Re: Best Debian CD?
On 15 Jan 1997, Steve Dunham wrote: The guy at LSL says that he will make a Debian-only CD (with the whole thing on it) if we can come up with a single floppy installation system (he will include the single floppy too). (He also said something about helping to support the project too.) Hmmmseems to me that Windows NT is a three floppy system. Although three is certainly less than six, three is significantly more than one. My advice to those looking to install Debian via floppy: Use brand new floppies. Format then under DOS. If you get any bad sectors, you got a bad disk. --Pete ___ Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: jdk-common and jdk-static, which one goes first???
I had this problem and some nice folks on the list told me to install them simultaneously: Try installing them both at the same time: # dpkg -i jdk-common.deb jdk-static.deb Paul Serice On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed debian-1.2. The X windows and Netscape work well. Thanks for people who made these packages. When i try jdk-common and jdk-static, there is a dependency problem. jdk-common said it depends on jdk-static and jdk-static said it depends on jdk-common. As the result, both packages are left unconfigured. Could someone over there help me get this problem solved? Thanks in advance -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Cogent 960C NIC problems.
I'll conclude that there's a problem when running it as a module so I compiled it in and it does work correctly then. On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote: Debian 1.2 won't detect my NIC. I've got a customized kernel with networking support but it doesn't detect the card. The kernel has the PCI Tulip driver configured as a module. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
dkpg not allowing installation of xlib6
How do I solve the following problem? -- dpkg -i debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb dpkg: considering removing xlib in favour of xlib6 ... Package xlib is on hold, not touching it. Use --force-hold to override. dpkg: regarding debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb containing xlib6: xlib6 conflicts with elf-x11r6lib xlib provides elf-x11r6lib and is installed. dpkg: error processing debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing xlib6 Errors were encountered while processing: debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb -- Is it safe to use dpkg -i --force-hold in this case? Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel. Nr. 0331-46-1310 -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Log of 1.2.2 install available
I recently did a clean install of Debian 1.2.2 and there were a couple of gotcha's which I thought were below the normal standard of a Debian release (meaning I had to ask for help :). I've made the complete log (starting at the first dselect) available as http://svr-www.eng.cam.ac.uk/~ajr/debian-1.2.2-install.gz (658305 bytes), you can cat to a console login to replay it although it is too fast (I intend to generate a simple script to play it slowly). If I'm not beaten by another release I'll summarise. Tony Robinson -- http://www.softsound.demon.co.uk/ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax +44-1223-562588 -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Just how much faster is a p133 versus a p90
I just upgraded to a p133 from a p90. Clearly it is faster, but does anyone know the official stats on the performance benefits. -Walter -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re:home directory
As a brand new linux/debian user (with help from this list) I have installed debian from downloaded disks and used the 12-96 InfoMagic disk set to dselect packages. I have configured and compiled the kernel (I think/hope). Now when I boot I get a message no directory /home/(my account name). Logging with home =/. When I look in /home there is no diectory for my account name although there was before the recompile effort. When I try to mkdir home/(my account name) I get a mkdir : cannot make directory 'home/(my account name)' : Read only file system. I have tried both as root and in my account. I can create a file in my account name in the / directory. When I ls -l /home the result is total 0. Help. TIA and aloha. Gary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
list archives! Re: where/what is libdl1 ?
On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Riku Voipio wrote: On 18 Jan 1997, Tom Fawcett wrote: Any clues? It occurred to me to search the linux-user archives but both search systems are down. Do you mean the debian-user archive? If they still aren't working, I'm left wondering... not many people seem to know that the list archives _are_ kept up to date, not on the web, but at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/debian-lists/ brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://weber.u.washington.edu/~maximill -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Latex (Debian and Tetex). Was: Fax programs! help please. (fwd)
On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Johann Spies wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Paul Rightley wrote: Also, how do you go about getting/installing TeTeX in Debian? Anyone know of any plans to make a debian package out of this? I use TeTeX on a Slackware system and am very impressed with it. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Backspace, Delete in xterm
On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Brian C. White wrote: Please, PLEASE, correct this! Either set all the ttys to use BS (^H) as the rubout character or fix xterm to send DEL (^?) when the backspace key is pressed. For what it's worth, I used to have problems with backspace and delete until I realized that ctrl-d is delete and ctrl-h is backspace. After a little bit, I'll think you'll even find this setup to be more convenient because your hands never have to grope. Paul Serice -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
When will the 1.2 mb rescue disk be available?
hello, i was wondering when it would be possible to download the disk so that i can put my old northgate on linux? allan - Name: Allan W. Bart, Jr. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/18/97 Time: 7:52:20 PM This message was sent by Chameleon - -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Backspace, Delete in xterm
On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Brian C. White wrote: Please, PLEASE, correct this! Either set all the ttys to use BS (^H) as the rubout character or fix xterm to send DEL (^?) when the backspace key is pressed. For what it's worth, I used to have problems with backspace and delete until I realized that ctrl-d is delete and ctrl-h is backspace. After a little bit, I'll think you'll even find this setup to be more convenient because your hands never have to grope. Sorry, but ctrl-d is not delete and, though ctrl-h is backspace, it is not the rubout character. CTRL-D is an emacs delete-char command that is also recognized by bash, tcsh, and other programs that use enhanced readline. You'll also find that M-D (ESC-D or ALT-D) is kill-word and M-backspace is backward- kill-word. Try the following: 'less any-existing-file' The try to search for something by type /bueue (with no CR). Then try to backspace to change the search string. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- if you have a 50% chance of guessing right,you will guess wrong 75% of the time -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down. From miss Received: from golem.pixar.com (138.72.27.59) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 19 Jan 1997 02:11:09 - Received: (qmail 21411 invoked from smtpd); 19 Jan 1997 00:59:57 - Received: from primer.i-connect.net (HELO master.debian.org) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by golem.pixar.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 1997 00:59:14 - Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:27:06 -0500 From: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Ganguli Consulting Inc. X-Sender: Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Steve Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Best Debian CD? X-Priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: 1kde.0.gd1.CgMuo@master.debian.org Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/3867 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Priority: non-urgent Importance: low Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pete Templin wrote: Hmmmseems to me that Windows NT is a three floppy system. Although three is certainly less than six, three is significantly more than one. I think a single floppy install should be possible, but it would require a different approach than is currently used. I'd like to see an install package that bootstraps from DOS: 1. insert a DOS boot disk that has some common CD-ROM drivers, 2. run an install program directly from the CD. Actually, if you've already got DOS running on your pc, it should be possible to put in the CD and run a setup.exe without ever making a boot floppy. I know it's against most of our philosophies to support the use of DOS in any capacity, but when Caldera releases OpenDOS this could provide a really nice, fast way to install the system and it would still be free. As it stands now, we still need DOS to use rawrite.exe anyway. Another alternative (actually my favourite) is to use ELKS (Linux-8086) to bootstrap regular Linux. Unfortunately it'll be a while before that's feasible. Regards... ... Ami. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: dkpg not allowing installation of xlib6
On Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:18:42 +0200 Johann Spies ([EMAIL PROTECTED] et.co.za) wrote: -- dpkg -i debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb dpkg: considering removing xlib in favour of xlib6 ... Package xlib is on hold, not touching it. Use --force-hold to override. dpkg: regarding debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb containing xlib6: xlib6 conflicts with elf-x11r6lib xlib provides elf-x11r6lib and is installed. dpkg: error processing debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing xlib6 Errors were encountered while processing: debian_1.2/xlib6_3.2-1a.deb -- Is it safe to use dpkg -i --force-hold in this case? Yes. Or better, remove the on-hold status from xlib in dselect. Or purge it. Phil. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
does anyone know where to get 1.1?
Hello, it seems that the emergency disk for 1.2 is not available, therefore i cannot use this old northgate, does anyone know where to get 1.1? allan - Name: Allan W. Bart, Jr. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/18/97 Time: 9:12:37 PM This message was sent by Chameleon - -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Best Debian CD?
Ami Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pete Templin wrote: Hmmmseems to me that Windows NT is a three floppy system. Although three is certainly less than six, three is significantly more than one. I think a single floppy install should be possible, but it would require a different approach than is currently used. I'd like to see an install package that bootstraps from DOS: 1. insert a DOS boot disk that has some common CD-ROM drivers, 2. run an install program directly from the CD. All you need to do is modify the install script to mount the CD and look there for the base.tgz file. Actually, if you've already got DOS running on your pc, it should be possible to put in the CD and run a setup.exe without ever making a boot floppy. Once we get the single boot disk (i.e. one disk that can detect CD's and install Linux) it should be fairly trivial to do it with no disks in the case that dos is available. I know it's against most of our philosophies to support the use of DOS in any capacity, but when Caldera releases OpenDOS this could provide a really nice, fast way to install the system and it would still be free. As it stands now, we still need DOS to use rawrite.exe anyway. It's kinda silly to use OpenDOS in this fashion - it does make sense to do a no-disk system for people who have DOS already on their machines. (You need a disk in any case - it might as well be a linux disk, because you need linux up and detecting the CDROM before it can install anything.) All we really need is some slight modifications to the install script - I was working on it, but this laptop arrived in the mail... Some other developers are looking into it too. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Best Debian CD?
On 15 Jan 1997, Steve Dunham wrote: The guy at LSL says that he will make a Debian-only CD (with the whole thing on it) if we can come up with a single floppy installation system (he will include the single floppy too). (He also said something about helping to support the project too.) Hmmmseems to me that Windows NT is a three floppy system. Although three is certainly less than six, three is significantly more than one. OS/2 Warp 4 is also three floppies, up from two in Warp 3. And, you have to insert all three before getting any menus etc at all, rather than Debian's two. However, it WOULD be nice to read the base from cdrom, rather than disks. This is particularly problematic when trying to find 6 working 1.2mb disks :-) hamish -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Just how much faster is a p133 versus a p90
Walter Tautz writes: - I just upgraded to a p133 from a p90. Clearly it is faster, but - does anyone know the official stats on the performance benefits. This is going to depend almost entirely on the rest of your system and how you use it. For example, if you have 8MB of memory, then you won't see much difference from a chip upgrade at all. Same goes if you mostly do I/O bound tasks. About the best way to figure out how it affects you is to find a benchmark which mimics your usual usage (The BYTE UNIX benchmark is a decent one, so is a full kernel compile). To sum it up, it depends :) -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ One macine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man. --Elbert Hubbard -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
libX11.so.6 files missing!?!?!?!?!
I installed Debian a couple of weeks ago because Slawkware didn't support my ATI vid card, and I finally got X Windows 3.2 up and running, but whenever I try and run a window manager, like tkdesk or fvwm95-2 i get the message File libX11.so.6 not installed. I checked dselect and all the required packages are installed, and I couldn't find a package that included this file. Where do I find these files? How do I make sure they are installed. Also, is there a script file I can modify to set all my BASH settings, not just .bash_profile in my user's root directory? John Hoffmann -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Need help about diald dselect:
Hello all, I have two questions need your help. 1)I configured diald in my system but when I boot my system, I'll get a message during boot. Trying to start diald. /etc/diald/diald.options does not exist. I have the following files in /etc/diald: diald.conf diald.defs diald.init diald.options Can you tell me why I'll get the above message during boot with these files in the right directory? 2)I am trying to use dselect's FTP method without any success. I strted pppd first. The program and my modem seem working properly. I checked /var/log/ppp.log file and the message was like this: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 serila connection established. Using interface ppp0 connect: ppp0 --- /dev/ttyS0 local IP address 202.73.253.153 remote IP address 202.73.252.131 I think above message looks OK. Then I started dselect access method FTP. When dselect was loaded, I got a message hostname: Host name lookup failure. Does this mean anything? I just ignored this message and filled in information for fip site, passive, and username etc then hit return. I got the following messages: Connecting to ftp.debian.org NET::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405 FTP ERROR Can you tell me why? Thanks in advance. Jimmy Lu -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
How can I get my 3 button serial mouse to use all 3 buttons
I just goat a new (cheap) 3 button mouse, proudly pluged it in, ent to /etc/X11/XF86config and commenred out the Emulate3Buttons. Ubfortunately the middle button still doesn'y wrk. What else should I try? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead...Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
ICMP redirect kernel message
Looking through /var/log/messages, I see Jan 18 18:23:34 bigbox kernel: ICMP redirect from IP addr withheld Jan 18 18:23:34 bigbox last message repeated 3 times every few days. Is that an indication of Ping Of Death? Some other problem? -- -Mike Horansky, Leland Consultant (http://consult.stanford.edu/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] OPINIONS EXPRESSED BY ME ARE NOT NECESSARILY SHARED BY MY EMPLOYERS. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: libX11.so.6 files missing!?!?!?!?!
On Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:56:44 EST John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I installed Debian a couple of weeks ago because Slawkware didn't support my ATI vid card, and I finally got X Windows 3.2 up and running, but whenever I try and run a window manager, like tkdesk or fvwm95-2 i get the message File libX11.so.6 not installed. I checked dselect and all the required packages are installed, and I couldn't find a package that included this file. Where do I find these files? How do I make sure they are installed. Add ``/usr/X11R6/lib'' into /etc/ld.so.conf, and run ldconfig as root. This is a debian bug. Also, is there a script file I can modify to set all my BASH settings, not just .bash_profile in my user's root directory? The global bash file is /etc/profile. Phil. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Need help about diald dselect:
1)I configured diald in my system but when I boot my system, I'll get a message during boot. Trying to start diald. /etc/diald/diald.options does not exist. I have the following files in /etc/diald: diald.conf diald.defs diald.init diald.options Can you tell me why I'll get the above message during boot with these files in the right directory? I get this too. The /etc/init.d/diald script fails if diald.options *does* exist. Change the line if [ -x $OPT ]; then to if [ ! -x $OPT ]; then and all will be fixed. hamish -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: How can I get my 3 button serial mouse to use all 3 buttons
I just goat a new (cheap) 3 button mouse, proudly pluged it in, ent to /etc/X11/XF86config and commenred out the Emulate3Buttons. Ubfortunately the middle button still doesn'y wrk. What else should I try? You're probably still using microsoft protocol to talk to the mouse; this does support 3 buttons, but your mouse probably doesn't use it. You should try the toggle rts/cts option; I believe you need also to change your mouse type to mouse systems in that instance. The rts/cts toggle will tell your mouse to change to Mouse Systems mode, which is where it will support three buttons. (Although it may do something different again.) hamish -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
diald problem half fixed
well, it occurs to me that my connect option should just run chat, not pppd connect chat ..., so I've fixed this (although not tested yet). Still unsure about the gateway problem; I guess it might be fixed (since nobody was setting a default route last time, since diald didn't think we'd connected) but I'm not sure. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
diald problems. argh.
I've been avoiding configuring diald for a while because it's always looked (from a distance) like hell. Seems to be confirmed by actually trying it. I'm running named on diald system, and wish to keep doing so. My named is configured to forward to other systems, and appears to do this from non-domain ports, so the link will come up correctly. eg I can go to another machine on the network and look up a web site, and it will try to connect. For added hair loss, I'm using IP masquerading too. However a couple of problems. After connecting, diald says Connect script timed out. Killing script. and this is followed some time later by child process 544 terminated with signal 9 and SIGHUP: modem got hung up on. My /etc/diald/diald.options file says connect /etc/ppp/startppp-diald, and that file says pppd connect chat -f /etc/ppp/chatscript which contains my chatscript, and works fine. (I've been dialing for the past few months by running pppd manually.) Any suggestions as to why I get the kill problem? Other problem. I am using dynamic IPs. In diald.options, I put my IP as 203.12.22.253 (eg a dummy on my ISP's network), and the remote IP as 203.12.22.254. When the link comes up, diald establishes a default route but uses the dummy remote address as the gateway, not the real gateway from pppd. If I remove the dud default and add the correct one, it works fine. (Until I get hung up). Your thoughts appreciated! thanks, Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just how much faster is a p133 versus a p90
I just upgraded to a p133 from a p90. Clearly it is faster, but does anyone know the official stats on the performance benefits. -Walter -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down. I have received this message and about three others from the list about 5 times now. Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Log of 1.2.2 install available
I wrote:
I recently did a clean install of Debian 1.2.2 and there were a couple
of gotcha's which I thought were below the normal standard of a Debian
release (meaning I had to ask for help :).
I've made the complete log (starting at the first dselect) available
as
http://svr-www.eng.cam.ac.uk/~ajr/debian-1.2.2-install.gz (658305
bytes), you can cat to a console login to replay it although it is too
fast (I intend to generate a simple script to play it slowly).
If I'm not beaten by another release I'll summarise.
Here is a script that will play the above URL in a console screen:
awk '{print $0 ; for(i=0; i 5;i++);}' debian-1.2.2-install
Okay, first off I tried a straight install, that is runnning through
dselect and specifying a valid NFS server and taking the default package
distribution. Here the only problem (apart from a dpkg - warning,
overriding problem because --force enabled for
/usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/CORE/libperl.a) was the fact that
/usr/X11R6/lib is missing from /etc/ld.so.conf:
# echo /usr/X11R6/lib /etc/ld.so.conf
# cat /etc/ld.so.conf
/usr/local/lib
/usr/lib/i486-linuxaout
/usr/X11R6/lib
# ldconfig
I reran dselect and this time I thought texbin (3.1415-5) set up
properly but looking through the logs there are several instances of:
The letter y^M
0 SSW 1 WSW (SSW SSE) ESE ENE 2 (NNE) NNW 3 (WNW) WSW WNW (NNW NNE) ENE 0 (ES\
^M
E SSE)^M
! Strange path (turning number is zero).^M
to be read again ^M
;^M
l.793 filldraw stroke term.e(6',7,left,1,4);^M
fi % arc and terminal^M
The letter z) (/usr/lib/texmf/fonts/source/public/mf/greeku.mf^M
Uppercase Greek Gamma^M
I don't know the significance of this. Anyway, at last I had an
Installation OK. message.
I went back to select and took all the math and tex packages, swaping gs
for gs-aladdin. Here textfm, amstex and xypic gave warnings of trying
to overwrite files that were in other packages and I got:
Warning, the Debian distribution expects a symlink to^M
/etc/emacs/site-start.el^M
at^M
/usr/lib/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.el^M
which does not seem right for an out of the box system.
In the next pass I selected all games and nearly everything in x11
(VGA16 and S3). xbase was not happy that /usr/bin/X11 was not a symlink
and was presentin other packages.
dpkg Unpacked gnuchess-book, then noted that it had been completely
replaced but later still gave the error:
dpkg: error processing gnuchess-book (--install):^M
no package named `gnuchess-book' is installed, cannot configure^M
When it came to setting up X I was asked:
Do you want to make the S3 X server the default? (y/n) [y] y
The S3 X server is now the default.^M
Do you want to create the XFree86 configuration file? (y/n) [y] y
which gave me a nice blue screen just to say:
Not all of the configuration and application default files are
installed. The file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc is missing
The only way out is OK and then answer no to creating the conf file:
Do you want to create the XFree86 configuration file? (y/n) [y] n
The XFree86 configuration file will not be created.
To create it later, run /usr/sbin/xbase-configure as root.
grep: /etc/X11/config: No such file or directory
grep: /etc/X11/config: No such file or directory
sed: can't read /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing xserver-s3 (--install):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
which looks like a dependacy problem in that xbase needs to configured
first - at the end of configuring xbase I had a (mostly) working XF86Config.
Hence at the end of this Install pass I was left with:
Errors were encountered while processing:^M
gnuchess-book^M
xserver-s3^M
A Config pass cleared the xserver-s3 problem and hte other seems to be
cosmetic.
In the next pass I tried to install wqhat I wanted from the admin
section and swap inn for inewsinn. The latter proved difficult through
the conflict:
dpkg: regarding .../news/inewsinn_1.4unoff4-1.deb containing inewsinn:^M
inn conflicts with inews^M
inewsinn provides inews and is to be installed.^M
dpkg: error processing
/var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt/debian/stable/binary-i386/new/inewsinn_1.4unoff4-1.deb
(--install):^M
conflicting packages - not installing inewsinn^M
The only was I could find out of this hole was to remove all News
packages and start again with the inewsinn package which I wanted.
Even though I could NFS mount my local debian mirror I moved to teh FTP
method as it was less verbose and I felt I had more chance of catching
the error messages. I installed a bunch more packages without problem.
I hope this is of some use to somebody, if only to document how far
Debian has got in terms of effort to install.
Tony Robinson
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Can anyone send me the 1.2mb rescue disk
Hello, i know that this is a lot to ask ,but i would like to set up my linux system over the weekend. could anyone email me the 1.2mb rescue/boot disk. allan i can ftp also - Name: Allan W. Bart, Jr. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/19/97 Time: 7:16:32 AM This message was sent by Chameleon - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diald problems. argh.
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:44:32 +1100 Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED] rmit.edu.au) wrote: My /etc/diald/diald.options file says connect /etc/ppp/startppp-diald, and that file says pppd connect chat -f /etc/ppp/chatscript which contains my chatscript, and works fine. (I've been dialing for the past few months by running pppd manually.) You're starting pppd yourself in the connect script while diald expects to start pppd itself. The connect script should just execute the `chat' command. Re-read the diald manpage and look in the mail archives, I've already explained that one week ago. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Duplicate Messages
Help! I'm drowning in duplicate messages. Is there a problem with the list server? I've been getting up to four or five duplicates of the same message. Victor -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's the ALT-F4 stuff?
Robert == Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Exactly what is this multi screen session concept that Robert allows you to type ALT-F4 and login again... I'd like to Robert read the documentation on this feature. It's virtual consoles! Since Linux is multiuser, you can login more than once. And using the 'gpm' (General Purpose Mouse) program, you can even copy and paste text between VC's. (man gpm, man gpm-root) 'gpm-root' gives you pop-up menus on the text console, which will let you flip over to other VC's higher than the number of function keys you have. The virtual consoles are defined in '/etc/inittab', and the 'getty's and 'login's are run by 'init'. (man inittab, man getty, man init). You can press ALT-F1 through ALT-Fx (look in your inittab to see how many VC's are currently defined. Linux can support up to 64 of them, once the proper device special files are created for them.) Left-Alt Left/Right arrow will cycle through the VC's as well. I've not a memorized list of the docs you should read; but this should get you started. (I assume you've already discovered the 'man' command? man man, man bash, help) -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: does anyone know where to get 1.1?
At 09:12 PM 1/18/97 PST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, it seems that the emergency disk for 1.2 is not available, therefore i cannot use this old northgate, does anyone know where to get 1.1? You need the 'rescue' disk as bootfloppy. It's available everywhere. 1.1 is outdated :) -- // Remco van de Meent // email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // www: http://cam053212.student.utwente.nl // -- Never make any mistaeks -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diald problems. argh.
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:44:32 +1100 Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED] rmit.edu.au) wrote: My /etc/diald/diald.options file says connect /etc/ppp/startppp-diald, and that file says pppd connect chat -f /etc/ppp/chatscript which contains my chatscript, and works fine. (I've been dialing for the past few months by running pppd manually.) You're starting pppd yourself in the connect script while diald expects to start pppd itself. The connect script should just execute the `chat' command. Re-read the diald manpage and look in the mail archives, I've already explained that one week ago. Thanks. Now, is there a way I can have diald ignore ping packets destined for a particular host? I want to run ping to keep the ISP from timing out, but I don't want the packets to stop the link from being taken down by this end. I put ignore icmp ip.daddr=203.12.22.10 in /etc/diald/diald.conf but this does not seem to be having the effect; the link has been idle long enough to be hung up, and the only traffic (according to tcpdump) is some inter-named stuff and the icmp traffic. thanks, Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Leader appearing on Long Island and Rochester N.Y.
Bruce Perens wrote: I'll be at the Linux Expo in North Carolina in April, and plan to visit France and England in May (although that date could change). Thanks Bruce Perens Do keep the masses informed on the French plans. I have to go to Paris all the time, and I've been known to hoist the odd one... or twelve. Alain. - Dr. Alain Nadeau Institute of Medieval Studies University of Fribourg (Switzerland) http://www.unifr.ch/iem/welcome.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
slang and xterm
I have encountered the following problem since moving to Debian (1.2), and I must admit I cannot find the solution. It appears that some binaries compiled with slang (jed and most in any event) will not load in an xterm (nor for that matter in an rxvt, itself an slang binary!): the reply is always: terminal not powerful enough for slang. Never saw that before. Is it a matter of updating the Slang lib? They work fine on a tty, xjed works fine as well. Any clue? Alain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lp1 out of paper
I know my printer is out of paper. Its also out of electricity, being that it's in a cupboard in the basement. Still, the above message is sent to /var/log/messages every 10 seconds, day in day out. I've recompiled my kernel (2.0.27) specifically disabling printer support, but that message is still spewed out every ten seconds. I cannot for the life of me find where that call is made. Could a kind soul tell me how to disable printer support for good (I do my printout stuff on the nice Laserjet at the office...). Thanks in advance, Alain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I get my 3 button serial mouse to use all three buttons
Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just goat a new (cheap) 3 button mouse, proudly pluged it in, ent to /etc/X11/XF86config and commenred out the Emulate3Buttons. Ubfortunately the middle button still doesn'y wrk. What else should I try? I recommend using the mouse-test program to diagnose mouse problems. It's part of the gpm source distribution, but not the binary one so you have to compile it yourself (but this isn't hard). It does a good job of working out what protocol your mouse is talking without any brain work. Tony. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latex (Debian and Tetex).
On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Michael Stutz wrote: On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Johann Spies wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Paul Rightley wrote: Also, how do you go about getting/installing TeTeX in Debian? Anyone know of any plans to make a debian package out of this? I use TeTeX on a Slackware system and am very impressed with it. Well, you are probably in the same position as me and lots of other Debian users who'd prefer teTeX over the TeX/LaTeX system provided with the distribution. You'd like to have teTeX as Debian package and you distrust the (supposedly outdated?) teTeX as provided by RedHat which could be installed via the 'alien' command. And you lack the skills of building and maintain a teTeX package yourself because you are trained in another profession very far away from computer stuff. Thanks goodness teTeX really is easy to install in /usr/local/ but this doesn't solve the dependancy problems. I suppose we need at least some kind of wrapper script for fulfilling the dependancy stuff but someone knowledgeable enough has to provide it... Looks like we are stuck somehow. Any capable volunteers? P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disk copies and kernel paging request failures
I modified a little public domain dos program that will do a sector for sector copy of one hard drive to up to three other hard drives. Its very handy for quickly duplicating a linux configuration onto other disks of the same type. I've noticed one problem however, When I first start up some of these new disks, I tend to get a rash of Unable to handle kernel paging request errors (2 to 4 of them) in the first day of operation and then they seem to go away. I believe they may be disk related because I see the problem happen with different programs and I seem to have plenty of swap space available when it happens (I've seen it happen with top running and I was using about 1.5MB of swap out of 32MB available). I'm adding a checksum verify to the program this morning and I'm going to start forcing fsck on newly copied disks. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Should I be doing a mkswap -C after the copy (to force a check for bad blocks)? Is there a fsck for swap? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, Al Youngwerth [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. if anyone is interested in the disk copy progam, I can send you a copy. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lp1 out of paper
Alain == Alain Nadeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alain I know my printer is out of paper. Its also out of Alain electricity, being that it's in a cupboard in the Alain basement. Still, the above message is sent to Alain /var/log/messages every 10 seconds, day in day out. I've Alain recompiled my kernel (2.0.27) specifically disabling Alain printer support, but that message is still spewed out every Alain ten seconds. I cannot for the life of me find where that Alain call is made. Could a kind soul tell me how to disable Alain printer support for good (I do my printout stuff on the Alain nice Laserjet at the office...). I had this same problem. It was extremely irritating. I even tried putting paper in the printer ;-) to no avail. I finally discovered that there was a long-dead print job on the queue. When I 'lprm'd it, the messages stopped. -- Nathan L. Cutler Linux Enthusiast http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~nlc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-problem,libs lost
When I try to launch x-apps like xtetris or afterstep, I get the following error-message: cannot load libbg.s0.3, for example. I know that I have these files in /usr/X11R6/lib. How do I fix this? This problem occurs with every X-pgm, TWM works fine though :^( Is it possible to upgrade afterstep 0.98 to 1.00 or should I install it again? Thanks in advance. Marko [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help about diald dselect:
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Lu Jimmy Chenji wrote: 2)I am trying to use dselect's FTP method without any success. I strted pppd first. The program and my modem seem working properly. I checked /var/log/ppp.log file and the message was like this: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 serila connection established. Using interface ppp0 connect: ppp0 --- /dev/ttyS0 local IP address 202.73.253.153 remote IP address 202.73.252.131 I think above message looks OK. Then I started dselect access method FTP. When dselect was loaded, I got a message hostname: Host name lookup failure. Does this mean anything? I just ignored this message and filled in information for fip site, passive, and username etc then hit return. I got the following messages: Connecting to ftp.debian.org NET::FTP: Bad hostname 'ftp.debian.org' at /usr/lib/perl5/Net/FTP.pm line 405 FTP ERROR Just wondering, did you set up your /etc/resolb.conf file for the DNS server of your ISP. That should solve your problems. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk copies and kernel paging request failures
why don't yout just use dd from the linux side. If you do it in single user mode, when you reboot with the new hard drive you should only get a few errors which should be easily corrected. Shaya On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Al Youngwerth wrote: I modified a little public domain dos program that will do a sector for sector copy of one hard drive to up to three other hard drives. Its very handy for quickly duplicating a linux configuration onto other disks of the same type. I've noticed one problem however, When I first start up some of these new disks, I tend to get a rash of Unable to handle kernel paging request errors (2 to 4 of them) in the first day of operation and then they seem to go away. I believe they may be disk related because I see the problem happen with different programs and I seem to have plenty of swap space available when it happens (I've seen it happen with top running and I was using about 1.5MB of swap out of 32MB available). I'm adding a checksum verify to the program this morning and I'm going to start forcing fsck on newly copied disks. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Should I be doing a mkswap -C after the copy (to force a check for bad blocks)? Is there a fsck for swap? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, Al Youngwerth [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. if anyone is interested in the disk copy progam, I can send you a copy. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hylafax?
On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote: What happened to the gentleman who was going to provide Hylafax packages? That's me. I've been running it internally for 6 weeks or so now (as a very messy package). I'm in the midst of converting it to use debmake as the minute and will be uploading it to master in a day or so (just started a mass package upload!). Sorry for the delayI had to get it working here quickly and once the pressure eased I never got around to tidying it up. Dermot -- Dermot BradleyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications Director Tel: +44 1232 572003 Genesis Project Ltd Fax: +44 1232 560553 Belfast Coleraine Desertmartin, N.I. WWW: http://www.gpl.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: diald problems. argh.
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: My /etc/diald/diald.options file says connect /etc/ppp/startppp-diald, and that file says pppd connect chat -f /etc/ppp/chatscript This is becoming an FAQ. As stated in the doumentation, your chat script should not start pppd. diald starts pppd when it is ready. your chat script is only for chatting -- that is getting the connection up. Change your /etc/ppp/startppp-diald to: chat -f /etc/ppp/chatscript Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
home directory
I apologize for the multiple posting of my newbie question. I only went through the send process once but I did notice that the message didn't show up for several hours -- and then kept showing up. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tar xvMf /dev/fd0 causes Segmentation faults.
Hi there, I have Debian1.2 running kernel 2.0.27. The tar package version is 1.11.8-5. I can create multipy floppy archive using 'tar cvMf /dev/fd0' but NOT retrieving it using 'tar xvMf /dev/fd0'. I always get 'Segmentation faults and then core dumped' when I tried the latter ??!!. I think I can do 'tar tvMf /dev/fd0' as well ?? Any idea ??? Thanks H.C.Lai -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ANNOUNCE: New Logo and Feedback Page for the Debian Logo (v5)
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Re: Can anyone send me the 1.2mb rescue disk
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, i know that this is a lot to ask ,but i would like to set up my linux system over the weekend. could anyone email me the 1.2mb rescue/boot disk. The new 1997-01-18 disk set is still making it's way to the primary mirror (ftp.debian.org). Until the mirrors catch up, you can get the full set from: ftp://dwarf.polaris.net/debian/1997-01-18 I'll try to stay on the air all afternoon and into the late evening (Easter Standard) so come test these puppies. Thanks, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slang and xterm
I have encountered the following problem since moving to Debian (1.2), and I must admit I cannot find the solution. It appears that some binaries compiled with slang (jed and most in any event) will not load in an xterm (nor for that matter in an rxvt, itself an slang binary!): the reply is always: terminal not powerful enough for slang. Never saw that before. Is it a matter of updating the Slang lib? They work fine on a tty, xjed works fine as well. Any clue? Well, when I was still seeing that message, typing TERMCAP= in xterm would solve the problem, and at least slrn would start up. (The problem beeing that slang binaries first try to see the terminal's capabilities from the TERMCAP var, and in xterm that doesn't show everything. If TERMCAP is undefined, it looks at TERM, and realizes it's an xterm, and then everything is OK). But for some reason, slrn now doesn't come up with that message any more (maybe new version of slrn). -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Networking questions....
I have a desktop machine running Debian 1.2 and a Tecra with a 3c589 etherlink card. I'd like to know why I cannot just plug in and boot my laptop and expect the cards ethernet light to be on. The only way the ethernet gets setup right is when I've rebooted my desktop machine. Only then will the laptops ethernet be lit. With David Hinds's pcmcia_cs should I be able to unplug the etherlink and simply reinsert it and expect the ethernet light to be on? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lp1 out of paper
Nathan L. Cutler wrote: Alain == Alain Nadeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (...) the above message is sent to Alain /var/log/messages every 10 seconds, day in day out. I've Alain recompiled my kernel (2.0.27) specifically disabling Alain printer support, but that message is still spewed out every Alain ten seconds. I cannot for the life of me find where that Alain call is made. I had this same problem. It was extremely irritating. I even tried putting paper in the printer ;-) to no avail. I finally discovered that there was a long-dead print job on the queue. When I 'lprm'd it, the messages stopped. Dear Nathan ! I have seen the light! Two thoroughly unknown print jobs were indeed lurking in my /var/spool/lpd/lp directory. I have no idea where they came from! They have been happily lprm'ed, and the pesky message is gone... Thanks a lot for the great tip: that is one I won't forget! Alain. --- Alain Nadeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slang and xterm
always:
terminal not powerful enough for slang. Never saw that before. Is it a
matter of updating the Slang lib? They work fine on a tty, xjed works
fine as well. Any clue?
From slrn's README.debian:
If you want to run slrn in an xterm, slrn may say that your display
isn't powerfull enough. This is not true, it just doesn't know how
to handle xterm. The problem is that the TERMCAP variable is set to
an invalid value, something like: co#80:li#24:
To fix this problem, simply clear the TERMCAP variable. Ie, run
unset TERMCAP
(You may want to put this in ~/.bash_profile, or /etc/profile)
I hope this is solved in a later version of xterm or slang.
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Re: slang and xterm
But for some reason, slrn now doesn't come up with that message
any more (maybe new version of slrn).
It doesn't?
Wow, you're right. I think that the new version of the slang library fixed
this. Joost, are you running slang0.99.34?
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Re: slang and xterm
But for some reason, slrn now doesn't come up with that message any more (maybe new version of slrn). It doesn't? Wow, you're right. I think that the new version of the slang library fixed this. Sorry, I said new version of slrn, but I meant new versoin of slang. Anyway, I didn't want to bother checking. Joost, are you running slang0.99.34? Yes. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free space on Linux Drive
I think this a simple enough question, but even my Unix teacher can't answer it. I just installed Debian on my 586 Windoze machine, with a 200mb partition. The first time I installed it on 100 megs but I ran out of room. My question is how can I check how much space is left on my Linux partition. I DOS, I can use chkdsk, is there a similiar function in Linux? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free space on Linux Drive
I think this a simple enough question, but even my Unix teacher can't answer it. I just installed Debian on my 586 Windoze machine, with a 200mb partition. The first time I installed it on 100 megs but I ran out of room. My question is how can I check how much space is left on my Linux partition. I DOS, I can use chkdsk, is there a similiar function in Linux? The desired unix command is df. Often you can find commands like this by using the -k (keyword) option of man. If you want to search for multiple keywords, pipe the output into grep. callandor:~ man -k free | grep disk df (1) - summarize free disk space callandor:~ df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/sda3 463950 34556794422 79% / /dev/sda1 478960 44904829912 94% /dos /dev/sdb1 198428 17311225316 87% /dosd ftp:/home/ftp 987251 786053 150192 84% /home/ftp cvs:/var/cvs 987251 786053 150192 84% /var/cvs home:/home/verisim987251 786053 150192 84% /home/verisim fax:/var/spool/fax987251 786053 150192 84% /var/spool/fax gnats:/var/gnats-db 987251 786053 150192 84% /var/gnats-db gate:/export/tmp 987251 786053 150192 84% /tmpmnt Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.01. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slang and xterm
Wow, you're right. I think that the new version of the slang library fixed this. Sorry, I said new version of slrn, but I meant new versoin of slang. Anyway, I didn't want to bother checking. Joost, are you running slang0.99.34? Yes. Thanks to both Joost and Joey! I've unset my TERMCAP and everything is working fine, as they said. I'll be moving up to slang 0.99.34 as well soon. Best, Alain. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Experiencing lockups
When running X , every time I go out to the kitchen and getting something to eat and come back the machines is locked up. The mouse pointer's no where to be seen. and it takes _several_ reports _even_ after a powerdown to get keyboard to work again at the login prompt. Very confusing. I was running in 24 bit mode if that matters. .27 kernel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best Debian CD?
According to Ami Ganguli: Actually, if you've already got DOS running on your pc, it should be possible to put in the CD and run a setup.exe without ever making a boot floppy. MS-DOS may not be installed on every system running Linux. I just recently installed an e-mail server with Debian Linux that does not require a DOS partition. In fact, the ideal would be to have applications available such that DOS or Win95 partitions are not required. IMHO we should continue to support DOS/FAT and Win95/VFAT file systems w/o requiring them for Debian installation. I know it's against most of our philosophies to support the use of DOS in any capacity, but when Caldera releases OpenDOS this could provide a really nice, fast way to install the system and it would still be free. As it stands now, we still need DOS to use rawrite.exe anyway. rawrite.exe is not necessary. You can use dd from an existing Linux/unix system. -- \/ \ Carl Greco PHONE voice: (402) 496-3381 / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \==/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free space on Linux Drive
df will tell you how much space their is on each partition du will tell you how much space each directory is taking up. Shaya On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, John wrote: I think this a simple enough question, but even my Unix teacher can't answer it. I just installed Debian on my 586 Windoze machine, with a 200mb partition. The first time I installed it on 100 megs but I ran out of room. My question is how can I check how much space is left on my Linux partition. I DOS, I can use chkdsk, is there a similiar function in Linux? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free space on Linux Drive
( Re Message From: John ) I think this a simple enough question, but even my Unix teacher can't answer it. I just installed Debian on my 586 Windoze machine, with a 200mb partition. The first time I installed it on 100 megs but I ran out of room. My question is how can I check how much space is left on my Linux partition. I DOS, I can use chkdsk, is there a similiar function in Linux? Unexpectedly, the command to run is df. The most important command for people who don't yet know what they can do is apropos. In your case, you want to know about free disk space so you can try apropos free disk space which will throw up summaries of all commands that have to do with free or disk or space, including the command df. df is on most if not all UNIX systems; apropos should be on all; I would expect these things to be known by most experienced UNIX people. Ted.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X windows
I am running X using xdm. Is there a more elegent way to go to the full screen consoles than kill xdm. When I try to exit fvwm, on the middle button menu, it kills all my windows and restarts X with a new login prompt. Thanks Rob N9NPU Less is more; more or less. -- This message was delayed because the list mail delivery agent was down.
Re: Best Debian CD?
Actually, if you've already got DOS running on your pc, it should be possible to put in the CD and run a setup.exe without ever making a boot floppy. MS-DOS may not be installed on every system running Linux. I just recently installed an e-mail server with Debian Linux that does not require a DOS partition. Still I'd say it'd be a good idea, if the system could be installed without having to make boot disks... That's what I liked about RedHat3 when it came out, you could just start linux from the dos prompt and the installation didn't even require you to write boot/root/base disks. (Still for quite a few reasons, I am happy I changed to debian - but I really think that this feature would be good, I just don't like all the hassle with those 6 disks you need for the installation, if everything could alternatively also be done from the CD directly. Benedikt signoff --- Benedikt Eric Heinen - Muehlemattstrasse 53 - CH3007 Bern - SWITZERLAND email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FUTURE, n. That period of time in which our affairs prosper, our friends are true and our happiness is assured. Ambrose Bierce ``The Devil's Dictionary'' -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-problem,libs lost
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:26:48 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to launch x-apps like xtetris or afterstep, I get the following error-message: cannot load libbg.s0.3, for example. I know that I have these files in /usr/X11R6/lib. How do I fix this? This problem occurs with every X-pgm, TWM works fine though :^( Do you have the line ``/usr/X11R6/lib'' in /etc/ld.so.conf ? If not, add it and run ldconfig as root. This was an early Debian 1.2 bug. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X windows
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Rob MacWilliams wrote: I am running X using xdm. Is there a more elegent way to go to the full screen consoles than kill xdm. When I try to exit fvwm, on the middle I don't know if I misunderstood your question... how about just switching virtual console (ctrl-alt-f1) ? // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
runlevels and modules
I have two small questions today ;) : a) where can I find information about what the different debian run-levels are used for? 0 is halt, 6 is reboot, 1 is singleuser, but what about the rest? Are there an multiuser with X and one without X? b) when I do an 'lsmod' it says that appletalk, ipx and serial modules are installed. They are used by 0 (autoclean) or 1 (autoclean). What does autoclean mean? I think I should get rid of appletalk and ipx as I don't use them and they're just wasting my memory... Thanks in advance... // Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2:201/262.37] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some thoughts for Debian.
I've been watching the debates about Cds, dividing up non-free, and etc.. And I had a few thoughts I wanted to throw out at everyone. I think if debian is going to succeed, it's going to have to be reduced to a standard set of core applications that will make up the offical distribution of debian. Right now, the distribution is huge and it's getting bigger. In the process, it seems less is getting done in the way of providing comprehensive testing, marketing, etc.. of each new release. Many people are handling multiple packages and getting either burnt out or don't have enough time to adequatly test the packages they do maintain. While I understand and applaud the basic concepts behind Debian, it's success will depend on what the commercial community does with it. Therefor, I think the following needs to be done to help Debian get going in the right direction. 1) I realize this process will start a religious debate over what program is the best, but, someone ( everyone? ) needs to decide on the core packages that will make up the offcial distribution. ie smail, sendmail, qmail, etc. which one will debian choose as the default for the distribution? in the case of user apps, one application could be choosen that works on terminals and one that works in X. ( where possible ) ie users will need a mail reader. for terminals: elm for X: exmh this will create a standardized distribution that commercial vendors can easily support. it will reduce greatly the size of the main distribution and will allow devlopers to focus on just the applications that make up the offical distribution plus allow easier beta testing of the distribution as a whole. some things, like games, should definatly not be part of the offcial distribution. while i dearly love xtetris, you can't consider it a necessity. 2) Everything else could be moved over to contrib. ie... since mutt ( a mail reader ) wasn't choosen as part of the offical distribution, it gets put in contrib/mail this will provide alternatives while allowing for a so-called official distribution. someone could be put in charge of maintaining the contrib directory ( oversee the layout of dirs, etc ) but the packages shouldn't be a concern of the core developers... its basically the same system that is in place now, but it shouldn't be bruce's or any other core developers problem if the program doesn't work. 3) revamp the web pages. its the first place a user might check for info on debian and they look really bad right now. ( i know this has already been discussed ) 4) open up the release dates a bit. last i heard, the push was for 3 month cycles. open it to 6 months. while those who want to stay on the cutting edge can do so, some people and most companies want stabilty. this is one area i don't have a clear understanding of. alot of people were excited about the release of slackware96 but the release of debian 1.2 came and went. weird. 5) the quest for a debian logo has produced some really good work from users of debian. i think a similiar push should be made for debian documentation. i know there are some debian users out there who are good at writing and debian could use some really well written FAQs, installation procedures, HOWTOs, etc... just some thoughts -- - Willie Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.quicklink.net/~gith/ - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dos is useful for...
booting up first when taking a system to the repair shop. At least this is what I do. They needn't be aware of the linux, but actually the shop I bring it too do sell and install pc unix like sco. -walter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: runlevels and modules
On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Jonas Bofjall wrote: I have two small questions today ;) : a) where can I find information about what the different debian run-levels are used for? 0 is halt, 6 is reboot, 1 is singleuser, but what about the rest? Are there an multiuser with X and one without X? Look at the man page for init(8) and /etc/inittab for some extra details. b) when I do an 'lsmod' it says that appletalk, ipx and serial modules are installed. They are used by 0 (autoclean) or 1 (autoclean). What does autoclean mean? I think I should get rid of appletalk and ipx as I don't use them and they're just wasting my memory... kerneld is a daemon which will load and unload modules on demand. However it won't do this unless you add auto (without quotes) as the first line in /etc/modules. You should also comment out with a # any other lines in that file which represent modules which you don't want to be loaded on startup. -- Jaldhar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where can I find xterm_color?
I finally got X Windows up and running, and I'm using fvwm95, but when I try and start a new sheel, the message xterm_color appears in my login window. Also, how do I set the LS_OPTIONS so that my directory listings will be in color? Right now I am using an alias, but that's a sloppy way to do it. Also, does fvwm95 support colorized listings? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free space on Linux Drive
In linux/unix trype df to see how much space you have, how much is used, and how much is left. Chad Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, John wrote: I think this a simple enough question, but even my Unix teacher can't answer it. I just installed Debian on my 586 Windoze machine, with a 200mb partition. The first time I installed it on 100 megs but I ran out of room. My question is how can I check how much space is left on my Linux partition. I DOS, I can use chkdsk, is there a similiar function in Linux? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
