[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Have been sort of following this thread but haven't kept all the messages to go back and refer to. But I do agree with whoever made the comment about checking with the node sysop that you are trying to stay connected to. I use DXTelnet and have been connected to a node for the past three days without any drops that I am aware of. DXTelnet does have a keep alive feature and a reconnection option that you can enable and it interfaces to DX4WIN very easily. My ISP is Mediacom and all my "stuff" is behind a Linksys BEFW11S4 router/firewall/switch/access point. I have experienced dropout problems in the past but switching nodes solved the problem. That tells me that all nodes aren't created equal even though they may be running the same software. Good luck.. Pete, NN9K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garry Shapiro Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout Since Tony, N2TK, is out of touch, this is to others following this thread. I upgraded the firmware for my LinkSys BEFSR41 to the latest version, 1.42.7, and there is no reference to either "connect on demand" or "keep alive" in this version. This was confirmed in several conversations with LinkSys Support yesterday. Also, my ISP apparently does not support PPPoE in any case, and enabling that option cripples my connection. LinkSys suggested that the timeout might be due to something my ISP does, but my ISP tech told me they do no such thing, so we have obviously reached the I-don't-know-I-am-grabbing-at-straws point with LinkSys. The newer firmware appears to have no effect on the timeout problem here. That leaves the earlier suggestion to place this PC outside the DMZ/firewall, which would expose it to the creatures of the jungle. There are software firewalls available, but my pal W6WA, who is the IT guru at the company for which I sometimes consult, strongly recommends the "hardware" firewalls provided by the router. I'm no computer weenie, so, at this point, I am stalemated. Garry, NI6T > -Original Message- > From: N2TK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 14:58 > To: 'Garry Shapiro'; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > Gary, I'm at an airport getting ready to board a plane. Won't be able to > check my setup for a week till I get back. > I'm using a DSL connection. I have not upgraded the software with the > router. When I looked at the router configuration from the http site, the > last two lines referred to "keep alive". Also, I do have PPPOe checked as > instructed by my ISP, Verizon > Tony. > > -Original Message- > From: Garry Shapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > Tony: > > I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I experience unwanted > and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen > interest. > > I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware > version--1.34. > A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and > triggered serious > problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was > not at all > trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal. > Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary > principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." > > I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently > disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP to make sure > whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do not need it > for basic functionality with this ISP. > > I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use > context? > > What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection? > > Garry, NI6T > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30 > > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX > > Telnet. > > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on > demand" is not > > checked. A
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Since Tony, N2TK, is out of touch, this is to others following this thread. I upgraded the firmware for my LinkSys BEFSR41 to the latest version, 1.42.7, and there is no reference to either "connect on demand" or "keep alive" in this version. This was confirmed in several conversations with LinkSys Support yesterday. Also, my ISP apparently does not support PPPoE in any case, and enabling that option cripples my connection. LinkSys suggested that the timeout might be due to something my ISP does, but my ISP tech told me they do no such thing, so we have obviously reached the I-don't-know-I-am-grabbing-at-straws point with LinkSys. The newer firmware appears to have no effect on the timeout problem here. That leaves the earlier suggestion to place this PC outside the DMZ/firewall, which would expose it to the creatures of the jungle. There are software firewalls available, but my pal W6WA, who is the IT guru at the company for which I sometimes consult, strongly recommends the "hardware" firewalls provided by the router. I'm no computer weenie, so, at this point, I am stalemated. Garry, NI6T > -Original Message- > From: N2TK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 14:58 > To: 'Garry Shapiro'; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > Gary, I'm at an airport getting ready to board a plane. Won't be able to > check my setup for a week till I get back. > I'm using a DSL connection. I have not upgraded the software with the > router. When I looked at the router configuration from the http site, the > last two lines referred to "keep alive". Also, I do have PPPOe checked as > instructed by my ISP, Verizon > Tony. > > -Original Message- > From: Garry Shapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > Tony: > > I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I experience unwanted > and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen > interest. > > I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware > version--1.34. > A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and > triggered serious > problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was > not at all > trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal. > Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary > principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." > > I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently > disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP to make sure > whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do not need it > for basic functionality with this ISP. > > I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use > context? > > What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection? > > Garry, NI6T > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30 > > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX > > Telnet. > > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on > demand" is not > > checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked. > > Tony > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of KC9JS, John > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no > > problems at all > > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, > > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using > > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So > your problem > > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be > something you > > should look it. > > 73 de John/KC9JS > > Twin Lakes, WI > > * > > - Original Message - > > From: "K
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
At 07:58 7/19/2002, N2TK wrote: >Gary, I'm at an airport getting ready to board a plane. Won't be able to >check my setup for a week till I get back. >I'm using a DSL connection. I have not upgraded the software with the >router. When I looked at the router configuration from the http site, the >last two lines referred to "keep alive". Also, I do have PPPOe checked as >instructed by my ISP, Verizon >Tony. I have a Cisco 675 DSL box. My DSL is QWORST. I know they have upgraded the software/firmware for it but after looking at the instructions, I decided to wait until I had a month to spare. My telephone line comes to the 675 and it, in turn goes to a Linksys 5-port hub. The computers connect there. I don't seem to have a problem staying connected but i have noticed a strange phenomena in my Win2K hardware setup. I define the IP numbers for the computer boxes. They are in the series 10.0.0.10, etc. But the win2k box shows, in addition to the NIC card, a WAN Miniport (IP) #2 in the hardware setup and it has a yellow exclamation mark. Everything works ok but I have been told to let the Cisco play DHCP and assign IP numbers. Also, how about using Netbui for the connection? Any comments? OR, since it works, should I let sleeping dogs lie? unkadean --
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Gary, I'm at an airport getting ready to board a plane. Won't be able to check my setup for a week till I get back. I'm using a DSL connection. I have not upgraded the software with the router. When I looked at the router configuration from the http site, the last two lines referred to "keep alive". Also, I do have PPPOe checked as instructed by my ISP, Verizon Tony. -Original Message- From: Garry Shapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout Tony: I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I experience unwanted and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen interest. I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware version--1.34. A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and triggered serious problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was not at all trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal. Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP to make sure whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do not need it for basic functionality with this ISP. I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use context? What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection? Garry, NI6T > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30 > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX > Telnet. > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on demand" is not > checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked. > Tony > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of KC9JS, John > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no > problems at all > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you > should look it. > 73 de John/KC9JS > Twin Lakes, WI > ***************** > - Original Message - > From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the > telnet > > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any > router to > > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has > been fully > > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > > > > 73; > > Kurt - W2MW > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM > > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since > going > > to a > > cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop > anywhere from > 2 > > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to > > DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as > > routers > > and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > > > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I > have tried > > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
I was going to make this suggestion next. This does work. I set my email polling time to 3 min. I can stay connected for hours/days. 73; Kurt - W2MW -Original Message- From: Ed&KathyStratton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:54 PM To: Garry Shapiro; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout The best way to keep you network connection up and if you isp provides your email, is to set the auto check for new email to the lowest value. I believe MS outlook and express can be set to one minute intervals. This at least keep the circuit up, and let's the ISPs know that your connection is very active. They probably don't monitor telent activity, but I bet there is sometype of keep alive the connection if the email is check in these minimal check periods. Anyway it worth a try. w1zz ed - Original Message - From: "Garry Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'KC9JS, John'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:39 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > Tony: > > I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I experience unwanted > and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen > interest. > > I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware version--1.34. > A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and triggered serious > problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was not at all > trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal. > Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary > principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." > > I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently > disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP to make sure > whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do not need it > for basic functionality with this ISP. > > I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use > context? > > What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection? > > Garry, NI6T > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30 > > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX > > Telnet. > > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on demand" is not > > checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked. > > Tony > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of KC9JS, John > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no > > problems at all > > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, > > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using > > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem > > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you > > should look it. > > 73 de John/KC9JS > > Twin Lakes, WI > > * > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > > > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the > > telnet > > > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any > > router to > > > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > > > > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has > > been fully > > > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > > > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > > > > >
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
I don't have a problem staying connected to my ISP---only to Telnet nodes. That is what I said in my message, below, and that is what this thread has been about! Garry, NI6T > -Original Message- > From: Ed&KathyStratton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 01:54 > To: Garry Shapiro; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'KC9JS, John'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > The best way to keep you network connection up and if you isp > provides your > email, is to set the auto check for new email to the lowest value. I > believe MS outlook and express can be set to one minute intervals. > This at least keep the circuit up, and let's the ISPs know that your > connection is very active. They probably don't monitor telent > activity, but > I bet there is sometype of keep alive the connection if the email is check > in these minimal check periods. > > Anyway it worth a try. > > w1zz > ed > - Original Message - > From: "Garry Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'KC9JS, John'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:39 PM > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > Tony: > > > > I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I > experience unwanted > > and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen > > interest. > > > > I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware > version--1.34. > > A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and triggered > serious > > problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was not at > all > > trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal. > > Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary > > principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." > > > > I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently > > disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP > to make sure > > whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do > not need it > > for basic functionality with this ISP. > > > > I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use > > context? > > > > What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection? > > > > Garry, NI6T > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK > > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30 > > > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > > > > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually > connected to DX > > > Telnet. > > > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on demand" is > not > > > checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked. > > > Tony > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Behalf Of KC9JS, John > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no > > > problems at all > > > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything > like that, > > > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using > > > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your > problem > > > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something > you > > > should look it. > > > 73 de John/KC9JS > > > Twin Lakes, WI > > > * > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM > > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > > > > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to > think > > > > that you are experiencing a
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Tony: I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I experience unwanted and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen interest. I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware version--1.34. A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and triggered serious problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was not at all trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal. Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP to make sure whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do not need it for basic functionality with this ISP. I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use context? What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection? Garry, NI6T > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30 > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX > Telnet. > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on demand" is not > checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked. > Tony > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of KC9JS, John > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no > problems at all > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you > should look it. > 73 de John/KC9JS > Twin Lakes, WI > ***** > ----- Original Message - > From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the > telnet > > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any > router to > > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has > been fully > > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > > > > 73; > > Kurt - W2MW > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM > > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since > going > > to a > > cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop > anywhere from > 2 > > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to > > DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as > > routers > > and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > > > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I > have tried > > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of > code > > that > > was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were > > inadvertent. > > Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. > > > > What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a > > Cisco > > 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week > plus > > with > > no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of > > the > > telnet session somehow. > > > > The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
The best way to keep you network connection up and if you isp provides your email, is to set the auto check for new email to the lowest value. I believe MS outlook and express can be set to one minute intervals. This at least keep the circuit up, and let's the ISPs know that your connection is very active. They probably don't monitor telent activity, but I bet there is sometype of keep alive the connection if the email is check in these minimal check periods. Anyway it worth a try. w1zz ed - Original Message - From: "Garry Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'KC9JS, John'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:39 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > Tony: > > I have the same LinkSys router and connect via ADSL. I experience unwanted > and annoying Telnet timeouts, so I have observed this thread with keen > interest. > > I use the most basic settings and am using an older firmware version--1.34. > A year or so ago, I upgraded for no particular reason, and triggered serious > problems that were only resolved by going back to 1.34, which was not at all > trivial to do. As pointed out, LinkSys tech support was pretty marginal. > Having been so burned, I have made no changes since, following the hoary > principle of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." > > I find "connect on demand" associated with PPPoE, which is currently > disabled. The HELP file says "You have to check with your ISP to make sure > whether the PPPoE should be enabled or not." Apparently, I do not need it > for basic functionality with this ISP. > > I cannot find "keep alive" anywhere on this version. What is its use > context? > > What F/W version are you using? Is yours a cable or DSL connection? > > Garry, NI6T > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of N2TK > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 21:30 > > To: 'KC9JS, John'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX > > Telnet. > > Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on demand" is not > > checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked. > > Tony > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of KC9JS, John > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no > > problems at all > > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, > > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using > > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem > > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you > > should look it. > > 73 de John/KC9JS > > Twin Lakes, WI > > * > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM > > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > > > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the > > telnet > > > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any > > router to > > > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > > > > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has > > been fully > > > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > > > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > > > > > > > 73; > > > Kurt - W2MW > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM > > > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > > &
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
I'm using a Linksys Router - BEFSS41. I stay continually connected to DX Telnet. Have you done to http://192.168.1.1? Make sure "Connect on demand" is not checked. Also make sure "Keep Alive" is checked. Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of KC9JS, John Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 23:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx4win@mailman.qth.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no problems at all with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you should look it. 73 de John/KC9JS Twin Lakes, WI * - Original Message - From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the telnet > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any router to > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has been fully > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > 73; > Kurt - W2MW > > -Original Message- > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > Hi Alan, > > I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since going > to a > cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop anywhere from 2 > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to > DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as > routers > and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of code > that > was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were > inadvertent. > Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. > > What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a > Cisco > 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week plus > with > no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of > the > telnet session somehow. > > The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never tried any > of > the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this > problem. > > > 73, John K0TG > > > Alan Clark wrote: > > > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to > a > > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times > out > > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am > not > > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > > > Alan, N5PA > > > > ___ > > Dx4win mailing list > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
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Generally not. The lease time is set by the DHCP server, which you, as a subscriber to the cable service, normally wouldn't have any control over. Unless you find that you are actually frequently changing IP addresses, this shouldn't be the cause of the problem. If your address does not change when renewed (which is typically the case in most systems that I've see), then there would be no change at all as far as connectivity is concerned. (In other words, merely asking for the lease to be renewed doesn't cause ongoing connectivity to drop.) I'd be a little surprised to find a DHCP life of 2 hours (causing machines to attempt to renew every hour) because of the relatively large amount of network traffic that would generate. I don't want to go into too much depth on this list (we're already getting pretty far off topic), but one of the things that you do when setting up DHCP is to try to balance the available pool of addresses with the number of machines needing and using those addresses. In a cable ISP environment, usually when a cable modem gets hooked up and requests an address, it says connected for a fairly lengthy period of time. There are different environments where network connections are relatively short-lived, and you have a smaller pool of addresses than potential users (computers_ , so when a user (computer) hasn't "checked in" for a while, you give the address away. However, even in that case, users who remain connected usually keep the same address. As I think I mentioned once a while back, I've had some drops that I can't explain, and I know that my IP address did not change over the drop. (I run a little application that "notices" when my IP address changes so that I can "find" my system.) At 12:28 PM 7/18/2002 -0400, l dietrich wrote: >Isn't there a way to lengthen the lease interval? > >Lou N2TU >- Original Message - >From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Pete Smith'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:17 AM >Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > If you read the RFP on DHCP, you will find that as long as the IP is >active > > that it will get renewed during its half-life of the lease. So if you >have > > an expiration of 2 hours, your IP will be "renewed" every hour. > > 73, David, K2DBK
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Isn't there a way to lengthen the lease interval?
Lou N2TU
- Original Message -
From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Pete Smith'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
> If you read the RFP on DHCP, you will find that as long as the IP is
active
> that it will get renewed during its half-life of the lease. So if you
have
> an expiration of 2 hours, your IP will be "renewed" every hour.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pete Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:48 AM
> To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
>
> At 10:19 PM 7/17/02 -0500, KC9JS, John wrote:
> >So your problem
> >must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something
you
> >should look it.
>
>
> I'm not sure this is obviously the router. Cable modem systems can be set
> up ("provisioned" is the weird word they use, I guess from
telephone-speak)
> in a number of different ways. At least in theory, the one I'm on grants
a
> set-duration "lease" of an IP address. There was briefly a time where it
> would drop every 2 hours regularly as clockwork, but that stopped fairly
> quickly and now I keep the same IP address. I *think* the system is
> automatically renewing my lease every two hours...
>
> As for the support, I couldn't agree more. Once in a while you get
someone
> who knows his or her stuff, but it's rare. I've found one such guy now
and
> learned a "back way" to get to him. It makes things a lot better.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
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If you read the RFP on DHCP, you will find that as long as the IP is active
that it will get renewed during its half-life of the lease. So if you have
an expiration of 2 hours, your IP will be "renewed" every hour.
-Original Message-
From: Pete Smith [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:48 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
At 10:19 PM 7/17/02 -0500, KC9JS, John wrote:
>So your problem
>must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you
>should look it.
I'm not sure this is obviously the router. Cable modem systems can be set
up ("provisioned" is the weird word they use, I guess from telephone-speak)
in a number of different ways. At least in theory, the one I'm on grants a
set-duration "lease" of an IP address. There was briefly a time where it
would drop every 2 hours regularly as clockwork, but that stopped fairly
quickly and now I keep the same IP address. I *think* the system is
automatically renewing my lease every two hours...
As for the support, I couldn't agree more. Once in a while you get someone
who knows his or her stuff, but it's rare. I've found one such guy now and
learned a "back way" to get to him. It makes things a lot better.
73, Pete N4ZR
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I'm using a Toshiba cable modem (PCX1100U) and an SMC wireless broadband router (7004WBR) and do not experience any timeouts. I can be connected for days, to two different nodes simultaneously (both wired and wireless). 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.com
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Hi, I went through the same problem. Took the Linksys Router out of the picture and it cleared up. Ted - W8TTS
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
At 10:19 PM 7/17/02 -0500, KC9JS, John wrote:
>So your problem
>must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you
>should look it.
I'm not sure this is obviously the router. Cable modem systems can be set
up ("provisioned" is the weird word they use, I guess from telephone-speak)
in a number of different ways. At least in theory, the one I'm on grants a
set-duration "lease" of an IP address. There was briefly a time where it
would drop every 2 hours regularly as clockwork, but that stopped fairly
quickly and now I keep the same IP address. I *think* the system is
automatically renewing my lease every two hours...
As for the support, I couldn't agree more. Once in a while you get someone
who knows his or her stuff, but it's rare. I've found one such guy now and
learned a "back way" to get to him. It makes things a lot better.
73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the World HF
Contest Station Database at
www.pvrc.org
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Hi All, I have a Motorola Cable Modem here and Linksys Router. I have occasional drops now, as well as before the router was installed. When routed through DXTelnet, I have auto-reconnect and keep alive selected. If I do drop, it reconnects on its own. Just FYI! 73, Zig KM9M "KC9JS, John" wrote: > I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no problems at all > with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, > just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using > Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem > must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you > should look it. > 73 de John/KC9JS > Twin Lakes, WI > * > - Original Message - > From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the > telnet > > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any router to > > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has been fully > > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > > > > 73; > > Kurt - W2MW > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM > > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since > going > > to a > > cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop anywhere from > 2 > > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to > > DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as > > routers > > and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > > > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried > > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of > code > > that > > was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were > > inadvertent. > > Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. > > > > What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a > > Cisco > > 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week > plus > > with > > no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of > > the > > telnet session somehow. > > > > The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never tried > any > > of > > the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this > > problem. > > > > > > 73, John K0TG > > > > > > Alan Clark wrote: > > > > > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to > > a > > > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times > > out > > > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am > > not > > > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > > > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > > > > > Alan, N5PA > > > > > > ___ > > > Dx4win mailing list > > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > > > ___ > > Dx4win mailing list > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > > > ___ > > Dx4win mailing list > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
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Maybe I am out of line here or something. However, has anyone who is experiencing dropped sessions ever talk with the SYSOP of the node they telnet into regarding this issue? I have yet to see any reference of any correspondence with the Clusters SYSOP to date. Sometimes the Cluster SYSOP have a better means to give a reason for the dropped session. I believe all telnet sessions are logged at the Cluster. I am not trying to disprove some of the thoughts being talked about. I am of the opinion that many nodes we telnet into depend on a cable modem for broadband connection as well. However while I am at work, I normally connect to K4JA via a telnet session. No, I am not using a cable modem but do have a real fiber based DS-1 line with router and all the IT supporting hardware one would expect a business and its IT department to have. OK, I admit to the fact somewhere in the path QWEST is involved with the DS-1. But I will leave that part out of the equation for now. While I don't really need to or use DX4WIN at work, I do use WINPACK 6.80 as my telnet terminal. I admit to having dropped sessions experienced as well. I don't have time to look at this while at work, I just know it does happen to me. I also know at times my connection to the Cluster host even gets refused for short periods of time. I can't believe I have bad hardware in ever instance, maybe outdated firmware. I have talked with the SYSOP for K4JA. A little insight. I found out there is a AR Cluster SUPER SYSOP who single handed manages just under two dozen AR Cluster nodes across the country. Boy talk about network management at its finest. Surprise, I have discovered via multiple emails exchanged even cluster nodes running software such as AR Cluster are not totally bullet proof. Even with some of the more recent software updates made to it. Those that are running the CLX package (that would be Linux based) also have there weakness. So I guess we can take MicroSlush out of the picture for now at least. So maybe we need to get some input from those who know, run and manage the clusters for us. I don't see why we need to beat ourselves up all the time. Oh, I do see some relative merit of advantage for a CISCO based router @ ~ $1,500.00 or so verses say a Netopia R7100 router or LinkSys gateway router posted on eBay for ~ $ 70.00. I don't care what version of firmware you have installed. In my own world, I have visions of running a AR Cluster node offering telnet, replacing the DOS based version currently on line at home. Some of the networking pieces are starting to fall into place for me. Thanks in advance. Regards, K3SKE Dan Szymanski SYSOP K3SKE for the PVDXSN Frederick, MD PVRC/NCDXA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "John Desmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 02:35 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > Hi Alan, > > I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since going to a > cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop anywhere from 2 > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to > DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as routers > and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of code that > was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were inadvertent. > Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. > > What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a Cisco > 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week plus with > no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of the > telnet session somehow. > > The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never tried any of > the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this problem. > > > 73, John K0TG > > > Alan Clark wrote: > > > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a > > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out > > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not > > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > > > Alan, N5PA > > > > ___ > > Dx4win mailing list > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Try adding the PC with the Telnet session to the DMZ of the Linksys. This worked for me with a DSL connection that would drop after 15 minutes-4 hours. Now it stays up 1-2 days. 73, Les At 09:35 PM 7/17/02 -0500, John Desmond wrote: >Hi Alan, > >I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since >going to a >cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop anywhere from 2 >hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to >DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as >routers >and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > >I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried >calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of >code that >was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were inadvertent. >Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. > >What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a Cisco >806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week >plus with >no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of the >telnet session somehow. > >The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never tried any of >the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this problem. > > >73, John K0TG > > >Alan Clark wrote: > > > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a > > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it > times out > > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not > > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > > > Alan, N5PA > > > > ___ > > Dx4win mailing list > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > >___ >Dx4win mailing list >Dx4win@mailman.qth.net >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
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Just an FYI, I'm running a Compaq CPW Wireless Router and it has this problem. I'll troll the setup pages tonight to see if I can find a keep alive value. I would also say the main difference between linksys and cisco is one is a home networking product and the other is probably commercial. You've got to skimp where you can to make up the margin. :) -bmb > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kurt W. Zimmerman > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:45 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of > the telnet > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any router to > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has > been fully > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > 73; > Kurt - W2MW > > -Original Message- > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > Hi Alan, > > I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever > since going > to a > cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop > anywhere from 2 > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to > DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as > routers > and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new > version of code > that > was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were > inadvertent. > Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. > > What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a > Cisco > 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a > week plus > with > no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of > the > telnet session somehow. > > The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never > tried any > of > the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this > problem. > > > 73, John K0TG > > > Alan Clark wrote: > > > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX > Spots to > a > > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that > it times > out > > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am > not > > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > > > Alan, N5PA > > > > ___ > > Dx4win mailing list > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the telnet session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any router to allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has been fully explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. 73; Kurt - W2MW -Original Message- From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout Hi Alan, I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since going to a cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop anywhere from 2 hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as routers and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of code that was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were inadvertent. Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a Cisco 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week plus with no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of the telnet session somehow. The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never tried any of the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this problem. 73, John K0TG Alan Clark wrote: > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > Alan, N5PA > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
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I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no problems at all with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you should look it. 73 de John/KC9JS Twin Lakes, WI * - Original Message - From: "Kurt W. Zimmerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > Not really knowing much about the Linksys router, I would seem to think > that you are experiencing a time out instead of loosing track of the telnet > session. You should have some user-definable parameters in any router to > allow you to change and/or configure timeouts. > > I would not give up all hope on the Linksys router until it has been fully > explored. Mind you, most of the folks on tech-support help desks don't > always have the answers. I've found that out from personal experience. > > > 73; > Kurt - W2MW > > -Original Message- > From: John Desmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:35 PM > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > > Hi Alan, > > I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since going > to a > cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop anywhere from 2 > hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to > DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as > routers > and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. > > I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried > calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of code > that > was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were > inadvertent. > Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. > > What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a > Cisco > 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week plus > with > no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of > the > telnet session somehow. > > The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never tried any > of > the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this > problem. > > > 73, John K0TG > > > Alan Clark wrote: > > > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to > a > > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times > out > > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am > not > > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > > > Alan, N5PA > > > > ___ > > Dx4win mailing list > > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win >
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Hi Alan, I just read your note today. I have had this same problem ever since going to a cable modem over a year ago. My telnet sessions would drop anywhere from 2 hours to 10 hours after they were set-up. The sessions were not just to DXClusters that had the problem. I use telnet to other systems such as routers and Linux machines. They all had the same problem. I have a Linksys router with the 4 port switch. In the past I have tried calling Linksys tech support and also have loaded every new version of code that was released, hoping that they might just fix it, even if it were inadvertent. Their support is just plain awful if not just plain pathetic. What proved to me that it was the Linksys was when I replaced it with a Cisco 806. The dropped sessions stopped. I have had sessions up for a week plus with no drops. It is pretty clear to me that the Linksys is loosing track of the telnet session somehow. The answer may not be that you need a Cisco router. I have never tried any of the other brands out there like D-Link, etc. They may not have this problem. 73, John K0TG Alan Clark wrote: > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > Alan, N5PA > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
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At 20:19 7/17/2002, KC9JS, John wrote: >I'm using a Telnet connection via a Cable Modem and have no problems at all >with dropouts or timeouts. I'm not using a router or anything like that, >just a Motorola Cable Modem connected to a Gateway 700S computer using >Windows XP and DX4win 5.03. So far it's all working fine. So your problem >must be related to the Linksys router. Just saying it may be something you >should look it. >73 de John/KC9JS >Twin Lakes, WI FYI, I am using a Cisco 675 DSL to a Linksys 4-port hub to my 2 home computers and rarely lose a telnet link to K7AR. unkadean --
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> Yes, some of the telnet software that is used will also time out. I use DX Telnet with WriteLog and DX4WIN. I don't seem to need it for the K1TTT cluster, but DX Telnet has a "Keep Alive" function that might help some. See http://www.qsl.net/wa9als/dxtelnet.htm for some details about using DX Telnet with DX4WIN and WriteLog. 73
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
From time to time I experience the same thing here... The suspicion I have is that it may be RF related. From time to I get some RF related "activity" (monitor flicker) with the beam pointed back at the shack, it also seems to be worse on some frequencies than others. As a result I'm never aware exactly when the disconnect occurs so it is hard to tie the transmission "event" back to the loss of the Internet connection. Dave NR1DX [EMAIL PROTECTED] "A man who picks a cat up by the tail learns a lesson he can learn no other way" Mark Twain
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
I have the same problem, and I'm sure it's not RF-related, since sometimes when I've gotten disconnected I've been out of the shack (and not transmitting!) for some time. There are a couple of things to consider here: First, the Internet is not guaranteed to be 100% reliable to all locations (or in fact, generally speaking, to any locations) for the kinds of things we're talking about. There is a lot of infrastructure between your computer and the telnet cluster itself, and depending on a lot of things (more appropriate to an "Internet Infrastructure" reflector than here, so I'll skip that stuff), if any one of those little pieces shuts down you may loose your connection. The second thing is that it's possible that some clusters require some activity on the end-users part to keep the connection up. This is not just a response to a low-level connectivity check, but actual user input. The reason is that if the cluster has limited resources (memory, CPU, etc.) they might not want to keep lots of inactive users connected. I don't run a telnet cluster, but I'd be curious to hear from anyone who does as to whether they've got an inactivity timer available on the telnet connection to timeout inactive users. >FWIW I have the same timeout problem as the others and it is definitly >_not_ rf >related because it only happens at a computer in my house which is 200 >yards from >the shack. The shack is not operational at that time, therefore no rf. > >The shack uses a two meter line which is rock solid. > >This would dismiss rf as the culprit for most timeout problems. 73, David - K2DBK
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Hi All, First Iam the SYSOP of a cluster here is San Antonio, TX. All are welcom to use this cluster the tel-net tag is listed below. Yes, some clusters us a timer. Yes, some of the telnet software that is used will also time out. Here I use Hi speed DSL, and run 4 servers, the only time I lose a connection is in a bad storm, when the isp has a major maintance window. I also connect my node to a node in Austin TX, we will have up times of over 45 days. Also the SYSOP's may need to take a node down for maintance of files. Try my node, there are no timers, if you are still going down, you may want to check with your ISP to find out if he is running any timmers, that make you reconnect. 73's All Don Hinte, KA5EYH Phone 210.646.9504 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Page http://ka5eyh.drhnet.com DXC Node dxc-ka5eyh.drhnet.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K2DBK - David Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 10:03 AM To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout I have the same problem, and I'm sure it's not RF-related, since sometimes when I've gotten disconnected I've been out of the shack (and not transmitting!) for some time. There are a couple of things to consider here: First, the Internet is not guaranteed to be 100% reliable to all locations (or in fact, generally speaking, to any locations) for the kinds of things we're talking about. There is a lot of infrastructure between your computer and the telnet cluster itself, and depending on a lot of things (more appropriate to an "Internet Infrastructure" reflector than here, so I'll skip that stuff), if any one of those little pieces shuts down you may loose your connection. The second thing is that it's possible that some clusters require some activity on the end-users part to keep the connection up. This is not just a response to a low-level connectivity check, but actual user input. The reason is that if the cluster has limited resources (memory, CPU, etc.) they might not want to keep lots of inactive users connected. I don't run a telnet cluster, but I'd be curious to hear from anyone who does as to whether they've got an inactivity timer available on the telnet connection to timeout inactive users. >FWIW I have the same timeout problem as the others and it is definitly >_not_ rf >related because it only happens at a computer in my house which is 200 >yards from >the shack. The shack is not operational at that time, therefore no rf. > >The shack uses a two meter line which is rock solid. > >This would dismiss rf as the culprit for most timeout problems. 73, David - K2DBK ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
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On Sat, 06 Jul 2002 12:22:03 +, Dave wrote: > > > From time to time I experience the same thing here... The suspicion I have >is that it may be RF related. From time to I get some RF related >"activity" (monitor flicker) with the beam pointed back at the shack, it >also seems to be worse on some frequencies than others. As a result I'm >never aware exactly when the disconnect occurs so it is hard to tie the >transmission "event" back to the loss of the Internet connection. > > >Dave >NR1DX >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > FWIW I have the same timeout problem as the others and it is definitly _not_ rf related because it only happens at a computer in my house which is 200 yards from the shack. The shack is not operational at that time, therefore no rf. The shack uses a two meter line which is rock solid. This would dismiss rf as the culprit for most timeout problems. Larry Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX
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Now myself being one that has been bound up to a dial up ISP for years and a lot longer it looks like with no hope of anything like broadband service either from Verizon or Adelphia (the now local Cable Idiots), if losing DX packet spots was the only bad feature I could complain about, I wouldn't say a darn word! Regards, Dan K3SKE - Original Message - From: "Bob, N5RP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 16:10 Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > At 11:03 7/5/2002 -0500, Alan Clark wrote: > >I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a > >Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out > >and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not > >getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > >cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > => > Use some other program that has an automatic scripting and log back in > feature to get the packet spots. > > The data from that program can then be fed into a COM port on your computer > that DX4WIN recognizes as it's data feed source. > Bob Perring > ... > Amateur Radio Station N5RP > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
At 11:03 AM 7/5/2002 -0500, Alan Clark wrote: >I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a >Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out >and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not >getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the >cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? I can't say what your problem is, but I have two computers on my network, one wired, one wireless, through (behind) the router to the cable modem and my DX4WIN connections (to KE9KD-2 and N2TX) stay connected for days on end. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.com
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Alan, Are you using a router? I use a LinkSys multi-port router to connect multiple PCs in my house to the cable modem. I found that the DX spots in DX4WIN time-out unless I use the LinkSys "DMZ Host" feature to place the Ham PC outside the perimeter of the router's firewall protection. -larry K8UT - Original Message - From: "Alan Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout > I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a > Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out > and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not > getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the > cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > > Alan, N5PA > > ___ > Dx4win mailing list > Dx4win@mailman.qth.net > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
Alan, I noticed a similar thing when I switched to a cable modem but figured it was an issue with my provider. Then I caught a deal on a Linksys router so I could share my fast connection with other PCs in my home and the problem went away. I have not done any special setup on the router - still need to read thru the documentation. Running ZoneAlarm to keep things secure though. Anyhow, nothing has changed beyond the addition of the router and I certainly don't have an explanation for the change in behavior. Guess it is just food for thought. Mike / W8DN - Original Message - From: "Alan Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:03 PM Subject: [Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? Alan, N5PA ___ Dx4win mailing list Dx4win@mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
I also have had the same problem for quite a while and it's quite annoying. My setup has a cablemodem and router. I believe that the telnet source asks for periodic acks and times out when the ack doesn't come. I would like to see dx4win changed to re-connect automatically when such a time-out occurs. Larry Alkoff N2LA On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:03:57 -0500, Alan Clark wrote: >I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a >Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out >and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not >getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the >cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? > >Alan, N5PA > Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
At 11:03 7/5/2002 -0500, Alan Clark wrote: >I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a >Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out >and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not >getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the >cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? => Use some other program that has an automatic scripting and log back in feature to get the packet spots. The data from that program can then be fed into a COM port on your computer that DX4WIN recognizes as it's data feed source. Bob Perring ... Amateur Radio Station N5RP mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] N5RP Station Page: http://web2.airmail.net/perring/station.html
[Dx4win] Telnet via Cable Modem Timeout
I have recently converted from a dial-up to an ISP to get my DX Spots to a Cable Modem. Since converting to the cable modem I notice that it times out and goes off line without any notification. All I notice is that I am not getting spots any more. Works fine when I dial up the ISP, but with the cable modem it times out. Any insight to a solution? Alan, N5PA
