things and I wish the entire transcript could be written to a file and I wish (as previously stated but evidently ignored) that all the Skipping package ... could be skipped for speed's sake. -- terrence brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephones: home: 818-844-6401 360 S. Euclid Ave #124, Pasadena, CA 91101 /o)\fax: 213-740-5687 http://rana.usc.edu:8376/~brannon \(o/ that's right, 56*8*7 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install problems - InfoMagic LDR
At 11:46 PM 5/01/97 -0500, you wrote: I just purchased the most recent version of the LDR a few days ago. . Has anyone been successful in installing Debian 1.2 from the December InfoMagic LDR? I am also very interested in hearing from others who have purchased InfoMagic LDR CD's. Is it good value or am I better off with iConnect's CD's. I am a first time Linux user. I install Debian 1.2 by downloading over the internet. I'm running it on my spare PC. A IBM MB 486SLC2-66, with 80Mb Hd, 4 Mb Ram. A bit slow but it well do for playing/learning with Linux. My interest is using Linux as a mail gateway for a Win95/Win3.11 LAN. The setup would be like this. 1. The Linux PC would dial into local ISP. Get each users mail from the local ISP. e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. I presume the mail gateway software can read a userlist file ?? 2. Each PC user would then check the Linux mail server by using a Windows based mail package (e.g. Eudora) or telnet to the Linux PC and use Unix Mail command from a login shell. Is it possible. What packages would you recommend for 1. mail gateway software (e.g. fetchmail,sendmail etc) 2. to make the dial up connection (ISP would allocate IP on login) Regards Brian -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 problems
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Don Morton wrote: gcc seems to use the files in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1, but the f771 was installed in ../2.7.2. So, the solution seems to be a simple link (actually two) cd /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1 ln -s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/f771 f771 ln -s /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/libf2c.a libf2c.a Worked for me also, thanks, you saved my day (and week :)). Cheers, Kaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing metamail with emacs19.34.1
I installed the metamail package and followed the directions in /usr/doc/metamail/mailers.txt.gz to make my emacs (rmail) mime aware. It seems to work, though I haven't looked at many types of files. The only correction I wanted to make is that we don't have to have transparent.el around and the stuff to include in the rmail.el file should have the (require 'transparent) line removed. The code works fine with out of the box Debian 1.2 emacs19.34.1 but the transparent.el that I pulled off the net did not. By the way, is there a way to split the files included in a mail message back into separate files? Thanks, Nathan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v4)
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: I just installed the new Debian Logo Page (v4) today. You can have a look at it via http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/ I filled out an old version of this page a while back, took quite a while, only to be told that cgi.debian.org was down. However, this time after several more minutes writing comments, etc, I get Error 403 The Fatman Server understood your request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and your request should not be repeated. This message is commonly used when the Fatman Server does not wish to reveal exactly why your request has been refused, or when no other response is applicable. OFF LIMITS From your site you do not have the right of access to this protected area. The reason might be sweet revenge: Do you refuse finger connections? Are you sitting behind a firewall? Did you publicly sneer at the Fatman Server? [insert offensive picture here] Rather offensive I thought. I just checked and yes, although I am using ip masqueradering, the masq machine is allowing public finger requests. I'm really sorry about this all. The technical problem was: The cgi script referenced in the html page was still referring to the wrong location (the one which I tested at home). I fixed this and it is (hopefully :-) working now. The other problem: I'm not the fatman administrator and don't have root access. These (really offensive) messages were installed by the admin. I don't like these either and have contacted him today and asked if they could be replaced. Please excuse this incident, I'll see what I can change. Chris -- _,, Christian Schwarz / o \__ [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ! ___; [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / \\\__/ !PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA \ / http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/ -.-.,---,-,-..---,-,-.,.-.- DIE ENTE BLEIBT DRAUSSEN! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install problems - InfoMagic LDR
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Brian Sheaff wrote: I am also very interested in hearing from others who have purchased InfoMagic LDR CD's. Is it good value or am I better off with iConnect's CD's. I bought the september '96 release and wouldn't bother about any InfoMagic set anymore at all. Maybe it is okay for RedHat users but not for users of Debian. IMHO the inclusion of Debian-1.2 was this time at a very much too early stage and it can not considered to be as complete and up to date as any freshly written CD from I-Connect. I'd order a CD from them as soon as Debian-1.2.1 appears on the FTP master server. BTW CheapBytes http://www.cheapbytes.com; are planning to offer a Debian CD distribution sometime soon as they have written in answer to an email i sent them yesterday. But based upon their bargain offers i personally doubt they'll let funds flow back into Debian development like I-Connect usually does. Their email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUN pkg - deb?
Is there any program that can covert SUN pkg packaging format to debian deb format? lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Password
Nathan L. Cutler wrote: Chuma == Chuma Agbodike [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chuma Today I booted linux and it won't let me in. I log in as Chuma root and give it CR at password prompt. Keeps rejecting Chuma me. Chuma How do I get around this? I hate to think that I have to re Chuma install from scratch after all the work I did getting it to Chuma where I like it. Try booting from your trusty rescue diskette (what? you don't have one?) (which will automatically log you in as root). Mount the root partition under /mnt or something appropriate to your rescue diskette and use 'vi' to edit /etc/passwd. An entry for 'root' with no password looks something like this: root::0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash (the space between the first and second colons should be empty). HTH Thanks to all that responded. Maybe I did not make a rescue disk the right way. I tried to boot from my rescue diskette, but the system kept bringing up the LINUX on hard disk and thereby still refusing access because of wrong password. So I used the INSTALL BOOT and ROOT diskettes. Somewhere in the menu it offered mount a previously prepared disk partition or something to that effect. I did and the took execute a shell. From there I got access to /etc/passwd. Edited root passwd to blank. Anyway I was wrong about there not being a passwd. I obviously forgot it. Well the install insisted that I enter a password which I eventually did. Then Dpkg came up and I quit it. Booted and gave it the new passwd I picked. Not to have this repeat, I went back into the passwd file and made root passwd blank. But HOW does one make RESCUE disk properly. Mine surely didn't rescue me! Chuma Agbodike -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help please: installation of TeTeX on a Debian machine.
On 6 Jan 1997, James LewisMoss wrote: I'm not in any way involved with NTeX development, but I have installed it on SGIs, Ultrix, and DecUnix machines (as well as Linux) and while the earlier NTeX distribs were fairly difficult, the latest comes with precompiled binaries for many different platforms, and has a tcl/tk front end that is very easy to use. So NTeX isn't too bad. :) I fear this discussion is becoming rather off-topic although this seems as well to reflect that people are looking for alternatives to the LaTeX system usually supplied with Debian... The distinction has probably to be made in first place to the question if NTeX is as uptodate and complete as teTeX and if it is too a consequent implementation of the TDS (TeX Directory Structure) which has a similiar approach as the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard in regard of the special TeX/LaTeX needs. Regards, P.*8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X programs can't find 'libX11.so', 'libXaw.so', etc.
Help! After fixing my /etc/ld.so.conf to get the loader to look in usr/X11R6/lib (which fixed Metafont), I am still having problems with X programs being unable to find their libraries. For example, I got the binaries for xv from Sunsite, but when I run it I get: xv: can't load library '/usr/lib/libX11.so.3' Unknown error xv: can't load library '/lib/libX11.so.3' Unknown error xv: can't find library 'libX11.so.3' I tried making a symlink to /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.0 from /usr/lib/libX11.so.3, but that didn't do anything. The same problem occurs also with stuff compiled on my machine, not just with precompiled binaries--e.g. the xmine game gives an identical message, except it can't find libXpm.so.4. Any ideas? Why are all these programs looking in the same (wrong) places for their X libraries? TIA, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xbase-configure related problem
Hi folks / Salut les filles ! Just installed Debian Linux 1.1 (kernel 2.0) from Infomagic's CDs this weekend, and ran into a problem during xbase configuration. I've got a dual system with Linux/Windaube95 (french for Windog95). Windog says the graphics card is an ATI Graphics Pro Turbo PCI (mach64), but there's no such card in the xbase-configure database. So I just bypassed the card and video memory size selections with CR, hoping the probe would do the right guesses. When testing the config I get a server failure and strange probe values such as: (--) ... : ATI Winwonder SVGA (--) ... : 256K video ram (--) ... : Brooktree 476 or similar RAMDAC Besides, the card's supposed to contain 2Mb video ram, according to the advertized configuration at time of purchase... :( So, could any of you Debian gurus help me on this one ? -- Papy-EFB Peg: What are you thinking? Al : If I wanted you to know, I'd be talking instead of thinking. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any PPP-connection keeping utility ?
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Zenon Fortuna wrote: I would like to keep my PPP connection busy even during the time, when I don't use it. Otherwise my ISP will log-me-off after a couple of idle minutes. I had a script back when I ran Slackware which tidied up the ppp launching process. It would redial if I got dropped, email me at a remote site with my IP address, and launch the following (once): % ping -q 300 my.isp.name.server It's one ping every five minutes. Make sure you choose a site close to your dial-in point, as either my ISP or my university's ISP would lose their connection a lot, and I'd get dropped if I was only relying on telnets to remote sites. --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good buy or not?
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone on the list may have experience with Packard Bell machines, running Debian ? The reason for the question is, a local store is selling excess stock that didn't sell during the holiday season at a price that is very, very, tempting. Actually, the price is only a little more than the cost of a decent motherboard, and it is for a complete system, including monitor, 4X CD-ROM, etc. The processor is a 75Mhz Pentium. I don't know the whole story of the Pentium line, but would it be reasonable to assume that the cpu could be readily upgraded? Thats a detail that might depend entirely on the capability of the board in the machine, and I know little about PB, other than the adverse stories of the recent past. Are they still using refurbished stuff and selling it as new? Do their machines use standard memory components, so they could be easily upgraded with parts from other vendors, etc? They don't mention the vendor, but the machine includes an video accelerator type of card, and the machine is billed as a multimedia home PC. The monitor is one of those goofy looking things with speakers glued to its sides. It is a model 4240. Anyone have any comments on its insides, and whether it might be as good a buy as it appears to be? My current machine is an old 486 box, and I need space for an additional HD, etc. Running an AMD 486/133, so this machine would not really be much of an upgrade in itself in terms of performance, but if possible, I would quickly upgrade its cpu and memory. Would this be a decent platform to build on or not? My experience with Packard-Bell machines is that these folks made a decent car an an ok telephone, but their computer stinks worse than a landfill of diapers. These machines are almost completely NONE upgradable. They are typically incompatable with all other components (memory etc) and in order to get their low profile design they mount expansion boards horizontaly rather than virtically, typically giving only 2 or 3 expansion slots. Literally everything is on the mother board, so if the least thing breaks, you own a not so functional boat anchor. If you never need to upgrade or fix them, they are just fine for limited applications, but my advice would be, upgrade to a pentium mother board (PCI) and you will get two ide channels to hang drives on. Spend the rest of your money on memory and drives. You will be much happier with the results. Remember: You get what you pay for! Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good buy or not?
I tend to disagree with the following argument. My Packard Bell is a Pentium 100 MHz. I bought it with 8Megs memory and a 1 Gig HD. I now have 32 Megs memory (PNY) and two hard drives (2 Gig and a 1 Gig), also an IDE CD-ROM. I have had no problem upgrading. You do really have to pull the computer apart to get to some of the parts, but nothing to tough. I have been very satisfied with it. It had all good parts inside, nothing second rate. Seagate hard drive. I would recommend it if you get a good deal on it. I have had mine for over a year and I have had no problems, and the thing is on more than it is off. Tom Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if anyone on the list may have experience with Packard Bell machines, running Debian ? The reason for the question is, a local store is selling excess stock that didn't sell during the holiday season at a price that is very, very, tempting. Actually, the price is only a little more than the cost of a decent motherboard, and it is for a complete system, including monitor, 4X CD-ROM, etc. The processor is a 75Mhz Pentium. I don't know the whole story of the Pentium line, but would it be reasonable to assume that the cpu could be readily upgraded? Thats a detail that might depend entirely on the capability of the board in the machine, and I know little about PB, other than the adverse stories of the recent past. Are they still using refurbished stuff and selling it as new? Do their machines use standard memory components, so they could be easily upgraded with parts from other vendors, etc? They don't mention the vendor, but the machine includes an video accelerator type of card, and the machine is billed as a multimedia home PC. The monitor is one of those goofy looking things with speakers glued to its sides. It is a model 4240. Anyone have any comments on its insides, and whether it might be as good a buy as it appears to be? My current machine is an old 486 box, and I need space for an additional HD, etc. Running an AMD 486/133, so this machine would not really be much of an upgrade in itself in terms of performance, but if possible, I would quickly upgrade its cpu and memory. Would this be a decent platform to build on or not? My experience with Packard-Bell machines is that these folks made a decent car an an ok telephone, but their computer stinks worse than a landfill of diapers. These machines are almost completely NONE upgradable. They are typically incompatable with all other components (memory etc) and in order to get their low profile design they mount expansion boards horizontaly rather than virtically, typically giving only 2 or 3 expansion slots. Literally everything is on the mother board, so if the least thing breaks, you own a not so functional boat anchor. If you never need to upgrade or fix them, they are just fine for limited applications, but my advice would be, upgrade to a pentium mother board (PCI) and you will get two ide channels to hang drives on. Spend the rest of your money on memory and drives. You will be much happier with the results. Remember: You get what you pay for! Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Suggestion
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:24:58 -0500 (EST) From: Joseph L. Hartmann, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been reading this list for a few weeks now, and I wonder if someone could regularly post and maintain the . I'll call it debian FAQ, for lack of a better term. It would be... O.K.: http://ece.wpi.edu/~rulnick/GlinuX/debian-1.2-faq.html John -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do people on this list backup stuff?
I prefer to go the tape route myself. Currently, I use an 8mm SCSI tape to back two Debian boxes, a NeXTstation, and a couple of windows95 machines using ADSM (Adstar Distributed Storage Manager -- served from the NeXT). While the ADSM Mini-Howto goes into much better detail, you basically use the SCO binary for ADSM as a client on the Linux machines. While my NeXT is specifically used for backups, I do plan to experiment with the SCO server binaries sometime in the next month or so. And perhaps will update the Mini-Howto to make it fit. That is, if there is any great interest in using ADSM. Ryan __ Reply Separator _ Subject: How do people on this list backup stuff? Author: debian-user@lists.debian.org at Internet Date:1/4/97 5:09 PM I am curious to find out how people back stuff? Specifically I am interested in finding out whether it is necessary to use a tape system or is it also possible to use another hardrive. Afterall, it would appear a hardrive is cheaper than a *quality* tape system? Just curious too hear opinions on this matter. -Walter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 problems
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Kaj Wiik wrote: When trying to run g77 on 1.2 I get gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory Still f771 exists: locate f771 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/f771 Too bad that this did not get fixed in 1.2. The problem arises, because gcc got upgrade from 2.7.2 to 2.7.2.1 The g77 does depend on the gcc. But there is no new g77 for the 2.7.2.1 version of gcc. The work around is to get the old stuff from 1.1 (maybe you have it left) and make a link to ../2.7.2/f771 Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buggy mime-support package? :-(
Anyway, the main trouble seems to be that the Debian-1.2 /etc/mailcap has grown to a rather ridiculous size as compared to the version provided with Debian-1.1.xx: cut-here [root]/root v /etc/mailcap* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 320596 Dec 24 04:12 /etc/mailcap -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 502 Nov 30 13:41 /etc/mailcap.bak -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 841 Dec 3 17:59 /etc/mailcap.dpkg-dist cut-here I've seen one other case of this. It happened because the /etc/mailcap was not in the proper format. The latest mime-support package v2.09 (probably only in bo) checks for this problem but older ones didn't. I suggest you remove the /etc/mailcap file and reinstall the mime-support package. Well, trying to deinstall the mime-support for apparent reasons i just get *lots* of dependancy conflicts making it impossible to do without this thing. Here the relevant lines from the dselect dialog: cut-here pine depends on mime-support apache depends on mime-support xpdf depends on mime-support (= 2.01-1) metamail depends on mime-support (= 2.02-1) lynx recommends mime-support xanim depends on mime-support (= 2.08) cut-here None of these are technically supposed to depend on mime-support. They should only test for its availability before calling the install-mime program. This is documented in the install-mime man page. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- It's not the days in your life, but the life in your days that counts. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc (re:)
Hi,
Please pardon my novice experience! Does this mean that I
should use the readline library for termcap and/or ncurses
library calls from now?
joost witteveen wrote:
:
:Try
: gcc -o prog1 prog1.c -lreadline
:This at least links.
:
:
: prog2.c
: char tgoto(); int main() { tgoto(); return 0; }
: $ gcc prog1.c -ltermcap
: ld: cannot open -ltermcap: no such file or directory
:
:
:again,
: gcc -o prog2 prog2.c -lreadline
:works.
:
: both libs are in /lib:
: libncurses.so.3.0
: libtermcap.so.2 - libtermcap.so.2.0.8
: libtermcap.so.2.0.8
:
:
:I've recently learnt that, for -termcap to be found, one needs
:.so links:
: libtermcap.so - libtermcap.so.2.0.8
:and that one is missing.
:I'm not sure if this is a bug in the termcap package: the debian
:system tries to supply all packagres linked with readline, and
:as such the missing .so files may be intentional (I just don't know).
:
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Re: pls, send to the right address
On 5 Jan 1997, Guy Maor wrote: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why don't you just check the X-Mailing-List: header instead of To:? It's better than trying to dictate how everyone replies to the list. Probably because, like me, he doesn't want to see the personal copy if someone also sent it to the list. And he'd like to see the mail on his list mbox, not his personal mbox. I do this with gnus. I would point out that this problem stems from the way the list constructs the mail header. When I send mail to the list, the resent messages have my name and address in thr From: field and the debian list address in the Resent from: field. The problem that this creates for me is that any mail that bounces from other members of the list, bounces back to me, instead of the list. For this user's problem it means that when I do a reply it goes to the original sender and cc's the list. If these two fields were swapped, then bounced mail would properly reply to the list, where something can be done about it, instead of to me, who can't do a thing about it. It would also fix the above user's problems. I understand that it would make it somewhat harder to just reply to the poster of the problem, which is more often than not the desired process. It depends on which is more important. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xterm color
How in the world do I get colors to display in xterm? The release notes for 3.2 say that colour support is now included by default, but when I do ls --color all I get is mono with bold. If I do the same thing in an rxvt window, I get colors. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote: Okay, here is what I have learned... The Debian 1.2 Disk release version is broken. There is no ftp or dpkg-ftp program installed to your machine if you get all the Disks and do a fresh install. Basically you are screwed :( Dselect will not work because there is no ftp. Well, you are partially correct. There is no ftp client on the base disks. However, dpkg-ftp IS provided on the base system and dselect's ftp method should work. Netbase and ppp are also on the disk so you should be able to establish a ppp connection or work through an ethernet card to use dselect's ftp method. I am looking into the problem more, to see if at least ftp and telnet can be added. Nobody understands what the problem is because everybody upgraded from a previous version, so they already had all the files they needed. Truely this is a fresh installation problem only. Upgrades will have no problems with this issue. I post this in order to save others in the same boat all the frustration and headaches I have gone through in wanting to get Debian. Many thanks to everyone who wrote me personally and helped me figure all this out! :) I see that there is a Debian 1.2.1 on the site now, so I am going to give it a try. I assume that I griped enough, then :) I didn't see any of this until I had already uploaded the 1997-01-06 disk set. It DOES have dpkg-ftp on it, but not netstd (with ftp and telnet). Something should be resolved for this by 1.2.2. If not, where can I get 1.1? Apparently it worked from disks on a clean install. I can sell you a 1.1.13 gold CD if you are really interested. Also, is there another list I need to be on to get announcements about new releases / fixes, etc? I would not have known about 1.2.1 if I hadn't noticed it while looking for 1.1 disks... Debian-announce is where the general announcements go, such as releases. Debian-devel-changes carries notices of package upgrades/fixes. Sign up by sending a subscribe message to list-name[EMAIL PROTECTED] Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buggy mime-support package? :-( (re:)
Hi,
While we are on the subject of mime-support, I'd like to know
if there is some command that I can run at the command line to
decode a mime'd file?
Thanks!
Brian C. White wrote:
:
: Well, trying to deinstall the mime-support for apparent reasons i just get
: *lots* of dependancy conflicts making it impossible to do without this
: thing. Here the relevant lines from the dselect dialog:
: cut-here
: pine depends on mime-support
: apache depends on mime-support
: xpdf depends on mime-support (= 2.01-1)
: metamail depends on mime-support (= 2.02-1)
: lynx recommends mime-support
: xanim depends on mime-support (= 2.08)
: cut-here
:
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Gold v. Green Debian CDs
Does anyone know which CDs containing Debian distributions are gold versus green (CD-Rs). My CD-ROM drive does not like CD-Rs very well, and I want to make sure I get something I can read reliably. thanks for any responses!! Chris. === Chris R. Martin email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key upon request www: http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~crm7479 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian source tree and incremental diffs question..
Hiya, i thought I saw someone mention that upgrades to existing packages were available via diffs to the source. Thus allowing the download of just the diff rather than the entire .orig source ( assuming of course you have the source to the original package online). Now I checked out the FAQ and a few other places and see no mention of this. If this feature is available can someone tell me where I can read about it, if it isn't is something like this (or perhaps even something similar to FreeBSD's CVS upgrade system) likely to become available? Richard Jones -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems installing on a Compaq Dual PPro
Hi One of my friends just received a complete clean Compaq Dual Pentium Pro and I convinced him to give Linux a try. I downloaded the required disks and told him on the phone that I've tried the installation process before so in a matter of an hour or so he would be flying... We ran into problems (didn't look at the Hardware-HOWTO before hand - well he didn't know it existed) and now I just want to know whether we have a fair chance of success.. and how to proceed if we have..(not using the enclosed NT-cd). The System: Compaq Professional Workstation 5000 2x Pentium Pro at 200 MHz ok ISA and PCI ok Matrix Milliniumok ATAPI Compaq CD ok Symbios Wide-Ultra SCSI controller (53c875 chipset) ? Compaq 2.1 GB SCSI disk (0) IBM 2.16 GB SCSI disk (1) Compaq Qvision 210 monitor ? NetFlex-3 10/100 Network interface controller ? The ok's refere to things I think will work without problems and the ? reflects the more doubtful parts of the system (my judgement). When we boot from the resq1440.bin disk we come to the part where the disks is to be partitioned a message explaining that the disks can't be seen comes up (chaeck cables or give arguments at the boot prompt). I looked at some on the info in Debian FAQ and the HOWTO's with the following result: 1) Compaq machines seems to be special concerning bios and PCI (from Linux Compaq Deskpro XL HOWTO). Can we use the methods outlined in there for this specific machine as well. 2) The SymbiosWide-Ultra SCSI is not in the on the supported list of controllers. 3) The network we haven't even thought to think about.. Any help would be highly appreciated.. Karsten Bolding PS: When we were working on the problem a guy came in an suggested to install Solaris instead - we don't want this to happen - do we -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11R6 and xbaseR6 dependencies?
Hello, all! Just got the Infomagic December pack and started playing with Debian... I've been using Slackware on a completely stand-alone machine for a couple of years but decided to give Debian a try - looking good so far... But I've got a problem with some dependancies, mainly packages claiming that they depend on X11R6 and/or xbaseR6... for instance netscape and motifnls - I have got XFree86 set up and functioning so what did I fail to do during the install? I looked at the 1.2-miniFAQ but this problem isn't covered there... I also have the same problem as an other poster with X stuff looking for libs in /usr/lib, creating links to the relevant libs in the X directories makes no difference... TIA, Michael Tempsch -- |Linux: Turn on...Tune in...Fork out...| |Michael Tempsch, member of Ballistic Wizards, TIP#088, TDGP#20| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Will this be a problem if I downloaded all the packages and the install directly to my hard drive? I install from a DOS partition. I should then get the new FTP and telnet packages, correct? I can use dselect to choose these off of my hard drive DOS partition. I just recently put debian on my system, but I don't have any packages installed yet. I have been toying with RedHat, but I can't get the boot disk to be created, but Debian worked great in that respect. So I am going to use Debian. To reiterate, my question is, will I have telnet and ftp capability when I install all of the packages from my hard drive. Tom Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Kendrick Myatt wrote: Okay, here is what I have learned... The Debian 1.2 Disk release version is broken. There is no ftp or dpkg-ftp program installed to your machine if you get all the Disks and do a fresh install. Basically you are screwed :( Dselect will not work because there is no ftp. Well, you are partially correct. There is no ftp client on the base disks. However, dpkg-ftp IS provided on the base system and dselect's ftp method should work. Netbase and ppp are also on the disk so you should be able to establish a ppp connection or work through an ethernet card to use dselect's ftp method. I am looking into the problem more, to see if at least ftp and telnet can be added. Nobody understands what the problem is because everybody upgraded from a previous version, so they already had all the files they needed. Truely this is a fresh installation problem only. Upgrades will have no problems with this issue. I post this in order to save others in the same boat all the frustration and headaches I have gone through in wanting to get Debian. Many thanks to everyone who wrote me personally and helped me figure all this out! :) I see that there is a Debian 1.2.1 on the site now, so I am going to give it a try. I assume that I griped enough, then :) I didn't see any of this until I had already uploaded the 1997-01-06 disk set. It DOES have dpkg-ftp on it, but not netstd (with ftp and telnet). Something should be resolved for this by 1.2.2. If not, where can I get 1.1? Apparently it worked from disks on a clean install. I can sell you a 1.1.13 gold CD if you are really interested. Also, is there another list I need to be on to get announcements about new releases / fixes, etc? I would not have known about 1.2.1 if I hadn't noticed it while looking for 1.1 disks... Debian-announce is where the general announcements go, such as releases. Debian-devel-changes carries notices of package upgrades/fixes. Sign up by sending a subscribe message to list-name[EMAIL PROTECTED] Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
crt0.o not there
I am not sure if this is a bug, but I was trying to compile MULE (multi-lingual emacs) 2.3 on my Debian 1.2 system and it needed crt0.o but couldn't find it. There was a crt1.o though. -- terrence brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephones: home: 818-844-6401 360 S. Euclid Ave #124, Pasadena, CA 91101 /o)\fax: 213-740-5687 http://rana.usc.edu:8376/~brannon \(o/ that's right, 56*8*7 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Infomagic CD - Review of fresh install
Installation notes - debian 1.2 stable, as shipped on the January InfoMagic Developer's Resource Here are some observations and problems I found with attempting to install Debian 1.2 from the latest Infomagic CD. I realise that some of the problems listed here have been addressed already, but I haven't seen anyone else post about problems with the CD specifically, so I thought I would. Warning, this is quite long. Also, please don't take the conclusions at the end as an invitation to a flame war. I wish I had the time and the disk space to have helped test the release earlier before it shipped, but I didn't. First, someone needs to get Infomagic to add the install doc to the booklet they ship with the CD. There are quick start instructions for Slackware and Redhat but Debian is not even mentioned. The first thing that struck me (and I know this is a common complaint) was the number of disks it took. It's up one from the last time I installed Debian over a year ago. ;( Being a very cautious person when it comes to upgrades, though I had a previously installed debian 1.?? system, (what ever the pre-release ELF version was that was around last Xmas), I decided to do the new debian install on a fresh disk. I wanted to see what a from scratch install was like anyway, because I really like Debian's layout and had been suggesting it to people over Redhat, and a few had complained that it was too difficult to install. I prefer Debian because I like the choices made in how the system is laid out, the arrangement of configuration files, and the ease of upgrading (sometimes, more on this later) Whenever I have installed a debian package, I've always been pleased with the choices the maintainer made of where to put things, as they usually fit my interpretation of the FSSND. First, I think there could be a smaller install set designed. I don't have a CD drive on the computer I installed on, it's on my other computer and I export it over NFS. I would think that for situations like this, or even an ftp install, you could pack enough on the boot floppy and one other floppy which just stayed in the floppy drive to get up and running. If I get time to play with the tools for making debian boot kit's I may try to do this. (Is there a way to load more than one floppy's worth of data into a ram disk without using multiple ram disks like Redhat used to?) On to the install, once the floppies were prepared. The initial floppy install went well, the computer rebooted and then it was into dselect. Much has been written on dselect, and I'm afraid I find a lot of it true. It is confusing, non-intuitive, cluttered, and overly verbose. I did not want to just select install everything, and with the way the presentation was laid out, I found it frustrating to find the packages I did want and ended up basically just installing the recommended preselected stuff. (Note here: I think rather than one recommended install set, a few would be a good idea. A workstation default, which fits what dselect currently offers, a server default, which would leave out TeX and other packages like that and a few sub-groups under these might be a better option) This went relatively smoothly, but again, dselect seems very slow as it prints endless messages about how it is skipping unselected packages. This seems to be the major problem I have with dselect, it bombards you with information constantly, making it difficult to focus on which is important and which can be ignored. However, a more serious problem arose as it worked it's way through the packages I selected. On the Infomagic CD, there are some duplicate packages, with different version numbers and dselect would install the newest then replace it with the older version. The packages I saw this problem with included man, ppp, tcsh and xbase. After the packages were installed, there were also some configuration problems. TeX, part of the default install, would not configure correctly because it couldn't find libXext. This was actually installed but it appears that the post install routine didn't do an ldconfig, and I don't think it put the path to the X11R6/lib directory in /etc/ld.conf. X in general was a bit of a problem, because when you configure it, after setting up the X server, the install program tells you that Debian puts that XF86config file in /etc/X11, and asks if you'd like to put it there. Then, when it tries to test the server, it fails because it doesn't install a symlink somewhere where the server can find the file. (/usr/X11R6/lib/X11?) And, if when the script asks you if the server worked, you answer no, it exits and it is then impossible to convince any package that X is installed. Not only that, there doesn't appear to be any way to rerun the configuration to set this right. This made trying to install any other X related packages a pain, because they all claimed that the required X11R6 needed was missing. Another problem was GCC. I selected both the regular gcc and
Re: X11R6 package in Debian 1.2 bugs (?)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but the original poster had a valid problem report which RTFM really isn't going to solve for him! It's not so much that as that tcsh should be added correctly to /etc/shells as part of the post-install process. That, at least IMHO, is a valid bug report. -- John Henders - System Administrator - Mindlink!/Wimsey -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just a Proposition....:-)))
Hi to all...:-))) Well, I'm just a newbie but I'd like a new installation routine for debian. I have the following proposition for future installation routines. First dselect is not very user friendly...and for a newbie it's say difficult to use...:-)) It gives the possibility to install MANY packages. Of course sometimes I do not know whether I'll ever need them. Later dpkg always needs magical spells to make it work. What U think about something like this: A text based installation of the BASE system (whatever it is) plus X. Later we continue the installation under X by just using something like xdselect or xdpkg (without cryptic spells, just checkboxes). Of course there should be an option for all these who love the text version of the installation...:-)) I think installing and upgrading under X by just using the mouse pointer should be possible...and BTW other so called OS can do it too...more or less...:-))) Maybe someone is currently working on an installation routine like this and I think it would make debian more user friendly and debian would gain more users Greetings to all Jacek
Re: Any PPP-connection keeping utility ?
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote: I put this in my /etc/ppp/ip-up script: ping -i 120 $5 /dev/null 21 ^ | what is it? not found in man page The $5 represents the ip address on the isp side. From the /etc/ppp/ip-up comments: #Arg Name Example #$1 Interface name ppp0 #$2 The ttyttyS1 #$3 The link speed 38400 #$4 Local IP number12.34.56.78 #$5 Peer IP number12.34.56.99 Ioannis Tambouras [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP 768/429EE365, West Palm Beach, Florida -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cron's insistence on dselect mail stuff
Just a question - Will cron ever relent without being forced? IMHO, cron really doesn't require, recommend or suggest, it demands! I run cron for cleanup and other local jobs. Currently, I don't have *any* mail related programs installed. I'm getting tired of having to override dselect *every* time I want to install/update something else. Anyone else with this problem? Do I have to install as an alternative, and then remove the alternative later when I install mail? Thanks for listening to the rant. Regards, JohnT !-- Life is non-orthogonal and big endian. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pls, send to the right address
Please, everybody: could you address your e-mails to the list, instead of sending them personally to somebody and cc them to the list? Many people (like me) set up filters to separate mailing lists from personal e-mail, and check the To: field in the message header. I would like to point out that I actually _like_ to have a copy in my own mbox when people reply to my email. I only read the maillinglists once a day/(sometimes even longer periods), but I like it when I can reply immediatly when somebody gave me some information on a question/ remark I put on the mailinglist. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote: Will this be a problem if I downloaded all the packages and the install directly to my hard drive? I install from a DOS partition. I should then get the new FTP and telnet packages, correct? I can use dselect to choose these off of my hard drive DOS partition. I just recently put debian on my system, but I don't have any packages installed yet. I have been toying with RedHat, but I can't get the boot disk to be created, but Debian worked great in that respect. So I am going to use Debian. To reiterate, my question is, will I have telnet and ftp capability when I install all of the packages from my hard drive. Sounds like a little general information would be useful here: When you install a new Debian system (rather than upgrade an old one) you typically start with a boot/root disk and several base disks (currently 4). When you are done with this base installation, you will have a boot floppy that can boot your new system, and a root file system that contains the bare minimum of utility to continue with the larger installation. At this point your options are varied. Dselect is the most comprehensive installation tool currently available. Because of it's comprehensive nature, new users can find it very daunting, but if you are careful, and read all the screens fully, take things slow, and be willing to quit and start over whenever you get tangled or confused, dselect can deliver a complete Debian installation in a reliable, repeatable fashion. I typically don't install the whole thing so I tend to use dpkg more often than dselect. Dpkg is the work horse for dselect. It is the package that actually does the installation for the collection that dselect manages. So, if you only need to add/upgrade a few packages at a time, dpkg is the best choice for the job. This brings us to: What about all the other packages, where are they, how do I get them? You have already (apparently) downloaded the archive to your msdos partition. To properly get unmangled file names you should have gotten them from debian/rex/msdos-i386, rather than the binary-i386 path. If you have also gotten a valid Packages file with that path, you are all set for installing the rest of Debian from your dos partition. You should be able to mount your dos partition with a command like: mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt, or you can let dselect do so when you choose the hard disk method from the installation choices. You will notice, if you look at the contents of debian/rex/msdos-i386 (or binary-i386 for that matter), that there are a number of subdirectories to be found. The subdirectory base, contains all the packages (well, almost) that you will find on a set of base disks. If you are upgrading from a previous Debian system, it is advisable to upgrade from this directory first. The other directories (also known as sections) are pretty much organized around functional class, so you will find tools like cron in admin, as it is viewed as an administrative tool. What you take from this collection of packages is entirely up to you, and is based on your needs and interests. If you are not sure where a particular program might reside (which package has xxx?) you can grep the Contents file. This is a listing of the contents of all the packages in the distribution (assuming it is up to date). You can then find out more about that package from the Packages file (like what section it is in, what other packages it depends on, even a description of the packages intended use) As to the question of where to get it: If you did the above archival correctly on your dos partition, you already have it all! (with the exception of source) If you do a complete installation of those packages you will certainly have ftp, telnet, and a host of other things as well (both of those are found in the netstd package, in section net), and, although your will certainly find use for your new ftp you will not need it to install the full Debian system. In general you should be able to obtain a complete install with the ftp method in dselect. The primary source for the distribution is ftp.debian.org, and if that site is snowed under, it will give you a list of the known mirrors that you can use as alternatives. Once you have a reasonable system going, you can use mirror to maintain your own personal archive and keep it up-to-date with current development. This does, of course, require that you have sufficient disk space. You can also purchase gold CDs from either myself or I-Connect, or the several other producers listed at www.debian.org. Other useful info found on this site are the bug reports, the faqs, and, under ideal circumstances, actual ftp access to the archive. I am sure I have told you more than you wished/needed to know, so I hope there is something helpful in all this drool ;-) Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone:
NO SUBJECT
Hi, While installing debian I am having problems with the mouse. I tried 2 mi ce: a PS2 mouse and a Logitech 3-buttons mouse. for example, using the PS2 mouse: When building the configuration file for the kernel: cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.6 make menuconfig I select character devices, then I tried to select not serial mouse Then I did: make dep; make clean make modules make modules-install depmod -a Then I am not sure what to do next. I tried modprob psaux But it returns: psaux module not found. When I try the other mouse, what should I select for character device etc? In both cases, when I tried to bring up the X server, the best I get is a frozen screen where the X for the mouse does not move.. Is there a step-by-step help file somewhere? Thanks, Frederique giraud. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install problems - InfoMagic LDR
Brian == Brian Sheaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian My interest is using Linux as a mail gateway for a Brian Win95/Win3.11 LAN. The setup would be like this. Brian 1. The Linux PC would dial into local ISP. Get each users Brian mail from the local ISP. e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. I presume the mail gateway software Brian can read a userlist file ?? Brian 2. Each PC user would then check the Linux mail server by Brian using a Windows based mail package (e.g. Eudora) or telnet Brian to the Linux PC and use Unix Mail command from a login Brian shell. Brian Is it possible. Certainly. Brian What packages would you recommend for 1. mail gateway Brian software (e.g. fetchmail,sendmail etc) 2. to make the dial Brian up connection (ISP would allocate IP on login) For 2., the latest ppp package should be just what you need. It contains the ppp daemon (pppd) and some useful scripts for connecting and disconnecting (pon, poff, plog). For 1., I personally would not recommend fetchmail. On my system at least, it seems to have trouble communicating properly with the POP3 server at my ISP. I would recommend 'popclient', which used to be in the 'netstd' package. As of 1.2, however, I believe you have to look for it elsewhere. Also, if you want to use it, you can't have fetchmail installed, because the fetchmail package contains a 'popclient' which is actually a symbolic link to 'fetchmail'. As to whether popclient (and fetchmail, for that matter) can read a user list, automating them to retrieve mail for any number of users with a shell script run by 'cron' is trivial. Good luck, sounds like you're off to a good start. The next step is to convince your Winblows users that they'd be better off running Linux as well... -- Nathan L. Cutler Linux Enthusiast http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~nlc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xterm color (re:)
Hi,
You must set the color resource in either the .Xdefaults or
XTerm:
*color0:what-ever-color#1
*color1:what-ever-color#1
...
*color15: what-ever-color#16
*colorMode: on
Check out the 'man xterm' for the last resource name.
Michael Harnois wrote:
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Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
Thank you for the info. This is indeed what I was looking for. I do have another small question. I downloaded the i386 version to a windows 95 VFAT partition. Do I need to worry about name mangling from within dselect? Do I have to download the msdos-i386 version? I certainly hope not. Tom Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote: Will this be a problem if I downloaded all the packages and the install directly to my hard drive? I install from a DOS partition. I should then get the new FTP and telnet packages, correct? I can use dselect to choose these off of my hard drive DOS partition. I just recently put debian on my system, but I don't have any packages installed yet. I have been toying with RedHat, but I can't get the boot disk to be created, but Debian worked great in that respect. So I am going to use Debian. To reiterate, my question is, will I have telnet and ftp capability when I install all of the packages from my hard drive. Sounds like a little general information would be useful here: When you install a new Debian system (rather than upgrade an old one) you typically start with a boot/root disk and several base disks (currently 4). When you are done with this base installation, you will have a boot floppy that can boot your new system, and a root file system that contains the bare minimum of utility to continue with the larger installation. At this point your options are varied. Dselect is the most comprehensive installation tool currently available. Because of it's comprehensive nature, new users can find it very daunting, but if you are careful, and read all the screens fully, take things slow, and be willing to quit and start over whenever you get tangled or confused, dselect can deliver a complete Debian installation in a reliable, repeatable fashion. I typically don't install the whole thing so I tend to use dpkg more often than dselect. Dpkg is the work horse for dselect. It is the package that actually does the installation for the collection that dselect manages. So, if you only need to add/upgrade a few packages at a time, dpkg is the best choice for the job. This brings us to: What about all the other packages, where are they, how do I get them? You have already (apparently) downloaded the archive to your msdos partition. To properly get unmangled file names you should have gotten them from debian/rex/msdos-i386, rather than the binary-i386 path. If you have also gotten a valid Packages file with that path, you are all set for installing the rest of Debian from your dos partition. You should be able to mount your dos partition with a command like: mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt, or you can let dselect do so when you choose the hard disk method from the installation choices. You will notice, if you look at the contents of debian/rex/msdos-i386 (or binary-i386 for that matter), that there are a number of subdirectories to be found. The subdirectory base, contains all the packages (well, almost) that you will find on a set of base disks. If you are upgrading from a previous Debian system, it is advisable to upgrade from this directory first. The other directories (also known as sections) are pretty much organized around functional class, so you will find tools like cron in admin, as it is viewed as an administrative tool. What you take from this collection of packages is entirely up to you, and is based on your needs and interests. If you are not sure where a particular program might reside (which package has xxx?) you can grep the Contents file. This is a listing of the contents of all the packages in the distribution (assuming it is up to date). You can then find out more about that package from the Packages file (like what section it is in, what other packages it depends on, even a description of the packages intended use) As to the question of where to get it: If you did the above archival correctly on your dos partition, you already have it all! (with the exception of source) If you do a complete installation of those packages you will certainly have ftp, telnet, and a host of other things as well (both of those are found in the netstd package, in section net), and, although your will certainly find use for your new ftp you will not need it to install the full Debian system. In general you should be able to obtain a complete install with the ftp method in dselect. The primary source for the distribution is ftp.debian.org, and if that site is snowed under, it will give you a list of the known mirrors that you can use as alternatives. Once you have a reasonable system going, you can use mirror to maintain your own personal archive and keep it up-to-date with current development. This does, of course, require that you have sufficient disk space. You can also purchase gold CDs from either myself or
Re: Gold v. Green Debian CDs
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Chris R. Martin wrote: Does anyone know which CDs containing Debian distributions are gold versus green (CD-Rs). My CD-ROM drive does not like CD-Rs very well, and I want to make sure I get something I can read reliably. Well, the blanks I have in stock at the moment are gold, but I have used the green before, with no apparent difficulties or differences. Does your drive do better with the gold than the green, or is it just difficult with all CD-Rs? I have, what I consider to be a fairly expensive Philips CD-R and have had no problems that traced back to the drive as the culprit. I have had my fair share of corrupted files and the odd CD damaged in shipping, but nothing drive specific. What kind of CD-ROM drive do you have, and how is it interfaced? The only failure I ever had with a burn session was caused by the ide controler going through a reset cycle during the burn. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote: reiterate, my question is, will I have telnet and ftp capability when I install all of the packages from my hard drive. Debian does offer a lot of choices how to install your system. After installing the netstd-package from your harddrive you will have telnet/ftp capabilities. I do expect that this package is part of your collection on the DOS drive. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sound card opti 930 mad16
Hello and happy new year I ve a problem with my mad16 opti930 Shuttle sound card. When I configure the kernel for my sound card and when I test it, I ve a crazy noise feed-back. I think, it s the low level, but I really don t know how to solve this problem. If somebody could help me Thank you Patrice Le Lourec -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gold v. Green Debian CDs
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Baetzler wrote: versus green (CD-Rs). My CD-ROM drive does not like CD-Rs very well, and I want to make sure I get something I can read reliably. Well, gold CDs are CD-Rs, too. You either meant silver, or that your CDROM-drive doesn´t like the green ones. I've never seen a gold CD-r but I know that my CD-ROM does not like green ones. Perhaps a gold one would work better... *shrug* Thanks for the clarification. Chris. === Chris R. Martin email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key upon request www: http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~crm7479 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gold v. Green Debian CDs
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: Does anyone know which CDs containing Debian distributions are gold versus green (CD-Rs). My CD-ROM drive does not like CD-Rs very well, and I want to make sure I get something I can read reliably. Well, the blanks I have in stock at the moment are gold, but I have used the green before, with no apparent difficulties or differences. I have two green CD-Rs which are completely unreadable by my cd-rom. Does your drive do better with the gold than the green, or is it just difficult with all CD-Rs? I've never used a gold CD-R so I don't know. I have, what I consider to be a fairly expensive Philips CD-R and have had no problems that traced back to the drive as the culprit. I have had my fair share of corrupted files and the odd CD damaged in shipping, but nothing drive specific. What kind of CD-ROM drive do you have, and how is it interfaced? It's a Toshiba 8X IDE CD-ROM. It works perfectly with all my CDs except the two green CD-Rs I have. Those two CD-Rs worked perfectly with my old 4X IDE. Any suggestions comments? Thanks, Chris. === Chris R. Martin email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key upon request www: http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~crm7479 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gold v. Green Debian CDs
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Nick Busigin wrote: On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Chris R. Martin wrote: Does anyone know which CDs containing Debian distributions are gold versus green (CD-Rs). My CD-ROM drive does not like CD-Rs very well, and I want to make sure I get something I can read reliably. Hi Chris, I've never heard of the term green CD-R. Would you please explain what this is to me? Thanks in advance, Nick Some CDRs (on the recorded side) are green in color. Aparently (as I have learned today!!) some are also gold. My CD-ROM drive does not read the two green CD-Rs I have (my old drive read them without trouble). I don't know if it will read gold ones or not. Thanks, Chris. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
List of installation problems for 1.2
This is my weekly publication of the list of known problems with the 1.2 release of Debian. Please note that 1.2.1 is being released and should clear up some of these problems. I would appreciate reports of old problems fixed, as well as any new problems that are discovered with the installation of this new set of packages. Number 1 is still the most reported problem with new installations, so, if your system can't find xlib6 1. Already reported as a bug: Can't find xlib6 so file. Add /usr/X11R6/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig. 2. Dselect fails to satisfy pre-depends for perl (libdl1) Installing ldso by hand solves the problem. 3. Bug#5659: dpkg-gencontrol fails in chown new files listfile. Possible patch. Only a problem for package builders. 4. New sendmail fails to use old .cf file One report indicates re-installation fixes the problem. 5. Cron dies. (actually never starts) Run update-rc.d cron defaults 6. Gcc depends on cpp, but cpp conflicts with gcc. Retag gcc and re-run deselect. 7. Modconf messes up screen display on some lines. Possible dialog problem? 8. /bin/perl disapears and reappears during installation. Replace link by hand: ln -s /usr/bin/perl /bin/perl Or, install perl by hand: dpkg -i perl_xxx.deb. 9. Bug#5479 dpkg fails to preserve set id bits when copying files. No fix reported (possible patch) 10. gpm preinstall can't remove old gpm Remove by hand using dpkg --purge. 11. xbase can't remove xdm and xfs Remove by hand using dpkg --purge. 12. libg++ and libg++-dev conflict. Re-running the installation fixes it. 13. dependent packages bomb because libc5 is not installed first Upgrade base first. 14. no /dev/sr0 from MAKEDEV New version fixes this. 15. Gimp fails because there is no .gimprc file Create an empty .gimprc 16. Base-files should Provide: base Was: Smartlist and possibly other programs as well, depend on base. Fixed in the next version. 17. Adduser depends on perl-suid, not in base. Install by hand using --force-depends 18. Mc fails to declare it's dependence on libgpm. Should declare dpendence on libgpm. Install the libgpm package. Thanks for your help, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any PPP-connection keeping utility ?
Lawrence Chim wrote: I put this in my /etc/ppp/ip-up script: ping -i 120 $5 /dev/null 21 ^ | what is it? not found in man page Sorry, you probably looked at the wrong man page. From man pppd: /etc/ppp/ip-up A program or script which is executed when the link is available for sending and receiving IP packets (that is, IPCP has come up). It is executed with the parameters interface-name tty-device speed local-IP-address remote-IP-address and with its standard input, output and error streams redirected to /dev/null. This program or script is executed with the same real and effective user-ID as pppd, that is, at least the effective user-ID and possibly the real user-ID will be root. This is so that it can be used to manipulate routes, run privileged daemons (e.g. sendmail), etc. Be careful that the con tents of the /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down scripts do not compromise your system's security. /etc/ppp/ip-down A program or script which is executed when the link is no longer available for sending and receiving IP packets. This script can be used for undoing the effects of the /etc/ppp/ip-up script. It is invoked with the same parameters as the ip-up script, and the same security considerations apply, since it is executed with the same effective and real user-IDs as pppd. -- ...RickM... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buggy mime-support package? :-(
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Brian C. White wrote: None of these are technically supposed to depend on mime-support. They should only test for its availability before calling the install-mime program. This is documented in the install-mime man page. Well, I can only speak to the needs of the pine package. /etc/mailcap is provided by mime-support and needed by pine. This is the reason for it's dependence on mime-support. Install-mime is not needed or used by the pine installation scripts, so is not the issue here. I can only assume that the other packages mentioned have similar needs and therefore, rightly, depend on mime-support. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just a Proposition....:-)))
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A text based installation of the BASE system (whatever it is) plus X. Later we continue the installation under X by just using something like xdselect or xdpkg (without cryptic spells, just checkboxes). Of course there should be an option for all these who love the text version of the installation...:-)) I think installing and upgrading under X by just using the mouse pointer should be possible...and BTW other so called OS can do it too...more or less...:-))) Maybe someone is currently working on an installation routine like this and I think it would make debian more user friendly and debian would gain more users The first time I tried to install X in was on a Diamond Viper before that particular card was supported. Later I encountered various revisions of the mach64, each time having to wait for one more beta of the server. Plus, I've encountered some very interesting mouse-related problems. So maybe this has warped my attitude. But personally, I don't want to even *think* about installing X on a system until I've already installed everything else. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gold v. Green Debian CDs
The iConnect CD-ROM for Debian 1.2 mastered on 14 Dec 96 (one disk) is gold. Best Regards, Joe Hartmann Tel: (603) 863 6073 K2AJV -issued email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1951 home-page: http://www.sugar-river.net/~joeh - First Student at the: Linux Academy in the Sunshine Town of Newport, NH Thanks to RMS, Linus, and other contributors of free software! - I grant this to the public domain - On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Chris R. Martin wrote: Does anyone know which CDs containing Debian distributions are gold versus green (CD-Rs). My CD-ROM drive does not like CD-Rs very well, and I want to make sure I get something I can read reliably. thanks for any responses!! Chris. === Chris R. Martin email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key upon request www: http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~crm7479 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buggy mime-support package? :-( (re:)
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Timothy Phan wrote: Hi, While we are on the subject of mime-support, I'd like to know if there is some command that I can run at the command line to decode a mime'd file? The program is called munpack and will be found in the mpack package in the mail section. I use it all the time...with much success. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian source tree and incremental diffs question..
On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Richard Jones wrote: Hiya, i thought I saw someone mention that upgrades to existing packages were available via diffs to the source. Thus allowing the download of just the diff rather than the entire .orig source ( assuming of course you have the source to the original package online). Now I checked out the FAQ and a few other places and see no mention of this. If this feature is available can someone tell me where I can read about it, if it isn't is something like this (or perhaps even something similar to FreeBSD's CVS upgrade system) likely to become available? First, let me make clear that we are not talking about upgrading binary packages here. This is strictly a source packaging issue. That said, you are referring to the new source package format, which has many nice features, most notably the one you referred to. First, not all packages have been converted to the new source format, so you will see some packages in the old format. (I am going to assume that everyone knows how the old format worked) The new format consists of a source tree in package_xxx.orig.tar.gz that unpacks into a source tree as nearly identical to that provided by the upstream provider as is possible; a diff.gz file containing the differences between this source and the debianized version of the tree; and a Debian Source Control file .dsc that will tell the packaging tools how to unpack the source file. If you have installed the dpkg and dpkg-dev packages, more recent that 1.4.0 you will be able to unpack the source using these files with the following command: dpkg-source -x package_.dsc in the directory containing the orig.tar.gz, diff, and dsc files. This will generate a source tree you can build with: dpkg-buildpackage Hope this helps, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11R6 and xbaseR6 dependencies?
: : :On 06-Jan-97 Michael Tempsch wrote: :But I've got a problem with some dependancies, mainly packages claiming :that they depend on X11R6 and/or xbaseR6... [snip] :I also have the same problem as an other poster with X stuff looking for :libs in /usr/lib, creating links to the relevant libs in the X :directories makes no difference... :I added these entries in the file /etc/ld.so.conf to overcome the problem : :/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d :/usr/X11R6/lib :Now the linker should find the libs for X11. The Xaw3d was already there and I added /usr/X11R6/lib myself and ran ldconfig... no joy :-( /Michael -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buggy mime-support package? :-(
None of these are technically supposed to depend on mime-support. They should only test for its availability before calling the install-mime program. This is documented in the install-mime man page. Well, I can only speak to the needs of the pine package. /etc/mailcap is provided by mime-support and needed by pine. This is the reason for it's dependence on mime-support. Install-mime is not needed or used by the pine installation scripts, so is not the issue here. I can only assume that the other packages mentioned have similar needs and therefore, rightly, depend on mime-support. Yes, of course. I wasn't thinking about programs using it. sheepish grin Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Want to get it together? We can help! http://www.verisim.com/coordinator/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11R6.1 - X11R6??
Hi All, I just tried compiling a program that needed /usr/X11R6.1/*. From all the things I have read, XFree86 version 3.2 is based on X11R6.1. So I was wondering if it was okay to symlink X11R6.1 to X11R6.1? Is there reason as to why this is not a default? If you are wondering I'm running Debian 1.2. Thanks for any information, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help needed for simple installation
Hello all
I try to put the Debian distribution on a 486DX33 computer with 4 MB of
RAM.
I have downloaded the latest release and put the software on 6 disks.
I have also read the instructions in the install.html and checked the BIOS.
When I put a DOS diskette in drive A and I do FDISK, the harddisk is
recognized and I am able to make and remove partitions.
However, when I put the first diskette (resue) in the disk and boot the
system all goes well until the following messages appear:
Patitition check:
hda:hda: status error: status=0x01 {Error}
hda: status error: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError}
hda: drive not ready for command
hda: status error: status=0x01 {Error}
hda: status error: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError}
hda: drive not ready for command
hda: status error: status=0x01 {Error}
hda: status error: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError}
hda: drive not ready for command
hda: status error: status=0x01 {Error}
hda: status error: error=0x04 {DriveStatusError}
hda: drive not ready for command
ide0: reset: success
hda1 hda2 hda5
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Couldn't get a free page.
out of memoryVFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem).
init: cache '/etc/ld.so.cache' is corrupt
What is wrong? And what can I do about it?
TIA
Leander
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