Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-15 Thread Andrea Bollini
Il 15/08/2013 12:56, Anja Le Blanc ha scritto:
> Hello,
>
> Some update:
> After fighting dependencies, especially logging libraries, I discovered
> that not only SolrJ is using Lucene but DSpace uses it directly in its
> search. And naturally Lucene has change a good deal between versions.
This is true only if you don't use discovery. If you turn on discovery 
you can just ignore the "legacy" dspace search system based on lucene.
Discovery was available out-of-box in 1.8 for XMLUI (just require some 
configuration changes). If you use JSPUI you have two routes:
- upgrade to dspace 3.x where discovery is available
- use or look to the dspace-cris 1.8.2 sources where discovery is 
present 
https://github.com/CILEA/DSpace/releases/tag/dspace-cris-1.8.2.1-beta

Andrea

> End of that road. I am now rewriting our ElasticSearch interaction using
> HTTP posts/gets to get rid of the ElasticSearch dependency.
>
> Best regards,
> Anja
>
>
> On 13/08/2013 15:35, Anja Le Blanc wrote:
>> Hi Helix,
>>
>> We were using ES 20.6 before - that did not cause a problem. I got the
>> same dependency as you in Maven just with a different version. They just
>> have one 'catch all' jar or ES.
>>
>> At the moment I am considering upgrading Solrj to 3.5 which does not
>> have a dependency on Lucene. That might solve the problem without having
>> to upgrade Solr itself.
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>> Anja
>>
>>
>> On 13/08/2013 14:07, helix84 wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Anja Le Blanc
>>>  wrote:
 Your question is a very good one. I entirely agree. Unfortunately I am not
 aware of a ElasticSearch client library.
>>> This is what we use for ES stats:
>>> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/dspace-3.1/dspace-api/pom.xml#L421
>>>
>>> Here's the JavaDoc and source:
>>> http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/
>>> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/
>>>
>>>
 Before integrating ElasticSearch in our DSpace I have not worked with ES
 before, meaning I followed the guides
 (http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/) and looking at the
 Maven repository (http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.elasticsearch) I
 can't see a java client lib either.
>>> Does this help?
>>>
>>> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/client/
>>> http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/elasticsearch/HEAD/org/elasticsearch/client/transport/TransportClient.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> ~~helix84
>>>
>>> Compulsory reading: DSpace Mailing List Etiquette
>>> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/Mailing+List+Etiquette
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-15 Thread Anja Le Blanc
Hello,

Some update:
After fighting dependencies, especially logging libraries, I discovered 
that not only SolrJ is using Lucene but DSpace uses it directly in its 
search. And naturally Lucene has change a good deal between versions.
End of that road. I am now rewriting our ElasticSearch interaction using 
HTTP posts/gets to get rid of the ElasticSearch dependency.

Best regards,
Anja


On 13/08/2013 15:35, Anja Le Blanc wrote:
> Hi Helix,
>
> We were using ES 20.6 before - that did not cause a problem. I got the
> same dependency as you in Maven just with a different version. They just
> have one 'catch all' jar or ES.
>
> At the moment I am considering upgrading Solrj to 3.5 which does not
> have a dependency on Lucene. That might solve the problem without having
> to upgrade Solr itself.
>
> Thanks a lot.
> Anja
>
>
> On 13/08/2013 14:07, helix84 wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Anja Le Blanc
>>  wrote:
>>> Your question is a very good one. I entirely agree. Unfortunately I am not
>>> aware of a ElasticSearch client library.
>>
>> This is what we use for ES stats:
>> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/dspace-3.1/dspace-api/pom.xml#L421
>>
>> Here's the JavaDoc and source:
>> http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/
>> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/
>>
>>
>>> Before integrating ElasticSearch in our DSpace I have not worked with ES
>>> before, meaning I followed the guides
>>> (http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/) and looking at the
>>> Maven repository (http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.elasticsearch) I
>>> can't see a java client lib either.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/client/
>> http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/elasticsearch/HEAD/org/elasticsearch/client/transport/TransportClient.html
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> ~~helix84
>>
>> Compulsory reading: DSpace Mailing List Etiquette
>> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/Mailing+List+Etiquette
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread Anja Le Blanc
Hi Hardy,

We built a new UI outside of DSpace which our Jorum users will be using 
for all their search and stats queries. (That is the introduction for 
everyone who was not at OR13 in our DSpace API session ;-))
For that UI we built an ES index where the stats is a inner-document to 
the item. See below if you are interested otherwise you can safely 
ignore the next bit. Indentation is off as well.


--
{
 "_index": "jorumindex",
 "_type": "oerdocument",
 "_id": "19045",
 "_version": 3,
 "exists": true,
 "_source": {
 "hefe": [
 "fe"
 ],
 "author": [
 "Elesa Argent",
 "Radar Brookes",
 "2012 Legacies for Learning"
 ],
 "date": null,
 "date_accessioned": "2012-07-25T13:54:16Z",
 "date_created": null,
 "date_issued": null,
 "date_last_indexed": "2013-04-25T10:13:55.869Z",
 "description": [
 "Sports tourism can be defined as a type of tourism that 
refers to trips that are undertaken specifically to attend a sporting 
event. Common examples include the Olympic Games, the FIFA and Rugby 
World Cups and Formula 1 Grand Prix races. An estimated average of 12m 
sports tourists make international trips every year"
 ],
...

"resource_type": "Web Link",
"view_count": 5,
"download_count": 0,
"date_accessioned_short": "25-Jul-2012",
"id_text": "19045",
"statistics": [

 {
 "city": "Novo Hamburgo",
 "continent": "SA",
 "countryCode": "BR",
 "epersonid": null,
 "isBot": false,
 "time": "2013-03-26T23:58:40.043Z",
 "event_type": "view",
 "oer_id": 19045,
 "longitude_latitude": [
 -51.1333,
 -29.683304
 ],
 "truncated_ip": "177.18.180.*"
 },
 {
 "city": "Ashburn",
 "continent": "NA",
 "countryCode": "US",
 "epersonid": null,
 "isBot": false,
 "time": "2013-04-16T22:31:11.889Z",
 "event_type": "view",
 "oer_id": 19045,
 "longitude_latitude": [
 -77.4875,
 39.0437
 ],
 "truncated_ip": "23.20.204.*"
 },
...
--

We got a script which creates that ES index out of Solr stats and 
discovery indexes. But since we need to keep that ES up to date we added 
to the statistics package an ElasticSearchLogger.java (intgrated into 
UsageStatsEntity.java) and added a new Consumer to 
event.dispatcher.default.consumers which gets triggered whenever 
something happens to an item.

This all worked very well until we built the ES with our real data and 
ES fell over with memory problems -- Footprint of 6GB in memory with a 
fairly moderate index. The new version of ES solved the memory problem 
but is causing library conflicts. As usual you can't have everything.

That far to the 'tell me more' part. The other question of whether I 
would  consider contributing - yes, if that stuff is interesting to 
anyone else. Building the ES index is one bit but there is nothing 
within DSpace which is using it - that part is completely external.

(And I have not forgotten your question for making the sources open to 
the Rubi-UI either. We are heading towards the release of it.)

Best regards,
Anja


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Mimas

On 13/08/2013 15:10, Pottinger, Hardy J. wrote:
> Hi, Anja, everyone else will be chiming in on your specific question, I
> have a question for you, though: can you share more details about your
> work with Elastic Search? Is this work something that you'd consider
> submitting as an enhancement for DSpace 4.0? Shorter version: I'm
> intrigued, tell me more. Thanks!
> --
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> University of Missouri Library Systems
> http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/
> https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/
> "I am always doing that which I cannot do, in order that I may learn how
> to do it." --Pablo Picasso
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/13/13 5:36 AM, "Anja Le Blanc"  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We are using DSpace 1.8. We modified the source to use ElasticSearch as
>> well as the build in Solr. After upgrading ElasticSearch to 0.90.3 we
>> are now forced (library conflict with lucene) to update the build in
>> Solr to 4.4.0.
>>
>> Is the version of Solr which comes with DSpace in any way modified to
>> make it work with DSpace?
>> Did anyone attempt an upgrade to Solr 4.4.0 before? Are there any known
>> pit-falls?
>>
>> Any advice appreciated!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Anja
>>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread Anja Le Blanc
Hi Helix,

We were using ES 20.6 before - that did not cause a problem. I got the 
same dependency as you in Maven just with a different version. They just 
have one 'catch all' jar or ES.

At the moment I am considering upgrading Solrj to 3.5 which does not 
have a dependency on Lucene. That might solve the problem without having 
to upgrade Solr itself.

Thanks a lot.
Anja


On 13/08/2013 14:07, helix84 wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Anja Le Blanc
>  wrote:
>> Your question is a very good one. I entirely agree. Unfortunately I am not
>> aware of a ElasticSearch client library.
>
> This is what we use for ES stats:
> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/dspace-3.1/dspace-api/pom.xml#L421
>
> Here's the JavaDoc and source:
> http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/
> https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/
>
>
>> Before integrating ElasticSearch in our DSpace I have not worked with ES
>> before, meaning I followed the guides
>> (http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/) and looking at the
>> Maven repository (http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.elasticsearch) I
>> can't see a java client lib either.
>
> Does this help?
>
> http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/client/
> http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/elasticsearch/HEAD/org/elasticsearch/client/transport/TransportClient.html
>
>
> Regards,
> ~~helix84
>
> Compulsory reading: DSpace Mailing List Etiquette
> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/Mailing+List+Etiquette
>
>

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
Hi, Anja, everyone else will be chiming in on your specific question, I
have a question for you, though: can you share more details about your
work with Elastic Search? Is this work something that you'd consider
submitting as an enhancement for DSpace 4.0? Shorter version: I'm
intrigued, tell me more. Thanks!
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University of Missouri Library Systems
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https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/
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to do it." --Pablo Picasso





On 8/13/13 5:36 AM, "Anja Le Blanc"  wrote:

>Hello,
>
>We are using DSpace 1.8. We modified the source to use ElasticSearch as
>well as the build in Solr. After upgrading ElasticSearch to 0.90.3 we
>are now forced (library conflict with lucene) to update the build in
>Solr to 4.4.0.
>
>Is the version of Solr which comes with DSpace in any way modified to
>make it work with DSpace?
>Did anyone attempt an upgrade to Solr 4.4.0 before? Are there any known
>pit-falls?
>
>Any advice appreciated!
>
>Best regards,
>Anja
>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread Andrea Bollini
Il 13/08/2013 14:55, Anja Le Blanc ha scritto:
> Hi Andrea, hi Helix,
>
> First of all thank you both for your replies.
>
> Your question is a very good one. I entirely agree. Unfortunately I am 
> not aware of a ElasticSearch client library.
Ok, I was not aware of that too. Looks like there is not a separated lib 
that include only the client staff...

> Before integrating ElasticSearch in our DSpace I have not worked with 
> ES before, meaning I followed the guides 
> (http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/) and looking 
> at the Maven repository 
> (http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.elasticsearch) I can't see a 
> java client lib either.
>
> Looking at Solrj it seems that version 3.3, which DSpace 1.8 is using, 
> is depended on lucene, but Solrj 4.4 is not. (That does not help in 
> its own right - but going in the right direction.)
true... lucene-core dependency vanish in 3.5
http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.solr/solr-solrj/3.5.0

I'm not sure if this can work but you can try to just upgrade the solrj 
client to 3.5.
If you are using discovery the other dependencies from lucene-core can 
just be ignored as they are required by the dspace built-in lucene 
search provider

Andrea

>
> I would very much like to get out of that upgrade, I just can't see 
> how at the moment.
>
> Best regards,
> Anja
>
>
>
> On 13/08/2013 12:07, Andrea Bollini wrote:
>> Hi Anjia,
>> as reported by helix we are in process to upgrade the solr used by
>> DSpace to Solr 4.
>> We have already get a working dspace installation with solr 4.1 many
>> changes are required primary at configuration level.
>> I have a vague memory of issues that I have had trying to use a more
>> recent solr... I will do a try in the next few days and send an update.
>> If no major issues are present we will be happy to update to the last
>> stable solr release.
>>
>> Now a question for you: why the upgrade of elastic search make trouble
>> to dspace and solr? you dspace application should be only dependent from
>> the elastic search client or solrj. Lucene should be hidden by that.
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> Il 13/08/2013 12:46, helix84 ha scritto:
>>> Hi Anja,
>>>
>>> perhaps this will help, as a start:
>>>
>>> https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/DS-1623
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> ~~helix84
>>>
>>> Compulsory reading: DSpace Mailing List Etiquette
>>> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/Mailing+List+Etiquette
>>>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread helix84
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Anja Le Blanc
 wrote:
> Your question is a very good one. I entirely agree. Unfortunately I am not
> aware of a ElasticSearch client library.

This is what we use for ES stats:
https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/dspace-3.1/dspace-api/pom.xml#L421

Here's the JavaDoc and source:
http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/
https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/


> Before integrating ElasticSearch in our DSpace I have not worked with ES
> before, meaning I followed the guides
> (http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/) and looking at the
> Maven repository (http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.elasticsearch) I
> can't see a java client lib either.

Does this help?

http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/client/
http://elasticsearch.spantree.net/elasticsearch/HEAD/org/elasticsearch/client/transport/TransportClient.html


Regards,
~~helix84

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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread Anja Le Blanc
Hi Andrea, hi Helix,

First of all thank you both for your replies.

Your question is a very good one. I entirely agree. Unfortunately I am 
not aware of a ElasticSearch client library.
Before integrating ElasticSearch in our DSpace I have not worked with ES 
before, meaning I followed the guides 
(http://www.elasticsearch.org/guide/reference/java-api/) and looking at 
the Maven repository 
(http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.elasticsearch) I can't see a java 
client lib either.

Looking at Solrj it seems that version 3.3, which DSpace 1.8 is using, 
is depended on lucene, but Solrj 4.4 is not. (That does not help in its 
own right - but going in the right direction.)

I would very much like to get out of that upgrade, I just can't see how 
at the moment.

Best regards,
Anja



On 13/08/2013 12:07, Andrea Bollini wrote:
> Hi Anjia,
> as reported by helix we are in process to upgrade the solr used by
> DSpace to Solr 4.
> We have already get a working dspace installation with solr 4.1 many
> changes are required primary at configuration level.
> I have a vague memory of issues that I have had trying to use a more
> recent solr... I will do a try in the next few days and send an update.
> If no major issues are present we will be happy to update to the last
> stable solr release.
>
> Now a question for you: why the upgrade of elastic search make trouble
> to dspace and solr? you dspace application should be only dependent from
> the elastic search client or solrj. Lucene should be hidden by that.
> Andrea
>
>
> Il 13/08/2013 12:46, helix84 ha scritto:
>> Hi Anja,
>>
>> perhaps this will help, as a start:
>>
>> https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/DS-1623
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> ~~helix84
>>
>> Compulsory reading: DSpace Mailing List Etiquette
>> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSPACE/Mailing+List+Etiquette
>>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread Andrea Bollini
Hi Anjia,
as reported by helix we are in process to upgrade the solr used by 
DSpace to Solr 4.
We have already get a working dspace installation with solr 4.1 many 
changes are required primary at configuration level.
I have a vague memory of issues that I have had trying to use a more 
recent solr... I will do a try in the next few days and send an update.
If no major issues are present we will be happy to update to the last 
stable solr release.

Now a question for you: why the upgrade of elastic search make trouble 
to dspace and solr? you dspace application should be only dependent from 
the elastic search client or solrj. Lucene should be hidden by that.
Andrea


Il 13/08/2013 12:46, helix84 ha scritto:
> Hi Anja,
>
> perhaps this will help, as a start:
>
> https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/DS-1623
>
>
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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread helix84
Also forgot to mention the upgrade to from 3.3->3.5, since you're
running DSpace 1.8, not 3.

https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/DS-1181


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Re: [Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread helix84
Hi Anja,

perhaps this will help, as a start:

https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/DS-1623


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[Dspace-tech] Upgrade to Solr

2013-08-13 Thread Anja Le Blanc
Hello,

We are using DSpace 1.8. We modified the source to use ElasticSearch as 
well as the build in Solr. After upgrading ElasticSearch to 0.90.3 we 
are now forced (library conflict with lucene) to update the build in 
Solr to 4.4.0.

Is the version of Solr which comes with DSpace in any way modified to 
make it work with DSpace?
Did anyone attempt an upgrade to Solr 4.4.0 before? Are there any known 
pit-falls?

Any advice appreciated!

Best regards,
Anja

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