Re: [slim] Cannot adjust volume at all
I've both rebooted and re-installed without changing things. The only thing I have not done is a complete uninstall and re-install. You didn't by chance install the VolumeLock or similar plugin :-)? -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] sony Ericsson w960.....$300usd
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[slim] Switching SB3 off
good morning i have a SB3 - and would like to know can i switch it off without having to go through the rigmarole of re-assigning it when switching back on - in essence i would prefer if possible to not have on standby but rather attach mains supply to the unit when i want to listen to it, but otherwise have it switched off and not produce a carbon footprint ! any wise owls to advise ? Liam -- soupdragon SB3 ( - NET Audio Sonance DAC ) + Cyrus CD6 + JVC QL A75 DD TT - Cyrus PreX - Eclipse TD 502 - Eclipse 512 speakers soupdragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4958 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
I usually just turn mine on and off at the mains. You do have to go through a few options with the RC but it is very fast. Once powered on its something like.. Right to configure Down three times to Squeeze Network or your server of choice Then right to confirm So it is about five clicks with the remote. I am with you on the power saving! -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
thanks guys is it best to have default at squeezenetwork (SN) or slimserver(SS) ? it seems form what you are saying that SN is better ? Liam -- soupdragon SB3 ( - NET Audio Sonance DAC ) + Cyrus CD6 + JVC QL A75 DD TT - Cyrus PreX - Eclipse TD 502 - Eclipse 512 speakers soupdragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4958 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
When I disconnect my SBs from the mains occasionally and then reattach them they connect to the previously selected server without any manual interaction a couple of seconds after displaying the setup/select server screen. -s. -- slimpy slimpy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Apple to release unlocked iPhone in France
Found interesting article. Apple is releasing an unlocked version of the iPhone that will allow users to run it on various cellular networks. But you have to live in France to get it. Continue is here - http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/index.cfm?emailNewsID=8913 -- pop13 pop13's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39609 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
I also find that using a static ip makes my SB connect slightly faster than with dhcp. Not that the boot up time really bothers me anyway. It is also an automatic procedure for me (no button presses), but I only have one server with a static ip. Bjørn -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
(why on earth would you have a noisy PC in your listening room?) I keep mine in the kitchen, but monitor, keyboard and mouse in the living room. No noise that way! Tom ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] new music in date added order
no luck i would have thought this would haev been a common way of listenign to music? Guess I'm uncommon :-) -- defnk defnk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39407 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cannot adjust volume at all
jmonier;237440 Wrote: My SlimServer is in a state where I cannot change analog or digital volume on any of 5 SqueezeBoxes. Each one is stuck at a different place on the volume bar but will not budge from that spot in response to anything including the web page. The volume bar appears whenever a volume button is pressed and remains up while the button is held down but does not move. If I access volume under Settings the bar WILL move but volume does not change and the regular volume bar will be at the same spot as before. This hangup probably occurred while I was working with the Command Line Interface but I have no idea what I did to cause it. I've both rebooted and re-installed without changing things. The only thing I have not done is a complete uninstall and re-install. Any ideas? I agree with Michael that's probably a plug in that you're using. I had this very thing happen to me and eventually found that it was the IR Blaster plugin that fixed the volume. So, check around. HTH, SS -- Secret Squirrel Secret Squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4984 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39598 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
soupdragon;237515 Wrote: thanks guys is it best to have default at squeezenetwork (SN) or slimserver(SS) ? it seems form what you are saying that SN is better ? Liam I think it does indeed auto default to whatever you used last. So whatever floats your boat. I just find myself listening to SN at night and then again first thing in the morning since i do turn my server off. I also use SN and MP3Tunes for casual listening - perhaps that saves a leaf or two :) -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Zune Market Place
No love for the Zune or Zune MarketPlace? No users out there? -- gtcharlie gtcharlie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39586 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 Skin
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19369 Question: Do you have a 770? - Got it - Want it - Need it - Forget it Ben, I've spent ages going through all the SqueezeCenter pages with the new microB browaer. The only two issues are: Sort order select works in artwork, but not list view. The progress bar doesn't go all the way across the screen in now playing. It seems to think that 100% is roughly in line with the mute button. Hope this is useful. Tim -- timmorris timmorris's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4147 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox stopping
The only change I made to my SB, before it stopped playing was to put it in a slightly higher place and away from the amp. This improved signal strength from a an average 20% (which was usually fine) to and average 50% in preparation for a party this weekend. Now I have no music. The SB displays the song to be played, along with the duration etc. - but nothing starts up. I can change menu's and select new songs, just nothing happens. Any change made on the SB are reflected in Slim. Similarly any changes made in Slim are reflected on the SB. Any advice -- Minora Minora's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5373 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] which debug setting ?
I use my SB2 to listen to TalkSport radio during the night (www.talksport.net). Recently, the stream has begun stopping at around 2 in the morning. Which debug option should I check on the web interface to get the best idea of why this is happening ? (Its a wma stream, but I have had to uncheck wma built-in support in the file types config in order to get the stream to transcode and play on the SB2.) -- gingerneil gingerneil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39616 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cannot adjust volume at all
I already had IR Blaster disabled (not checked) before the problem occurred. I just tried removing the IR Blaster directory completely and that DID fix the problem. Apparently IR Blaster is responding in a bad way (even when disabled) to some combination of CLI volume change commands. -- jmonier jmonier's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39598 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Powered speakers or midi system?
Here's the link http://www.qnap.com.tw/images/products/NAS/TS109Pro/Thermal_TS-109_Series_ENG.pdf -- holmsn holmsn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3809 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iTouch as a remote
RD, I'd also like to tweak the interface to be more finger friendly - I love the current interface with a stylus, but for fingers it's the pits. Also, it uses CSS and loads a TON of bitmaps, etc. Unfortunately, each fetch slows down the whole system because it has to be calculated, etc... I was thinking that replacing it with a single bitmap (or series of bitmaps) with hot zone links (isn't that old-school HTML? I forget what they're called - client-side maps?) I looked into converting it to Flash, but that learning curve for Actionscript/Flex was too big for me at the moment - and it wouldn't work on the iPod/iPhone... PS: Do you know if the iPod touch's browser can do full-screen? That's one of the huge advantages of the Nokias - they do full-screen! (I picked up a 770) If there's a way I can help out, let me know. (dan -at freepdx d-t c0m) -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cannot adjust volume at all
Yeah, I would have mentioned that if you had responded the you did have IR Blaster installed. This was exactly the problem I had the solution I found. Good work! I hope that makes things better! SS -- Secret Squirrel Secret Squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4984 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39598 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Zune Market Place
IMO... stay away from anything Zune related. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39586 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sonos getting smarter?
You can now get a $99 ZoneBridge, which is basically the wireless mesh access point; add a ZonePlayer 80 at your stereo ($349), and the fancy remote ($399 - too expensive, I'm sure SD is planning to be better), and you've got the basic system that SB3/SC provides, at a price that puts it much closer to being in a position to take away market share. IMO SB3 is the superior solution, but its interesting to watch how the market develops. -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
Back in the Slim Devices days, I always suspected Sonos was larger than Slim - I had no idea why. But now the tables have definitely turned. Logitech has much, much deeper pockets than Sonos does and certainly has the RD capability and marketing dollars to crush Sonos. Sonos is now the bit player. Logitech is not standing still in this department either, it looks like there are big changes coming. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
At $850 I wouldn't call it much closer to $299. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
mvalera;237636 Wrote: At $850 I wouldn't call it much closer to $299. Exactly what I was thinking, particularly as Sonos still requires a machine running to hold all the data. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Zune Market Place
I had a Zune for a while (just wanted to try one out) and as a player it's fine. Don't expect to get any of the store or subscription stuff to work with Squeezeboxes though...yet another incompatible DRM scheme. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39586 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rescanning times (in SC7) with MusicIP
Hi, I just did a rescan on the setting Look for new and changed music after having added a new album. I have musicip enabled. My library is ~1 tracks mostly flac. In SC7 the detailed scanning information page shows how much time each stage takes (I don't know how much it can be trusted though). But according to the numbers shown music ip scanning took ~18 minutes, while all other stages each took 1 min. Questions: Is this normal? Why does the musicip stage take so long? How can the times be improved? Thanks, Bjørn SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 14056 - Debian - EN - utf8 Server IP address: 192.168.1.5 Perl Version: 5.8.8 i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.45-Debian_1ubuntu3 -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39624 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Zune Market Place
gtcharlie;237647 Wrote: So even if I use the all you can listen to subscription and place the tracks on my networked computer I will not be able to stream them through the squeezebox? You won't be able to play them on anything other than Zune players, Xbox360 or the Windows Zune player. Obviously they won't play on an iPod, but they also won't play on any Plays for Sure WMA player. Last I knew even Windows Media Player would not play Zune files... Zune is the most wonderfully perfect example of the brokenness of DRM schemes, refusing to honor any prior purchased files, and refusing to work even with other products from the same company let alone others. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39586 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] slimsever 7.0 stats en stops
I have solved the problem. I removed the database and reinstalled the slimserver. -- jang jang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39589 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Zune Market Place
Brutal. Really a shame too as I like what I have seen of the Zune player especially with the drastic price reductions the older models are undergoing. Given the limited playability of the tunes though I assure you I will not be purchasing one. -- gtcharlie gtcharlie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39586 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
radish;237638 Wrote: Exactly what I was thinking, particularly as Sonos still requires a machine running to hold all the data. Not really.. Sonos devices can talk to NAS directly, instead of having to have something like slimserver running. Of course this limits you to the horsepower of the Sonos device for everything. Ok for small libraries, not so good for large ones. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dedicated AP or PoE adapter
bernt wrote: Hi! I have a Netgear what is locked to 802.11g. But it looks like it's not powerful enough. Everytime my daughter use MSN with a webcam or watch a Youtube movie from her WiFi connected PC the SB3 goes nuts. I also have an old Symbol Spectrum24 with two anntenas and very god range laying around. But it's only 802.11b. Should I go for a dedicated old AP or a new PoE adapter. I mostly stream flac. Don't confuse Power over Ethernet with powerline networking, it's something else altogether. A dedicated AP sounds like your best option. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
I think it is very important to consider like with like when comparing. In the UK 2 x SB3 and a Nokia 800 style controller would now be around £530. A similar Sonos package £770 (if you wanted the bridge to not have the one ZP wired). That's still some difference but it's closer. The NAS would be an optional extra for both. For me though, I'm not sure what the Sonos actually does better to earn that extra £200/$400. I can actually think of some things it doesn't do, or doesn't do as well, hence my reason for going with the SB. -- Empgamer 2 x SB3 1 x SoftSqueeze QNAP TS109 Pro (v.1.1.2)/ Slimserver (6.5.4) 1 x Accoustic Energy Aego M 1 x Audioengine A5 Windows XP Home on Dell XPS 600 Empgamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
How about its mesh network, better NAS functionality, sexy dedicated controller, and alleged better analogue sound quality (according to some reviews)? plus i think the n800 price you calculated is a limited promotion. On the other hand Sonos has no display on its units and won't play (as far as I am aware) BBC outside the UK or listen-again, or allow any plug-ins. I really like my SB3s but I am no flag waver - I think competition is a good thing and keeps products evolving. -- James_B James_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11309 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
James_B wrote: How about its mesh network, better NAS functionality, sexy dedicated controller, and alleged better analogue sound quality (according to some reviews)? plus i think the n800 price you calculated is a limited promotion. The Jive hardware is of course much more promising than the N800... On the other hand Sonos has no display on its units and won't play (as far as I am aware) BBC outside the UK or listen-again, or allow any plug-ins. I really like my SB3s but I am no flag waver - I think competition is a good thing and keeps products evolving. The main thing for me is that the Sonos is a closed and static design, while my old 'slimp3' still grows new features with every new plugin and every new slimserver version *and* I can tinker with it myself. If price wasn't an issue I think I'd advise non-technical friends to get a Sonos. The ones that are a little more technically inclined should get an SB3. Definitely... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rescanning times (in SC7) with MusicIP
Questions: Is this normal? Why does the musicip stage take so long? How can the times be improved? I've never looked at it in detail (as I tend to start the process and just leave it alone). But scans with MIP enabled do take much longer. How much - I don't know. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
Actually Mark, they are both BIT players! As in ones and zeros, anyway Sonus is moving closer to tail end Charlie, is still over priced, and still less of a product then SB. of course this is all my very baised opinion after spending 6 months to decide which Network Player to purchase and having decided on Slim Devices. Slim Devices was already pushing the envelope and with Logitech behind them, there should be new things on the horizon that are going to put pressure on all the other bit players in the market. Biggest thing I can think of immediately is the fact that Logitech owns the Harmony brand. I think we are going to see a huge difference in future remotes for both SB and TP. If I were Logitech, I would put a small 5x7 ad of the TP on one side and SB on the other inside every Harmony Remote they sell and maybe even the computer products they sell because those buyers have a PC for sure and are half way to enjoying network audio. Cross branding and cross promoting would make SB sales soar and add to TP sales in some fashion. For what its worth that my 10 (read in bits)cents. -- iPhone iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
Just making idle conversation, could one of the Slim Devices Tech guys or a senior member tell us how many watts the SB draws at power off idle with the clock screen saver setting and the brightness set to the lowest setting (first above dark)? I am fairly sure it is more then I think it is because of how warm the wall wart stays as well as the top of the SB3. -- iPhone iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
iPhone;237733 Wrote: Just making idle conversation, could one of the Slim Devices Tech guys or a senior member tell us how many watts the SB draws at power off idle with the clock screen saver setting and the brightness set to the lowest setting (first above dark)? I am fairly sure it is more then I think it is because of how warm the wall wart stays as well as the top of the SB3. Someone did some measurments a while ago, its posted here. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34789highlight=power+consumption -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
SuperQ;237682 Wrote: Not really.. Sonos devices can talk to NAS directly, instead of having to have something like slimserver running. Of course this limits you to the horsepower of the Sonos device for everything. Ok for small libraries, not so good for large ones. Not sure I get you here about talking directly to the NAS. There's still a software layer with Sonos+NAS; I presume it's UPnP, although I guess it could be something else. And, even though Sonos can run on a wider variety of NASs, slimserver does run on many NASs, with the same horsepower caveat as Sonos. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
ursus, I didn't get an answer from the Music Label forum. I really am curious where the tag information should be coming from. Should it be on the CD from which I have copied the music and saved it as a wma file or in some other format? Should it come from Gracenote when I query that database with the CD in the computer player for information about the CD? If that doesn't happen, is the tag information supposed to come from a software program for cataloging the music files? And I am still wondering why tag data is important to Slimserver. Thanks, John -- JSharp JSharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
JSharp;237742 Wrote: I really am curious where the tag information should be coming from. Should it be on the CD from which I have copied the music and saved it as a wma file or in some other format? Should it come from Gracenote when I query that database with the CD in the computer player for information about the CD? There is no information on the CD other than the music itself. A computer-based application always has to get data from somewhere else, in this case Gracenote. If that doesn't happen, is the tag information supposed to come from a software program for cataloging the music files? What ML2008 has done is it's added all that data to its database, but it has not written any tags and will not until the software is updated from what that forum post says. And I am still wondering why tag data is important to Slimserver. That's how SlimServer and every other software player (Winamp, Windows Media Player, foobar, iTunes) gets its Artist - Album - Track - Genre, etc. info. Without tags, SlimServer can try to guess these things based on file and folder structure (artist/album/title.wma or artist-album-title.wma) but if that file and folder structure isn't there, SlimServer has no way to tell who the artist, album, title, genre etc. is. Nor will any other software player. Incidentally SlimServer is fairly unique in that it can guess tags based on file and folder structure, but if you don't even have that, it can't tell the files apart. You'd have 1 albums with 5267 songs by 1 artists - the one album would be No Album, the songs would be called by their titles, and the artist would be No Artist. Not workable. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Switching SB3 off
Keep making that newbie mistake of not doing a search before asking a question that over the years has probably been covered or asked at least once before. Lesson learned and again thanks So anyway so others don't have to trot off to the link if they don't feel like it: The answer was about 5 watts no matter what seems to be going on. Now for my question to everybody that is turning off their SBs at night to save Mother Earth: What is your TV set to? 1 instant on (meaning its in full standby) 2 full off (the remote will not turn the TV on you have to push the button) 3 Or Mother Earth mode (unplugged until you need to watch it) I bet most are answer number one. I don't think we need to worry about fully unplugging our SBs until there are more of them then DVD players and TVs (hey I can dream can't I). -- iPhone iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39606 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
Mark Lanctot wrote: There is no information on the CD other than the music itself. Close, some CDs have CDTEXT data, usually track names. And recent CD players can display it. But in general, Mark is correct. The simple Album/artist/track title information is not there. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
iPhone;237726 Wrote: Actually Mark, they are both BIT players! As in ones and zeros ;-) Biggest thing I can think of immediately is the fact that Logitech owns the Harmony brand. I think we are going to see a huge difference in future remotes for both SB and TP. You know about Jive, of course. Anyway there was a Harmony engineer asking some questions about Jive... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38579 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38537 Not sure where that will lead as the Jive hardware appears to be being led by Logitech out of Mountainview, but still. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
Does Slimserver or any other player need to know the track name for purposes of displaying that information? Does it need the tag information for any other reason? If I were to choose a track saved on computer that had no tag information but to be played through Slimserver, would Slimserver still play track but show no meaningful information in its display? John -- JSharp JSharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
JSharp;237770 Wrote: Does Slimserver or any other player need to know the track name for purposes of displaying that information? Does it need the tag information for any other reason? If I were to choose a track saved on computer that had no tag information but to be played through Slimserver, would Slimserver still play track but show no meaningful information in its display? My CD player in the car plays CD's of mp3's... useful for cramming 10 hours of music onto a disc. It reads tags for display. Slimserver wants (but does not need... more below) tags for display and sorting. How do you know what album 01 Track01.flac belongs to? What else would you want it to display on your screen? If you are content with the display looking like poop (ie, Track01.flac) and with confusing browsing (why is everything filed under unknown artist? It should just KNOW this!), then, sure, skip tags... but that would, well, suck. Tags are intended as being a cross-player method of passing information about the contents of the file. Whether it is WMP, or iTunes or Slimserver or my ancient PJBox, tags carry at least the album, artist and track so all of them know what it is... It even passes to my car stereo what it is playing. Slimserver -does- have a Guess Tags function that lets it guess tags, but it requires you be very precise in your naming and organizing especially if you want it to handle anything more than Artist/Track/Album. Genre, Year, Composer, Band are very useful for some collections and trying to get those all crammed into path/file would be icky. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
I agree that it would look a lot better if the display accurately displayed and I would prefer that. My concern was whether the absence of tags would prevent Slimserver from working at all. -- JSharp JSharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Zune Market Place
Hi, I received a Zune for Christmas last year and I like it fine for use in my car and travel. I don't use marketplace (although I have $50 to spend there), nor have I purchased any other online music yet. All my current music is ripped CDs to WMA lossless then just convert to 128k WMA for Zune so I can fit most of my music. If I had my choice though, I would likely go with an iPod due to it's overall support pretty much everywhere on the planet. Sometimes it is good to go mainstream. :o) Just my 2 cents. -- sparks451 sparks451's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39586 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Zune Market Place
gtcharlie;237675 Wrote: Brutal. Really a shame too as I like what I have seen of the Zune player especially with the drastic price reductions the older models are undergoing. Given the limited playability of the tunes though I assure you I will not be purchasing one. So buy the player but not the music. I have an iPod but have never (and likely will never) buy anything from iTunes. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39586 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
JSharp;23 Wrote: I agree that it would look a lot better if the display accurately displayed and I would prefer that. My concern was whether the absence of tags would prevent Slimserver from working at all. Strictly speaking, no it wouldn't. You would lose a lot of the useful browsing searching functionality but if you could somehow figure out which file to play it would play just fine. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos getting smarter?
SuperQ;237682 Wrote: Not really.. Sonos devices can talk to NAS directly NAS = machine. I was differentiating it from one of the solutions which includes storage (like a media center extenders). -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
Radish, In some ways, your post brings me back to the beginning of this thread. I just read the entire thread again. I think some poorly expressed statements I made may have left the wrong impression. I understand the general concept that SB needs SS to run, like Client for Microsoft Networks is needed to access resources on a Windows network. I never meant to say that I didnt want to use SS for its resources to transfer sound files from the computer to SB to the home audio system. I understand that SB relies on and MUST have SS to operate. But I also understand (I think) that SS has a catalog feature from which the user selects the sound files to be transferred. What I want to do is use a different catalog as an overlay to only that part of the SS software from which I can select the sound files and then rely on SSs expertise to move the sound files to SB. To continue the analogy, rather than use Windows Explorer to surf the necessary Client for Microsoft Networks, I would use a third-party utility which is more powerful and full-featured than Windows Explorer. But in using that analogy, I dont mean to offend SS and suggest that it is not powerful. I want to use the separate catalog software only because I like it and have many music tracks cataloged there with the same tracks (mostly jazz) being played by different groups of musicians. I can select the same song by different groups of musicians or the same musicians but over different time periods and listen to the differences. Its really not a huge desire, but if it can be done, Id like to do it. Certainly, I could maintain the catalog software I have for its information, etc., and then turn to SSs catalog to choose the songs. Maybe thats what I will have to do. In short, I know that I NEED to use SS with SB and I WANT to use SS and all of its features (because it gets such great reviews), EXCEPT I want to use a different software from which to select the music. It seemed originally to me as though SS would not care whether I used its music browser or my own, but it sounds as though I have to use its catalog system. And then the complication of tags arose. I know we are at the beat the dead horse stage in this thread and if everyone is tired of it, I understand. I have learned and appreciate all the advice I have received. Ill eventually get something to work. John -- JSharp JSharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox stopping
JimC;237392 Wrote: Your symptoms point to a dropped network connection, since the screen blanks (when the server is lost) and returns to the OFF node when the server is rediscovered. You should look into interference issues (2.4GHz phones nearby, microwave sources -- ovens, antennas, etc., your neighbor's access point, etc.). You may benefit from changing to a channel not near any other access points. 1, 6, and 11 are best (you need 5 channels between each for 802.11G networks). -= Jim Same problem for me. Just stops playing intermittently. My computer says the signal strength is very good. I got rid of my 2.4GHz phone recently. But there's noise everywhere. Of course I have a microwave, but it's not running when the problem occurs. When I check available wireless networks, there are typically 4-5 signals I can see from neighbors. Can't do much about that. I went to check which channel I use for my Wifi and noticed that I had forgotten there are settings for 'Super G' and 'Super G with Turbo' which supposedly speed up the network. I wondered if that could be a problem and a Google search brought up a few articles about how many technical types think these modes can increase the potential for interference. I switched my router to standard G mode without Super G or Turbo. We'll see if this helps! -- jvlgato jvlgato's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] not finding all my songs
neocx;236860 Wrote: Hi Gang, Sorry if this problem has been posted before, but I could not find anything in the forums. My SS is not finding all my songs/albums. I am not running itunes but rather using the SS interface. I have asked it to rescan my library several times, but a good amount of my music is not showing up. Any suggestions? Thanks I had this problem although was using iTunes; also had same songs listed multiple times. Rescanning didn't help. I had to click the choice to clear all the songs and rescan and this worked for me. Have you tried that option? -- jvlgato jvlgato's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39525 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
Oh I quite understand what you're trying to do, and I don't doubt that it would be possible to integrate the two apps in that way. I just don't think it's very likely to actually happen - it would be a lot of work and to be honest it seems like a pretty niche requirement. The suggestions you're getting from people are just trying to offer alternative solutions which might work well for you. If you're 100% set on using your existing software though, i don't see how you'd get it to work sensibly without someone doing some development for you. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I Use Other Catalog Software?
John, if you like to make the combination of Music Label 2008 and SlimServer to work as you like, it would probably require some development work. It might be easy or it might be hard, it all depends on how open Music Label 2008 is for third party development. Some solutions that might work: 1. Extend the Music Label software so it sends a signal to SlimServer with the tracks you have selected to play. SlimServer has several programmatic interfaces to receive this information already today, so changes would only be required on the Music Label side. The natural choice would be to use the SlimServer CLI interface. All this either relies on that the Music Label developers implement this or that Music Label is possible to extend with plugins. In case Music Label is possible to extend with plugins, you can do it yourself or get some third party developer to do it for you. 2. If the Music Label database has an open interface, it would be possible to build a SlimServer plugin that read information from the Music Label database. This would probably require a lot more work than solution 1 mentioned above, but it wouldn't require any changes on the Music Label side assuming it's database already has an open interface. The solution would result in that you would get the information stored in the Music Label database into the SlimServer database, you would have to select what to play from the SlimServer/SqueezeBox interfaces but you could browse by the Music Label data. So if you really want to select what to play from Music Label, this is not a working solution. 3. If you are running Windows, you could install the Wave Input plugin in SlimServer. This will make it possible to play tracks in Music Label but SlimServer will pickup the audio from the sound card in the PC and transfer it to the SqueezeBox. I'm not sure how a low quality sound card in the PC will affect the sound quality from the SqueezeBox in a scenario like this. The advantage of this solution is that it wouldn't require any development work. I think this solution was mentioned earlier in the thread. Solution 1 and solution 2 is already today used by another external catalog software called MusicIP, so we know solutions using these concepts will work. It just requires some development to get it up and running. The iTunes integration in SlimServer is another example that uses the solution 2 concept, where the iTunes database is read from a SlimServer plugin. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39597 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
