[Drakelist] R-4B Crystals For SAle
I have the following crystals for the R-4B for sale: 34.6 37.6 38.1 17.6 14.1 38.6 $10.00 each Please respond off list if interested. 73's Bill Ellis, WB9CAC___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Distortion of T-4XB SSB
Went to check into a SSB net yesterday and I was told my audio was distorted. What could be the problem. I've never used SSB before Thanks and 73's . Bill, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] PL-259 and SO-239 Connectors
As we all know, as our equipment ages, these connectors tend to turn black or discolored. Do we ignore this, do you somehow clean them, or do we replace them? Thanks, Bill Ellis,WB9CAC___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] T-4XB on 10 meters
Hi all, The other day I tried to operate my T-4XB on 10 meters, and nothing, no spot sigbnal no drive to load up on 10. Other bands are ok, just not 10. Any ideas what might be wrong? Thanks,. Bill Ellis, WB9CAC___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4 Power Supply
Got it... Thanks, Bill, WB9CAC From: Bill Ellis wb9...@yahoo.com To: Drakelist (Post) drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: [Drakelist] AC-4 Power Supply Does anyone have a voltage chart for the AC-4 by pin on the power supply female connector? Thanks, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] AC-4 Power Supply
Does anyone have a voltage chart for the AC-4 by pin on the power supply female connector? Thanks, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] R4B Headsets
Thanks all for input. I was able to find a pair. Bill, WB9CAC From: Bill Ellis wb9...@yahoo.com To: Drakelist (Post) drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 7:01 PM Subject: [Drakelist] R4B Headsets Any recommendations for headsets for an R4B. My old military pair have fallen apart, so to speak. Bill Ellis, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] R4B Headsets
Any recommendations for headsets for an R4B. My old military pair have fallen apart, so to speak. Bill Ellis, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] T-4XB R4B PSK31
Does have any info on working PSK 31 and the B-line twins? Thanks, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Magnetic Loop Antenna wth a T-4XB
Have been reading quite a bit lately about magnetic loop antennae. Does anyone have any experience using them with a T-4XB? Please respond directly, unless you think it would be a good topic for the list. Thanks, BILL ELLIS,. WB9CAC___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Crystals for 30 - 17 -12 meters
Are most of you who have the B-line transceiving with the T-4XB or R-4B or are you getting separate xtals for each? Also, do you know of any good sources for crystals? Thanks 73's Bill, WB9CAC___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] PSK31 B-Line Twins
Hi all, I'm looking for a method to hook up a T-4XB R-4B for PSK31. What kind of circuitry would I need to build for this. Thanks, Bill, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] R-4B Headphones
Hi all, I'm looking for an inexpensive set of headphones for my R-4B. My military surplus pair have died. Any recommendations? Thanks, Bill, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] posting
Roger,Whatever you just did worked.Bill, WB9CAC--- On Fri, 1/22/10, roger williams radior...@yahoo.com wrote:From: roger williams radior...@yahoo.comSubject: [Drakelist] postingTo: drakelist@zerobeat.netDate: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:08 PM hi, i cannot remember how to do a posting on drakelist! can you help me? thanksROGER DALE WILLIAMS -Inline Attachment Follows-___Drakelist mailing listDrakelist@zerobeat.nethttp://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Tubes for R-4B
Hi all, Any recommendations for a source to get tubes for my R-4B. I would like to re-tube the entire unit. It's long overdue. 73's Bill, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Fw: Re: MN2000 meter
While we are talking MN2000, I have one with a meter that sticks about half way upscale.Does anyone know where I might get a replacement meter? Thanks, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC --- On Thu, 2/19/09, gypsym...@aol.com gypsym...@aol.com wrote: From: gypsym...@aol.com gypsym...@aol.com Subject: [Drakelist] MN2000 To: Drakelist@zerobeat.net Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 3:45 PM Ok all, to those of you who have responded already a thank you. I have to make a cover or .. Wait and see if anyone responds that has a parts unit. Carl WD8NHK A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] VFO for 2NT
Hi all, If I were building a VFO for a 2NT, what would be my frequency range for the output to plug it into the crystal socket on the front? Thanks, Bill, WB9CAC ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis
Gary, It almost seems as if some dirt has hardened on the surface. Hard to explain. Applying simple green seems to do some clean up, but residue continues to remain. Since simple green did something, I guess I should continue to apply it. I figured the copper cleaner would be too strong, but knew of it and thought I would ask. I'll try to get a picture of it and forward it. Thanks, Bill --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Gary Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gary Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] Cleaning Drake copper chassis To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 11:54 AM The outside of the chassis is coated with a clear lacquer. The corrosion / rust often occurs where the lacquer coating is compromised. I always clean the rust up best I can and coat the chassis with polyurethane. I am more concerned with preventing further damage to the chassis than appearance. 73, Gary
[drakelist] MN2000 balanced feeders
Has anyone been able to adapt the MN2000 for use with open feeders? Bill, WB9CAC
[drakelist] Tubes for 2C, 2CQ,2NT
Hi all, I'm looking to re-tube these units. Any good sources out there? Thanks, Bill, WB9CAC
[drakelist] 2CQ or 2CN
There were 2 models of the 2C. One had a connection on the rear labeled 2CQ and the other 2CN. Is either connection for the the 2CQ? Thanks, Bill, WB9CAC
Re: [drakelist] Belden 8421 Low Capacitance Audio Cable
Wade, Check with n7ioh. I just bought some from him and the price was fine.He sells it by the foot. Bill, WB9CAC H D MAC LEOD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H D MAC LEOD made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hello Drakelist Would anyone out there have 25 feet of Belden 8421 Low Capacitance Audio Cable they would be willing to sell ? I am having a heck of a time sourcing a supplier of this cable without purchasing a 500ft roll from the manufacturer. regards Wade VA3HM -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- - OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends: Get A Month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t
Re: [drakelist] TR-22C crystal swap, anyone?
Jim, Were these xtals interchangeable with the Marker Luxury? Bill, WB9CAC Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Shorney made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi gang, The title says is all. Here's what I have that I don't need: TX/RX 146.94/94 146.34/94 149.22/82 146.28/88 146.37/97 What I need: 146.16/76 146.25/85 144.39 simplex 144.89/146.49 147.84/24 144.545/145.145 147.645/045 This poor radio is sitting here full of NiCd, ready to talk - 60 miles away from here... 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C TR7/RV7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C, L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time! HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [drakelist] Replacement Meters Are Ready
Jim, Please send me the comparison photos of the meter for the MN-2000. Thanks, Bill, WB9CAC Jim Gerke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Gerke made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I've had a request to post a picture of the new meter next to a stock Drake meter, but this list isn't hosted by Yahoo, for example, where such things can be posted for group members to go look at. So, if you want to see the picture, email me directly and I'll send it to you as an attachment. 73, Jim K5JG Jim Gerke wrote: Jim Gerke made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I have some replacement meters available for the Drake W-4, WV-4, MN-4, and MN-2000. The housings of these meters are physically identical to the original Drake meters and mount with the same hardware in the same mounting holes. The plastic cover is identical in shape to the Drake, but the lower portion is clear, not painted black. The meter face itself is a non-Drake face, the needle is black, not red, and is fatter (flattened out) at the end. Electrically, these meters differ from the originals and require a shunt (I use 1% tolerance components) to make them read correctly when dropping them in to the Drake circuitry without having to recalibrate anything. I am offering these meters in two ways: DM-Rep - Tested replacement meter with shunt, non-Drake meter face, and clear meter cover. Purchaser installs his own Drake meter face and cover. Due to the possibility of damage to the needle or movement by the purchaser when installing the meter face, there is NO GUARANTEE and NO REFUND on this configuration and only money orders will be accepted as payment. No checks. $27.50 + $6.00 = $33.50 Priority Mail (not insured) $27.50 + $7.65 = $35.15 Priority Mail (insured) $27.50 + $8.95 = $36.45 UPS Ground (insured) DM-EX - Tested replacement meter with shunt. Purchaser sends his/her old meter to me and I will install the Drake meter face and Drake cover on the replacement meter. I will send back both the fully configured replacement meter and the unused clear cover. Payment for this configuration can be via money order or PayPal. No checks. $32.50 + $6.00 = $38.50 Priority Mail (not insured) $32.50 + $7.65 = $40.15 Priority Mail (insured) $32.50 + $8.95 = $41.45 UPS Ground (insured) The UPS Ground shipping costs shown above are for lower 48 US state addresses only. UPS to AK and HI, and all overseas shipping costs of any type would have to be determined on a case by case basis. Please contact me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you wish to order or have any questions. Thanks. 73, Jim K5JG -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [drakelist] 2 For 1 Sale
Bruce, I'm interested in the W-4 wattmeter. Would you sell it separate and, if so, at what cost? Thanks, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC BSugarberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BSugarberg made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hello, I have the following for sale: Drake W-4 Wattmeter - Works good, looks good. Drake WV-4 Wattmeter - Needs new meter, looks good. $75.00 for both + shipping. 73, Bruce WA8TNC -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [drakelist] Drake and PSK31
Garey, Thanks. Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garey Barrell made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Yes. Color matched crystals, fan on transmitter PA blowing OUT, and about 30 minutes warmup. Transceive control from receiver. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B C-Line Service Supplement CDs Bill Ellis wrote: Has anyone successfully operated PSK 31 with a T-4XB and R-4B? Thanks, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- Bill Ellis, WB9CAC - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins
Eddy, I've had my T-4XB and R-4B(original owner) for 40 years and they are still a dream to operate. Enjoy them. Merry Christmas! Bill, WB9CAC Tempe, AZ EP Swynar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [drakelist] T-4XB problem?
Garey, Thanks for the info. I'll try another 6EV7 as a first attempt at a cure. One other thing I failed to mention earlier, it may sound trivial, but, I've noticed that the connecting cables RCA plugs over the years have oxidized or become tarnished. Should this be a concern for proper operation not only for this problem, but for general operation? Bill, WB9CAC Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garey Barrell made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Bill - Bias voltage is relied on to open the relay by cutting off the 6EV7 relay tube and if that voltage is low because of leaky electrolytics or ripple in the Bias supply in the AC-3/4., the tube doesn't cut off as quickly. Since you have eliminated the supply, another possibility is that the 6EV7 is slightly gassy, which again causes tube to want to continue conducting after it is told to cut off, especially after long transmissions! Yet another possibility is that the final tubes are dropping in emission, which requires you to set the bias voltage more positive to set the idle current to the proper value, again resulting in reduced negative voltage to cut off the 6EV7. Lastly, there are several very high value carbon composition resistors in the biasing for the VOX. ANTI-VOX and Relay circuits that can increase in value with age, resulting in insufficient cut off bias for the 6EV7. A rule de thumb is that the bias voltage at the Final grids is typically -60 to -65VDC for nominal idle current. Let us know what you find! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B C-Line Service Supplement CDs Bill Ellis wrote: Recently having put my T-4XB/R-4B combo back on the air after 1 year off, I'm finding that when I put the T-4XB in spot mode, I can't get the relay to return to the receive mode. This is not keying the finals(I don't think), it just seems to hang up in the spot mode. About 3-4 years ago, I had rebuilt the AC-4(cap's and all), so I don't think that is the problem. Now I know the the anti-vox and vox delay affect how long the relay remains engaged.I have tried that combination with no success. I could just be getting the wrong combo. My question is where is a good starting point for these two controls. Also, could this be a bad 6EV7? Thanks for any help 73's Bill, WB9CAC Tempe, Az -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.
[drakelist] T-4XB problem?
Recently having put my T-4XB/R-4B combo back on the air after 1 year off, I'm finding that when I put the T-4XB in spot mode, I can't get the relay to return to the receive mode. This is not keying the finals(I don't think), it just seems to hang up in the spot mode. About 3-4 years ago, I had rebuilt the AC-4(cap's and all), so I don't think that is the problem. Now I know the the anti-vox and vox delay affect how long the relay remains engaged.I have tried that combination with no success. I could just be getting the wrong combo. My question is where is a good starting point for these two controls. Also, could this be a bad 6EV7? Thanks for any help 73's Bill, WB9CAC Tempe, Az - Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.
[drakelist] Soldering Iron
Hi all, My trusty WEN 75, you know the one that looks like a pistol, has finally died and trying to get tips has been a chore. I looking at one of these variable temperatir\ue/wattage soldering stations. Any recommendations out there? Thanks for any advise, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [drakelist] T-4XB troubles
Greg, Considering how old your T-4XB might be and some of your problems are ones I had, your filter capacitors in the AC-4 powere suipply may have dried up and need replacing. This affects the bias and there could be ylour problem. There are others on this list who can give you more detailed direction. I wouldn't trying to do any more with the rig until you ascertain this is the problem and get it repaired. This will save your finals. Bill Ellis, WB9CAC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: [drakelist] T-4XB troubles Hey all, I am new to the group, and would like to start off by picking the collective brain :-)) I am having trouble with my T-4XB. I was working CW with it the other day when all of a sudden, it shot a fuse. I changed out the fuse and started it back up. The new fuse didn't blow, but when the set warms up, and the tubes start to conduct, the TX/RX relay kicks in and the plate meter starts to show a lot of plate current, around .25 to .3 on the meter. The transmitter won't tune, won't key, won't do anything except light up. I did a visual check underneath, and nothing is obviously burned. or out of place. I thought it may be the 6EV7 tube associated with the relay, but I have no way of testing the one in the set, or any of the others I got with it. Anyway, I thought this may be a common problem associated with this particular set and decided to put the problem in front of the all knowing ones of the famous Drake list! Anybody got any ideas? 73's Greg Gifford / KG4MMY
[drakelist] Another outdoor connection question
Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Thanks to all who responded to my question about Krylon. I chose the coax seal for that problem. I have another situation this time it's with the Hustler 6-BTV Vertical I just purchased and am assembling. The connection to this antenna is by opening the end of the coax, about 2 inches, and making two leads, one with the braid and one with the center lead. They are then soldered to two lugs(supplied) and then srewed to the bottom of the vertical. It seems the only way I can weather protect this connection is with the Acrylic Plastic spray someone suggested. Any other thoughts? Thanks for any help, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Behalf of Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] PSK31
Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Is anyone out there doing PSK31 with an R-4B and T-4XB. If so , how are you connecting your components and are you using any kind of isolation transformer system on each end. I've received with the R-4B, but have not tried to to transmit with the T-4XB. Thanks, Bill Ellis, WB9CAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Behalf of Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
[drakelist] T-4XB and tuner
Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang -- Hi all, What would be the recommended tune up procedure for a T-4XB and a MFJ-900 tuner? Not sure if I'm doing this correctly, so I wonder how others do it. Thanks and 73's Bill Ellis, WB9CAC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Behalf of Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: http://www.zerobeat.net Brought to you courtesy of TLCHost.net http://www.tlchost.net/ --
