Re: Help Installing Debian
Klistvud (klist...@gmail.com on 2011-05-21 10:04 +0200): > Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a): > > [snip] > > > I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with > > moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-? > > Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need > a (tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed. > There's no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS > partition table). Exactly. If you want to boot from a GPT-based disk with grub2 (and you have a BIOS-based system), you need to create a partition for it. The type is "BIOS Boot Partition" (gdisk type ef02, don't know how other partitioning software handles it), and it can be as small as 64kB. I usually use a partition size of 256kB just to be sure. For a laugh, check out the GUID for the BBP on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition :) HTH, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110522202227.046a3...@neminis.loos.site
Re: Help Installing Debian
Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a): [snip] I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-? Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need a (tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed. There's no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS partition table). [pins] -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305965054.4298.1@compax
Re: Help Installing Debian
On Sat, 21 May 2011 11:35:42 +0530, Joy wrote: > I am using IBM System X 3400 M3 with Raid1 and Raid5. > Raid1 id being used to have Debian and raid5 for /home partiotion. Are those raid over a hardware raid controller or you want to create a software based raid? > Whenever i am trying to install it after creating a partition when it > goes to format reboots my system. You can try to install Debian with the partitions already made and formatted, using the Gparted LiveCD. > I have also tried lenny 5.8 which is not detecting my disk at all > neither showing anything missing. Better than lenny is squeeze, now the current stable. If lenny was not detecting your hard disks that can mean that: 1/ Your hard disk controller is very new and the kernel shipped with lenny did not included the drivers for it. 2/ Your hard disk setup is not recognized by the installer (for instance, if you are using the BIOS sata raid facility and so you need to use "dmraid", which I do not recommend at all). > I have tried RHEL 5.4 which says can not create boot partition because > og GPT partitioning scheme. I could only manage to install RHEL 6 > successfully. I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-? Debian installer logs messages to console tty4, maybe you can jump into it at the partitioning stage to have more information about the error. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.05.21.07.40...@gmail.com
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
Here's what I do, got it from some dual-boot HOWTO or something: 1. The Win2000 system is set up and installed, all OK. 2. Lilo is set up as follows: boot=/dev/hda5 # instead or boot=/dev/hda This is the option to install to the partition instead of the MBR. 3. After running lilo, I run the command dd bs=512 if=/dev/hda5 of= bootsect.lnx count=1 This copies the first 512 bytes of /dev/hda5 to the file bootsect.lnx. 4. Copy the file bootsect.lnx into the root of your Win2000 system. 5. Edit your Windows boot.ini file by adding the line: C:\bootsect.lnx="Debian Linux" 6. Now you're good to go. Each time you boot, the Windows boot menu will list Debian Linux as an option. On my system it's the default. The downside to this method is that you have to recreate the bootsect.lnx file every time you you run lilo, but I don't do that too often. HTH, Paul -- Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- Please note new email address
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:20:57PM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote: > I would do that, but there is one main problem that i can't remember if i > mentioned way back in the beginning...I have my three hard drives on a > Promise UDMA66 card...and my DVD and CD burner are on the motherboard. > So...maybe that's the problem my BIOS is having. It could be conflicting > with my Promise card's BIOS and not knowing which drive to boot up, so the > BIOS overrides anything else. I might be stuck with trying GRUB...but not > much is going on there either...I made a GRUB boot disk...and when it boots, > it doesn't give me a menu or anything...just says "GRUB >". I'll get Linux > on this machine one way or another. Just don't know the best way to go > about doing it. I have a backup of Win2000, and the rest of the drive, so > that isn't a problem(not that I know of). Anyone out there have a Promise > card, and had Windows2000 installed first, then tried to install Debian? If > you did, please let me know how the heck you got it installed. The help > would be GREATLY appreciated!!! :)) I'm not giving up... A few years ago, when I was first learning linux, there was a rule that a pc operating system MUST boot off one of the first 2 IDE drives. I believe that wasn't a LILO thing so much as in IA (Intel Architecture) thing. Of course at that time, we had a 512 Mb booting rule too . . . Maybe the above doesn't apply any more, but it might. -- Thank you, Joe Bouchard Powered by Debian GNU/Linux
RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire ) I would do that, but there is one main problem that i can't remember if i mentioned way back in the beginning...I have my three hard drives on a Promise UDMA66 card...and my DVD and CD burner are on the motherboard. So...maybe that's the problem my BIOS is having. It could be conflicting with my Promise card's BIOS and not knowing which drive to boot up, so the BIOS overrides anything else. I might be stuck with trying GRUB...but not much is going on there either...I made a GRUB boot disk...and when it boots, it doesn't give me a menu or anything...just says "GRUB >". I'll get Linux on this machine one way or another. Just don't know the best way to go about doing it. I have a backup of Win2000, and the rest of the drive, so that isn't a problem(not that I know of). Anyone out there have a Promise card, and had Windows2000 installed first, then tried to install Debian? If you did, please let me know how the heck you got it installed. The help would be GREATLY appreciated!!! :)) I'm not giving up... > -Original Message- > From: csj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 3:24 PM > To: LaGuardia, Kristofer S. > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain > misfire ) > > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:32:13 -0600 > "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would > really really > like > > to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is > installed > on the > > C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I > would > > like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and > install it > > onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on > it...I > > have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing > something > > else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might > make > > sense. > > If you're that desperate, I suggest just going to the bios and > temporarily tagging drive C as "uninstalled." That way it won't boot > even if you can't get LILO to dual boot. Just install your > bootloader on > drive D (hdb), and forget that drive C exists. I once did that in my > dark Window$ days so I can get two different Window$ installations to > live in peace and harmony. Now if you want Bill back, just go to the > bios and do the reverse, tag D as "uninstalled" and C as "installed." >
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:32:13 -0600 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would really really like > to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the > C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I would > like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and install it > onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on it...I > have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something > else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make > sense. If you're that desperate, I suggest just going to the bios and temporarily tagging drive C as "uninstalled." That way it won't boot even if you can't get LILO to dual boot. Just install your bootloader on drive D (hdb), and forget that drive C exists. I once did that in my dark Window$ days so I can get two different Window$ installations to live in peace and harmony. Now if you want Bill back, just go to the bios and do the reverse, tag D as "uninstalled" and C as "installed."
RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 How did you do it? Also, do you have Win2000 on your first drive and then Debian on your second drive? > -Original Message- > From: Rino Mardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 6:16 AM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17 > > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000 or thereabouts, > Matthew Dalton wrote: > > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > > > No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things > > > much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can > > > handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first' > > > (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR. > > > > Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything > like NT (it > > is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup > Linux to boot > > from the Windows 2000 bootloader. > > > > If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your > Windows 2000 > > installation unbootable. > > > <...snipped...> > i object! always wanted to say that. :-) > > i have win2k, linux, freebsd on my box and i use lilo to boot each OS. > > letting the win2k bootloader to boot your linux partition > will only make it > hard for you should you choose to recompile your kernel. >
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000 or thereabouts, Matthew Dalton wrote: > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things > > much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can > > handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first' > > (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR. > > Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it > is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot > from the Windows 2000 bootloader. > > If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000 > installation unbootable. > <...snipped...> i object! always wanted to say that. :-) i have win2k, linux, freebsd on my box and i use lilo to boot each OS. letting the win2k bootloader to boot your linux partition will only make it hard for you should you choose to recompile your kernel. pgpFGIVTXZyO6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:32:13AM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote: | Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would really really like | to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the | C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I would | like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and install it | onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on it...I | have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something | else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make | sense. Go with GRUB! It works beautifully. There is a Dell machine at work that has win2k on the beginning of the (big) hard drive and RH on the end. LILO (that came with RH6.2 anyways) had trouble booting Linux because it was too far into the disk, and I couldn't get it to boot win2k at all. Then I tried grub and had no trouble with either OS. In addition, my home PC had win98 on the first hard disk (ide bus 0) and Debian on the second hard disk (ide bus 1). LILO couldn't boot linux because my BIOS was too crappy to boot from the second disk (it was a compaq machine). After my good experience with grub at work I tried it at home and it had no trouble dual-booting! IMO grub is much easier to configure and use than lilo too. http://www.gnu.org/software/grub HTH, -D
RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire )
Title: RE: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire) Believe me, I don't want to give up on Debian. I would really really like to get it up and running. My biggest problem is Win2000 is installed on the C drive, or first drive, and Debian is installed on the D drive. I would like to stay with LILO if possible. I'm about to break down and install it onto the same drive as Win2000. I'll just make another partition on it...I have 20 gigs free on it so I don't have a problem with installing something else on it. Then some of the tutorials and the installation might make sense. > -Original Message- > From: Timeboy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:46 AM > To: LaGuardia, Kristofer S. > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain > misfire) > > > On 2001.09.05 15:39 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." wrote: > > Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it > to the boot > > partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh > well, i will try > > again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where > would I find cd > > images of "Woody"? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I > can't find the > > images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder... > > Hey! > > Don't give up. Debian is a little bit harder to use for newbies, then > Mandrake or somthimg like else. But the best Linux i ever used. > > How i remember you have your Windows on a FAT32 partition? You can put > LILO into your MBR. And if you take my suggestion (Linux on the first > HD), there are no problems if you install LILO into MBR of this Linux > drive. > > I don't know whether there is a CD image for Woody. But do you have a > CD set from Potato? Then install first Potato. Best only the base > packages and that was is needed to get an connection to the internet. > Using the tool dselect is very good to get an easy upgrade to Woody. > And then you can install the other packages are needed of you. > > There is nothing while booting your new Debian Linux? Do you remember > my words that the BIOS only can boot from you first hard disk? If > Debian is on another disk you have to set your other disks to "none" > in your BIOS. Then you should be able to boot from your Linux drive. > After you have configured your LILO correct, you can put your other > drives again into the BIOS. > > Timo >
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)
On 2001.09.05 15:39 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." wrote: > Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it to the boot > partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh well, i will try > again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where would I find cd > images of "Woody"? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I can't find the > images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder... Hey! Don't give up. Debian is a little bit harder to use for newbies, then Mandrake or somthimg like else. But the best Linux i ever used. How i remember you have your Windows on a FAT32 partition? You can put LILO into your MBR. And if you take my suggestion (Linux on the first HD), there are no problems if you install LILO into MBR of this Linux drive. I don't know whether there is a CD image for Woody. But do you have a CD set from Potato? Then install first Potato. Best only the base packages and that was is needed to get an connection to the internet. Using the tool dselect is very good to get an easy upgrade to Woody. And then you can install the other packages are needed of you. There is nothing while booting your new Debian Linux? Do you remember my words that the BIOS only can boot from you first hard disk? If Debian is on another disk you have to set your other disks to "none" in your BIOS. Then you should be able to boot from your Linux drive. After you have configured your LILO correct, you can put your other drives again into the BIOS. Timo
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r3 (formerly 2.2r17 - brain misfire)
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 07:39:17AM -0600, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote: | Okay, I didn't install LILO to the MBR. I did install it to the boot | partition. However, nothing came up at boot time. Oh well, i will try | again tonight...maybe I'm just missing something. Where would I find cd | images of "Woody"? I am willing to give it a whirl. If I can't find the | images I might have to go back to Mandrake...shudder... Grab ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/grub-0.90-i386-pc.ext2fs and dump it to a floppy disk. Then you can boot with it. If you like grub then I can provide you with more details on configuring and installing it. When booting grub provides you with a preconfigured menu (that is, you configure it by ediing a file, this floppy image comes with a sample config) and a command line so that you can try out various options and see what works. If you installed Linux on /dev/hda1 then you want to have (hd0,0) as your root partition in grub's config. You can dump the image to a floppy using dd if=grub-0.90-i386-pc.ext2fs of=/dev/fd0 or you can use rawwritewin if you have a windows system (it's much better now since it has a gui). HTH, -D
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote: > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things > > much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can > > handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first' > > (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR. > > Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it > is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot > from the Windows 2000 bootloader. > > If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000 > installation unbootable. It depends on what kind of filesystem you have chosen for your Win2K installation. If it is NTFS, then you can use lilo to call the Win2K bootloader; Linux can be booted through lilo as usual. If you have used FAT32, then you can use lilo as you would for earlier avatars of Windoze. Sam -- (Sam Varghese) http://www.gnubies.com
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:16:46PM +1000, Matthew Dalton wrote: > Hall Stevenson wrote: > > > No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things > > much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can > > handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first' > > (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR. > > Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it > is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot > from the Windows 2000 bootloader. > > If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000 > installation unbootable. > > This howto tells you what to do for a Windows NT/Linux dual boot > machine. Read it and see if it can apply to Windows 2000 as well. > > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html > I really don't know about LILO with this, but I have GRUB in my MBR, and it is able to load W2K using chainloader +1 , but I am not sure if LILO will be able to load it. > > Matthew > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GPG key-id: 1024D/5BE3DCFD Dmitriy CCAB 5F17 A099 9E43 1DBE 295C 9A21 2F1C 5BE3 DCFD Free Dmitry Sklyarov! http://www.freesklyarov.org pgpYToZ26c0N0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
Hall Stevenson wrote: > No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things > much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can > handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first' > (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR. Don't install LILO to the MBR! If Windows 2000 is anything like NT (it is supposed to be NT 5, after all), you will need to setup Linux to boot from the Windows 2000 bootloader. If you install LILO to the MBR, you will likely render your Windows 2000 installation unbootable. This howto tells you what to do for a Windows NT/Linux dual boot machine. Read it and see if it can apply to Windows 2000 as well. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html Matthew
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
On 2001.09.04 21:39 Timeboy wrote: > On 2001.09.04 11:51 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." wrote: > > > Quick question, if I > > want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition is > > for /usr? Is it a type? Anyhow... > > Hope i understand this question! What do you mean with specify a > partition? Ok. I think you like to know wheter there is a different > between a root and a /usr partition. The answer is no. > > Only the swap partition is a special one. All others are ext2 > partitions. This is the standart, like fat32 in windows. You can > have a lot of ext2 partitions on your Linux system. For best HD > performance you should have only the root ( / ) partition. > > I don't know why it shold be good to have a seperate /usr partition > I only have some extra pertitions for software, that has nothing to > do with the Debian system like audio files and sources and other stuff, > that i have to save on my HD for a little time. And i have a /home > partition, cause i also here save a lot of own software like HTML > sites for the web. > > All this partitions you can initialize while installing Debian after > the part for partiton a HD. > > > I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so I > > select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem. I had > > set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot. is that correct? > > No! If you like to have only one ext2 partition, you have to set this > to / partition. This is the highest level of the Linux directory tree. > On this partition you can mount the /boot partition if nessessary. But > on the /boot partitin you can't install the Debian system that needs > the / partition as highest place. Both partitions as primary is ok. > Linux makes no differents between primary and extended. You can use > both possibilities. > > > Or should Linux type be primary and the swap type to be logical? > > Do it how you like!! > > > Then it > > asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right? So I > > choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux when > > I start the computer, and I say yes. is this all correct for a dual boot? > > No! > > First: For a dual boot you need to install LILO in the MBR of your first > hard disk. If you have your windows allready installed on your first HD, > you should change your disks if possible. > > If your Windows goes to slave, you will have no big problems with > installing LILO into MBR of your master hard disk cause it's a Linux > HD now. > > If you then boot your Debian at first time, you will only have access > to your first hard disk. But this you can do, to be able to boot both > systems: > > edit your /etc/lilo.conf. You can use the editor vi. Install vi if > not installed and type as root: > > vi /etc/lilo.conf > > To insert text into this file you need to type the i. Only after this > you can put new text into this lilo.conf file. If all is donne use > Escape to leave the insert modus. And with :wq you will write your > changes to hd and exit of vi. > > This is my /etc/lilo.conf, written for Linux on first and Windows on > second drive: > > lba32 > boot=/dev/hda > install=/boot/boot.b > map=/boot/map > # password=tatercounter2000 > # message=/boot/bootmess.txt > prompt > timeout=100 > vga=0x133 <---for biger letters in console you should set: vga=normal > default=Linux > > image=/boot/vmlinuz > root=/dev/hda1 > label=Linux > read-only > > other=/dev/hdb1 > table=/dev/hdb > label=win > map-drive=0x80 <---This and the following lines will change your > to=0x81 drive addresses for the BIOS, which can normally > map-drive=0x81 only boot from first drive. > to=0x80 > > After you have modified your /etc/lilo.conf you have to type on console: > > lilo > > This will write your new configured Lilo into MBR. That's all!! > > > Then I don't know what to do. There's also a question I have about the > > video card detection. It mentions it can scan the PCI...does this also mean > > it will check AGP(or is AGP also part of the PCI?)? > > Yes! I also have an AGP card but the kernel tells me thomething about > PCI. This is ok. > > > I need a tutorial on how to get Windows 2000(C:), to dual boot with Debian > > on a different physical drive(D:). > > Hope my suggestions will be enough. It's very easy to boot more systems > with Lilo and you don't need much knowledge about this. > > > On a side note, anyone know of a Debian tutorial on setting up @HOME? Just > > a brief walkthrough would be nice... > > I can suggest you the book Debian GNU Linux Guide. You should get it in > all good book shops. And you can ask us more. > > If you have not yet installed the debian packages manpages and man-db: > do it. For the example Lilo: > > man lilo > > will give you some more informations about this boot loader. And there > are
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
On 2001.09.04 21:56 Timeboy wrote: > > A little warning: > > > image=/boot/vmlinuz<-!! > root=/dev/hda9 > append="idebus=33 hdc=ide-scsi" > label=Linux > read-only > > My vmlinuz is on this place: /boot/vmlinuz. But i mean yours will be: > /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17. You can let this part of lilo.conf on your > current settings. /vmlinuz should it be. Cause there is a link to > /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 on /. Check this if lilo makes an error message. > > Timo >
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
A little warning: image=/boot/vmlinuz<-!! root=/dev/hda9 append="idebus=33 hdc=ide-scsi" label=Linux read-only My vmlinuz is on this place: /boot/vmlinuz. But i mean yours will be: /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17. You can let this part of lilo.conf on your current settings. /vmlinuz should it be. Cause there is a link to /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17 on /. Check this if lilo makes an error message. Timo
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
On 2001.09.04 11:51 "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." wrote: > Quick question, if I > want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition is > for /usr? Is it a type? Anyhow... Hope i understand this question! What do you mean with specify a partition? Ok. I think you like to know wheter there is a different between a root and a /usr partition. The answer is no. Only the swap partition is a special one. All others are ext2 partitions. This is the standart, like fat32 in windows. You can have a lot of ext2 partitions on your Linux system. For best HD performance you should have only the root ( / ) partition. I don't know why it shold be good to have a seperate /usr partition I only have some extra pertitions for software, that has nothing to do with the Debian system like audio files and sources and other stuff, that i have to save on my HD for a little time. And i have a /home partition, cause i also here save a lot of own software like HTML sites for the web. All this partitions you can initialize while installing Debian after the part for partiton a HD. > I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so I > select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem. I had > set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot. is that correct? No! If you like to have only one ext2 partition, you have to set this to / partition. This is the highest level of the Linux directory tree. On this partition you can mount the /boot partition if nessessary. But on the /boot partitin you can't install the Debian system that needs the / partition as highest place. Both partitions as primary is ok. Linux makes no differents between primary and extended. You can use both possibilities. > Or should Linux type be primary and the swap type to be logical? Do it how you like!! > Then it > asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right? So I > choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux when > I start the computer, and I say yes. is this all correct for a dual boot? No! First: For a dual boot you need to install LILO in the MBR of your first hard disk. If you have your windows allready installed on your first HD, you should change your disks if possible. If your Windows goes to slave, you will have no big problems with installing LILO into MBR of your master hard disk cause it's a Linux HD now. If you then boot your Debian at first time, you will only have access to your first hard disk. But this you can do, to be able to boot both systems: edit your /etc/lilo.conf. You can use the editor vi. Install vi if not installed and type as root: vi /etc/lilo.conf To insert text into this file you need to type the i. Only after this you can put new text into this lilo.conf file. If all is donne use Escape to leave the insert modus. And with :wq you will write your changes to hd and exit of vi. This is my /etc/lilo.conf, written for Linux on first and Windows on second drive: lba32 boot=/dev/hda install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map # password=tatercounter2000 # message=/boot/bootmess.txt prompt timeout=100 vga=0x133 <---for biger letters in console you should set: vga=normal default=Linux image=/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 label=Linux read-only other=/dev/hdb1 table=/dev/hdb label=win map-drive=0x80 <---This and the following lines will change your to=0x81 drive addresses for the BIOS, which can normally map-drive=0x81 only boot from first drive. to=0x80 After you have modified your /etc/lilo.conf you have to type on console: lilo This will write your new configured Lilo into MBR. That's all!! > Then I don't know what to do. There's also a question I have about the > video card detection. It mentions it can scan the PCI...does this also mean > it will check AGP(or is AGP also part of the PCI?)? Yes! I also have an AGP card but the kernel tells me thomething about PCI. This is ok. > I need a tutorial on how to get Windows 2000(C:), to dual boot with Debian > on a different physical drive(D:). Hope my suggestions will be enough. It's very easy to boot more systems with Lilo and you don't need much knowledge about this. > On a side note, anyone know of a Debian tutorial on setting up @HOME? Just > a brief walkthrough would be nice... I can suggest you the book Debian GNU Linux Guide. You should get it in all good book shops. And you can ask us more. If you have not yet installed the debian packages manpages and man-db: do it. For the example Lilo: man lilo will give you some more informations about this boot loader. And there are much more man pages for all kommands, tools and so on. Timo
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, LaGuardia, Kristofer S. wrote: > I tried searching the lists, but couldn't find anything. I want to dual > boot 2.2r17 with Windows 2000. All of the tutorial I have seen show both > residing on the same hard drive. Well, I would like them on separate hard > drives. The hard drives are arranged as: guess you can't find anything because 2.2r17 is far from being released, if ever ;-) Where is the problem? It makes no difference for Linux if its on another partition on the same drive or on a different drive. Just make sure you got the names right: the second IDE drive is hdb; the first partitio is hdb1, the second is hdb2... ; logical ones start counting at 5! > > First Drive - 30GB - Windows 2000 Only(FAT32 full drive) > Second Drive - 13 GB - Linux Only (Two partitions with one as swap) > Third Drive - 10GB - FAT32 Full drive and to be used as a shared drive for > both OSs > I am not sure about lilo in potato but i think the one thats in the distri has no longer the problem with the 1024 cylinders. > have this and that licensed. I've read documentation on dual-booting, but > there are some steps that don't make any sense to me since they are either > written for Mandrake, or they don't use the same version of Debian as I > have. I have 2.2r17, and i get to partitioning my hard drive. I'm not new should make no big differnce, if at all! > to computers, but am new to the terminology used in Linux. I understand > that I need at least two partitions for Linux. So on my second drive I > create a Linux swap type partition(512MB because I have 256MB of RAM), and > then the rest of the drive is just a Linux partition. Quick question, if I > want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition is > for /usr? Is it a type? Anyhow... 256 MB of swap seems far to much for me, but partitioning is a kind of art and experience but should be all right for the beginnig. If you create a partition for e.g. /usr you just tell the setup that you want to mount /usr there. There is one point in the setup where you create your partitions and then there is a step which says use existing partitions (I am not sure about the right useage of sentences) thats what you whant. > > I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so I > select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem. I had > set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot. is that correct? No, if you have only 2 partitions the one shuld be swap and the other should be / I don't think the setup would let yo ugoing on without specifying the root partition. > Or should Linux type be primary and the swap type to be logical? Then it > asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right? So I > choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux when > I start the computer, and I say yes. is this all correct for a dual boot? I woul drecommed to install lilo in the mbr and let lilo boot Linux or W2k otherwise you need a bootmanager that is able to boot lilo. > Then I don't know what to do. There's also a question I have about the > video card detection. It mentions it can scan the PCI...does this also mean > it will check AGP(or is AGP also part of the PCI?)? Don't know about that, but Debian was quite good in detecting my hardware, so why not letting it go and see what it does. You can change everything later if somethings wrong. > > I need a tutorial on how to get Windows 2000(C:), to dual boot with Debian > on a different physical drive(D:). > See above. > On a side note, anyone know of a Debian tutorial on setting up @HOME? Just > a brief walkthrough would be nice... > what is @HOME? Debain on a home PC? How about http://www.uk.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst ?? > Thanks to anyone who is willing to spend some time with a newbie who wants > to learn this challenging OS, but needs a little guidance. Thanks! > > Kris the Lost > Don't give up, Debian is worth it. Frank
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
Hi, Glad to hear about you using the Linux OS. and Debian is a great Dist. to use, a little more tricky than most others, (mandrake, etc) but in the end, I think you may prefer it over others. Quoting "LaGuardia, Kristofer S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I tried searching the lists, but couldn't find anything. I want to dual > boot 2.2r17 with Windows 2000. Firstly, 2.217 isn't the latest kernel, check out potato r3, if you want the "stable" release of debian, goto woody or sid if your into the newest stuff. > if I > want to create a partition for /usr, how would I specify the partition > is > for /usr? Is it a type? Anyhow... I think there are different ways of doing this, but for now, you could just create a 3rd partition in the same way as your / partition. Then specify a mount point during the install process. for example: you would make hda1 --> swap hda2 --> linux mounted to / hda3 --> linux mounted to /usr > > I then get all the way to the step when it asks me to mount the swap, so > I > select the partition for swap...then the same for Linux...no problem. I > had > set both as primary, but the non-swap partition as boot. is that > correct? yes > asks me if I want to install LILO to MBR or to the partition, right? So > I > choose to the partition...then it asks me if I want to boot into Linux > when > I start the computer, and I say yes. is this all correct for a dual > boot? This part can be tricky, becuase I don't know how Windows2000 handles its booting. Usually, I would install all my OS's first, and then install Debian last. and use its boot manager to decice which OS I wanted. After you install Linux, and then boot into it, you have to edit the /etc/lilo.conf file to setup your other OS's. Then run lilo from the command prompt to set the boot loader, and then your done. Check out www.linuxdoc.org and goto the HOW to's, they have some good stuff in there. Feel free to post more detailed questions here if you get stuck. Hope this helps a bit:) Cheers, Mike
Re: Help installing Debian 2.2r17
> I tried searching the lists, but couldn't find anything. > I want to dual boot 2.2r17 with Windows 2000. All > of the tutorial I have seen show both residing on the > same hard drive. Well, I would like them on separate > hard drives. The hard drives are arranged as... No worries here... Using seperate physical drives makes things much easier. This will actually be a LILO 'issue', but it can handle it just fine. One thing: Install Lilo to your 'first' (/dev/hdaX) hard disk's MBR. I think many of the problems people see with dual-booting is that they're installing Linux on the same drive as their Windows setup. Hall
Re: Help installing Debian-LINUX
On Thu, 24 May 2001 10:07:18, Smruti wrote: > > Hello > I am a new user of LINUX, & want to install Debian-LINUX in my system. I > already have windows-98 in my system. I have a 20GB hard disk partitioned > into 4 Drives. I want to install LINUX in one of my pre-exixting > partitions(e,g : D/). How can I do it? Can I install it in D:\ without > disturbing the windows-98 which is in c: drive? Do I have to repartition the > hard disk while installing Debian-LINUX? If I succeed in installing how can > I swith between operating systems? > Please help me in these matters. > For a good reference on how to set up your machine for dual-boot, see the document at: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Linux+Windows-HOWTO/ It is quite detailed, will explain all the necessary steps for the install. -- Paul T. Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -currently seeking employment-
Re: Help installing Debian-LINUX
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 10:07:18AM +0530, Smruti Jena wrote: > Hello > I am a new user of LINUX, & want to install Debian-LINUX in my system. I > already have windows-98 in my system. I have a 20GB hard disk partitioned > into 4 Drives. I want to install LINUX in one of my pre-exixting > partitions(e,g : D/). How can I do it? Can I install it in D:\ without > disturbing the windows-98 which is in c: drive? Do I have to repartition the > hard disk while installing Debian-LINUX? If I succeed in installing how can > I swith between operating systems? You should take the time to read the installation instructions at - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/#new-inst Yes you can install debian on the disk in question without disturbing Windows. I'm assuming you are installing from a bootable cd disk. Slap the cd in and boot. Make sure the bios is set to boot off the cdrom. You will be asked to partion the disk. At that point you should create your debian partitions on what would be the D: partition looking from your windows side. After you have installed debian you can dual boot with Lilo or Grub. Keep in mind that if you make the wrong move during the partitioning/creating filesytem stage you could hose your Windows side -- so make a backup. hth, kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
Re: HELP!!! Installing Debian
Jan Enning wrote (on 20 May 2001, at 21:17): > > I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and > > DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian. I typed INSTALL and > > the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the > > the following message: > > > > Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00 > > > > What have I missed? Please help! Similar experience yesterday trying to repair the installation on my Toshiba. (I needed to neutralize /etc/init.d/pcmcia in order to boot after stupidly apt-get-upgrading to a wrong package.) Anyway, I recently upgraded my iso images from 2.2 r0 to r3, and now the gear in the "install" directory on CD 1 only got me as far as the same message you noted. Fortunately I still had the 2.2 r0 CDs with me, and they worked! Has something been broken? Is anyone interested in more detail? T. -- Tony Crawford -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +49-3341-30 99 99
Re: HELP!!! Installing Debian
Well I've got a 'solution' :-) The reason I didn't use any floppy is simple because they are most of the time broken, old, etc...not very reliable. But if you don't have any bandwidth, stick with the floppy :-) I downloaded the complete Debian ISO and burned it on a CD, then bought a crappy ATA 50X cd-rom drive for $30. The reason that I did this was that the ATA drives are really plug and play AND bootable! I think on every pentium u can boot with this kind of drive. Now I only plugged it to my OLD P133 and ready to go! No boot floppy's, corrupted files, missing sectors etc... Before I used 'windoos 98' bootfloppy's to get CD-rom support and then booted Debian from DOS. With the Crappy ATA drive you're the king :) I hope it helped u a bit :) Good luck! kleinejan > Hello guys! > I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and > DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian. I typed INSTALL and > the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the > the following message: > > Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00 > > What have I missed? Please help! > > Thanks and more power. > > Arnold > > > * J a n E n n i n g MoBiLe:06-26 106 926 faX:020 88 26 297 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kleinejan.org ICQ:5506065
Re: HELP!!! Installing Debian
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 02:18:30PM -0700, Arnold Canete wrote: > Hello guys! > > I am new to Debian Linux. After downloading files from BASE-i386 and > DISK-i386 directory, i've tried to install debian. I typed INSTALL and > the install.bat file run. After loading some modules, I am stuck to the > the following message: > > Kernel Panic : VFS : Unable to mount root on FS on 01:00 > > What have I missed? Please help! I take it that you don't have a bootable CD-ROM? If so just boot off the CD. If you've downloaded the disk images, boot off the floppies. Looking above you haven't said whether or not you did either. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 pgpQGkpQRv7Xr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help installing debian first time
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 06:18:53PM +0100, Tobias Hahn wrote: > Hi! > > I purchased a new computer and I would like to install debian on it. If > possible, I would like to install kernel 2.4. Is this possible from the > beginning of the installation? If not so, is there a way to build custom > boot cds/floppies containing at least reiserfs? I don't know how stable the woody boot-floppies are. Maybe it would be the safest way, that you install a normal potato system and them upgrade your kernel. There have been some notes how to use 2.4 in potato on this list. Do you really need reiserfs in the boot-floppies? You could make /boot ext2 and the rest could be reiserfs. -- Thomas Guettler Office: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.interface-business.de Private:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://yi.org/guettli
Re: HELP: Installing Debian in a Bussines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My father wants to make some changes in his Bussines and I am >trying to get Debian/Linux into those changes. > > I will explain myself: >He is going to change his system: > >Computer: FUJITSU TITAN2600 (with 24 terminals) >O.S.: PICK O.A. v5.2 >With: Terminal based menues for entering, changing, checking data on each >terminal. > >With a network (Debian if I can help it) > > The idea is that if I can give him a Debian/Linux based system which >fits his needs he installs it, also he wants tu use ( at least for a while) >his >old programs so something like a PICK O.A. interpreter should be perfect and >also needs to port the data to the new system. > >What I think he needs: > > -A PICK interpreter or so. I don't know of any freeware PICK product. PICK Systems make a Linux version of their software; you can also run JBase. You can run a SCO version of UniVerse if you use the iBCS kernel module to run COFF executables. > -Something to convert the old data. Write a DataBasic program to dump data out to tape in a set format. Read it in again on the new machine. (If the OA system is co-existing with Unix you could perhaps make a network connection. > -Some program to later on replace that ¿PICK interpreter? The PICK data model is unique. If you use an SQL database like PostgreSQL, you will need to rework the design of the database; multi-valued fields will have to be normalised. It's a big job. > -Probably some way to keep both systems in parallel. You will need to define input and dump routines for both systems (unless the traffic is one-way only). Do the update via tape. [for tape read floppy if appropriate] -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Unsolicited email advertisements are not welcome; any person sending such will be invoiced for telephone time used in downloading together with a £25 administration charge. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP: Installing Debian in a Bussines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What I think he needs: > > A PICK interpreter or so. > Something to convert the old data. > Some program to later on replace that PICK interpreter? > Probably some way to keep both systems in parallel. That sounds like a pretty complete list. However, it's likely to be a significant effort! (Gawd, PICK. Makes me feel old & I just turned 30). You biggest challange is likely to be finding a PICK interpreter. IIRC, there used to be a dual universe system running PICK over SCO or something similar, but I've no idea where you'd try to find such a beast. I'd suggest you try Fujitsu first... they'll probably want to sell you something but you might get some useful information. Stephen --- "Normality is a statistical illusion." -- me -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Help installing debian "Other" packages
Hi all, I have found out that I am having a problem downloading the file from the ftp site (sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/buzz/msdos-i386), but I don't know how to fix it. If I click on the file (using Netscape Navigator), I get the binary garbage written out to my screen. If I right click on the file icon, and use the "Save Link As.." option, I can save it to my hard disk. The problem is that it is not saving this in a binary format. I can go to the Netscape options (Options | General Preferences... | helpers) and add in the deb extention to the "application/x-compress" entry but this still doesn't work. I went through compuserve and retrieved the same file using their ftp menu and then compared them (saved the same file with a different name) doing a DOS command "fc win95tmp.deb cmpsvtmp.deb /b" and they are way different. I can copy them both to diskette and the one that I downloaded from compuserve will work but the other one won't. What is wrong here? Regards, -- --- Wayne Richardson Advanced Software Engineer 3M Health Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Life is not a spectator sport..." --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help installing debian "Other" packages
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Wayne Richardson wrote: > I can download these packages from the internet from my windows '95 > machine and then transfer them to the Linux system using a diskette. > When I try to run dpkg on these files I get errors. Are you *certain* that you are transferring them in BINARY mode? Do you have your floppy drive mounted so that it does automatic *nix<->DOS conversion? (It shouldn't.) | This is OFFICIAL WRITTEN notification that I want to be REMOVED | | from ALL commercial mailing lists. EVERY message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW.| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
