Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
garym wrote: > Hi, I just tried that link and it played on my Transporter Thanks. > showed 128kbps AAC stream In the web interface, it shows that it's being transcoded to FLAC, though, doesn't it? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
Hi, I just tried that link and it played on my Transporter (running LMS 8.1.2 on rPi). I did notice that everytime I stopped, then restarted the station, it would show about 3 seconds of nothing, then start over at 0. But when it started over, it played fine and showed 128kbps AAC stream. It also showed the artist and song title as metadata. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
Re-examining this... (I just gave up last year.) Here is the radio stream I'm trying to play on the Transporter, but get no audio. It shows about 3 seconds of progress in the web UI, then the counter resets to 0:00. Maybe someone else could try it? http://kuvo-ice.streamguys.org/kuvo-aac-128 Web page: 'KUVO 89.3 Denver' (https://www.kuvo.org/ways-to-listen/) It plays on my SB Radio, apparently natively. On the Transporter I see this info in the web interface: File Format: AAC Bitrate: 128kbps CBR (Converted to 705kbps FLAC) Sample Rate: 44.1 kHz URL: http://kuvo-ice.streamguys.org/kuvo-aac-128 I'm using the stock convert.conf and types.conf files, no changes to the streaming formats (shown in a previous post). Both faad.exe and flac.exe are in place and are the versions installed by LMS. I'm running LMS 8.2 beta, built May 30. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Heuer and slartibartfast, Got it! Thanks for the information... radish112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
bpa wrote: > Same here - Mono option doesn't show for SB receiver, Boom, Squeezelite > or DAC32. Perhaps it is Radio or Touch feature.The feature was added to > squeezelite fairly recently. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1011090 Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Here you go: Version 8.2.0 - 'Upstream fixes from Logitech Media Server 8.1.x' (http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/blob/public/8.2/Changelog8.html#v8.1.2) - New Features: - '#537' (https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/537) - Add audio option to combine channels to build a mono signal (whether player is synchronized or not). - '#538' (https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/538) - Add Balance setting for players which support it (thanks philippe44!). Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Mine shows mono option for DAC32, Boom, Transporter, Touch and Radio. Server version is 8.2 April 25, but it was there on earlier version. Running server on Win10 if that makes a difference. Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Doesn't show for my Squeezebox Radio; my Touch is out of commission (wouldn't relinquish its old IP Address, creating hassles with my mesh router) so I don't know if it would offer the option. radish112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
radish112 wrote: > Interesting...I've got a couple of players in addition to the DAC32, and > none of them show the Mono audio output. Same here - Mono option doesn't show for SB receiver, Boom, Squeezelite or DAC32. Perhaps it is Radio or Touch feature. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Interesting...I've got a couple of players in addition to the DAC32, and none of them show the Mono audio output. radish112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
radish112 wrote: > Heuer and bpa, > > Many thanks for you quick and helpful replies. > > Interestingly, my Audio>Output Channel Mode offers only: > Both Channels (Stereo) > Left Channel > Right Channel > > Is there anything I can do to "turn on" the Both Channels (Mono) option > so as to test it? > > I'm running LMS 8.2.0 if that matters LMS 8.1.2 - My DAC32 (v1.2.2) shows the same - no Mono option. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Heuer and bpa, Many thanks for you quick and helpful replies. Interestingly, my Audio>Output Channel Mode offers only: Both Channels (Stereo) Left Channel Right Channel Is there anything I can do to "turn on" the Both Channels (Mono) option so as to test it? I'm running LMS 8.2.0 if that matters radish112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
radish112 wrote: > Hi. > > I've got an old Tivoli Model One radio that, due to the geography of > where I live, gets very poor reception from AM and FM stations. So I'm > repurposing the radio to play tunes and radio stations from my LMS > library via my newly-purchased DAC32 streamer. > > The DAC32 streamer is connected to the radio's AUX IN socket via an RCA > to 3.5mm cable. The audio quality is pretty good given what this > mono-only radio is cable of. > > I have two questions: > > 1. Is there any reason why connecting the streamer to the radio is > inadvisable (I assume not, otherwise why would an RCA to 3.5mm cable > exist?) > > 2. Given that the radio can produce only mono output, do you have any > suggestions as to how I might improve the sound (e.g., LMS settings of > some sort)? > > Thanks for any help and advice! I have a Tivoli PAL and have been using a RCA to 3.5mm from a SB Receiver for many years with no problem. I don't use any Stereo/Mono setting and it sounds OK. The volume level of both SB player and Tivoli volume control might affect quality. I think the "best" level for each depend on which control you'll actually be varying - LMS player control or Tivol volume control bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Set the DAC32 (named Office in my case) to output Mono in LMS: [image: https://i.imgur.com/kZNDv5B.jpg] Prefectly reasonable to connect the DAC32 to your radio via the aux socket. Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming to an old Tivoli Model One radio...
Hi. I've got an old Tivoli Model One radio that, due to the geography of where I live, gets very poor reception from AM and FM stations. So I'm repurposing the radio to play tunes and radio stations from my LMS library via my newly-purchased DAC32 streamer. The DAC32 streamer is connected to the radio's AUX IN socket via an RCA to 3.5mm cable. The audio quality is pretty good given what this mono-only radio is cable of. I have two questions: 1. Is there any reason why connecting the streamer to the radio is inadvisable (I assume not, otherwise why would an RCA to 3.5mm cable exist?) 2. Given that the radio can produce only mono output, do you have any suggestions as to how I might improve the sound (e.g., LMS settings of some sort)? Thanks for any help and advice! radish112's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114473 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
d6jg wrote: > I do agree that 192 is out of human hearing range so its a moot point. > > Do you think the spec reported on the PolyVection website is misleading, > I do? I think it's fine as it says clearly that resampling is done, so IMHO it does not really matter where it happens. It's unambiguous that the actual audio is not played at 192kHz LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
philippe_44 wrote: > In 16 bits mode, squeezelite-esp32 supports 192/24 but samples are > truncated to 16. Ive never tested extensively but I think flac and pcm > work although the cpu really suffers. > > In 32 bits mode, which I added recently, Ive not tried 192/24 but in > their fork, PolyVection has probably limited the supported rates to 96 > and this is likely wise. I will try later today what happens with > 192/24 > > So, 192/24 in DAC32 as of today AFAIK means downsample in LMS to 96/24 > which is only puncturing. > > Last comment b/c I cant help it :) but 192 is useless (I wont say > anything on 24) so you losing nothing anyway. I hesitated to leave it in > squeezelite-esp32 but I did for the fun of testing the limit of the cpu. I do agree that 192 is out of human hearing range so its a moot point. Do you think the spec reported on the PolyVection website is misleading, I do? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
philippe_44 wrote: > In 16 bits mode, squeezelite-esp32 supports 192/24 but samples are > truncated to 16. Ive never tested extensively but I think flac and pcm > work although the cpu really suffers. > > In 32 bits mode, which I added recently, Ive not tried 192/24 but in > their fork, PolyVection has probably limited the supported rates to 96 > and this is likely wise. I will try later today what happens with > 192/24 > > So, 192/24 in DAC32 as of today AFAIK means downsample in LMS to 96/24 > which is only puncturing. > > Last comment b/c I cant help it :) but 192 is useless (I wont say > anything on 24) so you losing nothing anyway. I hesitated to leave it in > squeezelite-esp32 but I did for the fun of testing the limit of the cpu. Just did the test, I can confirm that 24/192 does not fly in 32 bits mode. I'll remove it in next release LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
d6jg wrote: > I do think it might be worth asking again as the specs very clearly > imply client side downsampling and PolyVections answer to my question > was by Bob. He might be wrong and the specs are right. In 16 bits mode, squeezelite-esp32 supports 192/24 but samples are truncated to 16. Ive never tested extensively but I think flac and pcm work although the cpu really suffers. In 32 bits mode, which I added recently, Ive not tried 192/24 but in their fork, PolyVection has probably limited the supported rates to 96 and this is likely wise. I will try later today what happens with 192/24 So, 192/24 in DAC32 as of today AFAIK means downsample in LMS to 96/24 which is only puncturing. Last comment b/c I cant help it :) but 192 is useless (I wont say anything on 24) so you losing nothing anyway. I hesitated to leave it in squeezelite-esp32 but I did for the fun of testing the limit of the cpu. LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
Heuer wrote: > Ahh, did not see that. I do think it might be worth asking again as the specs very clearly imply client side downsampling and PolyVections answer to my question was by Bob. He might be wrong and the specs are right. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
Ahh, did not see that. Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
Heuer wrote: > > > Supported Sample Rates > 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4 (automatic resampling to > 96 kHz), 192 kHz (automatic resampling to 96 kHz) @ 16 or 24 bit > > > > The DAC32 _supports_ 192/24 without needing LMS to transcode so if the > OP wants to play that file, or others, it will do so without problems. I specifically asked PolyVection in the DAC32 thread whether the downsampling was on the client as this is what is implied. They said down sampling by LMS. I think its misleading. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
Supported Sample Rates 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4 (automatic resampling to 96 kHz), 192 kHz (automatic resampling to 96 kHz) @ 16 or 24 bit The DAC32 _supports_ 192/24 without needing LMS to transcode so if the OP wants to play that file, or others, it will do so without problems. Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
Heuer wrote: > Or a DAC32. Its not 24/192 actually. Read the specs VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
Or a DAC32. Lounge: Transporter>Audio Synthesis DAX Decade>Audio Research LS22>Krell FPB300>Wilson Benesch Act 1's + 2 x Velodyne SPL1000 sub's Kitchen: SB3>Topping DAC>Arcam Solo>Anthony Gallo Micro's+Sub, Joggler controller Office: DAC32>Acoustic Energy AE1 Active's, Joggler controller Garage: Boom>QAcoustics 7000s subwoofer Bedroom: Radio Shed: Radio Workshop: Boom Garden 1: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Garden 2: SB3>JVC amp>Rock outdoor speakers Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
sfraser wrote: > Hi I have recently downloaded a Hi Rez Neil young album 24bit/192Khz > FLAC . When streaming to a Squeezebox 2 it does play but appears to have > buffering issues? Does not appear to be a local network issue, as my GE > LAN is running at service noise levels. . Is this to be expected with Hi > RES files on a SB2? Can I transcode at the server to a lower res just > for SB2's? . Server is 8.1.2 running on a TrueNAS jail with lots of > resources available? > > Thanks, > > Sfraser It is being transcoded by the server. Only your Pi3 is capable of playing 24/192 without transcoding. Most of your players are capable of 24/48 only. Not sure what the max is for an SB2. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
Hi I have recently downloaded a Hi Rez Neil young album 24bit/192Khz FLAC . When streaming to a Squeezebox 2 it does play but appears to have buffering issues? Does not appear to be a local network issue, as my GE LAN is running at service noise levels. . Is this to be expected with Hi RES files on a SB2? Can I transcode at the server to a lower res just for SB2's? . Server is 8.1.2 running on a TrueNAS jail with lots of resources available? Thanks, Sfraser 2 CHAN. SYSTEM SB3->Benchmark DAC-1-> Bryston(BP-25,3B)->PMC TB2 HOME THEATER SYSTEM SB2-> Bryston(SP1,4B,4B,2B,2B)-> PSB Stratus Goldi BASEMENT SYSTEM Pi3 w/7" screen>Outlaw 976 Bryston 3B ->Klipsch La Scala's, 2x Bryston 4B (mono) EV 18" subwoofers BEDROOM SYSTEM SB2-> Sony BoomBox REAR DECK/PATIO Duet-> Yamaha Reciever-> PSB Mini's, OFFICE Squeezebox Boom KITCHEN Squeeze Radio ENSUITE Squeeze Radio sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming problem
bpa wrote: > There are two stream in the playlist. The first is a 22.050kHz mono. > This is very low - if using an ALSA hw: device - can your DAC plays this > low ? Slow sampling also usually means slow startup Fixed the problem. The clue was when you mentioned hw:device. I changed the squeezelite setting to plughw: and that did the trick. The piCorePlayers have been set to hw: for ages, so I think KQED must have changed something about their stream that now requires plughw. Thanks for your help. AngloCuencano's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64040 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming problem
bpa wrote: > There are two stream in the playlist. The first is a 22.050kHz mono. > This is very low - if using an ALSA hw: device - can your DAC plays this > low ? Slow sampling also usually means slow startup Just tried through a Topping DX3PRO, audio output 32320 It took about 10 seconds for playback to be audible :) +---+ |Filename: setting.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32320| +---+ Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming problem
There are two stream in the playlist. The first is a 22.050kHz mono. This is very low - if using an ALSA hw: device - can your DAC plays this low ? Slow sampling also usually means slow startup bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming problem
I'm in the UK and your link plays on a Squeezebox Radio (with a little delay in starting) Code: [20-11-25 12:44:03.0985] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1266) Warning: [12:44:03.0980] Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/local/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/TimesRadio/TimesRadioAPI.pm line 124. [20-11-25 12:44:26.9929] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::_parseMPD_part2 (615) Pref used:Dashspeed_live pref value : 1 pref speeds: 1 Chosen rep id audio=32 Bandwidth = 32 Codecs = mp4a.40.2 [20-11-25 12:44:43.6525] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::_parseMPD_part2 (615) Pref used:Dashspeed_live pref value : 1 pref speeds: 1 Chosen rep id audio=32 Bandwidth = 32 Codecs = mp4a.40.2 [20-11-25 12:45:03.8141] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::_parseMPD_part2 (615) Pref used:Dashspeed_live pref value : 1 pref speeds: 1 Chosen rep id audio=32 Bandwidth = 32 Codecs = mp4a.40.2 [20-11-25 12:45:53.1318] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::_parseMPD_part2 (615) Pref used:Dashspeed_live pref value : 1 pref speeds: 1 Chosen rep id audio=32 Bandwidth = 32 Codecs = mp4a.40.2 [20-11-25 12:46:11.3694] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::_parseMPD_part2 (615) Pref used:Dashspeed_live pref value : 1 pref speeds: 1 Chosen rep id audio=32 Bandwidth = 32 Codecs = mp4a.40.2 Lms v 8.0.1 on rpi4b Perhap you could look in the server logs for a start LMS Settings > Information > scroll to the bottom Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming problem
For the past couple of days, I have had a problem streaming KQED from San Francisco: > http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s34804&formats=aac,ogg,mp3&partnerId=16&serial=e0d4fcd27e2805469abd8b7d50071ddb I have 3 picorePlayers, all running piCorePlayer v7.0.0b6, one uses a Pi A+ with analog output, and the other 2 use Pi Zeros with Pimoroni phatDACs (simple TI5102 DAC in squeezelite settings). Apart from the audio device setting, all 3 are set up the same. The stream plays on the A+ system, but not with the Pi Zeros. The only setting I can find that makes a difference is Player>Audio>Audio Startup Time. By default, this is set to 0, and there is no sound, but the playing time increments. If I set it to 0.25, there is a garbled sound output like chipmunks. It *feels* like this problem might be related to the latest LMS update I installed on the weekend, at least I only noticed this problem after the update. LMS information: Logitech Media Server Version: 8.0.0 - 1605892076 @ Fri Nov 20 21:29:02 CET 2020 Hostname: PI-SERVER Server IP Address: 192.168.xx.xx Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv7l-linux Perl Version: 5.28.1 - arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int Audio::Scan: 1.02 IO::Socket::SSL: 2.060 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) AngloCuencano's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64040 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113304 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
JJZolx wrote: > What are the default settings you have for AAC in Settings > Advanced > > File Types? This is what I have currently. The problem is either here or > (more likely) in my convert.conf. > > > Code: > > > File Format Stream Format Decoder > AAC AACNative > FLAC faad/flac > MP3faad/lame > PCMfaad > > # Since transcoding will use both faad and flac - Check that they work OK from a command line (i.e. no arguments - just see if banner messages appear) bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
JJZolx wrote: > What are the default settings you have for AAC in Settings > Advanced > > File Types? This is what I have currently. The problem is either here or > (more likely) in my convert.conf. > > > Code: > > > File Format Stream Format Decoder > AAC AACNative > FLAC faad/flac > MP3faad/lame > PCMfaad > > I have exactly the same *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
garym wrote: > makes sense. I've never changed my file type settings (all at default). > AAC files play fine on transporter. What are the default settings you have for AAC in Settings > Advanced > File Types? This is what I have currently. The problem is either here or (more likely) in my convert.conf. Code: File Format Stream Format Decoder AAC AACNative FLAC faad/flac MP3faad/lame PCMfaad JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
JJZolx wrote: > Thanks. > > Made no difference. > > But I examined the streaming codec of the stations and discovered that > they were all AAC. After trying a number of other streams I found one > streaming in MP3 and that played fine. > > I'm thinking I may have been playing around with file type conversions > at some time in the past and munged the AAC conversion. Looks like it's > being transcoded to FLAC, or trying to be. I think I'll figure it out > eventually. makes sense. I've never changed my file type settings (all at default). AAC files play fine on transporter. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
garym wrote: > odd problem. I haven't seen this. My first step would be to do a xlinx > reset. May not help, but can't hurt anything. > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Transporter_xilix_reset Thanks. Made no difference. But I examined the streaming codec of the stations and discovered that they were all AAC. After trying a number of other streams I found one streaming in MP3 and that played fine. I'm thinking I may have been playing around with file type conversions at some time in the past and munged the AAC conversion. Looks like it's being transcoded to FLAC, or trying to be. I think I'll figure it out eventually. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
odd problem. I haven't seen this. My first step would be to do a xlinx reset. May not help, but can't hurt anything. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Transporter_xilix_reset *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5)>LMS 7.9.2>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.2>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming radio doesn't play on Transporter
My main stereo system with a Transporter was down for a while as my preamp was being repaired. Today I noticed that streaming radio doesn't play on the Transporter. The only other Squeezebox set up in my house right now is a Radio, and streaming radio plays fine on it. I've tried both direct streaming and proxied streaming settings for the Transporter and neither one plays. On the server, the progress bar moves, I get feedback like covers and track info. On the Transporter I see track info, but the VU meters don't show anything playing. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112292 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
Thread over on OpenHAB shows a bit more about how things work ... and also hints at a possible workaround. i.e. move from PicoTTS to Google Cloud Voice (whatever that is) https://community.openhab.org/t/solved-using-squeezebox-as-audio-sink-for-tts/67652 Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
RipNCode wrote: > The URL is probably encapsulated in the java binding. I'd have to > figure out to pull that out as it's not obvious. In this case, I made > Pico create a file to pull the relevant metadata. > > pico2wave -w "test.wav" "Let's hope this audio file works this time!" > > From there, I took test.wav (which doesn't stream with any audio output) > and ran it on a local laptop with mplayer as a file to pull the data. I > also used lame to convert test.wav to test.mp3, and that does stream > correctly to the SB player. The trick I'm going to run into is that I > should be able to have a TTS system dynamically (no file creation) > convert strings to speech and stream them on the fly. I'm sorry I don't understand the problem. You say LMS can't play a http stream WAV LMS but yet you cannot show mplayer playing the same URL. Playing the file does not help with how a file is streamed over http The http handling is half the issue with playing on LMS but it the issue that needs most work. > I think the issue of SB players not supporting 1 channel/16kHz is > probably the issue at hand. I don't believe I can make the Pico output > anything else, so this may be a dead end if it's not possible to get a > player to work with the current output. Maybe it's time to go back to > the drawing board on this design... Transcoding from 1 channel 16Khz to anything is dead easy - once an URL and mplayer output has been given. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
Code:
Playing test.wav.
get_path('sub/') -> '/home/rip/.mplayer/sub/'
[file] File size is 136492 bytes
STREAM: [file] test.wav
STREAM: Description: File
STREAM: Author: Albeu
STREAM: Comment: based on the code from ??? (probably Arpi)
libavformat version 58.20.100 (internal)
Configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-postproc
LAVF_check: WAV / WAVE (Waveform Audio)
Checking for YUV4MPEG2
ASF_check: not ASF guid!
Checking for REAL
Checking for SMJPEG
Searching demuxer type for filename test.wav ext: .wav
Trying demuxer 17 based on filename extension
==> Found audio stream: 0
=== WAVE Format ===
Format Tag: 1 (0x1)
Channels: 1
Samplerate: 16000
avg byte/sec: 32000
Block align: 2
bits/sample: 16
Pity there is no URL as mplayer says it guessed the format based on the
file name !! You did use an URL ? Can you post the command you used so
the URL & filename can be examined.
A couple of other problem - 1 channel and 16kHz a sample rate - neither
s these are supported by SB players - so LMS will have trasncode the
stream into 2 channel and at least 32kHz.
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Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
d6jg wrote: > In the middle there are lots of permission denied errors when trying > to open for playback True, but it's a bit of a misnomer. I generated the file on the Pi with Pico TTS and downloaded it to my admin machine to play it back, just to get the data from mplayer. The Pi doesn't have audio output directly-only a connection to the LMS via the integrated audio sink. So the errors being thrown are because my admin machine isn't set up for this. I just did it to make getting the verbose data a bit quicker. As I mentioned, all other audio playback is not a problem. Hopefully, when done, Pico TTS will not even create a file - it will just stream the audio out directly. Unfortunately, it only does so as a wav... RipNCode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
In the middle there are lots of permission denied errors when trying to open for playback VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
RipNCode wrote: > I've posted another post with the details, but again, it's not showing > up. I'll try again in a few minutes as it may be that my posts are > still being moderated. If this goes through without moderation, I'll > assume the last post was somehow lost Post with links from new users get moderated Just get the output from mplayer and include it in the post. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
d6jg wrote: > Another approach may be to take the wav input into liquidsoap and then > stream it via icecast to LMS as an mp3. I've posted another post with the details, but again, it's not showing up. I'll try again in a few minutes as it may be that my posts are still being moderated. If this goes through without moderation, I'll assume the last post was somehow lost... Since most of the automation is running on an RPi3+, I'm trying to minimize the overhead. Since I anticipate most of the Pico TTS outputs to be small files, I can script lame to convert it to MP3 and then stream it. Ideally, if it's possible to get LMS to recognize the Pico TTS-generated wav files, it would save some overhead and act as a template to do allow other possible wav files to be streamed. I'm just in over my head right now, so if I get a working example, it's off to the races for lots of automation folks to leverage it with LMS in the future... RipNCode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
Another approach may be to take the wav input into liquidsoap and then stream it via icecast to LMS as an mp3. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
Since the stream already exists - it is a case of describing the current format and then advice can be given. If you're not sure how to describe then play it with mplayer with "-v" verbose and copy the output to a post. It will give all the header and mime and other stream format info necessary to play the stream. Years ago - KEXP used to have a uncompressed stream and there various hacks to play it - all of which are now out of date. For example - one thread of many https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?35028-Connect-to-KEXP-Uncompressed bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
bpa wrote: > LMS doesn't recognise the stream and IIRC streamign WAV is not part of > standard distribution as there is no "de-facto" standard for streaming > WAV so for your stream a new audio type and associated handler may be > required. > > First, LMS needs info to determine the audio format. This info is > usually in the Mime of the stream in the HTTP Content-Type header. > Examples > > MP3 > *audio/mpeg,audio/mp3,audio/mp3s,audio/x-mpeg,audio/mpeg3,audio/mpg* > AAC over ADTS *audio/aac,audio/aacp* > AAC over MPEG4 *audio/m4a,audio/x-m4a,audio/mp4* Thanks, bpa. That helps a lot. It's probably the core of what's wrong. I assume LMS would probably need an appropriate plug-in that allows it to recognize the correctly defined audio type? Sorry for the newbie questions, but I'm still getting a handle on this... RipNCode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
RipNCode wrote: > Thanks, bpa. That helps a lot. It's probably the core of what's wrong. > I assume LMS would probably need an appropriate plug-in that allows it > to recognize the correctly defined audio type? > > Sorry for the newbie questions, but I'm still getting a handle on > this... Not necessarily a plugin as something might already cover it but the stream has to be set up so it is unambiguously a WAV stream. LMS also has to know is it is a "Live" stream (i.e. infinite) or a file (e.g. WAV podcast like) with a defined length (WAV header has a max size of 2Gb so "Live" stream has to break WAV headers). The transport protocol also needs to be defined (e.g. MPEg2 over HTTP, MPEG4 over HTTP, plain http). Side issues of metadata also come into view. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
RipNCode wrote: > However, when the broadcast is in WAV format, LMS just pauses the > stream with no audio output. No problem with MP3, FLAC, or other > formats. LMS doesn't recognise the stream and IIRC streamign WAV is not part of standard distribution as there is no "de-facto" standard for streaming WAV so for your stream a new audio type and associated handler may be required. First, LMS needs info to determine the audio format. This info is usually in the Mime of the stream in the HTTP Content-Type header. Examples MP3 *audio/mpeg,audio/mp3,audio/mp3s,audio/x-mpeg,audio/mpeg3,audio/mpg* AAC over ADTS *audio/aac,audio/aacp* AAC over MPEG4 *audio/m4a,audio/x-m4a,audio/mp4* bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
Can you provide some more info about how the file/stream is passed to LMS? Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming WAV files to LMS over http question
Hi All, I'm not sure this question is in the right place, but as best as I can tell, this is a general question. I recently set up a LMS server, and I love it. I use OpenHAB for home automation, and have run into a curious situation that I'm hoping someone here can help with. OpenHAB as a binding for supporting squeezelite players. It works well for controlling the system and playing anything that's on LMS. However, it also has the option to set a squeezlite player as an audio sink. This is very useful in my situation as I can have LMS stream audio over my entire home and OpenHAB can interrupt the audio and broadcast a message as needed (ie, "someone is at the door") and then resume the stream. Great system. However, when the broadcast is in WAV format, LMS just pauses the stream with no audio output. No problem with MP3, FLAC, or other formats. Since I'd like to have the automation system utilize text-to-speech, and that forces WAV files to be produced, it renders the system unusable. If these files are already in LMS as WAV files, there's no problem. It has something to do with sending the WAV files over http for transcoding. I have had a Home Assistant automation system user confirms this happens with Home Assistant as well, so it's not just an OpenHAB problem. In a perfect world, I'd have a text-to-speech system (in this case, Pico TTS) read a file and output the stream in WAV to the appropriate squeezelite player. However, I'm not sure what's happening in the stream that's causing this. I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction to find a reasonable solution to this situation. Any help is appreciated. RipNCode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
garym wrote: > They work very nicely and have a good sound (you'd think they were a > much larger speaker). I've only used one other set of powered speakers > (but they cost even more). I replaced a pair of Audioengine A5s at my > weekend cottage connected to a TOUCH (which sounded very nice and > covered a large combined living room/dining room) with something that > sounded even better: > > https://www.adam-audio.com/en/ax-series/a5x/ > > They should at about $1,000 a pair. One of the regular members at this > forum uses a pair of Adam A3x speakers for his computer. I'm sure they > are very nice too. > > This all said, the Alesis M1 Actives would likely sound very good in > this use. And no clue about using the A2s via USBmine are hooked up > via RCA analog outs. Cheers VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
d6jg wrote: > Gary - Slightly off topic but what do you think of the Audioengine A2s ? > I am considering a pair for our Guest Room driven by an O2 Joggler (USB) > or perhaps a Touch (RCA) but they do seem expensive compared to other > options e.g. Alesis M1 Active 330 USB at about half the cost which have > the bonus that I already know they work over USB with a Joggler. They work very nicely and have a good sound (you'd think they were a much larger speaker). I've only used one other set of powered speakers (but they cost even more). I replaced a pair of Audioengine A5s at my weekend cottage connected to a TOUCH (which sounded very nice and covered a large combined living room/dining room) with something that sounded even better: https://www.adam-audio.com/en/ax-series/a5x/ They should at about $1,000 a pair. One of the regular members at this forum uses a pair of Adam A3x speakers for his computer. I'm sure they are very nice too. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > > I have an old SB3 that I retired from active use some years ago due to > erratic behavior. Maybe it's ready for prime-time again? I'll check it > out and see if it wants to see daylight again. > Using that old SB3 would be my first choice. Should work fine for many more years *and* can stream free Pandora. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
IIRC Pandora requires a hardware players as that was part of the deal with Slimdevices/Logitech - I think this is checked using mac address. There may be other problems with Pandora (paid up) and Chromecast https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109130-Problem-with-Pandora-and-Chromecast bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
garym wrote: > I'm confused. Did I not test something you wanted tested? Maybe I > misread something. I have a radio and it works fine as a bedroom player > through its internal speaker, including playing free Pandora. I don't > have a chromecast LMS setup or any powered speakers at home with the > radio to test anything else about it. > > edit: The Radio is fine for what it is. Sounds good for a desktop > radio in my bedroom or kitchen. My touch is connected as a player > through a major home AV system (not powered speakers) so sounds WAY > better than the radio with its internal speaker. If I was going to > obtain a squeezebox player for use to feed self-powered speakers, I'd > definitely go for the TOUCH. It's designed for this and the Radio is > not really designed for this. The recommendation of a Touch feeding > Audioengine A2s should sound fantastic. I use a pair of Audioengine A2s > at the office and they sound very nice and are plenty loud if needed. Gary - Slightly off topic but what do you think of the Audioengine A2s ? I am considering a pair for our Guest Room driven by an O2 Joggler (USB) or perhaps a Touch (RCA) but they do seem expensive compared to other options e.g. Alesis M1 Active 330 USB at about half the cost which have the bonus that I already know they work over USB with a Joggler. On topic. I can't test Chromecast (Phillipe's plugin) with Pandora being in UK but I can't see why it wouldn't work as it is an instance of squeezelite inside LMS but as I say I can't test. I'd put a Chromecast into our Guest Room but I currently have plenty of other spare kit. Note. I use my Chromecast to a small headphone amp at my bedside. It is only ever used in this stand alone mode and never synced. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
I see, I get what you're saying. While I've spent my adult life in Silicon Valley (and picked up my first SB3 and a few other purchases at the Slim Devices office in Mountain View, and also discovered a former colleague working there on one visit), I'm not an engineer or any other kind of technical person. The thought of cobbling together a Linux-running device from even pre-configured components holds no interest for me. None. I wouldn't do it for myself, much less for someone else's use. As I said, I'll leave it up to my buddy to decide the approach he wants from the conventional choices. I have an old SB3 that I retired from active use some years ago due to erratic behavior. Maybe it's ready for prime-time again? I'll check it out and see if it wants to see daylight again. Thanks for the time to respond. Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > No but I think maybe I wasn't clear enough in an effort to be brief. I > thought maybe someone had tried it or, failing that, with the right > equipment could spend a few minutes moving stuff around to try it out > and share the experience. > > At best, much of what's on the used market is 10 years old. Much of it > can be older. I know my own SB equip is starting to show its age, it's a > wonder it's all lasted as long as it has. > > I was trying to balance the purchase price risk vs functionality for my > buddy. If a Radio works reasonably satisfactorily, it's likely to be a > newer product and $100 less money on the table to buy something from a > stranger. If people have found the sound not acceptable, then the choice > is $35 for reasonable but incomplete functionality (Chromecast audio) or > $150 to buy full functionality but something that might conk out in 6 > months. > > I was looking for some direction and experience but failing that, I'll > just let him decide. His money, his consequence. Thanks OK. I understand your request now. If it was only sorta complicated, I'd be happy to test output from RADIO headphone jack vs output of TOUCH, both feeding same amp/speakers. Unfortunately, it would be quite a chore. My Touch is connected to my DAC/Preamp/Amp via a S/PDIF coaxial cable. So it is not a matter of simply pluging that cable into the RADIO. I'd need a different cable for the RADIO (and the TOUCH RCA outs instead of S/PDIF), a cable I don't currently own by the way (dual RCA on one end and headphone miniplug on the other). And to insert this different cable I'd have to have a friend come over to help me move a giant piece of furniture away from the wall that holds all my AV equipment inside (with a 65" TV on top of it). Then I'd need to use that different cable to connect radio vs Touch to A/B them. And accessing DACs, preamps, etc. inside this AV cabinet is not that easy. Anyhow, we're talking 3 to 4 hours on a Saturday to get things moved out, tested, moved back in, etc. You get the idea. But the next best thing is I did a search of this forum going back to when the Radios were first released. There were a few threads that addressed using the headphone out of the radio to feed a preamp or powered speakers instead of the TOUCH. The general consensus seemed to be that, although not perfect because the radio output not line-level and a bit noiser, it generally worked just fine for modest listening (although not as good as a TOUCH, which is made for this purpose). The major complaint is that the volume was way lower out of the radio headphone jack as compared with TOUCH line-level outputs (RCA analog outputs). If not for the need for free Pandora, the answer (for me if recommending to a friend) would be very simple. I'd do one of two things. 1. connect a chromecast audio connector to a set of powered speakers and control with smart phone (all playing my own music or internet radio streams from LMS with the appropriate plugin from phillipe to make LMS work with chromecast). 2. Purchase a Rasberry Pi 3B+ with HifiBerry DAC+ hat, install PiCorePlayer (which will then be using squeezelite as the LMS player), and connect the analog outputs of the Rasberry Pi to the powered speakers. This is cheap, but not as cheap as the chromecast audio. But it is current technology. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
garym wrote: > I'm confused. Did I not test something you wanted tested? Maybe I > misread something. I have a radio and it works fine as a bedroom player > through its internal speaker, including playing free Pandora. I don't > have a chromecast LMS setup or any powered speakers at home with the > radio to test anything else about it. > > edit: The Radio is fine for what it is. Sounds good for a desktop > radio in my bedroom or kitchen. My touch is connected as a player > through a major home AV system (not powered speakers) so sounds WAY > better than the radio with its internal speaker. If I was going to > obtain a squeezebox player for use to feed self-powered speakers, I'd > definitely go for the TOUCH. It's designed for this and the Radio is > not really designed for this. The recommendation of a Touch feeding > Audioengine A2s should sound fantastic. I use a pair of Audioengine A2s > at the office and they sound very nice and are plenty loud if needed. No but I think maybe I wasn't clear enough in an effort to be brief. I thought maybe someone had tried it or, failing that, with the right equipment could spend a few minutes moving stuff around to try it out and share the experience. At best, much of what's on the used market is 10 years old. Much of it can be older. I know my own SB equip is starting to show its age, it's a wonder it's all lasted as long as it has. I was trying to balance the purchase price risk vs functionality for my buddy. If a Radio works reasonably satisfactorily, it's likely to be a newer product and $100 less money on the table to buy something from a stranger. If people have found the sound not acceptable, then the choice is $35 for reasonable but incomplete functionality (Chromecast audio) or $150 to buy full functionality but something that might conk out in 6 months. I was looking for some direction and experience but failing that, I'll just let him decide. His money, his consequence. Thanks Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > He'd said he wanted stereo and not mono, despite the modest system. The > streaming he wants to do from time to time is in addition to playing his > music collection. > > It's one of those things where I'm just trying to help someone out. I > saw in your sig that you have a Radio and so I thought maybe I could ask > a few minutes of help from you. Sorry, thanks anyway I'm confused. Did I not test something you wanted tested? Maybe I misread something. I have a radio and it works fine as a bedroom player through its internal speaker, including playing free Pandora. I don't have a chromecast LMS setup or any powered speakers to test anything else about it. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
garym wrote: > Given that we're talking about music as alarms, low level listening, > etc. it seems to me that the easiest thing to do is use the Radio itself > and its built in speaker. Works fine for that sort of use. He'd said he wanted stereo and not mono, despite the modest system. The streaming he wants to do from time to time is in addition to playing his music collection. It's one of those things where I'm just trying to help someone out. Sorry I couldn't solicit your contribution with the piece of equipment you have that I don't. Thanks anyway Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > Exactly, that's what I saw when I tried it with Squeezeplay on my PC. > > Any thoughts about using a Radio as a front end instead of a Touch for a > low cost streaming solution? Given that we're talking about music as alarms, low level listening, etc. it seems to me that the easiest thing to do is use the Radio itself and its built in speaker. Works fine for that sort of use. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
garym wrote: > when I try to use free pandora to stream to a squeezelite player on my > laptop, I get the message that I must be a paid subscriber to stream to > this device. I don't have a chromecast device connected to test. My > suspicion is it will get the same message, but who knows Exactly, that's what I saw when I tried it with Squeezeplay on my PC. Any thoughts about using a Radio as a front end instead of a Touch for a low cost streaming solution? Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > haha, I thought you did when you said "Yes. Free pandora will stream." I > know it will to SB hardware because I do that myself but that was the > secondary question I had to get answered in considering the Chromecast > alternative. > > Okay, back to Plan B. I'll be seeing my friend with one I can try it out > on in a few weeks so absent anyone else's thoughts, that should work. > Thanks again for taking the time to help. when I try to use free pandora to stream to a squeezelite player on my laptop, I get the message that I must be a paid subscriber to stream to this device. I don't have a chromecast device connected to test. My suspicion is it will get the same message, but who knows *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
garym wrote: > note that I couldn't confirm whether free pandora would stream with a > chromecast device haha, I thought you did when you said "Yes. Free pandora will stream." I know it will to SB hardware because I do that myself but that was the secondary question I had to get answered. Okay, back to Plan B. I'll be seeing my friend with one I can try it out on in a few weeks so absent anyone else's thoughts, that should work. Thanks again for taking the time to help. Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > Okay, thanks. I'll tell him to go ahead and pick up a Chromecast audio > device. > > The gapless thing isn't an issue for me but I'm glad to better > understand. I do have a few album that I think of as thematic or ongoing > from song to song. Abbey Rd is one you've reminded me of. Tull's Thick > as a Brick is another but the CD version is in two parts (vinyl front > and back?) and isn't separated by tracks. I guess it's not something > I've ever paid attention to. note that I couldn't confirm whether free pandora would stream with a chromecast device *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Okay, thanks. I'll tell him to go ahead and pick up a Chromecast audio device. The gapless thing isn't an issue for me but I'm glad to better understand. I do have a few album that I think of as thematic or ongoing from song to song. Abbey Rd is one you've reminded me of. Tull's Thick as a Brick is another but the CD version is in two parts (vinyl front and back?) and isn't separated by tracks. I guess it's not something I've ever paid attention to. Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > Does anyone know, will free Pandora stream from LMS---> a Chromecast > audio device in the US? (I won't be seeing my friend to try it myself > for a couple of weeks). Thanks Yes. Free pandora will stream. I haven't tried with anything but a real squeezebox player. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Does anyone know, will free Pandora stream from LMS---> a Chromecast audio device in the US? (I won't be seeing my friend to try it myself for a couple of weeks). Thanks Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > If there are no other in-the-know responses, I have another friend who > has an audio Chromecast, so I can take a laptop over to his house and > see what happens with LMS before having my other friend buy the > hardware. Yeah, it's cheap, but it'll let me know if the choice involves > some use-compromise he should consider and he can decide what he wants. > > > > On your other comment, I've never fully understood the enthusiasm about > gapless playback. Am I missing something about it? The next track starts > as the other ends, with no gap, no brief moment of silence. Is that all > it is? Gapless. Yes but if you dont have music that requires it you wouldnt notice the lack of it. A good example is Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd. The tracks flow into the next track. Without gapless playback you hear a micro second Gap that shouldnt be there. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Goodsounds wrote: > > On your other comment, I've never fully understood the enthusiasm about > gapless playback. Am I missing something about it? The next track starts > as the other ends, with no gap, no brief moment of silence. Is that all > it is? Yes that is all it is. But very annoying. You must not listen to many live albums (or things like the Beatles Abby Road (side 2) or Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon). For me, the most annoying is a really nice live album with a cool transition from one song to the next (think Grateful Dead) and then you get the break with a second or two of silence. It is only a second, but is very annoying and definitely kills the buzz *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4)>LMS 7.9.1>Touch> Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9.1>Squeezelite *The Wild (no internet): *PiCorePlayer 4.0 on rPi 3B+, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
If there are no other in-the-know responses, I have another friend who has an audio Chromecast, so I can take a laptop over to his house and see what happens with LMS before having my other friend buy the hardware. Yeah, it's cheap, but it'll let me know if the choice involves some use-compromise he should consider and he can decide what he wants. On your other comment, I've never fully understood the enthusiasm about gapless playback. Am I missing something about it? The next track starts as the other ends, with no gap, no brief moment of silence. Is that all it is? Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Id say better than a Boom if your Active Speakers are of sufficient quality. Certainly something like Audioengine A2 would be better. Pandora. I use local FLACs, Spotify & BBC iPlayer. All are fine via a Chromecast (now I know how to set it up for gapless) I cant see why Pandora would or could be any different. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
Yes, I'm considering that approach too. Any downsides to that? Is the sound quality at least to an SB Boom level? I thought I'd seen that free Pandora will not play to non-SB hardware ? Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
If you dont need a screen what about a Google Chromecast and Phillipes plugin. Great value for money and not bad sound. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming source for small powered speakers - Touch vs SB Radio
I'm helping a friend set up a small SB location for his bedroom. For alarm, music at a soft setting, etc., Me, I already have an in-place and working multi-room SB home and all's well. Here's the question - a used SB Radio can be found for under $75. A used Touch is $150 or more. I understand the headphone jack on the Radio could function just fine as audio-out to small powered speakers. Or, the normal analog RCA outputs from a Touch of course work too. This is for a bedroom, not for a major listening location and not for profound enjoyment of high resolution music. Keeping in mind the intended usage, is there a substantial difference in sound quality to justify the extra cost of buying a Touch? Assume that the screen display doesn't matter and that input and control will be accomplished using a smartphone app. Thanks in advance for any thoughts you can share. Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Deezer on the Duet - is data from Deezer.com or Squeezebox.com?
Ah, ok, (and apols for the double post there). I probably need to do some more testing then, again when no one is in the house and turn off pretty much everything excep the media server PC and have another go. I read that footnote sentence as meaning the streaming server being Deezer, not the local logitech media server. But your interpretation makes more sense; why would it stream the same song 5 times? Cheers again, Ian wellsi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107645 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Deezer on the Duet - is data from Deezer.com or Squeezebox.com?
wellsi wrote: > Deezer Premium = 320 kb/s. 5 players synchronised would therefore be 5 > x 320 kb/s = 1,600 Kb/s = 1.6 Mb/s. > Data consumed = 1.6 Mb/s x 60 seconds x 30 mins = 2,880 Mb = 2.8 Gb = > around the data I used. You're mixing bits and Bytes: 2880Mb = (2880/8)MB = 360MB. Bitrate is defined in bits per second, while bandwidth usage usually is counted in bytes, not bits. My calculation was a bit misleading, as my guessed 100MB would have been for a single stream. 360MB/5P = 72MB/Player. wellsi wrote: > I'm using Logitech Media Servier on a windows PC which has my > 'mysqueezebox.com' account info entered. And I'm using the Deezer plug > in app to play the music from my handsets around the house. I didn't > quite understand your first post's last sentence; are you saying 5 > players does use 5 x the data? That's the implresson I get from the > wiki.slimdevices page > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Synchronization > > Still not sure why my plan counts this as used data then if it's defo > coming straight from deezer.com. I thought I saw the Squeezebox Touch I > was choosing the deezer music from flashed up 'connecting to > mysqueezebox.com' when I selected Deezer, hence my thoughts about it > going via that site, but I guess it could have just been sorting the > account detials out before streaming from Deezer.com. IMHO syncing 5 players using LMS should only pull the stream once from the cloud to LMS, and 5x from LMS to the players. See the footnote about "partial" syncing on mysb.com: "You can sync these, but the audio will most likely not be in perfect sync. The reason for this is because each player maintains its own connection to the streaming server, and may start at slightly different points in the stream." mysb.com can't sync perfectly well, because the players stream directly from the source. With LMS this limitation goes away as LMS is proxying the stream. Michael http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107645 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Deezer on the Duet - is data from Deezer.com or Squeezebox.com?
wellsi wrote: > Thanks Michael. > well, I did a half hour test streaming around 5 songs. Somehow I > managed to consume 2Gb of data and it's come off the allowance, so > that tells me 2 things: > 1. It's not streaming directly from deezer.com but is going through a > proxy or something via mysb.com, which means it does come off the > allowance, whicih is a shame, and > > 2. Streaming to multiple players does indeed consume mulitple amopunts > of data, which seems bonkers. If I'm playing the same song, surely it > shoudl just duplicate within my own network, not stream the same song > mulitple times. I had 5 players synchronised, which explains the > enourmous amount of data consiumed in under half an hour... 5 songs would only consume about 100MB - 2GB must have been consumed elsewhere. Can you track down from what source that data came? Trust me when I say nothing is being proxied through mysb.com - the cost would kill us. Are you using LMS or connect to mysb.com directly? The single stream when synced would only work when using LMS (for aforementioned reasons). Michael http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107645 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming Deezer on the Duet - is data from Deezer.com or Squeezebox.com?
If I stream Deezer on my Duets around the house, am I streaming from Deezer.com (which is included in their deal meaning it's not using up my data allowance), or am I streaming from Squeezebox.com (which isn't, and therefore will eat up my allowance). The audio date comes from the music source, not mysb.com. I don't know how they handle this, as it's not coming from some deezer.com domain, but a CDN they're using. But I guess they've figured that out. Also, (just checking), I assume if I'm streaming to 4 players synchronised, I'm only downloaing data once to mediaserver which is then in turn streamed wthin my home network to the 4 duet players (so Im not using 4x the data when playign on 4 players... Yes, afaik that's the case. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming Deezer on the Duet - is data from Deezer.com or Squeezebox.com?
Hi all I use Three (a UK cellphone provider) for my home broadband (their Home-fi - 4G option which gives me 40Gb a month of LTE 4G data for use in my home). They also have a special deal that allows unlimited streaming from a few streaming sites like Netflix and Deezer which doesn't use up my data allowance. If I stream Deezer on my Duets around the house, am I streaming from Deezer.com (which is included in their deal meaning it's not using up my data allowance), or am I streaming from Squeezebox.com (which isn't, and therefore will eat up my allowance). Also, (just checking), I assume if I'm streaming to 4 players synchronised, I'm only downloaing data once to mediaserver which is then in turn streamed wthin my home network to the 4 duet players (so Im not using 4x the data when playign on 4 players... Cheers, Ian wellsi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107645 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Analog in on boom , low volume ? There is a setting for that , analog out on stuff vary so input sensitivity is a setting . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
The killer solution would be a software streaming target e.g. a software chromecast, but I think development of that would be a bit of a slog. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Or this (or equivalent): http://m.ebay.com/itm/111855662511 Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Maybe this can help? http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?104572-Announce-SendToSqueezebox-Android-app I am not an Android user, I just noticed this thread and that you were requesting something that can likely be solved by this app. Good luck. usc95's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59694 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Am also looking to achieve this. I just bought a JBL Flip 3 Bluetooth speaker, but then I thought, "hey I have a SB Boom and Radio, why not use those?". The audio quality of these products far outshines the JBL (although for a portable battery powered speaker it's not that bad at all). So there must be a way right? Analogue cable: works fine but volume is low in my experience and wireless is just so much more comfortable BT adaptor?? Wifi direct?? I don't have my server running 24/7, so would prefer and "offline" solution. Ideas, experiences? johnieutah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29483 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Aha. DRM. Not much you can do then other than root your phone or connect its analogue audio out to an input that can be streamed from. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Thank you for your input. @drmatt: Since LMS is running on my QNAP, I don't have a possibilty to get my audio stream into the system by chromecast etc. @Apesbrain: I tried Upnp. Everything is fine. I activated Upnp in LMS, now I can see the squeezeboxes as dlna clients on my phone. BUT I can't send the freegal stream, because android does not allow to stream the audio output, and the freegal app does not have an option to select dlna clients to be delivered with the stream. vibvic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36426 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Maybe some combination of UPnP? UPnP plugin on LMS and UPnP server on your phone. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Wavinput plugin is the usual response, assuming your LMS server has an audio input you can get to (or plug a chromecast into). drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming from android smartphone to Squeezebox
Sorry, I feel shure it should exist threads in this direction, but I did not manage to find one: I want to stream the audio of my android 5.0 smartphone to my squeezeboxes (SB radio, Logitech Media Server on QNAP NAS). Is there an app or other possibility to do so? My streaming service is Freegal. I did not find an Squeezebox compatible app to run the service directly on SB. IckStream could be a possibility, but up to my knowledge, Freegal has not yet been implemented. vibvic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36426 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming music to SB without internet connection
Thanks. I thought so, but it is good to get confirmation. Time is short and I didn't want to muck around trying to do something that wouldn't work a priori. chopinhauer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32453 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106022 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming music to SB without internet connection
While I am waiting I'm wondering if I can set up my wifi modem/router in the house and just stream music to my SB duet in the normal way? Or do I need an internet connection to get viable wifi network running in the premises? You don't need internet to get wlan or the SB working. You won't have access to online radio and music services, of course. But local music should play just fine. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming music to SB without internet connection
Sorry for this basic question, but I have just moved and the internet is taking an interminable amount of time to connect. While I am waiting I'm wondering if I can set up my wifi modem/router in the house and just stream music to my SB duet in the normal way? Or do I need an internet connection to get viable wifi network running in the premises? (I can set up the router via wifi so there is a network of sorts already). chopinhauer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32453 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106022 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] streaming to Squeezebox
It turns out that I have internal network problems that I am in process of solving. I had never been sure if Google\sDNS would be better than my ISP's. It is good to have that information, and I will try if I have more trouble. And thanks for the ShairTunes suggestion. That's working fine on stuff that allows AirPlay, which may be useful on occasions. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104630 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] streaming to Squeezebox
This has been discussed in the BBC iPlayer plugin threads. It is DNS related. Due to the way HLS works it sends many chunks of data in sequence. Because HLS support is a hack in Triode's iPlayer each chunk of data requires a new DNS lookup. If you look through (or search) the threads you should find further info and suggested fixes - one of which is to substitute your routers IP address in the LMS servers DNS settings with 8.8.8.8 - Google's public DNS server farm often quicker than your router and its relay to your ISPs DNS server. It works with iPlayer on PC/Mac because HLS is implemented differently and presumably the player software caches theDNS address. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B&W P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104630 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] streaming to Squeezebox
danco wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions. > > (never any need to reboot router/modem). > > It might be worth a shot, but why not reset the router and reboot the modem sometime. You could also ask the ISP if there is a firmware upgrade available (presuming the kit is their issue). Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104630 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] streaming to Squeezebox
Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, never had any errors with local streaming. And I'm using Devolo Homeplug, not wireless. Network Diagnostics does show the ISP traffic light turn from green to red sometimes, and then back to green in a short or long time (never any need to reboot router/modem). ShairTunes seems to be working for playing local music on my iPad to my Squeezebox. I had a few problems, but I think they were my own misunderstanding. Doesn't seem to work with the BBC iPlayer Radio app on the iPad, though, as I don't think that allows Airplay and so does not allow ShairTunes. Just for the record, using iPlayer Radio on iPad got me a half-hour program with no dropouts. Could be luck, but I suspect that this holds on to the stream better than the iPlayer (and Extra) plugins for LMS. danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104630 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
