subject:"RE\: help\!\!\!\!\!\!"

Re: Help upgrade to JDK-21

2024-09-06 Thread Dan Ritter

Arbol One wrote: 
> I'd like to upgrade from JDK-17 to JDK-21.
> Since I am new to, well, Linux in general, I'd like to know from anyone
> who'd done this upgrade if this would be OK under Debian 12 (No
> free-firmwarepackages please).
> Any advice would be much appreciated.

Debian stable (12) does not have openjdk 21; you will need to
get it from another source.

https://openjdk.org/install/

If you install it in /opt, and reference it specifically
whenever you want a program to use it, that should not cause
problems.

-dsr-

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Demetrius Stanton

Hello everyone,

Thank you so much for your assistance on this matter. The solution was
found.

Updating the sources list to include:
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main
non-free-firmware
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main
non-free-firmware

# bookworm-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main
non-free-firmware

seems to have fixed my issue.

I believe this is entirely a problem of my own causing. My initial plan for
this system was to keep it offline. I later decided to take it online. I
updated the sources list with a single source, thinking that one would be
necessary to get connected, and it worked... for a while.

Thanks again for all the help!

Demetrius Stanton


On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 5:59 PM Tom Dial  wrote:

> Hi Demetrius.
>
> See the embedded observations below.
>
>
>
> On 7/15/24 05:42, Demetrius Stanton wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > My name is Demetrius Stanton. It was suggested that I reach out for a
> problem I'm experiencing trying to install gdb on my system. I'm willing to
> submit whatever information is necessary to try and get this issue resolved.
> >
> > I recently encountered a weird error, and I can't seem to find a fix
> online. When I run the command ` sudo apt update && sudo apt install gdb -y
> `, I receive an 404 error stating failed to fetch
> https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dbg_2.36-9%2bdeb12u
> *4*_amd64.deb.
> When I navigate to the https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/ <
> https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/> site, I'm able to find
> libc6-dbg_2.36-9+deb12u*7*_amd64.deb. Though I'm reasonably confident I
> could use wget to download and then dpkg to install this file, I am
> concerned I could adversely affect the stability of my system. I'm sure it
> would be safer for me to use apt to manage my packages.
> >
> > How do I proceed forward from here?
> >
> > I posed this question to  debian-rele...@lists.debian.org>> and received the following in response:
> >
> > "
> > Welcome to Debian.
> >
> > You might be able to resolve this issue you have by running
> >
> > sudo apt update
> >
> > followed by
> >
> > sudo apt full-upgrade
> >
> > and resolve resulting errors, if any occur, and then try reinstalling
> gdb. The particular error - attempting to fetch and install what looks like
> an out of date version of libc6-dbg_2.36-9 - suggests your system might not
> be fully up to date. If that helps, good; otherwise:
> >
> > You would do better to ask this question on the debian-user list (
> debian-user@lists.debian.org ). It
> is a fairly active list that includes people with a wide range of knowledge
> and who generally are willing to help.
> >
> > You should provide additional information (and will be asked to do so if
> you do not), since what you give above is a bit sketchy. In particular, I
> suggest you include in the question a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list
> and any files that are in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d. It might
> also be useful to include a copy of your /etc/debian_version and
> /etc/os-release files, which will establish the exact update level of your
> system.
> >
> > In general, it is probably a bad idea to poke around in /debian/pool/ in
> the distribution repository for things to install. Those directories
> contain software for several releases and mixing versions from different
> releases may, as you suspect, result in an unstable system. Using apt is
> much safer, but depends on correct setup of the files in the /etc/apt/
> directory that describe the range of software installed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > 
> > "
> > Attempting the prescribed fix yielded the following:
> >
> > $ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
> > [sudo] password for demetrius:
> > Hit:1 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb <
> https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb> stable InRelease
> > Hit:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian 
> bookworm InRelease
> > Hit:3 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code <
> https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code> stable InRelease
> > Hit:4 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com <
> https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com> stable InRelease
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree... Done
> > Reading state information... Done
> > All packages are up to date.
> > N: Repository 'Debian bookworm' changed its 'firmware component' value
> from 'non-free' to 'non-free-firmware'
>

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Tom Dial

Hi Demetrius.

See the embedded observations below.

On 7/15/24 05:42, Demetrius Stanton wrote:

Hi!

My name is Demetrius Stanton. It was suggested that I reach out for a problem
I'm experiencing trying to install gdb on my system. I'm willing to submit
whatever information is necessary to try and get this issue resolved.

I recently encountered a weird error, and I can't seem to find a fix online. When I run the command
` sudo apt update && sudo apt install gdb -y `, I receive an 404 error stating failed to
fetch https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dbg_2.36-9%2bdeb12u
*4*_amd64.deb.
When I navigate to the https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/
site, I'm able to find
libc6-dbg_2.36-9+deb12u*7*_amd64.deb. Though I'm reasonably confident I could use wget to download
and then dpkg to install this file, I am concerned I could adversely affect the stability of my
system. I'm sure it would be safer for me to use apt to manage my packages.

How do I proceed forward from here?

I posed this question to mailto:debian-rele...@lists.debian.org>> and received the following in response:

"
Welcome to Debian.

You might be able to resolve this issue you have by running

sudo apt update

followed by

sudo apt full-upgrade

and resolve resulting errors, if any occur, and then try reinstalling gdb. The
particular error - attempting to fetch and install what looks like an out of
date version of libc6-dbg_2.36-9 - suggests your system might not be fully up
to date. If that helps, good; otherwise:

You would do better to ask this question on the debian-user list
(debian-user@lists.debian.org ). It is a
fairly active list that includes people with a wide range of knowledge and who
generally are willing to help.

You should provide additional information (and will be asked to do so if you do
not), since what you give above is a bit sketchy. In particular, I suggest you
include in the question a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list and any files that
are in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d. It might also be useful to
include a copy of your /etc/debian_version and /etc/os-release files, which
will establish the exact update level of your system.

In general, it is probably a bad idea to poke around in /debian/pool/ in the
distribution repository for things to install. Those directories contain
software for several releases and mixing versions from different releases may,
as you suspect, result in an unstable system. Using apt is much safer, but
depends on correct setup of the files in the /etc/apt/ directory that describe
the range of software installed.

Regards,

"
Attempting the prescribed fix yielded the following:

$ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[sudo] password for demetrius:
Hit:1 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb
stable InRelease
Hit:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm
InRelease
Hit:3 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code
stable InRelease
Hit:4 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com
stable InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
N: Repository 'Debian bookworm' changed its 'firmware component' value from
'non-free' to 'non-free-firmware'
N: More information about this can be found online in the Release notes at:
https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.html#non-free-split

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
$ sudo apt install gdb -y
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
libbabeltrace1 libboost-regex1.74.0 libc6-dbg libdebuginfod-common
libdebuginfod1 libipt2 libsource-highlight-common
libsource-highlight4v5
Suggested packages:
gdb-doc gdbserver
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gdb libbabeltrace1 libboost-regex1.74.0 libc6-dbg libdebuginfod-common
libdebuginfod1 libipt2 libsource-highlight-common
libsource-highlight4v5
0 upgraded, 9 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 7,458 kB/12.5 MB of archives.
After this operation, 28.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Err:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian
bookworm/main amd64 libc6-dbg amd64 2.36-9+deb12u4

This version of libc6-dbg, 2.36-9+deb12u4, is not the current one, and

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Lee

On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:07 AM Demetrius Stanton wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> My name is Demetrius Stanton. It was suggested that I reach out for a problem 
> I'm experiencing trying to install gdb on my system. I'm willing to submit 
> whatever information is necessary to try and get this issue resolved.
>
> I recently encountered a weird error, and I can't seem to find a fix online. 
> When I run the command ` sudo apt update && sudo apt install gdb -y `, I 
> receive an 404 error stating failed to fetch 
> https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dbg_2.36-9%2bdeb12u4_amd64.deb.
>  When I navigate to the  https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/ 
> site, I'm able to find  libc6-dbg_2.36-9+deb12u7_amd64.deb. Though I'm 
> reasonably confident I could use wget to download and then dpkg to install 
> this file, I am concerned I could adversely affect the stability of my 
> system. I'm sure it would be safer for me to use apt to manage my packages.
>
> How do I proceed forward from here?
>
> I posed this question to  and received the 
> following in response:
>
> "
> Welcome to Debian.
>
> You might be able to resolve this issue you have by running
>
>sudo apt update
>
> followed by
>
>sudo apt full-upgrade
>
> and resolve resulting errors, if any occur, and then try reinstalling gdb. 
> The particular error - attempting to fetch and install what looks like an out 
> of date version of libc6-dbg_2.36-9 - suggests your system might not be fully 
> up to date. If that helps, good; otherwise:

  <.. snip ..>
> Attempting the prescribed fix yielded the following:
>
> $ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
> [sudo] password for demetrius:
> Hit:1 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
> Hit:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
> Hit:3 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable InRelease
> Hit:4 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease

You're missing bookworm-security and bookworm-updates from your
sources list.  Try it again with them in your /etc/apt/sources.list

lee@laptop:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.5.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64
NETINST with firmware 20240210-11:27]/ bookworm contrib main
non-free-firmware

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free-firmware

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main
non-free-firmware
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security
main non-free-firmware

# bookworm-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see 
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware

Regards,
Lee

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread Pranjal Singh


Hi Demetrius,

On 15/07/24 17:12, Demetrius Stanton wrote:

[...]
I recently encountered a weird error, and I can't seem to find a fix 
online. When I run the command ` sudo apt update && sudo apt install 
gdb -y `, I receive an 404 error stating failed to fetch 
https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dbg_2.36-9%2bdeb12u*4*_amd64.deb. 
When I navigate to the 
https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/ site, I'm able to 
find  libc6-dbg_2.36-9+deb12u*7*_amd64.deb. Though I'm reasonably 
confident I could use wget to download and then dpkg to install this 
file, I am concerned I could adversely affect the stability of my 
system. I'm sure it would be safer for me to use apt to manage my 
packages.



A quick fix might be to use a different Debian mirror:

https://www.debian.org/mirror/list

This is a bad solution, however, even if it works.
I am curious what it is and am looking forward to the big people
to diagnose and solve it.

Regards,
Pranjal

Re: Help installing gdb package using apt

2024-07-15 Thread The Wanderer

On 2024-07-15 at 07:42, Demetrius Stanton wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> My name is Demetrius Stanton. It was suggested that I reach out for a
> problem I'm experiencing trying to install gdb on my system. I'm willing to
> submit whatever information is necessary to try and get this issue
> resolved.
> 
> I recently encountered a weird error, and I can't seem to find a fix
> online. When I run the command ` sudo apt update && sudo apt install gdb -y
> `, I receive an 404 error stating failed to fetch
> https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dbg_2.36-9%2bdeb12u*4*_amd64.deb.

> How do I proceed forward from here?
> 
> I posed this question to  and received the
> following in response:



> The particular error - attempting to fetch and install what looks like an
> out of date version of libc6-dbg_2.36-9 - suggests your system might not be
> fully up to date.



> You should provide additional information (and will be asked to do so if
> you do not), since what you give above is a bit sketchy. In particular, I
> suggest you include in the question a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list
> and any files that are in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d.



> Attempting the prescribed fix yielded the following:
> 
> $ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
> [sudo] password for demetrius:
> Hit:1 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
> Hit:2 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease
> Hit:3 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable InRelease
> Hit:4 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease



> Err:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 libc6-dbg amd64
> 2.36-9+deb12u4
>   404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:d::644 443]
> E: Failed to fetch
> https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dbg_2.36-9%2bdeb12u4_amd64.deb
>  404  Not Found [IP: 2a04:4e42:d::644 443]
> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with
> --fix-missing?
> 
> So now I'm reaching out.
> Here's the info that was recommended I add:
> 
> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 with firmware 20231007-10:29]/ bookworm main non-free-firmware
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib
> $ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
> brave-browser-release.list  google-chrome.list  vscode.list
> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
> deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg]
> https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
> ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ###
> # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
> deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list
> ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ###
> # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
> deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code
> stable main

This sources.list file is missing entries for the portions of the
archive that contain the debug-symbols packages.

For comparison, here is a trio of successive lines from my own
sources.list:

>> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free non-free-firmware 
>> contrib
>> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free 
>> non-free-firmware contrib
>> deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ testing-debug main 
>> non-free non-free-firmware contrib

These specify where APT should look for A: the binary packages, B: the
source packages, and D: the debug-symbols packages, for Debian testing.

(I configure sources list with the names 'stable', 'testing', and 'sid',
rather than using the release codenames; I do this on purpose, but it is
typically recommended to use the release codenames, and you are probably
correct for your situation that you use them.)


Try adding

deb https://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ bookworm-debug main
contrib

(and/or similar for any other official Debian repositories you want to
get debug packages from), and repeating the suggested 'apt update'
command, then installing the desired package(s) again.

I don't think a full-upgrade will be necessary in your circumstances,
although it would *probably* not hurt. If the install attempt still
fails, you can try 'apt full-upgrade' and see whether it produces
something reasonable.

> If there's anything you can suggest to help, it would be greatly
> appreciated!

I hope that is enough to lead you somewhere useful!

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-02 Thread Richmond

"Thomas Schmitt"  writes:

> Hi,
>
> Richmond wrote:
>> OK I got it booted and re-installed grub from debian. But I don't
>> know why it happened, I haven't changed any keys or done anything
>> except an opensuse update. I will ask the opensuse list
>
> I remember to have seen discussions about newly installed shim adding
> names of older shims or bootloaders to something called SBAT.  I find
> in my mailbox a mail with a link to
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209985
>
> About SBAT i found in the web:
>   
> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Secure-Boot-Advanced-Targeting.html
>   https://github.com/rhboot/shim/blob/main/SBAT.md
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas

Thanks. They have a wiki on how to fix this:

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:UEFI#Reset_SBAT_string_for_booting_to_old_shim_in_old_Leap_image

I found re-installing debian's grub easier, until next time perhaps...

Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt

Hi,

Richmond wrote:
> OK I got it booted and re-installed grub from debian. But I don't know
> why it happened, I haven't changed any keys or done anything except an
> opensuse update. I will ask the opensuse list

I remember to have seen discussions about newly installed shim adding
names of older shims or bootloaders to something called SBAT.
I find in my mailbox a mail with a link to
  https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209985

About SBAT i found in the web:

https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Secure-Boot-Advanced-Targeting.html
  https://github.com/rhboot/shim/blob/main/SBAT.md

Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-01 Thread Richmond

Marco Moock  writes:

> Am 01.06.2024 um 20:01:43 Uhr schrieb Richmond:
>
>> Should I disable secure boot temporarily? will that allow booting?
>
> That should allow booting it.
>
> Have you changed anything at the keys in the EFI (maybe UEFI
> firmware update)?

OK I got it booted and re-installed grub from debian. But I don't know
why it happened, I haven't changed any keys or done anything except an
opensuse update. I will ask the opensuse list

Re: Help! secure boot is preventing boot of debian

2024-06-01 Thread Marco Moock

Am 01.06.2024 um 20:01:43 Uhr schrieb Richmond:

> Should I disable secure boot temporarily? will that allow booting?

That should allow booting it.

Have you changed anything at the keys in the EFI (maybe UEFI
firmware update)?

-- 
Gruß
Marco

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Re: Help to report a bug related to a usb3 lan adapter driver

2024-04-15 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:57:00 +0200
user7415 same  wrote:

> I had a discussion in stack exchange related to the problem that is
> well explained here:
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/774594/debian-12-all-of-sudden-my-usb3-lan-adapter-get-assigned-random-mac-address-ea
> 
> For what I understood the problem was fixed in 6.8, but I'm using
> debian 12 that will never use that so much new kernel I guess, could
> you help me to report officially the bug so that the upstream channel
> will correct it by the 6.1.0-22 version ?

Bookwom backports has linux-image-6.6.13+bpo-amd64. You might try that.
https://backports.debian.org/

It just so happens I have one of the same beasties. I just plugged it
in to a machine running kernel 6.6.13+bpo-amd64, unplugged it, waited
20 seconds, and plugged it in to another machine running kernel
6.5.0-0.deb12.4-amd64. I then plugged it into a machine with
6.6.13+bpo-amd64. All three times I got a MAC address of
8c:ae:4c:d6:22:17. So either of those kernels might well work for you.

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Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-05 Thread Curt

On 2024-04-01, Michel Verdier  wrote:
> On 2024-04-01, DdB wrote:
>
>>> A computer with a 6-core processor, 64 GB memory, and 9 drive bays/
>>> ports that cannot boot USB?  That does not make sense.
>>
>> Why not?
>
> Perhaps because usb boot is available since a very long time
>

The OP informed us that the board was over ten years old, and does not
offer USB booting.

I would assume he would know, and you would not.

SOLVED (was: Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed)

2024-04-01 Thread DdB

Am 01.04.2024 um 18:52 schrieb David Christensen:
> A bad USB flash drive would explain why you cannot boot the Debian
> installer.  Please buy a good quality USB 3.0+ flash drive and try again.

A friend of mine just let me use an external CD-Drive with the netboot
image. This is already the third time, i am restarting the installation
process, due to my false assumptions about the intelligence within the
installer.

The last time, i was quite happy until i came to notice, that partitions
were not aligned with physical sector boundaries, which i assumed would
be elementary best practice.

But apart from losing some of my illusions the hard way, all is well.
A big thank you to all the crowd offering suggestions and encouragement.

so long, DdB

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-01 Thread David Christensen


On 4/1/24 03:10, DdB wrote:

Am 01.04.2024 um 07:44 schrieb David Christensen:

Please post a console session that identifies the ISO you are using,
verifies the checksum, burns the ISO to a USB flash drive, and compares
the ISO against the flash drive.


Ok, in the meantime, i came to similar conclusions and found that the
USB-stick i was using, had consistent read errors at the first 2
gigabytes after having been used for years as memory extension in my
router. Fixed that and will replace the stick.



A bad USB flash drive would explain why you cannot boot the Debian 
installer.  Please buy a good quality USB 3.0+ flash drive and try again.



David

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-01 Thread Michel Verdier

On 2024-04-01, DdB wrote:

>> A computer with a 6-core processor, 64 GB memory, and 9 drive bays/
>> ports that cannot boot USB?  That does not make sense.
>
> Why not?

Perhaps because usb boot is available since a very long time

> *should* is the correct word. The board being over 10 years old, it does
> not offer USB booting, no way.

I have one 20+ old which can usb boot but need to switch it in the
bios. The usb choice appears in the bios only after having plugged the
usb device. And of course detecting a valid usb device. You should check
that.

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-04-01 Thread DdB

Am 01.04.2024 um 07:44 schrieb David Christensen:
> 
> 
> A computer with a 6-core processor, 64 GB memory, and 9 drive bays/
> ports that cannot boot USB?  That does not make sense.

Why not?

> 
> 
> Please post a console session that identifies the ISO you are using,
> verifies the checksum, burns the ISO to a USB flash drive, and compares
> the ISO against the flash drive.

Ok, in the meantime, i came to similar conclusions and found that the
USB-stick i was using, had consistent read errors at the first 2
gigabytes after having been used for years as memory extension in my
router. Fixed that and will replace the stick.

> 
> 
> Then insert the USB flash drive into a USB port on the the target
> computer, power up and enter Setup, reset the settings to factory
> defaults, enable USB booting, set the USB flash drive as the first boot
> device, save, and exit.  The Debian installer should then boot.

*should* is the correct word. The board being over 10 years old, it does
not offer USB booting, no way. It is an early server board that supports
that much ECC, which is great for zfs.
> 
> 
> David

But i received many hints and ideas and just have to wait for a friend
of mine to overcome my physical handicap to see some progress. :-)

Tx 2 everyone
DdB

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread David Christensen


On 3/31/24 02:18, DdB wrote:

Hello list,

i intend to create a huge backup server from some oldish hardware.
Hardware has been partly refurbished and offers 1 SSD + 8 HDD on a 6core
Intel with 64 GB RAM.
Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working from the SSD,
which got lvm partitioning and is basically empty. As i have no working
CD drive nor can this old machine boot from USB, i put an ISO for
bookworm onto an lvm-LV. Using grub, i can manually boot from that ISO
and see the first installer screens. But after asking some questions,
the installer wants to mount the external media (ISO), and does not find
it on sd[a-z], then aborts.
By switching to Desktop 4, i can see the attempt to search for the
"CD"-drive, which is bound to fail.
I am not familiar with the very restricted shell, that is available from
the installer (busybox) and have not yet found an approach to circumvent
my problems. i would like to use the installer, as debootstrapping would
necessitate alot more knowledge than mine.

Suggestions are welcome :-)
DdB




A computer with a 6-core processor, 64 GB memory, and 9 drive bays/ 
ports that cannot boot USB?  That does not make sense.



Please post a console session that identifies the ISO you are using, 
verifies the checksum, burns the ISO to a USB flash drive, and compares 
the ISO against the flash drive.



Then insert the USB flash drive into a USB port on the the target 
computer, power up and enter Setup, reset the settings to factory 
defaults, enable USB booting, set the USB flash drive as the first boot 
device, save, and exit.  The Debian installer should then boot.



David

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread David Wright

On Sun 31 Mar 2024 at 11:18:30 (+0200), DdB wrote:

> Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working from the SSD,
> which got lvm partitioning and is basically empty. As i have no working
> CD drive nor can this old machine boot from USB, i put an ISO for
> bookworm onto an lvm-LV. Using grub, i can manually boot from that ISO
> and see the first installer screens. But after asking some questions,
> the installer wants to mount the external media (ISO), and does not find
> it on sd[a-z], then aborts.
> By switching to Desktop 4, i can see the attempt to search for the
> "CD"-drive, which is bound to fail.
> I am not familiar with the very restricted shell, that is available from
> the installer (busybox) and have not yet found an approach to circumvent
> my problems. i would like to use the installer, as debootstrapping would
> necessitate alot more knowledge than mine.

My memory of doing this is rusty, as it's a while since my
Seattle2 machine finally expired. I would try downloading the
kernel¹ and initrd from:

  
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/

as these can search for the ISO in a greater range of locations.
I'd copy the two files onto the hard disk, and use an entry like:

  menuentry "Install Debian via HTTP" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root noah03
linux   /boot/linux priority=low
initrd  /boot/initrd.gz
  }

in Grub to boot it. (Add a custom entry, or just edit a preexisting
entry to suit. BTW I use LABELs on my disks.) Make sure the kernel
versions are the same for those two files and the ISO.

https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/apas02.en.html#howto-getting-images-hard-disk
https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch05s01.en.html#boot-initrd
https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch04s04.en.html

¹ I see linux, rather than vmlinuz, at that location now.

Cheers,
David.

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Kjörling

On 31 Mar 2024 11:18 +0200, from debianl...@potentially-spam.de-bruyn.de (DdB):
> As i have no working
> CD drive nor can this old machine boot from USB, i put an ISO for
> bookworm onto an lvm-LV. Using grub, i can manually boot from that ISO
> and see the first installer screens. But after asking some questions,
> the installer wants to mount the external media (ISO), and does not find
> it on sd[a-z], then aborts.

I would suggest to write the _same_ ISO file to a USB stick of
sufficient size, and leave the USB stick connected while running the
installer. The installer should detect the USB stick and use that as
the source for installation, regardless of how you booted into the
installer.

As long as both media contain the same data, this should be completely
unproblematic.

Think of it as a variation of, in the old days, booting the installer
from a floppy (on a system that couldn't boot from CD) but actually
installing from a CD.

-- 
Michael Kjörling 🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread Felix Miata

DdB composed on 2024-03-31 11:18 (UTC+0200):

> Suggestions are welcome :-)

https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

All my installations use this NET method. What I usually do though is extract
linux and initrd.gz from it or directly from the mirrors and load them with Grub
rather than booting the NET .iso.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

Re: help needed to get a bookworm install to succeed

2024-03-31 Thread Geert Stappers

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 11:18:30AM +0200, DdB wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> i intend to create a huge backup server from some oldish hardware.
> Hardware has been partly refurbished and offers 1 SSD + 8 HDD on a 6core
> Intel with 64 GB RAM.
> Already before assembling the hardware, grub was working from the SSD,
> which got lvm partitioning and is basically empty. As i have no working
> CD drive nor can this old machine boot from USB, i put an ISO for
> bookworm onto an lvm-LV.

Not knowing how that was done, I guess disk was taken to another
computer where the lvm-LV was written.

If so:  put the (ISO)image just on the disk, not in LVM.



> Using grub, i can manually boot from that ISO
> and see the first installer screens. But after asking some questions,
> the installer wants to mount the external media (ISO), and does not find
> it on sd[a-z], then aborts.
> By switching to Desktop 4, i can see the attempt to search for the
> "CD"-drive, which is bound to fail.
> I am not familiar with the very restricted shell, that is available from
> the installer (busybox) and have not yet found an approach to circumvent
> my problems. i would like to use the installer, as debootstrapping would
> necessitate alot more knowledge than mine.
> 
> Suggestions are welcome :-)

Original post based:
  Take bootdisk out the back server,
  take the disk to other server.
  Install there, move the disk to the back server.

What I would do:
  Network boot


> DdB
 

Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
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