Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jochen Wiedmann

Yep, I understand the intent and that is good. A reasonable interval(?)
for micro releases should be fine.


I'd be quite happy about more releases of Maven in its current state.
However, what matters more, IMO, would be micro releases of the core
plugins.

Jochen


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Re: [vote] Collapse Maven permission groups

2007-01-11 Thread Brett Porter

After the allotted 72 hours, the results stand as:

Full proposal: 9 (7 PMC, 2 committers): Brett, Arnaud, Emmanuel,  
Trygve, Dennis, Fabrizio, Lukas, Rahul, Milos
Partial proposal: 6 (6 PMC): Joakim, John T, Kenney, Jesse, John C,  
Jason

Abstained: 3 (3 PMC): Mike, Vincent S, Stephane
Against: None.
Not yet voted: 3 PMC: Vincent M, Carlos, James

This is in favour of the full proposal. I will follow up with the PMC  
about how we execute this.


- Brett

On 09/01/2007, at 10:50 AM, Brett Porter wrote:


Hi,

Since there was no objection to calling a vote, as discussed in the  
proposal, I'd like to call a vote on this.


To see the proposal and discussion: http://mail-archives.apache.org/ 
mod_mbox/maven-dev/200612.mbox/%3c67FC84B5-4510-469B-AEC1- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Vote to operate as
- requiring 2/3rds of the PMC to vote (13), with a majority within  
those votes for it to pass (ie, add them all and if the result is >  
0). Other votes would be welcome with reasons as advisory, but not  
binding.

- Votes can be changed at any time before result is posted.
- Vote is open for at least 72 hours, completing once enough have  
voted after that.
- There are two different +1 options. If there is a majority for  
"collapse all groups" against both other options, then it will  
pass. If it fails, then all votes will be transferred to the  
"retain subproject access restrictions" and recounted.


The proposal is to collapse all access groups into a single ACL for  
Maven, with the following list of 37 committers: Fabrice  
Bellingard, David Blevins, John Casey, Maria Ching, Joakim Erdfelt,  
Dan Fabulich (pending), Brian Fox, Fabrizio Giustina, Arnaud  
Heritier, Jeff Jensen, Shinobu Kawai, Milos Kleint, Trygve  
Laugstol, Felipe Leme, Dennis Lundberg, Vincent Massol, Jesse  
McConnell, Stephane Nicoll, Mike Perham, Brett Porter, Edwin  
Punzalan, Daniel Rall, Allan Ramirez, Carlos Sanchez, Vincent  
Siveton, Wendy Smoak, Torbjorn Smorgrav, James Strachan, Chris  
Stevenson, Rahul Thakur, Lukas Theussl, John Tolentino, Dan Tran,  
Emmanuel Venisse, Kenney Westerhof, Andrew Williams, Henri Yandell,  
and Jason van Zyl.


The alternate proposal is to retain subproject access restrictions,  
so the groups will be (PMC members removed, as they retain access  
to all areas):
maven=wsmoak,felipeal,jjensen,shinobu,dlr,mkleint,handyande,epunzalan, 
aramirez,dantran,chrisjs,brianf,bellingard,oching (/maven-1,/ 
components,/plugins,/archetype,/core-integration-testing,/jxr,/ 
release,/skins,/resources,/release-testing)

doxia=dblevins
archiva=bayard,epunzalan,oching
continuum=dblevins,rinku
scm=dantran,smorgrav
wagon=
surefire=

All of the above groups will have access to: /pom, /project, / 
site, /shared in this proposal, so it is essentially to collapse  
the @maven group, making the permission groups match the existence  
of a corresponding dev lists.


[ ] +1 for the full proposal - collapse all groups (implies a vote  
for the next option if vote doesn't pass)
[ ] +1 for the partial proposal - retain subproject access  
restrictions

[ ] 0 abstain from vote
[ ] -1 do not alter the current permissions

Cheers,
Brett

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RE: [M1] Status for modello / maven-model / m1-core

2007-01-11 Thread Jeff Jensen
For a quick "opinion ASAP", I did a quick review of the pages, and they look
pretty good.  When I can review more in-depth, I may suggest some additional
info/clarifications and writing changes on the site docs.

My initial suggestion on the Overview page is that I would like a link to an
example/real page of each of the potential items that it can generate to
help the reader understand what they could get when using it.  Of course,
for starters, use the POM reference page as one.


-Original Message-
From: Arnaud HERITIER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:53 PM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: [M1] Status for modello / maven-model / m1-core

ping ??
Sorry, but I would like to have your opinion ASAP.
My holidays are ended at the end of this week and I want to finish as much
tasks as possible before.

Arnaud

On 1/10/07, Arnaud HERITIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
>   Since some days I'm working on modello / maven-model / m1-core.
>   Here is the current status. If you have some comments ... feel free
>
> Modello
>   To resolve relative entities in the POM (to keep the compatibility 
> with maven 1.0.x) I had to update the STAX-RI plugin to add a new read 
> method (http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MODELLO-77
> ) with a path as parameter (instead of a stream).
>
> Modello plugin for maven 1.
>   I updated the maven-modello-plugin for m1 to use the latest versions 
> of modello.
>   I also updated (created) a documentation for it :
>   http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/plugins/modello/
>   If some of you can take some minutes to review it (my english 
> particularly ;-) )
>   I'm not sure, but it could be possible when we'll release it to move 
> it out from the sandbox ? It could be a new plugin in the m1 
> distribution, even if I'm not sure that it will have a lot of users 
> ;-) (Note that this is a really little plugin to maintain)
>
> Maven-model
>   I built the documentation from modello :
> http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/reference/maven-model/3.0.2-SNAPSHOT
> /maven.html
>
>   The problem is that we manually updated the previous documentation 
> build from the model by Brett.
>   I propose that now we always use (as in m2) the documentation (and 
> the
> site) generated by modello.
>   We'll update the model documentation if necessary.
>   We have to fix in the maven.mdo the documentation which was updated 
> in the generated xdoc and not in the real model.
>   I attached the patch which lists changes from the previous generation.
>   The problem is to merge changes in links and in some comments for m1.
>   In a modello model we can't have some notes for a given version of 
> the model ?
>
>   I continue to test m1 with the new model which uses a stax 
> reader/writer.
>
> Arnaud
>
>
>


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Re: [m2] New pre-package phase?

2007-01-11 Thread Brett Porter
I don't think either of these are cases for 'package resources', but  
general lifecycle improvements (Which are in the 2.1 design wiki).


Is that right?

- Brett

On 06/01/2007, at 7:47 AM, Aaron Digulla wrote:


Brett Porter wrote:

Can anyone think of a use case other than the war plugin, or  
should we

just go with the pre-package phase?


I have these use cases:

- Filter or generate files for the site plugin (for example, extract
information out of the sources for apt files)

- Multi-Step source/unit test generation (XML -> XML -> Java and DB ->
XML -> Java including filtering)

Regards,

--
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Follow me and I'll show you something beyond the limits."
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Re: continuum-store and JDO

2007-01-11 Thread Rahul Thakur


Marcelo Fukushima wrote:

On 1/11/07, Rahul Thakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
> yeah...
> but now that ive settled it, ive encountered a new set of probs, this
> time in the data-management with the trunk on svn:
> -while backing up the continuum store, a FileWriter is used (wich uses
> default system char encoding), but the stream used to write the xml
> tries to use utf-8, in wich case an exception is thrown;

This is a known issue. I think its to do with locale settings.


ive attached a patch that i think solves this one (it actually uses
the same charset encoding in the writer by using a OutputStreamWriter
( FileOutputStream, Charset )

i know this test passes to me now but itd be great if anyone else
could test it in a diff env (maybe other jdks and os's)

http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ManageAttachments.jspa?id=45956


Thanks! I will take it for a spin (hopefully shortly) though i am on 
Windows XP as well. Yep, it might be a good idea if we can get it to run 
on another machine as well.






> -the backup file (an xml) is compared to a hard coded xml file... but
> at least with my dev env (win xp with jdk6), some child nodes are
> swaped...
You mean the nodes _do_ exist _but_ in a different order.  Can you point
me to the test that is showing this behaviour?


exactly... ill generate it again, but i think the id tag gets
switched... its in the DataManagementToolTest inside the
continuum-data-management module


Cool, will have a look when I get back home. I came across a different 
behaviour with HashMap key ordering in JDK 6.  I suspect if its 
something similar in this case.




btw i cant seen to compile from maven: it gives me an Access Denied
Exception on some random directories (im compiling and running the
tests from inside eclipse)


Do you have continuum checkout on your drive's root or nested a few 
levels in another directory ?


Rahul





Cheers,
Rahul

>
> the first one is most certainly a bug (and i already have a fix),
> while the second one im not so sure so i wanted to ask yall first
>
> regards,
> takeshi
>
> On 1/11/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> windows path length pb?
>>
>> Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
>> > im looking into it, but i cant seen to install the modules 
locally -

>> > im getting a weird random access denied error...
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/10/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Yes. A global patch would be better instead of separate patches.
>> >> I tried your 2 patches and updated locally jpox-* to 1.1.3 in
>> >> continuum parent pom. With them, all tests works fine, but 
continuum

>> >> doesn't start.
>> >>
>> >> Emmanuel
>> >>
>> >> Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
>> >> > Hello dear devs.
>> >> >
>> >> > After everyone's help, ive noticed that jpox was saving the
>> >> > BuildDefinition with wrong values (the buildFresh and 
arguments and
>> >> > possibly others too)... since i dont know how jpox work, the 
first
>> >> > thing i tried was to update to a more recent version of it 
(namely

>> >> > 1.1.3) and everything worked fine...
>> >> > im going to attach the test case to jira (actually a patch to 
the
>> >> > testcase to check those things too), but should i attach a 
patch to

>> >> > the pom too?
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1/9/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> The metadata file (and enhanced classes) are generated when you
>> use
>> >> >> Maven to build the project. As long as eclipse doesn't
>> overwrite the
>> >> >> class files it should be fine. Alternatively, you can use the
>> eclipse
>> >> >> plugin for jpox to make sure the classes get enhanced and 
just run

>> >> >> maven once to generate the metadata file. I've never used that
>> >> >> plugin, but it is available from the jpox site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks!
>> >> >> - Brett
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 09/01/2007, at 2:27 PM, Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > hello folks! i sent a couple of emails to the user list, 
but i

>> >> guess i
>> >> >> > could help a little too, right? so i just checked out the
>> code from
>> >> >> > SVN and wanted to tackle
>> >> >> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1103
>> >> >> > while i could isolate the bug (the property is not getting
>> persisted
>> >> >> > on the db) but since i know almost nothing about jdo, i cant
>> run the
>> >> >> > tests inside eclipse to try to figure out the solution and i
>> couldnt
>> >> >> > find where the metadata file or the enhanced version of the
>> classes
>> >> >> > are found...
>> >> >> > is there any doc that can help me with that kinda of info?
>> thanks
>> >> >> > in advance
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > []'s
>> >> >> > Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>






[jira] Subscription: Design & Best Practices

2007-01-11 Thread jira
Issue Subscription
Filter: Design & Best Practices (37 issues)
Subscriber: mavendevlist


Key Summary
MNG-2184Possible problem with @aggregator and forked lifecycles
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2184
MNG-612 implement conflict resolution techniques
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-612
MNG-2477Implement repository security improvements for verification of 
downloaded artifacts
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2477
MNG-2642maven-archetype-webapp does not produce Standard Directory Layout
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2642
MNG-1305Document Maven's own development process
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1305
MNG-2125[doc] when and how to define plugins in a pom
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2125
MNG-1936pattern: for mojo parameters which have default values in the POM 
we need standard usage
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1936
MNG-2381improved control over the repositories in the POM
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-2381
MNG-1950Ability to introduce new lifecycles phases
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1950
MNG-1931add a reportingManagement section
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1931
MNG-1634move maven-core-it to integration-tests
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1634
MNG-1563how to write integration tests
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1563
MNG-474 performance improvement for forked lifecycles
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-474
MNG-1381best practices: testing strategies
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1381
MNG-1440Developer Object Model (DOM)
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1440
MNG-1439Organization Object Model (OOM) 
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1439
MNG-1463best practices: plugin inheritance for a multi project build
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1463
MNG-1452best practices: deployment of aggregate JARs produced by the 
assembly plug-in
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1452
MNG-1425best practices: the location of configuration files vs resources
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1425
MNG-1468best practices: version management in multi project builds
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1468
MNG-1423best practices: setting up multi-module build
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1423
MNG-939 specify maven settings from command line
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-939
MNG-139 server definitions should be reusable
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-139
MNG-1569Make build process info read-only to mojos, and provide mechanism 
for explicit out-params for mojos to declare
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1569
MNG-657 possible chicken and egg problem with extensions
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-657
MNG-41  best practices: site management
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-41
MNG-1867deprecate system scope, analyse other use cases
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1867
MNG-905 review clean repo install of m2 for download trimming
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-905
MNG-140 refactor maven-artifact
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-140
MNG-125 guarded mojo execution
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-125
MNG-1437How to make additions to the POM and have it be backward/forward 
compatible
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1437
MNG-367 best practices: multi-user installation
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-367
MNG-868 Use uniform format for  and other tags
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-868
MNG-1441Starting thinking about a proper distributed repository mechanism a 
la CPAN
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1441
MNG-1885Uniquely identify modules by module name and version number
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1885
MNG-416 best practices:  multiple profile deployments
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-416
MNG-647 Allow Maven 2 to be monitored using JMX.
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-647


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Re: continuum-store and JDO

2007-01-11 Thread Marcelo Fukushima

On 1/11/07, Rahul Thakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
> yeah...
> but now that ive settled it, ive encountered a new set of probs, this
> time in the data-management with the trunk on svn:
> -while backing up the continuum store, a FileWriter is used (wich uses
> default system char encoding), but the stream used to write the xml
> tries to use utf-8, in wich case an exception is thrown;

This is a known issue. I think its to do with locale settings.


ive attached a patch that i think solves this one (it actually uses
the same charset encoding in the writer by using a OutputStreamWriter
( FileOutputStream, Charset )

i know this test passes to me now but itd be great if anyone else
could test it in a diff env (maybe other jdks and os's)

http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ManageAttachments.jspa?id=45956



> -the backup file (an xml) is compared to a hard coded xml file... but
> at least with my dev env (win xp with jdk6), some child nodes are
> swaped...
You mean the nodes _do_ exist _but_ in a different order.  Can you point
me to the test that is showing this behaviour?


exactly... ill generate it again, but i think the id tag gets
switched... its in the DataManagementToolTest inside the
continuum-data-management module

btw i cant seen to compile from maven: it gives me an Access Denied
Exception on some random directories (im compiling and running the
tests from inside eclipse)



Cheers,
Rahul

>
> the first one is most certainly a bug (and i already have a fix),
> while the second one im not so sure so i wanted to ask yall first
>
> regards,
> takeshi
>
> On 1/11/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> windows path length pb?
>>
>> Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
>> > im looking into it, but i cant seen to install the modules locally -
>> > im getting a weird random access denied error...
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/10/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Yes. A global patch would be better instead of separate patches.
>> >> I tried your 2 patches and updated locally jpox-* to 1.1.3 in
>> >> continuum parent pom. With them, all tests works fine, but continuum
>> >> doesn't start.
>> >>
>> >> Emmanuel
>> >>
>> >> Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
>> >> > Hello dear devs.
>> >> >
>> >> > After everyone's help, ive noticed that jpox was saving the
>> >> > BuildDefinition with wrong values (the buildFresh and arguments and
>> >> > possibly others too)... since i dont know how jpox work, the first
>> >> > thing i tried was to update to a more recent version of it (namely
>> >> > 1.1.3) and everything worked fine...
>> >> > im going to attach the test case to jira (actually a patch to the
>> >> > testcase to check those things too), but should i attach a patch to
>> >> > the pom too?
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1/9/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> The metadata file (and enhanced classes) are generated when you
>> use
>> >> >> Maven to build the project. As long as eclipse doesn't
>> overwrite the
>> >> >> class files it should be fine. Alternatively, you can use the
>> eclipse
>> >> >> plugin for jpox to make sure the classes get enhanced and just run
>> >> >> maven once to generate the metadata file. I've never used that
>> >> >> plugin, but it is available from the jpox site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks!
>> >> >> - Brett
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 09/01/2007, at 2:27 PM, Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > hello folks! i sent a couple of emails to the user list, but i
>> >> guess i
>> >> >> > could help a little too, right? so i just checked out the
>> code from
>> >> >> > SVN and wanted to tackle
>> >> >> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1103
>> >> >> > while i could isolate the bug (the property is not getting
>> persisted
>> >> >> > on the db) but since i know almost nothing about jdo, i cant
>> run the
>> >> >> > tests inside eclipse to try to figure out the solution and i
>> couldnt
>> >> >> > find where the metadata file or the enhanced version of the
>> classes
>> >> >> > are found...
>> >> >> > is there any doc that can help me with that kinda of info?
>> thanks
>> >> >> > in advance
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > []'s
>> >> >> > Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>




--
[]'s
Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima


Re: [M1] Status for modello / maven-model / m1-core

2007-01-11 Thread Arnaud HERITIER

ping ??
Sorry, but I would like to have your opinion ASAP.
My holidays are ended at the end of this week and I want to finish as much
tasks as possible before.

Arnaud

On 1/10/07, Arnaud HERITIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi guys,

  Since some days I'm working on modello / maven-model / m1-core.
  Here is the current status. If you have some comments ... feel free

Modello
  To resolve relative entities in the POM (to keep the compatibility with
maven 1.0.x) I had to update the STAX-RI plugin to add a new read method 
(http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MODELLO-77
) with a path as parameter (instead of a stream).

Modello plugin for maven 1.
  I updated the maven-modello-plugin for m1 to use the latest versions of
modello.
  I also updated (created) a documentation for it :
  http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/plugins/modello/
  If some of you can take some minutes to review it (my english
particularly ;-) )
  I'm not sure, but it could be possible when we'll release it to move it
out from the sandbox ? It could be a new plugin in the m1 distribution, even
if I'm not sure that it will have a lot of users ;-) (Note that this is a
really little plugin to maintain)

Maven-model
  I built the documentation from modello :
http://maven.apache.org/maven-1.x/reference/maven-model/3.0.2-SNAPSHOT/maven.html

  The problem is that we manually updated the previous documentation build
from the model by Brett.
  I propose that now we always use (as in m2) the documentation (and the
site) generated by modello.
  We'll update the model documentation if necessary.
  We have to fix in the maven.mdo the documentation which was updated in
the generated xdoc and not in the real model.
  I attached the patch which lists changes from the previous generation.
  The problem is to merge changes in links and in some comments for m1.
  In a modello model we can't have some notes for a given version of the
model ?

  I continue to test m1 with the new model which uses a stax
reader/writer.

Arnaud





Re: continuum-store and JDO

2007-01-11 Thread Rahul Thakur



Marcelo Fukushima wrote:

yeah...
but now that ive settled it, ive encountered a new set of probs, this
time in the data-management with the trunk on svn:
-while backing up the continuum store, a FileWriter is used (wich uses
default system char encoding), but the stream used to write the xml
tries to use utf-8, in wich case an exception is thrown;


This is a known issue. I think its to do with locale settings.


-the backup file (an xml) is compared to a hard coded xml file... but
at least with my dev env (win xp with jdk6), some child nodes are
swaped...
You mean the nodes _do_ exist _but_ in a different order.  Can you point 
me to the test that is showing this behaviour?


Cheers,
Rahul



the first one is most certainly a bug (and i already have a fix),
while the second one im not so sure so i wanted to ask yall first

regards,
takeshi

On 1/11/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

windows path length pb?

Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
> im looking into it, but i cant seen to install the modules locally -
> im getting a weird random access denied error...
>
>
> On 1/10/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yes. A global patch would be better instead of separate patches.
>> I tried your 2 patches and updated locally jpox-* to 1.1.3 in
>> continuum parent pom. With them, all tests works fine, but continuum
>> doesn't start.
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>> Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
>> > Hello dear devs.
>> >
>> > After everyone's help, ive noticed that jpox was saving the
>> > BuildDefinition with wrong values (the buildFresh and arguments and
>> > possibly others too)... since i dont know how jpox work, the first
>> > thing i tried was to update to a more recent version of it (namely
>> > 1.1.3) and everything worked fine...
>> > im going to attach the test case to jira (actually a patch to the
>> > testcase to check those things too), but should i attach a patch to
>> > the pom too?
>> >
>> > On 1/9/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> The metadata file (and enhanced classes) are generated when you 
use
>> >> Maven to build the project. As long as eclipse doesn't 
overwrite the
>> >> class files it should be fine. Alternatively, you can use the 
eclipse

>> >> plugin for jpox to make sure the classes get enhanced and just run
>> >> maven once to generate the metadata file. I've never used that
>> >> plugin, but it is available from the jpox site.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> - Brett
>> >>
>> >> On 09/01/2007, at 2:27 PM, Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > hello folks! i sent a couple of emails to the user list, but i
>> guess i
>> >> > could help a little too, right? so i just checked out the 
code from

>> >> > SVN and wanted to tackle
>> >> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1103
>> >> > while i could isolate the bug (the property is not getting 
persisted
>> >> > on the db) but since i know almost nothing about jdo, i cant 
run the
>> >> > tests inside eclipse to try to figure out the solution and i 
couldnt
>> >> > find where the metadata file or the enhanced version of the 
classes

>> >> > are found...
>> >> > is there any doc that can help me with that kinda of info? 
thanks

>> >> > in advance
>> >> > --
>> >> > []'s
>> >> > Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>







Re: [m1] Problem to build maven-model in continuum

2007-01-11 Thread Arnaud HERITIER

It's now fixed
Thx to kenney.
I didn't see the problem of version with the jdk.
I deployed modello jars after building them with a jdk 1.5.
The build failed on maven.zones which uses a jdk 1.4

Arnaud

On 1/10/07, Arnaud HERITIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi guys (and Jason particularly),


  I just added maven-model in continuum 1.0.3 to build it and it fails
with a plexus error

http://maven.zones.apache.org:8180/continuum/servlet/continuum/target/ProjectBuild.vm?view=ProjectBuild&buildId=55&id=9
  I don't have this problem when I build it with m1 itself.
  Can it be a problem with plexus because it is also used in continuum ?

Arnaud



Re: continuum-store and JDO

2007-01-11 Thread Marcelo Fukushima

yeah...
but now that ive settled it, ive encountered a new set of probs, this
time in the data-management with the trunk on svn:
-while backing up the continuum store, a FileWriter is used (wich uses
default system char encoding), but the stream used to write the xml
tries to use utf-8, in wich case an exception is thrown;
-the backup file (an xml) is compared to a hard coded xml file... but
at least with my dev env (win xp with jdk6), some child nodes are
swaped...

the first one is most certainly a bug (and i already have a fix),
while the second one im not so sure so i wanted to ask yall first

regards,
takeshi

On 1/11/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

windows path length pb?

Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
> im looking into it, but i cant seen to install the modules locally -
> im getting a weird random access denied error...
>
>
> On 1/10/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yes. A global patch would be better instead of separate patches.
>> I tried your 2 patches and updated locally jpox-* to 1.1.3 in
>> continuum parent pom. With them, all tests works fine, but continuum
>> doesn't start.
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>> Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
>> > Hello dear devs.
>> >
>> > After everyone's help, ive noticed that jpox was saving the
>> > BuildDefinition with wrong values (the buildFresh and arguments and
>> > possibly others too)... since i dont know how jpox work, the first
>> > thing i tried was to update to a more recent version of it (namely
>> > 1.1.3) and everything worked fine...
>> > im going to attach the test case to jira (actually a patch to the
>> > testcase to check those things too), but should i attach a patch to
>> > the pom too?
>> >
>> > On 1/9/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> The metadata file (and enhanced classes) are generated when you use
>> >> Maven to build the project. As long as eclipse doesn't overwrite the
>> >> class files it should be fine. Alternatively, you can use the eclipse
>> >> plugin for jpox to make sure the classes get enhanced and just run
>> >> maven once to generate the metadata file. I've never used that
>> >> plugin, but it is available from the jpox site.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> - Brett
>> >>
>> >> On 09/01/2007, at 2:27 PM, Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > hello folks! i sent a couple of emails to the user list, but i
>> guess i
>> >> > could help a little too, right? so i just checked out the code from
>> >> > SVN and wanted to tackle
>> >> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1103
>> >> > while i could isolate the bug (the property is not getting persisted
>> >> > on the db) but since i know almost nothing about jdo, i cant run the
>> >> > tests inside eclipse to try to figure out the solution and i couldnt
>> >> > find where the metadata file or the enhanced version of the classes
>> >> > are found...
>> >> > is there any doc that can help me with that kinda of info? thanks
>> >> > in advance
>> >> > --
>> >> > []'s
>> >> > Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>





--
[]'s
Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima


Re: Maven 1.0.2

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl

Sure, that sounds fair :-)

jason.

On 11 Jan 07, at 6:38 PM 11 Jan 07, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

With the new main page for the maven 2 site, I think that it is  
difficult to

find the m1 site link (in the bottom left).
Can't we add it with continuum and archiva in the box "other maven  
projects"

?

WDYT ?

Arnaud

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Subject: Maven 1.0.2
To: users@maven.apache.org


Hi All...

  I want MAven 1.0.2 version. I visit the maven site but the require
version page is outdated ,so where i download.


Thx in advance


With regards

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Re: Maven 1.0.2

2007-01-11 Thread Arnaud HERITIER

Ok, I'll do it asap.

Arnaud

On 1/12/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


yep

On 12/01/2007, at 10:38 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

> With the new main page for the maven 2 site, I think that it is
> difficult to
> find the m1 site link (in the bottom left).
> Can't we add it with continuum and archiva in the box "other maven
> projects"
> ?
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Arnaud
>
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> Date: Jan 11, 2007 11:41 AM
> Subject: Maven 1.0.2
> To: users@maven.apache.org
>
>
> Hi All...
>
>   I want MAven 1.0.2 version. I visit the maven site but the require
> version page is outdated ,so where i download.
>
>
> Thx in advance
>
>
> With regards
>
> Murugan
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Re: Maven 1.0.2

2007-01-11 Thread Brett Porter

yep

On 12/01/2007, at 10:38 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:

With the new main page for the maven 2 site, I think that it is  
difficult to

find the m1 site link (in the bottom left).
Can't we add it with continuum and archiva in the box "other maven  
projects"

?

WDYT ?

Arnaud

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Subject: Maven 1.0.2
To: users@maven.apache.org


Hi All...

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version page is outdated ,so where i download.


Thx in advance


With regards

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread Joakim Erdfelt
Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> On 11 Jan 07, at 3:42 PM 11 Jan 07, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
>> On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> hi john
>>
>>> You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
>>
>> have you implemented your header checked yet?
>>
>> i'm interested in collaborating on release auditing (in particular
>> for apache)
>>
>
> Joakim has scanning tools, and Jochen actually made a RAT plugin over
> at Mojo. I would make a plexus component of it I it were to be
> integrated.
>
> Jason.
See
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/plugins/maven-license-plugin/
It has a functional scanner, and a mostly complete injection (only
missing java source type).
You'll want
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/maven-shared-license/ also.

I started down the path of making a generic java source parser module at
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/maven-shared-java-parser/
but I ran out of time.

When I get more time I'll get back to it, or someone else can take over
where I left off.

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Fwd: Maven 1.0.2

2007-01-11 Thread Arnaud HERITIER

With the new main page for the maven 2 site, I think that it is difficult to
find the m1 site link (in the bottom left).
Can't we add it with continuum and archiva in the box "other maven projects"
?

WDYT ?

Arnaud

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Subject: Maven 1.0.2
To: users@maven.apache.org


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version page is outdated ,so where i download.


Thx in advance


With regards

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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 11 Jan 07, at 6:04 PM 11 Jan 07, Kenney Westerhof wrote:


I totally agree.



On that note I have put the one in that I promised for Ralph, and  
there is probably one more that I will attempt. So if anyone knows of  
a couple they are up for slot them in there.


I pushed all 2.0.x issues to a version called 2.0.x to be the pool of  
unscheduled 2.0.x fixes. So things go to the specific versions from  
there. I did the same for 2.1.x and 2.2.x.


So if you have time to fix anything in the next two weeks, say, slot  
it into 2.0.6.


I will take another pass through JIRA this weekend.

Jason.


This 'micro release' is a rather big bugfix release.

If you have lots of bugfix (micro) releases, and you stumble across
a bug, it's pretty easy to find if it's solved by looking at the  
release notes.
That is, if you update frequently. If you don't, you got lots of  
bugfix
releasenotes to check, just as people will have to when deciding to  
upgrade to 2.0.5.

So this way it's the users choice/fault/responsibility:
* update often - less work to check if a bug has been fixed
* update rarely - more entries to check, just as it is now (2.0.5:  
90 issues)


It's also easier to downgrade if you find a new showstopper, since  
you won't

loose as much improvements as you would now.

Brian E. Fox wrote:
I agree with Jason on this. My initial reaction was "Weekly No  
way I
can keep all my developers in synch." Then I realized that just  
because a build comes out doesn't mean we have

to take it. As long as the plan is clear about what is fixed then it
isn't a huge problem. I might take 2.0.5 simply because it's been so
long, but after that I would probably wait until some compelling  
reason

came along to update or after some period of time to avoid becoming
stale.
With the whole voting, vetting process, I'm not sure weekly will be
manageable, biweekly seems more realistic, but I just don't see that
more frequent releases really hurts anyone. -Original  
Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,  
January 11, 2007 1:32 PM

To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: calling vote for 2.0.5
On 11 Jan 07, at 1:16 PM 11 Jan 07, Rahul Thakur wrote:

+1  for releasing 2.0.5

+0 for micro releases. I agree with Trygve's comment  that too
frequent of these can lead to inconsistent developer environments.

Really the point is to schedule them and make the roadmaps  
available  so that people can take them if they choose. If I had a  
team I  probably wouldn't grab a micro release every week, but I  
might take  one monthly or take one that had a fix in it I needed.
I wouldn't expect people to consume them constantly, I just want  
to  make the fixes available more frequently in an official form  
so  people can use them.

Jason.

Cheers,
Rahul


- Original Message - From: "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Maven Developers List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: calling vote for 2.0.5



Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going  
to  get done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard   
machine with the same JDK. I would like to propose the  
maven.org  machine which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It  
serves as the  central repository but can easily handle a few  
builds. They can be  built from that machine and deployed to  
Apache. I think this is  far better then each of us building  
stuff from our own machines  and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as  
I  think some micro releases for improvements and smaller  
changes is  better then waiting 7 months for another release. If  
we schedule  them out them people can decide whether they want  
to upgrade or  not. But I know there are several things I would  
like to get in  and I know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in  
MNG-1577 which we  can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two.  
These are micro release.


Jason.

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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Kenney Westerhof

I totally agree.

This 'micro release' is a rather big bugfix release.

If you have lots of bugfix (micro) releases, and you stumble across
a bug, it's pretty easy to find if it's solved by looking at the release notes.
That is, if you update frequently. If you don't, you got lots of bugfix
releasenotes to check, just as people will have to when deciding to upgrade to 
2.0.5.
So this way it's the users choice/fault/responsibility:
* update often - less work to check if a bug has been fixed
* update rarely - more entries to check, just as it is now (2.0.5: 90 issues)

It's also easier to downgrade if you find a new showstopper, since you won't
loose as much improvements as you would now.

Brian E. Fox wrote:

I agree with Jason on this. My initial reaction was "Weekly No way I
can keep all my developers in synch." 


Then I realized that just because a build comes out doesn't mean we have
to take it. As long as the plan is clear about what is fixed then it
isn't a huge problem. I might take 2.0.5 simply because it's been so
long, but after that I would probably wait until some compelling reason
came along to update or after some period of time to avoid becoming
stale.

With the whole voting, vetting process, I'm not sure weekly will be
manageable, biweekly seems more realistic, but I just don't see that
more frequent releases really hurts anyone. 


-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:32 PM

To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: calling vote for 2.0.5


On 11 Jan 07, at 1:16 PM 11 Jan 07, Rahul Thakur wrote:


+1  for releasing 2.0.5

+0 for micro releases. I agree with Trygve's comment  that too
frequent of these can lead to inconsistent developer environments.



Really the point is to schedule them and make the roadmaps available  
so that people can take them if they choose. If I had a team I  
probably wouldn't grab a micro release every week, but I might take  
one monthly or take one that had a fix in it I needed.


I wouldn't expect people to consume them constantly, I just want to  
make the fixes available more frequently in an official form so  
people can use them.


Jason.


Cheers,
Rahul


- Original Message - From: "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Maven Developers List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: calling vote for 2.0.5



Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to  
get done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard  
machine with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org  
machine which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the  
central repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can be  
built from that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is  
far better then each of us building stuff from our own machines  
and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I  
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is  
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule  
them out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or  
not. But I know there are several things I would like to get in  
and I know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we  
can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.


Jason.

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Re: [vote] release maven-script-ant 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl

Scratch that, a cut/paste got away on me.

Jason.

On 11 Jan 07, at 5:21 PM 11 Jan 07, Jason van Zyl wrote:


I need to release maven-script-ant 2.0.5 before releasing maven 2.0.5

Jason.

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Robert,

Can you have a plexus component for the license header auditing then?


i think so but we may need to think about the best way to do it...

RAT's half way through a redesign ATM but i'll move that onto a branch :-/


I can hook it up to the plugin when it's ready. Only two information
are needed:

  - check result (a boolean value) and


this is conceptually difficult since the easiest and most obvious test
(checking for headers in every file) will not work correctly for many
projects at apache

would need to be pluggable so that the rules can be refined easily


  - output file where the reports can link to


the output is now a subject-predicate-object meta-data stream which is
then converted to xml. RAT application uses a stylesheet to convert
this to plain text. take your pick :-)

- robert

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[vote] release maven-script-ant 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl

I need to release maven-script-ant 2.0.5 before releasing maven 2.0.5

Jason.

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Was thinking of integrating both docck and rat plugins by calling
their execute() methods.

Docck throws a MojoFailureException when documentation tests fails and
test results could be redirected to a file through the output
parameter. So integration with this plugin is straightforward.

Although the results of rat-maven-plugin can be redirected to a file,
I don't see the same behavior when test failures are encountered. I'll
talk to Jochen if we could apply the same behavior to his plugin.


there are conceptual issues with this approach with RAT ATM

RAT was developed as a pure reporting tool requiring manual analysis
of the results. the problem is that there's a lot fuzziness both about
some of the heuristics that RAT uses and about the legitimacy of some
constructions.

people are now more interested in using RAT as a regular report but
this means more work before it'll work well.

- robert

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

Hi Robert,

Can you have a plexus component for the license header auditing then?
I can hook it up to the plugin when it's ready. Only two information
are needed:

 - check result (a boolean value) and
 - output file where the reports can link to

Thanks,
John

On 1/12/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not yet. Still looking for existing maven plugins that might be doing
> this already. Not sure if the verifier plugin could do this for us.

there's quite a few wrinkles to release auditing which aren't
immediately obvious

RAT code's rubbish (i hacked it to automate checking of incubator
releases) but i've learnt a lot about what a tool needs to be able to
do.

> I'm sure everyone would be happy to have new people to help out.

perhaps too many around here know me too well to be too excited ;-)

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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

+1

I'd rather download only what I need. I have 512Kpbs (max). Other
people here in Asia have slower connections because of the recent
earthquake--fiber optic cables were cut if you haven't heard the news
yet.

On 1/12/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 12/01/2007, at 1:14 AM, Kenney Westerhof wrote:

> I imagine most developers have at least a 2Mbit
> downlink

You have quite an imagination :)

I recently upgraded back up to a 1.5Mbit connection from 512Kbit.
It's the highest I can get in my region, and usually is significantly
more expensive. I expect there are developers in less prosperous
places that don't have even that luxury.

- Brett

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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Rahul Thakur


Jason van Zyl wrote:


On 11 Jan 07, at 1:16 PM 11 Jan 07, Rahul Thakur wrote:


+1  for releasing 2.0.5

+0 for micro releases. I agree with Trygve's comment  that too 
frequent of these can lead to inconsistent developer environments.




Really the point is to schedule them and make the roadmaps available 
so that people can take them if they choose. 


Yep, I understand the intent and that is good. A reasonable interval(?) 
for micro releases should be fine.


If I had a team I probably wouldn't grab a micro release every week, 
but I might take one monthly or take one that had a fix in it I needed.


Yes, you do have a team (teams even) ! ;-)

Rahul


I wouldn't expect people to consume them constantly, I just want to 
make the fixes available more frequently in an official form so people 
can use them.


Jason.


Cheers,
Rahul


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Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to 
get done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine 
with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine 
which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central 
repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built 
from that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better 
then each of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I 
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is 
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule 
them out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. 
But I know there are several things I would like to get in and I 
know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can 
squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.


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Re: continuum-store and JDO

2007-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Venisse

windows path length pb?

Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :

im looking into it, but i cant seen to install the modules locally -
im getting a weird random access denied error...


On 1/10/07, Emmanuel Venisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes. A global patch would be better instead of separate patches.
I tried your 2 patches and updated locally jpox-* to 1.1.3 in 
continuum parent pom. With them, all tests works fine, but continuum 
doesn't start.


Emmanuel

Marcelo Fukushima a écrit :
> Hello dear devs.
>
> After everyone's help, ive noticed that jpox was saving the
> BuildDefinition with wrong values (the buildFresh and arguments and
> possibly others too)... since i dont know how jpox work, the first
> thing i tried was to update to a more recent version of it (namely
> 1.1.3) and everything worked fine...
> im going to attach the test case to jira (actually a patch to the
> testcase to check those things too), but should i attach a patch to
> the pom too?
>
> On 1/9/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The metadata file (and enhanced classes) are generated when you use
>> Maven to build the project. As long as eclipse doesn't overwrite the
>> class files it should be fine. Alternatively, you can use the eclipse
>> plugin for jpox to make sure the classes get enhanced and just run
>> maven once to generate the metadata file. I've never used that
>> plugin, but it is available from the jpox site.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> - Brett
>>
>> On 09/01/2007, at 2:27 PM, Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
>>
>> > hello folks! i sent a couple of emails to the user list, but i 
guess i

>> > could help a little too, right? so i just checked out the code from
>> > SVN and wanted to tackle
>> > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/CONTINUUM-1103
>> > while i could isolate the bug (the property is not getting persisted
>> > on the db) but since i know almost nothing about jdo, i cant run the
>> > tests inside eclipse to try to figure out the solution and i couldnt
>> > find where the metadata file or the enhanced version of the classes
>> > are found...
>> > is there any doc that can help me with that kinda of info? thanks
>> > in advance
>> > --
>> > []'s
>> > Marcelo Takeshi Fukushima
>>
>
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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Brett Porter

[X] 0 - Don't care.

This is one case where I'd like to be able to alias a goal to a new  
plugin, or dual-alias the goal prefix. I agree the webapp belongs in  
a different plugin, and probably should have started it that way, but  
I really prefer to use "site:run".


If it does get moved, and we can't do such aliasing, then I'd like  
site:run to be replaced with a call to invoke "mvn site-runner:run"  
or whatever it is, with a big deprecation message.


I think I like Kenney's suggestion with an alternate name: turn the  
webapp bit into "site:war" (which requires no dependencies), and then  
use the jetty plugin to run it.


- Brett

On 11/01/2007, at 3:49 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin in  
another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your site  
you don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It really is  
something unexpected and isn't something most would associate with  
just generating a site. The functionality is cool, I just think it  
belong in another plugin.


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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Not yet. Still looking for existing maven plugins that might be doing
this already. Not sure if the verifier plugin could do this for us.


there's quite a few wrinkles to release auditing which aren't
immediately obvious

RAT code's rubbish (i hacked it to automate checking of incubator
releases) but i've learnt a lot about what a tool needs to be able to
do.


I'm sure everyone would be happy to have new people to help out.


perhaps too many around here know me too well to be too excited ;-)

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

It appears he'll stick with mojo. But couldn't speak for him. I'll
update everyone when I get a patch and have him take a look at it.

On 1/12/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/11/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 11 Jan 07, at 3:42 PM 11 Jan 07, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
> > On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >
> > hi john
> >
> >> You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
> >
> > have you implemented your header checked yet?
> >
> > i'm interested in collaborating on release auditing (in particular
> > for apache)
> >
>
> Joakim has scanning tools, and Jochen actually made a RAT plugin over
> at Mojo. I would make a plexus component of it I it were to be
> integrated.

jochen's looking for a new home for that plugin ATM

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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Brett Porter


On 12/01/2007, at 1:14 AM, Kenney Westerhof wrote:


I imagine most developers have at least a 2Mbit
downlink


You have quite an imagination :)

I recently upgraded back up to a 1.5Mbit connection from 512Kbit.  
It's the highest I can get in my region, and usually is significantly  
more expensive. I expect there are developers in less prosperous  
places that don't have even that luxury.


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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 1/11/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 11 Jan 07, at 3:42 PM 11 Jan 07, robert burrell donkin wrote:

> On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>
> hi john
>
>> You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
>
> have you implemented your header checked yet?
>
> i'm interested in collaborating on release auditing (in particular
> for apache)
>

Joakim has scanning tools, and Jochen actually made a RAT plugin over
at Mojo. I would make a plexus component of it I it were to be
integrated.


jochen's looking for a new home for that plugin ATM

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

Was thinking of integrating both docck and rat plugins by calling
their execute() methods.

Docck throws a MojoFailureException when documentation tests fails and
test results could be redirected to a file through the output
parameter. So integration with this plugin is straightforward.

Although the results of rat-maven-plugin can be redirected to a file,
I don't see the same behavior when test failures are encountered. I'll
talk to Jochen if we could apply the same behavior to his plugin.

On 1/12/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 11 Jan 07, at 3:42 PM 11 Jan 07, robert burrell donkin wrote:

> On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>
> hi john
>
>> You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
>
> have you implemented your header checked yet?
>
> i'm interested in collaborating on release auditing (in particular
> for apache)
>

Joakim has scanning tools, and Jochen actually made a RAT plugin over
at Mojo. I would make a plexus component of it I it were to be
integrated.

Jason.

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Re: [vote] release maven-ear-plugin 2.3.1

2007-01-11 Thread Jesse McConnell

+1

On 1/11/07, Fabrizio Giustina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

+1
fabrizio

On 1/8/07, Stephane Nicoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to release the ear plugin which contains a backward
> compatibility issue in 2.3 [1]. The issue has been fixed and the
> reporter has validated his builds successfully.
>
> Revision 492264
>
> Snapshot available
> 
http://people.apache.org/~snicoll/maven-stage-repo/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-ear-plugin/2.3.1-SNAPSHOT/
>
> Votes open for 72h.
>
> My +1,
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> [1] http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEAR-53
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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 11 Jan 07, at 3:42 PM 11 Jan 07, robert burrell donkin wrote:


On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Everyone,


hi john


You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.


have you implemented your header checked yet?

i'm interested in collaborating on release auditing (in particular  
for apache)




Joakim has scanning tools, and Jochen actually made a RAT plugin over  
at Mojo. I would make a plexus component of it I it were to be  
integrated.


Jason.


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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

Not yet. Still looking for existing maven plugins that might be doing
this already. Not sure if the verifier plugin could do this for us.

I'm sure everyone would be happy to have new people to help out.

On 1/12/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,

hi john

> You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.

have you implemented your header checked yet?

i'm interested in collaborating on release auditing (in particular for apache)

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread robert burrell donkin

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Everyone,


hi john


You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.


have you implemented your header checked yet?

i'm interested in collaborating on release auditing (in particular for apache)

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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

By the way, for this example, the changes I made to
maven-source-plugin's POM to generate the report is:


  [...]
 
   
 
   maven-swizzle-plugin
   
 MPSOURCE
 RELEASE
 ${basedir}/src/site/xdoc/release-report.xml
 495351
 true
 docck-successful.txt
 false
 
license-failed.txt
   
 
   
 
 
scm:svn:http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/trunk/maven-source-plugin
 
 
http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-source-plugin/2.0.2-SNAPSHOT/
   
 http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-source-plugin/
   
 


On 1/12/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Here's the example report:

http://people.apache.org/~jtolentino/staging_site/maven-swizzle-plugin/release-report.html

On 1/12/07, Mike Perham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John, can you give us a sample of what the final report looks like?
>
> On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
> > Here's the related documentation:
> >
> > 
http://people.apache.org/~jtolentino/staging_site/maven-swizzle-plugin/examples/generating-release-report.html
> >
> > This is an implementation on what's discussed in this thread:
> >
> > 
http://www.nabble.com/Feedback-Needed-on-Release-Reporting-Tool-tf2843851s177.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

Here's the example report:

http://people.apache.org/~jtolentino/staging_site/maven-swizzle-plugin/release-report.html

On 1/12/07, Mike Perham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

John, can you give us a sample of what the final report looks like?

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
> Here's the related documentation:
>
> 
http://people.apache.org/~jtolentino/staging_site/maven-swizzle-plugin/examples/generating-release-report.html
>
> This is an implementation on what's discussed in this thread:
>
> 
http://www.nabble.com/Feedback-Needed-on-Release-Reporting-Tool-tf2843851s177.html
>
> Thanks,
> John
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Re: Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread Mike Perham

John, can you give us a sample of what the final report looks like?

On 1/11/07, John Tolentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
Here's the related documentation:

http://people.apache.org/~jtolentino/staging_site/maven-swizzle-plugin/examples/generating-release-report.html

This is an implementation on what's discussed in this thread:

http://www.nabble.com/Feedback-Needed-on-Release-Reporting-Tool-tf2843851s177.html

Thanks,
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Re: Using the -J option with javac

2007-01-11 Thread Carlos Sanchez

i think I got it, i'll use Xmx and Xms only when forking

On 1/11/07, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

MCOMPILER-22 has a problem as the javac compiler is being called with
-J for Xmx and Xms and from the docs [1] it's not accepted in argument
files.

We're gonna use always argument files when forking, can the -J option
be removed ?

[1] http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/windows/javac.html

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Release Reports

2007-01-11 Thread John Tolentino

Hi Everyone,

You can now generate release reports using the maven-swizzle-plugin.
Here's the related documentation:

http://people.apache.org/~jtolentino/staging_site/maven-swizzle-plugin/examples/generating-release-report.html

This is an implementation on what's discussed in this thread:

http://www.nabble.com/Feedback-Needed-on-Release-Reporting-Tool-tf2843851s177.html

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Using the -J option with javac

2007-01-11 Thread Carlos Sanchez

MCOMPILER-22 has a problem as the javac compiler is being called with
-J for Xmx and Xms and from the docs [1] it's not accepted in argument
files.

We're gonna use always argument files when forking, can the -J option
be removed ?

[1] http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/windows/javac.html

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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Brian Topping
Regardless of these process issues, I should add that I'm all for  
getting a release out.  Congrats to the team on feeling things are  
stable enough to go out and thanks for all the hard work put into  
other areas of the project.


Brian

On Jan 11, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Brian Topping wrote:

I'm in a similar situation with patches I've provided.  Some have  
integration tests as well, as requested.  No comments have been  
made on any of the patches, they are months old.


They might not seem important, but we had to throw away our entire  
Maven investment at a company I am at, after months of work to get  
it integrated and create these patches when problems developed.  A  
primary reason for it's demise was people didn't like using forked  
builds of Maven just so they could get their daily work done.


[-1].  The process should be updated so patches are either rejected  
with corrective measures or given a "fix version" where they will  
be applied.


Brian

On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:04 AM, Franz Fehringer wrote:


Hello,

WAGONHTTP-6 and MNG-2066 are already resolved; the fixes only need  
to be incorporated in the 2.0.5 (or 2.0.6) release.

MNG-2305 should then also be resolved.

Greetings

Franz


Tom Huybrechts schrieb:
Can't you "solve" this with -Dhttps.proxyHost=xxx - 
Dhttps.proxyPort=... ?


On 1/11/07, Franz Fehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Will this release contain solutions to

MNG-2305
MNG-2066
WAGONHTTP-6

?

These issues mean, that it is impossible to access HTTPS (SSL)
repositories from behind proxies/firewalls (i.e. from corporate  
networks).


Thanks and greetings

Franz


Jason van Zyl schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going  
to get

> done are done. We'll release and move on.
>
> I would like to start building all releases from a standard  
machine
> with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org  
machine which
> is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central  
repository

> but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that
> machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better  
then each

> of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.
>
> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
>
> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions  
as I

> think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is
> better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we  
schedule them
> out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or  
not. But I
> know there are several things I would like to get in and I  
know that
> Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze  
into a

> 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
>
> Jason.
>
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RE: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Brian E. Fox
I agree with Jason on this. My initial reaction was "Weekly No way I
can keep all my developers in synch." 

Then I realized that just because a build comes out doesn't mean we have
to take it. As long as the plan is clear about what is fixed then it
isn't a huge problem. I might take 2.0.5 simply because it's been so
long, but after that I would probably wait until some compelling reason
came along to update or after some period of time to avoid becoming
stale.

With the whole voting, vetting process, I'm not sure weekly will be
manageable, biweekly seems more realistic, but I just don't see that
more frequent releases really hurts anyone. 

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On 11 Jan 07, at 1:16 PM 11 Jan 07, Rahul Thakur wrote:

> +1  for releasing 2.0.5
>
> +0 for micro releases. I agree with Trygve's comment  that too
> frequent of these can lead to inconsistent developer environments.
>

Really the point is to schedule them and make the roadmaps available  
so that people can take them if they choose. If I had a team I  
probably wouldn't grab a micro release every week, but I might take  
one monthly or take one that had a fix in it I needed.

I wouldn't expect people to consume them constantly, I just want to  
make the fixes available more frequently in an official form so  
people can use them.

Jason.

> Cheers,
> Rahul
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Maven Developers List" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:20 AM
> Subject: calling vote for 2.0.5
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to  
>> get done are done. We'll release and move on.
>>
>> I would like to start building all releases from a standard  
>> machine with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org  
>> machine which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the  
>> central repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can be  
>> built from that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is  
>> far better then each of us building stuff from our own machines  
>> and deploying.
>>
>> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
>>
>> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I  
>> think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is  
>> better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule  
>> them out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or  
>> not. But I know there are several things I would like to get in  
>> and I know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we  
>> can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 11 Jan 07, at 1:16 PM 11 Jan 07, Rahul Thakur wrote:


+1  for releasing 2.0.5

+0 for micro releases. I agree with Trygve's comment  that too  
frequent of these can lead to inconsistent developer environments.




Really the point is to schedule them and make the roadmaps available  
so that people can take them if they choose. If I had a team I  
probably wouldn't grab a micro release every week, but I might take  
one monthly or take one that had a fix in it I needed.


I wouldn't expect people to consume them constantly, I just want to  
make the fixes available more frequently in an official form so  
people can use them.


Jason.


Cheers,
Rahul


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Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to  
get done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard  
machine with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org  
machine which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the  
central repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can be  
built from that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is  
far better then each of us building stuff from our own machines  
and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I  
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is  
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule  
them out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or  
not. But I know there are several things I would like to get in  
and I know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we  
can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.


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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Rahul Thakur

+1  for releasing 2.0.5

+0 for micro releases. I agree with Trygve's comment  that too frequent 
of these can lead to inconsistent developer environments.


Cheers,
Rahul


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Subject: calling vote for 2.0.5



Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get 
done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine 
with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine 
which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central 
repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from 
that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then 
each of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I 
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is 
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them 
out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I 
know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that 
Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 
2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.


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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread John Casey

+1 from me. For practical purposes, we can control a single environment much
more easily (eg. removing the local repository before we build a release, or
making sure it's built on JDK 1.4) than N developer boxes. Even if the
builds are 100% reproducible, it's not a bad idea to have a clean
environment for staging releases, so development
artifacts/code/environment/etc. don't get in the way.

-j

On 1/10/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get
done are done. We'll release and move on.

I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine
with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine
which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central
repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from
that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then
each of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.

Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them
out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I
know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that
Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a
2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.

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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Brian Topping
I'm in a similar situation with patches I've provided.  Some have  
integration tests as well, as requested.  No comments have been made  
on any of the patches, they are months old.


They might not seem important, but we had to throw away our entire  
Maven investment at a company I am at, after months of work to get it  
integrated and create these patches when problems developed.  A  
primary reason for it's demise was people didn't like using forked  
builds of Maven just so they could get their daily work done.


[-1].  The process should be updated so patches are either rejected  
with corrective measures or given a "fix version" where they will be  
applied.


Brian

On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:04 AM, Franz Fehringer wrote:


Hello,

WAGONHTTP-6 and MNG-2066 are already resolved; the fixes only need  
to be incorporated in the 2.0.5 (or 2.0.6) release.

MNG-2305 should then also be resolved.

Greetings

Franz


Tom Huybrechts schrieb:
Can't you "solve" this with -Dhttps.proxyHost=xxx - 
Dhttps.proxyPort=... ?


On 1/11/07, Franz Fehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Will this release contain solutions to

MNG-2305
MNG-2066
WAGONHTTP-6

?

These issues mean, that it is impossible to access HTTPS (SSL)
repositories from behind proxies/firewalls (i.e. from corporate  
networks).


Thanks and greetings

Franz


Jason van Zyl schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going  
to get

> done are done. We'll release and move on.
>
> I would like to start building all releases from a standard  
machine
> with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org  
machine which
> is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central  
repository

> but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that
> machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then  
each

> of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.
>
> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
>
> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I
> think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is
> better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we  
schedule them
> out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not.  
But I
> know there are several things I would like to get in and I know  
that
> Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze  
into a

> 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
>
> Jason.
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Re: [vote] Collapse Maven permission groups

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 8 Jan 07, at 7:04 PM 8 Jan 07, Jason van Zyl wrote:


-1



I change mine to:

[X ] +1 for the partial proposal - retain subproject access restrictions

I just want at the sub-project level.



On 8 Jan 07, at 6:50 PM 8 Jan 07, Brett Porter wrote:


Hi,

Since there was no objection to calling a vote, as discussed in  
the proposal, I'd like to call a vote on this.


To see the proposal and discussion: http://mail- 
archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-dev/200612.mbox/% 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Vote to operate as
- requiring 2/3rds of the PMC to vote (13), with a majority within  
those votes for it to pass (ie, add them all and if the result is  
> 0). Other votes would be welcome with reasons as advisory, but  
not binding.

- Votes can be changed at any time before result is posted.
- Vote is open for at least 72 hours, completing once enough have  
voted after that.
- There are two different +1 options. If there is a majority for  
"collapse all groups" against both other options, then it will  
pass. If it fails, then all votes will be transferred to the  
"retain subproject access restrictions" and recounted.


The proposal is to collapse all access groups into a single ACL  
for Maven, with the following list of 37 committers: Fabrice  
Bellingard, David Blevins, John Casey, Maria Ching, Joakim  
Erdfelt, Dan Fabulich (pending), Brian Fox, Fabrizio Giustina,  
Arnaud Heritier, Jeff Jensen, Shinobu Kawai, Milos Kleint, Trygve  
Laugstol, Felipe Leme, Dennis Lundberg, Vincent Massol, Jesse  
McConnell, Stephane Nicoll, Mike Perham, Brett Porter, Edwin  
Punzalan, Daniel Rall, Allan Ramirez, Carlos Sanchez, Vincent  
Siveton, Wendy Smoak, Torbjorn Smorgrav, James Strachan, Chris  
Stevenson, Rahul Thakur, Lukas Theussl, John Tolentino, Dan Tran,  
Emmanuel Venisse, Kenney Westerhof, Andrew Williams, Henri  
Yandell, and Jason van Zyl.


The alternate proposal is to retain subproject access  
restrictions, so the groups will be (PMC members removed, as they  
retain access to all areas):
maven=wsmoak,felipeal,jjensen,shinobu,dlr,mkleint,handyande,epunzalan 
,aramirez,dantran,chrisjs,brianf,bellingard,oching (/maven-1,/ 
components,/plugins,/archetype,/core-integration-testing,/jxr,/ 
release,/skins,/resources,/release-testing)

doxia=dblevins
archiva=bayard,epunzalan,oching
continuum=dblevins,rinku
scm=dantran,smorgrav
wagon=
surefire=

All of the above groups will have access to: /pom, /project, / 
site, /shared in this proposal, so it is essentially to collapse  
the @maven group, making the permission groups match the existence  
of a corresponding dev lists.


[ ] +1 for the full proposal - collapse all groups (implies a vote  
for the next option if vote doesn't pass)

[ ] 0 abstain from vote
[ ] -1 do not alter the current permissions

Cheers,
Brett

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Re: [vote] Collapse Maven permission groups

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Williams
-0 it might be nice to have access to everything once you join, but  
it seems handy to have an acl of all those writing to the various areas.


On 8 Jan 2007, at 23:50, Brett Porter wrote:


Hi,

Since there was no objection to calling a vote, as discussed in the  
proposal, I'd like to call a vote on this.


To see the proposal and discussion: http://mail-archives.apache.org/ 
mod_mbox/maven-dev/200612.mbox/%3c67FC84B5-4510-469B-AEC1- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Vote to operate as
- requiring 2/3rds of the PMC to vote (13), with a majority within  
those votes for it to pass (ie, add them all and if the result is >  
0). Other votes would be welcome with reasons as advisory, but not  
binding.

- Votes can be changed at any time before result is posted.
- Vote is open for at least 72 hours, completing once enough have  
voted after that.
- There are two different +1 options. If there is a majority for  
"collapse all groups" against both other options, then it will  
pass. If it fails, then all votes will be transferred to the  
"retain subproject access restrictions" and recounted.


The proposal is to collapse all access groups into a single ACL for  
Maven, with the following list of 37 committers: Fabrice  
Bellingard, David Blevins, John Casey, Maria Ching, Joakim Erdfelt,  
Dan Fabulich (pending), Brian Fox, Fabrizio Giustina, Arnaud  
Heritier, Jeff Jensen, Shinobu Kawai, Milos Kleint, Trygve  
Laugstol, Felipe Leme, Dennis Lundberg, Vincent Massol, Jesse  
McConnell, Stephane Nicoll, Mike Perham, Brett Porter, Edwin  
Punzalan, Daniel Rall, Allan Ramirez, Carlos Sanchez, Vincent  
Siveton, Wendy Smoak, Torbjorn Smorgrav, James Strachan, Chris  
Stevenson, Rahul Thakur, Lukas Theussl, John Tolentino, Dan Tran,  
Emmanuel Venisse, Kenney Westerhof, Andrew Williams, Henri Yandell,  
and Jason van Zyl.


The alternate proposal is to retain subproject access restrictions,  
so the groups will be (PMC members removed, as they retain access  
to all areas):
maven=wsmoak,felipeal,jjensen,shinobu,dlr,mkleint,handyande,epunzalan, 
aramirez,dantran,chrisjs,brianf,bellingard,oching (/maven-1,/ 
components,/plugins,/archetype,/core-integration-testing,/jxr,/ 
release,/skins,/resources,/release-testing)

doxia=dblevins
archiva=bayard,epunzalan,oching
continuum=dblevins,rinku
scm=dantran,smorgrav
wagon=
surefire=

All of the above groups will have access to: /pom, /project, / 
site, /shared in this proposal, so it is essentially to collapse  
the @maven group, making the permission groups match the existence  
of a corresponding dev lists.


[ ] +1 for the full proposal - collapse all groups (implies a vote  
for the next option if vote doesn't pass)
[ ] +1 for the partial proposal - retain subproject access  
restrictions

[ ] 0 abstain from vote
[ ] -1 do not alter the current permissions

Cheers,
Brett

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Re: svn commit: r485976 - /maven/plugins/trunk/pom.xml

2007-01-11 Thread Mykel Alvis

I have a parent pom that defines the SCM of itself and all it's children by
using
scm:svn:http://${scm.host}/svnrepos/${object.namespace}/${artifactId}/trunk

and I end up with
scm:svn:http://${scm.host}/svnrepos/${object.namespace
}/${artifactId}/trunk/${artifactId}


I'm not sure if this is still going on with more recent updates, but
currently when I do a help:effective-pom, the SCM URL has the artifactId
appended.

Clearly this is sub-optimal.  Maven shouldn't invisibly append things to my
configuration (assuming it actually IS doing this, of course).

Can someone tell me where this happens and how to prevent it?



> The way we deploy plugin sites today does not include the version
> number in the path. If this is going to change I'd like to see a
> vote about it on the dev list first. The url should be:
>
> scp://people.apache.org/www/maven.apache.org/plugins/$
> {pom.artifactId}/

Actually, it should be what it originally was. Neither of these will
work due to the automatic appending of the artifact ID.

Joakim - please roll back.

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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Williams

+1

On 11 Jan 2007, at 04:49, Jason van Zyl wrote:

Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin in  
another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your site  
you don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It really is  
something unexpected and isn't something most would associate with  
just generating a site. The functionality is cool, I just think it  
belong in another plugin.


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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Williams

+1

Andy

On 10 Jan 2007, at 22:20, Jason van Zyl wrote:


Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to  
get done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine  
with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine  
which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central  
repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built  
from that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far  
better then each of us building stuff from our own machines and  
deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I  
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is  
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule  
them out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or  
not. But I know there are several things I would like to get in and  
I know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can  
squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.


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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Garvin LeClaire

+1


--
Regards,


Garvin LeClaire
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On 1/11/07, Tom Huybrechts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Can't you "solve" this with -Dhttps.proxyHost=xxx -Dhttps.proxyPort=... ?

On 1/11/07, Franz Fehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will this release contain solutions to
>
> MNG-2305
> MNG-2066
> WAGONHTTP-6
>
> ?
>
> These issues mean, that it is impossible to access HTTPS (SSL)
> repositories from behind proxies/firewalls (i.e. from corporate
networks).
>
> Thanks and greetings
>
> Franz
>
>
> Jason van Zyl schrieb:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get
> > done are done. We'll release and move on.
> >
> > I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine
> > with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which
> > is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository
> > but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that
> > machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each
> > of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.
> >
> > Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
> >
> > I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I
> > think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is
> > better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them
> > out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I
> > know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that
> > Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a
> > 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
> >
> > Jason.
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RE: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Rollo, Dan
+1

Dan 

-Original Message-
From: Emmanuel Venisse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:24 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

Agree to the plan.

Emmanuel

Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get 
> done are done. We'll release and move on.
> 
> I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine 
> with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which 
> is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository 
> but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that 
> machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each 
> of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.
> 
> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
> 
> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I 
> think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is 
> better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them 
> out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I 
> know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that 
> Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 
> 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
> 
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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Mark Hobson

On 11/01/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, following that logic why don't we just stick all the plugins in
one in one plugin and not bother trying to separate concerns at all.
Then we'll only have one plugin and when people run "mvn clean" they
will just get everything they need?


uberplugin.. sounds like a good candidate for mojo.codehaus :)


I have watched bewildered users run "mvn site" and ask why all of
god's green earth is being downloaded and it makes Maven unpleasant
to use.


Can't see it being much of a barrier for entry - I would have thought
most Maven users would be used to seeing many seemingly random
libraries being downloaded the first time they execute a new goal.

The site:site and site:run goals are closely related and I would
expect them to be provided by the same plugin.  Maybe per-goal
dependencies would be the way to go.

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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 11 Jan 07, at 9:20 AM 11 Jan 07, Mark Hobson wrote:


Besides, all good developers have jetty
in their local repo already ;)


Yes, following that logic why don't we just stick all the plugins in  
one in one plugin and not bother trying to separate concerns at all.  
Then we'll only have one plugin and when people run "mvn clean" they  
will just get everything they need?


I have watched bewildered users run "mvn site" and ask why all of  
god's green earth is being downloaded and it makes Maven unpleasant  
to use.


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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 11 Jan 07, at 9:14 AM 11 Jan 07, Kenney Westerhof wrote:


-0

More plugins are bad IMHO.


I don't think so especially when it encourages a separation of  
concerns. Publishing a site should not require a servlet container.



We could either remove that functionality
and just let people site:state jetty:run '-Dwar=${site.directory}'
or, in the future, make those deps scoped optional and specify
which ones are used for what mojo so that when you run that mojo
they won't be optional anymore.

jetty:   452kb
servlet-api: 139kb
jetty-util:   66kb


It's way more then that. It triggers pulling down the dependency  
plugin, the ant run plugin. All its dependencies. From a clean  
repository I've seen it take quite some time to pull everything down.


Jason.


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doxia-site-renderer:32kb
doxia-core:208kb
oro:65kb
plexus-velocity: 8kb
velocity:  388kb
velocity-dep:  694kb
doxia-decoration-model: 41kb
--
1.4 MB

so removing jetty will only remove 30% from the deps needed  
specifically

for the site plugin. I imagine most developers have at least a 2Mbit
downlink, so this would reduce their build time 3 seconds, only once
(for me and all people with an intranet proxy it would decrease the  
build time by about 60 milliseconds).

I think this is nothing compared to the size of all of maven's plugins
and dependencies (50+ MB or so?).

In short: why bother? :)

-- Kenney

Emmanuel Venisse wrote:

+1
Emmanuel
Jason van Zyl a écrit :
Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin  
in another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your  
site you don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It  
really is something unexpected and isn't something most would  
associate with just generating a site. The functionality is cool,  
I just think it belong in another plugin.


Jason.

 
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RE: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jeff Jensen
Good Idea (tm) Jason.  I'm glad you are making a "production release
environment".


-Original Message-
From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:42 AM
To: Maven Developers List
Subject: Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

On 11 Jan 07, at 8:56 AM 11 Jan 07, Kenney Westerhof wrote:

> I really don't care what machine builds the release.
> Maven is supposed to be able to make reproducible builds so it  
> shouldn't
> matter where you build from.
>

You know as well as I do that isn't the case quite yet. The reduction  
of any variation is necessary.

> The only problem will be the contents of the local repository  
> (snapshots),
> which will be a problem on any machine.
>

No. What JVM is that is used, what version of Maven you used to build  
it as well, how you bootstrapped. All these things need to be defined  
so that things can be as consistent as possible.

> I suppose you're going to do an 2.0.5-rc-1 with mvn  
> release:prepare, which
> should make sure only non-snapshot project artifacts are used
> (but not plugins). The only way to be sure no snapshot plugins are  
> used
> is to disable the snapshot repo from the parent/root pom..

I'm going to use the staging tools and put the release as it will be  
in final form into a repository which won't pollute the central  
repository. If it's fine then I will merge it with the central  
repository.

>
> Maybe I'm missing the point - what's far better about performing  
> releases
> on a 27/4 monitored box running Linux that also hosts the central  
> repo?
>

Do you want to release from a Windows machine? I don't. And if many  
people take responsibility for doing releases, which should happen,  
then it should happen with the same set of parameters off the same  
machine. If something goes wrong with that machine we get a 5 minute  
turn around time for help which is a good thing. No one in an  
enterprise environment lets joe developer build a release for  
production (unless they are insane) and we shouldn't either. The  
releases should come from an environment that is as stable as possible.

Jason.

> -- Kenney
>
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> I  haven't called the vote yet, just wanted to settle on picking a  
>> machine to dispatch it from.
>> It's coming, it's coming :-)
>> jason.
>> On 10 Jan 07, at 5:20 PM 10 Jan 07, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to  
>>> get done are done. We'll release and move on.
>>>
>>> I would like to start building all releases from a standard  
>>> machine with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org  
>>> machine which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the  
>>> central repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can  
>>> be built from that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this  
>>> is far better then each of us building stuff from our own  
>>> machines and deploying.
>>>
>>> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
>>>
>>> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as  
>>> I think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes  
>>> is better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we  
>>> schedule them out them people can decide whether they want to  
>>> upgrade or not. But I know there are several things I would like  
>>> to get in and I know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in  
>>> MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two.  
>>> These are micro release.
>>>
>>> Jason.
>>>
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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl

On 11 Jan 07, at 8:56 AM 11 Jan 07, Kenney Westerhof wrote:


I really don't care what machine builds the release.
Maven is supposed to be able to make reproducible builds so it  
shouldn't

matter where you build from.



You know as well as I do that isn't the case quite yet. The reduction  
of any variation is necessary.


The only problem will be the contents of the local repository  
(snapshots),

which will be a problem on any machine.



No. What JVM is that is used, what version of Maven you used to build  
it as well, how you bootstrapped. All these things need to be defined  
so that things can be as consistent as possible.


I suppose you're going to do an 2.0.5-rc-1 with mvn  
release:prepare, which

should make sure only non-snapshot project artifacts are used
(but not plugins). The only way to be sure no snapshot plugins are  
used

is to disable the snapshot repo from the parent/root pom..


I'm going to use the staging tools and put the release as it will be  
in final form into a repository which won't pollute the central  
repository. If it's fine then I will merge it with the central  
repository.




Maybe I'm missing the point - what's far better about performing  
releases
on a 27/4 monitored box running Linux that also hosts the central  
repo?




Do you want to release from a Windows machine? I don't. And if many  
people take responsibility for doing releases, which should happen,  
then it should happen with the same set of parameters off the same  
machine. If something goes wrong with that machine we get a 5 minute  
turn around time for help which is a good thing. No one in an  
enterprise environment lets joe developer build a release for  
production (unless they are insane) and we shouldn't either. The  
releases should come from an environment that is as stable as possible.


Jason.


-- Kenney

Jason van Zyl wrote:
I  haven't called the vote yet, just wanted to settle on picking a  
machine to dispatch it from.

It's coming, it's coming :-)
jason.
On 10 Jan 07, at 5:20 PM 10 Jan 07, Jason van Zyl wrote:

Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to  
get done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard  
machine with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org  
machine which is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the  
central repository but can easily handle a few builds. They can  
be built from that machine and deployed to Apache. I think this  
is far better then each of us building stuff from our own  
machines and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as  
I think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes  
is better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we  
schedule them out them people can decide whether they want to  
upgrade or not. But I know there are several things I would like  
to get in and I know that Mike/Ralph would like to get in  
MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a week or two.  
These are micro release.


Jason.

 
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Re: Jboss client jars and maven

2007-01-11 Thread Kenney Westerhof

Hi,

this is actually a user question and should be asked on the user list.
There are also more people out there that use JBoss and maven so you
may have better luck there.

In the mean time I suggest you try to find out what it is that's
breaking it. 
Take the maven2 built jar, unjar it, and try each step in turn to see

if that solves it:
- jar it up with the commandline 'jar' or ant; maybe the compression is unknown?
- remove META-INF/maven/
- remove META-INF/MANIFEST.MF's Build-JDK entry
- remove/change other manifest entries
- remove META-INF/
- do a diff on the classes (perhaps using javap's output) - are the class 
versions
 different? Is the same jdk used for both maven and ant?
- (is the content other than META-INF exactly the same? no missing classes?)

-- Kenney

Graham Leggett wrote:

Hi all,

I am have a very strange interoperability problem between jars produced by
maven and jars produced by ant when it comes to JBoss.

JBoss supports the concept of java code running standalone accessing EJBs
in a JBoss container over a network. To do this you package up two files
into the META-INF directory of a jar file - application-client.xml and
jboss-client.xml - and deploy this client jar within your ear file to your
JBoss server.

We have an existing ant generated client jar that works fine in the ear
file. When we swap it with the same jar built by maven, Jboss refuses to
load the EJBs from the ear file, and behaves in a generally broken way,
but not enough to give us a real error message. Swap the ant created jar
back, and all returns back to normal. All other jars, from dependencies to
the ejb and ear file, are built using maven, and these work fine on
condition the ant built client jar is included.

The differences between the ant jar and the maven jar come down to the
entries inside MANIFEST.MF. The ant build has Ant-Version and Created-By,
while the maven version has Archiver-Version, Created-By, Built-By and
Build-JDK. The maven jar also has a "maven" directory containing the pom
file.

I don't yet know enough about all of this to reliably ascertain whether
this is a JBoss problem or a maven problem, my question is - has anyone
seen behaviour like this before?

Could the different attributes inside the MANIFEST.FM file affect things?
Could the presence of the "maven" directory and the copy of the pom file
in the jar upset JBoss in any way?

Regards,
Graham
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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Mark Hobson

On 11/01/07, Kenney Westerhof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In short: why bother? :)


I tend to agree with Kenney.  Besides, all good developers have jetty
in their local repo already ;)

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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Kenney Westerhof

-0

More plugins are bad IMHO. We could either remove that functionality
and just let people site:state jetty:run '-Dwar=${site.directory}'
or, in the future, make those deps scoped optional and specify
which ones are used for what mojo so that when you run that mojo
they won't be optional anymore.

jetty:   452kb
servlet-api: 139kb
jetty-util:   66kb
-
 0.6 MB

doxia-site-renderer:32kb
doxia-core:208kb
oro:65kb
plexus-velocity: 8kb
velocity:  388kb
velocity-dep:  694kb
doxia-decoration-model: 41kb
--
1.4 MB

so removing jetty will only remove 30% from the deps needed specifically
for the site plugin. I imagine most developers have at least a 2Mbit
downlink, so this would reduce their build time 3 seconds, only once
(for me and all people with an intranet proxy it would decrease the build 
time by about 60 milliseconds).

I think this is nothing compared to the size of all of maven's plugins
and dependencies (50+ MB or so?).

In short: why bother? :)

-- Kenney

Emmanuel Venisse wrote:

+1

Emmanuel

Jason van Zyl a écrit :
Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin in 
another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your site you 
don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It really is something 
unexpected and isn't something most would associate with just 
generating a site. The functionality is cool, I just think it belong 
in another plugin.


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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Kenney Westerhof

I really don't care what machine builds the release.
Maven is supposed to be able to make reproducible builds so it shouldn't
matter where you build from.

The only problem will be the contents of the local repository (snapshots),
which will be a problem on any machine.

I suppose you're going to do an 2.0.5-rc-1 with mvn release:prepare, which
should make sure only non-snapshot project artifacts are used
(but not plugins). The only way to be sure no snapshot plugins are used
is to disable the snapshot repo from the parent/root pom..

Maybe I'm missing the point - what's far better about performing releases
on a 27/4 monitored box running Linux that also hosts the central repo?

-- Kenney

Jason van Zyl wrote:
I  haven't called the vote yet, just wanted to settle on picking a 
machine to dispatch it from.


It's coming, it's coming :-)

jason.

On 10 Jan 07, at 5:20 PM 10 Jan 07, Jason van Zyl wrote:


Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get 
done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine 
with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which 
is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository 
but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that 
machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each 
of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I 
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is 
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them 
out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I 
know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that 
Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 
2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.


Jason.

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Re: maven-war-plugin v2.0.2 in jira

2007-01-11 Thread Jason van Zyl


On 11 Jan 07, at 3:21 AM 11 Jan 07, Tomasz Pik wrote:


Hi,

It looks that version 2.0.2 of maven-war-plugin is not marked as  
relesed

in jira so changes are not visible in changelog - they are in roadmap.
Can somebody take care about this?



Done.


Thanks,
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Jboss client jars and maven

2007-01-11 Thread Graham Leggett
Hi all,

I am have a very strange interoperability problem between jars produced by
maven and jars produced by ant when it comes to JBoss.

JBoss supports the concept of java code running standalone accessing EJBs
in a JBoss container over a network. To do this you package up two files
into the META-INF directory of a jar file - application-client.xml and
jboss-client.xml - and deploy this client jar within your ear file to your
JBoss server.

We have an existing ant generated client jar that works fine in the ear
file. When we swap it with the same jar built by maven, Jboss refuses to
load the EJBs from the ear file, and behaves in a generally broken way,
but not enough to give us a real error message. Swap the ant created jar
back, and all returns back to normal. All other jars, from dependencies to
the ejb and ear file, are built using maven, and these work fine on
condition the ant built client jar is included.

The differences between the ant jar and the maven jar come down to the
entries inside MANIFEST.MF. The ant build has Ant-Version and Created-By,
while the maven version has Archiver-Version, Created-By, Built-By and
Build-JDK. The maven jar also has a "maven" directory containing the pom
file.

I don't yet know enough about all of this to reliably ascertain whether
this is a JBoss problem or a maven problem, my question is - has anyone
seen behaviour like this before?

Could the different attributes inside the MANIFEST.FM file affect things?
Could the presence of the "maven" directory and the copy of the pom file
in the jar upset JBoss in any way?

Regards,
Graham
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Re: Trusting in our own dog food

2007-01-11 Thread Federico Yankelevich

I read on svn changelog that SVN v1.4 increased a lot the speed for comparing
local copy with repository.
Maybe continuum is very slow in SVN update because it is using SVN 1.3 (both
client and server needs to be updated)

see http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.4_releasenotes.html

just my 2 cents,
Federico



brettporter wrote:
> 
> Yes, I have a script to automate installing the latest build (though  
> would need changes if continuum_ci was turned off).
> 
> 1.1 is running very well thanks to some sleuthing by Wendy and quick  
> fixes from Emmanuel.
> 
> My biggest concern is the scalability of polling. It currently takes  
> about 30 minutes to just run through all the required svn up commands  
> to detect if builds are needed for all the Maven projects.
> 
> - Brett
> 
> On 11/01/2007, at 10:26 AM, Arnaud HERITIER wrote:
> 
>> good luck ;-)
>> did you update the 2.1 snapshot ?
>>
>> Arnaud
>>
>> On 1/11/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'd like to turn off continuum_ci.sh and instead only use Continuum
>>> itself to do CI for Continuum. Any objections?
>>>
>>> - Brett
>>>
>>>
> 
> 

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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Franz Fehringer

Hello,

WAGONHTTP-6 and MNG-2066 are already resolved; the fixes only need to be 
incorporated in the 2.0.5 (or 2.0.6) release.

MNG-2305 should then also be resolved.

Greetings

Franz


Tom Huybrechts schrieb:

Can't you "solve" this with -Dhttps.proxyHost=xxx -Dhttps.proxyPort=... ?

On 1/11/07, Franz Fehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Will this release contain solutions to

MNG-2305
MNG-2066
WAGONHTTP-6

?

These issues mean, that it is impossible to access HTTPS (SSL)
repositories from behind proxies/firewalls (i.e. from corporate 
networks).


Thanks and greetings

Franz


Jason van Zyl schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get
> done are done. We'll release and move on.
>
> I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine
> with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which
> is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository
> but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that
> machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each
> of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.
>
> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
>
> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I
> think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is
> better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them
> out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I
> know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that
> Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a
> 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
>
> Jason.
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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Franz Fehringer

In M2_OPTS (or where else?)?

Franz


Tom Huybrechts schrieb:

Can't you "solve" this with -Dhttps.proxyHost=xxx -Dhttps.proxyPort=... ?

On 1/11/07, Franz Fehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Will this release contain solutions to

MNG-2305
MNG-2066
WAGONHTTP-6

?

These issues mean, that it is impossible to access HTTPS (SSL)
repositories from behind proxies/firewalls (i.e. from corporate 
networks).


Thanks and greetings

Franz


Jason van Zyl schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get
> done are done. We'll release and move on.
>
> I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine
> with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which
> is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository
> but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that
> machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each
> of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.
>
> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
>
> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I
> think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is
> better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them
> out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I
> know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that
> Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a
> 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
>
> Jason.
>
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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Tom Huybrechts

Can't you "solve" this with -Dhttps.proxyHost=xxx -Dhttps.proxyPort=... ?

On 1/11/07, Franz Fehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Will this release contain solutions to

MNG-2305
MNG-2066
WAGONHTTP-6

?

These issues mean, that it is impossible to access HTTPS (SSL)
repositories from behind proxies/firewalls (i.e. from corporate networks).

Thanks and greetings

Franz


Jason van Zyl schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get
> done are done. We'll release and move on.
>
> I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine
> with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which
> is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository
> but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that
> machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each
> of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.
>
> Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.
>
> I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I
> think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is
> better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them
> out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I
> know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that
> Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a
> 2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.
>
> Jason.
>
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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Venisse

Agree to the plan.

Emmanuel

Jason van Zyl a écrit :

Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get 
done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine with 
the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which is 
monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository but 
can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that machine and 
deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each of us building 
stuff from our own machines and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I think 
some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is better then 
waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them out them 
people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I know there 
are several things I would like to get in and I know that Mike/Ralph 
would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a 
week or two. These are micro release.


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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Emmanuel Venisse

+1

Emmanuel

Jason van Zyl a écrit :
Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin in 
another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your site you 
don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It really is something 
unexpected and isn't something most would associate with just generating 
a site. The functionality is cool, I just think it belong in another 
plugin.


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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Stephane Nicoll

On 1/11/07, Trygve Laugstøl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin in
> another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your site you
> don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It really is something
> unexpected and isn't something most would associate with just generating
> a site. The functionality is cool, I just think it belong in another
> plugin.

+1, it is as you say a bit of a surprise to downlown the J2EE stack to
run javadoc or transform some APT :)


Same here.

+1



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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Trygve Laugstøl

Jason van Zyl wrote:
Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin in 
another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your site you 
don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It really is something 
unexpected and isn't something most would associate with just generating 
a site. The functionality is cool, I just think it belong in another 
plugin.


+1, it is as you say a bit of a surprise to downlown the J2EE stack to 
run javadoc or transform some APT :)


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Re: [vote] release maven-ear-plugin 2.3.1

2007-01-11 Thread Fabrizio Giustina

+1
fabrizio

On 1/8/07, Stephane Nicoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to release the ear plugin which contains a backward
compatibility issue in 2.3 [1]. The issue has been fixed and the
reporter has validated his builds successfully.

Revision 492264

Snapshot available
http://people.apache.org/~snicoll/maven-stage-repo/org/apache/maven/plugins/maven-ear-plugin/2.3.1-SNAPSHOT/

Votes open for 72h.

My +1,

Stéphane


[1] http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEAR-53

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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Trygve Laugstøl

Jason van Zyl wrote:

Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get 
done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine with 
the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which is 
monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository but 
can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that machine and 
deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each of us building 
stuff from our own machines and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.


Then I think it should be released.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I think 
some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is better then 
waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them out them 
people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I know there 
are several things I would like to get in and I know that Mike/Ralph 
would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 2.0.6 in a 
week or two. These are micro release.


I don't think micro releases is the way to go in general, if you define 
micro releases to be in the scale of a a couple of weeks. The 7 months 
that has passes since 2.0.4 is too long, don't get me wrong but having 
very frequent micro releases is just going to confuse people and lead to 
inconsistent developer environments.


Just a though on making bi-weekly/monthly micro releases the new way.

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Re: Trusting in our own dog food

2007-01-11 Thread Trygve Laugstøl

Brett Porter wrote:

Folks,

I'd like to turn off continuum_ci.sh and instead only use Continuum 
itself to do CI for Continuum. Any objections?


I don't see why it should be turned off, but perhaps the automatic 
notifications can be turned off or just send failures. That way it would 
verify the product (it will in itself be an integration test) because if 
the Continuum instance says that something is failing, you should expect 
an email saying the same right after. Or at least you can check the logs 
directory if you're suspecting some other failure.


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Re: [vote] Collapse Maven permission groups

2007-01-11 Thread Lukas Theussl


[x] +1 for the full proposal - collapse all groups (implies a vote for 
the next option if vote doesn't pass)


-Lukas


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Re: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Franz Fehringer

Will this release contain solutions to

MNG-2305
MNG-2066
WAGONHTTP-6

?

These issues mean, that it is impossible to access HTTPS (SSL) 
repositories from behind proxies/firewalls (i.e. from corporate networks).


Thanks and greetings

Franz


Jason van Zyl schrieb:

Hi,

I want to call a vote for 2.0.5. All the issues that are going to get 
done are done. We'll release and move on.


I would like to start building all releases from a standard machine 
with the same JDK. I would like to propose the maven.org machine which 
is monitored 24/7 running Linux. It serves as the central repository 
but can easily handle a few builds. They can be built from that 
machine and deployed to Apache. I think this is far better then each 
of us building stuff from our own machines and deploying.


Otherwise everything for 2.0.5 is ready to go.

I will also chop up what's in JIRA into some smaller versions as I 
think some micro releases for improvements and smaller changes is 
better then waiting 7 months for another release. If we schedule them 
out them people can decide whether they want to upgrade or not. But I 
know there are several things I would like to get in and I know that 
Mike/Ralph would like to get in MNG-1577 which we can squeeze into a 
2.0.6 in a week or two. These are micro release.


Jason.

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RE: calling vote for 2.0.5

2007-01-11 Thread Jörg Schaible
Ralph Goers wrote on Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:38 AM:

> Well, if you absolutely positively promise to release 2.0.6 when
> MNG-1577 is applied ;-) .  Seriously, it has been rather frustrating
> as I can't even use Maven 2 without that fix.

Yeah, not another 9 months please, I've reported this initially for M2.0.1 ...

- Jörg

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maven-war-plugin v2.0.2 in jira

2007-01-11 Thread Tomasz Pik

Hi,

It looks that version 2.0.2 of maven-war-plugin is not marked as relesed
in jira so changes are not visible in changelog - they are in roadmap.
Can somebody take care about this?

Thanks,
Tomek

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Re: Moving site plugin webapp to another plugin

2007-01-11 Thread Milos Kleint

+1

Milos

On 1/11/07, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Can we put the webapp stuff that's currently in the site plugin in
another plugin so that when you simply want to generate your site you
don't drag down Jetty and all its dependencies? It really is
something unexpected and isn't something most would associate with
just generating a site. The functionality is cool, I just think it
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Jason.

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