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[marketing-dev] Call for input for the OpenOffice.org Newsletter

2011-04-01 Thread Kay Koll


Hi Marketeers

Do you have news for the OpenOffice.org Newsletter. Any OpenOffice.org
related topic in English is appreciate.

In order to track the of news, we have created a wikipage. Please use
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoNewsLetter
to submit the news for the newsletter.

The text has to be in English should not be longer than 40 words without 
images in order to
keep the newsletter small.  The text is just an appetizer with a link to 
the full news.


The editorial deadline for the April newsletter is April 4th. 4pm CET

Note that the deadline for the following newsletter submissions will be 
the first Monday of every month at 4:00 pm CET.


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[marketing-dev] Call for input for the OpenOffice.org Newsletter

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Hi Marketeers

Do you have news for the OpenOffice.org Newsletter. Any OpenOffice.org
related topic in English is appreciate.

In order to track the of news, we have created a wikipage. Please use
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoNewsLetter
to submit the news for the newsletter.

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The editorial deadline for the March newsletter is March 3th. 4pm CET

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Re: [marketing] BrOffice.org Magazine has English version

2010-09-06 Thread Kay Koll



  
  
Luiz,

am I wrong, Issue 9 is from November 2009
I will be happy to add a pointer to the BROffice Magazine or any
other BROffice related news and success stories to the newsletter
but November 2009 is to old to be mentioned in the newsletter.

Regards

Kay

On 09/03/2010 01:25 PM, Luiz Oliveira wrote:

  Hi,


  

  Someone else is having trouble accessing the page of the magazines in
English?



I am able to get the PDF version.

However, the first time I tried the wrong URI and wrote by mistake:
       http://br.openoffice.org/magazine

That one is broken and goes only to a complaint about about cookies.
Same for the main page:
       http://br.openoffice.org/

  
  
Failed because this URL is wrong. This is the correct page:
http://broffice.org/magazine

Or by direct link here:

Issue 01:
http://wiki.broffice.org/attachment/wiki/revista/ingles/RB-ED001-EN.pdf?format=raw

Issue 09
http://wiki.broffice.org/attachment/wiki/revista/ingles/RB9-ED001-EN.pdf?format=raw




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Re: [marketing] September Newsletter - Any input from the Community projects ?

2010-09-06 Thread Kay Koll



  
  
Danishka,

this sounds great but this will be something for the next
newsletter. Please note that I need an Blog or Article about this
event to point to.

Regards

Kay

On 09/05/2010 01:57 PM, Danishka Navin wrote:
Hi Kay,
  
  We will be Officially releasing OO.org 3.2.1 Sinhala in the Sri
  Lanka on 17th September 2017 during a FOSS event for Government.
  
  Best Regards,
  Danishka 
  
  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Kay
Koll <kay.k...@oracle.com>
wrote:

   Hi,

It is time to start with the preparation of the September
newsletter. Any input from the community projects are
welcome.

Any pointers to the news and reports from the OO.o Con are
also appreciate.  I am planning to send out the newsletter
when the conference has closed.

Finally I would like to continue the section 'meet the
community'. Each active community member who wanted to be
presented feel free to send me an abstract with up to 50
words.

August article as an example:

Varun Mittal
OO.O Marketing Project - Moderator mailing lists
OOOConf 2010 – Reviewer of abstracts
As the founder head of Linux User Group at my university I
used it as the biggest rallying points while convincing
users to adopt and use
Linux. OOO was the ace in arm of our migration strategy
since Office
suite is one of the most used software by computer users.


Regards

Kay
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Re: [marketing] BrOffice.org Magazine has English version

2010-09-02 Thread Kay Koll



  
  
Luiz,

I would like to add a pointer to the newsletter. Please point me to
a the latest magazine revision
Thanks

Kay

On 09/01/2010 07:34 PM, Luiz Oliveira wrote:

  Hi,

As you discuss the future of OOo at OOoCon, we release two versions of
our Magazine. As you discuss the future of OOo, we release two
versions of our journal. The press release and how to download them in
here:
http://www.broffice.org/broffice_magazine_english_version

Thank's


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Re: [marketing] Meet the Community

2010-08-31 Thread Kay Koll



  
  
Stephanie,

We are appreciating your support but please note that the goal of
the 'Meet the Community' section is to highlight the contributions
to the Community. It is also intended to show the different forms of
contributions.

However, please put your contributions on top and shorten it to 50
words. That does not mean that you can not mention your business or
service you offer.

I will be more than happy to add it to the newsletter than

Regards

Kay


On 08/31/2010 03:56 AM, Stephanie wrote:

  My name is Stephanie Krishnan and I’m passionate about the way that open
source software and its community can help small businesses and individuals
with their productivity and lives. I support the implementation of
OpenOffice into Small & Medium Businesses. One of the biggest arguments I
get from business owners, however, is lack of support options. I decided to
put together my own support blog to help people be productive at various
levels with one of my favourite open source alternatives: OpenOffice! I do
this through tutorials, downloadable templates and answers to questions from
readers.

I started by Discovering OpenOffice website to assist those that are
starting to use office productivity suites, and those who are converting
from MS Office, in being able to quickly and easily ensure that they can
achieve good results in their word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation
applications, and to introduce them to other features of OpenOffice.

http://www.discoveringooo.com




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[marketing] September Newsletter - Any input from the Community projects ?

2010-08-28 Thread Kay Koll



  
  
Hi,

It is time to start with the preparation of the September
newsletter. Any
input from the community projects are welcome.

Any pointers to the news and reports from the OO.o Con are also
appreciate.  I am planning to send out the newsletter when the
conference has closed.

Finally I would like to continue the section 'meet the community'.
Each active community member who wanted to be presented feel free to
send me an abstract with up to 50 words.

August article as an example:

Varun Mittal
OO.O Marketing Project - Moderator mailing lists
OOOConf 2010 – Reviewer of abstracts
As the founder head of Linux User Group at my university I used it
as the biggest rallying points while convincing users to adopt and
use
Linux. OOO was the ace in arm of our migration strategy since Office
suite is one of the most used software by computer users.


Regards

Kay
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Re: [marketing] August Newsletter - Any input from the Community projects ?

2010-08-09 Thread Kay Koll





Craig,

I added the book to the news section

Kay

On 08/07/2010 07:41 AM, Craig A. Adams wrote:

  Hi,

Translate.org.za have just released an OPenOggice.org book for the South
African market.

>From Tectonic Newsletter ( http://www.tectonic.co.za/newsletter/232.html ):

OpenOffice.org book both entertaining and educational So, this week I was
lucky enough to get my hands on a copy of Open The
Door,
an introduction to using OpenOffice.org 3.0. The book, written and published
by Translate.org.za , is a dual-language
production with both English and Afrikaans sections (each a 100 pages). The
guide is illustrated throughout with screenshots and covers the basics of
installing OpenOfffice.org on Windows and Mac OS X through to doing things
such as setting up templates, letterheads, spreadsheet formatting and
preparing presentations.

But what I really like about the book is that it is not just a dry,
technical manual on using OpenOffice.org. It's also a pretty good guide to
being more productive at work and is filled with useful links, tips on
making better documents as well as ideas on how to be more organised at
work. I also liked the tips on being a "highly evolved user".

The book is part of a package that can be bought directly from
Translate.org.za 's website and includes the
software in multiple languages as well as the book.

Well done to Dwayne and the team at Translate.org.za

*Disclaimer: I did some minor work with Translate around the book but I had
absolutely nothing to do with the writing of the book, and certainly no hand
in the localisation of OpenOffice.org.*
Reference: http://translate.org.za/content/view/17/54/lang,en-za/

Kindest Regards

Craig A. Adams



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 Hi,

I am currently preparing the August Edition of the newsletter. Any input
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Regards

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Re: [marketing] August Newsletter - Any input from the Community projects ?

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great, drop me a note regarding the status. It is definitely worth to
be mentioned in the newsletter.

Kay

On 08/06/2010 07:10 PM, mak wrote:

  Dear Kay,

My organisation is shortlisted for a national level award (
http://bit.ly/bhaK7E) under e-Localizaiton category; our effortwas mostly
towards OOo UI / help files locaionzations. The winners will be declared on
9th August. If we win, shall I send you the details after 9th of this month.

regards
mak_

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 Hi,

I am currently preparing the August Edition of the newsletter. Any input
from the community projects are welcome

Regards

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Re: [marketing] August Newsletter - Any input from the Community projects ?

2010-08-09 Thread Kay Koll

this would be great if the Hungarian team can prepare something. I am
using following link for the OOOCon announcement
http://www.ooocon.org/index.php/ooocon/2010

Kay

On 08/08/2010 03:58 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Yes indeed. Kay; I think we can include this one and something from the Hungarian team as well, what do you think?

Best,

Charles.

Le 6 août 2010 à 21:33, Cor Nouws a écrit :

Hi Mak,

I guess Charles will love to take this news for the NLC section of the newsletter.

Ragards,
Cor

mak wrote (06-08-10 19:10)

Dear Kay,

My organisation is shortlisted for a national level award (
http://bit.ly/bhaK7E) under e-Localizaiton category; our effortwas mostly
towards OOo UI / help files locaionzations. The winners will be declared on
9th August. If we win, shall I send you the details after 9th of this month.

regards
mak_

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Kay Koll wrote:

Hi,

I am currently preparing the August Edition of the newsletter. Any input
from the community projects are welcome

Regards

Kay
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Hi,

I am currently preparing the August Edition of the newsletter. Any
input from the community projects are welcome

Regards

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Re: [marketing] Re: Public Review of OpenDocument v1.2

2010-07-29 Thread Kay Koll



  
  
Katsuya,

Great idea.  I am going to add this announcement to the Newsletter.

The newsletter does not have the room for substantial interviews,
beside that it would be worth a blog posting.

Regards

Kay

On 28.07.2010 17:32, Katsuya Kobayashi wrote:

  Hello Kay,

 How do you think to show the ODF status in the next August OOo newsletter ?
 How do you think to write that kind of note? By interview to XML project, or...

Hello Peter,

 Also we need to implement the SMP based on the milestone of ODF
standardization.

Best,
Katsuya

2010/7/17 Peter Junge :

  
Hi Kobayashi-san,

the OOo Marketing Project is certainly the right place to promote OOo and
ODF, but IMHO the wrong place to organize review activities for ODF 1.2, as
this is mostly a technical affair. I would see this in the focus of the OOo
XML project (http://xml.openoffice.org/), which is in charge of implementing
ODF for OOo.

Of course, everyone is welcome to provide feedback during the public review
of ODF 1.2, at the ODF comment mailing list:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office#feedback

As to the missing Japanese reference books about ODF, I would think this
issue should also be addresses with OASIS, either with the ODF technical
committee or ODF Adoption TC.
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=odf-adoption

The ODF Toolkit project (http://odftoolkit.org/) might also be a good point
to work on documentation.

Sorry, that I couldn't help better.

Best regards,
Peter

Katsuya Kobayashi wrote:


  
Hi Peter and *,

Of course, this activity subject is OASIS.
But Why anybody did'nt reply the contribution for public comment of ODF1.2
?

What is difficulty to organize the review activity in the
OpenOffice.org community, include each NLC?
BTW, There is no Japanese manual book of ODF in Japan. But also There
are two Japanese manual book of OOXML. It's one of our difficulty for
JA community.

Thanks,
Katsuya Kobayashi

2010/7/10 Katsuya Kobayashi :

  

Hi,

Public Review of OpenDocument v1.2 has just started!

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The public review starts 8 July 2010, and ends 6 September 2010.

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Re: [marketing] Request for input for OpenOffice.org Newsletter

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Varun,

great idea. Please send me an example

Kay

On 03.07.2010 11:03, Varun Mittal wrote:

  Hi Kay,

We don't need to do interview. We can probably do it this way that we invite
people to share their story. They make their own articles and the newsletter
team polishes them a bit. They can send a pic of theirs  + small profile +
their story how OOO became part of their lives.

I can send you a demo on or off the list if you are interested :)

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Kay Koll  wrote:


  
 Varun,

good idea but this would imply that somebody has to interview contributors
and prepare an article.

I won't have the time to do it alone, but happy assist

Regards

Kay


On 07/02/2010 04:38 AM, Varun Mittal wrote:

Hi Kay,

Perhaps after  the introduction, we can include some real life examples of
people who just dropped by and then became permanent members of the
community.Some people who have become contributors for documentation or
marketing project w/o being actual developers will reinforce our pitch.  I
believe such real life examples motivate in their own special way.

My 2 cents :)


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Kay Koll wrote on 2010-07-01 10.55:


 as you may know I authoring the OO.o newsletter. The current format has


 a three sections
* introduction section
* News from the Community projects
* News from the Community Council

The first section is typical static. Florian brought up the idea to
change the intro section with every newsletter.
To accomplish that, I would like to collect suggestions and input.



 I encourage everyone on this list to contribute! As Kay said, the
newsletter is indeed a very important entity within the OpenOffice.org
project, and a great chance to promote your projects and ideas!

Kay, I've also twittered about this mail, so hopefully we'll find some
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Re: [marketing] Request for input for OpenOffice.org Newsletter

2010-07-02 Thread Kay Koll





Varun,

good idea but this would imply that somebody has to interview
contributors and prepare an article.

I won't have the time to do it alone, but happy assist

Regards

Kay

On 07/02/2010 04:38 AM, Varun Mittal wrote:

  Hi Kay,

Perhaps after  the introduction, we can include some real life examples of
people who just dropped by and then became permanent members of the
community.Some people who have become contributors for documentation or
marketing project w/o being actual developers will reinforce our pitch.  I
believe such real life examples motivate in their own special way.

My 2 cents :)


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Florian Effenberger
wrote:

  
  
Hello Kay,

Kay Koll wrote on 2010-07-01 10.55:


 as you may know I authoring the OO.o newsletter. The current format has


  a three sections
* introduction section
* News from the Community projects
* News from the Community Council

The first section is typical static. Florian brought up the idea to
change the intro section with every newsletter.
To accomplish that, I would like to collect suggestions and input.

  


I encourage everyone on this list to contribute! As Kay said, the
newsletter is indeed a very important entity within the OpenOffice.org
project, and a great chance to promote your projects and ideas!

Kay, I've also twittered about this mail, so hopefully we'll find some
volunteers :-)

Florian

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[marketing] Request for input for OpenOffice.org Newsletter

2010-07-01 Thread Kay Koll


 Hi,

as you may know I authoring the OO.o newsletter. The current format has 
a three sections

* introduction section
* News from the Community projects
* News from the Community Council

The first section is typical static. Florian brought up the idea to 
change the intro section with every newsletter.

To accomplish that, I would like to collect suggestions and input.

Here is the current introduction text:

*You can help the community, it is easy and fun!*
There are dozens of opportunities to support the community and you do 
not have to be a developer to help out. Here are just two out of many 
examples:


/Are you interested in marketing?/
Go ahead and help the OpenOffice.org marketing project!
Help spread the word and, by the way, it looks good in your resume.

/Do you like to write articles or short manuals?/
The documentation project is always looking for new and exciting articles.

/Don't be shy and start volunteering today!/
 Find out how to contribute
Do not miss the videos on Facebook




The other important section where I need input for is the Community 
project section.
This is newsletter is an excellent vehicle to promote your project and 
find new volunteers !


Here is a typical content for project  section
*
Notes from the Community projects*
Presenting the Irish Gaelic Community
Each month, we will interview teams, blog about it, include it in the 
OpenOffice.org, newsletter, etc. This month, we start with the Irish 
native-language project, lead by Kevin Scannell. Read More »


Any feedback and suggestions are welcome

Regards

Kay

Re: [marketing] Input for the OpenOffice.org appreciated

2010-06-07 Thread Kay Koll


Chao,

already in, I have send you the draft

Kay

On 06/07/2010 09:04 AM, Chaosun wrote:

Hi,

What about the Openoffice.org Conference2010,and the 10th Anni. As well as the 
expecting new release.

Cheers
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Hi,

I am currently preparing the June edition of the newsletter. Any input, 
especially from from the Community projects, is much appreciated.
The newsletter is being received by more than 100,000 readers, so it is 
an excellent opportunity to present you activities.


I do not want stress the mailing list with a draft version, just drop me 
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[marketing] Move OO.o Newletter to HTML - Result of the survey

2009-10-30 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

we had asked the reader of the OO.o Newsletter in a survey which form of 
the OO.o Newsletter they prefer and it turned out that almost 84% wanted 
to have the newsletter in the HTML format. 2599 readers had participate.


This is a clear quorum to change the format of the newsletter to HTML. 
This does not imply that readers who do not prefer HTML can not read the 
newsletter anymore. I will send out the newsletter with an embedded text 
version.


The October newsletter will be the first newsletter in the HTML format.

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Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-08 Thread Kay Koll


Bernard,


Only if they are subscribed to both.
Hosting two announce mailing list would imply that each of the 
announcement  needs to be posted to two mailing lists. A model which I 
dislike


Thanks to Florian, here is my proposal for a HTML version of the newsletter.
http://marketing.openoffice.org/tryouts/newsletter/OOoHTMLNewsletter.html

and as automatically generated simple text version
http://test.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=announce&msgNo=18

The result of the survey:
http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=88144&lang=en
Just 8 people have responded yet
4 voted for HTML and 4 for text version

So the results of survey are not very helpful

Regards

Kay

On 09/05/09 12:33, Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Kay,*

Kay Koll schrieb:

Bernard,

again I do not want to create two newsletters.
I still think of creating a HTML newsletter that contains a text 
version without additional work.



Using two mailing lists
would imply that users on the HTML announce list receive the newsletter
twice. The HTML version and the text version through the normal
announce@ list.


Only if they are subscribed to both. If we send the release 
information to announce_h...@ooo too, there is no necessity to 
subscribe to annou...@ooo and announce_h...@ooo simultaneously.


But as Christine Beems and Zhang Weiwu mention: We have to find out 
what the addressees of the newsletter want/need - and then discuss 
about the possibilities to fulfill their needs.



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Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-05 Thread Kay Koll


Bernard,

again I do not want to create two newsletters. Using two mailing lists 
would imply that users on the HTML announce list receive the newsletter 
twice. The HTML version and the text version through the normal 
announce@ list.


Regards

Kay

Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Kay, *

Kay Koll schrieb:

Bernard,


It should be the user's choice if they want to get HTML or txt, as Kay
already mentioned, creation of both is not much more work than just 
one.

Unfortunately this is in my opinion not possible. I am send the
newsletter to the announce mailing list which handles the distribution.
Using two new 'newsletter' mailing list would imply that everyone has to
subscribe to one of this mailing list to receive a newsletter.


Sorry, I don't get your point:

At the moment everybody interested in the newsletter has to subscribe 
to annou...@ooo.


If you were able to create both versions of the newsletter, people 
interested in the HTML version would subscribe to announce_h...@ooo 
while others stay with annou...@ooo if they want to receive text mails 
only.


I don't know how much work it is to create both versions and send them 
to the lists. Perhaps the mail server could do the discrimination: If 
HTML code would be stripped from the mails to annou...@ooo while this 
would be allowed for announce_h...@ooo, you could send a mail 
containing both parts to both lists simultaneously.


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Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Kay Koll


Lars,

I had created the prototype mid of August and had used content from the 
July newsletter.
The newsletter archive nor the marketing list does not accept HTML 
emails. That is the reason that the integrated simple text version got 
archived.

I do not have a public accessible web page to present the HTML newsletter.

Regards

Kay

Lars Nooden wrote:

Kay,

What is the URL for the current newsletter?  Not a message in an
archive, but show the actual URL for the actual newsletter.


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Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Kay Koll


Bernhard,


So I thought it would not be necessary to create it twice.

I'd prefer a HTML mail over a HTML page - especially if the mail 
program could provide the txt version automatically. 
this will be case for the 'HTML' newsletter. The automatically generated 
simple text version of the html newsletter will look like this

http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=28287

Regards

Kay


Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi Kay,

Kay Koll schrieb:

Lars,


Newsletter gets a web page, news letter is published as a web page,
the URL is sent to the mailing list with a plain text version
underneath

but this would imply that I have to create the newsletter twice. A
simple text version and a HTML page. This is what I wanted to avoid.


On 18-8-09 you wrote:

I have prepared a test Newsletter in HTML which also includes the
content in plain text (thanks to Alex).  The plain text version is
well readable. This might be a model which most of the worries. I am
going to send it out in a separate email.



So I thought it would not be necessary to create it twice.

I'd prefer a HTML mail over a HTML page - especially if the mail 
program could provide the txt version automatically.


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Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Kay Koll


Bernard,

It should be the user's choice if they want to get HTML or txt, as Kay 
already mentioned, creation of both is not much more work than just one. 
Unfortunately this is in my opinion not possible. I am send the 
newsletter to the announce mailing list which handles the distribution. 
Using two new 'newsletter' mailing list would imply that everyone has to 
subscribe to one of this  mailing list to receive a newsletter.


Regards

Kay

Bernhard Dippold wrote:

Hi all,

for me the question about HTML or txt is not a question of 
preferences, but of target audience:


OOo project members getting dozens to hundreds of text mails will not 
be interested in bloated HTML mails, but still want to be informed 
about what is going on outside their specific projects.


Other people that want to be informed about the project from the 
outside will be divided in two categories:


Some want to get plain text mails: Full information with the minimum 
of download/storage space.


Others are interested in eye-catching well designed HTML newsletters. 
I think this group is growing more and more:
- Users that just want to hear a bit more about OOo that they already 
know.
- People just reached by our marketing efforts: A bit curious, but not 
really interested.

- Internet lurkers appealed by our lovely homepage...

IMHO there is only one way to do our work properly:
- keep the text format on the announce mailing list
*plus*
- create a new list (or anything else) for HTML newsletters.

It should be the user's choice if they want to get HTML or txt, as Kay 
already mentioned, creation of both is not much more work than just one.


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Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Kay Koll


Lars,


Newsletter gets a web page, news letter is published as a web page, the
URL is sent to the mailing list with a plain text version underneath
but this would imply that I have to create the newsletter twice. A 
simple text version and a HTML page. 
This is what I wanted to avoid.


Kay

Lars Nooden wrote:

Zhang Weiwu wrote:
  

... at which time I believe those who said they prefer HTML
are either not able to identify the beauty in plain text or lying to me
to justify their doing of sending HTML with bold red color.



Or just plain wrong.  That's a third option.  If those people had been
given IT support that could provide them with a web page to publish
their material on, there would be no temptation to use e-mail as a
surrogate for a file system, which is what the proposal at hand really
boils down to.  ( Again, assuming it's not just trolling for the sake of
trolling. )

Newsletter gets a web page, news letter is published as a web page, the
URL is sent to the mailing list with a plain text version underneath.

Accessible by all.  Works on all systems.  Or maybe those are two of the
"problems" the proposal wishes to address.

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[marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

the current newsletter is more a press review but having an editorial 
part would definitely improve the newsletter.
This would imply that we need a team which writes and reviews the 
articles. Regarding images and screenshots, they are fine for  magazines 
but a newsletter should be slim as possible.


The marketing alias does not accept HTML emails, so I am not able to 
send my proposal to this alias and I do not have a publicly access web 
page available. If somebody has a page available, I will be happy to 
send him my proposal.


However we have setup a survey where everyone express their opinion 
regarding HTML and simple text.

http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=88144&lang=en

Here is a pointer to the simple text version  of the newsletter.
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=announce&msgNo=399

Regards

Kay

Alexandro Colorado wrote:

I have mixed feelings about this idea, for example my browser crashed
when I tried to open the second link. Granted I am on a low resource
EEEPC but usually newsletters are for content and not much shine thats
why we preffer text NL than HTML NL.
However i do remember a proposal by a polish magazine about creating
an OpenOffice.org magazine, the concept fade away but having the
resource to come up wiht an OOo E-zine like the Mozilal E-Zine, Ubuntu
E-Zine (Fullcircle), and even a REd Hat E-zine too
(http://magazine.redhat.com/).

I am curious to know what this e-zine put in and how come they can
come up with so much content. But if there are the team dedicated to
bring this through I am all forward.


On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:24 PM, leif wrote:
  

Hi all,
I wonder who the target audience for the newsletter is. Is it the community,
the press or even a third group?

Honestly, I find the newsletter boring. The text based form is fine inside
the community, but if the target is to reach new users or the press I think
it needs to be shined up. People are expecting some more marketing like.
Some glitter and gold. The fine stories could be wrapped up in some nicer
paper I think.

Please don't take this as anything other than positive critics. A proposal
for future work. I read the newsletter every months and I think that the
journalistic and editorial work is fine.

Please have a look at the Danish newsletter. This is how it looked about one
year ago: http://da.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=nyhedsbrev&msgNo=53

And then see the latest issue:
http://issuu.com/lodahl/docs/2009september?viewMode=magazine&mode=embed

Okay, I don't expect that you can understand the content but different
layout should be understandable.

Please discuss this in the future. We could call it 'Newsletter
Renaissance'.


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Re: [marketing] State Government switching to Open Office

2009-09-02 Thread Kay Koll


Chris,

Thanks for the pointer, we might wait with the success story when the 
policy is official published


Kay

On 09/02/09 02:54, Chris Pratt wrote:

Stephen is right.  I have the document, but it appears to be internal only
at this point.  I apologize for the zealous excitement.  As soon as it is
public I'll be sure to post the link.  I'll see if I can push this policy
being viewable by the public.  In the meantime, if anyone is interested,
here are some links showing the Utah States increasing interest and research
into OpenOffice and open source in general.

http://dts.utah.gov/techresearch/techreports/resources/openSourcePositionPaper061120.pdf
http://www.utahta.wikispaces.net/Office+Suite+Standards
http://dts.utah.gov/techresearch/techarchitecture/reviews/resources/taRevOfficeSuites071211.pdf
http://dts.utah.gov/techresearch/techarchitecture/archrevboard/resources/taReportOpenOfficePilot6-25-08.pdf


On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Stephen Samuel (gmail)
wrote:

  

Well, I was able to find this:
http://dts.utah.gov/news/newsletter/archives/issue158.html

 "The ARB has recently reviewed and approved several standards, including
  the expanded use of Open Office productivity suite in state government.
  The newly approved standard means that DTS will provide support for
  Open Office as well as Microsoft Office suite. Agencies are encouraged to
  select productivity software that meets their business and cost
requirements.

I looked at issues between 158 and 176 (the current), and couldn't find
any other references to Open Office, so I'm inclined to say that, if this
is
the protocol within the directorate's office, it's probably unofficial
-- and possibly
even an impromptu pilot project.

In the meantime, however, I found the following:

http://kevin.watson.name/research/openoffice.html  -- Comparing
OpenOffice 1.0 to MS Office 2000

OpenOffice.org software was put to the test in an academic
environment. This paper examined how the newly released software stood
up to the test of newspaper and technology columnists and how it stood
up to the rigorous testing in the English Department at Utah State
University in Logan, Utah.

The question that was answered is thus: In general, is OpenOffice.org
a viable alternative to Microsoft Office 2000 in an academic
environment? The answer turned out to be yes. OpenOffice.org software
stood up to nearly all of the requirements of teaching faculty and
staff in the department. There were a few who disliked using
OpenOffice.org software, but the same people also find Microsoft
Office clumsy and unusable.



On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Kay Koll wrote:


Chris,

this is great, do you have a link or pointer for more details.
This news is definitely worth to be added to the OO.o Newsletter and OO.o
references page

Regards

Kay

On 09/01/09 17:43, Chris Pratt wrote:
  

I thought the group would find it interesting that the Utah State
Department
of Technology has recently (beginning August 1st, 2009) implemented a
policy
stating that all new computers ordered will have OpenOffice installed as
the
office productivity software instead of Microsoft Office.  Any new
computer
violating this rule requires written justification as to why and


approval


by
the CIO.  There are rumors that this policy will eventually apply to the
entire Utah State Government.  I feel the tide turning in favor of
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Re: [marketing] State Government switching to Open Office

2009-09-01 Thread Kay Koll


Chris,

this is great, do you have a link or pointer for more details.
This news is definitely worth to be added to the OO.o Newsletter and 
OO.o references page


Regards

Kay

On 09/01/09 17:43, Chris Pratt wrote:

I thought the group would find it interesting that the Utah State Department
of Technology has recently (beginning August 1st, 2009) implemented a policy
stating that all new computers ordered will have OpenOffice installed as the
office productivity software instead of Microsoft Office.  Any new computer
violating this rule requires written justification as to why and approval by
the CIO.  There are rumors that this policy will eventually apply to the
entire Utah State Government.  I feel the tide turning in favor of
OpenOffice.  Congratulations!

  


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Re: [marketing] HTML version of the newsletter - Without images (Header, Spread the news, Unsubscribe, Sun Logo)

2009-08-18 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

thanks for all you feedback but it turns out that the mailing list does 
not accept HTML emails.


Regards

Kay

On 08/18/09 18:31, Kay Koll wrote:




   Volume 07 - Issue 25 - 07/2009


   The Community Needs your Help !

There are dozens opportunities to support the community und you do not 
have to a developer. Here are just two examples:


Interested in Marketing?
Go ahead an help the marketing to spread out the word and by the way 
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   Featured News

German OO.o conference on economic and management

The first German OpenOffice.org conference dedicated to public 
administration will be held in the thermal city of Wiesbaden, Germany, 
on 6 and 7 October 2009.  Read More » <#>


OO.o won a SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards

-> Best Project for Government Read More » 
<http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/>


back to top <#top>


   Tips & Tricks

LinuxJournal: OpenOffice.org Calc: The Mysteries of DataPilots Revealed

If you're coming fresh from Microsoft Excel, you might wonder where 
the Pivot tables are in OpenOffice.org Calc. The problem is, 
they'remasquerading under the name of DataPilots  Read More » 
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TeamDrive Plug-in for OpenOffice

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OO.o Conference 2009 -
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   Volume 07 - Issue 25 - 07/2009


   The Community Needs your Help !

There are dozens opportunities to support the community und you do not 
have to a developer. Here are just two examples:


Interested in Marketing?
Go ahead an help the marketing to spread out the word and by the way it 
looks in your resume.


You like to write articles?
The documentation projects is always looking for articles.

Don't be shy and start volunteering today!

Find out how to contribute 


   Success Stories

ZDNet Asia: Malaysian public sector bolsters OSS adoption

...295 agencies have deployed OpenOffice.org, totaling almost 20,000 
installed seats and saving the Malaysian government over 18.8 million 
ringgit (US$5.4 million) in licensing fees  Read More » 



back to top <#top>


   Featured News

German OO.o conference on economic and management

The first German OpenOffice.org conference dedicated to public 
administration will be held in the thermal city of Wiesbaden, Germany, 
on 6 and 7 October 2009.  Read More » <#>


OO.o won a SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards

-> Best Project for Government Read More » 



back to top <#top>


   Tips & Tricks

LinuxJournal: OpenOffice.org Calc: The Mysteries of DataPilots Revealed

If you're coming fresh from Microsoft Excel, you might wonder where the 
Pivot tables are in OpenOffice.org Calc. The problem is, 
they'remasquerading under the name of DataPilots  Read More » 



back to top <#top>


   OpenDocument (ODF)

ODF in FISL 10

The FISL 10 (International Forum of Free Software) was for me the best 
FISL ever. ...President of Brazil Lula wearing a ODF cap... 
Read More » 


back to top <#top>


   Solution of the month

TeamDrive Plug-in for OpenOffice

The new TeamDrive OpenOffice Plug-in allows users to collaborate easy 
right out of OpenOffice.org. TeamDrive enhances OpenOffice.org with an 
automatic version control system. Read More » 



Please Note:

This section introduces a single solution which provides a OO.o 
integration or based on OO.o technology. The idea behind it is to  
support vendors who have an OO.o integration.


Full list of OpenOffice.org solutions 



Drop me an email, if you want to have your solution listed.

back to top <#top>




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Re: [marketing] Moving the OO.o Newsletter to HTML

2009-08-18 Thread Kay Koll


Graham,

HTML Newsletters are better readable due to the extended formatting  
capabilities. You can play with colors, multi columns and so on.
It is definitely a better user experience. 

I have prepared a test Newsletter in HTML which also includes the 
content in plain text (thanks to Alex).  The plain text version is well 
readable.
This might be a model which most of the worries. I am going to send it 
out in a separate email.


By the way the final newsletter will include four images (header, 
unsubscribe, spread the news, Sun logo)


Any comments are welcome

Kay

On 08/18/09 00:53, Graham Lauder wrote:

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:42:53 Kay Koll wrote:
  

Hi Christine,

I do not consider the OO.o newsletter to be a marketplace.
I am fully agree that an OO.o related  market place would be valuable.
For now we do have two pages which covering OO.o service and products
http://bizdev.openoffice.org/consultants.html
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions
the design of the pages are a mess but the wiki concept has the
advantage that every OO.o user can add their services to the page.

due to the lack on resources there is currently no immediate plan to
improve the pages.

However back to the newsletter design . Creating an Text and HTML
version of the newsletter would take too long due to the fact that I am
creating the newsletter manually.  If we decided to go with the Text
format, we can discuss a new design.

Regards

Kay




Hi Kay,

I'm with Christine, she speaks good sense. However we seem to have a slight 
language misunderstanding.  

The OOo newsletter is not "a marketplace", but our means of communication 
to "_the_ marketplace" and the Non-techie business people part of that 
Marketplace  deals with text better than HTML. 

A well formatted text email is much better in the eyes of those end users than 
something that is likely to get trashed by mail filters or frustrate the 
reader.  Text reads consistently, whereas HTML is at the mercy of the enduser 
browser settings. 



Hi Christine,

Welcome 

  

On 08/17/09 15:50, Christine Louise Beems wrote:


Hello Alex, Kay and all. I am new to this list (having been lurking
for a week), learning to use OpenOffice (and enjoying it) and
minimally conversant with OpenSource applications & ideology, all of
which I find very impressive.

My competency is in creative development, media, marketing and
communications, in light of which I offer a perspective on the OO.o
newsletter:

While I know that 'everyone' is going to html, I suggest that the
marketplace is not yet sufficiently equipped to recieve html email.
The attached screenshot shows what will most likely come up as a
'first look' in the majority of Inboxes... which in strictest
promotional terms means that the space which *should* be devoted to
your 'hook' (lead information that draws the reader deeper into the
content) is being 'wasted' on a blank graphic.
  


+1 unfortunately this list strips attachments

  

Also consider that a substantial number of the 'professional end
users' (who are not employed in IT but are in many instances 'the
decision makers') are minimally technology literate... which I do not
say as a discredit but simply as diagnosis of facts so that the
'needs' of the marketplace are pragmatically assessed in terms of
providing a legitimate service to the clients we seek to serve.
  


It has been noted in the past that in terms our demographics, Non-techie 
endusers make up a significant proportion 

  

In this light consider that what these professionals greatly value is
'consistency'. We (all of us) have a job to do and we want to do it
efficiently, effectively and competently... and it drives us (the
non-tech office worker) nutz when we have to spend half of our
'production time' learning the nuances of some new-and-improved
'upgrade' in order to do what we knew how to do perfectly last week...
(smile).

And finally, it might be worth considering that html formatting raises
one's 'score' with the spam-gods, which can raise a newsletter's
bounce-back rate considerably and cascade to blacklisting by various
ISPs.

Thus in terms of newsletter design I would suggest continuing to
distribute in (creatively formatted) plain text but also offering a
link to a nicely formatted PDF version and/or a link to a webpage
where the html formatted version (optimally with photos/graphics) is
posted.

Anyway, all just my opinion and perhaps not of any use...??? In any
event, I am enjoying using OpenOffice because (so far at least) the
process of 'learning' has been highly intuitive, making for an easy
transition from the closed source applications I have been using for
all these many years. Thanks!!! ~Christine Beems
  


Many thanks for a well thought out response



  


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Re: [marketing] Moving the OO.o Newsletter to HTML

2009-08-17 Thread Kay Koll


Hi Christine,

I do not consider the OO.o newsletter to be a marketplace.
I am fully agree that an OO.o related  market place would be valuable. 
For now we do have two pages which covering OO.o service and products

http://bizdev.openoffice.org/consultants.html
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions
the design of the pages are a mess but the wiki concept has the 
advantage that every OO.o user can add their services to the page.


due to the lack on resources there is currently no immediate plan to 
improve the pages.


However back to the newsletter design . Creating an Text and HTML 
version of the newsletter would take too long due to the fact that I am 
creating the newsletter manually.  If we decided to go with the Text 
format, we can discuss a new design.


Regards

Kay

On 08/17/09 15:50, Christine Louise Beems wrote:
Hello Alex, Kay and all. I am new to this list (having been lurking 
for a week), learning to use OpenOffice (and enjoying it) and 
minimally conversant with OpenSource applications & ideology, all of 
which I find very impressive.


My competency is in creative development, media, marketing and 
communications, in light of which I offer a perspective on the OO.o 
newsletter:


While I know that 'everyone' is going to html, I suggest that the 
marketplace is not yet sufficiently equipped to recieve html email. 
The attached screenshot shows what will most likely come up as a 
'first look' in the majority of Inboxes... which in strictest 
promotional terms means that the space which *should* be devoted to 
your 'hook' (lead information that draws the reader deeper into the 
content) is being 'wasted' on a blank graphic.


Also consider that a substantial number of the 'professional end 
users' (who are not employed in IT but are in many instances 'the 
decision makers') are minimally technology literate... which I do not 
say as a discredit but simply as diagnosis of facts so that the 
'needs' of the marketplace are pragmatically assessed in terms of 
providing a legitimate service to the clients we seek to serve.


In this light consider that what these professionals greatly value is 
'consistency'. We (all of us) have a job to do and we want to do it 
efficiently, effectively and competently... and it drives us (the 
non-tech office worker) nutz when we have to spend half of our 
'production time' learning the nuances of some new-and-improved 
'upgrade' in order to do what we knew how to do perfectly last week... 
(smile).


And finally, it might be worth considering that html formatting raises 
one's 'score' with the spam-gods, which can raise a newsletter's 
bounce-back rate considerably and cascade to blacklisting by various 
ISPs.


Thus in terms of newsletter design I would suggest continuing to 
distribute in (creatively formatted) plain text but also offering a 
link to a nicely formatted PDF version and/or a link to a webpage 
where the html formatted version (optimally with photos/graphics) is 
posted.


Anyway, all just my opinion and perhaps not of any use...??? In any 
event, I am enjoying using OpenOffice because (so far at least) the 
process of 'learning' has been highly intuitive, making for an easy 
transition from the closed source applications I have been using for 
all these many years. Thanks!!! ~Christine Beems




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Re: [marketing] Re: Upcoming release of Media Wiki Publisher 1.1

2009-05-27 Thread Kay Koll


Götz,

here are my edits

New features in this update include the following:
- Improved export of tables
- Export of embedded formulas
- New MediaWiki document template ("mediawiki.ott") accessible from the 
Template menue

- Warning if existing Wiki pages should be overwritten
- Improved OpenJDK support

Regards

Kay

On 05/27/09 15:14, Goetz Wohlberg wrote:

Hi Martin,

how about the following description:

--
*Sun Wiki Publisher 1.1

*The Sun Wiki Publisher enables you to create Wiki articles on 
MediaWiki servers without having to know the syntax of the MediaWiki 
markup language. This update addresses several known issues.


New features in this update include the following:
- Warning if existing Wiki pages should be overwritten
- New MediaWiki document template ("mediawiki.ott") accessible from 
the Template menue

- Improved export of tables
- Export of embedded formulas
- Improved GNU Java support

This update requires OpenOffice.org 3.0 or higher. For more 
information about issues addressed in this update, see the Release 
Notes .  For more extensions from Sun 
Microsystems, click here. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/taxonomy/term/80>.

--

Goetz


Martin Hollmichel schrieb:

Hi,

I'm going to provide within the next days the next version of the 
Media Wiki Publisher. For the issues fixed please see 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Extension/Release_Map#1.1 



the release candidate of that extension can be found on 
ftp://qa-upload.services.openoffice.org/wiki-publisher/


I'd appreciate any input for polishing up the release notes and IHMO 
it also would be nice to have already blog entries with a review of 
the new release with the release.


any volunteers for that ?

thank you,

Martin





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Re: [marketing] Promoting the OO.o Extension Repository

2009-01-16 Thread Kay Koll


Cor,

you could do it by yourself
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/extensions_count

Regards

Kay

Cor Nouws wrote:

Kay Koll wrote (15-1-2009 16:32)
The OO.o Extension repository will pass the 300 Extensions very 
shortly.  There are currently 270 extensions available.


300 is in my opinion a good opportunity to drop a short note to the 
media


Goog idea, Kay.
I'm working on another nice extension.
Pls give me a hint, so that that can be the number 300 ;-)

Ciao,

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[marketing] Promoting the OO.o Extension Repository

2009-01-15 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

The OO.o Extension repository will pass the 300 Extensions very 
shortly.  There are currently 270 extensions available.


300 is in my opinion a good opportunity to drop a short note to the media

Regards

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Re: [marketing] oo....@fosdem 2009

2008-12-02 Thread Kay Koll


Jürgen,

On 12/ 1/08 07:02 AM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

Louis has requested a DevRoom at FOSDEM 2009 (7-8 Feb. 2009, 
http://www.fosdem.org/2009/) and we should move now in the detail 
organization because the room is accepted.


First collection of open todos

- volunteers??
I could volunteer, at least work on stuff which needs to be prepared 
without traveling

- budget (traveling, merchandising, etc.) -> council
-- based on the ideas that we have or that produce in the next days ;-)

* ODF Toolkit
- program for the DevRoom -> call for papers/workshop etc., maybe a 
lightning talk session

- booth? I would say yes.

accordingly to Louis - There will be a booth
-- some merchandising stuff, i would suggest a nice OO.org 3.0 
T-Shirts, a CD/DVD with OO.org 3.x??, we need ideas for some other 
cool things. All this stuff should we give for free but we will ask 
for donations. That worked quite well last year, we got 650 Euro in 
1,5 days. Or we take a small fee.

-- we should also have something that we can put in the conference bags
Blocks and pencils would be best but we need to clarify if somebody else 
added an block to the conference bags

-- deadline for design -> depends on last production date
-- coffee machine -> create a meeting point at the booth (maybe the 
booth will be again in front of the DevRoom as last year)

-- demo workplace

- design for a cool T-Shirt -> deadline mid of December to have enough 
time for the production (i will check a vendor and cost -> (will come 
back later)



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[marketing] Mozilla Thunderbird cross promotion

2008-11-17 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

I would like to continue the cross promotions and adding a pointer to 
the Mozilla Thunderbird download on

'Thank You for downloading'
   http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920897

'Thank you registering'
http://registration.services.openoffice.org/OOo3.0Beta/thankyou.html

I know that Florian was not happy about it, but it is best location for 
a promotion.


Please have in mind that many OO.o users still thinking that an Office 
suite has to include email client and TB is due the platform 
independence the perfect email client for OO.o.


Regards

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Re: [marketing] Detailed list of OO.o+TB cross promotion activities

2008-09-05 Thread Kay Koll


Hello Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote:
+1, sounds good. Did you already come up with a draft text? We may 
also mention it in the 3.0 PR directly, if no one objects.



No draft available yet but we should start soon.

* Mentioned on the OO.o product page (with real live example)
  Each section get extend by just a single sentence.
  * Why OpenOffice.org


Both sound okay to me. We never did this before, but I'm willing to 
give this a try. We should look that it doesn't clutter the page, but 
basically, I see benefits in that, so let's go! :-)

I will come back with a proposal soon



* Adding TB+LG on the thank you pages
  * OO.o 3.0 thank you page
http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920897
AI: KK

  * Registration thank you page
 
http://registration.services.openoffice.org/OOo3.0Beta/thankyou.html

AI: KK


Hmmm... where do you want to put it there? We already have 
complimentary products and solutions listed, and I want to avoid 
cluttering the pages. But, another idea, maybe we can add it to the 
extensions repository, even if it is no "real" extension?
A PIM client is considered as an integrated part of a Office suite be 
many users, by using this page we address these demands  and if we are 
removing the first 'Download' link, which is due the new OO.o page not 
necessary anymore, we have the space. Beside that we should use the 
Extension Repository for OO.o Extensions only



* OpenOffice.org Solutions page


Definitely a good idea!


* English FAQ
 -> Update Outlook related FAQ questions


+1


* FAQ pages from other locals
 AI: ?


If we agree on mentioning Lightning in the 3.0 PR, I'll of course use 
it in the Germanophone PR as well. We might also modify our local 
product pages accordingly.



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2008-09-05 Thread Kay Koll




Alexandro Colorado wrote:

So here is an idea:

And maybe it is possible ( we are talking about a banner ) to replace 
"recommends" by an visual element.


A big & for example, or something as   ->
<-
Anything that expresses cooperation...

Cor



If anyone watch this month linux journal cover it has T-Bird in some 
boxing gloves versus mutt.
http://www.linuxjournal.com/files/linuxjournal.com/linuxjournal/issues/173/cover173.png 



What about having Otto and T-Bird singing on a "Bird of the same 
feather" drum.


The idea is pretty hillarious and marketing friendly. We do need some 
great artists to provide the artwork but I think is doable.



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Re: [marketing] Detailed list of OO.o+TB cross promotion activities

2008-09-05 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,


We saw a start on [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a banner that can be used 
together with the announcement on the Thunderbird/Lightning website, 
just as we expect some materials from Mozilla.
Alexandro and Luke Jones were already making a start, but I asked 
something about the wording, the message. And to pick up this 
subject: what do we think of:


a - OpenOffice.org recommends Mozilla Thunderbird / Lightning

b - OpenOffice.org recommends using Mozilla Thunderbird as an Outlook 
replacement


c - OpenOffice.org & Mozilla Thunderbird / Lightning

d -  (better ideas),

Ciao,

Cor

I will go for a but I will also add 'Messaging' or E-Mail (second is 
more understandable).


I have checked the structure of the Mozilla.com web site and they did 
not use banners nor have rooms to add one but it would be good to have a 
banner for other location.  Without being on the Mozilla page, we need 
to describe what TB does.

* OpenOffice.org recommends Mozilla Thunderbird / Lightning for your emails

Beside that in my opinion the TB Feature page is the best location for 
adding OO.o

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/features.html

My first proposal (Based on the current page structure)

Office Productivity
OpenOffice.org s the leading open-source office software suite  for word 
processing, spreadsheets, presentations, graphics, databases and more


or

Office Productivity
Are you looking for a full featured Open Source Office suite ?
OpenOffice.org is your choice, tens of million users already using it 
all other the world


Kay

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Re: [marketing] Detailed list of OO.o+TB cross promotion activities

2008-08-29 Thread Kay Koll


John,
Alexandro,

I am currently in the full swing and would like to continue this program 
but the long term relations should be continued to be fostered by you.


Kay

Alexandro Colorado wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:38:17 -0500, Charles-H. Schulz 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hello Kay,
Le 28 août 08 à 12:21, Kay Koll a écrit :



Hi,

as discussed in the Monday conference call, here is my detailed list 
of actions (OpenOffice.org only)

This is not a final list. Any comments and suggestions are welcome

* Announced in the OpenOffice.org Newsletter
* Along with the OO.o 3.0 announcement, TB+Lightning (LG) introduction.
   AI: Kay Koll (KK)

* Announcement on news.openoffice.org along with the 3.0 announcement
 * Along with the OO.o 3.0 announcement, TB+Lightning (LG) get 
mentioned

AI: ?

Product (Why) Pages
===
* Mentioned on the OO.o product page (with real live example)
 Each section get extend by just a single sentence.
 * Why OpenOffice.org
Government:
 Adding TB+LG to 'Best Value' section
 -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_gov.html
   Education:
 Adding TB+LG to 'teacher and academics' section
 -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_sme.html
   Enterprises:
 Adding TB+LG to 'The no-hassle answer'
 -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_sme.html
   Not for profit
Adding TB+LG to 'Software for all'
-> http://why.openoffice.org/why_nfp.html
   IT Business
 N/A
  FOSS
Adding TB+LG to 'Software for all'
-> http://why.openoffice.org/why_foss.html

AI: KK (?)

Thank You Pages
=
* Adding TB+LG on the thank you pages
 * OO.o 3.0 thank you page
   http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920897
   AI: KK

 * Registration thank you page

http://registration.services.openoffice.org/OOo3.0Beta/thankyou.html

   AI: KK

OO.o Solution Page
==
* OpenOffice.org Solutions page 
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions)

 * Description could be improved
 AI: (?)


FAQ pages

* English FAQ
-> Update Outlook related FAQ questions
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/Does_OpenOffice.org_come_with_the_equivalent_of_Microsoft_Outlook%3F 


AI: KK
* FAQ pages from other locals
AI: ?



Sorry I could not attend the confcall but do you think we need to 
coordinate a bit with Mozilla Marketing? I can work on this if you wish.


best,
Charles.


Hey Charles you know Pascal from Mozilla Europe, I think this will be 
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[marketing] Detailed list of OO.o+TB cross promotion activities

2008-08-28 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

Unfortunately I forgot to add Rafael Ebron, our counter part from the 
Mozilla Communication but I wanted him on the loop. Sorry for re-sending


as discussed in the Monday conference call, here is my detailed list of
actions (OpenOffice.org only)
This is not a final list. Any comments and suggestions are welcome

* Announced in the OpenOffice.org Newsletter
 * Along with the OO.o 3.0 announcement, TB+Lightning (LG) introduction.
AI: Kay Koll (KK)

* Announcement on news.openoffice.org along with the 3.0 announcement
  * Along with the OO.o 3.0 announcement, TB+Lightning (LG) get mentioned
 AI: ?

Product (Why) Pages
===
* Mentioned on the OO.o product page (with real live example)
  Each section get extend by just a single sentence.
  * Why OpenOffice.org
 Government:
  Adding TB+LG to 'Best Value' section
  -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_gov.html
Education:
  Adding TB+LG to 'teacher and academics' section
  -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_sme.html
Enterprises:
  Adding TB+LG to 'The no-hassle answer'
  -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_sme.html
Not for profit
 Adding TB+LG to 'Software for all'
 -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_nfp.html
IT Business
  N/A
   FOSS
 Adding TB+LG to 'Software for all'
 -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_foss.html

AI: KK (?)

Thank You Pages
=
* Adding TB+LG on the thank you pages
  * OO.o 3.0 thank you page
http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920897
AI: KK

  * Registration thank you page
 http://registration.services.openoffice.org/OOo3.0Beta/thankyou.html
AI: KK


OO.o Solution Page
==
* OpenOffice.org Solutions page
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions)
  * Description could be improved
  AI: (?)


FAQ pages

* English FAQ
 -> Update Outlook related FAQ questions

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/Does_OpenOffice.org_come_with_the_equivalent_of_Microsoft_Outlook%3F
 AI: KK
* FAQ pages from other locals
 AI: ?


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2008-08-28 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

as discussed in the Monday conference call, here is my detailed list of 
actions (OpenOffice.org only)

This is not a final list. Any comments and suggestions are welcome

* Announced in the OpenOffice.org Newsletter
 * Along with the OO.o 3.0 announcement, TB+Lightning (LG) introduction.
AI: Kay Koll (KK)

* Announcement on news.openoffice.org along with the 3.0 announcement
  * Along with the OO.o 3.0 announcement, TB+Lightning (LG) get mentioned
 AI: ?

Product (Why) Pages
===
* Mentioned on the OO.o product page (with real live example)
  Each section get extend by just a single sentence.
  * Why OpenOffice.org
 Government:
  Adding TB+LG to 'Best Value' section
  -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_gov.html
Education:
  Adding TB+LG to 'teacher and academics' section
  -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_sme.html
Enterprises:
  Adding TB+LG to 'The no-hassle answer'
  -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_sme.html
Not for profit
 Adding TB+LG to 'Software for all'
 -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_nfp.html
IT Business
  N/A
   FOSS
 Adding TB+LG to 'Software for all'
 -> http://why.openoffice.org/why_foss.html

AI: KK (?)

Thank You Pages
=
* Adding TB+LG on the thank you pages
  * OO.o 3.0 thank you page
http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index.html?cid=920897
AI: KK

  * Registration thank you page
 http://registration.services.openoffice.org/OOo3.0Beta/thankyou.html
AI: KK
 


OO.o Solution Page
==
* OpenOffice.org Solutions page 
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions)

  * Description could be improved
  AI: (?)


FAQ pages

* English FAQ
 -> Update Outlook related FAQ questions
  
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/General/Does_OpenOffice.org_come_with_the_equivalent_of_Microsoft_Outlook%3F

 AI: KK
* FAQ pages from other locals
 AI: ?


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[marketing] Meeting Minutes - Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning promotion on OO.o

2008-08-25 Thread Kay Koll


Telephone conference, August 25th 2008: 15:00 - 15:30

Participants: Rafael Ebron - Marketing lead Mozilla Messaging
  Cor Nouws - OpenOffice.org Markting project
  Alexandro Colorado - OpenOffice.org Markting project
  Kay Koll - Host and OpenOffice.org Markting project

Subject: Thunderbird+Lightning and OpenOffice.org cross promotion
 activities

This minutes based on Cor's and my notes. Feel free to report any 
inaccuracies.


Introduction by Kay why it is important to do a cross promotion.
Users expecting a Mail/Calendaring solution as part of an Office suite 
because of the Outlook client within the Microsoft Office suite.
The idea is to have at least have a recommendation: have a look on 
Mozilla, that offers functionality you are looking for.

No plans for a bundling yet, it requires (deeper discussing)
There are too many pro and cons. It help unexperienced users only, 
experienced might hate this


Rafael asked for OO.o web statistic
Kay provided following for July 2008
  * 33M page hits of openoffice.org
  * 11.6 M downloads in July
  * 40K filled out the survey
Cour provided the numbers for the Netherlands
  * Daily downloads: 2500-3500
Rafael asked for the OO.o schedule
Kay: Launch currently scheduled for September 16th. There might be 
delays because of testing, translation

Rafael was happy with proposal now but just needs implementation time.
* what spots are needed? logo's language
* He can send info downloads in separate mail
* Thunderbird 3 roadmap
  * beta 1 in September
  * beta 2 in October
  * final January
Thunderbird 3 will integrate Lightning the project name Lightning may 
disappear

They are revamping Mozilla TB website until TB3 Beta 2, end of October

Kay: We have to use the Thunderbird release which is available in Sept. 
which is TB 2.0.0.16 + Lightning 0.9.  No integrated setup available of 
TB +Lightning. Provided in two separate downloads


Kay: We have identify the best locations on OO.o for a promotion
* Product Page
* Download Page (Needs to be discussed but the importance had decreased 
due to automatic download)


Rafael suggested to add a pointer to the 'Thanks for downloading page'

Rafael could add OO.o promotion on the Thunderbird page.

Rafael are they plans to be present on trade shows and conferences?
Kay: Yes, but it depends of the local marketing projects

Rafael: Mozilla could provide marketing material and collateral
Mozilla Europe communities may translate for various countries
and for Chinese version they could ask the Chinese organization
Marketing related work
* used to do that with Mozilla Europe but it is a separate organisation now
-> We need to ask John McCreesh for a room for Thunderbird collateral on 
the Marketing page.


Kay: Next steps
* We have define what we need and what we want
* Specification of : links, language, artwork

Action Items:
Kay Koll:  Specifying the material planned for the promotion

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2008-08-22 Thread Kay Koll


Rafael and Florian,

It seemed to be that Monday should be the day for call. I would prefer 
to do it early

17:00 or 18:00 CET which is 8am or 9am PST

Rafael and all does this works for everyone ?
I am going to send out the dial in information on Monday to all attendees

Regards

Kay

Cor Nouws wrote:

Hi Kay, Rafael, *,

Kay Koll wrote (20-8-2008 17:40)


Yes,  this would be possible. Due to conflict which showed up today 
I could do 19:00 CET / 10PST.
If this is too late/early please shout, we may find a more 
convenient time/day.


Everyone who wanted to attend, drop me a short note to send them 
the dial in information. (It has toll free numbers for many 
European countries and USA)




Monday next week would work for me


I've read this thread and like the positive attitude and nice chances. 
As member of the marketing project, I would like to join meeting next 
Monday (90% sure atm).


Regards,
Cor



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Re: [marketing] Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning promotion on OO.o

2008-08-18 Thread Kay Koll


Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote:

[..]

Definitely. I've heard for TB 3.0, Lightning will be directly
integrated, so maybe this could be a starter to do more?
  
Yes, this is correct but TB 3.0 is scheduled for begin of 2009. I wanted 
to start with the promotion sooner and updating it when TB 3.0 is available.
There will be a lot of noise in the press when 3.0 showed up,  The plan 
is to have OO.o reviews where they mentioning TB.  This will increase 
the download numbers of TB


Regards

Kay

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Re: [marketing] Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning promotion on OO.o

2008-08-15 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

The OO.o and Lightning release date went closer.
I am in contact with Rafael Ebron Mozilla's international marketing he 
is also interested in cross promoting OO.o.


Following initiatives was not rejected in my first mailing end of June
* Announced in the OpenOffice.org Newsletter
* Announcement on news.openoffice.org along with the 3.0 announcement
* Mentioned on the OO.o product/features page (with real live example)
* OpenOffice.org Solutions page 
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions)


Not finally discussed where a promotion link on download.openoffice.org

It is safe to say that an integration or bundling with OO.o  is not planned.

Is this summary correct so far?
Nether mind I would link re-initiate the discussion about promoting 
Thunderbird +Lightning on the download page of OO.o, which is in my 
opinion the most prominent place for a promotion.


We might start also a discussion how OO.o could be promoted by the 
Mozilla Thunderbird team.  Adding an OpenOffice.org pointer on the 
Thunderbird page might be an option.


Finally we could arrange a telephone conference to discuss the basics

Regards

Kay




Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

This is the plan, there will be a Lightning version available, the 
same as we plan to bundle with StarOffice.


are there also plans to bundle or at least link to it from OOo 3? 
Maybe at the end of the setup? I don't know if we should go this far, 
as we never did that before with other products out of good reasons - 
however, this doesn't prevent us from linking to it prominently from 
our website.


I am in contact with David Ascher (CEO Mozilla MailCo) and with the 
Mozilla Thunderbird engineering. They like the idea for a cross 
promotion, so we should get the backing from MailCo, too.


That's great!


* Announcement on news.openoffice.org along with the 3.0 announcement


+1


* Announced in Erwin's (Kay) OpenOffice.org Newsletter


+1


* Mentioned on the OO.o product/features page


+1, maybe with some real-life examples.

* OpenOffice.org Solutions page 
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions)


+1

* Promotions by local OO.o Markting Projects on the local OO.o pages, 
Tradeshows and Conferences


I'd leave that up to the local MarCons, but we can at least provide 
them with material. For my area (Germany), I'd definitely go for it. 
In fact, on trade shows, we already advertise the combination of 
TB+Lightning+OOo.



* Download link on download.openoffice.org


Same problem as above - we never went this far before. I personally 
don't have a problem with it, but I'd like to hear other's opinions as 
well.


[Charles]

Florian, I know Jane, I can ring her if you want or we can organize a 
confcall with you. Would you like to do this? 


I know Jane as well, we chat every now and then. ;-) A ConfCall would 
be a good idea. I'm not available until July, so let's wait what 
others think and then we maybe could arrange a ConfCall with some OOo 
people and some from Mozilla to do some brainstorming?


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[marketing] Re: WollMux available in extension repository

2008-07-16 Thread Kay Koll


Hi Florian,

I am planning to have a section at the newsletter where I introduce 1-3 
useful extensions, or integrations, tools etc. This extension is worth 
to be mentioned in the July newsletter


Due to my vacation, I have to postponed the July newsletter to  August 4th

Regards

Kay

Florian Effenberger wrote:
WollMux is an OpenOffice.org plugin. It features letterhead 
generation, advanced form functionality such as plausibility checks 
and computed data, special printing functions that deal with 
requirements of a public administration, and much more. The WollMux is 
an OpenOffice.org plugin developed by the Municipality of the City of 
Munich, Bavaria. It is now available from the OpenOffice.org Extension 
Repository at http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/wollmux


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Re: [marketing] Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning promotion on OO.o

2008-06-24 Thread Kay Koll


Hi Florian,

+1. Do you know the timeframe when the calendaring component will be 
integrated into Thunderbird? Will it be (timely) ready for OOo 3.0, or 
will it take longer, i.e. can we promote this together?
This is the plan, there will be a Lightning version available, the same 
as we plan to bundle with StarOffice.


Do you know if then it already has some links to OOo? I know that 
there have been features planned to integrate parts into OOo, but I'm 
not aware on how developed they are yet. Maybe Christian Jansen knows 
more? 
No links or Lightning specific features available yet but OO.o is the 
preferred Office suite any feature which requires an integration in an 
Office suite will be integrated with OO.o first.  A shared setup or 
installation packages is currently not planned.
Do you already have concrete ideas? I have a good contact to Jane 
Finette, European Marketing Director at Mozilla, so I can give her a 
call if we have some rough ideas. 
I am in contact with David Ascher (CEO Mozilla MailCo) and with the 
Mozilla Thunderbird engineering. They like the idea for a cross 
promotion, so we should get the backing from MailCo, too.


Here are a couple of ideas :
* Announcement on news.openoffice.org along with the 3.0 announcement
* Announced in Erwin's (Kay) OpenOffice.org Newsletter
* Mentioned on the OO.o product/features page
* OpenOffice.org Solutions page 
(http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Solutions)
* Promotions by local OO.o Markting Projects on the local OO.o pages, 
Tradeshows and Conferences


* Download link on download.openoffice.org

Regards

Kay





Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hello Kay,

In my opinion we should promote solution packages, because this is 
exactly what the competition does and this is what companies expecting.


+1. Do you know the timeframe when the calendaring component will be 
integrated into Thunderbird? Will it be (timely) ready for OOo 3.0, or 
will it take longer, i.e. can we promote this together?


Do you know if then it already has some links to OOo? I know that 
there have been features planned to integrate parts into OOo, but I'm 
not aware on how developed they are yet. Maybe Christian Jansen knows 
more?


Do you already have concrete ideas? I have a good contact to Jane 
Finette, European Marketing Director at Mozilla, so I can give her a 
call if we have some rough ideas.


Florian

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[marketing] Mozilla Thunderbird + Lightning promotion on OO.o

2008-06-24 Thread Kay Koll


Hi,

you might have heard that the Mozilla Community is working on a 
Calendering Add-In for the Mozilla email client. The calendaring 
extension is currently implemented as a Mozilla Thunderbird Add-In but 
it will get integrated part of the Thunderbird application.
We will have then a full featured and mature email/calendaring solution, 
even server based calendaring is possible.


Due to the bundling of Microsoft Outlook with Microsoft Office, many 
customers asking for an Outlook equivalent for OO.o.

Mozilla Thunderbird has several advantages :
* Supports the same set of platforms
* Based on the popular Mozilla Framework
* Mozilla Thunderbird is one of the most popular open source email client

In my opinion we should promote solution packages, because this is 
exactly what the competition does and this is what companies expecting.



Regards

Kay

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Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer

2007-11-21 Thread Kay Koll


Alexandro,


You are totally right, .NET is not the only way to connect to OO.o but 
.NET is much easier to use as OLE/COM due to the fact that it is a 
language binding instead of the bridge. Using OLE/COM bridge is not that 
easy and the code looks a bit ugly but you can compare the .NET language 
binding with the C++ or Java binding.
You had used the term CLI in your original version, which is the 
underlining byte code language of .NET. The term .NET is better known as 
CLI. Please do not mix up CLI and OLE/COM both technologies have almost 
nothing to do with each other.


Regards

Kay



Alexandro Colorado wrote:
I check your document and just to clarify something. To connect UNO with 
OLE and COM you don't necesarily need .NET. Accordin to this post you 
can make conections with UNO through com using Delphi, Python, C, C++, 
VisualBasic >6.0,  Ruby, TCL, and PHP.


http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=9815&sid=2b1e42d89efcb283168703cba170598e 



On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:54:02 -0600, Kay Koll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Alexandro,

Excellent document.
It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You 
find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739


It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google 
Docs. Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension 
development perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o 
dialogs)
A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that 
this Extension follows the Extension design rules.


Regards

Kay



Alexandro Colorado wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote:
[snip]

Created issue 8379 for this

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739


I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon...
I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer:

(a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros
 (maybe? have we a repository for these?)
(b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions
(c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo
(d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry
 in their own applications

Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace
(a)?
 I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core 
developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could 
develop aditional flyers for each of them.



(I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of
scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to 
them

too.)

 We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies.


Why should any of these people want to contribute?
 I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can 
have much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention 
oooforum since it has a large repository of snippets while 
codesnippets haven't really pick up as much. Then again I think we 
should acomodate this emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send 
it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc.



- OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used
by tens
  of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your
boyfriend/girlfriend, mum,
  dad, kids, colleagues...)
- Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join
- OOo allows you to code in your language of choice

in addition, for (c)

- OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by
  talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of
  the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc)
- Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to
great
  lengths to support motivated and capable individuals
- Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a
professional
  software engineer.

Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer?

John




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Re: [Marketing] Developer oriented Flyer

2007-11-20 Thread Kay Koll


Alexandro,

Excellent document.
It was easier for me to add my changes directly in the document. You 
find the edited document as a new attachment to bug #83739


It is unclear to me why the image on the second page shows Google Docs. 
Especially the Google Docs Extension is from the Extension development 
perspective a bad example (Swing Dialogs instead of OO.o dialogs)
A logo of the Weblog Publisher might be better due to the fact that this 
Extension follows the Extension design rules.


Regards

Kay



Alexandro Colorado wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:25:10 -0600, John McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 13:17 +, John McCreesh wrote:
[snip]

Created issue 8379 for this

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=83739


I was thinking about this again while walking the dog this afternoon...
I guess we have four possible targets for this flyer:

(a) entry level hackers who could write and share macros
 (maybe? have we a repository for these?)
(b) intermediate level hackers who could write extensions
(c) expert hackers who could contribute to core OOo
(d) hackers/systems integrators who could use OOo componentry
 in their own applications

Is this correct? are (a) and / or (d) in scope? does (b) now replace
(a)?


I included pieces from all 4 markets. From integrators, to core 
developers, to extension developers and macro developers. We could 
develop aditional flyers for each of them.



(I'm assuming that other contributors - e.g. translators - are out of
scope of this particular document, although we do need to market to them
too.)


We could post it to the native-lang and see if it flies.


Why should any of these people want to contribute?


I really think projects like code-snippet need a revamp so we can have 
much more code than what we had there. I was about to mention oooforum 
since it has a large repository of snippets while codesnippets haven't 
really pick up as much. Then again I think we should acomodate this 
emails for the developers to notice. i.e. send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc.



- OOo is the leading open-source office suite - your code could be used
by tens
  of millions of grateful users tomorrow (including your
boyfriend/girlfriend, mum,
  dad, kids, colleagues...)
- Your extensions just look like regular OOo - you can't see the join
- OOo allows you to code in your language of choice

in addition, for (c)

- OOo is a complex system, developed over 20 years, and supported by
  talented volunteers and professional developers sponsored by some of
  the most respected names in IT (Sun, IBM, Novell, RedFlag, etc)
- Understanding the code is challenging but the community will go to
great
  lengths to support motivated and capable individuals
- Getting your code accepted is a testimonial your abilities as a
professional
  software engineer.

Do we need to get some of this into the Flyer?

John






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