Re: debconf wonky
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 05:41:31PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Apparently this backport did not take the po-debconf conversion into > account, and just tossed "_Description" fields into the .debs. Not > correct. Uhm... what does it mean? Do I need to backport a newer debconf or do I need to actually fix something in the xfree86 packages? The "backport" was nothing more than "recompile stuff for woody until it works". The actual xfree86 packages weren't changed. -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VIM 6.1 with GTK+ 2.0 patches
Hi people, I took VIM CVS, the GTK2 patch from Jason Hildebrand[0], the Debian packages from Luca, put everything in a blender and the result can be downloaded from http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/ The packages should be installable on a woody system with updated GTK2 libraries. Source is included. Please don't submit bugs to the BTS regarding this packages. Cheers, Marcelo [0] http://www.opensky.ca/gnome-vim/todo.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please Help Pass W3C Patent Policy
On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 06:44:08PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > The code that makes use of the patented principle must be under the > MIT license, which allows a scope-limited patent license. You are asking us to support a proposal that goes against point 6 of the Debian Free Software Guidelines. From http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-patent-policy-20021114/#def-RF> With respect to a Recommendation developed under this policy, a W3C Royalty-Free license shall mean a non-assignable, non-sublicensable license to make, have made, use, sell, have sold, offer to sell, import, and distribute and dispose of implementations of the Recommendation that: [...] 3. may be limited to implementations of the Recommendation, and to what is required by the Recommendation; -- Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exploring debian's users and groups
>> Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I can confirm that on Solaris 2.5, bin is the owner and group of most > > files in /bin, /usr/bin, et al. I don't go back all that far in unix, so > > I don't know why that is. > > I can confirm the same for AIX 4.3.3 FWIW, on IRIX most files in /bin[0], /usr/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin are root:sys. On HP/UX[1] /bin[2], /usr/bin, /sbin and /usr/sbin contain files owned by bin:bin, with a few seemingly random exceptions owned by root:sys. [0] This is actually a link to usr/bin. [1] aka, a Developer's Nightmare (but I actually find it cute to be greeted by "(c)Copyright 1979, 1980, 1983, 1985-1993 The Regents of the Univ. of California", among a screenful of others, at login) [2] Same deal, the link points to /usr/bin. -- Marcelo | The Battle of Koom Valley is the only one known to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | history where both sides ambushed each other. | -- (Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms)
Re: new wmaker clutter
>> Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In windowmaker 0.65.0-1, I am seeing some new oddities on the title bar. > Most annoying is a button just to the left of the minimize button > labeled with an 'E'. That's the "language button" or something like that. I don't know, I don't use it my self (and it shouldn't really pop up like that). I wonder what you did to get it to show up. You can make it go away using the Inspector (Attributes on the window menu). > It doesn't seem to do anything. Only a bit less annoying is how it > adds [1], [2], etc after the title of windows, such as xterms, which > I open more than one of. Yes, that's getting on my nerves, too. You can't disable it, and from what I read from Dan, it will either stay or it will go, but there won't be an option to disable it. If there's no option to disable it, I'll just kill it myself. -- Marcelo
Re: Glibc 2.1.94-3, fixes all issues with db libraries
>> Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you had problems with the last few 2.1.94 packages (and even if you > didn't), get these. They are currently in incoming (to be installed later > this afternoon, then mirrors will get it some hours later). Make sure you > get the libdb2 that goes along with it. Impatient as I might be (and wanting to check if the plaympeg problem went away) I upgraded libc6, libc6-dev, locales and libdb2 to the versions in incoming. When configuring libc6 it asked if I wanted to restart running services. I said yes, it did so with exim and ssh... it was about to do the same with apache and the machine froze. I don't have remote access to this box, so I couldn't check how bad this was. Magic-SysRq KSUB did work. I thought this was chance, but Christian Kurz said the same happened to him. Marcelo
Re: login.app and 16 bpp?
On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 07:10:53PM +0200, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried login.app and liked it's appearance very much, but it ran > the X server only with 8bpp. Is it possible to configure it to run > with 16 bpp? Look in /etc/X11/XF86Config for something like this: Section "Screen" Driver "SVGA" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" and add a line "DefaultColorDepth 16", that is: Section "Screen" Driver "SVGA" Device "Primary Card" Monitor "Primary Monitor" DefaultColorDepth 16 Marcelo
Re: wmaker0.60* and libc6 (slink)
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 09:22:31PM -0400, Damir J. Naden wrote: > Does anyone know if wmaker_0.60.0 will be released for slink system > (linked against libc6, _not_ libc6 2.1)? IIRC, the packages at http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/wmaker/ are built like this. Marcelo
Re: new wmaker package?
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 09:06:01PM +0200, Thomas Keusch wrote: > Now that I've updated, I found out WindowMaker in slink and potato are the > same version, so my problems still persist. nope, they are not. Slink has 0.20.3; potato has 0.53.0. The version in potato is compiled on a slink system, but that's another thing. > As this version (0.5x.x) has been available for some time, I keep wondering > why there is no more recent package available, in particular because I think > WindowMaker is quite popular. Because: a) none of the reported bugs have been fixed. I've been looking at some of them, but haven't had the time to fix them proper. b) there are some upstream patches, but none of them fix any important bugs, IMO. c) I haven't been able to reproduce some of the reported bugs If you report a bug (where you can tell me what problems are you having with the current version) I'll be more than happy to look into it. Marcelo
Re: gdm/xdm/login.app weirdnesses
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:56:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > (of course, replace vt7 with whatever it's ok for your system) > > > i will need to know what this vt7 thing means before i can know what's > okay for my system... vt7 is the 7th virtual console (what you get when you press Alt-F7). If you haven't touched your inittab (to add or remove virtual consoles), vt7 is ok for your system. Marcelo
Re: gdm/xdm/login.app weirdnesses
[ cross-posting is not welcomed, btw ] On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 04:05:23AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm running potato and till recently was running XDM with login.app to > give the login screen a nice clean look. Then GDM (Gnome Display > Manager) showed up in unstable so i grabbed it. Next time i rebooted, > it gave me the gnome login screen and my mouse works, but for some odd > reason it disables my keyboard. The kb works through bootup but once > it goes to the gdm login screen my led lights won't even come on & off. gdm is fighting with getty over the keyboard. I'd guess there's a file called /etc/X11/gdm/Xservers. You'll need to modify the entry for the local server and add "vt7" to it, like this: :0 local /usr/bin/X11/X vt7 (of course, replace vt7 with whatever it's ok for your system) > The only possible thing i can think of that i might have done was put > login.app into the wrong runlevel or something...when i initially > installed login.app it tried to configure before X and XDM were > configured so it told me to configure later with some config script > somewhere. When it ran, it asked me which runlevel to put login.app > into. I know nothing about runlevels, and was given the options 2345 > ...i chose 2. Login.app is launched by init. The configuration script tries to guess some sane configuration and suggests that. > When i decided to install GDM i removed login.app fearing problems; when > i removed it, it spit some things out about the runlevel stuff. on removal, it tries to leave things in a sane state. So far, I haven't got any bug reports regarding this. I'm pretty sure it works ok. (I tested it under several configurations more than a few dozen times) > Is it simply a bug in GDM? I suppose i'll see... it's a bug in ... in ... no, wait, it's not really a bug. It's a deficency in the start up process. Basically, *dm should be run after everything else, namely, after the getty's are spawned. This is not the case. *dm is launched _almost_ after everything. But as you and several other people have found out, "almost" doesn't do it.
Re: How Can I install WindowMaker 0.53?
On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 06:58:37PM +, Rodrigo Viana Rocha wrote: > But some dependecies problems with these packs: > libjpeg62 > libungif3g (>= 3.0-2) | giflib3g (>= 3.0-5.2) debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/libs/libjpeg62_6b-1.1.deb debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/graphics/libungif3g_3.0-2.deb > couldn't be solve! There isn't such packs in my Debian CD (dselect > couldn't find they)! is that a slink (Debian 2.1) CD? Marcelo
Re: Partition Type A0 ??
On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 10:46:22PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: > I booted it from the 2.1 CD, and ran cfdisk. It's a 4.something > gig drive, which has 3 partitions: a 2gig one, another 2gig one, a > 162.5 gig one, and 7 megs of free space. The 162.5 gig partition (which > we'd like to delete) shows up as partition type A0 in cfdisk. On a recent installfest I ran into that with a Toshiba laptop. The owner didn't know what that partition was for, so we removed it (~40 MB) using linux's fdisk. We proceeded with the installation, rebooted, and surprise, surprise, the machine stopped booting! We disable power saving and all that stuff, and the machine wouldn't boot. We removed the hd from the BIOS, and the machine was able to boot from a floppy. We recreated the partition (same type, same place), and the machine worked again. After reading the manual, which essentially doesn't say a thing about this partition, I got the impression it's for the "resume/suspend" function of the laptop. I don't understand why the machine doesn't even boot without it, but I learned not to touch those. Ever. Marcelo
Re: windowmaker
KDE and GNOME support - Since 0.51.0-3 there are two additional pacakges, wmaker-gnome and wmaker-kde. They install: /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker-gnome [30] /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker-kde [20] They are registered with Debian's alternatives system (the numbers in brackets are the priorities used -- GNOME is in Debian, KDE is not) PLEASE NOTE: I don't use GNOME and I don't use KDE. That should give you a hint as how wonderfully tested the packages are. I'm providing them because some people have asked me to. If you submit a bug related to either GNOME or KDE support, PLEASE use the proper Package: field. You have been warned. The KDE package is compiled with --enable-kde --enable-lite. I won't make a wmaker-kde-lite package. If -lite doesn't work properly, please let me know. But please keep in mind: wmaker-kde is meant to _replace_ kwm, if --enable-lite is not used, KDE users will have a very hard time. (If you just want to use some KDE apps, I think you better use the normal wmaker package) | Hints (information given by applications to integrate well with the window | manager) for Motif(tm), OPEN LOOK(tm), KDE and GNOME are also supported. | So you can replace any of the window managers for these environments with | Window Maker while keeping most, if not all, of the native window manager | functionality. (that's from /usr/doc/wmaker/README.gz) >From Window Maker's NEWS file (/usr/doc/wmaker/NEWS.gz) --- 0.50.0 KDE and GNOME - Added full support for GNOME and KWM hints. Read the INSTALL file to see how enable them. Everything in the so called GNOME window manager bla bla bla pseudo-spec is implemented. As for KDE stuff, it implements 90% of everything kwm does, adds some Window Maker specific extensions to it and still uses half of the memory kwm does, which should be enough to let you dump kwm ;) For details on what exactly is implemented, see comments in src/kwm.c Read the README.KDE file for more information. WARNING: Some KDE hints are badly designed, so doing things like using kpanel's desktop switcher/pager and Window Maker's internal workspace management functions to create, destroy and rename workspaces at the same time might cause unknown effects. To be on the safe side, only use either of them to manage workspaces. Switching workspaces is hopefully, safe, so you can switch workspaces from wherever you want. Marcelo
Motorola ModemSurfr 28.8 + Linux 2.2.x?
Hi, someone here asked me this the other day, I couldn't find an answer and I was left pondering. He's using Debian 2.1, and he tells me his modem (motorola modemsurfr 28.8) works ok with kernel 2.0.36, but it doesn't work with 2.2.x. With 2.2.x the modem responds to "ATZ" but after that it hangs and stops responding to commands. Any ideas what could cause this or how could this be fixed? TIA, Marcelo
Re: wdm + WindowMaker 0.53 sorrow
[don't you read the mailing list where you post questions to?] On Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 06:40:01PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: > I don't like the Login.app because of its lack of functionality. I > want wdm back. I tried installing libwraster2 package from Potato, but > wdm package won't install (and the one from Potato won't install > either, because it needs glibc2.1). I can't compile wdm myself either, > it complains that WINGs and wraster libs are not found. Save yourself some trouble: http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/wmaker/ Marcelo
Re: Windowmaker .53 and wdm (libwraster1)
On Sun, Apr 25, 1999 at 01:41:59AM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote: > Hi all: > > I've compiled and installed WindowMaker 0.53. I refused to work until > I removed libwraster1, but wdm was using that one... So I had to > switch to Login.app, which I don't like as much as I liked wdm. :( > > Is there any way to get wdm working with WM 0.53? I'm running Slink. /me is running slink, too I have the very same situation here. wdm from slink and wmaker 0.53.0 (in fact, wmaker 0.53.0-2), and it works. http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/wmaker/ is what you need. Marcelo
Re: rxvt in windowmaker
On Tue, Apr 13, 1999 at 01:42:21PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > how can I have a console program opened running in a rxvt as in an x-term > on windowmaker? > > ie. I have the following in menu.hook: > > "Mutt" EXEC xterm -T "Mutt" -e /usr/bin/mutt > > how can have the same program opened with rxvt instead? > > "Mutt" EXEC rxvt -d "Mutt" -e /usr/bin/mutt You want to modify /etc/menu-methods/menu.h, look for "function term()" and change xterm to rxvt. Marcelo
Re: wdm
On Wed, Mar 24, 1999 at 08:09:17PM -0500, dyer wrote: > Anybody using wdm? > I'm having a problem at bootup. wdm starts, but hangs for a full minute > before finally giving me a login screen. I'm not exactly sure how wdm is > dealing with the xserver, or xdm, so I'm kinda stumped. looks like you have both xdm and wdm installed and running in the same run level. Remove one of them. xdm probably. Marcelo
Re: help me to undertand GMT time!!!!
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 11:17:02PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I wrote: > > > 12:00 noon, please. 12:00 pm is midnight... > > > > Pann McCuaig writes: > > > I don't think so. 12:00pm is noon > > > > PM stands for post meridiem, which means after noon. Thus 12PM is 12 hours > > after noon, or midnight. > > No. By your logic, 12:01 PM is 12 hours and one minute after noon. > > 12:00 PM is noon, because the time switches from AM to PM at noon. > Simple, eh? John Hasler is correct. The point is there is NO 12 am or 12 pm. As he explained, am means 'ante meridiem'. This `meridiem' is a circle drawn from the North point in the horizon to the South point, passing thru the zenith. Zenith is the point directly overhead for any given location. At some point in time (near 12:00), the sun crosses this circle. This is (local) noon. The Sun is neither before or after the meridian, it's on the meridian. Although it might seen as a logical conclusion to say that 12:00 pm is noon, the argument doesn't hold, because `pm' has a precise definition. It means "when any given star has _crossed_ the meridian" Marcelo
Re: kdm
On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 09:15:53AM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > in wdm: kdm remembers your last session, when you type your username it > > switches the menue to the last used session, so that you don't have to > > click every time you login (if you prefere non-default one). Of course, it > > is not importain for a single user. > > I agree, that feature is VERY nice. I wish I could figure out how it does > it, 'cause I'd love it if I could fix wdm to work the same way. I guess I could hack this in. kdm is kinda RH-centric. RH uses ~/.wm_style to pick up the window manager used. kdm writes `fvwm' to this file when you select `fvwm' on the panel. `last login' actually means "don't write anything to ~/.wm_style -- use whatever is already there" -- so much for remembering the last thing used! I think I could use another script arround /etc/X11/Xsession that reads ~/.wdm_style and passes whatever is there to /etc/X11/Xsession as the first argument (this is how wdm tells Xsession which wm to use) But that's not high on my TODO list, if someone is really interested, please file a wishlist bug against wdm. Marcelo
Re: Help making a package
On Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 12:02:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Also, curious, any reason that the window maker package seems so out of > date? Current deb version is 0.30 (or close to that) but the latest source > is 0.99? /me thinks you are talking about GNOME not Window Maker Potato has packages for GNOME 0.99.something and Window Maker 0.51.0 Marcelo
Re: AHA-2940 SCSI won't boot
On Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 05:45:34PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > >As a recap, I have a Gateway2000 P5-200 with an Adaptec AHA-2940 > >Ultra/Ultraw SCSI host adapter with four 2GB Seagate ST32155W drives. DOS > >does fine with it; Win95 does fine; WinNT does fine. Try the new boot disks, 2.1.8, available from Incoming (http://debian.midco.net/Incoming) It sounds like you have access to another linux box. Check (kernel source) drivers/scsi/README.aic7xxx; you'll have to play a little with some of the aic7xxx's options to find out the correct termination settings. Marcelo
Re: WindowMaker themes -> Debian packages
On Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 01:14:34PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Wooo another one! Diversity is strength... it is, isn't it? :) > I think the best solution would be something like the kernel-package > package that takes a common formated tree, such as the themes from > *.themes.org and creates a Debian packages out of it. Be careful what you wish for, it might come true: http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/wmaker-theme-package_0.1_all.deb This has some rough edges. Something that should be high on the TODO list is fixing themes (that s|~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/|| detail). The package is lintian-clean, and the packages it produces are lintian- clean, too. I should say this here: thanks Manoj! (and gecko, Crow and whole bunch of people that I don't recall right now) Marcelo
Re: Slink, xbase-common and xdm...
On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 07:39:53AM -0900, Hogland, Thomas E. wrote: > Interesting problem - I've upgraded to slink as part of kernel 2.2.1 on > two different PC's, and I think I goofed on one. When the new X stuff went > in and asked if I should use my current config files, the PC at work was > told No - leave mine alone; the PC at home was told Yes - overwrite with > new ones. It's sort of simple. Either deinstall xdm (the package, there's a package by that name now), or move /etc/init.d/xdm.dpkg-dist to /etc/init.d/xdm The new startup script is *requiered* for xdm to work properly. To gain access to your computer, boot linux in single user mode as some people have stated here. Marcelo
Re: X11 upgrade---error using xdm, Xsession?
Hi, On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 10:40:58AM +1000, Alan Eugene Davis wrote: > Now what is this? > > Windowmaker is broken. Afterstep has been broken for a couple of > weeks: a difference in config files? (I'd done some tweaks). I'll be glad to help if you can tell me how's wmaker broken. Marcelo
Re: nfs and 2.2.x
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 03:25:06PM +0100, Rainer Clasen wrote: > IIRC knfsd's exports don't recurse mountpoints: If host1's /usr is a > different volume than /, mounting host1:/ on another box won't give you > access to host1:/usr. Hmmm... there's a compile time option (SUN NFS something) that makes knfs behave in the same way as nfsd --re-export, which is what I think you are talking about. Marcelo
Re: nfs and 2.2.x
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 01:11:25AM -0500, Shaleh wrote: > I am prepping to setup NFS on a 2.2.x machine. I would like to use the > kernel based one as the docs point to it being faster/better. Is there > support in Debian for this? You have to install knfs from project/experimental Marcelo
Re: wmaker upgrade broken... need help
On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 04:06:02PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What's wrong and how can I fix it? I have sources.lists pointing to > slink. A blooper of mine. 0.20.3-3 fixed this. It's on it's way to mirrors (it's already installed on the main archive) Marcelo
Re: wdm keyboard lock-up
On Fri, Jan 08, 1999 at 12:39:48AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Roy Pluschke wrote: > > I have a slink system (updated from hamm) which seemed to be working > > perfectly, however I recently attempted to install wdm which dselect > > starts during the installation procedure -- all apeared to work well. > > This is a known bug the maintainer's working on. Roy, please try wdm 1.0-4 installed on slink. If this bug is still there, I'll start screaming so loud I'll be heard on the next Solar System... really. No, seriously, try 1.0-4 and please email me if you still have problems with it. Marcelo
Re: Adding menu items in WindowMaker
On Thu, Dec 03, 1998 at 11:03:30AM -0500, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> What I did is:
>
> Create my own menu with my customizations..
> Somewhere in that menu I created an "external" menu pointing too
> menu.hook.
>
> It's kinda kludgy, but it works. If you figure out how to embed
> menu.hook, please let me know!
There are several ways:
* Make your own WMRootMenu. For testing purposed I once used this:
$ cat GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu
(
Applications,
(Debian, OPEN_MENU, menu.hook),
(
WorkSpace,
(Appearance, OPEN_MENU, appearance.menu),
(Workspaces, WORKSPACE_MENU),
("Arrange Icons", ARRANGE_ICONS),
("Hide Others", HIDE_OTHERS),
("Show All Windows", SHOW_ALL),
("Clear Session", CLEAR_SESSION),
("Save Session", EXEC, "")
),
(XTerm, SHORTCUT, "Control+Shift+x", EXEC, xterm),
("Run Program", EXEC, "%a(Run a program)"),
(About..., INFO_PANEL),
(Exit, SHUTDOWN)
)
you can build this using the Menu Guru in WPrefs (WPrefs needs WM >=
0.19.1, I think, current version in slink is 0.20.2)
* Use the hooks...
$ grep hook /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook
#include
#include
Put a menu.posthook and menu.prehook in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker
* Use menu's internal mechanism
something like this:
$ cat > /etc/menu/remotessh
?package(ssh):needs=x11 section=RemoteHosts \
title=YourHost\
command="xterm -e \"slogin yourhost\""
HTH,
Marcelo
Re: Recommendations for Email client?
On Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 10:41:15AM -0800, Jon Burchmore wrote: > 1. IMAP support > 2. PGP integration > 3. X (preferably gtk) based UI > 4. The ability to support multiple mail servers/accounts. The ammount of messages saying "use mutt" should say something to you... :-) Your solution is fetchmail+procmail+mutt+exim. 1. Mail fetching 2. Mail sorting 3. Mail reading 4. Mail delivering As for X based UI, use an xterm... :-) Marcelo
Re: wmaker problem after update
On Thu, Nov 19, 1998 at 10:57:33AM +0100, Ben Jorgensen wrote: > After updating to the latest frozen (slink) packages wmaker won't start. > > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker warning: X server does not support locale > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker warning: cannot set locale modifiers > /usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display "" reinstall xlib6g_3.3.2.3a-7 Marcelo
Re: Can't start windowmaker
On Sat, Nov 14, 1998 at 01:24:36AM -0500, Mario Bertrand wrote: > Hi, > > I can't start windowmaker from login with startx command, it open a few > seconds and then it crash. All other WM are ok. Is there something > missing? If you have xlib6g 3.3.2.3a-7 installed, reinstall it. Check the existance of a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale directory. Marcelo
Re: Window Maker 0.20.2 with latest slink
On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 07:51:13AM -0500, Vaibhav Goel wrote: > wmaker: error in loading shared libraries > : undefined symbol: _Xsetlocale Since you compiled WM yourself, you should recompile it again. there was *one* instance of xlib6g that had this function, current xlib6g doesn't. WM's configure script checks for it. Upgrade your xlib6g and xlib6g-dev to the current ones... it should not be necessary to comment out the code that checks for this in configure(.in)... Marcelo
lp accounting -- lprng [pages?]
Hi, Right after I sent the previous message with a similar subject I realized lpd runs as lp group lp. I changed the ownership of /var/log/lp-acct and now it works. What I need to know now is if it's possible to count the number of pages printed. I'm using magicfilter (if that matters) on one queue, and that bounces to another one which send the jobs to an NT box. And the printer is a LaserJet without postscript. Can I watch the data on the second queue (which is already PCL) and count the number of pages? How? Marcelo
lp accounting - lprng
Hi, I'm trying to get lprng to do some accounting, but so far, I have failed soundly. I have af=/var/log/lp-acct, and I did touch /var/log/lp-acct; also, ar and la are set. I restarted lpd. But /var/log/lp-acct is still blank. Ideas? Marcelo
Re: wmaker 0.20.2
On Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 09:06:06AM +0100, Rene Hogendoorn wrote: > I had to delete ~/GNUstep/ on one system to avoid wmaker core dumps, so > I think it is not only wdm that is affected. > > On a new slink system with the very latest x-packages, wmaker cannot find > any fonts, although xlsfonts works fine. It just dumps core. New like in "installed the broken X packages"? I'm told there's a problem with locales (and I have this hunch you are using locales)... lemme see... I have this: Which is value of LANG? Check /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias and be sure that you have correct alias. For example for Russia traditional locale is KOI8-R but in locale.alias ru=ru_RU.ISO8859-5 (which is "standart") instead of ru_RU.KOI8-R So if my LANG=ru then W M and others trying load fonts *-iso8859-5 which I don't need and don't have. Now, there's a... missing symlink (or was it a file?) somewhere in X's locales... s/o sent me the fix, but I can't find it. Marcelo
Re: wmaker icons
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 11:02:33AM -0500, Tim the Unslept Sailer wrote: > I somehow/somewhere/sometime lost my wmaker-* xpm, png and tif files... I > guess > across an upgrade somehow. Can someone tarball them up from their system > and send them to me? I'll put them in a private dir. I really liked some of > then... besides, now my wmaker has blank tiles instead of nice color pics > :) Another one of my screw ups this week. wmaker-data moved the icons from /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/ to /usr/share/icons; I thought about that, but I did only half the thinking :-( Update your IconPath in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker to include this path. Moral: don't package things half asleep. Do it either completely awake or completely asleep. :-) I'm really sorry, Marcelo
Re: wmaker 0.20.2
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 08:50:02AM -0800, Mike Wood wrote: > Is this package broken? This morning I did a apt-get upgrade and > now wdm and wmaker no longer work. Is anybody else seeing this problem? > I can provide more info upon request. Yes. I totally screwed up this time. I can reupload libwraster1 or recompile wdm. I have done the later. The new package is available from http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/pacakges/wdm/ That should solve the problem. Marcelo
Re: XWindow broken :(
On Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 01:46:14PM -0200, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > 1) The pixmaps of wmaker isn't working anymore Update your pixmap path. I'll bet you have wmaker-data 0.7; put /usr/share/icons in your IconPath. Marcelo
Re: debianized themepacks?
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 07:16:54PM +0800, Richard L. Alhama wrote: > are there any debianized themepacks (e.g Alien) it would be much easier if > we could dpkg those themes then uninstall them if we don't like it. Does that come from themes.org? If that's the case, the licenses on those themes are very non-DFSG-free... or at least that was the case last time I looked. Marcelo
Re: some WindowMaker questions ...
On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 10:11:12PM +0100, Nuno Carvalho wrote: Put this: > /usr/local/bin/xradiotrack on your ~/.xsession file. Like this: /usr/local/bin/xradiotrack exec wmaker Marcelo
Re: some WindowMaker questions ...
On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 05:56:07PM +0100, Nuno Carvalho wrote: > Every time I start X (with windowmaker) it opens a xterm session ! ;( > How can I disable it !? > I didn't found any file such as startup neitheir any line on > configuration files refering to it ! Make an ~/.xsession file and put "exec wmaker" on it. Then chmod +x it. > Everytime I install a program, windowmaker menu is updated and I like it. > My problem is that I would like to change some option on windowmaker menu > and I don't find the "menu" file! :( The file is /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook, but you don't want to change that. If you want to modify an entry, copy it from /usr/lib/menu to /etc/menu, edit it, and run update-menus. Marcelo
Re: Redirect printer output to email?
On Mon, Sep 28, 1998 at 06:33:55PM +, Kent West wrote:
> This sounds like a method I'd like to try, but I'm too new at Linux/Unix
> to have much of a clue. Could you possibly give me a snippet of example of
> what my /etc/printcap should look like for this, as well as a general idea
> of what the email filter would look like, and how to daisychain them
> together? Thanks.
Ok. First install lprng. The default configuration allows for bounce queues,
so you should have that. I think you want something like this:
pager:\
:if=/usr/local/sbin/pager-filter:\
:bq=printer:\
:[some other options]:
printer:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/somefilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/printer:
/usr/local/sbin/pager-filter could be something like this:
#!/usr/bin/perl
my $MAIL;
open MAIL, '|mail -s "Some subject" [EMAIL PROTECTED]';
while (<>) {
print MAIL;
print;
}
close MAIL;
Of course, you might need something more fancy to accomodate your pager's
needs. Also, the second filter could bounce to something else, ie, it could
just filter stuff and pass it to another "printer" (which is what I do
locally to do proper filtering before sending the jobs to a Windows NT
machine)
HTH,
Marcelo
Re: wmppp and ISDN
On Sun, Sep 27, 1998 at 12:34:17PM +0200, Torsten Hilbrich wrote: > - if I press the checkmark, I want the yellow light to appear to > indicate, that my connection is in dial-on-demand state (i.e., the > default route is set to ippp0 and the interface is waiting for the > next paket to dial out). I never got the yellow light to behave. The thing is, wmppp.app author uses RH, and his script is of the "run something, wait for something, quit" style. Now, to your problem. wmppp.app is configured in a funny way. The yellow light indicates the "checkmark" has been pressed, and it's waiting for a connection to be stablish. Problem is, it waits for a fixed ammout of time (the author script gives up after a fixed ammount of time, I think). What you want it to do is to wait forever. That can't be changed. Since I also want a similar behaviour for my modem, I'll look into it. > - when the isdn connection is established, the green light should > appear and the timer should start When the PPP interface comes up, /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/0wmppp is run. That script touches /var/run/wmppp.ppp0; wmppp uses the (modification?) date of that file to update the on-line timer. /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/wmppp removes the file in /var/run; when the file is gone, the green light is gone. > The display of the current isdn load would be great too ;-) Bingo. That's what I wanted to ask... I've never seen a machine running Linux+ISDN, so I have no clue about this. wmppp.app monitors /proc/net/route and looks for the ppp interface (ppp0, ppp1, ...) I guess ISDN interfaces use another name... I could be as simple as making wmppp look for that interface. Also, get_statistics is ppp specific. It should be modified to work with ISDN. HTH, Marcelo
Re: No menu in wmaker
On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 09:37:13PM -0500, Cristov Russell wrote: > Perhaps there is something wrong with the packages on my Cheapbytes CD or > something about my new system (different hardware than my previous > successful installation) that Debain doesn't like. I can't figure it out > and I've been working on it for a month now. [as root] $ chmod +x /etc/menu/wm* $ update-menus [as user] $ echo \"menu.hook\" > ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu $ rm ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook That should do it. If it doesn't, look in /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook, it should be populated with several menu entries. If it's not, there's something really wrong, and I don't have enough information to make an educated guess. > I've done a complete reinstall several times now and am having several > oddities that I did not experience when I simply downloaded the packages > (which I have since erased to free up hard drive space). My parallel zip > drive is suddenly sda1 instead of sda4. I also get a "bread" error when > mounting a logical drive (hda6) in my extended partition. If I can get X > working Did you change the kernel? Sounds like it. Also, I still don't understand what's the problem with X. If you are able to check that the menu is not correctly generated, then X is fine (because wmaker is working, if X were not ok, you wouldn't even see wmaker). Take a look in ~/.xsession-errors, some sort of clue should be hiding in there. Marcelo
Re: No menu in wmaker
On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 02:56:26AM -0500, Cristov Russell wrote: > I asked about not having any menu items in wmaker a couple of days ago and > might have a little more information. I have verified that menu is > installed and when I check the .xsession-errors file it mentions a problem > with menu-hook. What's the problem? BTW, update-menus should not be run on ~/.xsession. Marcelo
Re: Redirect printer output to email?
On Wed, Sep 23, 1998 at 09:58:35AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > This isn't specifically Debian-related, but if I can get this done it'll be > a major score on campus for Linux in general and Debian specifically. > > Can I print from a Win95 box to a Debian queue and route that output to an > email message as well as to a printer? Easy. Use lprng. It can daisychain filters. Read stdin, pass the data to stdout and at the same time pass the relevant data to a pine to mail. Use the second filter to talk to samba to get the file printed. BTW, sounds really interesting. Marcelo
xdm + /etc/login.defs == ???
Hi, Am I missing something obvious? I like it very much the way I can put CONSOLE_GROUPS in login.defs because I want the person sitting on the console to be able to read the floppy drive with mtools and *only* that person. Problem is I had to set up a couple of boxes to use xdm against my will... and now nobody can read the floppy drive. Is putting everybody in the floppy group the only solution? I read the manuals but I can't find a way to connect the shadow suite (login.defs) with XDM... is there one? TIA, Marcelo
NIS groups HOWTO?
Hi, How do I setup NIS groups in Debian? I have two machines, one running up-to-date slink and the other one running hamm (if that matters). The hamm machine is the NIS server. If I put netgroups: nis on /etc/nsswitch.conf on both machines and mygroup (,host-a,) (,host-b,) (,host-c,) in hamm's /etc/netgroups and then /some/fs/ @mygroup in hamm's /etc/exports, it doesn't work. What's the trick, or does "it's kind of buggy" mean "doesn't work at all" in the libc6 documentation regarding NIS groups? TIA, Marcelo Magallon
Re: How to setup NE-2000 PCI Ethernet Card
On Tue, Sep 08, 1998 at 08:36:41AM +0800, Alex Kwan wrote: > My LAN card was NE-2000 PCI (Realtek RTL-8029) > How to set up the Command Line Argument on > ne2k_pci module? Does anybody has this card too, > would you please share your experience with me? Use lspci, like this: $ lspci [...] 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 8029 $ lspci -v -s 00:0b.0 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 8029 Subsystem: Unknown device 10ec:8029 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 10 I/O ports at d000 Problem is: [507 pollux:~] dpkg -s pciutils Package: pciutils [...] Description: PCI Utilities for 2.1.82 and later This package contains various utilities for inspecting and setting of devices connected to the PCI bus. Requires kernel version 2.1.82 or newer (supporting the /proc/bus/pci interface). Anyway, I remember I just did "modprobe ne_pci" and it worked (kernel 2.1.1xx) Marcelo
Re: wmaker 0.19
On Sun, Sep 06, 1998 at 01:20:33AM +, Robert Wilderspin wrote: > 1. As root, run ldconfig. If that fixes it, please report it back to > me. (I *hope* it doesn't fix it) [note: look at the bug-reporting > system to find out who "me" is] I know... do I get a prize or something?!? ;-) > 2. If 1. fails, upgrade to a newer version of xlib6g. You can pick > the one in debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/x11/xlib6g_3.3.2.3-1.deb > This fixed the problem for another user. (1.) won't work (yipee!!); 2. will; the problem is an ancient version of xlib6g. I have talked with the maintainer of X about this. 0.19.2 will have this problem fixed (/me hopes) Marcelo
Re: wmaker
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 11:22:13AM -0500, Michael Montz wrote: > Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > (Before somebody asks: I *am* uploading -- or trying to -- 0.19.1-1 right > > now) > > Has this happen yet? I just checked. wmaker has been installed on slink and it's available on the incoming directory of ftp.windowmaker.org Marcelo
Re: WindowMaker 0.19.1 or close to it.
On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 09:47:24PM -0500, Jeremy Hinegardner wrote: > I don't know who packages WindowMaker me. > but is one of the newer versions going to be packaged soon? they are. (0.19.0-2 is on slink right now; 0.19.1-1 is making it's way to incoming directories) > I checked several of the ftp sites and the latest .deb for wmaker is > 0.14.1 which is what shipped with the CD. I'm dead sure ftp.windowmaker.org has newer versions (0.17.5-3 or something close), but I don't remember the path. It's on ftp://ftp.windowmaker.org/pub/beta/. http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/wmaker/ has newer versions, too (0.19.1-1 after it finishes uploading) > I would like to have a newer versions if possible. I know I could download > the direct source and install it that way but I would prefer a debian > package. New versions are installed on slink, not hamm. Hamm is stable, that means it doesn't change. If you trust me not to screw up, you can add this to your apt sources.list: deb http://master.debian.org/~mmagallo packages/ You'll get wmaker, asclock, libproplist, wmakerconf, wdm (soon, it's not there yet, but all of these is on slink), login.app, wmmount, and others. Marcelo
Re: WindowMaker 0.17.4-5 and local additions
On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 08:59:09AM +0200, Torsten Hilbrich wrote: > Is there is any place in /usr/local, where I can safely add > WindowMaker themes for all users? I already checked the locations > defined in /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker and the docs in /usr/doc/wmaker, but > could only find /usr/share/WindowMaker and > ~/GNUStep/Library/WindowMaker. However, I would prefer a local > directory to prevent possible collisions with the package itself. Go ahead an make a /usr/local/share/WindowMaker/Themes dir, and put something like "Themes" OPEN_MENU /usr/local/share/WindowMaker/Themes ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Themes WITH setstyle you just have to modify /etc/X11/WindowMaker/appearace.menu (If the directory doesn't exists, WindowMaker complains, if the directory exists but it's empty, it's ok... I'll condired this for future releases) Marcelo
Re: wmaker
On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 03:04:12PM -0500, Rick Knebel wrote: > When I check with dpkg it says that wmaker-traditional is uninstalled. $ dpkg --purge wmaker-traditional? $ dpkg -l wmaker\* I have: $ dpkg -l wmaker\* ii wmaker 0.19.1-1 Yet another window manager. This the next st ii wmaker-data 0.6-1 Several GPLed pixmaps for use with WindowMak pn wmaker-sound (no description available) rc wmaker-superflu 0.16.0-0 WindowMaker compiled with superfluous option rc wmaker-traditio 0.16.0-0 WindowMaker compiled *without* newstyle opti ii wmakerconf 0.6-1 GTK+ based configuration tool for WindowMake ii wmakerconf-data 0.17.5-1 Datafile for wmakerconf, a configuration too (Before somebody asks: I *am* uploading -- or trying to -- 0.19.1-1 right now) Marcelo
Re: windowmaker
On Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 07:16:02PM -0500, Rick Knebel wrote: > If anyone is using windowmaker out there could you tell me if there is a > file to edit the popup menus and where it is located. You mean, what file to edit? Please read: /usr/doc/wmaker/README.Debian /usr/doc/menu/README* Specifically what do you want to edit? There are *several* files. What version of WindowMaker do you have installed? Marcelo
Re: Windowmaker 0.17 and fr locales
On Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 11:57:40PM +0200, Eric Jacoboni wrote: > Now, when i start wmaker, i've a menu that only contains XTerm and > Exit options. The console says : "WindowMaker error : Default DB : > could not access menu menu.hook.fr : no such file or directory". Hmmf... what if you: $ ln -s /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook would that work? It's not elegant by any ammount but I *think* it should work. (Perhaps that's what the submiter of a similar bug report meant?) Marcelo, who's starting to pull his hair off on 0.19.0
Re: Help with Smartlist + Sender: root
On Fri, Aug 28, 1998 at 01:42:14PM +0200, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote: > However, this would perhaps encourage the bad habit of using the root > account for sending mail. Another thing you could do would be to tell the > NT user not to use the root account for sending mail ;-) I have asked arround, and it's the NT MTA that's setting the Sender field to "Sender: root@". The user swears he's sending the mail from a regular account using Netscape Mail. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it. Digging into the manual, I found this: SmartList usually does not accept submissions or subscriptions from daemons. If you'd like to make an exception for some, you can do this by tuning the daemon_bias variable. A sample template can be found in the rc.init file. This variable can of course be set in the rc.init, rc.custom or rc.local files. Instead of directly specifying a weight and a regexp, you can just specify a weight. You'll then have to make sure that the variable is set only when mail from your special daemons arrives. The scary regexp that procmail uses to decide that something is coming from a daemon (FROM_DAEMON) includes a test to catch "Sender:.*root". I want to keep all the tests but this one. What I can't find now is a reference to "weighting" in the procmail manpages. How's the weight suppossed to work? daemon_bias = 0 Sender:.*root ^ What do I put here. A higher number to get the regexp recognized as a daemon or a lower number to get it NOT recognized as a daemon. Thanks again, Marcelo
Help with Smartlist + Sender: root
Hi, I'm having a problem setting up a mailing list with Smartlist. One of the subscribers is being held hostage to an NT system ;-) and for some reason it says "Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]". Smartlist doesn't like it and rejects mails. The point is he can't change the Sender line, so I have to change Smartlist. The point... how?!?!? There's a daemon_bias setting, but I can't figure out from rc.submit how that works... what does this mean: * 9876543210^0 something else it says: * something * $$daemon_bias * something and daemon_bias is just a number. Any ideas? TIA, Marcelo
Re: Help with Windowmaker
On Sun, Aug 23, 1998 at 02:12:31PM +1000, BG Lim wrote: > 1. Its using my 'Windows Start' key as the 'Meta' key. Seems to be only a > problem with WindowMaker, not the other window managers like icewm or kde. > I'm using the deb packages found at the windowmaker ftp site. WindowMaker is kind of picky about modifier keys (0.18.1b is *lots* pickier, that's one of the reasons why I haven't released it yet). You may want to use xkeycaps to find out wich key is Mod1 and Meta. I have the right control key set to Mod3 and Meta_R, and I tell WindowMaker to use mod3 for the modifier key in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker ModifierKey = mod3; (easier than using xkeycaps, type xmodmap at the prompt) > 2. I can't compile wmmount and wmcdplay. Both packages are by Sam Hawker. I ran into this... for some reason the patch doesn't have this... hmmfff... try adding "CC=g++" to the Imakefile. Run xmkmf -a, then make. Or install the packages (they are in slink, in the utils and sound section) > I've emailed him two at GeoCities, but both mails have been sent back. Yes, I haven't heard from Sam in a long time... Marcelo
apache+NamedVirtualHost == oops!
Hi, I'm setting up a named virtual host with apache (http://www.linux.or.cr/) on the same machine that runs our web server (http://www.efis.ucr.ac.cr/). Up until now, everything is going smoothly, except for one little tiny buggy detail... http://www.efis.ucr.ac.cr/debian/ exists because there's an alias directive for /debian/; but I found that http://www.linux.or.cr/debian/ *also* exists (nice side effect, but a side effect anyways). Is there a way arround this? I can't mix the linux.or.cr site with the efis.ucr.ac.cr site... Do I have to use a named virtual host on efis.ucr.ac.cr and more all the srm directives to the side? Also (I couldn't work this out the manual... I know it *is* in there somewhere); do the VirtualHost directives get inherited from the "regular" configuration. I mean, if I set, say, MultiViews on the regular host, does the virtual host also get MultiViews, or do I have to explicitly use MultiViews on the VirtualHost? Thanks, Marcelo
Re: Yet another WindowMaker question...
On Mon, Aug 17, 1998 at 05:20:13PM +0200, Waldemar ¯urowski wrote: > I'm sorry for such trival question, but I'm really stuck. I just deleted > my ~/GNUstep directory, and now I don't know how to customize popup menu. Hmmm... you start WindowMaker with "wmaker", right? If you take a look at /usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker, you'll see that's just a sh script that creates the directory if it doesn't exists... > Until now I knew that I have to edit menu.hook file. Editing menu.hook is bad, really bad. Unless of course you mean you "cp /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook", and you *don't* run update-menus. > Unfortunatelly right now I don't have any of such file - and I think > that's good - but also I don't know where to put my own menu items. Ok. You can a) edit ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu and change "menu.hook" to, say, "my_menu" b) Create a file "my_menu" in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker; you can optionally include: "Debian Apps" OPEN_MENU menu.hook somewhere in the menu. c) (as root) cp /usr/lib/menu/wmaker /etc/menu/wmaker and edit the /etc file removing anything you *don't* want in the "Debian Apps" menu, for example, the Exit commands under WindowManagers, or the WorkSpaces command under WorkSpace... be creative, and send changes and suggestions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] d) (as root) run "update-menus" and voílà, you have the menus the way you want them. e) Optionally, if you want to add your own items to the "Debian Apps" menu, create files in /etc/menu/ for the items you want there. (And read the menu documentation -- you have menu installed, don't you?) Marcelo
Re: Scilab 2.4 x WindowMaker
On Sat, Aug 08, 1998 at 04:01:25PM -0300, Paulo José da Silva e Silva wrote: > Today I´ve compiled the scilab 2.4 math package > (http://www-rocq.inria.fr/scilab/) in my Debian 2.0 machine. Compiling > was smooth. > > But I got a weird surprise after that. Every time scilab tries to open a > graphic window, the window maker (WindowMaker 0.17.5) doesn´t do it. I > blame window maker since it works under fvwm2. Does it give you an error? Look in ~/.xsession-errors (I'm Cc'ing the WindowMaker list -- guys, please Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; I think it's ok to take debian-user@lists.debian.org out of the Cc list) Marcelo
Re: CLUE: [Fwd: WordPerfect 8 for Linux Prerelease]]
On Fri, Aug 07, 1998 at 08:44:44AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: > Hopefully they'll come out with Quattro Pro one of these days. Does anybody know what those other files are? -rw-rw-rw- 1 1002 10 2838533 Aug 7 09:01 linuxgui00.gz -rw-rw-rw- 1 1002 10 1079665 Aug 7 09:01 linuxgui01.gz -rw-rw-rw- 1 1002 10 3953832 Aug 7 09:01 linuxgui02.gz -rw-rw-rw- 1 1002 10 5577576 Aug 7 09:01 linuxgui03.gz -rw-rw-rw- 1 1002 10 3896832 Aug 7 09:02 linuxgui04.gz -r--r--r-- 1 1002 10 38139774 Aug 6 16:30 linuxgui8.tar.gz The readme says "download linuxgui8.tar.gz", but doesn't say what are the other files... I suspect is a "broken down" version... or maybe they updated the readme after I took a look. Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: wmaker 0.14.1 autostart file location.
On Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 08:01:21PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote: > $ wmsetbg /usr/share/wallpaper/foo.jpg You can put: WorkspaceBack = (tpixmap, "file.jpg", black); in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WindowMaker tpixmap was introduced in 0.14.1, so it should work with your current WindowMaker. You can also use: wmsetbg [-t|-s] -u image -t is for tiling, and -s is for scaling. This will update the above mentioned file. Read wmsetbg(1x), that's what I wrote it for! ;-) > However, the most currently packaged wmaker I can find for Debian is > 0.14.1 and the latest is 0.17.5, and most documentation for wmaker off the > web and the official windowmaker.org site seems to apply to 0.15 and > above. You can fetch wmaker from debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/x11/wmaker_0.17.5-2.deb You'll need (I think) libpng2, also from slink. BEWARE: 0.17.5 *does* have crashing bugs (0.14.1 also has crashing bugs, but some have been patched in the debian release). It works just fine for me, but YMMV. Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: where...
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 05:36:35PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: > Once again i need help. Where is ssl.h! It used to be in ssleay but not > anymore. I've looked but in the non-US there is no COntents file so i > really can't find the darn thing. Can someone give me a hand. You are right, there's no Contents there... (/me thinks a bug should be filed against nonus.debian.org) The file is probably in libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb, in non-US: $ dpkg --contents hamm/binary-i386/libssl08-dev_0.8.1-7.deb | grep ssl.h -rw-r--r-- root/root 46150 1998-07-06 07:48 usr/include/ssl/ssl.h Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Where can I find...
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:05:24PM +0100, Mario Filipe wrote: > Well what package contains : > Xm/Xm.h > Xm/Text.h > Xm/List.h > Xm/ToggleB.h If you have a Debian CD-ROM, look for the file Contents-i386 (or Contents-i386.gz) and then $ grep Xm/Xm.h Contents-i386 or $ zgrep Xm/Xm.h Contents-386.gz on the right side of the screen you'll see things like devel/foobar-dev That means that the package foobar-dev in section devel contains the file you are looking for. Or look in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, near the bottom of the page there's a search form entitled "Search the Contents of the lastest release". Marcelo PS: It's in devel/lesstifg-dev -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: [OFF TOPIC] How to obtain molecules' pictures when using LaTeX ?
On Fri, Jul 31, 1998 at 04:03:53PM +0200, Max Lawson wrote: > Actually, I'd like to know if there's sthg like "Chemdraw" in the GNU > environment ? I could use xfig, but it looks like overkill, isn't it ? :-/ Look in CTAN for chemsym, ppchtex (Plain TeX), xymtex (latex209) CTAN is http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/catalogue.html or try SAL (http://sal.kachinatech.com/, specifically http://sal.kachinatech.com/Z/2/ -- but look for a mirror first!!!) Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: good digital clock for x?
On Tue, Jul 21, 1998 at 09:21:56PM -0500, the lone gunman wrote: > Hello -- are there any deb packages that have a digital clock that I can > swallow in an x module (specifically, FvwmButtons)? I'd prefer one that > does military time, and perhaps the date, too :) Try asclock, debian://slink/main/binary-i386/x11/asclock*.deb, replace debian:// with the partial URL to your favorite Debian mirror, up to the dists directory. Or look in http://windowmaker.org/ for "WindowMaker Apps", and look for wmtime. It has a *really* nice analog clock. Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
[hartr@redhat.com: People using Linux in test/measurement applications]
This comes from another mailing list. It says RH, but I'd guess it's alright for some Debian users to jump in. Marcelo--- Begin Message --- Hi Red Hat has been approached by a UK test and measurement magazine for information about people using Linux in test/measurement situations (including data acquisition). Is there anyone here who is able to talk about this with a journalist in the UK (I anticipate that email discussion would be fine)? The relevant contact information is:- David Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Contributing Technical Editor, T&MW Forncett Engineers Tabernacle Lane Forncett Norwich NR16 1LE U.K. tel/fax: +44 (0)1953 789 619 (24 hours) Many thanks, -- Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Red Hat Software Inc. Phone: +1-919-547-0012 Fax: +1-919-547-0024 4201 Research Commons Suite 100, 79 TW Alexander Dr., Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA --- End Message ---
Re: new xbase -- no window manager started
On Fri, Jul 17, 1998 at 12:53:46PM -0700, Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote: > I assumed "Xsession" was the one at /etc/X11/Xsession... > > It worked as a charm. Thanks. Can you tell me what is this all about? > Is it a bug I should report? I don't know exactly where the bug is, but it has been reported. The end result is that that link is missing. Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: new xbase -- no window manager started
On Fri, Jul 17, 1998 at 11:28:40AM -0700, Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella wrote: > Any clue? $ ln -s ../Xsession /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
2.1.106 + kmod + netcard?
Hi, I just compiled 2.1.106, and I'm having this problem: Jun 23 07:56:48 pollux kernel: ne.c: module auto-load (kmod) support not present. Jun 23 07:56:48 pollux kernel: ne.c: unable to auto-load required 8390 module. Jun 23 07:56:48 pollux kernel: ne.c: try "modprobe 8390" as root 1st. Jun 23 07:56:48 pollux kernel: ne.c: No NE*000 card found at i/o = 0x220 I'm sure kmod is there. I checked on the .config file: # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y include/config/kmod.h defines CONFIG_KMOD $ cat include/config/kmod.h #define CONFIG_KMOD 1 and it has been working ok so far (first kernel with kmod - 2.1.104) I'm not sure, but it only happens with the netcard module... Has anybody seen this? I'm using an up-to-date hamm system... TIA, Marcelo PS: edge.linuxhq.com mentions some CRC error while booting, but nothing else... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Window Maker
On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 12:12:32PM -0400, Matt Kopishke wrote: > Would any one happen to now were I might find Window Maker > (windowmaker.org) in a debian pakage (.deb). Thanks, You can find it for glibc2 systems (aka, hamm) on debian mirrors under debian/dists/hamm/main/binary-i386/x11/wmaker_0.14.1-6.deb. You'll need some other packages (libproplist0, libwraster0 are not likely to be installed on your system), and wmaker-superfluous if you want the superfluos stuff (or wmaker-traditional if you want the 0.6.3 look) You can also find 0.15.1 in debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/x11/wmaker_0.15.1-0.deb Or you can fetch debian/dists/slink/main/source/x11/wmaker* if you want to build it for libc5, but you'll need at least debhelper and libproplist-dev for that... I hope this helps, Marcelo, Debian WindowMaker maintainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and Afterstep1.4.5.3-1
On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 08:27:10AM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: > Dock appears to do nothing but be a place to dock things to. Fiend does > this too, but it's not glued to a side and I can't get the window manager > to move it to an out of the way place. you can collapse the Fiend (renamed to Clip on 0.15.x) double clicking it... you can move it to a corner, on the same side as the dock, and it works pretty fine for me... > Fiend either needs to become docked or replace the dock icon or something > if it's not going to annoy me significantly. you can "wmaker -nodock" and it will have no dock, move the fiend to a side, and collapse it... you can even run "wmaker -nodock -nofiend"... be warned: this will kill the dock configuration (you are essentially asking to clear the dock and the fiend, so this behaviour is NOT a bug) > Essentially, it doesn't feel right to me and it doesn't help that I have > no idea how to do anything I haven't described here with it. The config > files looked more like a C program or a sh script than a file with > settings and the like. There's a program to aid configuring WindowMaker, but I haven't had the chance to package it... look in /usr/doc/wmaker/README.Debian, I put some pointers there for documentation... Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP needed w/ libtool using compile
On Wed, Jun 03, 1998 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > I am trying to install several programs from source that use the libtool > program to compile. The compilation goes through without a hitch, however > the libfoo.so files all say "statically linked" when looked at by ldd. Has > anyone looked into this? What can I give to help debug this? It is a FRESH > 2.0 install (2 hours old). No original bo. I used Dale's pre 2.0 CD. > Install went fine and I have edited nothing but ppp. Look in: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9802/msg01322.html Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to build Debian Linux cluster?
On Thu, May 07, 1998 at 03:59:39PM -0400, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: > > I've seen several responses point you to Beowulf. Check it out. > I have a look. It's much more than we want or capable of doing. You > build supercomputer out of small computers connected with fast network, so > that speed of calculation is proportional to the number of Linux boxes. Almost proportional. What some people don't get (or don't want to) is the the speed of the network is a very limiting factor. If you want to build a Beowulf cluster on top of El Cheapo NE-2000 10 Mbps, it won't work. But doing the same using Good Ethernet 100 Mbps achieves quite a lot... I can dig my bookmarks if you are interested. The other limiting factor is homogeneousness . On top of a homogeneous MPI cluster, the thing performs quite well. On top of *extremely* heterogeneous PVM cluster performance suffers a LOT, unless of course you design the programs with this in mind, but that's an entirely different issue. Hands on experience beats any book or reference here. > They succeded in solving problems like fluid motion and multi-body > gravitational calculations, and speed is indeed proportional to number of > linux boxes, not quite linearly though. It would be probably too ambitious > for us. It depends on the scale of problems you are after. 100**3 grids on fluid dynamics (quite small) take any available PC down to its knees. 50x50 lattices (which can prove useful for certain kind of research) can be handled reasonably fast on most modern PC's, being a little pattient. Being potentially intrusive, at Fermi *there's* a Beowulf cluster running. Cheers, Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Diskless Debian, Shared /usr, etc...
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 09:13:58PM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote: > Thanks -- that was an excellent idea. I had to massage nfsroot into > working with libc6, but it was a great starting point. My client is > now taking up 2100K -- not bad. Could you plubish the patched nfsroot somewhere? It would be useful for quite a few ppl. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convert RedHat install to Debian ..
On Wed, Apr 29, 1998 at 02:37:00PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > Now for the hashed over part. Is there a sane and reasonable > way to either convert an existing RedHat machine to Debian, or > to start the Debian install from what I have now? Remember, I > can't use the Debian boot disk. (I thought someone had a URL > for this) I did this once (but don't tell anyone because I wasn't supposed to do that). What I did was take dpkg's package and extract its contents using ar (.deb's are an ar file). I then extracted the tar file (there are two tars in there, data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz) on /. This gave me a dpkg to begin with. I proceded to satisfy dpkg's dependencies (libc, libstdc++, ncurses) by repeating the same procedure with the requiered files. Please note this is VERY dangerous because you are overwriting the libc (I did this with an RH 5 installation) and many programs may break due to some sloppyness in RH. To get dpkg working you have to touch some files (I cann't tell this by heart) in /var/lib/dpkg. You also have to copy the control files for the packages just "installed". The next thing I did, as I got a working dpkg, was install every deb in base (this conflicts with RH boot method and some other stuff, you have to be patient here, and it's better if you have as little RH as possible). From here everything went very smoothly, because after installing base/*.deb it's just like having installed Debian using the floppies. There are some gotchas left, but nothing big, as I remember. I hope this helps somehow... Marcelo PS: As I was on a stealth mission at the time I had to do everything as quickly as possible, and I hadn't the chance to take notes; maybe you can take some and share the results? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How much HD is necessary to mirror Debian x86?
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Ulisses Alonso Camaro wrote: > I want to download the entire Debian hamm distribution _for > Intel only_ (just binary-i386, isn't it?) How much HD is > necessary? Just yesterday I put Debian 2.0 (main + contrib; binary-i386 + disks-i386) on a CD-ROM, flattening symlinks from i386 to all, plus kernel 2.1.90 and patches up to 2.1.96 (bz2, not gzip), and all of that fitted on 636 MB. There are a few missing files, and hamm is still changing. I was testing a CD-R and I wanted the test files to be something worthy ;-). Oh, yes, I also pruned the Packages files (I left just Packages.gz) You need hamm/main/binary-i386, hamm/main/binary-all, hamm/contrib/binary-i386, hamm/contrib/binary-all, hamm/main/disks-i386. indices and doc are good to have, too. For my next CD, I hope I remember to throw in project/experimental/apt*_i386.deb, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFF TOPIC] Linus Torvalds, the man of the century
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Tamas Papp wrote: > > I don't think 'debian-flame' would be quite appropriate. How about > > debian-discussion, or debian-advocacy or something? > It's a good idea, "flame" was just a thought (after the Hungarian list > linux-flame). The name debian-discussion would be quite appropriate for > the topics that I mentioned. So, how can we start this list? Who is the > person to ask? That'd be [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are several ppl in charge of list administration. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deity looks AWESOME
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: > I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to > remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X). This is Debian we are talking about... ;-) deity runs both under X11 and text. I have got used to dselect, but Deity is way way better from the current previews. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: > I think I found something which might explain the problem with > windowmaker. > > $ less ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu > "menu.hook" > > menu.hook is missing. IIRC it was there previously. Yikes! Can I see /etc/menu-methods/wmaker? Have you edited the file? The wmaker configuration files have been moved from /etc/X11/wmaker to /etc/X11/WindowMaker. If the menu-method points to the old directory nothing will work. WindowMaker crashes pretty bad against the old configuration files (that wasn't the reason why I moved the directory, BTW). I'd like to have a bit more feedback on this. I'm fixing this little surprises, but I haven't had much input to work with. Anything will be appreciatted. Marcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WindowMaker maintainer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menus don't show up in hamm
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote: > Windowmaker only shows the xterm and exit commands on the menu, while > afterstep shows several others, but none of the packages I have installed > show up even though the files exist in /usr/lib/menu and update-menus has > been run. This one's my fault. Do this: $ echo \"menu.hook\" > ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu and that should be it. I haven't figured a way of fixing this. The problem is the WMRootMenu is either: the menu or, as in the solution I provide, the name of the file with the menu. If you just say "menu.hook" it will look for ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook or /etc/X11/WindowMaker/menu.hook Hope that wasn't much trouble. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD K6 233
On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, M.C. Bezemer wrote: > A few hunderd messages ago someone (I believe 't was Wolf > Logan) had a problem installing Debian. He mentioned that he > had an AMD K6/200. I am thinking about buying a K6/233, but > would linux run clearly with it? Has anyone experience with > this? I have K6/200, K5/133, Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium MMX and 486 all running hamm just fine. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I use cyrillic fonts?
Hi, somebody here wants to use cyrillic fonts under X11 (Emacs 20, really). I have installed the xfntcyr package, but Emacs doesn't "see" the fonts. It lists iso-8859-5 as the font for cyrillic instead of koi8-r. The option on the menu that says koi8-r (display faces, or something like that) doesn't show the characters, but blocks. I know emacs can "read" cyrillic, and display that on screen, but *I* don't know how. I'm sure he'll ask me eventually how to use TeX (or LaTeX) with cyrillic fonts... any pointers? As a side note, can GNUS use the cyrillic fonts? I'll compile the answers, and try do put them together for inclusion on the faq. Any help will be much welcomed. Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anybody know how to tell for how long has ppp-if been up?
On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Tim Sailer wrote: > > I'm looking into hacking asmodem/wmppp to make one of them display > > for how long has the ppp line been up, but I don't have a clue on how to > > do that. Any ideas? > > How about looking at the time/date the tty lock file was created? I thought of that, but the time is the time the modem got locked. Which is close, but in some circumstances not close enough (I there isn't a better option, I'll use that) Thanks Tim, Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP to multiple Internet Provider
On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Niccolo Rigacci wrote: > I think this is a simple task of writing some scripts, but does Debian > have something already done? The ppp on hamm does this. You can say "pon provider". The newest proposal to ppp on hamm, will (I think) address the second situation. You way want to fetch the source packge and take a look at the scripts (they are really simple) Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nolock option to NFS?
Hi, I have experienced some problems with locking and NFS, and finally gave up and added "nolock" to the client options. Now I wonder... what does it do? Does it trap the the fcntl calls and ignores them? Marcelo -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free TrueType Fonts?
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Ender Wigin wrote: > > Does anybody know where can I find free (Debian Free, not just $0) > > TrueType fonts? It's for an upcoming Debian package... > > Actualy look on the microsoft web site they have some and links to some > that are actuly public domain, Microsoft says there for web pages and so > forth but they work great with gimp (Not shure you would want to > package Microcrap stuff but oh well. Saw those. The license is... surprise, surprise... non DFSG complaint. Marcelo -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Free TrueType Fonts?
Hi, Does anybody know where can I find free (Debian Free, not just $0) TrueType fonts? It's for an upcoming Debian package... Marcelo -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pentium II performance?
On 16 Feb 1998, Ben Pfaff wrote: > Can you point me to the source code for the benchmark? I can run it > on my PII/233 for comparison if you want. and Alex Yukhimets: > Same here, only with PII/300. You can find the source code here: http://www.efis.ucr.ac.cr/~mmagallo/flops_p.c This is extracted from the flops program written by Al Burto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). This is just module 1, using 7 sums, 6 mults, 1 div. I think I got this from http://www.hensa.ac.uk/parallel/ or netlib. Compiling with gcc -O2 gives a bit more than 39 on the PII. Using egcc (1.0.1-0.3) with -mpentiumpro gives almost 40.9 Many thanks in advance. Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: afterstep config file in /tmp
On 13 Feb 1998, Gilbert Laycock wrote: > Does anybody have any idea what causes the steprc not to be deleted > for some users? I suspect something in the personal setup files (this is > a student lab, and once somebody gets a nice looking setup it tends to > be copied around), but since I am not an afterstep user I haven't been > able to spot anything untoward in the .steprc files concerned. That file is there because afterstep cpp's the configuration files (either /etc/X11/afterstep/system.steprc or ~/.steprc) and put the result there. It fails to delete it if the user zaps the xserver (C-A-backspace). Maybe newer versions of AS don't have this problem (it's 1.4 already, and there's a whislist bug filed against the current Debian package) Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
[OFF-TOPIC] Pentium II performance?
Hi, I know this is off topic, but I don't have access to cola (and newsgroups in general) and I feel more confortable asking here, because I want Linux specific answers. Ten days ago a professor here bought a Pentium II/233 system. He promptly installed Debian on it, and let me use it for my (thesis) work. First thing I did was to benchmark the thing using a program of my own. This program says a Pentium MMX/166 (my old pc) gives about 24 Mflop/s. A Pentium/100 is about 16 Mflop/s. If the numbers are accurate or not, is not in dispute now. What's important is the relative speed, and I find the numbers quoted to be reasonable. (For those curious, it's 3 sums, 3 multiplications, 1 division) The PII says 39 Mflop/s. Over the weekend, I bargained a PMMX/233, which says 33 Mflops/s. I don't find this this reasonable at all! Taking as a reference the performance leap from a 486DX4 -> Pentium (same clock speed) I was kinda hoping something near 80 Mflop/s for the PII (yes, I know, it's silly to take that as a reference, but one can only hope) I know I'm not playing fair comparing the systems this way (different kernels, memory, chipset, ...) but I was hoping somebody could give better statistics on this. I'd really appreciate if somebody can help me on this one. We are planing to build a Debian-based compute farm, and the cost difference between PII's and plain Pentium's could translate into a big difference in the number of hosts installed. Side note: K5/133 = 9; K6/200 = 31; 486/66 = 4; RISC 9000 = 18; VAX 3000... oops, forgot about it, but it was surprisingly low. TIA, Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Window-manager?
On 29 Jan 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Are there any screen shots of wmaker? Or any comparisons with > fvwm2? I have a fairly complex console (dock) set up in fvwm2, and I > would like a little bit of incentive to change ;-) It depends on what you are looking for. There are screenshots in http://www.windowmaker.org/, and http://x.unicom.net/themes/wm/ (take a look at the second location if you are in a hurry) WindowMaker tries to be fast and simple. The motto is something like "making a better NeXTStep", but I have to admit, it's not quite there, yet. WindowMaker's Dock isn't as complex (read: featureful) as fvwm2's console. It's not even as complex as AfterStep's. There's some ppl working on extensions, but no real work as been done yet. I'm quite happy with it. But that's me. For example, WM doesn't have a pager, and I don't miss it, because it has WorkSpaces... What I'm trying to say is "try it, it's the only way". Cheers, Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PGP Which?
On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > pinepgp depends on pgp and i went to ftp.de.debian.org and i found pgp_i > and pgp_us. Which one shoud i pick? in any case i think that dpkg will > complain. You mean if you pick the "other one"? No, it will not. Since you are in Chile, you need pgp-i Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape is now re-distributable and should be included in Debian.
On 23 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am communicating with Netscape's VP Client Products. They are still > determining the license details, and I will do my best to convince > them to use straight GPL or LGPL, or something DFSG-compliant. Bruce, I think Peter was talking about 4.0, not 5.0. It's 5.0's source code that NS will make available. 4.0 is just costless. Since source code is not available, it's still non-free. But yes, a new package is desireable. WRT 5.0 license, I hope you can talk them into using GPL or LGPL. Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: New Smail, how to use offline? *BIG WARNING*
On 23 Jan 1998, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > Time to revert to smail from bo and do further tests on a spare machine. This happened to me, too. I lost mail from mailing lists, so for me it wasn't that bad. Anyway, I (almost) removed smail from the equation. I have: . smail: queues mail and delivers it when the connection is up. Call it MTA from home to ISP. . fetchmail: this acts as MTA from ISP to home and... . procmail: this is my MDA. This puts mail where it belongs; no smail here Additionaly, I use pine. It's configured to PIPE mail using sendmail (that is, smail) instead of contacting localhost on port 25. In this way, it doesn't check FROM and TO addresses. Marcelo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
