Re: Help Installing Debian

2011-05-22 Thread Arno Schuring
Klistvud (klist...@gmail.com on 2011-05-21 10:04 +0200):
 Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a):
 
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  I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with
  moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?
 
 Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need
 a (tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed.
 There's no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS
 partition table).
Exactly. If you want to boot from a GPT-based disk with grub2 (and you
have a BIOS-based system), you need to create a partition for it. The
type is BIOS Boot Partition (gdisk type ef02, don't know how other
partitioning software handles it), and it can be as small as 64kB. I
usually use a partition size of 256kB just to be sure.

For a laugh, check out the GUID for the BBP on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition :)


HTH,
Arno


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Help Installing Debian

2011-05-21 Thread Joy
Dear All,
 I am using IBM System X 3400 M3 with Raid1 and Raid5.
Raid1 id being used to have Debian and raid5 for /home partiotion.
Whenever i am trying to install it after creating a partition when it
goes to format reboots my system. I have also tried lenny 5.8 which is
not detecting my disk at all neither showing anything missing. I have
tried RHEL 5.4 which says can not create boot partition because og GPT
partitioning scheme. I could  only manage to install RHEL 6
successfully.

Please let me know what is the issue.

Thanks


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Re: Help Installing Debian

2011-05-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 21 May 2011 11:35:42 +0530, Joy wrote:

  I am using IBM System X 3400 M3 with Raid1 and Raid5.
 Raid1 id being used to have Debian and raid5 for /home partiotion.

Are those raid over a hardware raid controller or you want to create a 
software based raid?

 Whenever i am trying to install it after creating a partition when it
 goes to format reboots my system. 

You can try to install Debian with the partitions already made and 
formatted, using the Gparted LiveCD.

 I have also tried lenny 5.8 which is not detecting my disk at all
 neither showing anything missing. 

Better than lenny is squeeze, now the current stable. If lenny was not 
detecting your hard disks that can mean that:

1/ Your hard disk controller is very new and the kernel shipped with 
lenny did not included the drivers for it.

2/ Your hard disk setup is not recognized by the installer (for instance, 
if you are using the BIOS sata raid facility and so you need to use 
dmraid, which I do not recommend at all).

 I have tried RHEL 5.4 which says can not create boot partition because
 og GPT partitioning scheme. I could  only manage to install RHEL 6
 successfully.

I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with 
moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?

Debian installer logs messages to console tty4, maybe you can jump into 
it at the partitioning stage to have more information about the error.

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Re: Help Installing Debian

2011-05-21 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a):

[snip]


I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with
moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-?


Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need a  
(tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed. There's  
no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS partition  
table).


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Need Desperate Help Installing Debian-Builder

2008-05-05 Thread Yassir Saeed
Hi
I am trying to get my hands dirty with linux as a MS(CS) Advanced Operation 
system Final Project. So far i am going fine enough, but i am having a problem 
installing debian-builder package
 
i tried to install it from Aptitude (package manager) but there are lot of 
dependencies they have the message unsatisfactory or  unavailable.
 
also i have no luck with apt-get. i do not know how to edit resources.list as 
root, and donot know to links required to install debian-builder package
 
Please i beg you to help be Fate of my course is in your hands
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Re: Need Desperate Help Installing Debian-Builder

2008-05-05 Thread Jochen Schulz
Yassir Saeed:

 I am trying to get my hands dirty with linux as a MS(CS) Advanced
 Operation system Final Project. So far i am going fine enough, but i
 am having a problem installing debian-builder package

Which version of Debian are you running? Etch (=stable), lenny
(=testing) or sid (=unstable)?

 i tried to install it from Aptitude (package manager) but there are
 lot of dependencies they have the message unsatisfactory or
 unavailable.

Please post the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list of your
system and the output of 'apt-cache policy debian-builder'. If you are
using stable, you shouldn't have any problem installing debian-builder.

In the future, please copy and paste the exact error message you
receive.

 also i have no luck with apt-get. i do not know how to edit
 resources.list as root,

Doing something as root means (most of the time) to open a terminal
window and type 'su' to change your user ID to root. All commands you
enter after 'su'ing will be run as root.

To edit files in a terminal, you can use 'vim' (which is hard to use if
you do not already know it) or nano (much easier, but not that
powerful).

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Re: Need Desperate Help Installing Debian-Builder

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 03:33:31PM +0500, Yassir Saeed wrote:
 I am trying to get my hands dirty with linux as a MS(CS) Advanced
 Operation system Final Project. So far i am going fine enough, but i
 am having a problem installing debian-builder package
  
 i tried to install it from Aptitude (package manager) but there are
 lot of dependencies they have the message unsatisfactory or
 unavailable.
  
 also i have no luck with apt-get. i do not know how to edit
 resources.list as root, and donot know to links required to install
 debian-builder package
  
 Please i beg you to help be Fate of my course is in your hands Yasir
 saeed  (please reply at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does this mean that those of us without a CS anything degree can
automatically get a MS(CS) if we've been using CLI debian for years, and
can correctly answer your question?

Cool.

:)

If you don't know how to edit resources.list as root then you probably
should not be installing debian-builder or trying to build (or rebuild)
packages. :)

To install packages, you have to be root, however you get there (login,
su, sudo, or aptitude asking you for root's password).  If anyone but
root could edit sources.list then they could Trojan-horse the whole
system.

Run aptitude update then use aptitude interactively and select
debian-builder.  If any dependancies are unmet, you'll see it there
before you try to install it.  You can then poke around and see what's
up.

Then you'll have to become root.  If this is your machine, you will have
the root password.  If this is not your machine, you'll have to ask the
sysadmin for some help.

Doug.

P.S.  My address has been posted to this list before.  You can mail my
MS(CS) degree at your convenience.

:)


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Re: Need Help Installing Debian on My Computer

2005-08-22 Thread Court Thomas
On Sunday 14 August 2005 9:52 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting Court Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I have a new computer and am having a hard time installing linux.  The
  computer is a Dell XPS pentium 4 system.  The BIOS identifies the system
  as a 64 bit system.  I've tried installing SUSE 9.3 but with little luck.
 
  My computer is capable of booting from the CD drive, but when I try
  booting the system with the Debian ia64 disk, the system states that it
  can't boot from the disk.  When I try booting with the Debian i386 disk, 
  the installation processing can't find the hard disks.  I know that the
  computer can boot from the CD drive because I can boot Knoppix 3.9.  I've
  tried using debootstrap from Knoppix (since it's based on Debian) but
  when I debootstraping  the i386 Debian 3.1, the system dies and when I
  try debootstrapping the ia64 Debian 3.1, the system fails trying to mount
  proc.

 The IA-64 shouldn't work on your system. That port is designed for the
 intel Itantium chip. If you want to take adavantage of your 64 bit box,
 try the AMD64 (x86_64) port of Debian.
I ordered a set of Debian 3.1 AMD64 disks.  I had no better luck installing 
from them.  Both the AMD64 and i386 disks report that they can find 
partionable disks.

 Did you try the running the installer with a 2.6 kernel?
I tried booting linux26 and expert26 on the i386 distribution.  The AMD64 
distribution reported that there wasn't a linux26 option (maybe because it 
only has a 2.6 kernel?).  Booting just linux on the AMD64 distribution didn't 
work either.  I tried just about all the options listed from the boot help 
screen on both distributions, but with no luck.

 It would help if you described the type of hard disks you have.
I have serial ATA drives.  The boot.msg file (from a SuSE installation) lists 
the drive that I hope to install Debian on as a HDS725050KLA360 if that's any 
help.  The primary drive is a Western Digital, but it's formatted for a NTFS 
file system.  I'm keeping my Linux physically separate from that other 
operating system.

 Cheers,
 Mike


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Need Help Installing Debian on My Computer

2005-08-14 Thread Court Thomas
I have a new computer and am having a hard time installing linux.  The 
computer is a Dell XPS pentium 4 system.  The BIOS identifies the system as a 
64 bit system.  I've tried installing SUSE 9.3 but with little luck.

My computer is capable of booting from the CD drive, but when I try booting 
the system with the Debian ia64 disk, the system states that it can't boot 
from the disk.  When I try booting with the Debian i386 disk,  the 
installation processing can't find the hard disks.  I know that the computer 
can boot from the CD drive because I can boot Knoppix 3.9.  I've tried using 
debootstrap from Knoppix (since it's based on Debian) but when I 
debootstraping  the i386 Debian 3.1, the system dies and when I try 
debootstrapping the ia64 Debian 3.1, the system fails trying to mount proc.

I'm not happy with the SUSE installation as I can only acheive a very low 
screen resolution and the mouse pointer is invisible.  I've tried fixing it 
but with no success.  I know that the Debian version would work better since 
Knoppix provides better screen resolution and the mouse pointer is visible.  
I would be happy to provide any details necessary to facilitate your 
assistance.

Thanks,
Court Thomas


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Re: Need Help Installing Debian on My Computer

2005-08-14 Thread michael

Quoting Court Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I have a new computer and am having a hard time installing linux.  The
computer is a Dell XPS pentium 4 system.  The BIOS identifies the system as a
64 bit system.  I've tried installing SUSE 9.3 but with little luck.

My computer is capable of booting from the CD drive, but when I try booting
the system with the Debian ia64 disk, the system states that it can't boot
from the disk.  When I try booting with the Debian i386 disk,  the
installation processing can't find the hard disks.  I know that the computer
can boot from the CD drive because I can boot Knoppix 3.9.  I've tried using
debootstrap from Knoppix (since it's based on Debian) but when I
debootstraping  the i386 Debian 3.1, the system dies and when I try
debootstrapping the ia64 Debian 3.1, the system fails trying to mount proc.

The IA-64 shouldn't work on your system. That port is designed for the 
intel Itantium chip. If you want to take adavantage of your 64 bit box, 
try the AMD64 (x86_64) port of Debian.


Did you try the running the installer with a 2.6 kernel?

It would help if you described the type of hard disks you have.

Cheers,
Mike



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Re: Need Help Installing Debian on My Computer

2005-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Court Thomas wrote:
 I have a new computer and am having a hard time installing linux.
 The computer is a Dell XPS pentium 4 system.  The BIOS identifies
 the system as a 64 bit system.

That is Intel's implementation of the amd64 architecture previously
known as x86-64.  This is also known as Intel EM64T.  Not to be
confused with ia64 which is a different architecture.  Intel has
recently started rebranding these as 64-bit Xeons.

 I've tried installing SUSE 9.3 but with little luck.

Strange.  Should work fine.  I assume that is a 32-bit i686 system?

 My computer is capable of booting from the CD drive, but when I try booting 
 the system with the Debian ia64 disk, the system states that it can't boot 
 from the disk.

That is one problem right there.  The ia64 is a completely different
architecture unrelated to amd64.  Your computer is speaking Klingon
and your boot disk is speaking Ferengi.  They don't mix.  You cannot
boot an ia64 disk on your machine.

Debian does not officially support the 64-bit amd64 architecture.  But
there is a thriving unofficial community.  I am typing this message on
an unofficial 64-bit Debian amd64 system.  See this howto for more
information.

  http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html

But even though the amd64 project is alive and well I recommend that
you stick to a 32-bit installation.  You don't seem to need the 64-bit
system.  Unless you have more than 4GB of ram or are developing for a
platform that does then you won't really be able to use the large
memory capabilities.  And quite frankly (please don't take offense)
because you are confused by the architectures I think I would
recommend that you keep it simple and stick to the mainstream
i386/i686 installation.  It will run fine on your machine and it is a
tried and true performer.

 When I try booting with the Debian i386 disk, the installation
 processing can't find the hard disks.

To solve this problem we will need more information.  What type of
disks are in the machine?  Serial ATA?  You are trying to use a
released sarge/stable installation disk?

When you boot Knoppix you should be able to determine what type of
interface is in the machine with 'lspci'.

At the Debian installer prompt you have a choice of either installing
the linux 2.4 kernel or the linux 2.6 kernel.  The default is the
linux 2.4 kernel.  Instead I highly recommend installing the linux 2.6
kernel.  I am guessing you have SATA drives and will need the newer
kernel.

 I know that the computer can boot from the CD drive because I can
 boot Knoppix 3.9.

Debian is using the same technology that Knoppix is using.  Namely the
'discover' package.  Presumably anything that Knoppix boots on the
Debian installer disk should also be able to detect.  (But of course
it is not perfect.)  However it makes me wonder if your Debian install
disk is really the latest version available.

 I've tried using debootstrap from Knoppix (since it's based on
 Debian) but when I debootstraping the i386 Debian 3.1, the system
 dies and when I try debootstrapping the ia64 Debian 3.1, the system
 fails trying to mount proc.

Try debootstrapping the i386 architecture.  (Or the amd64
architecture.)  The ia64 will not run on your amd64 machine.

 I'm not happy with the SUSE installation as I can only acheive a very low 
 screen resolution and the mouse pointer is invisible.  I've tried fixing it 
 but with no success.  I know that the Debian version would work better since 
 Knoppix provides better screen resolution and the mouse pointer is visible.  
 I would be happy to provide any details necessary to facilitate your 
 assistance.

Of course over here on the Debian lists we will all agree that you
have made a good choice to install on your computer.  But from a
practical standpoint SuSE's X11 installation should be fine too.  I
think making a distro choice based upon screen resolution is the wrong
criteria.  I think you are making the right choice but for the wrong
reasons and because of this won't be happy with Debian either.

Bob


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Re: Asking for help: installing debian on Athlon needing nvidia driver

2004-03-03 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Monique Y. Herman wrote:

On 2004-03-02, Sis penned:
 

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Kenward Vaughan wrote:

   

You should start a new thread for a new question.  You are more
likely to catch people that way, should they be cruisin'n'bruisin' by
Subject in a threaded reader.
 

  Hmmm. I'm not sure what you mean, since i just sent in a message
  with my own subject. Isn't that starting a new thread? But,
  nevertheless...
   

If you just hit reply, the headers for the e-mail still indicate the old 
thread.  Not all lists work that way, but this one does.  So, write a 
new message and insert the debian user list address for to:

   

Actually, it's not.  To start your own thread, you need to mail the list
directly, rather than replying.  

 



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Re: Asking for help: installing debian on Athlon needing nvidia driver

2004-03-03 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-03-02, Sis penned:
 On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Kenward Vaughan wrote:

 You should start a new thread for a new question.  You are more
 likely to catch people that way, should they be cruisin'n'bruisin' by
 Subject in a threaded reader.

Hmmm. I'm not sure what you mean, since i just sent in a message
with my own subject. Isn't that starting a new thread? But,
nevertheless...


Actually, it's not.  To start your own thread, you need to mail the list
directly, rather than replying.  

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Re: Asking for help: installing debian on Athlon needing nvidia driver

2004-03-02 Thread Sis
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Kenward Vaughan wrote:

 You should start a new thread for a new question.  You are more likely
 to catch people that way, should they be cruisin'n'bruisin' by Subject in a
 threaded reader.

   Hmmm. I'm not sure what you mean, since i just sent in a message
with my own subject. Isn't that starting a new thread? But,
nevertheless...

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 06:50:09PM -0800, Sis wrote:
 ...
 I just acquired a 2 year old computer with Athlon 1800+
 ...
 Any clues as to how i can install Debian on this box, using the
  onboard nic, would be greatly appreciated.

 Caveat: IANAG. I'm not sure how tight the ties are between the kernel
 and BIOS on things like onboard NICs, but the first place I'd start is
 in BIOS, looking to disable the onboard one.

   Bingo! Thank you very much. That's what i did and the nic i
inserted is working just fine. Now, if i could just get the nic part
of the nvidia onboard to work i would really be thrilled.

 The Linux section on that forum seems relatively sharp about this sort
 of stuff.  You might consider signing up ( www.amdmb.com and follow the
 forum link) and posting the question there too.  They'll need much more
 information about the MB, of course, as well as possibly the stock
 kernel being used.  Others here likely could use that info as well. ;-)

   I will check out their forum.

   Thank you again.

ps

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Asking for help: installing debian on Athlon needing nvidia driver

2004-02-27 Thread Sis
Hello,

   I have just subscribed, so please let me know if there is an
archived answer/FAQ i should be reading. (I found some but not the
answer to my question.)

   I just acquired a 2 year old computer with Athlon 1800+
motherboard, including an nvidia based NIC. I tried to install
Debian using a CD that i normally use and, of course, it doesn't
recognize the nic because the nvidia drivers are not provided. I
then put in a 3C905 card to temporarily use to get to the network.
But when i use the CD, the boot hangs and never gets to the
installation. I remove the 3C905 and everything works again... of
course, without the network! Argh.

   Any clues as to how i can install Debian on this box, using the
onboard nic, would be greatly appreciated.

   Thank you in advance.


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Re: Asking for help: installing debian on Athlon needing nvidia driver

2004-02-27 Thread Kenward Vaughan
You should start a new thread for a new question.  You are more likely
to catch people that way, should they be cruisin'n'bruisin' by Subject in a
threaded reader.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 06:50:09PM -0800, Sis wrote:
...
I just acquired a 2 year old computer with Athlon 1800+
 motherboard, including an nvidia based NIC. I tried to install
 Debian using a CD that i normally use and, of course, it doesn't
 recognize the nic because the nvidia drivers are not provided. I
 then put in a 3C905 card to temporarily use to get to the network.
 But when i use the CD, the boot hangs and never gets to the
 installation. I remove the 3C905 and everything works again... of
 course, without the network! Argh.
 
Any clues as to how i can install Debian on this box, using the
 onboard nic, would be greatly appreciated.

Caveat: IANAG. I'm not sure how tight the ties are between the kernel
and BIOS on things like onboard NICs, but the first place I'd start is
in BIOS, looking to disable the onboard one.

Second idea is whether you know the card is hardwired to an irq which
conflicts directly with something else? (I used to have this happen
with ISA--don't know if the same may happen on PCI systems.)

Another thought would be to move the card physically to a different
slot.  There may be early confusion because of sharing the slot's
irq/id/whatever-it's-called-thingy with another, major subsystem such
as the video card or HD's.  (I remember reading something about this on
the AMD forum not too long ago.)

The Linux section on that forum seems relatively sharp about this sort
of stuff.  You might consider signing up ( www.amdmb.com and follow the
forum link) and posting the question there too.  They'll need much more
information about the MB, of course, as well as possibly the stock
kernel being used.  Others here likely could use that info as well. ;-)

HTH,

Kenward
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Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )

2001-09-16 Thread Paul Mackinney
Here's what I do, got it from some dual-boot HOWTO or something:

1. The Win2000 system is set up and installed, all OK.
2. Lilo is set up as follows:
  boot=/dev/hda5  # instead or boot=/dev/hda
This is the option to install to the partition instead of the MBR.
3. After running lilo, I run the command
  dd bs=512 if=/dev/hda5 of= bootsect.lnx count=1
This copies the first 512 bytes of /dev/hda5 to the file bootsect.lnx.
4. Copy the file bootsect.lnx into the root of your Win2000 system.
5. Edit your Windows boot.ini file by adding the line:
  C:\bootsect.lnx=Debian Linux
6. Now you're good to go. Each time you boot, the Windows boot menu will
list Debian Linux as an option. On my system it's the default.

The downside to this method is that you have to recreate the 
bootsect.lnx file every time you you run lilo, but I don't do that too
often.

HTH, Paul

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Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )

2001-09-12 Thread Joe Bouchard
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:20:57PM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:
 I would do that, but there is one main problem that i can't remember if i
 mentioned way back in the beginning...I have my three hard drives on a
 Promise UDMA66 card...and my DVD and CD burner are on the motherboard.
 So...maybe that's the problem my BIOS is having.  It could be conflicting
 with my Promise card's BIOS and not knowing which drive to boot up, so the
 BIOS overrides anything else.  I might be stuck with trying GRUB...but not
 much is going on there either...I made a GRUB boot disk...and when it boots,
 it doesn't give me a menu or anything...just says GRUB .  I'll get Linux
 on this machine one way or another.  Just don't know the best way to go
 about doing it.  I have a backup of Win2000, and the rest of the drive, so
 that isn't a problem(not that I know of).  Anyone out there have a Promise
 card, and had Windows2000 installed first, then tried to install Debian?  If
 you did, please let me know how the heck you got it installed.  The help
 would be GREATLY appreciated!!! :))  I'm not giving up...

A few years ago, when I was first learning linux, there was a rule that
a pc operating system MUST boot off one of the first 2 IDE drives.  I
believe that wasn't a LILO thing so much as in IA (Intel Architecture)
thing.  Of course at that time, we had a 512 Mb booting rule too . . .

Maybe the above doesn't apply any more, but it might.

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Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-05 Thread Matthew Dalton
Hall Stevenson wrote:

 No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things
 much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can
 handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first'
 (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR.

Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it
is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot
from the Windows 2000 bootloader.

If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000
installation unbootable.

This howto tells you what to do for a Windows NT/Linux dual boot
machine. Read it and see if it can apply to Windows 2000 as well.

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html


Matthew



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-05 Thread Dmitriy
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote:
 Hall Stevenson wrote:
 
  No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things
  much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can
  handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first'
  (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR.
 
 Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it
 is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot
 from the Windows 2000 bootloader.
 
 If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000
 installation unbootable.
 
 This howto tells you what to do for a Windows NT/Linux dual boot
 machine. Read it and see if it can apply to Windows 2000 as well.
 
 http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
 
I really don't know about LILO with this,
but I have GRUB in my MBR, and it is able to load W2K using 
chainloader  +1 , but I am not sure if LILO will be able to load it.



 
 Matthew
 
 
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Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-05 Thread Sam Varghese
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote:
 Hall Stevenson wrote:
 
  No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things
  much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can
  handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first'
  (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR.
 
 Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it
 is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot
 from the Windows 2000 bootloader.
 
 If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000
 installation unbootable.

It depends on what kind of filesystem you have chosen for your
Win2K installation. If it is NTFS, then you can use lilo to
call the Win2K bootloader; Linux can be booted through lilo
as usual. If you have used FAT32, then you can use lilo
as you would for earlier avatars of Windoze.

Sam
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Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)

2001-09-05 Thread LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
Title: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire) 





Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it to the boot partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh well, i will try again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where would I find cd images of Woody? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I can't find the images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder...

trying to find the light...
kris





Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)

2001-09-05 Thread dman
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 07:39:17AM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:
| Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR.  I did install it to the boot
| partition.  However, nothing came up at boot time.  Oh well, i will try
| again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something.  Where would I find cd
| images of Woody?  I am willing to give it a whirl.  If I can't find the
| images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder...

Grab ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-0.90-i386-pc.ext2fs and dump it
to a floppy disk.  Then you can boot with it.  If you like grub then I
can provide you with more details on configuring and installing it.
When booting grub provides you with a preconfigured menu (that is, you
configure it by ediing a file, this floppy image comes with a sample
config) and a command line so that you can try out various options and
see what works.  If you installed Linux on /dev/hda1 then you want to
have (hd0,0) as your root partition in grub's config.

You can dump the image to a floppy using

dd if=grub-0.90-i386-pc.ext2fs of=/dev/fd0

or you can use rawwritewin if you have a windows system (it's much
better now since it has a gui).

HTH,
-D



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)

2001-09-05 Thread Timeboy
On 2001.09.05 15:39 LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:
 Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR.  I did install it to the boot
 partition.  However, nothing came up at boot time.  Oh well, i will try
 again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something.  Where would I find cd
 images of Woody?  I am willing to give it a whirl.  If I can't find the
 images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder...

Hey!

Don't give up. Debian is a little bit harder to use for newbies, then
Mandrake or somthimg like else. But the best Linux i ever used.

How i remember you have your Windows on a FAT32 partition? You can put
LILO into your MBR. And if you take my suggestion (Linux on the first
HD), there are no problems if you install LILO into MBR of this Linux
drive.

I don't know whether there is a CD image for Woody. But do you have a
CD set from Potato? Then install first Potato. Best only the base
packages and that was is needed to get an connection to the internet.
Using the tool dselect is very good to get an easy upgrade to Woody.
And then you can install the other packages are needed of you.

There is nothing while booting your new Debian Linux? Do you remember
my words that the BIOS only can boot from you first hard disk? If
Debian is on another disk you have to set your other disks to none
in your BIOS. Then you should be able to boot from your Linux drive.
After you have configured your LILO correct, you can put your other 
drives again into the BIOS.

Timo



RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )

2001-09-05 Thread LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)





Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would really really like to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I would like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and install it onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on it...I have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make sense.

 -Original Message-
 From: Timeboy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM
 To: LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain
 misfire)
 
 
 On 2001.09.05 15:39 LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:
  Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it 
 to the boot
  partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh 
 well, i will try
  again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where 
 would I find cd
  images of Woody? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I 
 can't find the
  images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder...
 
 Hey!
 
 Don't give up. Debian is a little bit harder to use for newbies, then
 Mandrake or somthimg like else. But the best Linux i ever used.
 
 How i remember you have your Windows on a FAT32 partition? You can put
 LILO into your MBR. And if you take my suggestion (Linux on the first
 HD), there are no problems if you install LILO into MBR of this Linux
 drive.
 
 I don't know whether there is a CD image for Woody. But do you have a
 CD set from Potato? Then install first Potato. Best only the base
 packages and that was is needed to get an connection to the internet.
 Using the tool dselect is very good to get an easy upgrade to Woody.
 And then you can install the other packages are needed of you.
 
 There is nothing while booting your new Debian Linux? Do you remember
 my words that the BIOS only can boot from you first hard disk? If
 Debian is on another disk you have to set your other disks to none
 in your BIOS. Then you should be able to boot from your Linux drive.
 After you have configured your LILO correct, you can put your other 
 drives again into the BIOS.
 
 Timo
 





Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )

2001-09-05 Thread dman
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:32:13AM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:
| Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian.  I would really really like
| to get it up and running.  My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the
| C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive.  I would
| like to stay with LILO if possible.  I'm about to break down and install it
| onto the same drive as Win2000.  I'll just make another partition on it...I
| have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something
| else on it.  Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make
| sense.

Go with GRUB!  It works beautifully.  There is a Dell machine at work
that has win2k on the beginning of the (big) hard drive and RH on the
end.  LILO (that came with RH6.2 anyways) had trouble booting Linux
because it was too far into the disk, and I couldn't get it to boot
win2k at all.  Then I tried grub and had no trouble with either OS.

In addition, my home PC had win98 on the first hard disk (ide bus 0)
and Debian on the second hard disk (ide bus 1).  LILO couldn't boot
linux because my BIOS was too crappy to boot from the second disk (it
was a compaq machine).  After my good experience with grub at work I
tried it at home and it had no trouble dual-booting!

IMO grub is much easier to configure and use than lilo too.

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub

HTH,
-D




Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-05 Thread Rino Mardo
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000 or thereabouts, Matthew Dalton wrote:
 Hall Stevenson wrote:
 
  No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things
  much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can
  handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first'
  (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR.
 
 Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it
 is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot
 from the Windows 2000 bootloader.
 
 If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000
 installation unbootable.
 
...snipped...
i object! always wanted to say that. :-)

i have win2k, linux, freebsd on my box and i use lilo to boot each OS.

letting the win2k bootloader to boot your linux partition will only make it
hard for you should you choose to recompile your kernel.


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RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3

2001-09-05 Thread LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3





How did you do it? Also, do you have Win2000 on your first drive and then Debian on your second drive?


 -Original Message-
 From: Rino Mardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:16 AM
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000 or thereabouts, 
 Matthew Dalton wrote:
  Hall Stevenson wrote:
  
   No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things
   much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can
   handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first'
   (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR.
  
  Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything 
 like NT (it
  is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup 
 Linux to boot
  from the Windows 2000 bootloader.
  
  If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your 
 Windows 2000
  installation unbootable.
  
 ...snipped...
 i object! always wanted to say that. :-)
 
 i have win2k, linux, freebsd on my box and i use lilo to boot each OS.
 
 letting the win2k bootloader to boot your linux partition 
 will only make it
 hard for you should you choose to recompile your kernel.
 





Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )

2001-09-05 Thread csj
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:32:13 -0600 
LaGuardia, Kristofer S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian.  I would really really
like
 to get it up and running.  My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed
on the
 C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive.  I
would
 like to stay with LILO if possible.  I'm about to break down and
install it
 onto the same drive as Win2000.  I'll just make another partition on
it...I
 have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing
something
 else on it.  Then some of the tutorials and the installation might
make
 sense.

If you're that desperate, I suggest just going to the bios and
temporarily tagging drive C as uninstalled. That way it won't boot
even if you can't get LILO to dual boot. Just install your bootloader on
drive D (hdb), and forget that drive C exists. I once did that in my
dark Window$ days so I can get two different Window$ installations to
live in peace and harmony. Now if you want Bill back, just go to the
bios and do the reverse, tag D as uninstalled and C as installed.



RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )

2001-09-05 Thread LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )





I would do that, but there is one main problem that i can't remember if i mentioned way back in the beginning...I have my three hard drives on a Promise UDMA66 card...and my DVD and CD burner are on the motherboard. So...maybe that's the problem my BIOS is having. It could be conflicting with my Promise card's BIOS and not knowing which drive to boot up, so the BIOS overrides anything else. I might be stuck with trying GRUB...but not much is going on there either...I made a GRUB boot disk...and when it boots, it doesn't give me a menu or anything...just says GRUB . I'll get Linux on this machine one way or another. Just don't know the best way to go about doing it. I have a backup of Win2000, and the rest of the drive, so that isn't a problem(not that I know of). Anyone out there have a Promise card, and had Windows2000 installed first, then tried to install Debian? If you did, please let me know how the heck you got it installed. The help would be GREATLY appreciated!!! :)) I'm not giving up...

 -Original Message-
 From: csj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:24 PM
 To: LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain
 misfire )
 
 
 On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:32:13 -0600 
 LaGuardia, Kristofer S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would 
 really really
 like
  to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is 
 installed
 on the
  C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I
 would
  like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and
 install it
  onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on
 it...I
  have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing
 something
  else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might
 make
  sense.
 
 If you're that desperate, I suggest just going to the bios and
 temporarily tagging drive C as uninstalled. That way it won't boot
 even if you can't get LILO to dual boot. Just install your 
 bootloader on
 drive D (hdb), and forget that drive C exists. I once did that in my
 dark Window$ days so I can get two different Window$ installations to
 live in peace and harmony. Now if you want Bill back, just go to the
 bios and do the reverse, tag D as uninstalled and C as installed.
 





Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread LaGuardia, Kristofer S.
Title: Help installing Debian 2.2r17





I tried searching the lists, but couldn't find anything. I want to dual boot 2.2r17 with Windows 2000. All of the tutorial I have seen show both residing on the same hard drive. Well, I would like them on separate hard drives. The hard drives are arranged as:

First Drive - 30GB - Windows 2000 Only(FAT32 full drive)
Second Drive - 13 GB - Linux Only (Two partitions with one as swap)
Third Drive - 10GB - FAT32 Full drive and to be used as a shared drive for both OSs


I'm pretty good at following instructions, and am quite a newbie at this sort of thin, but am getting pretty sick of all the MS bull and having to have this and that licensed. I've read documentation on dual-booting, but there are some steps that don't make any sense to me since they are either written for Mandrake, or they don't use the same version of Debian as I have. I have 2.2r17, and i get to partitioning my hard drive. I'm not new to computers, but am new to the terminology used in Linux. I understand that I need at least two partitions for Linux. So on my second drive I create a Linux swap type partition(512MB because I have 256MB of RAM), and then the rest of the drive is just a Linux partition. Quick question, if I want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition is for /usr? Is it a type? Anyhow...

I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so I select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem. I had set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot. is that correct? Or should Linux type be primary and the swap type to be logical? Then it asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right? So I choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux when I start the computer, and I say yes. is this all correct for a dual boot? Then I don't know what to do. There's also a question I have about the video card detection. It mentions it can scan the PCI...does this also mean it will check AGP(or is AGP also part of the PCI?)?

I need a tutorial on how to get Windows 2000(C:), to dual boot with Debian on a different physical drive(D:).


On a side note, anyone know of a Debian tutorial on setting up @HOME? Just a brief walkthrough would be nice...


Thanks to anyone who is willing to spend some time with a newbie who wants to learn this challenging OS, but needs a little guidance. Thanks!

Kris the Lost





Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread Hall Stevenson
 I tried searching the lists, but couldn't find anything.
 I want to dual boot 2.2r17 with Windows 2000.  All
 of the tutorial I have seen show both residing on the
 same hard drive.  Well, I would like them on separate
 hard drives. The hard drives are arranged as...

No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things
much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can
handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first'
(/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR.

I think many of the problems people see with dual-booting is
that they're installing Linux on the same drive as their
Windows setup.

Hall



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi,
Glad to hear about you using the Linux OS. and Debian is a great 
Dist. to use, a little more tricky than most others, (mandrake, etc)
but in the end, I think you may prefer it over others.

Quoting LaGuardia, Kristofer S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I tried searching the lists, but couldn't find anything.  I want to dual
 boot 2.2r17 with Windows 2000. 

Firstly, 2.217 isn't the latest kernel, check out potato r3, if you want
the stable release of debian, goto woody or sid if your into the
newest stuff.



 if I
 want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition
 is
 for /usr?  Is it a type?  Anyhow...

I think there are different ways of doing this, but for now,
you could just create a 3rd partition in the same way as your / partition.
Then specify a mount point during the install process.

for example:
you would make hda1 -- swap
   hda2 -- linux   mounted to /
   hda3 -- linux   mounted to /usr
 
 I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so
 I
 select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem.  I
 had
 set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot.  is that
 correct?

yes

 asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right?  So
 I
 choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux
 when
 I start the computer, and I say yes.  is this all correct for a dual
 boot?

This part can be tricky, becuase I don't know how Windows2000 handles its 
booting. Usually, I would install all my OS's first, and then install Debian 
last.
and use its boot manager to decice which OS I wanted.
After you install Linux, and then boot into it, you have to edit
the /etc/lilo.conf file to setup your other OS's.
Then run lilo from the command prompt to set the boot loader, and then your 
done.

Check out www.linuxdoc.org and goto the HOW to's, they have some good stuff 
in there.
Feel free to post more detailed questions here if you get stuck.

Hope this helps a bit:)
Cheers,
Mike



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread F Zimmermann
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:

 I tried searching the lists, but couldn't find anything.  I want to dual
 boot 2.2r17 with Windows 2000.  All of the tutorial I have seen show both
 residing on the same hard drive.  Well, I would like them on separate hard
 drives. The hard drives are arranged as:

 guess you can't find anything because 2.2r17 is far from being released,
if ever ;-)

Where is the problem? It makes no difference for Linux if its on another
partition on the same drive or on a different drive. Just make sure you
got the names right: the second IDE drive is hdb; the first partitio is
hdb1, the second is hdb2... ; logical ones start counting at 5!


 First Drive - 30GB - Windows 2000 Only(FAT32 full drive)
 Second Drive - 13 GB - Linux Only (Two partitions with one as swap)
 Third Drive - 10GB - FAT32 Full drive and to be used as a shared drive for
 both OSs


I am not sure about lilo in potato but i think the one thats in the distri
has no longer the problem with the 1024 cylinders.

 have this and that licensed.  I've read documentation on dual-booting, but
 there are some steps that don't make any sense to me since they are either
 written for Mandrake, or they don't use the same version of Debian as I
 have.  I have 2.2r17, and i get to partitioning my hard drive.  I'm not new

should make no big differnce, if at all!

 to computers, but am new to the terminology used in Linux.  I understand
 that I need at least two partitions for Linux.  So on my second drive I
 create a Linux swap type partition(512MB because I have 256MB of RAM), and
 then the rest of the drive is just a Linux partition.  Quick question, if I
 want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition is
 for /usr?  Is it a type?  Anyhow...

256 MB of swap seems far to much for me, but partitioning is a kind of art
and experience but should be all right for the beginnig.
If you create a partition for e.g. /usr you just tell the setup that you
want to mount /usr there. There is one point in the setup where you create
your partitions and then there is a step which says use existing
partitions (I am not sure about the right useage of sentences) thats what
you whant.



 I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so I
 select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem.  I had
 set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot.  is that correct?

No, if you have only 2 partitions the one shuld be swap and the other
should be / I don't think the setup would let yo ugoing on without
specifying the root partition.

 Or should Linux type be primary and the swap type to be logical?  Then it
 asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right?  So I
 choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux when
 I start the computer, and I say yes.  is this all correct for a dual boot?

I woul drecommed to install lilo in the mbr and let lilo boot Linux or W2k
otherwise you need a bootmanager that is able to boot lilo.

 Then I don't know what to do.  There's also a question I have about the
 video card detection.  It mentions it can scan the PCI...does this also mean
 it will check AGP(or is AGP also part of the PCI?)?

Don't know about that, but Debian was quite good in detecting my hardware,
so why not letting it go and see what it does. You can change everything
later if somethings wrong.


 I need a tutorial on how to get Windows 2000(C:), to dual boot with Debian
 on a different physical drive(D:).


See above.

 On a side note, anyone know of a Debian tutorial on setting up @HOME?  Just
 a brief walkthrough would be nice...


what is @HOME? Debain on a home PC? How about
http://www.uk.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst
??


 Thanks to anyone who is willing to spend some time with a newbie who wants
 to learn this challenging OS, but needs a little guidance.  Thanks!

 Kris the Lost

Don't give up, Debian is worth it.

Frank



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread Timeboy
On 2001.09.04 11:51 LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:

 Quick question, if I
 want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition is
 for /usr?  Is it a type?  Anyhow...

Hope i understand this question! What do you mean with specify a
partition? Ok. I think you like to know wheter there is a different
between a root and a /usr partition. The answer is no.

Only the swap partition is a special one. All others are ext2
partitions. This is the standart, like fat32 in windows. You can
have a lot of ext2 partitions on your Linux system. For best HD
performance you should have only the root ( / ) partition.

I don't know why it shold be good to have a seperate /usr partition
I only have some extra pertitions for software, that has nothing to
do with the Debian system like audio files and sources and other stuff, 
that i have to save on my HD for a little time. And i have a /home 
partition, cause i also here save a lot of own software like HTML 
sites for the web.

All this partitions you can initialize while installing Debian after
the part for partiton a HD. 
 
 I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so I
 select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem.  I had
 set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot.  is that correct?

No! If you like to have only one ext2 partition, you have to set this
to / partition. This is the highest level of the Linux directory tree.
On this partition you can mount the /boot partition if nessessary. But
on the /boot partitin you can't install the Debian system that needs
the / partition as highest place. Both partitions as primary is ok.
Linux makes no differents between primary and extended. You can use
both possibilities.

 Or should Linux type be primary and the swap type to be logical?

Do it how you like!!

 Then it
 asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right?  So I
 choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux when
 I start the computer, and I say yes.  is this all correct for a dual boot?

No!

First: For a dual boot you need to install LILO in the MBR of your first
hard disk. If you have your windows allready installed on your first HD,
you should change your disks if possible.

If your Windows goes to slave, you will have no big problems with 
installing LILO into MBR of your master hard disk cause it's a Linux
HD now.

If you then boot your Debian at first time, you will only have access
to your first hard disk. But this you can do, to be able to boot both
systems:

edit your /etc/lilo.conf. You can use the editor vi. Install vi if
not installed and type as root:

vi /etc/lilo.conf

To insert text into this file you need to type the i. Only after this
you can put new text into this lilo.conf file. If all is donne use
Escape to leave the insert modus. And with  :wq  you will write your
changes to hd and exit of vi.

This is my /etc/lilo.conf, written for Linux on first and Windows on
second drive:

lba32
boot=/dev/hda
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
# password=tatercounter2000
# message=/boot/bootmess.txt
prompt
timeout=100
vga=0x133 ---for biger letters in console you should set: vga=normal
default=Linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz
root=/dev/hda1
label=Linux
read-only

other=/dev/hdb1
table=/dev/hdb
label=win
map-drive=0x80   ---This and the following lines will change your
to=0x81  drive addresses for the BIOS, which can normally
map-drive=0x81   only boot from first drive.
to=0x80

After you have modified your /etc/lilo.conf you have to type on console:

lilo

This will write your new configured Lilo into MBR. That's all!!

 Then I don't know what to do.  There's also a question I have about the
 video card detection.  It mentions it can scan the PCI...does this also mean
 it will check AGP(or is AGP also part of the PCI?)?

Yes! I also have an AGP card but the kernel tells me thomething about
PCI. This is ok.

 I need a tutorial on how to get Windows 2000(C:), to dual boot with Debian
 on a different physical drive(D:).

Hope my suggestions will be enough. It's very easy to boot more systems
with Lilo and you don't need much knowledge about this. 

 On a side note, anyone know of a Debian tutorial on setting up @HOME?  Just
 a brief walkthrough would be nice...

I can suggest you the book Debian GNU Linux Guide. You should get it in
all good book shops. And you can ask us more.

If you have not yet installed the debian packages manpages and man-db:
do it. For the example Lilo:

man lilo

will give you some more informations about this boot loader. And there
are much more man pages for all kommands, tools and so on.

Timo



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread Timeboy

A little warning:


image=/boot/vmlinuz-!!
root=/dev/hda9
append=idebus=33 hdc=ide-scsi
label=Linux
read-only

My vmlinuz is on this place: /boot/vmlinuz. But i mean yours will be:
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17. You can let this part of lilo.conf on your
current settings. /vmlinuz should it be. Cause there is a link to
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 on /. Check this if lilo makes an error message.

Timo



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread Timeboy
On 2001.09.04 21:56 Timeboy wrote:
 
 A little warning:
 
 
 image=/boot/vmlinuz-!!
   root=/dev/hda9
   append=idebus=33 hdc=ide-scsi
   label=Linux
   read-only
 
 My vmlinuz is on this place: /boot/vmlinuz. But i mean yours will be:
 /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17. You can let this part of lilo.conf on your
 current settings. /vmlinuz should it be. Cause there is a link to
 /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 on /. Check this if lilo makes an error message.
 
 Timo
 



Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17

2001-09-04 Thread Timeboy
On 2001.09.04 21:39 Timeboy wrote:
 On 2001.09.04 11:51 LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote:
 
  Quick question, if I
  want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition is
  for /usr?  Is it a type?  Anyhow...
 
 Hope i understand this question! What do you mean with specify a
 partition? Ok. I think you like to know wheter there is a different
 between a root and a /usr partition. The answer is no.
 
 Only the swap partition is a special one. All others are ext2
 partitions. This is the standart, like fat32 in windows. You can
 have a lot of ext2 partitions on your Linux system. For best HD
 performance you should have only the root ( / ) partition.
 
 I don't know why it shold be good to have a seperate /usr partition
 I only have some extra pertitions for software, that has nothing to
 do with the Debian system like audio files and sources and other stuff, 
 that i have to save on my HD for a little time. And i have a /home 
 partition, cause i also here save a lot of own software like HTML 
 sites for the web.
 
 All this partitions you can initialize while installing Debian after
 the part for partiton a HD. 
  
  I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so I
  select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem.  I had
  set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot.  is that correct?
 
 No! If you like to have only one ext2 partition, you have to set this
 to / partition. This is the highest level of the Linux directory tree.
 On this partition you can mount the /boot partition if nessessary. But
 on the /boot partitin you can't install the Debian system that needs
 the / partition as highest place. Both partitions as primary is ok.
 Linux makes no differents between primary and extended. You can use
 both possibilities.
 
  Or should Linux type be primary and the swap type to be logical?
 
 Do it how you like!!
 
  Then it
  asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right?  So I
  choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux when
  I start the computer, and I say yes.  is this all correct for a dual boot?
 
 No!
 
 First: For a dual boot you need to install LILO in the MBR of your first
 hard disk. If you have your windows allready installed on your first HD,
 you should change your disks if possible.
 
 If your Windows goes to slave, you will have no big problems with 
 installing LILO into MBR of your master hard disk cause it's a Linux
 HD now.
 
 If you then boot your Debian at first time, you will only have access
 to your first hard disk. But this you can do, to be able to boot both
 systems:
 
 edit your /etc/lilo.conf. You can use the editor vi. Install vi if
 not installed and type as root:
 
 vi /etc/lilo.conf
 
 To insert text into this file you need to type the i. Only after this
 you can put new text into this lilo.conf file. If all is donne use
 Escape to leave the insert modus. And with  :wq  you will write your
 changes to hd and exit of vi.
 
 This is my /etc/lilo.conf, written for Linux on first and Windows on
 second drive:
 
 lba32
 boot=/dev/hda
 install=/boot/boot.b
 map=/boot/map
 # password=tatercounter2000
 # message=/boot/bootmess.txt
 prompt
 timeout=100
 vga=0x133 ---for biger letters in console you should set: vga=normal
 default=Linux
 
 image=/boot/vmlinuz
   root=/dev/hda1
   label=Linux
   read-only
 
 other=/dev/hdb1
   table=/dev/hdb
   label=win
   map-drive=0x80   ---This and the following lines will change your
   to=0x81  drive addresses for the BIOS, which can normally
   map-drive=0x81   only boot from first drive.
   to=0x80
 
 After you have modified your /etc/lilo.conf you have to type on console:
 
 lilo
 
 This will write your new configured Lilo into MBR. That's all!!
 
  Then I don't know what to do.  There's also a question I have about the
  video card detection.  It mentions it can scan the PCI...does this also mean
  it will check AGP(or is AGP also part of the PCI?)?
 
 Yes! I also have an AGP card but the kernel tells me thomething about
 PCI. This is ok.
 
  I need a tutorial on how to get Windows 2000(C:), to dual boot with Debian
  on a different physical drive(D:).
 
 Hope my suggestions will be enough. It's very easy to boot more systems
 with Lilo and you don't need much knowledge about this. 
 
  On a side note, anyone know of a Debian tutorial on setting up @HOME?  Just
  a brief walkthrough would be nice...
 
 I can suggest you the book Debian GNU Linux Guide. You should get it in
 all good book shops. And you can ask us more.
 
 If you have not yet installed the debian packages manpages and man-db:
 do it. For the example Lilo:
 
 man lilo
 
 will give you some more informations about this boot loader. And there
 are much more man pages for all kommands, tools and so on.
 
 Timo
 



Help installing Debian-LINUX

2001-05-24 Thread Smruti Jena

Hello
I am a new user of LINUX,  want to install Debian-LINUX in my system. I 
already have windows-98 in my system. I have a 20GB hard disk partitioned 
into 4 Drives. I want to install LINUX in one of my pre-exixting 
partitions(e,g : D/). How can I do it? Can I install it in D:\ without 
disturbing the windows-98 which is in c: drive? Do I have to repartition the 
hard disk while installing Debian-LINUX? If I succeed in installing how can 
I swith between operating systems?

Please help me in these matters.
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Re: Help installing Debian-LINUX

2001-05-24 Thread ktb
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 10:07:18AM +0530, Smruti Jena wrote:
 Hello
 I am a new user of LINUX,  want to install Debian-LINUX in my system. I 
 already have windows-98 in my system. I have a 20GB hard disk partitioned 
 into 4 Drives. I want to install LINUX in one of my pre-exixting 
 partitions(e,g : D/). How can I do it? Can I install it in D:\ without 
 disturbing the windows-98 which is in c: drive? Do I have to repartition the 
 hard disk while installing Debian-LINUX? If I succeed in installing how can 
 I swith between operating systems?

You should take the time to read the installation instructions at -
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst

Yes you can install debian on the disk in question without disturbing
Windows.  I'm assuming you are installing from a bootable cd disk.  Slap
the cd in and boot.  Make sure the bios is set to boot off the cdrom.
You will be asked to partion the disk.  At that point you should create
your debian partitions on what would be the D: partition looking from
your windows side.  After you have installed debian you can dual boot
with Lilo or Grub.  Keep in mind that if you make the wrong move during
the partitioning/creating filesytem stage you could hose your Windows
side -- so make a backup.  
hth,
kent


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Re: Help installing Debian-LINUX

2001-05-24 Thread Paul Wright
On Thu, 24 May 2001 10:07:18, Smruti wrote:


 Hello
 I am a new user of LINUX,  want to install Debian-LINUX in my system. I 
 already have windows-98 in my system. I have a 20GB hard disk partitioned 
 into 4 Drives. I want to install LINUX in one of my pre-exixting 
 partitions(e,g : D/). How can I do it? Can I install it in D:\ without 
 disturbing the windows-98 which is in c: drive? Do I have to repartition the 
 hard disk while installing Debian-LINUX? If I succeed in installing how can 
 I swith between operating systems?
 Please help me in these matters.
 

For a good reference on how to set up your machine for dual-boot, see the 
document at:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Linux+Windows-HOWTO/

It is quite detailed, will explain all the necessary steps for the 
install.



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Re: HELP!!! Installing Debian

2001-05-21 Thread Tony Crawford
Jan Enning wrote (on 20 May 2001, at 21:17):

  I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and
  DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian.  I typed INSTALL  and
  the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the
  the following message:
  
  Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00
  
  What have I missed?  Please help!

Similar experience yesterday trying to repair the installation 
on my Toshiba. (I needed to neutralize /etc/init.d/pcmcia in 
order to boot after stupidly apt-get-upgrading to a wrong 
package.) Anyway, I recently upgraded my iso images from 2.2 r0 
to r3, and now the gear in the install directory on CD 1 only 
got me as far as the same message you noted. Fortunately I still 
had the 2.2 r0 CDs with me, and they worked!

Has something been broken? Is anyone interested in more detail?

T.

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Re: HELP!!! Installing Debian

2001-05-20 Thread Jan Enning
Well I've got a 'solution' :-) The reason I didn't use any floppy is simple
because they are most of the time broken, old, etc...not very reliable.
But if you don't have any bandwidth, stick with the floppy :-)

I downloaded the complete Debian ISO and burned it on a CD, then bought a
crappy ATA 50X cd-rom drive for $30. The reason that I did this was that the
ATA drives are really plug and play AND bootable! I think on every pentium u
can boot with this kind of drive. Now I only plugged it to my OLD P133 and
ready to go!
No boot floppy's, corrupted files, missing sectors etc...
Before I used 'windoos 98' bootfloppy's to get CD-rom support and then
booted Debian from DOS. With the Crappy ATA drive  you're the king :)

I hope it helped u a bit :)
Good luck!
kleinejan

 Hello guys!

 I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and
 DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian.  I typed INSTALL  and
 the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the
 the following message:
 
 Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00
 
 What have I missed?  Please help!
 
 Thanks and more power.
 
 Arnold
 
 
 



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HELP!!! Installing Debian

2001-05-16 Thread Arnold Canete
Hello guys!

I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and
DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian.  I typed INSTALL  and
the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the
the following message:

Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00

What have I missed?  Please help!

Thanks and more power.

Arnold





Re: HELP!!! Installing Debian

2001-05-16 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:18:30PM -0700, Arnold Canete wrote:
 Hello guys!
 
 I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and
 DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian.  I typed INSTALL  and
 the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the
 the following message:
 
 Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00
 
 What have I missed?  Please help!

I take it that you don't have a bootable CD-ROM? If so just boot off the
CD. If you've downloaded the disk images, boot off the floppies. Looking above
you haven't said whether or not you did either. 

Mike

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Re: Help installing debian first time

2001-02-13 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 06:18:53PM +0100, Tobias Hahn wrote:
 Hi! 
 
 I purchased a new computer and I would like to install debian on it. If
 possible, I would like to install kernel 2.4. Is this possible from the
 beginning of the installation? If not so, is there a way to build custom
 boot cds/floppies containing at least reiserfs?

I don't know how stable the woody boot-floppies are. Maybe it would be
the safest way, that you install a normal potato system and them
upgrade your kernel. There have been some notes how to use 2.4 in
potato on this list. 

Do you really need reiserfs in the boot-floppies? You could make /boot
ext2 and the rest could be reiserfs.

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Help installing debian first time

2001-02-12 Thread Tobias Hahn
Hi! 

I purchased a new computer and I would like to install debian on it. If
possible, I would like to install kernel 2.4. Is this possible from the
beginning of the installation? If not so, is there a way to build custom
boot cds/floppies containing at least reiserfs?

I am new to Debian but not to Linux, so don't be afraid to get
technical.

Thanx!

Tobias



Help installing Debian

2000-12-28 Thread Glenn Murray
Hi,

I am trying to install Debian on two workstations.  They
have Promise Ultra66 cards to which the hard drive is
attached.  The install kernel does not support these
cards, but the (CheapBytes) installation CD has in
dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/udma66
a readme which says that this (udma66) directory has a
kernel image which contains support for the very Promise
Ultra66 cards I'm trying to support.  Moreover, there
is a ../udma66 directory with a drivers.tgz file.

How do I do I get this working?

I have unplugged the hard drive cable from the Promise card
and plugged it into the primary IDE slot on the motherboard;
this enables me to install, however, now Win2K will not
boot, so I need to get the card support working somehow.
Is there some way I can build in the Ultra66 support
while running Linux through the motherboard, turn it
off, and reposition the cable, and be happy?

Please help,
Thanks,
Glenn







RE: [lug] *440MHz, 512MB UltraSPARC 10 with FLAT 21 Color Monitor* Help installing Debian

2000-12-28 Thread Ulises V. Martinez
Hi,

If anyone needs a very powerful workstation to run Linux, I have several
440MHz, 512MB UltraSPARC 10 with FLAT 21 Color Monitor 19.8 v.a which will
be sold almost at cost.  If interested, if interested please goto to
http://www.novustar.com/sunultra/index.htm.  IF you'll like to get one,
please reply before January 1,2001 to take advantage of the existing price.
Thanks.


Glenn, I will get back to you within the next weeks, the guru who knows
about Debian is on vacation.

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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 12:47 PM
To: Boulder Linux User's Group; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: [lug] Help installing Debian


Hi,

I am trying to install Debian on two workstations.  They
have Promise Ultra66 cards to which the hard drive is
attached.  The install kernel does not support these
cards, but the (CheapBytes) installation CD has in
dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44/udma66
a readme which says that this (udma66) directory has a
kernel image which contains support for the very Promise
Ultra66 cards I'm trying to support.  Moreover, there
is a ../udma66 directory with a drivers.tgz file.

How do I do I get this working?

I have unplugged the hard drive cable from the Promise card
and plugged it into the primary IDE slot on the motherboard;
this enables me to install, however, now Win2K will not
boot, so I need to get the card support working somehow.
Is there some way I can build in the Ultra66 support
while running Linux through the motherboard, turn it
off, and reposition the cable, and be happy?

Please help,
Thanks,
Glenn






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I need help Installing Debian 2.0 (Intel) for first time

1998-11-29 Thread Chris Chapman

Hi;
(My System:QDI 430TX motherboard,CyriX 200MMX CPU and 96MG Edo Ram)
 
I am new to Linux  Debian, Also I am not a programmer. I have
tried to install Debian 2.0 (Intel)from CD. I have Win98 on my 4.3GB
hard drive so I cleared 2.4G and managed to create a 200Mg root
partition dev/hda3, a 96MG ((is this much necessary? )swap partition
dev/hda7 an a 2.1+GB linux partition dev/hda8 and have reached the
Configure Device Drivers step; but I am unsure what settings to use.
Here is a list of the additional hardware I have: 

HP 7100i CD Writer ( uses Direct CD for writing data and Easy Cd for
writing audio )

Philips DRD 5200 DVD ROM
Matrox Millennium II ( 4MG )
Real Magic Hollywood 2 Mpeg2 Card
US Robotic Sportster 56.6K Fax\Voice Modem
Flyvideo II ( TV Tuner Card )
Standard serial mouse

Can you please let me know what I must do to get them to run in
Linux?. Also at one attempted to install I left Configure Device
Drivers blank, then when I reached the list of access methods in
Dselect, when I chose cdrom it requested the Block I do not know
what this is. I read the Dselect documentation for beginners but it
has no mention of this. It does talk about mounting your CD could you
explain what mounting is and how I can mount the CD drives mentioned
above.

   Finally can you recommend the best learning materials for learning
how to use and get the most out of Linux ( remembering I am a beginner )

Thanks

Chris   






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Re: I need help Installing Debian 2.0 (Intel) for first time

1998-11-29 Thread Andrew Ivanov
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Help installing Debian on UMSDOS file system?

1998-08-25 Thread Steve Byrne
I'm trying to install Debian on my wife's laptop that's currently
running Windows 95.  She's afraid that if I repartition it to make space
for Linux, that she won't be able to reinstall all the Win95 software
that's on the disk (it's a Compaq, and they don't ship Win95 installation
CDs with their boxes).

So, I'm trying to make a UMSDOS partition and set up Debian using that.
The Debian installation system doesn't seem to support UMSDOS based 
installation directly, although I've managed to put a UMSDOS-aware kernel
on the rescue disk and get it to boot.  I  untarred the base_2.0.tgz file
into a top level target directory that I'vecalled linux, as that's
what loadlin and the UMSDOS-aware kernels seem to want for their root file
systems.

The Debian installation system wants to mount a partition itself; I tried
mounting my UMSDOS partition by hand, but Debian didn't like it (though 
I don't know the magic to get /dev/hda1/linux mounted directly as a 
UMSDOS partition; so this may be why Debian doesn't see it).  Debian said
your system is unconfigured and maybe 
you need to install your rescue disk into the floppy drive and reboot.

I've been using Debian since late '93, and have it installed on all my
other computers, but this one has me stumped.

Hopefully, someone can tell me:

a) what the Debian does when configuring the base system so that I can 
   do that by hand?
b) how and where to mount the /linux directory UMSDOS partition so that
   the Debian installation system recognizes it as a valid Debian system
   that I can then complete the configuration on?
c) is there some other way to install onto a UMSDOS paritition?
d) there used to be dpkg.tar that you could use to bootstrap the installation
   process with; I can't find it anymore...is it still in existence?

I tried installing the IronWing distribution which does run out of the
box in a UMSDOS partition and then upgrading it to Debian, but I got 
stuck when trying to install the Debian glibc (IronWing is Slackware 
based, and is somewhat behind the times in the versions of software that
are available for it; also, its /etc files use the different rc.d setup 
(no init.d), so installing .deb packages tends to lose
when they try to set up their rc files).

I appreciate any help that you can provide.

Thanks!

Steve






HELP: Installing Debian in a Bussines

1997-12-04 Thread ranty
My father wants to make some changes in his Bussines and I am
trying to get Debian/Linux into those changes.

I will explain myself:
He is going to change his system:

Computer: FUJITSU TITAN2600 (with 24 terminals)
O.S.: PICK O.A. v5.2
With: Terminal based menues for entering, changing, checking data on each
terminal.

With a network (Debian if I can help it)

The idea is that if I can give him a Debian/Linux based system which
fits his needs he installs it, also he wants tu use ( at least for a while) his
old programs so something like a PICK O.A. interpreter should be perfect and
also needs to port the data to the new system.

What I think he needs:

-A PICK interpreter or so.
-Something to convert the old data.
-Some program to later on replace that ¿PICK interpreter?
-Probably some way to keep both systems in parallel.

Thanks in advence:
Ranty
PS: I may be asking for too much, but I have faith in Linux and I had to try.

PS2:I am opened to any sugestion, Idea...



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Re: HELP: Installing Debian in a Bussines

1997-12-04 Thread Stephen Zander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I think he needs:
 
  A PICK interpreter or so.
  Something to convert the old data.
  Some program to later on replace that PICK interpreter?
  Probably some way to keep both systems in parallel.

That sounds like a pretty complete list.  However, it's likely to be a
significant effort! (Gawd, PICK. Makes me feel old  I just turned 30).

You biggest challange is likely to be finding a PICK interpreter.  IIRC,
there used to be a dual universe system running PICK over SCO or something
similar, but I've no idea where you'd try to find such a beast.  I'd suggest
you try Fujitsu first... they'll probably want to sell you something but you
might get some useful information.

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Re: HELP: Installing Debian in a Bussines

1997-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   My father wants to make some changes in his Bussines and I am
  trying to get Debian/Linux into those changes.
  
   I will explain myself:
  He is going to change his system:
  
  Computer: FUJITSU TITAN2600 (with 24 terminals)
  O.S.: PICK O.A. v5.2
  With: Terminal based menues for entering, changing, checking data on each
  terminal.
  
  With a network (Debian if I can help it)
  
   The idea is that if I can give him a Debian/Linux based system which
  fits his needs he installs it, also he wants tu use ( at least for a while) 
  his
  old programs so something like a PICK O.A. interpreter should be perfect and
  also needs to port the data to the new system.
  
  What I think he needs:
  
   -A PICK interpreter or so.

I don't know of any freeware PICK product.  PICK Systems make a Linux
version of their software; you can also run JBase.  You can run a
SCO version of UniVerse if you use the iBCS kernel module to run
COFF executables.

   -Something to convert the old data.

Write a DataBasic program to dump data out to tape in a set format.  Read
it in again on the new machine.  (If the OA system is co-existing with Unix
you could perhaps make a network connection.


   -Some program to later on replace that ¿PICK interpreter?

The PICK data model is unique.  If you use an SQL database like PostgreSQL,
you will need to rework the design of the database; multi-valued fields
will have to be normalised.  It's a big job.

   -Probably some way to keep both systems in parallel.

You will need to define input and dump routines for both systems (unless
the traffic is one-way only).  Do the update via tape.

[for tape read floppy if appropriate]
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HELP INSTALLING DEBIAN!!

1997-10-19 Thread rrodrigu
Hello everybody!
This one's for all of you linux pros out there...

I just downloaded all of the debian installation disks, and tried to install
them on an IBM PS/2. However, it does not work Linux will not detect my
hard drive.

I think that it said somewhere that there was no support for the
micro-channel bus that the PS/2 PCs use. Is there any fix for this?? I
would really, really love to have Linux on my machine!! Is there any
special rescue disk that you have that will have the support for my hard
drive?? Please let me know. I would really, really appreciate it. I am
extremely new at this (meaning: first time install), so I don't know
what to do.

Thanks so much for your help!

Roman Rodriguez


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Help installing Debian on a Thinkpad

1997-01-09 Thread Paul Rightley

I am trying to install Debian (1.2) on my Thinkpad 365XD.  I cannot get the
rescue disk to boot (I have tries both the 12/8/96 and the 1/4/97 disk sets). 
The symptoms are as follows.  I put the floppy in the (external) drive and
power-up the machine (same thing happens on warm reboots).  I get through the
'boot:' prompt screens by either typing nothing or 'linux floppy=thinkpad'.  In
either case, I get 'Loading root.bin' and then 'Loading Linux.'
and then nothing happens.

I had this trouble before Christmas (and have not solved it since then) and I
was forced to try installing Slackware 3.0.  For Slackware, the installation
works just fine and I could even get a poor looking X going.  Now however, if I
try to latex anything, I get a kernel OOPS and a segmentation fault.  TeX seems
to work, but both TeX and LaTeX are symlinks to virtex.

I would really appreciate any assistance on this problem.

Thank you,

Paul Rightley


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Re: Help installing debian Other packages

1996-11-18 Thread Wayne Richardson
Hi all,

I have found out that I am having a problem downloading the file from the
ftp site (sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/buzz/msdos-i386),
but I don't know how to fix it.  If I click on the file (using Netscape
Navigator), I get the binary garbage written out to my screen.  If I right
click on the file icon, and use the Save Link As.. option, I can save it to
my hard disk.  The problem is that it is not saving this in a binary format.  I
can go to the Netscape options (Options | General Preferences... |
helpers) and add in the deb extention to the application/x-compress
entry but this still doesn't work.  I went through compuserve and
retrieved the same file using their ftp menu and then compared them
(saved the same file with a different name) doing a DOS command fc
win95tmp.deb cmpsvtmp.deb /b and they are way different.  I can copy
them both to diskette and the one that I downloaded from compuserve
will work but the other one won't.

What is wrong here?

Regards,
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Re: Help installing debian Other packages

1996-11-17 Thread Paul Christenson
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Wayne Richardson wrote:

 I can download these packages from the internet from my windows '95
 machine and then transfer them to the Linux system using a diskette. 

 When I try to run dpkg on these files I get errors. 

Are you *certain* that you are transferring them in BINARY mode?

Do you have your floppy drive mounted so that it does automatic *nix-DOS
conversion?  (It shouldn't.)

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Help installing debian Other packages

1996-11-15 Thread Wayne Richardson
Hi all,

I have installed the Debian linux system on my system but am now having
problems installing other packages.  I can download these packages
from the internet from my windows '95 machine and then transfer them
to the Linux system using a diskette.   When I try to run dpkg on
these files I get errors.  For example, I have transferred the
gzip-1_2_4-10.deb file to the Debian Linux system and now want to
install it.  
I can issue the following command line:
dpkg --install gzip-1_2_4-10.deb

I then get the following error:
dpkg-deb: 'gzip-1_2_4-10.deb' is not a debian format archive
dpkg: error processing dpkg_1_2_11elf.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gzip-1_2_4-10.deb


I am pretty sure that it is a valid binary file because I have
downloaded other binary files the same way and have had no problems
with them.
I have also tried installing a number of other debian packages and get
the same error.  Is there anything special that I need to do with these
debian packages before I try to install them?

What am I doing wrong?

TIA,

P.S. I am pretty new to this UNIX game (coming from wintel
programming), so I would appreciate it if you could detail your
explanations.

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