Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
It's been a while, just thought I'd report back.. Seems that the problem with Firefox on my set up was Flashblock - much quicker once localhost and 127.0.0.1 are added to Flashblock's white list. Still a bit slower than 6.5.5, but that's to be expected. -- ShadowWar ShadowWar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
I've been using it under Windows Vista platform for about 8 weeks now and have upgraded it occasionally with the 'daily'. It has worked 100% once running and the Squeezebox playing has been fine. Only one issue I have had is that I had to figure out it is best to login as the admin account rather than the user account (even if the user account is admin equivalent) and there is a programme to configure this. Then occasionally on a reboot it forgets this infroamtion and won't load so you have to run the config program and select the admin user. I've also got Superdatetime plugin on it and have tried one or two others that have had Version 7 compatibility released. All worked fine. -- heyho heyho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
jfo;259601 Wrote: I thought I would try SC7 after reading it was quite stable, but didn't have success. It installed fine, but ran very, very slowly. For example, it took a long time to load the album screen(with art) and then would take 10-12 seconds to select an individual album. It would max out the CPU as soon as I tried to select something. It's a fairly new P4, 3.4G machine with WindowsXP Pro. The only plugin is Alien BBC I couldn't figure out the logs, so decided to switch back to 6.5, which has run flawlessly for me since it was introduced. Unfortunately my preferences were lost in the process...not a big deal but annoying. It looks nice, but I'm happy to wait until it's released. Cheers, Jim Jim, I've got definite speed problems as well, but only on the new interface. Switch to classic and it's fine. PC's quite old (AMD 2.7GHz, 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro SP2) but doesn't have too many speed problems otherwise. I was playing back an album encoded with FLAC on my SB3 the other night and started to Firefox to browse SqueezeCenter - instantly playback became choppy and was so bad that it pretty much paused until after SqueezeCenter had finished displaying the graphics. The interface takes between 1 and 2 minutes to start and then maybe 30s to 1 min to display anything whenever I click a link. I'm running this on localhost, port 9000 (i.e. nothing strange). The build of SC's from about a week or ten days ago. One possibility I'm yet to test is another browser, or disabling ZoneAlarm in case that's causing problems. Both Firefox and the SlimServer EXE file (slim.exe?) run at high CPU for the time that the browser is loading each page. Can anyone comment please? Mike -- ShadowWar ShadowWar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
takes between 1 and 2 minutes to start and then maybe 30s to 1 min to display anything whenever I click a link. Your machine is much stronger than what I'm using at home (server Via C3/1GHz, client Pentium-M 1.4GHz). But I can't confirm this. Are you using Firebug or any other browser add-on by chance? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
I've reported this a few times now and it's still the case. When the Default skin is shown in Firefox, it uses 100% CPU time. When it's loaded but not the visible tab, CPU usage drops to 0%. I do not have Firebug installed. It's making the new interface unusable for me, and these reports are clearly becoming more frequent as more users move to 7.0. Once again, is there anything I can do to help diagnose this issue? James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
ShadowWar;259656 Wrote: Jim, I've got definite speed problems as well, but only on the new interface. Switch to classic and it's fine. PC's quite old (AMD 2.7GHz, 1GB RAM, Win XP Pro SP2) but doesn't have too many speed problems otherwise. I was playing back an album encoded with FLAC on my SB3 the other night and started to Firefox to browse SqueezeCenter - instantly playback became choppy and was so bad that it pretty much paused until after SqueezeCenter had finished displaying the graphics. The interface takes between 1 and 2 minutes to start and then maybe 30s to 1 min to display anything whenever I click a link. I'm running this on localhost, port 9000 (i.e. nothing strange). The build of SC's from about a week or ten days ago. One possibility I'm yet to test is another browser, or disabling ZoneAlarm in case that's causing problems. Both Firefox and the SlimServer EXE file (slim.exe?) run at high CPU for the time that the browser is loading each page. Can anyone comment please? Mike I'll have a go on my setup. I've only got a 3ghz AMD processor with 1.5GB RAM running Vista so nothing spectacular. Saying that I only stream MP3 but have never noticed any problems even if I remote connect to Squeezecentre (although the CPU does get high utilization but that is not uncommon). I'm using Kaspersky suite for firewall, a/v etc. I'm on port 9009 only because of firewall restriction on 9000 at work and even this remote connection is good at loading/managing. -- heyho heyho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
heyho;259660 Wrote: I'm using Kaspersky suite for firewall, a/v etc. I've got the current(ish) release of the free ZoneAlarm and AVG's free scanner. Hell, I sound really cheap, don't I?! Mike -- ShadowWar ShadowWar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8102 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Michael Herger;259661 Wrote: takes between 1 and 2 minutes to start and then maybe 30s to 1 min to display anything whenever I click a link. Your machine is much stronger than what I'm using at home (server Via C3/1GHz, client Pentium-M 1.4GHz). But I can't confirm this. I don't think you can compare the two. Note that he's running both the server and the browser on the same machine. A MS desktop OS will favor foreground applications with user interactivity over background processes, so a CPU hungry browser interface will starve the server. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
That's no problem as long as we're not talking about _minutes_ (or 20 seconds for that matter). Any program will take all the resource it can get to get its job done the fastest possible. The issue is the duration of the process, not the spike. The first time loading of the page is slow, I have to admit. But once it's loaded, it's imho much more responsive as the others, as most of the controls are done without page reloads. Sorry perhaps I wasn't clear. When the Default interface is shown, Firefox uses 100% cpu time *all the time* - not just when it's loading. (Although it does take over 40 seconds to load from scratch - Classic takes under 5 seconds). Because I run SqueezeCentre on the same machine, this means that the performance of SqueezeCentre is seriously impacted. If I click on a track to play it, it can take 30 seconds to start playing. But if I click on a track, then move another tab to the front of Firefox, the track starts playing immediately because Firefox isn't hogging all my CPU time! James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
I've reported this a few times now and it's still the case. When the Default skin is shown in Firefox, it uses 100% CPU time. That's no problem as long as we're not talking about _minutes_ (or 20 seconds for that matter). Any program will take all the resource it can get to get its job done the fastest possible. The issue is the duration of the process, not the spike. The first time loading of the page is slow, I have to admit. But once it's loaded, it's imho much more responsive as the others, as most of the controls are done without page reloads. It's making the new interface unusable for me, and these reports are clearly becoming more frequent as more users move to 7.0. There's even a bug open about this (6625). But I am as much surprised as the bug reporter that this hasn't been brought up as a killer problem before. But then I don't see it, even on my low power hardware I'm using at home. As I wrote in a comment to that bug I clearly see the problem when eg. displaying a page with 200 items. But with the 50 I'm using (might be the default value) it's just not that much of an issue. Oh, I checked in a change which (according to Firebug) lowers eg. the load for highlighting items by about 35%. Please give it a try. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Michael Herger;259670 Wrote: There's even a bug open about this (6625). But I am as much surprised as the bug reporter that this hasn't been brought up as a killer problem before. I think beta testers tend to lean much more to the geek side of the spectrum, so are likely to have both a dedicated server and more poweful desktop systems. As I wrote in a comment to that bug I clearly see the problem when eg. displaying a page with 200 items. But with the 50 I'm using (might be the default value) it's just not that much of an issue. Not with how the pagination is done. I have my items per page set to 50 as well, but when browsing albums some pages display as many as 150 items due to pages breaking only between letters. The larger the library, the more this happens. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
The only addon I have installed is Adblock. Adblock or Adblock plus? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
When the Default interface is shown, Firefox uses 100% cpu time *all the time* - not just when it's loading. Now that's news to me. I use to have the skin open in FF, Opera and Safari|IE (depending on what system I'm working with) at the same time. Three of them, sometimes even more than one window per browser (settings, main, some of the left panels etc.). No problem at all. FF is running on my Windows box right now with a load of 5% when playing a random mix. And there are two other tabs open which do background updates as well (web based chat, campfire). (Although it does take over 40 seconds to load from scratch - Classic takes under 5 seconds). Camino (FF derivate on Mac) is up and running in 10 seconds. FF with Firebug is a known pain. But it still takes no longer than about 15 seconds to fully load the main page from scratch. Are those 40 seconds including loading the browser? Or just the web interface, after the browser's already open? Please don't get me wrong, but 100% load without any activity must be caused by something else on your system. We'd really need some more information about your system. Do you have any other FF add-ons installed? Or some security tool which is scanning the JS code? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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40 seconds is just to load the Default web page - not to load Firefox! The only addon I have installed is Adblock. I only get this problem with the Default skin, nothing else. James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Ooh not sure. I'll have to check - are there any known issues with either? No. Just tested both. No problem :-/. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Ooh not sure. I'll have to check - are there any known issues with either? James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Hmmm. Turns out my problem *was* caused by Adblock! Disabling it removed the CPU usage. I've installed Adblock Plus, which was the same to start with (maybe a little faster) but with an exclusion on http://localhost:9000 the issue is gone! To think I was starting to consider using ie again... James -- James James's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=189 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Turns out my problem *was* caused by Adblock! Thanks for the feedback! Good to know we're not that awfully slow after all... Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install because the package name changed. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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snarlydwarf wrote: With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install because the package name changed. Thanks for this. Of course, on Debian 'uninstall' is not so simple. Just doing aptitude remove slimserver will leave the configuration files; is this OK? Or do you need to get rid of the config files, too, with aptitude purge slimserver, and start completely from scratch? (Commands prefaced with 'sudo' for Ubuntu users.) TIA ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Diana Artemis wrote: snarlydwarf wrote: With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install because the package name changed. Thanks for this. Of course, on Debian 'uninstall' is not so simple. Just doing aptitude remove slimserver will leave the configuration files; is this OK? Or do you need to get rid of the config files, too, with aptitude purge slimserver, and start completely from scratch? (Commands prefaced with 'sudo' for Ubuntu users.) So there's no transition package? - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Diana Artemis;259199 Wrote: snarlydwarf wrote: With debian, yes, you should do an uninstall and then an install because the package name changed. Thanks for this. Of course, on Debian 'uninstall' is not so simple. Just doing aptitude remove slimserver will leave the configuration files; is this OK? Or do you need to get rid of the config files, too, with aptitude purge slimserver, and start completely from scratch? (Commands prefaced with 'sudo' for Ubuntu users.) TIA My upgrade was relatively smooth. I renamed the old directory (/usr/share/slimserver/) after the update to squeezecenter. I updated the wiki. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DebianPackage -- bobharp Bob Harper bobharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
bobharp wrote: My upgrade was relatively smooth. I renamed the old directory (/usr/share/slimserver/) after the update to squeezecenter. I updated the wiki. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DebianPackage Presumably you added the bits at the end about having to do more than just the basic apt-get from the repository in the form of having to install libexpat1-dev separately, having to configure perl manually, etc? Is it reasonable to suppose that this is a temporary fix, and will not be necessary for installing the final release? ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Diana Artemis;259374 Wrote: bobharp wrote: My upgrade was relatively smooth. I renamed the old directory (/usr/share/slimserver/) after the update to squeezecenter. I updated the wiki. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DebianPackage Presumably you added the bits at the end about having to do more than just the basic apt-get from the repository in the form of having to install libexpat1-dev separately, having to configure perl manually, etc? Is it reasonable to suppose that this is a temporary fix, and will not be necessary for installing the final release? I did not want to wipe that information out of the wiki page. I do not have the resources to test various debian distros. I am on Ubuntu 6.06. I just added: -or for the development release (currently SlimServer 7.0a1)- apt-get remove --purge slimserver apt-get update apt-get install squeezecenter I doubt that a purge is necessary. I did not have to configure perl or install libexpat1-dev. -- bobharp Bob Harper bobharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
bobharp wrote: I just added: -or for the development release (currently SlimServer 7.0a1)- apt-get remove --purge slimserver apt-get update apt-get install squeezecenter I doubt that a purge is necessary. I did not have to configure perl or install libexpat1-dev. That's good! And really simple. Thanks for the confirmation. [If the process is now that simple, I do hope there's some way of tidying up the wiki so that it's less confusing. I guess many of us have had the experience of being led astray by HowTos and wikis that haven't been cleaned up for years, and have layers of obsolete, misleading and conflicting instructions. They get to be like a fridge in a student house - everyone puts stuff in, but no one feels they can chuck rotting stuff out, 'cos it's not theirs! Are there wiki management rules about this? (Couldn't find any advice on this in the wiki! ;-) )] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Diana Artemis;259451 Wrote: That's good! And really simple. Thanks for the confirmation. [If the process is now that simple, I do hope there's some way of tidying up the wiki so that it's less confusing. I guess many of us have had the experience of being led astray by HowTos and wikis that haven't been cleaned up for years, and have layers of obsolete, misleading and conflicting instructions. They get to be like a fridge in a student house - everyone puts stuff in, but no one feels they can chuck rotting stuff out, 'cos it's not theirs! Are there wiki management rules about this? (Couldn't find any advice on this in the wiki! ;-) )] If someone makes a bad change to the Wiki, can it not be rolled back to the previous change? I amways thought this was one of the features of Wikis, they have a bhuilt in versiion management system. Or does that depend on the Wiki backend software? -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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funkstar wrote: If someone makes a bad change to the Wiki, can it not be rolled back to the previous change? I amways thought this was one of the features of Wikis, they have a bhuilt in versiion management system. Or does that depend on the Wiki backend software? The problem is not so much bad changes as once-correct material that has become obsolete. For all sorts of reasons (many of them genuine) they stay in the pages, undeleted, and lie in wait for the innocent and unwary. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
juniper;259529 Wrote: The more I follow the thread and also read comments in the Beta forum, the less I feel inclined to make the jump to Release 7.0 until it becomes official. There still seem to be too many unresolved BETA issues, that may be fun for techies to comment on and try to resolve but could be a nightmare for the less technically inclined. Well, it's pretty close to being released. If you feel that way, it might be advisable to wait until 7.0.1 or even 7.0.2. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
The more I follow the thread and also read comments in the Beta forum, the less I feel inclined to make the jump to Release 7.0 until it becomes official. There still seem to be too many unresolved BETA issues, that may be fun for techies to comment on and try to resolve but could be a nightmare for the less technically inclined. -- juniper SlimServer Version: 6.5.5 - 12638 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt juniper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Jim - I would like to take it asap. I then looked at the Beta forum and there seem to be problems with the most recent builds. I am happy to experiment and am not nervous of a certain degree of risk, but the comments seem to indicate more fundamental problems. -- juniper SlimServer Version: 6.5.5 - 12638 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt juniper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
I thought I would try SC7 after reading it was quite stable, but didn't have success. It installed fine, but ran very, very slowly. For example, it took a long time to load the album screen(with art) and then would take 10-12 seconds to select an individual album. It would max out the CPU as soon as I tried to select something. It's a fairly new P4, 3.4G machine with WindowsXP Pro. The only plugin is Alien BBC I couldn't figure out the logs, so decided to switch back to 6.5, which has run flawlessly for me since it was introduced. Unfortunately my preferences were lost in the process...not a big deal but annoying. It looks nice, but I'm happy to wait until it's released. Cheers, Jim -- jfo jfo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
juniper;259529 Wrote: The more I follow the thread and also read comments in the Beta forum, the less I feel inclined to make the jump to Release 7.0 until it becomes official. There still seem to be too many unresolved BETA issues, that may be fun for techies to comment on and try to resolve but could be a nightmare for the less technically inclined. Well, I'm not exactly a techie--especially in the world of *nix--but I've had very few problems with SqueezeCenter. To be fair, I'm not using a lot of plug-ins, so your mileage may vary, but I found it to be pretty painless. I use Ubuntu Gutsy (server mode) for my server. I did purge SlimServer 7.0a1 when we transitioned to SqueezeCenter and just reconfigured my preferences. On Dean's suggestion, I added a cron job to update to the nightly build at 3:00am every evening. It's been really quite stable for me. -= Jim -- JimC well, she wasn't all of that, but she sure was some of that. -- BKlaas' college buddy JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
I thought I would try SC7 after reading it was quite stable, but didn't have success. It installed fine, but ran very, very slowly. For example, it took a long time to load the album screen(with art) and then would take 10-12 seconds to select an individual album. It would What do you mean by selecting an individual album? Opening the album page? Playing that album? I definitely can't confirm this issue, running the server on a Via C3/1GHz, browsing on a Pentium-M 1.4GHz - far away from your specs. I doubt we will be able to fix your particular issue unless you help us find it. What you describe isn't a general problem. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
I read in this forum at the start of Dec that. the target date for an official 7.0 release was to be 5th Jan. That has come and gone. a)Is anybody able to explain in a nutshell the selling points of 7.0 over 6.5.4 please? b) When is the formal release now likely to be available to ordinary non techie users like my goodself? c) If still some time off - is there any point in downloading 7.0 beta - following on from a) and b). Thanks in anticipation -- juniper SlimServer Version: 6.5.5 - 12638 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt juniper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
juniper;258901 Wrote: a)Is anybody able to explain in a nutshell the selling points of 7.0 over 6.5.4 please? The official change log is here: http://svn.slimdevices.com/*checkout*/trunk/server/Changelog7.html?content-type=text/html One thing that currently isn't mentioned in the change log is that 7.0 is required if you like to use the newly announced SqueezeBox Duet/Receiver/Controller hardware. Different users will focus on different things in the changelog, so it is hard to tell exactly which ones that will make a difference to you. Some highlights: - Improved integration with SqueezeNetwork - Direct support for several music services such as MP3Tunes, Pandora and Rhapsody - New default skin for web interface (this makes a big difference if you use the web interface) - Support for new hardware SqueezeBox Duet/Receiver/Controller - Improved stability/robustness juniper;258901 Wrote: b) When is the formal release now likely to be available to ordinary non techie users like my goodself? It's required for the new hardware which I think should be available in the stores during January. So I would guess it will be officially released within the next 2 weeks. But this is just a guess, I have no other indication of the release date. juniper;258901 Wrote: c) If still some time off - is there any point in downloading 7.0 beta - following on from a) and b). It's currently pretty stable, so if you don't have any problem to upgrade again when the final version is released, I would recommend you to try it. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Erland -many thanks -that was a pretty good nutshell - I will give 7 a bash. Cheers -- juniper SlimServer Version: 6.5.5 - 12638 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt juniper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9807 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Is there a migration wizard, to report what plugins etc. you have with 6.5 and the 7.x equivalents? I'm reluctant to upgrade and go back to the standard set-up. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
No migration wizard as yet... I doubt very much if there will be one as the plugin/preferences architecture is so different. As far as I know it's not been mentioned anyway. The hard working Michael Herger is the chap who'll know for sure. At the moment you need to *completely* uninstall 6.*.* and all plugins/preferences etc and then install 7 and all the upgraded plugins. I thing not mentioned that 7 is good for is synchronisation. It doesn't drift anymore still get the track gaps in mix albums tho... which is a bummer. The web gui layout etc is a lot cleaner and more logical than previous versions. It's a great step up from 6. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Bryston 4B ST PMC OB1s SB3 NAIM NAC 102 + HICAP NAIM NAP 180 Shahinian Arcs http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
The hard working Michael Herger is the Oops... you've mentioned my name. Will have to answer. chap who'll know for sure. At the moment you need to *completely* uninstall 6.*.* and all plugins/preferences etc and then install 7 and all the upgraded plugins. It should not be necessary to uninstall _completely_. If you don't uninstall, the Windows installer will do it for you. But don't throw away your settings: they will be migrated. As for a migration wizard: no there's no such thing. Plugins will have to be updated. You best check with its author. Many of the most favorite plugins should be available for SC7 by now. Though many still wear some beta in their name. Mine do, just because SC7 is still beta too. But I'd assume they're running pretty well. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Michael Herger wrote: It should not be necessary to uninstall _completely_. If you don't uninstall, the Windows installer will do it for you. But don't throw away your settings: they will be migrated. What's the right procedure for debian-type distros? Do you need to uninstall before upgrade? ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Release 7.0 advantages? and when?
Diana Artemis;259087 Wrote: What's the right procedure for debian-type distros? Do you need to uninstall before upgrade? And specifically, the Ubuntu flavor of debian-type? Thanks! -- Balthazar_B Balthazar_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
