[ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Maya Tulchinsky
CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda Marriott, just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).http://www.cfunited.com/2007/Maya 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I stayed at the Woodfin Suites in Rockville:http://www.woodfinsuitehotels.com/rockville/The accommodations are not plush or ornate, but their convenience was nice. They are business suites. I stayed in a king size bed that had a sofa, love seat, kitchenette, refrigerator and cheap wifi. They have a shuttle to the Metro and are three stops from the Bethesda Metro location where the conference was at. They offered grocery shopping while you were away. Their breakfast was not spectacular, but the food was warm and edible.
I would recommend a rental car as the hotel is about a mile from Rockville Pike aka 355.TeddyOn 11/2/06, Precia 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Teddy, where did you stay at the last conference? You set up sounded much better than what the Marriott offered. 


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Precia
If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together. We can make plans for a smooth trip.

Precia
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I agree with Precia. I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping making things easier on travel considerations.

Teddy
On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together. We can make plans for a smooth trip.

Precia
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Dean H. Saxe

What do you mean?  How to write secure code with Flex?

-dhs


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.  
This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being  
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and  
exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.

--Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials


On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:


Dean,

Can you morph this with Flex in any way?  Flex has become the most  
requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at  
the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.


Precia


On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm  
hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my

abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.  If you're
interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.  It may
help my management make the decision to offer it.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his
own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who
denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present
opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
-- Thomas Paine, 1783


On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:

 I agree with Precia.  I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping
 making things easier on travel considerations.

 Teddy


 On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.  We can make
 plans for a smooth trip.

 Precia


 On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda Marriott,
 just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).

 http://www.cfunited.com/2007/

 Maya

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Dean H. Saxe

I'll consider it!

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or  
that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only  
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American  
public.

-- Theodore Roosevelt


On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Precia wrote:

How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or  
MXML maybe mixed in)  Considerations while passing data between.


Precia


On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What  
do you mean?  How to write secure code with Flex?


-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,  CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
--Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials


On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:

 Dean,

 Can you morph this with Flex in any way?  Flex has become the most
 requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at
 the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.

 Precia


 On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm
 hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my
 abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.  If you're
 interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.  It may
 help my management make the decision to offer it.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his
 own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who
 denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present
 opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
 -- Thomas Paine, 1783


 On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:

  I agree with Precia.  I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping
  making things easier on travel considerations.
 
  Teddy
 
 
  On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.  We can make
  plans for a smooth trip.
 
  Precia
 
 
  On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda  
Marriott,

  just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).
 
  http://www.cfunited.com/2007/
 
  Maya
 
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread John Mason



You've been connecting to one of the webservices via SSL in 
some of the webmail Flex stuff? I think that would cover most of the security 
concerns in passing the data between cf and flex. That's probably one of the 
better ways, butI would be curious to know the security around the other 
possible methods for flex.

John



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of PreciaSent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:48 
AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] 
CFUNITED-07 Information

How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or MXML 
maybe mixed in) Considerations while passing data between.

Precia
On 11/2/06, Dean H. 
Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
What 
  do you mean?How to write secure code with 
  Flex?-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP,CEH[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[T]he 
  people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.This is easy. 
  All you have to do is to tell them they are beingattacked, and denounce 
  the pacifists for lack of patriotism andexposing the country to danger. It 
  works the same in every country."--Hermann 
  Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg TrialsOn Nov 2, 
  2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote: Dean, Can you 
  morph this with Flex in any way?Flex has become the most 
  requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at  
  the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED 
  topic. Precia On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote: I'm hoping to be there this year with a talk (if 
  Michael accepts my abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX 
  class.If you're interested in a 2 day version of this 
  class, let me know.It may  help my management make the 
  decision to offer it. -dhs Dean H. 
  Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  "I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his  
  own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who 
  denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present 
  opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it." 
   -- Thomas Paine, 1783 
  On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:  I agree 
  with Precia.I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping 
   making things easier on travel considerations.
  TeddyOn 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  If anyone is going to CF United, lets get 
  together.We can make   plans for a smooth 
  trip.   Precia
  On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:  
CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda 
  Marriott,  just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last 
  year!).   http://www.cfunited.com/2007/ 
Maya   We have the perfect Group for 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Precia
At MAX...there were the presentations...Securing ColdFusion Presenter: Dave Watts and Understanding Security in Flex and Flash Presenter: Peter Martin
But not a combination of the two.

PRecia
On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll consider it!-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, orthat we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not onlyunpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public.-- Theodore RooseveltOn Nov 2, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Precia wrote: How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or MXML maybe mixed in)Considerations while passing data between.
 Precia On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean?How to write secure code with Flex?
 -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
 This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
 --Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:  Dean,   Can you morph this with Flex in any way?Flex has become the most
  requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at  the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.   Precia  
  On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm  hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my  abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.If you're
  interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.It may  help my management make the decision to offer it.   -dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his  own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who
  denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present  opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.  -- Thomas Paine, 1783  
  On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:I agree with Precia.I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping   making things easier on travel considerations.
 Teddy   On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.We can make
   plans for a smooth trip. Precia   On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote: CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda Marriott,   just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).  
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Andrew Powell
I find it somewhat amusing that MAX is barely a week gone and we're already talking about CFUNITED '07.apOn Nov 2, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Precia wrote:At MAX...there were the presentations...Securing ColdFusion Presenter: Dave Watts and  Understanding Security in Flex and Flash Presenter: Peter Martin But not a combination of the two.   PRecia  On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll consider it!-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED]"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, orthat we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not onlyunpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."-- Theodore RooseveltOn Nov 2, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Precia wrote: How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or MXML maybe mixed in)  Considerations while passing data between.  Precia On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean?  How to write secure code with Flex?  -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,  CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.  This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."  --Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:  Dean,   Can you morph this with Flex in any way?  Flex has become the most   requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at  the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.   Precia On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm  hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my  abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.  If you're   interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.  It may  help my management make the decision to offer it.   -dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  "I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his  own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who   denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present  opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it."  -- Thomas Paine, 1783 On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:I agree with Precia.  I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping   making things easier on travel considerations.  Teddy   On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.  We can makeplans for a smooth trip. Precia   On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote: CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda Marriott,   just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).  http://www.cfunited.com/2007/ Maya We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes toYahoo! Groups.   -   To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists   Archive @  http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/   List hosted by FusionLink   --   To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @   http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglistsArchive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/   List hosted by FusionLink   -  --   cf_payne /   Adobe Certified ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Blog:  http://cfpayne.wordpress.com/   Atlanta CFUG: http://www.acfug.org   -   To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglistsArchive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/   List hosted by FusionLink   -  -  To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @   http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform   For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists  Archive @  http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/  List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com  --  To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @   http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform   For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists  Archive @  http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/  List hosted by FusionLink  

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Dean H. Saxe
SSL doesn't address authentication, authorization, data validation,  
auditing  logging, configuration management, etc.  Lots of other  
ways to screw up security.


-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak  
minds.

--Einstein


On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:04 AM, John Mason wrote:

You've been connecting to one of the webservices via SSL in some of  
the webmail Flex stuff? I think that would cover most of the  
security concerns in passing the data between cf and flex. That's  
probably one of the better ways, but I would be curious to know the  
security around the other possible methods for flex.


John


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Precia
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:48 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or  
MXML maybe mixed in)  Considerations while passing data between.


Precia


On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What  
do you mean?  How to write secure code with Flex?


-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,  CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
--Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials


On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:

 Dean,

 Can you morph this with Flex in any way?  Flex has become the most
 requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at
 the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.

 Precia


 On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm
 hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my
 abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.  If you're
 interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.  It may
 help my management make the decision to offer it.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his
 own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who
 denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present
 opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
 -- Thomas Paine, 1783


 On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:

  I agree with Precia.  I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping
  making things easier on travel considerations.
 
  Teddy
 
 
  On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.  We can make
  plans for a smooth trip.
 
  Precia
 
 
  On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda  
Marriott,

  just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).
 
  http://www.cfunited.com/2007/
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
Conferences represent good milestones for personal development. What can I achieve prior to CF United? What can I show exhibitors, other developers, potential clients or the conference staff in order to get more visibility?
What can I study to take a certification test?What community involvement can I organize between now and then?These are questions that I have to ask myself after every conference postmortem.
TeddyOn 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SSL doesn't address authentication, authorization, data validation,auditing  logging, configuration management, etc.Lots of otherways to screw up security.-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weakminds. --EinsteinOn Nov 2, 2006, at 11:04 AM, John Mason wrote:
 You've been connecting to one of the webservices via SSL in some of the webmail Flex stuff? I think that would cover most of the security concerns in passing the data between cf and flex. That's
 probably one of the better ways, but I would be curious to know the security around the other possible methods for flex. John From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Precia Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or MXML maybe mixed in)Considerations while passing data between.
 Precia On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean?How to write secure code with Flex?
 -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
 This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
 --Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:  Dean,   Can you morph this with Flex in any way?Flex has become the most
  requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at  the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.   Precia  
  On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm  hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my  abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.If you're
  interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.It may  help my management make the decision to offer it.   -dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his  own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who
  denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present  opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.  -- Thomas Paine, 1783  
  On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:I agree with Precia.I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping   making things easier on travel considerations.
 Teddy   On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.We can make
   plans for a smooth trip. Precia   On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote: CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda Marriott,   just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).  
   http://www.cfunited.com/2007/ Maya We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread John Mason
We have those covered as well. I was considering the actual transfer of
data.

John
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:36 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

SSL doesn't address authentication, authorization, data validation, auditing
 logging, configuration management, etc.  Lots of other ways to screw up
security.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds.
 --Einstein


On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:04 AM, John Mason wrote:

 You've been connecting to one of the webservices via SSL in some of 
 the webmail Flex stuff? I think that would cover most of the security 
 concerns in passing the data between cf and flex. That's probably one 
 of the better ways, but I would be curious to know the security around 
 the other possible methods for flex.

 John


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Precia
 Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:48 AM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

 How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or MXML 
 maybe mixed in)  Considerations while passing data between.

 Precia


 On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do 
 you mean?  How to write secure code with Flex?

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,  CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
 This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being 
 attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and 
 exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
 --Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials


 On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:

  Dean,
 
  Can you morph this with Flex in any way?  Flex has become the most 
  requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at 
  the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.
 
  Precia
 
 
  On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm 
  hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my
  abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.  If you're 
  interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.  It may 
  help my management make the decision to offer it.
 
  -dhs
 
 
  Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his 
  own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who 
  denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present 
  opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
  -- Thomas Paine, 1783
 
 
  On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:
 
   I agree with Precia.  I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping 
   making things easier on travel considerations.
  
   Teddy
  
  
   On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.  We can make 
   plans for a smooth trip.
  
   Precia
  
  
   On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda
 Marriott,
   just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).
  
   http://www.cfunited.com/2007/
  
   Maya
  
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[ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread Szwedo . Ed
 We are currently using  a product called ActivEdit as a rich HTML
Editor to replace a textarea in some of our applications.   ActivEdit
allows the user to generate marked up content without knowing HTML.  We
have been having some difficulties with ActivEdit since moving to
ColdFusion 7.  We can't get the Spellchecker to work and are having
trouble with the font dialog.  Troubleshooting the problem with the
ActivSoftware  folks (maker of ActivEdit) has not resolved the problem.

Does anyone use ActivEdit with CF 7?  Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Any input will be appreciated.


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread axunderwood
One that's free is called fckeditor - I know it looks bad, but just google it, 
it's a fantastic open source javascript solution (and they have cf examples)

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 We are currently using  a product called ActivEdit as a rich HTML
Editor to replace a textarea in some of our applications.   ActivEdit
allows the user to generate marked up content without knowing HTML.  We
have been having some difficulties with ActivEdit since moving to
ColdFusion 7.  We can't get the Spellchecker to work and are having
trouble with the font dialog.  Troubleshooting the problem with the
ActivSoftware  folks (maker of ActivEdit) has not resolved the problem.

Does anyone use ActivEdit with CF 7?  Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Any input will be appreciated.


ed
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread Szwedo . Ed
fck - free cool [k]ontent editor?  Just a guess.  Thanks, I'll check it
out.


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One that's free is called fckeditor - I know it looks bad, but just
google it, it's a fantastic open source javascript solution (and they
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Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 12:14 PM
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 We are currently using  a product called ActivEdit as a rich HTML
Editor to replace a textarea in some of our applications.   ActivEdit
allows the user to generate marked up content without knowing HTML.  We
have been having some difficulties with ActivEdit since moving to
ColdFusion 7.  We can't get the Spellchecker to work and are having
trouble with the font dialog.  Troubleshooting the problem with the
ActivSoftware  folks (maker of ActivEdit) has not resolved the problem.

Does anyone use ActivEdit with CF 7?  Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Any input will be appreciated.


ed
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread Alex Pilson


On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You might also take a look at Ektron's ewebedit pro -
http://www.ektron.com/ewebeditproxml.aspx .


Here is the best option IMO bar-none:

Not entirely sure if someone has a CF module yet, but I use it in  
Lasso and PHP.


http://www.fckeditor.net/


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[ACFUG Discuss] Debbie Gregory

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I wanted to say thank you to Debbie Gregory for her presentation last night.

I was sincerely tickled at the visual aids on how strings, lists, arrays and queries were represented.

Also, was I the only person that was impressed by the detail of the examples?

I know she had some troubleshooting issues, but the code examples and the two games were a solid way to engage people in learning development ideas.


Thanks again Debbie and best of wishes in your new adventure in marriage.

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread Justin Haygood
I believe its named after the guy who wrote it
(http://www.fckeditor.net/)

Frederico Caldeira Knabben :)

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fck - free cool [k]ontent editor?  Just a guess.  Thanks, I'll check it
out.


ed
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 We are currently using  a product called ActivEdit as a rich HTML
Editor to replace a textarea in some of our applications.   ActivEdit
allows the user to generate marked up content without knowing HTML.  We
have been having some difficulties with ActivEdit since moving to
ColdFusion 7.  We can't get the Spellchecker to work and are having
trouble with the font dialog.  Troubleshooting the problem with the
ActivSoftware  folks (maker of ActivEdit) has not resolved the problem.

Does anyone use ActivEdit with CF 7?  Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Any input will be appreciated.


ed
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Thank you. Will do.


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You might also take a look at Ektron's ewebedit pro -
http://www.ektron.com/ewebeditproxml.aspx .

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 We are currently using  a product called ActivEdit as a rich HTML
Editor to replace a textarea in some of our applications.   ActivEdit
allows the user to generate marked up content without knowing HTML.  We
have been having some difficulties with ActivEdit since moving to
ColdFusion 7.  We can't get the Spellchecker to work and are having
trouble with the font dialog.  Troubleshooting the problem with the
ActivSoftware  folks (maker of ActivEdit) has not resolved the problem.

Does anyone use ActivEdit with CF 7?  Can anyone suggest a replacement?

Any input will be appreciated.


ed
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Array of Value Objects vs. CFC query returntype

2006-11-02 Thread Shawn . Gorrell

The name du jour, according to Sun,
is Transfer Object. When I learned about them, the name was Value Object,
so I'm sort of predisposed to that term. 

Not sure who came up with calling them
beans, as the term may be easily confused with JavaBeans or Enterprise
JavaBeans which are != to TOs or VOs. I suspect it was someone in one of
the CF framework communities that was attempting to coin their own term
and they wanted to sound cool.


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Last night during the meeting, there was a brief exchange
on what seemed to be conflicting ideas on how to handle Flex data providers.


Shaw Gorrell and Scott Talsman argued two different points on popular ways
to populate Flex components. 

The array of value object represents a design pattern that relates to CF
Components to bean value objects stored in a array, where each array element
is an object invocation. 

These beans are your getter and setter components that are basically glorified
structures in the implementation. 

Value objects have many different names that may confuse people. Value
objects are also known was Transfer Objects and Beans, which in the end
are small foot printed CFCs.

Now Scott raised the point of query population. 

Query population of Flex components are converted into Array Collections,
which makes sense considering that ColdFusion stores queries like Arrays
of Structures.

Each of these methods can be used and represents two different philosophies
and preferences, but both of them work and work well.  

It is your choice in the end which one you prefer. 

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread Benjamin Bloodworth
I like SO Editor myself.

http://www.siteobjects.com/

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On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You might also take a look at Ektron's ewebedit pro -
 http://www.ektron.com/ewebeditproxml.aspx .

Here is the best option IMO bar-none:

Not entirely sure if someone has a CF module yet, but I use it in  
Lasso and PHP.

http://www.fckeditor.net/


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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Replacement needed for ActivEdit

2006-11-02 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Just reviewed the demo.  SO looks great also.  Thanks for your input.


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On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You might also take a look at Ektron's ewebedit pro -
 http://www.ektron.com/ewebeditproxml.aspx .

Here is the best option IMO bar-none:

Not entirely sure if someone has a CF module yet, but I use it in
Lasso and PHP.

http://www.fckeditor.net/


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Debbie Gregory

2006-11-02 Thread Shawn . Gorrell

Totally agree. The examples were far
more interesting then if they'd been presented as (death by) Powerpoint
slides. Great job Debbie. 


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I wanted to say thank you to Debbie Gregory for her presentation
last night.

I was sincerely tickled at the visual aids on how strings,
lists, arrays and queries were represented.

Also, was I the only person that was impressed by the
detail of the examples?

I know she had some troubleshooting issues, but the code
examples and the two games were a solid way to engage people in learning
development ideas.


Thanks again Debbie and best of wishes in your new adventure
in marriage.

Teddy

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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Debbie Gregory

2006-11-02 Thread Debbie Gregory








Thank you so very much for the compliment
and the best wishes. I want to thank everyone who came for being
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I wanted to say thank you to Debbie Gregory for her presentation last
night.











I was sincerely tickled at the visual aids on how strings, lists,
arrays and queries were represented.











Also, was I the only person that was impressed by the detail of the
examples?











I know she had some troubleshooting issues, but the code examples and
the two games were a solid way to engage people in learning development ideas.

















Thanks again Debbie and best of wishes in your new adventure in
marriage.











Teddy

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Blog: http://cfpayne.wordpress.com/
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