Re: Reading WordPerfect files
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 01:43:37PM -0400, D-Man wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001, Andrew Perrin wrote: Okay folks - I've started getting lots of files in WordPerfect format ( seems to be the default for some people in my department). Any advice on reading them? StarOffice doesn't seem to be happy with them, and I can't get WP from Corel to run on my system (Debian 2.2r3): hm269-26876:/usr/local/wp/wpbin# ./xwp ./xwp: can't load library 'libXt.so.6' I think there is a statically compiled version somewhere. If not search in old packages to find the old library it needs (IIRC WP and Netscape were both linked against old libs such as libc5 and old imaging libs). You need the following from oldlibs: a) xlib6 b) libc5 c) xpm4.7 (and maybe glibc2.1 if not installed, for running programs built with gnu/ egcs compiler 1.1.x.) | I don't have a need to alter or even view the formatting | Iof these files, 'd just like to get the information out | Iof them. Any advice? strings filename.wp8 textfile ... This should give you all the text that you need along with some amount of junk. Good enough for small texts. And if it is for an overview of material ... then good enough ! As Faheem suggested, I seem to recall that AbiWord could work with WP, to some extent anyways. Now that I think about it a bit more, it may have needed translation to an old (ie 95) Word format from WP to read it. Good to hear that it read MS Word2k files. Never got abiword to read WP8 format, unless saved as RTF. Abiword can read M$ .doc format though ... sarcasm Gotta love those amazingly interroperable proprietary formats. /sarcasm I've recently been learning what a great format LaTeX is, once you know how to achieve the formatting you want. Unfortunately, most of the lay world is still not convinced !! Alas ! -D HTH USM Bish
Re: wordperfect on linux
This segmentation fault problems can at best be attempted by guess-work. This is my guess ... could be wrong ! No harm in giving it a try. I had installed WP8 on my slink box, and thereafter upgraded to potato, package by package WP8 never broke in the transition. Some of my old lib files are still hanging around. I vaguely remember having seen something about glibc version in the WP8 docs I just checked my box. I seem to be having glibc2.1 (viz libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1) from oldlibs also installed. This package contains an additional runtime library for C++ programs built with the gnu/egcs compiler version 1.1.x. I am not quite sure, but this may give a clue. USM Bish On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 06:08:36PM -0400, Agner-Nichols wrote: the saga continues -- (thanks again for all the help) I cleaned up the symbolic links (had already installed xlib6, libc5, and xpm4.7) so the character-based install worked (and I managed to trap the install script so I could get some idea why it did not want to initiate the gui install) ... Anyway, I get a segmentation fault when I run xwp (no explanation, just 'segmentation fault'). Is there a way to trap what is causing the segmentation fault?
Re: wordperfect on linux
Script output (below) is for wp8: # aedes:/opt/wp8/wpbin$ ldd xwp libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 (0x4000c000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libX11.so.6 (0x4004f000) libXpm.so.4 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXpm.so.4 (0x400f) libm.so.5 = /lib/libm.so.5 (0x400fe000) libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x40107000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libSM.so.6 (0x401c5000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libICE.so.6 (0x401ce000) aedes:~$ dpkg -S libc5-compat xlib6, libc5, xpm4.7: /usr/lib/libc5-compat [rest clipped] # You would need: a) xlib6 (oldlibs) b) libc5 (oldlibs) c) xpm4.7 (oldlibs) HTH USM Bish On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 07:57:50PM -0500, ktb wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 08:25:50PM -0400, Agner-Nichols wrote: I am trying to install WordPerfect on Linux -- it is set up to use a 2.0.8 kernel, but I am running Potato 2.2.12, and I get a 'cannot open libXt.so.6' message when I start WordPerfect. In Potato, libXt.so.6 is in /usr/X11R6/lib. Anyone recall where the 2.0 kernel points for libXt.so.6. Any help is appreciated. Look at the thread Mosaic: can't find library 'libXt.so.6' and Thanks that hit the list today. You have the same problem with a different program. If you have deleted them check http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Debian-Linux/199/0/ The Mosaic... thread is there already. The Thanks thread basically said try - $ strace wordperfect strace_out or whatever^^^ executable wordperfect uses $ grep libXt.so.6 strace_out Look at where the library is pointing and then create a link there from where your libXt.so.6 actually resides. Run - $ locate libXt.so.6 if it isn't on your machine you will have to install xlib6g. hth, kent
Re: thanks!
Script output: # aedes:~$ dpkg -S libXt.so.6 xlib6g: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 xlib6: /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6 xlib6g: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0 xlib6: /usr/lib/libc5-compat/libXt.so.6.0 # You need to install xlib6 from oldlibs. xlib6g by itself would not suffice libXt.so.6 is a symlink to libXt.so.6.0 in the libc5-compat files provided by xlib6. Usually, if you have these three from oldlibs installed, anthing that used to run before will still run now : a) xlib6b) libc5 c) xpm4.7 HTH USM Bish Script done on Sun Jun 24 12:52:07 2001 On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 11:17:16AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your help! Below is the result: bash-2.01$ grep libXt.so.6 strace_out uselib(/usr/lib/libXt.so.6) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) uselib(/lib/libXt.so.6) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(2, Mosaic: can\'t find library \'li..., 40Mosaic: can't find library 'libXt.so.6' bash-2.01$ su Password: debian:/home/zhou# cp /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 debian:/home/zhou# exit bash-2.01$ Mosaic Mosaic: can't load library '/usr/lib/libXt.so.6' Exec format error Mosaic: can't find library 'libXt.so.6' It seems that i have to compile it myself, but i met the following error msg: --- Building libwww2 cd libwww2; make CC=gcc RANLIB=ranlib CFLAGS=-g make[1]: Entering directory sys_errlist' /usr/include/stdio.h:221: previous declaration of /home/zhou/Mosaic-src/libwww2' make: *** [libwww2] Error 2 Any idea? __ ktb wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 10:07:24AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for your reply! i run the command. below is the result: bash-2.01$ ldd Mosaic libXt.so.6 (DLL Jump 6.0) = not found libX11.so.6 (DLL Jump 6.0) = not found libc.so.4 (DLL Jump 4.5pl26) = not found bash-2.01$ Mosaic is for Linux 1.0, i guess. Before you give up try - $ strace Mosaic strace_out Then - $ grep libXt.so.6 strace_out and see if you can find where Mosaic is looking for the library. hth, kent
Re: Pine
The file where the configuration of file is written is at .pinerc in your home directory ... It is easiest to set up things through the pine Setup options ... In case you want to set it by hand just edit the lines in that file. The relevant lines from my .pinerc which gives [EMAIL PROTECTED] in outgoing mail is here: ##[SNIP from .pinerc]# # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name=bish # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain=nde.vsnl.net.in # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server=202.54.15.75 ## HTH USM Bish On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 05:13:55PM -0600, John Galt wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Nick Furman wrote: What file in the pine directory sets the domain after the @ sign. Example: nfurman@domain.com Setup, Config, user-domain Thanks! Best Regards, Nicholas K. Furman Systems Network Administrator J-Link Computer Internet Services 157 West Main Street Ph:(570)389-6400 Bloomsburg, PA 17815 http://www.jlink.net
Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?
My personal preference is to use HTML presentation on a browser. Totally platform independent. Opera 5 supports full screen (F11 toggle), and it is *actually* the full screen with no browser borders, (unlike IE which still has the browser frame around). This is true for both the Linux and Win-9x versions. All you need is a .gif next and previous link on each individual html slide. The only problem that I face, is that, I need to carry my Opera-5 CD to all venues, and uninstall it on completion of the presentation. Opera-5 is not that common and is not available on most systems. USM Bish On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 11:10:24AM +1000, Graham Williams wrote: Matthias Richter wrote to debian-user on 09 Jun 2001 23:30:41 +1000: Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the facilities of Powerpoint? Matthias I've just completed a presentation using pdflatex Matthias (texpower, hyperref, ifmslides) \ldots so if you're Matthias already very familiar with (pdf)latex you might also use Matthias this cross-plattform way of presenting things nicely ;-) In a similar vane I use the LaTeX prosper package which does a very good job of bringing together texpower, hyperref, ifmslides, in a simple to use and familiar (LaTeX) environment and provides plug-n-play glitz just like powerpoint, all presented using PDF. http://prosper.sourceforge.net/ Regards, Graham
Re: List new packages after an apt-get update
console-apt (capt) does just that. It has three packet
dividers:
a) Updated packages
b) Installed packages (newer version available)
c) Non-installed packages
USM Bish
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:12:11PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JH AFAIK, deity and aptitude do not single out newly available packages.
JH Dselect, however, will do everything you want.
aptitude does call out newly available packages, though it considers a
package 'new' until the new list is explicitly cleared (with 'f'). My
usage with aptitude is generally: update available packages ('u');
expand newly available packages category ('['); install anything I
want out of that list ('+'); clear new list ('f'); expand updated
packages category ('['); examine, resolve conflicts, go ('g').
As far as I'm concerned, though, dselect is a perfectly usable tool; I
mostly use aptitude these days out of peer pressure. :-)
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/
Re: ascii formatting package
There is a powerful perl program which converts text to pdf directly, called txt2pdf. This is a shareware. I forget the URL, but the link is available at freshmeat.net. As far as I recall it was from Sanface Software. I tried it a few months ago ... pretty good. USM Bish On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 10:05:23AM -0700, Robert L. Yelvington wrote: thanks for the suggestion, HH! i believe that the perl option is better for me, text process the ascii doc via perl... sincerely, ~robt Harry Henry Gebel wrote: On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 06:39:22PM -0700, Robert L. Yelvington wrote: can anyone suggest a good package to format ascii docs to be converted to pdf? what i am looking for is something that can outline blocks of text with boxes, selectively shade lines or single words as wells bold, italicize, underline text, etc. i have looked into enscript...but can't figure out how to make it do what I want it to do(YET)... the formatting has got to be done on the fly, from cron for instance and I guess I could use standard PCL or PS and write it myself, but am hoping that there's a simpler (and less time consuming) way to do this... If you adopted formatting guidelines for the ascii text (for example, one blank line is a paragraph, two is a section, three is a chapter, text after an underscore is underlined, etc.) it wouldn't be too hard to write a script in Python or Perl to convert it to docbook; the docbook could then be converted to pdf using any of several tools; alternatively there is a Python library that can generate PDF files directly, so you could write a Python script to generate the PDF directly from the ascii text. -- Harry Henry Gebel West Dover Hundred, Delaware GPG encrypted email gladly accepted. Key ID: B853FFFE Fingerprint: 15A6 F58D AEED 5680 B41A 61FE 5A5F BB51 B853 FFFE Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Subject: Re: filtering email via perl?
Not quite sure about a perl substitute for procmail. In case python suffices, there is a pretty decent e-mail filter called getmail hosted on freshmeat in python. The tarball is about 33k only. The docs are good. Worth a try I have been using it for a few months now. No probs :) USM Bish On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 10:25:26AM -0500, will trillich wrote: okay. procmail and i are getting a divorce. we just don't see eye-to-eye any more. i've seen people post actual perl code here, which somehow filters their email. is that mailagent? (i don't want to give command-line access to you average script-kiddie, so mailagent makes me nervous...) how can i use perl to break emails into various mailfolders? --
Re: real unsubscribing problems
I am leaving town for two weeks ... Unsuscribed about 20 min back using the usual blank message as described below all mails. Confirmation msg was received within 5 min .. No problems at the debain-user end .. at least for today. Will be with you again ... shortly USM Bish On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:25:49AM +, Gary Turner wrote: On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:17:36 +, you wrote: Hi all, been trying to unsubscribe for a while, too much traffic. The unsub instructions aren't working after about 6 tries, and i got no response from [EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone can help, please do. Also can't get off debian-devel. This would appear to be a real problem with the lists. Mark I recently changed ISP's and needed to unsubscribe the old address, and subscribe the new. No prob. I went to debian.org, mailing lists, and filled out the form. I got confirmation and results almost immediately (less than 50 more messages at old address). So, if the instructions at the bottom of this mail don't work for you, try the web site. good luck, g
Re: how to remove auto start to X
Indeed ... that sure will work. Uninstalling will remove everything. As a matter of fact AFAIK the post-removal script of packages call update-rc.d! Since the package itself is not the offender, it does not seem necessary to remove the package. If xdm/ gdm (whatever) needs to be reactivated, only the startup links need re-insertion. To re-insert package foobar links, all that needs to be done is: #update-rc.d foobar defaults Afterall, update-rc.d is a debian-only tool, and IMHO is pretty nifty, and helpful. Saves a lot of de-installation/ re-installation cycles. Just my personal views though. USM Bish On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:02:03AM -0800, Robin Rowe wrote: If you prefer a simpler method simply use dselect to uninstall xdm or whatever X login you are using. When you come up in a console mode launch X using startx. Cheers, Robin On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:58:34AM -0500, seg wrote: I know I could probably find this info in HOWTOs or whatnots, but I am pretty it's quite simple and one of you nice fellows won't mind spending a few lines of text to explain:) I basicly want to boot up in the DOS like interface, no fancy stuff (just running firewall). Thx In Debian if X is installed, by default, boots into xdm gdm etc. depending upon your window manager installation. To avoid this, use [update-rc.d] program, meant for chang- ing init parameters in Sys-V init process. Read man for this. #update-rc.d -f xdm remove You will boot into tty mode therafter, and would have to use startx subsequently to get into X. USM Bish
Re: how to remove Xfree?
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:58:34AM -0500, seg wrote: I know I could probably find this info in HOWTOs or whatnots, but I am pretty it's quite simple and one of you nice fellows won't mind spending a few lines of text to explain:) I basicly want to boot up in the DOS like interface, no fancy stuff (just running firewall). Thx ---end quoted text--- In Debian if X is installed, by default, boots into xdm gdm etc. depending upon your window manager installation. To avoid this, use [update-rc.d] program, meant for chang- ing init parameters in Sys-V init process. Read man for this. #update-rc.d -f xdm remove The things that are done by the script include removal of all system startup links for /etc/init.d/xdm ... i.e. /etc/rc0.d/K01xdm /etc/rc1.d/K01xdm /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm /etc/rc3.d/S99xdm /etc/rc4.d/S99xdm /etc/rc5.d/S99xdm /etc/rc6.d/K01xdm You will boot into tty mode therafter, and would have to use startx subsequently to get into X. USM Bish
Re:
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 10:22:11PM +0900, Susumu Takuwa wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:27:00 +0100 Gary Jones writes: GJ Nothing of interest, how unusual. Did anyone hear anything back from GJ the domain, or are we to take this to MAPS and get the sewer plugged? I requested the person of the domain not to reply for debian-user list. Since some wicked man has subscribed debian-user list to their e-mail address, they were very confused. And they don't understand English, they regard this list's mail as spam. So I requested them in Japanese. Susumu Takuwa Thanks for clearing the situation Susumu. How difficult is it to explain to the folk at unix,inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] the real procedure to unsubscribe to this list ? That will sort out their problems, as well as ours. I am still receiving mail from them. USM Bish
Testing: Please disregard
Re: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 08:13:54PM +0100, William Leese wrote: On Monday 05 February 2001 19:13, USM Bish wrote: On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:42:59 + Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05 Feb 2001, Colin Watson wrote: Do you need gnome, or will it work with any window manager, e.g. icewm (in my case)? Anthony No, I've been using ver 4.0b4 for about a month now. It should work with any window manager. I have tried it with fvwm, blackbox, kde and window-maker. No window manager related problems whatsoever. USM Bish i think he mean't konqueror ;) but the same goes for konqueror aswell, if you install it it will install the necessary kdelibs and should run on any wm. still waiting for Opera 4 to go gold, its a hell of allot quicker than konqueror (on a P60 ;)). William No, I mean Opera beta version 4.0b4 . I do not have konquerer on my box. The thing to be done here is to download the statically linked version (since Opera is linked to kde2), which is not installed on regular potato boxes. If you down load the statically linked version, you can do without installing the kdelibs for kde2. This an issue which is independent of window-manager dependence. I had downloaded the beta in .deb format from one of the links on www.opera.com ( I think Polish, just don't remember) in .deb format few weeks ago. The main site at Netherlands was a bit too busy at that time. This is in response to a subsequent post on this thread. USM Bish
Re: The Next Yahoo
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:44AM +0100, John Travis wrote: On Tuesday 06 February 2001 08:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Hi, debian-user What if Yahoo Paid You ? Now a reality !!! World's first completely commissionable Portal just released. Spam. The other other white meat ;-). jt Is there any way to know if a posting on the list has been paid for, since postings on this list on payment basis is absolutely in order. USM Bish
Re: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:42:59 + Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05 Feb 2001, Colin Watson wrote: Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Konqueror at work for a week or so now after Netscape somehow started crashing my machine hard. I must say that it's a very nice browser, and much faster than Mozilla. You don't need to be running KDE either, which is good for me as I'm a GNOME/sawfish type. Do you need gnome, or will it work with any window manager, e.g. icewm (in my case)? Anthony No, I've been using ver 4.0b4 for about a month now. It should work with any window manager. I have tried it with fvwm, blackbox, kde and window-maker. No window manager related problems whatsoever. USM Bish
Re: SiS 5597/5598 Video Card
Don't know why anXious did not recognise your card. Never used it. Perhaps, xserver-sis in place of xserver-svga could sort out your video support problems. apt-get install xserver-sis AFAIK, this X server supports the SiS 86c201, SiS 86c202, SiS 86c205, SiS 5597, SiS 5598, SiS 6326 AGP, SiS 530/620, SiS 540/630 and SiS 300. The other SiS chipsets are supported by the xserver-svga X server. USM Bish On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:04:48 -0500 Keith Cecile Schooley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently installed Potato (first time using Linux). I have a SiS 5597/5598 video card, which anXious did not recognize. ^^^ So why didn't anXious recognize it? How do I get video support? Thanks for help in advance, Keith
What is bounce-debian-user ?
Hi folk, Just a small clarification. The mail placed below was received by me today from bounce-debian-user. This was NOT initiated by me. Quite surprised to see my name on the LOG (List of Greats!). Did others receive this mail too ? Could someone enlighten me on what this bounce-debian-user is ? TIA USM Bish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:14:27 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: External ISDN device User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:50:52 +0100 Resent-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/130541 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 19a44967b7e84f1aecbd248d4a0458d9 I have to connect a linux box to the Internet through an external ISDN device. I have read the ISDN4Linux stuff but everything there is about internal devices. Should it be treated as a normal modem connection using pppd? Do I need task-dialup-isdn at all?
What is bounce-debian-user ?
Hi folk, Just a small clarification. The mail placed below was received by me today from bounce-debian-user. This was NOT initiated by me. Quite surprised to see my name on the LOG (List of Greats!). Did others receive this mail too ? Could someone enlighten me on what this bounce-debian-user is ? TIA USM Bish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:14:27 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: External ISDN device User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:50:52 +0100 Resent-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/130541 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 19a44967b7e84f1aecbd248d4a0458d9 I have to connect a linux box to the Internet through an external ISDN device. I have read the ISDN4Linux stuff but everything there is about internal devices. Should it be treated as a normal modem connection using pppd? Do I need task-dialup-isdn at all?
What is bounce-debian-user ?
Hi folk, Just a small clarification. The mail placed below was received by me today from bounce-debian-user. This was NOT initiated by me. Quite surprised to see my name on the LOG (List of Greats!). Did others receive this mail too ? Could someone enlighten me on what this bounce-debian-user is ? TIA USM Bish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:14:27 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: External ISDN device User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:50:52 +0100 Resent-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: debian-user@lists.debian.org archive/latest/130541 X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 19a44967b7e84f1aecbd248d4a0458d9 I have to connect a linux box to the Internet through an external ISDN device. I have read the ISDN4Linux stuff but everything there is about internal devices. Should it be treated as a normal modem connection using pppd? Do I need task-dialup-isdn at all?
Re: Newbie vs Printer Setup
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:07:37 +0100 Ahmad-Tijjani Sambo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a newbie with two Linux boxes. One has RedHat on which I could setup the printer with printtool. The second box has Debian (Storm Linux) that I got off a magazine CD. Unfortunately I cannot find anything along the lines of printtool for easy set-up of printers. Do you have the Storm Admin System installed ? The printer setup is through printtool itself, using magicfilter. In case it is not there on your magazine CD do an apt-get install printtool from the storm server or one of its mirrors. USM Bish
Re: tripple booting dos/win/linux
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:29:09 -0500 (EST) Christopher W. Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for this post. Just downloaded it last night. Scarcely 70 kb. Excellent ! USM Bish On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Saqib Shaikh wrote: -|hi, how is it possible to tripple boot dos/win/linux? what i have done so Visit: http://raster.cibermillennium.com/gageng.htm Multiple bootloader is FREE and works from floppy or your HD. I used the floppy to boot until I made sure everything worked OK. Then used HD. Keep floppy for emergency booting.
Re: No available ptys
Thanks for this info. This was education for me since I know very little about device files and pseudo filesystems. The error seems to be elsewhere, since after changing the fstab I get the message mount: devpts already mounted at /dev/pts. My /etc/init.d/devpts.sh is in place and obviously has done its job during booting. I did a bit of study of my /dev directory and discovered that pts is a directory within it. To my surprise it showed a size of zero. Kind of wondering what others have in their debian boxes. drwxr-xr-x rootroot0 Jan 21 13:08:32 2001 pts I also have Slackware-7 installed on a different partition on the same box. Though the ownerships and permissions of /dev/pts directory were identical. This, however, showed a size of 4096. drwxr-xr-x root root 4096 Apr 21 11:10:27 1999 pts Could this be the genesis of the problem ? If yes, how does one go about sorting the problem out ? USM Bish On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:20:40 +0100 J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 20:38:57 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error message I receive is xterm: no available ptys. c) I cannot run the script program as user. As root there are no problems. The error message I get is openpty failed. This happens in X as well as in console mode. Oh yes, I forgot to mention, that even mc and mcedit complains: subshell.c: couldn't open master side of pty pty_open_master: Bad file descript I suspect you don't have the devpts pseudo-filesystem mounted. Try adding something like devpts /dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 to /etc/fstab. On Debian, libc6's /etc/init.d/devpts.sh takes care of mounting the devpts pseudo-filesystem. HTH, Ray
Unidentified subject!
On Wed, Dec 06, 2000 at 10:22:29AM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: Is there any way to apt-get Opera, or must one just download the deb from opera.com and use dpkg to install it? -Rob AFAIK as of now, it is available for download only from the opera site or one of its mirrors. It is a *single* binary file distribution (half mb) which by default installs to /usr/bin/ You may manually place this binary file anywhere on your path, and you are rolling ! In case you are on potato download the *static* versions only. This program NEEDS the latest of KDE and QT libs, not installed in potato. HTH USM Bish
Extracting .tar.gz from .deb
I am lookinf for an alternate method of extracting basic .tar.gz component from a debian package (.deb). Alien often fails in this process, though the reverse usually works fine. TIA USM Bish
Re: Extracting .tar.gz from .deb
Thanks Justin and Eric, ar vx FileName.deb works like a charm, a data.tar.gz is extracted to current dir, and can be renamed. Just learnt that dpkg --extract calls dpkg-deb. This needs a target dir ... works fine, otherwise. USM Bish On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 07:33:45AM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:08:41PM +0530, USM Bish wrote: I am looking for an alternate method of extracting basic .tar.gz component from a debian package (.deb). Alien often fails in this process, though the reverse usually works fine. ar -x or dpkg --extract or dpkg-deb --extract -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Potato install termwrap problem
I have faced the same problem with a fresh installation with Linux Central binary CD distribution. Downloading a fresh base system and installing from hard disk made no difference. Secondly, the lp module is also not being configured on doing a Configure of the Installed kernel. No clues on this termwrap issue ! Need some help in this regard. Thanks. USM Bish On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Brian Lavender wrote: I just installed the base system of potato from the binary-i386 iso image disk 1. Once it goes through the install of the base system, I get the following error on boot. /bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: No such file or directory /bin/sh: exec: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: No such file or directory INIT: Id 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes What is wrong here? I looked in /sbin and there is no termwrap program there. brian -- Brian Lavender http://www.brie.com/brian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want out!
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 10:13:46AM -0500, Ken Januski wrote: If the description for subscribing to list is changed from Subscribe to Get Trapped in List maybe people will pay more attention to the instructions for getting both in and out.:-) Don't know if Get Trapped is the right expression. I have learnt a lot from this list even after five years on Linux, and I am learning new things every day. This is the most helpful and knowledgeable list that I have suscribed to amongst all the Linux lists that I have encountered. YMMV! I see both sides of this issue. I still haven't configured email on debian so get my mail via Windows so a more Windows friendly method of unsubscribing would be useful to me (if I ever decide to unsubscribe) and others. On the other hand there's probably even more to say for keeping up an honored tradition. Got your point (see remarks below) Finally, after having read about 6 months worth of Stupid Unsubscriber Rants, I'd have to say that an inordinate number of people seem to enjoy the opportunity of exercising that rant. Another tradition?:-) Ken Its not that difficult through Windows as well. Any mailer could be used (even MS Outlook). All that is needed is to send a BLANK mail with the subject line reading : unsubscribe (without quotes ofcourse) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have your sig disabled during the mail so that contents are BLANK for sure.This is all that the line stated below does when the cryptic bit of text is actually typed. mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null mail the program used to send mail -s send switch for mail unsubscribe . subject debian-user etc. addressee /dev/null . piped in nil contents. The above explanation would be superfluous for most of the list... Just placing it for absolute newbies still in need of some assistance. If you have perl installed for DOS (or Unix/ Linux) I am prepared to send you a perl script which can send such mail directly using your SMTP address and is independent of configured mailing systems, be it DOS/Windows or Linux. In any case you can always unsuscribe through the links at debian.org, Can't you ? HTH USM Bish
Re: I want out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I notice that you are using a Win-NT based mailer [Mozilla 4.5 (French)] for sending this mail you have sent. Go into Mozilla and do/ type only the following: a) To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] b) Subject : unsubscribe c) Turn off your signature file (if any) d) Send the mail Please DO NOT type anything else. HTH USM Bish On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 10:58:53AM +0100, Pierre Filippi wrote: Hello, I want to say that I don' t understand why I can' t go away, i must install debian to unsubscribe!!!:-) I have never saw a list from which i can't go away, it' s a trap There is NO trap here .. Only a communication failure! Can someone help me??? Thanks -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: what fax software do you suggest?
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 03:54:49PM +, Pollywog wrote: On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:17:38 -0600, matthschulz said: I use efax since about a year and I'm happy with that. Does efax also require the use of a fax server (such as Hylafax server) or can it send faxes directly? -- Andrew Just noticed that your question is still unanswered .. I advocated efax as well when this thread was started. NO, efax does not need a background daemon/ server. It directly dials and sends fax in Class 12 modems. The interaction is through command line only .. For example, to dial the number 633222 using tone dialing and send a two-page fax from the TIFF/G3 files letter.001 and letter.002 using a Class 1 fax modem connected to ttyS0 just type in: efax -d /dev/ttyS0 -o1 \ -t T633222 letter.001 letter.002 And there are similar one liners which will retreive fax for you too . The man pages are adequate to get you going quickly .. HTH USM Bish
Re: No 's' key after logon
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:01:17AM -0800, John Bagdanoff wrote: Well, I finally hit a WALL with woody: Briefly, my problem: Once I try to login after booting, my 's' key just beeps at me! So 'startx' won't work because I have no 's'... just a beep. some text snipped Why couldn't it have been 'z' that went belly up instead of 's'? Any help out there? Any clue to what might be happening? And hopefully a fix? (beep)incerly, your(beep) John Open your keyboard and clear the ash/ dust that you may find inside. Secure the cable properly before closing ... I had s*m*lar problem with the i key a few days back. Initial symptoms were nil / erratic response from the i key. After a day or two four keys in a line got the bug and 8 i k , keys started going loco .. Tried a whole lot of keycode= and all sort of monkey tricks No joy. The good old screwdriver finally set everything right. Lessons learnt : 1. No smoking at the keyboard. 2. Hardware is just as flaky as software (specially if M$ came pre-loaded). 3. Screwdriver may work where fsck fails. USM Bish
Re: another modem question
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:39:31PM +0100, Peter Fedichev wrote: Hello, I am using my modem for dial up and fax services. Everything works fine, the only problem is that the modem does not indicate that the line is busy, when I phone to ISP or recieve/send a fax. Anyone has an idea what should I send to the modem to make it actually hold the line? -- Peter O. Fedichev (Ph.D.) ITP, Innsbruck Don't know what you mean by hold the line. If you are able to dial out for fax/ ISP etc, obviously your system is in perfect working order, and your modem is actually holding. The external Receive and Send LEDs should light up when working, if you have an external modem. In case they are not lighting up, it is more likely to be some hardware problem of your modem. AFAIK, there are no AT commands which can achieve this. In any case I am sending an attachment of all modem AT commands known to me in your personal mail (modem.gz). After gunzipping it is over 25k long. HTH USM Bish
Re: emai client
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:30:45PM -0500, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: I am looking for a X e-mail client which could look to different mailboxes in different ISPs. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance! Marcelo _ Not quite sure what you are looking for exactly. The only X based e-mail client with its own mail retreival routine that I know of is kmail (KDE), and works similar to Win mailers. I retreive mail using *fetchmail* itself from multiple POP accounts/ ISPs and then do my mail in Mutt. Once in a while I use X based tools for processing the same. TkRat, postillion and balsa work fine for mail downloaded with fetchmail. USM Bish
Re: ISP accounting software
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 06:12:23PM +1000, markc wrote: Did you manage to find any ISP accounting software to suit you ? Not quite. Did an apt-get for ipac. The set-up is a bit complicated and the documentation rather short and terse. Trying some experimentation presently .. Not much success so far. I have evolved my own over the years and intend to package it one day. Would love to give it a try. --markc Thanks USM Bish
Re: what fax software do you suggest?
For small time requirements that you envisage, the efax program is good enough. It is on the main sub dir of Debian. Has an utility called efix which does the job of conversion between fax, text, bit- map, greyscale, ps and other formats. For heavier workload, most people vouch for mgetty + sendfax. Don't have personal experience on this combination. I have used kfax (kde) in the past without any problems ... However, for the rare few faxes out of my system efax was the final choice for me. Small, efficient, no-frills software which works !!! Recommendation: Do an apt-get for efax. USM Bish On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:49:56AM +, Thomas Halahan wrote: dear deb-users, I have a stand allone debian box with a fax modem. I want to send faxes from my box (but I don't really have to recieve them). Q What software, from the debian distro, would you suggest which is easy to set up for sending PS files, for example. Thanks Tom -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
ISP accounting software
I am on the lookout for a light weight ISP accounting software, preferentially a command line version which can be fired from ppp scripts. Should have features of configuration for rates, volume of transaction etc Should output to a log file. Yes, kppp suits the bill fine but kde is too resource hungry on my anaemic system. USM Bish
Re: boot-floppies: how do I go about making my own version
Its over a day, and there are not takers for your query .. Offering an incomplete suggestion to keep this thread alive. I am attaching my boot-floppy making script below. Its just a barebone script, merely booting into your existing system. Does NOT have the additional features that you are looking for. Could serve as a starting point for further development. This csh script was taken from my SCO based sysop a couple of years ago, and I just added few things to it like formatting etc. I'm on bash and don't know enough csh to extend this. Your requirement of placing a kernel of your choice is met here. You need to add more to it for network config and ftp installs. There would be limited free space on the disk for experimentation, depending upon the size of your installed kernel. Perhaps others can throw in their bit from here. Any joy from the debian-boot mail list ? HTH USM Bish On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 10:44:34AM -0500, Walter Tautz wrote: I am interested in creating my own boot-floppies Primarily so i can change some of the text messages and change some of the menu options. Ideally I would like to create a single boot floppie that would be expressly used to do network install. In particular I would like to have a kernel which has a fairly wide choice of NIC support compiled into it. One of the first options the user should be presented with is network configuration. Afterwhich more files needed for the install could be retrived from an ftp server... Any ideas? Has anyone done something like this already? I would love to see some examples... I have done apt-get source boot-floppies -walter I also posted a query on the debian-boot mail list. - snip -- #!/bin/csh -f # # mkboot # # DESCRIPTION: # To make Linux boot floppies, using the 2.x kernels. # # Formats, creates the file system, mounts the floppy, installs the Linux # kernel, installs LILO, umounts floppy, and cleans up. stty intr ^C set PATH=(/usr/sbin /sbin /bin /usr/bin) # the generic floppy device set GENFLOPPY=/dev/fd0 # the low-level floppy device, used with fdformat. # Change fd0u to fd0h or fd0H as per the setup on # your system set LLFLOPPY=/dev/fd0u1440 # a temporary mount point for your floppy. set MOUNTPOINT=/tmp/floppy # boot specifications and kernel image to be specified here set BOOT=/boot/boot.b set KERNEL=/boot/vmlinuz # LILO label set LABEL=linux # here we go! # echo -n Insert a blank floppy into the drive and hit return... set FOO=$ # Low-level formatting the floppy... fdformat $LLFLOPPY # Making file system on floppy... mke2fs -c $GENFLOPPY # Mount the floppy mkdir $MOUNTPOINT /dev/null mount $GENFLOPPY $MOUNTPOINT # Copy the kernel to the floppy cp $BOOT $MOUNTPOINT cp $KERNEL $MOUNTPOINT # Install lilo echo image=$MOUNTPOINT/`basename $KERNEL` label=$LABEL | \ lilo -C - -b $GENFLOPPY -i $MOUNTPOINT/boot.b -c -m $MOUNTPOINT/map sync # Unmount floppy umount $MOUNTPOINT # Deleting temporary mount point rm -rf $MOUNTPOINT echo All done. -snip---
Re: Some Newbie Questions
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:27:16AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, here are my Questions: 1. I'm not going to beg for all the newbie commands I should know, so I'm just going to ask for a URL that will set me in the right direction. Could someone please point me to one? Check out http://www.linuxnewbie.org, http://www.linuxstart.com USM Bish
Re: Opera for Linux
When I first commenced this thread three days ago, my intentions were two-fold. Firstly, the need to scout for a suitable replacement for my out of date Netscape 4.51. Secondly, because of a lot of hype in our local WIA / WAP hardware circuits (and else- where in Asia I suppose) on the prospects of Linux entering the WIA / WAP arena here, (which as of now is a monopoly of M$) with the Opera for Linux as the main browser! I am attaching a clipping from Issue 59 of Linux Gazette (Nov 2k) for those interested. It is my gut feeling, that there will be more Linux desktops using Opera as the prime browser within the next one year than one can expect .. I feel happy that Linux is now a main stream OS and commercial enterprises are opening up all over the world. I am sure licensing aspects (closed source), would perhaps be against the very ethos of all true GNU/ Linux loyalists. But that's the way the world is ! Surely, organised projects cannot survive without recourse to a source of revenue. Today is my second day I am using the beta .. Opera is surely a thing to look out for and very soon too, if they want to take on M$ in the WIA/ WAP market! USM Bish clip - [LG Issue 59] -- Sept. 25, 2000: Opera Software, PalmPalm Technology Inc., and Trolltech announce the formation of a strategic alliance for the Asian wireless Linux market. The companies will jointly develop Linux Total Solution for Wireless Internet Appliance for hardware manufacturers in the wireless Internet space. Linux Total Solution for Wireless Internet Appliance consists of Opera's Opera for Linux Web browser, Trolltech's Qt/Embedded, an embedded GUI environment and windowing system, integrated with PalmPalm's Tynux, a Linux Operating System optimized for the wireless Internet. This is to provide a complete embedded Linux solution for wireless Internet devices. /clip - On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:18:55PM +0100, Kristian Rink wrote: Obviously Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] thinks that: I have been waiting for Opera for Linux for *ages* and am very pleased indeed with what I have seen of the second beta. H, my $0.02 is that I am running (Debian) GNU/Linux for 99.95% because of the licensing and distribution policies and ethics, so Opera as another closed-source commercial application is not an option to me... Mozilla is just not usable at the moment and although it gets better with each nightly build it is still very fragile on my system. Well, I found M18 to work fine, even though I heard (and saw) that the M$ Windows release of this browser works faster, and seems that Netscape6 PR3 (for whichever reasons) in Linux also seems to be a little faster than 'native' Mozilla... Personally, at the moment I am using the Skipstone browser rendering sites with M18 through gtkmozembed, and I am *very* pleased with this system (especially since I don't need the mailer and newsreader and composer stuff of Netscape but really just a plain browser). And, if speed matters, what do I have lynx and links for? :))) Opera seems already robust. It has a nice interface and I would be very happy to use it as my interface with the web. Nowadays a web browser is so important and it really ought to be *the* best application on the OS. Even though I agree on that statement, getting back on that licensing stuff, I *hardly* can imagine Opera being *the* best application in this OS, because the way this product is distributed and brought to the customers totally conflicts *everything* Linux stands for... from that point of view, I rather would wait for a Netscape 12 one day (which then hopefully displays secure ml and each of the thousand proprietary media-plug-ins we will have to face, in the year 2010) than consider using Opera on my system. Netscape is well known as being one of the worst Linux apps. True, sadly... As already mentioned, try to get Yourself Mozilla and use one of those lighter browsers (galeon, skipstone) on top of it, or use lynx for fastest information retrieval in worldwide web KDE-Konqueror seems to be fine, as well... Regards, Kristian
Re: Opera for Linux
Thanks to all those who have replied either to the list or on my personal mail. Finally decided to give it a try. Downloaded the static binary from the Opera site (Ver 4.0b1). Run it for over 2 hrs right now. Initial impressions ... not that bad at all (but being a beta release, many things don't seem to work). Pros : o Reasonable download of 2.5 mb tarball. (The dynamic tarballs/ debs are smaller but they need qt-2.2 installed). o .deb available ! o Single executable file (about 5.8 mb) o Simple shell script install/ un-install o Less resource hungry than Netscape/ Mozilla o Much faster than both o Clean intuitive interface o HTML rendering excellent. Graphics good. o No crashes in last 2 hrs of constant use. ... perhaps too early to say ! Cons : (some stated in the README itself) o Non-GPL (binary-only distribution) o Needs libstdc++ version 6.1, and therefore not expected to work on slink o Printing to printer does NOT work o Some preferences don't work, though lot of customisation facilities available o Window settings is not saved o No Java or plugin support o Fullscreen mode doesn't work properly o Scrolling a zoomed/ scaled page doesn't work properly o More when I find out more ... With so many things amiss in the beta version it seems unfair to ask for regn fees after the 30 day trial. Otherwise for a beta, seems quite usable for non-fancy browser requirements even in the present state As the README file states Expect these to be fixed soon ! Once these rough edges are smoothened, may surely be worth it. Putting it to the list for general info ... USM Bish On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 09:11:02PM +, Tom Huckstep wrote: USM Bish writes: Been on this list for the last few months. Never noticed anything posted on Opera web browser for Linux. I use the beta of 4.0b1. snip There are some .debs on the Opera site as well, but I don't have a clue regarding its popularity in the debian world. I came to Opera in the windows world, where Netscape was poor and IE was bloated and slow. I loved Opera's small size, speed and support for W3C standards. I downloaded the statically linked .debs from www.opera.com (Potato doesn't provide the required versions of the qt libs). Never used it myself, so any kind of info like resource utilisation, speed, customisation, java support, plug-in support, glitches etc would be welcome. At the moment 4.0b1 seems very buggy. It crashes once or twice an hour, but always very cleanly. I imagine that 3.x would be much better. It certainly was for 'doze, but I don't know if they provide it for debian. As far as performance goes, it is still a lot quicker than Netscape or Mozilla, and I use Opera for all my browsing, even through its crashes. (Mozilla often segfaults on me anyway.) It has great options for customisation. However, I do not believe Java is supported as yet. There is a particular glitch where it becomes unresponsive for a few seconds, but otherwise the best web browser I have ever used.
Opera for Linux
Been on this list for the last few months. Never noticed anything posted on Opera web browser for Linux. I have a triple OS system (Win98, deb and slack) I am in the process of an upgrade from slink to potato and Slack 7.1. I have several programs, inclusive of Netscape, which run from /opt dir, so that they are shared between the two Linux distros. I usually unpack static binary tarballs for such programs downloaded directly from their parent sites. My present Netscape was downloaded over a year ago (ver 4.51), and has subserved its purpose (given the glitches of running on 32mb RAM) and some of the other problems posted on this list. Iam looking for something lightweight and less resource hungry, in the process of my upgrade. Yes, mozilla is a contender, but would like to keep my options open. Opera is also currently available (though not Open Source or GPL). Need first hand info on Opera for Linux, from anybody who is currently using it or has tried it out. There are some .debs on the Opera site as well, but I don't have a clue regarding its popularity in the debian world. Never used it myself, so any kind of info like resource utilisation, speed, customisation, java support, plug-in support, glitches etc would be welcome. Thanks. USM Bish
Re: Printer DOC's
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 06:39:20AM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote: On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 13:45, Helgi Örn wrote: Another question is; is there a friendly program for reading all the HOWTO's and FAQ's in a convenient manner? Install apache or boa and use a browser: lynx http://localhost/doc/ Luck, Pann -- With apache installed, dwww is another option where not only the /usr/doc, but also man and info pages can be viewed. USM Bish
Alternate method (was Re: Presentation software)
The nearest resembling Power Point would surely be Star Office. If you are using your own system for presentation this is quite good enough. The problem which I have faced is not in actually preparing the presentation, but during the time of delivery of the presentation at external facilities (where I tour for lectures/ seminars/ talks etc). Most institutions cater for projection systems and allied facilities typically configured on Windows based systems (for the predominant .ppt crowd) and that too on differing versions of Win thus making version compatibility of the .ppt file an issue. To keep such presentations completely system inde- pendent, of late I have started using plain HTML. Graphic images are edited through gimp and linked. Clicking a GIF arrow on each screen brings up the next slide like in a .ppt presentation (without animations though). Using frames, effects can be created which cannot be done in .ppt! You can also use any colour or GIF for a background as in .ppt. If you are not conversant with HTML, any wp which can save in HTML like Abiword or Word Perfect is more than enough. Netscape composer is suitable as well. In all of these Fonts, colors, bullets, tables etc can be done in a WYSIWYG environment. Works quite well. The zip file that I carry with me is definitely more compact than corresponding ppt presentation of the same thing. The only drawback is the frame of the browser hanging around when the presentation is made. In Windows there is a program called HTML2EXE which converts HTMLs to stand alone EXE (thus eliminting browser requirements). Surely, if this system of HTML presentations becomes more popular, somebody would come up with a similar thing for Linux some day ! Posting it to the list to generate a concensus for non-proprietary computing (regarding which all of us are aware) ... and with the hope that somebody with programming skills capable of taking on such a project is listening ! USM Bish On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:29:45PM +0100, Helgi Örn wrote: StarOffice perhaps? I installed it on my potato and it runs very well so far. Helgi Örn Thomas R. Shannon wrote: I'm looking for a graphics presentation progam similar to Power Point. It has to be able to work in a full-screen slide mode and be able too insert eps graphics files. The ability to directly insert wmf files would certainly be a plus. Any ideas? Thanks, Tom --
Re: X config problem causes me to have reinstall entire OS--!!newbie warning!!
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 11:55:57AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 11:28:11PM +0518, USM Bish wrote: Try Ctrl-Alt-F10. Works with some keyboards. Try Ctrl-Alt-F1 instead. Ctrl-Alt-F10 works with some _installations_, specifically those which have a getty running on tty10. The default, however, is to have gettys running on tty1-tty6, so Ctrl-Alt-F1 should work on any fresh installation. Thanks for this correction. I have getty running on tty10. Ctrl-Alt-F1 thru F6 should otherwise work on all systems. USM Bish
Re: X config problem causes me to have reinstall entire OS--!!newbie warning!!
Your problem seems to be inability to get access to your computer since xdm is taking you directly into X, from where the system blanks out. Try Ctrl-Alt-F10. Works with some keyboards.In case you manage to come out to console, immediately do the following as root: #update-rc.d -f xdm remove This will remove all xdm related stuff from the init scripts. Then REBOOT. In case Ctrl-Alt-F10 does not work, the only option is to boot through the rescue disk, mount your root partition, go to the /etc directory and manually remove the following: /etc/rc0.d/K01xdm /etc/rc1.d/K01xdm /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm /etc/rc3.d/S99xdm /etc/rc4.d/S99xdm /etc/rc5.d/S99xdm /etc/rc6.d/K01xdm From then on you will be booting into console. Fix your X configuration and continue. In case you want xdm back, use update-rc.d again ! (Pl check the man) HTH USM Bish On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:19:27AM -0800, Jim Merante wrote: Is there a keystroke combination that will prompt the boot commands and allow me to skip the load X windows command? (BTW, if I have posted this on a non-newbie list, I apoloogize and I will seek help elsewhere) After I have configured X and go to run it, my monitor goes blank and the green light on the monitor turns to a yellow light (no signal). No problem, reboot and run xf86config again until I get the setting correct, right? Wrong. Everytime I boot after I have killed my screen, the OS skips right over the prompt and goes right into the blank screen. Now I have no doubt that this is my fault and perhaps even the fault of my vid card and I can live with having to rectify it. But I don't want to reinstall the system each time I change the config! I don't even mind going in to the file and changing things manually, if only I could get to a command prompt before my screen goes black! There has got to be a keystroke combination that will prompt the boot commands and allow me to skip the load X windows command. Right...? Right...? Please help, Thanks -- Jim Merante Utility Trailer Mfg. Dealer Information Systems Administrator 626-854-7341 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man page question
May I refer you to Issue 32 of Linux Gazette for which there is a detailed description about how you can make one using pod2man (if you have Perl = 5.004). The URL is ftp://ftp.ssc.com/pub/lg/lg-issue32.tar.gz USM Bish On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:50:19AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: i have a cryptogram solver that i want to release to freshmeat (it's a console/ncurses application). i'd like to write a man page for it, but don't want to learn troff. are there any applications that lets you write a text, latex or staroffice file and turn it into a man page? pete
Re: password protect a directory?
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 05:51:39PM -0800, Shandar Ahmad wrote: changing permissions to 000 effetively protects a directory. Nifty ! 'chmod 000' ... this does ring bells ! AFAIK chmod 000 effectively removes all r, w and x permissions for that directory. The ls command and programs like mc would still show the dir, but will not permit a cd or access to that directory even by the user who created it in the first place, and resetting of permissions to the original would be necessary for access. Yes, normal users will get a message Permission denied even on the ls command but access by root or su would be still possible. A bit inconvenient, (this setting and restoring of directory permissions), but as a quick hack would at least protect data from non-root users. On second thought, I suppose, even 600 would do in place of 000. Need to give this a try though. You might even want to do a chown to a dummy user for this purpose. Shandar You need root privileges for this (I suppose). USM Bish
Re: switching virtual terminals
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 09:50:03PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: There's a package that I need to install that allows switching virtual terminals by hitting [Ctrl Alt 'left or right arrow']. Anyone happen to remember what the name of that package is? thanks Is it konsole that you are thinking of ? Just reconfirm this [Ctrl-Alt-Arrow keys] aspect, because I think konsole uses [Shift - Arrow Keys] for VT switching. USM Bish
Re: Debian and Red Hat togheter
Yes, I have Slackware and Debian on the same system. The only things I share are the swap partition, /opt and an unusual partition I use called /archive which holds my software archives, downloads, html, music, graphics, and shared data files. I tried to share /home, but gave up because of the userid problems between systems. Doing with system dirs like /usr, /var, /etc, /tmp etc. should NOT be tried because of userid, permissions, ownerships and numerous other mismatches. I keep several commonly used programs in /opt which includes mainly third party software which I install manually to be used by both systems. The following programs run perfectly well from /opt across both systems: netscape, xv, maxwell, abiword, WordPerfect Ted, jdk1.2, nasm, BlueFish and numerous scripts and programs. All these programs are statically linked would run independently. Note : /opt/bin is on my default path set in /etc/profile of both systems. USM Bish On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:34:07PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another question (It's half off-topic, I know): I'm installing Red Hat. Is there anyone that has 2 different linux OS's in the same machine, and was able to optimize disk space? Say, symlink a few directories (/home, for example) from one installation to another? It would not only optimize disk space, but it would keep the same user files under both installations. Thanks again, Gaucho
Re: Introduction.
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:31:18AM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
Probably wan't to make sure you've got an address. Here's one variant.
$ /sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep 'inet addr:' | sed 's=.*inet
addr\:\([0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\).*=\1='
That's all one line. It shouldn't return anything if you don't have an
inet addr for ppp0. Otherwise, it'll return the address.
#!/bin/sh
if [ -e /var/run/ppp0.pid ] ; then
echo Your PPP connection is up.
else
echo Your PPP connection is down.
fi
HTH.
-jg
--
Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The above script works fine .
A third option is to use pon itself with some
dedicated program for monitoring the connections.
There is a nice program which has come out quite
recently called pppstatus which I got from the
freshmeat.net links (author: Gabriel Montenegro)
This is a nice console based program,which gives
you all the functions you need to monitor an ISP
line. Features include connect notification, IP
address, current speed, top speed, online time,
Tx and Rx packets, bytes received/ transmitted and
errors.You can have this running constantly either
on a console or on an x-term throughout your net
sojourn.
I can mail the source tarball in personal mail
(13322 bytes).
USM Bish
Re: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'No such device or address'
Check dmesg. Re-confirm where your lp device is polled. USM Bish On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:35:59AM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote: Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'No such device or address', attempt 2, sleeping 20 at 07:47:26.313 Hmm, you know that since Linux 2.2, the first printer is /dev/lp0? moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: OT: Cross-platform document format?
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 06:40:34PM +0200, Andre Berger wrote: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ingles, Raymond wrote: From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LaTeX or Lout (combined with say xfig or dia for graphics) may fit the bill, Thanks for the response. I was looking for a common document format, so that the students on campus would quit turning their homework in as .DOC format. What about LyX. -- Andre Lyx is only a GUI frontend to Latex and takes away the pains of hand coding all the Latex tags and keywords. USM Bish
Re: Tex/Latex problem
I have exactly the same problem. This is the error I get for output: This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2) I can't find the format file `tex.fmt'! The problem is texconfig is not being able to generate the .fmt files necessary (even when run in the batch mode). The first occurance of error comes up as follows: snip This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.2) (INITEX) (/usr/lib/texmf/tex/plain/config/tex.ini ... all okay till this section Beginning to dump on file latex.fmt .. No pages of output. Transcript written on latex.log. fmtutil: `tex -ini -progname=latex latex.ini' failed. snip I have purged and re-installed both tetex-base and tetex-bin using dselect with no effect. Finally given up ... I am in the process of upgrading anyway from slink and my disks have already been mailed from US by snail-mail two days ago ! Also got the message copied below in between when running texconfig. The problem is, this scrolls past so fast that there is no time to press return before being presented with the interactive menu of texconfig. But could that be the reason that the .fmt files are not built ? If that's the case, it would surely be the strangest practice that I have seen to enforce an upgrade ! snip !! ! You are attempting to make a LaTeX format from a source file ! That is more than one year old. ! ! If you enter return to scroll past this message then the format ! will be built, but please consider obtaining newer source files ! before continuing to build LaTeX. ! ! LaTeX is re-issued every 6 months, in June and December. !! ! LaTeX source files more than 1 year old!. l.573 ...LaTeX source files more than 1 year old!} snip [The above lines have been captured using script]. Interesting eh ? USM Bish On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 10:34:07AM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: Hi: The format files should be in the texmf/web2c subdirectory. Have you run texconfig? I did sometimes get this problem running latex2e files, and I was able to get around this by: 1. creating a link of tex in /usr/bin to a file called latex2e and 2. in texmf/webc copying latex.fmt to latex2e.fmt. Then use latex2e filename to run latex. I hope this works for you. Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio Northern University Ada, OH 45810 I have ported TeX/Latex onto my machine HP UX 10.20 But everytime I use tex/latex I get:- I Can't find the format file 'tex.fmt'/'latex.fmt' What is wrong. Can someone help please? Thanks in advance Hormoz Rebati -- Hormoz Rebati BAS TETRA Engineering LMPS (smtp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (X400: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Fax: +44 (0)1256 484561 Voice: +44 (0)1256 484401 Address: MOTOROLA(CGISS), Viables, Basingstoke, Hampshire, RG22 4PD, UK -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Simple sh or alias to list directories
Sorry to be late in replying. I pick up mail once a day only. On your queiry on recursive dir AFAIK, using my technique NO! Essentially each */ represents one level of directory structure. It is possible to get the second level with ls -d */*/ and third level with ls -d */*/*/, but in these cases directories with lesser number of levels will NOT be listed, and multiple aliases will be needed ... definitely not elegant. I would support Karsten kmself@ix.netcom.com here. Use the tree program. Thats what its meant for. I use two aliases for directory listings from the present working directory: a) alias lsd='ls -d */' b) alias lst='tree -d | less' Other options would be to use dedicated scripts for the purpose, or filter a ls -R output through grep or sed etc. Some suggestions have already come on the list in this regard. HTH USM Bish On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 10:13:44PM +, Thomas Halahan wrote: your solution is more elegant than what i have put together with a find call. however how could you get it to list recursively? i have tried ls -1 -R -d */ tom On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, USM Bish wrote: alias lsd=ls -d */ should do your job ! USM Bish -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Simple sh or alias to list directories
I am on bash. This is part of the the output of the command ls -d */ on my home directory. Only the sub dirs are displayed. aedes:~$ls -d */ Mail/ page/ nsmail/ bd4v605/free/ tklatex/ HTH alias lsd=ls -d */ should do your job ! USM Bish On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 02:36:05PM +, Thomas Halahan wrote: Hello, I am trying to determine an easy alias or sh script that will list only the directories in a directory. It should have similar functionality to the ls command. E.g. [tom]$ lsd ~ should list only the directories in my home folder, not the files. Does anyone know of a way to do this please? Regards Tom.
Re: sis6215c
This card is pretty commonly used in India. AFAIK SuSE distros have the requisite drivers for it. Please look up http://www.linux-india.org/sis/ for further details. This URL has the full installation instructions and the links for downloading the driver. Never used this driver myself. Cannot comment any further. HTH. USM Bish On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:33:30AM +0300, vivi wrote: I need this driver for linux because i don't have it... and i hope that you can help me mail me
Re: mounting /home?
It depends on whether your /home dir is an independent partition, or it is under root dir (/). 1. If seperate partition: a) Just ensure that you do not re-initialise this part- ition during re-installation. Just mount it as an existing partition without re-initialisation. b) Your fstab need not be tinkered any further, except for adding floppy, cd-rom, DOS partitions etc. 2. If /home is under / (root partition): a) Though it is strongly advised that you should re- initialise / and /usr, you may not be in a position to do so since contents of /home will be lost.There maybe other dirs under / which you want to preserve. Just do a rm -rf on the directories that need to be re- written and re-install over the old thing with- out re-initialising or formatting the / (root) partition. b) I have successfully re-installed even seperate dis- tros by above technique.I just delete the following dirs and re-install: /bin, /boot, /dev, /lib, /lost+found, /proc, /root, /sbin, /tmp, /var [I know it is a bad idea not to seperate things like /lib, /var etc. in separate partitions, but my home comp has four OSs and I do not have much luxuries on this score] Normally I move my /root dir (rather than delete) so that my dot files and other configurations of root can be re-used. I also save copies of important /etc files like profile, fstab, wvdial.conf etc before doing a re-installation. My /usr is a seperate partition. I always store my /usr/local subdir in another partition before doing a re-initialisation/ format of /usr, and copy this back later. HTH USM Bish On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 02:13:08PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: This is probably embarassingly simple, but I'd better ask.. I'm thinking of doing a reinstall of 2.2 and would like to use my existing /home directory. That will allow me to keep lots of existing info. I tried this once before w/ Redhat but it didn't work right after the reinstall. Do I just do a regular install *not* mounting the /home partition? After the install, how do I get the /home partion mounted? Can I just copy my /etc/fstab file and /home will mount automatically? thanks
Re: debian: dos2unix and unix2dos utilities.
Solution 1:
~~
By all probabilities you have it installed on our system
already. In case you have a standard workstation model
installed both dos2unix and unix2dos should be in your
/usr/bin dir.
Solution 2:
~~
In case not, check if you have recode installed (Should
be there by default installation).In which case add the
following lines to your /etc/profile, or .profile, and
you have the same commands available to you:
--snip--
alias unix2dos='recode lat1..ibmpc'
alias dos2unix='recode ibmpc..lat1'
--snip-
Solution 3:
~~
Usually for most Linux users, it is dos2unix, which is
the main problem. DOS edit, and few other editors can
read unix text files and puts in an ASCII 13 during
saving, and the unix2dos functions therefore more of a
conceived requirement than otherwise. This little two
liner bash script using the tr programs will do a
dos2unix text file conversion.
Note: Save as d2u and do a chmod +x d2u and place it
along default path (e.g. /usr/local/bin) for use.
---snip-
#!/bin/bash
[ -z $1 ]
{ echo d2u - converts DOS text to Unix.; echo \
Syntax: d2u (dosfile) unixfile; exit }
cat $1|tr -d '\015'
---snip-
Solution 4:
~~
Use a dedicated program. Willing to mail you source
tarball as PMO (Personal Mail Only)
ciao
USM Bish
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 10:48:23AM +1100, Brendan J Simon wrote:
Are there any dos2unix and unix2dos command line utilities in any of the
debian pacages ???
I've done an apt-cache search ... but can't find anything suitable.
Thanks,
Brendan Simon.
Re: Konsole session switching...
I don't know about switching between sessions, but you can switch between 6 consoles using Alt-F1 through Alt-F6 on the same machine on console. HTH USM Bish On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 06:44:41AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to switch between sessions in Konsole with the keyboard? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: User privelidges
There is a program called xusermount somewhere on the net (don't remember where). Got it by going thru lycos over a year ago. No .deb available. Maybe on freshmeat, give that a try as well. Can mail it as an att (PMO). HTH USM Bish On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 09:26:38PM -0700, ObeseWhale wrote: How can I let users run X and mount drives? Thanks in advance. Matt ObeseWhale Grinshpun
Re: lp module in Debian 2.2
On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 09:18:01PM -0400, Seung-woo Nam wrote: Hi everyone: I installed Debian 2.2 recently and the process went pretty smoothly except for lp module for printer support. The installation of the module fails even though I have a printer connected to the parallel port and I can't figure out whether it's parameter thing or something else. Could anyone help me? Thanks. Seung-woo Nam You are not the only one. There seems to be some problem with kernel 2.2.17 or the printer daemon lprng 3.6.12-6 or lpr. There are many people on this list who are able to get a printout to the raw device by doing a cat TxtFile /dev/lpN (where N is their port polled device) but lpr is not being able to use the polled port for some reason (i.e the command cat TxtFile | lpr fails).For all such cases lp support has been built into the kernel and perm- issions of spool dir /files properly set. There are no plip conflicts. This matter by all probabilities would need to be referred to the kernel or the lpr/lprng main- tainers, once the cause is elucidated.I am doing a study of the problem presently .. and frankly, still quite lost ! I had posted a query three days ago on this list to have a rough estimate of the extent of the problem, on the thread Printing : Kernel 2.2.17 problem? but the response so far has been poor. I have no confirmation from anyone that Kernel 2.2.17 with lprng 3.6.12-6 or lpr has posed no problems. It appears that CUPS is okay with this kernel as confirmed by Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED], but that isn't the default potato / woody lpr or lprng. It is somewhere between kernel 2.2.17 and the printer daemon where the problems lie. Or, could there be any other factor at play ? USM Bish
Re: Shutdown as normal user
Solution 1: I use a program called usershutdown, which I am using from my Slackware days 2 years ago. Don't remember where I got it from. Can send the source as an attachment in personal mail. Solution 2: 3 finger salute ! [Ctrl-Alt-Del] ciao USM Bish On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 03:35:21PM +0200, Jörg wrote: Hi I'm using Debian/GNU Linux 2.2 and the Helix-Gnome desktop. The problem is, that the 'gshutdown' program wants to be run as root. So I always have to log in as root and shut down the computer. How can I change 'gshutdown' so that a normal user can run it, too? I tried to set it suid root, but this caused the problem, that root is not allowed to display his windows on a user's screen (any idea how to change this, too?). Thanks in advance, joerg
Printing : Kernel 2.2.17 problems ?
There seems to ba a major problem with lpr output for those who have recently upgraded to Kernel 2.2.17 and using lprng 3.6.12-6. I am still on Slink and with- holding upgrade till these issues are resolved. Ever since the release of Debian-2.2 as stable last month, there have been numerous postings on this list on this issue. Most of the people have been able to obtain raw output to /dev/lpN but the lpd daemon for some reason failed to deliver the desired output. One posting about 10 days ago also stated stoppage of lpr services on a running system ! There were no takers for that specific post. I have had problems with lpr on various distros over the last 4+ years, and have evolved a checklist to get this job going. The checklist has never failed so far on any distro. I was in personal correspondence with few of the people who posted such queries to our list, with the idea of helping fellow debianians out, based on my experience. But this one has really got me bowled! An exerpt of correspondence wit Stephan Kulka [EMAIL PROTECTED] It appears that there is one BIG problem with lprng. It is impossible for checkpc to give you ..cannot open /dev/lp1, when your device is polled to /dev/lp0 UNLESS there is some con- flict within lprng itself. As you know, lprng uses tcp/ip! Please re-confirm : a) checkpc reports /dev/lp1 while you are being polled to /dev/lp0 by tunelp. I can reconfirm all of that, even dmesg shows me that lp0 is polled. b) the version of lprng you are using. dselect tells me that it is the version 3.6.12-6. From above it is evident, that there is some major problem between the polled device and the device the lpd daemon is addressing. I would have definitely mailed the maintainer of lprng by now, if it was not for the subsequent bit Stephan added: Perhaps an interesting point:I did not know that there is another printing tool except lpr. So, I installed lpr first, and I had the problem with the daemon (you remember), but after you explain- ed to me to use checkpc I installed lprng and deinstalled lpr. So obviously, the problem remains same whether lpr or lprng is used. The problem therefore appears to be kernel related (i.e. specific for 2.2.17). Before I knock the doors of our kernel maintainers and/or kernel.org, I just need a confirmation from people on this list using kernel 2.2.17 and lprng or lpr if they have faced similar problems. Please confirm version of lpr/ lprng as well .. (Personal mails welcome). Are there chances of tcp/ip conflicts or conflicts with other software (excluding plip) ? USM Bish
Re: Printing w/Epson SC800
This problem is a bit difficult for me to attempt because you are on 2.2.17, of which I have nil experience. However the problem seems somewhere between your lpd daemon and the kernel response. Kernel 2.2.17 seems to be an okay kernel from the reports that I read, however, there has been one report on this list where the lp device just went non-functional on a running system which was not even rebooted.There were no takers for that post. That too was on 2.2.17 .. just kind of wondering, if John has managed to smell the rat ! Meanwhile, I am sending a detailed checklist in personal mail. Too long to place here... USM Bish On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:49:40PM -0700, John Gilger wrote: USM Bish wrote: 2. LINUX: a) Do a dmesg. Check which device your printer is polled EpsonSC800 at /dev/lp0 b) Do a cat Txtfile /dev/lpN (where N is the device polled) Prints fine (ascii text) c) PrinterSetUp : If system installed properly, a printer software should have been installed (lpr or lprng): IS lpd daemon running ? YES ELSE Try manually to get lpd to work and produce anything ! iii) Do a cat FileName | lpr IS something coming ? [Y/N] NO lpq returns: Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'SC800L' Queue: no printable jobs in queue status: removing job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -ABORT at [time] Debian 2.2 kernal 2.2.17 -- Bug in kernal? apsfilter with GS uniprint filters worked in SuSE, RH, Debian2.1, Slackware ... /etc/printcap looks same as prior setups. Again, bug in kernal 2.2.17? John
Re: A new install guide
Don't know if this is the recommended way, but sure it is the easiest and most effective way. After the initial questions you are placed in the edit mode of your specified editor (vi by default) by mutt. At that point just go to the second line where To: is written and edit the addressee. Just make sure that there is a space between the To: and the addressee. It should look like: To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Complicated ? ;-) USM Bish On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 02:09:16PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote: Ooopss. I mistaked again of list. Sorry. Anybody can help? When using mutt and hitting reply in a message from a mailing list it sets the to: field to the person who wrote it... How can I change this behavivour to make it sent to the mailing list instead to the other author ? Thanks.
Re: [OT] Switching kernels without reboot
Placing an extract of the freshmeat daily newsletter of 12 Sep 2k. This may be the kind of stuff you guys are looking for. Never did try it out myself, so no comments ... If any of you guys give it a try .. do let me know. Perhaps others in the list would also be interested as well. Sounds interesting ! ciao USM Bish SNIP- subject: User-mode Linux 0.31-2.4.0-pre8 added by: Jeff Dike on Sep 12th 2000, 06:52 EDT license: GPL category: Development/Kernel homepage: http://freshmeat.net/projects/user-modelinux/homepage/ download: http://freshmeat.net/projects/user-modelinux/download/ description: User-Mode Linux lets you run Linux inside Linux. It is a safe, secure way of running Linux versions and Linux processes. Run buggy software, experiment with new Linux kernels or distributions, and poke around in the internals of Linux, all without risking your main Linux setup. User-Mode Linux gives you a virtual machine that may have more hardware and software virtual resources than your actual, physical computer. You can assign your virtual machine only the hardware access you want it to have. With properly limited access, nothing you do on the virtual machine can change or damage your real computer or its software. SNIP-- On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 05:24:26PM +0200, Jason Quigley wrote: This may be of interest: http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html Cheers, Jason. --On Thursday, September 14, 2000 14:50 +0200 Leen Besselink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw: Is it possible to switch kernels without rebooting. I cannot believe that's possible Actually, I think someone was working on that. Well, first he wants to make it so you can build an other kernel in userspace or something (this is already possible with special kernels).
Re: fishing hooks
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 12:39:23PM +0800, Pang Li wrote: Dear sir or madame: we are a fishing goods trading company located in China mainland, our products include Banksticks, Rodrests, Boxes, Baskets, Seats, Floats Float accessories,etc,if your want to import these products from China.please feel free to contact us. Tel:0086-757-6239656 Fax:0086-757-6336141 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] contact person:Pang Li This is ridiculous ! We cannot afford to have our list jammed with all sorts of disconcerting advertisments ! I have written the mail below to Mr Pang Li directly in his personal mail. I don't know if it will help. If we stay quiet it will set a bad precedence/ trend. WE NEED TO ACT ... and unitedly. I suggest that all of shout back at Mr Pang Li, in ones own personal capacity (without cc to this list) and jam his box so that he does not repeat this sort of stunt on us or any other list for that matter. Any other suggestions ? USM Bish -- Dear Mr Li, Ours is a professional list dealing specifically with issues relating to Debian Linux. We neither appreciate nor encourage anything beyond this scope. We definitely would not like our list (nor any other list for the matter) be used as a venue for advertising .. We request that such posts to our list may kindly be ceased forthwith. Dr USM Bish Note: Please do NOT reply to this list ! --
Re: Printing w/Epson SC800
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 10:40:18PM +0200, Stephan Kulka wrote: 2. LINUX: a) Do a dmesg. Check which device your printer is polled IF polled THEN No kernel problems Move to b) ELSE lp support in kernel (!) Exit ... recompile kernel ... I'm using kernel 2.2.17, could you please explain me what you mean by lp support in kernel?? I have the same problem (so it seems), linux explains: jobs queued, but cannot start daemon Stephan Sorry to be over 12 hrs late in reply. I pick up my mail once a day only. There are two issues here that you have brought about: a) Kernel support for lp b) Kernel 2.2.17 (peculiarities if any for lp) Please give me a day or two, and I will give you the full details in personal mail regarding the first aspect. It would be too long to put on the list. The second aspect is an area I am a bit woolly about, I am still on Slink (Kernel 2.0.36). You may already be aware that beginning with kernel 2.1.33 , the lp device is merely a client of the new parport device. I need to gen up myself on this issue before I can say anything I do not think there should be any significant difference, as far as the lp device is concerned, but its better to be sure. Can anybody who has used kernels beyond 2.1.xx take this aspect on ? USM Bish
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
Actually, both of you are right in your own ways. The rpm is a gzipped cpio file with a few headers ... and therefore, plain and simple cpio cannot work. Alien is a perl script and is dependent upon external progs to do the actual work (where required). An RPM package file is divided in 4 logical sections: . Lead -- 96 bytes of magic and other info . Signature -- collection of digital signatures . Header-- holding area for all the package info . Archive -- compressed archive of all the files in the package The Archive is currently a gzipped cpio archive. The cpio archive type used is SVR4 with a CRC checksum. For further details see /usr/doc/rpm/format.gz (in case you have rpm.deb installed). USM Bish On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 02:46:00PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 02:42:50AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unlike rpm which you need to compile rpm to access a .rpm. I think not. I managed to open an .rpm using the Gnome file manager in a debian-based installation. An .rpm appears to be a cpio archive. Correct me, folks, if this is misinformation. i just tried to extract an rpm with cpio, it failed miserably. rpm may be BASED on cpio file format but that is not what it is anymore. as for gnome i would not be surprised if it used /usr/bin/rpm to do the extraction. in fact: dlocate -s gmc: [...] Suggests: gpm, rpm, gedit, eeyes [...] hmm wonder why it would suggest rpm? perhaps becuase it uses rpm to access .rpm files? Besides, you can always alien-ate an .rpm dlocate -s alien: [...] Depends: debhelper (= 0.88), perl5 | perl (= 5.004), rpm (= 2.4.4-2), dpkg-dev, make, cpio [...] there it is again, seems alien just runs /usr/bin/rpm to access the .rpm file. in fact i recall Joey saying this is how it works in the past. from the alien man page: For converting from and to .rpm format the Red Hat Package ^^^ Manager must be installed (See rpm (8) ). ^ i stand by my statement, it is NOT misinformation. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
Re: Printing w/Epson SC800
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 09:44:47PM -0700, John Gilger wrote: I feel like a total mental case. I have potato up and running fine, but even though I've read a pile of f'ing manuals I can't get my epson sc800 printer to listen when debian talks! I have installed apsfilter, lprng, and aladdin-ghostscript as recommended in the PRINTING-HOWTO, but for some unknown reason my brain has failed me in its ability to figure out what I have to to to get everything working in sync. The embarassing part is this is not the first go round with linux or debian and I am sure that I'm overlooking something blatantly obvious and simple. :( Anybody willing to lend some intelligence to an antique geek with bad memory banks? TIA John Lets start at the very beginning .. A very good place to start When you read you begin with [from Sound of Music!] 1. DOS: Do you have DOS Installed as well ? [Y / N] (An old DOS boot diskette will also do ...) IF Yes THEN Do a TYPE TxtFile PRN IF Output Ok THEN NO Hardware problem Exit DOS and go to Linux ELSE Hardware problem (?) Check cables/ connectors etc. Reboot pray 2. LINUX: a) Do a dmesg. Check which device your printer is polled IF polled THEN No kernel problems Move to b) ELSE lp support in kernel (!) Exit ... recompile kernel ... b) Do a cat Txtfile /dev/lpN (where N is the device polled) IF Output Ok THEN NO Hardware/ kernel problems Exit and go to (c) PrinterSetUp ELSE Check cables etc Reboot and retry c) PrinterSetUp : If system installed properly, a printer software should have been installed (lpr or lprng): IS lpd daemon running ? IF no THEN Kick yourself! Start lpd daemon ... ELSE Try manually to get lpd to work and produce anything ! i) Make a spool directory mkdir /var/spool/lpd ii) Make a simple /etc/printcap lp|foo|my-printer:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/foo:\ :mx#0:\ :lp=/dev/lpN:\ [substitute N for number] :sh: Dont bother about the if= (input filter) at this stage. Just get anything going ... even staircasing is acceptable. iii) Do a cat FileName | lpr IS something coming ? [Y/N] IF yes THEN Happiness ... Read Printing-HOWTO Install magicfilter / aspfilter etc Finger around (and you will get it right sometime!) (geeks are known to have memory-rebound phenomenon after a spell of mental-block!) ELSE Grim scene ! Check for PLIP conflict Check IRQ conflict Check file permissions of lpr, lpd etc Set port addr/ int at boot time with LILO or Loadlin [e.g.lp=0x278,5,0x378,7 ** see Printing-HOWTO] and force your presence into the printing port: IF still no joy THEN PRAY ! ELSE suicide ... You would agree, if nothing is coming out from the printer, this checklist should cover almost everything that readily comes to the mind. Please add if something has been missed .. The rest is actually getting an appropriate driver for your specific printer (for ps printing mainly). Normally epson printers pose no problems, and there should be a driver in either magic/ apsfilter. If no joy you would have to settle for a generic driver but printing should not stop. Best wishes, USM Bish
Editor for rescue disks/ floppy distros
Everthing's the same except the name. This is a re- post, just for change of thread for reasons as below. Yes, I clean forgot that there are people on our list who are on threaded mail readers .. I posted this on the thread of Joe editor yesterday. Thanks Curt for reminding me. USM Bish On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:58:31AM -0500, Debian Linux User wrote: Thanks for this post. This editor is amazing. With the subject line of the thread I just about missed reading it, however. You might want to make your recommendation about including it on the rescue disks in a separate post. Best regards, Curt Daugaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:24:16PM +0518, USM Bish wrote: The joe editor seems to be rather popular, specially amongst people for whom wordstar keys have got ingrained in their genes. There is another editor called w3, which was introduced to me by some-one on this list. The URL is : http://www.sax.de/~adlibit/e3-0.7.tar.gz [82338 bytes] Have been using it for about 2 weeks now. EXCELLENT !! Just 4912 bytes long binary, written fully in assembly (nasm). Fully GPL (with source code). It is 100% Word Star (non-document) mode clone. Has auto-left align as well (remember TurboPascal 3?). It is definitely not a replacement for emacs / vi, but if wordstar compatibility is what you are looking for, this rivals joe any day. If an editor for rescue disks is what is you need,look no further. THIS IS IT. It would be difficult to find a smaller one with all facilites expected of an editor. USM Bish PS: Binary tarball with man (6080 bytes)! Private mail only.
Re: kde or gnome?
Just a small clarification sought : What exactly is meant by Gnome or KDE compliance ? Is it the capability of running Gnome or KDE apps ? I'm on fvwm2 and blackbox. I've both qt (for KDE) and necessary libs for running gnome apps installed. I am able to run kmail, kedit (and other kde packages), gedit, gxedit, balsa etc. (gnome apps) on both these window managers. I thought all window managers would, if the necessary libs are installed. I notice here confirmation of the same with sawfish and icewm. Am I wrong somewhere and there is more to it ? USM Bish On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:24:40AM +, Frank Copeland wrote: On 5 Sep 00 19:05:33 GMT, Felix Natter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Namely, Gnome does not include its own window manager; KDE does. Gnome depends on hooks for Gnome support compiled into an external window manager, and at present the only window manager with full support for Gnome seems to be Enlightenment, AKA `E'. sawfish is now called the official GNOME wm (although you can still change). icewm also fully supports GNOME. It's likely the lightest-weight of the three. Now, if only someone would do a MicroGUI theme for icewm... checks icewm.themes.org oh, silly me. Frank
Re: Joe editor
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 08:27:38PM +0200, staf wagemakers wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 10:40:43AM +0300, Adrian Nims wrote: The command apt-get install joe gave me the follwing answer: Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package joe What can I do next ? The joe editor seems to be rather popular, specially amongst people for whom wordstar keys have got ingrained in their genes. There is another editor called w3, which was introduced to me by some-one on this list. The URL is : http://www.sax.de/~adlibit/e3-0.7.tar.gz [82338 bytes] Have been using it for about 2 weeks now. EXCELLENT !! Just 4912 bytes long binary, written fully in assembly (nasm). Fully GPL (with source code). It is 100% Word Star (non-document) mode clone. Has auto-left align as well (remember TurboPascal 3 ?). It's block operations search and other facilities are superior to joe. It is definitely not a replacement for emacs / vi, but if wordstar compatibility is what you are looking for, this rivals joe any day. If an editor for rescue disks is what is you need,look no further. THIS IS IT. It would be difficult to find a smaller one with all facilites expected of an editor. USM Bish PS: Binary tarball with man (6080 bytes)! Private mail only.
Re: vim + printing = wretched output
I use elvis (not vim). There is no such problem. Incidentally, have you changed your tab setting to anything other than the default 8 ? USM Bish On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 09:30:43AM -0500, William Jensen wrote: Hey guys, has anyone run into bad printing with vim? I spend a few hours editing some notes for class and when I lpt file the spacing was terrible. It's like more/less/lpr treat the tabs/spaces in vim totally different. I also tried printing from within vim with :%w !lpr but it had the same affect. How can I make vim print out exactly as it looks when I'm editing the file? Or, cringe, do I need to go to emacs? Bill
URL for mysql slink binaries
From where could I download mysql server and client (binary distributions) for Slink ?The ones on the debian mirrors now, appear to be for potato. USM Bish
Re: pppd changes permission to /dev/ttyS1 (my modem)
Wrong. That would allow all those users to snoop on each other's ppp connections, since they get read-access to the modem port. I'm the only user - it's my home computer so I don't care. The correct group is dip. Wrong again ;) At least with wvdial. With pon/poff it's all ok. i don't have to be in group dialout nor have g+w permission on /dev/ttyS1. If /dev/ttyS1 is g+w while starting pppd, pppd removes it and puts back on exit. But if i use wvdial, /dev/ttyS1 has to be group writable: SeLeR:/home/piotr# l /dev/ttyS1 crw-r-1 root dialout4, 65 wrz 5 22:41 /dev/ttyS1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/download/5$ wvdial -- -- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.41 -- Cannot open /dev/ttyS1: Permission denied If it has g+w, wvdial is working ok. It connects to my IP and then starts pppd, and pppd removes +w. But I think it's not ending pppd properly. This is from syslog: pppd started by pon and ended by poff: Sep 5 23:00:24 SeLeR pppd[938]: Terminating on signal 15. Sep 5 23:00:24 SeLeR pppd[938]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 User request] Sep 5 23:00:25 SeLeR pppd[938]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 940), stat$Sep 5 23:00:25 SeLeR pppd[938]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down started (pid 970) Sep 5 23:00:26 SeLeR pppd[938]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-down finished (pid 970), st$Sep 5 23:00:27 SeLeR pppd[938]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 User request] Sep 5 23:00:30 SeLeR pppd[938]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x4 User request] Sep 5 23:00:33 SeLeR pppd[938]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x5 User request] Sep 5 23:00:36 SeLeR pppd[938]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x6 User request] Sep 5 23:00:39 SeLeR pppd[938]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Sep 5 23:00:39 SeLeR pppd[938]: Modem hangup Sep 5 23:00:39 SeLeR pppd[938]: Connection terminated. Sep 5 23:00:39 SeLeR pppd[938]: Connect time 0.1 minutes. Sep 5 23:00:39 SeLeR pppd[938]: Sent 97 bytes, received 76 bytes. Sep 5 23:00:40 SeLeR pppd[938]: Exit. Correct me if I am wrong. I notice that you have issued your wvdial command as a user. wvdial and other dial scripts like ppp-go, pon etc which finally call up pppd, needs to be run with root privileges. Even kpppd of kde asks for root password if invoked by an user. pppd is an industry strength software, and it will *surely* not be tricked in to doing things, other than what is necessary by just marking the device g+w! There is no need to change the group for users to just enable dialing. This is okay for stand alone machines or small networks, but imagine a big office scenario where groups could be things like admin, accts, sales etc etc. Surely, no boss would accept change of group just to enable user-dial,at the cost of access to group specific data. Owner, group and permissions for the modem on my system is the default installed by debian. Incidentally, debian developers are very commited and mature and surely would not goof up on these small aspects. The default setup is: crw-r- 1 root dialout4, 64 Sep 6 11:20 /dev/ttyS0 This works perfectly fine for me. This has been the set up for all Linux boxes/ distros that I have used in the last four years+. No failures. I enable user-dial through a program called sudo. Give it a try. For a stand-alone machine, you could dial with root privileges easily with su, and sudo may not be needed at all. USM Bish
Re: LILO-rific
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:08:55PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little confused about boot being set, since shouldn't that maybe be hda1, since windows MBR, er... I really don't get that part so well. The last question is: As of now I'm using a floppy to boot to Linux. Otherwise the system boots to Windows no questions asked, since I haven't touched the MBR. If I load lilo into the MBR, and I decide it's not working out for me, is there a quick way to pull it back out? Much thanks, bye! -Chris Replying to you since I noticed no takers for your mail. It appears, that you are confused on the MBR issue. The Master Boot Record does not belong to any OS per se, and is used to place the bootstrap code to load any OS. This bit of code is normally in assembly. By default, DOS/ Win places its own boot strap routine there at the time of installation. Linux, on the other hand is more polite and gives you an option to load the LInux LOader (LILO) there or not. You may opt to do the same. In case you want to load Windows by default from LILO place a line default=Win before other=. in your lilo.conf. Go through your lilo docs. My personal advise would be to boot through Loadlin with the MBR under control of Win. Loadlin is DOS software, available with all Linux distros. The setup is a bit of a hassel for newbees, but once installed, you can boot Linux through config.sys or autoexec.bat. (Read loadlin docs on how to do it). Many Window$ software like virus scanners and utilities like Norton start grumbling if they do not find a valid MS-DO$ MBR, and the outcome is unpredictable. If you are an experimenting type, you need not use any of these and use a third party boot manager. The choice is upto you. USM Bish -
Re: Debian News Group Needed
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 05:57:19PM +0530, Previ wrote: Hi all, I seriously believe that this and other debian lists are far better managed both by users and debian, using NewsGroups rather than mail lists. Hoping to news://news.debian.org/ soon. Previ Yeah, I'd agree with you to a certain point. If you use http mail servers like hotmail, excite etc the traffic would definitely be an impediment. Some of the servers do not appreciate mailing lists On the other side, the debian list is one of the most bubbly and helpful lists that I have seen. Can you believe I posted a query on 04 Sep 2k (Mon) in the morning, and somebody replied my mail on 03 Sep (Sun) before going to bed in the US ? Many people (like me) would like to keep things this way. In case the volume of mail is what is bothering you there is already a news group for debian. Somebody has replied already news:muc.lists.debian.user. USM Bish
Re: search contents of a tar.gz
If you have Midnight Commander (mc) installed, you can see the contents of a tar.gz file natively. If you need to read a specific file, mc does a temporary extract of the same and displays it for you. If you have kde installed, kfm does the same. USM Bish On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:18:37PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Is there a way to search the contents of a tar.gz file withouth | having to extract everything. Specifically, I want to determine | the disc-id of an audio CD, so I downloaded the freedb database in | tar.gz format. Of course, it's a very large file. I would like to | grep the contents to find the CD that I'm looking for, but I don't | want to extract everything. I thought there would be a series of | piped commands that would allow me to do it, but I can't figure it | out. If you use emacs, you can just visit the compressed tar file and operate on it like any directory-tree. For example, put FOO.tar.gz in some directory DIR. Ctl-x d DIR to run dired (the directory editor) on DIR, move the cursor to FOO.tar.gz and type f. The contents of the tarball will be displayed in the dired buffer and you can operate on the files as if they had been uncompressed and extracted from the archive, even though they haven't. Jim
Re: Debian vs. Red Hat
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 08:11:04AM +0200, J.T. Wenting wrote: That makes RedHat seem like Windows. redhat is a Windows clone built with GNU/Linux technology. always suspected as much... They even have a RedHat Certified Engineer program... MCSE for Linux, anyone? MCSE ? In our part of the world that stands for Must Consult a Second Expert ! Does M$ have some other version of this acronym ? USM Bish
Trimming down of /var/log/messages
With time, the size of /var/log/messages keeps on growing, till it really becomes really huge, with information no longer needed. Since syslogd is constantly monitoring and writing on to it, I have never attempted initialising a fresh /var/log/messages on a running machine. Is there a recommended way wherein I keep the log for the last seven days only, with some process at boot-up or cron ? USM Bish
Re: Trimming down of /var/log/messages
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 09:56:36PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya make sure cron is runningit already rotates log files weekly/monthly... at least on the 1u raid5 debian box i poke around in I need to do some reading on 'cron', and actually do some fine-tuning. I have 'cron' running but it does not seem to rotate my log files as routine. The size of my messages file is over 1 mb and it has not been rotated at all. If someone can give an input in this direction .. it would be of great help. if you want to manually rotate your logs kill syslogd or sysklogdthan move it aside... but you must also kill things like the web server too that logs stuff into /var/log/httpd/ and more stuff to retart Oh No! For a non-techie like me that would surely be a nightmare ! simple silly way...that will always work... - mv /var/log /var/log.old ; mkdir /var/log - reboot - and it should all be cleaned up by itself No, this simple hack is not the answer. I did try it out because of its simplicity. However, the /var/log directory has other stuff which are needed by other programs. The following went kaput: a. dwww. b. Apache server of my two computer local network at home. c. news. There may be more, but I did not try others out, and restored the system back with the old /var/log. Thanks for the hint anyway! The stupid old me never thought of doing it at shut-down, with a fix on cron and boot-up. This lit up a spark in me though. The following had no problems with multiple reboots: #!/bin/sh # -- # Script to rotate /var/log/messages # to be run with root privileges # -- rm -rf /var/log/messages.old mv /var/log/messages /var/log/messages.old touch /var/log/messages reboot For a quick hack, this works. I think I will keep a tag on fast growers in the /var/log subdir, and try to attack specific files rather than move the whole subdirectory. USM Bish On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, USM Bish wrote: Is there a recommended way wherein I keep the log for the last seven days only, with some process at boot-up or cron ? USM Bish
Re: Trimming down of /var/log/messages
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:51:50PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: USM Bish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a recommended way wherein I keep the log for the last seven days only, with some process at boot-up or cron ? Seems like logrotate will fit your bill. Package: logrotate Priority: important Section: admin Conffiles: /etc/logrotate.conf 70593fe48cb39133328b42a560b5a8cf Description: Log rotation utility The logrotate utility is designed to simplify the administration of log files on a system which generates a lot of log files. Logrotate allows for the automatic rotation compression, removal and mailing of log files. Logrotate can be set to handle a log file daily, weekly, monthly or when the log file gets to a certain size. Normally, logrotate runs as a daily cron job. Thanks for the input. I'll try to do an apt-get for logrotate if I get a Slink binary on one of the debian mirrors. Should be a handy thing to try out. USM Bish
Re: LI after Install
Getting a prompt like LI or LIL is a situation from where the system just cannot boot from the hard disk because the LILO code placed in the MBR is broken. The solution to this problem lies in fixing the Master Boot Record. You have no option but to boot from the back-up disks that you created during installation. The options available to you are: a) Re-write MBE with lilo after booting from back-up disk, if you made one. You may do a lilo -v -t to test what lilo is going to do, and then run lilo to write the MBR. OR b) Boot from debian rescue disk image (available on all distros if you installed from CD). You can actually do a part re-installation by going through the last section of the installation menu after mounting your partitions. This is the only recourse, where you do NOT have a boot disk specifically created for your system and you prefer to have Lilo only to do your boot management. OR c) You also have the option of returning the MBR to DOS for a dual OS system. All you need to do is to boot from the DOS/ Win-9x rescue disk and do a FDISK /MBR so that the MBR is back with DOS/ Windows.. You will be able to boot into DOS / Windows at least. Install Loadlin through DOS/ Win-9x and then boot your Linux partition via Loadlin. Please look at Loadlin docs for instructions about how to boot multiple OSs thru config.sys/ autoexec.bat USM Bish On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 08:48:47PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: hi jack take me to your leader ( just kidding ) i hope you have another linux system if you doand its system is same or close enough... copy the kernel from that other box to floppy and boot from floppy other# dd if=/boot/your_kernel of=/dev/fd0 other# rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hda1 - assuming /dev/hda1 is the root partion on broken machine - insert the boot flop intot he broken box ( LIL- ) and when it comes up.rerun lilotake the floppy out and you should be back to normal( make a boot floppy again of that kernel) --- still since toms root/boot fails ?? make a different root/boot floppy from debian or slackware... c ya alvin -- other wisethere /usr/doc/lilo* to go reading and poking around On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Jack Morgan wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Jack Morgan wrote: I installed debian on a new HDD and after installing the base I get LI at boot time? Any suggestions as to what I did wrong? I also tried Tom's boot disk and got LIL- Thanks Jack Morgan Debian GNU/Linux Enthusiast [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mandinka.org -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: lynx gone mad!
w3m ! Is this a text base browser like lynx which you can work on console? How does it manage frames? I have w3mir installed, but that's not a browser. USM Bish On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 10:50:40AM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: give w3m a go! It is far better than lynx IMHO. And it renders both frame/table nicely. apt-get install w3m w3m-ssl Shao.
Re: How to convert multiple pages html doc to other formats?
I am not quite sure why the binaries had kernel specific distributions, perhaps some header info needed for compile. Never investigated the issue further, never struck me ! Dumb bloke that I am! USM Bish On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 09:21:50AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: What does htmldoc do that depends on the kernel? USM Bish wrote: Since this program is version specific, it is better to download the one specific for ones kernel or compile from source. Since I am still on Slink, I have downloaded htmldoc-1.8.7-linux-2.0.36-intel.rpm and installed it with rpm. Works fine for me. Bish On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 09:31:19AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: USM Bish wrote: As far as the original puspose goes, I have only this much to offer - point to http://freshmeat.net and search for an utility called htmldoc. htmldoc-1.8.7 offers the following: No need to get sources from freshmeat and compile... http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/web/htmldoc.html Peter
apt-get a trend setter ?
Placed below are two postings on http://freshmeat.org on 27 Aug 2000. May be of interest to this list. The apt-get team should get the kudos for starting the cloning trend. --- - --- -- - --- -- - - - -- - subject: fAPT 0.4 added by: iMil on Aug 27th 2000, 10:45 license: GPL category: Console/Packaging download: http://freshmeat.net/projects/fapt/download/ description: fAPT is an attempt to bring an apt-get clone to the *BSD world. changes: Initial release. | http://freshmeat.net/projects/fapt/ --- - --- -- - --- -- - - - -- - subject: slack liveUpdate! 0.1.1 added by: camacho on Aug 27th 2000, 00:41 license: freely distributable category: Console/Administration download: http://freshmeat.net/projects/slackliveupdate!/download/ description: slack liveUpdate! is a Slackware upgrade tool which checks for new packages in -current directory, makes a list of them, and lets you choose the packages to be downloaded and optionally installed. changes: This release contains an English translation, fixes for a bug in the shell script, and some minor improvements. urgency: low | http://freshmeat.net/projects/slackliveupdate!/ --- - --- -- - --- -- - - - -- -
Re: Console based Word Processor
Wow ! That's news. Seems rather interesting. A console based frontend to LaTeX ! If you cannot recall the URL, is there any clue to the project/ program name so that one can search for it on one of the search engines on the net? USM Bish On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 11:27:43AM -0400, hawk wrote: bish believed, Surely, LaTeX (and LyX) is definitely a class apart for do- ing real fancy documents, but that's not the use that I am envisaging. I used LyX in the past as well (a good frontend for LaTex for lazy bones)! FYI, a console version of lyx is on its way--the current move is to toolkint independence, and someone is working on an ncurses version in this regard. As I still need to resubscribe (again) to the developers' list, I can't tell you any more off the cuff. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer.
Console based Word Processor
A difficult thing to ask for in today's GUI world. I am looking for a simple light weight console app (non GUI) word processor, something like the good old WordStar (and such relics of yesteryears). Should be able to do formatting of text with left and right justification, setting of left and right margins, text alignment (left, right and centre). Preferentially should be able to save text in pure ASCII. Additional features, if present, welcome. Anybody using one, or can guide me to any ? USM Bish
Re: Console based Word Processor
Grateful for your prompt reply. No, I'm actually looking for a word processor for small time jobs like letters and other odd things that I push out on my DMP. This type of odd jobs actually occupies 60% of my time. I am getting tired of switching to X for such small stuff. The ASCII requirement is a personal fancy for portability to other applications. Perhaps asking for the moon ! I know of quite a few DOS editors capable of that inclusive of WS in non-document mode. Acorn view for the BBC used to do just that. vi editor is the thing that I am using at the moment for the small time jobs, only that the finesse of proper page breaks and justification are missing. Surely, LaTeX (and LyX) is definitely a class apart for do- ing real fancy documents, but that's not the use that I am envisaging. I used LyX in the past as well (a good frontend for LaTex for lazy bones)! Of late I have switched to a new wp called abiword ... does HTML, doc and RTF as well .. and prints fine without any further processing. All these still mean switching to X! USM Bish On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 09:09:53AM -0600, s. keeling wrote: On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 07:10:57PM +0518, USM Bish wrote: A difficult thing to ask for in today's GUI world. I am looking for a simple light weight console app (non GUI) word processor, something like the good old WordStar (and such relics of yesteryears). Should be able to do formatting of text with left and right justification, setting of left and right margins, text alignment (left, right and centre). Preferentially should be able to save text in pure ASCII. Would that be word processor as in not text editor? Do you know about LaTeX? Input files are created in a text editor (vi, jed, ...), passed to LaTeX which produces a .dvi file, and dvips produces a postscript file for ghostscript to send to the printer. In X, you can view it before printing it with xdvi. This is what I use for prettified documents. If you know programming, think of it as a programming language for documents. It's very powerful, there's many good books describing how to use it, and it's well supported in the free software community. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software Serv. Enquire within. [sed 's/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum. Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
Re: Console based Word Processor
Got your point . I suppose emacs is the way out if all others fail. Though the concept in Unix is text processing as opposed to word processing popularised on smaller OSs, it is just possible there may be some in existance. I did a search for console word processors in Linux through various search engines. Not much joy. However, I do vaguely remember seeing a demo ncurses based wp in a Yggdrasil CD (Slackware distro) at a local vendor about three years ago. Hav'nt seen anybody using it though. USM Bish On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 09:19:56AM -0700, Mathew Watson wrote: On 8/27/00 at 7:10 PM USM Bish wrote: A difficult thing to ask for in today's GUI world. I am looking for a simple light weight console app (non GUI) word processor, something like the good old WordStar (and such relics of yesteryears). Anybody using one, or can guide me to any ? This isn't quite what you're looking for, but it may produce the kind of text you want. ... Years ago I used nroff, a macro processor that was used to create UNIX man pages that displayed on TTY screens. I know debian has groff, a program similar to UNIX's troff, and it must have nroff too (or at least it's equivalent). Unfortunately creating your text this way is a two part process. First you edit your text in any non WYSIWYG editor, and then you run it through nroff to produce your text. Many Linux editors allow you to run programs like nroff on the contents of a buffer. In fact, I vaguely remember doing justification in emacs. Something like M-x format-region. I would definitely look through the emacs documentation, because what you are asking for seems, to me anyway, like what emacs should be able to do natively. Hope this helps, Mat
Re: How to convert multiple pages html doc to other formats?
On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 12:51:54PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: :What are the methods for converting multiple pages html document to other :formats like single page html doc, ps, pdf, latex, anything else? :That is, if I have 188 html files that are all parts of the same document, how :can I convert it into one or more of the mentioned formats? If you are looking for an utility to do some of your stuff, you want (not all), please do a search for 'htmldoc' on: www.freshmeat.net I have forgotten the exact URL since I downloaded it over eight weeks ago. Linux dowmloads are in rpm and tar.gz formats. GPL. This program is available for both Windows-9x and Linux (X-Windows). Since it is kernel specific, you need to download the one specific for your kernel. 'htmldoc-1.8.7' can do the following: a) Convert multiple htmls into a single html file b) Convert html files to pdf c) Convert html files to postscript. I have not come across any other 'converter' which can come close to meeting all your needs. USM Bish
Re: problem with debian user mailing list (Server)?
As Steve Lamb, Lehel Bernadt and others pointed out in our list earlier today,the problem was because of because of a site [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Hong Kong causing gateway flooding of our list. The problems seem to have resolved now, since I have downloaded mail after a gap of two hours, and there are only ten new entries with no duplicates, nor any with boundary parameter errors. That is about the normal/ expected volume that pours in. Hopefully this is a sporadic episode by accident and not by intent ... Bish On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 08:22:30PM +0200, I. Tura wrote: At 16.54 25/8/00 +0200, marco frattola ha escrit: i don't know if it's just me, but i keep receiving old messages, even from 3 days ago .. is there anything wrong with the list server? Me too. But just today, Friday. 396 messages got. Ignasi
Re: How to convert multiple pages html doc to other formats?
Since this program is version specific, it is better to download the one specific for ones kernel or compile from source. Since I am still on Slink, I have downloaded htmldoc-1.8.7-linux-2.0.36-intel.rpm and installed it with rpm. Works fine for me. Bish On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 09:31:19AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: USM Bish wrote: As far as the original puspose goes, I have only this much to offer - point to http://freshmeat.net and search for an utility called htmldoc. htmldoc-1.8.7 offers the following: No need to get sources from freshmeat and compile... http://www.debian.org/Packages/unstable/web/htmldoc.html Peter -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Star Office
Try abiword. The deb package is on the debian site. The
official site for this is http://www.abiword.com. This
is capable of reading/ writing on M$ doc format -Office97
Have not tried with more advanced M$-Word versions. Also
capable of handling rtf format (both read and write).
USM Bish
On Sat, Aug 26, 2000 at 12:27:24AM +0200, I. Tura wrote:
I need to read a MS Word document. Are there
any other software in Debian for viewing a
MS Word doc?. I have a Debian 2.2 system.
Thanks
catdoc will transform it into text. No graphics, no structuration.
Ignasi
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Re: xdm
Debian boot process does not vary with changes in initlevel and if X is installed, by default, boots into xdm. To remove this, use [update-rc.d] program, meant for changing init parameters in Sys-V init process. Read man for this. #update-rc.d -f xdm remove The things that are done by the script include removal of all system startup links for /etc/init.d/xdm ... i.e. /etc/rc0.d/K01xdm /etc/rc1.d/K01xdm /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm /etc/rc3.d/S99xdm /etc/rc4.d/S99xdm /etc/rc5.d/S99xdm /etc/rc6.d/K01xdm You will boot into tty mode therafter, and would have to use startx subsequently to get into X. USM Bish On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 05:28:53PM -0500, Brad wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 04:29:56PM -0600, cls-colo spgs wrote: curiously, what makes it suboptimal?--it moves the file out of the way, it keeps x at bay until desired, and doesn't hurt the system. what's missing? 1. Start the system in runlevel 2: no xdm 2. Change to runlevel 3: xdm starts 3. Change to runlevel 2: you expect no xdm, but xdm remains up because there was no kill symlink. -- finger for GPG public key.
Re: How to convert multiple pages html doc to other formats?
The person who started this thread basically wanted some utility to join multiple html documents, and convert html documents to various formats like pdf, ps, txt etc. As far as the original puspose goes, I have only this much to offer - point to http://freshmeat.net and search for an utility called htmldoc. htmldoc-1.8.7 offers the following: a. Conversion of html to pdf b. Conversion of html to ps c. Joining multiple htmls to a single large html file Pretty nifty for a multi-platform app. USM Bish On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 12:26:06PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 07:26:05AM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 12:51:54PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: :What are the methods for converting multiple pages html document to other :formats like single page html doc, ps, pdf, latex, anything else? :That is, if I have 188 html files that are all parts of the same document, how :can I convert it into one or more of the mentioned formats? not that html is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but... why convert from html? it's universally easy for newbies to browse (when set up properly) and using a source tool such as wml, easy to maintain... ps is great for printing (pdf, closely related, is good for true-to-original on-screen or print) but there's so durn many utilities to index/crossref html files, i'd think you're done already... i wish ALL this linux documentation were in searchable, browsable html format without having to learn info commands, manpage constructs, so forth. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Win98 won't shutdown after Linux install
I had a similar problem last year, but that was when my boot sector was on Lilo, and I had virus scanners installed. MS-DO$ and MS- Window$ is rather posessive about the boot sector, and several software inclusive of NDD, scandisk and related software start giving warnings. Virus scanners scan the boot sector during shut down and may be the cause of the problem. These problems have all gone now after removal of Lilo and booting through Loadlin. The Loadlin documentation gives details about loading multiple OSs through Config.sys. Linux is definitely more polite and does not quarrel about posession of the boot sector. If Lilo booting is the problem this may help Bish On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 05:29:37PM -0700, Jonathan Neufeld wrote: I'm a casual user of Linux and have some familiarity with several distributions. I recently bought a new computer and installed Win98 first, then paritioned the drive (using DiskDrake during a Mandrake install) and installed several distributions, including Debian 2.2 and Storm. Since partitioning my drive, Win98 has refused to shut down cleanly and has given me the error WINDOWS: A fatal exception 0E has occurred at 0028:C00051EF in VXD VMM(01) + 41EF. The current application will be terminated. After pressing any key, the screen reverts to a blank green background with the mouse pointer in the middle, but the machine is totally unresponsive. I have to do a hard boot to get things going again. None of my Linux install are affected, and after cleaning itself up, Win98 seems fine, too. I realize this is NOT a M$ support list. But I thought I might find a kind soul here who has dealt with this problem or could refer me to the right group. Thanks for any help offered. Jonathan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: color in Emacs
List of colours to choose from is in a file called /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb.txt. The combination of colours dependes upon your personal choice, and trial and error is the best answer. My personal choice is: emacs*background:DarkSlateGrey emacs*foreground:Wheat Bish On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:42:38AM +0200, Goeman Stefan wrote: Hello, Putting something like this emacs*background:white emacs*foreground:black in the .Xdefault file is nice. But, does there exist a list of colors to choose from. For example, as background I used grey but I find it still to dark. Is there a way to get it brighter (without using background:white)? Greetings, Stefan Goeman. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
