[slim] Re: SB2 Cutting Out with SS 6.5.1
I am having the same problem with my SB2 and slimserver 6.5.1 I am not able to start my squeezebox from the player or web interface. -- SlimChances SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Cutting Out with SS 6.5.1
cumry;173294 Wrote: Hi there, I could not find a thread on this ... I was wondering if anybody could help me. Yesterday I updated to SS6.5.1 and updated my Squeezebox 3 as well, but now it does not seem to be working :-( The squeezebox cuts out after between 5 seconds and 3 mins or so. In fact it seems like the SB has a power shortage and restarts/reboots up completely. Anybody know why this may be? It was working fine with SS 6.5. And 6.5.1 is working fine via softsqueeze on the PC. I have not altered any setting at all. It is connected wirelessly and I am using Windows (XP) OS. Also I am a novice with both PCs and Slimserver! Many thanks! Leigh What version were you at previously? -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Cutting Out with SS 6.5.1
ceejay;173309 Wrote: What version were you at previously? I do believe it was actually 6.5. as I update evertyhing once it is released. -- cumry cumry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Cutting Out with SS 6.5.1
cumry;173313 Wrote: I do believe it was actually 6.5. as I update evertyhing once it is released. ok, that eliminates a few possibilities... Can you try it wired instead of wireless, just as an experiment? -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Cutting Out with SS 6.5.1
ceejay;173318 Wrote: ok, that eliminates a few possibilities... Can you try it wired instead of wireless, just as an experiment? OK will try that but it will take me some time to set up. I will let you know of the outcome. By the way, if it is important: the wireless signal is between 88-95% according to SB before cutting out. Many thanks, Leigh -- cumry cumry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
My initial point is getting lost: Electricity is an inefficient method of generating heat. Better to turn off devices and use fossil fuels, bio-fuels for heating. The point about Nuclear power and Hydro-electric being completely clean is incorrect when you consider the embodied energy in construction and decommisioing. Both methods may make electricity more efficiently then a power station (35% effieicent) but still better to turn off devices and not consider it a form of heating -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2. Remote storage QNAP(1.2.1)~(160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP R12 (Alpha) to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.36 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
If the point was to generate heat, I'd agree with you. But the point was, we keep these devices on for utility. They waste a certain amount of power when on standby. The claim was made that this isn't totally wasted, because it generates heat, so the waste is at least partially offset by lowered other heat costs. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden;172678 Wrote: If you are looking for a minimal power drain amplifier, get a Class-D amplifier. They are essentially switch-mode power supplies with the input signal as a reference and the output connected to a speaker. Efficiencies run as high as 90%. These are relatively new and not many are available I don't know if they are many available or not for general home use, but they are often used in high power car systems, and the fist comercially available one I saw actually being used was back in 1980 (27 years ago), so they are not all that new. But yes, they are extremely efficient. I always wanted to make one with a digital input directly controlling the PWM, thus elimination the need for a conventional D/A converter, but so far have been too lazy to do so. Tom -- st2lemans st2lemans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9539 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
This is all very humorous. Restrict your driving so that you use SIX gallons less gasoline (maybe, what ... 150 miles?), and you've saved enough energy to run your SqueezeBox full blast for a year. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ ~~~ SB3 (wired - 6.3.1) | Home-brew PC running XP Pro | DENON DRA-395 | PSB Stratus Bronze (2) | Outlaw Audio LFM-2 (1) | DIY Speaker Cables | Dayton Audio Interconnects jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
cparker;172543 Wrote: Hi Peter This is very interesting research. If other people have measuring devices, could I ask that they measure the usage of their amp and its make/model? I'm looking to replace my amp in the future and want to find the least power hungry one! I'll measure my amp and put the details in this thread just for interest :) Cheers Class D amplifiers tend to be more efficient by design. I suppose you could bring a Kill-a-Watt or Watts Up to a store and measure stuff. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
jonheal;172909 Wrote: This is all very humorous. Restrict your driving so that you use THREE gallons less gasoline (maybe, what ... 75 miles?), and you've saved enough energy to run your SqueezeBox full blast for a year. Plus you'll *feel* better if you walk to Starbucks. The humorous thing is people act like the two (walking and turning things off) are mutually exclusive. Turn the freakin' light off before you go! -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Our daughter has a curious one-way effect on instant-on televisions. She walks into a room, the TV comes on. The effect is not symettric, though - when she walks out of the room, the TV never goes off again. Drives me absolutely nuts. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Skunk;172965 Wrote: Plus you'll *feel* better if you walk to Starbucks. The humorous thing is people act like the two (walking and turning things off) are mutually exclusive. Turn the freakin' light off before you go! Tell 'em you want your coffee cold, too. That'll save a few extra watts! :-) -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ ~~~ SB3 (wired - 6.3.1) | Home-brew PC running XP Pro | DENON DRA-395 | PSB Stratus Bronze (2) | Outlaw Audio LFM-2 (1) | DIY Speaker Cables | Dayton Audio Interconnects jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
jonheal;173035 Wrote: Tell 'em you want your coffee cold, too. That'll save a few extra watts!:-) The expression that comes to mind over all this is penny-wise, pound-foolish. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
peterw;171382 Wrote: The lowest power draw was attained by having the Squeezebox idle (on or off, as long as it's not playing an audio stream) with the brightness set so the display was completely dark. This took 4 watts (US adapter, ~120v AC power, and yes, watts, not volt-amps). I tried disabling the wireless bridging and having the audio outputs disabled when the Squeezebox was off, but it still pulled 4 watts when idle and dark.-Peter Hi Peter This is very interesting research. If other people have measuring devices, could I ask that they measure the usage of their amp and its make/model? I'm looking to replace my amp in the future and want to find the least power hungry one! I'll measure my amp and put the details in this thread just for interest :) Cheers -- cparker cparker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2083 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Although my house has a number of devices which draw a small amount of power when on standby, the effect of these is to add a little bit of warmth to the house. If they weren't doing it then the heating system would have to do it. Ok, that only applies in the winter, but it does mean that 'wasted power' is only really wasted in the summer. I tried to measure the background consumption of the house, with everything off except those things that are generally on all the time (e.g cordless phones, network router, wireless burglar alarm system, a number of devices that are on standby like the SB). Counting and timing the fine graduations on the wheel in the meter unit suggested that the house was using 150 watts. That seems a bit high for 24x7, maybe the fridge or freezer kicked in for part of the time. -- karma mechanic karma mechanic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
cparker;172543 Wrote: This is very interesting research. If other people have measuring devices, could I ask that they measure the usage of their amp and its make/model? I'm looking to replace my amp in the future and want to find the least power hungry one! I'll measure my amp and put the details in this thread just for interest :) If you want to post data, I'd suggest using the Wiki, and I'd suggest only posting data about gear that's still available for sale. I wouldn't expect many contributions, though -- most people don't have the means to measure real AC power usage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor). Most folks probably don't even have multimeters for measuring Volt-Amps, to say nothing of being comfortable rigging a multimeter into a live AC power line, or the fact that there are Slim Devices customers worldwide. I wouldn't worry too much, though. Every piece of regular electronic gear I've tested that was made in the last 4 years or so draws about 1 watt or less in off/standby mode (when off really means off, unlike the Squeezebox, etc.) -- everything from my 30 watt computer monitor to my 150 watt TV. IRBlaster should be great for such amps. Older gear isn't as efficient. My 20-year-old stereo receiver from a reputable company draws 7 watts in off/standby. My 6 year old computer speakers have an automatic standby feature, but they draw about the same power as the Squeezebox -- about 6 watts at normal listening levels when on, and still about 4 watts when the speakers slip into standby mode. This older gear begs for tools like AMPSwitch and BottleRocket (I think). -Peter -- peterw peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
If you are looking for a minimal power drain amplifier, get a Class-D amplifier. They are essentially switch-mode power supplies with the input signal as a reference and the output connected to a speaker. Efficiencies run as high as 90%. These are relatively new and not many are available, but more and more are coming out every year as engineers get comfortable with the designs and the cost of the parts continues to drop. Class A amplifiers are usually very large, heavy, VERY expensive, and waste huge amounts of power. Efficiency is no more than 50% maximum at full volume and they are much less efficient at lower volume levels. Class B and Class AB amps aren't too bad. They use little power at low volume levels so efficiency runs in the 50-70% range. Almost all commercial amps made in the last 30 years or so are Class B or AB. If you want to minimize power consumption, get a low powered amp. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden;172678 Wrote: If you are looking for a minimal power drain amplifier, get a Class-D amplifier. They are essentially switch-mode power supplies with the input signal as a reference and the output connected to a speaker. Efficiencies run as high as 90%. These are relatively new and not many are available, but more and more are coming out every year as engineers get comfortable with the designs and the cost of the parts continues to drop. As an aside, I understand most subwoofers employ Class-D amplifiers. My first subwoofer was not. It had a honking big heatsink which would get hot. My current one is MUCH more powerful, yet doesn't have a heatsink. I was concerned about this, but it doesn't even get warm during operation. This implies a lot less power wasted as heat. -- Mark Lanctot It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response. - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
In reference to Karma's post about heating. Electricity is a very inefficient form of heating. A fossile fuel power station is at best 35% efficient, then take into account power line losses and inefficiencies in the transformer. You are much better turning off the device and using raw fossil fuel for heating. I am posting in the UK and most houses use gas, even my 8 year olde non-condensing boiler is 75% efficient. -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2. Remote storage QNAP(1.2.1)~(160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP R12 (Alpha) to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.36 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Paul_B;172690 Wrote: In reference to Karma's post about heating. Electricity is a very inefficient form of heating. A fossile fuel power station is at best 35% efficient, then take into account power line losses and inefficiencies in the transformer. You are much better turning off the device and using raw fossil fuel for heating. I am posting in the UK and most houses use gas, even my 8 year olde non-condensing boiler is 75% efficient. However, electricity can be generated by nuclear power plants, which do not contribute to any increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Most electricity isn't nuclear, most power is fossil fuel. Also worth considering is the embodied energy in a nuclear power station. How much CO2 is release in the construction of the nuclear power station and how much CO2 is released during the decommisioning of a nuclear power station? Radioactive isotyopes have a very long half life and this should be taken into account when looking at power generated by a nuclear power station -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2. Remote storage QNAP(1.2.1)~(160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP R12 (Alpha) to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.36 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Mark Lanctot;172682 Wrote: My current one is MUCH more powerful, yet doesn't have a heatsink. I was concerned about this, but it doesn't even get warm during operation. This implies a lot less power wasted as heat. Class D amps were first applied to battery operated systems that needed maximum efficieny to extend battery life. Think hearing aids and cell phones. Subwoofers were next because the circuits available at the time didn't allow fast enough sampling to operate over the entire audio band, but they could make a decent bass amp that didn't require much of a heatsink, which is a large, expensive part. Now there are full audio bandwidth class D power amps available (TI and other make ICs, Tripath, modules, etc.). Expect to see more of them and fewer analog amps as time passes. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
(thread drift) I've seen numbers that suggest that devices on standby use a surprisingly high percentage of domestic power overall, just due to their prevalence and the total time they are running. Recent improvements seem to have driven the wattages much lower, but that's countered by all those where 'standby' is the only 'off'. Ideally such devices would be ideal candidates for a solar generator with battery backup. The house could use grid power when anything needed 'real' power, but that 'background level of usage that adds up to so much overall would be taken care of. Unfortunately systems aren't designed like that. -- karma mechanic karma mechanic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8868 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Paul_B;172729 Wrote: Most electricity isn't nuclear, most power is fossil fuel. This is highly dependent on where you live. Where I live: Ontario Power Generation operates 64 hydroelectric, 5 fossil and 3 nuclear stations producing more than 22,000 megawatts of much needed electricity. In 2005, approximately 71% of OPG's electricity production was derived from hydroelectric and nuclear sources -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
snarlydwarf;171772 Wrote: Hrrm.. is the server restarting perhaps? I don't know how to tell on Windows... assuming a fast enough machine and no slow-initializing-plugins it could be crashing and coming back quickly so you don't notice the crash. I would think the SB would black the display at some point when it lost connection, but, then, my startup time is sorta slow since I have tons of plugins to initialize... No, the sever is not restarting, it's been running happily on this PC for nearly 18 months with n problems... -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden;171762 Wrote: The power of the whole system is so low that it won't have any appreciable impact on your electric bill. If you pay $0.15/kW Hr, and the SB3 takes 6W, with power on at all times it will cost you about $0.15/week. That comes to $8 per year. Erm, coal is a non-renewable resource (which probably isn't a bad thing because burning it produces carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, and mercury compounds by the tons). A quick google yielded the approximation of one pound of coal per 1.25 kWh, which ~ a pound of coal burnt per week to run a Sb3. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
sc53;171895 Wrote: OK this is going to sound stupid, but my SB3 will often do what you are describing on internet radio stations and the only way to reconnect is to actually unplug the power cord from the back of the SB3, wait a few seconds and plug it back in. After it reboots, reconnects, etc. all is well. I know you've been doing diagnostics for days but did you try this? I've often un-plugged the power, if I then re-connect the power and connect to SqueezeNetwork before I connect to SlimServer I can listen to Radio 1 no problem, if I then dis-connect from SqueezeNetwork and connect to SlimServer I get the silent treament from SB2, if I then connect back to SqueezeNetowrk I also get the silent treament from their too ! The plot thickens, I've even tried upgrading to 6.5.1 the same happens - VERSION INFO SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11207 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Server IP address: 172.10.10.2 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
I've turned d_source debugging on and all I see is this - songTime: rate:1 -songtime:0 -startStream:0 00:04:20:05:b8:bf: Switching to mode play from stop openSong on: file:mrps_disk1/Music_Files/Aerosmith/Devils%20Got%20A%20New%20Disguise%20(The%20Very%20Best%20Of)/01%20Dream%20On.mp3 openSong: duration: [266.371] size: [6392894] endian [] offset: [49922] for file:mrps_disk1/Music_Files/Aerosmith/Devils%20Got%20A%20New%20Disguise%20(The%20Very%20Best%20Of)/01%20Dream%20On.mp3 undermax = 1, type = mp3, squeezebox2 = 00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-wma-*-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-wma-squeezebox2-* checking formats for: mp3-wma-*-* checking formats for: mp3-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-ogg-squeezebox2-* checking formats for: mp3-ogg-*-* checking formats for: mp3-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-flc-*-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-flc-squeezebox2-* checking formats for: mp3-flc-*-* checking formats for: mp3-aif-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-aif-*-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-aif-squeezebox2-* checking formats for: mp3-aif-*-* checking formats for: mp3-wav-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-wav-*-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-wav-squeezebox2-* checking formats for: mp3-wav-*-* checking formats for: mp3-mp3-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-mp3-*-00:04:20:05:b8:bf checking formats for: mp3-mp3-squeezebox2-* checking formats for: mp3-mp3-*-* Checking to see if mp3-mp3-*-* is enabled enabled Found command: - Matched Format: mp3 Type: mp3 Command: - openSong: this is an mp3 file: file:mrps_disk1/Music_Files/Aerosmith/Devils%20Got%20A%20New%20Disguise%20(The%20Very%20Best%20Of)/01%20Dream%20On.mp3 file type: mp3 format: mp3 inrate: 192 maxRate: 0 command: - openSong: opening file \\mrps_disk1\Music_Files\Aerosmith\Devils Got A New Disguise (The Very Best Of)\01 Dream On.mp3 openSong: seeking in 49922 into \\mrps_disk1\Music_Files\Aerosmith\Devils Got A New Disguise (The Very Best Of)\01 Dream On.mp3 MP3 file was not encoded with LAME, will not play back gapless openSong: Streaming with format: mp3 00:04:20:05:b8:bf New play mode: play 00:04:20:05:b8:bf: Current playmode: play We need to send 0 seconds of silence... sending 0 bytes of silence But nothing on the SB2 apart from the '-' in the 'Now Playing' on the SB2 -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
MrP;171826 Wrote: No, the sever is not restarting, it's been running happily on this PC for nearly 18 months with n problems... Hmmm, after a chat with Slim tech support the advice was that 'something' on the PC was blocking ports, advised to uninstall McAfee (damn program) and re-install SlimServer, guess what, all is working as before. What I don't understand is why it just started doing this after so long of working with no hicups! Oh well, PC's, eh what would we do without them ;-) -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Skunk;171827 Wrote: A quick google yielded the approximation of one pound of coal per 1.25 kWh, which ~ a pound of coal burnt per week to run a Sb3. A pound of coal per week to run the SB3, or a pound of coal per hour to run your big screen TV, or 5 gallons of gasoline per hour to power your SUV down the road- it's all relative. If you worry about saving energy/CO2/whatever, put your effort into the things that pay off big, not the things that save 1 pound of coal per week. Once the other wastes have been pared down to where burning a pound of coal per week to run your squeezebox has become a big deal, then start working on it. Your server that drives the SB causes the burning of a lot more coal than the SB3. Maybe you should shut the whole system off and not use it. After all, why should the rest of us have to breathe the air polluted by the coal burned to power YOUR audio system (or YOUR SUV, or your whatever)? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden;172102 Wrote: Your server that drives the SB causes the burning of a lot more coal than the SB3. Maybe you should shut the whole system off and not use it. My computer is sometimes used to stress the importance of energy conservation, so that would have a negative impact actually. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
As they used to tell us in grade school, when you point your finger at someone else, you point three back at yourself. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden;172167 Wrote: As they used to tell us in grade school, when you point your finger at someone else, you point three back at yourself. TD No need to get hoity toity and flaunt your education. The ratio I quoted was taken from a teacher's program for grade school students, which required figuring how much coal is used by a standard incandascent bulb iirc. Don't they also teach kids these days that no effort is too small, everyone can make a difference etc.? I'm not trying to get personal, but I've been to your site and seen the bug magnifier you made w/ your son. Discovering bugs is great, but goes hand in hand w/ conservationism. Honestly I would think having a way to make turning out the lights when you leave the room scientifically interesting to a kid would be every parents dream. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Skunk;172172 Wrote: As they used to tell us in grade school... No need to get hoity toity and flaunt your education. What? Cause he finished grade school? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
JJZolx;172178 Wrote: What? Cause he finished grade school? Indeed, a luxury in some parts of the world/US. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
While it is true that every little bit helps, not every little bit is significant, and it is wrong to teach that it is. If you focus people of fixing the 5 watt Squeezebox power waste problem, they start feeling more comfortable about driving a Hummer, because they feel they have done their part. The focus and effort needs to be placed where it will do the most good, not where it will make people feel good about doing something/anything. Fixing big problems takes more effort and the gratification isn't instantaneous like unplugging your SB and getting a warm fuzzy feeling that you are doing your part to save the world. Hard work and sustained effort are the only things that will solve the real problems and it will take a long time. Being taught that every little bit helps is NOT helping fix the problem. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden;172183 Wrote: While it is true that every little bit helps, not every little bit is significant, and it is wrong to teach that it is. Not if you live off-the-grid, but I see your point. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Interesting results and good point by Robin. I wonder how much the SB actually draws when it is off as opposed to how much power the transformer is taking? -- Paul_B Paul ~ Slimserver 6.5.1 on EPIA VIA EN15000 Mini-ITX running Windows 2003 R2. Remote storage QNAP(1.2.1)~(160GB Maxtor) SB3 (x1) RIP - dBpowerAMP R12 (Alpha) to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.36 ~ Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
Just an update on this, I've tried pressing the power button and pressing 3, an annoying tone can be heard for ages until I power the unit off, I've also tried programming xilinx by pressing 1. Still no sound from the SB2 :-( -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
That the spectrum analyzer shows a flatline would imply that it isnt the audio output... I would suspect something like a firewall on your server. If the SB can't connect to grab the music stream it will do something like what you describe: the server -thinks- the SB is playing but the SB knows better (but since the display comes from the server... it can't say anything different). Can you turn off your firewall for a bit and see if that fixes it? -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
If the test tone plays then your hardware is OK. Look for a firewall issue, or perhaps something on the server side that is preventing it from opening files or something. Also try SqueezeNetwork. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
snarlydwarf;171672 Wrote: That the spectrum analyzer shows a flatline would imply that it isnt the audio output... I would suspect something like a firewall on your server. If the SB can't connect to grab the music stream it will do something like what you describe: the server -thinks- the SB is playing but the SB knows better (but since the display comes from the server... it can't say anything different). Can you turn off your firewall for a bit and see if that fixes it? Firewall is turned off and still the same, my network setup hasn't changed for months and everything worked fine yesterday -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
seanadams;171682 Wrote: If the test tone plays then your hardware is OK. Look for a firewall issue, or perhaps something on the server side that is preventing it from opening files or something. Also try SqueezeNetwork. All firewalls disabled and still no good, I'm hardwired in now and the SB2 cannot connect to SqueezeNetwork, it tries then just goes blank and turns off! -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
MrP;171687 Wrote: All firewalls disabled and still no good, I'm hardwired in now and the SB2 cannot connect to SqueezeNetwork, it tries then just goes blank and turns off! I think I've got gremlins, I can now connect to SqueezeNetwork and all is well, now I'll try connecting to my server Connected to my server and it's silent again, argh! Connected back to SqueezeNetwork and silence again..! :-( -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
Have you tried rebooting your router? My cheapo Belkin does something like that every month or two, just stops routing things it doesn't feel like routing. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
snarlydwarf;171694 Wrote: Have you tried rebooting your router? My cheapo Belkin does something like that every month or two, just stops routing things it doesn't feel like routing. Tried everything now, rebooting router, rebooting PC, leaving everything powered off for 30 mins or so still silence Any other ideas,anybody? -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
When a song is 'Now Playing' in the Fishbone skin the duration bar only ever gets about 1/8 of the way across then restarts from the begining again -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
It seems that if I do a factory reset connect to SqueezeNetwork (Radio 1) first not SlimServer it works fine but, as soon as I connect to SlimServer the silence returns... Is there any debug I can turn on that might help? -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Well, there you go then- measure the power using the power meter (probably innaccurate at such low power levels), then measure the DC power by measuring current and calculating. The difference is the power dissipated by the power supply. The power of the whole system is so low that it won't have any appreciable impact on your electric bill. If you pay $0.15/kW Hr, and the SB3 takes 6W, with power on at all times it will cost you about $0.15/week. That comes to $8 per year. The reason you'd really want to measure the power is to do something like select a right-size battery to operate it, which is why I suggested measuring the current instead. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 gone silent
MrP;171739 Wrote: When a song is 'Now Playing' in the Fishbone skin the duration bar only ever gets about 1/8 of the way across then restarts from the begining again Hrrm.. is the server restarting perhaps? I don't know how to tell on Windows... assuming a fast enough machine and no slow-initializing-plugins it could be crashing and coming back quickly so you don't notice the crash. I would think the SB would black the display at some point when it lost connection, but, then, my startup time is sorta slow since I have tons of plugins to initialize... -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
Measuring the DC current into the SB would be a better way to measure power. Power = V * A (for DC). This can be done accurately with any multimeter that has a current mode. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31789 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2/3 power usage: 4-6 watts; display on/off is biggest factor
tyler_durden wrote: Measuring the DC current into the SB would be a better way to measure power. Power = V * A (for DC). That wouldn't measure any power used by the power supply itself (ever wondered where that heat comes from?) R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
Kyle;170347 Wrote: My SB3's mac address got changed for some unknown reason (power surge, probably), and I spent much of a day trying to figure out why it would not connect to the network. I finally discovered the mac address did not match the address on the bottom of the machine. A quick change of mac address and I was back in business. I checked the MAC address in current settings and it matches the MAC address on the bottom of the SB. Thanks -- RL boy RL boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
Not sounding too good then. Have you tried a hard reset of the box? Press and hold 1 while cycling power will reprogam the xilinx in the box. Less drastic than... Press and hold add while cycling power will do a factory reset of the box. (this will erase all current settings) If these don't work and you are feeling brave you could open up the box and see if the wireless module has become loose inside. HTH -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
ceejay;170396 Wrote: Not sounding too good then. Have you tried a hard reset of the box? Press and hold 1 while cycling power will reprogam the xilinx in the box. Less drastic than... Press and hold add while cycling power will do a factory reset of the box. (this will erase all current settings) If these don't work and you are feeling brave you could open up the box and see if the wireless module has become loose inside. HTH Can you elaborate on these instructions? I tried pressing 1 and the power button but nothing seems to happen. Thanks -- RL boy RL boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
Have you looked inside at the wireless module (IIRC its a distinct board that is plugged in - you could even swap it with your good unit to see if the fault follows the board. One fall back, instead of buying a new unit, might be to get a cheap Wireless repeater if you can find one... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
ceejay;170474 Wrote: Have you looked inside at the wireless module (IIRC its a distinct board that is plugged in - you could even swap it with your good unit to see if the fault follows the board. One fall back, instead of buying a new unit, might be to get a cheap Wireless repeater if you can find one... Ceejay I looked at the wireless card inside the SB and there is nothing loose. I don't really want to mess aroud with my working SB unless absolutley necessary. It looks like the card is caput, is there any possibility to get a replacement card? Thanks -- RL boy RL boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
Don't know, sounds like a question you should ask support... -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
I had a similar issue, perfectly working 2 box wireless setup suddenly started having networking issues. Turned out to be network interference, perhaps my neighbour got a wireless router or a new phone in the same spectrum. Anyway, I changed the channel of the router and things went back to normal and have worked since. Log on to your router, there should be an option somewhere to pick a channel. Try a different one and see what happens. -- sposthuma sposthuma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=982 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
sposthuma;170276 Wrote: I had a similar issue, perfectly working 2 box wireless setup suddenly started having networking issues. Turned out to be network interference, perhaps my neighbour got a wireless router or a new phone in the same spectrum. Anyway, I changed the channel of the router and things went back to normal and have worked since. Log on to your router, there should be an option somewhere to pick a channel. Try a different one and see what happens. I tried switching the channels but I still have the same problem. Thanks anyway -- RL boy RL boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
Amauta;169949 Wrote: Some times the MAC address can change. If you use MAC filtering on your wireless network you better check this first. hold the left button for a while - go to current settings - MAC address. Check if it's the same as writen on the bottom of your squeezebox. I hope this helps... I dont't have MAC filtering enabled. -- RL boy RL boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
RL boy;170314 Wrote: I dont't have MAC filtering enabled. Check that the MAC address is correct anyway. Steve. -- SteveEast SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
My SB3's mac address got changed for some unknown reason (power surge, probably), and I spent much of a day trying to figure out why it would not connect to the network. I finally discovered the mac address did not match the address on the bottom of the machine. A quick change of mac address and I was back in business. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Wireless stops working
Some times the MAC address can change. If you use MAC filtering on your wireless network you better check this first. hold the left button for a while - go to current settings - MAC address. Check if it's the same as writen on the bottom of your squeezebox. I hope this helps... -- Amauta Amauta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31610 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 not opening CUE files when browsing
I ended up going back to 6.3.1 which fixed the .cue problem. It has introduced some other inconveniences, but so far they seem workable. Finally. Whew. -- miklorsmith miklorsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4349 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 not opening CUE files when browsing
hi bowmore17, I use a single WAV and CUE file so I thought I'd give it a go. I can confirm there is a problem browsing folders using the remote and Transporter. The Transporter's display and remote function goes to lala land. The web interface works, well sort of, it seems to only play the first song, then stops. regards SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11013 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 -- Greg Erskine Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 not opening CUE files when browsing
I have a related problem. Getting flac files to play from the server is spotty and doesn't work at all from the player. .mp3 files work fine but I've loaded 6.5 and 6.5.1 with no solution. These are continuous files with .cue cutters. I get the following error message: Required binary was not found: [flac] -dcs --skip=$START$ --until=$END$ -- $FILE$ | [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ - - Slimdevices is (sort of) trying to help me with no solution yet. I'll post back if I hear anything productive. Mike -- miklorsmith miklorsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4349 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 not opening CUE files when browsing
I used to have a similar problem, but after having SlimServer rescan my music library, everything works fine... -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 not opening CUE files when browsing
Nobody has this problem with cd's encoded into single wav files? The browsing in server UI works fine, the browser in the player seems to be broken. -- bowmore17 bowmore17's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30038 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 keeps losing connection to server
New router and a factory reset on the SB2's fixed it. NM..I'm rocking again. -hal -- hal9000 hal9000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28076 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?
hey tommy... do you know the automated way to split 248 FLAC+Cuesheet albums into individual tracks? -- JayNYC JayNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?
JayNYC;139028 Wrote: hey tommy... do you know the automated way to split 248 FLAC+Cuesheet albums into individual tracks? If you're running windows I'm sure foobar will do it without too much trouble. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2 Remember Where It is?
That is only an option with 'Now Playing' :( -- earthbased I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. If I use Browse artists to find an artist then an album and play it, after 30 secs the screensaver (I use MusicInfo) cuts in, then if I use the left key I'm taken back to the album I originally chose. This behavior changes I think, when you've let the entire playlist finish, at which point I'm taken to the top level menu. This is how I like it to work since if the squeezebox has been dormant for a while I'm unlikely to want to go back to the previous menu position. Richard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Remember Where It is?
Try changing the screen savers to none, or at least away from Now Playing -- consciouspnm consciouspnm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Remember Where It is?
consciouspnm Wrote: Try changing the screen savers to none, or at least away from Now Playing I have my SB2 set to VU Meters for screensaver. It would be nice for the SB2 to go back to where it was from the screensaver. -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2 Remember Where It is?
I have my SB2 set to VU Meters for screensaver. It would be nice for the SB2 to go back to where it was from the screensaver. You might want to try Player Setting Plugins Jump Back On Wake Richard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Remember Where It is?
Richie Wrote: I have my SB2 set to VU Meters for screensaver. It would be nice for the SB2 to go back to where it was from the screensaver. You might want to try Player Setting Plugins Jump Back On Wake Richard That is only an option with 'Now Playing' :( -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Remember Where It is?
Here's one idea: instead of going back up, go right... if you have an album in your playlist, go right to a track, then right to the track details, down to the artist, right to a list of albums... (its easier than it sounds) HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?
Seems like you'd better split those FLAC's into individual tracks... -- tommypeters tommypeters's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6528 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?
Okay any update on the ETA to when we'll be able to Fast Forward Cue Sheeted Flacs? -- JayNYC JayNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2: Any difference between line out and headphones output?
I have found that even an inexpensive headphone amp ($200) from Headroom sounds considerably better than the headphone output on my SB3. Much lower noise floor, and better sound as well. FWIW, the Headroom amp also sounds better than the headphone output on my high end Yamaha receiver when plugged into the SB3. I should say that SD offered to help me troubleshoot the headphone jack issues, but it wasn't that important to me since the optical out sound to my receivers is fantastic and that is what I use 99% of the time. When I use headphones, I connect my Total Bithead amp to the line out connections on the SB3, and it sounds fantastic. -- Martin -- mschiff mschiff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4298 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 can not see my server
just upgraded to 6.3.1 server software..still no luck. -- hal9000 hal9000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 can not see my server
the xp firewall is disabled and yes the SB2s do get an ip address. I just uninstalled and reinstalled 6.3.1...it's reading my library right now...try again to connect once its finished. -- hal9000 hal9000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 can not see my server
OK, so next thing - can you ping the squeezeboxes from the server? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 can not see my server
No players show up in the server so I'm not sure how I can ping them. -- hal9000 hal9000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 can not see my server
hal9000 Wrote: Background: I had the slim server software running on a Linux machine that decided to die on me yesterday so I switched back to a XP computer I was previously using to run the server. None of my Squeezeboxes can see the server now. Sounds familiar. See: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3778 Try restarting SlimServer. Restart it a couple times if it doesn't happen on the first try. If it's anything like what I see on my network, then all of the Squeezeboxes will connect, or none of them will. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 can not see my server
hal9000 Wrote: No players show up in the server so I'm not sure how I can ping them. First question - whats the IP address you are getting on the SB? If its 169... then you don't have a useful address. If its 192.168 then thats good... ping it from your server by getting a windows command prompt and typing ping 192.xxx.xxx.xxx (whatever the address is). If you can't ping them (timeout response) then its not a slimserver problem, its a networking one (probably firewall). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 can not see my server
Hey guys..thanks for the responses. I was able to get my linux box back up so I'm good now. Been a long day but I sure am glad to have my SB2s up and running right again. Never did get the xp machine to work. -- hal9000 hal9000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=983 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25709 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Freeze after 6.2.2 Upgrade
FIXED! The problem was solved after I emailed support, this was the suggested fix and it worked - It sounds like you may be running into a version conflict between your old and new Slimservers. Try the following: * Uninstall Slimserver from the Add/Remove Programs box in Control Panels * Delete the install folder (default is C:\Program Files\Slimserver) * Reboot your computer Next... * Install Slimserver 6.2.2 from: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/SlimServer_v6.2.2/ * Next, using a spare network cable, please hard-wire your Squeezebox to your router, and go through the connection process for ethernet network from the remote control. (do not select Connect to a wireless network) * Next it will ask you to hold the brightness button to update the firmware. Once the firmware update is complete the Squeezebox will reboot. * Finally, disconnect the cable, and follow the wireless connection process one more time. Lastly... * In Slimserver under Server Settings, make sure your music folder is set correctly and click Change (if you're using iTunes, leave this blank) * Scroll down to Rescan Music Library, set it to Clear library and rescan everything and click Rescan Thanks to Daniel Evans at Slim for the above -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23397 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Freeze after 6.2.2 Upgrade
Using 6.2.2 and F/W 48 my SB3 constantly seems to drop off, the music stops and the display goes blank. When I try to wake it up it says waking up slimserver but often doesnt connect. Sometimes if I ping the SB3 from the slimserver it all wakes up and works again at the first ping, but often not. I just have to wait. Very frustrating. I never had this problem before upgrading from 6.2.1, the first version I used. My gut feeling it is not the SB but slimserver. Often when I shutdown my PC I get an application error - slim.exe which I have to acknowledge before windows will shut down. Can anyone help? Tech support couldn't really shed any light. -- matt24 matt24's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5190 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23397 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!
Sorry for the delay... After talks direct with Slimdevices technical support, they determined that my machine was dead and needed replacing/repairing depending on warranty. Fortunately, the place I'd purchased from in the UK didn't dispatch my unit until mid June '05, putting it still within its 1 year warranty. I couriered the unit back, they determined first hand that the unit was faulty and offered a replacement UNFORTUNATELY, the Squeezebox 2 is no longer available, so my only choice would be a SB3. Wasn't best pleased with this, since I much prefer the SB2. In addition to this, the SB3 is more expensive, albeit almost identical but for casing, as far as I'm aware. Therefore, my only option to resolve a faulty unit is to have it sent back, then pay more money for a replacement unit that I don't really like so much in a colour different to the old one. I'm either going to have to rearrange stuff to fit it in, or sell it on, since right now I'm not best pleased. Maybe it's just unfortunate, but it still gripes initially. One of the deciding factors originally was the design and integration with an existing setup. Bah! -- Cessquill Cessquill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=330 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24195 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!
In addition to this, the SB3 is more expensive, albeit almost identical but for casing, as far as I'm aware. Therefore, my only option to resolve a faulty unit is to have it sent back, then pay more money for a replacement unit that I don't really like so much in a colour different to the old one. I'm either going to have to rearrange stuff to fit it in, or sell it on, since right now I'm not best pleased. It's a shame that an SB3 wouldn't fit in your setup as I think you'd like it. However, if it has genuinely failed under warranty you really don't have to pay extra now that the SB2 has been superceded with the SB3. Your supplier should either offer you a free upgrade or your money back. As a consumer in the UK you have rights, unfortunately a lot of shops try to avoid their obligations to save money. Richard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!
I have just experienced the exact same issue: Left SB2 off while I was on a 2 week business trip (left it unplugged actually), just went to plug it in and nothing. No screen, no scrolling, no finding the network, cannot see it as a player in Slimserver...just a small red light that can be seen through the optical port in the back. Has there been any resolve or update to the OP on this issue? Peter -- ob_kook ob_kook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24195 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 and WPA with Draytek routers
Just got my SB3 today and had a few difficulties connecting to my draytek 2600g. However Upgraded firmware on it, and now works on WPA2 like a charm. The above issues might have been solved, but thought I'dd add the post in case (like me) you were trying to work out if it was compatible! Anyone know the link to the router info page? Will add an info line for this router there. -- urbanshepherd urbanshepherd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5744 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 and WPA with Draytek routers
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RouterStatus Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22135 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Freeze after 6.2.2 Upgrade
It seems that if I use any fimrware after 28 I see this problem! SB2 plays one song then the display just freezes, can't do anything using remote (other than turn it off) or via web interface. -- MrP MrP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23397 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!
Is it just the screen that is completely blank, or can you not connect via the web interface and play music at all ? First suggestion to rule out just screen blankage: Press the brightness button on the remote a couple of times - it could be that SB is on and functioning but the brightness has been set to 0. If not, a few more details of your setup please ? OS / version slimserver / how is it connected to your network ? If you unplug and plug the power back in, does the SB default to network set up or does nothing happen ? What about a hard reset - (unplug and replug power supply all the while holding down the Add button) but you will lose your settings with this. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24195 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!
Siduhe Wrote: Is it just the screen that is completely blank, or can you not connect via the web interface and play music at all ? I will try that when I get home, but other options not looking good. Siduhe Wrote: First suggestion to rule out just screen blankage: Press the brightness button on the remote a couple of times - it could be that SB is on and functioning but the brightness has been set to 0. Nothing going from that Siduhe Wrote: If not, a few more details of your setup please ? OS / version slimserver / how is it connected to your network ? Windows XP SP2, Slimserver running 6.2.2 - 7135 (although I think I was running previous full release when it went down), it's connected via wireless Siduhe Wrote: If you unplug and plug the power back in, does the SB default to network set up or does nothing happen ? Nothing. Not even the splash screen scrolling across. Siduhe Wrote: What about a hard reset - (unplug and replug power supply all the while holding down the Add button) but you will lose your settings with this. Tried that just now - nothing. (also changed batteries in remote) Not looking good here... -- Cessquill Cessquill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=330 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24195 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 Dead - HELP!
I agree, not good. Support[at]slimdevices.com may be a good idea. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24195 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
