Re: Frequent kernel crashes on old non-ACPI hardware with 2.6.16+
Thanks for the help. I haven't posted since Thursday because, well, it hasn't crashed! After five crashes by noon Wednesday, I was out most of Thursday, treated it with kid gloves Friday and Monday (minimal interaction, did 99% of my work on the laptop), ramped up a bit yesterday, and today have been using it nonstop. I'm using testing, but can't think of anything which has changed since last Wednesday which would make such a difference... On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 10:11:14PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 05) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) A friend of mine had lots of trouble with a similar videocard. Do you have a spare to exchange? Thanks, if it happens again I'll try replacing with another Voodoo3. But it seems odd that this would fix it, esp as the problem happens even in console mode, and does not happen under 2.6.8... Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs You could try passing 'noapic' and 'nolapic' to the kernel Okay, tried noapic, but that didn't change any of the APIC messages in dmesg. I have it set to nolapic for when (if?) it next fails. Then again, it hasn't crashed since trying it. :-) Maybe I should try removing it, and see if I get crashing again... If I learn more I'll post again. Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.18-1-686 ro root=301 acpi=off pci=norouteirq PCI: Unknown option `norouteirq' 'pci=norouteirq' seems to be wrong. Right, removed it. Thanks. Thanks so much. This is a great machine, still quite snappy with GNOME, OOo etc., and it would have been a shame to have to let it go. Regards, -Adam -- GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://www.take6.com/albums/greatesthits.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Frequent kernel crashes on old non-ACPI hardware with 2.6.16+
Hello, Can you provide more information on your hardware? Output from a plain: lspci would be a start, as would the dmesg output. Okay, attaching those two. On my 1998 era PII machine with BIOStar M6TLC motherboard (Intel 440LX chipset), dmesg reports ACPI disabled in BIOS. I also purged acpid, but have installed apmd. Running Sid here. I just installed apmd, will see if that helps. I am using a PCI USB 2.0 card and a PCI Ethernet card with PCI mouse plugged in. The BIOS supports a USB keyboard, but I have not tried using a USB keyboard. Arthur. No USB keyboards here, just a USB printer, but leaving that out doesn't seem to help. Thanks, -Adam -- GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://www.take6.com/albums/greatesthits.html 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 05) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) Linux version 2.6.18-1-686 (Debian 2.6.18-1) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060901 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-13)) #1 SMP Sun Sep 24 13:48:23 UTC 2006 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 000a (usable) BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 3fff (usable) BIOS-e820: 3fff - 3fff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 3fff3000 - 4000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: - 0001 (reserved) 127MB HIGHMEM available. 896MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000f5ae0 On node 0 totalpages: 262128 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0 Normal zone: 225280 pages, LIFO batch:31 HighMem zone: 32752 pages, LIFO batch:7 DMI 2.1 present. Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.1 Virtual Wire compatibility mode. OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0 Processor #0 6:7 APIC version 17 Processor #1 6:7 APIC version 17 I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0. Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Processors: 2 Allocating PCI resources starting at 5000 (gap: 4000:bec0) Detected 448.820 MHz processor. Built 1 zonelists. Total pages: 262128 Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.18-1-686 ro root=301 acpi=off pci=norouteirq PCI: Unknown option `norouteirq' mapped APIC to d000 (fee0) mapped IOAPIC to c000 (fec0) Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes) Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Memory: 1031896k/1048512k available (1534k kernel code, 16048k reserved, 575k data, 196k init, 131008k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 898.56 BogoMIPS (lpj=1797136) Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Disabled at boot. Capability LSM initialized Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0387fbff CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0387fbff CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU serial number disabled. CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff 0040 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Compat vDSO mapped to e000. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. SMP alternatives: switching to UP code CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Katmai) stepping 02 SMP alternatives: switching to SMP code Booting processor 1/1 eip 3000 Initializing CPU#1 Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 897.70 BogoMIPS (lpj=1795411) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0387fbff CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0387fbff CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 512K CPU serial number disabled. CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff 0040 Intel
Frequent kernel crashes on old non-ACPI hardware with 2.6.16+
Greetings, I have a seven-year old dual 450 MHz PIII machine which I upgraded from sarge to etch about a month ago. Running 2.6.16, 2.6.17 and 2.6.18 stock kernels, I have had frequent lockups, on the order of two to four per day before I go back to 2.6.8, but five just this morning between 9:30 AM and noon. I dare say this is even worse than Windows 95... With no keyboard interaction, the machine is very stable, it stays up for days. I have rsynced multi-gibibyte trees to and from it repeatedly with no problem. But with normal interaction at the keyboard, the machine hangs within 10-60 minutes. It has hung both in X and at the console, it stops echoing pings, and at the console it does not print any oops or other messages though the cursor keeps blinking. Other unrelated issues: What is frustrating is that with the new udev and a pre-2.6.15 kernel, not only are USB devices unusable, but evolution often hangs while retrieving messages, and after such a hang refuses to start again. I don't think this is an evolution bug, I think it is waiting in vain for something from dbus or hal perhaps. If acpid is installed, the GNOME panel won't fully start under 2.6.16+: at least one applet seem to hang the whole panel, though it works under 2.6.8. I purged acpid a long time ago, and this behavior stopped. I could also get it to stop with acpid installed by booting with pci=norouteirq. Also, unless I boot with acpi=off, the network is completely unreachable. This is bug #387025, but as mentioned, unrelated to these hangs. I think the common thread here is ACPI, or rather, lack of ACPI in this machine. Are others without ACPI support having similar troubles? Thanks for any help you can provide. Cheers, -Adam -- GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://www.take6.com/albums/greatesthits.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'Applications - Preferences - Font' not working.
On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 05:34, Adam Bogacki wrote: Hm... 'libmetacity' does not seem to exist on my system. Tux:~# apt-get remove metacity Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package metacity is not installed, so not removed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. .. Tux:~# cd / Tux:/# find -name libmetacity-private.so.0 -print find: ./proc/3746/task: No such file or directory find: ./proc/4633/task: No such file or directory Tux:/# Sounds like a missing dependency to me. Please file a bug report against the gnome-control-center package indicating that it needs to depend on libmetacity0. Incidentally, I notice that neither 2.4.0-9 nor 2.6.1-1 has this dependency... Cheers, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mounting NFS from an initrd
Greetings, I'm trying to make an initrd script which allows mounting root NFS with a stock Debian kernel-image package, in the spirit of Russel Coker's http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/debian-devel-200109/msg00307.html So I stuck a script in /etc/mkinitrd/scripts/nfs , and when I installed a kernel on woody, the client mounted root just fine. Now with sarge, it's failing with: mount: RPC: Program not registered So I searched around, and found that I need to be running portmap. So I put portmap in the initrd, along with rpc.statd for good measure. And even with /proc mounted, with portmap and rpc.statd running, mount still gives me this error. What gives? Any ideas on how to get it registered? Thanks, -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting NFS from an initrd
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 18:54, Adam C Powell IV wrote: Greetings, I'm trying to make an initrd script which allows mounting root NFS with a stock Debian kernel-image package, in the spirit of Russel Coker's http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/debian-devel-200109/msg00307.html So I stuck a script in /etc/mkinitrd/scripts/nfs , and when I installed a kernel on woody, the client mounted root just fine. Now with sarge, it's failing with: mount: RPC: Program not registered D'oh! My bad, had changed the IP address of the client without changing /etc/exports. Sorry to bug y'all. I'll send a working script when it's a bit more elegant. -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freenet seed nodes
Hello, I'm looking for a seed node or two to use for freenet. I've installed freenet on a bunch of stable systems and the seedNodes have all failed in multiple attempts over the last two weeks (Attempts were made to contact 30 nodes. 30 were totally unreachable... The request couldn't even make it off your node.). So I unpacked the sid version and tried that seedNodes table, but with the same result (49 were totally unreachable). Does anyone have a node I can attach to? Where is there a public seedNodes list? (Didn't see anything on freenet.sourceforge.net.) [Please CC me in replies] Zeen, -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Including external modules in initrd
Greetings, I'm building a beowulf whose nodes have Intel gigabit NICs, whose drivers are not in the stock kernel. So, I got the e1000 driver (and debianized it, but haven't ITPd or uploaded yet), and would like to use it for nfs-root. The problem is, I can't get this module into the initrd. Is there a way to include such external modules in the initrd using make-kpkg? I can't find anything in the kernel-package docs. Right now, I do: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image and then install the package on the head node and use mknbi to combine the kernel and initrd into one file which can be downloaded by etherboot. It boots just fine, but of course, with no e1000, there's no nfs over this card. I can also fakeroot make-kpkg modules to build the separate e1000 module .deb, but it doesn't get into the initrd, and can't get out to the nodes... Any ideas? TIA, -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/%7Epowell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading from stable to woody
Robert Funnell wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2002, Adam C Powell IV wrote: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody, and do apt-get dist-upgrade This usually works great, but for an upgrade of this magnitude (between releases), I'd strongly recommend dselect or another tool with interactive dependency negotiation. It's really helpful to be able to choose between packages providing dependencies, and to see what's Recommended and Suggested, even though dselect is a pain about Recommends... but that's another matter. :-) I was going to ask if one could do this using dselect rather than apt-get dist-upgrade, but concluded that it was a dumb question and that the answer was obviously 'no'. I guess I was wrong. Do you have to do anything special in dselect, or it's just a straight Upgrade? Nope. Just update, select (which will include the interactive dependency negotiation), and install. The install step includes apt-get dselect-upgrade (if you're using the apt method in deselct). When woody becomes stable, we'll just set our sources.list back to stable and carry on? Right. Zeen, -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/%7Epowell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading from stable to woody
Falk Hueffner wrote: Ted Goodridge, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this has been asked before, but what are , in general terms, the way of upgrading an entire system to woody? I have to install stable first (on an alpha...due to woody install glitches), Hmm, what's wrong with the woody installation? and need help finding documentation on how to do it. edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody, and do apt-get dist-upgrade This usually works great, but for an upgrade of this magnitude (between releases), I'd strongly recommend dselect or another tool with interactive dependency negotiation. It's really helpful to be able to choose between packages providing dependencies, and to see what's Recommended and Suggested, even though dselect is a pain about Recommends... but that's another matter. :-) Zeen, -- -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe! http://lyre.mit.edu/%7Epowell/The_Best_Stuff_In_The_World_Today_Cafe.ogg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tdfx X driver is whack; can't boot 2.4.2 image
Hello, Just upgraded to the latest X 4 (and the rest of sid), and I can't be sure X worked since 4.0.2-2, but -11 is quite broken! At 1600x1200, I get about 30 lines of garbage at the top of the screen- in the right colors, roughly- and black for the rest of the screen, and the cursor is correct for a few seconds, then becomes two horizontal lines. If I leave it running for long enough, I get all kinds of garbage in the cursor. This is on a Voodoo 3 2000, dual PIII 450 with 2.2.18. So, figuring it might work with a 2.4 kernel, I installed kernel-image-2.4.2-pentiumiii-smp, but can't get it to boot. I either get Unable to mount rootfs with some variation on 301/03:01 (root is /dev/hda1) or Kernel panic: I have no root and I want to scream!, both right after devfs tries to start. I tried devfs=mount, devfs=nomount, devfs=only root=/dev/ide/c0b0t0u0p1 and variations with and without noinitrd. Can't get root to mount at all. Oh- and I have devfsd installed, but that's irrelevant pre-INIT, right? How is it that this binary kernel image package which Debian distributes doesn't come with any kind of documentation on how to boot it? (Yes, I looked in its /usr/share/doc dir, and got kernel-doc-2.4.2 but had to search through Documentation/filesystems/devfs/README.gz for nearly an hour just to get as far as I did. Also did dpkg -L devfsd but nothing useful there either.) Please cc me if you reply. Thanks, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: Email client and conversion from Netscape Mail on win32
Mike Fedyk wrote: I'm going to keep my search to a text based email client, because I don't like to have to use vnc to view my email from home... Mutt is great in an Xterm, and picture viewing is good too. I wonder if mutt can use links or netscape for html viewing... Anyone know? It's probably in the config file, or some symlinked html-viewer in a bin dir... Looked in /etc/alternatives, but no browser or www grep results... Not sure if this will help, but the muttzilla package in unstable makes Netscape go the other way, that is, makes Netscape launch your favorite email client when a mailto: or news: URL is clicked. Also, if you use GNOME, the gnome-bin package has a binary called gnome-moz-remote. It's pretty neat- it controls a locally running Netscape, and even if you have Netscape running on another machine but on the local X display, it will open a new window on the remote Netscape and the local display. I don't know how they do that, but it's especially helpful on platforms without native Netscape such as Alpha or ARM (mozilla is currently broken on both too), where you have to run Netscape via ssh to another machine. Just FYI, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: Midnight commander undelete?
Martin Bialasinski wrote: * Adam C Powell, IV Adam wrote: Oops, typo in the email! I was trying /#undel:hdb1 but to no avail. Just tried it again, no such file or directory. mc -V says the undelfs is not compiled in. I have no idea why, the object file is compiled during build. Maybe because it is build in a chroot. I'll have to investigate further. Thank you very much! recover worked fine, but it would be nice to have this mc feature working. I just filed bug #88862, so people can see it's a known problem. -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: Midnight commander undelete?
Martin Bialasinski wrote: * Adam C Powell, IV Adam wrote: Hi, So I looked through /var/lib/dpkg/available and found something promising-looking in mc. I installed, ran, read the instructions, and tried to cd /#debug:hdb1 but it kept saying no such file or directory. It's cd /#undel:hdb1 Why do you think it is #debug? Oops, typo in the email! I was trying /#undel:hdb1 but to no avail. Just tried it again, no such file or directory. Thanks, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Midnight commander undelete?
Greetings, [Please cc me in replies... Thank you.] I erased a file this morning on an ext2fs partition on a potato machine, and would like to recover it. So I looked through /var/lib/dpkg/available and found something promising-looking in mc. I installed, ran, read the instructions, and tried to cd /#debug:hdb1 but it kept saying no such file or directory. This despite the potato mc package description saying, This version comes with undelete for ext2 filesystems compiled in. The mc homepage on gnome.org is totally useless, and everything else (e.g. the GNU page) points to it. The GNOME Documentation Project is totally useless for mc as well, and their maillist archives search function is broken for mc. So I searched the debian-user archives, and found a reference to /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion.txt.gz but that howto is well over a year old and requires a program called fsgrab which isn't listed in potato/Contents-i386.gz. Oh well. At least now I think I have a couple of good inode candidates... Can anyone help me to properly use mc or any other undelete function? Thank you very much, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: Midnight commander undelete?
mike polniak wrote: Adam C Powell IV wrote: Can anyone help me to properly use mc or any other undelete function? Try apt-get install recover Then go to www.linux-mag.com and read about recover and undeleting files in the August 2000 issue. Oh, excellent, cool, amazing! That's a really terrific utility! It totally automates the awful process from the ext2 recovery readme! I'm running potato, but fakeroot apt-get -b source recover (Build-Depends only on debhelper) built a working package that got the file I needed. I'll know in a little while whether it's completely intact... Thank you so much!! -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: sound question
Daniel Pittman wrote: Andrew Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I just recompiled my kernel so that my sound now works. The only problem is that I have to enter: modprobe nm256 in order to get the module to load into the kernel. Any body know how I can automate this or get it to run at startup. Add the name of any modules you want loaded at startup to the file '/etc/modules'. The right way to do this is to add it using modconf. But AFAIK this just adds it to /etc/modules (along with any arguments the module might need). Zeen, -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: debian: dhcpcd with Microsoft Windows2000 server
Brendan J Simon wrote: Our company has a Win2000 Domain server which has DNS and DHCP services. I have installed dhcpcd on our Debian Linux machines (PowerMac G4, PowerBook Pismo and a P133 machine) and they obtain the IP address and gateway from the Win2000 server without any problems. The problem I have is that the DNS *is* being automatically updated for the Win2000 clients but *not* for the Linux machines. I can't work out why. Maybe for the same reason that using Win2K as a domain controller is *banned* at MIT! http://web.mit.edu/is/help/win2000/nodc.html Zeen, -Adam P. Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount
Brendon B wrote: Okay, what about md v.90 in kernel = 2.3.40 or 2.4? I checked 2.3.40 and the old raid is in it. Where can i get a kernel that has new raid that is at least 2.2.14 or better? If you're satisfied with 2.2.14, just get the RAID 0.90 patch at http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-2.2.14-B1 I have it up and running on my ABIT dual celeron box now. I am happy. :-) HTH, -Adam P.
Re: Help HOWTO's
JB Popnoe wrote: Beginner Linux - Up and running / need lots of examples and will start slow - using man help and would like to print some pages - mouse running but still need X11 -Debian manual back cover says intro - however Chpt. 9 makes a lot of assumptions that I don't know ?? Someone cookbook me on Printers first - then I will get with X11 - checking packages installed and still looking -JBThank you for any help you can point me too. ??? Unfortunately, the most cookbook printers help I can give requires X11, it's called printtool. What kind of trouble are you having with X11? Have you tried XF86setup? -Adam P.
Re: Epson Stylus Photo 700
Jonathan Markevich wrote: I got one of the above printers and reinstalled apsfilter with the Ghostscript escp2 driver but can't print... I get an error in filter f or something like that... Let me cut to the chase... I need a printcap! Has anyone else here got one of these working? I read on Slashdot one fella got it working fine but was Anonymous Coward so I can't ask him... Sub-question: what's the right way to add reconfigure printers without purging reinstalling apsfilter? I tried for a couple of days to get a 750 working, and it never did. Well, got some black-and-white output with white lines across using the escp2 driver, but that's it. Printcap's attached. Then I looked at the LDP printer howto, and the 700/750 are listed as only partially supported! Bummer. I'm trying to return it, but the vendor doesn't want to take back printers, my secretary managed to sweet-talk them into considering a refund, we'll see what happens... If you can get it working, I'd love to see your printcap! Thanks, -Adam P. # /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5). # You can use the filter entries df, tf, cf, gf etc. for # your own filters. See the printcap(5) manual page for further # details. # :lp= # :rm=remotehost # :rp=remoteprinter # :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote # :mx#0 # :sh ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL st800 360x360 letter {} EpsonStylus800 Default {} lp0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:\ :if=/usr/share/printtool/master-filter:
Re: 2.2.10-14 i686 SMP: IDE RAID-5 array hangs on mount
Khimenko Victor wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adam C Powell IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: AI Apologies for the delay, I've been having some email trouble. Future followups AI will be a lot quicker. AI Khimenko Victor wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adam C Powell IV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greetings, I have a RAID-5 array across 10 GB partitions on four 17 GB IDE drives at hda-d, and a RAID-0 array across 5 GB partitions on the same drives, on a dual-Celeron ABIT BP6 motherboard (haven't installed the recent BIOS upgrade). I've built SMP kernels from 2.2.10 and 2.2.13 source with gcc-2.95, and then 2.2.13 and 2.2.14 with gcc-2.7.2.3, all using the standard Debian .config except 686 and SMP (well, approximately the Debian 2.2.13 config for 2.2.14). That is: you are using broken RAID implementation and expect it to work somehow ? AI Uh, there's a broken RAID implementation in a stable kernel? Not exactly broken. More like unmaintained. It works for some peoples but there are LOTS of problems with it :-/ And noone bother to fix them since there are exist version 0.90 :-) For all of these kernels, the machine always hangs while mounting the RAID-5 array. It never hangs while mounting the RAID-0 array, which happens to come before it. And it never hangs under the non-SMP 386 Debian kernel images. Are there any known races which got into 2.2.14? I haven't yet tried 2.2.15-pre, is there any reason to believe it might solve the problem? It will not solve problem. RAID as it is in 2.2.x kernels us unstable and unmaintained. You REALLY should use raid patches. There are some incompatibilities with 2.2.x RAID implementation and latest RAID patches and thus it's not going in 2.2.x but if you need working raid (and you do hot have one) you SHOULD NOT use stock 2.2.x RAID. Use one from http://people.redhat.com/mingo/raid-2.2.14-B1 AI Hmm, I sense a contradiction here: 2.2.x RAID is incompatible with the latest AI RAID patches and so will stay in, but 2.2.x RAID is unstable and unmaintained. AI If you don't mind my asking, what kind of logic motivated that policy? 1. If you are lucky and have working RAID based on stock 2.2.x (for example RAID 0 :-) you should be able to upgrade to 2.2.14 without big hassle. So upgrade to RAID 0.90 in mainstream kernel posponed to 2.4 ... Thanks, I will do that as soon as possible. 2. RAID 0.90 need some changes in some important kernel structures and such changes will affect even users without RAID. RedHat 6.1 includes RAID patches anyway so I'm not sure if 2. still can be considered seriously. Cool, then maybe they'll be in 2.2.15? AI But seriously. So what you're telling me is that I need to back up all of my AI data, install a patched kernel (and Debian raidtools2), and completely wipe and AI reinstall the RAID arrays, right? Are there any tools to translate old RAID AI arrays into new ones? AFAIK you do not need to backup data and reinstall it (I can be wrong here). You should install new RAID tools and accomodate configuration files but actual contents of RAID array do not need to be reinstalled. Thank you, this is very comforting news! I'll back up anyway, but it's very good to know that the old arrays should mount. AI Please seriously consider the attached patch for 2.2.15. It will save a lot of AI time and grief for RAID amateurs like myself. RAID amateurs will use RedHat 6.1 with patched kernel :-) Okay, then RAID amateurs who use any other distro (okay, perhaps SuSE and TurboLinux have the patches...), or RAID amateurs who download the latest stock kernel. When 2.2.15 comes out, should such amateurs be expected to know to wait for RedHat 6.2 (or SuSE whatever)? Thank you very much for the help, I appreciate it very much. But I do still think there needs to be some change in the way RAID is done in the stable kernel. Either it should be patched to use RAID 0.90, or there should be VERY LOUD WARNINGS in many places, including drivers/block/Config.in, Documentation/Configure.help and Documentation/md.txt (and in Debian, in /usr/share/doc/raidtools/DO-NOT-USE), telling people not to expect what's there to work. I cannot tell you how frustrated this has made me over the last three months, when kernel after kernel just failed. I tried different IDE options, I tried different compilers, and each time my RAID array took more than seven hours to ckraid --fix (which was not automatic in Debian potato until about a month ago, so the downtime was often a lot longer), during which /home for my entire research group- including everyone's web pages- was unavailable. After the third or fourth failure, I went to the debian-user mailing list, where the advice given was to just use gcc 2.7.2, which of course did nothing for me, and I asked again and nobody had any clue. I've been enjoying Linux for long enough on a wide enough variety
Re: ssh encryption
hypnos wrote: Am I correct in assuming that the encryption between client/server is started before any exchange of data takes place? Specifically, I'm wondering if the username is passed in clear-text or encrypted when using the -l username option to ssh client. The machine public keys are exchanged, after that *everything* (including username and password) is encrypted. HTH, -Adam P.
Re: PC as serial terminal via telnet
Philipp Braunbeck wrote: Hello folks, I'd like to connect a PC running Debian (zaphod) to our server (trillian) running Suse 6.0. Trillian connects to an intelligent Specialix SIO multiserial board. Zaphod should connect to this board via ttyS0/1 using telnet. Uh, using telnet? Via SLIP (internet protocol over serial)? Or do you just mean as a dumb terminal? I did actually read all those fine manuals and HOWTO's but am still a little confused and could need some more comprehensive explanation on how to con- figure both client and server, namely port config, tel- net config, termcap stuff, and the like. If as a dumb terminal, for the server, look at /etc/inittab, there should be something you can comment out about tty on the serial port. For the client, just use minicom and it should work. Speaking of which, I can't get a modem dialin to work using those commented lines in initttab. Any ideas? It's an internal Rockwell modem, I can dial out with it, but the modem doesn't answer. This is on potato, and the inittab line is: T0:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x0 -s 115200 ttyS0 If SLIP, sorry, I can't help. May the Source be with You. And also with you. :-) BTW, you should use tzconfig (I think that's the Slink command, maybe it's timezones) to set your timezone. Thanks for any help on the modem question, -Adam P.
Re: Help! - DEC Alpha install
Shawn wrote: I am installing Debian on an Alphastation 255 and am having problems getting Debian to boot from MILO. The error messages of interest are as follows: You might get more/better help on debian-alpha list, I usually subscribe to that and not this because of the traffic here, and think I'm not alone... Warning: Unable to open initial console /dev/console Kernel Panic: cannot open initial console /dev/console And then she sinks. The boot command I have been using is as follows: MILO boot fd0:linux root=/dev/fd0 panic=30 This is the rescue floppy? IIRC, you need: boot fd0:linux root=/dev/fd0 load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=1 You need to make the root.bin floppy also. The Alpha install docs are absolutely abysmal. I sent a patch for a small amount of the HTML about a couple of months ago, which seems to have gone ignored, though it may have gone into the potato docs. (Where can one find the potato docs? What format are they in?) Hope this helps, -Adam P.
Re: my font suddently become very ugly
Shao Zhang wrote: Howard Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, A couple days ago, my font is just suddently become very ugly. I orginially thought it was the fvwm problem, then I found that all other window's manager have the same problem. I suggest you use True Type fonts utilizing the xfstt font server. Installing xfstt did not help at all. I have both xfs and xfstt running. [11:43|pts/[EMAIL PROTECTED] % xlsfonts| grep ttf |h -ttf-algerian-medium-r-normal-regular-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial black-medium-r-normal-regular-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial narrow-bold-i-normal-bold italic-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial narrow-bold-r-normal-bold-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial narrow-medium-i-normal-italic-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial narrow-medium-r-normal-regular-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial rounded mt bold-bold-r-normal-bold-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial-bold-i-normal-bold italic-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial-bold-r-normal-bold-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -ttf-arial-medium-i-normal-italic-0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 Here is the relevant entries in the /etc/X11/XFConfig file: FontPath unix/:7101 FontPath unix/:7100 FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese/:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/chinese/ I have the Speedo and Type1 between 100dpi:unscaled and 100dpi, so if the correct size is not found in 100dpi unscaled it will look in type1 *before* trying to scale 100dpi. I've noticed also there are some apps which really want to use 75dpi fonts. Enlightenment seems to be this way, when I didn't have 75dpi fonts the title bars were quite ugly and the tooltips were empty! Installing 75dpi helped. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: mouse refuses to configure!
Joshua N Pritikin wrote: + The mouse hardware and cables are okay because the mouse works fine in Windows 95. + I suspected gpm so I disabled it with gpm -k and removed the startup file from /etc/rc6.d. Does the mouse work in GPM? Did you try gpmconfig in a console? That might help identify the device and protocol + I tried /dev/ttyS0-ttyS4 and some other random devices. /dev/mouse is symlink'd to /dev/ttyS0. Did you try /dev/psaux with mouse type PS2? Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Sound in Debian
Jeff Flowers wrote: Greetings, I have been using Debian on and off for some time. However, I have not yet seen how to add sound to a Debian system. Is there a package for Debian that supports sound? If it matters, I have an ESS 1371. What kernel are you using? If potato with one of the recent 2.2 kernels, you should be able to install the es1371 module using modconf. Then add your users who will use audio to group `audio'. A lot of programs use sound in Debian. One common foundation for them is audiofile/esd, which is used by Enlightenment and all of GNOME. But if you're still using Slink, this is somewhat irrelevant. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Two SCSI
Christopher Clark wrote: I would like to set up a computer with two SCSI cards, probably an Advansys U2W and a NCR. i.e. two different makes. I know recent Red Hats can cope with this but am not sure Debian can. Are there any gotchas? This seems like more of a kernel issue than a distro issue. The default Debian kernel probes for several SCSI interfaces on boot, I think it should be no problem to mix two different ones as you describe. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: NFS-mounting /var/spool/mail
Dave Sherohman wrote: Adam C Powell IV said: Is there any way to set an NFS timeout so it only tries for, say, five seconds? Or anything else I can do to allow root logins to the clients when the server is down? Otherwise, I have to power cycle and wait for fsck... From man mount, under the heading Mount options for nfs: Excellent, that's what I was looking for, but didn't know where to look. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: RAID trouble with SMP kernels
aphro wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Adam C Powell IV wrote: hazels Is it at all possible this could be a kernel compiler issue? I built the kernel with hazels the latest gcc, which is 2.95.2-3. hazels hazels If no answer by Friday I'll go to to the vger kernel list. ouch!!! dont ever ever ever ever ever ever (1x ever) compile a kernel with gcc2.9x, you are asking for trouble there have always been issues with most compilers OTHER then gcc 2.7.2.3 read the kernel mailing list (http://kt.linuxcare.com) there are a ton of issues in the kernel(not all of them problems with the compiler) that make for BIG problems when compiled with something other then 2.7.2.3 Update: the last one I read says Alan Cox uses egcs, I think 1.1.2. And the 2.2.14 notes have a number of fixes to let it compile with 2.95 (though not all of it does- see below). The warning is in order, but the 1x never is a bit overblown. in short, use gcc2.7.2.3 for the kernel, use whatever you want for everything else :) Okay, after finals and vacation, finally got around to getting gcc272 and building the kernel (2.2.13) using it. The compiler was *NOT* the problem- I get exactly the same result as before. That is, it seems to do mdadd and mdrun just fine, but when it goes to *mount* the RAID-5 partition, it freezes. The only silver lining is that if I don't catch lilo in time, ckraid running under SMP 2.2.13 (and miraculously, under 2.0.36-scsimod from slink rescue!) is about six times faster than under kernel-image-2.2.10!! So, noticed that the 2.2.14 release notes indicate elimination of some IDE hangs, and built 2.2.14 with basically the same config as the default 2.2.13 (from the now-obsolete i386 kernel-patch package) but with SMP, and Ppro/686 instead of 386. First tried with gcc-2.95 (latest potato), but that failed in drivers/hfmodem, so I did make-kpkg clean and built it with gcc272. And it *still* fails, same place. It mounts a raid0 setup just fine, but not raid5. To rehash: I'm trying to build an SMP kernel for an Abit BP6 dual-celeron motherboard with RAID-5 over partitions on four IDE drives (hda-d; yes, I know it would be faster and more robust over four IDE controllers, but I'm more interested in data integrity than speed, and haven't tried making the Ultra-66 interfaces work yet). The stock 2.2.10 kernel package (non-SMP) works fine, but when I tried building 2.2.10 or 2.2.13 with gcc-2.95, or 2.2.13 or 2.2.14 with gcc-2.7.2, the machine locks up when mounting the RAID device. Please help if you can; if no answers within a week, I'll assume it's an unknown problem and go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zeen, Adam Powell http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/ Thomas B. King Assistant Professor of Materials Engineering 77 Massachusetts Ave. Rm. 4-117 Phone (617) 452-2086 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Fax (617) 253-5418
Printing to serial port?
Greetings, I have a StarMax (Pmac 4400 clone by Motorola) with a LaserJet 1100 connected using PowerPrint, which is a mac serial to parallel interface which comes with MacOS driver software. How can I print to the serial port? I tell printtool to use device /dev/ttyS1, and when I print, it says: # lpq lp is ready and printing Rank Owner Job Files Total Size active root 0/usr/share/printtool/testpage.ps 16399 bytes But nothing happens. Here's the relevant /etc/printcap entry: ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL lj4dith 600x600 letter {} LaserJet4dither Default {} lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/ttyS1:\ :if=/usr/share/printtool/master-filter: (no replies from debian-ppc list, so I'm posting here.) TIA, Adam Powell http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/ Thomas B. King Assistant Professor of Materials Engineering 77 Massachusetts Ave. Rm. 4-117 Phone (617) 452-2086 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Fax (617) 253-5418
NFS-mounting /var/spool/mail
Greetings, I have /var/spool/mail nfs mounted on my client machines, so users on the clients can use movemail to get their mail, and so mail sent to the client machines will go to the universal spool on the server. Unfortunately, when the server goes down, even root cannot log in to the clients, because (I think) it tries to check for available mail and hangs indefinitely. Is there any way to set an NFS timeout so it only tries for, say, five seconds? Or anything else I can do to allow root logins to the clients when the server is down? Otherwise, I have to power cycle and wait for fsck... TIA, Adam Powell http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/ Thomas B. King Assistant Professor of Materials Engineering 77 Massachusetts Ave. Rm. 4-117 Phone (617) 452-2086 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Fax (617) 253-5418
Re: NIS and groups
Peter Ross wrote: On 03-Dec-1999, Adam C Powell IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] How do I set things up so that either it will recognize group memberships on the NIS server, or else allow me to add NIS users to local groups? Do I need to eliminate local groups like floppy, mail, etc? You are in luck, I just set NIS up yesterday, and encountered a similar problem. In /var/yp/Makefile, you need to set MINGID to be some lower value to get the groups with smaller group ids, being shared across the systems. Thank you very much, this worked perfectly! Adam Powellhttp://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/ Thomas B. King Assistant Professor of Materials Engineering 77 Massachusetts Ave. Rm. 4-117Phone (617) 452-2086 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Fax (617) 253-5418
Re: apt-get on local filesystem
Robert J. Alexander wrote: I have a copy of debian/dists/unstable on my hard disk I am too dumb to understand how to specify the correct string in /etc/apt/sources.list so that apt will use this source instead of the HTTP sites (to which I have no connectivity). Use file:/whatever/debian Zeen, -Adam P.
NIS and groups
Greetings, To get Netscape movemail working on my NIS server, I did: adduser hazelsct mail so NS could write a lock file to /var/spool/mail. However, when I try to do this on the NIS clients, I get # adduser hazelsct mail Adding user hazelsct to group mail... usermod: hazelsct not found in /etc/passwd adduser: `usermod -G mail hazelsct' returned error code 6. Aborting. Cleaning up. Of course hazelsct isn't in /etc/passwd, because hazelsct isn't a local user! Same goes for group floppy, to write to the floppy disk, and numerous others. How do I set things up so that either it will recognize group memberships on the NIS server, or else allow me to add NIS users to local groups? Do I need to eliminate local groups like floppy, mail, etc? System info: latest potato on x86. TIA, -Adam P.
Re: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)
Peter S Galbraith wrote: Ironically, your lines are too long. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/ Oh no! That's too funny. I have Netscape using its default of 72 characters per line, but it's wrapping at about 85! Okay, I eat (some of) my words. Netscape ain't perfect either. -Adam P.
Re: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)
Paul McHale wrote: Steve, I agree that I am using MS Outlook. I think it is the best program available for my use. I don't understand your difficulty. I forwarded the message to my linux server and opened it with mutt. It came across in plain text. I double checked the outlook transmit message settings and they are set to plain text ! Is anyone else noticing this problem of my message posting in HTML ??? There are two problems with MS Outlook, one regarding breaking the thread (which I'll return to in a moment), one regarding non-standard HTML. On non-standard HTML, Outlook uses nonstandard font size tags which look like font size=3D12 presumably because it is mixing standards. In one standard (I don't know which), = is a special character used for end-of-line and otherwise as an escape character, so representing = requires =3D (since 3D is hex for the ASCII of =). The other standard is HTML. This font size tag, a mixture of the two, is bad HTML, and in Netscape Mail it causes the HTML text to be rendered in the smallest font available! Hence it is really annoying to us Netscape Mail users, and probably other HTML and (perhaps) rich text clients. Outlook also is filled with all kinds of superfluous DIV and SPAN and FONT tags, which make it very difficult to edit when quoting in Netscape. NS uses very few formatting commands, so the reader client's preferences in font face, size, color, etc. are respected unless deliberately overridden by the author. I've found it to be as lean as if I were writing the HTML myself. But others have disagreed with me about Netscape editor, so I'll stop there. Outlook also defaults to sending email in both plain text and HTML, so emails are twice as big as they should be. Netscape defaults to plain text (even if you compose in the HTML editor) unless there are HTML features like tables, images, bulleted lists, etc, in which case it asks the user whether to send in plain text, HTML or both. A much more intelligent default IMHO. But you're right, Outlook can be made to send in plain text, and your (Paul) emails have been good about this. Daniel's first post was in both plain text and HTML, so it was ugly in Netscape, and twice as big as it needed to be. Many other posts to this list have this problem. As far as breaking the thread, what are refering to? Netscape mail from the beginning borrowed a convention from newsgroups such that a reply gives the message ID of the original message, and all previous references as well. This allows Debian's archiving system (and other email clients who recieve the message) to thread the messages very nicely, so one can tell which messages are in reply to which others in a thread, ordering by reply rather than by date. Many other clients seem to have adopted this as well. (Actually, I'm not sure whether NS started this, it's so widespread that it's probably not just NS-originated.) Clients which don't use this convention cannot be properly thread in email clients or in the Debian archives. Quoting the wrong way. Feel free to expand on this one ... I'm not sure what this is referring to. So, lots of reasons not to use Outlook. I'm curious, why do you find it to be the best available? What does it offer that, say, Netscape can't do with a good IMAP server? Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Joystick on a SB32
Ingles, Raymond wrote: From: David Blackman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have my SB32 autoconfigured by my BIOS, with sound support in my kernel, how can I get the joystick port on my SB32 to work without turning off auto-PNP in BIOS, and isapnp'ing it. I'm not sure you can. Somehow the card needs to be told to activate the joystick port, and where to map it (almost always 0x200-0x207). If your BIOS can't, I don't think the kernel drivers are smart enough to. Ins't there a field in the pnpdump for the game port? If you uncomment the right lines, it should be possible to activate and map it properly using isapnp, right? Never tried it, just wondering. Zeen, Adam Powellhttp://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/ Thomas B. King Assistant Professor of Materials Engineering 77 Massachusetts Ave. Rm. 4-117Phone (617) 452-2086 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Fax (617) 253-5418
Re: RAID trouble with SMP kernels
Is it at all possible this could be a kernel compiler issue? I built the kernel with the latest gcc, which is 2.95.2-3. If no answer by Friday I'll go to to the vger kernel list. Adam C Powell wrote: Greetings, About two months ago, I built 2.2.12 with SMP and RAID 5 for my dual-Celeron (Abit BP6) system with four IDE drives. I booted, and it fsck'd the arrays just fine, and mounted all the non-RAID partitions, but when it went to mount the RAID partitions, it froze. I heard some reports about a race in 2.2.12 IDE, so I waited for 2.2.13, which I finally built yesterday, same result! How can it fsck the array successfully, and then fail to mount it?? So now I once again have to go back to kernel-image-2.2.10, and ckraid --fix, which takes seven hours on my two partitions. Very annoying, and discouraging of future attempts to try another SMP kernel... What on earth could be wrong? Here's the RAID info as printed during ckraid --fix: checking raid level 5 set /dev/md0 MD ID: a92b4efc Conforms to MD version: 0.36.4 Raid set ID: b7ad977a Creation time: Tue Sep 7 18:01:58 1999 Update time: Sat Nov 27 20:56:07 1999 State: 0 Raid level: 5 Individual disk size:5120 MB (5243008 kB) Chunk size: 32 kB Parity algorithm:2 (left-symmetric) Total number of disks: 4 Number of raid disks:4 Number of active disks: 4 Number of working disks: 4 Number of failed disks: 0 Number of spare disks: 0 Disk 0: raid_disk 0, state: 6 (operational, active, sync) Disk 1: raid_disk 1, state: 6 (operational, active, sync) Disk 2: raid_disk 2, state: 6 (operational, active, sync) Disk 3: raid_disk 3, state: 6 (operational, active, sync) array size: 1572902kB=0xC006 It's running now for ~2:15 to clean up this partition, then will go another 5 or so hours for a 30 GB partition on /dev/md1 Unfortunately, I don't have my kernel config now- it's trapped in the sick machine. :-( I built Raid 5 as a module, and modconf has it in its list. But that should be installing properly, since it is fscking, right? If I get help here, I'll try once more tomorrow, twice if I can start early. Otherwise, that second processor- and the nice dual-Celeron MB- will be a total waste. :-( Adam Powellhttp://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/ Thomas B. King Assistant Professor of Materials Engineering 77 Massachusetts Ave. Rm. 4-117Phone (617) 452-2086 Cambridge, MA 02139 USA Fax (617) 253-5418
Re: Gnome/E
Oki DZ wrote: Hi, I have installed Gnome and Enlightenment on my Pentium 133/64MB RAM; I think Gnome is doing fine; there's no need to use dual Pentium machines. Currently it's pretty basic, no browser or file manager. For the file manager, you need to install gmc. There's a slightly functional browser in gnome-help-browser, it dies or hangs on a lot of complex html, but does a nice job of formatting man, info and of course GNOME help documents. It doesn't seem to have progressed in over a year, because its replacement will use a CORBA wrapper over the mozilla gtk widget (ready RSN...), so it will be a first-class browser. I think if you install task-gnome-desktop you'll get both of these (file manager and help browser). Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Potato ISO-Images
Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello, can anyone tell me, where I can get the ISO-Images for Potato with Kernet 2.2.13 ? I don't think there are any potato ISO images at this point. We don't even have finished boot floppies for many platforms! Sorry, -Adam P.
Re: CD-Writer recomendation!
Manuel Arenaz Silva wrote: Hello again, A friend of mine is interested in buying a CD-Writer. He asked me to recomend a model to him, but I have no idea. Can anyone help me to go through this situation? There's a nice document on IDE CD-Rs and Zips at http://www.tcu-inc.com/mark/articles/Ide.html Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Font in GNOME
Sven Gaerner wrote: Hi! I'm running potato with GNOME and gmc with some icons on the desktop. The font of this icons is very bad to read... Can anybody help me? Is it that it's too small, or the letters are misshapen? I had some really ugly letters in the window title bars of enlightenment, because I had installed xfonts-100dpi but not 75dpi, so it was trying to use scalable fonts to make smaller lettering, which was really ugly. Do you have the 75 dpi fonts installed? But you raise a good point: you can set the default gtk font using the theme selector, but not the font of the gmc icons. You might want to file a wishlist bug report for gmc, ask them to use the default gtk font, or to allow users to choose a new one. It may be more helpful to file this report at bugs.gnome.org, since it will go more directly to the author that way; at bugs.debian.org it first has to go through the package maintainer. GNOME uses the Debian bug tracking system, just on a different server. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: HELP, my installation is broken!!
Svante Signell wrote: In an attempt to upgrade from slink to potato the installation got broken. The following I need help with. 1. Networking using eth0 and another computer as gateway is no longer functional. How do I reconfigure networking?? I'm not sure, that should be working. Check /etc/init.d/network, /etc/hosts, and /etc/hostname, if they're all correct then `/etc/init.d/network restart', if that doesn't work try `/etc/init.d/network stop; ifconfig eth0 down; rmmod your NIC module; insmod your NIC module; ifconfig eth0 up; /etc/init.d/network restart'. Also, the new netbase is a subset of the old without libwrap0 and tcpd; likewise, netstd is an empty package which depends on its old components. Package dependencies should get everything you need automatically, but something might have slipped. Make sure you have all of these in your new potato install. 2. The apt-get update and dist-upgrade did not update the kernel. How come? I need a 2.2.x kernel to get SMP support. The kernel is not packaged as kernel, but as kernel-2.0.36 or whatever. Do: apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.13 and it will do what you need it to (including updating your /vmlinuz link and pointing /vmlinuz.old to the old kernel, prompting you and running lilo to install a new boot block if you like, prompting you to create a boot floppy, etc.). Or use dselect, go to Select, and search for kernel-image using the / key, hit + to indicate you want to install, and it will prompt you for dependencies and recommendations. For SMP, you will need to build your own kernel. Use apt or dselect as above to get kernel-source-2.2.13 (and dependencies/recommended packages). You will probably want to get kernel-package, as it builds a coherent .deb package with all of your modules, system.map, etc. which installs nicely and is easy to remove. Here's how I do it: 1. cd /usr/src; tar xIf kernel-source-2.2.13.tar.bz2 2. ln -s kernel-source-2.2.13 linux 3. cd linux; make [x/menu]config [note: kernel-patch for i386 has the standard debian .config, it might help to start with this; be sure to save .config for future use] 4. make-kpkg kernel-image ../log-2.2.13 You can tail -f ../log-2.2.13 to watch its progress. When it's done, there's a new kernel package in /usr/src, use `dpkg --install kernel-image-whatever.deb' to install it (and update the boot block, make a boot floppy, etc.). WARNING: You really should not get kernel-image and kernel-source of the same version. You'll end up trying to install, e.g., 2.2.13 on top of 2.2.13, with inevitable conflicts. Maybe the 2.2.12 image and 2.2.13 kernel. Also note: uninstalling a kernel-image seems to be slightly broken, it might leave dangling symlinks in /vmlinuz or /vmlinuz.old. Make sure you check and clean these up if necessary before rebooting! Finally: it's a good idea to make an alternate lilo startup possibility, in case your new kernel doesn't boot. To do this, edit /etc/lilo.conf, adding a new entry triplet which boots from /vmlinuz.old. Mine is attached. 3. Which is the preferred tool dselect, apt and/or dpkg? I can easily do all upgrades in an .rpm system, but I'm new to .deb. Apt is a front-end to dpkg, which uses your preferred URL (file, ftp, http, etc.) to get packages and dpkg to install them. Dselect is a front-end which can use apt or other install methods to get packages and dpkg to install them. As a newcomer, it's probably better to start with dselect, and when you get tired of going through the menus for simple operations, then use the simple apt command line interface. For example, getting the latest version info on every package there is is as simple as apt-get update Having done that, you can upgrade everything in your system with apt-get dist-upgrade Powerful, isn't it? I don't think there's a counterpart in the RedHat world... This is probably more than you asked for, but hope some of it helped! -Adam P. boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only image=/vmlinuz.old label=OldLinux read-only
Re: Proposal: Source file package format
Svante Signell wrote: Greetings, What do you think of the following proposal: In order to simplify for package authors/maintainers and to reduce duplication, distribute the source file packages in .tar.gz (or .tar.bz2) format. This avoids the need to provide both .tar.gz, .src.rpm and debian source files. Included in these tarballs add .spec and .dsc files together with the original .tar.gz package and .diff.gz files. Then everybody interested can build source/binary files for their own preferred distribution using the same source files!! Many packages already do this. And you need the debian *directory*, not just a .dsc file. This is a good suggestion, but should really be left up to the individual package author. The way to do this, IMHO, is not to write to every list you're on, but to write to authors of software, suggesting they include a .spec file and debian directory, and if you're really motivated, giving them a patch which provides this. Advantages == ++ Reduces traffic on multiple lists simultaneously ++ Gives feedback to the person who can act on it ++ Solves the problem you address directly Drawbacks = -- Not everyone in the world gets to hear this idea and implement it right away Another issue is to merge the binary file formats .deb and .rpm :-( Already done, the Debian program alien converts .rpms to .debs. It's harder to go the other way because .debs have more information. Also, file layouts differ, e.g. /etc/init.d vs. /etc/rc.d/init.d, each has its valid reasons and probably won't change anytime soon; translators need to take this into account. More broadly, why is diversity such a big problem? Proprietary software can use autoconf to look for files in different places and release for different distros as easily as free software authors can, right? And the exercise in cleaning up code to do this helps authors of all kinds easily port to other platforms, such as 64-bit, reversed-endian, *BSD, the proprietary Unices, resulting in a larger market, right? Oliver Elphick wrote: The obvious problem I see, is that this needs a new central repository where someone, or some automatic process, put together all the elements into one. How about, like, the author of the package? Take, for example, PostgreSQL, one of my packages. I download its source from postgresql.org and build the new package; later I fix bugs and put up a new Debian release. Presumably Lamar Owen is doing the same kind of thing for the rpms. However, I don't have the latest rpms and he doesn't have the latest debs; neither are interested in the other's product. Who is to put all the elements together and make sure they are up to date and that they stay up to date? You mean you don't send your patches upstream? I would think (I would hope) the original author is interested in both products, and would take patches from both you and Lamar Owen, possibly including .spec files and the debian directory. Then consider if someone loads an experimental version of the same package; the ordinary version is still current in unstable, but now there is another version in experimental; and what happens to all the older stuff in stable? Where do those debs go? I've built several packages from source, all you have to do is use dselect to put a hold on the new version so it doesn't upgrade to the version in unstable. Or am I missing something? Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: NIS
Marcin Kurc wrote: I was a little bored today so I looked into the new NIS package. It works fine if you change a small thing :) Check out your /var/yp/Makefile, you probably have an entry like this: # Should we merge the passwd file with the shadow file ? # MERGE_PASSWD=true|false MERGE_PASSWD=false # Should we merge the group file with the gshadow file ? # MERGE_GROUP=true|false MERGE_GROUP=false [...snip...] Just change MERGE_PASSWD=false and MERGE_GROUP=false to MERGE_PASSWD=true MERGE_GROUP=true, then /usr/lib/ypinit -m and it works :) Thank you very much, this worked beautifully! Zeen, -Adam ...the firmament sheweth His handywork (Ps 19:1)/// __ ///| Adam Cold Fusion Powell IV Firmament Science Engineering\\\///_| http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/ Standing on the Solid State Rock\XX/ |MIGA
Re: stopping x from starting automatically
Brian Servis wrote: *- On 12 Nov, Adam C Powell IV wrote about Re: stopping x from starting automatically Is there some reason xdm and gdm are linked from /etc/rc.2 and /etc/rc.3? I thought only runlevel 5 was supposed to start X by default. I remove these links myself, but it seems like making this default would be real easy, and would make Debian that much more standard. If no reason by Monday, I'll file a wishlist bug report in xdm and gdm (kdm?). Don't bother filing a bug. I filed one against xdm for the same reason a long time ago and it was re-assigned to debian-policy and then rejected. The bug report(#34046) doesn't say why it was rejected but usually policy bugs need support of a quorum of developers. Jeepers, rejected without reason? How very un-Debian-like! Okay, thanks for the feedback, -Adam P.
Re: Small observation [FYI]
Peter Iannarelli wrote: Hello all: I recently attempted to upgrade from 2.1 to potato and observed the following: When using deselect for upgrade purposes the symbolic link between /bin/bash and /bin/sh was removed following the upgrade of bash. Following the loss of this sym-link all upgrade attempts failed with the error dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: No such file or directory Indeed. I recommend the following upgrade procedure: * edit /etc/apt/sources.list changing stable to potato or unstable, and changing non-us.debian.org stable non-US to potato/non-US main contrib non-free. * apt-get update * apt-get install apt * apt-get install bash * dselect This is what I have been using to upgrade new machines. Does it make sense? Any of it unnecessary? But yes, this should probably be fixed. Thanks, -Adam P.
Re: stopping x from starting automatically
Hello, Is there some reason xdm and gdm are linked from /etc/rc.2 and /etc/rc.3? I thought only runlevel 5 was supposed to start X by default. I remove these links myself, but it seems like making this default would be real easy, and would make Debian that much more standard. If no reason by Monday, I'll file a wishlist bug report in xdm and gdm (kdm?). Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: NIS
Ramin Motakef wrote: Hi! DonĀ“t know if this is our problem, but after a recent ubgrade of a slink box the +::: entryies in /etc/passwd and /etc/group on this box where missing. I didnt notice this at first, as i was logged in as root, so i dont know which package caused this (base-passwd??). Anyway, editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group solved the problems with nis for me. Thanks very much, that was the first thing I checked. The plus entries are still there, on the master and the client. With the new NIS, do I have to put such entries in /etc/shadow and /etc/gshadow too? How does this relate to the doc section restricting access to the NIS server? Do I put those in in the same way? Didn't have to with the old NIS... Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: NIS
A me too: NIS stopped working for me about a week ago. All I did was add a user, then cd /var/yp; make. Normal console login at the clients just spits me out as if I gave a bad username or password. gdm shakes and says, Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. Logging in as root and then su to a nis user gives: # su hazelsct su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. (Ignored) Unknown colorls variable `do'. Segmentation fault # Until a couple of days ago, su worked (with the warning and the Ignored), then it stopped around Tuesday. ps auwx | grep yp gives four ypbind processes on the client, and on the master it gives the same plus ypserv, rpc.yppasswdd -e chsh and rpc.ypxfrd. I've tried re-initializing the server, another cd /var/yp; make, looking diligently at the debian howto, but nothing works. Oh- logins work fine on the master. Any help would be much appreciated, even an explanation of the conditions which lead to this error message. -Adam P.
Re: Why use Enlightenment?
Another opinion, worth what you're paying for it: I actually switched from E to sawmill and then back to E. Why? Part of it was the eye candy, I really like the real-time ripples on the bottom of the screen using just 2% of cpu (Celeron 333), translucent drag is dead cool, tooltips are classic, and there's something satisfying about hearing a window explode when I close it. But there's also the pager (mentioned elsewhere), which doesn't use a noticeable amount of cpu even on my PPC 603e 160 at home (I think it's around 2%, wish there were an option to continuously scan all desktops!), and window shading. Most useful of all are the window size and movement features, such as window overlap edge resistance, resistance to moving a window off the edge of the screen, intelligent window placement, and desktop cleanup (where all the windows slide around going wheee-boioioioing simultaneously until they're neatly aligned). I have yet to see any of these features in any other WM. Call me what you like, but having used these things for a few months since E 0.15 came out, it's very psychologically frustrating to do without them. NO, you STUPID WINDOW, I DON'T want to have to move my mouse a pixel at a time JUST to put you exactly next to the other one! For those who haven't tried it, I recommend giving it a go. You just might become addicted too, to the eye candy and to some truly useful and unique features. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: NIS
Marcin Kurc wrote: I was writing about earlier but everybody said thet NIS works fine :) It looks that nis 3.6 doesnt support shadow passwords. I'm using 3.4-1 and it works fine. REALLY? Can you say, release-critical bug? The docs say nothing about this. I don't see any reported bugs on this. How do I go to 3.4 on potato? Thanks for the info, -Adam P.
Re: Couldn't update dpkg
Patrik Magnusson wrote: I hope these lines say it all (because I can't think of anything to add). Preparing to replace dpkg 1.4.1.6 (using .../archives/dpkg_1.4.1.8_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement dpkg ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.4.1.8_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/dpkg-buildpackage.1.gz', which is also in package dpkg-dev dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.4.1.8_i386.deb E: Sub-process returned an error code (1) The file seems to have moved from dpkg-dev to dpkg. The only way I could make it work is to select dpkg-dev for removal (along with everything else that depends on it), then dpkg --pending --remove, then upgrade to get the new dselect, then select dpkg-dev and your old dependent packages and add them back. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?
Koyote wrote: It would be nice if Debian had a similar one-floppy net install arrangement. Hmm, seems to me that though it may take a bit more (nine floppies for slink) the same thing is available. Shouldn't be too hard to set up an install based on three floppies (the standard resc, driver, and a very limited base ftp disk). Ah, but any more than one is a problem for a machine with a USB floppy drive! I think you're missing my point. RedHat has a floppy+CD system, with an extra floppy for PCMCIA drivers for some laptops. There's a third floppy which can do the install on its own from the net, and includes support for ftp, nfs or http install. I'm suggesting the creation of such a floppy, *separate from*, not in addition to, the base floppies (though I suppose it is an additional floppy in some ways). BUT- I'd rather have the base floppies, just in case I have to fart around with getting a dial up configured... Oh, for certain! But it's not always an option. AND, you could install everything by d/l ing on a dos partition (if you are keeping one) and read packages from there. (You could do it from floppies, but that would be a bit time consuming) Sure, if you want to forfeit the Windows EULA refund. :-P The solution on my VAIO Z505S was: Use the Debian tecra rescue disk to start the install, re-partition the disk without touching /dev/hda4 because it's used for hibernation, but labeling the future swap partition as ext2, and the future root partition as swap. (I used Debian here just because I like the partition tool better than RedHat's.) Then I booted the RedHat net install floppy, and specified root should go in the future swap partition, and swap in the future root partition (only because RedHat insists you provide swap). It recognized the onboard EtherExpressPro 100 and did a proper ftp install. But don't use the standard Server or Workstation setup, because they partition and wipe the entire drive, including that important /dev/hda4! (I accidentally used Server, so I had to backtrack, repartition, and now I can't hibernate. Oh no!) Then I downloaded the tecra rescue and drivers images into the RedHat partition, along with the base tgz file. I then booted Debian tecra rescue, and re-labeled the swap partition as root, but did not set up swap, and loaded the system from the RedHat partition. Installing the eepro100 module enabled the ethernet card, allowing dselect to get everything from the http/ftp (worked the first time- cool!). After installing, all that remained was to mkswap in the RadHat partition, edit /etc/fstab accordingly, and swapon. Debian install complete, never used Windows! But had to detour to RedHat to make it work. Hence the suggestion: a single floppy net install for Debian would be real nice. But might be not worth the effort, especially with USB support coming in soon- though that would have to be compiled in to the rescue floppy's kernel (not as a module), which would bloat it somewhat. :-( Hope this helps someone, -Adam P.
Re: Obscure ethernet/IDE trouble
W. Paul Mills wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam C Powell IV) writes: William T Wilson wrote: They probably aren't, but based on what you have to say here, I'd check and make sure that your network card isn't sharing an interrupt with your ide interface. Ahem, from the original post: Adam C Powell IV wrote: Greetings, [snip] There shouldn't be an IRQ conflict, because the net cards are on IRQs 10 and 5, and the ide0 and ide1 are at 14 and 15 respectively. I tried network stop; ifconfig eth0 down; rmmod 3c59x; modprobe 3c59x; network start but the network is still dead. It remains dead until I do a full halt and power down, after which it comes back- until the next disk access. Other ideas? Could be ioport conflict. I've seen times when boot-up messages were incorrect on IRQ settings. So it is wise to look around in /proc to verify everything. Akhaa! You are correct. IRQ 10 on one ethernet card was shared with some bridge device, and also with a PCI sound card which was installed about when this trouble started happening. Moving the cards around seems to have done the trick. The sound card still conflicts with some other bridge device, I'll try moving it around and see if that helps. (If I were a little more adventurous I'd try assigning IRQs directly in the BIOS...) *** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * * pgp public key on keyservers everywhere? */ Cool. -Adam P. (New creative .sig coming any day now...)
Re: Netscape (wishlist/ buglist such)
Ben Collins wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 01:46:51PM -0300, Guilherme Soares Zahn wrote: - Both in the browser in the mail subsystems, images should be loaded AFTER the whole text/HTML code has been loaded (and displayed) Just a comment on this one. Netscape (and other browsers) do exactly that. However, if the image tags are not accompanied by width and height parameters, Netscape can not render the page until the image headers are downloaded and known. It would be really slow for it to re-render the page after every image, since it changes the page flow and table sizes, etc.. Good point. Just an FYI, Netscape Composer actually puts the width and height parameters into the tags automatically, and doesn't do *too much* HTML reformatting (usually negligible), so an easy way to get these params in the img tags is just to open in Composer and save. BTW, in Netscape Mail, my messages are timestamped in GMT, even though my system knows that I'm in EDT. Any ideas on why? It's the only app that gets this wrong. (Well, the GMT time is right, so listing by date works properly because it corrects for timezone, but it's supposed to give the EDT time.) Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: Obscure ethernet/IDE trouble
rick wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Greetings, I'm having bizarre troubles with the base 2.1 system (2.0.36-scsimod) on an Abit BP6 dual-celeron system with Triton IDE DMA chipset and twin 3C905 ethernet cards. After my first net access (via eth0), be it ping or apt-get update or whatever, the next disk access causes an IRQ problem: hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } hda: disabled DMA hdb: disabled DMA [same for hdc and hdd] ide1: reset: success ide0: reset: success so IDE-DMA gets dropped and the interfaces reset, after which the net is inaccessible! I was getting the 'DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest' error and related hard drive problems after I selected the 'use DMA when available' when configging the kernel source. Although I don't have the flakey chipset mentioned in the help for this option, deselecting the option fixed the problems. I'm using the 2.0.36-scsimod kernel which comes with the base_2.1. I don't think this uses DMA by default. Even the newer .config files don't come with that config flag set, from what I've seen. William T Wilson wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, rick wrote: I was getting the 'DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest' error and related hard drive problems after I selected the 'use DMA when available' when configging the kernel source. Although I don't I get this all the time when I try to access a drive that is in sleep mode. It takes it a minute or two and then it comes back to life and works normally. I have an old '96 era Intel Triton motherboard. Okay, but why would my drives be sleeping? This happens during the first disk access after a net access, could the net driver be putting the drives to sleep? And why does resetting the IDE interfaces kill my networking ability? Example: I cold boot, login as root, and can ping to my heart's delight, then I dselect- update, and it manages to download the first 20K or so with no problem, then this IDE error, and the net dies! Freaky, eh? Thanks, -Adam P.
Re: Obscure ethernet/IDE trouble
William T Wilson wrote: On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Adam C Powell IV wrote: I get this all the time when I try to access a drive that is in sleep mode. It takes it a minute or two and then it comes back to life and works normally. I have an old '96 era Intel Triton motherboard. Okay, but why would my drives be sleeping? This happens during the first disk access after a net access, could the net driver be putting the drives to sleep? And why does resetting the IDE interfaces kill my networking ability? They probably aren't, but based on what you have to say here, I'd check and make sure that your network card isn't sharing an interrupt with your ide interface. Ahem, from the original post: Adam C Powell IV wrote: Greetings, [snip] There shouldn't be an IRQ conflict, because the net cards are on IRQs 10 and 5, and the ide0 and ide1 are at 14 and 15 respectively. I tried network stop; ifconfig eth0 down; rmmod 3c59x; modprobe 3c59x; network start but the network is still dead. It remains dead until I do a full halt and power down, after which it comes back- until the next disk access. Other ideas? That the IDE reset an network failure always happen at the exact same time (and I've tried about 20 times now, so yes, it's repeatable) suggests the two things might be linked... I just got a new box with a CD-R, so I'm going to try to burn a Debian image then install the CD on the dual-celeron and just install the system from that. This is getting old. If it persists with the Slink install, then I've got bigger problems. :-( Thanks very much for your efforts! -Adam P.
Re: Why use Debian? Why not Red Hat?
Richard E. Hawkins wrote: Damon dabbled, Seeing Debian is such an internet-centric (ie., apt) distribution, it would be nice if you could install the whole thing with one the one or two boot disks (I'm sure you can with redhat). Even if the boot disk had a little FTP client (like wget or curl), so you could switch to a VT and put them on that newly made EXT2 partition. This *is* the install method for FreeBSD. But they had to go to two disks about two releases ago, seems they'v accumulated too many drivers. Of course, RedHat 6.0 has a single-disk ftp/nfs/http install system... :-) Installed it on my Sony Vaio Z505S, which has a USB floppy so single-disk was mandatory; then from RedHat downloaded the Debian images and installed Debian- without ever using Windoze! Refund here we come... :-) It would be nice if Debian had a similar one-floppy net install arrangement. Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: failed network stuff
Jim Warren wrote: I did a cold boot and it fixed the problem You'ved saved me again. Zeen. No problem. :-) It's funny- I had just subscribed to debian-user that very morning, and asked one question, and for every one I ask I like to try to answer one, so yours was it. :-) On one of those Z505S(X) sites, it mentioned that Win98 leaves the card in an inconsistent state, so a warm reboot to Linux can't start the card. Some near future iteration of the eepro100 driver should fix the problem, but in the meantime, we need to cold boot after using Windoze in order to use the built-in ethernet. -Adam P.
Obscure ethernet/IDE trouble
Greetings, I'm having bizarre troubles with the base 2.1 system (2.0.36-scsimod) on an Abit BP6 dual-celeron system with Triton IDE DMA chipset and twin 3C905 ethernet cards. After my first net access (via eth0), be it ping or apt-get update or whatever, the next disk access causes an IRQ problem: hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } hda: disabled DMA hdb: disabled DMA [same for hdc and hdd] ide1: reset: success ide0: reset: success so IDE-DMA gets dropped and the interfaces reset, after which the net is inaccessible! There shouldn't be an IRQ conflict, because the net cards are on IRQs 10 and 5, and the ide0 and ide1 are at 14 and 15 respectively. I tried network stop; ifconfig eth0 down; rmmod 3c59x; modprobe 3c59x; network start but the network is still dead. It remains dead until I do a full halt and power down, after which it comes back- until the next disk access. Okay, here's another: I halt, hit reset, it boots, and now I get: eth0: Host error, FIFO diagnostic register 8000. repeated over and over, interspersed with another error message which I can't see (it's scrolling too fast) except that it ends in Temporarily disabling functions. Sometimes. Sometimes I just don't see this problem at all. But it sounds related to the other problems. I suppose I could get a CD-ROM and buy a slink CD, but that would cost more money and take more time and not necessarily solve the problem. I can't download the system of course because the net is dead. Maybe I should try installing RH6 from the net, using the more recent drivers, and then somehow get Debian with a more recent kernel into another partition... Is there a base2_2.tgz that I haven't been able to find? So that's the problem as it exists today. Now for some history. The funny thing is that this problem didn't exist until I went into the BIOS and manually autodetected the hard drive configurations. You see, I bought four identical hard drives to make a RAID5 array (haven't tried this, so don't reply on this subject, I know it might not be possible), but one autodetected slightly differently from the others. Three autodetected as 16 heads, the fourth as 255 heads, so the partition sizes weren't identical, which I think is a no-no for RAID. So, figuring the fourth was defective, I returned it for a new one (which also autodetected as 255 heads). But in the meantime while waiting for the new drive, I had installed a very nice slink/GNOME system on small identical partitions of the original three drives (so I could later stripe large partitions together). The network was fine, everything was great. Then the new drive arrived, and autodetected as 255 heads, and I was very sad. So I looked around the BIOS, where there was a hard drive autodetect function, and I found I could switch the configuration to 16 heads. Awesome! So, I did so, and re-partitioned, all the small and large partitions were the same size across all the disks, cool. It installed, it booted, it networked, it was grand. Then I upgraded to potato. (Why? I don't know, but had something to do with the newer GNOME updates.) This happened to be at the time a couple of days ago when netbase had some broken/missing dependencies, so when I rebooted, the network didn't work. (Of course, I didn't connect the two problems until the same trouble came up on my laptop...) So I decided to go into the BIOS and configure all of the IDE drives manually in the 16-head setup. This didn't solve the problem, so I figured I had a hosed system, and did a complete reinstall. Since then, I have had the problem described above. I tried undoing the 16-head config busines, but the problem persists! I unplugged the hard drives, rebooted, plugged them in, reinstalled, no luck. (I reinstalled about five times last night :-) On some of the reinstalls, I tried to use both the nfs and 3c59x modules, but this caused fatal ethernet errors before I could put in the first base system disk. But this is a separate problem. So I'm all out of ideas. Running out of hope. Help me Obi-wan Kenobe, you're my only chance. Please. Someone. I don't like having a dead system, and I've worked so hard for it- it would be a cool system if it only worked. And I'm surrounded by NT users who just buy stuff from Dell, and don't want them to laugh at me for trying to assemble the box and install Debian myself. :-) Forever grateful to whoever can help, -Adam P.
Re: [Debian: Grafikkarte] 3Dfx (MAXI Gamer 3D)
Evan Van Dyke wrote: Jean-Philippe Guirard wrote: On Linux, you will only be able to use the 3Dfx 3D accelaration with the applications specially designed to use it (Quake 2 is the only one I know of) from a VGA console. Or have an accelerated Server... don't know how accelerated Xfree's is tho. Butwait... Doesn't Mesa have 3dfx acceleration that can be compiled in? Or did I just order a handful of machines with Voodoo3s for nothing? :-{ Zeen, -Adam P.
Re: failed network stuff
Hey Jim, Did you boot Windoze since last power cycling? Win98 somehow disables the card. But you probably know that, having read the same web sites I have about the Z505S. Just wanted to say hi. :-) Zeen, -Adam P.