[discuss] OpenOffice.org Premium -- steps for 2.0.3

[KamiHír]

As you probably know there is an enhanced version of OpenOffice.org 
called OpenOffice.org Premium.

You can download from here:
ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/OOB680_m5_Premium/
http://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/OOB680_m5_Premium/
(for Linux and Windows in English and Hungarian)

It contains many different templates. With version 2.0.3 I started 
organizing these templates in the default openoffice.org categories:

officorr -> “Business Correspondence”
offimisc -> “Other Business Documents”
personal -> “Personal Correspondence and Documents”
forms -> “Forms and Contracts”
finance -> “Finances”
educate -> “Education”
layout -> “Presentation Backgrounds”
presnt -> “Presentations”
misc -> “Miscellaneous”

layout for Impress backgrounds, presnt for Impress prewritten presentations.

Can someone organize English templates to me? I am uploading the zip 
file (with templates and empty folders) here:

w3.enternet.hu/szalaik/download/TEMPLATES1-en-US.zip

I also would like to build German version of OpenOffice.org, so I need 
help to arrange German language version of templates. I used the 
original OpenOffice.org extras CD and OOoPR-box compilation. The 
collected German templates are going here:

w3.enternet.hu/szalaik/download/TEMPLATES1-de.zip

So can you contribute this for next OpenOffice.org Premium?

Thanks,
KAMI


OpenOffice.org fanatic ;o)

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[discuss] OpenOffice.org Premium - The well known office suite with more extras bundled

[KamiHír]

Hi OpenOffice.org fans!

I would introduce my modification for OpenOffice.org. It called OpenOffice.org
Premium. What does it means?
It is a general OpenOffice.org build with lots more extras.
* more than 2400 cliparts
* templates
* documentations
* other documents
* more than 90 fonts
* 40 fontwok gallery items (will be parts of OOo in 2.0.3)
* installer subcomponent menu - to controll the installation of items above
Every part of package is localized via sdf stucture.
We had a Premium build version 2.0.1 with Hu locale. The users liked the idea.
Now we have created a snapshot from M155 to show this cool thing to everybody 
:o)
HU and EN-US version are available (with java) this time only for windows. Linux
and other builds possible. There was a Linux build from 2.0.1...
The document and template content for EN-US just an example, I am waiting for
ideas what should we include it. You can add languages easily like the general
OpenOffice.org template and samples system (./lang/)...
The binary Windows build is here (ENUS and HU):
http://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/M155_Premium/
Source modification of OpenOffice.org called OpenOffice.org Premium is here:
http://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/
Current version is here:
http://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/OOo202Premium-step7.zip
NB. You have to apply DejaVu font replacement patch before Premium patchset!
(Will be integrated by the 2.0.3 time)
Latest DejaVu patch is here:
http://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/Source_mod/dejavufonts-2_2-2.zip
Licenses:
All of my modification's license is same as OOo licence.

Currently there are four issu about this modification. I have splitted it 
because it seems to big to make a right decision :o)

Here is the IZ articles:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62406
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62407
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62408

(The former IZ article (CLOSED) was here:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=61773)

The OpenOffice.org Premium are based on work of many intedepdent contributors.
All contents and materials may used under LGPL or PDL or another free license.

1) Gallery
I have used the work of
* OO Extras - http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/ - LGPL
* fr.openoffice.org team's Gallery -
http://fr.openoffice.org/Documentation/Gallery/indexgal.html - LGPL
* PrOOo-Box - http://www.prooo-box.org/ - LGPL/PDL
* Cisco Icon Library - http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/503/2.html - Free
* Daniel Carrera's Colletion - http://www.openoffice.org/ - PDL

2) Templates
I have used the work of
* OO Extras - http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/ - LGPL
* PrOOo-Box - http://www.prooo-box.org/ - LGPL/PDL
* My own works - http://hu.openoffice.org/ - LGPL
* Others' works - http://hu.openoffice.org/ - LGPL or PDL or Free
* Daniel Carrera's Colletion - http://www.openoffice.org/ - LGPL

3) Dictionaries
I have used the work of
* http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/download_dictionary.html - LGPL or PDL or
Free

4) Fonts
I have used the work of
* Larabie Fonts - http://www.larabiefonts.com/ - Free (on the homepage)

5) Documents and Samples
I have used the work of
* Others' works - http://hu.openoffice.org/ - PDL


Can we talk about?
can you contribute more stuff, code, localization?


Thanks,
KAMI

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Re: [discuss] Re: Idea for document switching

[KamiHír]

AFAIR there was a Summer of Code project about tabbed OpenOffice.org...

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Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice 3.0

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Randomthots írta:


KamiHír wrote:



And did you try my gallery?

http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=377&expandFolder=377&folderID=375 


The current version is 1.22



How do you use these things?


How to install my OpenOffice.org Gallery

  1.

 Surf to
 http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=377
 then download the latest version of my Gallery by name: Galéria -
 Gyűjtemény 1 (version). The current version is 1.22.

  2.

 Unpack the zip file with subfolders (defaultly) into „C:\Program
 Files\OpenOffice.org 2.0\share\gallery\ folder” under Windows or
 into „/opt/OpenOffice.org 2.0/share/gallery/” under Linux.

  3.

 Run OpenOffice.org program and check the new Gallery themes and
 items in Tools menu -> Gallery. If you con not see any new item
 you have to restart the OpenOffice.org application and the
 Quickstarter too.



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http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=313
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Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice 3.0

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Randomthots írta:


Derek Meyer wrote:


On the release of OpenOffice 2.0, OOo has come up to (and surpassed)
Microsoft Office standards for the working professional.  If you want to
increase the user base significantly, there are two things that I 
believe

must be done first and foremost:

 


*Implement a ClipArt system to compete with Microsoft's
*Improve Impress usability - see review posted all over online for
suggestions

 


These two things will increase appeal to the average home computer user.
With that audience, OpenOffice will gain tremendous ground - but 
until then,

the lack of ClipArt especially, will continue to distract attention from
your excellent suite.  Potential users, such as schools and families, 
need

clipart available for projects, but without it they will continue to pay
ridiculous amounts for Microsoft Office.

 


Thanks for your consideration,

Derek Meyer




I also haven't read the reviews on Impress of which you speak, but 
from posts to these lists I would not tend to argue with the idea that 
Impress still needs work in some areas.


As to the ClipArt... I'm a pragmatic sort of fellow. One can find clip 
art all over the place -- Web sites too numerous to mention (just 
Google for it), CD's at Wal-mart with a few thousand images for $10, 
etc.  For that matter, I have absolutely no compunction against going 
to http://office.microsoft.com/clipart/default.aspx?lc=en-us and 
getting clip art from Microsoft. There are no licensing restrictions 
that I can see and the images work perfectly well in OOo.


I'm somewhat underwhelmed by the OpenClipArt project; don't get me 
wrong, I'm behind the concept and I appreciate the efforts of the 
contributors, but... well, way too many penguins for one thing. I've 
tried to use it several times and I have yet to find an image that I 
need. And until OOo can utilize SVG images, the WMF format from the MS 
site is still the best choice for resizable images.



And did you try my gallery?

http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=377&expandFolder=377&folderID=375
The current version is 1.22

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Re: [discuss] new incubator : Call for Name

[KamiHír]

Laurent Godard írta:


Hi all

Following the OOoCon, i will setup the new incubtaor project i proposed
on my presentation
http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2005/presentations/friday_c8.sxi

to sumarize, the purpose is not to compete with api project but to help
it, puting a bridge from new addons developpers to it.

The new incubator project will adresse these points

- help new commers to deal with first steps in addon production
Help in their naive-lang may be nedded
- build generic tools implementing best-pratices for each scripting
languages so that a maximum number of addons share the same developping
guidelines and same look and feel
- provides a browsable repository
- provides a tool for users to install in 'one-click' an addon from a 
list


see the presentation for more details

The long term goal is to bring OOo usefull features through addon (in
whatever language supported) and integrate it in OOo if popular

You are all welcommed on board. There is a lot of work to do and not
especially hard coding but also translation and new commer welcoming
Obviously, some volunteers dealing with basic, python, java, c++ are
welcommed to help building the tools (i say, a generic wizard,
translation mechanism compatible with OOo translation tools ...)

For now, it appears that this incubator needs a new name as it is more
than scripting and we need something that identifies all the concerned
levels (dev, repository, end-users)

Here are the propositions

- addon.openoffice.org (already 1 vote)
- extensions.openoffice.org (already 3 votes)
- scripting.openoffice.org (already 0 vote)  -i leave it in case

We are actually discussing on the dev@scripting.openoffice.org mailing
list. Feel free to join the discussion there
I plan to close this discussion on friday and move to the new
.openoffice.org list when up

[Update]: it as been reported that extensions and scripting are used 
in cvs modules and may disturb developpers. Btw, there will be no CVS 
for this incubator. Feel free to propose anything you would think 
better, conforming to the ideas exposed in the OOoCon presentation


Thanks again and join us

Laurent


It might be "sea" as codename: Scripting, externsion, addon...

KAMI


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[discuss] Gradient paragraph background

[KamiHír]

Are there any way to put gradient and pattern to the paragraph's 
background? I can only put pic and plain color...


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Re: [discuss] New file extensions?

[KamiHír]

From the help:


 XML File Formats

By default, OpenOffice.org loads and saves files in the OpenDocument 
file format.





The OpenDocument file format is an XML file format standardized by OASIS 
 (Organization for the Advancement of 
Structured Information Standards).




   OpenDocument file format names

OpenOffice.org 2.0 uses the following file formats:

Document format



File extension

OpenDocument Text



*.odt

OpenDocument Text Template



*.ott

OpenDocument Master Document



*.odm

HTML Document



*.html

HTML Document Template



*.oth

OpenDocument Spreadsheet



*.ods

OpenDocument Spreadsheet Template



*.ots

OpenDocument Drawing



*.odg

OpenDocument Drawing Template



*.otg

OpenDocument Presentation



*.odp

OpenDocument Presentation Template



*.otp

OpenDocument Formula



*.odf

OpenDocument Database



*.odb





The HTML format is not an OpenDocument format.



   Older File Formats Prior to OpenOffice.org 2.0

If you want to exchange documents with users that still use older 
versions of OpenOffice.org, save the document in the following formats:


Application



File extension

OpenOffice.org Writer before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.sxw

OpenOffice.org Writer templates before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.stw

Master documents before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.sxg

OpenOffice.org Calc before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.sxc

OpenOffice.org Calc templates before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.stc

OpenOffice.org Impress before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.sxi

OpenOffice.org Impress templates before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.sti

OpenOffice.org Draw before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.sxd

OpenOffice.org Draw templates before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.std

OpenOffice.org Math before OpenOffice.org 2.0



*.sxm



These file name extensions help you to identify the different file types 
in a directory. If you unzip the XML files, you can use applications 
other than OpenOffice.org to edit the file contents.





If you want to define another file format as the default, choose *Tools 
- Options - Load/Save - General* 
 
to find alternative file formats for each OpenOffice.org document type.




   XML file structure

Documents in OpenDocument file format are stored as compressed zip 
archives that contain XML files. To view these XML files, you can open 
the OpenDocument file with an unzip program. The following files and 
directories are contained within the OpenDocument files:


   *

 The text content of the document is located in *content.xml*.

 By default, *content.xml* is stored without formatting elements
 like indentation or line breaks to minimize the time for saving
 and opening the document. On the *Tools - Options - Load/Save -
 General* tab page you can activate the use of indentations and
 line breaks by clearing the check box *Size optimization for XML
 format (no pretty printing)*.

   *

 The file *meta.xml* contains the meta information of the document,
 which you can enter under *File - Properties*.

 If you save a document with a password, *meta.xml* will not be
 encrypted.

   *

 The file *settings.xml* contains further information about the
 settings for this document.

   *

 In *styles.xml,* you find the styles applied to the document that
 can be seen in the Styles and Formatting window.

   *

 The *meta-inf/manifest.xml* file describes the structure of the
 XML file.

Additional files and folders can be contained in the packed file format.


   Definition of the XML formats

The DTD (Document Type Description) files for the older formats can be 
found in $[officepath]\share\dtd.


The schema for the OpenDocument formats can be found on the 
www.oasis-open.org  web site.


Note that the formats are subject to certain licenses. You can find 
notes on the licenses at the start of the DTD files. More detailed 
information can be found on the OpenOffice.org 
 website.


*Related Topics*

Opening Documents 
 



Saving Documents 
 



Changing the Association of Microsoft Office Document Types 
 



Document Converter Wizard 





Lars D. Noodén írta:


What are the new file extensions for the OpenDocument formats?

-Lars
(Sorry, I can't just look because there's no recent version for OS X 
yet.)


Lars Nooden ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog ...
... until you start barking.

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[discuss] Extended installer - more extras

[KamiHír]

I have a very little know about modifying OOo sources. I would like to 
build an alternative package including many extras. I coulnt gess how 
can I do that.

I have extra
gallery elements (with subdirs)
templates (with or without subdirs)
sample documents (with or without subdirs)
more dictionaries
true type fonts

How can I add them to the my private builds? How can I add if I want to 
add as additional menu in the installer? And how If I want to add 
without extra menu?

WIN and LIN builds only...
Thanks,
KAMI

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http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=377
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http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=313
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Re: [discuss] OpenClipArt Library Association?

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Nicu Buculei írta:


Chad Smith wrote:


Well, if OCAL made their graphics *work* with OOo, then their might be a
reason for OOo to link to them. As it is - it would be pointless for 
OOo to

link to a bunch of clip art that OOo users can't use.



As you may know, TheOpenCD provide a PNG version of the library.
Another 3-rd party, http://epscliparts.sourceforge.net provide the 
images in EPS format for easy inclusion on OOo.
Not last, there is work as Novell to integrate the clipart library (in 
PNG format for now) into their version of OOo.


Do you remember when Daniel Carrera tried to assemble an "extras" 
package for OOo containing clipart and photos? (if not, see the 
archives of this list)

If you still don't find anything, have a look at:
http://website.openoffice.org/source/browse/website/www/tryouts/dcarrera/download/ 



I have downloaded the zip file provided by epscliparts. I tried to load 
in OOo, but they do not appear. I only see a border without the real 
content. What's wrong? Did I miss something? Another bug? Not correct 
conversation?


This time, I would point to my galery. It contains more than 2300 
elements in various themes. In my opinion my work might be the base a 
free galery for OOo.

The place wehere you can get it:
http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=377&expandFolder=377&folderID=456
The current version is downloadable from here:
http://office.fsf.hu/work/Gallery-1-21.zip

Importing OCAL into my gallery would be very nice, but currently there 
aren't any way to do it. SVG import missed (the current contributor's 
work not perfect), I also cannot import eps files. So we have to find 
another solution. If you have a good ide let's share with us. If you 
have a good resource to our galery, please send to me it or a link.


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Re: [discuss] Open Office Icons issue

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http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=40912

Ismael Antadillas írta:


Hello All

I have notice for a long time that the Icons that identify the main
programs of OpenOffice are poorly designed.  Main programs meaning "Write,
Calc, Impress... etc".

1. They are crowded and poorly identify the application they are referring
to.
One should be able to only glance at the Icon and identify the Application
the file belongs to (Icon shape and color).  This becomes clearly annoying when
using laptops or high resolution displays in small screens.

I hate to say it but take an example at the MS Office Icons.  They are
clearly identifiable by shape and by color.  eg. Word, excel.. etc.

This is an issue that, even though is not critical, touches the visual
ergonomics of the application, and it is annoying.  I personally consider it
critical since it limits the comfort level of the user.  And it makes me think
how something so basic has been overlooked.

Please keep it in mind for your next release.

Hope you really take note of this.


Thank You

Ismael Antadillas



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Re: [discuss] OPEN OFFICE 2 wonderful but not again perfect

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4- the speed -> KO, it isn't quicly to open the files


Opening native OD fileformat in OOo 2 as fast as opening doc in word. Of 
course importing doc to OOo is slower than opening doc in word...So 
let's start to use OD fileformat :o)


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Re: [discuss] OPEN OFFICE 2 wonderful but not again perfect

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5- the weight -> KO, I open 2 file con MS Word 2000 and it 
use  35'000 Kb RAM <---> same files with OOO: soffice.bin: 115'800 Kb 
and  soffice.exe: 72Kb   the us PC normaly have only 256 Mb and they 
use also  other program!


You may have to check the Memory usage and the size of VM memory usage...


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Re: [discuss] new product project recomendations

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Ian Lynch írta:


On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 07:33 -0400, Mike Hambrecht wrote:
 

I would like to recommend these as future projects. Things that might make 
you suite even more appealing and able to beat Microsoft.
A diagramming software like, and compatible with, Visio. 
   



OOo Draw. It does everything most people are likely to need for basic
drawing of diagrams etc. Rather than re-inventing it just add to the
graphics libraries at OpenClipart.org and OOoExtras etc. SVG is the
growing world vector standard so far more important to support that well
than worry about compatibility with a closed proprietary standard.

 


You can get good graphics library from my gallery:

You can reach the gallery at the hu.openoffice.org project:
http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=377&expandFolder=377&folderID=456 
 



The current version is downloadable from here:
http://office.fsf.hu/work/Gallery-1-20.zip (~30MB)

A Gant Chart 
program like, and compatible with, Microsoft Project.
   



I guess in the future someone might adapt Draw to be able to do this
type of thing too. In the whole scheme of things there are higher
priorities. eg adpating Draw for work in schools with whole class
interactive teaching.
 

Project like application is would be nice, but I think it is not has to 
be part of Draw. It may require a different app interghrated into the 
OpenOffice.org.



 

A full personal 
management product like, and compatible Outlook. 
   



Use Thunderbird or Evolution. No point in diverting resources into
things that are already served by Open Source applications. We don't
have to do everything at OOo.
 



Thunderbird+calendar (and later Lighting) is a good Outlook alternative...



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Re: [discuss] grammar

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Larry Gusaas írta:

Do you have the URL's for them? I searched Sourceforge for "Language Tool". No grammar 
checker showed up.
 


I think he pointed to http://www.danielnaber.de/languagetool/
sf.net files section of this project is still empty...

KAMI


On 24 Aug 2005 at 21:20, Jonathon Blake wrote:

 


Amy wrote:

   


I would like to see a grammar checker in future releases of English
Open
 


Download and install Language Tool.  You can find it on Sourceforge.

   


it has no grammar checker
 


Technically accurate. There are three grammar checkers that can be
used with OOo.

xan

jonathon
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Re: [discuss] PING

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Alexandro Colorado írta:


PING
 


PONG

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Re: [discuss] Re: Peter, and other volunteers, please stop duplicate messages, was: Greetings

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Larry Gusaas írta:


This "discussion ?" has wasted far more bandwidth than duplicate messages ever 
did.
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Do I agree!

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Re: [discuss] Odd behavior of 1.9.118 ...

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I have very same side effect on 118. It is reproducable on Linux and 
Windows too.


We should check IssueZilla and if not existent issue, we should file a 
new one.


KAMI

William W. Austin írta:

I've noticed some "odd" behavior of 118 as compared with the 95, 100,  
104, 109 and 113 releases.


It crashes a *lot* more often. (I know that beta releases ... etc., 
but  this is an unexpected change for the worse - when I figure out 
how to  make it crash repeatably I'll file a but report.)


I get the same results on 3 different linux boxes.

The only constant is the the first time I try to save a document - 
ANY  document - in writer, I get an error show-box which states:

Error loading BASIC of document
file:/// (full path name to file)
General Error.
General input/output error.

If I then click OK, I get exactly the same error show-box repeated.

After I click on that one, the file saves properly.

I'm working on figuring out what is tripping the crash - full crash 
and  next start recovery process works - and when I do that I'll file 
a bug  report.


Machines, etc:

a)Athlon xp2500+, 2GB memory, 100GB+ free disk space, Fedora FC3  
with current patches.


b)P4 2 Ghz, 512 MB, 50GB+ free disk space, Fedora FC3, all  
current patches.


c)P3 500 MHz, 384 MB, 10GB+ free disk space, RH 9, all current  
patches.





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Re: [discuss] What is the latest beta ???

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Peter Kupfer OOo írta:


William W. Austin wrote:


Actually I'm just curious, but 

A couple of days ago I downloaded 1.9.109 (and am happy with the way 
it  is working overall).


However, I'm also downloading patches for fedora 4, and I just looked 
-  that list shows a 1.9.112 (for fc4) ?


Duuh.  I'm just curious but I'd really like to figure this one 
out...  is the 1.1.112 something outside the releases that are going 
on the  beta download site, or do I just have the wrong urls on my 
list???


Thanks,


There a new beta made every few days, but only publicly released to 
all of the mirrors like every two weeks. The latest on I see was built 
on 6/27 and is 1.9.112.


HTH,


AFAIK the latest public is 113
not public 116

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[discuss] OOo viewer installer based on JAVA OOoView

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Hello!
I created an installer for OpenOffice.org Viewer (JAVA). It is a Windows 
installer.

The JAVA binaries come from here:
http://www.engg.upd.edu.ph/~ooview/

https://oooview.dev.java.net/

You can download the installer from here:
http://hu.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=491&expandFolder=491&folderID=0
There is two type of installer:
NOJAVA version - installer without java installer - small: 540KB
JAVA version - with java installer

Known bug:
File association: I can associate the file, but I can not pass the name 
of document to the viewer. So it opens an emty viewer window.


Should I fill an issue in issuezilla as task to trace the errors?

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Re: [discuss] Open office Legacy Version

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Colin McDermott írta:


Dear Open Office

I am a computer recyclers. I get old Pentium 2's and rebuild them with 
Linux.


I am having an issue with open office on a Pentium 2 with 64mb of ram 
it takes 3 minutes to load on a minimal desktop. If I preload this via 
the command ooffice -quickstart & then run openoffice it takes a 
little over 1 minute. If I increase this to 128mb of ram it preforms a 
little better. But it still takes an incredible amount of time to 
start up. This is followed by a 10 second lag where your words will 
come up slowly.


Altering the memory usage controls does nothing.

I have compared these machines with the equivalent (actually poorer) 
windows machines. They run open office much faster even though Windows 
xp uses much more memory. I haven't even preloaded them.


Is there any plans for a lighter version of open office that can still 
read .doc specifications (I know about abiword and koffice)?
Alternatively is there a library that I can add to make openoffice 
usable if you are running only 64mb of ram?
Is there a team that is working on making a lighter version of open 
office (I will join it)?


Could I please get some answers to these questions. Recycling old PC's 
is a huge issue. We need an office sweet that is use able and so far 
your office sweet is it. Sadly it cannot run well on these machines as 
they are not the latest specification.


Please Open office you are my only hope?

You may try latest betas of OOo. 1.9.115 starts much quickier than olde 
builds (for example First Public Beta)


KAMI

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Re: [discuss] Bug or similiar thing ...

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Haris Fadilah írta:


Dear, Developer Team
And anyothers

I've tested OpenOffice 1.1.4 which stable enough I
though.
Because of features issue, than I try the latest one.
Than, the problem starts :
- When I copy the web page from browser, and I paste
it to writer
- It's OK with 1.1.4 version, but it will hang or
crash with 2.0 beta version.
- Let's try with www.bhinneka.com,... I select all the
page than copy it.
- I paste it,... than it'll make desktop freeze for
while and writer crash.

So, I'm turn to use 1.1.4 version again.
I use Intel P 4 2,4 GHz w/ 1 GB Memory, which good
enough I think.

Thank you for all of your consideration ...



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I tested it, and works for me. Paste operation takes 12-15 sec on my A64 
3000+.


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Re: [discuss] Why I had to switch back to MS Word

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Greg Bulmash írta:

Open Office and I were getting along swimmingly, then two things 
happened that made me dump it.


Search and Replace: Word has support for "special characters" (i.e. 
line breaks, paragraph breaks, page breaks, etc.)  When you're trying 
to convert an e-mail full of broekn lines back into paragraphs, via a 
search and replace, it's simple with Word, impossible with Open 
Office.  Wasn't enough to make me dump OO.o (as I could do it in an 
external text editor).


Searc and replace
More options
Regular expression
See the help to check this option...



Mail Merge: With Microsoft it's simple.  Create a table or 
spreadsheet, use the first row as headers, and then just punch in the 
data in the following rows.  The headers are taken as field names when 
you do a mail merge.  If they don't match a predefined set, no 
problem.  It's easy to plug in your custom fields.


Open Office kept trying to force me to use its built-in database 
component or address book component, neither of which could be made 
suitable to my desired workflow methods.  I couldn't use an .odt doc 
with a table, nor could I use a spreadsheet.  Perhaps I'm missing some 
special thing I need to do to use one of them, but in Word, I don't 
have to do it.


I've got some large mailings coming up.  I'd have to spend many extra 
hours stumbling through OO.o's preferred way of doing things instead 
of doing things my preferred way.


You can use Bult-in component but you can use lot of type of database. 
You can connect with odbc jdbc sdbc...

What is your preffered way?



Great kudos on how far OO.o has come.  It's *there* for many business 
functions, but for others...  I'll check it out again at 2.1.


- Greg


See U soon,
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Re: [discuss] Multiple Versions of Documents

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Hello!

First of all:
Data loss without warning is a very very bad thing.

Mathias Bauer írta:


Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

 

I recently reported a Priority 2 bug in the OO.o 1.9.104 beta release 
(Issue #49865), occasioned by the severe loss of data in files 
containing several versions of a document. The problem was provoked by 
the conversion process to version 2 file formats (.sxw to .odt and .sxc 
to .ods) in that all versions of the document but the current one were 
discarded.


Well and good so far, but the response to the issue was surprising in 
its MS-like quality - it's not a bug, it's a feature!
   



I wouldn't tell that MS-like quality. Did you ever get a response from
MS at all? :-)

OK, seriously now.


From a *technical* POV the current behavior *is* a feature, though it is

not adequate for the use case that didn't exist when the feature was
designed. At that point in time it appeared logical that versions belong
to the source document, not to the copy and so they are intentionally
removed.
 

If it is a feature Peter wants to turn off it.And also lot of user want 
to turn of it. I haven't got too much versioned documents, but the 
bigger companies may like versioning feature.



If you think about document converters you are right if you call this
design wrong - I agree. But it's still a feature change, not a bug fix
from a technical POV. This classification into "feature/enhancement" and
"defect" does not tell anything about the severity of the isse, it's
only a technical classification. You could also call it a "design bug",
but that category doesn't exist in IZ, and IMHO "enhancement/feature" is
a better match to this non existing category than "defect".
 

In my opinion, the defect word fit more the problem, because it cause 
data loss without warning. The right solution may be to add one checkbox 
to save as dialog and one to documentum converter with text like "Save 
(or keep) version information". It can be defaultly disabled (or the 
text can be "Remove version information" defaultly enabled). If we can 
convert sx* -> od* perfectly, I hope we also can convert version 
information at least to open formats (OpenDocument later MS Open XML 
format if it will be really open). Doc versioning is an interesting 
theme, but it may need to much power to make happy not so many people.



But I don't think that this classification is the problem, if the
"feature change" was accepted for OOo2.0 you wouldn't care, would you?
OTOH even if you call it a "defect" this doesn't give it a higher
probability to become fixed for OOo2.0 because it doesn't make the fix
easier and less risky.

The problem is that you can't just revert the behavior and always copy
versions when a document copy is created by "SaveAs". This can create
other severe problems (privacy issues because unwanted data rushes into
copies of documents - you remember all the embarrassing cases where
unwanted metadata or document history data was accidently stored to
published MS documents?). So a new design of the whole feature is
necessary. If a document converter should preserve the file "as is" we
need to change more than only the versions, also metadata needs to be
preserved.

It is definitely too late to create a new design for this feature in the
OOo2.0 release. If a workaround is possible instead that allows to
customize the behavior via API is currently under investigation. That
doesn't make a feature redesign obsolete but can avoid at least a data
loss in the document converter use case. Wether we can do something for
OOo2.0 depends on the feasibility of the mentioned workaround.

Best regards,
Mathias

 


Regards,
KAMI

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[discuss] Gallery - update

[KamiHír]

Hi Daniel Carrera and others!

I have updated my Gallery at hu.openoffice.org. You can simply download 
it from:

http://office.fsf.hu/work/Gallery-1-20.zip

I think there is a lot of interesting element in it, based on fr.ooo and 
DC and others works.


Thanks,
KAMI

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Re: [discuss] Templates' keyword -- accent problem

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Ken Foskey írta:
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 13:16 +0200, Kami wrote:
 

Hello!
Can someone check my issue again?
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=45558
It is about template problem if you fill the temlate's
keyword field with accent character. This template won't
show under File - New - Templates.
Please check issue number 45558...
   

There were some fixes that the Mac OS people did regarding filenames.
It is possible it is fixed in 2.0 beta.
 

This issue not about filenames but about templates and its keyword field.
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Re: [discuss] Albanian Native-Lang project announced

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Charles-H.Schulz írta:
I would like to announce the opening of the Albanian Native-Lang
project (sq) led by Mr. Shkumbin Saneja. OpenOffice.org is now 
available in Albanian, an ancient culture and language of Southern
Europe.
This project have increased the interest about Open Source
applications, in 
Albanian language speaking areas.
As there is no other office suite in Albanian, there are good chances
that 
OpenOffice.org will take the leading role.
Good luck for the Albanian native-lang project and hopefully we'll be
hearing from OpenOffice.org and other FOSS deployments in Albania soon!
You can visit the Albanian project page here: http://sq.openoffice.org

Charles-H. Schulz,
Lead of the Native-Lang Confederation,
OpenOffice.org
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Re: [discuss] Uploaded file size exceeds limit for projects. Maximum is currently set to 26,215,424 bytes.

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KamiHír írta:
How can I upload bigger files than 24MB to hu.openoffice.org?
My gallery is bigger than 24 MB...
Thanks,
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[discuss] Uploaded file size exceeds limit for projects. Maximum is currently set to 26,215,424 bytes.

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How can I upload bigger files than 24MB to hu.openoffice.org?
My gallery is bigger than 24 MB...
Thanks,
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Re: [discuss] Right-Click Problem

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CPH írta:
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 17:31, + Joel Edwards wrote:
 

[ MODERATED ] ***
I have been experiencing a problem with Writer. When I am typing
anything up and then right-click my computer locks up. So far this has
only occured on the linux version of OpenOffice.org. On a really fast
computer it may eventually recover, but nothing else responds until that
menu finally shows up. I am currently running version 1.1.2 on my linux
box, and it has this problem. On my windows system I am running 1.1.4,
and it works without a hitch.
   

Why not upgrade to 1.1.4 on the Linux system to see if the problem continues 
there.

Please reply to discuss@openoffice.org only
 

This problem may related to too many installed dictionary. How many 
diuctionary installed on that computer?

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Re: [discuss] PING ?

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KamiHír írta:
Daniel Carrera írta:
Are the lists dead?
Sent at:  11:05 AM  EST
 

NOO, but they are sleeping...
KAMI

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Re: [discuss] Telling the user what gets lost

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Silas S. Brown írta:
Hi,
If you edit a document in OpenOffice writer (1.1.3) and save
only in external formats, you get the message "Saving in
external formats may have caused information loss.  Do you
still want to close?"
This would be a lot more helpful if it told you exactly what
has been lost.  Microsoft Word does this - if you save in a
format where something must get lost, it tells you exactly
what it is about your document that will be lost (e.g. font
sizes, unusual alignment, etc).  I guess it does this by
asking the filter what it can and can't save and comparing
this with what you've actually done in the document.
Obviously it doesn't tell you about things that you haven't
used, and if you haven't used anything that will get lost
then it doesn't bother you at all.
Can you put this on the to-do list?  I think it's important
because interoperability with Word etc is a major reason why
someone would use OpenOffice rather than (say) LyX.
Thanks.  Silas

 

+1
KAMI
PS.: You may fill an issue at issuezilla...

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[discuss] Someone can check my issue?

[KamiHír]

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=41466
It is about 1 month old, but I didn't get any answer.
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[discuss] Installing lots of Dictionary cause memory leak

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Hi!
I searched but didn't find any issue about dictionary' memory leak. I 
created one:

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=41466
"
If I install lot of dict files for plenty of language, the OOo start to eat huge
memory. For example if I install all of dict with OOoDict the memory usage of
OOo on my computer is near 500 MB... I selected one language for checking, and
the hell is start with right clicking on a bad world. I really don't know this
is normal, but I should say it's abnormal.
"
Thanks,
KMAI

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Re: [discuss] Re: Horrendous Changes to v2.0

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Peter Kupfer írta:
KamiHír wrote:
Ciao!
And what about Quickstarter? I really don't like current state of 
Quickstarter. The "old" was much better in 1.x. There are any way to 
integrate modules, load, templates (and recent OOo docs) into that 
menu again?

Thanks,
KAMI

Good luck with that. If you search the discuss archives you will see a 
previous thread on that.

The problem you speak of was a design change that someone interpreted 
(wrongly IMO) from some MS guidelines for system integration. You can 
read more about it in the issue forums, it is issue #33624.

<http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=33624>
Thanks, I checked... and voted :o)
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Re: [discuss] Re: Horrendous Changes to v2.0

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Ciao!
And what about Quickstarter? I really don't like current state of 
Quickstarter. The "old" was much better in 1.x. There are any way to 
integrate modules, load, templates (and recent OOo docs) into that menu 
again?

Thanks,
KAMI
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