[Drakelist] DRAKE TWINS FOR SALE.
== DRAKE STATION:T-XB. R-4B, PS, two MS-4 speakers, MN-2000 ATU, and DRAKE 1000 watt low pass filter, Drake DL-1000 Dummy Load, D-104 desk mic... was listed for$899 Price lowered to $499 but you have to arrange shipping. == This station was refurbished by WB4HFN and kept in storage. Alan KB7MBI Woodinville, WA 425.788.3612 Alan KB7MBI ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] DRAKE TWINS FOR TRADE
Good Day K6GGO I have a very nice R-4BT-4XB ,MS-4 pwr with manuals the R-4B has a little yellow on the dial. Both unites were sent to Jeff Covelli Wa8saj restored to factory spk. Can supply pic . I am interested in trading for the FLEX 3000The FLEX 3000 no problems ? please advise me Ralph K5SHO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes...
Good Day All, Well, I think taht an update may well be in order here, as to the outcome of my ...red-neck hillbilly (apologies to all you mountain-dwelling folk reading this) fix in the matter of improving the shielding of the PTO can in my Drake T-4X transmitter... In a word: it WORKS!!! SO FAR it works, anyway...again to-day I've completed several CQ calls on 40-meters CW, and was engaged in a couple of lengthy rag chews---and there was NONE of the previous intermittent tell-tale frequency jumpiness / intermittent creeping / jiggling... NOTHING. Needless-to-say, I'm very pleased. Keep in mind, however, that my situation here was probably unique from most others: I had repeatedly removed replaced the PTO shield cover here in efforts to track-down what turned-out to be at least one bad solder joint in the tank circuit. No doubt this served to compromise the integrity of the shielding of the can. Additionaly, my station is situated in a very cold basement environment, AND I have a fan extracting air out of the final 2x6JB6A PA cage, which by default, cools the entire inside of the transmitter... The rig's warm-up cycle was far from normal, as a result, I'm sure... Anyway, FWIW guys, don't neglect the critical effect that even the smallest of gap changes in shielding seams can have upon the field of that permeable-tuned tank coil, and by consequence, your transmit frequency. The aluminum strip shielding technique employed here may be far from eye-pleasing, but the benefits of its presence sure are a joy to the ear...! Hi Hi. Here's hoping that my travails may ultimately benefit another(s) in the Drake community... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Original Message - From: Diane and Edward Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:42 PM Subject: Drake Twins PTO Woes... Good Day All, Well, I took the T-4X off-line here to-day, set it up on the bench with the top cover removed, exposing the PTO can... I pondered the ways means of sealing the small gaps between the base of the can its metal attaching surface, with the intention of eliminating any consequent expansion/contraction effect(s) of the joints upon the oscillator frequency. I settled upon a rather crude, but I think effective, expediency: I simply cut a strip of aluminum cooking foil, and wrapped it around the can base, being sure that there was overlap on the base that supports the ears of the can. I then bridged the strip (on both sides) with masking tape, ensuring good bonding along the length of the strip... It's inelegant, for sure, but achieves its end purpose, I think... I put the transmitter on 40-meters CW, and noted the tell tale frequency creep one time---however, the rig had been on for only 10 minutes, barely enough time to warm up. After about 90 minutes, I made a couple of QSOs, and called CQs, all-the-while monitoring myself on my R-4 receiver... I'm happy to report that ...so far, so good. I'll need more time to evaluate the results of all this, of course, but I'm encouraged. Perhaps the ultimate answer lies in operating the rigs in an environment that's warmer than the 49F that the basement was this afternoon! Hi Hi. Certainly, time will tell...I guess I could always place a small incandescent bulb somewhere inside the T-4X to help speed its heating /reaching operating temperature---but then that effort would be defeated, in large part, by the cooling fan that extracts air from the 2x6JB6A PA cage! (that rascal keeps the whole inside of the rig cool to the touch). ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes...
Hi Again Everone, ...Just a brief post-script to this thread... Monitoring the T-4X transmit frequency on my R-4 sure has highlighted the fact that load changes on the AC mains have a detrimental effect upon that receiver. Whenever the forced-air electric furnace / heat-pump in the adjoining room would start, the frequency of the R-4 would creep (and no, it wasn't my frequency that was changing, it was the station I was listrening to). A look at the schematic shows no obvious precautions taken with the R-4 to stabilize critical voltages. I wonder if anyone has ever added a VR tube after-the-fact to their R-4 to stabilize things...? And if so, was it worth the effort...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes...
Now..after you have used it some more with no issue, you need to remove the tin-foil to verify that the problem wasn't simply solved by a repeated re-installation of the standard can ! :) Curt Diane and Edward Swynar wrote: Good Day All, Well, I think taht an update may well be in order here, as to the outcome of my ...red-neck hillbilly (apologies to all you mountain-dwelling folk reading this) fix in the matter of improving the shielding of the PTO can in my Drake T-4X transmitter... In a word: it WORKS!!! SO FAR it works, anyway...again to-day I've completed several CQ calls on 40-meters CW, and was engaged in a couple of lengthy rag chews---and there was NONE of the previous intermittent tell-tale frequency jumpiness / intermittent creeping / jiggling... NOTHING. Needless-to-say, I'm very pleased. Keep in mind, however, that my situation here was probably unique from most others: I had repeatedly removed replaced the PTO shield cover here in efforts to track-down what turned-out to be at least one bad solder joint in the tank circuit. No doubt this served to compromise the integrity of the shielding of the can. Additionaly, my station is situated in a very cold basement environment, AND I have a fan extracting air out of the final 2x6JB6A PA cage, which by default, cools the entire inside of the transmitter... The rig's warm-up cycle was far from normal, as a result, I'm sure... Anyway, FWIW guys, don't neglect the critical effect that even the smallest of gap changes in shielding seams can have upon the field of that permeable-tuned tank coil, and by consequence, your transmit frequency. The aluminum strip shielding technique employed here may be far from eye-pleasing, but the benefits of its presence sure are a joy to the ear...! Hi Hi. Here's hoping that my travails may ultimately benefit another(s) in the Drake community... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Original Message - From: Diane and Edward Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:42 PM Subject: Drake Twins PTO Woes... Good Day All, Well, I took the T-4X off-line here to-day, set it up on the bench with the top cover removed, exposing the PTO can... I pondered the ways means of sealing the small gaps between the base of the can its metal attaching surface, with the intention of eliminating any consequent expansion/contraction effect(s) of the joints upon the oscillator frequency. I settled upon a rather crude, but I think effective, expediency: I simply cut a strip of aluminum cooking foil, and wrapped it around the can base, being sure that there was overlap on the base that supports the ears of the can. I then bridged the strip (on both sides) with masking tape, ensuring good bonding along the length of the strip... It's inelegant, for sure, but achieves its end purpose, I think... I put the transmitter on 40-meters CW, and noted the tell tale frequency creep one time---however, the rig had been on for only 10 minutes, barely enough time to warm up. After about 90 minutes, I made a couple of QSOs, and called CQs, all-the-while monitoring myself on my R-4 receiver... I'm happy to report that ...so far, so good. I'll need more time to evaluate the results of all this, of course, but I'm encouraged. Perhaps the ultimate answer lies in operating the rigs in an environment that's warmer than the 49F that the basement was this afternoon! Hi Hi. Certainly, time will tell...I guess I could always place a small incandescent bulb somewhere inside the T-4X to help speed its heating /reaching operating temperature---but then that effort would be defeated, in large part, by the cooling fan that extracts air from the 2x6JB6A PA cage! (that rascal keeps the whole inside of the rig cool to the touch). ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes...
Hi Curt, Oh my, but you can be oh so VERY cruel there...! Hi Hi But you're correct, of course: in order to properly verify / ascertain the success of the fix---or, correctly identify the infamous Red X (as it's dubbed in select circles of problem solving)---one needs to be able to turn the problem off, and then turn the problem on again, by repeating the methodology of said fix... But I think I'll pass here, thank-you very much! I am absolutely weary of removing the top enclosure off of the transmitter, wrestling with that can, AD NAUSEAM...time to make a few QSOs, continue monitoring, for now...! :) ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ * - Original Message - From: Curt Nixon cptc...@flash.net To: Diane and Edward Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes... Now..after you have used it some more with no issue, you need to remove the tin-foil to verify that the problem wasn't simply solved by a repeated re-installation of the standard can ! :) Curt Diane and Edward Swynar wrote: Good Day All, Well, I think taht an update may well be in order here, as to the outcome of my ...red-neck hillbilly (apologies to all you mountain-dwelling folk reading this) fix in the matter of improving the shielding of the PTO can in my Drake T-4X transmitter... In a word: it WORKS!!! SO FAR it works, anyway...again to-day I've completed several CQ calls on 40-meters CW, and was engaged in a couple of lengthy rag chews---and there was NONE of the previous intermittent tell-tale frequency jumpiness / intermittent creeping / jiggling... NOTHING. Needless-to-say, I'm very pleased. Keep in mind, however, that my situation here was probably unique from most others: I had repeatedly removed replaced the PTO shield cover here in efforts to track-down what turned-out to be at least one bad solder joint in the tank circuit. No doubt this served to compromise the integrity of the shielding of the can. Additionaly, my station is situated in a very cold basement environment, AND I have a fan extracting air out of the final 2x6JB6A PA cage, which by default, cools the entire inside of the transmitter... The rig's warm-up cycle was far from normal, as a result, I'm sure... Anyway, FWIW guys, don't neglect the critical effect that even the smallest of gap changes in shielding seams can have upon the field of that permeable-tuned tank coil, and by consequence, your transmit frequency. The aluminum strip shielding technique employed here may be far from eye-pleasing, but the benefits of its presence sure are a joy to the ear...! Hi Hi. Here's hoping that my travails may ultimately benefit another(s) in the Drake community... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Original Message - From: Diane and Edward Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:42 PM Subject: Drake Twins PTO Woes... Good Day All, Well, I took the T-4X off-line here to-day, set it up on the bench with the top cover removed, exposing the PTO can... I pondered the ways means of sealing the small gaps between the base of the can its metal attaching surface, with the intention of eliminating any consequent expansion/contraction effect(s) of the joints upon the oscillator frequency. I settled upon a rather crude, but I think effective, expediency: I simply cut a strip of aluminum cooking foil, and wrapped it around the can base, being sure that there was overlap on the base that supports the ears of the can. I then bridged the strip (on both sides) with masking tape, ensuring good bonding along the length of the strip... It's inelegant, for sure, but achieves its end purpose, I think... I put the transmitter on 40-meters CW, and noted the tell tale frequency creep one time---however, the rig had been on for only 10 minutes, barely enough time to warm up. After about 90 minutes, I made a couple of QSOs, and called CQs, all-the-while monitoring myself on my R-4 receiver... I'm happy to report that ...so far, so good. I'll need more time to evaluate the results of all this, of course, but I'm encouraged. Perhaps the ultimate answer lies in operating the rigs in an environment that's warmer than the 49F that the basement was this afternoon! Hi Hi. Certainly, time will tell...I guess I could always place a small incandescent bulb somewhere inside the T-4X to help speed its heating /reaching operating temperature---but then that effort would be defeated, in large part, by the cooling fan that extracts air from the 2x6JB6A PA cage! (that rascal keeps the whole inside of the rig cool to the touch). ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes...
Of course... Hope it hangs in there. One of these days I hope to catch you on the air and we can have the Drakes talk to each other! I do alot of CW with the SKCC group. Curt KU8L Diane and Edward Swynar wrote: Hi Curt, Oh my, but you can be oh so VERY cruel there...! Hi Hi But you're correct, of course: in order to properly verify / ascertain the success of the fix---or, correctly identify the infamous Red X (as it's dubbed in select circles of problem solving)---one needs to be able to turn the problem off, and then turn the problem on again, by repeating the methodology of said fix... But I think I'll pass here, thank-you very much! I am absolutely weary of removing the top enclosure off of the transmitter, wrestling with that can, AD NAUSEAM...time to make a few QSOs, continue monitoring, for now...! :) ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ * - Original Message - From: Curt Nixon cptc...@flash.net To: Diane and Edward Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes... Now..after you have used it some more with no issue, you need to remove the tin-foil to verify that the problem wasn't simply solved by a repeated re-installation of the standard can ! :) Curt Diane and Edward Swynar wrote: Good Day All, Well, I think taht an update may well be in order here, as to the outcome of my ...red-neck hillbilly (apologies to all you mountain-dwelling folk reading this) fix in the matter of improving the shielding of the PTO can in my Drake T-4X transmitter... In a word: it WORKS!!! SO FAR it works, anyway...again to-day I've completed several CQ calls on 40-meters CW, and was engaged in a couple of lengthy rag chews---and there was NONE of the previous intermittent tell-tale frequency jumpiness / intermittent creeping / jiggling... NOTHING. Needless-to-say, I'm very pleased. Keep in mind, however, that my situation here was probably unique from most others: I had repeatedly removed replaced the PTO shield cover here in efforts to track-down what turned-out to be at least one bad solder joint in the tank circuit. No doubt this served to compromise the integrity of the shielding of the can. Additionaly, my station is situated in a very cold basement environment, AND I have a fan extracting air out of the final 2x6JB6A PA cage, which by default, cools the entire inside of the transmitter... The rig's warm-up cycle was far from normal, as a result, I'm sure... Anyway, FWIW guys, don't neglect the critical effect that even the smallest of gap changes in shielding seams can have upon the field of that permeable-tuned tank coil, and by consequence, your transmit frequency. The aluminum strip shielding technique employed here may be far from eye-pleasing, but the benefits of its presence sure are a joy to the ear...! Hi Hi. Here's hoping that my travails may ultimately benefit another(s) in the Drake community... ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Original Message - From: Diane and Edward Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:42 PM Subject: Drake Twins PTO Woes... Good Day All, Well, I took the T-4X off-line here to-day, set it up on the bench with the top cover removed, exposing the PTO can... I pondered the ways means of sealing the small gaps between the base of the can its metal attaching surface, with the intention of eliminating any consequent expansion/contraction effect(s) of the joints upon the oscillator frequency. I settled upon a rather crude, but I think effective, expediency: I simply cut a strip of aluminum cooking foil, and wrapped it around the can base, being sure that there was overlap on the base that supports the ears of the can. I then bridged the strip (on both sides) with masking tape, ensuring good bonding along the length of the strip... It's inelegant, for sure, but achieves its end purpose, I think... I put the transmitter on 40-meters CW, and noted the tell tale frequency creep one time---however, the rig had been on for only 10 minutes, barely enough time to warm up. After about 90 minutes, I made a couple of QSOs, and called CQs, all-the-while monitoring myself on my R-4 receiver... I'm happy to report that ...so far, so good. I'll need more time to evaluate the results of all this, of course, but I'm encouraged. Perhaps the ultimate answer lies in operating the rigs in an environment that's warmer than the 49F that the basement was this afternoon! Hi Hi. Certainly
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes...
Hi Eddy - Can't argue with success! Hope it holds By the way, there IS voltage stabilization in the R-4, an 0B2 at V14. This supplies +150 VDC Regulated to the 100 kHz Calibrator, the PTO and the BAND oscillator. When you said that the frequency drifted 'slowly' when the voltage drops and drifts 'quickly' when the voltage comes back up, I was on board with your filament regulation idea as that's the sort of behavior I would expect. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Diane and Edward Swynar wrote: Hi Again Everone, ...Just a brief post-script to this thread... Monitoring the T-4X transmit frequency on my R-4 sure has highlighted the fact that load changes on the AC mains have a detrimental effect upon that receiver. Whenever the forced-air electric furnace / heat-pump in the adjoining room would start, the frequency of the R-4 would creep (and no, it wasn't my frequency that was changing, it was the station I was listrening to). A look at the schematic shows no obvious precautions taken with the R-4 to stabilize critical voltages. I wonder if anyone has ever added a VR tube after-the-fact to their R-4 to stabilize things...? And if so, was it worth the effort...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Drake Twins PTO Woes...
Good Day All, Well, I took the T-4X off-line here to-day, set it up on the bench with the top cover removed, exposing the PTO can... I pondered the ways means of sealing the small gaps between the base of the can its metal attaching surface, with the intention of eliminating any consequent expansion/contraction effect(s) of the joints upon the oscillator frequency. I settled upon a rather crude, but I think effective, expediency: I simply cut a strip of aluminum cooking foil, and wrapped it around the can base, being sure that there was overlap on the base that supports the ears of the can. I then bridged the strip (on both sides) with masking tape, ensuring good bonding along the length of the strip... It's inelegant, for sure, but achieves its end purpose, I think... I put the transmitter on 40-meters CW, and noted the tell tale frequency creep one time---however, the rig had been on for only 10 minutes, barely enough time to warm up. After about 90 minutes, I made a couple of QSOs, and called CQs, all-the-while monitoring myself on my R-4 receiver... I'm happy to report that ...so far, so good. I'll need more time to evaluate the results of all this, of course, but I'm encouraged. Perhaps the ultimate answer lies in operating the rigs in an environment that's warmer than the 49F that the basement was this afternoon! Hi Hi. Certainly, time will tell...I guess I could always place a small incandescent bulb somewhere inside the T-4X to help speed its heating /reaching operating temperature---but then that effort would be defeated, in large part, by the cooling fan that extracts air from the 2x6JB6A PA cage! (that rascal keeps the whole inside of the rig cool to the touch). ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Drake Twins
Hi Guys, I've been on 160- and 40-meters here with the Drake Twins, passing the time in casual QSOs, pending the termination of the annual ...grass harvest(!) here that will allow me to unroll my ground radials atop the lawn for use in my topband array... The Drakes make for a very sweet set-up on CW---I've been receiving nothing but compliments from the Hams I've been working as to the quality of the signal. I've even been contemplating setting the Twins up in transceive mode in CW---never did that before in that mode. I wonder how that'll work out...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins
Eddy, You will love the Drake line for CW. Just make sure that the Tx and Rx are tracking. There is an alignment procedure in the manual (C-56?). 73 Gene K1NR On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:12:56 -0400 Edward Swynar gswy...@durham.net wrote: Hi Guys, I've been on 160- and 40-meters here with the Drake Twins, passing the time in casual QSOs, pending the termination of the annual ...grass harvest(!) here that will allow me to unroll my ground radials atop the lawn for use in my topband array... The Drakes make for a very sweet set-up on CW---I've been receiving nothing but compliments from the Hams I've been working as to the quality of the signal. I've even been contemplating setting the Twins up in transceive mode in CW---never did that before in that mode. I wonder how that'll work out...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins
Hi Gene, I understand from what Garey said sometime earlier that the CW offset frequency between the receiver transmuitter on CW is equal to (roughly) the frequency of the sidetone generated by the T-4X---i.e. 800- 900-Hz. That being the case, do you listen for callers on LSB, or USB with the receiver in transceive mode...? And has anyone ever come up with an add-on RIT circuit for the R-4 to compensate for any all potential frequency chasing whilst in transceive...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ** - Original Message - From: Eugene Balinski euge...@nni.com To: Edward Swynar gswy...@durham.net; drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins Eddy, You will love the Drake line for CW. Just make sure that the Tx and Rx are tracking. There is an alignment procedure in the manual (C-56?). 73 Gene K1NR On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:12:56 -0400 Edward Swynar gswy...@durham.net wrote: Hi Guys, I've been on 160- and 40-meters here with the Drake Twins, passing the time in casual QSOs, pending the termination of the annual ...grass harvest(!) here that will allow me to unroll my ground radials atop the lawn for use in my topband array... The Drakes make for a very sweet set-up on CW---I've been receiving nothing but compliments from the Hams I've been working as to the quality of the signal. I've even been contemplating setting the Twins up in transceive mode in CW---never did that before in that mode. I wonder how that'll work out...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins
Hi Eddy They really are a nice set up, and the B's have some of the best recovered audio. I've got A and C lines also, but enjoy the B the best John K5MO At 08:12 AM 10/17/2010, Edward Swynar wrote: Hi Guys, I've been on 160- and 40-meters here with the Drake Twins, passing the time in casual QSOs, pending the termination of the annual ...grass harvest(!) here that will allow me to unroll my ground radials atop the lawn for use in my topband array... The Drakes make for a very sweet set-up on CW---I've been receiving nothing but compliments from the Hams I've been working as to the quality of the signal. I've even been contemplating setting the Twins up in transceive mode in CW---never did that before in that mode. I wonder how that'll work out...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
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Hi Eddy: You will notice that all of the end points of the passbands line up on LSB so that is the setting for CW. That way, you never have to adjust the passband variable when changing from wide to narrow. I use the 2.4K setting for scanning then reduce to 1.2 or narrower for crowded conditions. The RIT function is just go to seperate control and adjust the rx independently. Been using my a versions since 67 and mostly for CW. I rarely ever use them in transceive mode. Its just more flexible to be able to adjust the rx without worrying about the tx frequency--and spotting is very fast once you get used to it. FWIW Curt KU8L Edward Swynar wrote: Hi Gene, I understand from what Garey said sometime earlier that the CW offset frequency between the receiver transmuitter on CW is equal to (roughly) the frequency of the sidetone generated by the T-4X---i.e. 800- 900-Hz. That being the case, do you listen for callers on LSB, or USB with the receiver in transceive mode...? And has anyone ever come up with an add-on RIT circuit for the R-4 to compensate for any all potential frequency chasing whilst in transceive...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ** - Original Message - From: Eugene Balinski euge...@nni.com To: Edward Swynar gswy...@durham.net; drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins Eddy, You will love the Drake line for CW. Just make sure that the Tx and Rx are tracking. There is an alignment procedure in the manual (C-56?). 73 Gene K1NR On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:12:56 -0400 Edward Swynar gswy...@durham.net wrote: Hi Guys, I've been on 160- and 40-meters here with the Drake Twins, passing the time in casual QSOs, pending the termination of the annual ...grass harvest(!) here that will allow me to unroll my ground radials atop the lawn for use in my topband array... The Drakes make for a very sweet set-up on CW---I've been receiving nothing but compliments from the Hams I've been working as to the quality of the signal. I've even been contemplating setting the Twins up in transceive mode in CW---never did that before in that mode. I wonder how that'll work out...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins
Eddy - I use the R-4B and T-4XB in SEPARATE mode on CW. The SPOT position allows you to tune the transmitter to the receiver frequency, just like in the old days. Personally, I don't MUTE the receiver and listen to my own signal while transmitting. It's a little loud, but the AVC does a remarkable job of keeping it down, I just slide the phones a little in front of my ears instead of right over them. The biggest problem with transceive operation on CW is that just about every SSB transmitter generates CW by shifting the Carrier Oscillator to within the filter passband and unbalancing the Balanced Modulator. Unfortunately some brands use the USB filter, and some use the LSB filter, so if your transmitter uses LSB (like the Drakes), and the other station uses the USB filter, you end up a couple of kHz away from each other. So SEPARATE and SPOT is the way to go for CW. For SSB, you can use TRANSCEIVE with either the XMTR or RCVR control. If you want the receiver to MUTE when you transmit, just connect a plain old audio patch cable between the MUTE jacks on the receiver and transmitter, and put the receiver in EXT MUTE position. The Transceive Align procedure in the T-4XB manual puts the two Carrier Oscillators on the same frequency, to ensure SSB transceive. This adjustment is NOT 'permanent' and will drift over time/temperature. Color coded crystals help considerably, IF they're the SAME color. If they're different, they make things worse! The B-Line was designed to use LSB for CW, which is why the 'X' is next to the LSB filter and 'CW' on the FUNCTION switch on the transmitter. If your Passband tuner is aligned properly, setting the PASSBAND knob over the LSB dots will allow you to change filter bandwidths without changing this knob. On the narrowest b/w, you may want to tweak it a little to the frequency tone you prefer. This works great, IF you tune in the other station for about an 800-900 Hz tone (too high for most people), _AND_ the other station (if also using a transceiver) uses LSB for CW. This worked just fine back in the 60's, when LSB was 'the convention', and most probably used separate control for CW anyway! With the arrival of the solid state transceivers though, this convention wasn't always followed, and the 200 Hz wide filters with 1:1 shape factors (!) that some use didn't help at all. Bottom line, use separate control for CW. It only takes a second to match your tone to that of the other station with SPOT, and you're free to adjust your receiver to avoid QRM or just change the tone if you feel like it without worrying... Contest operation is really the only place transceive is nicer, and with the narrow filters it's almost impossible to achieve. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Edward Swynar wrote: Hi Gene, I understand from what Garey said sometime earlier that the CW offset frequency between the receiver transmuitter on CW is equal to (roughly) the frequency of the sidetone generated by the T-4X---i.e. 800- 900-Hz. That being the case, do you listen for callers on LSB, or USB with the receiver in transceive mode...? And has anyone ever come up with an add-on RIT circuit for the R-4 to compensate for any all potential frequency chasing whilst in transceive...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ ** - Original Message - From: Eugene Balinskieuge...@nni.com To: Edward Swynargswy...@durham.net;drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Drake Twins Eddy, You will love the Drake line for CW. Just make sure that the Tx and Rx are tracking. There is an alignment procedure in the manual (C-56?). 73 Gene K1NR On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 08:12:56 -0400 Edward Swynargswy...@durham.net wrote: Hi Guys, I've been on 160- and 40-meters here with the Drake Twins, passing the time in casual QSOs, pending the termination of the annual ...grass harvest(!) here that will allow me to unroll my ground radials atop the lawn for use in my topband array... The Drakes make for a very sweet set-up on CW---I've been receiving nothing but compliments from the Hams I've been working as to the quality of the signal. I've even been contemplating setting the Twins up in transceive mode in CW---never did that before in that mode. I wonder how that'll work out...? ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Drake Twins Status 22-NOV-09
I haven't posted an update to my leisurely refurbishment repair of the Drake T-4X / R-4A that I bought at the Shelby Hamfest in September. I picked up a few likely replacement tubes at the Benson, NC hamfest last weekend and replaced the one known-bad 12BA6 (V4) that was in the receiver. The receiver is now re-capped and all tubes were checked - replaced the aforementioned V4. Hooked it up to an antenna and am happy to say that I get good signals on 80 - 10 now (well, I can peak the noise on 10, anyway :) ). I've lost ambition for the day, so the alignment will proceed at a later time. It looks great and definitely receives on all bands, which was my goal for today. The T-4X has emerged from its bath bake but still has some issues. I can hear the sidetone again, but CW is definitely working now since I replaced the two caps-in-a-can with new caps mounted under the chassis - out of sight. This rig, although much newer than the receiver, is not in as good shape cosmetically, as cleaning it revealed lots of discoloration to the copper plate on the chassis, so I'm not going to be a real stickler with this one and will go more for getting it working. The meter seems to be working alright (thought it was sticking before). I can't get the receiver to work with the switch set to Transmitter, so I may have to go in and check the master oscillator or the VFO to make sure they've got output. I've got strong plate current when using the receiver. Anyway, I'm definitely taking my time with these: yardwork and other interests/responsibilities keep me from rushing here. I'm doing it for the fun, so no worries! 73, Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, but many electrons were diverted. If this message appears, then it came from my mobile computer!___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Eddy - Yes, this was only in the T-4X. Later models added a switch contact to short the key line in SSB so the key could be left plugged in. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com EP Swynar wrote: Hi Garey... REALLY...?! I don't recall seeing that in the manual, but I'll certainly re-check --- that, AND try the rig on phone WITHOUT the key being plugged in... But it STILL sounds kinda strange to me! Hi Hi. ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ * - Original Message - From: Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Drakelist drakelist@zerobeat.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW If you have a KEY plugged in, it must be closed (or unplugged) for SSB. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Garey Barrell wrote: Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Does the transmitter work in TUNE mode? 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com EP Swynar wrote: EP Swynar [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Gang, Well, I guess I'm down to having to check the resistances voltages of the different parts of the tubes in audio chain of the T-4X transmitter... ZERO AUDIO from the rig, despite my bypassing of all of the related circuitry going directly to the mic elements with alligator-clipped wires...! Any suggestions from you more seasoned veterans...? ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Dan Ringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On 4 Jul 2008 at 7:35, EP Swynar wrote: Hi Dan, Sounds like ...sound advice (pun intended!) to me... I shall do exactly that, probably later to-day. Thanks for the note, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ PS: Were these amplified D-104 mics some sorta hang-over from the old ...louder-is-better CB days...?! Let us know how it works out, Eddy. Amplified microphones became popular in the late 70's and early 80's, concurrent with, and perhaps because of the CB Craze: The amateur radio version of all this was that some of the ricebox rigs, needed higher audio input to operate . They started using preamplifiers at the microphone input to get it. Some did it by putting the preamp in the microphone (Icom) others put it in the rig. The CB version was that power mics were good and the louder you were the, uh, louder you were. This was not a completely untrue thought. Good modulation is, . . . good, but easily abused. In any event, the Drake transmitters (and probably transceivers, but I've never use one) responded well to some of the then current microphones, including the unamplified Astatic D-104's. That's what I use on my T4XB, with good results. I use a Heil 781 microphone through a Behringer 802 preamp/mixer.eq on my Icom 740 to get an equivalent result. Clearly Drake had a better idea! Dan, K8WV --- Darrell (Dan) Ringer Attorney at Law ABA Solo Practitioner of the Year Past-President, WV State Bar WV Lawyer of the Year Fellow, WV Bar Foundation 823 Fairmont Road Morgantown, WV 26501 304-292-1999 FAX 304-292-3372 = Watch THE LAW WORKS (http://www.thelawworks.org) on WV Public Television, Thursdays at 8:30 p.m. = -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
I believe the amplifier in the D-104 was to allow the mic to be used with radios with low impedance mic inputs, one mic fits all. The amp had a lot of gain. I think the CB'ers just cashed in on that fact which made the D-104 popular with them ... disable the ALC, crank the mic gain up, grab a beer and cigarette, and yelling from 10 feet across the room splatter up and down 5 channels ... loud and proud. I have several D-104's and the ones with amps have the amp bypassed, they are not required. 73, Gary
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:44:50 -0400, Dan Ringer wrote: Amplified microphones became popular in the late 70's and early 80's, concurrent with, and perhaps because of the CB Craze: In the case of the D104, the amplifier is an imedance matching buffer with some gain. This was done to allow the microphone to be used with the low impedance input of solid state CB rigs. The amateur radio version of all this was that some of the ricebox rigs, needed higher audio input to operate . They started using preamplifiers at the microphone input to get it. Some did it by putting the preamp in the microphone (Icom) others put it in the rig. This was also a trend in the commercial radio market. I'm not sure why they went that way, but perhaps because it made dynamic mics interchangable with electret. There's also the possibility that they did it because it's easier to keep induced noise out of the mic cord when the mic circuit is run at a higher lever. I've got some old GE Phoenix radios that have a dual input, pre-amped and non-preamped. The CB version was that power mics were good and the louder you were the, uh, louder you were. This was not a completely untrue thought. Good modulation is, . . . good, but easily abused. CB ops tend to like to keep the mic sitting on the table and just reach over and push the button. Of course, this creates a signal-to-noise ratio issue. You could always tell what they were watching on TV, how many dogs they had, whether or not the wife and kids were home, etc. You were a big dog if people could hear your click-click rotor box turning while your were talking. The effect is even worse with compressor mics like some of the Turner models. And then, there's the concept of swing - turn the mic up and get more swing - the more the better, right? Splatter? What's that? Clearly Drake had a better idea! Was there ever any doubt? :) 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:02:59 -0400, Gary Poland wrote: I believe the amplifier in the D-104 was to allow the mic to be used with radios with low impedance mic inputs, one mic fits all. The amp had a lot of gain. I think the CB'ers just cashed in on that fact which made the D-104 popular with them ... disable the ALC, crank the mic gain up, grab a beer and cigarette, and yelling from 10 feet across the room splatter up and down 5 channels ... loud and proud. I have several D-104's and the ones with amps have the amp bypassed, they are not required. Gee, Gary, I think I just said that... :) 73 -Jim -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
The D 104 I use currently works well with the 4 C line and the TR-7. Like the other guys, I rewired the mic and bypassed the preamp in the base of the stand. The reports are usually better than the Shure 444. 73 de W4DL Mike ex AK7P * WA9SWF * WN9SWF
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Eddy - The mic amplifier came about primarily because of the solid-state transmitter. The D-104 and other similar mic's were designed to drive very high input impedance (i.e., tube) mic amplifiers, typically 500 k ohms. These mics generated several volts of audio at these impedance levels with no additional amplification. Solid state amps, on the other hand, had input impedances of 500 ohms or so, and these mics were unable to drive them. So some mic manufacturers installed amplifiers, not so much for gain, but to allow them to drive low impedance loads. A secondary effect was that the bare mic's frequency response was highly dependent upon the actual load impedance, and of course the internal amplifier was able to reflect an ideal load for the mic element. So the amplifier was a good solution all around. The gain control allowed the amplified mic to drive BOTH the low impedance radios at the relatively low level needed (typically hundreds of millivolts) AND the high impedance radios at the high level needed (typically a volt or more) simply by adjusting the gain. The constant input impedance of the internal preamp allowed the mic element itself to have a constant frequency response regardless of the radio it was connected to. You can either use the amplifier or not, as long as you adjust the preamp control correctly. Bypassing the preamp completely is one option, and the input impedance of the T-4X results in a good frequency response from the D-104. Depending upon your voice characteristics, you might want to add a resistor in series with the mic input to tailor the response somewhat. If you leave the preamp in place, you can set the mic gain appropriately by setting the GAIN control on the T-4X to about 10-11 o'clock, and then adjusting the preamp control so that normal speech kicks the Plate meter to about 100 - 150 mA on peaks. 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Hi Dan, Sounds like ...sound advice (pun intended!) to me... I shall do exactly that, probably later to-day. Thanks for the note, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ PS: Were these amplified D-104 mics some sorta hang-over from the old ...louder-is-better CB days...?! -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Guess we think alike huh? HI HI
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Hi All; From what I have seen know of, the Astatic G push-to-talk stand was un-amplified. The T-UG8 PTT Stand was amplified but for hi-Z inputs. The T-UG9 PTT stand was amplified and universal, Hi-Z es Lo-Z. All stands could be mounted with a D-104 Xtal hi-z crystal mike head or a 10D dynamic or 10C Crystal or Ceramic, I forget which now. All good mikes, I used just a D-104 head on a Astatic stand(not PTT either) on my AM G-28 Gonset, works great! 73... Rich WA2RQY Thanks es 73Rich WA2RQY/4 (1961) WA2RQY's confusion Radio Web-Page Http://members.aol.com/rlucch2098/index.html Ham Radio Manuals: http://myradioroom.com/hamradiomanuals.html Ol' Stuff Web-Page http://myradioroom.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep those heaters on
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Steve Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Most of the Motorola radios I worked on in the factory and in field service had amplified mics, including the the Mocat CB radios. I tend to use the non-amplified D104 mics with my older vacuum state rigs, and the amplified ones with the newer Ten Tecs. Either way, they work great. Of course, the amplifiers need to be wired correctly. I was the tech there at Schaumburg who tested the first 144 amplified CB mics sent up from the Puerto Rico plant. Not one of them worked. I guess you could really call that gross ineptitude! I also have good results with the Shure 444 mics, and those have a switch on the bottom to set the output impedance. Less trouble than the Astatic preamp. Steve WA9JML -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:06:54 -0500, Steve Berg wrote: I also have good results with the Shure 444 mics, and those have a switch on the bottom to set the output impedance. Less trouble than the Astatic preamp The 444D has the switch. The 444 (no D) is - usually - high impedance only. I've got both variants. The black 444D is a nice match to the TR7, but I've been told the D104 sounds better. I'm running it on the Hi-Z input, which already has a 470K resistor, so combined with the added 470K in the mic the D104 element is loaded by close to a meg. 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:47:23 -0400, Gary Poland wrote: Guess we think alike huh? HI HI Great minds. -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Seems to be a consensus :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Gary Poland wrote: Guess we think alike huh? HI HI -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:48:09 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The T-UG8 PTT Stand was amplified but for hi-Z inputs. The T-UG9 PTT stand was amplified and universal, Hi-Z es Lo-Z. From what I've read, the amplifier was essentially the same. The UG9 stand added extra switch contacts and wires in the mic cable for those fancy CB rigs with bizarre switching. 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
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Has anyone else noticed the irony of a thread titled Drake Twins on CW turning to a discussion of microphones? 73 es a happy 4th to all! Lee WB6SSW ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507)
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Steve Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hey, those keys and bugs need to cool off now and then. Steve WA9JML [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else noticed the irony of a thread titled Drake Twins on CW turning to a discussion of microphones? 73 es a happy 4th to all! Lee WB6SSW ** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.135 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 7:19 PM -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
EP Swynar [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Gang, Well, I guess I'm down to having to check the resistances voltages of the different parts of the tubes in audio chain of the T-4X transmitter... ZERO AUDIO from the rig, despite my bypassing of all of the related circuitry going directly to the mic elements with alligator-clipped wires...! Any suggestions from you more seasoned veterans...? ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ * - Original Message - From: Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:45:00 -0400, Dan Ringer wrote: Eddy, I suggest simply bypassing the amp on the D104. The T4Xany doesn't need it. I use an unamplified D104 and get great audio reports on my T4XB. I agree completely. Take that horrid amp out and nail it to the wall, put a 470K resistor in series with the audio lead, and that D104 will sound wonderful. 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Does the transmitter work in TUNE mode? 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com EP Swynar wrote: EP Swynar [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Gang, Well, I guess I'm down to having to check the resistances voltages of the different parts of the tubes in audio chain of the T-4X transmitter... ZERO AUDIO from the rig, despite my bypassing of all of the related circuitry going directly to the mic elements with alligator-clipped wires...! Any suggestions from you more seasoned veterans...? ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
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john [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Eddy, Does the microphone work (check output with a scope) John K5MO -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
[drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Good Day All, I had a real treat here the past few days, setting up operating my T-4X transmitter R-4 receiver beneath the gazebo in the backyard, working Field Day Canada Day out in the fresh air on CW... What a wonderful pair of rigs for CW --- they really complement each other, and in more ways than one! I'd never had the T-4X even on before, until this past weekend (I acquired both rigs last December), and was quite impressed with it... I had no luck getting the rig to operate on 'phone, though...I guess I'll have to play around with the wires coming out the base of the amplified D-104 some more, before I try to get into the rig itself (I just HATE those amplified mics!). The PTT seems to work A-OK --- there's just no audio! Anyway, so far, as a CW station, all I have to say (again!) is, WHERE HAVE THESE RIGS BEEN ALL OF MY LIFE...?! Hi Hi. They're wonderful... ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Dan Ringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On 3 Jul 2008 at 15:24, EP Swynar wrote: What a wonderful pair of rigs for CW --- they really complement each other, and in more ways than one! I'd never had the T-4X even on before,until this past weekend (I acquired both rigs last December), and was quite impressed with it... I had no luck getting the rig to operate on 'phone, though...I guess I'll have to play around with the wires coming out the base of the amplified D-104 some more, before I try to get into the rig itself (I just HATE those amplified mics!). The PTT seems to work A-OK --- there's just no audio! Eddy, I suggest simply bypassing the amp on the D104. The T4Xany doesn't need it. I use an unamplified D104 and get great audio reports on my T4XB. Dan, K8WV --- Darrell (Dan) Ringer Attorney at Law ABA Solo Practitioner of the Year Past-President, WV State Bar WV Lawyer of the Year Fellow, WV Bar Foundation 823 Fairmont Road Morgantown, WV 26501 304-292-1999 FAX 304-292-3372 = Watch THE LAW WORKS (http://www.thelawworks.org) on WV Public Television, Thursdays at 8:30 p.m. = -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:45:00 -0400, Dan Ringer wrote: Eddy, I suggest simply bypassing the amp on the D104. The T4Xany doesn't need it. I use an unamplified D104 and get great audio reports on my T4XB. I agree completely. Take that horrid amp out and nail it to the wall, put a 470K resistor in series with the audio lead, and that D104 will sound wonderful. 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
In a message dated 7/3/2008 7:33:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Dan Ringer wrote: Eddy, I suggest simply bypassing the amp on the D104. The T4Xany doesn't need it. I use an unamplified D104 and get great audio reports on my T4XB. Besides, them amplified D104's were made with CB'ers in mind at the time. Ham radio rigs, they are not needed. Ron wb1hga Well Maybe but I bought the Preamp from Astatic that went into the base of a G stand(D-104 is head alone), had to drill a few holes, one for access to the gain pot another on top for on/off switch, best $7.00 I ever spent. My New twins(1977) seemed to need more audio for some reason. Now I could talk a bit lower to accomplish the same. Too high a setting causes more background noise, not good, hi! If you got an amplified base, give it a try! GL es 73.. Rich WA2RQY/4
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins On CW
Jim Shorney [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:13:13 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Maybe but I bought the Preamp from Astatic Heck, I would have given you one if you really wanted it... :) My New twins(1977) seemed to need more audio for some reason. I haven't tried a D104 on the twins yet, but every other rig I've tried one on has not needed the amp. Currently I'm using a Golden Eagle version on the TR7, sans preamp. plus 470K resistor. Plenty of audio. I'll probably move the Golden Eagle over to the HyGain 3750, as it's a better style match. Keeping my eyes open for a Silver Eagle for the TR7. Still using Shure 444s on the C-Line and TR6. Although I've got an EV RE-20 I'm gonna hook up to something... Since I've got plenty of standard T-UG8/D104 around here, I'll probably try one on the twins someday. Without the amp, of couse. 73 -Jim NU0C -- Submissions:drakelist@zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
[drakelist] Drake Twins
Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins
john [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- You've come back from the dark side. Welcome to the light, Eddy! :-) 73 and Merry Christmas John K5MO At 09:46 AM 12/23/2007, you wrote: Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Drake Twins
Eddy, congratulations. I bought a very nice C-line over a year ago with the C-4 station console. The R-4C hears extremely well, and the drakes are my go to 20 meter rig. Gotta love those tubes on a cold winter morning. 73 WB9NJB R. Hunter Ellington, Esq. Shareholder Gorrell Giles PC 1331 Seventeenth Street, Suite 1000 Denver, Colorado 80202 (303) 996-6585 Direct (303) 996-2680 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Wright Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins Hello Merry Christmas as well. I too own the twins r4b t4xb and they work just as well now as they did new . Great rigs to use on 160 I use them their the most ... Hope you get to use you pair just as much.. Best 73 . Ted n3zrx EP Swynar wrote: Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
RE: [drakelist] Drake Twins
Peter Bent [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- And Happy New Year! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins john [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- You've come back from the dark side. Welcome to the light, Eddy! :-) 73 and Merry Christmas John K5MO At 09:46 AM 12/23/2007, you wrote: Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins
Larry Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Ted, I have the R-4B and T-4xb here, also, that I traded for a year or so ago. I really enjoy using them. Question: How high do you have to advance the transmitter gain control in order to get full output? Mine must be turned to about 4 o'clock which tells me that maybe the transmitter needs an alignment job, or I have some soft tubes. Do you have the 30 meter crystal for your receiver? I get very little output on that band when transceiving. If I detune the receiver preamp I can get full output, but the receiver is not peaked up for 30 meters. Thanks Merry Christmas, Larry W4LK Ted Wright wrote: Hello Merry Christmas as well. I too own the twins r4b t4xb and they work just as well now as they did new . Great rigs to use on 160 I use them their the most ... Hope you get to use you pair just as much.. Best 73 . Ted n3zrx EP Swynar wrote: Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins
Ted Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Larry. I set mine at about two to two thirty to gain max power out this seems to do well. If you turn it past their it shows no more gain.. Ted Larry Kirkland wrote: Larry Kirkland [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Ted, I have the R-4B and T-4xb here, also, that I traded for a year or so ago. I really enjoy using them. Question: How high do you have to advance the transmitter gain control in order to get full output? Mine must be turned to about 4 o'clock which tells me that maybe the transmitter needs an alignment job, or I have some soft tubes. Do you have the 30 meter crystal for your receiver? I get very little output on that band when transceiving. If I detune the receiver preamp I can get full output, but the receiver is not peaked up for 30 meters. Thanks Merry Christmas, Larry W4LK Ted Wright wrote: Hello Merry Christmas as well. I too own the twins r4b t4xb and they work just as well now as they did new . Great rigs to use on 160 I use them their the most ... Hope you get to use you pair just as much.. Best 73 . Ted n3zrx EP Swynar wrote: Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] Drake Twins
Welcome back on earth Eddy! :) Using a very fine condition C-line here beside TR7 and the R4C is the best receiver I ever had. But mine has a lot of Sherwood mods, including the CW-roofing filter. I was challenged to sell it, as I consider buying the Elecraft K3. But am not too sure if I will let that C-line go Merry Christmas to all Drake-friends and a happy 2008! Dick PA2DW _ Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens EP Swynar Verzonden: zondag 23 december 2007 15:46 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: [drakelist] Drake Twins Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins
You have seen the light! Merry Christmas, 73 de W4DLMike Pompano Beach, FL USA - Original Message - From: EP Swynar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: [drakelist] Drake Twins Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
Re: [drakelist] Drake Twins
Eddy, I've had my T-4XB and R-4B(original owner) for 40 years and they are still a dream to operate. Enjoy them. Merry Christmas! Bill, WB9CAC Tempe, AZ EP Swynar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good Morning All, Well, I spent the better part of the day yesterday retrieving a set of Drake Twins from a fellow Ham living some 2+ hours away from me (one way!)...was the drive worth the bother...? In a word, YES! My initial impression of the receiver (a first generation all-tube R-4) is VERY positive: I love the passband tuning feature, and that calibrated main tuning knob --- in 1-KHz markers --- is clever, and effective. It's also a very pleasing rig to the eye, and looks FB sitting next to its matching T-4X transmitter. I have no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that, had I known better back in 1983 --- when I stood ...at the crossroads and took the quantum technological leap from my Heathkit SB-400 Hallicrafters S-77A, to a brand new Yaesu FT-980 --- I would surely have shopped around for a good used set of Twins then... I was really racked with guilt about throwing my lot in with a microprocessed technology that the FT-980 presented, having had the ability of repairing anything everything in my shack up to that time...and, like a fool, I did not even consider the possibilities of taking the Drake route, and instead, pondered the chances of buying a good, used Collins S-line, instead, back then. I ended-up passing the S-line by, because it did not incorporate 160-meters. Well, it took some 24 years, alright, but an old wrong has been righted at VE3CUI --- and I could not be happier with this self-presented Christmas gift, I can assure you! Merry Christmas to all, my vy ~73!~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
RE: [drakelist] Drake Twins
I've had my SPR-4 for 8 months but it has been in my family since bought new 30 years ago. It still looks brand new. Unfortunately the audio stopped working and I'm a newbie (help J ). I have a TR4 too, soon to be resurrected when I get a variac. 73 Steve (soon to be licensed in Jan) Ft. Lauderdale, FL From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Ellis Eddy, I've had my T-4XB and R-4B(original owner) for 40 years and they are still a dream to operate. Enjoy them. Merry Christmas! Bill, WB9CAC Tempe, AZ
[drakelist] Drake Twins for Sale!
T4X and R4 very good to excellent condition original 98% scratch free with AC4 supply and MS-4 speaker 500.00 160 and 17, 10 crystals install in both units with manuals T4XB and R4B VG to Excellent Condition with MS-4 AC4 98% scratch free 160 and 10, and 17 added crystals 600.00 Personal favorite R4C serial 22--- this has slot in side for am later version.T4XC 160 and 10 meters , 250 and 500 cw filters installed R4CVG to Excellent. Scratch free with manuals. 700.00 L 4 with supply Excellent Plus serial 007 runs 3-400Z originals Talked to Bill Frost at Drake you can upgrade 3-500Z tubes, Just plug them in This is a nice amp for am 400 watts with no problem. 600.00 MN 2000 tuner Excellent Plus 10-80 2 kW with manual 240.00 All radios our problem free Call for details. Plus shipping or Pickup in Louisville KY 502-339-0422 after 4:00 Est Phil office 502-361-6907 Trades I am looking for KenwoodAmp TL922A with 10 meters, and or Icom 751A late version.
