RE: Compaq Mouse vs PPP vs hostname

1997-11-25 Thread Hogland, Thomas E.

  Also, the system refuses to take a hostname. I've reinstalled it
 several
  times (I'm using it as a training tool) and it seems to alternate
  between UNKNOWN_13 and (none). Typing hostname DLinux to set
 the
  name (or just hostname) gives hostname: command not found. PPP
 seems
  to be quite flaky on this system - would this affect the connection
  stability?
 
 From user
 $ hostname Dlinux
 hostname: you must be root to change the host name
 
 The program should be /bin/hostname
 As far as it is alternating, you might want to check your
 /etc/ppp/ip-up
 file (and /etc/ppp/ip-down).  My (non-stock) setup changes my
 hostname to match with what my ISP says has designame for my dynamic
 IP.
 Also, if you reboot your machine the hostname is retrieved from
 /etc/hostname.
 
Looked around the system - #find / -name hostname shows
/usr/doc/hostname and /proc/sys/kernel/hostname... My /usr/pppup/ip-up
and /usr/pppup/ip-down are calling /etc/HOSTNAME (which doesn't exist so
I created it). Nothing else strikes me as odd. Reboot, and noticed an
error:
/etc/init.d/boot: hostname: command not found
Copied HOSTNAME to hostname and rebooting got rid of the error
but din't change anything else... Next step is to remove extra modules
in modconf (maybe a conflict?) and try again... Otherwise it's another
fresh install (and this time no adding extras to it until it works!)


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ppp help

1997-11-25 Thread wmclemore
Hi, 
  This is the first time installing Debian or any other linux and I'm having a 
big problem setting up the ppp conection. If anybody can help I'd be more than 
greatful

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Re: tape driver configuration

1997-11-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 04:18:25PM +, G. Kapetanios wrote:
 I have just installed a new tape driver ( seagate travan 3200 ). I have
 tried it u der windows and it works ok. I am trying to make it work under
 Linux. I have installed ftape-2.0.30 and am using a 2.0.30 kernel. When
 ftape was installed it complain that the modules were unresolved symbols.
 I thought I should recomplile with modversion switched off but I gave it a
 try with modprobe and the modules seemed to load OK. Then I tried
 garfield:~# ftmt -f /dev/qft0 status
 as mentioned in the manual but got 
 ftmt: /dev/qft0: Device not configured
 after the floppy disk was accesed brielfy the tape driver was not accessed
 at all. What am I doing wrong ?. A quick look at the documwentation
 included mainly info on compiling. What about some debian specific info ?
 Any help will be appreciated.

You need to add some parameters when loading the modules to tell
ftape what sort of tape controller you have. There should be 
information about this in the html pages that come with ftape-2.0.30.
You can put your command line in /etc/conf.modules so that you don't
have to type it each time.


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printing in 2.1.x kernels

1997-11-25 Thread Matt Thompson
did i hear that there are problems here?  i have two dev kernels, one
based on 2.1.59 and one on 2.1.65 and neither seems to want to print
anything.  as soon as i reboot into my 2.0.29 kernel, the jobs spooled
start printing before the system even finishes booting.

do i need to change any configs?

(i am using the dev kernels because i have an Intel EtherExpress ProB
10/100 and the driver is built in.  i still haven't been able to get my
win95 laptop networked with my Debian box, but i'll keep working on it a
while before i ask for help. :) )

thanks...

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Re: zipdirve

1997-11-25 Thread Erv Walter
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Holler) writes: 

 One more thing that might be a bit confusing... The Parallel Zip
 Drive installs as a SCSI device under Linux and does not as of yet
 support port thru for a prin ter plugged into the Zip Drive. If you
 want to connect your Parallel Zip and a p rinter at the same
 time... you will need 2 Parallel ports. I recommend the SCSI type of
 Zip Drive because it is faster and doesn't screw with your printer.
 Keith

This is not true.  The parport patch to 2.0.x kernels provides the
ablility to use the printer on the passthrough port at the same time
as the zip (I can print a file on a zip disk).  It is quite stable
(never had a problem) and adds EPP support to the zip driver which
greatly increases the speed of the parallel driver.

This support is of course standard in the experimental series 2.1.

Good Luck,
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Re: zipdirve

1997-11-25 Thread Keith Holler
KEWL!!! FINALLY! I am so glad you told me that. I have been working on my own pa
tch for it and have yet to get it to work.

Keith

On 25-Nov-97 Erv Walter wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Holler) writes: 

 One more thing that might be a bit confusing... The Parallel Zip
 Drive installs as a SCSI device under Linux and does not as of yet
 support port thru for a prin ter plugged into the Zip Drive. If you
 want to connect your Parallel Zip and a p rinter at the same
 time... you will need 2 Parallel ports. I recommend the SCSI type of
 Zip Drive because it is faster and doesn't screw with your printer.
 Keith

This is not true.  The parport patch to 2.0.x kernels provides the
ablility to use the printer on the passthrough port at the same time
as the zip (I can print a file on a zip disk).  It is quite stable
(never had a problem) and adds EPP support to the zip driver which
greatly increases the speed of the parallel driver.

This support is of course standard in the experimental series 2.1.

Good Luck,
Erv

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Re: Yamaha CDrecorder 400tx

1997-11-25 Thread Kirk Hilliard
On Nov 24, 11:31, Timothy Phan wrote:
   I'd like to know has anyone here used the Yamaha CD Recorder 400tx
   with Adaptec 2940 scsi control under Debian/Linux to record files
   succesfully?

   I've just purchased the recorder and try out the command:
 $ cdwrite --eject
   and the kernel/Adaptec driver kept printing out of a lot of message
   concerning the timeout on the CDrecorder device.

Hi Timothy!

Use cdrecord, not cdwrite (which I understand is very out of date).  I
have only done simple things, such as recording images made with
mkisofs, but cdrecord has worked with my Yamaha CDR400tx.
Unfortunately, last I looked, the only Debian cdrecord package was in
hamm (unstable), so I grabbed the sources from
  http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html
and built it myself without any problems.

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I need help with internic registration process!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1997-11-25 Thread Eliezer Figueroa
I am building a webserver to use it for my company. I have problems 
because I want to register in internic a
name now in order to use it in about 3 months with my webserver. The 
Problem is that since the webserver is not ready I do not know how to 
register it without IP adresses. 

I thought that maybe I can to register now and point it to other one 
webserver and later change it to my own
IP adresses but I do not know how to make that.

Please someone help me to do that as soom as posible. If is imposible to 
register a name without starting 
using it please tell that to me.

I want to register the name tomorow.

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Re: ppp help

1997-11-25 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
   This is the first time installing Debian or any other linux and I'm having 
 a big problem setting up the ppp conection. If anybody can help I'd be more 
 than greatful
 

No need to be greatful, just being appreciative will do. ;) If you
could send a little more detail on your problem, we'd all be
grateful. Have you installed the pppd package? Did you try using
pon? Do you get connected at all? Have you turned on debugging in
pppd? Can you give us the output?

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slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Joey Hess
At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which is currently
trailing redhat by about 50 votes.

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Re: ld.so linking conflict

1997-11-25 Thread David Engel
On Mon, Nov 24, 1997 at 03:54:59PM -0500, Brian White wrote:
 then I get the warning:
 
 ld: warning: libdl.so.2, needed by /usr/lib/libtk8.0.so, may conflict with 
 libdl.so.1
 
 I have been unable to find where this libdl.so.1 is coming from since the
 dl libraries are:

You probably have a left over link in /lib.  Perhaps you 'forced'
something that conflicts with libdl1-dev.

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Re: bash syntax

1997-11-25 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Witold Grabysz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: the following phrase doesn't work in bash:
: ((ls);(ls))
: Why? Is it not allowed by the shell syntax or there is a bug in it?

Yup, you're right; it's probably a bug. This does work:

( (ls);(ls))

Try changing the definition of the helper in Netscape to follow the
above syntax.

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Re: ld.so linking conflict

1997-11-25 Thread Brian White
  then I get the warning:
 
  ld: warning: libdl.so.2, needed by /usr/lib/libtk8.0.so, may conflict with 
  libdl.so.1
 
  I have been unable to find where this libdl.so.1 is coming from since the
  dl libraries are:
 
 You probably have a left over link in /lib.  Perhaps you 'forced'
 something that conflicts with libdl1-dev.

Thanks.  I'll check into that.

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sunsite help

1997-11-25 Thread Paul
Hello everybody,  I have two question about the sunsite site.  first  You
get a package file called INDEX.whole. or something similar.  the second
is there a file like the contents file to tell you all of the file on the
sunsite site.
Thanks for anyother help.
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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Manos Papantoniou
but how do you vote? and where are the current results?

I went to the URL you give and it's a REAL MESS

Joey Hess wrote:
 
 At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
 distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which is currently
 trailing redhat by about 50 votes.
 
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installing samba

1997-11-25 Thread Paul
hi everybody, i'm trying to install sam but you need libpam0 and
libpam-util.  The only thing is that they depend on the other.  the big
question is how do I get around this little but very frustrating obsticle.
I am using the dpkg method of installing packages and have all the
packages on my system.  I tried to use the force option in dpkg but to no
avail.  Can somebody help me?  Plaaase!
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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Manos Papantoniou wrote:

 Joey Hess wrote:
  
  At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
  distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which is currently
  trailing redhat by about 50 votes.

 but how do you vote? and where are the current results?

 I went to the URL you give and it's a REAL MESS

Here it isn't a mess, using Netscape 4.02 or Lynx 2.7.1. When you vote
you'll automatically get the 'results' page.

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Re: installing samba

1997-11-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Paul wrote:

 hi everybody, i'm trying to install sam but you need libpam0 and
 libpam-util.  The only thing is that they depend on the other.  the big
 question is how do I get around this little but very frustrating obsticle.
 I am using the dpkg method of installing packages and have all the
 packages on my system.  I tried to use the force option in dpkg but to no
 avail.  Can somebody help me?  Plaaase!
 Paul

They need to be installed by one dpkg command, so do

dpkg -i libpam0 package limpam-util package

or

cd directory where packages are
dpkg -iGREOB .

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Re: permissions and ownership

1997-11-25 Thread David Stern
Hi,

Understanding this X permission stuff was confounded by the limited 
amount of information available in /usr/doc , man pages, regular and 
mini HOWTO's, and even my books offered virtually nil. Undeterred, I 
was compelled to find out about all this xauh, xhost, ssh stuff, so I 
set out on a 'net quest, and found the answers to my questions.

Since I can't recall seeing any similar discussion on this list, I 
thought someone else might also be X-permission knowledge-challenged, 
so I decided to post some url's I found useful in the event someone 
might benefit.  Also, the Term-HOWTO , section 12.3 was good.

How to Run Remote X Applications
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Remote-X-Apps.html

Securing X Windows (html)
http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/documents/ciac2316.html

X Security
ftp://ftp.beckman.uiuc.edu/security/xsecurity.ps

Safely Using the X Window System
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~dittrich/x/safe-x/

Ssh (Secure Shell) FAQ - Frequently asked questions
http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ig25/ssh-faq/ssh-faq.html

I still don't know why my cpu load went through the roof last night and 
all root logins froze, but I'm at least glad to think I know what I'm 
doing for a moment or two.:-)  I appreciated the responses I got.

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installation question

1997-11-25 Thread wdh
Hi,

I am intalling Debian for the first time. Is there a place during
intallation telling which disk to choose in intalll Debian? I want to
intall Debian in disk D but I am afraid of losing the old win95 data on
disk C. Before I am sure about this, I don't dare to proceed. Anyone cares
to give me a hint? Appreciate.

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cannot open /dev/cua2

1997-11-25 Thread Adalberto da Silva
Hello,

I'm trying to set my modem under Linux. I've made a few tests as root
with minicom and it's working fine for AT commands and for dialing and
transferring files with zmodem protocol.

But it reffuses to work with common users and gives me this message
when a try to run minicom:

 minicom: cannot open /dev/cua2: Permission denied

With ls -l cua* I get:

 crw-rw   1 root dialout5,  64 Jan 18  1997 cua0
 crw-rw   1 root dialout5,  65 Jan 18  1997 cua1
 crwxrw   1 root dialout5,  66 Nov 25 00:57 cua2
 crw-rw   1 root dialout5,  67 Jan 18  1997 cua3

How can I enable an user to access /dev/cua2? Is it just enable
write-read-execution for all users? Is this a secure option (ok, I'm on
a stand-alone linux box but ...)?

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Re: installation question

1997-11-25 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, wdh wrote:

 Hi,
 
 intallation telling which disk to choose in intalll Debian? I want to
 intall Debian in disk D but I am afraid of losing the old win95 data on
 disk C. Before I am sure about this, I don't dare to proceed. Anyone cares

D in linux parlance is likely to be /dev/hdb,  but check it out.  At
some point,  it'll ask you to create a linux partition or something,  at
which point you specify that you want to use your second hard disk.

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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Gary L. Dolan
On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 02:18:11AM +, Manos Papantoniou wrote:
 but how do you vote? and where are the current results?
 
 I went to the URL you give and it's a REAL MESS
 
 Joey Hess wrote:
  
  At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
  distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which is currently
  trailing redhat by about 50 votes.

I just went and voted, and it worked fine, shows debian at 118 and 
red hat at 154.
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simple questions

1997-11-25 Thread Clayton Berry
Howdy.  I'm new to linux/gnu and have a couple questions I haven't been
able to find answers to.

1) Can Debian co-exist with my windows95 environment?
2) Does Debian come with compilers for languages other than Xwindows.
(i.e. c, c++, java, and such?)

I realize these are probably simple questions, but I got tired of
surfing pages to find the answers. 

Thanks a lot!
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Re: Help needed intalling debian

1997-11-25 Thread David Welch
Dale,

thanks for your help.
   I was unable to run rawrite2 on my computer (it kept hanging) so I was using 
an 
earlier version which must not have been working correctly.  I created the 
disks with 
rawrite2 on a different computer and also used the special tecra files.  
Installation was 
a success !!

thanks again

David

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Dale Scheetz wrote:

 There are several possibilities for these errors. First make sure you have
 a top quality floppy (Check it with Norton DD or some such). Bad floppies
 is the most common cause of failure. It is also not clear exactly how you
 are using rawrite (BTW, this should be rawrite2.exe, found in the same
 directory). If you are running windows, you will want to get to the dos
 prompt for this, as windows will interfere with the write process. If you
 have '95 the problem is more complex and I will deferr to someone with
 more experience with that problem.
 In addition, many laptops have problems with the bzImage that is provided
 on the installation disk. Depending on which section of disks you
 downloaded, there should be a special subdirectory that contains a tecra
 and a v30 directory. The tecra kernel is a zImage and should work on your
 machine. I would try these resc and drv disks and see if that helps the
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Re: simple questions

1997-11-25 Thread Dana M. Epp
Hi Clay.

1) Yes, Debian can co-exist with Win95. Using something called LILO(
Linux Loader ), it can become your boot manager, which will allow you
boot multiple OS's.

2) You can get plenty of packages for Debian for compiling other
languages. Java, C, C++, Perl and shell scripting are just a few of the
many exciting languages you can code under. And god forbid.. shucky
darns.. no VB. ;-)

Best thing you could do is buy a book on Linux and dive in. Running
Linux by O'rieley and Associates seems to be a good start for many
people, as it starts with the customization and installation of Linux
right down to its use.

Personally. I would suggest breaking down and going to www.lsl.com and
buying the CD SuperPak, which contains 7 cds FULL of linux stuff. My
fav.. is the Debain 1.31 Source CD, and Binary CD.. which made my first
installs nice. It also includes RedHat, Slackware and a sunsite archive
3 cd set. And hey.. its like 10 bucks. Good luck.

Clayton Berry wrote:
 
 Howdy.  I'm new to linux/gnu and have a couple questions I haven't been
 able to find answers to.
 
 1) Can Debian co-exist with my windows95 environment?
 2) Does Debian come with compilers for languages other than Xwindows.
 (i.e. c, c++, java, and such?)
 
 I realize these are probably simple questions, but I got tired of
 surfing pages to find the answers.
 
 Thanks a lot!
 Clayton Berry
 
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3c509 Detection problem. Experienced user needs assistance.

1997-11-25 Thread Wintermute
I'm not new to Linux by any means, and I've read my eyes raw looking for
ways in which to get my 3c509b ISA PnP ethernet card to work under
Linux.

I have installed many of these same cards on our Linux boxes at work
with no problem, however this one is a doozy.

These are the ways in which I've configured it so far:

PnP enabled, driver built into the 2.0.30 kernel, reserve= and/or ether=
commands at the Lilo boot prompt.
PnP disabled, driver built into the 2.0.30 kernel, reserve= and/or
ether= commands at the Lilo boot prompt.

PnP enabled, driver built as a module for the 2.0.30 kernel, io= and/or
irq= commands at the insmod command line and in conf.modules.
PnP disabled, driver built as a module for the 2.0.30 kernel, io= and/or
irq= commands at the insmod command line and in conf.modules.

The card works under Win95 in both PnP and non-PnP modes.  The card is
configured for I/O base 0x300, and IRQ 10 (both free and clear so no
conflicts.. looking in /proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports confirms
this).  IO 0x300 and IRQ 10 are pretty standard so I don't forsee any
problems there.

Thinking that my cheap Reveal Ensoniq Soundscape ripoff may be the
culprit I yanked it from the system and tried the above methods again
with NO success.

Here's the kicker.. brace yourselves

When I have run the el3-diag and 3c5x9 diagnostic/configuration programs
under Linux (also written by Becker, the god of ethernet) they find the
card just fine AND they confirm that my settings are indeed as listed
above.  When attempting to 'insmod 3c509' (with AND without the io= and
irq= options) I get this message:

init_module: Device or resource busy.

But it can't be because NOTHING is using it

And just in case you're wondering what my setup is:

5x86 133MHZ AMD
32M Ram (SIMMs)
Cirrus Logic GD5426 SVGA
Zoom 28.8 V.34i Fax/Modem
CMD EIDE VLB Dual Port IDE controller
Maxtor 7G EIDE drive (Diamond Series)
Torisan 16x IDE/ATAPI CDROM

Some intrinsics:

3 Serial ports all registered at the appropriate places: 3f8, 2f8, 3e8
(IRQ's 4,3,4 respectively)
IDE controller using IRQ 14,15 and IO base 0x1F0
AMI BIOS REV July 1994
NO PnP BIOS
NO PCI BIOS
1 LPT port at 378 as usual.


I challenge anyone to step up and take a swing at this.  Lord knows I've
given it my absolute best shot.  The only thing I could hope for is that
someone could tell me how to hard code the 3c509 driver to force
initialization at my specified IO/IRQ settings, or convince Becker to
release manually editable 3c509.c source code.

I'm all out of answers here.  Anyone with something to try please don't
hesitate to send it my way.  Who knows, it may go a long way in helping
alot of other people with the same  problem.

One other thing:  I have been thinking that perhaps the Device or
resource busy. message might not be a result of the driver, but
something else in the kernel, or something misconfigured on the system
(the usual suspects IE: permissions, a missing dev, etc...) but I know
I'm reaching.

I am running Debian 1.3.1 Official released by LSL.  It's a stock
install with no modifications other than a standard kernel compile after
install.

Lots of luck gentlemen.



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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Joey Hess
Manos Papantoniou wrote:
 but how do you vote? and where are the current results?
 
 I went to the URL you give and it's a REAL MESS

Hm, it looks ok in lynx or netscape. I just tried it in Mosaic, and you're
right, it's an absolute mess. The voting is right on the url I gave,
http://www.slashdot.org/ . Suggest you use lynx.

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Re: pppd 2.3.1

1997-11-25 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Chuma Agbodike wrote:

 Does pppd version 2.3.1 have demand dial built into it or does one still

Does ppp 2.3.1 have documentation, or do you still have the read the
source to see what features are built in?


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Re: simple questions

1997-11-25 Thread Daniel Martin
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Clayton Berry wrote:
 1) Can Debian co-exist with my windows95 environment?
As already mentioned, yes it can; you can either set up linux to load via
lilo (a boot manager designed for loading linux, but perfectly capable of
loading Win95 as well, so that you choose at startup), or you can use
LOADLIN, which is a way of loading linux from Dos (or from Win95
rebooted into Dos mode).

 2) Does Debian come with compilers for languages other than Xwindows. 
 (i.e. c, c++, java, and such?)

First off, Xwindows is not a programming language, any more than Windows95
is a programming language.  (That is, from the programming point of view,
Xwindows is a large API, but this is different from the language per se) 
Most Xwindows programs are written in C or C++, and Debian (as do all
Linux distributions I know of) comes with an excellent C compiler (gcc) 
and a C++ compiler that is not as great, but getting there (g++).  I can't
speak for the Java tools that come directly with Debian, (kaffe and
guavac) but the Debian package of jdk1.1 (which can be ftp'ed from the
non-free part of hamm on ftp.debian.org) works just fine for what I've
been doing with it on my machine.  (little math-teaching applets) 

And let's not limit ourselves to common languages - on my Debian CD, I
find interpreters for Perl, awk, sed, Emacs Lisp, forth, scheme, intercal,
python, icon, logo, tcl, and even BASIC.  I find compilers for pascal,
scheme, fortran77, Ada, Common Lisp, icon, and mercury (or is this one an
interpreter - can't tell from the description).  Then there are a handful
of assemblers, and loads of debugging/development tools (most admittedly
geared at C/C++, but I think gdb handles pascal and Ada debugging as
well).  I'm reasonably certain that there are more compilers/interpreters
on the CD that I just missed; I know that there are more available via
ftp. 

It's a wonderful environment for programming, especially for one looking
to get a start in C - C and unix machines in general work together very
naturally.

DANIEL MARTIN

p.s.  I am tempted to now go and see how many of these languages I can
write hello, world! in...


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Re: printing in 2.1.x kernels

1997-11-25 Thread David Z. Maze

Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MT did i hear that there are problems here?  i have two dev kernels, one
MT based on 2.1.59 and one on 2.1.65 and neither seems to want to print
MT anything.  as soon as i reboot into my 2.0.29 kernel, the jobs spooled
MT start printing before the system even finishes booting.
MT 
MT do i need to change any configs?

The names of the printer devices changed from the DOS-like ones in all 
of the older kernels (/dev/lp1 == LPT1:) to device names consistent
with the rest of Linux (/dev/lp0 == LPT1:, lp1=LPT2:, lp2=LPT3:).
You need to change the name of your printer device in /etc/printcap if 
you run a 2.1 kernel (probably replace /dev/lp1 with /dev/lp0).

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Re: 3c509 Detection problem. Experienced user needs assistance.

1997-11-25 Thread Wintermute


Ben Gertzfield wrote:

 Make sure you don't have another icky Plug and Pray device assigned to
 the same IRQ / ioport -- they sneak in when you least expect it.


Got you there.  Not counting the 3c509b (which PnP is currently disabled
on), there are NO other PnP cards in my system (as I mentioned in the
system specs).



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Re: installation question

1997-11-25 Thread Rick Hawkins
  intallation telling which disk to choose in intalll Debian? I want to
  intall Debian in disk D but I am afraid of losing the old win95 data on
  disk C. Before I am sure about this, I don't dare to proceed. Anyone cares
 
 D in linux parlance is likely to be /dev/hdb,  but check it out.  At
 some point,  it'll ask you to create a linux partition or something,  at
 which point you specify that you want to use your second hard disk.

What is important is not to use /dev/hda, which is drive c:

If oth drives are on the same controller, d is /dev/hdb, while it will bee 
/dev/hdc if it is on the second controller, if you even have one.

rick



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Re: 3c509 Detection problem. Experienced user needs assistance.

1997-11-25 Thread Wintermute


A. M. Varon wrote:

 On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Wintermute wrote:

  I'm not new to Linux by any means, and I've read my eyes raw looking for
  ways in which to get my 3c509b ISA PnP ethernet card to work under
  Linux.

 hi Wintermute,

 Some tips:

 Could you try to initialize the 3c509b ISA card under DOS? Remove the PnP
 feature. And try to hard boot the computer after you set the settings, In
 my experience... a soft reboot sometimes is not effective.


Did that as instructed in other messages to mailing lists and as listed in the
directions that come with the 3c5x9cfg.exe tool under DOS. (I'm rather quick
in that respect :) )

 Try to compile a kernel where the 3c509b card is not a module, but is
 compiled in the kernel.


I already mentioned that I had in the list of things I've tried in my previous
message.

 In the 3c509b DOS setup... try to force it to use RJ-45 (if you are using
 a UTP) or coax (if you are using... well, a coax.).


There is no choice to do this in the setup utility as there is only a TPO
(RJ45) capability for the card (and the configuration program tell me so when
I attempt such a thing).

 And one more thing, type dmesg | more and see if the kernel did detect a
 3c509b PnP card.


Nope, sure doesn't, and I've rebooted my kernel enough time in the past 3 days
to force at least 2 maximal mount count checks, too.

 In my workplace, I have three linux box with a 3c509b PnP cards. All works
 perfectly.


Same here... all my Linux boxes at work (5 total) use the same card I use here
at home.  That's why I'm so frustrated as to why this won't work.  Makes me
want to look over my shoulder and see if Rod Serling is standing there

 Mail me again if it works.


Well, I'm mailing you anyways.


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Re: 3c509 Detection problem. Experienced user needs assistance.

1997-11-25 Thread A. M. Varon
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Wintermute wrote:

  And one more thing, type dmesg | more and see if the kernel did detect a
  3c509b PnP card.
 
 Nope, sure doesn't, and I've rebooted my kernel enough time in the past 3 days
 to force at least 2 maximal mount count checks, too.

Hmm linux did not detect the 3c509b card. Could you try to swap
ethernet cards with your other linux box? maybe you have some spare ones. 
Try to see if another ethernet card is working with your current setup.

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infinite loop in interrupt

1997-11-25 Thread Aaron Brick
Hello everybody

this may be more of a hardware question. i frequently see the error
message eth0: Infinite loop in interrupt, status 2011. on my terminal;
however, the network connection is fine. what should i do to make whatever
is causing that error stop reporting it?

thanks.

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directory with pkgs in 5-6 howto

1997-11-25 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
I have looked, and cant find it, but thats normal for me I think. Is there
a directory that contains only the files mentioned in the Debian libc5 to
libc6 Mini-HOWTO. For example:
ldso_1.9.6-2.deb
libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb, et cetera...

Thanks,

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Re: KDE team doesn't like Debian dist.?

1997-11-25 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
 
 On Sun, Nov 23, 1997 at 11:58:51PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 23, 1997 at 04:49:21PM -0600, Paul Serice wrote:
   I've just finished installing the right honorable Debian version of  
   KDE.  I'm impressed with how well it works and how well it is
   packaged.  
   
   The README.debian file says the KDE team is not too happy with the   
   packaging.  I'm wondering why.
  
  Maybe simple.  They prefer the /opt way.  But as it's a piece of
  software which can be fully integrated in the usual tree a set of
  /usr/bin /usr/lib, /var/lib/ c should be used.
 
 If we put everything the size of KDE into /opt, we could just
 about delete /usr now!

Indeed.  I never quite understood this strategy of putting things under
/opt.  Once I had problems on a SUN because the system couldn't handle
the length of the PATH an MANPATH variables anymore: every package gets
its own bin, lib and man directory.  We should never indulge in letting
this plague enter the debian file system structure.

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Re: X startup problems

1997-11-25 Thread dale . jones
Thanks for the help, guys.  Seems I hosed the file I created with 
xf86config during the installation.  Re-ran that, added the line below, 
and that fixed the problem.  Now if I could find a replacement for that 
ghastly login screen...

Hey, while I'm thinking about it and since I can't try it right now, 
would adding a line like

:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X

allow me to use VT08 for another login, or do I have to do something else?


On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Paul wrote:

 Hello Dale, there is a file /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers.  That file lets you had
 your xservers. you should have a line that says:
 
 :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X   
 
 This line should be the last line in this file.  If it isn't the xserver
 won't get started.  I hope this helps.  Let me know if this is a fix.
 Paul
 
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  trying for a couple of days to get it working the way I want it too, with 
  little success.  
   
  What's the deal with xdm?  My understanding was that that was the program 
  used to login under X, without having to login from a console and then 
  issue a startx command.  During installation I told the program I wanted 
  to start X with xdm; I see a message when I boot about xdm being started, 
  and then I log in to a console.  Then if I try to use startx like I'm 
  used to, I get a bunch of error messages about some missing socket thing 
  (I'm not at home right now so I can't quote the exact error), then I get 
  an error message about not finding xinit.  Anybody know what I did wrong, 
  or what I need to do?
  
  
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Re: Commands Manual

1997-11-25 Thread Gertjan Klein
Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think his needs are far more basic than that. He seems to be wanting a
  list of utility-names, as most first-time Linux users (including me) want.
  There are not many things more frustrating than thinking I know it can be
  done, but I don't know how and I don't even know with what utility, so I
  don't know what man page to look at -- if you have already discovered the
  very existance of the 'man' utility.

  I remember in my early days of Linux trying to create such a list, by
printing out a directory listing of /bin and /usr/bin, and running man
for each of the files I found there.  I made a file (by hand!) with
one-line descriptions for each program I found that way.  Imagine how I
felt when I heard about apropos!

  To get an idea of what's available, the original poster may want to
try something like:

apropos -r '*' | awk '$2 ~ (1) {print}' | less

  Gertjan.

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Adding users to groups

1997-11-25 Thread dale . jones
I'm feeling a little crippled without the Control Panel I was used to in 
my old Red Hat distribution (afraid to try setting up the printer yet!).

Couldn't find it in the FAQ's or howto's: how do I add users to 
diffferent groups, e.g. dialout?  Do shadow passwords affect the process 
at all?



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strange MS mouse behaviour: defective mouse or serial driver?

1997-11-25 Thread Francesco Potorti`
Hi,

I am experiencing a strange problem with a mouse used with gpm.
I connect a Microsoft mouse to /dev/ttyS0, then issue:

killall gpm; gpm -m /dev/ttyS0 -t bare

so far, so good: gpm displays its cursor, which moves regularly.  Then
I issue:

killall gpm; gpm -m /dev/ttyS1 -t bare
killall gpm; gpm -m /dev/ttyS0 -t bare

and the mouse stops working.  If I pull it out and connect it again,
it starts working.  This is perfectly reproducible.

An older MS mouse does not exhibit this behaviour.  That is, it does
not stop working when I change the gpm port and switch it back.  Is
the newer mouse broken?  Should I ask for a replacement or it is
normal?  And why ever?

Thanks for reading

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Re: tar, cpio, or cp?

1997-11-25 Thread Francesco Potorti`
Peter S Galbraith wrote:
   tar cf /path | ( cd other/path ; tar xvf -)
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Zander) writes:
   cd /path; find . | cpio -dump /other/path
   
Why not 
   cp -a /path /other/path

Are there real differences between the three?  What about symlinks,
hard links, empty dirs, devices?  I know, I could read the manuals,
but after a first look none of the three seems to do everything right,
that's why I am asking.

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Re: Adding users to groups

1997-11-25 Thread Olivier THARAN
On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 01:46:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Couldn't find it in the FAQ's or howto's: how do I add users to 
 diffferent groups, e.g. dialout?  Do shadow passwords affect the process 
 at all?

Just edit /etc/group and put the username you want at the end of the line
containing the group you want the name added to. eg:

floppy:*:25:

becomes:

floppy:*:25:olive

I don't think shadow passwords affect that.

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upgrade debian1.2 to 1.3

1997-11-25 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

When I want to upgrade from Debian 1.2 to 1.3 following the 
instructions in the Web page i get the following error:

dpkg -i ldso_1.8.10-2.deb
...
ldconfig:warning:can't open /usr/local/lib, skipping...

I get the same with package libc5*.deb

The system does not do the upgrade.

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Re: tar, cpio, or cp?

1997-11-25 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 10:40:10AM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote:
tar cf /path | ( cd other/path ; tar xvf -)

This one's good.

cd /path; find . | cpio -dump /other/path

This one (actually, find) won't handle filenames with newlines.
If dump would have something like xargs -0 parameter it would
be better.

echo test 'new
line'

 Why not 
cp -a /path /other/path

Won't handle devices, pipes, etc.

 but after a first look none of the three seems to do everything right,

Why isn't the tar one good?
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Re: Adding users to groups

1997-11-25 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 10:41:26AM +0100, Olivier THARAN wrote:
  Couldn't find it in the FAQ's or howto's: how do I add users to 
  diffferent groups, e.g. dialout?  Do shadow passwords affect the process 
  at all?
 Just edit /etc/group and put the username you want at the end of the line
 containing the group you want the name added to. eg:
 
 floppy:*:25:
 
 becomes:
 
 floppy:*:25:olive
 
 I don't think shadow passwords affect that.

If you edit it, do it with vigr.
Even better is using either adduser user group
or my favorite: gpasswd. You can assign administrators
to groups, etc..
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Re: X startup problems

1997-11-25 Thread Ferenc Kiraly

Hi!


 Hey, while I'm thinking about it and since I can't try it right now, 
 would adding a line like

 :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
 
 allow me to use VT08 for another login, or do I have to do something else?

Not quite what you propose, but a line like this would do the trick:

:1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X  :1


You can also ask a display to have a different color depth by doing this:

:2 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :2 -bpp 32

and so on, until you run out of memory.

feri.


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Re: tar, cpio, or cp?

1997-11-25 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Tommi Virtanen wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 10:40:10AM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote:
 
  Why not 
 cp -a /path /other/path
 
   Won't handle devices, pipes, etc.

It does here.

$ cp --version
cp (GNU fileutils) 3.16
$ 

Remco


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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Chris Waters
Gary L. Dolan wrote:
  Joey Hess wrote:
  
   At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
   distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which is 
   currently
   trailing redhat by about 50 votes.
 
 I just went and voted, and it worked fine, shows debian at 118 and
 red hat at 154.

My vote put us over the top, at least for the moment -- debian 200, 
redhat 199!  :-)


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How do people make backups on Linux?

1997-11-25 Thread Francesco Potorti`
Hi,

I am installing a system with a QIC tape.  I would like to know how do
people on this list do their backups.  I am switching from an ATT
environment where I used bru, and am very satisfied with it.  I know
it is available for Linux, too, but I was wondering if you can suggest
free alternatives.

I find taper way too unstable, and top/afio don't seem too
professional (I'd like to hear your opinions about this).  Also, are
there good experiences about using cpio or tar?

Thanks
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Re: parallel zip and scsi-kontroller conflict

1997-11-25 Thread Falk Hueffner
Joerg Plate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 a scsi-controller and a harddisk are recognized as /dev/sda.
 If I try to use the zip-drive insmod ppa fails (maybe
 because it wants to be /dev/sda, too).

I had similar problems when having the zip driver as a module. After compiling 
it into the kernel, it worked fine. Probably the driver has to find the zip
drive while booting. If you find a solution how to do it with modules, please
notify me ;-)

Falk


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Default Screen Blanking

1997-11-25 Thread Keith Holler
Does anyone know how to disable that annoying screen blanking?

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Re: parallel zip and scsi-kontroller conflict

1997-11-25 Thread Erv Walter
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Falk Hueffner) writes:

 Joerg Plate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had similar
 problems when having the zip driver as a module. After compiling it
 into the kernel, it worked fine. Probably the driver has to find the
 zip drive while booting. If you find a solution how to do it with
 modules, please notify me ;-)

I'm not sure about the scsi conflict, but I have a working solution
with the parport patch installed and lp, ppa, and parport as modules.
Everything works fine.  If the scsi problem is actually a problem with
unpatched ppa modules in general, the parport patch may be a
solution. 

Good Luck,
Erv

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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Manos Papantoniou
apologies, I had white letters in white background, please don't throw
any stones :-))) I just voted for Debian, we are ahead with 239, red hat
219

Manos

Gary L. Dolan wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 02:18:11AM +, Manos Papantoniou wrote:
  but how do you vote? and where are the current results?
 
  I went to the URL you give and it's a REAL MESS
 
  Joey Hess wrote:
  
   At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
   distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which is 
   currently
   trailing redhat by about 50 votes.
 
 I just went and voted, and it worked fine, shows debian at 118 and
 red hat at 154.
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Re: Default Screen Blanking

1997-11-25 Thread Carlos Barros
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Keith Holler wrote:

 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 06:33:00 -0700 (MST)
 From: Keith Holler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Default Screen Blanking
 
 Does anyone know how to disable that annoying screen blanking?

setterm -blank 0


Bye
Carlos Barros.


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sound interference

1997-11-25 Thread Brian K Servis

The sound card(SB16) on my Debian box picks up electronic interference
when I use the line-in as source(external radio).  It sounds like I a
helicopter, whop, whop, whop, whop and it fades in and out. It only
happens under Debian, when I am booted in Win95 it doesn't happen.

Setup:
Debian 1.3.1
kernel 2.0.30
real SB16 with speakers on line-out and portable radio on line-in

Any suggestions?  Why would it make a difference between the OS's?
My only thought is the sound driver but I don't know.

Thanks,
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Re: Adding users to groups

1997-11-25 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Olivier THARAN wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 01:46:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Couldn't find it in the FAQ's or howto's: how do I add users to 
  diffferent groups, e.g. dialout?  Do shadow passwords affect the process 
  at all?
 
 Just edit /etc/group and put the username you want at the end of the line
 containing the group you want the name added to. eg:
 
 floppy:*:25:
 
 becomes:
 
 floppy:*:25:olive
 

You can also do this with adduser.

Bob


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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Kevin Traas
I just voted for Debian, we are ahead with 239, red hat 219

What I find most interesting is the number of people using either RedHat or
Debian vs. all others  (Of course, maybe Slackware users don't know
about the survey)

I clipped the following from the results page and added percentages

Caldera  9  2%
Debian  245  42%
RedHat  223  38%
Slackware  93  16%
Other  9  2%
Total number of votes 579

Later,
Kevin Traas


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Re: parallel zip and scsi-kontroller conflict

1997-11-25 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 01:57:41PM +0100, Falk Hueffner wrote:
 Joerg Plate [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  a scsi-controller and a harddisk are recognized as /dev/sda.
  If I try to use the zip-drive insmod ppa fails (maybe
  because it wants to be /dev/sda, too).
 
 I had similar problems when having the zip driver as a module. After 
 compiling 
 it into the kernel, it worked fine. Probably the driver has to find the zip
 drive while booting. If you find a solution how to do it with modules, please
 notify me ;-)

I think you might need to find you need to load the higher level modules,
like scsi_mod and finally sr_mod for SCSI disks/CDROM, AFTER you
load the hardware drivers, like ppa for the Zip and your regular
scsi driver. So if your modules contains

ppa
aha152x (or whatever you use)
scsi_mod
sr_mod

Then things might work better. It doesn't matter if there is a disk
in the Zip drive or not, it will sort itself out when you mount one.

That said, I've never tried it.


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Re: Compaq Mouse vs PPP vs hostname

1997-11-25 Thread W Paul Mills
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Rob Lindenbusch wrote:

 Hogland, Thomas E. wrote:
  
  Here's a question I haven't been able to find anyplace: I have Debian
  installed on a Compaq Prolinea MT, and the mouse is on a built-in port.
  GPM detects and installs this as ttyS0, coincidentally locking out the
  modem on com1/irq4/ttyS0...I tried to uninstall gpm, but it refuses to
  uninstall with dpkg, then after dpkg fails it re-starts gpm!
  
 
 I jst went through a similar problem with my Micron PC:
 
 1) You don't have to re-install gpm, you can use ... a command whose
 name I don't remember (something like gpmconfig - see /etc/gpm.conf - it
 is mentioned there)
 
 2) You want to tell it that the mouse is on /dev/mouse, and (in my case)
  ^^
This only works if /dev/mouse is a link to /dev/psmouse or /dev/psaux.
See my config file. ( I use gpm in repeater mode so it can stay loaded
when I run X-windows.

#  /etc/gpm.conf - configuration file for gpm(1)
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#  Mostly self-explanatory.  If you mouse seems to be to slow, try
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#  to the commandline.
#
device=/dev/psmouse
responsiveness=
type=ps2
append=-R



 also tell it that it is a ps2 style mouse (This is even the case if
 you have a m$ mouse - don't be fooled. It seems to want a ps2 mouse if
 it is on a mouse port, no matter what)
 
 3) restart gpm, and run mev to test your mouse.
 
 
 Hope this helps :)
 
 
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Re: directory with pkgs in 5-6 howto

1997-11-25 Thread Scott Ellis
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:

 I have looked, and cant find it, but thats normal for me I think. Is there
 a directory that contains only the files mentioned in the Debian libc5 to
 libc6 Mini-HOWTO. For example:
   ldso_1.9.6-2.deb
   libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb, et cetera...

Unfortunatly not, they are scattered across several directories in the
hamm (dists/unstable) section of your local Debian mirror.  The next
version of the howto should list the section of each package as well (as
soon as I find time to finish with it).

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Re: upgrade debian1.2 to 1.3

1997-11-25 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Marc Fleureck wrote:

 Hi,
 
 When I want to upgrade from Debian 1.2 to 1.3 following the 
 instructions in the Web page i get the following error:
 
 dpkg -i ldso_1.8.10-2.deb
 ...
 ldconfig:warning:can't open /usr/local/lib, skipping...
 
 I get the same with package libc5*.deb
 
 The system does not do the upgrade.
 
These packages should install ok dispite the warning, however you may get
rid of the warning by simply creating /usr/local/lib on your system.

Luck,

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Re: directory with pkgs in 5-6 howto

1997-11-25 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:

 I have looked, and cant find it, but thats normal for me I think. Is there
 a directory that contains only the files mentioned in the Debian libc5 to
 libc6 Mini-HOWTO. For example:
   ldso_1.9.6-2.deb
   libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb, et cetera...
 
When looking for the location of packages (or the package that contains a
particular program) the most useful method that I have found is to search
the Contents file. This file is usually in the directory that contains the
binary-i386 tree. Download the file, then search inside the file for the
package or program you are looking for. The line containing the package
also indicates the section you will find it in. The line containing a
program also contains the package that provides that program.

Luck,

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hostname problem

1997-11-25 Thread E Papantoniou
Hi all, 

I am having the following problem with the hostname: 

when I login as a normal user I get the message: 

hostname: you must be root to change the host name 

I suspect that I might have messed up with files or permissions without 
realising it, but I don't know 
where to start looking...any ideas? 

thanks in advance 

Manos 


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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman
On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Gary L. Dolan wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 02:18:11AM +, Manos Papantoniou wrote:
  but how do you vote? and where are the current results?
  
  I went to the URL you give and it's a REAL MESS
  
  Joey Hess wrote:
   
   At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
   distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which is 
   currently
   trailing redhat by about 50 votes.
 
 I just went and voted, and it worked fine, shows debian at 118 and 
 red hat at 154.


Just voted myself..
Debian is at 267
Redhat is at 233


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Annoying boot-up messages

1997-11-25 Thread Pann McCuaig
This started happening weeks ago when I upgraded from rex to bo. It seems
to have no real effect other than the annoying boot-up messages.

The other day I built a custom kernel and updated all my installed packages
from ftp.debian.org, and it didn't magically go away, so I guess it's time
to ask: What's going on and how do I fix it?

---  schnipp!  
Parallelizing fsck version 1.10 (24-Apr-97)
/dev/hdb5: clean, 11296/44176 files, 116691/176035 blocks
Loading modules: sonycd535 modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory
Sony CDU-535: probing base address 340
Sony CDU-535 I/F CDROM : SONY CDROM CDU-531-01 1.0b  base address 340, 
using 65536 byte buffer
hpfs modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory
lp modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory
lp1 at 0x0378, (polling)
serial modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
bsd_comp modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory
modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory
---  schnapp!  

What I'm concerned about, of course, are the lines like this:

modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory

Can anyone help? Thanks.

Cheers,
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Re: hostname problem

1997-11-25 Thread Will Lowe
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, E Papantoniou wrote:

 when I login as a normal user I get the message: 
 
 hostname: you must be root to change the host name 
 
 I suspect that I might have messed up with files or permissions without 
 realising it, but I don't know 
 where to start looking...any ideas? 

Check bash_profile for references to hostname.
Will


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Upgrade Debian 1.2 to 1.3

1997-11-25 Thread Marc Fleureck
Hi,

Recently I reported a problem about upgrading to 1.3 using some 
dpkg-commands, which caused an error style can't open 
/usr/local/lib. This problem was solved by simply creating the dir.

But the system has not done any upgrade. Even after running lilo (and 
rebooting of course).
The file /etc/debian_version still says 1.2. 

Also, the last command of the upgrade dpkg --purge --force-depends 
texbin gives an error style ignoring request to remove texbin because texbin 
isn't installed.

Regards,
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Re: Applying patches to linux 2.0.30

1997-11-25 Thread David Natkins
How do you apply patches to the kernel ? I tried it and got 
rejections.  I'm trying to bring my kernel up to 2.0.32.  I have the 
debian linux source for 2.0.30 installed (I believe it is level 9).

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Re: Quitting pppd

1997-11-25 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
/usr/bin/poff

Bob

On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:16:46 -0900  me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 After starting/quitting minicom, and then finishing internet connection,
 what is the best way to kill pppd without doing a 'kill ' (or the pid
 of pppd?  I haven't found that answer anywhere, and I have tried looking.
 If I missed a simple statement somewhere, my apologies ;)
 Mike
 


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Re: Commands Manual

1997-11-25 Thread Lorens Kockum
On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 09:40:30AM +0100, Gertjan Klein wrote:

 I made a file (by hand!) with one-line descriptions for each program I
 found that way. Imagine how I felt when I heard about apropos!

Tss ... apropos is actually just the -k option to  the  man(1)  command,
so by looking at the man page for man, you'd have found it :-) (Actually, I
had forgotten the existence of apropos, I don't tell my students about it, I
tell them about man -k)

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Re: Default Screen Blanking

1997-11-25 Thread Udjat the BitMeister...


setterm -blank 0


On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Keith Holler wrote:

 Does anyone know how to disable that annoying screen blanking?
 
 Keith

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Re: How do people make backups on Linux?

1997-11-25 Thread Francesco Potorti`
people on this list do their backups.  I am switching from an ATT
environment where I used bru, and am very satisfied with it.  I know
it is available for Linux, too, but I was wondering if you can suggest
free alternatives.
   
   dump  restore

I considered dump, but it does not compress, so I won't use it.  I am
thinking about improving tob to verify tapes.  I'd also love to hear
more comments on this topic, and people's experience.


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Re: tar, cpio, or cp?

1997-11-25 Thread Frere Roy
tar cf /path | ( cd other/path ; tar xvf -)
cp -a /path /other/path

 Are there real differences between the three?  What about symlinks,
 hard links, empty dirs, devices?  I know, I could read the manuals,

Your question prompted me to think about the way I make backups of my 
Debian system to tape.

I use:  tar cvf /dev/st0 . 

Could someone on the list please tell me if I can restore my complete 
working system from the archive made in this fashion - or suggest a 
better way !

Thanks, Frere Roy

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MSDOS files...what to do...

1997-11-25 Thread Andrew Akins
I have copied some MSDOS text files (documents, java source files) to my
Linux box. So, of course, they all have ^M at the end of each line. At
our SCO box at work, we have a dos2unix command that would fix
these...does Linux have a similar tool, and what package is it in?

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Thanks...

1997-11-25 Thread Andrew Akins
I would just like to offer thanks to everyone that has helped me over
the last week in setting up my Linux box. I'm new to the Unix world, and
so I had many questions that I'm sure were simple or easy. On
another mailing list, I might have gotten nasty emails about RTFM or
read the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@% FAQ or what are you, stupid? (no joke...I've 
gotten
these before). But not here. Everyone who has responded to my questions
has been polite and helpful.

My Laptop is now running completely the way I want it to, nice and
stable with X, StarOffice, Java 1.1.3, Postgres and Netscape 4.03. And
it all works better and faster than my old Windows95 box. It appears at
lot of what I was hearing on the grapevine about Linux is true :)

Again, my thanks...

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PPP Dialup

1997-11-25 Thread Andrew Akins
I was wondering what people use for handling their PPP dialups. I've
been using simple pppd, which works well. But, it has no feedback - I
have to simply wait, and run ps to see if it makes the connection. What
tools or programs (if any) would provide more information/feedback? I'm
running X, so an x-based tool or program would be cool...

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Re: ATAPI NEC CDROM Changer

1997-11-25 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski

Timothy Phan wrote:
I do not quite know how the ATAPI CDROM work.  I've alread
gotten all the base install.  Now, I need to do the dselect
and mount the cdrom.  However, it seems that the CDROM is
not recognizable the the system.  I did  a manual mount:
  $ mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/hdb1 /cdrom
and it gives me some error:
  

---
  isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 04:41 iso_blknum 16 block 32
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1
or too many mounted file system.

---

Instead of:

$ mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/hdb1 /cdrom

use:

$ mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/hdb /cdrom

because there is no partition table on CD.

NEC CD Changer is for Linux like normal CD - only one slot at time is
seen. When you want to change visible slot use setcd program (it should
be in Debian distribution) or compile program from kernel sources (look at
file /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cdrom/ide-cd).

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uninstall GMT

1997-11-25 Thread Marco Secli' CELINT
25/11/97

Hello, My name is Marco Secli' (CELINT S.R.L.)
I'm in trouble with GMT time and I'd like to remove it without repeating all
the installation of DEBIAN linux.

Waiting your kind answer.
Thank you

Marco Secli' (CELINT S.R.L.)
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Rebuilding the kernel

1997-11-25 Thread Andrew Akins
Now that everything is working right, I was toying with the idea of
screwing it all up :)

Basically, I'm considering rebuilding the kernel to add in some things
I'm missing (sound) and removing some things that I don't need (SCSI
support, for one).

I've read all the howtos and got all the files, so I'm pretty sure I
have a good idea of how to do it (but I'm open to suggestions, if anyone
has them).

My problem is this - my *$#$ laptop manual doesn't say what the
settings of my ESS688 sound chip are (IRQ, Mem base, etc). And I no
longer have any other OS on my machine (I dived into Linux head
first...), so I have no easy way of running a program to find out. The
menuconfig script is asking me for these settings (obviously)...if I
provide the wrong numbers, will the machine boot (without sound), or
will it completely crash? And if I supply the wrong numbers, will I have
to recompile the kernel again, or are their config files that can be
changed?

Any insight would be helpful. Thanks.

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Re : I need help with my Gravis Ultrasound

1997-11-25 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski
 Hi!
 
 I have trouble configuring the MPU-401 MIDI interface under Linux;
 my sound card is a Gravis Ultrasound Extreme, which is just like GUS MAX,
 mostly. I cannot also initialize it under Linux, so I have first to boot
 with MS-D*S :-( and execute the init programs.
 
 Has anybody any experience with this card? The documentation
 included (.PDF) is for Windows users, and doesn't explain these matters.
 I really need your help.


Look at page:

http://home.pf.jcu.cz/~perex/ultra/

It has really great Linux GUS Driver and all documentation fo Linux.

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multiple X sessions

1997-11-25 Thread E Papantoniou
Hi,

when I am logged in as a user and I run X windows, I press Ctrl-Alt-F2
and as expected a new terminal comes up. Then I log in as a different user
and I type startx. I get some errors:

Fatal server error
Server is already active for display 0
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again

Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server
xinit: no such process (errno 3): Server error

does anybody know how to correct this?


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multiple X sessions (continued)

1997-11-25 Thread E Papantoniou
to add to my previous msg:

when I try to get back to the first X session with Ctrl-Alt-F1 I get another
error msg:

AUDIT: X: client 11 rejected from local host Auth name MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 ID: -1

any ideas what does this mean?

thanks in advance

Manos


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Re: PPP Dialup

1997-11-25 Thread Will Lowe
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote:

 I was wondering what people use for handling their PPP dialups. I've
 been using simple pppd, which works well. But, it has no feedback - I
 have to simply wait, and run ps to see if it makes the connection. What
 tools or programs (if any) would provide more information/feedback? I'm
 running X, so an x-based tool or program would be cool...

Try diald,  the auto-ppp-dialer.  It sets up a proxy thingie so that
whenever you try to use a net-needing app (eg. telnet,  ftp, netscape)
your ppp line gets dialed.  Works great,  very customizeable,  available
as a debian package,  etc...

Will


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Re: pppd 2.3.1

1997-11-25 Thread john
Jon Lewis writes:
 Does ppp 2.3.1 have documentation, or do you still have the read the
 source to see what features are built in?

The man page appears to be up to date.
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Re: multiple X sessions

1997-11-25 Thread Ettore Aldrovandi
E Papantoniou wrote:
- 
- Hi,
- 
- when I am logged in as a user and I run X windows, I press Ctrl-Alt-F2
- and as expected a new terminal comes up. Then I log in as a different user
- and I type startx. I get some errors:
- 

Hi, you have to open another display. Try this:

startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1

Besides, you can also login as yourself, and maybe to use a
different color depth, like

starx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 -bpp 16

Have fun

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Re: MSDOS files...what to do...

1997-11-25 Thread Will Lowe
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote:

 I have copied some MSDOS text files (documents, java source files) to my
 Linux box. So, of course, they all have ^M at the end of each line. At
 our SCO box at work, we have a dos2unix command that would fix
 these...does Linux have a similar tool, and what package is it in?

Next time use mtools and mcopy,  ought to work ok.

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Re: PPP Dialup

1997-11-25 Thread dale . jones
I just gave up on trying to configure diald; thought it would make things 
easier but don't have enough time to mess with it.  Started using pon and 
poff instead.  To see when the connection has been established, use 
ifconfig.  If you see a line starting with ppp0 (I'm guessing you are 
just using one dial-up connection), you're ready to go.

I don't know if there are any X tools, but I imagine I'll be writing a 
simple Tcl script for my wife very soon...



On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Andrew Akins wrote:

 I was wondering what people use for handling their PPP dialups. I've
 been using simple pppd, which works well. But, it has no feedback - I
 have to simply wait, and run ps to see if it makes the connection. What
 tools or programs (if any) would provide more information/feedback? I'm
 running X, so an x-based tool or program would be cool...
 
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Re: How do people make backups on Linux?

1997-11-25 Thread Steve Kostecke
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[snip]
 I considered dump, but it does not compress, so I won't use it.  I am
[snip]

If your backups are critical you might not want to compress them at all.
Or, at least, be careful how the compression is performed.  Compression
before archiving (gzip then tar) is more forgiving of media errors than
compression after archiving (tar then gzip).  In the latter case you
will lose more data if the archive/tape is corrupt.

IMHO: Get a bigger tape.
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RE: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread Hogland, Thomas E.
Looks like a well-done site to me! I like the torn-page edges...

Excerpt follows :-)

 Your Vote has Been Registered. 

   Caldera  11 
Debian  303 
   RedHat   259 
 Slackware  108 
 Other  9 

   Total number of votes 690




 On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Gary L. Dolan wrote:
 
  On Tue, Nov 25, 1997 at 02:18:11AM +, Manos Papantoniou wrote:
   but how do you vote? and where are the current results?
   
   I went to the URL you give and it's a REAL MESS
   
   Joey Hess wrote:

At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which
 is currently
trailing redhat by about 50 votes.
  
  I just went and voted, and it worked fine, shows debian at 118 and 
  red hat at 154.
 
 
 Just voted myself..
 Debian is at 267
 Redhat is at 233
 
 
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Re: PPP Dialup

1997-11-25 Thread Kevin Traas
I was wondering what people use for handling their PPP dialups. I've


You might want to look into DialD (Dial-on-Demand).  This package
automatically makes and breaks connections to the Internet as needed.  You
just start up NetScape, etc. and the modem dials...  After an inactivity
timeout, DialD drops the link (to save you money... grin...).  It's really
slick and many people use it.

As for an X config for PPP, I've never used it (I'm shell-prompt driven...),
but you're probably looking for XISP.

Both XISP and DialD are Debian packages

Good Luck!
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RE: multiple X sessions

1997-11-25 Thread Ted Harding
On 25-Nov-97 E Papantoniou wrote:
 Hi,
 
 when I am logged in as a user and I run X windows, I press Ctrl-Alt-F2
 and as expected a new terminal comes up. Then I log in as a different user
 and I type startx. I get some errors:
 
 Fatal server error
 Server is already active for display 0
 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again
 
 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
 Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
 giving up
 xinit: unable to connect to X server
 xinit: no such process (errno 3): Server error
 
 does anybody know how to correct this?

You don't correct it: it is correct already. You cannot run 2 X sessions on the
same display (:0.0 in your case).**

If you need to, you can start an independent X session on a different display
(say :1.0; if your first was on VT7 then the next will be on VT8), but probably
you only need to get xterm windows owned by a different user opened on the X
display you already have.

To do this, all you need to do is, say, Ctrl-Alt-F2, login as the new user,
and then, from this terminal, do xterm [options] -display :0.0 .

Then (Alt-F7) switch back to the X display and you will have a new xterm owned
as a logged-in window by the user newly logged in on VT2. From this xterm, the
new user can start up any applications all of which will be owned by him. (This
user may then log out from VT2, provided the  was used).

In this way, any number of users can have their own user-owned windows on a
single X display, just as if each user had started up X -- with the difference
that the X background, or root window, and the window manager, will be owned
by the user who originally started X, so that all applications started up by
clicking on root-window menus or on button-bars will again be owned by the
original user.

If you don't want that, and you do need to start an independent X session on
display :1.0, then do something like

startx -- :1 [other server options e.g. -bpp 16] 

and you will then have 2 X displays, and you switch between them with
Ctrl-Alt-F7, Ctrl-Alt-F8

However, the switch is always cumbersome and the previous approach is usually
preferable, provided it is sufficient.

Hope this helps.
Ted.

** Actually, while this is a correct statement, you CAN run startx  as a new
user provided your xinitrc and wmrc are set up in a certain way: the attempt to
start a new X session will fail, for the reason given, likewise for the WM, but
you can persuade the applications which the WM would have started up to be
started up on behalf of the new user, and they will overlay the old ones; but
this is a perverse way to achieve the multi-user in one X result,


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Re: X startup problems

1997-11-25 Thread Bob Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks for the help, guys.  Seems I hosed the file I created with
 xf86config during the installation.  Re-ran that, added the line below,
 and that fixed the problem.  Now if I could find a replacement for that
 ghastly login screen...

You can design your own login screens with the xbanner
package.  I don't particulary like the default screen that
comes with the Debian package but you can tweak xbanner to
produce a screen to suit yourself.

 
 Hey, while I'm thinking about it and since I can't try it right now,
 would adding a line like
 
 :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X
 
 allow me to use VT08 for another login, or do I have to do something else?
 
I had trouble getting that idea to work consistently but
here's a solution I'e found.  I use xdm for my initial login
and then with these lines added to the end of
~/.bash_profile to accomodate logins from VC's.  The first
gets VT08, the next VT09, etc.

if [ `tty` = /dev/console -a $TERM = sun -o $TERM =
linux ]; then
  VC=1
  while [ -f /tmp/.X${VC}-lock ]
  do
VC=`expr $VC + 1`
  done
  Display=`expr $VC + 7`
  export DISPLAY=:$VC
  echo Starting X on VC $Display (type Ctrl-C to
interrupt)
  sleep 5
  if [ $? = 0 ]; then
  #startx -- :${VC} -bpp 16  /dev/null 21
  startx -- :${VC} -bpp 8  /dev/null 21
  clear
  echo -n Automatically logging out (type Ctrl-C to
interrupt)
  sleep 5
  clear
  logout  # logout after leaving windows system
  fi
  clear
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Re: Rebuilding the kernel

1997-11-25 Thread Kevin Traas
Basically, I'm considering rebuilding the kernel to add in some things
I'm missing (sound) and removing some things that I don't need (SCSI
support, for one).


Good call !

I've read all the howtos and got all the files, so I'm pretty sure I
have a good idea of how to do it (but I'm open to suggestions, if anyone
has them).

Ahhh... Someone who RTFM's... grin

Basically, you wanna run:
cd /usr/src/linux
make mrproper   (the first time after you install a new kernel version)
make menuconfig
make dep ; make clean
make zImage
make modules
make modules_install
cp arch/i386/boot/zImage /boot

Then, edit /etc/modules and remove/add modules as required based on your
choices in building the new kernel.

From here, you've got to update your /etc/lilo.conf file...  I suggest
keeping your existing kernel in place and setting up to boot your new one as
an alternate.  (At least, first time around)

Here's how to do this... (I'm sure others will criticize/comment -
everyone's got their own way of doing this...)

cd /boot
mv zImage current
cd /etc
ae lilo.conf
   (change delay to delay=50 and add the following two lines...)
   image=/boot/current
   label=Current
lilo
   (this should respond with...)
   Added Linux *
   Added Current
   (if you get errors, then there's a problem with lilo.conf... try again,
or let me know.)

Now, you can reboot.  When you see LILO on the screen just after POST, hit
LEFT-SHIFT and type in current (no quotes, of course).  (You can also hit
TAB to get a list of available boot options)

Note the * above?  That's the kernel image that will boot by default

My problem is this - my *$#$ laptop manual doesn't say what the
settings of my ESS688 sound chip are (IRQ, Mem base, etc). And I no
longer have any other OS on my machine (I dived into Linux head
first...), so I have no easy way of running a program to find out. The
menuconfig script is asking me for these settings (obviously)...if I
provide the wrong numbers, will the machine boot (without sound), or
will it completely crash? And if I supply the wrong numbers, will I have
to recompile the kernel again, or are their config files that can be
changed?


No problem here... If you select wrong settings and they get compiled in,
you'll just end up with no sound At worst, it might not boot, but that's
why your new kernel is setup as an alternate - it's easy to reboot and go
back to the main (original) kernel, and try again

Best of luck!  Let me know if you need any further help/have any further
questions.

Regards,
Kevin


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Re: Commands Manual

1997-11-25 Thread Bob Clark
Gertjan Klein wrote:
 
 Remco Blaakmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I think his needs are far more basic than that. He seems to be wanting a
   list of utility-names, as most first-time Linux users (including me) want.
   There are not many things more frustrating than thinking I know it can be
   done, but I don't know how and I don't even know with what utility, so I
   don't know what man page to look at -- if you have already discovered the
   very existance of the 'man' utility.
 
   I remember in my early days of Linux trying to create such a list, by
 printing out a directory listing of /bin and /usr/bin, and running man
 for each of the files I found there.  I made a file (by hand!) with
 one-line descriptions for each program I found that way.  Imagine how I
 felt when I heard about apropos!
 
   To get an idea of what's available, the original poster may want to
 try something like:
 
 apropos -r '*' | awk '$2 ~ (1) {print}' | less
 
   Gertjan.
 
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Re: MSDOS files...what to do...

1997-11-25 Thread Brian K Servis
Andrew Akins writes:

I have copied some MSDOS text files (documents, java source files) to my
Linux box. So, of course, they all have ^M at the end of each line. At
our SCO box at work, we have a dos2unix command that would fix
these...does Linux have a similar tool, and what package is it in?


dos2unix is in the sysutils package.

A suggestion, download a copy of the .../stable/Contents-i386 file
from your favorite Debian mirror.  It lists every file and its
package.  Then just grep it for your file in question, I use it all
the time.

#grep dos2unix Contents-i386
usr/bin/dos2unix utils/sysutils
usr/man/man1/dos2unix.1  utils/sysutils

Good luck,
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Re: slashdot.org linux distribution poll - vote for debian

1997-11-25 Thread richard
 At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
 distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which
 is currently trailing redhat by about 50 votes.

Has anyone advertized this on whatever Redhat (and the other
distributions) have as user lists?  While it might be nice to achieve
a bigger number than the other guys, it would seem rather pointless to
do so by biasing the sample.

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Re: MSDOS files...what to do...

1997-11-25 Thread Alex Yukhimets
  I have copied some MSDOS text files (documents, java source files) to my
  Linux box. So, of course, they all have ^M at the end of each line. At
  our SCO box at work, we have a dos2unix command that would fix
  these...does Linux have a similar tool, and what package is it in?

Hi.

Debian does have dos2unix in some package. You would have to search 
Contents file on ftp site to find which one. Meanwhile I can show
you the way I do this:  tr -d '\015'  dosfile unixfile

Alex Y.

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Found interesting diald info

1997-11-25 Thread Brian M. Rectanus
For those of you with dynamic ip's, problems with windows machines (random
dialing) and other problems related to diald, check out this link:

(english)
http://personales.mundivia.es/personales/luca/diald-win-e.html
(spanish)
http://personales.mundivia.es/personales/luca/diald-win-s.html

-Brian

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