[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
mkozlows, thanks for the link to your review. I really don't know much about the Roku and it's nice to read about first hand experience. Paul Runyan Wrote: I think it may not take so long. Sales of CDs are in decline, due to music downloading, particulary among the younger demographic that used to be main market.It may not take not so long... for the mainstream market. I believe the younger demographic should be the target. They are a HUGE potential consumer base. Kids nowadays are very much into computers and electronic gadgets. As they start their first jobs, they get disposable income for toys like iPods and PDAs and the like. The SB2 would be very easy for them to setup and use. As for the audiophile community, I still think it'll take awhile. While CD sales are declining, there's SACD and DVD-A. And vinyl is still around. For me, the future of CD playback is the SB2. The possibility to store all your CD music in a lossless format on a harddisk for easy and instant access, AND to play it back with audiophile quality is IT. However, audiophiles and audiophile retailers, in general, are very snobbish. I'm thinking along the same lines as JulianL. Put the SB2 in a hi-end looking box, multiply the price several times (which includes significant markup for the retailers), and get a well respected big name in the audiophile world to be associated with your product. Maybe then it'll turn some heads. -- Aylwin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray shortcoming
radish Wrote: Just an aside - if you have firefox installed, why on earth is IE your default browser? I've often seen differences in presentation between FF and IE, and I prefer to see web pages the way most of the world sees them. IF Firefox becomes the standard browser (as IE is now), then I'll switch. BTW, I *-do-* use FF for browsing SlimServer, because I like to leave the SlimServer browser open. If it's using IE, then the browser instance is frequently being kidnapped when I click on some unrelated link in another program. By using Firefox for SlimServer, I don't have to worry about that. I also happen to use FF for www.allmusic.com, so that site and SlimServer are always bashing each other over the head, but I can live with that. -= Mike Hanson =- -- Mike Hanson ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
On 17-Aug-05, at 10:21 PM, dannyg wrote: Can I get you to try the above settings on either the ALBUM, ARTIST or TRACK level of your plugin? It would be great if this was the default behavior while in the ALBUM/ARTIST/TRACK level. I'm not sure I understand. Are you having a problem when using this setting that I should be checking for? Or, are you asking that I force these settings when the plugin is in use? I don't really feel that it is right for a plugin to force settings on anyone. Right now, Dan is working on integrating the plugin with the core server, so I'm not really planning to do anything to it until that work is completed. If you have found an issue, please elaborate so that I or Dan may fix it. cheers, kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
On Wed, 2005-08-17 at 15:19 -0700, JulianL wrote: Indeed. One wonders how the SB2 would be received if it was put into a fancy minimalist but bulky high end housing, increased in price by an order of magnitude, and some key designer from Krell/Naim/Linn/Meridian or similar taken onto Slim Devices staff just so they could spin an audiophile message to the shops and mags. Audiophile shops rubbishing the concept is ridiculous, people like Linn and Meridian already offer equipment that in principle is the same as SB2 (Meridian make a big point of jitter reduction by taking the bitstream out of a big solid state buffer and Linn sell an HD player). Slim Devices just quietly delivery this stuff at a fair price and, since their entire company is built around this one concept, they have really thought hard about the protocols and the UI. I do have reasonably high-end audio, I'm sitting in front of over $10,000 of Meridian equipment as I type this, but I am very excited about swapping my CD transport for a SB2. As you and others have said, it's a very tempting idea. Take the guts of an SB2, stick it in a big box. Include a big, heavy, linear power supply, and maybe some of the HW mods that have been described (especially supply regulators, word clocks and digital output fanglers - the HiFi magazines love these). Put the price up to, say 1000UKP and add some pretentious marketing. I'm convinced this would get some interest from the hi-fi press. -- The biggest problem encountered while trying to design a system that was completely foolproof, was, that people tended to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. (Douglas Adams) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Multiple Folders / Volumes problem
Sorry if this seems like a question that has been answered before but I have tried all the relevant links/advice I could find when searching. Anyone able to provide more help or links please? -- Beau ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Multiple Folders / Volumes problem
This happened to me recently, but just in one folder that I'd recently downloaded - it turned out the file extensions were in upper case, ie .MP3 rather than .mp3 Changed them and all is well D. -- deksawyer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SlimServer on MacOS
Are there any major problems with running SlimServer on a Mac? A distant memory says there was something, but I can't remember any details. I'm getting tempted by the idea of buying a MacMini and using it as a small, quite server box. Max -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Duplicative entry when scanning playlists
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * thomsens shaped the electrons to say... Is this a known bug? It's actually a pain because I can't use playlists now. The entries are all mixed case in a way that isn't easy to adjust them. This has been fixed in the 6.2 nightlies. I still have a related problem (using the 08/18 nightly - SlimServer Version: 6.2b1 - 3994 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252). My music is all on a server in the basement along with Slimserver. So I create my playlists from network drives and the files are identified differently in the .m3u file than in slimserver. For instance slimserver lists 2 files this way: M:\My Music\Eva Cassidy\Imagine\05 - Imagine - Eva Cassidy - Imagine.mp3 \\Media-server\music (m)\My Music\Eva Cassidy\Imagine\05 - Imagine - Eva Cassidy - Imagine.mp3 Here is a second example from another drive pointed to by a shortcut: \\MEDIA-SERVER\My Music 2\Alison Brown\Stolen Moments\Alison Brown - Homeward Bound.flac \\Media-server\MUSIC 2 (N)\My Music 2\Alison Brown\Stolen Moments\Alison Brown - Homeward Bound.flac This results in multiple entires in the library for the same file. I suppose I could edit my .m3u files with a few global search and replaces, but that is a pain. I'm not entirely sure what value there is in having songs from playlists added to the library -- I view playlists as lists of songs that are already in the library. But if this is a feature people need, could an option to not add playlist entries to the library be added to settings? -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer on MacOS
I have exactly the combination as mike and its fantastic combination, almost silent running and small stylish form factor. I run it onto a 32 panasonic lcd tv with a gyration wireless keyboard and mouse for wireless track selection from the sofa. The only thing i did was up the memory to 1gb and buy the faster processor version. I have however had some teething troubles with the nightlies, with the server just stoping when both units are not in use during the day. But it seems okay now i have stopped using itunes as the front end. 5.4 was running fine. Pete. Anagram Production services -- peter_harding ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: OT: FAT32 Drives, WinXP
MrC wrote: I gave this some more thought, and it occured to me that the linux-based gpartd is unlikely to resolve the XP problem, in that it probably uses the same code and/or partition header files used by the rest of the system. I'm just guessing here. It would be interesting to hear of your findings. ...finally grabbed the drive in question and figured it out. Very simple, very stupid. When I formatted the drive originally, it looks like I forgot(?) to partition it. I didn't realize it, but mksys.vfat will apparently gladly format ol' /dev/sda without a partition. Linux and OSX will then read the drive, but XP needs partition info. Once partitioned (30 seconds with fdisk) and reformatted, I was all set. Thanks for the help. Perhaps this will help some other external drive user. -- Chip Hart - Marketing* Physician's Computer Company chip @ pcc.com * 1 Main St. #7, Winooski, VT 05404 800-722-7708 * http://www.pcc.com/~chip f.802-846-8178 * Pediatric Software Just Got Smarter. Your Practice Just Got Healthier. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox skips end of track
I'm not sure that this issue is specific to the SB. My in-car MP3 (Sony http://tinyurl.com/77n4y) changer has a problem with some MP3's I have a mixture of Franhoffer Lame encoded MP3's and some of them always end early during playback. Some of the Franhoffer encoded MP3's had audible clicks and drop-outs. One of them crashes the decoder in the Sony box entirely, forcing me to skip on to the next track. I've never bothered going to the trouble of reporting it to Sony as I doubt they would be able to provide afirmware upgrade to correct the issue. All of my MP3's play back fine in Winamp, so I think it's a question of bugs in the encoder at the time of encoding coupled with bugs in various ecoders in players. I believe the Mp3 playback in the SB firmware is based on MAD player. -- oreillymj ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox skips end of track
oreillymj Wrote: All of my MP3's play back fine in Winamp, so I think it's a question of bugs in the encoder at the time of encoding coupled with bugs in various ecoders in players. Does this imply that re-ripping the offending tracks might solve the problem? (Something that I probably should've tried before but didn't...) -- Nick McGrogan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote trigger to power amplifier
Is there a way of getting a remote power turn-on trigger signal from the SB2 to power up an amplifier? Maybe there is an internal supply voltage that is in standby when turned off? Can anyone tell me where to find a suitable voltage? I will then place a buffer (if needed), connectors and a switching relay in my Rotel power amplifier. The SB2 will be the only audio source and the amplifier will be hidden, so it needs no power when the SB2 is turned off. -- gonk Does this unit have a bad motivator? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
kdf, I'm not having problems. I don't want to force anything on anybody, its just that I thought that having those settings as a default would make your plugin work a little better. Being able to see the song name that is playing imediately after pressing PLAY or FWD is preferable to just displaying the word ALBUM for 20 seconds, or however long your screensaver timout is set to. -- dannyg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
Great Plugin! The only improvement I would like to see is that I am able to restrict the selection (of the tracks, album or artist) to specific genres. Usually I want to hear a random selection of my songs but without songs having the genre classical, audio book or children's songs. At the moment I do not use the random plugin but create a playlist having only songs of all other genres what is a pain (since I cannot select a plurality of genres) and play this playlist in shuffle mode. But when I add new songs to the library I have to add these songs also to the playlist or re-create it. It would be great if in the settings of the random plugin all genres would be shown, each having a checkbox for inclusion in the random list or not. -- dip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
Fifer wrote: It is a very tempting idea. A few more thoughts: Slim Devices get into bed with a small, respected, audio company (Cambridge Audio spring to mind; robust, reasonably priced, respected product line, similar to Slim Devices). Put the SB2 internals into a Cambridge Audio box (tweaked as above, decent linear PSU, high end electrolytics, ditch the op amp and add two RCA sockets and a switch to provide an external DAC input) and voilà, the Cambridge Audio Wireless Music Server DAC (with embedded Slim Devices technology). A small, unobtrusive, reasonably priced unit with a compact power supply fits in nicely with the Slim Devices moniker. I know the name of the company is likely a play on thin device, referring to the brains being server-side in the form of SlimServer, but I think this philosophy carries through to the hardware design too. I like that it's not a huge, mostly empty metal box*! Nick * - I have no doubt that, had it arrived in a huge, mostly empty metal box, there would be more than a few people posting about extracting the innards and placing it in a small enclosure... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 8/17/2005 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray shortcoming
IF Firefox becomes the standard browser (as IE is now), then I'll switch. It already is the standard-s- browser. It's just not the most commonly used. The problem is, if you continue to use IE just because some sites are broken, that doesn't give the lazy maintainers of those sites any encouragement to fix things, and so everyone gets stuck with crappy pages for years to come. I also happen to use FF for www.allmusic.com, so that site and SlimServer are always bashing each other over the head, but I can live with that. Install the tab browser preferences extension, set external links to open in new tabs, problem solved. -- radish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem with the CLI
I have exactly the same problem. Slimserver 6.1.1, Squeezebox 1, Windows XP Pro. The CLI polling program that I have used for a year unter 5.x breaks now because of random ? responses to valid queries. The examples you cite: Command: playlist index ? Response: playlist index %3Fplaylist Command: playlist shuffle ? Response: playlist shuffle %3Fpower ... are the ones I experience too. This also happens with other commands to retrieve artist, titles, etc. information. I can't even isolate the condition where it happens, but I know it isn't the polling program because I can type a command in manually through a telnet window and get a Response: playlist index %3Fplaylist response some of the time, and a valid response other times. Someone please help this is driving me crazy! -- mdw ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
seconded, that's a great idea. - Original Message - From: dip [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in Great Plugin! The only improvement I would like to see is that I am able to restrict the selection (of the tracks, album or artist) to specific genres. Usually I want to hear a random selection of my songs but without songs having the genre classical, audio book or children's songs. At the moment I do not use the random plugin but create a playlist having only songs of all other genres what is a pain (since I cannot select a plurality of genres) and play this playlist in shuffle mode. But when I add new songs to the library I have to add these songs also to the playlist or re-create it. It would be great if in the settings of the random plugin all genres would be shown, each having a checkbox for inclusion in the random list or not. -- dip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
I too agree with everything said before. Great plugin. Maybe I shoud not re-start a plugin contest, but I really want to express my admiration (again) for the Biography and the Album Review plugin. These are the two that really amazes my visitors!! I'd also like to see these become part of the 'standard' package...(and on the webinterface they're even better, with photos and such!) I cannot wait for the moment that I can choose to scroll the biography as text on the display while the music is playing... Bye Peter -- SlimPvC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimDevices losing out in the UK
I agree Nick and personally have no problem with the form factor. The ideas discussed above were designed at widening the appeal of the product to (a) those who do have a problem with the 'radio alarm' look, (b) audiophile shops who are uncomfortable with new technology, slim margins and a new (to them) brand and (c) the more conservative customers of (b). -- Fifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Squeezebox skips end of track
Nick McGrogan wrote: Does this imply that re-ripping the offending tracks might solve the problem? (Something that I probably should've tried before but didn't...) i'd say it's worth a shot. if successful it would isolate the issue and give you a workaround. try alternate software to rip and encode (EAC and LAME recommended). you might also try a different bitrate setting in iTunes. or a more recent release of iTunes. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SlimTray shortcoming
radish wrote: IF Firefox becomes the standard browser (as IE is now), then I'll switch. It already is the standard-s- browser. It's just not the most commonly used. The problem is, if you continue to use IE just because some sites are broken, that doesn't give the lazy maintainers of those sites any encouragement to fix things, and so everyone gets stuck with crappy pages for years to come. I also happen to use FF for www.allmusic.com, so that site and SlimServer are always bashing each other over the head, but I can live with that. Install the tab browser preferences extension, set external links to open in new tabs, problem solved. Extension may not be necessary -- I don't have it, and allmusic.com works fine for me. Edit Preferences Advanced Tabbed Browsing has all the settings I need :) -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org : It's a Scientific Venture! I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, so across the Western ocean I must wander. -- All for Me Grog, traditional ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: OT: FAT32 Drives, WinXP
MrC Wrote: I've seen this even with FAT32 floppies formatted in Linux, where they are unreadable in WinXP. Formatted in XP, they work fine back and forth. This leads to the conclusion that there is a slight difference in the partition table, but I've not investigate what the exact differences are. Windows XP always formats floppies using FAT12. It was my understanding that all operating systems do the same because of the physical design of floppies, but I am not certain of that. -- abdomen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer on MacOS
On 18/8/05 at 04:43 -0700, max.spicer wrote Are there any major problems with running SlimServer on a Mac? A distant memory says there was something, but I can't remember any details. I'm getting tempted by the idea of buying a MacMini and using it as a small, quite server box. I don't know anything about the Mac Mini, but I was using SlimServer happily on the Quicksilver 800 MHz G4. I don't have a lot of tracks, though. there can be issues with the Unix underpinnings of Mac OS X not being totally standard Unix, but any that occur just need a simple tweak or two. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
dip wrote: It would be great if in the settings of the random plugin all genres would be shown, each having a checkbox for inclusion in the random list or not. (apologies if the below describes something much like what is already implemented, i don't use Shuffle/Random very often and don't have an SB or SoftSqueeze in front of me at the moment to test.) another way to come at this would be to add a random option at other points in the navigation. in other words, rather than have random just appear at the top of the menu system, also include a random play option as a submenu of nodes like the individual genera, albums or artist. If this was a oft used option, a key mapping could be considered. Browse --Genre Rock --Play --Random Play Browse --Albums AnAlbum --Play --Random Play Browse --Artists AnArtist --Play --Random Play granted, this arrangement wouldn't directly support random playback of mixed genres. though you could get there with a smart playlist set up to filter down to multiple genres, played back in Random Play. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: OT: FAT32 Drives, WinXP
abdomen Wrote: Windows XP always formats floppies using FAT12. It was my understanding that all operating systems do the same because of the physical design of floppies, but I am not certain of that. This is incorrect. Floppies can be formated with most any filesystem type, such as HFS, NTFS, Fat16, Fat32, UFS, XFS, raw data, etc. -- MrC ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
On 18-Aug-05, at 8:52 AM, ron thigpen wrote: granted, this arrangement wouldn't directly support random playback of mixed genres. though you could get there with a smart playlist set up to filter down to multiple genres, played back in Random Play. Having this kind of control was never the intent of the original plugin, though I had considered this, since it would be an obvious request. I my mind, it seemed easiest to accept a listref as an input, such as a playlist or search results. This way, existing code, UI and structure is re-used to create the same end results. This will allow the focus to remain on the Search function for creating better control over selections. A random play item in browse lists might not be too hard too. We'll have to see how the integration turns out :) -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: OT: FAT32 Drives, WinXP
MrC Wrote: This is incorrect. Floppies can be formated with most any filesystem type, such as HFS, NTFS, Fat16, Fat32, UFS, XFS, raw data, etc. I stand corrected. I will stick by Windows XP always formats floppies using FAT12 (until again corrected by someone more knowledgeable). -- abdomen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray shortcoming
radish Wrote: It already is the standard-s- browser. It's just not the most commonly used. The problem is, if you continue to use IE just because some sites are broken, that doesn't give the lazy maintainers of those sites any encouragement to fix things, and so everyone gets stuck with crappy pages for years to come. Since IE is used by the most users, then it's the de facto standard, even if it doesn't support all of the standards. If I see the most sites correctly (i.e. as tested by the site builder with IE), then that's good enough for me. I don't feel compelled to force all those lazy maintainers to tow the line. I also don't despise Microsoft, as I expect that you do. radish Wrote: Install the tab browser preferences extension, set external links to open in new tabs, problem solved. I don't want the tabs, as I've got the interface in FF set to be as minimal as possible (e.g. no address bar, etc.), to maximize screen real estate for SlimServer. -= Mike Hanson =- -- Mike Hanson ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
Robin Bowes wrote: What's the difference between Random Play and Play with shuffle turned on? i think it's in how you access it. shuffle/random are the same concepts, no? it's all in how you make the function available. this scheme would give direct access to either standard or random play at the point where a user is making the decision to stop browsing and begin playback. just seems right. the current design seems like it's copied from a standard CD player where shuffle/random is modal and applies automatically to all playback while engaged. that arrangement makes sense if it's done in hardware. CDPs generally have a shuffle/random button that is always available for instant selection, as well as always visible on-screen visual feedback. SBs have a shuffle key on the remote, but how does that work? (i really am asking, don't have one in front of me). does it interrupt the browse process to change the shuffle setting before choosing play? can you jump back easily to where you were? what happens to the existing playlist if selected during playback? what i'm proposing would be a means to emulate in software a remote with two play buttons: play and random play. not sure about every detail. but, again, it just seems that the point of choosing to begin playback is the right point to choose random or sequential track ordering. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
No, the difference is that 'play with shuffle' applies to the whole playlist already created 'random play' creates a playlist chosen randomly from all tracks available The key difference being that if you only want to listen to 30 minutes of truly random music you don't need to create a multi-thousand track playlist if you're using the 'random play' plugin. James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
Quoting Robin Bowes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What's the difference between Random Play and Play with shuffle turned on? There were complaints that having shuffle on and playing the entire collection would overload the server for a long time. The plugin took a different approach, loading only 10 random tracks, or a single random artist or album. In track mode, after playing one track, it is dropped from the playlist and a new random track is added to the end. In Artist/Album mode, when the last song is playing, a new random artist/album is added to the end of the playlist. This way, the load is very short. -kdf-- NOT a Slim Devices employee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
Craig, James (IT) wrote: No, the difference is that 'play with shuffle' applies to the whole playlist already created 'random play' creates a playlist chosen randomly from all tracks available The key difference being that if you only want to listen to 30 minutes of truly random music you don't need to create a multi-thousand track playlist if you're using the 'random play' plugin. so, while they're functionally equivalent to the user, they're different in UI presentation and performance. what happens when the random play plugin runs out of tracks? does it go back to the well w/o being prompted? --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
kdf wrote: In track mode, after playing one track, it is dropped from the playlist and a new random track is added to the end. In Artist/Album mode, when the last song is playing, a new random artist/album is added to the end of the playlist. This way, the load is very short. ah. so the plugin addressed two issues: UI presentation of the option, and internal design affecting performance. then maybe there is an argument for reworking the internal operations of the standard shuffle to get this performance gain. one wrinkle would be in avoiding repeats. this distinct from any UI design changes. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Multiple Folders / Volumes problem
Thanks for the suggestion deksawyer but all of mine are flac and the extensions are all lower case. Any other ideas folk? TIA Beau -- Beau ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
Quoting ron thigpen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: then maybe there is an argument for reworking the internal operations of the standard shuffle to get this performance gain. one wrinkle would be in avoiding repeats. correct. the plugin calls a very barebones rand() function. it is not truly random, nor does it care about repeats. The only intelligence is to make sure its a valid, playable track. This, of course, is only speaking of the plugin. It may or may not have any relation to what Dan is working on. -kdf-- NOT a Slim Devices employee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
