Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi Friedel, F Wolff schrieb: I would really like to know these details, since it is definitely our intention to report at least all the errors that gsicheck reports. Speaking of all the tools, I am just a user. Speaking of the workflow - I am a beginner. So - I can report some of my findings but I cannot judge them. Please help us if there are any errors that we missed - perhaps they were added to gsicheck more recently, or there is a bug in our error detection around this. I believe the quality checks is a powerful way for translators to review possibly problematic strings. l10n engineers would be more experienced to explain that. Unfortunately I don'thave the time to give a more detailed report at the moement. I hope, I'll have the time in a couple of weeks. André - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi Aijin, Aijin Kim schrieb: > Hi Gregor, > > Gregor Hartmann wrote: >> Hi, just to be sure: are these errors detected by the gsicheck tool >> which I maintain or is it some other tool(s). >> > > I used the gsicheck 1.8.7 which was downloaded from OO.o web page and > ran below command: > gsicheck -f -we -wc [sdf] just using the -f switch just cahnges the errormessage of the issues that *could* be fixed automatically. It does not fix anything. To actually fix things you would have to use -wf and get a file name_fix.sdf containing the fixes which would have to get reimported. Note that the _fix.sdf file can still contain errors which could not be fixed automatically. Regards Gregor >> Would it be possible to add an automatic check with gsicheck and have >> the errorfiles along with the errormessages ready for download >> somewhere? That might help some translators. >> > > It'd be helpful to recognize issues. Thanks for your comment. > > Regards, > Aijin > >> Just my 2c >> Gregor >> >> >> Aijin Kim schrieb: >> >>> Hi Pootle translation lead, >>> >>> All the Pootle translation was submitted via IssueTracker. You can add >>> yourself as cc to the issue to track the progress. >>> >>> However, several languages still have gsicheck errors to be fixed and >>> the strings have format errors won't be imported to the database. So >>> please **check the issue of your language and have the strings fixed >>> ASAP**. >>> You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue >>> description. >>> >>> >>> Here is the list of the issue # for each language: >>> >>> Arabic http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87973 >>> Bengali http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87975 >>> Catalan http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87976 >>> Chinese (Simplified) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87996 >>> Chinese (Traditional) >>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87997 >>> Dutch http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87986 >>> French http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87982 >>> German http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87980 >>> Italian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87983 >>> Japanese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88000 >>> Klingon http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87992 >>> Korean http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87984 >>> Kurdish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87985 >>> Occitan-Lengadocian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87987 >>> Portuguese (Brazil) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87988 >>> Russian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=879819 >>> Spanish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87981 >>> Swedish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87990 >>> Turkish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87993 >>> Ukrainian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87994 >>> Vietnamese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87995 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Aijin >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi Gregor, Gregor Hartmann wrote: > Hi, just to be sure: are these errors detected by the gsicheck tool > which I maintain or is it some other tool(s). > I used the gsicheck 1.8.7 which was downloaded from OO.o web page and ran below command: gsicheck -f -we -wc [sdf] > > Would it be possible to add an automatic check with gsicheck and have > the errorfiles along with the errormessages ready for download > somewhere? That might help some translators. > It'd be helpful to recognize issues. Thanks for your comment. Regards, Aijin > Just my 2c > Gregor > > > Aijin Kim schrieb: > >> Hi Pootle translation lead, >> >> All the Pootle translation was submitted via IssueTracker. You can add >> yourself as cc to the issue to track the progress. >> >> However, several languages still have gsicheck errors to be fixed and >> the strings have format errors won't be imported to the database. So >> please **check the issue of your language and have the strings fixed >> ASAP**. >> You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue >> description. >> >> >> Here is the list of the issue # for each language: >> >> Arabic http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87973 >> Bengali http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87975 >> Catalan http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87976 >> Chinese (Simplified) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87996 >> Chinese (Traditional) >> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87997 >> Dutch http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87986 >> French http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87982 >> German http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87980 >> Italian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87983 >> Japanese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88000 >> Klingon http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87992 >> Korean http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87984 >> Kurdish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87985 >> Occitan-Lengadocian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87987 >> Portuguese (Brazil) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87988 >> Russian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=879819 >> Spanish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87981 >> Swedish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87990 >> Turkish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87993 >> Ukrainian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87994 >> Vietnamese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87995 >> >> Thanks, >> Aijin >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi, just to be sure: are these errors detected by the gsicheck tool which I maintain or is it some other tool(s). if it is some other tool, so it would be good to pick a different name to avoid confusion. I had a look at some of the errors and to me it seems as if there are quite a lot of false positives. meaning errors are detected where there are no errors. Would it be possible to add an automatic check with gsicheck and have the errorfiles along with the errormessages ready for download somewhere? That might help some translators. Just my 2c Gregor Aijin Kim schrieb: > Hi Pootle translation lead, > > All the Pootle translation was submitted via IssueTracker. You can add > yourself as cc to the issue to track the progress. > > However, several languages still have gsicheck errors to be fixed and > the strings have format errors won't be imported to the database. So > please **check the issue of your language and have the strings fixed > ASAP**. > You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue > description. > > > Here is the list of the issue # for each language: > > Arabic http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87973 > Bengali http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87975 > Catalan http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87976 > Chinese (Simplified) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87996 > Chinese (Traditional) > http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87997 > Dutch http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87986 > French http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87982 > German http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87980 > Italian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87983 > Japanese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88000 > Klingon http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87992 > Korean http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87984 > Kurdish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87985 > Occitan-Lengadocian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87987 > Portuguese (Brazil) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87988 > Russian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=879819 > Spanish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87981 > Swedish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87990 > Turkish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87993 > Ukrainian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87994 > Vietnamese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87995 > > Thanks, > Aijin > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi, On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM, F Wolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The checks called 'variables', 'xmltags' and 'escapes' are the > important > > > ones. Not all of them might necessarily be problems, but should help > you > > > to avoid problems with gsicheck. > These checks give a lot of false positives, which lowers the trust in them. For instance the translation of strings like [none] always produces an error in the category "variables". Erdal
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Op Maandag 2008-04-07 skryf André Schnabel: > Hi, > > F Wolff schrieb: > > > > I don't know if I am stating the obvious, but just wanted to remind > > people that Pootle exposes many quality checks, which should stop > > gsierrors from entering the translations. > > The checks called 'variables', 'xmltags' and 'escapes' are the important > > ones. Not all of them might necessarily be problems, but should help you > > to avoid problems with gsicheck. > > > > This view is available with: Show editing functions -> Show checks. > > > > thanks for the hint. I never tried this function, as the translation in > the German UI of pootle is missleading. Thanks for the feedback, André. The translations of the Pootle interface is maintained at http://pootle.locamotion.org - perhaps you can contribute there, since you understand the context of that message better. Also feel free to help us add good comments to the translation to help translators understand it better. > > But anyway - i tried it now, but the errors found within pootle do not > match the errors reported by gsicheck. So it seems "nice" that the > checks are there, but it does not ensure, that gsichek will be passed. > > André I would really like to know these details, since it is definitely our intention to report at least all the errors that gsicheck reports. Please help us if there are any errors that we missed - perhaps they were added to gsicheck more recently, or there is a bug in our error detection around this. I believe the quality checks is a powerful way for translators to review possibly problematic strings. Friedel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi André, André Schnabel wrote: Hi Aijin, * Aijin Kim schrieb: You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue description. Here is the list of the issue # for each language: German http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87980 Just for the records: I had a look at the error file and none (but one) of the reported strings had been touched by us during translation. Thanks for reporting this. I'll also look into the file to see if any problem with oo2po/po2oo. Aijin This leaves the bad taste, that the workflow is unstable (if not broken). André - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi all, André Schnabel wrote: Hi, F Wolff schrieb: I don't know if I am stating the obvious, but just wanted to remind people that Pootle exposes many quality checks, which should stop gsierrors from entering the translations. The checks called 'variables', 'xmltags' and 'escapes' are the important ones. Not all of them might necessarily be problems, but should help you to avoid problems with gsicheck. This view is available with: Show editing functions -> Show checks. thanks for the hint. I never tried this function, as the translation in the German UI of pootle is missleading. But anyway - i tried it now, but the errors found within pootle do not match the errors reported by gsicheck. So it seems "nice" that the checks are there, but it does not ensure, that gsichek will be passed. Same for me and the bad news is that I corrected the .sdf file directly this morning, but didn't kept the gsicheck output, so no way for me to report the changes to Pootle now. Kind regards Sophie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi, F Wolff schrieb: I don't know if I am stating the obvious, but just wanted to remind people that Pootle exposes many quality checks, which should stop gsierrors from entering the translations. The checks called 'variables', 'xmltags' and 'escapes' are the important ones. Not all of them might necessarily be problems, but should help you to avoid problems with gsicheck. This view is available with: Show editing functions -> Show checks. thanks for the hint. I never tried this function, as the translation in the German UI of pootle is missleading. But anyway - i tried it now, but the errors found within pootle do not match the errors reported by gsicheck. So it seems "nice" that the checks are there, but it does not ensure, that gsichek will be passed. André - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi Aijin, * Aijin Kim schrieb: You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue description. Here is the list of the issue # for each language: German http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87980 Just for the records: I had a look at the error file and none (but one) of the reported strings had been touched by us during translation. This leaves the bad taste, that the workflow is unstable (if not broken). André - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Op Maandag 2008-04-07 skryf Aijin Kim: > Hi Pootle translation lead, > > All the Pootle translation was submitted via IssueTracker. You can add > yourself as cc to the issue to track the progress. > > However, several languages still have gsicheck errors to be fixed and > the strings have format errors won't be imported to the database. So > please **check the issue of your language and have the strings fixed > ASAP**. > You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue > description. > > > Here is the list of the issue # for each language: > > Arabic http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87973 > Bengali http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87975 ... > Thanks, > Aijin I don't know if I am stating the obvious, but just wanted to remind people that Pootle exposes many quality checks, which should stop gsierrors from entering the translations. Check this URL for example: http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:32300/bn/openoffice_org/index.html?editing=1&showchecks=1 I picked Bengali (bn) as the first language in the list with gsicheck errors mentioned in the bug. The checks called 'variables', 'xmltags' and 'escapes' are the important ones. Not all of them might necessarily be problems, but should help you to avoid problems with gsicheck. This view is available with: Show editing functions -> Show checks. Keep well Friedel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Aijin Kim schreef: > But > please make sure the fixing err.sdf is more urgent on this stage. > Will take care of that first -- DiGro Windows XP Professional SP2 and OOo 2.3 Scanned with Multikabel Internet Security Plus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi Dick, Dick Groskamp 쓴 글: > Aijin Kim schreef: > >> Hi Pootle translation lead, >> >> All the Pootle translation was submitted via IssueTracker. You can add >> yourself as cc to the issue to track the progress. >> >> However, several languages still have gsicheck errors to be fixed and >> the strings have format errors won't be imported to the database. So >> please **check the issue of your language and have the strings fixed >> ASAP**. >> You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue >> description. >> >> > Aijin, > > just to be sure: > Do I fix the errors in the err.sdf file or in Pootle ? > Or even both ? > Please enlighten me ;-) > If you can apply fix to both err.sdf and Pootle, it'll be great. But please make sure the fixing err.sdf is more urgent on this stage. Thanks, Aijin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Aijin Kim schreef: > Hi Pootle translation lead, > > All the Pootle translation was submitted via IssueTracker. You can add > yourself as cc to the issue to track the progress. > > However, several languages still have gsicheck errors to be fixed and > the strings have format errors won't be imported to the database. So > please **check the issue of your language and have the strings fixed > ASAP**. > You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue > description. > Aijin, just to be sure: Do I fix the errors in the err.sdf file or in Pootle ? Or even both ? Please enlighten me ;-) -- DiGro Windows XP Professional SP2 and OOo 2.3 Scanned with Multikabel Internet Security Plus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[l10n-dev] POOTLE: Translation was submitted via IssueTracker;Please fix gsicheck errors
Hi Pootle translation lead, All the Pootle translation was submitted via IssueTracker. You can add yourself as cc to the issue to track the progress. However, several languages still have gsicheck errors to be fixed and the strings have format errors won't be imported to the database. So please **check the issue of your language and have the strings fixed ASAP**. You can find the link of the result file of gsicheck in the issue description. Here is the list of the issue # for each language: Arabic http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87973 Bengali http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87975 Catalan http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87976 Chinese (Simplified) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87996 Chinese (Traditional) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87997 Dutch http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87986 French http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87982 German http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87980 Italian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87983 Japanese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88000 Klingon http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87992 Korean http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87984 Kurdish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87985 Occitan-Lengadocian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87987 Portuguese (Brazil) http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87988 Russian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=879819 Spanish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87981 Swedish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87990 Turkish http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87993 Ukrainian http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87994 Vietnamese http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=87995 Thanks, Aijin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]