[DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I really don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same (not sure where they actually diverge though). I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of Felix, so I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
On 5/14/10 6:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I really don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same (not sure where they actually diverge though). I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of Felix, so I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. I'd say the biggest benefits are the additional oversight and a bigger community getting to listen and respond to any OSGi-related issues that were encountered. Ultimately, perhaps, the Felix community is more geared toward creating general building blocks rather than trying to create an overarching effort to integrate those building blocks for a specific purpose. Creating such OSGi-related building blocks was the goal of the original project proposal and is a reason why I try to push for getting general OSGi-related building blocks into Felix. Overall, I think things have gone well, but if the people directly involved with Karaf want to take it TLP, then I support that decision. We'll still continue to collaborate through the building blocks. -> richard
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
I think that Karaf being part of Felix has been constructive for both projects, and has certainly exposed Karaf to a wider community (moving out of ServiceMix). I do hope that some Felix committers will want to come along as well if Karaf goes TLP, and that the community at large will follow the project wherever it may be. I have always hoped that Karaf could go TLP at some point, and I actually think that it will be easier to expand the community and encourage community participation with a more focused project. I think that developers interested in Karaf aren't always interested in the building blocks, and the scope of all the Felix subprojects can be daunting for those wanting to get involved only with Karaf. I think there are quite a few out there in this category based on the feedback I have received. Expanding and opening up the Karaf community would be a big boost to the project, and I think being a TLP will help make that possible. Just my 2 cents :-) Chris On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > On 5/14/10 6:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > >> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> really >> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >> (not sure >> where they actually diverge though). >> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part >> of >> Felix, so >> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >> > > I'd say the biggest benefits are the additional oversight and a bigger > community getting to listen and respond to any OSGi-related issues that were > encountered. > I hope that > > Ultimately, perhaps, the Felix community is more geared toward creating > general building blocks rather than trying to create an overarching effort > to integrate those building blocks for a specific purpose. Creating such > OSGi-related building blocks was the goal of the original project proposal > and is a reason why I try to push for getting general OSGi-related building > blocks into Felix. > > Overall, I think things have gone well, but if the people directly involved > with Karaf want to take it TLP, then I support that decision. We'll still > continue to collaborate through the building blocks. > > -> richard >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
So far I think the move to the Felix project from Karaf's Servicemix Kernel roots has been very positive. It has introduced new contributors and exposed Karaf to new ideas/concerns. That being said I think that moving Karaf again, this time to a TLP, will help promote another growth expansion, attracting a wider audience of users & contributors. I'm sure that karaf will retain a close connection to the Felix community as it has kept close to Servicemix. Cheers, Jamie On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Chris Custine wrote: > I think that Karaf being part of Felix has been constructive for both > projects, and has certainly exposed Karaf to a wider community (moving out > of ServiceMix). I do hope that some Felix committers will want to come > along as well if Karaf goes TLP, and that the community at large will follow > the project wherever it may be. > > I have always hoped that Karaf could go TLP at some point, and I actually > think that it will be easier to expand the community and encourage community > participation with a more focused project. I think that developers > interested in Karaf aren't always interested in the building blocks, and the > scope of all the Felix subprojects can be daunting for those wanting to get > involved only with Karaf. I think there are quite a few out there in this > category based on the feedback I have received. Expanding and opening up > the Karaf community would be a big boost to the project, and I think being a > TLP will help make that possible. > > Just my 2 cents :-) > > Chris > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > >> On 5/14/10 6:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >> >>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>> really >>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >>> (not sure >>> where they actually diverge though). >>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part >>> of >>> Felix, so >>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>> >>> >> >> I'd say the biggest benefits are the additional oversight and a bigger >> community getting to listen and respond to any OSGi-related issues that were >> encountered. >> > > I hope that > > >> >> Ultimately, perhaps, the Felix community is more geared toward creating >> general building blocks rather than trying to create an overarching effort >> to integrate those building blocks for a specific purpose. Creating such >> OSGi-related building blocks was the goal of the original project proposal >> and is a reason why I try to push for getting general OSGi-related building >> blocks into Felix. >> >> Overall, I think things have gone well, but if the people directly involved >> with Karaf want to take it TLP, then I support that decision. We'll still >> continue to collaborate through the building blocks. >> >> -> richard >> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Hi, We got lot of benefits to move ServiceMix Kernel to Felix Karaf: more contributors, new horizons and features, etc. I think that moving Karaf as a TLP will give the same. It will be appear more clearly for the users as a complete and very wide OSGi kernel. So totally agree to move Karaf as a TLP. Regards JB On 05/14/2010 12:20 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I really don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same (not sure where they actually diverge though). I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of Felix, so I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré - HomePage http://www.nanthrax.net - Contacts jbono...@apache.org j...@nanthrax.net - OpenSource BuildProcess/AutoDeploy http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net Apache ServiceMix http://servicemix.apache.org --- PGP : 17D4F086
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really expressed any opinion). I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board, which would include: * the project goal * the project PMC (including the chair) In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for committership (but that can be discussed later). I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to a machine learning platform for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to XXX; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Karaf Project: * xxx > * ... NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Mahout Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. > Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as > being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none > of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I > really > don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same > (not sure > where they actually diverge though). > I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part > of Felix, so > I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com > > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
+1 to contribute. Regards JB -Original Message- From: Guillaume Nodet Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 07:40:05 To: dev Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really expressed any opinion). I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board, which would include: * the project goal * the project PMC (including the chair) In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for committership (but that can be discussed later). I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to a machine learning platform for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to XXX; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Karaf Project: * xxx > * ... NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Mahout Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. > Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as > being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none > of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I > really > don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same > (not sure > where they actually diverge though). > I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part > of Felix, so > I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com > > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
I'd like to be a part of this TLP. many thanks david jencks On May 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst > people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really > expressed any opinion). > > I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board, > which would include: > * the project goal > * the project PMC (including the chair) > > In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite > anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands > so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now > would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for > committership (but that can be discussed later). > > I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but > anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. > > FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > open-source software related to a machine learning platform > for distribution at no charge to the public. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > related to XXX; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility > for management of the projects within the scope of > responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > Apache Karaf Project: > > * xxx > > * ... > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > encourage open development and increased participation in the > Apache Mahout Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the > Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > >> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> really >> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >> (not sure >> where they actually diverge though). >> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part >> of Felix, so >> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Likewise I'd also like to participate and agree that this is the right direction for Karaf. Count me in. Regards, Alex Karasulu On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:37 AM, David Jencks wrote: > I'd like to be a part of this TLP. > > many thanks > david jencks > > On May 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > > > It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst > > people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really > > expressed any opinion). > > > > I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the > board, > > which would include: > > * the project goal > > * the project PMC (including the chair) > > > > In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite > > anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise > hands > > so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now > > would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for > > committership (but that can be discussed later). > > > > I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but > > anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. > > > > FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : > > > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > open-source software related to a machine learning platform > > for distribution at no charge to the public. > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", > > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > Foundation; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is > > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > related to XXX; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be > > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility > > for management of the projects within the scope of > > responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > Apache Karaf Project: > > > > * xxx > > > * ... > > > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X > > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to > > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > encourage open development and increased participation in the > > Apache Mahout Project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > > > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > > Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the > > Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > > > >> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. > >> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as > >> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that > none > >> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I > >> really > >> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same > >> (not sure > >> where they actually diverge though). > >> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being > part > >> of Felix, so > >> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers, > >> Guillaume Nodet > >> > >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> Open Source SOA > >> http://fusesource.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Guillaume Nodet > > > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > > > Open Source SOA > > http://fusesource.com > > -- Alex Karasulu My Blog :: http://www.jroller.com/akarasulu/ Apache Directory Server :: http://directory.apache.org Apache MINA :: http://mina.
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
+1 I'm on board :) Cheers, Jamie On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: > Likewise I'd also like to participate and agree that this is the right > direction for Karaf. Count me in. > > Regards, > Alex Karasulu > > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:37 AM, David Jencks wrote: > >> I'd like to be a part of this TLP. >> >> many thanks >> david jencks >> >> On May 27, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >> >> > It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst >> > people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really >> > expressed any opinion). >> > >> > I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the >> board, >> > which would include: >> > * the project goal >> > * the project PMC (including the chair) >> > >> > In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite >> > anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise >> hands >> > so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now >> > would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for >> > committership (but that can be discussed later). >> > >> > I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but >> > anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. >> > >> > FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : >> > >> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >> > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> > open-source software related to a machine learning platform >> > for distribution at no charge to the public. >> > >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >> > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >> > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >> > Foundation; and be it further >> > >> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >> > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >> > related to XXX; and be it further >> > >> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >> > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >> > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >> > of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >> > for management of the projects within the scope of >> > responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >> > >> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >> > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >> > Apache Karaf Project: >> > >> > * xxx > >> > * ... >> > >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >> > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >> > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >> > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >> > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >> > >> > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >> > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >> > encourage open development and increased participation in the >> > Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >> > >> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >> > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >> > Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >> > >> > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >> > Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >> > Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >> > >> >> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> >> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> >> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >> none >> >> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> >> really >> >> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >> >> (not sure >> >> where they actually diverge though). >> >> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >> part >> >> of Felix, so >> >> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cheers, >> >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> Open Source SOA >> >> http://fusesource.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Guillaume Nodet >> > >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> > ---
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Question: Is a formal vote necessary to start this process or is our informal consensus enough? -> richard On 5/28/10 1:40, Guillaume Nodet wrote: It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really expressed any opinion). I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board, which would include: * the project goal * the project PMC (including the chair) In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for committership (but that can be discussed later). I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to a machine learning platform for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to XXX; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Karaf Project: * xxx> * ... NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Mahout Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I really don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same (not sure where they actually diverge though). I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of Felix, so I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
I think the Felix PMC needs to vote on the resolution that would be proposed to the board, at least that's what happened in the few subproject to tlp moved i've been involved in. However, i'd like to have the proposed resolution agreed on before starting a vote, as I don't see the need for two related votes. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 15:30, Richard S. Hall wrote: > Question: Is a formal vote necessary to start this process or is our > informal consensus enough? > > -> richard > > > On 5/28/10 1:40, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > >> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst >> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really >> expressed any opinion). >> >> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the >> board, >> which would include: >> * the project goal >> * the project PMC (including the chair) >> >> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite >> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise >> hands >> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now >> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for >> committership (but that can be discussed later). >> >> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but >> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. >> >> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : >> >>WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>open-source software related to a machine learning platform >>for distribution at no charge to the public. >> >>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >>be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>Foundation; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >>responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>related to XXX; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >>and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>for management of the projects within the scope of >>responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>Apache Karaf Project: >> >> * xxx> >> * ... >> >>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>encourage open development and increased participation in the >>Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >> >>RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >> >> >> >>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>> really >>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >>> (not sure >>> where they actually diverge though). >>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part >>> of Felix, so >>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Guillaume Nodet >>> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Open Source SOA >>> http://fusesource.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
On 5/28/10 10:16, Guillaume Nodet wrote: I think the Felix PMC needs to vote on the resolution that would be proposed to the board, at least that's what happened in the few subproject to tlp moved i've been involved in. However, i'd like to have the proposed resolution agreed on before starting a vote, as I don't see the need for two related votes. Sounds reasonable to me. -> richard On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 15:30, Richard S. Hall wrote: Question: Is a formal vote necessary to start this process or is our informal consensus enough? -> richard On 5/28/10 1:40, Guillaume Nodet wrote: It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really expressed any opinion). I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board, which would include: * the project goal * the project PMC (including the chair) In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for committership (but that can be discussed later). I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to a machine learning platform for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to XXX; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Karaf Project: * xxx> * ... NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Mahout Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I really don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same (not sure where they actually diverge though). I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of Felix, so I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Hi, On 28.05.2010 07:40, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst > people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really > expressed any opinion). I haven't expressed, since I am mixed emotions... Maybe it is really best to have Karaf be a TLP. > > I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board, > which would include: > * the project goal > * the project PMC (including the chair) > > In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite > anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands > so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now > would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for > committership (but that can be discussed later). > > I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but > anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. > > FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >open-source software related to a machine learning platform ---^ Really ? ;-) >for distribution at no charge to the public. > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >Foundation; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >related to XXX; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >for management of the projects within the scope of >responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >Apache Karaf Project: > > * xxx > > * ... > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X Do you want to discuss this on private@ or is there a single candidate, we can applaude into taking this position ? >be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >encourage open development and increased participation in the >Apache Mahout Project; and be it further Well, this is of course not Mahout. And: Is this paragraph required. I might remember, that this is not the case any longer. > >RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > >RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > Otherwise +1 Regards Felix > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > >> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> really >> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >> (not sure >> where they actually diverge though). >> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part >> of Felix, so >> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com >> >> >> > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
I would like to be involved with this TLP as well. Thanks, Jarek On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst > people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really > expressed any opinion). > > I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board, > which would include: > * the project goal > * the project PMC (including the chair) > > In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite > anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands > so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now > would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for > committership (but that can be discussed later). > > I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but > anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. > > FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > open-source software related to a machine learning platform > for distribution at no charge to the public. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > related to XXX; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility > for management of the projects within the scope of > responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > Apache Karaf Project: > > * xxx > > * ... > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > encourage open development and increased participation in the > Apache Mahout Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the > Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > >> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> really >> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >> (not sure >> where they actually diverge though). >> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part >> of Felix, so >> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
think it's just that the interest are not the same >>> (not sure >>> where they actually diverge though). >>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>> part >>> of Felix, so >>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Guillaume Nodet >>> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Open Source SOA >>> http://fusesource.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com >> > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
;> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >>> >>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>> none >>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>> really >>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >>>> (not sure >>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>> part >>>> of Felix, so >>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>> >>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> Open Source SOA >>>> http://fusesource.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Guillaume Nodet >>> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Open Source SOA >>> http://fusesource.com >>> >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html > Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
;be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to > >>>serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > >>>Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > >>>death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > >>>or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > >>> > >>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > >>>tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > >>>encourage open development and increased participation in the > >>>Apache Mahout Project; and be it further > >>> > >>>RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > >>>is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > >>>Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > >>> > >>>RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > >>>Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the > >>>Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. > >>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as > >>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that > >>>> none > >>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I > >>>> really > >>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the > same > >>>> (not sure > >>>> where they actually diverge though). > >>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being > >>>> part > >>>> of Felix, so > >>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Guillaume Nodet > >>>> > >>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > >>>> > >>>> Open Source SOA > >>>> http://fusesource.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Cheers, > >>> Guillaume Nodet > >>> > >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > >>> > >>> Open Source SOA > >>> http://fusesource.com > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html > > Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
sponsibility >> >>> for management of the projects within the scope of >> >>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >> >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >> >>> Apache Karaf Project: >> >>> >> >>> * xxx > >> >>> * ... >> >>> >> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >> >>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >> >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >> >>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >> >>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >> >>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >> >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >> >>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >> >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >> >>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >> >>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >> >>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> >>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> >>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >> >>>> none >> >>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> >>>> really >> >>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >> same >> >>>> (not sure >> >>>> where they actually diverge though). >> >>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >> >>>> part >> >>>> of Felix, so >> >>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>>> >> >>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>>> >> >>>> Open Source SOA >> >>>> http://fusesource.com >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>> >> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>> >> >>> Open Source SOA >> >>> http://fusesource.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >> > Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
d of Directors deems it to be in the best >> >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> >>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform >> >>> for distribution at no charge to the public. >> >>> >> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >> >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >> >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >> >>> Foundation; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >> >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >> >>> related to XXX; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >> >>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >> >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >> >>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >> >>> for management of the projects within the scope of >> >>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >> >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >> >>> Apache Karaf Project: >> >>> >> >>> * xxx > >> >>> * ... >> >>> >> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >> >>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >> >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >> >>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >> >>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >> >>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >> >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >> >>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >> >>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >> >>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >> >>> >> >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >> >>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >> >>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> >>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> >>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >> >>>> none >> >>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> >>>> really >> >>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >> same >> >>>> (not sure >> >>>> where they actually diverge though). >> >>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >> >>>> part >> >>>> of Felix, so >> >>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>>> >> >>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>>> >> >>>> Open Source SOA >> >>>> http://fusesource.com >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>> >> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>> >> >>> Open Source SOA >> >>> http://fusesource.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >> > Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
ell. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Jarek > >> >> > >> >> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > >> >>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst > >> >>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really > >> >>> expressed any opinion). > >> >>> > >> >>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the > >> >>> board, > >> >>> which would include: > >> >>> * the project goal > >> >>> * the project PMC (including the chair) > >> >>> > >> >>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite > >> >>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise > >> >>> hands > >> >>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now > >> >>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for > >> >>> committership (but that can be discussed later). > >> >>> > >> >>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but > >> >>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. > >> >>> > >> >>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : > >> >>> > >> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > >> >>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > >> >>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > >> >>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > >> >>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform > >> >>> for distribution at no charge to the public. > >> >>> > >> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > >> >>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", > >> >>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > >> >>> Foundation; and be it further > >> >>> > >> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is > >> >>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > >> >>> related to XXX; and be it further > >> >>> > >> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be > >> >>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > >> >>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > >> >>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility > >> >>> for management of the projects within the scope of > >> >>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > >> >>> > >> >>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > >> >>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > >> >>> Apache Karaf Project: > >> >>> > >> >>> * xxx > > >> >>> * ... > >> >>> > >> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X > >> >>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to > >> >>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > >> >>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > >> >>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > >> >>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > >> >>> > >> >>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > >> >>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > >> >>> encourage open development and increased participation in the > >> >>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further > >> >>> > >> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > >> >>> is tasked with the migration a
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
>>>>>> * ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>>>>>>be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>>>>serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>>>Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>>>death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>>>or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>>>>tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>>encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>>Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>>>>is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>>Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>>Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>>>>Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>>>> none >>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>> same >>>>>>>> (not sure >>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Guillaume Nodet >>> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Open Source SOA >>> http://fusesource.com >>> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
t;>>> > >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is > >>>>>>>responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > >>>>>>>related to XXX; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" > be > >>>>>>>and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > >>>>>>>serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the > chair > >>>>>>>of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary > responsibility > >>>>>>>for management of the projects within the scope of > >>>>>>>responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it > further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > >>>>>>>hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > >>>>>>>Apache Karaf Project: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> * xxx > > >>>>>>> * ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X > >>>>>>>be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, > to > >>>>>>>serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > >>>>>>>Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > >>>>>>>death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > >>>>>>>or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > >>>>>>>tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > >>>>>>>encourage open development and increased participation in > the > >>>>>>>Apache Mahout Project; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > >>>>>>>is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the > Apache > >>>>>>>Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > >>>>>>>Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the > >>>>>>>Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. > >>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community > as > >>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks > that > >>>>>>>> none > >>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. > I > >>>>>>>> really > >>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not > the > >>>> same > >>>>>>>> (not sure > >>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). > >>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing > being > >>>>>>>> part > >>>>>>>> of Felix, so > >>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA > >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Open Source SOA > >>>>>>> http://fusesource.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> View this message in context: > >>>> > http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html > >>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Cheers, > >>> Guillaume Nodet > >>> > >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > >>> > >>> Open Source SOA > >>> http://fusesource.com > >>> > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Guillaume Nodet > > > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > > > Open Source SOA > > http://fusesource.com > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
the following, we just need to fill the : >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >> >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> >>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform >> >>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >> >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >> >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >> >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >> >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >> >>>>>>> related to XXX; and be it further >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" >> be >> >>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >> >>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the >> chair >> >>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary >> responsibility >> >>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >> >>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it >> further >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >> >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >> >>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> * xxx > >> >>>>>>> * ... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >> >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, >> to >> >>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> >>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >> >>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >> >>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >> >>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >> >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in >> the >> >>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >> >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the >> Apache >> >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >> >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >> >>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> >>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community >> as >> >>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks >> that >> >>>>>>>> none >> >>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. >> I >> >>>>>>>> really >> >>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not >> the >> >>>> same >> >>>>>>>> (not sure >> >>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >> >>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing >> being >> >>>>>>>> part >> >>>>>>>> of Felix, so >> >>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >> >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Open Source SOA >> >>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> View this message in context: >> >>>> >> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >> >>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Guillaume Nodet >> >>> >> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >>> >> >>> Open Source SOA >> >>> http://fusesource.com >> >>> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Guillaume Nodet >> > >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > Open Source SOA >> > http://fusesource.com >> >> >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
t;> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * xxx > >>>>>>>> * ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>>>>> none >>>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>>> same >>>>>>>>> (not sure >>>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>> >>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> Open Source SOA >>>> http://fusesource.com >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
7;t blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same (not sure where they actually diverge though). I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of Felix, so I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ -------- Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Freeman Fang Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
person holding such office to >>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >>>>> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >>>>> >>>>> * xxx > >>>>> * ... >>>>> >>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>> >>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>> >>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>> none >>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>> really >>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>>>> same >>>>>> (not sure >>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>> part >>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>> >>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>> >>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> > > > -- > Freeman Fang > > Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
n-source software related to a machine learning platform >>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public. >>>>>> >>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >>>>>> >>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>>>>> related to XXX; and be it further >>>>>> >>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >>>>>> >>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >>>>>> >>>>>> * xxx > >>>>>> * ... >>>>>> >>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>> >>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>>> >>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>>> >>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>>> none >>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>>> really >>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>>>>> same >>>>>>> (not sure >>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>>> part >>>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>> >>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> Freeman Fang >> >> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com >> >> > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
ould have a very low entry bar for >>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but >>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform >>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>>>>>> related to XXX; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * xxx > >>>>>>> * ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>>>> none >>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> (not sure >>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Freeman Fang >>> >>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
t;>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but >>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform >>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>>>>>> related to XXX; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * xxx > >>>>>>> * ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>>>> none >>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> (not sure >>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Freeman Fang >>> >>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
cluding the chair) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite >>>>>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise >>>>>>>> hands >>>>>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now >>>>>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for >>>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but >>>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform >>>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>>>>>>> related to XXX; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * xxx > >>>>>>>> * ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>>>>> none >>>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>> (not sure >>>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Freeman Fang >>>> >>>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Here is nearly full proposal. The chair name is missing. I volunteer to take it at the begining if no one else want to step up. = WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise servers for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise servers; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Karaf Project: * Chris Custine * Freeman Fang * Jarek Gawor * Jamie Goodyear * David Jencks * Alex Karasulu * Charles Moulliard * Guillaume Nodet * Jean-Baptiste Onofré * Gert Vanthienen NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. === On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. > Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as > being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none > of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I > really > don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same > (not sure > where they actually diverge though). > I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of > Felix, so > I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com > > > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Looks good.. +1 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > Here is nearly full proposal. The chair name is missing. I volunteer > to take it at the begining if no one else want to step up. > > = > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > open-source software related to an OSGI based runtime for > creating enterprise servers for distribution at no charge > to the public. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > related to an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise > servers; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility > for management of the projects within the scope of > responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > Apache Karaf Project: > > * Chris Custine > * Freeman Fang > * Jarek Gawor > * Jamie Goodyear > * David Jencks > * Alex Karasulu > * Charles Moulliard > * Guillaume Nodet > * Jean-Baptiste Onofré > * Gert Vanthienen > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X > > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > encourage open development and increased participation in the > Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the > Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > > === > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> really >> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >> (not sure >> where they actually diverge though). >> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of >> Felix, so >> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com >> >> >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com > -- Regards, Hiram Blog: http://hiramchirino.com Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com/
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
+1 Freeman On 2010-6-2, at 下午5:02, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Here is nearly full proposal. The chair name is missing. I volunteer to take it at the begining if no one else want to step up. = WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise servers for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise servers; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Karaf Project: * Chris Custine * Freeman Fang * Jarek Gawor * Jamie Goodyear * David Jencks * Alex Karasulu * Charles Moulliard * Guillaume Nodet * Jean-Baptiste Onofré * Gert Vanthienen NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. === On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I really don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same (not sure where they actually diverge though). I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part of Felix, so I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com -- Freeman Fang Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
+1 -- Chris Custine FUSESource :: http://fusesource.com My Blog :: http://blog.organicelement.com Apache ServiceMix :: http://servicemix.apache.org Apache Felix :: http://felix.apache.org Apache Directory Server :: http://directory.apache.org On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 03:02, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > Here is nearly full proposal. The chair name is missing. I volunteer > to take it at the begining if no one else want to step up. > > = > > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > open-source software related to an OSGI based runtime for > creating enterprise servers for distribution at no charge > to the public. > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > Foundation; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is > responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > related to an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise > servers; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be > and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility > for management of the projects within the scope of > responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > Apache Karaf Project: > > * Chris Custine > * Freeman Fang > * Jarek Gawor > * Jamie Goodyear > * David Jencks > * Alex Karasulu > * Charles Moulliard > * Guillaume Nodet > * Jean-Baptiste Onofré > * Gert Vanthienen > > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X > > be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is > tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > encourage open development and increased participation in the > Apache Karaf Project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further > > RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the > Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. > > === > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > > Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. > > Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as > > being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none > > of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I > > really > > don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same > > (not sure > > where they actually diverge though). > > I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part > of > > Felix, so > > I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Guillaume Nodet > > > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > > > Open Source SOA > > http://fusesource.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com >
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
+1 Jamie On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Chris Custine wrote: > +1 > > -- > Chris Custine > FUSESource :: http://fusesource.com > My Blog :: http://blog.organicelement.com > Apache ServiceMix :: http://servicemix.apache.org > Apache Felix :: http://felix.apache.org > Apache Directory Server :: http://directory.apache.org > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 03:02, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > >> Here is nearly full proposal. The chair name is missing. I volunteer >> to take it at the begining if no one else want to step up. >> >> = >> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >> open-source software related to an OSGI based runtime for >> creating enterprise servers for distribution at no charge >> to the public. >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >> Foundation; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >> related to an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise >> servers; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >> for management of the projects within the scope of >> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >> Apache Karaf Project: >> >> * Chris Custine >> * Freeman Fang >> * Jarek Gawor >> * Jamie Goodyear >> * David Jencks >> * Alex Karasulu >> * Charles Moulliard >> * Guillaume Nodet >> * Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> * Gert Vanthienen >> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that X >> >> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >> encourage open development and increased participation in the >> Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >> >> === >> >> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote: >> > Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >> > Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >> > being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none >> > of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >> > really >> > don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same >> > (not sure >> > where they actually diverge though). >> > I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part >> of >> > Felix, so >> > I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Guillaume Nodet >> > >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > Open Source SOA >> > http://fusesource.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Guillaume Nodet >> >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >> >> Open Source SOA >> http://fusesource.com >> >
