Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D committee

[Ulrich Stärk]

+0

not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this done or 
whether it would be
better to have it as part of comdev. But better do something than nothing at 
all. Plus, we can fix
stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it out.

Uli

On 05.05.19 00:06, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> 
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness.  The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> 
> Here's my +1.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> 

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Re: GSoC Application and GSoC Paperwork was Re: ULI TIME SENSITIVE - Re: GSoC 2019 Org applications now open

[Ulrich Stärk]

Can you elaborate what paperwork you are referring to?

On 02.02.19 15:35, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> On 2/2/2019 3:59 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>> Can someone please explain what the urgency is? We will have the GSoC 
>> application ready by the
>> deadline on Feb 6, plenty of time left.
> 
> Hi Uli, there are two issues at hand:
> 
> 1 - The application due Feb 6th and concern that you've been ill.  So Maxim 
> stepped up and has been
> leading getting the application done.  That is considered time-sensitive and 
> no one seems to have
> the statistics about student success/failure from GSoC2018.  We have the 2017 
> information as you
> noted elsewhere.  Hopefully that's good to go now.  This was the reason for 
> the time-sensitive
> subject line.
> 
> 2 - The other issue at hand is not as time sensitive.  There are various 
> other paperwork for the
> program that are required as the year goes on that need to be handled to get 
> the donation from
> Google.  I've handled it for the past 2 years and I'm exiting the role.  I'm 
> not being replaced in a
> 1:1 fashion so there are duties that I have been handling that I'm concerned 
> about due to a
> retraction of duties that will leave GSOC slipping through the cracks.  I'd 
> prefer that not happen. 
> 
> Maybe if you can volunteer to handle that for Fundraising, that would be 
> good?  I don't think it
> should fall under treasurer but the issue is it will take someone in a 
> financial role to handle a
> lot of it.  Another idea is to light a fire under the financial committee and 
> add this to the tasks
> it handles as an intermediary to give oversight to treasurer and assistance 
> to fundraising where
> they need.  
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> 
> 
>>
>> On 2. Feb 2019, at 04:27, Kevin A. McGrail > <mailto:kmcgr...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, I've handled all the paperwork for the donation for 2 years, FYI.  
>>> Normally Uli fills out
>>> the application though because it's been sick.  It definitely needs to be 
>>> discussed with you and
>>> Treasurer about who will handle the paperwork.  ComDev is unlikely to be 
>>> able to handle the money
>>> transfer details.  With Treasurer and Fundraising both having paid staff, 
>>> one of the two should
>>> be where the buck stops (pun intended).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>> --
>>> Kevin A. McGrail
>>> VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation
>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:24 PM Daniel Ruggeri >> <mailto:drugg...@primary.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry I wasn't around at the time all these emails were flying. As far 
>>> as I know, GSoC is and
>>> always has been a ComDev thing. While it's super cool that the 
>>> Foundation receives a stipend
>>> for mentoring, that doesn't necessarily pull Fundraising in. I assume 
>>> this is just confusion
>>> of hats.
>>>
>>> It seems like this has been picked up by our good friend Maxim 
>>> (hopefully with some vital
>>> info coming soon from Uli), so I am glad it is in good hands. I guess 
>>> for next year we should
>>> consider pairing people up together so we aren't single threaded.
>>> -- 
>>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>>
>>> On February 1, 2019 1:51:20 PM CST, "Kevin A. McGrail" 
>>> >> <mailto:kmcgr...@apache.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Maxim.  Fundraising has helped before as this is a 
>>> fundraising
>>> item for the ASF but there are some hiccups as my role in 
>>> fundraising is
>>> ending and who is taking over some things is not clear.  All I know
>>> right now is that it isn't Sally.
>>>
>>> I just left Uli a v/m.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2019 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, I was thinking fundraising@ is about the money and the 
>>> sponsors :) Trying to make
>>> things right :) 
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> <mailto:fundraising-h...@apache.org>
>>>
> 
> -- 
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> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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Re: ULI TIME SENSITIVE - Re: GSoC 2019 Org applications now open

[Ulrich Stärk]

And done.

Uli

On 02.02.19 10:07, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> Hello Uli,
> Glad you here :)
> 
> ~4 more days, plenty of time :)
> 
> I, personally, prefer to be prepared i bit earlier than deadline :)
> 
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 at 15:59, Ulrich Stärk  wrote:
>>
>> Can someone please explain what the urgency is? We will have the GSoC 
>> application ready by the deadline on Feb 6, plenty of time left.
>>
>> On 2. Feb 2019, at 04:27, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>>
>> FYI, I've handled all the paperwork for the donation for 2 years, FYI.  
>> Normally Uli fills out the application though because it's been sick.  It 
>> definitely needs to be discussed with you and Treasurer about who will 
>> handle the paperwork.  ComDev is unlikely to be able to handle the money 
>> transfer details.  With Treasurer and Fundraising both having paid staff, 
>> one of the two should be where the buck stops (pun intended).
>>
>> Regards,
>> KAM
>> --
>> Kevin A. McGrail
>> VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation
>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:24 PM Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry I wasn't around at the time all these emails were flying. As far as I 
>>> know, GSoC is and always has been a ComDev thing. While it's super cool 
>>> that the Foundation receives a stipend for mentoring, that doesn't 
>>> necessarily pull Fundraising in. I assume this is just confusion of hats.
>>>
>>> It seems like this has been picked up by our good friend Maxim (hopefully 
>>> with some vital info coming soon from Uli), so I am glad it is in good 
>>> hands. I guess for next year we should consider pairing people up together 
>>> so we aren't single threaded.
>>> --
>>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>>
>>> On February 1, 2019 1:51:20 PM CST, "Kevin A. McGrail" 
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Maxim.  Fundraising has helped before as this is a fundraising
>>>> item for the ASF but there are some hiccups as my role in fundraising is
>>>> ending and who is taking over some things is not clear.  All I know
>>>> right now is that it isn't Sally.
>>>>
>>>> I just left Uli a v/m.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> KAM
>>>>
>>>> On 2/1/2019 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  OK,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I was thinking fundraising@ is about the money and the sponsors :)
>>>>>  Trying to make things right :)
>>>>>
>>>> 
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>>>>
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Re: ULI TIME SENSITIVE - Re: GSoC 2019 Org applications now open

[Ulrich Stärk]

Can someone please explain what the urgency is? We will have the GSoC 
application ready by the deadline on Feb 6, plenty of time left.

> On 2. Feb 2019, at 04:27, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> FYI, I've handled all the paperwork for the donation for 2 years, FYI.  
> Normally Uli fills out the application though because it's been sick.  It 
> definitely needs to be discussed with you and Treasurer about who will handle 
> the paperwork.  ComDev is unlikely to be able to handle the money transfer 
> details.  With Treasurer and Fundraising both having paid staff, one of the 
> two should be where the buck stops (pun intended).
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:24 PM Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:
>> Sorry I wasn't around at the time all these emails were flying. As far as I 
>> know, GSoC is and always has been a ComDev thing. While it's super cool that 
>> the Foundation receives a stipend for mentoring, that doesn't necessarily 
>> pull Fundraising in. I assume this is just confusion of hats.
>> 
>> It seems like this has been picked up by our good friend Maxim (hopefully 
>> with some vital info coming soon from Uli), so I am glad it is in good 
>> hands. I guess for next year we should consider pairing people up together 
>> so we aren't single threaded.
>> -- 
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>> 
>>> On February 1, 2019 1:51:20 PM CST, "Kevin A. McGrail" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Thanks Maxim.  Fundraising has helped before as this is a fundraising
>>> item for the ASF but there are some hiccups as my role in fundraising is
>>> ending and who is taking over some things is not clear.  All I know
>>> right now is that it isn't Sally.
>>> 
>>> I just left Uli a v/m.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>> 
 On 2/1/2019 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
  OK,
 
  I was thinking fundraising@ is about the money and the sponsors :)
  Trying to make things right :)
 
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>>> 

Google Summer of Code 2018 Mentor Registration

[Ulrich Stärk]

Dear PMCs,

I'm happy to announce that the ASF has made it onto the list of accepted 
organizations for
Google Summer of Code 2018! [1,2]

It is now time for mentors to sign up, so please pass this email on to your 
community and
podlings. If you aren’t already subscribed to ment...@community.apache.org you 
should do so now else
you might miss important information.

Mentor signup requires two steps: mentor signup in Google's system [3] and PMC 
acknowledgement.

If you want to mentor a project in this year's SoC you will have to

1. Be an Apache committer.
2. Request an acknowledgement from the PMC for which you want to mentor 
projects. Use the below
template and *do not forget to copy ment...@community.apache.org*. We will use 
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indicate to send the invite to be a mentor for Apache.

PMCs, read carefully please.

We request that each mentor is acknowledged by a PMC member. This is to ensure 
the mentor is in good
standing with the community. When you receive a request for acknowledgement, 
please ACK it and cc
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Lastly, it is not yet too late to record your ideas in Jira (see my previous 
emails for details).
Students will now begin to explore ideas so if you haven’t already done so, 
record your ideas
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Cheers,

Uli

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Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] GSoC 2018 Organization Applications due by Jan 23rd!

[Ulrich Stärk]

Still lots of time :). I am finalizing the application, could you help with the 
org profile Maxim?

Cheers,

Uli

On 21.01.18 15:18, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:
> It seems we running out of time .
> @Uli have you applied for ASF? Shall I apply?
> 
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 9:55 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com
> <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Uli,
> 
> have you created Apache profile?
> Or I can do it :)
> 
>     On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:18 AM, Ulrich Stärk <u...@apache.org 
> <mailto:u...@apache.org>> wrote:
> > I happily do it again this year but as always would be happy for any 
> help I can get especially
> with chasing mentors ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Uli
> >
> >> On 13. Jan 2018, at 18:17, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com
> <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Usually Uli was the main org admin.
> >> I can register ASF application 
> >>
> >> @Uli can you please confirm it is OK?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Piergiorgio Lucidi
> >> <piergior...@apache.org <mailto:piergior...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I received this invitation as a mentor for renewing our participation 
> in
> >>> the Google Summer of Code program.
> >>>
> >>> I think that we are interested as usual, is it right?
> >>> Who is in charge for giving the official confirmation by our side?
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know.
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> PJ
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: 'Stephanie Taylor' via Google Summer of Code Mentors Announce 
> List <
> >>> gsoc-mentors-annou...@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:gsoc-mentors-annou...@googlegroups.com>>
> >>> Date: 2018-01-13 0:01 GMT+01:00
> >>> Subject: [GSoC Mentors Announce] GSoC 2018 Organization Applications 
> due by
> >>> Jan 23rd!
> >>> To: Google Summer of Code Mentors Announce List <
> >>> gsoc-mentors-annou...@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:gsoc-mentors-annou...@googlegroups.com>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> If your open source organization is interested in being a mentoring
> >>> organization for Google Summer of Code 2018 please be sure to submit 
> your
> >>> organization's application via g.co/gsoc <http://g.co/gsoc> before 
> January 23rd at 16:00 UTC.
> >>>
> >>> Organizations chosen for GSoC 2018 will be announced on February 12th.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Google Open Source Programs Office
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Piergiorgio Lucidi
> >>> Open Source Evangelist and Enterprise Information Management 
> Specialist
> >>> Mentor / PMC Member / Committer @ Apache Software Foundation
> >>> Community Star / Wiki Gardener / Global Forum Moderator @ Alfresco
> >>> Author and Technical Reviewer @ Packt Publishing
> >>> Technical Advisory Group Member @ Microsoft
> >>> Top Community Contributor @ Crafter
> >>> Project Leader / Committer @ JBoss
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> WBR
> >> Maxim aka solomax
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Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] GSoC 2018 Organization Applications due by Jan 23rd!

[Ulrich Stärk]

I happily do it again this year but as always would be happy for any help I can 
get especially with chasing mentors ;)

Cheers,

Uli

> On 13. Jan 2018, at 18:17, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
> 
> Usually Uli was the main org admin.
> I can register ASF application 
> 
> @Uli can you please confirm it is OK?
> 
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Piergiorgio Lucidi
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I received this invitation as a mentor for renewing our participation in
>> the Google Summer of Code program.
>> 
>> I think that we are interested as usual, is it right?
>> Who is in charge for giving the official confirmation by our side?
>> 
>> Please let me know.
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> PJ
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: 'Stephanie Taylor' via Google Summer of Code Mentors Announce List <
>> gsoc-mentors-annou...@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: 2018-01-13 0:01 GMT+01:00
>> Subject: [GSoC Mentors Announce] GSoC 2018 Organization Applications due by
>> Jan 23rd!
>> To: Google Summer of Code Mentors Announce List <
>> gsoc-mentors-annou...@googlegroups.com>
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> If your open source organization is interested in being a mentoring
>> organization for Google Summer of Code 2018 please be sure to submit your
>> organization's application via g.co/gsoc before January 23rd at 16:00 UTC.
>> 
>> Organizations chosen for GSoC 2018 will be announced on February 12th.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Google Open Source Programs Office
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> Open Source Evangelist and Enterprise Information Management Specialist
>> Mentor / PMC Member / Committer @ Apache Software Foundation
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>> Author and Technical Reviewer @ Packt Publishing
>> Technical Advisory Group Member @ Microsoft
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>> https://www.open4dev.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Promote GSoC on Facebook

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Piergiorgio,

I am not sure I follow you. If I open below mentioned URL and click on
"Contact Email", my mail client opens with the To field properly
populated.

Can you please clarify which behavior you are observing that you think is
incorrect?

Cheers,

Uli

On Tue, March 21, 2017 17:07, Piergiorgio Lucidi wrote:
> Hi Ulrich,
>
> I have found a problem in our page in the GSoC website.
> It seems that trying to send an e-mail message the recipient e-mail
> address
> is not correctly generated.
>
> How could we solve this issue?
>
> Cheers,
> PJ
>
> 2017-03-21 16:17 GMT+01:00 "Ulrich Stärk" <u...@apache.org>:
>
>> Our GSoC organization page:
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5416945173135360/
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> > On Mon, March 20, 2017 09:32, Raphael Bircher wrote:
>> > Hi at all
>> >
>> > There are some students at the ASF Facebook page. So i think, it would
>> be
>> > good to promote GSoC at the site. Is there a link to redirect too?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help
>> >
>> > Regards, Raphael
>> >
>> > --
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Re: Promote GSoC on Facebook

[Ulrich Stärk]

Our GSoC organization page:
https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5416945173135360/

Cheers,

Uli

> On Mon, March 20, 2017 09:32, Raphael Bircher wrote:
> Hi at all
> 
> There are some students at the ASF Facebook page. So i think, it would be
> good to promote GSoC at the site. Is there a link to redirect too?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Regards, Raphael
> 
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Re: Google Summer of Code

[Ulrich Stärk]

Ciao Stefan,

a good starting place can be our ideas list for this year's GSoC:
s.apache.org/gsoc2017ideas

You can also browse our full list of project communities at
http://apache.org/index.html#projects-list and approach the community that
you find most interesting and discuss a potential GSoC project with them.

Cheers,

Uli

> On Sat, March 18, 2017 18:56, Loata, Stefan wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> my name is Stefan Loata. I was born and grown in Italy (Rome) and now I am
> living in the Netherlands
> (Studying in a Liberal Arts and Sciences College of the Utrecht
> University).
> 
> 
> I am in my Second Semester and I am planning to Major in Computer Science,
> Mathematics and Physics, trying possibly to get a Minor in Art History. I
> am working with Java, MySQL (and NoSQL Cassandra), Mathematica (Wolfram)
> and Latex. On my own, I got a basic understanding of Python, Ruby and
> CSS/HTML.
> 
> 
> This would be the first time I work on a so large scale project but I am
> really willing to learn and I will have a lot of time to dedicate to it
> during the summer. I have just started looking at it, cause I had to
> prepare various Midterms.
> 
> I was wondering if you could suggest me on which of the project Ideas I
> could start looking and try to apply, considering my preparation.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Stefan Loata


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Re: GSoC 2017

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Laszlo,

best to get in touch with the OODT community 
http://oodt.apache.org/community.html

Cheers,

Uli

On 11.03.17 18:41, László Karsai wrote:
> Hi there!
> I am Laszlo Karsai from Hungary. I have experience in working with Java,
> Android, bash, python, Javascript, C/C++. Besides these, I have also gained
> experiences in some Apache products (ServiceMix, Karaf, Camel) in every day
> use because in my workplace, I have developed a message distribution system
> for more than one year (part-time job). In this system, we use ActiveMQ to
> handle the message flow. I already started to get familiar with the Kafka
> as well.
> 
> I would happily participate in GSoC 2017 in one of Apache reported
> projects. One of them is really interesting for me which is:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OODT-946. I think I would be able to
> handle it as I have relevant experience. However, I would like to show me
> skills for you. I have already subscribed to the developer mailing list.
> I hope it is not disturbing that I wrote to this email address but I
> thought my question is not development related.
> 
> How can I show you my skills? What do you expect from potential participant
> at this point of GSoC process?
> 
> Thank you for your answer in advance!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Laszlo Karsai
> 

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Google Summer of Code 2017 Mentor Registration

[Ulrich Stärk]

Dear PMCs,

I'm happy to announce that the ASF has made it onto the list of accepted 
organizations for
Google Summer of Code 2017! [1,2]

It is now time for mentors to sign up, so please pass this email on to your 
community and
podlings. If you aren’t already subscribed to ment...@community.apache.org you 
should do so now else
you might miss important information.

Mentor signup requires two steps: mentor signup in Google's system [3] and PMC 
acknowledgement.

If you want to mentor a project in this year's SoC you will have to

1. Be an Apache committer.
2. Request an acknowledgement from the PMC for which you want to mentor 
projects. Use the below
template and *do not forget to copy ment...@community.apache.org*. We will use 
the email adress you
indicate to send the invite to be a mentor for Apache.

PMCs, read carefully please.

We request that each mentor is acknowledged by a PMC member. This is to ensure 
the mentor is in good
standing with the community. When you receive a request for acknowledgement, 
please ACK it and cc
ment...@community.apache.org

Lastly, it is not yet too late to record your ideas in Jira (see my previous 
emails for details).
Students will now begin to explore ideas so if you haven’t already done so, 
record your ideas
immediately!

Cheers,

Uli

mentor request email template:

to: private@.apache.org
cc: ment...@community.apache.org
subject: GSoC 2017 mentor request for 

 PMC,

please acknowledge my request to become a mentor for Google Summer of Code 2017 
projects for Apache
.

I would like to receive the mentor invite to 





[1] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/
[2] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5416945173135360/
[3] https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/

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GSoC 2017?

[Ulrich Stärk]

Time flies and I still haven't gotten around to conducting the survey on
GSoC. The application period for 2017 has already started and we need to
apply before Feb 9. I will conduct a quick gathering of opinions on
mentors@ but would like to also have opinions from the wider community.

Should we apply this year or do people have reservations (e.g. not
worthwhile our volunteer energy for the benefits gained)?

Cheers,

Uli


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Re: Results: ASF Committer Diversity Survey

[Ulrich Stärk]

On Tue, December 20, 2016 17:11, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
> On 12/19/2016 08:36 AM, Sharan F wrote:
>> Hello Everyone
>>
>> A big thank you to everyone that has helped or participated in getting
>> the Committer Diversity Survey out, and also to all the committers that
>> responded to the survey. It has been really good to be able to collect
>> this information and see what it tells us about our committer base.
>>
>> I've loaded the main data and graphs from the survey onto the Community
>> Development wiki (see link below)
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF+Committer+Diversity+Survey+-+2016
>>
>>
>> In total we received 765 responses (out of a 5861 committer base at the
>> time the survey was run) so around a 13% response rate.
>
> It would be useful to pursue Niclas' assertion that most of our
> registered committers are inactive. I'd think that if we define
> "inactive" in some measurable way, we could determine some actual
> numbers around that.

Since everything these days is going through LDAP it should be possible to
get e.g. last login timestamp. Maybe reach out to infra?

>
> Either way, though, given how anti-survey we have been in the past, 13%
> actually sounds like a pretty good response rate to me.
>
>> We also got 111 feedback comments of which 29 did not give their
>> permission to share or from quote their comments.
>>
>> I've categorised all the comments into various themes / topics with the
>> main ones as follows:
>>
>> 1. Suggestions for improvements within the ASF
>
> I look forward to seeing these. I hope that we have some things in there
> that are actionable, and that we can find volunteers to participate in.
>
> Most of the conversations that I've had with people that have led
> diversity efforts in other open source communities answer "what worked?"
> with "lots and lots of hard work, for a really long time."
>
> So, thanks so much for getting this process started again. It's long
> overdue, and we appreciate your hard work here.
>
>
>> 2. Suggestions for improvements to the survey (or any future ones)
>> 3. Thanks / positive feedback about the ASF and/or survey
>> 4. Feedback and ideas around diversity
>>
>> Next steps will be:
>>
>>  * Continue to analyse the information and identify any potential
>>Community Development related actions
>>  * Start discussion threads on the various themes and topics raised to
>>see if they will result in additional actions
>>  * Discuss feedback and diversity ideas and if necessary, integrate
>>into diversity strategy
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
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Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 07.12.16 16:18, Peter Hunsberger wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I guess I'm done talking. I'm going to do some things. Folks can play
>>> along if they want, but I'm apparently terrible at talking about it. So
>>> I'll just do.
>>
>> Big +1.
> 
> This thread has been pretty confusing from what I know of "the Apache way";
> if someone wants to do something constructive they should be encouraged to
> do it.  The thought that collecting metrics could somehow harm Comdev is
> absurd.  People misusing the collected data might be a problem, but that's
> a separate problem that can be addressed one there is some actual data to
> look at.
> 

Let's try to close pandora's box once we have opened it. Now _that_ is absurd.

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Re: What's the plan? What are we here for?

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Rich

On 05.12.16 18:54, Rich Bowen wrote:
> As has been discussed elsewhere, we don't have a clear idea of what
> we're here for. I believe we need to fix that.

Agreed.

> 
> Why This Matters
> 
> 1) So that we know how to ask for help
> 
> This matters because people *flock* to us saying "I want to help", and
> in pretty much every case our response is "Great! Help! We love you!"
> This is great, but utterly unhelpful.
> 
> Once we have a clear idea of what goals we are working towards, we will
> have a better idea of how to tell people to help us.
> 
> When people come to volunteer to help, we need to know what to tell them
> that they can do, and those things need to come out of an understanding
> of what we're trying to accomplish.
> 
> At the moment, we're doing a number of things. Most of them, we have no
> idea whether they help. I assert that this is primarily because "help"
> is undefined. Help with *what*?
> 
> 2) So that we know whether we're doing it
> 
> Once we define what it is that we are trying to accomplish, we will be
> better able to measure the things that we are doing, to determine in
> some objective way whether they are moving us towards those goals.

As stated before I am no fan of measuring. Let's create transparency first and 
see where we stand
before jumping on an arbitrary metric.

> 
> I realize that "community development" is an endless road. But we should
> at least know which direction we're walking on that road.
> 
> 3) Because we owe the board a report every quarter
> 
> We're supposed to report to the board every quarter telling them how we
> are doing on achieving the goals that they created us to pursue. Except
> that we don't know what those goals are.

The goals as stated in the ComDev resolution [1] are indeed pretty fuzzy 
("responsible for helping
people become involved with Apache projects") and I believe deliberately so. 
ComDev in the past saw
itself as a loose group of people doing "community building stuff" in one way 
or the other.

> 
> So, we engage in various efforts which may or may not do anything. Some,
> like GSoC, are noble, and clearly benefit one audience (the students
> that participate), and *might* benefit projects. Sounds like it does,
> based on the most recent responses on $otherthread. Awesome. But do they
> advance "community development". Hard to say before we define that.
> 

Agreed. If we want to pursue a more active role we first need to decide what 
community development
even means in the context of the ASF.

> 
> So, What's The Plan
> 
> As a full-time community manager, I have a definition of community
> development that appears on my annual performance review. I think it's
> fine for us, as a PMC in the most important open source organization on
> the planet, to have a similar level of rigor.
> 
> Here's some of the things that fall under this header, and which I
> believe should be part of our definition as the ComDev PMC - things that
> we should work towards, and measure every effort against.
> 
> * Increase community diversity. Identify projects that are monocultures
> (or near to them) and help them actively pursue broader community diversity.
> 
> * Develop tools (documentation, training materials, and software tools)
> that projects can use to promote themselves and attract new
> participants. (Participants is a very broad term here, and does not
> refer only to code jockeys.)
> 
> * Educate projects on the Apache Way, so that they can more richly
> experience the organization that they have attached themselves to.
> Identify projects that appear to be operating outside of the Apache Way,
> and gently, kindly, lead them back to the light.
> 
> * Strengthen the bonds between projects and the larger Foundation.
> Defining this is a whole other thread, but means several things to me.
> Identify projects that are satellites and build ties back to the
> "family", in terms of participating in events, participating in
> governance discussions, having adequate membership representation on the
> PMC, and so on.
> 
> * It's not about marketing, but we should be working very closely with
> marketing (press@) to promote what our projects are doing, and promote
> the idea of the ASF as a place where innovation happens, thus drawing in
> an engaged and excited participant community.
> 
> * Internal promotion and cheerleading. Marketing is outward facing.
> Community development is somewhat inward facing. Many of our projects
> have no idea what other projects are doing, and don't care. Doing a
> degree of internal cheerleading, along with the education, is critical
> for building exprit de corps.

All excellent points. I like Alex' categorization into goals, strategies and 
plans and would like us
to focus on goals first. Given Bertrands input should we start writing this up 
in a charter for
discussion?

Cheers,

Uli

[1] 
http://apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2009/board_minutes_2009_11_01.txt

Re: proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

[Ulrich Stärk]

Thanks for the feedback Shane!

On 06.12.16 14:09, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> Ulrich Stärk wrote on 12/6/16 3:59 AM:
>> Hi ComDev community,
>>
>> since I believe that measuring two data points only to measure the success 
>> of programs like GSoC in
>> building communities is going to do more harm than good, I want to propose a 
>> post-mortem survey that
>> hopefully captures a more complete picture. Here is my first proposal, let's 
>> discuss.
> 
> This sounds like an excellent addition to our already excellent GSoC
> efforts!
> 
> Separately, are we allowed to (by GSoC rules), and would it be
> practical, to do a short survey for exiting GSoC *students*, or even for
> last year's students?  Along with capturing some data, it feels like it
> would be a good way for the ASF to try to maintain a relationship with
> the student (if they want to; if they ignore us that's fine too).

Unfortunately it seems like Google decided to take offline all historical data. 
I cannot access any
of the past (that includes 2016) student data anymore. All we have is student 
names from the scoring
spreadsheets for 2013-2016.

> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> *DRAFT*
>>
>> Please specify the name of the student you mentored (free text)
> Why don't we ask for Apache ID?  That way we could do commit analysis if
> we wanted to.

Not all students became committers so not all of the have an Apache ID. We 
could ask that further
down together with the "was the student voted in" question.

> 
>>
>> Do *you* consider GSoC 2016 a success for your project? (yes/no)
>>
>> Why or why not? (free text)
> 
> For several questions: Should we try to capture somewhat structured
> data, instead of boolean/free text?  I'd suggest the "success" use
> Likert scale or some similar degree question instead of boolean.
> 
> "Why or why not?" could be two questions: a "type" and then a free text:
> - Why was this valuable?
> -- Added new module/functionality to your project
> -- Added useful new code to your project
> -- Spurred useful discussion about new code
> -- Added useful documentation, tests, or other things
> -- Created proof of concept that helped move project forward
> ...Or some general areas that might be helpful.

Good push.

> 
>> Do you feel your time spent was worth it? (very high value for time 
>> spent:very low value for time spent)
>>
>> Did the student stick around after GSoC concluded? (yes and still is, yes 
>> briefly, no)
>>
>> Has the student been voted in as a committer or PMC member (yes/no)
>>
>> Does the student's code live on? (as a separate module, as part of the 
>> project's codebase, no, other
>> - please specify)
>>
>> Should we continue participating in GSoC on a foundation level? (yes/no)
> Definitely make this one an agreement scale, not boolean.

What would the scale look like and what would an agreement level of e.g. 3 on a 
1-5 scale mean?

Cheers,

Uli

> 
>>
>> If no, why not?
>>
>> Would you mentor a GSoC student again? (yes, no, under the following 
>> circumstances - please specify)
>>
>> Please specify your Apache ID if you would be willing to discuss your 
>> answers further. (free text)
> 
> Thanks, excellent way to structure the survey.
> 
> - Shane
> 
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Re: proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 07.12.16 10:26, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi Uli,
> 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Ulrich Stärk <u...@apache.org> wrote:
>> ...I want to propose a post-mortem survey that
>> hopefully captures a more complete picture
> 
> Instead of a survey, how about asking GsoC mentors to send a note here
> about their GSoC success or failure story? We can send them your list
> of questions as a guide, but IMO if we get stories that's more
> powerful.
> 
> We can also point them to our private list if they really have
> sensitive stuff to report,

I saw this as a middle ground between Rich's position of having easy to digest 
data and mine aimed
at getting a as complete as possible picture.

Also I think that filling out a survey might appeal to more folks than writing 
up a lengthy story.

Cheers,

Uli

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proposal for a GSoC post-mortem survey

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi ComDev community,

since I believe that measuring two data points only to measure the success of 
programs like GSoC in
building communities is going to do more harm than good, I want to propose a 
post-mortem survey that
hopefully captures a more complete picture. Here is my first proposal, let's 
discuss.

Cheers,

Uli

*DRAFT*

Please specify the name of the student you mentored (free text)

Do *you* consider GSoC 2016 a success for your project? (yes/no)

Why or why not? (free text)

Do you feel your time spent was worth it? (very high value for time spent:very 
low value for time spent)

Did the student stick around after GSoC concluded? (yes and still is, yes 
briefly, no)

Has the student been voted in as a committer or PMC member (yes/no)

Does the student's code live on? (as a separate module, as part of the 
project's codebase, no, other
- please specify)

Should we continue participating in GSoC on a foundation level? (yes/no)

If no, why not?

Would you mentor a GSoC student again? (yes, no, under the following 
circumstances - please specify)

Please specify your Apache ID if you would be willing to discuss your answers 
further. (free text)

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Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 05.12.16 22:24, Rich Bowen wrote:
> So ... stepping back a bit here. Are you saying that even attempting to
> measure outcomes is harmful, because we might draw the wrong conclusions?
> 
> This is a completely new notion to me.
> 
> You say:
> 
> "I am reluctant to simply collect some data because I am missing a clear
> question what we are trying to answer and how the data you want to
> collect is actually answering that question."
> 
> I do have a clear question. My question is whether participating in the
> GSoC contributes to our goal of Community Development. Does it develop
> our community in any measurable way? I assume, at this point, that it
> does, or we wouldn't keep doing it. In what way has it had measurable
> impact on our community?
> 
> Things that we can clearly measure is adding participants in our project
> communities, and artifacts added to our projects' revision control
> repositories. Measuring other things is more difficult, and can be taken
> as a later task. Easy things first.

And here is what I'm afraid of: By focusing on those two simple dimensions only 
we will from my
experience end up with a pretty skewed result. The dimensions you propose don't 
cover code living on
outside our repositories as add-on modules, they don't cover indirect 
contributions, etc.

> 
> The larger question of how and what we measure in the Community
> Development PMC as a whole hinges on this, too. I'm curious if you're
> resistant to that, too?

I am resistant to what you are proposing to measure. I am resistant to 
simplifying metrics. Those
tend to do more harm than good.

Uli

> 
> --Rich
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/05/2016 04:00 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>> On 05.12.16 17:54, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/05/2016 07:41 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>>>>> Or, at the very least, can we make a commitment to track this data going
>>>>>> forward?
>>>> Let me play the devil's advocate here: What for?
>>>>
>>>> GSoC is completely free for the ASF (on the contrary, we even get a small 
>>>> amount for every accepted
>>>> student that we can than put towards fulfilling our goals) and as long as 
>>>> we have volunteers willing
>>>> to organize it and mentor students we can assume that at least those 
>>>> volunteers are seeing value in
>>>> it. Why the stats other than for satisfying our curiosity?
>>>
>>> Or, perhaps, let me give a different answer.
>>>
>>> I participated in GSoC as a mentor for $WorkProject. While it didn't
>>> "cost" me anything in dollars, it cost me probably 200 hours of my time.
>>> I know that other projects at work put more time in, and some less.
>>>
>>> This is an enormous cost to me, as an employee. So it behooves me to
>>> measure the benefit to the project. A student received payment to write
>>> code that was discarded. And I (and several of my colleagues) spent a
>>> huge amount of time, which I could have spent on other things, mentoring
>>> that student. Benefit to project, pretty heavily negative.
>>
>> In that case you should have failed the student pretty early as I tell 
>> mentors every year and as
>> documented in the mentor guide.
>>
>>>
>>> So, now, here we are at the ASF, doing GSoC with our projects, and
>>> promoting it to them as a benefit. Does it actually benefit them, or is
>>> it merely siphoning off time that could be spent on other things.
>>
>> If a mentor feels it is the latter, they should immediately fail the student.
>>
>>>
>>> To folks that say we can't measure that, I strongly disagree. There are
>>> two measures that are obvious and easy.
>>>
>>> 1) What % of GSoC student are still active on the project 6 months, 12
>>> months, 18 months after the project. (We can debate the definition of
>>> "active" all you like.
>>
>> This implies that the program is only successful if a certain number of 
>> students sticks around. And
>> this is exactly what I'm arguing against. IMO the program is successful as 
>> soon as a student has
>> some exposure to one of our communities.
>>
>>>
>>> 2) What % of code developed by GSoC students actually becomes a part of
>>> the project codebase at the end of the project?
>>
>> This has the same problems as trying to measure productivity from code. What 
>> is the percentage
>> telling us about the question we want to answer? Also see above: If the code 
>> cannot be part of th

Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 05.12.16 17:54, Rich Bowen wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/05/2016 07:41 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>>> Or, at the very least, can we make a commitment to track this data going
>>>> forward?
>> Let me play the devil's advocate here: What for?
>>
>> GSoC is completely free for the ASF (on the contrary, we even get a small 
>> amount for every accepted
>> student that we can than put towards fulfilling our goals) and as long as we 
>> have volunteers willing
>> to organize it and mentor students we can assume that at least those 
>> volunteers are seeing value in
>> it. Why the stats other than for satisfying our curiosity?
> 
> Or, perhaps, let me give a different answer.
> 
> I participated in GSoC as a mentor for $WorkProject. While it didn't
> "cost" me anything in dollars, it cost me probably 200 hours of my time.
> I know that other projects at work put more time in, and some less.
> 
> This is an enormous cost to me, as an employee. So it behooves me to
> measure the benefit to the project. A student received payment to write
> code that was discarded. And I (and several of my colleagues) spent a
> huge amount of time, which I could have spent on other things, mentoring
> that student. Benefit to project, pretty heavily negative.

In that case you should have failed the student pretty early as I tell mentors 
every year and as
documented in the mentor guide.

> 
> So, now, here we are at the ASF, doing GSoC with our projects, and
> promoting it to them as a benefit. Does it actually benefit them, or is
> it merely siphoning off time that could be spent on other things.

If a mentor feels it is the latter, they should immediately fail the student.

> 
> To folks that say we can't measure that, I strongly disagree. There are
> two measures that are obvious and easy.
> 
> 1) What % of GSoC student are still active on the project 6 months, 12
> months, 18 months after the project. (We can debate the definition of
> "active" all you like.

This implies that the program is only successful if a certain number of 
students sticks around. And
this is exactly what I'm arguing against. IMO the program is successful as soon 
as a student has
some exposure to one of our communities.

> 
> 2) What % of code developed by GSoC students actually becomes a part of
> the project codebase at the end of the project?

This has the same problems as trying to measure productivity from code. What is 
the percentage
telling us about the question we want to answer? Also see above: If the code 
cannot be part of the
project codebase the student should be failed.

> 
> I would maintain that #1 is part of our charter as ComDev, and #2 is
> part of what projects should be made aware of before they sign on.
> 
> Again, I'm really not asking for a lot of data here. But I do think that
> it's part of a responsible accounting for participating in GSoC. If, for
> example, it is actually hindering projects, don't we want to know that.
> 
> I did *not* participate in GSoC again, on $WorkProject, because it
> clearly hindered my project.
> 
> 

I am reluctant to simply collect some data because I am missing a clear 
question what we are trying
to answer and how the data you want to collect is actually answering that 
question.

Cheers,

Uli

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Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 05.12.16 14:30, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 12/05/2016 01:41 PM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>> On 03.12.16 23:16, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>> So, this question was asked several weeks ago, and, so far, we have no
>>> statistics. I wonder if, now that there appears to be some interest
>>> around GSoC 2017 starting up, someone could look back at their notes and
>>> answer some of these questions.
>>>
>>> While it's cool that folks are spending time on GSoC, for the sake of
>>> GSoC, and of the students, it would also be awesome to know whether the
>>> time and money that the ASF puts into this is actually doing something
>>> towards the stated goal of Community Development.
>>>
>>> Or, at the very least, can we make a commitment to track this data going
>>> forward?
>>
>> Let me play the devil's advocate here: What for?
>>
>> GSoC is completely free for the ASF (on the contrary, we even get a small 
>> amount for every accepted
>> student that we can than put towards fulfilling our goals) and as long as we 
>> have volunteers willing
>> to organize it and mentor students we can assume that at least those 
>> volunteers are seeing value in
>> it. Why the stats other than for satisfying our curiosity?
> 
> Let's flip that around: If the ASF doesn't benefit in any way from this,
> why are we bothering with it? why is it the prominent (and in many cases
> the _only_) thing in our board reports?

I don't get this logic. Can you explain why the ASF isn't benefitting? 
Apparently our communities
are, otherwise we wouldn't see mentors willing to mentor students, no?

> 
> Going back a few reports (those that are public at this date), they all
> seem to be either about starting, doing or concluding (which we have no
> data on) GSoC and then perhaps a small bit of extra data on all the
> rest. It is a VERY prominent thing, so why is that so?

Because apart from GSoC we don't seem to do any other structured efforts to 
report on. If there has
been something noteworthy, it was in the reports (e.g. helpwanted, diversity 
efforts, etc.).
Sharan's diversity efforts are a the closest thing to a new structured effort. 
Her extensive report
was included in our last board report.

> 
> The task of ComDev is developing community. If we don't have any data or
> interest in acquiring such to show that this is in fact helping towards
> that, then we should consider whether the current strategy is the right
> thing to focus on.

Again. I strongly believe that there is no suitable metric for answering these 
kind of questions
except for indirectly through demand and I yet need to be convinced of the 
contrary.

> 
> But this goes beyond GSoC in my mind. We should be looking at ALL ComDev
> projects and evaluate what we want to keep, what isn't working, and what
> needs a do-over. The task of ComDev is to *develop communities*, it
> shouldn't just be a dumping ground for all things cross-project, whether
> they work or not. That is at least my opinion.
> 
> We try strategies, give them life, see if they work, and if not, we put
> them to sleep or fix them.

Geez, we are not maximizing for efficiency here (and that coming from a 
management consultant, how
ironic).

Let me take GSoC as an example again. As long as we have volunteer mentors from 
our communities that
want to mentor students working on their projects than we IMO don't need any 
additional metric or a
certain level of usefulness to justify running the program. Our communities 
think it is important -
otherwise they wouldn't invest the time -, so should we.

Thinking this further we have already won when a student applies. They have 
interacted with the
community, used the code, read documentation, maybe even already fixed some bug 
along the way. IMO
that is also an important part of the community building. If a student sticks 
around than that is
simply the icing on the cake and no metric whatsoever for the success of the 
program.

Cheers,

Uli

> 
> With regards,
> Daniel.
> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>>>
>>> --Rich
>>>
>>> On 11/16/2016 05:18 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>>> It would be great to have some kind of statistics on how GSoC helps
>>>>> projects longer term. Do students stick around? Does the code written
>>>>> actually get incorporated into releases? Does it in fact contribute to
>>>>> the mission of Community Development, or is it just a nice summer job
>>>>> for these students?
>>>>
>>>> Do we have a list (maybe somewhere in the comdev private svn?) of
>>>> everyone who has taken

Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 03.12.16 23:16, Rich Bowen wrote:
> So, this question was asked several weeks ago, and, so far, we have no
> statistics. I wonder if, now that there appears to be some interest
> around GSoC 2017 starting up, someone could look back at their notes and
> answer some of these questions.
> 
> While it's cool that folks are spending time on GSoC, for the sake of
> GSoC, and of the students, it would also be awesome to know whether the
> time and money that the ASF puts into this is actually doing something
> towards the stated goal of Community Development.
> 
> Or, at the very least, can we make a commitment to track this data going
> forward?

Let me play the devil's advocate here: What for?

GSoC is completely free for the ASF (on the contrary, we even get a small 
amount for every accepted
student that we can than put towards fulfilling our goals) and as long as we 
have volunteers willing
to organize it and mentor students we can assume that at least those volunteers 
are seeing value in
it. Why the stats other than for satisfying our curiosity?

Cheers,

Uli

> 
> --Rich
> 
> On 11/16/2016 05:18 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>> It would be great to have some kind of statistics on how GSoC helps
>>> projects longer term. Do students stick around? Does the code written
>>> actually get incorporated into releases? Does it in fact contribute to
>>> the mission of Community Development, or is it just a nice summer job
>>> for these students?
>>
>> Do we have a list (maybe somewhere in the comdev private svn?) of
>> everyone who has taken part in GSoC?
>>
>> If so, it'd be fairly easy to annotate that with apache IDs, then see
>> who's now on PMCs or who's now a member. Producing sharable statistics
>> from that automatically is then easy. (I say this as someone who helped
>> update the similar Travel Assistance Committee / TAC ones on Monday!)
>>
>> Not sure if it's easy to find out the "last commit date" for people, to
>> check for the "still around" part (eg for people who got committership
>> during GSoc, maybe on a branch), but I know where infra are to ask...
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> PS FWIW, within Tika we've certainly had a few GSoC people stick around!
>>
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Re: Does GSoC help develop communities?

[Ulrich Stärk]

What money are we putting into this?

Cheers,

Uli

On 03.12.16 23:16, Rich Bowen wrote:
> So, this question was asked several weeks ago, and, so far, we have no
> statistics. I wonder if, now that there appears to be some interest
> around GSoC 2017 starting up, someone could look back at their notes and
> answer some of these questions.
> 
> While it's cool that folks are spending time on GSoC, for the sake of
> GSoC, and of the students, it would also be awesome to know whether the
> time and money that the ASF puts into this is actually doing something
> towards the stated goal of Community Development.
> 
> Or, at the very least, can we make a commitment to track this data going
> forward?
> 
> --Rich
> 
> On 11/16/2016 05:18 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Nov 2016, Rich Bowen wrote:
>>> It would be great to have some kind of statistics on how GSoC helps
>>> projects longer term. Do students stick around? Does the code written
>>> actually get incorporated into releases? Does it in fact contribute to
>>> the mission of Community Development, or is it just a nice summer job
>>> for these students?
>>
>> Do we have a list (maybe somewhere in the comdev private svn?) of
>> everyone who has taken part in GSoC?
>>
>> If so, it'd be fairly easy to annotate that with apache IDs, then see
>> who's now on PMCs or who's now a member. Producing sharable statistics
>> from that automatically is then easy. (I say this as someone who helped
>> update the similar Travel Assistance Committee / TAC ones on Monday!)
>>
>> Not sure if it's easy to find out the "last commit date" for people, to
>> check for the "still around" part (eg for people who got committership
>> during GSoc, maybe on a branch), but I know where infra are to ask...
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> PS FWIW, within Tika we've certainly had a few GSoC people stick around!
>>
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Re: ASF for Google Code-In

[Ulrich Stärk]

I'm happy to sign it as V.P. Community Development once V.P. Legal
greenlights. Also happy to put you into contact with the people at Google
driving the program to discuss the terms and ask for a deadline extension.

Participation was discussed here a few times already but it never reached
a critical mass driving it further. So if you Roman and Mark want to drive
it I'm happy to support on the administrative parts.

Cheers,

Uli

On Tue, November 1, 2016 00:19, Mark Thomas wrote:
> On 31/10/2016 22:53, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> thanks for the positive feedback. As Mark said -- time is tight
>> so please respond to the following ASAP.
>>
>> I went through the registration process on behalf of ASF and
>> two statements stood out:
>>1. Google is asking whether we'd be comfortable supplying
>> ~200 small'ish tasks. I think we are.
>
> We should be able to do that.
>
>> 2. There's an Organization Agreement that I'm expected to click
>> through. I'm attaching it bellow. It looks pretty bare bones to me,
>> but if anything jumps at you -- please let me know ASAP.
>
> Two issues jump out at me.
>
> You don't have the authority to sign it. You need to be an officer of
> the foundation to do that and as I recall you aren't currently a V.P..
>
> I'm not comfortable with the Indemnities section. Our liability to
> Google is unlimited with no control over the expenses that Google could
> rack up. There are various scenarios that are well within the bounds of
> possibility that could trigger a liability for us. That exposes that ASF
> to a massive potential risk.
>
> Google's liability to us is limited to a mere $1,000.
>
> Putting on my director hat, V.P. Legal (Bcc'd) needs to sign off on this
> before anyone commits the ASF to this agreement.
>
>> 3. They don't allow for aliases -- and are asking for Google
>> account.
>> I'm volunteering my own.
>
> No objections to that.
>
>> All in all, I plan to complete the submission in 48 hours.
>
> Given the concerns above, I'm unsure we'll be in a position to sign this
> in that timeframe.
>
> Mark
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
>> GOOGLE CODE-IN 2016
>> MENTOR ORGANIZATION AGREEMENT
>>
>> PLEASE READ THIS MENTOR ORGANIZATION AGREEMENT CAREFULLY.
>>
>> By registering and clicking “I have read and agree to this
>> Organization Agreement” you agree to be bound by the terms of this
>> Mentor Organization Agreement (“Agreement”) and it forms a binding
>> legal agreement between Google Inc., having a principal place of
>> business at 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043
>> (“Google”), and your open source organization (“Organization”) with
>> respect to the Google Code-in 2016 Contest (“Contest”).
>>
>> If you are accepting on behalf of your Organization, you represent and
>> warrant that (i) you have full legal authority to bind your
>> Organization to these terms and conditions, (ii) that you have read
>> and understand this Agreement, and (iii) that you agree, on behalf of
>> the Organization that you represent, to this Agreement. If you don't
>> have the legal authority to bind your Organization to these terms and
>> conditions, please do not click the "I have read and agree to this
>> Organization Agreement" checkbox.
>>
>> The words "include" and "including" as used in this Agreement mean
>> “including but not limited to.”
>>
>>  Registration.
>>
>>  Eligibility for Participation. By registering to be a mentor
>> organization in the Contest, the Organization represents and warrants
>> that:
>>
>> it is running an active and viable open source or free software
>> organization;
>> it has already produced and released software under an Open Source
>> Initiative approved license;
>> it is not based in a United States embargoed country, or otherwise
>> prohibited by applicable export controls and sanctions programs; and
>> if the Organization is an individual,
>>
>> you are not a resident of a United States embargoed country;
>> you are not ordinarily resident in a United States embargoed country,
>> or otherwise prohibited by applicable export controls and sanctions
>> programs; and
>> you are at least eighteen (18) years of age; and
>>
>> it participated in Google Summer of Code previously.
>>
>> Verifying Eligibility. Google reserves the right to verify eligibility
>> at any time. The Organization agrees to provide Google with any proof
>> of eligibility requested by Google and refusal or failure to timely
>> provide such proof may result in the Organization’s removal from the
>> Contest.
>> Application. As part of the registration process, the Organization
>> must fill out an application to become a mentor organization by the
>> deadline stated on the Contest website. Google may accept or reject
>> any application in its sole discretion.
>> Tax Forms. Google may provide tax forms to the Organization and
>> instructions for sending the completed forms to Google. The
>> Organization’s application will not be complete unless 

Re: Updating our New Committer template page - need permissions

[Ulrich Stärk]

The ComDev SVN repo and thus the whole website is open for any committer to 
write to. Only the final
act of publishing requires ComDev committership. So please continue submitting 
changes!

Cheers,

Uli

On 27/08/16 18:57, Joan Touzet wrote:
> Sure, may I request committer status in that case? :) Someone else
> ended up approving and publishing these changes.
> 
> -Joan
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Shane Curcuru" 
>> To: dev@community.apache.org
>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:18:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: Updating our New Committer template page - need permissions
>>
>> +1, change looks good.  There are always areas in ComDev that can use
>> editorial improvements if you've got some more time...  8-)
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>> (Both emails came thru BTW)
>>
>> Joan Touzet wrote on 8/26/16 8:13 PM:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Based on a discussion with other ASF members about improving our
>>> new committer templates and guidelines, I tried to commit a change
>>> to this page: https://community.apache.org/newcommitter.html
>>>
>>> Apparently I do not have permissions to publish the change to the
>>> public. You can view the diff I made here:
>>> http://svn.apache.org/r1757932
>>>
>>> Would anyone here who has the appropriate authority be willing to
>>> publish this change on my behalf, or grant me the karma necessary
>>> to publish the change? I'd greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joan
>>
>>
>>
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Re: GSoc Mentoring

[Ulrich Stärk]

Maxim already replied to you.

Adding to what he said GSoC is long underway, proposals have been selected and 
mentors assigned.

Or are you merely asking to be added as an additional mentor to an accepted 
proposal?

Cheers,

Uli

> Am 10.05.2016 um 13:37 schrieb Vasudevan, Ramkrishna S 
> :
> 
> Hi All
>  
> Resending for any reply over here?
>  
> Regards
> Ram
>  
> From: Vasudevan, Ramkrishna S 
> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 9:45 AM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: u...@apache.org
> Subject: GSoc Mentoring
>  
> Hi
>  
> I am part of the Apache Phoenix PMC. I had already done mentoring for GSoc 
> 2015 and I had also signed up for mentoring for this years GSOC.
> I had even got the acknowledgement mail from the Phoneix PMC.
>  
> Since I had been on paternity leave for the last few weeks I could not keep 
> track of the updates and hence I am writing here now.
>  
> I would like to primary mentor for Alexander Boruchinkin.  Is there any way 
> that I could be added as his primary mentor? I would like to help him during 
> this GSoC tenure.
>  
>  
> Regards
> Ram

Re: Advice for community participation to lower tension

[Ulrich Stärk]

Thanks Niclas!

Any chance you can find the time to put this up at community.apache.org?

Cheers,

Uli

On 09/04/16 03:50, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> Everyone,
> recently there was some tension/friction in a community, and I posted the
> following advice to everyone to better get along. Not only did the
> community members responded positively, but I also got pinged privately to
> make this available publicly, so here it is, and I will let the wider
> community do with it what it sees fit...
> 
> 
> First a few general guidelines;
>   a. Assume that the other party agrees more than disagrees with you. We
> tend to leave out agreements and focus on differences. Sometime this is
> forgotten and escalation becomes absurd for no rational reason.
> 
>   b. When in doubt, assume that you are interpreting the message wrongly
> and kindly ask for verification that you understood a particular topic well.
> 
>   c. When writing, assume that every sentence will be misinterpreted.
> Review and try to reformulate to be as clear as possible.
> 
>   d. Use a submissive tone in all writing. Instead of the strong "In my
> opinion, we must..." or the quite neutral "I think we should...", try to
> use "Maybe we should consider..." or "Another idea that we could..."
> 
>e. If you disagree strongly with an email sent, tag it Important, then
> put it aside. Read it half a day later again. Put it aside. Read it again
> next day, and then it is easier to write a balanced and inviting response,
> instead of the initial vitriol that flows through us when we get upset. I
> found that sometimes a response wouldn't be necessary, as the importance
> was actually much lower than originally perceived, and I would be able to
> work "with", instead of "against", a given change.
> 
>   f. Be forgiving and accept different priorities. The other person is not
> out to get you or attack your work. More often than not, it is one of the
> above (a-d) that are failing, or that the other person prioritize some
> aspect higher than you do. Sometimes, this requires compromises, sometimes
> not and the different priorities can co-exist.
> 
> 
> Most communities at Apache consists of level-headed, reasonable people, who
> have a strong vested interest in its Apache project. This interest, often
> passion, is both the source of tension, but it is also what unites the
> people within the community. It is easy to forget the vast amount of
> agreement that exists, and get upset over relatively small disagreements.
> Ability to put that aside, or downplay the importance, will ensure a
> harmonious project.
> 
> Face-to-Face is excellent way to eliminate disagreements, but that is often
> not practical. Consider Skype or Google Hangout, just for the social aspect
> of being part of this community. It should not be formal, and the
> invitation should go out to everyone, perhaps someone want to make a short
> presentation of what he/she is doing, to have some "structure", but that
> might not be needed either. Once we have a face to the words, and a general
> idea how that person is socially, we are much more capable to interact by
> email.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 

Re: Localizing + blogging about ComDev to encourage regional participation

[Ulrich Stärk]

Currently on vacation, will reply when I'm back next week.

Cheers,

Uli

On 13/03/16 17:55, Sally Khudairi wrote:
> Hi everyone --a quick re-ping. Any ideas on how we may be able to proceed?
> 
> Many kind thanks in advance,
> Sally
>  
> = = = = = 
> vox +1 617 921 8656
> gvox +1 646 598 4616
> skype sallykhudairi
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Melissa Warnkin <missywarn...@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org>; Ulrich Stärk 
> <u...@apache.org>; Sally
> Khudairi <s...@apache.org>
> *Cc:* Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com>; Rich Bowen 
> <rbo...@rcbowen.com>; David Nalley
> <da...@gnsa.us>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 9, 2016 4:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Localizing + blogging about ComDev to encourage regional 
> participation
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> IDK if it would be helpful or not, but one of our TACers from Budapest is 
> from China and very eager
> to help support the ASF in anyway.
> 
> Please let me know if you would like his assistance, and I can make the 
> introductions.
> 
> ~M
> 
> 
> 
> *From:* Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org>
> *To:* Ulrich Stärk <u...@apache.org>; ComDev <dev@community.apache.org>
> *Cc:* Ross Gardler <ross.gard...@microsoft.com>; Rich Bowen 
> <rbo...@rcbowen.com>; David Nalley
> <da...@gnsa.us>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 9, 2016 3:48 PM
> *Subject:* Localizing + blogging about ComDev to encourage regional 
> participation
> 
> Hello Uli + team ComDev --I hope you are all well.
> 
> A quick heads-up that I was contacted by Luke Han [1], who is seeking to find 
> ways to help him
> spread the word about Apache in China.
> 
> I pointed him to the ComDev pages, and he's interested in translating them, 
> as well as possibly
> posting some entries on blogs.apache.org that can serve as resources for the 
> region (and elsewhere
> as appropriate).
> 
> So my questions are:
> 
> 1) any objections to the translation of http://community.apache.org/
> 
> 2) I presume we'll work with Infra to have a link to the localized pages 
> (IIRC,
> https://translate.apache.org/may be terminated/discontinued?)
> 
> 3) if the above is acceptable, are you OK with specific, non-English, blog 
> entries being posted
> about the concepts/topics in community.apache.org?
> 
> Thanks so much for this!
> 
> -Sally
> 
> 
> [1]  VP, Apache Kylin
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces85
> 
> 
> + copying Ross, Rich, and David on this to close the loop on some informal 
> communications on this.
> = = = = = 
> vox +1 617 921 8656
> gvox +1 646 598 4616
> skype sallykhudairi
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Google's Summer of Code

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hmm, I must have missed that.

It would be great if you could write PMCs to to start collecting ideas and mark 
them in JIRA, you
can probably reuse my emails from last year. I will create the application in 
the meantime.

Cheers,

Uli

On 04.02.16 03:23, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> The window for mentor organizations to apply for Google's
> Summer of Code 2016 opens on Monday, February 8th.
> Is there anybody who's planning to take care of ASF as
> an org and follow up with the projects?
> 
> Thanks,
> Roman.
> 

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

[Ulrich Stärk]

You can't generalize from a single sample.

I see the pattern of email addresses with varying amounts of numbers in
them, some of them also very long, every year with GSoC students.

Uli

On Thu, August 20, 2015 00:32, sebb wrote:
 The recent spammers have used quite unusual e-mail addresses, with
 very long numbers in them.

 On 19 August 2015 at 23:18, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:
 So how would you distinguish a spammer's subscription request from that
 of a valid user? I certainly
 can't from looking at the email address alone.

 Uli

 On 17.08.15 14:46, sebb wrote:
 On 17 August 2015 at 10:52, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au
 wrote:
 So I checked the config for dev@community and it is set up as a normal
 dev@ list operates.

 Therefore anyone can subscribe to the list and post.

 The only thing we can do here is change it to subscription moderation
 - that is an on|off switch so therefore
 ALL subscription requests will have to be approved by a moderator.

 If you are ok with that I can make the change .

 +1 from me.


 I checked the logs and it looks like a mod has removed the
 subscription for the user in this thread.

 That was me, sorry forgot to let the list know.

 Let me know,

 Gav…

 On 17 Aug 2015, at 9:48 am, Ross Gardler ross.gard...@microsoft.com
 wrote:

 Not sure if it's possible (you reply made me think I may be mixing up
 Google Groups features with our lists)

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 From: jan i mailto:j...@apache.org
 Sent: ‎8/‎17/‎2015 1:44 AM
 To: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: Roman Shaposhnik mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org; Apache
 Infrastructure mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies
 at ASF?

 On 17 August 2015 at 10:24, Ross Gardler ross.gard...@microsoft.com
 mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 Moderating first posts would be better.

 +1 to that solution (did not know that was possible), that way the
 moderators to not get overloaded with work.

 Alternative would be to allow apache ID, and moderate others.

 rgds
 jan i.



 -Original Message-
 From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM
 To: Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
 mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org
 Cc: ComDev dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org; Apache Infrastructure 
 infrastruct...@apache.org mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies
 at ASF?

 This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o
 mailto:dev-log@community.a.o for
 details)

 Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list.

 On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
 mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
 This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it,
 no?


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: 田義忠 name0905189...@icloud.com
 mailto:name0905189...@icloud.com
 Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM
 Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies
 at
 ASF?
 To: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org




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 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
 mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org 於 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道：

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru
 a...@shanecurcuru.org mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org
 wrote:
 On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 Bill,
 So I can release Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache
 Hadoop
 ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was
 misleading...

 No, you cannot.  See our actual trademark policy:


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 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww
 .apache.org
 http://apache.org/%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23productsdata=01%7c01%7c
 ross.gardler%40microsoft.com
 http://40microsoft.com/%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72
 f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG
 y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d

 Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only
 to
 ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties.  However our
 trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from
 publicly providing software using our trademarks.

 Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like
 any
 other corporation.  Some policies, like our license itself and
 our
 formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they
 are
 allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands.

 Make sense?

 It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just
 to
 take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent.

 Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at:

 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoopdata=01%7c01%7cross.gardler

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

[Ulrich Stärk]

So how would you distinguish a spammer's subscription request from that of a 
valid user? I certainly
can't from looking at the email address alone.

Uli

On 17.08.15 14:46, sebb wrote:
 On 17 August 2015 at 10:52, Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote:
 So I checked the config for dev@community and it is set up as a normal dev@ 
 list operates.

 Therefore anyone can subscribe to the list and post.

 The only thing we can do here is change it to subscription moderation - that 
 is an on|off switch so therefore
 ALL subscription requests will have to be approved by a moderator.

 If you are ok with that I can make the change .
 
 +1 from me.
 
 
 I checked the logs and it looks like a mod has removed the subscription for 
 the user in this thread.
 
 That was me, sorry forgot to let the list know.
 
 Let me know,

 Gav…

 On 17 Aug 2015, at 9:48 am, Ross Gardler ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 Not sure if it's possible (you reply made me think I may be mixing up 
 Google Groups features with our lists)

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 From: jan i mailto:j...@apache.org
 Sent: ‎8/‎17/‎2015 1:44 AM
 To: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: Roman Shaposhnik mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org; Apache Infrastructure 
 mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

 On 17 August 2015 at 10:24, Ross Gardler ross.gard...@microsoft.com 
 mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 Moderating first posts would be better.

 +1 to that solution (did not know that was possible), that way the
 moderators to not get overloaded with work.

 Alternative would be to allow apache ID, and moderate others.

 rgds
 jan i.



 -Original Message-
 From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 1:22 AM
 To: Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org
 Cc: ComDev dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org; 
 Apache Infrastructure 
 infrastruct...@apache.org mailto:infrastruct...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

 This is a new subscription (send an e-mail to dev-log@community.a.o 
 mailto:dev-log@community.a.o for
 details)

 Perhaps we need to consider moderated subscriptions for this list.

 On 16 August 2015 at 21:33, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org 
 mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
 This email echoing keeps happening. I thought we've dealt with it, no?


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: 田義忠 name0905189...@icloud.com mailto:name0905189...@icloud.com
 Date: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM
 Subject: Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at
 ASF?
 To: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org 
 dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org




 從我的 iPhone 傳送

 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org mailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org 於 
 2015年8月17日 04:25 寫道：

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org 
 mailto:a...@shanecurcuru.org
 wrote:
 On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
 Bill,
 So I can release Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop
 ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was
 misleading...

 No, you cannot.  See our actual trademark policy:


 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww 
 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww
 .apache.org 
 http://apache.org/%2ffoundation%2fmarks%2ffaq%2f%23productsdata=01%7c01%7c
 ross.gardler%40microsoft.com 
 http://40microsoft.com/%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72
 f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1sdata=DdcuJh%2bbhphaiy7yoW%2f2caG
 y15TIxfrsXg1V%2fHh9Jsg%3d

 Our release policy, as Roman originally asked about, applies only to
 ASF projects, and has no bearing on third parties.  However our
 trademark policy, and trademark law, prevents third parties from
 publicly providing software using our trademarks.

 Our operational policies only apply to our projects, just like any
 other corporation.  Some policies, like our license itself and our
 formal trademark policy, inform the rest of the world how they are
 allowed to use our websites, software code, and brands.

 Make sense?

 It does, but our relationships with downstream Linux vendors (just to
 take the most obvious example) set a very confusing precedent.

 Shane, if would be super helpful if you took a look at:

 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fpkgs.org%2fsearch%2fhadoopdata=01%7c01%7cross.gardler%40microsoft.com%7c53be77cdd3ef4dca285308d2a6dced17%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1sdata=ZXiKGbcB8ekfCts3JOcHVPYpX35xcqfr87Adbmf77%2f8%3d
  
 

Re: Mysterious email reflector

[Ulrich Stärk]

I guess that the spammer subscribed manually (or automated) the regular way, 
i.e. with an email to
dev-subscribe and a subsequent confirmation.

Anyway, I hope I have unsubscribed them now.

Uli

On 11.08.15 01:25, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:42 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 A moderator could unsubscribe them...
 
 I wonder if a moderator has approved their messages and added them to
 the allow list.  We could detect that case if the culprit is
 subscribed to dev-allow@community but not dev@community.
 
 I'm trying to understand how we have spam problems here but not on
 many other ASF lists.
 
 Marvin Humphrey
 

Re: FW: Enquiry for license

[Ulrich Stärk]

Sam, please send an email to dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org to 
unsubscribe yourself the same
way you subscribed yourself in the first place.

Thanks,

Uli

On 28.07.15 13:21, sam.mo...@wipro.com wrote:
 Hello ,
 Please remove sam.mo...@wipro.com from subscriber list to receive 
 notifications.
 
 Thanks and Regards,
 Sam.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ghamarjannah999 [mailto:ghamarjannah...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:50 PM
 To: Nitish Agarwal nitishag1...@gmail.com; dev@community.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Enquiry for license
 
 ghamarjannah...@gmail.com
 
 Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone
 
  Hadrian Zbarcea wrote 
 
 Hi,

 2. Apache Tomcat is free, and that's the only edition the Apache
 Software Foundation produces. There are no limitations.
 1. Your rights and obligations are clearly defined in the license [1].
 (Yes, you include Tomcat in a commercial application without any
 financial obligation on your part, but please read the license and
 consult a lawyer as necessary, ianal).


 Regards,
 Hadrian

 [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0


 On 07/27/2015 06:00 PM, Ghamarjannah999 wrote:
 ghamarjannah...@gmail.com

 Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

  Nitish Agarwal wrote 

 Hi Team,
 I am developing an application where i want to use  Apache tomcat
 and I need your help on following questions:
 1. My software/application is not free for users so can i use Apache
 tomcat in that for free ?
 2. what are the limitations for free edition of Apache tomcat  ?

 In short i want to know whether someone who is developing a product
 to be sold (not open source), can he use free of cost Apache tomcat or no ?

 Feel free to call on my number in signature.

 Thanks.
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Re: Please unsubscribe from list

[Ulrich Stärk]

just send an email to dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org

On 25.07.15 14:01, luvislite wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Mensaje original 
 De: Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com 
 Fecha:25/07/2015  03:00  (GMT+01:00) 
 Para: dev@community.apache.org 
 Cc:  
 Asunto: Re: New Subscriber 
 
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Stefan Reich
 stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 Have you tried JavaX? It's gonna be big, and I'm doing some nice machine
 learning stuff.
 
 This list is not an appropriate place to plug your non-ASF project to
 ASF newcomers.
 

Re: Who is responsible for reporter.apache.org?

[Ulrich Stärk]

FIY: I just created components in JIRA for reporter.apache.org and 
projects-new.apache.org as per
[1]. That should make tracking issues for those tools easier.

Cheers,

Uli

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-130

On 2015-06-22 16:21, Rich Bowen wrote:
 
 
 On 06/21/2015 09:04 PM, sebb wrote:
 As the subject says.

 I'm having problems updating the releases for commons.

 
 We all are.
 
 It's in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev
 
 

Re: permissions on COMDEV Wiki space

[Ulrich Stärk]

There is a group called asf-cla I think. It should contain people that signed a 
CLA but is not
populated from LDAP so needs to be maintained manually. This is the closest 
thing to a committer
group that I know of.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-05-31 19:29, Luciano Resende wrote:
 I was looking at it, and I could not find a asf wide committer group, maybe
 we should ask for Infra to create one ?
 
 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY herve.bout...@free.fr
 wrote:
 
 Hi,

 Community Development has a Confluence Wiki space
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/Index

 For projects-new.a.o, I'd like to use this Wiki to store some docs, but I
 don't have karma.

 Shouldn't this Wiki be opened to every ASF committer, like the svn space?

 Regards,

 Hervé

 
 
 

Re: ComDev VM

[Ulrich Stärk]

According to http://www.apache.org/dev/machines.html we have a Solaris
Zone already but no virtual machine. Can you reuse that?

Cheers,

Uli

On Wed, June 3, 2015 22:55, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
 Do we have a ComDev VM already?

 I ask because I would like to install Docker on it and get the wonderful
 events scripts running on their. I've made a start on a web UI for
 managing it, it's not ready year but I would like to get things in place
 to give other people access to it in case anyone wants to hack along.

 I'll request one if we don't have one yet.

 @rgardlerhttp://twitter.com/rgardler

Re: ApacheCon session recording - sponsor needed

[Ulrich Stärk]

Are the costs covered now or do we still need a sponsor? If we do I can
pass this along to somebody who might be willing to step in as I learned
yesterday.

Cheers,

Uli

On Tue, March 17, 2015 21:39, Rich Bowen wrote:


 On 03/17/2015 11:02 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 Hi Rich,

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
 ...As of right now, we don't have a sponsor to cover recording
 conference
 sessions - video or audio...

 How much money are we talking about, approximately?



 We're looking at 20k to bring in a professional video company to record
 all the talks, and do post-production. There's also the option of
 splitting the cost with another sponsor - one has identified themselves
 privately, but are not, at the moment, willing to pick up the entire
 tab. So there's an opportunity for sharing the cost.

 And, lest this number feel really large, folks that have done this can
 verify that it is indeed a HUGE amount of work to do this well.

 But it's kind of an all-or-nothing thing, so far as which sessions we
 record. We don't want to field why was that talk recorded and not mine
 kinds of questions, and we don't want to miss talks. So we don't really
 have a half-way option.

 We also have the option of bringing the ASF's digital recorders,
 plugging them into the audio boards, and then doing volunteer audio
 editing after the event, like we did in Vancouver - but that's *just*
 audio.

 --
 Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
 http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon

Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

[Ulrich Stärk]

So shall we put this to a vote or may I assume lazy consensus?

If so I'd go ahead and modify the permissions accordingly.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-16 09:21, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 One doesn't exclude the other. I'd first like us to establish whether 
 committership to the ComDev code is by invitation only or open to all 
 existing Apache committers (which I'd prefer).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 Am 15.03.2015 um 23:22 schrieb Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com:

 Why not register the solution as a component of the COMDEV project in JIRA,
 and do the same as any other ASF project does when it comes to code:
 register and evaluate issues, have patches registered there and have
 invited committers work from there.

 Best regards,

 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com

 On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 Heh.

 When I put that sentence in the board report we didn't have projects-new
 yet.

 I don't see a reason why we shouldn't open up those two (or even all of
 /comdev) for all committers
 as long as changes are first discussed on our lists.

 What do others think?

 Cheers,

 Uli

 On 2015-03-14 16:38, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
 Hi,

 I lately gave patches for projects-new that were not applied: it seems
 there
 is a problem to determine who should do it (to avoid projects-new to be a
 single-man affair).

 Then I made some investigations: in the last board report for ComDev
 [1], I
 think I found the cause:
 Since artifacts produced by ComDev are usually documentation on our
 website
 which is writable for all Apache committers, we usually do not add
 committers
 to the ComDev project.

 Then should projects(-new).apache.org become writeable for all Apache
 committers too? Same for reporter.apache.org?

 Regards,

 Hervé

 [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Community_Development.html

Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

[Ulrich Stärk]

Actually I just realized how dumb that question is.

So: I assume lazy consensus and will go ahead and modify the permissions if 
nobody objects within
the next 72 hours.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-19 18:07, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 So shall we put this to a vote or may I assume lazy consensus?
 
 If so I'd go ahead and modify the permissions accordingly.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2015-03-16 09:21, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 One doesn't exclude the other. I'd first like us to establish whether 
 committership to the ComDev code is by invitation only or open to all 
 existing Apache committers (which I'd prefer).

 Cheers,

 Uli

 Am 15.03.2015 um 23:22 schrieb Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com:

 Why not register the solution as a component of the COMDEV project in JIRA,
 and do the same as any other ASF project does when it comes to code:
 register and evaluate issues, have patches registered there and have
 invited committers work from there.

 Best regards,

 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com

 On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 Heh.

 When I put that sentence in the board report we didn't have projects-new
 yet.

 I don't see a reason why we shouldn't open up those two (or even all of
 /comdev) for all committers
 as long as changes are first discussed on our lists.

 What do others think?

 Cheers,

 Uli

 On 2015-03-14 16:38, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
 Hi,

 I lately gave patches for projects-new that were not applied: it seems
 there
 is a problem to determine who should do it (to avoid projects-new to be a
 single-man affair).

 Then I made some investigations: in the last board report for ComDev
 [1], I
 think I found the cause:
 Since artifacts produced by ComDev are usually documentation on our
 website
 which is writable for all Apache committers, we usually do not add
 committers
 to the ComDev project.

 Then should projects(-new).apache.org become writeable for all Apache
 committers too? Same for reporter.apache.org?

 Regards,

 Hervé

 [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Community_Development.html

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

I'm fine with whatever schedule suits you best ;)

And no, to my knowledge, ComDev does not have its own Twitter handle.

Cheers,

Uli

On Mon, March 16, 2015 09:29, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 Fantastic --thanks, Uli!

 Now we wait for Greg. I'll be issuing this announcement early tomorrow
 morning ET (UTC -5). I presume that's OK with you, yes?

 Also, does ComDev have a Twitter handle?

 Warm regards,
 Sally

 [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and
 brevity]

 - Reply message -
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 To: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 Cc: Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com, pr...@apache.org
 pr...@apache.org, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
 Subject: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of
 Code 2015
 Date: Mon, Mar 16, 2015 04:22

 Looks good to me. Thanks a ton Sally!

 Cheers,

 Uli


 Am 15.03.2015 um 23:13 schrieb Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org:

 Hello again!

 Below is the revised version that incorporates your changes, Uli. If you
 can please let me know if this meets your approval, I'd appreciate it!

 Warm regards,
 Sally

 = = =


 DRAFT :: NOT FOR DISSEMINATION

 The Apache Software Foundation Accepted as a Google Summer of Code 2015
 Mentoring Organization

 Hundreds of students mentored in The Apache Way of community-driven
 development since the program's inception in 2005.

 Forest Hill, MD –17 March 2015– The Apache Software Foundation (ASF),
 the all-volunteer developers, stewards, and incubators of more than 350
 Open Source projects and initiatives, announced today that it has been
 accepted as a Google Summer of Code (GSoC) mentoring organization for
 the 11th consecutive year.

 The Google Summer of Code program offers student developers stipends to
 write code for various Open Source projects over a three month period.
 This year, students will be paired with mentors from 137 Open Source,
 free software, and technology-related groups that include CERN, GNU
 Project, KDE, MIT Media Lab, WikiMedia Foundation, and many more.

 The ASF was amongst the initial 39 organizations selected to participate
 in the very first GSoC in 2005, and has participated every year since.
 At the ASF, the GSoC program is overseen by the Apache Community
 Development project, which comprises volunteers who help guide newcomers
 to The Apache Software Foundation, provide insight and advice on The
 Apache Way of meritocratic development, including how to contribute to
 Apache projects and to the Open Source community at-large.

 Over the summer, Apache Committers will mentor students that are
 sponsored by Google and will be working on many of our projects, said
 Ulrich Stärk, Vice President of Community Development at the ASF. The
 program helps us to not only get some great code written, but also to
 introduce students into Open Source development and hopefully recruit
 some new long-term Committers.

 Students are encouraged to discuss ideas with mentoring organizations
 and finalize proposals for projects of interest by the 27 March
 deadline. ASF mentors have proposed 129 ideas for Apache projects in Big
 Data, Cloud, Enterprise Integration, Enterprise Search, Project
 Management, Semantic Web  Linked Data, along with other categories.
 Students may choose from the Apache Ideas Page at
 http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas or suggest their own project for
 approval. Coding will begin 25 May and end 21 August.

 GSoC gives students the chance to work on industry-leading Open Source
 projects, collaborate with diverse communities, and gain real world
 experience related to their academic pursuits, added Stärk. We are
 proud to have mentored so many talented students over the years, and
 furthered our mission of providing software products for the public
 good. It's a rewarding experience both for the students and the Apache
 community at-large.

 Since the program's inception, GSoC has brought together over 8,500
 successful student participants from over countries and over 8,000
 mentors from 109 countries worldwide to produce over 55 million lines of
 code.

 Being accepted once again as a Google Summer of Code mentoring
 organization reinforces The Apache Software Foundation's leadership in
 community-driven development, said ASF Vice Chairman Greg Stein, who,
 in 2005 co-created the GSoC program while working at Google. Hundreds
 of students have been mentored in 'The Apache Way' --many have continued
 on to become long-term code committers on a variety of Apache projects,
 with some active program participants elected as ASF Members.

 Information on the ASF's participation in Google Summer of Code is
 available at http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html


 About The Apache Software Foundation (ASF)
 Established in 1999, the all-volunteer Foundation oversees more than 350
 leading Open Source projects, including Apache HTTP Server --the world's
 most popular Web server software. Through the ASF's meritocratic

Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

[Ulrich Stärk]

One doesn't exclude the other. I'd first like us to establish whether 
committership to the ComDev code is by invitation only or open to all existing 
Apache committers (which I'd prefer).

Cheers,

Uli

 Am 15.03.2015 um 23:22 schrieb Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com:
 
 Why not register the solution as a component of the COMDEV project in JIRA,
 and do the same as any other ASF project does when it comes to code:
 register and evaluate issues, have patches registered there and have
 invited committers work from there.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Pierre Smits
 
 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com
 
 On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:
 
 Heh.
 
 When I put that sentence in the board report we didn't have projects-new
 yet.
 
 I don't see a reason why we shouldn't open up those two (or even all of
 /comdev) for all committers
 as long as changes are first discussed on our lists.
 
 What do others think?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2015-03-14 16:38, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I lately gave patches for projects-new that were not applied: it seems
 there
 is a problem to determine who should do it (to avoid projects-new to be a
 single-man affair).
 
 Then I made some investigations: in the last board report for ComDev
 [1], I
 think I found the cause:
 Since artifacts produced by ComDev are usually documentation on our
 website
 which is writable for all Apache committers, we usually do not add
 committers
 to the ComDev project.
 
 Then should projects(-new).apache.org become writeable for all Apache
 committers too? Same for reporter.apache.org?
 
 Regards,
 
 Hervé
 
 [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Community_Development.html
 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Sally,

I think they are great as they are. Thanks a lot!

Cheers,

Uli


 Am 15.03.2015 um 22:37 schrieb Sally Khudairi sallykhuda...@yahoo.com:
 
 Thanks, Uli!
 
 I'll incorporate your suggestions and forward the revised draft shortly.
 
 How do you feel about your proposed quotes?
 
 Chat soon,
  Sally
 
 [From the mobile; please excuse top-posting, spelling/spacing errors, and 
 brevity]
 
 - Reply message -
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 To: dev@community.apache.org, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com
 Cc: pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org, Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
 Subject: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 
 2015
 Date: Sun, Mar 15, 2015 17:14
 
 Thank you Sally,
 
 my two comments are inline.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2015-03-15 17:37, Sally Khudairi wrote:
  Hi everyone --as promised, below is the draft announcement.
  
  Please review and forward any additions/corrections no later than 5PM ET 
  tomorrow (Monday) in
  order for us to announce on Tuesday. Should we be able to finalize before 
  then (by 9PM ET TODAY),
  we can go live Monday morning if you'd like. Also, if someone can please 
  update the ASF
  boilerplate at 
  http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache to the one 
  at the
  bottom of the draft announcement (below), that would be great.
 
 Will do.
 
  
  Thanks so much, Sally
  
  = = =
  
  
  DRAFT :: NOT FOR DISSEMINATION
  
  The Apache Software Foundation Accepted as a Google Summer of Code 2015 
  Mentoring Organization
  
  
  Hundreds of students mentored in The Apache Way of community-driven 
  development since the
  program's inception in 2005.
  
  Forest Hill, MD –17 March 2015– The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), the 
  all-volunteer
  developers, stewards, and incubators of more than 350 Open Source projects 
  and initiatives,
  announced today that it has been accepted as a Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 
  mentoring
  organization for the 11th consecutive year.
  
  The Google Summer of Code program offers student developers stipends to 
  write code for various
  Open Source projects over a three month period. This year, students will be 
  paired with mentors
  from 137 Open Source, free software, and technology-related groups that 
  include CERN, GNU
  Project, KDE, MIT Media Lab, WikiMedia Foundation, and many more.
  
  The ASF was amongst the initial 39 organizations selected to participate in 
  the very first GSoC
  in 2005, and has participated every year since. At the ASF, the GSoC 
  program is overseen by the
  Apache Community Development project, which comprises volunteers who help 
  guide newcomers to The
  Apache Software Foundation, provide insight and advice on The Apache Way of 
  meritocratic
  development, including how to contribute to Apache projects and to the Open 
  Source community
  at-large.
  
  Over the summer, Apache Committers will mentor students that are sponsored 
  by Google and will be
  working on many of our projects, said Ulrich Stärk, Vice President of 
  Community Development at
  the ASF. The program helps us to not only get some great code written, but 
  also to introduce
  students into Open Source development and hopefully recruit some new 
  long-term Committers.
  
  Now through 27 March, students are encouraged to discuss ideas with 
  mentoring organizations and
  begin drafting proposals for those projects of interest. Coding will begin 
  25 May and end 21
 
 I'd make it more clear that March 27 is the student application *deadline*. 
 To me begin drafting
 sounds like they could start only then (but then I'm not a native speaker so 
 it could totally be OK
 to write it like that).
 
  August. Thus far, 33 ideas have been proposed for Apache projects in Big 
  Data, Cloud, Enterprise
  Integration, Enterprise Search, Project Management, Semantic Web  Linked 
  Data, along with other
  categories. The complete Apache Ideas Page is at http://s.apache.org/cDg
 
 That sounds a bit as if students have already submitted ideas for projects, 
 which is not the case.
 We (our mentors) have created a list of project ideas (the official URL is
 http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas) from which students may choose (or better 
 yet, come up with
 something on their own). Currently that list has 129 entries.
 
  
  GSoC gives students the chance to work on industry-leading Open Source 
  projects, collaborate
  with diverse communities, and gain real world experience related to their 
  academic pursuits,
  added Stärk. We are proud to have mentored so many talented students over 
  the years, and
  furthered our mission of providing software products for the public good. 
  It's a rewarding
  experience both for the students and the Apache community at-large.
  
  Since the program's inception, GSoC has brought together over 8,500 
  successful student
  participants from over countries and over 8,000 mentors from 109 countries 
  worldwide to produce

Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

[Ulrich Stärk]

Heh.

When I put that sentence in the board report we didn't have projects-new yet.

I don't see a reason why we shouldn't open up those two (or even all of 
/comdev) for all committers
as long as changes are first discussed on our lists.

What do others think?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-14 16:38, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I lately gave patches for projects-new that were not applied: it seems there 
 is a problem to determine who should do it (to avoid projects-new to be a 
 single-man affair).
 
 Then I made some investigations: in the last board report for ComDev [1], I 
 think I found the cause:
 Since artifacts produced by ComDev are usually documentation on our website 
 which is writable for all Apache committers, we usually do not add committers 
 to the ComDev project.
 
 Then should projects(-new).apache.org become writeable for all Apache 
 committers too? Same for reporter.apache.org?
 
 Regards,
 
 Hervé
 
 [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Community_Development.html
 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Thank you Sally,

my two comments are inline.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-15 17:37, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 Hi everyone --as promised, below is the draft announcement.
 
 Please review and forward any additions/corrections no later than 5PM ET 
 tomorrow (Monday) in
 order for us to announce on Tuesday. Should we be able to finalize before 
 then (by 9PM ET TODAY),
 we can go live Monday morning if you'd like. Also, if someone can please 
 update the ASF
 boilerplate at http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache 
 to the one at the
 bottom of the draft announcement (below), that would be great.

Will do.

 
 Thanks so much, Sally
 
 = = =
 
 
 DRAFT :: NOT FOR DISSEMINATION
 
 The Apache Software Foundation Accepted as a Google Summer of Code 2015 
 Mentoring Organization
 
 
 Hundreds of students mentored in The Apache Way of community-driven 
 development since the
 program's inception in 2005.
 
 Forest Hill, MD –17 March 2015– The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), the 
 all-volunteer
 developers, stewards, and incubators of more than 350 Open Source projects 
 and initiatives,
 announced today that it has been accepted as a Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 
 mentoring
 organization for the 11th consecutive year.
 
 The Google Summer of Code program offers student developers stipends to write 
 code for various
 Open Source projects over a three month period. This year, students will be 
 paired with mentors
 from 137 Open Source, free software, and technology-related groups that 
 include CERN, GNU
 Project, KDE, MIT Media Lab, WikiMedia Foundation, and many more.
 
 The ASF was amongst the initial 39 organizations selected to participate in 
 the very first GSoC
 in 2005, and has participated every year since. At the ASF, the GSoC program 
 is overseen by the
 Apache Community Development project, which comprises volunteers who help 
 guide newcomers to The
 Apache Software Foundation, provide insight and advice on The Apache Way of 
 meritocratic
 development, including how to contribute to Apache projects and to the Open 
 Source community
 at-large.
 
 Over the summer, Apache Committers will mentor students that are sponsored 
 by Google and will be
 working on many of our projects, said Ulrich Stärk, Vice President of 
 Community Development at
 the ASF. The program helps us to not only get some great code written, but 
 also to introduce
 students into Open Source development and hopefully recruit some new 
 long-term Committers.
 
 Now through 27 March, students are encouraged to discuss ideas with mentoring 
 organizations and
 begin drafting proposals for those projects of interest. Coding will begin 25 
 May and end 21

I'd make it more clear that March 27 is the student application *deadline*. To 
me begin drafting
sounds like they could start only then (but then I'm not a native speaker so it 
could totally be OK
to write it like that).

 August. Thus far, 33 ideas have been proposed for Apache projects in Big 
 Data, Cloud, Enterprise
 Integration, Enterprise Search, Project Management, Semantic Web  Linked 
 Data, along with other
 categories. The complete Apache Ideas Page is at http://s.apache.org/cDg

That sounds a bit as if students have already submitted ideas for projects, 
which is not the case.
We (our mentors) have created a list of project ideas (the official URL is
http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas) from which students may choose (or better 
yet, come up with
something on their own). Currently that list has 129 entries.

 
 GSoC gives students the chance to work on industry-leading Open Source 
 projects, collaborate
 with diverse communities, and gain real world experience related to their 
 academic pursuits,
 added Stärk. We are proud to have mentored so many talented students over 
 the years, and
 furthered our mission of providing software products for the public good. 
 It's a rewarding
 experience both for the students and the Apache community at-large.
 
 Since the program's inception, GSoC has brought together over 8,500 
 successful student
 participants from over countries and over 8,000 mentors from 109 countries 
 worldwide to produce
 over 55 million lines of code.
 
 Being accepted once again as a Google Summer of Code mentoring organization 
 reinforces The
 Apache Software Foundation's leadership in community-driven development, 
 said ASF Vice Chairman
 Greg Stein, who, in 2005 co-created the GSoC program while working at Google. 
 Hundreds of
 students have been mentored in 'The Apache Way' --many have continued on to 
 become long-term code
 committers on a variety of Apache projects, with some active program 
 participants elected as ASF
 Members.
 
 Information on the ASF's participation in Google Summer of Code is available 
 at
 http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html
 
 About The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) Established in 1999, the 
 all-volunteer Foundation
 oversees more than 350 leading Open Source projects, including Apache HTTP

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hey Sally,

I just read the announcement and it says The ASF has been accepted as a Google 
Summer of Code
mentoring organization for the 10th consecutive year.

If I'm not mistaken it's the 11th year ;)

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 Thanks, Uli.
 I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
 Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You? 
 Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
 special there?
 Cheers,Sally
   From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
  To: pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org; Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org 
 Cc: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org 
  Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
  Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2015

 And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
 get an announcement out
 this year.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?

 Uli

  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
 Google Summer of Code 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 To: pr...@apache.org
 CC: dev@community.apache.org

 Hey Sally  Co.,

 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
 Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
 new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
 of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
 March 16 until March 27, coding
 will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.

 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org) 
 before publishing?

 Thanks,

 Uli

 [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
 [3] 
 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
 [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
 [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015


 
 
   
 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Sally,

probably not. Accepted student projects will only be announced on April 27, 
long after ApacheCon is
over.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-13 22:00, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 Just a quick question on this.
 Seeing that there will be some members of ComDev as well as PMCs at 
 ApacheCon, is it likely that any in-person mentoring/hackathon/MeetUps/* will 
 take place there?
 I know it's not common practice for GSoC, but I was curious if we'd be open 
 to anything like that. Humans huddling and all...
 Thanks,Sally 
   From: Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org
  To: dev@community.apache.org 
 Cc: Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org; pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org 
  Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015, 15:49
  Subject: Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2015

 Hi Sally,
 I am sure Ross and few others from ComDev will also be there at ApacheCon and 
 should be able to provide details on GSoC at ASF. I will be there as well and 
 also have a talk accepted on the same topic - http://sched.co/2P6f 
 Please let me know if you would like to promote anything specific on GSoC, I 
 will be happy to help and will appreciate your efforts. 
 Suresh
 
 
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:
 Perfect, thanks!
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 
 Got it. OK.
 
 Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
 work for you?
 
 Cheers,
 Sally
 
 
 
 *From:* Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 *To:* Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org; pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org
 *Cc:* dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54
 *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2015
 
 Hi Sally,
 
 yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.
 
 I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross 
 will. There's nothing
 planned at the moment.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 
 Thanks, Uli.
 
 I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
 
 Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
 
 Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
 special there?
 
 Cheers,
 Sally
 
 
 *From:* Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 *To:* pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org 
 mailto:pr...@apache.org;
 
 Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org mailto:s...@apache.org
 
 *Cc:* dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org 
 dev@community.apache.org
 
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 
 *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
 *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2015
 
 And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
 get an announcement out
 this year.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
 
 Uli
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
 Google Summer of Code
 
 2012
 
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de mailto:u...@spielviel.de 
 mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 
 
 mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 
 
 To: pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org 
 mailto:pr...@apache.org
 CC: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org 
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 
 
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 
 
 
 Hey Sally  Co.,
 
 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
 Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
 new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
 of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from March 
 16 until March 27,
 
 coding
 
 will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.
 
 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
 
 
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org) before 
 publishing?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Uli
 
 [1] http

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to get 
an announcement out
this year.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
 
 Uli
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
 Google Summer of Code 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 To: pr...@apache.org
 CC: dev@community.apache.org
 
 Hey Sally  Co.,
 
 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
 Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
 new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
 of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from March 
 16 until March 27, coding
 will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.
 
 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org) 
 before publishing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Uli
 
 [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
 [3] 
 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
 [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
 [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015
 
 

Re: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

[Ulrich Stärk]

*Really* moving board@ to BCC ;)

You said you put people in contact with each other so I was under the 
impression you were actively
part of a group driving this.

Jim, do you have any updates on the current status?

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
 Moving board@ to BCC
 
 I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't 
 me!)
 
 All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how 
 actively but it is
 now a priority.
 
 I believe Jim is involved wearing his ComDev hat so (with his agreement) you 
 can look to him for
 those updates. David is wearing his infra hat and Roberto wears his SF hat.
 
 Ross
 
 Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
 
 -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] 
 Sent: Thursday, March 12,
 2015 1:36 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: bo...@apache.org Subject: Re: 
 Google Code shutting
 down Jan 2016
 
 We reported about apache extras in September and November and both times we 
 were told that Jim,
 Ross, David and Roberto were working on it. Some time in October David asked 
 for feedback on a
 proof of concept, no news since then.
 
 Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
 Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016.
 
 We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure 
 that progress on
 this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter.
 
 I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with 
 SourceForge, they have
 offered neighborhoods in the past. David, with his infra hat, has been 
 exploring options for
 download provision already (I'm not sure of the current status).
 
 (and as a reminder, this is why we don't like to use services provided by 
 external companies)
 
 Ross
 
 Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
 
 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Perfect, thanks!

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 18:57, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 Got it. OK.
 
 Let me pull something together and get back to you in a day or so. Does that 
 work for you?
 
 Cheers,
 Sally
  
 
 
 *From:* Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 *To:* Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org; pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org
 *Cc:* dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:54
 *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2015
 
 Hi Sally,
 
 yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.
 
 I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross 
 will. There's nothing
 planned at the moment.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 Thanks, Uli.

 I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.

 Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
 
 Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
 special there?

 Cheers,
 Sally

 
 *From:* Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 *To:* pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org 
 mailto:pr...@apache.org;
 Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org mailto:s...@apache.org
 *Cc:* dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org 
 dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
 *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2015

 And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
 get an announcement out
 this year.

 Cheers,

 Uli

 On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?

 Uli

  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization 
 for Google Summer of Code
 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de mailto:u...@spielviel.de 
 mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 To: pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org 
 mailto:pr...@apache.org
 CC: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org 
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org

 Hey Sally  Co.,

 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
 Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
 new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive 
 list of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
 March 16 until March 27,
 coding
 will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.

 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org) before 
 publishing?
 
 
 

 Thanks,

 Uli

 [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
 [3] 
 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
 [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
 [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015




 
 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Sally,

yes, I'm the GSoC lead again.

I don't know who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon but I guess at least Ross 
will. There's nothing
planned at the moment.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-12 18:42, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 Thanks, Uli.
 
 I did post about it in our weekly news round-up.
 
 Happy to work with you on a press release. Who is the ASF lead on GSoC. You?
  
 Who from ComDev will be at ApacheCon? Are you planning to do something 
 special there?
 
 Cheers,
 Sally
 
 
 *From:* Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 *To:* pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org; Sally Khudairi s...@apache.org
 *Cc:* dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, 12 March 2015, 13:31
 *Subject:* Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2015
 
 And again recycling this. I think we missed 2014 so I want to make sure to 
 get an announcement out
 this year.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 
 On 2013-04-09 14:11, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?

 Uli

  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
 Google Summer of Code
 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 To: pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org
 CC: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org

 Hey Sally  Co.,

 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
 Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some 
 new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list 
 of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
 March 16 until March 27,
 coding
 will take place from May 25 to August 21. See [5] for the detailed timeline.

 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org) before publishing?

 Thanks,

 Uli

 [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2015
 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2015/apache
 [3] 
 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page
 [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas
 [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2015


 
 

Re: Apply for mentor role in ASF for GSC

[Ulrich Stärk]

Please refer to my emails detailing the process which I sent to all PMCs.

Thanks,

Uli

On 2015-03-09 19:35, Dingcheng Li wrote:
 Dear ASF administrator, I am a research scientist and a senior software
 developer at Mayo Clinic medical informatics group. I am also a PMC member
 for cTAKES which is an open-source software developed by our group and
 released via ASF. I am quite interested in GSC and would like to serve as a
 mentor. I hope that more good software can be developed by young students
 and contribute the repository of ASF. Hope that I can be accepted by you as
 a mentor. Thanks, Dingcheng
 

Re: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org

[Ulrich Stärk]

+1

On 2015-03-06 17:52, Rich Bowen wrote:
 I'd like for us to go ahead and replace projects.apache.org with 
 projects-new.apache.org. It now has
 all the functionality that projects.a.o has, and much more, and there's no 
 reason to have two sites
 up. If you object to moving forward with this, please say so.
 
 [ ] +1, do it
 [ ] +0, whatevs
 [ ] -1, No (and say why, so we can address the problem)
 
 --Rich
 

Re: Google Summer of Code - Quick Query

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Manoj,

this question is best asked on the Spark mailing lists (copied). From a formal 
point of view all
that counts is your proposal in Melange once applications start but your mentor 
or the project you
wish to contribute to may have additional requirements.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-03-03 08:54, Manoj Kumar wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am Manoj, a prospective student from the Apache Spark project. I have
 been contributing to Spark and discussing the project idea with my mentor
 for some time now. The tentative project has a number of JIRA's associated
 with it. I would still like to know if it is necessary to create an
 umbrella JIRA with all the other JIRA's  linked to it (and tagged with
 gsoc) or is it sufficient to just upload a proposal when the registration
 opens.
 
 
 Regards
 

Re: Is it too late for GSOC 2015?

[Ulrich Stärk]

It's not too late, just add the project ideas to the COMDEV project in JIRA.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-02-27 16:14, Ian Dunlop wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Is it too late to add potential projects to this years (2015) list of
 Apache GSOC ideas? Taverna (http://taverna.incubator.apache.org/) is a
 relatively new Apache incubator project and we don't have an live
 Apache JIRA yet so we can't add ideas to it and tag them. Is there
 another JIRA or another method we could use in the meantime.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ian
 

Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Pierre,

the original email went bcc p...@apache.org so all PMCs should be aware of the 
programme.

Great to hear that there is interest within Directory and OpenMeetings. There 
are however no ideas
on our list from those two projects. It would be great if you could remind them 
to record them.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-02-11 12:06, Pierre Smits wrote:
 Hi Ulrich,
 
 Don't know whether your call for action was also sent to PMC Members of the
 projects (via private@), but there is interest in Apache Directory and
 Apache OpenMeetings.
 
 For Apache Directory interest, have a look at:
 http://directory.markmail.org/message/fgvejt7gncwheyki
 For Apache OpenMeetings interest, have a look at:
 http://markmail.org/message/e23ishui3rt7hhsg
 
 Best regards,
 
 Pierre Smits
 
 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com
 
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,

 Our ideas list for GSoC projects [1] so far has only 38 entries. IMO this
 number is extremely low
 given the number of projects at Apache. I conclude that interest in GSoC
 this year is either very
 low or that my initial email has not reached the right people.

 Please help me spread the word by reminding your projects' communities of
 GSoC and the great
 opportunity for community building it provides.

 Thanks,

 Uli


 [1] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas

 

Re: GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Alex,

My email went to private@incubator with the explicit request to forward it to 
podlings. I'll re-send
it to the general list hoping that it doesn't drown in the flood of emails 
there.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2015-02-11 12:12, Alex B. wrote:
 There also might be a lot of issues submitted in the last minute before
 the deadline, as it happens with talk for ApacheCon CFP,
 I.e by new projects from the Incubator who are interested but are just
 starting they ASF journey and did not have much time to prepare beforehand
 this year (like Zeppelin http://markmail.org/message/kcidofpyr36eb5br)
 
 Might it be worth\appropriate posting a short notice on Incubator list too?
 
 --
 Kind regards,
 Alex
 
 On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ulrich,

 Don't know whether your call for action was also sent to PMC Members of the
 projects (via private@), but there is interest in Apache Directory and
 Apache OpenMeetings.

 For Apache Directory interest, have a look at:
 http://directory.markmail.org/message/fgvejt7gncwheyki
 For Apache OpenMeetings interest, have a look at:
 http://markmail.org/message/e23ishui3rt7hhsg

 Best regards,

 Pierre Smits

 *ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
 Services  Solutions for Cloud-
 Based Manufacturing, Professional
 Services and Retail  Trade
 http://www.orrtiz.com

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 Our ideas list for GSoC projects [1] so far has only 38 entries. IMO this
 number is extremely low
 given the number of projects at Apache. I conclude that interest in GSoC
 this year is either very
 low or that my initial email has not reached the right people.

 Please help me spread the word by reminding your projects' communities of
 GSoC and the great
 opportunity for community building it provides.

 Thanks,

 Uli


 [1] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas


 

GSoC 2015 - very little interest so far

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hi Folks,

Our ideas list for GSoC projects [1] so far has only 38 entries. IMO this 
number is extremely low
given the number of projects at Apache. I conclude that interest in GSoC this 
year is either very
low or that my initial email has not reached the right people.

Please help me spread the word by reminding your projects' communities of GSoC 
and the great
opportunity for community building it provides.

Thanks,

Uli


[1] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2015ideas

Re: Managing zyz.apache.org (was RE: WELCOME to dev@community.apache.org)

[Ulrich Stärk]

If I'm not mistaken, SVN does the same (combine and compress all changes prior 
to sending it over
the wire).

Uli

On 2015-01-08 10:28, Robert Metzger wrote:
 I think there is a performance difference between git and svn because with
 git, you are syncing repositories, not files. Git is usually compressing
 the repository before sending it over the network.
 I did a little test with our website directory and pushed it to github:
 
 git add : 7 seconds (17k files)
 git repo size: 58 MB (du -sh in .git dir)
 git push to github : 35 seconds (using the same internet connection as with
 the svn)
 
 I think we can achieve the same performance at apache using git for the
 websites.
 
 I agree with you that I should probably take a closer look into the CMS
 external build feature. Using svn or git for 17k files is certainly wrong.
 In particular because we add generated files (javadocs, documentation) to
 the VCS which doesn't have any value.
 
 I'll get in touch with Infra on a separate thread to resolve our website
 issues.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org wrote:
 

 On 2015-01-08 09:55, Robert Metzger wrote:

 Hi,

  If there is sufficient demand, however, that could change - the code that

 would make this possible does exist.

 I would like to express demand from the Flink project. svn is a pain to
 use
 (since we host javadocs and our documentation on our website, the upload
 usually runs for 6+ hours. Probably because its so many files).

 How is that in any way related to svn? svn or git, if you have that many
 files, it's going to take ages to upload regardless of which repository
 system you use.

 If it makes it easier, you might peruse http://www.apache.org/dev/
 cmsref.html#external-build and see if you can't use an external build job
 for you site - that way, you just commit the changes to your template/raw
 docs, and the CMS system builds the javadoc for you.



 Almost all incoming incubator projects are using git nowadays. Many of
 them
 use GitHub and the gh-pages hosting feature. I guess a lot of them would
 appreciate a similar feature from the ASF infra.



 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org
 wrote:

  Hi Jay,
 It sounds like you have the CMS setup that is quite common in the ASF.
 If you would rather have straight-up svnpubsub, you can ask for it. That
 way, whatever static content you push to svn will instantly be shown on
 your web site without having to publish through the UI first.

 The main reason we do not support git in this workflow is that git does
 not enable single-file checkouts, and that we haven't properly tested
 gitwcsub (a git version of svnwcsub which is the frontend for svnpubsub)
 for web sites yet. If there is sufficient demand, however, that could
 change - the code that would make this possible does exist.

 With regards,
 Daniel.


 On 2015-01-07 21:29, jay vyas wrote:

  thanks daniel...

here at bigtop we are 100% git based.  so having an svn account ,
 just
 to
 push changes to a site, seems to slow us down alot.

 is SVN required  ? or is there another way?

 right now we have a system that uses maven, followed by svn and then we
 have to approve the changes in the web ui.

 would rather just push static html pages to our git repo , the way we
 push
 everything else.

 are all apache projects using SVN or do some folks have an easier
 workflow ?






 On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Daniel Gruno humbed...@apache.org
 wrote:

   Essentially, github uses the same method as we do with svnpubsub.

 Files are pushed to a repository and then from there pushed directly to
 the web site.

 Is there anything specific about the github model that you think differ
 from how we do things?
 Apart from it being git and not subversion, obviously.

 With regards,
 Daniel.

 On 2015-01-07 21:06, jay vyas wrote:

   Hi apache !

 Whats the simplest way to maintain the xyz.apache.org site?  Right
 now
 we
 push to SVN, but would be great to use something like the github.io
 model,
 where the static pages are just hosted directly.


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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Commons grants write access to all ASF committers

[Ulrich Stärk]

+1

On 2014-12-25 18:13, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote:
 Awesome job Commons!
 
 ++
 Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
 Chief Architect
 Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
 Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
 WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
 ++
 Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
 ++
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Benedikt Ritter brit...@apache.org
 Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 Date: Thursday, December 25, 2014 at 6:17 AM
 To: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 Subject: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Commons grants write access to all ASF
 committers
 
 Dear fellow committers,

 The Apache Commons Team is pleased to announce that write access to the
 Apache Commons Subversion and Git repositories has been granted to all ASF
 committers.

 Apache Commons is an Apache project focused on all aspects of reusable
 Java
 components. As such, the components maintained by the Apache Commons
 project
 may be of interest to a variety of other Apache projects.

 The Apache Commons community would like to invite you to share and
 maintain
 useful code.

 While Apache Commons is a Commit-Then-Review community, we would consider
 it polite and helpful for contributors to announce their intentions and
 plans on the dev mailing list [1] before committing code.


 Have fun,

 Benedikt Ritter,
 on behalf of the Apache Commons Community

 [1] http://commons.apache.org/mail-lists.html

 -- 
 http://people.apache.org/~britter/
 http://www.systemoutprintln.de/
 http://twitter.com/BenediktRitter
 http://github.com/britter
 

Re: Code of conduct

[Ulrich Stärk]

Published. Thanks!

Uli

On 2014-11-18 21:37, Rob Vesse wrote:
 Great work Rich
 
 The community.apache.org site has a specific question on this in the
 Newbie FAQ (http://community.apache.org/newbiefaq.html) which just points
 to the wiki currently.  I have made an edit that points to the newly
 published document but I don't have write permissions to publish the
 updated site through the CMS.
 
 If someone with appropriate karma could review (and tweak if necessary) my
 changes and publish them that would be much appreciated
 
 Thanks,
 
 Rob
 
 On 18/11/2014 14:53, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
 
 As many of you are no doubt aware, we have had on our website, for at
 least 8 years, and, I think probably much longer, Code of conduct,
 coming soon! Long enough, in fact, that I had completely forgotten
 about it.

 It was brought to my attention this morning, and I decided,
 unilaterally, that it was appropriate for me to JFDI, and that I'd ask
 for forgiveness rather than permission.

 I have stolen, wholesale, the code of conduct of the CouchDB project [1]
 which has discussed this extensively, and borrowed heavily from other
 communities that have discussed it extensively. So this isn't original
 content, but, rather, standing on the shoulders of giants.

 I honestly can't figure out why we didn't just do this years ago, other
 than expecting that someone else would.

 So, without further ado:
 http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html

 Patches welcome.

 I've also asked Noah Slater, who was very instrumental in crafting that
 document, to speak up here, so that:

 * Patches to one document will propagate to the other, where appropriate
 * ComDev can have a boilerplate document that we can recommend that ASF
 projects that don't have such a code, can adopt

 Please do speak up if you have any objections to my taking this
 initiative without discussion. But we've been discussing it, on and off,
 for many, many years.

 [1] http://couchdb.apache.org/conduct.html

 -- 
 Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
 http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
 
 
 
 

Re: ApacheCon Europe status and ToDo

[Ulrich Stärk]

Am 2014-04-23 um 18:40 schrieb Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com:

 I currently have two keynotes tentatively accepted, both of which I'm pretty 
 stoked about. Please note that while I'm not being secretive about this on 
 this list, it would be nice if you didn't publicize these until we have 
 titles and abstracts. Thanks.

You realize that this is a public list? ;)

Uli

Re: Request for modification of GSOC proposal

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hello Zhiwei,

we don’t allow proposal modifications after the proposal submission deadline. 
It would be unfair towards other students. Since you say that the mistake is 
small, it won’t make a huge difference anyway.

Cheers,

Uli

Am 2014-03-21 um 20:19 schrieb Zhiwei Cai cai.zhiw...@gmail.com:

 Hi,
 Sadly I just find out some small mistake in my proposal right after the
 application dealine. Is it possible to allow me to modify my proposal to
 fix it? Here is the link to my proposal:
 https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/student/google/gsoc2014/zhiwei/5818821692620800
 
 Best,
 Zhiwei

Re: Request to vouch for the Terasology organization's participation as a mentor in GSOC 2015

[Ulrich Stärk]

As stated elsewhere, I’ve never seen Google’s request to „vouch“ for an 
organization as the organization vouching but rather veteran org admins 
vouching for the org admins, mentors and processes of an organization new to 
GSoC.

If I happen to be at this year’s mentor summit I’ll raise this point there.

Uli

Am 2014-03-12 um 22:04 schrieb Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com:

 In my opinion, Google is making an incoherent request. What does it
 mean for one organization to vouch for another? What, specifically,
 does Google think that the ASF could, as a Foundation, know about
 Terasology? If Google were to publish something very specific and
 concrete about this, perhaps it would reveal an opportunity here. As
 things are, I don't see how anyone wearing an ASF hat can make any
 endorsement here.

Re: GSoC short link error on google-melange?

[Ulrich Stärk]

Thanks for reporting this Gary, I just fixed the link to the filter labels.

Uli

Am 2014-02-25 um 13:25 schrieb Gary Martin gary.mar...@wandisco.com:

 On 25/02/14 12:20, Gary Martin wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was just having a quick explore of google-melange (partly to see if I 
 could work out whether Bloodhound's proposed projects were likely to be 
 added) and I noticed that the current short link 
 (http://s.apache.org/gsoc2014idealabels) on the gsoc2014 apache page [1] 
 does not appear to be a known short link. Is this expected for the moment or 
 should this have been http://s.apache.org/gsoc2014ideas instead?
 
 Cheers,
Gary
 
 [1] https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/org2/google/gsoc2014/apache
 
 Oh, I think I got slightly the wrong idea there.. perhaps 
 http://s.apache.org/gsoclabels was the intended link for the one that is 
 failing. Probably not quite so important!
 
 Cheers,
Gary

Re: GSoC @ApacheCon

[Ulrich Stärk]

Contact me if you need input. I won’t be at ApachCon but can help prepare.

Uli

Am 2014-01-18 um 23:52 schrieb Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org:

 Hi Lewis,
 
 Great idea. I can help out connecting to local universities. 
 
 Suresh
 
 On Jan 18, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney lewis.mcgibb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Folks,
 Title says it all.
 Are we up for having a workshop... of sorts?
 I don't think we made the most of hooking up with Universities/colleges
 when we were in Portland... lets not make that mistake again.
 Best
 Lewis
 
 -- 
 *Lewis*
 

Re: Event-in-a-Box

[Ulrich Stärk]

One remark of the administrative kind: Have you thought about customs and VAT? 
At least for Germany
the box contents exceed the amount that may be freely imported if sent from the 
US. Similar probably
for all other countries.

Uli

On 2013-10-30 18:13, Melissa Warnkin wrote:
 Thank you all for your feedback.  I have collated all of the feedback and 
 provide you with a revised
 list (attached).  Please keep in mind that this is strictly the physical box 
 contents; therefore,
 you might not see all of your suggestions listed.  For other suggestions not 
 related to the physical
 box, I have incorporated those for inclusion in the how-to document.
 
 The minimal list was kind of difficult, as the feedback varied greatly.  As 
 such, I have provided
 two options for the minimal box:  Option #1 is the absolute bare minimum, 
 while option #2 has more
 in it than #1 but less than the Maximum box (not by much though!).
 
 Please take a moment to review and provide your input on the revised lists.
 
 Thank you so much!!
 ~M
 
 
 
 
 *From:* Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
 *To:* dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 11:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Event-in-a-Box
 
 Great feedback folks.
 
 Couple of items to add to the list:
 
   - pack of various display port adaptors
   - Travel converters (to address Isabel's observation regarding different
 power requirements)
 
 Remember that the goal here is to have a single kit that can be sent from
 event to event with minimal effort. So the fact that an item needed for
 event type Foo but not Bar should still be included. Having said that, it
 might be a good idea to have two boxes - the minimal box with the
 essentials and the maximum box with everything else and space for the
 minimal. This way we can avoid needlessly shipping unwanted stuff.
 
 Isabel - you make a really good point with respect to clever shortcuts. I
 hope that you (and others) can bring your valuable experience to bear and
 help make sure those clever shortcuts get into the kit. I suggest we wait
 for Melissa to write the first draft then we weigh in with a helpful
 hints section.
 
 Thanks,
 Ross
 
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Senior Technology Evangelist
 Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
 A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
 
 
 
 
 
 On 4 October 2013 02:20, Isabel Drost-Fromm isa...@apache.org 
 mailto:isa...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Thursday, October 03, 2013 04:17:33 PM Melissa Warnkin wrote:
  Physical
  Content List:
  [...]
   * Extension cords….how many and what length

 Keep in mind that depending on where the event takes place it might be
 easier
 to buy the local ones locally.


  Please keep in mind that this is an initial draft, and not a
 comprehensive
  and/or guaranteed list!! I welcome feedback from your past experiences
 from
  the events that you have coordinated!! Is there anything that I missed,
 or
  anything on the list above that was not needed??!!

 From my personal experience: For anything that is not a Barcamp, the stuff
 for
 the scheduling grid is not needed.

 Concerning WiFi Routers: That may be an advantage of being in Berlin: I
 never
 bothered to set up a separate WiFi for the smaller events but rather went
 for
 locations that provided open access points - co-working spaces usually work
 well, universities in Germany not so much. With 3G everywhere the need for
 WiFi at local events is not quite so urgent anymore except for hacking
 events.

 When making an Apache related event, I generally find it convenient to have
 stickers/buttons to give away - people keep asking me where I got the
 stickers
 on my laptop from. Potentially add flyers to give to people (basic
 information
 on the ASF, upcoming events, whatever we want to promote). Depending on
 where
 the event takes place, getting such flyers printed might be less trouble
 when
 done locally.


  I welcome feedback based on your past experiences that you think will
 help
  others in the future with their events!!

 Tell them lots about the positive feedback they will get - don't tell them
 too
 much about the time it *might* take to setup: a) With some clever shortcuts
 the effort needed can be reduced substantially and b) In general the
 positive
 feedback you get weighs much more than any time put into the event ;)


 Isabel


 
 

Re: Event-in-a-Box

[Ulrich Stärk]

One Box in the EU might be OK for several countries to avoid taxes and customs 
but for most
countries this is not the case. So unless you increase the number to one box 
per country, you should
plan how to deal with taxes and customs.

Uli

On 2013-10-31 16:33, Melissa Warnkin wrote:
 Exactly my thoughts, and I was planning on discussing this on today's call!!
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com
 To: dev@community.apache.org 
 Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:47 AM
 Subject: Re: Event-in-a-Box
  
 
 
 On 10/31/2013 04:06 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 One remark of the administrative kind: Have you thought about customs and 
 VAT? At least for Germany
 the box contents exceed the amount that may be freely imported if sent from 
 the US. Similar probably
 for all other countries.
 
 It may be useful to have N of these boxes, located in strategic places 
 around the world within easy shipping distance, with N growing over time 
 as we see demand in different parts of the world.
 
 --Rich
 
 
 
 Uli

 On 2013-10-30 18:13, Melissa Warnkin wrote:
 Thank you all for your feedback.  I have collated all of the feedback and 
 provide you with a revised
 list (attached).  Please keep in mind that this is strictly the physical 
 box contents; therefore,
 you might not see all of your suggestions listed.  For other suggestions 
 not related to the physical
 box, I have incorporated those for inclusion in the how-to document.

 The minimal list was kind of difficult, as the feedback varied greatly.  
 As such, I have provided
 two options for the minimal box:  Option #1 is the absolute bare minimum, 
 while option #2 has more
 in it than #1 but less than the Maximum box (not by much though!).

 Please take a moment to review and provide your input on the revised lists.

 Thank you so much!!
 ~M



 
 *From:* Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
 *To:* dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 11:52 AM
 *Subject:* Re: Event-in-a-Box

 Great feedback folks.

 Couple of items to add to the list:

 - pack of various display port adaptors
 - Travel converters (to address Isabel's observation regarding different
 power requirements)

 Remember that the goal here is to have a single kit that can be sent from
 event to event with minimal effort. So the fact that an item needed for
 event type Foo but not Bar should still be included. Having said that, it
 might be a good idea to have two boxes - the minimal box with the
 essentials and the maximum box with everything else and space for the
 minimal. This way we can avoid needlessly shipping unwanted stuff.

 Isabel - you make a really good point with respect to clever shortcuts. I
 hope that you (and others) can bring your valuable experience to bear and
 help make sure those clever shortcuts get into the kit. I suggest we wait
 for Melissa to write the first draft then we weigh in with a helpful
 hints section.

 Thanks,
 Ross

 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Senior Technology Evangelist
 Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc.
 A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation





 On 4 October 2013 02:20, Isabel Drost-Fromm isa...@apache.org 
 mailto:isa...@apache.org wrote:

 On Thursday, October 03, 2013 04:17:33 PM Melissa Warnkin wrote:
 Physical
 Content List:
 [...]
* Extension cords….how many and what length
 Keep in mind that depending on where the event takes place it might be
 easier
 to buy the local ones locally.


 Please keep in mind that this is an initial draft, and not a
 comprehensive
 and/or guaranteed list!! I welcome feedback from your past experiences
 from
 the events that you have coordinated!! Is there anything that I missed,
 or
 anything on the list above that was not needed??!!
   From my personal experience: For anything that is not a Barcamp, the 
 stuff
 for
 the scheduling grid is not needed.

 Concerning WiFi Routers: That may be an advantage of being in Berlin: I
 never
 bothered to set up a separate WiFi for the smaller events but rather went
 for
 locations that provided open access points - co-working spaces usually work
 well, universities in Germany not so much. With 3G everywhere the need for
 WiFi at local events is not quite so urgent anymore except for hacking
 events.

 When making an Apache related event, I generally find it convenient to have
 stickers/buttons to give away - people keep asking me where I got the
 stickers
 on my laptop from. Potentially add flyers to give to people (basic
 information
 on the ASF, upcoming events, whatever we want to promote). Depending on
 where
 the event takes place, getting such flyers printed might be less trouble
 when
 done locally.


 I welcome feedback based on your past experiences that you think will
 help
 others in the future with their events!!
 Tell them lots about the positive feedback they will get - don't tell them
 too

Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Re: Deadline for Google Code-in 2013 Mentoring Org Apps is Monday, Oct 28th at 19:00 UTC

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hey Andrea,

just a bit more information on GCI. We need 20 tasks already for the org 
application to be
considered. Just wanted to let you know.

Cheers,

Uli


 Original Message 
Subject:[GSoC Mentors] Re: Deadline for Google Code-in 2013 Mentoring 
Org Apps is Monday, Oct 28th
at 19:00 UTC
Date:   Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:   Stephanie sttay...@google.com
To: google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com



To clarify, orgs only need 20 tasks for their org application (4 tasks from 
each of the 5 categories).

Should an org be accepted as a mentoring organization for GCI 2013 they will be 
expected to have at
least 75 tasks by the time the contest begins on Monday, November 18th.

Best,
Stephanie

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:58:54 PM UTC-7, Stephanie wrote:

Hi GSoC Mentors and Org Admins,


Just a quick reminder that for those organizations interested in 
participating in Google Code-in
2013 [0] the deadline to apply is in 5 days - Monday, October 28th at 19:00 
UTC.


If your org has decided it would like to apply to participate in the 
contest, please read the
Mentor Information [1] to make sure you have the time and capacity to 
participate in the
contest. You can then go ahead and fill out the application [2] on Melange 
now. The person
filling out the org app must already be registered in Melange from a prior 
instance of Google
Code-in or Google Summer of Code in order to access the program application 
for GCI 2013.


Please read over the rules for participating as an organization in GCI 
before applying, they can
be found on the Organization Agreement [3].


Again this year the participating organizations will be choosing their top 
2 contributors during
the contest period, every org will have 2 students represented on the Grand 
Prize Trip.


The most important part of your application is the tasks list, be sure to 
have at least 4 tasks
in each of the 5 categories on your app. The Task list gives you an 
opportunity to think about
how your org would break up tasks into bite size chunks for students to 
work on (sometimes this
can be a bit tricky). This is also a great way for orgs to see how 
easy/difficult it will be for
them to come up with tasks for the contest. Orgs should expect to have 
between 150-300 tasks
completed by students throughout the 7 week program. The orgs that are 
chosen to participate
will need to be prepared to have at least 75 tasks on their page when the 
contest opens for
students on Nov 18th.


If you have any questions please contact this list or you can contact me 
directly at
sttay...@google.com mailto:sttay...@google.com. Thanks.


We will announce the GCI 2013 Mentoring orgs on Friday, November 1st.


[0] developers.google.com/open-source/gci 
http://developers.google.com/open-source/gci


[1] https://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInfo2013
https://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInfo2013


[2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/application/google/gci2013
http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/application/google/gci2013


[3]

http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/org_admin_agreement

http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/org_admin_agreement



Best,

Stephanie Taylor

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Re: Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Deadline for Google Code-in 2013 Mentoring Org Apps is Monday, Oct 28th at 19:00 UTC

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 2013-10-24 22:34, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 On 24/10/2013 Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 I think we have never participated in GCI because the tasks don't match well 
 with what we do and
 because mentoring juvenile high-school students is something very different 
 than mentoring adult
 college students and probably a lot more time-consuming too.
 
 OpenOffice is the odd project in many respects at the ASF, but it might be 
 that we are interested.
 OpenOffice alone can easily find dozens of suitable tasks, we have a lot of 
 committers (including
 teachers, including native speakers of many languages) who don't code but can 
 perfectly mentor
 acceptable tasks, and our mailing lists see so many things that a teen 
 answering compulsively and
 writing in all caps won't make news.
 
 I posted a note on the OpenOffice dev list: if we manage to put a reasonable 
 number of mentors
 together in the allowed short time, I may ask that Apache applies. I realize 
 that other Apache
 projects have difficulties in finding tasks (on the contrary, OpenOffice 
 cannot easily find GSOC
 projects since development actions are either too simple -like the ones 
 needed here- or too
 complex), so I'll ask that Apache applies only if the feedback leaves me 
 reasonably convinced that
 OpenOffice can find and mentor enough tasks alone.
 
 Regards,
   Andrea.

If you decide that you want to participate I will submit an org application for 
the ASF. But please
tell me no later than monday morning UTC so that I have sufficient time for 
this. Also, I might need
some help phrasing some texts that the application might require so somebody on
IRC/Skype/$some_other_im to help me with this will be highly appreciated.

Uli

Re: Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Deadline for Google Code-in 2013 Mentoring Org Apps is Monday, Oct 28th at 19:00 UTC

[Ulrich Stärk]

No. I have forwarded this information to the ComDev PMC a few weeks back but 
nobody seems to have an
interest in driving this.

I think we have never participated in GCI because the tasks don't match well 
with what we do and
because mentoring juvenile high-school students is something very different 
than mentoring adult
college students and probably a lot more time-consuming too.

Cheers,

Uli

On 2013-10-24 11:14, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
 Are you submitting something ?
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 *From: *Stephanie sttay...@google.com mailto:sttay...@google.com
 *Subject: **[GSoC Mentors] Deadline for Google Code-in 2013 Mentoring Org 
 Apps is Monday, Oct 28th
 at 19:00 UTC*
 *Date: *October 23, 2013 8:58:54 PM EDT
 *To: *google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com
 mailto:google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com

 Hi GSoC Mentors and Org Admins,

 Just a quick reminder that for those organizations interested in 
 participating in Google Code-in
 2013 [0] the deadline to apply is in 5 days - Monday, October 28th at 19:00 
 UTC.

 If your org has decided it would like to apply to participate in the 
 contest, please read the
 Mentor Information [1] to make sure you have the time and capacity to 
 participate in the contest.
 You can then go ahead and fill out the application [2] on Melange now. The 
 person filling out the
 org app must already be registered in Melange from a prior instance of 
 Google Code-in or Google
 Summer of Code in order to access the program application for GCI 2013.

 Please read over the rules for participating as an organization in GCI 
 before applying, they can
 be found on the Organization Agreement [3].

 Again this year the participating organizations will be choosing their top 2 
 contributors during
 the contest period, every org will have 2 students represented on the Grand 
 Prize Trip.

 The most important part of your application is the tasks list, be sure to 
 have at least 4 tasks in
 each of the 5 categories on your app. The Task list gives you an opportunity 
 to think about how
 your org would break up tasks into bite size chunks for students to work on 
 (sometimes this can be
 a bit tricky). This is also a great way for orgs to see how easy/difficult 
 it will be for them to
 come up with tasks for the contest. Orgs should expect to have between 
 150-300 tasks completed by
 students throughout the 7 week program. The orgs that are chosen to 
 participate will need to be
 prepared to have at least 75 tasks on their page when the contest opens for 
 students on Nov 18th.

 If you have any questions please contact this list or you can contact me 
 directly at
 sttay...@google.com mailto:sttay...@google.com. Thanks.

 We will announce the GCI 2013 Mentoring orgs on Friday, November 1st.

 [0] developers.google.com/open-source/gci 
 http://developers.google.com/open-source/gci

 [1] https://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInfo2013
 https://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInfo2013

 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/application/google/gci2013
 http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/application/google/gci2013

 [3] 
 http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/org_admin_agreement
 http://www.google-melange.com/gci/document/show/gci_program/google/gci2013/org_admin_agreement


 Best,
 Stephanie Taylor

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Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Google Code-in 2013 Contest starts this November

[Ulrich Stärk]

FYI

 Original Message 
Subject:[GSoC Mentors] Google Code-in 2013 Contest starts this November
Date:   Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:39:12 -0700
From:   Stephanie Taylor sttay...@google.com
To: Google Summer of Code Mentors List 
google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com



Hello GSoC Mentors,


As you probably read by now we announced [0] that we will be running the Google 
Code-in [1] contest
for 13-17 pre-university students again this November - January 2014. The 
contest will begin for
students on Monday, November 18th, 2013 [2].


Organizations will be able to apply to be one of the 10 mentoring organizations 
starting tomorrow,
 Wednesday, October 9th and the deadline to send in your org application will 
be Monday, October
28th (a week after the Mentor Summit). I will send another email to this list 
tomorrow morning with
a link to the organization application. For some general tips about mentoring 
for GCI you can check
out the GCI Mentor info [3].


We will have a session on Google Code-in during the first day of the Mentor 
Summit for people to
learn more about the program and for previous mentors and org admins to give us 
their feedback and
thoughts on the program.


Important Upcoming Dates:

** October 9, 2013 19:00 UTC - October 28, 2013 at 19:00 UTC - Orgs can go to 
google-melange.com
http://google-melange.com and the org admin can register and fill out the 
application to be a
mentoring organization for Google Code-in 2013.

November 1, 2013 - The 10 Mentoring organizations are announced for Google 
Code-in 2013 and the orgs
can start entering their tasks into the Google system (the tasks will not be 
viewable to students
until the contest opens on Nov 18).

November 18, 2013 17:00 UTC - Google Code-in 2013 contest opens for students.

January 6, 2014 17:00 UTC - Google Code-in 2013 student work ends.

January 8, 2014 17:00 UTC - Deadline for Mentors to evaluate student work

January 13, 2014 - Mentoring Organization deadline for submitting their 2 Grand 
Prize Winners


We hope you will help us spread the word about the Google Code-in contest so we 
can introduce more
young developers to the wonderful world of open source.  If you will be going 
to any talks or
conferences aimed at pre-university students in the next 5-6 weeks we would be 
happy to send you
some cool GCI 2013 stickers. Please contact me directly at sttay...@google.com
mailto:sttay...@google.comif you would like stickers or if you have any 
questions about applying
to be a mentoring organization.


[0]
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2013/10/google-code-in-2013-and-google-summer.htmlhttp://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-code-in-contest-for-high-school.html

[1]
http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2013http://www.google-melange.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012

[2]
http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2013http://www.google-melange.com/gci/events/google/gci2012

[3]
https://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInfo2013http://code.google.com/p/google-code-in/wiki/GCIMentorInformation2012


Thanks,
Stephanie

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mailto:sttay...@google.com |   650-214-1656


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Re: GSoC 2013: non-code projects on website, branding?

[Ulrich Stärk]

I believe GCI will start after GSoC is over, which would be end of next month.

Uli

On 2013-08-24 04:32, Tim Williams wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com 
 wrote:
 On 2 March 2013 17:58, Tim Williams william...@gmail.com wrote:


 Wow, that's pretty awesome, I'd like for us to start participating in
 this - these are tomorrow's committers:)  What a great soft
 introduction!


 Brilliant. Consider yourself committed ;-)

 I'll nag you nearer the time.
 
 Not sure when exactly things start to kick off for this but I wanted
 to just remind you I'm interested in this...
 
 --tim
 

Re: Can you give me advice?

[Ulrich Stärk]

Can we please stop moderating spam?

Thanks,

Uli

On 24.07.2013 18:47, Valera Vlasyuk wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I'm selling a copy of my online form builder project. 
 Maybe you would be interested to open your own online form builder website?
 
 Or know people who will be interested to open such project?
 
 I've created a small promo site to show the features it has. You can check
 it at http://www.primadg.com
 
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 CEO
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 email: c...@phpforms.net
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Fwd: [GSoC Mentors] Re: Google Summer of Code Doc Camp 2013 - Call for Proposals

[Ulrich Stärk]

FYI


 Original Message 
Subject:[GSoC Mentors] Re: Google Summer of Code Doc Camp 2013 - Call 
for Proposals
Date:   Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:58:00 -0700
From:   Mary Radomile ma...@google.com
To: google-summer-of-code-mentors-list 
google-summer-of-code-mentors-l...@googlegroups.com



Hi Everyone-

Sorry about the permission issues with the information page linked in the 
original email. We are
working on the problem now.  Below is all the information you'll need to 
participate:

---

*Google Summer of Code Doc Camp - a partnership of GSoC, Aspiration and FLOSS 
Manuals
*
This is a call for proposals for the 2013 GSoC Doc Camp. Individuals and 
projects are invited to
submit proposals for the GSoC Doc Camp to be held at Google's Mountain View 
headquarters in
California from October 14 - October 18.
*
What is it?*

The GSoC Doc Camp is a place for free software communities to meet, work on 
creating a book for
their project, attract new people to their efforts, and share their 
documentation experiences. The
camp aims to improve free documentation materials and skills in free software 
projects and
individuals and help form the identity of the emergent free documentation 
sector.The Doc Camp will
consist of 2 major components - an unconference and 2-4 short (3 day) Book 
Sprints to produce books
for the selected projects.

The unconference will explore topics proposed by the participants. Any topic on 
free documentation
of free software can be proposed for discussion during the event.

Each Book Sprint will bring together 4-5 individuals to produce a book on a 
specific free software
project. All participants of the Doc Camp must attend a sprint. The books will 
be launched online in
print and ebook formats on the final day of the event.

*Who should come?*
Individuals and free software projects can apply. All individuals will be 
required to work on one of
the selected projects to assist their documentation efforts.

*How to I get involved?*
Individuals with a passion for free documentation about free software may apply 
to attend by filling
out the application form [1] and submitting before August 7. Those wishing to 
attend do not need to
be from a GSoC project. Accommodation and food will be covered by the GSoC Doc 
Camp. Partial or
complete travel costs can also be applied for as part of the application 
process.

Free software projects of any sort can also apply - they do not need to be GSoC 
2013 projects
although these may be given preference.

Projects will be chosen from proposals submitted to the GSoC Doc Camp before 
August 7 through the
application form [2]. Project applications can nominate up to 5 individuals to 
attend and
participate in the proposed sprint. A Project proposal does not have to 
nominate individuals to
participate - you can also use this as an opportunity to promote your project 
to Doc Camp
participants and extend your documentation community. If the proposal is 
accepted the accommodation
and food costs will be covered by the Doc Camp for any listed individuals and 
part or complete
travel costs for each can be applied for (if applicable).

The 2013 GSoC Doc Camp is co-organized by GSoC, Aspiration and FLOSS Manuals. 
Unconference
facilitation conducted by Allen Gunn, and Book Sprint facilitated by Adam Hyde.


*APPLY HERE:*

https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDl6QWlMbDFjcVF2Z1EyQ1d1b1NyN1E6MQ#gid=0


Mary Radomile |  Open Source Programs Office |   ma...@google.com 
mailto:ma...@google.com |
 650-253-6616





On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Mary Radomile ma...@google.com 
mailto:ma...@google.com wrote:

GSoC Mentors, past and present-

This is a call for proposals for the 2013 GSoC Doc Camp to be held at 
Google's Mountain View headquarters in California from Oct 14 - 18, 2013. 
The
Doc Camp is the third consecutive annual camp focused on the production
of free documentation for free software. The 2013 Doc Camp is brought to
you by GSoC, FLOSS Manuals, and Aspiration and is held the week
immediately prior to the GSoC Mentors Summit.

The 2013 Doc Camp will feature:

1) An unconference on free software documentation topics - facilitated
by Allen Gunn of Aspiration

2) 2-5 Book Sprints to produce books on free software - facilitated by
Adam Hyde of FLOSS Manuals

Building on the success of the 2011 and 2012 GSoC Doc Camps, the 2013
GSoC Doc Camp is a place for free software communities to meet, create a
book for their project, attract new people to their efforts, and share
their documentation experiences. The camp aims to improve free
documentation materials for free software projects and helps form
the identity of the emergent free documentation sector.

Both individuals and projects can apply. Food and 

Re: [PROPOSAL] Mentoring related mailing lists

[Ulrich Stärk]

Please make sure to keep code-awards@a.o as an alias for mentors@c.a.o until 
everyone has updated
their address books.

Uli

On 12.06.2013 04:28, Luciano Resende wrote:
 Looks like we have consensus about these changes, I'll create
 Infrastructure jiras to get these changes implemented.
 
 
 On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 
 I echo the same. Both are very good ideas.

 Suresh

 On Jun 8, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) 
 chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:

 +1 to rename code-awards@a.o to mentors@a.o -- seems to be
 mentor traffic always.

 +1 to students@a.o

 Cheers,
 Chris

 ++
 Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
 Senior Computer Scientist
 NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
 Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
 WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
 ++
 Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
 University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
 ++






 -Original Message-
 From: Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 Date: Saturday, June 8, 2013 10:14 AM
 To: Apache ComDev dev@community.apache.org
 Subject: [PROPOSAL] Mentoring related mailing lists

 With the pilot mentor programme that we are starting, I was thinking on
 creating a new mailing lists for the students (e.g students@c.a.o)
 where
 they would discuss general questions and/or issues related to the
 mentoring
 program. I have thought about just using dev@c.a.o  for this, but
 based on
 the GSoC mailing lists experience, I'm a bit afraid to just flood the
 list
 with general questions which then might drive the other users away.

 Also, a minor thing, but does it also make sense to rename code-awards
 to
 mentors@c.a.o ?


 Thoughts ?

 --
 Luciano Resende
 http://people.apache.org/~lresende
 http://twitter.com/lresende1975
 http://lresende.blogspot.com/



 
 

Re: t...@apache.org ?

[Ulrich Stärk]

+0

I'm not against it but I don't actively support it either. Do you know 
release-discuss@? That was
meant as a cross-project list for discussing release issues and has seen seven 
threads within the
last three years with the last one from march last year (excluding cross-list 
announcements). I fear
that any cross-project technical list will face the same fate. But go ahead and 
try ;)

Uli

On 07.05.2013 15:19, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We don't seem to have a place for cross-cutting technical discussions
 at the ASF - language and system issues, standards implementations,
 etc.
 
 To fix this, I suggest creating a public t...@apache.org list, owned
 by comdev, with the following rules:
 
 -Technical discussions on cross-cutting topics that are directly
 related to Apache projects
 
 -Each new thread MUST have one or several [markers] in the subject
 line to identify the topics. For example, [java], [osgi], [linux] etc.
 
 I volunteer to get the list started, as an experiment.
 
 WDYT?
 -Bertrand
 

Re: t...@apache.org ?

[Ulrich Stärk]

We already have a listing at [1]. It's hidden behind 2 clicks from the main 
site. We could use that
as a starting point.

Uli

[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/

On 07.05.2013 18:22, Noah Slater wrote:
 A note to committers@ might be a good first start. But, in general, I
 really think we need to do a better job of communicating the existing
 mailing lists we have. Perhaps a page on the main site, or on the community
 site, would be a good start.
 
 
 On 7 May 2013 16:58, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:
 ...the problem with Yet Another Mailing List, which is that we don't
 know about the ones that we
 already have, and so how will people know about this one. Hmm. Dunno

 We'll tweet about it! Tell the world! Write fantastic things on it so
 that people link to it! Marketing!

 Seriously...that's a problem, but it's easier to be aware of one
 general list than tons of specialized ones.

 -Bertrand

 
 
 

Re: Clarification on students own project

[Ulrich Stärk]

c compiler for blinds
birthday remainder (sic!) app
INTERNSHIP AT APACHE SOFTWARE
...

Those projects normally can simply be ignored.

But I like it that you want go the extra mile and try to identify those that 
might be worth
encouraging to properly propose something.

Going to publish your changes.

Uli

On 02.05.2013 12:43, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 There are quite a few gsoc proposals, proposing their own projects and are 
 hitting totally out of
 the rough. I think we should limit these students to encouraging proposing 
 new ideas to one of
 the ASF projects but not totally new projects. I am not sure if any of these 
 students will bother
 to read the gsoc documentation on the comdev website, but if in case they do, 
 I added a special
 note.
 
 Can you please review and refine the last note in the Students: read this 
 section at -
 http://community.staging.apache.org/gsoc.html. If its ok as is, please 
 publish the changes.
 
 Cheers, Suresh
 

Re: GSoC2013 Apache OpenOffice Project

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hello Edina,

No, I'm not going to be a mentor for Apache OpenOffice, I just happen to be the 
one who created the
filter for the ideas list.

As it says on [1] (linked to from our profile in Melange), you should get in 
touch with the
respective project community directly. In your case that is the Apache 
OpenOffice community. A first
step could have been to comment on the JIRA issue you are interested in. A 
second step could have
been to subscribe to OpenOffice's mailing lists as explained at [2] and thus 
get in touch with the
community directly. I suggest you do one of these now.

Please direct all further communication to the OpenOffice mailing lists or, for 
general questions
about Apache's involvement in Google Summer of Code, to 
dev@community.apache.org.

Good luck with your proposal and Google Summer of Code!

Cheers,

Uli

[1] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html
[2] http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

On 29.04.2013 10:30, Edina Ingrid Valkai wrote:
 Hello,
 
 My name is Edina Ingrid Valkai and I am interested in applying for
 Test Document Generator/Permutator for Apache OpenOffice project within 
 GSoC2013.
 
 Your contact information was the only one which I found related to the 
 project.
 Will you be the mentor for it? Should I contact you for further information?
 Is there a community mailing list which I could join in order to gain more 
 insides regarding how it
 works?
 
 Looking forward to your answer!
 Best regards,
 Edina Valkai 
 
 -- 
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 Tel. +40 742 156 942
 edina.ing...@gmail.com mailto:edina.ing...@gmail.com
 
 

Re: where can i suggest a new project for apache to create?

[Ulrich Stärk]

incubator.apache.org

Cheers,

Uli

On 24.04.2013 15:28, james pruett wrote:
 thanks,
 sorry to barge in.
 I only saw the GsoC which didn't seem appropriate...
 Thanks for any replys!
 -cellurl
 

Re: where can i suggest a new project for apache to create?

[Ulrich Stärk]

incubator.apache.org

Cheers,

Uli

On 24.04.2013 15:28, james pruett wrote:
 thanks,
 sorry to barge in.
 I only saw the GsoC which didn't seem appropriate...
 Thanks for any replys!
 -cellurl
 

Re: svn commit: r1468843 - /comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html

[Ulrich Stärk]

It's still looking a bit odd but I think we can live with it for the time being.

Thanks, published.

Uli

On 20.04.2013 17:24, Suresh Marru wrote:
 
 On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:
 
 +section id=content class=row
 +  div class=span9
 +h3 class=mutedThe Apache Software Foundation/h3
 +  /div
 +  div class=span3 
 class=pull-rightgcse:search/gcse:search/div

 You meant class=span3 pull-right. Also, can you please make it 
 HTML5-compliant [1]? In addition,
 it looks a bit odd in the layout, you could try tweaking it. Bootstrap has a 
 special class for
 search boxes, we should use it.

 Uli

 [1] https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/element#html5
 
 Hi Uli,
 
 I committed the changes, please verify if these address your concerns. Also, 
 the best bootstrap search class I can find was the .navbar-search. I like 
 adding the search bar to the menu it is looking nice and pretty. But that is 
 making the bar wrap into two lines. So I left it in the current position.
 
 Cheers,
 Suresh
 
 P.S. Sorry for not getting to this sooner, I was traveling to and from Boston 
 both on wrong days. Back home and glad Boston is safe now. 
 
 

Re: Google CSE for community website

[Ulrich Stärk]

+1. Go ahead!

On 17.04.2013 04:26, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Kudos to Uli, the new com-dev site is awesome and easily navigable. But given 
 the wealth of information but one needs to know how to navigate to it. Can we 
 add a google search engine to the site? If its ok, I can commit it for review.
 
 Suresh
 
 
 

Re: Call for New Moderation Technology was Re: Call for moderators

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 17.04.2013 12:53, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
 I don't know if this is the right list or not (infra?), but I saw the topic 
 here (and it is the 4th or 5th such request I've seen in the past 3-4 months) 
 and in my mind it relates to improving the community, so I figured I'd 
 discuss here first and then maybe we can take a proposal to infra@.  

Infra for sure.

 
 It really is time for the ASF to modernize moderation and our mailing lists.  
 The current approach is very antiquated compared to other lists/groups I 
 moderate (LinkedIn, Google Groups, Wordpress, etc.) and it is no doubt a 
 drain on what is already a fairly constrained resource (i.e. committers, PMC 
 members and heavy contributors).
 
 Things that I think we need in order to make moderation easier:
 1. Web interface where you can bulk process requests, either accepting in 
 bulk or rejecting in bulk.  The mail by mail approach is horribly tedious and 
 is so often overwhelmed by spam that it takes too long to find the ones that 
 aren't spam.

+1

 2.  Figure out a way for official ASF communications to PMCs, etc. to NOT 
 have to be moderated.  I find it ridiculous after all this time that I have 
 to moderate in messages from board members, or others, etc. to PMC and/or 
 other lists.  There should be official communication channels that authorized 
 people can use when they sign in w/ their ASF credentials.

Ask infra to subscribe your email to all private-allow lists. It's a one-liner 
on the command line
and they'll do it if asked.

 3. Better spam detection such that any email that is NOT spam, after sitting 
 in the queue is automatically sent back to the user w/ instructions on how to 
 subscribe to and properly send mail to the desired list.  Anything that is 
 spam is put into a separate folder automatically and left to die after X days 
 like the current approach.

+1

 
 
 Other mailing list nice to haves:
 1. For user (as opposed to dev) mailing lists, when someone sends an email to 
 the list, automatically do a search in the archives first that replies back 
 w/ potential answers and FAQs, thus offloading the I can't bother to perform 
 a search first questioners.

I don't believe this will change anything. They won't bother reading, the same 
way they didn't
bother doing a search in the first place.

 2. Web interface. Web Interface. Web Interface.  Don't get me wrong, I want a 
 good old fashioned email, but a web interface would bring in a lot more 
 people in my opinion b/c now I can pull instead of being pushed too.  For 
 some lists that I participate in less frequently, this would save a lot of 
 work for my email server while still allowing me to participate in the list.

Nabble. The integration with our mailing lists sucks though. Users still have 
to subscribe and when
they don't (90% of the cases) their emails show up at Nabble but possibly not 
on our lists.

 3. The ability for moderators to pin topics to the top for all users (i.e. 
 FAQs, etc.)

The Welcome message when subscribing can be modified to include an URL to such 
a resource, as can
the footer on messages.

 4. Search

Google: site:mail-archives.apache.org your term here
markmail.org
Nabble

 
 In other words, real forum software.

-1. I want it pushed to me and not having to go poll dozens of websites.

Uli

 
 -Grant
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
 
 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any 
 volunteers?

 Ross

 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
 

Re: svn commit: r1468843 - /comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 17.04.2013 13:30, sma...@apache.org wrote:
 Author: smarru
 Date: Wed Apr 17 11:30:20 2013
 New Revision: 1468843
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1468843
 Log:
 adding a google custom search box
 
 Modified:
 comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html
 
 Modified: comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html?rev=1468843r1=1468842r2=1468843view=diff
 ==
 --- comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html (original)
 +++ comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html Wed Apr 17 11:30:20 2013
 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 -!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
 +!DOCTYPE html
  !--
  
  Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
 @@ -22,7 +22,6 @@
META name=description content=Apache Community Development/
META name=keywords content=apache, apache community, community 
 development, opensource/
  
 -
META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
  !--  LINK rel=stylesheet href=/style/compressed.css 
 type=text/css media=screen, projection
LINK rel=stylesheet href=/style/style.css type=text/css 
 media=screen, projection --
 @@ -135,20 +134,42 @@
  /div
  
div class=container
 -h3 class=mutedThe Apache Software Foundation/h3
 -h4 class=mutedMeritocracy in Action./h4
 +section id=content class=row
 +  div class=span9
 +h3 class=mutedThe Apache Software Foundation/h3
 +  /div
 +  div class=span3 class=pull-rightgcse:search/gcse:search/div

You meant class=span3 pull-right. Also, can you please make it 
HTML5-compliant [1]? In addition,
it looks a bit odd in the layout, you could try tweaking it. Bootstrap has a 
special class for
search boxes, we should use it.

Uli


[1] https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/element#html5

Re: Google CSE for community website

[Ulrich Stärk]

It is faulty, that's why I didn't publish it. Look at my comment on the commit 
diff.

It's not that bad but still should be fixed.

Uli

On 17.04.2013 16:17, Ross Gardler wrote:
 It looks great. Published. Thanks.
 
 Ross
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
 
 
 
 
 On 17 April 2013 13:03, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 +1. Go ahead!

 I committed the search box addition (r1468843), please review it in staging 
 and publish if it is ok - http://community.staging.apache.org/

 Note that, the search points to the published site and not staging.

 Suresh


 On 17.04.2013 04:26, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,

 Kudos to Uli, the new com-dev site is awesome and easily navigable. But 
 given the wealth of information but one needs to know how to navigate to 
 it. Can we add a google search engine to the site? If its ok, I can commit 
 it for review.

 Suresh

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 11.04.2013 15:17, Rich Bowen wrote:
 
 On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:
 
 In this light, 33 is not that bad a number.
 
 
 How does that compare to past years?
 

27 in 2012, so about the same (the 33 also contain some sub-projects). But at 
the same time the
number of our TLPs and podlings grew so the ratio of participating projects is 
lower than last year.

Uli

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

[Ulrich Stärk]

3 months plus community bonding period, so yes, plenty of time to become 
familiar with the project
and product.

Uli

On 11.04.2013 15:25, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 ...Most of our projects need some really in-depth knowledge prior to hacking 
 a smallish task :/...
 
 GSoC is 4 months of work IIRC, should be enough for more than a
 smallish task given capable students.
 
 -Bertrand
 

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 11.04.2013 16:41, Ross Gardler wrote:
 On 11 April 2013 14:26, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:
 
 On 11.04.2013 15:17, Rich Bowen wrote:

 On Apr 10, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Mark Struberg wrote:

 In this light, 33 is not that bad a number.


 How does that compare to past years?


 27 in 2012, so about the same (the 33 also contain some sub-projects). But
 at the same time the
 number of our TLPs and podlings grew so the ratio of participating
 projects is lower than last year.

 
 As I find myself saying every year. It's about quality not quantity.

It's both. I find it an alarming sign that our numbers don't increase with our 
size.

 
 Our pass rate in the ASF is higher than the programme overall. Part of the
 reason for this is that we spend a great deal of time making sure the right
 students get chosen, but also because our mentors are very committed. We
 state that we expect around 5 hours a week from mentors. That is a
 significant commitment but providing that time does give us a higher
 success rate.
 
 Personally, I wouldn't consider 33 projects low. We only get around 35-40
 slots anyway.

I need to correct you. We got 55 slots in 2011 of which 15 were returned and I 
believe almost the
same number last year and again we had to return a significant number because 
we didn't have the
mentors and participating projects to fill them.

Uli

Re: GSoC informational talk this thursday in Berlin

[Ulrich Stärk]

Short summary:

about 30 students attended despite the short notice, some want to apply now. 
The greatest hurdles to
overcome seem to be fears of not being good enough and questions regarding 
their student status that
is tightly coupled to their income (it's complicated here in Germany).

More details soon, I'm exhausted.

Uli

On 09.04.2013 21:49, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Hey folks,
 
 just a short notice: I'm holding an infosession on Google Summer of Code 2013 
 this Thursday
 (2013-04-11) 18:00 at the computer science institute of Freie Universität 
 Berlin, Takustr 9, 14195
 Berlin. If you know of any local student (computer science, mathematics, 
 physics, whatever) who
 might want to participate in GSoC this year, please send them ;)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Uli
 

Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF

[Ulrich Stärk]

On 10.04.2013 19:35, janI wrote:
 On Apr 10, 2013 7:27 PM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 Folks,

 I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects
 that submitted project ideas
 that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of which some are
 subprojects I believe. With 138
 PMCs plus 35 podlings, this is less than one fifth of our projects.

 We only had 34 ideas one week before our application was due.

 I run into committers that are not members of their projects PMCs who are
 eager to be mentors but
 have no clue about what's going on because nobody from the PMC forwarded
 my emails to their dev lists.

 So the problem seems twofold: no interest and not reaching the right
 people. The latter could be
 improved by simply sending to committers@ instead of pmcs@ but it's the
 first that worries me.

 I believe GSoC and every other opportunity to attract new contributors to
 our projects should be a
 key priority of our PMCs. Apparently it's not, for whatever reasons. I
 could think of missing
 cycles, indifference, and wrong priorities.

 So what could we do to increase awareness for the opportunities GSoC
 offers and that this program is
 important to the foundation? Write more emails? Ask the board to mandate
 a section in board reports
 detailing the project's GSoC endeavors? Any ideas?
 
 one suggestion would be to make an apache page,  that in short tell
 1) what should a proposal contain
 2) what is required with asf to be mentor (on a asf project)
 3) a short part about asf and our cooperation with google
 4) How to proceed.
 
 I know you and others have e-mailed all that information, and quite a lot
 more. A page (which are referenced in the e-mail) would make it easy for
 someone like me, to get the information I need fast, and if I feel it, I
 can always find more details.

We have that and I referenced it in my emails: 
http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html

Uli

Re: GSoC 2013 Mentoring Organizations

[Ulrich Stärk]

A little patience please. We are investigating.

Uli

On 09.04.2013 00:30, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Joe Brockmeier wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 8, 2013, at 04:12 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013
 Am I missing something, or did Apache not make it this year?!

 I'm wondering if the list is fully populated. Front page says 177
 organizations, the accepted orgs page says it lists 104.
 
 I confirm that the counter at the bottom displayed 95 organizations about 
 one hour ago and now it
 displays 104. Let's hope Apache will soon be added indeed!
 
 Regards,
   Andrea.

ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013

[Ulrich Stärk]

Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It would 
be cool if we could
get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?

Uli

 Original Message 
Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization for 
Google Summer of Code 2012
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
To: pr...@apache.org
CC: dev@community.apache.org

Hey Sally  Co.,

this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
endeavours. Yesterday, we have
been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013 
[1],[2]. This means that
over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored by 
Google and will be
working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code written 
but also to
introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit some new 
long-term committers.
More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
encouraged to discuss ideas
with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive list of 
already existing
project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from April 
24 until May 3, coding
will take place from June 17 to September 23. See [5] for the detailed timeline.

Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org) before 
publishing?

Thanks,

Uli

[1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013
[2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/apache
[3] 
http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page
[4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2013ideas
[5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013

[Ulrich Stärk]

Any project can be involved. The ones listed at [4] have explicitly submitted 
ideas for students but
that doesn't mean students can't approach projects not mentioned there. I'll 
compile a list from [4]
for you.

Uli

On 09.04.2013 14:16, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 One more thing: do we have a list of Apache projects that will be involved 
 here?
 
 Thanks,
 Sally
  
 
 
 
 *From:* Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 *To:* pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org; Sally Khudairi 
 s...@apache.org
 *Cc:* dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 April 2013, 8:11
 *Subject:* ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2013
 
 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?
 
 Uli
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization 
 for Google Summer of
 Code 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 To: pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org
 CC: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org
 
 Hey Sally  Co.,
 
 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored 
 by Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit 
 some new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive 
 list of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
 April 24 until May 3, coding
 will take place from June 17 to September 23. See [5] for the detailed 
 timeline.
 
 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org) before publishing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Uli
 
 [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013
 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/apache
 [3] 
 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page
 [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2013ideas
 [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013
 
 
 
 

Re: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013

[Ulrich Stärk]

Here's your list:

Accumulo, Airavata, Axiom, Bloodhound, CloudStack, Lenya, OpenOffice, 
ManifoldCF, CouchDB, Crunch,
Giraph, Gora, Hama, Hive, Isis, Jena, Lucene, Mahout, Mesos, Nutch, Ode, 
Openmeetings, Pig, Rat,
SIS, Sling, Solr, Stanbol, Tika, VXQuery, Wookie, XalanJ, XercesJ

It isn't exclusive, these are simply the projects that have submitted project 
ideas. Every student
is free to approach any project and propose an idea (which is also highly 
encouraged).

Cheers,

Uli

On 09.04.2013 14:20, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
 Any project can be involved. The ones listed at [4] have explicitly submitted 
 ideas for students but
 that doesn't mean students can't approach projects not mentioned there. I'll 
 compile a list from [4]
 for you.
 
 Uli
 
 On 09.04.2013 14:16, Sally Khudairi wrote:
 One more thing: do we have a list of Apache projects that will be involved 
 here?

 Thanks,
 Sally
  

 
 
 *From:* Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de
 *To:* pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org; Sally Khudairi 
 s...@apache.org
 *Cc:* dev@community.apache.org dev@community.apache.org
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 April 2013, 8:11
 *Subject:* ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of 
 Code 2013

 Recycling last years email on the topic. All dates and links updated. It 
 would be cool if we could
 get this out asap. Is there anything else you need?

 Uli

  Original Message 
 Subject: Apache Software Foundation accepted as a mentoring organization 
 for Google Summer of
 Code 2012
 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:21:40 +0100
 From: Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de mailto:u...@spielviel.de
 To: pr...@apache.org mailto:pr...@apache.org
 CC: dev@community.apache.org mailto:dev@community.apache.org

 Hey Sally  Co.,

 this year we won't forget to provide you with some infos on our GSoC 
 endeavours. Yesterday, we have
 been accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2013 
 [1],[2]. This means that
 over the summer, our committers will mentor students that are sponsored 
 by Google and will be
 working on our projects. The program helps us not only to get some code 
 written but also to
 introduce students into open source development and hopefully recruit 
 some new long-term committers.
 More information on the program is available at [3]. Students are now 
 encouraged to discuss ideas
 with the respective projects and begin drafting proposals. An extensive 
 list of already existing
 project ideas is available at [4]. The actual application phase is from 
 April 24 until May 3, coding
 will take place from June 17 to September 23. See [5] for the detailed 
 timeline.

 Can you please run any press release past us (dev@community.apache.org
 mailto:dev@community.apache.org) before publishing?

 Thanks,

 Uli

 [1] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013
 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/apache
 [3] 
 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page
 [4] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2013ideas
 [5] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013

GSoC informational talk this thursday in Berlin

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hey folks,

just a short notice: I'm holding an infosession on Google Summer of Code 2013 
this Thursday
(2013-04-11) 18:00 at the computer science institute of Freie Universität 
Berlin, Takustr 9, 14195
Berlin. If you know of any local student (computer science, mathematics, 
physics, whatever) who
might want to participate in GSoC this year, please send them ;)

Cheers,

Uli

Re: Mahout in GSOC 2013

[Ulrich Stärk]

Hey Dan,

On 26.03.2013 18:25, Dan Filimon wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm working on Mahout and have just realized the deadline for GSOC is
 this week! We haven't made up a list of ideas or found mentors yet.
 
 Are we too late?
 

Almost. Did none of my two emails to your private list get through?

Anyway. Label your issues in JIRA with mentor and gsoc2013 and they'll show 
up in our ideas list
automatically. If Mahout doesn't use JIRA, file the issue against the COMDEV 
project in JIRA.
Application deadline for us is the 29th. That means our ideas list should be 
done by then.

Mentor applications will come later, once we are accepted.

Cheers,

Uli