Re: Partition Resizing/Re-arranging
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 03:08, Michelle Storm wrote: I'd like to know if it's possible and if so, HOW, to rearrange my current partitions. Most of the data on /usr/local I am not worried about, as I have it on cd's (most of it's mp3's). My personal home directory I do not want to loose the data. The rest is only important as far as what the system needs. --snip-- What I'd like to do it combine /usr and /usr/local and add about half the space from /var to this new one. --snip-- ***If you have any suggestions about partition sizes and arrangements, Please ***tell me. Right now I'm aiming for a large partition, to store mp3's on. --snip-- The reasoning behind this is that I've found I'm using /usr/local a lot, and I am rarelyusing /usr and /var. I also have found I am using /home more, so would like to add a little more to it. Ok. For starters, what you're most likely going to want to use is parted. (apt-get install parted) The link to the homepage should be either in the package description or the documentation. I'd strongly suggest reading ALL of the documentation. One of the limitations of parted is that it cannot move the BEGINNING of an ext2 partition. From what you showed us as your current partition setup, it would appear that your actual partition table is laid out something like this: /dev/hda1 -- /boot /dev/hda2 -- something else. swap perhaps? /dev/hda3 -- / /dev/hda4 -- something else again. Windows patition? /dev/hda5 -- /tmp /dev/hda6 -- /usr /dev/hda7 -- /usr/local /dev/hda8 -- /home /dev/hda9 -- /var Now, looking at this, and assuming that is how the partitions are physically laid out on the disk, here's the verdict. You can resize /usr so that it includes the space from /usr/local. You'll lose the stuff from /usr/local however, so back it up first. You can resize /home IF you're willing to sacrifice space from /var in order to do it. Once again, you'll have to kill off /var in order to do this. (You can always recreate it later.) Now, as for recommendations, here are mine. For starters, quit using /usr/local. I prefer to have all of my users (myself included) store ALL of their personal files within their home directory. This makes managing it all much easier. Just my suggestions. Good luck. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Partition Resizing/Re-arranging
When replying either use your email client's reply to list function (if it has one) or otherwise use Reply All (and preferably take me off of the CC list so that I don't get a duplicate from the list and from you. :) This way this discussion will be available for people to peruse and hopefully learn from in the future. With that said, back to the topic at hand. :) On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 03:45, Michelle Storm wrote: this is from: df -ha --snip-- Since you already have parted installed, parted -s /dev/hda print would be the most useful. As for the /usr/local I use this to store files like mp3's and such that I want to share but not put them on a specific user. As you might have seen in Tom's reply on-list, /usr/local is usually used primarily for intalling non-packaged software. Odds are very good that when you set up your system, you set your home directories to be world readable. You can just create a new directory in your home dir for mp3's for example, and set the permissions however you wish. If you think that typing /home/yourusername/mp3s is too much for regular access, you can always either create a symbolic link to the directory, or just mount it somewhere under / using the --bind option of mount. Oh, and I'm using ext3 filesystems. Everything I say about ext2 applies to ext3 as well. With the above additional information, are your suggestions still the same? Yup, they are. could I move the /usr/local to /usr -- mv /usr/local /usr/ and as for var, can I do the same thing. Yup. Then delete the /usr/local and /var dirs... add the space to /usr and /home then recreate /var with what's left? Yup. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Partition Resizing/Re-arranging
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 04:17, Tom Cook wrote: On 0, Alex Malinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] could I move the /usr/local to /usr -- mv /usr/local /usr/ and as for var, can I do the same thing. Yup. I dunno, something there just doesn't smell quite right. I'd do something like this: $ umount /usr/local $ mkdir /mnt/temp $ mount -t ext2 /dev/hda? /mnt/temp # /dev/hda? is whatever partition /usr/local is on $ cp -rp /mnt/temp/* /usr/local $ umount /mnt/temp $ rmdir /mnt/temp Trying to copy the contents of a partition to mount point of that partition seems fraught with possibilities for disaster, to me. Do something similar for /var, then you can delete those partitions and restructure them as you wish. Good point. I didn't really think before I blurted out Yup. :) The quick-n-dirty way that I'd do it is: mkdir /usr/templocal cp -rp /usr/local /usr/templocal umount /usr/local rmdir /usr/local mv /usr/templocal /usr/local Ok, so it's not really that much quicker. 5 steps vs 6. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: x2vnc + Ctrl-Alt-Del
On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 04:33, Tom Cook wrote: There is something I'm not quite game to try though. If my mouse is currently on the NT box, and I hit Ctrl+Alt+Del, will that be transmitted to the NT box? Or will it reboot my linux box? I'd like to know before I try it. It'd be groovy if it did transmit it, because then I could set up VNC as a service on NT and hide the keyboard and mouse somewhere, instead of having to start VNC manually. Of course I can do that anyway, but if the three fingered salute is not transmitted then I can't log in :-( Not sure if there are any differences with x2x or x2vnc, but using xvncviewer Ctrl-Alt-Del gets transmitted directly with no adverse effects on the local system. If still in doubt, wait until 4:30 am local time (like where I'm at right now :) and push the buttons and see what happens. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Name resolution on internal network
Richard Kimber said: On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:31:27 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: And apparently a poor guess one at that. Just a few messages down in the list, seen in the archive here, the problem has been reported as being a Win2k DHCP server. I have this - my Netgear router seems to be configured to do this. I presume it's assuming it's working in a Win2k environment, though it claims to work with Linux (and does). Is the /000 a problem? I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. But it all appears to work. The \000 is a literal null character. The DHCP server on my network is a W2K server as well, so it would appear to be the culprit. And, come to think of it, the Woody installer uses dhcp-client I believe. And I know there has been a long discussion over pump vs dhcp-client because dhcp-client is more standards compliant while pump works better with MS DHCP servers. -Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling a kernel for another machine
I've got an Athlon XP 2000 system running as my desktop machine. I've also got a PIII 850 laptop and a p133 mail server. While recompiling the kernel on the laptop isn't too time consuming it still takes almost twice as long as it does on my desktop. And don't even get me started about the p133... :) Using the Debian Way of rolling a kernel, can I use my desktop to compile the kernel for the other machines? Are there any special flags, or is there any special optimization that is done at compile time that I might lose if I compile on a machine other than the one the kernel is going to be run on? Eventually, I'd like to do all of my compilation on my desktop, but for now I'd be content with just the kernel. Though if anyone has any general tips on the subject, they'd be very much appreciated. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: kernel need to be reconfigured for Zip drive ?
On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 15:01, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote: Hello, I just bought a Zip 100 IDE drive. I am running kernel 2.4.19 with scsi emulation support for cdrom. Just wondering if I need to turn on any options to have it support the Zip drive. dmesg says the zip is under hdd , I tried mount -t vfat -l /dev/hdd4 and mount -t vfat -l /dev/hdd have these messages wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, or too many mounted file systems (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?) in dmseg, my cdrw is under hdc but it is actually scd0. So could the zip drive has some other names under /dev ? You shouldn't need to recompile anything. Just try: mount -t vfat /dev/hdd4 /mnt/zip substituting /mnt/zip for wherever you want to mount it of course. The 4 is the important part. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Name resolution on internal network
I just helped my roommate set up Debian on his new computer and everything is working just fine. Installed using the Woody installer and immediately updated to the unstable packages. (He likes cutting edge. I like bleeding edge experimental. :) I've gone through this same process with 3 other computers in the apartment and every time I've gotten almost identical results. The problem here is name resolution. On all of my other boxen I can refer to the computers on the network on a first name basis. Unfortunately, his computer always wants a FQDN for all computers. So, whereas I can do an 'ssh gandalf' to connect to my mailserver, he has to use 'ssh gandalf.theloveshack.local'. I'm sure that there's some very simple setting somewhere that governs this, but as I have no idea where it might be, finding it is somewhat difficult. :) TIA for any help. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Name resolution on internal network
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 03:23, Leo Spalteholz wrote: On 14 Oct 2002 02:51:27 -0500 Alex Malinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, his computer always wants a FQDN for all computers. So, whereas I can do an 'ssh gandalf' to connect to my mailserver, he has to use 'ssh gandalf.theloveshack.local'. I'm sure that there's some very simple setting somewhere that governs this, but as I have no idea where it might be, finding it is somewhat difficult. :) do you have a search line in the resolv.conf? like search theloveshack.local I faintly recall reading about this. I just checked it and that was it as it turns out. Interestingly enough, the problem was not that the search line was missing, but that it had \000 appended to the end of it. Since his was the first computer that I set up using the new Woody installer (all of my others had been done with the Potato installer), could this be an installer issue? Or perhaps a debconf issue? Any suggestions on where to look for this so as to possibly file a bug report? TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Fake USB mouse
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 05:28, Tom Badran wrote: I have a usb mouse that works nicely on my thinkpad. However, as it is a laptop i dont always have it plugged in. If i start X (4.2.1) with the mouse plugged in, it works fine, and i can unplug it and plug it in again and all works perfectly. However if X is started without the mouse plugged in, when i plug the mouse in it doesnt work. Is there some way i can make X think the mouse is there when it isnt? Or some command i can add to the hotplug scripts to tell X to check the mice again? I was struggling with the same issue on my laptop as well, and the solution is rather simple as long as you don't mind a small bit of kernel bloat. Very small bit. :) Just make sure that you have UHCI or OHCI either compiled into the kernel, or loaded as a module BEFORE X starts up. X will still find the USB mouse device and enable support for it, even though the physical device isn't actually plugged in. All of the other necessary modules, like HID, don't need to be loaded until you actually plug in the device which hotplug should do for you. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Shutting down X
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 00:46, lameth wrote: How do you shut X-windows down and get to the command prompt? Depending on the response I get from another post I'm thinking of upgrading the drivers for my video card and I'm sure it wouldn't be a bad idea to turn X off while I do so. I'm sure that this isn't the right way to go about this, but since I rely on GDM to start my X sessions, I just switch to a regular tty screen and kill off gdm-binary. If you're not running gdm I'd imagine you could just kill off XFree86 with the same result. Be warned, I'm SURE that there is a cleaner way to do this, I'm just not sure what it is. :) But as far as upgrading your video drivers is concerned, I'd think that upgrading them and then restarting X via C-A-Backspace would work just fine. I roll my own kernel and recompile the driver modules by hand so I always have to reboot. But assuming that you're just going to use precompiled modules, just restarting X via the above key sequence should be enough. But IANA X Expert. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: mass installation on XBox
On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 17:02, ben wrote: On Thursday 03 October 2002 11:31 am, Jamin W.Collins wrote: On 03 Oct 2002 09:58:59 -0500 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite. As I understand it, the XBox has hardware to restrict the execution of code to that signed and authorized by MS. For the XBox to run Linux, one would first have to circumvent this mechanism. Based on a cursory look at the provided link and referenced section it would seem that the application of a mod chip would be a violation. Again, IANAL. surely, m(acro)$ would have to show that martin's manipulation of the xbox caused them real financial loss in order to prove a violation of patents or copyrights. even in order to prove that software copy-protection had been circumvented, one should have to provide evidence that copies had not only been made but also used in a fashion contrary to the conditions of the license, in order to justify a claim that that was the object of the manipulation. Unfortunately, I think that MS could make a justifiable claim that they are losing money. X-Boxen are sold below cost for maximum market pentration. The idea being that those costs and more will be recouped through game sales. If the systems in question are not being used to run games, and if no games are purchased for them, this would cause a loss to MS. A judge who's more concerned about business than plain old right and wrong (and those are too common for my liking) would probably rule in MS's favor. But, much like everyone else who has replied on this thread, IANAL. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
authentication problem (PAM?)
I'm not sure if this is really the culprit, but all fingers seem to point this way. I just did an update (using experimental, yes I know this is to be expected :) and now my GDM logins are broken. I keep getting a Authentication Error when I try to log in with any user. /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/passwd were changed during the update, but I've tried rolling back the changes with no success. Any suggestions on what to start checking? (I know this is sparse on details but I don't know where to find any more details. Any pointers are appreciated.) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: authentication problem (PAM?)
On Mon, 2002-09-30 at 12:04, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Alex Malinovich said: I'm not sure if this is really the culprit, but all fingers seem to point this way. I just did an update (using experimental, yes I know this is to be expected :) and now my GDM logins are broken. I keep getting a Authentication Error when I try to log in with any user. /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.d/passwd were changed during the update, but I've tried rolling back the changes with no success. Any suggestions on what to start checking? (I know this is sparse on details but I don't know where to find any more details. Any pointers are appreciated.) -Alex It sounds like you installed the pam from experimental as well. You don't need it, so dump it. Download the pam modules from your regular distribution (sid, I'm guessing), and install with dpkg -i (maybe --force-downgrade as well). There is a bunch of pam stuff in experimental, and from the talk on -devel, it's not so stable. Unfortunately I'm using gdm2 which depends on libpam0g = 0.75. Sid currently has 0.72-35. Is there some way to roll back to the version that USED to be in experimental? (Or at least some version after 0.75 since Sid is still as 0.72?) TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: IDE master to slave conversion
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 00:56, Neal Pollock wrote: ie. root=/dev/hda6 becomes root=/dev/hdb6 in lilo.conf. First, please set your mail client to wrap lines, preferably somewhere around 80 characters. Second, the only things that I can think of that you'd need to modify to get a clean boot would be lilo.conf and your fstab. Everything else would be case-by-case. (CD burning programs for example, assuming that your CD drives change positions as well.) Good luck. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Slow printing through CUPS
I'm using CUPS to print to a network printer attached to a Windows 2000 box. All printing is done via SMB. The big problem is that when I'm printing from one of my Debian machines, the speed is absolutely horrible. Approx 3 - 5 MINUTES per page. When printing from a Windows box, I get about 3 - 5 PAGES per minute. Is there any easy way to figure out what's wrong on the CUPS side? Or would I be better off just connecting the printer to a Debian box and running CUPS with printing over IPP? Any suggestions? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Pentium 90 64 Mo in home network - what to do with it?
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 03:34, Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote: If he uses the new machine as file/web server, the small hard disk capacity will limit it. He can limit its use for NAT/forewall etc.. and use his current server as file/web server. But then he needs to have both machines on all the time. We are trying to find a use for this machine. I had two ideas: - backup/replicate of the server (in case) - honey pot but I don't think he will be interested in it. Any other idea? I have an old P133 that functions as my web and mail server. I've also been meaning to switch the NAT routing over to it along with DHCP and DNS responsibilities but I haven't gotten around to it yet. 3 GB of disk space should be plenty enough room for a web server unless your friend wants to host 3 of the biggest porn sites in the world or something. :) The other option is, if the file serving function would just be for the local network, have the 90 set up as a file server but with an NFS connection to the other computer. I have my 133 set up as my only externally accessible FTP and SSH server, but I can use it to get information from any of the other computers on my network. Hope that helps. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
updatedb oddity
Ever since I first set up my box updatedb has always run on a semi-regular basis and kept the locate db updated. Recently, it appears to have stopped doing this. Every 8 days or so when I try to locate something, I get a warning that the db is 8 or more days old. Is there a cron job that should be doing this that I can look at, or is it handled via something else? TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
USB Zip 250 with Debian
Does anyone have any experience with the USB powered 250 MB zip drive on Debian or Linux in general? Does it work? How well? My college has just gotten rid of floppy drives in most of their computers, and that leaves me no convenient way to transfer files from their computers to my laptop. I'd like to get one of the 250 MB USB drives, but I'm not too sure on support. Btw, if anyone is using one of them with a Dell Inspiron 8000 or close to it, I'd also be interested in what the battery drain is like. TIA. -Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get? non stable debs?
On Sun, 2002-06-30 at 00:36, Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi, What would one do if they were running a stable box, and wanted a package that was only offered in testing or unstable? Would you edit your sources.list to point to testing... apt-get update apt-get install packagename edit sources.list back to stable... apt-get update Is there a better way to achieve this? Sure, just download the particular deb you want for the release that you want from packages.debian.org. Then just use dpkg to install them. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Gnome 2 Window List Applet misbehaving
I finally got a working Gnome 2 install (if this is working, I'd hate to see what they call broken :) and the window list applet is misbehaving on me. The maximum size seems to be completely irrelevant. Minimum changes the size of the applet, yet no matter how many programs I open up, it never expands at all, let alone reaches the maximum. Also, and this is much more of an annoyance, clicking on a window in the applet does NOT minimize it. I have to manually right-click on it and go to minimize. Any suggestions? I've already looked through the gconf entries and I can't find anything relevant. The only thing that I can think of is that it's related to my wm (sawfish). But since half of the sawfish options have been pulled out of sawfish-ui now, it's that much harder to track down. Any suggestions? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: what to do without gnome-session
On Sun, 2002-06-30 at 13:57, Susan Kleinmann wrote: I used to use gnome and start X with the following .xinitrc: exec gnome-session But after upgrading to gnome2, gnome-session has disappeared. What am I supposed to exec to launch gnome2 session? I tried using exec /etc/X11/Xsession You should have installed gnome-session2 when you upgraded to Gnome 2. Since GDM still hasn't been updated, I just use startx, open up an xterm, and then run gnome-session. Set everything the way you like it and make sure you save your session before you log out. When you go back in gnome-session should automatically load up with gnome. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.
On Sun, 2002-06-30 at 15:35, James D Strandboge wrote: blurred the background image. All in all, it was much, much uglier than the earlier versions of gnome-terminal. I guess you are using the full gnome2? If not, you should, and use gnome-control-center to set the fonts. Then add 'export GDK_USE_XFT=1' to one of your x startup scripts. The terminal is absolutely beautiful IMO. Having used the new terminal for two days now, and having just upgraded to Gnome 2 last night, I can now actually say that I love the new terminal. AFTER I got the configuration out of the way (which had to be done through gconftool since the preferences menu seems to be half-dead) everything went fine. The keyboard shortcuts for tabs are very nice. My only complaint now is that the tabs are still in their infancy. You can't combine two terminal windows into one window with tabs, take a tab off and create a window with it, etc. But I believe that that will come with time. Now if only I could change the keybindings for Fullscreen mode I'd be all set. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Gnome 2 Window List Applet misbehaving - Partially solved!
On Sun, 2002-06-30 at 05:30, Alex Malinovich wrote: I finally got a working Gnome 2 install (if this is working, I'd hate to see what they call broken :) and the window list applet is misbehaving on me. The maximum size seems to be completely irrelevant. Minimum changes the size of the applet, yet no matter how many programs I open up, it never expands at all, let alone reaches the maximum. Also, and this is much more of an annoyance, clicking on a window in the applet does NOT minimize it. I have to manually right-click on it and go to minimize. After some searching around, I found that the culprit was, in fact, sawfish. The problem stems from the fact that the act of clicking on the button in the window list applet gives the focus to the panel. Since the window to be minimized is no longer in focus, it doesn't get minimized. The solution is to go to Desktop Preferences - Advanced - Sawfish - Matched Windows. Click Add..., under Matchers select Name and set it to ^gnome-panel$. Click the Focus tab under Actions and make sure Never focus is checked. Hit OK, restart gnome-panel, and everything will be fine. The problem of the applet not resizing still hasn't been resolved. I've filed a bug report against it. Hopefully something will come up soon. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Completely OT: Perl progress bar/meter
I've been thinking about this for a while, and even though it's not really important, I would like to get it in. I've got a script which, on average, processes about 10,000 files each time it's run, taking a minute or two to finish. Since having no feedback is not an option, I opted to have a File X of Y finished... line printed after each file. While this gives the user feedback, it also gives him 10,000 lines of useless text on the terminal. Any ideas on how to re-write a line repeatedly and quickly in Perl? I'd prefer to do a percentage counter with, possibly, a fsck type progress bar. As far as I know Perl can't do screen refreshes, but perhaps there's a library for it out there somewhere? Any suggestions? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Resizing partitions..
On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 07:45, Andrew Biggadike wrote: From GNU's parted webpage (http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html) under Features: For ext2, ext3 and reiserfs: the start of the partition must stay fixed. This would prevent me from doing what I had intended. Does this mean I must use Partition Magic, or do you know of other Linux-side tools? (I did a quick look, but discovered nothing substantial) Yup. That's entirely true. The beginning of a ext2 partition MUST stay fixed for a RESIZE operation. A MOVE operation, on the other hand, is a completely different issue. :) Just move the partition down and then resize it up instead of the other way around. Also, someone was telling me that if I wanted to resize the / partition I would have to boot to another partition (say, a floppy) and perform the operations while / was not mounted. Does this sound accurate? Yes, that's correct. You can get a floppy boot disk with parted already on it on the parted home page. The official floppy images can be found at: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/bootdisk/ You can find lots of other ones if you do a quick google search. In an earlier post you had mentioned how odd it was to have /boot located where it was, and why - in that location - to have it at all. Those partitions were left from an earlier version of Red Hat that I was playing around with some time ago (before I installed woody), and that was its default/recommended disk setup. You may want to just create a /boot on / and get rid of that partition. That's another 50 MB you can put on your ext2 partition. (And /boot should never really get much bigger than 4-5 MB.) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Frozen system
On Sat, 2002-06-29 at 11:57, patrick wrote: --- Bob Walicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is probably a stupid question but I don't want to mess anything up. Our computer running Debian has frozen at the login screen. No keystrokes work, the mouse does nothing etc. Further you can't login from other computers. Is there a 'best' way to restart the thing? Anything better than simply hitting the 'restart' button on the box itself? I would rather not do that if I risk screwin anything up as the system seems to have simply crashed. Unless you have support for the magic SysReq key built into your kernel, I'd say you have no other option than to cold boot. If you do have magic Alt-SysReq enabled, then: Alt+SysReq-s (sync disks), Alt+SysReq-u (unmount disks), Alt+SysReq-b (reboot, issued 20 second (Bob, I hope you don't mind me using your name for this. :) I can see the headlines now: Linux user discovers hitherto unknown phenomenon June 29, 2083 New York City (AP) - It was just another ordinary day for Bob Walicki. Working on his Debian GNU/Linux system with no problems. Then, suddenly, something happened. The keyboard failed to respond. The mouse did nothing. The machine appeared to have entered a comatose state where no external stimuli were being registered. The panicked Walicki called out for help, yet no one knew what to do. Finally, the experts were called in. After a long and arduous investigation, it was discovered that this was a situation called a lockup. What causes such situations and how to best go about resolving them is still a mystery. Experts are hoping that an investigation into the ruins of a temple in Redmond, WA may yield clues. The temple was home to a cult of fanatical proprietary software developers at the turn of the century. The members of the cult all commited ritual suicide within the temple walls in 2008 as a result of a court ruling that proprietary software is evil and should be abolished. It is known that, during their exploration into the dark arts, this cult had experimented with this phenomenon called a lockup. It is further believed that they may have used this evil power to enforce a sort of control on followers pocketbooks, requiring constant updates to avoid the evil force. Meanwhile Walicki must sit and wait, hoping that his faithful machine will be alright. Friends and family are organizing a vigil over the unfortunate computer for this evening to pray for its safe recovery. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Resizing partitions..
On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 20:37, Andrew Biggadike wrote: Ah, yes, I did forget to mention: I am using NT Loader to dual boot, so I believe lilo is on /dev/hda3 (though I'm still not exactly clear about everything). Using the Windows loader shouldn't complicate matters at all, should it? Sorry I got into this thread a bit late. Since it looks like you're already using Partition Magic, just an ethical heads up for future reference. With the exception of working with NTFS partitions, GNU parted, in my experience, works much better than PM as far as resizing goes. It's also a native linux app and is GPL'd therefore making it much more attractive from the ethical standpoint. And best of all, unlike PM, it won't butcher your partition numbers. Since you're using the NT Bootloader, you don't have to worry about your MBR while resizing. Since you're just going to be working with the tail end of hda1 nothing before that should be affected. Now, you said you wanted to take space from hda1 and add it to hda3 right? In this case you're going to need to resize hda1, then either move or resize hda2 (to get it next to hda1 again) and then resize hda3. I hope that makes sense. :) As long as all of your parition numbers remain the same, this shouldn't be an issue, though I'd make sure you have a boot disk handy either way. I used to use the NT Bootloader myself, but I got tired of needing to go through two loaders to get to linux so I just put lilo in the MBR. Just add: other=/dev/hda1 label=Windows -- or whatever you want the label to be to your /etc/lilo.conf. Hope this helps. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Resizing partitions..
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 23:29, Derek Gladding wrote: The only possible weirdness I could see with your configuration is that /boot is not at the start of the disc, which is a setup I've never used. Gut instinct says it shouldn't be a problem, but I wouldn't bet my life (or critical data) on it. As ever, if it's important, back it up before tinkering with partitioning. Now that you mention it, that is rather odd. If /boot isn't at the beginning of the disk, why have it at all? The only time I use a seperate /boot partition is on old systems that have to deal with the 1024-cylinder boundary. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 11:57, Steve Juranich wrote: It grabbed this huge 100dpi font for the toolbar. There weren't nearly as many configuration options as in the older version. None of the fonts that I was able to choose from looked right. The 'translucent background' option also blurred the background image. All in all, it was much, much uglier than the earlier versions of gnome-terminal. --snip-- I just had to get this off of my chest. I'm interested in knowing if there are other debianites out there that have similar feelings about the new gnome-terminal. I'm not saying that I'm switching to KDE (yet), but I am greatly disappointed in this latest gnome app. You know, when I first read this I figured you were over-reacting. Then I updated. If anything, I'd say you showed remarkable self-restraint. I _HATE_ this. None of the terminal changes are dynamic, so I have to shut down the terminal and restart it with each change. Right now it's essentially unusable because I can't get a decent font set for it. And the actual font configuration line is nowhere in sight. All you have are a few restrictive dropdowns. I used the fixed misc font before, which was quite easy to read. Since my desktop resolution is 1600x1200 I had the font size at 20 to make it easy to read. The only size options the new terminal gives me are 12 or 13 pt. fonts. Is there a config file for this terminal anywhere that I can edit by hand so I can at least get a working font set up? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 14:11, Alan Shutko wrote: Alex Malinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a config file for this terminal anywhere that I can edit by hand so I can at least get a working font set up? ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default/%gconf.xml I'm sure there's some way to get gconftool to do it, but I couldn't figure out how. Are you having any luck getting any changes in there to actually stick? I've found the x_font line, but changing the font doesn't have any effect. Changing the font from within the terminal works after I restart the terminal, but the change is never reflected in %gconf.xml Ideas? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote: Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hdb1 * 1 2055 16506756c Win95 FAT32 (LBA) charlene:/etc# --snip-- other=/dev/hdb label=Windows98 You have to specify the partition number in the other line: other=/dev/hdb1 -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Comments on the new gnome-terminal.
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 17:39, Rick Macdonald wrote: I believe the release notes for Gnome-2 say that you have to exit to get changes to take effect, and that this will be fixed for the next (minor) release. Have a look at the release notes. They say the purposely removed many configuration options throughout Gnome. Exiting the terminal had no effect. I haven't tried restarting gnome itself however. I did, however, find a solution that works for me at least. I had tried doing the changes by hand with no luck, as well as using gconftool with no luck. All I had to do was use gconftool-2 and all is well now. Since gnome-terminal is a Gnome 2 application I guess it needs the Gnome 2 gconftool? Hopefully this'll help someone else as well. And here's a page with some decent documentation on gconf in general: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 19:30, David Richmond wrote: On Friday 28 June 2002 03:50 am, nick lidakis wrote: I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to install them both as master and slave. [snip] Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on the primary master. My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary --snip-- I think that's only relevant if you install 98 first. I dual boot 98 and linux on my laptop, and 98 is on hda2 while linux is hda1. The 98 bootloader probably wouldn't like that, but since I'm using lilo, the 98 bootloader never comes into play. I don't know how it reacts to being on a slave drive though as I've only got a single HD. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Resizing partitions..
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 20:16, Andrew Biggadike wrote: What exactly do you mean by butcher your partition numbers? I haven't done it yet and might like to try parted - not necessarily for ethical reasons (though I certainly understand what you're saying), but just to learn more about linux. My main concern is that I might mess it up, and the other way seems to be easier. I don't know if this is still a problem, but the last time I used Partition Magic (I believe it was 5.0) it did everything that I wanted with no problem. Unfortunately, since it didn't ask me if I wanted partitions at the beginnings or ends of free space, I was left with a partition table vastly different from what I had planned out. Then again, I suppose that's more user error than anything. :) parted is very safe. And it's actually quite easy to use. If you can use ftp (or any other pseudo-shell program) you'll be right at home in parted. And if you want to learn more about linux, using a Windows program such as PM won't help matters much will it? :) Hmm, I guess that would prevent me from having to `dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1` everytime I recompile the kernel, no? After I add those lines, would all I have to do is `lilo -b /dev/hda`? Exactly. And, actually, if you roll your own kernel The Debian Way, you won't even need to do that much. The package does it for you. You don't have it so bad now since your Windows partition is FAT32, so you can at least write the bootsect.lnx to it from linux. I had an NTFS partition, so I had to boot into windows anytime I recompiled my kernel. I'll never be able to get that Windows startup sound out of my head. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Canonical Way to install Java
On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 12:03, Craig Dickson wrote: The Java you get from Sun will require you to have the version of the C runtime library that it was compiled for, which is older than what Woody or Sid use at this point. (I don't recall offhand what libc Potato uses.) It's available in the oldlibs section, however, so you can get the Sun packages to work without too much trouble. I think libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 is the one you need. Of course, Sun doesn't offer .debs, so you'll be working outside the Debian package system; annoying, but doable. Even though this probably isn't the safe way of doing things, rather than installing old versions of the libs I just create symbolic links from the new versions. My computer hasn't blown up yet... :) But if you're going to be using Java for anything serious (not just pet projects like I do) I'd suggest either blackdown or Sun's distrib with the old C libs. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Gnome 2.0 Released
Fresh from slashdot, Gnome 2.0 is released. Anyone care to place bets on when we'll see debs of it? :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Gamepad for sid?
On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 16:27, Steve Juranich wrote: Hi there. I'm sick of trying to play Yoshi's Island in zsnes on my stupid keyboard. I'd like to get a legitimate game pad and do this right. Problem is, I've spent the last hour STFW for info on all of the USB game pads out there for linux, and I haven't found anything definitive. I've found some things that look promising for the some of the stuff out there, but like I said, nothing definitive. I'm not married to the idea of a USB game pad (in fact, I'd prefer not to go the USB route), so if somebody out there has a suggestion for a good quality, currently available game pad that is known to work with sid, please let me know. Well, since you're playing a SNES game, how about playing on a SNES pad? :) Soldering directions: http://digitalpuppy.tripod.com/snes_control.htm Linux driver support: http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.4/doc/joystick-parport.txt.html Good luck. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
OT: Odd Perl (rm?) behavior
I've been pounding my head against the wall for the past hour or so
trying to get this figured out to no avail. I wrote a simple Perl script
to convert filenames with spaces into either filenames with spaces
escaped or quoted filenames. While STDOUT produces the expected results,
when the output is fed to another command (namely rm) the results are
odd. First, here's the Perl script in all its complexity:
-- Perl --
#!/usr/bin/perl
@files = STDIN;
foreach (@files) {
chomp;
if ($ARGV[0] ne --quote) {
$_ =~ s/ /\\ /g;
}else {
$_ = \.$_.\;
}
$_ = $_. ;
}
print @files;
-- End Perl --
If I just do something like:
ls /mydir |spcgobble.pl
I get the proper output. Namely a file called the party.txt will come
out as the\ party.txt suitable for ingestion by rm.
However, if I expand the idea a bit and do:
rm -v `ls /mydir |spcgobble.pl`
I get error messages for files the and party.txt, even though rm -v
the\ party.txt works just fine.
In much the same way, rm -v the party.txt, works just fine, but using
the --quote option in the script which produces the party.txt on
STDOUT, I get an error message about the not being found and party.txt
not being found. Any suggestions?
-Alex
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Re: OT: Odd Perl (rm?) behavior
On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 23:07, Alex Malinovich wrote: However, if I expand the idea a bit and do: rm -v `ls /mydir |spcgobble.pl` I get error messages for files the and party.txt, even though rm -v the\ party.txt works just fine. Whoops. The error messages are for files the\\ and party.txt. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: Odd Perl (rm?) behavior
On Mon, 2002-06-24 at 23:20, Hubert Chan wrote: Alex == Alex Malinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Alex However, if I expand the idea a bit and do: Alex rm -v `ls /mydir |spcgobble.pl` It works if you use xargs instead. # ls /mydir | spcgobble.pl | xargs rm -v Using xargs works for me if I use the --quote option for the script. But the default behavior still produces \\ instead of a single \. Though, as I've said, just letting the script print to screen shows only a single \. Any suggestions? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: beep unconditionally
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 00:39, Dan Jacobson wrote: How does one get a beep unconditionally from that little speaker be it from a batch job or whatever. Assume I can give a valid $XAUTHORITY. I used to do the below, but now: $ echo -e \\a /dev/console bash: /dev/console: Permission denied Now only root can make it beep. Without resorting to root powers, what can one do? apt-cache show beep Sound like what you're looking for? No pun intended... oh hell who am I kidding, of course it was intended! :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: touchpad on laptop
On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 23:09, Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I've gotten debian installed on my Canon Innovabook 457CDS, but I don't know how to get the touchpad working... is there some sort of generic touchpad device? I tried using /dev/psaux just for fun but that didn't work, couldn't find any information about this in the laptop howto. Most laptop touchpads nowadays are supported by the regular PS/2 drivers. Try PS/2 or ImPS/2. The actual device output should be showing up on /dev/psaux. If that doesn't work, you can try enabling USB support in the kernel on the off chance that the touchpad is a USB device. (very unlikely) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Solutions for booting dual OS (separate HDs)
On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 06:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip AFAIK lilo will also overwrite win2k boot manager in a way that will make poor little win sulk and not ever be found again. So answer to any of the three below will solve my problems, II. or III. being more robust I suppose. snip Not entirely true. LILO will overwrite the w2k boot manager, but you can still boot into w2k using LILO. You can just set up LILO to be your primary boot manager and boot into Linux or w2k. In your /etc/lilo.conf just add: other=/dev/hda1 (assuming w2k is on disk a, partition 1) label=W2K Is there such a thing as relatively foolproof and simple way (aside from BIOS ;) ) to install an boot manager that does not touch/corrupt/overwrite the Win2k? Any links and experiences welcome. III. Now as I write this I started to wonder if it would be possible to add the lead to linux boot record into windows BOOT.INI ? For win2k boot.ini says: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT=Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional /fastdetect Anyone ever try it 'the windows way'? This is how I USED to do things, but as I found myself using Linux more and more and Windows less and less I did the above. If you want to do this, you can set up the NT bootloader to load LILO which will, in turn, load Linux. If you want a link, here it is: http://www.google.com/search?q=win2k+linux+boot+dd Otherwise, for the quick and dirty instructions: Make sure that you DO NOT install LILO into the MBR. If possible, make sure that your W2K boot partition is FAT32. Compile in VFAT support into your Linux kernel. Mount your W2K partition (for this example we'll mount it on /w2k). Assuming that your Linux partition is /dev/hdb1 (change as appropriate below) dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1 of=/w2k/linux.bin Then open up your /w2k/boot.ini and add a line such as: c:\linux.bin=Debian Now, if your W2K partition HAS to be NTFS (mine did because I was concerned about at least pretending that my stuff in w2k was secure :), then you won't be able to do it so easily. If you have a FAT32 parition available somewhere then mount it, put linux.bin on it, boot into w2k, and then copy linux.bin to your c: drive. Keep in mind that anytime you have to re-run LILO (e.g. after a kernel update) you'll have to redo the dd above. If your w2k boot partition isn't FAT32 (like mine wasn't) you'll see why the first LILO-based alternative is a much better idea IMHO. :) Good luck. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: mirror, the perl script mirroring package
On Wed, 2002-06-19 at 15:02, Walter Tautz wrote: I am attempting to setup a local private mirror of debian using the perl script package. It has run for several days. It quits from time to time and waits for the next initiation event from crontab, but it can't seem to clear its queue of requests to set up softlink into the pool. I've tried pointing it to a couple of different debian mirrors and get the same results for both. I would suggest using the scripts on the main debian site. Look for info about how to mirror the site. I prefer using rsync search the site for 'mirror' or just go to: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror I looked through most of the official ways of doing things (including the mirror script) and ended up writing my own because I didn't like the way the others were set up. (And because I needed an excuse to brush up on my Perl. :) I just wanted to mirror unstable, and I wanted to minimize the space needed. It's not terribly fault-tolerant, but it's VERY easy to debug. After the initial mirroring is done updates are usually done within 3 - 4 hours over a DSL line. (768 Kbps) If you can't get mirror working and want to try it just let me know. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Mozilla feature?
On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 15:35, Florentin Ionescu wrote: Opera has a cool feature that allows you, at start time, to open sites previously you had opened. Does anybody have ideeas haw to make mozzila to do same thing ? Yup, it's called galeon. :) Galeon is a Mozilla-based browser that has all the functionality of Opera and then some. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Apache, DHCPd, etc, on a low-end machine
I'm looking to migrate away from Microsoft products completely, and one large step in that direction is to kill off my current primary server. It's a p II 350 running W2K Advanced Server running IIS for the web server and also handling DNS, DHCP, and NAT. It's also running as the primary print server and the local Domain Controller. Once I kill it off, I'll have no need for a DC of any sort so that's not an issue (though I understand that I could configure Samba to function as a DC if the need arises). However, I cannot take the server out of commission all at once. Keeping NAT, DNS, and DHCP up and running is critical, and keeping a web server up would be a good thing. I currently have an old P133 running Woody functioning as my mail server. I'd like to migrate these services onto the 133 and take them off the W2K box one at a time until the W2K box is left doing nothing at which point I can wipe it and put Woody on. I have no doubt that the 133 can handle DHCP and DNS and NAT (if I can get the two NICs in there to cooperate so that I can set up ipmasquerading). However, can it effectively run Apache? I'd only be dealing with about 100 hits per day (most of those internal) but there's a lot of Perl scripts that get run regularly. Can the machine handle that acceptably? (i.e. without showing too much slowdown in regular use) (It won't be running any GUI apps whatsoever, so the only things running will be the various daemons and an instance of emacs.) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Size of debian?
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 11:36, Jamin W.Collins wrote: First, please don't reply to an existing thread to start a new one. On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Rob Ransbottom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I determine space required mirror the source and binary-i386 aspects of stable, unstable and testing? I mirror the above for both i386 and PPC archs and my mirror is ~20 gig. In the relatively recent past, I've created sub mirrors of just the i386 testing branch to take with me for installations at different locations and, IIRC, these were ~9 Gigs. My unstable mirror for i386 is currently ~5 GB. I've got a Perl script that I wrote that scans through the Packages.gz for the different distributions and just adds up all of the file sizes. The format of Packages.gz is straightforward enough, so writing it isn't really much of a problem. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: Perrun virus: Is this Windoze only?
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 14:03, Paul E Condon wrote: Today's Sacramento Bee contains a news report about a new virus, called Perrun, that infects JPEG files. (Yes, data files) Does anyone on this list know what this is? and is it a problem for Debian GNU/Linux? There's a good slashdot article about this: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/14/1343223 -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Changing refresh rate in X
On Sun, 2002-06-09 at 13:24, Brian Dessent wrote: Nicos Gollan wrote: I've got my monitor connected to my laptop so I can work at my desk easier. The laptop's native resolution is 1400x1050 which my monitor ... Try xvidtune (I don't know what package that's in). It produces modelines from a relatively friendly GUI. Or xf86cfg (if you are running XFree 4.x) has similar functionality. I've tried both and neither is doing what I need. I've managed to get the resolution switched to 1280x1024 at which I KNOW I can do 85+ Hz, but it just isn't happening. I'm beginning to think that it's an issue with the program I'm using to get VGA out to cooperate. (atitvout) It seems to only want to do 60Hz no matter what. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Changing refresh rate in X
I've got my monitor connected to my laptop so I can work at my desk easier. The laptop's native resolution is 1400x1050 which my monitor can display, but only at 65Hz. I've tried adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a resolution, but since the modeline is explicitly defined (I got the XF86Config-4 straight from Dell) the change doesn't seem to work. Is there an easy way I can modify refresh rates in X without having to write mode lines manually? TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
ntpd not doing anything
Unless I'm missing something obvious, I don't think that ntpd is really doing anything on my laptop. It runs just fine, I can use ntpdc to get all sorts of nice statistics, and it recognizes the ntp server on my LAN with no problem. However, it refuses to actually update my system clock. I've cut out all of the fluff in my config file so that it now contains only the following: --- logfile /var/log/ntpd driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift statsdir /var/log/ntpstats enable ntp disable auth server 192.168.0.1 --- I've tried setting the system clock to be anywhere from 2 minutes to a day and a half off from the actual time being reported by the ntp server, yet nothing happens. Interestingly, ntpdate works just fine. Any suggestions? -Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-gui battery app?
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Dave Price wrote: anyone know of a battery status program that is not GUI-based? I don't know of any, but you can make one easily. Just check /proc/... battery? Sorry, not at my laptop at the moment so I'm not sure of the entry name. Might be under apm instead of battery. Maybe a shell script that beeps the speaker 3 times when you get to some % of battery life left? -Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on an old system
Thanks to everyone who's already responded. Rather than quote 5 differenet messages, I'll just spit out the questions here. While a GUI would be nice in terms of ease of use, the primary use is going to be in a muffler shop, so a mouse wouldn't survive long anyway. That leaves me with ncurses and from what I've read on here so far, it sounds like that should run ok, even on the 486 with 8 megs of RAM. The remaining question is what can I do in terms of data storage/access. MySQL would be easy enough to work with, but what about performance? Can the systems handle MySQL? Unfortunately, my data storage experience is limited so I'm looking at either a premade solution (e.g. MySQL) or a flat file. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
java shortcoming in Mozilla
I'm running the blackdown distribution of the JDK (1.3.1) and using the Mozilla plugin. I can't quite figure out why, but for some reason threads seem to be terminating prematurely. Most simple java apps work fine, but trying to run any of the popcap games (www.popcap.com) results in the loader portion of the program loading and then immediately terminating. This is a problem since the loader portion of the program is responsible for actually downloading the full game. After going through the java2 plugin control panel I've failed to find anything useful. The .java_wrapper script has a promising entry referring to the J2SE_PREEMPTCLOSE environment variable. Unfortunately, .java_wrapper doesn't appear to be called by the java plugin. Any suggestions? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Fetchmail
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 10:06, Keith O'Connell wrote: scheduling. What I want to know is, how often does it download mail, and how can I change this time gap? I don't desperately want to change it as it is working fine, I just want to know how it works. man fetchmail Reaad the DAEMON MODE section. I book on to. What I want to know is, is this the right way to do it? What is considered the correct/safest/best way to share mail for users across a number of machines? Sounds like IMAP is what you're looking for. Try: apt-cache show uw-imapd apt-cache show cyrus-imapd Or: apt-cache search imapd That should give you all of the package info you need. Do a google search for more information on the protocol itself. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: java shortcoming in Mozilla
On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 15:46, Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: It works mostly well in Mozilla 1.0RC2 from Sid (Atomic something-or-other didn't work; everything else I tried did). ... BTW; about:plugins reports that I've got the Java(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS plugin. Mine is reporting the same version of Java. I WAS using Mozilla 0.9.8 so I just upgraded but still no luck. I get the loading screen just fine, and then it just stops. The progress indicator doesn't budge. Quite an annoyance. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Debian on an old system
I was approached today by a guy wanting me to write an inventory control/work order system to use in his muffler shop and used car dealership. The problem being, the computers that he has available are 2 486s and a Pentium Pro. Obviously, he's not going to be getting a worthwhile graphical app running on this, but will the systems be able to handle something along the lines of an ncurses app with maybe a MySQL db for data storage? Would there be a better approach to this? Or is the best approach to tell him that he needs to dish our a couple hundred $ for a couple of old PII 233s or something. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: GUI front-end for writing CD audio to CD-R?
On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 13:56, Mike Frisch wrote: Can somebody recommend a decent GUI front-end for writing CD audio to CD-R? Essentially a wrapper for cdrecord and some utility to convert MP3 to WAV. I am looking for something easy to use and reliable. Sounds like xcdroast is what you're looking for. apt-cache show xcdroast -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
X forwarding dead in Sid
I've been using X forwarding between my 2 Sid computers for a while now with no problem. However, at some point since my last update (about 3 weeks ago) X forwarding over SSH seems to have died. I run ssh with the -X option, and I've checked the xserverrc on both systems to make sure that -nolisten tcp isn't in there. Everything SEEMS to be set up ok, yet X forwarding isn't working. $DISPLAY isn't being set when I SSH in, though it used to before. I haven't tried setting it manually yet because, I hate to admit it, I'm not exactly sure of the format for a remote X $DISPLAY. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Setting effective UID for a shell script
How can I set the effective UID for a shell script? I've got a script which checks if xscreensaver is running and if not, starts it and then activates it. However, the script always gets run as root (it's being run as an APM script). This doesn't work if I'm logged in as myself since xscreensaver will think it's dealing with root. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Shell script anomaly SOLVED
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 06:53, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sure. If your script is called something like check-xscreensaver the grep finds the script itself. Why not use pidof xscreensaver, see man pidof(8) That was it! The script name was 40xscreensaver. I remembered to put in the [x] so that the grep command wouldn't show up, but I hadn't thought of the script that it was being called from. Thanks. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Upgradeing my TiVo using Debian Woody system?
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 15:20, stan wrote: I have just ordered a TiVo Serries 2, and I plan on upgrading it by adding an additional 120G drive, and conecting it to my network. I found some food directions on the disc upgrade at: http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/ But it's all absed upon the assumption that you are doing it with a windoze computer. Since I don't have such a beast, I would like to do this using my Debian Woody machine. Is this possible? If so can anyone point me to a howto? I haven't actually done this myself yet (waiting for my tivo to come in :) but from all of the directions that I've read it looks like all of the work takes place on the tivo itself once you get the serial console set up. Surely connecting 2 Linux systems together can't be any more work than connecting a windoze system to a linux system. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script SOLVED
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 09:15, Kirk Strauser wrote: My new favorite answer is use sudo. It lets you give certain users permission to execute certain programs (including scripts) as particular other user, with or without prompting for a password. It's very well supported across a range of Unices, so once you learn how to configure it, you can use it on pretty much every system you'll ever run. I ended up using su -c for this particular case since the script is already running as root but now that I know about sudo I've got a dozen other scripts that I can finally write. Thanks! :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Shell script anomaly
I'm sure that I might be missing something obvious here, but after a few hours I still haven't figured it out. I'm writing a script to detect whether xscreensaver is running and activate it if it is. If not, it launches the daemon first and then activates. From the command line, the following returns the correct exit codes: if ps -A |grep -q [x]screensaver; then xscreensaver-command -activate else xscreensaver xscreensaver-command -activate; fi However, if I put that exact line into a shell script and run it, the if ALWAYS gets evaluated as true. Any ideas? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Shell script anomaly
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:06, Craig Dickson wrote: I cannot reproduce your symptoms. Whether I type your code in at the shell prompt or run it in a script, it always behaves correctly. You don't say what shell you're using (or what version); my tests were performed using the version of bash 2.05a.0(1)-release from the Sid package bash_2.05a-11. GNU bash, version 2.05a.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu) as returned by bash --version I just tried something else and now it's even stranger. If I don't specify a shell in the script, it works correctly. However using #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash results in errors. That's even stranger than the exit code being returned incorrectly. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: creating an executable
n Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:37, Justin News wrote: I do get a hello file with 755 permissions so everything looks fine. However, when i try to run the program i get the error msg saying: bash: hello: command not found Has anyone else come across this problem? Am I missing a library or something? I made to sure to install the entire C and C++ development packages when installing Debian. It would be great if I could get this fixed so I can start doing some coding. I hate to ask, but you are remembering to specify the path when executing the file correct? i.e. ./hello Also, what fs is the partition its stored on. I've found that when using vfat it's impossible to create executable files, I have to create them on an ext[23] partition in order to execute. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ATI video out on laptop?
On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 00:58, Michael D. Crawford wrote: I pretty much assumed I'd never get this working under Linux but I recently saw a post somewhere that referred to having video out with an ATI chip working. Is this a possibility? Yup. It works almost great. :) There's a few little quirks, but it works. You can get all the info at: http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/lennart/projects/atitvout/ I've used mine for watching VCDs with no problem. As long as your DVD player works ok in Linux you should be all set to go. Good luck. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian packages MD5 sums
On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 13:54, Scott Henson wrote: Try debsums. Not all packages have it, but some do. Also a few weeks ago there wa You can get the MD5 sums for the current packages by checking Packages.gz for the appropriate distribution. This is relatively reliable for Woody and Potato, but Sid changes so often that it's only really useful immediately after you update. Just connect to one of the debian mirrors and go to /debian/dists/distrib/main/architecture/Packages.gz for example: /debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz or /debian/dists/testing/main/binary-sparc/Packages.gz -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Can I use Debian for...
On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 13:24, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: I need a recent, stock kernel to use the drivers for the Ultracam with Linux. I want to have a Netmeeting compatible videoconferencing client GnomeMeeting should be what you're looking for here. It's not 100% compatible, but it's close. (so my friends can contact me reliably) and a MS Messenger compatible IM client - preferably one that also allows the voice connection with I'd personally recommend Gaim. It allows you to connect to MSN Messenger, AIM, ICQ, and Yahoo services all in one client. No voice connections or filetransfers however. Jabber clients will also allow you to connect to MSN but with the same limitations listed above. I believe I'd be happy with Gnome or KDE. I've the most experience with KDE, but I'm not using either while I'm hanging out in Win2k. IMO, KDE is too Windows-ish. I prefer Gnome. But everyone's preferences are different so just take whatever you're most comfortable with. Note that if you do KDE with GnomeMeeting you'll probably need to install quite a few Gnome libraries to get GnomeMeeting to run. Can anyone verify that I can do these things in Debian, and which distribution I will need to use? These are the last barriers keeping me from switching to booting Linux first choice. Debian will allow you to do all of the above. If you're not comfortable with doing a LOT of reading and a LOT of work with software and configuration, you might be better off with RedHat or Mandrake. But once everything is set up and configured, Debian is, IMO the best distrib to use. (Primarily due to apt.) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Two users writing to the same file at the same time.
On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 01:55, AE Roy wrote: I've set up my system with 15 computers and 60 users so that they have a directory where they all can share files, under /home/staff, I have them belongign to the group teacher who is the owner of /home/staff, and the GUID is set on /home/staff. And I have a problem; If two teachers deceides to work on the same file at the same time, then all changes made by the first to exit will be lost, without him noticing. This situation happens rarly, and when it does they don't know who's to blame (me) and so I've manged to overcome the problem, but I need to solve this. I know CVS, but thats not an option. People I've talked to that know MS say that in MS under the same situation, you'd gett a warning when someone already had that file open, does anything similar exist for linux? They all use OpenOffice.org to write these files. I'd imagine that OpenOffice has some sort of mechanism built in to handle these sorts of situations (I don't use OpenOffice myself), but in case it doesn't, I'd suggest looking at lockfile. You'd have to handle the opening and closing of the files through a script for this to be effective however. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Samba alternative
I used to have a full-blown Windows network set up at home with 5 PCs. As I started converting them to Linux I would set up Samba on each machine so they could still talk with the other Windows machines. At this point, I only have ONE fulltime Windows box running, and that's my local PDC/NAT router/Web server/DNS server/DHCP server. I'm in the process of migrating services off of that box so that I can switch to a fully free (as in speech) apartment. (At least as far as OS's go. I still use a few non-free packages.) I've heard that SMB isn't really the greatest protocol for file sharing between systems on a LAN. I've also heard good things about Coda and a few strong-points about NFS. What would you all suggest? Sticking with Samba is easy enough as it's already configured, but if it's not the best thing that I could be using, I'd rather switch to the best. TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Samba alternative
I used to have a full-blown Windows network set up at home with 5 PCs. As I started converting them to Linux I would set up Samba on each machine so they could still talk with the other Windows machines. At this point, I only have ONE fulltime Windows box running, and that's my local PDC/NAT router/Web server/DNS server/DHCP server. I'm in the process of migrating services off of that box so that I can switch to a fully free (as in speech) apartment. (At least as far as OS's go. I still use a few non-free packages.) I've heard that SMB isn't really the greatest protocol for file sharing between systems on a LAN. I've also heard good things about Coda and a few strong-points about NFS. What would you all suggest? Sticking with Samba is easy enough as it's already configured, but if it's not the best thing that I could be using, I'd rather switch to the best. TIA. -Alex p.s. I sent this message 3 hours ago and it still hasn't made it to the list. I apologize if it's a duplicate. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Need utility to search for duplicate files
My desktop system is used by 3 users, each having a few thousand files in their home directory. Since we primarily have the same interests, there are a LOT of duplicates to be found. Earlier I found an mpeg movie that all three of us had that was 120 MB. That's 240 MB of wasted space. Unfortunately, the files won't always have the same filename. Does anyone know of a utility that can go through and search for files with the same size and/or date and delete them or notify me? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 21:42, Daniel Toffetti wrote: Hi ! How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the \n character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings. flip is your friend: apt-get install flip lots of really useful command-line options. (You can even flip binary files if you're so inclined.) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
LILO dualbooting Sid and XP
I've been using the NT bootloader for as long as I've been using Debian to handle switching between my M$ OS's and Linux. However, since I've switched to using Debian 364 days a year, this is no longer working for me. My XP boot partition is NTFS. This means that any time I update my kernel or update LILO I have to reboot into XP so that I can copy my linux.bin to my boot drive. It's finally gotten to be enough of a hassle that I've decided to do something about it. My boot partition is hda1 (NTFS), and my root partition is hda2 (ext3). Currently, my linux boot info is in /boot. What's the best way of going about using LILO as my bootloader instead of the NT bootloader while still having the option of booting into XP? -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: LILO dualbooting Sid and XP
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 06:30, D. wrote: Alex, I think that this is what your looking for. http://www.computing.net/howto/advanced/linuxnt/ hth Don I actually ran across this article last night while I was doing a google search before I actually sent this message. Unfortunately, what it describes is essentially the same setup that I'm using now. What I'd prefer to do is to only have LILO load at system startup. If the NT loader is called AFTER LILO that's fine, but I want to have LILO actually managing my MBR. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Logitech Quickcam
On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote: Is this one of the USB quickcams? If so, how'd you get it working? I've been using mine on a 2.4.17 kernel for a few weeks now with no problems. Just compile your kernel with Video4Linux and USB support, and then get the appropriate drivers from http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net . -Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gaim trouble
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 10:58, Sridhar M.A. wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:53:55AM -0600, Kent West wrote: GAIM from Sid works fine for me. You might try unloading/reloading the libyahoo plugin. No luck. It is still the same way. Make sure that your server name is set properly. The default setting for the Yahoo server for me didn't work. I used the one that I found in the Yahoo for Linux settings (cs.yahoo.com) and used that and have had no problems since. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Logitech Quickcam
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 09:16, Sridhar M.A. wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:04:38AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: I've been using mine on a 2.4.17 kernel for a few weeks now with no problems. Just compile your kernel with Video4Linux and USB support, and then get the appropriate drivers from http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net . What about the colour of the images? Are you happy with them? Though the image quality (sharpness) is better than that in the windoze, the colour/brightness is not good. Under gqcam, whatever I do with the controls, nothing affects the image :-( The color is a bit washed out for me, but it's no worse than it was in Windows. I've been using xawtv so far and everything works fine. Image capture, movie capture, etc, all work. The only annoying thing is a colored band at the bottom of the screen. It doesn't show up in pictures but it's there when I'm viewing realtime output from the cam. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: GeForce 2 MX200 and XF86 4 hard lockup
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 14:37, Jerome Acks Jr wrote: Does /var/log/XFree86.0.log list any error messages? Since you have not yet configured USB, you may need to include Option AllowMouseOpenFail true in ServerFlags section Assuming F86Config-4 should be setup to use nVidia driver, a couple of changes need to be made: Ok, I went ahead and configured USB, and made all the necessary changes to XF86Config-4 (that I know of at least). I've spent nearly a week troubleshooting, and the only progress that I've made is getting a few extra lines to show up in my XF log. Below is my XF log as well as the XF config that I'm currently using. Pardon the size of the message from the full contents of both files but I want to make sure that I don't leave out anything important. I've separated log and config with to lines of asterisks. () Thanks for any help. -Alex --- begin XFree86.0.log --- This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 21 December 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Fri Mar 29 01:49:55 2002 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor Generic Monitor (**) | |--Device Generic Video Card (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) Option XkbRules xfree86 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) Option XkbModel pc104 (**) XKB: model: pc104 (**) Option XkbLayout us (**) XKB: layout: us (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi (==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (++) using VT number 7 (WW) Cannot open APM (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x800023c0, mode1Res1 = 0x8000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card 1043,8033 rev 02 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1043,8033 rev 22 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:04:1: chip 1106,0571 card , rev 10 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 10 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 10 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:04:4: chip 1106,3057 card , rev 30 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 11ad,c115 card 11ad,c001 rev 25 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8040 rev 08 class 04,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:0a:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 08 class 09,80,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 105a,0d30 card 105a,4d33 rev 02 class 01,80,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0111 card , rev b2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) LoadModule: scanpci (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 (II) UnloadModule: scanpci (II) Unloading
GeForce 2 MX200 and XF86 4 hard lockup
I'm trying to set up Debian on a friend's computer since he's finally decided to give up the evil M$ empire. He's got a GeForce 2 MX200 hooked up to a Gateway FPD1500 flat-screen. (TFT) I compiled 2.4.17 for him and got the latest NVidia drivers (2802) and using the latest Sid packages. If I start it up using the nv driver, the screen flickers for a while and then dies. If I start it up using the nvidia driver, everything loads fine and I get the NVidia logo on the screen. Then the computer just hard locks. Everything dies. No network connectivity, keyboard is dead, no HD activity, etc. Very annoying. I've attached a copy of the... dammit... my eks key just died on my laptop... hmm... eks as in F86. Well, I've included a copy of F86Config-4. I commented out the mouse lines since he's using a MS optical USB mouse and I haven't configured USB yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Ale ---Begin F86Config-4--- ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.) # # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes # before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the # ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below. Section Files FontPathunix/:7100# local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi EndSection Section Module LoadGLcore Loadbitmap Loaddbe Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadpex5 Loadrecord Loadspeedo Loadtype1 Loadvbe Loadxie EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection #Section InputDevice # Identifier Configured Mouse # Driver mouse # Option CorePointer # Option Device/dev/input/mice # Option Protocol ImPS/2 # Option Emulate3Buttons true # Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 #EndSection Section Device Identifier Generic Video Card Driver nv EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor HorizSync 30-57 VertRefresh 43-72 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Generic Video Card Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 1 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard # InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection ### END DEBCONF SECTION ---End F86Config-4--- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
GeForce 2 MX200 and XF86 4 hard lockup
I'm trying to set up Debian on a friend's computer since he's finally decided to give up the evil M$ empire. He's got a GeForce 2 MX200 hooked up to a Gateway FPD1500 flat-screen. (TFT) I compiled 2.4.17 for him and got the latest NVidia drivers (2802) and using the latest Sid packages. If I start it up using the nv driver, the screen flickers for a while and then dies. If I start it up using the nvidia driver, everything loads fine and I get the NVidia logo on the screen. Then the computer just hard locks. Everything dies. No network connectivity, keyboard is dead, no HD activity, etc. Very annoying. I've attached a copy of the... dammit... my eks key just died on my laptop... hmm... eks as in F86. Well, I've included a copy of F86Config-4. I commented out the mouse lines since he's using a MS optical USB mouse and I haven't configured USB yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Ale ---Begin F86Config-4--- ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. # (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.) # # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes # before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the # ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below. Section Files FontPath unix/:7100 # local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi EndSection Section Module Load GLcore Load bitmap Load dbe Load ddc Load dri Load extmod Load freetype Load glx Load int10 Load pex5 Load record Load speedo Load type1 Load vbe Load xie EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection #Section InputDevice # Identifier Configured Mouse # Driver mouse # Option CorePointer # Option Device /dev/input/mice # Option Protocol ImPS/2 # Option Emulate3Buttons true # Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 #EndSection Section Device Identifier Generic Video Card Driver nv EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor HorizSync 30-57 VertRefresh 43-72 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Generic Video Card Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth 16 SubSection Display Depth 1 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 4 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard # InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection ### END DEBCONF SECTION ---End F86Config-4--- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Installing Debian
On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 21:00, John Lynch wrote: Hello everyone --big snip-- I would appreciate it a lot if someone was able to give me easy to understand instructions. or a website with easier instructions if no-one can be bothered. If you go to www.debian.org and look around for a while, you'll see all the stuff there that you need for installation. If you have a CD burner I'd suggest just downloading some CD images and installing from those. There's also extensive help documentation available on the site for the install process. Now, for my personal recommendation: If you have access to another computer, or an old computer that no one really cares much about (say a P133 or so) try installing Debian on there. That way, if you screw something up it really doesn't matter. Then once you're comfortable, go ahead with your primary machine. Now I will warn you. If/when you decide to install Debian on your primary system, be careful when you partition your hard disk as you can VERY easily lose data. Your best bet would be to get a copy of Partition Magic for windows and use that. Also, I'm assuming that your current XP partition is NTFS. If it is, you will only be able to READ from it, you will not be able to actually write any data to it. If you want to be able to read and write, you will need to convert that partition to FAT32. Once you get Debian up and running, then we can worry about your other questions. Yes, all of them can be done. (Well, I'm not 100% sure about running Debian on a system without having it installed locally, but I THINK you could do some sort of a network boot setup.) The best way to learn how to do it, is to try it. If it doesn't work, try it again... and again... and again... and again. :) It's a lot of work, but in the long run, you'll end up learning a LOT more. Good luck. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Installing Debian or Linux
On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 00:32, John Lynch wrote: Thanks a lot Matthew and everyone else. okay, here's another 2 questions. What is the best Linux OS to install for a newbie, and it still connects to the net and has Windows XP as the default OS? and also, Would 1 gig be enough to practice installing Debian (or another Linux OS) on? You can do a basic install with 1 GB of free space. However, if you're intending to run Gnome or KDE and some applications for them, then you're going to start running out of room. But just to practice setting it up, that would be fine. As for easy Linux distros to install, I'd say either RedHat or Mandrake. I don't like them, and they're a pain in the rear end to maintain (as compared to Debian at least) but they're much easier to start with. But if you're willing to put in the necessary amount of work to get through initial setup with Debian, I think you'll be a lot happier in the long run. The first Linux distro that I ever set up from scratch was Debian, and it took me 3 long weeks without the benefit of this list for guidance. (Primarily because I didn't bother looking for help. :) But, having gotten through it, I ended up knowing enough to handle just about anything that was thrown at me afterwards. But if you're not willing to put in quite that much effort, then, by all means, go with an easier distro like RH or Mandrake. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: soundcard use as non-root
On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 02:54, George Teodor wrote: I have an ess1868 soundcard which works fine but only logged in as root. I can't make it work as user.I'm using potato. Any solutions? I'm guessing that you're using ESD? Check your permissions on /usr/bin/esd. If the user:group are root:root, you'll have to have your permissions set to 755 or thereabouts (rwxr-xr-x) in order to get sound from a non-root account. The other alternative (the one I prefer) is to change esd to root:audio and then adding any users I want to have sound to the group audio. (adduser username audio) If this doesn't help, then I'd suggest you provide us with some more details on what exactly is wrong. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
OT: Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material
On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 15:32, Timothy R. Butler wrote: You misunderstand my point. I really don't care if someone wished to read Mein Kampf, or any other trash for that matter. That isn't the point. My point is that I don't want *my* tax dollars to pay for it. I'm not saying, however, that you shouldn't be allowed to go buy the book, just not expect the library to get it on my (and every other tax payer's) dime. Also, I'm not against things I disagree with. However, I, like I think anyone else, draws the line at some point. Like someone else pointed out, does your library generally carry Penthouse? Should it? Should it carry the writtings of Osama bin Ladin? There has to be a line somewhere, it's only a matter of where. It's worth noting, at some point, everyone will say that's enough. I might be stricter than you, but in the end, I think everyone is willing to censor something. --snip-- As I said, that is perfectly fine. All I'm saying is that I wouldn't be happy if my tax dollars went toward buying Mein Kampf for a library. If you want to go find a bookstore that carries it and buy a copy or two - that is your right, and something I would never think the government should prevent. For starters note the subject line change, since this ceased having anything to do with debian a long time ago. Now, personally, I love the Star Trek DS9 books. Every library in my area carries all of them. As much as I like these books, they don't really contribute anything to the literary world. With all due respect to the authors, the writing contained in them is neither thought inspiring, educational, or in any other way important. Mein Kampf, on the other hand, was written by a rather mentally unstable individual who, none the less, was able to get an entire country to rally behind him, and in the process, nearly wipe the Jewish people from the face of this planet. I think it is VITAL that we read and study this man's writings to ensure that someone like him never comes around again. My tax dollars had DAMNED WELL BETTER be going to this cuase. We should, for this same reason, make the writings of Osama Bin Laden widely available. It is important to understand this man's views so that we can best prevent future tragedies. sarcasm If you believe that this is a waste of your tax dollars, then perhaps we should also get rid of the military as well? And, while we're at it, universities are also a waste of your tax dollars since all they do all day is talk about Hitler and Bin Laden, so lets scrap those as well. As a matter of fact, they go over this Mein Kampf trash in high schools all over the country, so lets get rid of those. And if we get rid of them, then we might as well just get rid of elementary and middle schools and call it a day. Hell, I don't have cancer, so we should stop wasting my tax dollars on cancer research. /sarcasm -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Wheel mouse
On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 14:10, Daniel Toffetti wrote: On Friday 08 March 2002 20:40, Bob Thibodeau wrote: The important parts for making the wheel work are Option Emulate3Buttons off Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Well, now at least it doesn't crash, but the wheel doesn't work. Which protocol are you using now? I switched mine from ps/2 to ImPS/2 the device stayed at /dev/psaux because I'm using the same port as my old mouse did Right now the protocol is set to Microsoft. I tried changing it to IMPS/2 and the pointer movement got completely crazy and unusable. I've been half-following this thread for the past two days, yet I've never seen this mentioned so I figured I'd throw it out there. You said you had a Genius NetMouse right? There's a netmouse option available in gpm that you might want to take a look at. I'm not sure if X has an equivalent setting for it or not, but if it doesn't you can always try having gpm repeat ImPS/2 and using ImPS/2 in X. Just a thought. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: GnuCash vs MoneyDance
On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 14:35, James D Strandboge wrote: In addition to doing all my household/personal finances with it, I use gnucash for accounts/receivable, invoicing and reports for consulting I do on the side and have been very pleased with gnucash's capabilities. It has much improved reports over the 1.4 series. It also has support for stocks, etc-- but admittedly I don't use that feature much. Also, I have a client who uses gnucash for his small business-- and he is very happy with it. I am not a quicken user, but people I've talked to who have used quicken (at least older versions ca. 1998) and gnucash say that gnucash is better from an accounting perspective. But take that for what it is worth-- it is second hand and anecdotal. GnuCash is DFSG-free, if that sort of thing appeals to you. This is indeed a compelling argument to at least try it. You can get it through ximian if you use potato or get it straight from woody/sid if you use those. I don't know moneydance's requirements now-- but when I tried it before (around a year ago), it was too slow on my machine (though I only have a PII 233). Personally, I would very much prefer to keep my system as free as possible. I'd much prefer to use gnucash over some other alternative, but so far I've found it severely lacking in one area, and that's importing bank statements via QIF. I use my Discover and American Express cards quite a bit, and entering each of those transactions into gnucash by hand would get very tedious very quickly. Other than that, I love gnucash. Unfortunately, for me at least, that's reason enough to start looking elsewhere. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Missing ICQ features / anyone seen those?
On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 05:09, Balazs Javor wrote: Hi, Thanks! Does it work with the new ICQ protocol? Yup. When you go to add an account, just choose Oscar instead of ICQ and you'll be all set. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Missing ICQ features / anyone seen those?
On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 16:10, Balazs Javor wrote: There are two features I've been missing / would like to have in ICQ, but I havn't found any implementation with either... So I thought I bring this up, maybe somebody knows one, or gets an idea for implementing one :) 1. The Windows client allow for a pseudo chat like view of the messages exchanged with somebody and if your counterpary sends several messages in short (or long) time they will automatically appear on the top half of the window. In all (working) Linux client I've seen you need to press the next message button if a new message arives. This is a bit inconvenient as I don't always notice them at first and may be replying to only part of the message :( 2. I have only relatively few friends on my contact list, so it would be very nice if it could somehow be completely integrated into the Gnome panel. Maybe similar to the taskview applet or something like that... That way there would be no need to open up the separate ICQ window to see the status of a couple of peole at a glane and to be able to quickly start conversations with them or send files etc... For me a panel applet woulf be an ideal place for it. Unfortunatelly allthough some clients (GnomeICU etc.) have a panel applet they only display a very small summary number and don't allow much directly beside changing my status quickly... Well that's certainly intersting... you've just described Gaim... :) You can have an IM style chat window for ICQ, AND it comes with a gnome panel applet. You click the applet, your contact list pops up. Click again, it's gone. The applet will also graphically show your current status. Best of all, it works with AIM, ICQ, MSN, Jabber, and probably quite a few other protocols that I know nothing about. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: getting the family in on Linux. was: Re: new twist on shutting down and restricting ssh users
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:09, Oki DZ wrote: dman wrote: On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:24:49PM -0600, Matt Garman wrote: I wonder if someone has done a comparison between 1) VNC on the server vs. using XDMCP to manage a remote display 2) VNC viewer on the client vs. X server (using XDMCP) on the client I think your choices are: having VNC server and client running on server and client machines respectively; having X servers running on both machines (for XDMCP). Well, while I'm sure this isn't a very plausible alternative in a family situation, my solution for getting my roommates to start using Linux was drastic yet effective. I have banned the use of M$ software on any of my computers with the exception of my desktop which has a locked down install of XP for 'emergency' use only(classes or work). And since I have 5 of them, and my roommates don't have any, that doesn't leave them much of a choice. At first they were reluctant, but after letting them play with Galeon for about 10 mins with my XMMS applet loaded and using Gaim to connect to Yahoo, MSN, and ICQ at once, they were more or less sold. Sure, they won't outright admit it, but they don't even REQUEST to go into Windows anymore. Usually, once you show someone a better way to do something, they quit complaining relatively quickly. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
unable to mount ide-scsi drives
I recently recompiled my kernel (2.4.17) with ide-scsi support and no ide-cd. cdrecord recognizes both of my CD-RW drives just fine. However, I can't seem to mount them. I've tried using both the sr and sd devices, but no matter what I try, I just can't mount a CD. Any suggestions? TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: unable to mount ide-scsi drives
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 15:29, Hans Ekbrand wrote: Try /dev/scd0 On my system, /dev/srX is linked to scdX, and I've already tried all the sr entries. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: unable to mount ide-scsi drives
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 15:38, Ron Johnson wrote: Blank CDs? I've got Potato CDs in both drives. They always mounted fine before. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: unable to mount ide-scsi drives
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 15:47, Nathan E Norman wrote: Did you compile SCSI CD support into your kernel? If you compiled sr_mod as a module, is it inserted? Does /proc/devices list 11 sr under block devices? Sometimes you have to a kernel argument like hdc=ide-scsi via LILO or GRUB. I compiled the kernel with generic SCSI support as well as ide-scsi. Everything was compiled directly into the kernel. (no modules) 11 sr isn't listed under devices. Here's the output. -- Character devices: 1 mem 2 pty 3 ttyp 4 ttyS 5 cua 7 vcs 10 misc 14 sound 128 ptm 136 pts 162 raw 202 cpu/msr 203 cpu/cpuid 226 drm Block devices: 2 fd 3 ide0 - And I THOUGHT I had append=hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi in my lilo.conf... but I just rechecked it and it's gone... hmm... odd... -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)
On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 02:24, Chris Jenks wrote: At 11:06 PM 3/5/02, Ron Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 17:19, Gary Hennigan wrote: Yes, yes, all those TV, radio stations, satelite uplink stations (the vast majority all of which are in the Northern Hemisphere) are radiating outwards. Forgetting all of the rest of your email, if you were an alien, would you want to contact this planet, just based off your first paragraph? Chris ps I'm not looking for a flame war, just pointing out that the signals that we are sending out there are not worth replying to. Lets turn that around a little bit. If you just happened to point a local antenna skyward and all of a sudden got a VERY poorly rated alien sitcom, would you want to reply? I sure as hell would! :) (It's still semi-intelligent life after all. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Need a good finance program
Any suggestions for a good finance program? I've been using M$ Money for years now, but now that I'm moving COMPLETELY away from M$ products, I need a good replacement. I've been trying GnuCash and it works pretty well except for one major problem. As far as I can tell, there's no way to import downloaded statments from my bank. My primary requirement for a program is that it must at the very least be able to import downloaded QIF files with little to no user intervention. Ideally, it would do ALL of the work for me, but downloading the files by hand is fine just so long as I can quickly import them. This is the determining factor between having a new, clean 14 GB ext3 partition, and having a bloated, useless NTFS partition. If I can find a good way to manage my money outside of Windows, I'll finally be able to kill off the last (and worst) of the M$ viruses... I mean programs on my desktop box and finally get to declare that my apartment is truly FREE (as in speech). TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Two X questions
I'm sure that these both have simple answers, but as I really know next to nothing about X I'm left having to ask here. 1) Is there a way to run concurrent X sessions WITHOUT having to be in an X session to start a new one. In case that's not quite clear, Gnome gives you an option to log in as a new user while leaving the other user logged in. You can switch between them with F7-Fwhatever. But this requires the users to be IN a Gnome session (starting from the terminal doesn't work.) I keep my session locked (xscreensaver) since I'm always tinkering with various security related issues, but I need a way to let my roommates log in when I'm not around to unlock the screen. 2) Is there a way to connect to a running X session. I can run remote X programs through ssh with no problem, but I'd like to have a way to actually VIEW a remote X session locally. (i.e. Be able to access my currently logged in view on my desktop computer from my laptop.) With what little I know of X this looks like it SHOULD work, but I have no idea where to start. TIA. -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Retry.. no more crybaby bs
On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 19:34, Harry Putnam wrote: OK, list posters, you've advised me to coninue my efforts and step back to potato. (See thread suject `Enough time wasted.. moving on') A coulpe of posters have suggested a network install. Thing is I have $40 dollars worth of cds setting here. Surely I can at least use them to get the base install going and maybe get my nic setup. Then do the rest via network? In the last three attempts my nic is not recognized and any attempt to install one of the 3com drivers is rejected. I didn't capture any error info but will this time if it comes up. My card is: 3Com 3C905B-TX (PCI) That's what I like to hear! (The bit about coming, back, not the NIC problem. :) Ok, for starters, if you paid $40 for Woody CDs, you got ripped off. First, it's not actually released, and second, CD's are what... $0.25 a piece nowadays? Throw in shipping and you're looking at no more than $10. But I digress. The good news is that you CAN still get some use out of them. Now, for the NIC problem, the driver you want to use is 3c59x Vortex. I have that EXACT card in two of my systems, and it's the most painless one that I've used to date. If it doesn't work, I'd suggest pulling out any other cards that you don't need to have in during installation for now. The install SHOULD go fine for you. Now, if you want to use the Woody CD's at the earliest convenience, when you're first prompted for scanning the CDs, just use your Woody CD's instead of the Potato ones. The safe alternative is to install from Potato fully, but before going to tasksel, use apt-cdrom to update the info with your Woody CD's. Everything after that should be fine. If you need any other info, as always, the list is here. :) -Alex signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
